Albert Pujols and why other teams might want the Cardinals' underperforming first baseman
by DanUpBaby on Jun 17, 2011 8:01 AM EDT
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After that home run off future Cards Talk mainstay Tyler Clippard Albert Pujols is hitting .308/.420/.788 in the month of June. It's the first Albert Pujols Month of the year, and it pushes his seasonal OPS all the way to .844, which is 20th in the National League, behind Brett Wallace, Todd Helton, and other people who aren't as interesting to mention.
Even in June he's not the hottest hitter around. He's still behind Prince Fielder (.379/.559/1.025), Matt Kemp (.429/.541/.980), and Andrew McCutchen (.479/.552/.667, winner of the honorary Tip O'Neill award for the line that most closely resembles an outstanding season for a hitter of the 1880s.)
All these home runs aren't quite enough to stave off the Pujols-decline talk that's been built up over two ugly months of adequacy (though he's now on pace, once more, to hit 37 home runs and drive in 100), but they do help explain why he'll be a free-agency circus anyway: If Pujols finished the month with his OPS of 1.208 it would only be the fifth best month of his career. It would be the 22nd time he finished a month with an OPS over 1.100, which is usually enough to put you in the running for a player of the month award (he's won six.)
What was strange about Pujols in 2011 was that he wasn't playing up to the consistently excellent level he usually did; what was strange about Pujols before that was just how high that level was. Until this year Pujols put up, month after month, the kind of lines that would top off a season for a regular star; if he begins to do it again people are going to forget the Pujols they saw in April and May in favor of the Pujols they saw almost constantly for 10 years. And that's why free agency is going to suck.
With Mitchell Boggs and Fernando Salas both seeing heavy use on Thursday we're about to get the chance to see just how thin this bullpen is without Eduardo Sanchez. Jason Motte is the only fresh pitcher in the bullpen whose numbers aren't terrible; after that Tony La Russa can decide between home run rates of 2.5 and 3.2 per nine innings, or two K:BB ratios under one. Given those options I can understand why John Mozeliak is supposed to have been sniffing around J.C. Romero recently, even though Romero looks to me to have basically the exact same problems Trever Miller does. (I'd still rather try Raul Valdes, who has the same problems Brian Tallet does.)
Jess Todd hasn't exactly forced Mozeliak's hand in Memphis, but the Cardinals are now carrying four relievers whose poor play has caused La Russa to tiptoe around them in favor of the Young Pitchers. That's unsustainable, even for a manager who loves veterans and 13-man pitching staffs, and Todd is the only reliever left in the box with the chance to succeed in important innings.
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Speaking of bullpen problems, is anybody interested in a reclamation-project left-hander? He once struck out 239 batters in a season, and he's only 27! Also, he's allowed 29 earned runs in 15 innings with the Salt Lake Bees. I think the Scott Kazmir story is even sadder than the Mark Prior story, in its particulars. Kazmir began his career as a kind of perfect introduction to baseball for people whose desire for smarter-than-the-guys-in-the-room analysis was piqued by Moneyball, when in 2004 the Mets traded a guy who didn't look like a starter but had put up outstanding minor league numbers for a guy who did look like a starter, one who managed to lead the American League in walks allowed despite leaving at the trade deadline.
Instant Moneyball gratification: Kazmir came up immediately as a 20-year-old and struck out 41 in 33 innings. Then over the next several years things just never fit together perfectly; Kazmir was always great, but he lost a gear as soon as the Rays got enough offense to win him games, and over his brief career with the Angels we watched as he abruptly lost the ability to pitch the way he once had in front of the cameras. There was no disappearance, like with Prior, and in Salt Lake the minor league fans who saw his 17.05 ERA caught an ugly chapter that Prior must have come to terms with by himself, in gyms and on practice fields.
Shoulder problems are vicious—they obliterate a pitcher's identity, and the long-lost Moneyball reader in me knows that intuitively. But even now I hope Kazmir catches on somewhere else. You'll be happy to know that the worried Scott Kazmir meets Dave Duncan connection has already been made on BTF.
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http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/6/17/2228627/stan-musial-topic-on-charlie-rose-airs-next-monday
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I have really enjoyed the George Vescey book.
He had me at the completion of the prologue anecdote, though, and I’m really not an objective critic of books about Musial.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Me as well.
About half way through. There are a lot of nice stories and tidbits of The Man. Still kind of wish Joe Pos had taken it on thought.
stop saying Moneyball or someone will link to the movie preview
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm so excited to see Phillip Seymour Hoffman play Art Howe.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The BTF story's comment section has devolved
Into a argument about time signature for the Zeppelin song “Kashmir.” That’s awesome
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/3/2011):
51 IP, 63 K, 22 BB/HBP, 21 ER, 2 HR, 2.41 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 17, 2011 8:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I stopped myself from posting a comment because I couldn't transcribe the bass line.
what a fail
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 17, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
There are multiple time signatures used.
As in the drummer is doing one thing, the guiatrs/keys another. I could see where that would confuse people.
LZ did a lot of tricky/subtle stuff like that
the pauses in the verses of Black Dog are different lengths, for example.
The main riff in Kashmir is in 6/4 (you can think of 2 bars of 6/4 as being the same as 3 bars of 4/4, but that makes the phrase lengths weird). The 2nd (louder) string theme that comes in over the top is in 4/4. It’s very slick how the 4/4 riff is aligned so that it fights with the underlying 6/4. Bonham just keeps pounding away, kicks on the odds, snares on the evens, so it stays coherent whether you’re listening to it in 4 or 6.
When it gets into the next part (“mama!”) the transition is one bar of 9/8 before it straightens out and goes back into 4/4. The chorus section is 4/4 also.
The genius is that most people have no idea that the whole song is not in a straight 4/4, in part cause it’s so drony and repetitive….
/dork
I got nothing on Kazmir the pitcher.
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well, was at the game last night. That one sucked.
By the way, the grass on the knoll behind the center field/left center field wall at Nationals Park is not really grass. For those who just really need to know these things.
Astro-turfy knoll gunman?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 17, 2011 9:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Keep Albert, if possible.
the end.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
The Giants need a catcher
Think the Cards would trade Laird to the Giants once he comes off the DL for one of their relievers?
the problem is whether or not he's activated before the trade deadline
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
i imagine he's got the same timetable freese had
which i think was 6-8 weeks. i don’t remember when he went down
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I haven't read Moneyball,
but it’s my understanding that Beane focused on drafting college pitchers with a track record of success and not high-school pitchers. I believe Kazmir was drafted out of high school. That being said, I think you may be going for the “jeans model” angle, where Kazmir doesn’t look the part of a jeans model—er, major-league starter—so Steve Phillips was okay trading him for Victor Zambrano.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Kazmir was talked about in Moneyball
And Beane discussed why he didn’t like picking guys like Kazmir in the book for the reason you stated.
yeah, it wasn't straight moneyball
but I remember the kazmir thing vividly as the first moment after I became a moneyball-inflected baseball fan where a GM making an obviously stupid decision played itself out in such a morality-play style. the BTF thread on it was just several pages of mets-fan self-immolation and prospectus-reader triumphalism.
you should really read it.
even though there won’t be any statistical revelations for you, Lewis offers a pretty good backdrop of a front office in MLB. Plus it will only take you a weekend at most – easy read.
This may sound odd,
but I was putting together lineups on the traveling team I helped coach based on SLG and OBP in 1996. So, I heard about this book, thought to myself, “Wait, MLB clubs don’t use OBP?” and then went about my college life.
I’ve had a ton of people tell me I should read it, even baseball “traditionalists.” To which I say that I’m aware of Michael Lewis’s skill at weaving a narrative, but I liked Moneyball just fine the first time I lived it, with the Whiteyball era St. Louis Cardinals.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It's really more about market inefficiencies as they relate to baseball than it is about baseball.
At least, that’s what I got out of it.
Also, Billy Beane wrote Moneyball. I don’t know who Michael Lewis is. Richard Lewis’ brother?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
(note to self: don't VEB while talking to the IRS. distracting.)
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Cool story, Fritz
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Don't you have something to not get paid to do?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I have lots of things to not get paid to do, thankyouverymuch
15 hour workday today!
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You need one of those old "Soccer is Life. The rest is just details" t-shirts.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 17, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
except that they didn't pay to bring him here
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm giving serious thought to looking into the Fair Labor Standards Act on your behalf.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Can you have a case
when it’s self-inflicted?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
This was tongue-in-cheek.
Unpaid internships occur across the country, so I doubt it violates the FLSA. That being said, the Supreme Court has held that a worker may not waive his or her FLSA rights.
The Department of Labor website makes me wonder, though…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
...
“The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) defines the term "employ" very broadly as including to "suffer or permit to work."”
Well said, DoL
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I immediately thought of putting stickers on stadium seats.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
HOW WAS THAT STATISTICAL ANALYSIS
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Did you count how many seats you put stickers on?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
No
I was too delirious from it being 1:00 AM
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Well, see there, that was your statistical analysis.
How many seats can a brain-fried, over-tired intern put a sticker on in the middle of the night?
I’m not trying to belittle what you do by this, but I really have a hard time seeing how you can get true statistical analysis from soccer. The game is too wide open to me. Too many variables to it. The players that just can’t keep up will show up pretty quickly, I’d think. The rest would have a shit-ton of luck tied to it. But I really don’t know much about it, just watch it from time to time.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
So what offensive sabermatrics are used in soccer?
If you’re lucky, a match will more than one goal.
by peppermartin on Jun 17, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's what I tell people:
You’re never going to be able to understand the game with statistics like you can in baseball, but there are still advantages to be gotten from statistical study
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contact average
=actual contact / times fallen on the ground
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"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
the FLOP statistic.
Otherwise known as ‘The Emmy’?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay.
I wasn’t trying to be a smartass. the idea just doesn’t jump out at me, but I can see your point.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I didn't take it that you were being a smartass at all
That’s a very valid concern. The other people in this subthread though…
On a game-to-game basis, each win or loss is probably decided more by luck than anything else, but the team still needs to have an effective game plan, which can be gotten by doing statistical analyses of opponent tendencies, stuff like that
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Soccer
I feel that the skill and luck in soccer are inextricably linked, in that a player properly playing his position or skilled enough can take advantage of a fortuitous opportunity. That is, statistical analysis could help field a team that finds itself in a position to have good-luck results.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I figured that it was tongue in cheek.
As was my response.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Unpaid internships are on the rise
Companies have realized that there’s a new labor force out there that they can tap for free or with nebulous returns like experience even though what they have you do may not pertain to what you are studying or want to do in the future. It’s an inherently exploitative relationship. I thought there were some pending cases on it but I can’t seem to find any details.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
by azruavatar on Jun 17, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you're right on that last part
I took the Mariners internship under the assumption it was unpaid. Like 2 months before I was to start, the NYT or WSJ came out with an article talking about the exploitative nature of unpaid internships, and then about a week after that, I got a call from the Mariners telling me that I was now going to be paid.
Better to pay interns $8.00/hr rather than risk an expensive lawsuit, I suppose
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If a lawsuit were brought,
they’d likely wind up paying the wages owed, liquidated damages, and attorney fees as well as their own attorneys’ fees. So, paying a barely minimum wage would be well worth ensuring there was no lawsuit, I would think.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The DOJ has created unpaid positions for Asst US Attorneys
I don’t practice labor law, but I suspect there must be some allowance for unpaid internships.
Where’s IHEARTBOOG?
They had Mark Mulder on BBTN talking about Kazmir
who better to discuss a left-handed pitcher who fell off of a cliff?
toonces, the cat who could drive a car?
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jun 17, 2011 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
this made me laugh
I haven’t thought about Toonces in quite a while
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 17, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess a waterfall is just a cliff that is showing off.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 17, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
that's funny.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
What about Andrew Bailey?
Speaking of Moneyball, Billy Beane still owes us for Mulder. The A’s are a mess and I’d think Lance Lynn is a perfect Moneyball pitcher that we could package a deal around.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
We don't need a 9th inning guy, who we would have to overpay for
We need a 6th inning guy that is not Ryan Franklin or Miguel Batista, and that person is basically replacement level
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Disagree
Shutdown the 8th and 9th (Bailey/Salas) Then your asking the bullpen to cover the 6th and 7th when the starter can’t get through them. Plus I don’t think you have to overpay for Bailey. It took who again to get Holliday? Exactly.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Our 8th/9th inning guys are fine (Salas, Motte, Sanchez)
Acquiring a guy like Bailey is just reactionary and a poor allocation of resources. Closers are notoriously overpriced based on their production
Also, the Holliday part is just results-based analysis. We gave up a pretty big package for a 4 month acquisition.
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Of course it is
results based analysis. Isn’t that the idea? I thought the whole idea of Sabermetrics was to predict future results based on past performance. The package was Wallace for 4-months of Holliday. Wallace plays 1st base now. We have a pretty good first baseman now. He was always trade bait. The other 3 players aren’t even on their 40 man or have been released.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Dick, toaster, etc.
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Okay
I know. Wallace is better than Holliday. This has gotten on a sort of tangent but I’ll bite cause the fire alarms are going off in the office. Wallace and Pujols share the same position so Wallace would have and OPS+ of 0 if he were still with the Cardinals. So we flipped him for 4 months of Holliday and spent a boatload on him. I get it. My original thought was address the bullpen by aquiring Andrew Bailey. I keep hearing all this talk about Heath Bell but if you can package a deal that would cost less to get Bailey, wouldn’t you explore it?
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Nobody here wants Heath Bell.
He’ll cost too much, he’s a rental, he’s older, he’ll cost too much to re-sign. What part of that looks like a good idea?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
We need 1or more of the options as follows:
A. A strong SP
B. A good SS
C. Better middle relief LH and RH.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Answers
A. Carl Pavano?
B. Macier Izturis?
C. Kyle McClellan (If A. is addressed)
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
JJ Hardy....would Jon Jay and/or Lance Lynn get that done?
by mick311 on Jun 17, 2011 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Theriot is the St. Louis shortstop.
I don’t see that even being proposed.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Enh
A. Eewww… Pavano. He’s pretty much identical to Westbrook. I wonder if the Mets would sell low on Johan contract-wise once he’s healthy. There’s always my pipe dream of seeing how Dunc could work with someone with real talent (maybe Nolasco?) or someone with horrible results but good stuff (Daniel Cabrera?).
B. Remember the last Izturis? Also, he’s only been significantly above-average once in his career, but would cost much more than that on the trade market. A Clint Barmes, Emilio Bonifacio, or Mike Aviles would be much more cost-effective. If they really wanted to spend talent-wise (can’t afford Jose Reyes, as awesome as that would be), I’d be intrigued to see what it would take to bring in Cliff Pennington.
C. Joe Saunders has still dominated against lefties. As for RH relief, McClellan suits the bill if the rotation gets straightened out.
by monkeysareblue on Jun 17, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Chris Capuano?
He could be a back of the rotation starter, thus moving K-Mac to the pen (2 birds one stone) or be a great loogy, career BAA for lefties is under .230
Like it was discussed the other day/yesterday?
lboros brought it up that we don’t need another back-of-the-rotation pitcher. We need front at least a 3 pitcher, better than avg in otherwords. Kmac needs to be in the pen, imo to help lighten the load there. Honestly, I don’t know where to go that won’t cost us an arm and a leg.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Joel Piniero?
He pitched like a 3 when he was here. I just don’t know either. It’s got to be a dave stewart type thatDunc can teach a forkball to or something.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
I apologize.
When I say I hear all this talk of Heath Bell its from so-called experts and radical fans. I was just making a counter-suggestion with no statistical analysis. It was just a “hey! What about this Bailey guy?”
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Gotcha, I also hadn't read farther down yet.
Right now I just want a SS that is actually a SS. If he hits, then great. Put Theriot’s ass at 2B and send Skippy packing. Get another SP if possible. I also want a Red Ryder BB gun and a real Radio Flyer wagon for Christmas.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
wallace is better than holliday?
doesn’t wallace have a .400 BABIP or something?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Well so does Holliday, to be fair
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since we are being fair and comparing Wallace's OPS+
Holliday currently has a 182 OPS+
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Jun 17, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's a little closer to average for holliday, though
i don’t see wallace as the .350 BABIP type
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
cause he crushes linedrives all over the field
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jun 17, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, it's easier to get hits
when you make people feel sorry for the baseball.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
.398 BABIP
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point, who cares about the 8th and 9th
if we’re down 6-1 in the 5th?
we need defense that won't screw over our starters so they can last past 5 or 6 innings.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Well sure
but who is going to solve that? I kept mentioning Yunel Escobar but everyone ignored me.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Should've got Escobar last year when he was actually available.
Why would Toronto even think of dealing him at this point? The only way to get him would be to blow Toronto out of the water and that would be a poor long term move.
by lopey986 on Jun 17, 2011 12:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd rather just get healthy and reevaluate our needs then
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I'm with you on this.
I’m not a fan of Theriot so that’s why I pine for a Shortstop. (With POWER!!) I think the bullpen needs to be addressed or adding a starter and sliding Kmac back to the bullpen.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
If you want a good defensive shortstop, who gets on base as often Theriot does, and has power
Then you’re looking to get one of the best players in MLB
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TRADE FOR JOSE REYES
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 17, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's why I think a trade with the Giants would make sense
They have too many relievers and also have a couple of replacement level guys that can be traded.
Well I mean
The idea of a replacement level guy is that they’re freely available. Guys like Augenstein and Todd are both about replacement level and we don’t have to give up a guty
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Mulder just listed pujols as number 2 on his top 6 first basemen list
Howard and Fielder nowhere to be found. A-Gon number 1. I guess he is putting a lot of stock in albert’s first two months (but not fielder’s)
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/3/2011):
51 IP, 63 K, 22 BB/HBP, 21 ER, 2 HR, 2.41 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 17, 2011 12:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Gonzalez is also two years younger than Albert, and a better defender.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
Yea
Im ok with it (the list)
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 17, 2011 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rosenthal update
6 IP, 7K, 2 BB, 2 HBP, 2 ER, 9:2 GO:FO
full season stats in my sig
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 17, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Also 5 hits
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 17, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wish he was going deeper into games
otherwise he’s having an excellent year.
11.1 K/9
2.9 BB/9
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
What are his pitch count totals?
The reason I ask is I wonder if they are keeping him on a strict count.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It's not an efficiency thing.
I just would like to see him with a little more leash.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
I see what you're saying.
He is being pulled out of games independent of his efficiency.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Ive been trying to find this info
I’m guessing he is on some sort of count
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 17, 2011 4:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he's a converted reliever
i’m okay with a bit of a tight leash for now. 6 IP is a solid.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
isn't he still at QC?
can we get a promotion?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I don't understand why he hasn't been
Seems like they would want a legit SP prospect with Dennis Martinez as long as possible
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 17, 2011 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and i mean
he’s obviously shown that he’s ready for a promotion. i just don’t see what there is to gain by keeping him in a league pitching against inferior talent
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I think I'm having an early mid-life crisis
Stemming from the depressing realization that predicting that Molina homer last night is probably the coolest thing I’ll ever do in my life. Hang on, gotta go buy a motorcycle or something.
Oh for god's sake
Make a woman scream your name tonight. Calling a homer in a blog? Seriously?
by sdrone on Jun 17, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
does his mom yelling down to the basement that dinner is ready count?
by STLRegalia on Jun 17, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 14 recs
that or
“Damn you xxx, leave me the eff alone!” is about the only way I ever expect to hear a woman scream my name.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 17, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
your name is moonshine?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
"god! stop asking me out!"
“as you wish!”
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought my name was "dammit" till I was 12
Dammit, will you shut the door!, Dammit, shut up!, Dammit, etc, etc.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 17, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
all I wanted was a Pepsi!
just one Pepsi!
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
I'M NOT CRAZY!
YOU’RE THE ONE WHO’S CRAZY!
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeez, ma, I'm finishing up an important post on VEB!
okay dear, that’s nice
by peppermartin on Jun 17, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this a line from an out take of the Budweiser pep talk radio ads?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'll have taking comments too literally for $600, Alex
(No, I’m not talking to you, Fritz. I’m talking to Trebek.)
there's this guy in Denver who can help you
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Funny Story
The first date I ever had with my wife was at Old Chicago in Columbia. (Gone now) We were talking and the baseball game was on. I told her if this guy up to bat hit a homerun that she would have to give me a kiss. Well it turns out the guy up to bat was Pujols and he did indeed hit a homerun. Later, I hit a homerun myself.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
by OKCardsfan on Jun 17, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
oh i get what you're saying. heh heh...
my favorite toppings are pepperoni and tears.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
NCAMSS
current line for no-limit arch beer league softball
.412/.500/.882
which is also how I want Albert to end the month of June
i'm a beast in my adult t-ball league
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
last time I played
I was like Albert Pujols…..the first 2 weeks of this season. My team was happy when I resulted in only one out. I had to buy a bunch of beer.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
did you adjust for league and park factors?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 17, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
no
no-limit + beer makes it harder than normal 12 inch leagues, but the park is similar to Fenway. 230 ft down each line with a 40 ft fence in left, but not in right (why I switched to left-handed).
What's your wOBA?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Softball Markov Chains
Where would one find these…
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
you can use Tango's markov chain generator to adjust for any league average
You could definitely do it for softball if you had some basic stats (league average singles, doubles, homers, runs, etc.)
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
it was a different era
a simpler time when we greatly anticipated a stellar duke nukem game, anthony weiner was investigating who hacked his twitter account, and my paycheck was a number in my bank and not star wars figurines in their original packaging. we were all so innocent back then.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
now the june 7th rangers, yankees, and cards
those were some truly great teams. i tell ya, you just won’t see anything like that nowadays no sir.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 2:52 PM EDT reply actions
reply fail
oh the indignity
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Losing Streak Run Differential:
-24
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
(mo calls a wal-mart in south florida)
MO: “hi, may i speak to your door greeter please?”
OPERATOR: “one moment”
HAL MCRAE: “hello this is hal…”
MO: “YOU’RE FIRED!” * click *
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
we're another sweep away from being in 4th place
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
No one can say until after a decision by the judge in the one-day trial.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Will Clark & the Legend of Locked In
In today’s Bytes column, Bernie drums up the ridiculous legend of Will Clark and J.D. Drew.
5. Bring in Will Clark to holler at Colby Rasmus … to get Rasmus going. OK, we jest about that one. But in case you don’t understand the reference, here’s the story: when the Cardinals acquired Will Clark at the trade deadline on July 31, 2000 he did a fantastic job down the stretch. Clark batted .345 with 12 homers and 42 RBIs for the Cardinals. But Clark also made J.D. Drew his personal project. There wasn’t a big difference in Drew’s numbers after Clark’s arrival, but Drew certainly seemed to be more locked in mentally, more alert, more energetic. Why? Well, he was intimidated by Clark. Anyway … Rasmus has been in a rut for too long. In 138 plate appearances since May 7 he’s batting .203 with a .290 OBP and a .358 SLG. His batting average against LHP during that time is .188. The Cardinals have to start scoring more runs. It helps to have Matt Holliday back. But the lineup won’t realize its potential unless Rasmus re-emerges as a force. He’s way overdue. A player with Rasmus’ ability shouldn’t be languishing like this.
Let’s get this straight, then.
There wasn’t a big difference in Drew’s numbers after Clark’s arrival, but Drew certainly seemed to be more locked in mentally, more alert, more energetic.
So, it had little to no effect on Drew’s production but made him seem more locked in? That’s just what the doctor ordered. Give me a break.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
we're but a few serious faces away from taking this division!
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's called a "game-face". Hellooooo.......
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
tell me more about this game...face?
is this game…face? a subset of serious faces or is it the opposite? could you express this in the form of a venn diagram for those of us without the ability to interpret facial expressions?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say that it is a subset of serious faces.
it occurs from the beginning of a sporting event to the end to said event. During which time one shall not show mirth or frivolity or any other actual emotion beyond disgust of not winning said contest. I shall have to put on said game-face in order to come up with a diagram, for I am not sure as yet how to accomplish it. And until I do, I cannot be happy or complacent with anything less than total success.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The face depends on the game
This is the face you make if your game of choice is “Terrifying Children!”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Pretty sure that will scare more than children.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because the numbers don't capture that he was a better baseball player doesn't mean he wasn't, bgh
God you’re so dumb
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Colby is just being a team player
he’s leaving RBI on the bases, so that Albert can get them and raise his season total. DUH.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
^actual al hrabosky logic
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 17, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yep.
i nearly spit food out of my mouth when that lil’ nugget escaped his brain.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
he is a veritable fount of wisdom.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a suppository of knowledge.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on Jun 17, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I'm laughing too much to come up with a better one.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Sportswriters have a difficult job.
Sometimes reality has to be molded to fit the column.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
That is literally the exact opposite of what they're supposed to do
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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it's an old profession
that is similar to the oldest
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a rui's mom joke in here, I just know it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
no shit
But it’s kind of hard to write interesting stories about facts (well not really, but I assume the average sportswriter has an IQ of 6).
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I still love the story about the post game habit
“HEY ROOK. GET ME A BEER!”
/empty can of Budweiser hits JD Drew in the head.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
are we doing this again? welp, no stopping it now...
TONY uses DUGOUT CEILING!
it’s super-effective!
DREW fainted.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT?! TONY is evolving!!!
do-do-do-do-do-dooo-do-do
TONY evolved into CONNIE MACK
(Can’t get rid of him now!)
totes babes
by Aranathor on Jun 17, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
TONY sent out COLBY! GO! COLBY!!
COLBY is loafing around!
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
BERKMAN used PUMA PRANCE
It’s super-effective!!!
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
by KlausChadman on Jun 17, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
man, I hope this is searchable
I’ll try pokemon, and hope for the best.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wow
http://www.cbs3springfield.com/story/14927109/baseball-players-wife-attacked
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
"Do you know us? We're a Major League baseball team"
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ Hardy
He’s probably a better option that Theriot, but let’s be real here…he is, at best, erratic — and his current season doesn’t match up with his past production, at least not consistently.
2010: .299/.366/.514
2009: .268/.320/.394
2008: .229/.302/.357
2007: .283/.343/.478
2006: .277/.323/.463
The defense is nice, and even when his hitting is down, he’s probably a win better than current version of decent-hit-no-field Theriot. But we’d have to pay for his current production in a trade, and while it’s possible he’s made a breakthrough, it’s also possible that this is just a mirage.
He's on the Twins right?
They have to be in sell mode. Plus Hardy is really good – probably a good 3 WAR going foward, making him significantly better than Theriot.
I’d give them Skip and Lance.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
TRADE FOR JOSE REYES
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 17, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i'm going write a script
that searches for keywords and just posts this for me automatically at the correct times
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
i wanted us to sign Hardy in the offseason...
It would be nice to pick him up if it didn’t cost us too much…and then move Theriot to 2nd. Hardy is MUCH better defensively, and even though his offense has been pretty inconsistent over his career his offensive numbers are much better as well:
Theriot: .285/.348/.356
Hardy .265/.325/.428
by mick311 on Jun 17, 2011 6:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm desperate for it to be 4 o'clock. I NEED THE WEEKEND!!!
(Actually I need a nap and then the weekend.)
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
i'm desperate for it to be 8 o clock
but i need a new job more than the weekend
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
i know a guy who can help you with that
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I really want to make a sex joke
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
well now it won't be funny anymore
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I see what you did there
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
...she said, running her thumb along the edge of the blade.
A casual, practiced gesture. One that had the desired effect…
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 17, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineup - Let's Riot
1. Skip Schumaker, 2B
2. Jon Jay, CF
3. Albert Pujols, 1B
4. Matt Holliday, LF
5. Lance Berkman, RF
6. Tony Cruz, C
7. Daniel Descalso, 3B
8. Tyler Greene, SS
9. Chris Carpenter, P
ugh
Skip leading off, brilliant
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
eh
Greene’s OBP this season is 31 points higher than Skippy’s.
.307 > .266
death is not an option
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 17, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
OBP
Schumaker: .276
Descalso: .294
Greene: .307
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that's depressing
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
Wow.
That’s awful. There are three guys in that lineup that should be in a major league starting lineup, plus a pitcher.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 17, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
There is often one player as offensively inept as each of those three on a big-leaguer roster:
the utility infielder (Nick Punto). And that’s the problem. We have three of them not only on our roster but in the starting lineup tonight.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
whoever called a colby day off, congrats
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
don't think that was the speculation
he’s just been bad lately
he needs a session with his dad, i think
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
.238 wOBA in june (.214 BABIP)
dunno if that’s all luck, but he does seem to hit a lot of balls really hard right at the 1B
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Being bad in June can't possibly be determining who plays in CF...
Widely liked CFer in June: 224/255/265 in 53 PAs
Widely disliked CFer in June: 185/214/315 in 56 PAs
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
eh, it's just an off day
Actually, last time colby was sent it was because he had “dead legs” or something like wasn’t it? I wander what his numbers look like since then.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Probably similar to Drew's after Will Clark joined the team...
you know, perkier.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Colby really needs a new team
It’s Ray Lankford all over again.
Colby is never going to put up flashy numbers – .300 average, tons of power. He should hit about .270-280, walk a ton and have decent power. But that won’t be enough to satisfy the local fans and press.
Not to mention, his main ability (walking) not only gets overlooked, it draws criticism both from the media and fans as well as apparently coaching. Remember all the crap about him being too cautious after the game he walked 5 times?
They (coaches/fans/media) just need to leave him alone and play. But that’s not gonna happen. For some reason he’s become a lightning rod…
I hate baseball people
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Your analogy to Ray Lankford makes no sense
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 17, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Whathefuckareyoutalkingabout?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony rested him recently, citing fatigue
wonder if it’s the same reason again.
Of course, he sat Theriot yesterday and is also sitting Molina today, so maybe it’s got more to do with the travel schedule.
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
worst. lineup. ever.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think this is even the worst lineup this year
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
yeah, it's pretty hard to be bad with Pujols-Holliday-Berkman
But besides them and Jay, this is just a black hole of suck.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
when Freese comes back
it means one fewer utility man in the lineup every freaking day. Come on, David….
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
Matt Carp could have fixed that
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
he tried, but he forgot to swing the bat
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
"never EVER"
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 17, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
21% walk rate!
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
.091 BABIP
We could do this all day, buddy.
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by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i'll let you go ahead and check out his wOBAr
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
still not good
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
how many PAs are we talking about here?
like .04 PAs or something?
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
pretty much
I’d like to see more of MC eventually, but the dude was just going up there with the bat on his shoulder. I think he went 1-15 or something.
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
i'm mainly joking
he should clearly be starting over DD right now. he’s almost as good of a defender and he’s likely to be much better offensively over a non-trivial sample size
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
What should have happened
IMHO, is when Freese went down, they should have called up MC and have him be the starter at 3rd.
But of course, with this team’s management, that’s too simple a solution. It has to be a musical chairs arrangement, with a new player at 3rd every day
I hate tony
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by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
well, he wasn't on the (then full) 40-man roster
so it wasn’t quite that simple
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
oh yes
couldn’t risk taking off David Kopp or Fransisco Samuel
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not sure the fascination with kopp
they ended up removing king instead and he got took. samuel is still a prospect. he would definitely get claimed
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
did i hear correctly?
is David supposed to be back soon?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
what happened to matt carp?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
sent down for Holliday, IIRC
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
This is a reactionary line-up
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/17/2011):
57 IP, 70 K, 26 BB/HBP, 22 ER, 2 HR, 2.46 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 17, 2011 7:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you read any of the tweets about the Cards travel schedule last night
I’m guessing it has a lot to do with that.
wow McCutchen is really freakin good!
don’t look now, but the Pirates are 3 games out of first place.
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2011 6:51 PM EDT reply actions
It's a four-man pit fight, y'all.
Only one of us comes out alive. Or possibly two. Depends on what’s going on in the other pits.
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
they aren't either!
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
for all the hype i keep hearing about Charlie Morton
he’s only K’ing 4.93 per nine compared to 3.64 BB/9.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
From April 7 to May 9
he hit 200/302/318. 127 plate appearances. I wish Bernie were here to explain how this could happen….
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
But was he focused
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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He's also their only hitter with a .350+ wOBA
Also, their top 4 starters’ ERAs are all well under their xFIPs.
I ain’t scurred.
was totally serious
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
ah
I didn’t realize that was going on
please, no more bullpen poetry
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
The skedge is crazy tilted toward us and against the Brewers. I think I fanshotted this when it came out. The Brewers play 15 against the Twins, Red Sox, Yanks, and Rays while we get the Royals, Orioles, Jays, and Rays.
This looked even worse before the season started and the Twins were thought to be good…
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
if we lose the division this year, it would be pretty freakin lame
please, no more bullpen poetry
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Marcum is teh suk
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If only more people thought like you
The world would be a better place.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh cool, your mom's name is VEP too?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You two are brothers?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No I'm his dad
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by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You must be so proud.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't been sober for 10 years
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by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
So that's what happened to that Penny f/x?
It all makes sense now….
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll have wahat he's having.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 17, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
this article
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/saber-friendly-tip-2-talkin-about-power/
got me thinking about how we really don’t have a very good stat for quantifying power. seems like it wouldn’t be that hard. we could just take linear weights/wRAA or something, determine how many of runs above average came from XBH, divide by total wRAA and adjust it to league SLG to make it easy to understand. that would solve most of the problems of the other stats we already have, and as far as i can tell, it would give exactly the right amount of credit to the various XBHs. thoughts?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
What's wrong with ISO?
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by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
A HR isn't just one base better than a triple...
especially when Tyler Greene could come to bat.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
the scale is confusing
and it’s not properly weighting the batting outcomes. basically the same thing that’s wrong with OPS
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Well it depends what we're trying to measure
OPS is ostensibly trying to measure total production, so linear weights is really the perfect alternative.
However, what are we trying to measure with “power”? You don’t just want to use linear weights, as that includes the on-base percentage aspect of each hit. A double is better than a single because a guy is more likely to score from second, but that seems rather irrelevant to the power aspect of it.
IMO, measuring total bases is a perfectly reasonable interpretation of what power means.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
well, adjusting walks out of it would be fairly easy
and if OPS is trying to measure total production, then SLG/ISO is trying to measure how much of that value is derived from power. so this would just be the linear weights equivalent of SLG. does that make sense?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Yeah it does
But I don’t see why you need to have a linear weights version of slugging.
Maybe you could adjust the linear weights to only measure the change in run’s immediately after the at bats, as opposed to the change in run expectancy. That would only give credit for the RBI value of a double, rather than the increased odds of a run happening after.
But that’s just as arbitrary for defining “power” as total bases is.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe life in general is arbitrary
i dunno
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
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