The Cardinals start revising their roster
by DanUpBaby on Jun 23, 2011 8:01 AM EDT
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PrintThe Cardinals' roster looks now like it's going to look for the rest of the season, in general; from the moment they decided on offense over defense, and lost Adam Wainwright for the year, this team had a shape, and to change it now would involve the kind of desparate-at-worst midseason trading they have no particular reason to make.
But with the losses mounting I'm glad they've begun working at the margins. Miguel Batista was pitching badly, but the big problem about his bad pitching was that if he'd finally put things together the upside wouldn't even have been Ryan Franklin--it would just be Miguel Batista, somewhere in the vicinity of replacement level. I'd still like to see Jess Todd in the bullpen to attempt to stabilize it somewhere in the vicinity of adequacy, but Lance Lynn's new high-fastball routine seems pretty well-suited to a short stint in the bullpen.
Meanwhile, a spot on the 40-man roster opens up--at least temporarily. Bryan Augenstein has been rehabbing for a few days now, making relief-sized appearances, and at some point he'll have to be brought onto the roster lest the Cardinals risk losing him to some other bargain-hunting team. (After a close-up look at his fastball out of the bullpen--and with Lynn the official long reliever in the bullpen--I'm not sure I or the Cardinals would mind the risk, depending on what they planned to do with that last spot in his stead.)
Batista in the bullpen wouldn't have sunk the Cardinals by himself, but the team had some problems, of roster flexibility and of bullpen composition and of the utterly depressing idea of that bullpen even if all members performed at their best, and they solved all of them without expending any resources. I don't think John Mozeliak is in a position to fix this team midseason, if it is in fact broken, but he could do some good things in the revision process.
Next on the list--shoring up the infield, which is not at all difficult given the erosion the Cardinals have experienced there all year. Nick Punto is a few days away from replacing Pete Kozma, which should go part of the way toward dealing with Tyler Greene's total offensive collapse; David Freese will go the rest of the way by setting Daniel Descalso free.
With Lance Berkman otherwise engaged for the next four to six weeks the Cardinals will at least be able to gain some ground on defense, where the difference between Berkman and Jay is probably greater than the difference between Berkman and Pujols.
It's the rotation that defies revision. Tony La Russa has flatly denied the flatly La Russian move, which would be to throw Kyle McClelaln into the closer's role and bring Lance Lynn out as the fifth starter, and the next potential move in the farm system, bringing Shelby Miller up at 20, isn't revision at all--it's introducing a new hero at a moment's notice, with the distinct possibility that he will have to return anticlimactically to his home planet sometime in August.
This rotation causes the anxiety that it does because we're in the awkward position of waiting for Chris Carpenter's luck to even out while we also wait for Kyle Lohse and Kyle McClellan's luck to even out. It could get better if Carpenter's results begin to match his peripherals, or if Jake Westbrook's command returns, but if we're going to hope for that we might as well hope for Lohse to continue to pitch like Carpenter.
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It got to the point where when I saw Miguel Batista walk to the mound, I’d ask my wife what she wanted to watch on TV.
Same here
“damn you Batista” became a common phrase in my house
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 23, 2011 8:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
mine was
“aaaaand we’re done”
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
"GOB, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US!!!!"
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
it's like Bottenfield again.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 23, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
What I say everytime...
after I eat too much spicy food.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember that time we traded him for Jim Edmonds?
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by jd is legend on Jun 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
now that would be a good one to pull again.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 23, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
K-Mac for Reyes
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by jd is legend on Jun 23, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
which reyes?
be moar specific!!
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
THE BAD ONE.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
I'd always say OOOOHHHH NNNNOOOOOO
Mrs. Nation finally just started yelling “Batista?” from another room or something.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 23, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Dumping Batista.....
what took so long? I was hoping for that after 3 appearances.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
Encouraging tidbits regarding rotation
1. Traditionally, Westbrook is better in the 2nd half.
2. Carp cannot continue to be this unlucky.
3. There is something different about Loshe this season. He’s not the ace he looked like to begin the season, but he is much better than past two seasons. He threw 1.5 bad pitches last night, and they were hammered.
4. Hotme Garcia
Only real concern for me is K-Mac. I think he hits a wall sooner, rather than later. I just hope Mo/Tony make good roster decisions when it happens.
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 23, 2011 8:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Everyone is freaking out about McClellan because of his low k/9
Which makes sense but he isn’t walking anyone either (although he had 4 this last game), which is a big plus. He appears to be a serviceable mid to back if the rotation starter
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 23, 2011 10:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope I'm not jinxing this whole thing, but
didn’t we get a really good year from Piniero when he did the exact same thing?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Jinkies!
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by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
perhaps the ghost of christie matthewson
is semi-inhabiting kmac?
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Pineiro also had a ground ball percentage over 60 for the year
I know McClellan is over 50, but I can’t remember what is average and I don’t know if he should be expected to sustain that or not.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Pineiro almost never walked anyone, while keeping a very low HR rate
Kmac’s BB rate is good, not exceptional, and his HR rate is pretty bad (though xFIP does help a bit)
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Yeah, there's that stuff too
Piñeiro’s HR rates were excellent as well, which was kind of the unheralded part of his success. Chris Carpenter was ridiculously good at not giving up homers that year, even better than Piñeiro. Carpenter was first in the majors in HR/9 and third in HR/FB. I think Piñeiro was fifth and eighth, respectively.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
OK, so I went ahead and poked around on Fangraphs
McClellan is at 53.6%, which is ninth best in the NL. Also, Westbrook is first in the NL and major leagues at 62.9%. Garcia is sixth in the NL at 55.2%. Piñeiro was easily tops in the majors in 2009.
So I guess McClellan’s GB rate could be considered “elite” or “excellent” or some word like that. Which is quite a bit better than I realized he was doing.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
If he's still allowing a lot of dingers, I can't see how the GB rate is helping him all that much.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Yeah, aren't groundballs supposed to correlate with fewer homers?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
I was wondering if that were true for GB pitchers, no actual research on my part but
when i was playing around with Fangraphs a couple of days ago I noticed the guys who had the higher HR/FB, there were a lot more guys with high GB%. I was wondering if I just suck at observations or there’s actually something to that.
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=nl&qual=520&type=8&season=2011&month=0&season1=2004&ind=0
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
my link sucks
I thought it would link to the HR/GB being sorted from Highest to lowest when done.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
actually, I'm pretty sure it's just my bad observation skills.
I was just wondering if there’s any reason why guys with 45-60% make up a majority of the top 20-30 or so I saw.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
how many people got on base in his last start?
How many of those were erased by a double play?
Grit != flat out sucking.
i'm sad that we've forgotten the ñ
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
True
But Pineiro was also walking batters at a Cliff Lee-esque clip that season, while inducing an insane number of GBs. Sinkerballers are weird.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 23, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I was speaking
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 23, 2011 11:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
More to a "fatigue" wall
He’s looking at huge innings increase
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 23, 2011 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He is not a middle of the rotation starter, he is a fifth starter who could easily be replaced.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Indeed.
1. I believe you.
2. I just traded for him in my fantasy team!
3. Lohse looks very good. Solid number 2 starter good.
4. is hot
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
Lohse
I got tired and turned the game off last night after the 7th. Did Kyle pitch the 8th? Other than the one inning (and couple of pitches) I thought he was very good last night. The last couple of innings I watched (6th, 7th) were very efficient, no real hard contact, etc. It’s just too bad that the long flies hit off Lohse were down the line whereas the couple of long flies we hit against Lee were both towards center.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He went 8 and only gave up the 3.
Did a good job for the most part. Too bad he was going to have to be perfect.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 23, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Lohse pitched the eighth as well and did fine against the bottom of their order. Got a Lee double-play to end it.
One of the HR’s was definitely a bad pitch (can’t remember which one), the other was a decent pitch that got hit hard.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
The pitch to Rollins
was supposed to be a down and in breaking ball but was up and just a little bit over the plate. Howard’s, I don’t really recall that much except that, when he hit it, I thought it might not make it out since it was opposite field.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 23, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
IIRC, Howard's was a fastball over the middle of the plate.
Can anyone confirm or deny?
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If Jess Todd has his way
Shelby Miller won’t have a home world to return to.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 23, 2011 8:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 6 recs
So it seems that the Cardinals are well on their way to shattering the GIDP record
can someone please explain to me why the hell we’re not using the suicide squeeze more? A classic example was last night, after Lohse was on 3rd last night (with Yadi at 1st, after a single). Why oh why didn’t they give Jay the green light to bunt for an almost certain run? Classic “bird in the hand” mentality.
It doesn’t seem that complicated to me – the more times you have a RISP, the more opportunities you have to drive in runs. Worse case scenario, I would MUCH rather have a runner stranded in scoring position that to keep witnessing these agonizing double plays! Oh, how I long for the days of Whiteyball!
Whiteyball!
At the risk of being called old and nostalgic again I’m going to agree with you. TLR is just a different animal and he doesn’t train the team to play small ball that well, it seems to me.
Lohse might be able to pull off a squeeze if he’s playing for Whitey because he’d probably have been drilled for it and Whitey would have the balls to try it. But not on a TLR team. Tony reminds me somewhat of Earl Weaver…get ’em on, drive ’em in.
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by Dave Pendleton on Jun 23, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Which also happens to be the most efficient way to score runs
Unless you have a ton of guys that steal bases at a 75% or better clip, attempting to steal bases at a high rate has a negative run expectation.
Back in ‘05 and ’06 we led the major leagues in scoring runs via the squeeze play. I hate to agree with Tim McCarver, but bunting is not something that’s drilled to death in the minor leagues anymore, even for pitchers. I also think that there’s been a lot of changes in how the defense prepares for a squeeze play, that make it more and more difficult to pull off.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
It isn't very efficient to squeeze, in a vacuum,
but I’m kinda like the other guys above. This is Cliff Lee here. Any run scored is a good run scored.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Squeeze with your best SP this year on third?
I don’t see that as an ideal move. Too many risks(health), aside from the play itself being risky in run production. I love the squeeze, but it has its place.
by CardFaninTTown on Jun 23, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's just it!
We just don’t seem to be very good at some of the fundamentals. It makes the offense sort of one-dimensional and predictable. Clearly, other teams are taking advantage of this.
by peppermartin on Jun 23, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Fundamentals?
Or inefficient tactics?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 23, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Do I look like your biographer?
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by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
though I agree about squeeze plays in general
I think you are talking about the 3rd inning when Lohse singled. Kozma was unable to bunt him over, then Theriot singled, Lohse stopped at 3rd.
The potential bunter was Jay, and as a lefty, not a good candidate for the suicide squeeze.
by baked mcbride on Jun 23, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
This. The solution was for Kozma to get his job done.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
precisely
larussa already gets freaked out when lohse tries to throw a ball home from left field, do you really want a starter diving to home head first?
that, and we can’t bunt
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2011: Boog would've count 57
i dunno why but this made me laugh
larussa already gets freaked out when lohse tries to throw a ball home from left field
Grit != flat out sucking.
The squeeze is far from a guaranteed run
First of all, you can’t call the play all the time, or the opposition will start to expect it. Its value is in its surprise factor. Secondly, Jay is fast enough that he will beat out most double play balls. He got unlucky last night. Third of all, it’s the starting pitcher on 3rd base, and a squeeze has the potential for a dangerous play at the plate.
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by jd is legend on Jun 23, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon Jay GIDP
Jay has a ground ball rate of over 60% and last night was his 8th GIDP. While I don’t think that the suicide was the right play, I also don’t think that a GIDP with Cliff Lee pitching was unexpected.
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Apparently you haven't been watching the games this season
This team couldn’t bunt a baseball properly with a log.
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by Ray DeRousse on Jun 23, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
2 cents worth.....in a bad economy.......
doesn’t amount to much, but here’s mine for the kitty.
I don’t think I’d move K-Mac to the pen. I’d stick with him for awhile, as tempting as it is to bring in Lynn.
Now that Batista’s gone, the next thing is to stick a fork in Franklin. He’s served his purpose here but he’s done and is merely dead weight.
As far as Carpenter and his luck…well, there’s another way to look at it. The team needs more luck when he’s pitching. Carp hasn’t been the Carp we use to know but he’s pitched well enough to win.
I can’t help but like Descalso. He’s not David Freese but he’s done a great job at 3rd and hits when it counts. This year’s infield folly isn’t near as bad as last year, and the team is hitting more than last year. Even with ss and 2b being what it is, the pen is the weakest link in the chain…but…Rasmus really needs to get his act together or he’s going to become trade bait.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
I don't know if anything has changed
But yesterday afternoon Tony said the plan was to use Lynn in the bullpen.
Still not a werewolf.
I'm for it.
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by Dave Pendleton on Jun 23, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Has Lynn ever worked out of the bullpen previously?
If that experiment fails, at least we know McClellan successfully work in relief.
Still not a werewolf.
Er.
Lynn should be great in the pen, but he is also probably better than Mac in the rotation.
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I asked you this in yesterday's thread
What leads you to believe this?
McClellan has better secondary pitches and better control with a similar fastball. I don’t see why Lynn would get the benefit of the doubt over someone who’s been pretty successful in the rotation so far this season.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Because Lynn is a better pitcher.
“Experience” like Kmac’s doesn’t count for shit IMO. He’s a below average starter who has lucked into a decent line. His BABIP is .260.
When Joel Pineiro had his very good season with the Cards, his ERA was 3.49. Mac’s ERA is 3.73, but he is walking more than twice as many people and giving up more than twice as many HRs. He is a ticking time bomb sitting in one of the spots where it would be easiest for us to upgrade.
Lynn strikes out more batters but gives up about the same number of walks and has the upside of actual stuff backing up his results. Mcclellan is the missing link between Brad Thompson and Jeff Suppan.
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Kmac has the high gb rate
xFIP’s like 4.10, which is pretty solid. I think he’s probably a bit better than Lynn.
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by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah
KMC’s K/BB rate in MLB as a starter, while low, is higher than Lynn’s AAA K/BB. And KMC was much better than Lynn in the minors as well, albeit one level lower at age 23.
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I don't know what Joel Piniero has to do with anything
I’m not even sure why he’s being brought up here.
It seems to me that they are similar pitchers. If we move K-Mac back to the bullpen to make way for Shelby Miller next year, that’s different. To do it for a guy who’s only marginally better, or might even be marginally worse, makes little sense.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Lynn has 2-3 mph on his fastball compared to McClellan
and maybe more than that depending on the veracity of reports from last year. Per pitch f/x, they get similar movement on their fastball as well. (McClellan, Lynn) I’m not a Lynn advocate but he clearly has a better fastball than McClellan the starter.
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I like the idea of keeping it how it is. Mac has been solid and we know what we have.
We could even switch them later in the year as Mac’s innings get up there, but for now I’ll stick with what’s working.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
This is the kind of logic that led to Batista being on the team for three months.
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How so?
In that you think KMac’s peripherals don’t support his success?
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
Yeah,
Mcclellan just scares the crap out of me. He’s obviously a lot better than Batista, but he still walks too many and K’s too few to sustain his current performance. The thing is, the team is in a really rough spot right now, and I think instead of them trying to maintain what has been going okay, they should be looking to improve the spots where it is possible.
After third base, where we should be getting Freese back soon, Mcclellan and Theriot are the next two spots where and upgrade would be easiest. The problem with SS is that our upgrade fell flat on his face in the majors and the next closest guy is Ryan Jackson. Fifth starter may not seem like it’s the place where a team can gain a lot, but I think it’s quite likely that Lynn is at least a win better than Mac for the balance of the year.
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Theriot's walk rate is 6.1%?
That’s terrible. Of course, with absolutely no power, why wouldn’t a pitcher challenge him?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah, I think he's actually pretty good about taking the walks when they're there to be had.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
My point was that his walk rate is not good.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I guess
But league average OBP from the leadoff spot is .330, and there are only 4 teams in the NL higher than Theriot’s .350
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Looking at his OBP,
I thought his walk rate would be better because he has a good OBP. He has a .329 BABIP, which isn’t horribly inflated for his slappy hitting style, but I worry that it will come down a bit. My worry is that Theriot the worthwhile leadoff hitter is very similar to Schumaker the worthwhile leadoff hitter. Each has to hit for a .300ish average to be a good leadoff hitter (and also to even deserve to play). We’ve seen Theriot fall to unplayable levels in recent seasons, just as Skip has, and I’m bracing myself for a return of that unlucky, low-OBP, no-glove player.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
What do you mean unplayable?
The lowest OBP he’s had in the last 4 seasons is the .321 last year
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If Ryan Theriot has a .321 OBP, he should not play.
With his bad defense and poor baserunning, he is a replacement player at best with a mere .321 OBP.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
So you mean one season out of the last four
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Yes.
What I’m saying is, if he falls to a .321 OBP—which happened last season—he should not play.
But, with his defense having declined considerably, it doesn’t even need to fall that far. Then again, maybe his defensive skill will show itself in the season’s second half and his walk rate will climb upwards, too.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think his defense will be better the second half and we'll see the
“gets the ones he should but not any others” guy we thought we were getting. I’m not sure about the walk rate. It depends on the pitchers more than anything. He has a terrific eye, but the walks just aren’t there to be had for him unless the pitchers are just plain missing.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
he's just supergrit, but not by much
miles is almost as gritty
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Well then we'd be in agreement
I don’t anticipate his walk rate to climb, really. There’s no reason for pitchers NOT to throw strikes to him. As I showed below, his plate discipline numbers are all well above average, he’s just seeing a lot of pitches in the strike zone
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I agree.
It’s the same thing with Schumaker. If a batter is punchless, make him throw a punch. There’s no threat of a knockout.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
YOU THINK SKIP ISN'T GOING TO HIT HOME RUNS?
neither do I…..
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 23, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
like, plural?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
any, ever again
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 23, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
what makes you think that his OBP will decline to .321?
just curious. is it simply the low walk rate? his average is also higher than last year, and his BABIP is only slightly higher than his career average.
i guess what i’m saying is, i hate theriot’s defense, but as a leadoff hitter, i don’t really mind him.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Walk rates are more consistant because they don't rely on luck
relying on BABIP means that Theriot can start to suck even if he becomes a little unlucky.
that’s pretty much what I’m getting from this argument, even if it’s wrong.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
I don't know about you
but I consider any batter who gets to face Trevor Miller or Miguel Batista lucky
That's unplayable for someone who can't field
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 23, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
And my point is that it's because, as you said, he's been challenged.
And he’s done a good job with that. All in all, he has had a terrific approach at the plate and a terrific eye. Look at his pitch recognition numbers.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
52.6% of pitches to Ryan Theriot are in the strike zone
Compared to about the 46% league average
His plate discipline stats are all well above average
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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yep, them's the numbers.
I have absolutely zero problems with him offensively this year other than him not being Albert Pujols.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
he also swings at less pitches outside of the zone than the average batter
22.5% compared to 29.5%
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
...what?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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he forgot to add a question mark, he meant
did you adjust for league average?
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
If we're making fun of VEP shouldn't we say something like
“those numbers, with these sample sizes, should certainly be regressed.”
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Upgrading at SS is expensive relative to other positions
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I wonder how much would J.J. Hardy cost in a trade, he's been raking this year.
definitely less than Reyes.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
I think that I read somewhere that Buck Showalter actually values Hardy pretty highly
And that he wants to lock him up for a few years or something
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
My dreams are dashed.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
yeah
I’ve been a huge Hardy fan for ages. Really wanted him next year. His glove is excellent, which I think a lot of people forget.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 25, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I am all for keep Descalso...
…he’s made me a believer in the field and shown some GRIT at the plate. When Freese comes back I wouldn’t mind seeing a two-headed frankencreature at second, with DD vs lefties and Skip VS righties, with Punto backing up them, SS, and third. not sure what else we can do with Greeny…
Griebenschmaltz!
I think it'll be awhile before we see Greene in St. Louis again, barring injury.
Still not a werewolf.
I'm the opposite
I believed in him in the field and he is turning that opinion around. He’s booted 4 or 5 balls this week alone that he was in position to make a play on.
.... wat
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
I'd rather keep Dirty Dan too
Punto can play shortstop adequetly, which eliminates the need for Greene to be on the 25 man. Then you have an infield rotation of Skip, Punto, Theriot, Freese, DD. Greene belongs in AAA.
IMO, when Craig comes back, I’d DFA Skip too. Let Craig be your bat-first second baseman and sub DD or Punto at second late for defensive purposes.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Yeah, my bad.
OK replace those comments with Kozma then.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Punto started his rehab assignment Monday
so hopefully we won’t have too much time to get tired of Kozma again.
Still not a werewolf.
He's been the DH
and has 6 hits in 3 rehab games at AA so it appears that he is ready to come back but I’m not sure if he isn’t comfortable throwing yet, or what. If he was close to 100% I would’ve expected to see him play somewhere in the infield.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. If he's the DH, then he's likely not yet ready for regular fielding
Thanks for the update.
Still not a werewolf.
From one of Leach's articles on 6/21...
Punto will likely serve as the DH for Springfield for a few days, allowing him to get at-bats while his injured right forearm returns to full strength.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I will replace all of your comments with "Kozma"...
and only “Kozma” in my mind’s eye.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Kozma, kozmakozma kozma
Kozma kozmakozmakozma. Kozma?! Kozma kozma kozmakozma…
Kozma kozma kozma. Kozmakozmakozma? Kozmakozmakozma kozma kozma kozma.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
This was a way easier mental conversion for me...
than I thought it’d be.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm not a big Descalso believer
he’s just not hitting and that’s not okay for a third baseman, no matter how defensively capable.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
amen
it’s 2010 all over again except I like Descalso and never wanted to root for a team that employed Pedro Feliz
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jun 23, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i believe in descalso, but people have to have reasonable expectations.
he’s a longterm utilty IF – and a pretty good one – or maybe the weak end of a 2b platoon.
that descalso is not a good longterm starting 3b shouldn’t be a surprise or a disappointment. he’s an upgrade on joe thurston, which is the role he’s filling.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Game 1 of the Memphis vs. Iowa Doubleheader
It was cold and rainy after a rain delay pushed back the start time for the first game until around 7:00 P.M. Augenstein started and looked about like one would expect. The I-Cubs chased him from the game in the second inning, aided and abetted by a Tyler Greene error, with Brandon Dickson coming in to relieve. Dickson allowed an inherited Augenstein runner to score, making it 2-0. Those unearned runs would be the I-Cubs only runs. Memphis wound up winning in extra innings. Minor League doubleheader games are only seven innings in length, so this extra-innings game lasted eight innings.
Tyler Greene went one for three with a single, a walk, a stolen base, and two runs scored.
DJ Tools wetn 0 for 1 with a walk and a caught stealing. He then coached first base.
Joe Rapaport hit a homer. (I don’t know who he is, either.)
After striking out feebly in his first PA, Bryan Anderson went two for three with a pair of singles. His BA is now .238.
David Freese went 1 for 3 with a walk. Freese lifted for pinch runner Matt Carpenter in the eighth, who wound up getting gunned down at home plate on Aaron Luna’s game-winning double. In the boxscore, Freese had an RBI single, but the PA was not a great one. He wound up getting badly jammed by a decent but not great fastball, yet somehow managed to fend the pitch off in a sickly fliner to the shallow right field behind the first baseman. The Milesian placement allowed it to fall for a hit.
Dickson allowed 0 runs over 4.2 IP, with 5 H, 1 BB, and 4 SO. He looked pretty good, given the conditions, and spun some nice sliders.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 23, 2011 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Freese's biggest obstacle to being able to return and immediately contribute
is going to be his bat speed on major-league fastballs.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Just the thought of that...
gave him another injury.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Freese's biggest obstacle is to not let the regression train hit him too hard.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
And the impact
will send him on the 15-day DL again.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 23, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The club house has already prepared for Freese's arrival, according to reports they've already
added extra padding in the club house, and they’re going install plugs into every wall outlet.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Lohse may be donating his extra bubble wrap
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
isn't it jim rapaport?
the colby look alike?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Star of MTV Rock-n-Jock fame?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
MTV really needs to reenact their sports initiative...
I have a Dan Cortese-size hole in my heart.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm also...
a medical miracle for still being alive.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Put a bandana over it
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jun 23, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whispy... just hit puberty... mustache?
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
It is Jim Rapaport.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He's a slightly more powerful version of Shane Robinson. You'll probably never see him in the bigs.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
He is even more generic looking in real life.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That is the exact person I'd expect to tell me...
“Well, I played a little ball in the minors.”
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 14 recs
... while showing me real estate.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 14 recs
He might even hug my wife a little too long and awkwardly...
when we close on our house.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 14 recs
Then be the underlying cause of our divorce two years later.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 14 recs
I kinda hate Jim Rapaport.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
haha
What happened here
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 23, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd on all accounts
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Kinda like what Jim Rapaport did to your marriage
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jun 23, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
don't tell me that really happened
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
You know Jim Rappaport?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 23, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If so...
not to be weird… but how is my dog doing? I mean, it’s MY dog since being a puppy. I raised it. I don’t care what she says,
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Thanks for the live tweets last night!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Rapaport's the one with the ridiculous walk rate, right?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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.384 OBP with .262 BA, so I'd deduce that his walk rate is ridiculous.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that's matt carpenter...
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 25, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Also,
all I saw of Jess Todd was him standing behind the bullpen catcher while other pitchers were warming up, to protect the catcher from batted balls.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Rapaport appears in VEB memes as the batting boy and the middle school kid
or something like that. I’m sure a search will turn something up.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Not good news on Sanchez.
La Russa also indicated that the Cardinals are prepared for the possibility that Eduardo Sanchez will be out for more than the minimum 15 days. Sanchez is on the DL due to a right shoulder strain.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
This is bad news.
Still, I don’t know if I find it surprising. In my mind, I guess I always expected him to miss more than just the 15-day minimum. Perhaps because of that huge velocity dip.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Time to call up Samuels( he might be injured, I don't know) and let him complete the trifecta for us.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
ok, that's what i thought, but wasn't sure.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
I'm apparently your new alter-ego...
and apparently no one will notice if we just keep signing in and out of accounts. So me… keeping being me.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
no one will suspect a thing!
o/
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Let's finish each other's sentences...
When I look at Aaron Miles, I take my right hand and start furiously….
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
umm.. that's a nice gesture, but I'd rather not.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
So very me.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
shhhhhhh they might hear us scheming.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
I'm going to love when... well...
me and me have our Fight Club moment… And realize that me is actually me…
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah well,I'm not going to enjoy shooting myself in the face in the end.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Me neither.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Incapable of throwing strikes and hurt
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 23, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Has anyone stayed at the Renaissance St. Louis Grand Hotel?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Once, about six years ago.
All I remember is room service never showed up. SSS!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
How's parking?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Not horrible
It is the corner of 8th and Washington. So you might have to walk a few blocks but you can find free parking.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 23, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
There's a life motto I used to have about that...
“Parking Louis Can’t Lose”…
There was a VERY loosely based sitcom based on my idea of that.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
My wife stayed their for her bacholerette party
and liked it. I’ve never stayed their personally.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Obviously,
my trip to St. Louis for VEB Day has been very well planned.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
There is a Residence Inn off of Jefferson that is nice too.
Not immediately downtown but a 5 minute cab/shuttle ride.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
And by "nice" I mean affordable and not a shit-hole.
It obviously doesn’t compare to the Hilton at the Ballpark, Sheraton, Renaissance, etc.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
And Bernie Miklasz is staying there now!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
His house is being rehabbed.
He keeps pimping that hotel on his show.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
rehabbed?
Who woulda thought Bernie would be that hard on a house?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 23, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Is that the "Galleria" Residence Inn?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No, it's at 44 and Jefferson.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
er 64, not 44. Otherwise known as 40.
Make sense, Saint Louis!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
And it's only a year or two old.
I prefer staying at new hotels.
by Handsome B Wonderful on Jun 23, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
An extended stay?
bgh, Bernie, and divorcees.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That's hitting too close to home.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
It was the hotel our wedding guests stayed at a couple years ago.
And I’ve stayed there once. Rooms are nice, but there are rooms that face inside (looking across an open space at the other side of the building with the 1st/2nd floor atrium below) without any kind of view. I would recommend requesting a room that is on the perimeter of the building so you get an exterior view. Hope that wasn’t too confusing…
by Handsome B Wonderful on Jun 23, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand what you're saying.
In refurbished hotels it isn’t uncommon for their to be what was once a courtyard. And the view is terrible.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The view can be nice at times
The hotel faces out to another hotel and I had some girls flash me before. (Mardi Gras)
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 23, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yes.
in February. quite nice.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
When I think of dips...
this is all that comes to my mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd2PHU_Km4g
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
Question:
So I’m taking my little brother (10) to the game tonight for his birthday. He got to pick the game and he picked tonight because of some backpack they are handing out to the first 25,000 fans.
Do the gates open 2 hours before game time (5:15ish) and what time do you think I need to get there in order to get one of these stupid backpacks?
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
That reminds me of Madonna's cone bra from the early 90's...
with a sports appeal.
Needless to say, I’m going to the Cardinals website for prurient interests later.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
The Cardinals site says:
Stadium gates generally open 2 hours before game time.
Regardless of where your seats are, I would try for the gates towards the “front” of the stadium.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Arriving anytime before 6:30 ought to cover you
Guessing the giveaway is all ages.
Back in my Busch Stadium ushering days, we didn’t really ever run out of promotional items unless it was bobbleheads, pins, or maybe hats. So, I suspect you’ll be absolutely fine if you get there a half hour or so before game time.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Any crazy stories?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Denny Walling once ate a hot dog with mayonnaise.
I mean… who does that???
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
i would
add ketchup and some pickles
toss the bun
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
Your level of crazy is contagious...
and there’s no viable antidote.
No buns all around, friends.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, not really
Had a cool conversation with Jack Buck in 1998 about Big Mac though. Buck and Shannon were both pretty friendly with the ushers. Players were too, though you normally played it cool, said hello, and generally left them alone.
We all had jobs to do after all.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
First 25,000 fans?
You should be in pretty good shape if you get there at the time the gates open.
I went to a giveaway game in ’06 and we got there as the gates opened and still got the bat they were giving away.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
the only crazy REALLY crazy lines i've seen were for the Stan bobblehead
and even then they didn’t run out until around 6:30
also, the first base side gate usually has the least lines
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
Vince Coleman bobblehead ran out ~ 6:40 last year.
Only time I’ve ever missed out on a promotion.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Damn this proglide thing
What an annoyance. I guess Gillette has done the math (a la Fight Club and recall notices) on doing this stupid ad.
If C>A-B, run the ad.
A = The revenue generated by the number of people who click the ad (accidentally or not), watch video, and buy a razor
B = The cost related to the number of people who click the ad (accidentally), get annoyed and decide they hate proglide, and tell everyone they know not to buy it because of their ham-fisted attempt at “integrating social media”.
C = Difference of A minus B
Based on this blog, I’d say most of us fall into the B camp, but who knows.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Bill James on...
internet advertsing.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't blow this for me.
I didn’t spend a year posting a thousand posts elsewhere… just to have this end before it started.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
No
he frequents the MMA sites I read, so I already recognized the avatar!
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
Childen of the night... what music they make.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
What is the name of your act?
The Aristocrats.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet another victim of my year-plus ruse...
Notch that up on the Cody belt of victory.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
heh heh heh
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
heh heh heh
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
In case no one else has posted this,
you can now buy a St. Louis Cardinals toaster. What you stick in it is your business.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 23, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 10 recs
I know what I want for my birthday now.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 23, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
they've had a toaster for a while
it’s even a meme.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
How have I missed the toaster meme?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
well it's not your specific toaster up there
but it’s a toaster.
I dunno, it’s possible that the existence of this toaster flew through and did not register in the collective. but i’ve seen it in product lists for a long time.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I was trying to feed the meme.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
bread goes in
toast comes out
can’t explain that.
/oops wrong meme
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
by CodyG on Jun 23, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i think there are other kitchen tools to stamp the Cards logo on things
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
C'mon Yellon.
The Sandberg Game: A Landmark In Cubs And Baseball History ? I know you’re a myopic homer, but “A Landmark in … Baseball History”? Get over yourself.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 23, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions
Sandberg hit 2 HR and had 7 RBI.
Apparently, a player has had at least 2 HR and at least 7 RBI 378 times in baseball history.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
So Mark Whiten had the Greatest Game in Cardinal and Baseball History?
4 HR, 12 RBI….hitting sixth in the order.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Build a statue!
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 23, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cardinals scored 28 runs in that doubleheader and lost one of the games!
14-13 L
15-2 W
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, yes
I remember the early 90’s teams horrific pitching staffs very, very well.
If it weren’t for Tewk, 1991-1994 would have been a complete hellhole in terms of starting pitching.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Outfielder?
You mean Felix Jose?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Nope.
Wow, that's a ritcheous boxscore.
Plus the addition of the OTHER Chris Carpenter.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
And John Tudor was a pinch hitter.
and 22 different Cardinals played in that game.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
The PxP is awesome.
Brunansky throws out a runner at home in the 16th, THEN Whitey starts the outfield shuffle.
De Leon gets a putout by accident, and then is in LF when the GW double is hit down the LF line.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I remember that he was a good pitcher
that always had bad luck. He was a DAMN good pitcher for a few years there. Better than I remember.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
you think at some point in LF
he thought he was running to center thinking he was in right and just ran into the wall instead?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
ahh, good time to be an infant.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
In fairness
Those staffs had some sensational batting practice throwers.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 23, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Psh
Fernando Tatis beat those numbers in one inning.
by Andyfantastic on Jun 23, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 23, 2011 2:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It was the first TESS
I’d experienced in my life, the first tempter tantrum over a Cardinals loss, it cemented the enmity I have toward the Cubs to this very day. So, yes, I suppose it is a kind of landmark.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 23, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree completely that it was a watershed event in the Cards - Cubs rivalry.
I remember that game well.
But no one else cares.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 23, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The "Sandberg" Game
RE24 for June 23, 1984
Sandburg: 4.6
Willie McGee: 4.7
It’s like only referencing Larry Bird when describing the 88 Eastern Conference Semifinals and not mentioning Dominique Wilkins
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Nique!
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Jun 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were black
I would totally sport the Dominique Wilkins hairdo
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 23, 2011 2:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I remember
having a pair of these back in jr. high.
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 23, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
And, in the interest of full disclosure...
I also had a pair of these in high school. (they looked so SWEET with the acid washed jeans)
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 23, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh.
But most important, it was a game that put the Cubs on the national scene as a serious playoff contender, after years of failure,
How’d that work out for ya, cubbie fans?
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
Here's the afternoon .gif of the day, it's pretty long so grab some popcorn and enjoy
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
What in the world was that?
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
I don't know, I found it to be the right mix of amusing and weird,
so naturally I thought this was the perfect place to share.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
actually I found a simple explanation of it
Obviously a neo-Dadaist commentary on the existential plight of the individual in a mechanized ethos, culminating in the failure of a putative Thoreau-like return to state of nature and a successful Neitzchean rebirth through self-invention/immolation — a neo-Phoenixian parable, if you will, of the mythic path towards self-realization and realization of the self.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
I get the feeling very little of this was done while not on acid.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
also related .gif (two frames, so I felt I was in my right to post it)
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
by CodyG on Jun 23, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's the kind of flair I bring to VEB
you guys are welcome.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
the longer I stare at that, the funnier it gets
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
that was so bizarre
but next time check the new window box when you post a link
i expected more from you, Cody, ts ts ts
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
He may not be used to linking.
Typically he just hijacks the thread by putting the gif in the comment. :)
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't prefer this one more, i just want to share.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
It's like the animated .gif version
of Twin Peaks..
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Who likes my new avatar?
I feel like it accurately reflects my intelligence.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
9 more hours!!!!
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Yea it's gonna be a fun night
Futurama and the NBA draft.
Strangely i’m more excited by Futurama.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
not strange at all, I'm just curious who the cavs pick at one and four, and where Kemba Walker goes the guy who carried me to
to my march madness bracket win.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
I'm a rockets fan
And hopefully they manage to trade up into the top 10. From what i’ve read there certainly trying hard enough.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
NIKOLA VUCEVIC
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Ha
I think there trying to trade up to the 2nd spot, possibly to take Kanter.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I've latched onto a few teams to follow in the NBA, but i'm not a true fan of any team.
The cavs interest me just because of the Lebron situation and the 2 high picks.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Mars ain't the knid of place to raise your kid.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 23, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ROCKETS FAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 23, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh Canada
Your silly.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
My silly?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Your mom silly?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
My silly!
Wherever I go, you’re gonna go!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
my silly and me!
i didn’t want your youthful memories to be left hanging.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
i prefer the rockettes myself
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
Is this a prelude to a thread about Easy Bake Ovens?
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Burning out his fuse out here......
Alone!
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Jun 23, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It's only 8 new episodes this summer, two of which are tonight
so while it’s going to be awesome, it will be over pretty fast.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Hahaha.
so while it’s going to be awesome, it will be over pretty fast.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
haha, nice catch.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
All the best things in life are
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Is that what you tell the girls?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 23, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
It works. Get their expectations so low, that anything more than 35 seconds is a bonus.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Some ladies buck harder than others lmao
But it’s all good as long as you yell surprise first. jk lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I'm glad D Dee hasnt seen this
I could do without a good stabbing.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Futurama and the loss of virginity are forever linked.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
STILL COUNTS
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Jun 23, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
the fate of our season rests with nick punto, david freese, and lance lynn.
…
…
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
we need a reliable 3B, 2B/SS and a long reliever
barring injuries i think those three might really deliver that
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
Matt Carpenter!!!
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
i'd take batman over lil carp
at least for now
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
Personally...
I’m tired of vigilante justice.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i think they will, too, actually
but it sounds awful to say out loud
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
mmmmm... moo burger
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
he's not coming back anytime soon.
if we wait for him, we’re doomed
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Time for Brown/Hamilton to make something of their opportunities while up, because they were both killing the ball
in memphis.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
His mustache makes me vote for Pedro.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Jon Jay needs to get that slacking bum Rasmus out of the lineup.
/sarcasm text
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
fun fact
mark hamilton has hit 2 HRs in memphis
his batting line is a bit of a mirage
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I want to see this MATT ADAMS guy
he kills the ball.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
fun fact
matt adams has 2 walks in springfield
he’s also hurt i think
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
injured back
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
I remember while near death...
looking at the bleached skulls of dead animals in a barren, arid desert… while crawling to lap at the oasis of Hamilton’s batting line.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're my new favorite poster
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
HEH HEH HEH
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
HEH HEH HEH
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
keep him away from the free weights
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
And Albert!
It’s like trading for a Hall of Famer at the deadline…errr….yeah.
by WizardofOz1982 on Jun 27, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
that's brilliant
They said that the jonjay to Ladakh was the most terrifying way to spend eight hours on this Earth. They said it was a trip fit for only the most intrepid, danharen of men. It practically bellowed his name
The johnlackey one was the most plausible sounding. Also, best URL ever.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Every other page I try to go to doesn't load and gets stuck on "Sending requests"
VEB still updates
WHAT IS THIS WITCHERY
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
what browser?
also, don’t try to refresh veb while that’s happening
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
Chrome
Now everything’s back to working though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Chrome... pfft.
Try Platinum, friend.
That’s what I have on m yacht when I’m bored at sea. The rest of the time I’m busy being rich and awesome, serf.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
funny, 2 minutes ago i was going to tell rui
he was only kissing your ass cause he knew you were rich and then you post this
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
It's a simple matter of web proxies and ACLs
controlled by your local IT team. You’ll find that they can access all the porn you can’t get to, as well. “For testing purposes” of course.
your youtube simpsons clip of the week
it’s 15 minutes long
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_26S3KBE04&
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
I'm 3 minutes in
I will keep you updated on my sanity.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
5 minutes and i want to back out of this challenge i gave myself.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Halfway through you start to know what they're saying. Then I met a leprechaun. He told me to burn things.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
by CodyG on Jun 23, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My brain has turned to mush.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
i need to hide a speaker somewhere
and wake my roommate up by playing this on repeat very loudly and see how long it takes him to flip out
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
If i hadn't done this to myself, I'd be pissed about something like that,
but man would it be funny.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
12 minutes, i'm so close.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
less than a minute left.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
doesn't count if you're not intently watching ti the whole time
start over
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
damn, the sound was enough to make me go something something
no thanks.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Doodily dodily didily dodily.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
All Bart butt shots...
Don’t click unless you like animated prepubescent assmeat.
Chris Hansen is standing on guard for the rest of you.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNsWsghuCfM
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I'm sorry for my poor choice as the clip picker
so here’s what I choice instead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9VgcDGk8rs
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
i thought Albert was placed on the DL?
mlb.com has him as day-to-day
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
he is on the DL
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=stl
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Haha.
Listed as day-to-day and due back in early August.
Quality.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
KMOX 1120 First Pitch
Has anyone done this before? I am thinking about trying this out for Saturday’s game. I am trying to think were I can park for free though.
Anywhere on the street with a meter, since it's a weekend night.
And spots south of the stadium on the street without meters.
Haven’t done first pitch in a few years so don’t know if it’s changed. Used to be a good deal, though.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
First Pitch was a good deal last year.
I remember some comments about it being done away with (?) so I don’t know if it has changed for this season.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I thought it had been since KTRS sponsored it,
but noticed a sign for KMOX doing it last time I was at Busch.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
there was a conversation about it recently
and links confirming that it’s back
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
It is back. I found the link accidently earlier this week
I did it last year and I enjoyed it. If you’re doing it on the weekend you may want to get there early. They start selling them at 9am I believe. I think I’ll try getting tickets to the game like that too.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jun 23, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
freese on now
http://www.kfns.com/Other/streamtheworld-1380.html
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
sweet. i get to see martinez and miller
@dgoold Derrick Goold
Carlos Martinez and Shelby Miller, for a second time, will represent #Cardinals in 2011 Futures Game at Arizona, per #mlb #stlcards
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Joe Strauss
“Hearing Cleto optioned to make room for LHP Raul Valdes. Other roster shenanigans as well. Check @stltoday for more details.”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jun 23, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice. Hopefully dropping wither Tallet or Miller.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
copycat
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Terrific!
Cleto, I want to see you again. Next year after you’ve learned how to pitch.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
I'm intrigued by Cleto
100 MPH fastballs will do that. No second pitch or command is a bit unnerving though.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 23, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 23, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i mean
it’s pretty nasty all the time. it just doesn’t hit the strikezone. it’s not like Motte, where first the pitch is completely telegraphed, and secondly you never know how much the pitch is going to break.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
roster moves, per strauss
JoeStrauss Joe Strauss
Hearing Cleto optioned to make room for LHP Raul Valdes. Other roster shenanigans as well. Check @stltoday for more details.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
From the PD
ST. LOUIS — The Cardinals continued to reshape their bullpen by promoting Class AAA lefty Raul Valdes to the major-league roster.
To make room in the big-league bullpen for Valdes, the Cardinals optioned Maikel Cleto to Class AA Springfield. The Cardinals also moved righty David Kopp off of the 40-man roster and moved Bryan Augenstein, a reliever who opened the season in the majors, from the 60-day disabled list to the 40-man roster. Augenstein was then optioned to Class AAA Memphis.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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who the hell is david kopp and why was he on the 40-man to begin with
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Starter getting blasted in Springfield, I believe
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But he had the BEST MECHANICS in his draft!!!
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
Starter
He’s a kid out of Clemson who had a nice delivery according to some. He’s never really put it together though.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 23, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I told them to do these things weeks ago!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
i gotta think that miller is skating on thin ice
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
i think they are both on thin ice
and if Valdes preforms, one will be leaving.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Or when Sanchez comes back. Maybe.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Sanchez may be a ways away
I think we are carrying 13 pitchers now. Maybe when punto or freese come back
Grit != flat out sucking.
so, 2012 then? Maybe 2013?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 25, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
they both suck
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
put Ottavino in the pen in memphis and then bring him up when he's settled in!!!
same with cleto, mostly because i don’t see how he can be expected to switch from a SP to a RP every callup from AA to MLB.
at least put him against some AAA hittters.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Also, DFA miller.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
I would like to see Ottavino in the pen also...
DFA Franklin….call up/Ottavino
DFA Miller……call up/add Greenwood or Freeman
Then DFA Tallet when Sanchez comes back
by mick311 on Jun 23, 2011 3:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Todd, Ottavino, Cleto, or even Dickson
Would all be upgrades over Franklin. I still dont see how the guy is taking up a roster spot….he never even pitches anyway
by mick311 on Jun 23, 2011 3:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Franklin has a 20.6 % HR/FB rate, he can regress to a replacement level pitcher if luck has anything to do with it.
also a low 62.8 % LOB%, he deserves to be on the roster IMO more than Batista.
also he actually has a 2.29 K/BB.
/I hate myself for defending Franklin
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
I dont know how much luck has anything to do with it
When you hang breaking balls right over the plate for guys to crush…. if guys like Cameron Maybin are taking you deep to straight away center its not bad luck…
by mick311 on Jun 23, 2011 3:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have watched Franklin pitch
And I, for one, don’t believe that his HR/FB rate has much to do with luck.
I think Tallet gets DFA'd before Miller
Not saying Tallet is any worse than Miller, but Miller has more of a track record. I’d prefer sending Miller to the DL with “tendonitis” and then give him a rehab assignment to find his command.
by Handsome B Wonderful on Jun 23, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
this, this, this
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
slowly, the VEB hive-mind takes over the ballclub.
yes, yes, we can take it from here.
succumb, mr. mozeliak.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
If only they listened to us back in february, we wouldn't have had to wait for Batista/Sanchez/Kopp/Valdes
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
key word:slowly.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Anyone know where our rule v AAA pick is?
I remember him being a LHP
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
this guy
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa455899&position=P
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
meh, took a bit of google, but he's on the batavia DL
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Cool story Cody
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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everyone was interested, right?
I AM INTERESTING!
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
i hope i don't come to regret following david freese on twitter
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
this, also
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
beware strange men bearing twit pics!
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
are you following him?
i prefer to think of my hot baseball players as also being capable of holding a conversation with me
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
No. I don't think I follow any athletes.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
check out his profile - you'll see what i mean
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
And that's why I don't follow athletes!
Nice costume, though. 9/10 points awarded.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
His profile picture caused me to decide on not following him.
The only ballplayers I follow are Eduardo Sanchez and Jon Jay. I don’t know why I follow Jay but Sanchez’s tweets are awesome, especially his referring to Salas as “Ferd.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i follow a lot of them...even brandon phillips
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
all of the above
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
so, is Valdes actually good? lefty splits in the majors are great
but that is a very small sample size
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
and also-
the next move will be Tallet for Augenstein- yes?
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
i imagine they want to check out valdes before cutting a lefty
i’ve heard that he didn’t impress the coaching staff during spring training
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
His numbers in minors aren't all that great this year.
He’d been phenomenal the last month, though. Maybe they found something?
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
or he wasn't in a specialized role in memphis.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
Looks like he started some games that went horribly.
His numbers in the minors as a reliever this year are tremendous.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
good point
i guess i am moving forward under the assumption that Valdes is going to be good.. i probably shouldn’t do that yet.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
Jim Riggleman just resigned as Nats manager
wat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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wat
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
in the middle of a season where they could actually contend?
wat
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
bet he was tweeting dick shots.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 23, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And they just swept a series to get to .500
Apparently he’s upset his option didn’t get picked up
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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i see that. that's kind of a dick move.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
All over the Twitters
Though mlbtraderumors has it up now
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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he also apparently almost got in a fight with Jason Marquis
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
anyone have any more info on this?
Just curious.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
that's kind of a jerk move, if that's the motivation.
if you’re not “the guy” going forward, as he says, then work the rest of your contract and let everybody else know you’re available. if you’re struggling to maintain respect or discipline in the clubhouse because you’re seen as a placeholder, then let the front office know they need to find a replacement. give them a month, three weeks. don’t resign and walk out the door.
whatever the relationship is with the FO, you can’t forget the players or the fans (and yes, this is washington, but still, the fans).
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
I sort of admire anyone who's willing to say "fuck off" to the front office
it’s a high-profile, high-paying job – certainly not an easy thing to walk away from. I’ve seen Riggleman’s teams hand the Cards asses to themselves too many times the last couple years not to have a lot of respect for him. Hope wherever he goes, he lands on his feet.
by peppermartin on Jun 23, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
A poster on the article I read
said that he’d been trying to get the FO to talk to him about the option and that they wouldn’t even consider it. So, he got pissed and gave them an ultimatum. Dunno if it’s true or not.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 23, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
HIRE JACK MCKEON
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
cards' manager 2012?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 23, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you know i wish our manager would spontaneously do that
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
haha his team just swept the great Mariners.
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
wait
isn’t that the sixth best organization in baseball??
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
Why the hell
are people discussing baseball? Confused !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
You shut your dirty mouth
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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that's crazy
the Nats are playing the best ball they have since 2005 when they came here.
youneverknow
I can't decide whose side I'm on
Usually in manager vs FO feuds, I’m with the manager
But he literally quit on his team mid-season because of his own contract
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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i agree. i am usually with the manager, too, and even in this circumstance, i can see why he's upset
but leaving in the middle of the season with the team in contention for a WC spot rubs me the wrong way.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
By all accounts Riggleman is one of the "good guys" in baseball
there’s gotta be more to this story
by Handsome B Wonderful on Jun 23, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a real surprise - he was doing a heckuva job
and not in a George Dubya kind of way
by peppermartin on Jun 23, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah....
on first blush it definitely looks selfish, but I reckon we haven’t heard the whole saga yet. I mean, who quits when they’ve won 11 of 12?
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Marlins one up Nationals
Fire McKeon, hire John McGraw.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 23, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i wonder if he's still going to coach at the all-star game?...
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
CardsInsider
STL Lineup vs PHI (6/23): Theriot, ss; Jay, rf; Holliday, lf; Berkman, 1b; Rasmus, cf; Schumaker, 2b; Cruz, c; Carpenter, p; Descalso, 3b.
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Why no Yadi?
Didn’t Carp get Cruz last time also? I may be wrong but I can’t remember any point last year when Yadi was healthy and didn’t catch one of Carp’s starts.
by mick311 on Jun 23, 2011 6:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
gotta let those knees rest
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jun 23, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree....just odd to see him rest with Carp
On the mound
by mick311 on Jun 23, 2011 6:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
...
A source close to the situation said Wong is expected to fly to Missouri as early as this weekend to sign a contract with a bonus in the seven-figure range, pending a physical.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I cant wait till
Wong gets his first extension.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
by mob16151 on Jun 23, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
OK, I'll be the first
with the obligatory rec.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I've finally made it to the big time............
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
The question is...
Will he jack a dong?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on Jun 23, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Even though it seems like some sort or rec abatory thing…….a ma jig.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
We call that
a circle-jerk.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Not room for that
in my moms basement.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Wong goes deep?
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 23, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wong really nailed that
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Ha!!!!!
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
a Wong Dong
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I'm so glad we signed this guy
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2011 4:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he does satisfy mysterui's request for a player with a cool name
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Wong satisfies a lot of things
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jun 23, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
your mother's taught you well
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 57
by d-dee on Jun 23, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Almost as good as when the Bills
drafted Ed Wang.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
The Bills offensive line has
A Wood,Wang, and a LeVitre. Unsurprisingly some people like to call them the cockblockers.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
by mob16151 on Jun 23, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
John Marecek
Heard this: Tony Cruz catching tonight, b/c Molina told Mo, “Either pick up my option now, or I aint catchin tonight.” #stlcards
https://twitter.com/#!/JohnMarecek/status/84003126016880641
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 23, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
color me skeptical....
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
lulz
i like Marecek.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
Riggleman has Cardinal connections
and would make a nice addition to the dug-out. Not saying someone else should go, and I suppose there are limits on the number of coaches you can have. Just sayin
Not sure I want someone who quits on their team because of a contract dispute.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Bunting coach?
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 23, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
2nd LOOGY?
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Oh my god.
Does anybody else get pissed off watching January Jones “act?” She is seriously an awful actress. I can’t stand the timid, polite character she plays. Her voice gets on my nerves as well.
She’s kind of ruining Mad Men for me. I literally despise every scene she’s in because it’s the same thing every time. “Oh, I’m just a poor wife who knows my husband is cheating on me but is afraid to do anything about it because I’m afraid to do anything really”
Does anybody else feel this way?
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
I don't know who she is.
Is she Bosnian?
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Jun 23, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Sounds like a Bosnian.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Jun 23, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Well, she's got a pretty face.
That’s about all she’s good for on that show though.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That body is banging as well
Go check out the new x men movie.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Such a good movie. Need to see that again.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
I think her character is annoying, but I don't despise her personally
Besides it makes Don more likeable.
oh, i think you meant to post over here.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Seems to die-hard fan-like blog for me.
Probably a blog where if you say anything negative about Mad Men you get ripped alive.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Elizabeth Moss that I can't stand. Boy, is she homely.
More Alison Brie!
by peppermartin on Jun 23, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Alison Brie? Sounds like some sort of Tamias to me.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
that is what surprised me most about that show
how the hell they made Elizabeth Moss homely.
I might have a bit of a crush on Elizabeth Moss
i might try the first pitch tickets tomorrow.
has anyone tried this? should i just be able to walk up at 9 and buy a voucher or do i need to get there early and get in line?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 23, 2011 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
You answer a bridge troll's riddle in the full moonlight...
Afterwards if you kiss a frog and it becomes a prince…. and drink a hearty witch’s brew while not getting hexed…. then and only then, can you gaze upon Skip Schumaker from 100’s of feet away whule eating nachos.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 23, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This perfectly answered his question...
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Should I invite the fishstripers to root for the Cards with us tonight? Or just let that particular dog die?
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
I'd leave them be.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I wouldn't go over to the Nats site
they’re a surly bunch tonight
by peppermartin on Jun 23, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
they're always welcome
I only have the tiniest worries about them swarming us
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jun 23, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Smoltz interviewing Berkman on MLBN
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
could i get the link to that old post with links to the proxy finder and proxy tester?
I can’t find it by searching
by QuadCitiesCardsFan on Jun 23, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
its in that great post someone did about mlb.tv and boxee a couple years ago
by QuadCitiesCardsFan on Jun 23, 2011 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
It is in Flimtotheflam's sig
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