Rosenthal: Pujols out 4 to 6 weeks with 'small fracture in wrist'
by bgh on Jun 20, 2011 12:51 PM EDT
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FOX's Ken Rosenthal tweets:
Cardinals' Pujols out 4 to 6 weeks with small fracture in wrist.
**UPDATE:**
The St. Louis Cardinals twitter feed elabortates:
BREAKING: Albert Pujols has a non-displaced fracture of his left radius (forearm). He will likely be sidelined 4-6 weeks.
**END OF UPDATE**
The Cardinals now have yet another hole in their lineup due to injury--a three-time MVP sized hole. The lineup that started Opening Day against the San Diego Padres has been missing key players for large chunks of time all season. In terms of position players, it has most notably missed third baseman David Freese, who begins a rehab stint with Triple-A Memphis tonight in Des Moines against the I-Cubs, and Silver Slugger Matt Holliday, who only just recently returned from a hamstring injury that landed him on the disabled list. Pujols had heated up with the Midwestern weather, helping to fill the voids left by Freese and Holliday in his uniquely Pujolsian way. Now, for the first time in his career, the Cardinals will have to attempt to fill in for their once-in-a-generation franchise player over an extended period of time.
The historic nature of Pujols's first ten seasons has been well-documented. In traditional baseball stats, no player has ever started his career with ten consecutive seasons of at least a .300 batting average, at least 30 homers, and at least 100 RBI. One of the relatively unsung facets of Pujols's remarkable consistency has been his remarkable good health. In order to tally the benchmark seasonal counting stat totals that he has, Pujols had to be in the lineup. And he was. Pujols has totaled 700 PA three times, never dug into the batter's box less than 634 times in a given season, and averaged 678 PA per season through his first ten.
Since breaking into the big-leagues in 2001, Pujols has lost a grand total of 43 days to injury and never more than 19 in a season. It is likely that Pujols will surpass his highest single-season total for days missed to injury, if not more than double that total. A 2011 baseball card back that is as near-perfect as a baseball card back could be will give way to a 2012 card with a 2011 stat line reflecting a slow start and an injury that halts a statistical recovery fueled by the great Pujols hitting like the great Pujols.
It remains to be seen how the club will shuffle its roster, batting order, and defensive formation in the wake of the Pujols injury. The most likely shift seems to be the one that took place yesterday with Lance Berkman moving to first base and some combination of Jon Jay, Andrew Brown, and Allen Craig (once he returns from the DL) receiving the bulk of the playing time in right field. One other possibility, though less likely, is that Mark Hamilton, he of the .385/.504/.538/1.042/.468 wOBA line in Memphis, will again board the Memphis Shuttle and allow Tony La Russa maximum flexibility as he attempts to generate runs in Pujols's absence. The lineup will likely see Holliday move up to the third slot and Berkman batting cleanup as he did during Holliday's DL stay. Whether Rasmus moves back down to the fifth spot in the order remains to be seen. Most certainly Freese's rehab assignment and return to St. Louis just became even more important than previously thought.
With Pujols hitting the DL, the Cardinals have now utilized this roster categorization more times in 2011 than the club did in all of 2010. In a season that could go down as "The Year of the Injury," it is a testament to the players and the coaches that this team sits tied atop the National League Central today. That due credit being given, there is little doubt that losing Pujols for a prolonged stretch will prove a stiffer test than any yet presented this season.
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TREPIDATIOUS INDEED
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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This is what we get for looking forward to everyone being healthy.
We’ve been tempting the GOBs. We did this to ourselves.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Have you met the local media?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
He's small enough to hide in the doctor's pocket.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Jun 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
At least they found it
instead of screwing around for 2 weeks.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
had the same exact injury
hard cast for 6 weeks, but no lasting effect
i suspect with all the attention he’ll get that apu will beat 6 weeks
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
So this week's lineup is
SS Theriot
RF Jay
LF Holliday
1B Berkman
CF Rasmus
C Molina
3B Descalso
2B Schumaker
P
Yikes.
Falcon Punch!
Is Craig back this week?
He should be able to take a few games away from Descalso and Schumaker, assuming he’s still on track.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Craig won't be back for three to five weeks himself.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
he has a fractured kneecap or sth right?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
Yes.
The June 6th report from the Post-Dispatch:
Cardinals outfielder-second baseman Allen Craig will miss three to six weeks after an examination Tuesday in St. Louis revealed that he suffered a small fracture in his right patella last week in Houston, general manager John Mozeliak said Wednesday.
So, by my math, he is two to five weeks away from a return.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
June 6th was exactly 2 weeks ago . . .
Am I missing something?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
You've forgotten the Progressing Nicely factor.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh.
June 16th. Yet another typing miscue.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It's the carpal tunnel I'm developing...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
make sure your wrists are in neutral when you type
when I first started my current job, I noticed I was developing some symptoms. I started looking at my workstation: I had a keyboard with a wrist pad and a mouse with a wrist pad. I took the wrist pad off the keyboard and turned the mousepad sideways so the wrist pad is out of my way and now I’m symptom free. I also keep the keyboard in my lap most of the time so that I can rock back in my chair and not have to reach out for the keyboard.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
When you say "neutral,"
do you mean a straight line?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Heh
I do that too with my mousepad. That is why the side of it is all black and he wrist pad is clean as a whistle
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 1.0 as of Jun 20
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stretching helps A LOT
there is a very simple exercise i do during long drives or throughout the day of my wrists start hurting again
3 years ago i was at the point where i couldn’t put any pressure on them and had to sleep with splints on but i’m quite okay now
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
Punto and Freese are due back next week-ish
hopefully sending Kozma back to Memphis and returning to a 12 man bullpen
Falcon Punch!
dumping cleto will be nice
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
why?
there’s in this world, IMO, that can’t be improved by dumping Miguel Batista.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 20, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm assuming you're missing 'isn't much' from this sentence?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He included those words
he just spelled them “Miguel Batista.”
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 20, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I'm assuming you're missing my fist from your cakehole????
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 20, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Spoken like an American
Well, we usually say “piehole” around here instead of “cakehole” but I’m still very proud of you.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
I'm proud of him as well.
It was an impressive display of indignation.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
cake? wedding cake?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
oh yeah, wedding cake
it has to be cut first. that part’s very important.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
by cschepers on Jun 20, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Touchy Brit is touchy
sorry, it just didn’t make much sense the way it was. I was just wanting to know if I read it correctly.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet they rush Freese's rehab assignment
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
thats what i fear
the way freese is talking, he wants (and will get) all the time he needs.
by miamigirl54 on Jun 20, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
They already bumped the start of his rehab from Tues to today.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he'll be in the lineup tomorrow then
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I don't anticipate them rushing Freese.
The target for Freese’s return is already Monday against Baltimore. Maybe they bring him to St. Louis a couple of days sooner, but I don’t see any great benefit to doing that.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Personally, I don't see the importance of an extended rehab assignment
I view it sort of in the same light as the Shelby Miller discussion from a few days back. Freese is healthy enough to play baseball, he might as well be doing it with the big club. I’d think the odds of some minor leaguer missing location and re-breaking his hand are higher than a major leaguer. Sure, give him a couple of days to see live pitching in game situations, then get him back in the lineup where he belongs before he malfunctions again.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
To me, it's all about timing.
Different players require more time to re-acquaint themselves with game-style pitching. Some injuries allow for more work to be done. I don’t know what all Freese has been doing in terms of tee and cage work, but, if he comes back soon and hits like Descalso it isn’t really that helpful. So, why not let him get to where he feels comfortable. I mean, just look at the rushed-back Skip Schumaker! Now that he is no longer in the post-rushed back phase, he is hitting walkoff dingers!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It's still not a bad lineup.
Our top 6 isn’t bad at all, and there are few teams that are strong at 7 and 8.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
If our pitching fails to suck
we’ll be okay. Even with Pujols hitting league average or whatever, we’ve been winning games.
"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill
could have been much worse
small fracture is better than torn ligament. Sounds similar to the Sandoval injury/timeframe
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
This was my reaction.
In my mind, the best case scenario was a fracture and 6-week disabled list trip. I’m interested to see if any other details come out with the official word.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yeah, there could be plenty more to come
We don’t have a whole lot to go off of here. Rosenthal’s tweet could just be from X-ray results with MRI results still pending. MRI is going to give us news of any ligament/tendon involvement
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
That's what I was thinking.
Its substance and lack of official word combined to make me wonder if the MRI is still pending.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
If it was just a fracture, I'd be relieved
Let’s just hope there’s no classic “delayed St Louis medical staff diagnosis” pertaining to a ligamentous problem discovered when the fracture has healed.
by olddomination on Jun 20, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
bite your tongue
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
Maybe we've already had it?
I thought yesterday’s x-rays had revealed nothing broken…a fracture is a type of broken, right?
Have we had the worst?
X-Rays taken right after the fact can miss broken bones
Swelling needs to go down. Which is why they said, “we didn’t find anything today, but we are holding off until tomorrow before making an official release.”
Grit != flat out sucking.
Remember when the Giants were in St. Louis at the beginning of the month
And Brandon Belt got drilled in the wrist? He also had a fracture in his wrist and is suppose to come back next week. So I imagine Albert will be out no longer than six weeks.
this SUCKS
was excited to see him next week. he didn’t sell this “small injury” he got hurt, damn. we need you freese
what? fuuuuu
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
I feel like it is important to post this Will Carroll tweet,
seemingly made in response to Al:
Comps btw Pujols and Cliff Floyd are bad ones. Floyd had multiple fx, needed screws. Moreover, Floyd missed two months.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Somebody comfort me by giving a WAR-lost estimate, quick.
Berk slides to first most days, Jay plays every day… how much is the Pujols-to-Jay hit over 4-6 weeks, with slight allowance made for better defense in RF?
Let's say Pujols was a 5.5 WAR player this year
Let’s say Jay is a 2.5 WAR player full-time
Let’s say Pujols is going to miss 25 games
.85 WAR – .39 WAR = .46 WAR
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Wow, that's pretty pallatable
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
actually he's a decimal off
it’s 4.6 WAR
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
How do you figure
I think he is subtracting jay WAR over 25 games from pujols…so the decimals are correct
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 2:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is joke
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That's gratifying, since my initial reaction was "eh, half a win then"
And also because it’s a fairly small number. Not that I don’t take half-wins seriously — it’s just that .46 WAR lost is less depressing than the emotional impact of “Albert’s hurt” would suggest.
What about Berkman's defensive adjustment?
He’s much better at the relatively stationary first base than right field, isn’t he?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Captured in WAR, brah
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by mysterui on Jun 20, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess I just see a WAR-to-WAR comp of the loss of Pujols against the value of Jay.
Shouldn’t Berkman be considered in this comparison?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Not really
He’ll play better defense at first, but that’s mitigated by the positional adjustment, so he’ll be the same player (as far as WAR is concerned)
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So, the positional offensive adjustment equals the change in defensive skill?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Theoretically
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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apparently playing 1B is harder on him, though, and we can't afford to lose him
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
platoon with Craig?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe, but craig is probably the better OF of the two,
so my proposal to put craig there probably isn’t a very good one. get hamilton up here for a couple weeks. if not him, then adams
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
whatever it takes
to keep the strain off Berkman’s legs at 1st. I heard him say that too…about 1st being harder on him than OF.
So far, I’m not impressed with Hamilton. He needs to fish or cut bait.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he needs to bat more than once a week before we make any kind of judgment
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
And total more than 27 PAs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that's true
but I wish he’d do something with the chances he gets.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Jay is a 2.5 WAR player?
Give some of that weed you’re on…
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 20, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He currently has a .356 wOBA, projected for a .336 wOBA going forward
League average wOBA is .315. He’s average to above-average in the field
How is 2.5 WAR full time completely ridiculous?
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might be conservative given how above average his defense is
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Yeah, he looks plus to me
Maybe a +7 or so
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He has a .370 BABIP?!
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 20, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, so he's about a .336 wOBA guy with a normalized BABIP
Which is still .15 points above league average
Since about 2 WAR is league average, it’s not a stretch, by ANY means, to call Jay a 2.5 WAR player
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I'm confused here though.
Normalized? I’d consider that .320-.330 right? Well that’s 40 points downward yet his wOBA only goes down 20 points? How does that work exactly?
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 20, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
ZiPS anticipates him to walk a bit more than he has so far this year
So while the batting average falls about in line with his BABIP, his OBP (and therefore wOBA) don’t fall as much
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Oh ok
Why is Jon Jay still penciled in for negative defense though? That doesn’t make sense to me.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 20, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
UZR in a ~120 PA sample size
I feel like you know all of this already
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people dissing Jay is starting to be a stereotypical reflex
2.5 WAR is entirely possible… plus it appears UZR is not evaluating his defense that well. or maybe I’m overvaluing his defense. but anyway, the dude is pretty fast so that should help his WAR total also.
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know why people still automatically thing Jay will be great at defense.
Over 945 innings he has been worth -6.5 runs. Assuming he is a +7 fielder is a +16 run jump from his current average.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
Er, 900 innings is like the equivalent of, what, 200 at bats?
And with measurement error to boot. I mean Jay is pretty obviously a plus defender in the corners. Uzr shouldn’t dissuade anyone of that opinion.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At least not yet
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 20, 2011 11:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd say that's pretty true
But you instantly defend Jay every time someone says something slightly negative about him.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 21, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Wrist injuries sap power
They just do. This absolutely blows balls
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 1:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I thought those were more associated with ligament damage
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No
Even though Sandoval returned from his wrist injury after six weeks, they think he won’t get his power back until next season.
Exactly
Just as he was really regaining his stroke too.
by WizardofOz1982 on Jun 20, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
the word "wrist" is being thrown around a bit.
The injuries that screw people up (hamate bones, e.g., derosa, mather) are injuries in the carpals, because they are these round, pebble-like bones that all roll against each other and have nerves running through their middles.
Pujols has a radius fx, which is a long, straight bone. Very different from a hamate fracture.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jun 20, 2011 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 6 recs
And the same injury that ruined Derrek Lee.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
shudder
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Derrek Lee who had no history
of power except for a year or 2, of course.
He averaged 28 HRs a year as a regular for five years before his ridiculous 2005.
And 24 a year since then. So not as dramatic as a loss of power as is commonly thought of.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
He averaged 28 HRs a year as a regular for five years before his ridiculous 2005.
And 24 a year since then. So not as dramatic as a loss of power as is commonly thought of.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
When did that injury occur?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
like two weeks into the 2006 season. Right after he signed his big contract.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Back in 2006? Because if we treat 2005 like the outlier it probably his, his power numbers after that don't look out of line with his career.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Right...
So, was that a sarcastic use of the word “ruined”? And I just missed it?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
runied is too strong of a word. But Cubs fans were convinced he had become better than Pujols so I like to bring him up as much as possible.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I can't complain about that
I still think it’s kind of weird that neither Lee nor Jones won the MVP award in 2005 but Albert did. As far as I can tell he won it as a consolation prize for having to compete with Bonds in all his prior years. But then the next two years they decided to change the award to Most Valuable Philly (Whose Name Is Not Chase Utley). Bizarre.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
that year Rollins won it
when IIRC he wasn’t in like the top 20 in NL WAR, that was an absolute joke.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 20, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, according to Fangraphs WAR, he was seventh in the NL at 6.9 WAR
So it was an absolute joke given the seasons Wright, Pujols, Utley, Holliday, and Chipper Jones had, (Also, Alfonso Soriano is listed at 7.0 WAR with a ridiculous UZR of 33.2 which just seems bizarre) but it wasn’t a complete and total and absolute joke.
Fun fact: in 2006, Ryan Howard’s 6.2 WAR season was also seventh best in the NL, equivalent (pretty much) to what Lance Berkman and Andruw Jones did that year.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
And also he was just getting older too
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Come on, in baseball years 30 is like, "AARP membership" old
Wait a minute… [looks at his own words] … [looks at Albert Pujols’ date of birth]
FUCK
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
sometimes I have a very hard time liking you.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
How do the AARP members feel, I wonder?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still waiting for mine
but all I get are offers for free hearing aid tests and pre-arranged funeral offers.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep in mind I'm 90% of the way to 30
So if I’m insulting anybody, I’m basically insulting a version of myself from the near future.
And I wanna stay on that guy’s good side, because I want him to lend me his hover board.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
and besides...
he might leave you his walker someday.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Enjoy the last three years, you're gonna need it.
of course, they keep telling me that 40 is the new 30. Wait a minu………….Fuck! I’m past that too.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
don't believe that for a minute.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha
You’re. I saw wrist and assumed the worst. Still, a “forearm” fracture, which is what this should be termed, can sap power and decrease range of motion
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 1:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
curse of Boog
/conspiracy theory
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah wrist injuries are terrible
but maybe he recovers that power in the offseason
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
this certainly unleashes 'the Tony'
line-up wise, I mean. In the pencil-in world of LaRussa the one thing you could at least bank on was that Pu would hit third (and Holliday 4th, if he was healthy to play).
For the next few weeks, there is NO line-up spot that you can be sure of.
Tony will be as active as a 6-yr-old with a new box of legos.
I'm sure Yadi, Holliday, and Berkman will all see time at first base.
And eventually Craig, as well.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing we'll see mostly Berkman and Hamilton at 1B -- maybe Brown some, too
Seems pretty unlikely that Yadi will see any time there with Laird on the DL.
I wouldn't expect Yadi to start or log significant innings there
but we could see him over there in a blowout situation.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Still seems hugely unlikely to me
This team has other options at 1B in a blowout, like Hamilton. Yadi’s legs will be on the bench in a blowout situation.
It would be pretty odd to lose your 1B to injury and not call up your AAA-destroying 1B to fill in
But I suppose I shouldn’t try to predict Cardinals’ roster management.
He may destroy in AAA
But so far in the majors he’s looked foolish. I know a lot of it has to do with seeing no playing time and only a few PH appearances, but still he looks ridiculous when he’s at the plate. Perhaps a regular job at 1b will help.
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhhhh
bring him up for the pre-game entertainment. might take the sting out.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
OT
so lets say this team overcomes month long injuries to starters at 1B, LF, 3B, and 2B, UTIL, Back up Catcher and season long injury to its Ace and closer due to sucking.
lets just say this team makes it to the postseason – would it be fair to have them play in an expanded playoffs against some crappy 3rd wildcard team just so MLB can make more money?
Buster Olney clips on Bernie...
What an ass. He thinks this is career threatening to Albert. “He may loose his power…or never be the same player”
He also thinks this will hurt his free agent value. I knew something like this (down season, serious injury) would happen to Albert if he didn’t sign a contract before the year. I wonder if he will actually lose significant money because of this.
by mick311 on Jun 20, 2011 1:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Perhaps the GOBs are actually conspiring to keep Albert in St Louis
by olddomination on Jun 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I listened to it
I don’t think you’re accurately representing what he said. The part you’re citing were if he had a season ending injury and still weren’t quite what you said.
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
Damn, we should have listened when he made up the Pujols for Howard rumor
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
why anyone still thinks anything olney says is of any value or has any truth to it
is a mystery to me
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by d-dee on Jun 20, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i agree with all of that
he may never be the same hitter and it’s probably going to cost him a lot of money unless he comes back and picks up where he left off
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Buster Olney is not a source I go to for information.
Apparently, the Phillies were interested in trading Ryan Howard for Albert Pujols. I know… breaking news.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 20, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Jun 20, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rainsface.
BJRains Cardinals announce Pujols has a non-displaced fracture of his left radius (forearm). Expected to miss 4-6 weeks. #stlcards
Scoot, please translate.
Yeah, that's my reaction too.
The radius is one of the two big bones making up your forearm. It’s not one of the little tiny ones in the wrist (hamate, etc.) that supposedly linger and sap power even after they’re “healed.” At least, that’s what comes off the top of my (non-medical) head.
That's a pretty good assessment off the top of your head
The bigger bones (radius and ulna) also have better blood supply, so there’s less risk of non-healing or avascular necrosis (think Bo Jackson’s hip from several years ago)
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 20, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Usually just means no surgery or reduction (putting it back in place) is necessary.
So, could translate to a quicker return
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 20, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
does the fracture have to be so damn big?
why couldnt you post a picture with a zoomed in area and a tiny little line instead of a giant jack-o-lantern smile
by rlgosnell on Jun 20, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That is an actual picture of Pujols' X-Ray, actually
OH THE HUGE MANATEE
by mojowo11 on Jun 20, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
very funny...
but sad too…
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......
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by jd is legend on Jun 20, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
I could have gone my whole life without seeing that
and it would have been a much happier life
Grit != flat out sucking.
What the hell?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 20, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
talk about announcing your presence with authority....
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sounds to me like a "rest and heal" situation
i.e. no structural damage and therefore no lingering effects. Here’s hoping anyway
I've been looking into this.
It says that the difference between a non-displaced injury and a normal distal injury is that there is no misalignment of the bones, which lessens the probability of having to repair it through surgery.
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Also,
Type I proximal radius fractures involve no displacement and minimal joint (articular) involvement and may be difficult to identify with diagnostic imaging. Type II fractures are those in which the bone fragments have separated by at least 2 mm (displaced); the fragments may be rotated or bent (angulated)
Type I and many Type II fractures are less severe and may heal well without surgical intervention…
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Could be good news (relatively, of course)
If the fracture parallels the end of the bone (which is the most common scenario, and shown in the pic above), there probably isn’t any significant ligament damage in the wrist. However if the fracture is more complex and part of the fracture line extends into the wrist joint, then there could be additional problems.
by olddomination on Jun 20, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
but it's right there in your anatomical snuff box
you can even palpate it!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
it's scaphoid.
IIRC it’s the most commonly broken bone in the human body. I did mine playing volleyball years ago and I’m not sure I ever quite got back to 100% wrist strength since, despite the fact I lift weights and stuff.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 20, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Definition of "non-displaced fracture"
From sportsmedicinedictionary.com:
non-displaced fracture
Definition
noun
a fractured bone in which the pieces of bone remain in alignment with each other
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Nondisplaced
Means the orthopod doesn’t need to realign (“set”) the bones before casting. Displaced fractures are the ones that often don’t heal in the expected time period because the fracture hasn’t closed (non-union)—in those cases, the cast often needs to come off to re-set the bones and try again in a cast.
Assuming it’s straight across the short axis of the bone and doesn’t go near the wrist joint, it should be a routine recovery (in the hands of most every other MLB medical staffs).
by olddomination on Jun 20, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ok, this has been covered pretty good so far
but, I’ll dive into it a little more. That the fracture is the radius is a good thing, as has already been stated. The radius does make up a part of the wrist, as the picture Paulspike posted shows. If Pujols’ fracture is like the one shown, that is a good thing because it just involves the bone and doesn’t get into the joint. If the fracture is further toward the hand, it could be just about as bad as the small carpal bones.
Non-displaced is a good thing too as this means that the bone fragments have remained in line and will not require surgical re-alignment. It’s just going to require time to heal. Albert is a fast healer, so I’m going to put him back closer to the four weeks than the six.
FWIW, typical radius fractures that happen at this location are common called Colles (Dinner fork) fractures or Smiths (Reverse dinner fork) fractures and typically occur from falling on an outstretched hand (FOOSH). These often require surgical re-alignment and can be tricky. I’ve seen several people who have been permanently maimed by orthopods putting them in poorly stabilized external fixators, but I digress.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Um
falling on an outstretched hand (FOOSH)
Even as someone who broke a tiny bone in my wrist by doing this…I’m still going to nominate this for Best Acronym Ever.
by mojowo11 on Jun 20, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But, but, but
wOBACON
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by Paulspike on Jun 20, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I have been known to randomly call out "FOOSH!" when I see someone FOOSH
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I love
how VEB has experts in everything.
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by Paulspike on Jun 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, you can milk one.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Jun 20, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
you can milk anything with breasts
right?
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 20, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I have.....frequently.
Wait…..I think I doth speaketh too much.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I have nipples, can you milk me Focker?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Jun 20, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
chicken breasts?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
scoot fixed it
it’s supposed to be “anything with nipples”. I saw “Meet the Fockers” last night and that made me think of it.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 20, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
and experts in nothing
like myself
and rui
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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Expert in superfluous "u's"?
We can bestow that honour upon you.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Rui was the Goodwill expert.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And stickers too.
And working for free.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah dude I got the internship thing on lockdown
Also, soccer statistics
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I can challenge you in that
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Soccer statistics?
You think so?
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Please.
My country breathes soccer. I’ve been watching and playing soccer since I was 4.
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Oh sure, I have little doubt you know soccer better than I do
But advanced soccer statistics? This is a new field and very few people actually have access to software programs that allow you create/view these statistics
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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do the programs do all the work for you?
otherwise surely you can do it all with a calculator
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
The programs give me the raw data
Who has how many dribbles, who completes passes to who, stuff like that
It’s up to me and the coaches to figure out what we want to do with the data
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The real question is whether or not your dad could beat up his dad.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
My dad held the Central American record
for swimming a certain distance I don’t remember for about a day.
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My dad has a PhD in Chemistry and could probably develop some sort of poison to kill your dad
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Unlikely
my Dad has a Magister Artrium in Opthalmology and a Master Baccalaureate. He could work his way around an antidote, while giving your dad permanent blindness
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by Paulspike on Jun 20, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Those are clearly just made up words
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by mysterui on Jun 20, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
*taps shin guard*
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by mysterui on Jun 20, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm going all Lui Kang (Johnny Cueto) on your ass
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rui, you ain't that special
other people understand mathematics too and have access to software
try not to sound like an arrogant douche
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Jun 20, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But that was his minor at USC!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 20, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Pretty much
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Mine was East Asian Languages and Cultures, thankyouverymuch!
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that's totally cheating. I didn't get to minor in cliched white people.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 20, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
fat cliched white people
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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thats part of the cliche, yes.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 20, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Muahahahahaha
But it was actually a pretty tough minor. I’ve always been fluent-ish in conversing in Chinese, but I took it to learn how to read/write Chinese. Which is hard as balls.
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there should be a course in reading manuals.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Chinglish manuals?
Yes, those are difficult to understand.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 20, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
what about courses in conversing in Engrish?
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by hr on Jun 20, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
That's called "Talking to my mom every day"
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Only people who work for teams have access to ProZone/Opta and stuff like that
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having access to the data doesn't make one an expert
you’ve only been doing that for 5 minutes
might wanna get back down to earth
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah5gAkna3jI?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
wtf is your problem
i never wanted to do anything with soccer
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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then why all the hostility
toward the fact that he’s doing something similar to what he’s been wanting to do
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
She's always hostile
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by mysterui on Jun 20, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
because he's being rude to Paulspike
without knowing his background, ability or knowledge
it’s uncalled for
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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well, if the info is proprietary, he's probably right
if i worked for an MLB front office for 2 weeks analyzing hit and field f/x data, i’d probably know more about it than anyone here even though i’m still fresh, just because no one else has seen it
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
no one else that you know of...
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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i know who has seen it
that’s what i mean when i say it’s proprietary information. it’s only made available to MLB teams. i’m willing to risk the occurrence of a conspiracy to leak the data or someone hacking into the databases
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
prozone is hiring software developers, by the by.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
i don't see anything on the website after a quick glance
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
If this is you, please email your CV to careers@prozonesports.com
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
only US office is in chicago
no good right now. i wonder if my SABR nerdery could be passed off as experience in sports information services, though. i bet i know more than a fair share of people working in MLB front offices
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
heh, CV
no thanks, just shoot me in the face. When we talked about those things in school I always thought I’d be fine with just a resume. Then I wanted to work for the government. Tedious as hell trying to remember what I’ve done for the last 10 years.
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I honestly don't know the difference
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length and detail primarily
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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I can agree on d-dee with this.
I could learn this quite quickly. Understanding soccer’s strategy and management takes more time
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Ok, I'll give you that.
I’ll be the expert on soccer strategy and scouting, and you’ll be the expert on advanced statistics. By the way, could you provide me with information/links on that? You see, I co-direct a group of sports statistical analysis in my university and we have a lot of interest from soccer fans. However, their studies have collapsed because they have no access to statistics like I have for baseball with Fangraphs and Lefkowitz.
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That's the issue, there's nothing publicly available
Only recently has the community come out with a “Pythagorean” type deal for goals scored/allowed.
I’d dig around on http://www.socceranalysts.com. All of the good stuff is linked there
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How about a downloadable database
for the raw statistics you talk about. Stuff like passes, shots on goal, possession, distance ran, salaries. We are trying to build a database so that we can run an econometric regression on the data
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Uhhhh I can't imagine I could do that without getting fired
If this is for research for your school, I’m sure you could get them to pay for access. It’s very comprehensive
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What would they fire you from?
Providing free labor?
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So I can pay for access for this database on
Prozone? The thing is that we looked all semester for such database and we couldn’t find it anywhere.
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Yeah, there's a TREND analysis that you can do for entire teams or leagues
Which I would assume would be useful for running regression analysis. I haven’t had a chance to do that yet, as I’m tied up doing scouting reports, but that’s my plan for the offseason
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Alright, thanks rui
I’ll probably bother you more with this in the future. You see, in my entire university there are only two baseball fans. My director and me. We have been the only ones actually working on a paper because we have baseball information. The rest of the group is stuck. They all have very interesting ideas but no numerical information to actually test it. If I can get the database, I can get them working on something we can publish.
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What kind of stuff are you interested in?
The one thing I really want to work on is league equivalences. Clearly the EPL is a superior league to the MLS, but where does that bear out in the stats? They have a different style of play, which might change the shots on goal/shots on target stats, but where can you see that there’s a specific difference in talent?
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I guess general statistics
By team, by player. We are working on a boatload of hypotheses that range from player value to strategical differences between clubs. For example, does the number of passes a team makes in a game increase their chance of winning? By how much? Does the distance between stadiums affect a visiting team? Is a goalkeeper better than another one because he receives less goals? I guess I would like a database with the raw statistics. I guess I would need the Fangraphs equivalent for soccer.
For your question, I would look on the efficiency of stuff like passing and shooting. As in the percentage of passes completed and shots on goal. Also, the “pitch f/x” if you will of a soccer shot as in its velocity and spin. Players at higher leagues can get much more power and effect behind their shots. I would look at stamina too, the distance they run.
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I think some of the stuff you're interested has been studied over at Soccer Analysts
Passes – Don’t think it has much effect on winning. Probably more indicative of a conservative approach to your offense. You’d have to know where those passes occur (into attacking third? into penalty area?) and pass distance to glean much value
Goalkeepers – Depends mostly on defense. The holy grail here is developing an “Expected goals” statistic, based on shot distance, how many defender between the ball and the goal, and angle, and then how the goalkeeper performs against that.
all4tookie and I were discussing it, and he thinks that “unforced errors” are a good stat for comparing leagues. Obviously in tennis, that stat is just unforced errors. Percentage of passes completed might just be a function of the style of play that particular league houses, not necessarily a difference in talent. What is an “unforced error” in soccer?
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The only one I can think of
besides completely missing an interception is a direct pass to an opponent. However, I don’t believe that that is the biggest difference between talent. To me, it’s about technique. The ability to dribble the ball, find a pass through the lines, make an accurate shot outside the box, heading technique. I think unforced errors would be much more frequent in sub-21 and sub-17 leagues, of course. However, I wouldn’t see it as a pattern in lower leagues. And this, I say, after watching my national team, that sucks, play over hundreds of games.
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Thanks for the soccer analysts link
A whole lot of fascinating stuff to distract me from the Pujols saga. A lot of this stuff reads like a foreign language to me, but that Wigan article from yesterday reflects what I would predict based on watching the games. Is there a whole world of advanced soccer stats out there like there is for baseball?
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jun 20, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope. Almost nothing.
What soccer needs is for a group of dedicated fans to pony up the money for ProZone and then present their findings publicly
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Well that's a shame.
Would a “soccer fangraphs” actually reveal all too much about a player’s worth on a team? I assume it would be hard to properly weigh individual moments of brilliance that lead to chance creation against consistent distribution, a lack of mistakes, and a lack of brilliance. Of course I could be completely wrong about that because I have no idea what I’m talking about.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jun 20, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be difficult, but I think a "Goals Probability Added" would be possible
Check this out, I think it’s really interesting
It’s a great start, at least
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Very, very cool.
I wonder if someone out there could combine this with a stat for success rate of taking opponents on and a pass through traffic stat. Also you would have to deal with how much of the pass is credited to the movement of the person receiving the ball too, but like you said it is a great start.
PS: scoot can shove it. Thanks for this
PPS: not really sorry scoot
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jun 20, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I had to Ctrl F for that?!?!
I don’t mind the soccer talk, I just z through it. Never understood why people couldn’t just z through discussions they didn’t want to be apart of.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
The z concept you speak of is foreign to some.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that Beyond the Boxscore
might have had some of the stuff you guys are talking about back during the World Cup…
He would deeply appreciate your help
and would be glad to arrange appropriate payment as you see fit. If you could simply respond in a timely manner with your full name and address, we could get the payment process started.
GET OVER HERE
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I hope this evolves into a Mortal Kombat fight
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Jun 20, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you take hellacious pics though.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of which, does anyone know why k-mac and k-lo's starts were switched around?
i was so hoping to get halladay and lohse tomorrow
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TLR'd
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I've already stated previously
TLR will move Holliday to 2B, so K-lo playing first doesn’t seem so odd.
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i will find you if this doesn't happen
that’ll teach you to get my hopes up
also, everyone pray for high socks
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Everyone needs to wear Red's pants
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
at the same time?
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Extreme Group Bonding
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It's an after midnight rule, like cat pictures.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I'm still saying this should be termed a "forearm" fracture
When I think wrist, I think carpal. An when I think carpal fracture, I think AHHHHHHHHHH
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
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57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think that is how it is classified in the Rains article
I’d only call it a wrist fracture if it extended into the joint
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Agreed
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This makes me hopeful
My 8 year old daughter just had this in the spring. Granted she’s 8 and they heal quickly. She wore a cast for 3 and a half weeks and was good to go.
Not sure how much of her tee ball power was sapped the process though.
I had a similar fracture when I was six or seven
I played with the cast on. Maybe Albert will choose to do the same?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
you want pictures of other badass sports men who played with a broken wrist?
I’m only too happy to oblige
Don’t recognise him? Well its this guy
totes babes
less impressed by men playing a spot with a broken wrist
when it is illegal to use their hands in said sport
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Jun 20, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You do use your hands in soccer
It is illegal to touch the ball with your hands, but you use them to gain position by displacing defenders. Also, in a contact sport where you fall down a lot, having a broken wrist is badass to my standards
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Oh yeah these jokes never get old
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Worst human ever
Outside Joey barton
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57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 2:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
why?
granted, i’m a neutral, but always thought viera seemed an OK guy. Barton is a miserable human being (think Cantona is probably a bit of a douche, but an entertaining one so that’s OK by me).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 20, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
mostly because i'm a united fan
but viera always pissed me off with his awful disciplinary record and being the face of the last good arsenal team
totes babes
Guys, guys... no need to fight.
They’re both terrible human beings.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I mean, look at what huge sellouts they are
They both have gigantic corporate sponsorships front-and-center on their jerseys.
Wait, all soccer teams do that?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Yeah, no American team would ever do that.
Now pass me a Budweiser, the official beer of major league baseball, and some cool ranch Doritos as we get ready to watch the Green Bay Meat Packing Industry play a football game in Gillette Stadium on our Verizon I-Phones.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
You forgot something
First we need to pause and sing the Offiical American Airlines National Anthem.
(I’m glad you quickly picked up what I was laying down)
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
I'm partial to Van Bommel
But Sergio Busquets has made a strong claim for being the most hate-able figure in soccer this year.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jun 20, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha
I was just trolling for a reaction. Cantona isn’t even the worst red devil ever (Scholes)
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57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 6:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Was there a significant dip in her ISO?
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Of course not
She already hit like Schumaker, that is, little dribblers to 2nd. I used to wonder how a RH hitter could be consistently late on the swing in tee ball.
you rushed her back
should’ve given her a rehab assignment
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
as long as she got them past the pitcher
she had a chance. I’ve coached softball before but I don’t think I could take the 4-6 y/o league that my grandson’s played in the last two years. If a team has an older kid that moves fast, put them at pitcher and the other team doesn’t stand a chance.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 20, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
the fishes play today
we could go over while the game is on to try to forget our troubles
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2011: Boog would've count 56
They hate us
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no, they hate just you
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2011: Boog would've count 56
nah, just their mod
i think we should give them time to think about what they’ve done whilst they wallow in 100 post game threads
totes babes
wait, what happened?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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thier mod (craig)
left a bitchy message in the gamethread saying that we weren’t welcome
totes babes
yeah, i just found it
that’s mean
shame, i thought they had fun with us. boo… i has a sad now
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ask again later
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which thread is it in?
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
towards the end of
this post
/boohoo
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http://www.fishstripes.com/2011/6/6/2209942/open-thread-and-ichthyomancy-brewers-at-marlins-6-6
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/6/6/2210043/brewers-at-marlins-roger-dean-project-v2-0
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/6/7/2210986/into-the-future-of-the-roger-dean-project-since-weve-somehow-worn-out
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take "Posts from late-April, Alex"
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looks even more genius all the time
please, no more bullpen poetry
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Why can I not see Pete Kozma on a gibbet from my house yet?
I can’t believe I got out of bed only to find this news. Goddammit Bernice!
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
It's almost gone actually
far better than it was when I woke up this morning. I took the day off work and just stayed in a dark room all morning long. Bernice may be moving out by tomorrow. If not, I’m scheduling an appointment.
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i'm lost as to what you guys are talking about
but i hope you feel better soon
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i don't want to have more to do with your people than i already do
don’t want anyone calling DHS on me to tell them i am not ready for the test
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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Unfortunately, this has all been one elaborate ruse
to find out that you are not, in fact, AMERICAN. You will therefore be deported shortly.
totes babes
but but but... i have a green card
should i be worried that it’s not green?
did they give me a fake one?
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2011: Boog would've count 56
i sprained my wrist/had a hairline fracture as a soph. in HS
it was 4-6 weeks for me when it came to swinging a golf club
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
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And you aren't even healed by the rays of Earth's yellow sun.
This is heartening.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 20, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not at all.
It was a way of dropping in a Superman reference when discussing Pujols.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
To lighten the mood
I present you with a cat double-agent. He barks until he is caught, then resumes meowing.
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
I think the most annoying part of all of these injuries
Is that most of them have happened to guys who were being surprisingly productive.
- Pujols was finally hitting his stride
- Holliday was mashing the ball like a BAMF when he was hurt
- Freese sports a .382 wOBA
- Craig has a .415 wOBA and was just starting to really get the 2B job
- Punto was getting on base at a surprising .355 clip
Like, we can handle losing Skip Schumaker, but all these other guys were key parts of the team. Hell it’s hard to believe this team is still clinging to the top of the division. It’s pretty impressive how much depth of talent the Cardinals have had this season, and it’s a good thing, too — it’s the only reason we’re still afloat.
don't forget laird who was actually providing regular rest for yadi
and was being surprisingly efficient at it
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Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaairrrrrrrrddddddd
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i have to think Craig is going to get significant time at 2B
to keep his bat in the lineup and offset the loss of offense
exactly
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Breaking News:
Cards mascot Fredbird sleeps with head gob’s wife. Gob retaliate, 2011 season ruined.
by beer me on Jun 20, 2011 1:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
F'n Fredbird
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I always knew he couldn’t keep it in his feathers
by beer me on Jun 20, 2011 1:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Nah
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time to crack open each other's skulls and feast on the goo inside
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 20, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i prefer cucumber sandwiches, juice, grapes and string cheese myself
but you know, eat whatever you want
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2011: Boog would've count 56
Do we have to peel the string cheese or can I just bite off chunks?
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
my wife gets mad at me when I just bite it
It’s my string cheese. I’ll eat it how I want.
Grit != flat out sucking.
speaking of zombie apocalypse
mrs. scoot got me an xbox 360 and Left 4 Dead for our anniversary/fathers day
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what did you get her?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
a cabin in gatlinburg/pigeon forge
with all the amenities and some $300 worth of shopping for maternity clothes and other things
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i thought you maybe didn't get her anything and she went all godzilla on your hat
The Hat
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2011: Boog would've count 56
Whats the name of the place?
My wife and I spent a week in gatlinburg and our anniversary is coming up in November.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Was it mid-July?
Just hit town and your throat was dry?
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That game is freaking scary.
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Could be much, much, much worse
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Hmmm....
The St. Louis Cardinals sign Pedro Feliz to play 1B while Albert Pujols is out with a broken wrist.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Jun 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you should be slapped
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2011: Boog would've count 56
just slapped?
I say banned until Albert’s back in the lineup
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 20, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No
We still have an above average offensive team without Pujols. What we really couldn’t (and still can’t) afford are any more injuries to the pitching staff, which is basically out of good options at this time. I’m not going to mention any scenarios at this time so as not to jinx anything, but I’m sure you can come up with some far more catastrophic injuries to members of our ballclub.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Jun 20, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Je ne parle pas français
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2011: Boog would've count 56
Does Vancouver?
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Both especially if the women are attractive
by beer me on Jun 20, 2011 3:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"why don't we do it in the road?"
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Five Guys > The Beatles > Chocolate Chip
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Fun Fact
there is a Five Guys in Pigeon Forge. I have never eaten at Five Guys. We were supposed to eat at Five Guys for lunch on Saturday. Instead, we drove to Gatlinburg, walked around and ended up eating at some little craphole that serves pre-made burgers and hot dogs and mini tacos and the like. Some worthless SOB had a screaming, cussing fit at his wife and swore off family vacations because she couldn’t control the kids and order his food at the same time and instead of ordering his food she chose to tend to the kids. I really wanted to eat at Five Guys and/or punch that jerk in the face.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I would have punched the guy in the face
and then eaten at Five Guys for my victory meal.
I don’t know why my wife doesn’t like going anywhere with me.
by WizardofOz1982 on Jun 20, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty much my thoughts.
except for why you wife doesn’t like going anywhere with you, I got nothing on that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
official word
Results from today’s MRI and CT-scan of All-Star first baseman Albert Pujols showed a non-displaced fracture of his left radius (forearm). Pujols was placed in a splint and will likely be sidelined from 4 to 6 weeks.
Pujols’ left shoulder was sore, but no structural damage was determined at this time.
The Cardinals will announce a roster move prior to tomorrow night’s series opener with the Philadelphia Phillies. Pujols has only been on the disabled list twice previously: June, 2006 for a left oblique strain and June, 2008 for a left calf strain.
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2011: Boog would've count 56
Yay for a nondisplaced fracture
Boo for the torn labrum in his shoulder they failed to notice.
by WizardofOz1982 on Jun 20, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
flagged
because it could be true
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
My first flag
Thanks Scoot. Sadly I know it could be true.
by WizardofOz1982 on Jun 20, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't really think you did.
First verbal flag then :)
by WizardofOz1982 on Jun 20, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
See MLBTR gets it
[Theriot’s] probably better-suited defensively for second base.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
The letters "T," "L," and "R" may all be in that acronym
unfortunately, they’re in the wrong order to mean anything.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
TLR's a bowel movement?
sounds about right
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let's keep tweeting this article
please, no more bullpen poetry
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, now that Albert won't be playing baseball for the next few weeks..
..maybe it’s time to take a look at that contract extension?
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
by cschepers on Jun 20, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Big Rec!!
can we get this green?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
and his asking price has to be significantly lower
DO IT MOZEY
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by hr on Jun 20, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
please, no more bullpen poetry
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
mlbtr informs me that Passan thought this was a great idea
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I made the mistake of reading that
if anyone was tempted, skip it. He actually cites contract numbers for a “framework for a potential deal that would behoove both sides” provided to him by an unnamed “agent not involved in the negotiations”. The rest of it is equally stupid, with the same speculation-to-information ratio.
“Asshat” doesn’t do it justice.
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
Sounds like Passan is using Strauss as a source
Think of it, the powers of Strauss and Passan combined…
Still not a werewolf.
true story
Jeff Passan and Joe Strauss cannot be in the same building together, because the roof and walls would give way from all the SUCKING
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
I know Albert Pujols is injured, but that's no reason to be vulgar
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
so there still might be ligament damage that we don't know about?
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
I believe the MRI has already been done
If there was anything else found they didn’t mention it. Keep in mind this is the Cardinals medical staff we are dealing with.
look a couple post above you
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2011: Boog would've count 56
additionally
he might’ve caught an STI off Betemit in that collision as well.
There are a lot of potential complications we can’t predict right now.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 20, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No, Rains' article indicated the MRI results were in
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My prediction of the next 4-6 weeks...
Mark Hamilton gets called up and plays sparingly for 10 days. He is then demoted as Hitting Coach Mark McGwire has taken more and more cuts in the cage and BP. McGwire comes out of retirement to man 1B because TLR has begged him to be the savior of this team. After 4 weeks of .185/.246 with 2 HR and 2 RBI, Pujols returns and hits .355/.480/1.044 for the remainder of the season.
and of course jimmy ballgame unretires and lights the world on fire for us
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
he plays center after we deal that malcontent rasmus for heath bell.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Can they go ahead and also take out his appendix while he's on the DL?
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preventive medicine ftw
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
Well this kind of sucks
I think things will be ok though. Well, as long as everyone else stays healthy and those currently injured come back. I guess the thing that’s wild about Pujols is he feels like the sun. He’s always there, providing something of immense value. And now suddenly we must see if Planet Cardinals can survive without its sun. I swear, I did not huff paint before typing this.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 20, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
Don't lie
. . . and share.
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 20, 2011 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So Jack McKeon eh?
How do we think he’ll do?
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions
He'll get lost on the way to the stadium
And his left blinker will be on the whole way
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by jd is legend on Jun 20, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
of course, this being the marlins
nobody will be at the game to notice.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Well he's going to make the team eat an early dinner, that's for sure
And he’s going to come up with gameplans based on the Matlock episode that day
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jun 20, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They're hoping for more 2003 magic, of course.
Just changing for change sake might be enough to get the team rolling again. Who knows.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
FUUUUUUCK
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by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you of all people should have seen this coming
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
kinda did
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/6/19/2231983/game-73-kcr-v-stl-6-19-11#70010355
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/6/19/2232330/i-dont-mean-to-start-any-blasphemous-rumors#70035267
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Most out of position player in a future TLR lineup?
With the recent injuries, I’m sure we’ll see something crazy from TLR coming soon, so I want your predictions for what you think is the most plausible and out-of-position lineup spot TLR will implement.
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously, was last night the most unexpected walkoff ever?
Skip against a good LHP?
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Aaron Miles
also, not a walk-off, but Stavinoa
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
craziness
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
hahaha
I’ve watched that several times but never noticed Albert running along Miles while he rounded third.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 20, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Franklin with a nice snag in the bullpen.
I like the little step Miles does after he hits it. I can’t tell if he is showboating or keeping himself from tipping over.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Step?
I thought he was standing there admiring like he knew it was gone. Nolan Ryan would have knocked him down the next time he came to bat.
by WizardofOz1982 on Jun 20, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
lol he bat flipped.
fang: on the right track since 2011
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I was at the game
And in botching about Descalso’s gaffe on the bases I noticed Franklin warming with Skip facing a lefty and Jay on deck and just finished saying " great! Now we get to see Franklin!" when he hit it
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 20, 2011 8:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
trever miller, catcher
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
Close!
Actually it will be Jason Motte alternating with Trever so we always have the righty-righty, lefty-lefty matchup.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 20, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if Pujols had no broken bones
I still assumed he would be out for around a month anyway. I don’t have any experience with the wrist/forearm area, but I broke an ankle playing softball and the next year sprained the other ankle. It wasn’t a horrible sprain, but it seemed to keep nagging me more than after the broken one healed.
i would rather leave berkman in the outfield
and leave 1B open to see what someone like hamilton or craig when he comes back can do with regular playing time.
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that's what I'm thinking...
minus Hamilton.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
But Craig is still a couple week off
correct? So, in the meantime, I’d expect to see Puma there most days with Jay in RF.
Once Freese and Punto are back (next week, hopefully), there’ll be more variety with Brown and, maybe, Hamilton playing there.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 20, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
wth? i guess that could make some kind of sense with hamilton, but allen craig is leaps and bounds ahead of berkman
in RF. why would you play the better defender at first and the worse one in the OF?
you get the same number of at bats regardless of where you play.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Lance said awhile back that 1B bothers his legs more than RF.
But the Cardinals are in a totally different situation now.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If I had to guess
That was probably said because he assumed that was where he was going to be put at the time, and it was a nice and effective way to answer the “How are you going to hold up in the OF” question he was getting daily.
by Merry CRasmus on Jun 20, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It was in an interview after he made the start at 1B w/Pujols at 3B.
IIRC.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 20, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
In that case
I’m not sure then. Would seem a bit counterintuitive. We are going to get a few DH games coming up too, so maybe that will give him a bit of a break.
by Merry CRasmus on Jun 20, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i corrected myself on that point
mainly i’m just saying that we should leave berkman in the outfield if it allows us to get positionless bats into the lineup
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Craig is probably better in the OF then Berkman
Put Berk at 1B, save his knees so he can play more, and let Jay/Craig/Brown and whomever else get RF at bats.
While this injury really sucks,
I think the roster machinations are really interesting for a number of reasons:
- We’re going to get a really good look at what our club would be like without Albert Pujols for an extended period of time for the first time in a decade. I know it’s not something that any of us wants to really imagine as a scenario, but a team with Holliday, Rasmus, Garcia, Wainwright, and said FA XXX (in ’11 being played by Lance Berkman) is not a 70 win club either.
- I guess we now get to see what OUR club thinks about Mark Hamilton. If they think he’s Ryan Klesko-lite and have been holding onto him for this reason, now is the time he should be in the everyday lineup to prove it. If they think he’s a AAAA hitter, as myself and a few others seem to believe, then Berkman goes to 1B full time for 4-6 weeks and Jay gets all the starts in RF.*
- The biggest issue to me over the last week was not the Pujols injury, it was the sudden vulnerability of the previously invulnerable guys in the bullpen. Sanchez = hurt. Salas = Suddenly hittable. Motte = inconsistent Boggs = Who knows? Batista/Franklin/Miller/Tallet = The Four Horsemen of Suckitude. There’s nobody left at AAA to help — NOBODY. At AA? Not really, unless we’re calling up Shelby Miller to start and move K-Mac back to the bullpen**
- Is it just weird, or do I kinda, sorta feel better about not having the guy with the wrist injury under contract for the next 8 years right now? Name a long term contract that the Cardinals have given out in the DeWitt era that haven’t involved a debilitating injury resulting in a significant amount of missed time? Rolen, Carpenter, Wainwright, Edmonds, now Pujols. Even Matt Morris missed some starts and had TJ. Not to be hyperbolic, but this is why you don’t give out 8 year contracts. They end up being incredibly detrimental after one freak play at 1B.
*I’d put hard money on the latter rather than the former. I don’t think anyone really believes in Mark Hamilton all the much.
**AKA: The Worst Idea On the History of the Planet unless you really believe in TINSTAAPP.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I dunno
A half season of being good (and as a starter no less) and he’s ready for a big league bullpen? I dunno about that. If we’re throwing bait out there, I’d rather have Joe Kelly, who pitched out of the pen in college, was good, and has been effective as a starter in the low minors since being drafted.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
isn't that exact same logic you used to conclude shelby should be in MLB right now?
or maybe that was someone else
i think cleto, sitting 98 with his fastball is not the worst reliever in the bullpen
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Cleto is a one pitch guy right now
Shelby Miller has 2 plus pitches and possibly even a third (his change up), has been starting in the minors for just about 2 seasons, and has excellent command of all his offerings.
You’re not seriously comparing Miller and Cleto are you? Might as well compare apples and firetrucks too.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
what i'm seriously comparing
is miller’s readiness to be a big league starter and cleto’s readiness to be a big league reliever. you know who else is a 1-pitch guy? jason motte. he’s been pretty successful. if cleto is a poor man’s jason motte, he’s well better than franklin or batista
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Motte isn't a good comparison either.
He threw 165 above average innings in the minors before making the roster in ‘09. He was striking out 12 hitters per 9, walking only 3 hitters per 9, for a K/BB of just under 4.00. That’s an MLB ready reliever.
Cleto was a pretty awful pitcher for the 300 innings prior to this season, as both a starter and as a reliever. He doesn’t miss many bats with his 99 mph heater (only 7.1 K/9 coming into this season) and his control has been suspect, leaving a lot of hittable pitches in the middle of the plate which result in a lot of hits (over 1 per inning in the minors).
So, no, he’s not ready for major league service, and certainly not ready for the bullpen and high leverage situations. Jess Todd would be better, signing a FAT starter and moving K-Mac back to the pen would probably be better too.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
i guess we'll see if he's given the chance to pitch
i would expect similar production out of him and todd, though
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I guess it depends on your definition of "serviceable"
I’d rather have Cleto than Batista right now, although I do agree Cleto needs a bit more time in the minors.
Serviceable
My definition would be: Better than FAT in the free agent market. And I don’t think that Cleto is better than some relievers that could be had for next to nothing.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
not being facetious
but which relievers? You could call TINSTAAPP on it. Motte threw hard and all over the place when we brought him up. basically the same as Cleto. If the rule is that there are only so many pitches in his arm, let him do it and let Batista go.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Motte didn't throw "all over the place"
In fact, he mostly just geared up and threw a 4 seamer for strikes in the minors, and struck out a TON of hitters doing it. He had very good command for a reliever in the minors prior to his call up.
Elmer Dessens and Ron Mahay both come to mind as better options than Cleto right now.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
fair enough
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
isn't mahay the one that broke lohse?
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by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
fuck that dude
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by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Betemit was trying to break Pujols' arm
just about as much as Mahay was trying to…..whatever happened to Lohse’s arm. But yes, fuck Mahay.
….actually, this leads me to two (2) inescapable conclusions: 1) blaming Betemit is more satisfying & cathartic than going aw shucks it’s nobody’s fault and 2) perhaps when we play the Royals next time we should make sure all both arms of all important personnel are properly bubble-wrapped….
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
i don't really blame anyone
i’ve been really busy today, though, so i’m not sure that the gravity of the situation has set in. it may not happen until we’ve sucked for a while without pujols. of course, we kicked hell of ass without him for most of the season already
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by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
also on a positive note re: pujols, wrist injuries
by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
this is definitely positive
I’m still holding my breath about his shoulder though….
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
if there's really no structural damage
he should have plenty of time to rest it
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by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
They said there's no apparent structural damage
I’m hoping that the six weeks will be enough to heal whatever’s irking him
Still not a werewolf.
labral tears aren't always obvious on MRI
gold standard for labral tears is an Arthrogram. Plus with the wrist injury it would be a little difficult to perform a thorough physical exam. Not impossible, but one would have to be careful with some of the tests because you wouldn’t want to mess up the alignment of that fracture.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm sure that (most of) the team doctors are competent and capable,
but you always make me want you to be in charge of the rehab
Still not a werewolf.
that's flattering, but trust me
the people that are there are there for a reason. They’re really good at what they do. They have to be because if they weren’t there are literally hundreds of people willing to take their place.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
isn't that true of many
professions? And yet, asshats of every ilk continue to inhabit each and every profession in impressive numbers.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I don't seriously blame Betemit either
any more than I blame Kozma. Mahay, however….
Not to dwell on the obvious, but we will miss Pujols, even if his offensive numbers from Apr-May weren’t superhuman.
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
it's just sad
please, no more bullpen poetry
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
mo', will you please panic and TRADE FOR JOSE REYES
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by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't mind Jose Reyes
Legit leadoff and SS? Count me in, though we’ll never have enough to get him. Of course the same was said about Holliday and DeRosa and we ended up getting both of them for almost the whole year.
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Bonds!
Make him play SS
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
we should be able to land him
and if we have him around, he could be a legit plan B in the event that pujols comes down with derrek lee syndrome
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Oh, we have enough to get him
We have 2 of the top pitching prospects in baseball right now. The question is whether we want to give up either of those guys to get Jose Reyes.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
what i mean is i think we can land him without giving up either of them
however, i haven’t reevaluated my opinion on that since he continued to be an MVP candidate through 2.5 months
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i still think a package of very good prospects could land him
something like rosenthal/jenkins, jackson/kozma, jay/craig should do it.
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from the looks of his defense so far
he’s not much different player from jackson
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and really
my point is pick any three or four players not include MLB regulars or shelby/carlos
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I think they'd listen to a Rosenthal/Craig/X proposal.
But I don’t think a utility IF would work for X, and I honestly don’t know who would.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
carp? freese? descalso? castellanos? adams? that outfielder at QC?
i don’t really care as long as it’s not miller/martinez
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oscar taveras is who i was thinking of
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Pretty sure Kozma is worse offensively than Ryan Jackson
By a huge margin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 20, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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you are willing to give up jay AND craig
pfff
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
This reminds me
I’ve assumed that the backslash (or is that a forward slash?I don’t know) is usually meant to imply “or”
Is this really so? I know there are many grammar pros around here
Still not a werewolf.
it's a (forward) slash and that's what i was going for
comma = and; slash = or
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It would cost us no less than Cox, Rosenthal, Jay
and, considering that Wong is expected to be in the fold before the end of the year, I’m not sure that I wouldn’t do that deal.
I’m guessing that the Mets don’t go for any less than a deal with Martinez or Miller at the top of it though.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
i would push hard for a negotiating window, though
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I think I could be ok with moving Martinez in a deal like that
I think he’s a good 3 years away from the majors, we have a team that’s built to win right now, and we have some other very good pitchers in the minors. I think Miller could be contributing by next June, and I think he’s the better pitcher as well, so I wouldn’t deal him.
But if I could deal Martinez, B Prospect, and Jay for Reyes and a bullpen arm, I probably do that.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
"done" was in response to your subject line
i have a lot of (potentially irrational) love for martinez. i’m not even necessarily convinced that miller is the better prospect, just closer. either of those two are deal breakers. pretty much no one else except big leaguers like rasmus/garcia
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At this point, I think Miller is the more polished pitcher
In terms of build, I also like Miller better — he’s bigger and more able to grow into his frame and has better, more repeatable mechanics.
Martinez is exciting, no doubt about it, and he has great stuff and potential to merit it. I’d rather not give up either of them. But if I can get a 5 WAR major league SS shy of his 30th birthday for one of them, I’d strongly think about including Martinez instead of Miller for the factors listed above.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I would do that deal.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
So would I
But Wilpon and Co. would have to be desperate to take that. I’m reasonably sure that the Red Sox would best that deal in a heartbeat with the talent they have in the minors.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
fuck that noise.
As much as I might like the idea of Reyes being here, the cost is going to be a bitch and with no guarantee of re-sign…no thanks. I hate rentals.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying I would
I’m simply saying that for the first time in the last decade or so, we actually have a stable of players in our minor league system that another team would deal a superstar to get.
And, no, it would not be a rental, it would be acquiring him for the stretch run full well intending to offer him a 4-5 year extension after the season for around $70M or so.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
True on the stable. It's a nice thought to have.
But until I see ink on a contract, the guy’s a rental. Especially so, with the Pujols not signed yet.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
But
I can fully see your point. If there was another year on his contract, I’d be much more for the idea.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If there was another year on his deal
The price would be more than I’d be willing to pay, and the Mets probably wouldn’t have him on the block either.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
true. that is always the other side of the coin.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he set to bey a type-a free agent?
That would lessen the pain of the trade.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I can't see how he wouldn't be.
That’s always the consideration I forget about.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
also, i don't think there is a guarantee of getting the compensation picks, is there?
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
Tavares, Rosenthal, and Swagerty?
and then if he leaves via free agency we get two new #1 picks
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
ot: you guys saw the moneyball trailer yet?
if not, here
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2011: Boog would've count 56
I hear that Jonah Hill was actually a ghost the whole time
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Cool
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Jun 20, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard this first on the radio, and here was my reaction:
46 weeks? BWAAAAH – that’s almost an entire year!!!
they playoff's won't be THAT extended
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
You're probably the first around here who was relieved to hear the real prognosis
Still not a werewolf.
Everything will be just fine people!
I’ll just add a few moore slices of bacon to all of my meals, and everythingl will be ok!
:=8)
Griebenschmaltz!
hmmm....
I’ve heard of steak on a black eye. I wonder if a bacon wrap can help a wrist?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't know about a wrist
but apparently it can cure warts. Is there anything bacon can’t do?
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 20, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
More Kevin Bacon improves every situation.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
for you
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Panic Trade
Carlos Beltran? Healthy, can play right, slide Berk to 1st. Waddya think?
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
I'd love for Carlos Beltran to be a Cardinal.
But whom would we trade?
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
our dignity
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
by d-dee on Jun 20, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we just lost ALBERT PUJOLS
fuck that
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"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jun 20, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Beltran can't have much trade value, can he?
They still owe him around $10.5M. How many teams can take on that kind of salary this time of year?
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
we already settled this.
it’s jose reyes (pardon the no-caps)
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
so, rui
are you basically going to get hired on as a full-time stats analyst for this team now?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
That's the hope
The coaches indicate that they like what I’m doing, so I would imagine that they’d like to have me around full-time
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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that's cool, congrats
even if it a soccer team in kansas city. were you in any way familiar with soccer before you started this gig?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Yeah, I've been a fan since I was little. Played up until 9th grade
Not a very good or attentive fan, but I’ve always loved the sport. Now that I get to watch it all the time, my appreciation’s grown even more, I think
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I know I don't frequent VEB too much (ok, fine, very little at all)
but how did I miss this? You are working for Sporting Kansas City?
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
1) LOY
2) Yes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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EVERYBODY STOP
the new limp bizkit album has leaked
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I used to call them wet noodle just to piss my 13 year old nephew off.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
that should tide us over
until the next nickelback album drops.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
gold cobra yo!
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
so, maybe Albert dived on his promise to bobo about the Comeback Player of the Year thing
because I don’t think this scenario could be set up any better for that to happen
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"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
First he ruined my sig
Now my fanpost. Next he’s probably going to say he got injured because he was thinking about how much he hates my user name and got distracted. And then I’ll have to change it.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
He's been busy trying to figure out what you are.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I'm depending on you being right!
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
All in all
This is better not as bad as I would have initially guessed yesterday. Hopefully, this means he’ll be back around the end of July. Just in time for a torrid last two months to push us over the top, maybe?
In the meantime, my guess is Puma at first on most nights. It makes too much sense to not put him there unless it really does wear on him more than RF (can’t figure that one out myself). Freese and Punto coming back next week will give Tony more options. DD could see some starts at first as could Brown, that is, unless they decide to recall Hamilton and just see what we’ve got there. Once Craig is back, he might be the primary 1B if Berkman doesn’t want/can’t do it.
Since today is soccer day here at VEB, apropos.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Is Joey Barton going to kill Aurelien Collin?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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with all the soccer crap I've z'd through since Rui got his new enslavement
I don’t want to hear a bunch of whining when the conversation turns to football this offseason. If I can z through soccer during the season, people can z through football during the offseason.
/endrant
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Jun 20, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree we should ban rui.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 20, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
Yep
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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GOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Jun 20, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm going to complain about you talking about talking about football
come on man. this is a blog for talking about talking about baseball
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
It's my right as an American to complain about anything I feel like complaining about
and right now I’m complaining about your complaining.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
the first amendment: your right to let everybody in the world know just how dumb you are.
since 1791.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jun 20, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and being british i feel obliged to not complain about anything
and then writing an angry letter to the editor
totes babes
by Aranathor on Jun 20, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
"keep calm and carry on going down to the pub and pissing away the dole check."
did i do it right?
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
gd. "cheque."
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
needs a 'bugger' in there somewhere
and the ‘to’ between the ‘down’ and ‘the’ is entirely superfluous.
totes babes
"keep calm and carry on down a pub piss dole check yer li'l bugger anyways, innit?"
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
"keep calm and carry on goin' darn' pub t' piss aweh yer dole cheque ya little bugger"
“oh an’ tha’ margret bloody thatcher can stick ‘er dole where sun don’ shine, i’ll tell ye that fer nowt”
totes babes
FUCKING THIS.
fang: on the right track since 2011
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Things fang isn't doing for $600, Alex
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jun 20, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
i knew that was going to be the first reply the second i posted that comment.
fang: on the right track since 2011
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i like football. a lot. the rams should be pretty okay this year.
fang: on the right track since 2011
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Rules of american football first codified; 1920
Rules of proper football first codified; 1863. We get first dibs.
totes babes
america > rest of the world
fang: on the right track since 2011
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
your/you're fail
fang: on the right track since 2011
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
(invented the language too)
totes babes
by Aranathor on Jun 20, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
U-Verse has three games blacked out this week
Wednesday, Thursday, and Sunday….joy
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
My neighbor (who's a die-hard cubs fan)
called in and complained. He’s now rocking 20 dollars off his bill for the next 6 months, increased download speeds, and a free upgrade to the next channel tier for 6 months.
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet. You know what number he called?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I think it was the customer retention line
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jun 20, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm told if you call Comcast
and tell them you are switching to Direct TV, they will give you a free premium channel.
(haven’t tried it yet)
Don't give up that easy
I talked them into $15/month off for 2 years.
And now I’m trying to switch to Uverse for $40 more off/month but hte installer isn’t showing up.
at least we got games
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
1-800-288-2020
I called last Tuesday during their last blackout. Had to wait a little while on hold, then I said unless you’ve got something good to offer, you need to cancel my service. I got $15 off my TV package and increased my internet tier from 3mb to 12mb for no price increase for the next 6 months.
by Handsome B Wonderful on Jun 20, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
did you mention that
you would have to choke a bitch if they did not comply?
totes babes
by Aranathor on Jun 20, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Would have been interesting to hear the response from the woman I was talking to.
And to time the police response to my home. My guess would be 3+ hours on the latter, being St. Louis City and all.
by Handsome B Wonderful on Jun 20, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem with me
is that I have absolutely no desire to change from Uverse. I’d hate to have to back down if for some reason they refuse to give it to me.
Why?
Just act mad and hang up. Or just hang up. Who cares whether you actually switch or not?
What I mean
is that I don’t want to demand they give me something I or will switch, and then have them not give me anything and not switch.
I know, typing it out makes it seem a bit silly, but still…
Some people have a little thing called morals..
one of the parts in that is being honest. Some people believe in not being an asshole so somebody who doesn’t deserve it to get their way or to get something for free. Look into it. :)
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, i honestly don't care about the blackouts.
And now that they have the MLB Net the only fault I have with them is not having FSC in HD. Other than that, they have been bar far the best carrier I’ve ever had (Time Warner, Charter, Dish, Direct, UVerse.)
But I’d like to save $20 a month!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
bar far
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Last week Joe Strauss mentioned that aside from Miller, Martinez, and Cox...
No one was really untouchable in the farm system. He then added that this included some surprising names. I can’t help but think this meant Oscar Tavares. He’d have to be an extreeeeeeemely attractive prospect in any trade involving Reyes or any other big name player…Then when you start adding names like Swagerty, Rosenthal, Kelly, Blair, Jenkins, etc….I think its foolish to say the Cards “don’t have enough” to land a premier player.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 5:36 PM EDT reply actions
It's really great having three untouchable prospects.
When was the last time the Cards had three untouchable prospects?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
ankiel, drew, and hutchinson?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He was an NFL Quarterback!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Or right you're British
Hand-egg thrower
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Poor Drew Henson and Chad Hutchinson...
Imagine being that talented at 2 sports and not winding up very successful at either.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh...
Hutchinson – 4 Major League innings….15 games at quarterback (14 starts)
Henson – 9 Major League at bats…….9 games at quaterback (1 start)
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Cards gave him a $2.3 million dollar bonus to not play football...
which he did later anyway because he sucked at baseball
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know why Cox would be untouchable
He doesn’t seem to be on the same stratosphere as the other two.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 20, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
OT
Has anyone read Three Nights in August?
I’m teaching a class this Fall and the basic theme is how coaching/sports philosophies apply to life. It’s essentially a class to promote critical thinking skills and expose students to college-level analysis, writing, discussion, etc.
I’ve never read it and thought that making it a required text would be a nice way to do so.
Any feedback is most welcome.
HOnestly I thought the book was kinda boring
esp. if you follow baseball in much detail. There were a few interesting things about trying to play Pujols without blowing his arm, but meh.
Unfortunately
you don’t get detail like that. There’s no “Miles is starting in right” kind of crap.
I thought it was an interesting read
fortunately for my enjoyment of the book, I read it before I had any idea that the author (Bissinger) is a giant asshole. Especially if the subject is critical thinking, you may want to pick something else….
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
I agree with this exactly
When I heard he was such a prick I was like, damn it! I liked his book but a lot of that was how Kerry Robinson’s reality set that series up perfectly for subjective entertainment
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 21, 2011 9:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's been a while
But it doesn’t sound like what you are going for. Don’t recall a lot of emphasis on critical thinking, more about the personalities and managing people. I felt it was a well written book, but it wasn’t at all what I was expecting it to be. Don’t remember details, just my general impressions, so I might be way off.
Sounds like maybe you are looking for something like Moneyball?
by Merry CRasmus on Jun 20, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Inventing the Pyramid, if we can stay on track w/ soccer day, would be great for this.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I'm just trying to keep America's youth from having to read Buzz Bissinger.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I would suggest George Will's "Men at Work"
over Three Nights if you’re hell bent on using a baseball book. Will’s book covers more facets of the game, isn’t written by a bi-polar assclown, and has much more detail and insight into the thought processes and the “what’s really important” work in the game of baseball. A far superior book in my view, and this is coming from someone who wouldn’t piss on George Will should I see him lit on fire.
Other sports books that would make sense for this purpose:
- “Paper Lion” – George Plimpton: Average guy tries to make in as an NFL player in 1966. Fantastic read, and has a lot of what you’re looking for I think.
- “The Breaks of the Game” – David Halberstam: This follows the ’79 Portland Trail Blazers for a full season.
- “Season on the Brink” – John Feinstein: Bobby Knight. ’Nuff said.
- “The Long Season” – Jim Brosnan: More autobiographical, it follows a pitcher through a full year, not just a season. Reads more like a diary, but the insights are interesting.
- “Sixty Feet, Six Inches” – Lonnie Wheeler: Bob Gibson and Reggie Jackson talk about baseball. Reads like an interview, because that’s mainly what it was.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Pretty well any sports book by Halberstam is good
I thoroughly enjoyed both Summer of ’49 and October 1964.
by WizardofOz1982 on Jun 21, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
still need to lose berkman or yadi for significant time
maybe colby can come down with leprosy
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
.. and pull a hamstring?
pull it right off?
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 20, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
that sounds familliar...
Job, wasn’t it?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 20, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah!
someone caught it! Yes, Job came down with a bad case of leprosy and pulled his hamstring right off.
Meanwhile, Sodom and Gomorrah are still tied at 69.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 21, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
MatthewHLeach: Will be updating this story: http://t.co/FMcKfje a couple of times. For now, one main point: AP will be in a splint for 4 weeks.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Fuck you, GOBs.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ESPN just called it a forearm fracture
Thank you
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 6:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
But Leach's article
and quotes from Mo indicate that it does involve the wrist
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i'm quoting scoot as saying that the radius is part of the wrist
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
wait, you're scoot
you can just say “i’m a doctor, bitch”
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
For future reference
I’m a doctor, bitch
DPT
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 10:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
good to know
wanna take a look at this rash on my ass?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I got a rash, man.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 20, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hadn't seen that anywhere
How does it involve if it is a fx of the radius? Radial head?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 10:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
heh, "head"
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure, but I'm afaid it means that the fracture went into the articular cartilage/joint surface
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I have a "forearm fracture" evaluation on my schedule tomorrow
I choose to believe it will be Albert pujols
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 6:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if you fuck him up
i swear to god i am on the first plane to whichever state your in
totes babes
by Aranathor on Jun 20, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I'm good with wrists
Er…..at treating broken wrists
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 20, 2011 10:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
is this where we panic?
WHY DID THE CARDS TWITTER HAVE TO SAY “BREAKING”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
where's the fun in that?
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
don't be a flaming queen
don’t grab his ass in front of them
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
you've obviously never met me
i am very much less than flaming. but yeah i get your point.
totes babes
Throwing in a few 'yes ma'am' and 'no ma'am's wouldn't hurt.
I know you Brits are overly polite, but I’d double it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
this is Europe, Forsch, not Texas
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
madam?
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
You're in Houston.
That hardly counts.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point.
We’d assume he was from BP UK and do nothing.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
And that keeps that from not being polite, how?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
bring them a gift
i recommend dick in a box
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhwbxEfy7fg
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
gillette sucks.
fang: on the right track since 2011
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
good thread, VEB.
except i was disappointed that i had to z through a 100 comment subthread about fucking futbol soccer.
fang: on the right track since 2011
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 7:00 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah that's much less interesting than your love life
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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i've talked about my love life....once.
and look what came of it. never again.
fang: on the right track since 2011
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
go away.
fang: on the right track since 2011
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i <3 u
fang: on the right track since 2011
twitter (the one i'm trying to make worth following)
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Wood is going to get shelled here
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm working
and watching out of the corner of my eye. 4-0 now. Why no Cueto tonight?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
We don't have to root for the yankees to win,
just for the reds to lose. Slightly less slimy feeling.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Rooting for localized Ohio River flooding is okay?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
define "localized"
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
I think that's localized enough.
plus it’d make all kinds of great photoshop-ops for mr. redlegs.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
tb-mil is the free game of the day on mlb.tv starting at 7:10 CDT
fang: on the right track since 2011
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
Talk about not fair.
Not only do I not get to go to VEB day again, the Jefferson Co Historical Society is having vintage baseball at the JCHS village in Mt. Vernon, IL on Sunday and I have to go to a family reunion 65 miles in the other direction. That really bites, especially since they do some killer homemade ice cream.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
family reunions are not mandatory, you know
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
If I don't want to piss off all the aunts at the same time
by not showing up with the kid, then yes they are.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah,
that would get ugly in a hurry. I am the next to last of my generation to have kids. I have one cousin in my gen that hasn’t had one yet so they’ve been waiting for this for 40 years. I would be tempting serious injury by not showing up with the kid.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
After our first kid was born, one Saturday I stopped over at my parents' house to visit
The first thing out of my mom’s mouth was “Where’s the baby?”
Love you too, mom.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
i recently came home from uni
very first thing my mum said to me; " your getting fat"
oh mothers…
totes babes
Did you correct her by letting her know it was "you're?"
(I would never correct you, Aranathor. But your mother, well, what she said was rude, so she deserves to be punished.)
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
by a fink on Jun 20, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
you know what
i really don’t know why i make that mistake so often. It just seems to be on here, probably because i don’t really think about most of what i type on VEB.
totes babes
VEB,
which prides itself on eschewing capitals, has no cause for complaint.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
by alberich on Jun 20, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
other than it's fun
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, my grammar on VEB sucketh mightily.
and it’s even more embarrassing considering my station…
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
your station as a stay-at-home dad?
strange……
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, now that I can see.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This doesn't involve a sword in a rock, does it?
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Whenever I'm caught in a solecism,
I sigh and say “That’s what comes of spending so much time with the First Folio.”
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
heh. yeah, actually this is the first time I ever pulled that on you, and generally I don't even notice.
I wouldn’t have done it, but I was sort of pulled by the possibility of blaming your mother and turning the meme (let’s be honest, the Aranathor your/you’re quandary IS a meme here) another rotation.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
Hell, it's not just my mom that does that.
My dad is just as bad. Of course, I named the kid after him, so that may have something to do with it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
so Betemit
I am trying not to be annoyed at the guy, but I need a scapegoat. or maybe Kozma, since it looked like he was throwing the ball AT Betemit. Albert was just trying to save the guy. anyway, this really blows. the worst part is that Albert just should not have tried to catch that I think. or maybe all 3 are at fault.
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 7:55 PM EDT reply actions
I recommend Kozma.
Look at poor the way poor Cousins was villainized after the Posey incident.
Still not a werewolf.
If you're going to be annoyed
be so at Betemit for not running in foul territory. Kozma’s throw was not all that egregious. Albert hardly had to stretch to get it. If Albert had been with his right foot on the bag, he wouldn’t have been in base path. I have a hard time finding fault with Kozma’s throw. It was just bad luck all the way around.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that Kozma's throw isn't at fault
But if he’s looking to blame someone to make himself feel better, picking the opposing side is a tricky business when the opponent didn’t do something clearly flagrant; the opponents and their fans get awfully defensive.
So I’m still recommending Kozma even though it’s not fair to him.
Still not a werewolf.
I will go with this one
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess.
That was just too pretty of a pick and throw for me to not be defensive of it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that's kind of what I thought initially
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, Albert's Father's Day present!
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
you want a scapegoat
it’s whoever has taught Pujols that awful footwork around the bag that leads to him being in the baseline. We’ve been afraid this was going to happen since the Joe Thurston days and it finally did. In fact, Thurston might be a good scapegoat as he was the one that made those throws most frequently and I think that is where Albert got that habit.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Jun 20, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and the the prevalent internet fallacy
Reducto Ad Thurstonem rears its ugly head
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Jun 20, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
....what makes you so sure it's a fallacy?
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
yeah
this is like reductio ad hitlerum. it’s not necessarily a fallacy. just usually
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
you know who ELSE liked to blame unpopular individuals
For things that were not their fault?
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jun 21, 2011 1:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah Albert has been toeing the line over there for quite some time
it seems he is often in the basepath of the runner at least somewhat. I just wonder what percentage has been on bad throws though. probably about normal but the subjectivity of it (don’t hurt the greatest player playing now!) makes me think it is higher.
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
hi, hello, how are you? you don't have to anwer that, i already know
this certainly is a bad day. and that’s probably one of the most depressing photos i’ve ever seen so i thought i’d try & cheer y’’all up a little with a pic of me & my first bike.
i called her Sunshine because she always made me smile. hopefully it does the same for y’all now.
Balls
by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2011 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
HFS
Where the hell have you been?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
ever have any luck on the job search?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
not at all, been working real hard for the past couple months & nothing
had a couple really great interviews last week & both turned me down. the one really pissed me off because they kept going on & on about how awesome i was taking care of my dad for so long. but what are you gonna do?
Balls
there's a reason for that, considering i'm so far out of the loop with the Cards
i don’t want to clutter VEB with OT stuff. it’s different in the winter winter when there’s nothing going on. but i don’t want to piss people off by not talking about baseball
Balls
oh, you didn't hear?
Since Rui got his job we are also a soccer site now!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Interesting.
I haven’t heard that either. I specifically didn’t talk about my adventures in soccer land here because I thought people would be annoyed. Are you telling me I could have?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 21, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
no
scoot is threatening to talk about football in the football season. gotta keep the kicky foot to a minimum
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 21, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
And since Rui got married, we're also a wedding site
And since Rui started getting into beer we’re also a drunk posting site.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 21, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
did you hear rui likes the Beatles?
THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
@Codeeg
to be fair, we've always kind of been that last thing.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
I really think it's ok
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 21, 2011 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions
gingers don't qualify
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
Actually, that's Strauss.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
didn't you always figure him for a ginger?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That thing is fucking awesome
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
That kid is Joe Strauss.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Jun 20, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
ahh.. so the kid on the unicorn bike is BJ Rains
That would explain a lot..
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
I has a sad.
Thinking happy thoughts:
/today (or tomorrow?) is the longest day of the year.
//Skippy is due for another walkoff homer in September 2013.
///Futurama will be back with new episodes soon.
////Albert will be cheaper in Free Agen…(STOP IT LAMBTRON!!!)
Bright side!
When Pujols comes back, it’ll be just like trading for a Hall of Famer!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Jun 20, 2011 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
You'll be late for your date if you try that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rec this
but it makes me so, so sad. :(
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
heh
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
So tomorrow i'm going to go and try to act appropriately in front of my BFs parents
if you hear from me before friday then things have gone terribly, horribly, awfully wrong.
In the mean time, go Cards! Win some f’n games for maching whilst he’s in the workshop.
totes babes
Good luck.
Advice.
Advice translated from C&W to British.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
You acted apprpriately around me.
Just pretend they have friends in the FBI who will hunt you down and act accordingly.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 20, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
y'all met & go to hang out?!?!?
i’m so jealous!
how was Europe? i was wondering when you were going to get back
Balls
It was wonderful.
Italy was nice, France was better, and England was even better. I love London and just want to live there even more now. And I have to go back so I can go to a game at the Emirates and so I can go on a tour of the stadium which I didn’t get to do because we had to meet the rest of our friends at the Tower of London. But yeah it was awesome.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 21, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
you thought England was better than France or Italy?
What the fuck are you, American?
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I mean there are some parts of Paris that I love.
Like Montmartre and Musee Rodin. But I just loved London so much. My friends thought people were rude there but I didn’t really ever experience that anywhere really.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 21, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I cried when I heard this headline :(
… Okay maybe not, but I did cringe a bit. Lance Berkman is more than a serviceable option though, still he’s not the machine.
Icthyophobia- (n.) Fear of the Fish.
can we borrow josh johnson for a week when he comes back? a month . . . . two months tops.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
My wife just gave my my Father's Day gift.
It was the 4 dvd set of Firefly. I’m setting it next to my box set of Farscape that she got me for Christmas. I’m waaaaay happy now.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:47 PM EDT reply actions
nice. I got gobies for my current aquarium project.
Let’s hear it for wives who know their husband’s tastes!
My mother ALWAYS fails miserably with getting gifts for my dad…
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
kewl. that's always a good type of gift.
Yep, she’s good about that. I try to make it easy on her as well. I’m pretty simple.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
my wife makes me give her a detailed list
that’s okay with me. I got part one of the Good Eats cookbook’s-of-the-show.
I’m happy. (at least partially because I have no excuse not to be)
The Firefly set is cool. I’m glad I didn’t get to see it when it was originally on, because that would’ve been a tough cancellation to deal with.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
That sounds like a gift I may have to get my wife.
The dvd set was not looked for. I figured it would be tools. When she gave me Farscape box set I just sat and stared at if for about 5 minutes with my mouth open. She knows what I like for sure.
That was a tough cancellation. Even though they screwed it up when they presented it. It was too good.
Incidentally, am I the only one on here that likes Farscape? I always thought it was pretty well done, myself.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 20, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So what time does our game start
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
it doesn't?
fang: on the right track since 2011
twitter (the one i'm trying to make worth following)
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
They cancelled the season when Albert was diagnosed.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
because apparently tonight's the night you would be able to watch.
the cardinals obviously hate you.
fang: on the right track since 2011
twitter (the one i'm trying to make worth following)
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I was watching Yanks-Reds, and now I'm watching Antiques Roadshow.
My night will get better when my wife is done putting the kid to bed and we can watch The Wire (toward the end of season 1)
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
so if this were to be appraised, it would be worth... two in the bush
REALLY?
by peppermartin on Jun 20, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know why, but it's fascinating that a Persian-style glass from the 1700s would end up in Wichita
by peppermartin on Jun 20, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
liveblog a miss
and their awww face.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Oh wait, if you look here
you’ll see that it’s really from Sears & Roebuck, circa 1910.
It’s a great piece for family stories, but it’s only worth about $30.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
as sad as it is to say, a lot of those "surprise" finds are not surprises, but set up by the show itself.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
they're replacing jim lehrer with a topless playboy bunny!
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
see what that soccer does
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 20, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tim Hudson is beating the Blue Jays all by himself.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
huh, Shelby Miller isn't completely dominating
this is different.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
Line so far?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
pitches/strikes?
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
fairly efficient
now through 5 IP with 68 pitches. Not the Ks we’re used to but…
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
i would hope this means he's well enough to hit but not to field his position.
not that pop warner loves his bat in the lineup.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
that's an amazing ratio
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 21, 2011 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions
ok i didnt read all of the posts, but has a call up been announced
or they waiting til tom.?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Mark Hamilton is not in the Memphis lineup tonight
I’m guessing thats a pretty good clue
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
not terribly exciting but at least its not Stavinoha
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
and yeah thats true.. hasnt anderson played 1b or am i mistaken?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
he has played...
1 game at 1st base, 1 game in left field….everything else at catcher. His offensive numbers are pretty terrible (so are Kozma’s and Cruz’s) at AAA. Hamilton probably has earned a chance to get a better look, but I would have been more interested to see Darryl Jones (pretty decent year so far), Aaron Luna, or Matt Carpenter.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my.....
Well this might change things….Tyler Greene is also not in the Memphis lineup. He’s also not listed under “available players” either……Hmmmm.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
wel he can't be in st louis
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
Something is up....
Hamilton and Greene were both sent out on the 18th…Hamilton appeared in both the games on the 18th and on the 19th…..Greene has yet to appear for Memphis at all.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
but he needs to be away for 10 days to be eligible for return
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
More specifically....
Not if he’s recalled because someone went on the DL
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, that's right, they already put him on the dl, didn't they?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
Albert? Not until tomorrow...
I could give a crap whether its Tyler Greene or Mark Hamilton that get recalled. I’m just saying - Where the hell is Tyler Greene?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather be in the Fredbird costume...
than be the guy that made the wild throw that Albert got injured on causing his historic streaks to come to an end. Not really saying it’s Kozma’s fault…but still wouldn’t wanna be that guy.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, Kozma's driving the van?
either way, don’t get in the van.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wtf...
Good advice I guess…vans are typically bad news.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Fredbird drives the unmarked one. it says free candy.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Tyler Greene can't resist candy
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess he thought...
getting high and looking for ghosts would be more fun than playing in the minors.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
actually, we could all watch the Stan Musial thing on PBS later.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what thing?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
...
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/6/17/2228627/stan-musial-topic-on-charlie-rose-airs-next-monday
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh sweet, i'm now gonna go ahead and rip this video
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 56
this just in
Ozzie Guillen is crazy
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
better than the asians facing less
rascism thing?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
he booted Geovony Soto's catching mask...
So yea…I’m gonna go with “yes”
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jun 20, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, that I need to track down.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Let it hit the ground first.
Those things are heavy and appear awkward to catch.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Heh, thanks for that.
Soto is just looking in the dugout, smiling, as if to say “what the fuck is up with this dude?”
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine there were some things being yelled from the Cubs dugout at that point
to Soto’s credit, he looks like he doesn’t take it personally and he’s enjoying the show like everybody else.
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
oh that's priceless
instant classic
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
last angle
ball looked like it was still on the plate, right?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
yeah
it’s so goofy I’m not sure what really happened. From the side, it’s definitely close to even with his front foot, so it’s not behind the plate. From the front view though, it looks like it’s off the plate.
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
I like when he kicks the dirt behind the middle of the plate
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
he did what?
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
*just* in?
it’s been in for a while now
WANTED: A new signature. Please feel free to suggest something to go here because I'm bad at creativity.
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
Sarcastro
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 20, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, Lucroy?
The moment I tune in?
Bite me.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
actually I think that's my fault
no sooner did I open the window and type the top of the 7th out….
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
I've had too many of those lately.
I think my mojo is sprained.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Tampa scores 4 in the 7th
Shoppach BB
Johnson sac
Ruggiano 2B, RBI
Damon GO4
Zobrist 2B, RBI
(Dillard relieved Narveson)
Longoria 1B, RBI
Upton 1B, RBI (Longoria moved up on WP)
Rodriguez HBP
Kotchman ROE3
Shoppach GO3
5-0 Tampa.
….whoops, just as I was reaching for the post button, Lucroy leads off the bottom of the inning w/ a HR. Make that 5-1.
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
Longoria answers!
8 – 1 Devil Rays
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
Anibal having a good night against the Angels.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
Anibal is done, Angels scratch one across against the bullpen.
2 – 1 Angels now. Will this be #11?
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Bases juiced for the Brewers, none out.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
Asdrubal Cabrera is ridiculous
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Jun 20, 2011 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I'll rec that.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 20, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
that barehand on the short hop that was already past him should be play of the year
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Sadly I didn't see it.
I have no internet at my apartment so I am on campus with my friend in her room stealing internet from Clemson. Not really stealing because I have a password and everything but that sounds more fun.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 20, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
you'll be seeing it sometime I'm sure
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yeah.
I guess I could check the MLB site but I’m supposed to be writing a paper.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 20, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Where are you right now?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
creepy
just go stare at her profile some more
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Jun 20, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
fang likes this.
fang: on the right track since 2011
twitter (the one i'm trying to make worth following)
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
oh hey, this is the MLB.tv free game
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
baseball is on?
oh shit. must watch
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
you > rui
fang: on the right track since 2011
twitter (the one i'm trying to make worth following)
by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
obv
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
oh man, it's also ray's and brewers!
my favorite AL team and the current arch nemesis!
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
gettin' to' up
this could put us in sole possession of first, right?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
This PA by Lucroy is redic
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
12 pitches.
Pitch f/x plot looks like a shotgun went off.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Farns!
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Craig Counsell still looks like he's in high school.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yet he is older than 90% of the posters here
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Roenicke & the batting coach were ejected in the 6th by Balkin' Bob
not sure what for. Arguing balls and strikes, I guess…..happened after Morgan struck out swinging to lead off.
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
I kind of expected Counsell to line a double to the gap there
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
Any chance Matt Carp gets the callup?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i'd like that if he played third base every single day
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Carp at 3rd
Descalso to 2nd, Berk to 1st, and Skip Jay to right
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
skip to the taco bell drive thru
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 20, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it'll be Hamilton
Freese will be back soon….
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
Yeah, that's 11 in a row for the Fishies.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 11:41 PM EDT reply actions
Hot Tampa Bay fans? In Milwaukee?
It’s more likely than you think.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 11:45 PM EDT reply actions
Oh, did they finally close it out?
Yay. 8 – 4 Not-the-Brewers
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 20, 2011 11:50 PM EDT reply actions
woohoo
need that, with Halladay vs McClellan tomorrow
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 21, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Anybody know anything about the LG OptimusT phones?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 21, 2011 12:51 AM EDT reply actions
hope this helps:
I don’t
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jun 21, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks
that really narrowed it down for me
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 21, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, those worked really well, too.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 21, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
that doesn't help much
but it is funny.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 21, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
i'd never seen it before
here’s the whole video
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Jerry Garcia is a Phillies fan.
Who knew?
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 21, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks.
I’ll bet the catcher felt bad.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 21, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
the announcers
haha oooh woa…all monotone
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Drunkkkkkkkkk
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
we have a left-handed power hitting 1B doing radio
maybe we can bring him back…. Ha ha.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
we don't have anything for him to hump.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
We've discussed everything else.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
It's too damn hot for a penguin to be just walkin' around!
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
what if it's supervised?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 21, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 21, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
they love him for who he is
he’s in a better place… sniff.
it just happens to be Seattle, so we can continue that meme indefinitely.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
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