Jaime Garcia has been SCREWED

by Poop on Jun 15, 2011 2:50 PM EDT

Seemed to me that Jaime Garcia had been SCREWED out of more wins than anyone, so I decided to go through his games this year to check:

Starts = 14

Wins = 6, so we can ignore those

Losses = 2, one where he was awful against Colorado, and one where he was OK but Cards got Norrised.

No decisions = 6, and this is where the rubber hits the road.

April 9th, against SF -- Jaime pitches 6 beautiful innings - 1 run, 9 K -- Ryan Franklin implodes in 9th, giving up lead.

April 26th, against HOU -- Jaime runs into trouble in 6th but still leaves with a 3-2 lead, though the bases are loaded. Enter Miguel Batista, exit the lead, after a 2 run single to 1st batter he faces.

May 1st, against ATL -- Jaime leaves with a slim lead, which promptly disappears on an Albert Pujols error. Hard to blame bullpen for this one (though Franklin did lose it in 9th inning after a Theriot error, but that is a topic for another day!).

May 17th, against PHI -- Jaime gives up tying run in 8th after a Tyler Greene error

May 22nd, against KC -- this is a bad one. Jaime leaves in 6th inning, ahead 7-3 with a win expectancy of 91%. Enter Batista, who gives up double and homer. Tallet gives up homer in 7th and it is 7-6, then Sanchez finishes off the blown save by allowing another run to score in 7th inning. This game is almost dead ringer for last night's debacle, except Batista got pulled before he could do all the damage himself.

June 14th, against WSH -- fresh in eveyone's minds, Batista was the star in this blown saves, with 1st assist to Trevor (why walk someone when I can just hit them) Miller and 2nd assist to Jason Motte.

After doing the analysis, the main culprits are:

Miguel Batista --- single-handedly once, and playing a major role twice more
Ryan Franklin --- one noteworthy cough-up
defense -- key errors by Greene and Pujols (though not Theriot, how odd

In conclusion ... Jaime really should be 9-2, and could be 12-2. In which case he is definite All-Star and possible Cy Young candidate.

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Theriot's errors certainly HAVE played a role.

Jaime’s pitch count was driven up almost solely because of Theriot last night. It’s why we saw Batista in the 7th and not Jaime.

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by spants on Jun 15, 2011 2:54 PM EDT reply actions

this is why you need a good shortstop on a groundball inducing pitching staff

why don’t TLR and DD know this?

please, no more bullpen poetry
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 15, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions

False.

The grit acts as a magnet for ground balls.

by monkeysareblue on Jun 16, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

baseballs don't stick to magnets.

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by Tackle Box on Jun 16, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

Late 1800s, pitching wins statistic is created and is fucking dumb. Also popular in the late 1800s: Horses as daily transportation. Oil lamps. Lynching. Economic depression. H.G. Wells. Homesteads. Having less than 40 states in the union.

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by hazel on Jun 15, 2011 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs

True, but wins are sexy

Wins are what get you the All-Star game selection, Cy Young votes, and the hot chicks. And wins are what the bullpen and the defense have SCREWED Jaime out of. And it is not like pitching wins have no importance, you can’t get a win in a game your team loses, and team wins are sort of important, I think, even in 21st century.

by Poop on Jun 15, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions

felix hernandez

by all4tookie on Jun 16, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs

You're conflating the team's victory...

…with a rather silly stat cooked up to measure the contributions of a pitcher.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 16, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I still don't get the logic by which a starter has to throw five to get a win

but a reliever can throw a single pitch and pick up the win.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Jun 16, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions

Actually a reliever can throw zero pitches and get a win.

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by hazel on Jun 16, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions

This reasoning always makes me laugh

So close—-this pitcher’s record isn’t accurate because it involves a bunch of things out of his control, we need to adjust it!—-yet so far away—-we need to keep looking at a statistic that involves a bunch of things out of his control because it’s important and stuff, even though I recognize that it doesn’t really measure what it’s trying to measure in any way shape or form.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 16, 2011 4:43 AM EDT reply actions

With that horrendous outing in Colorado

and poor performance in Houston, I don’t think Jaime is even a top 5 Cy Young candidate right now even if he got the pitching “wins” other players cost him with their poor pitching, poor defense, and untimely hitting. The top 5 (not really in order, just off the top of my head) would have to be something like: Halladay, Hamels, Hanson, Marcum, and Kershaw.

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by bgh on Jun 16, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions

No Cliff Lee?

Seriously? SERIOUSLY?

Well, actually, that’s kinda defensible, but I think he should be in the top 5 due to being awesome. And 3rd in the NL in WAR.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 16, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

i have nothing to contribute other than the fact that the fanpost bar reads: "jaime garcia has been SCREWED by poop"

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on Jun 16, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs

for reference: top pitchers in the NL in xFIP

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=nl&qual=y&type=8&season=2011&month=0&season1=2011&ind=0

Jaime is 4th, behind three fifths of the Phillies rotation. i think that says it all right there.

Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.

by tehzachatak on Jun 16, 2011 5:43 PM EDT reply actions

Chris Carpenter has been kind of screwed too.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jun 17, 2011 8:53 AM EDT reply actions

Well yeah.

Carp has been fucked over more times than Rui’s mom. It’s unfortunately really because people keep insisting he’s fell of a cliff.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 17, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs