Busch Stadium III - A Visitor's Perspective
Hello again, fine populous of VEB. Back towards the end of April, I swung by and bombarded St. Louis locals with questions of food suggestions, activities, and general questions about Busch Stadium for a road trip I have recently completed. And many of you magnificently came through with lots of great suggestions, ideas and comments for me, to which I am grateful for. My trip wouldn't have been as fulfilling without your contributions. Thank you.
As promised, I return to VEB with a post full of pictures, stories, snarky remarks, lame attempts at humor, but in all, a visitor's perspective of Busch Stadium III, and my experience in the city of St. Louis, which encompassed June 5-6.
My journey began in Kingdom City, MO, where I stayed at a truly frightening roach motel, after spending the day prior, touring Kansas City, and having visited KC's Kauffman Stadium for a Royals game. I was convinced that I had been gnawed at throughout the night by bed bugs or something, based on some unsightly red spots on my skin I noticed in the shower that made me feel like I needed to take another shower. Considering my sheets had blood stains from the previous renters' probable murder, I guess I shouldn't have been too surprised.
Finishing my journey into St. Louis, I pulled off in Wentzville, MO, where I had a truly delicious breakfast of some massive pancakes. At my table, I caught a hint of just how great Cardinal Nation is, based on the little postcard at the table, creating awareness of the Albert Pujols Family Foundation, way out in Wentzville. Despite my allegiance to the Braves, I'm still a great admirer and admittedly, a fan of Albert Pujols; partially for the gaudy numbers that satiate even the most cynical of stat geeks, partially for the freakish stories of playing with a bum elbow and still hitting 51 homers or the 100% on the U.S. Citizenship test, but mostly for the simple fact that the guy's a saint. I still put a lot of weight into character, and if it were a tangible statistic, Pujols would be among baseball's all-time leaders at like 1.879 *still active, or something like that
After dumping rental car #1, and picking up rental car #2 (financial reasons), I headed over to the Loop, and went to Cicero's. There, I decided to not waste any time in getting into St. Louis flavors, so I ordered a STL-style pizza, and a pitcher of Schlafly (Weiss). Both were satisfying and tasty. But I didn't want to stay that long, because as had been the story of my trip, time was truly flying, and a Sunday day game wasn't making it any easier for my schedule.
I arrived to the vicinity of Busch, and parked somewhere near this bar. A year ago, I went to Wrigley Field for one of the Cards/Cubs series. Maybe it's the eclectic nature of Chicago, or simply the fact that red is simply a more vibrant color than the more muted blue is, but walking around, it's impossible to not take not of just how, well, red everything is surrounding Busch. Whereas last year, I couldn't help but notice how well Cards fans represented in rival territory, I couldn't say as much the same on the other side of the coin. There certainly were Cubs fans present in STL, but not nearly en masse as the Cards fans were in CHI. Maybe it was the two prior losses that chased them all away, not sure?
I like how outside of Busch are all the statues of like Ozzie Smith, and of course, Stan Musial. This says to me that even on days when there are no games, people can simply walk down the street and soak in a little bit of Cardinal history, free of charge.
Not going to lie, but I'm very much an admirer of just how pretty Busch is on the outside. Classic brick exterior, everything's clean, and despite being one of the newer parks in baseball, it doesn't feel like it's trying to be all new, hip, and modern. It still feels and looks classy, while seemingly having taken consideration to the little things that constitute a fan-friendly modern ballpark.
St. Louis' team store is one of the most bustling, busiest team stores that I've encountered in my travels. It's kind of cramped, especially for the type of demand they have, but they do manage to pack it full of all sorts of things baseball fans may or may not actually need, but hey it seems like a great idea at that time. Bonus points for the store not having any Cubs merch that I could see, because I discovered the day prior that Kansas City's team store was selling Minnesota Twins merch, which I found to be a disheartening.
This cardinal-man hybrid made me think of the old Sega Genesis game, Altered Beast, and I just wanted to share that thought with you guys.
Through friends of friends, I managed to score some sweet suite tickets for this game against the Cubs. Which was truly great, since it was pretty brutally warm on this particular afternoon, and it was nice to be able to simply retreat inside the suite and grab some suds, or just cool off a little bit.
I certainly do love me pretty skylines in ballparks, and if it were up to me, St. Louis's skyline is amongst the best. In fact, the NL Central seems to be the home of some of the best ones I've seen to this point, as I'm particular to both Pittsburgh's and Cincinnati's skylines. But St. Louis's is as marvelous as theirs are, with the incorporation of the iconic arch visible from pretty much all angles. Always been a fan of how pretty Busch has looked on television whenever the Braves were visiting, but it's even better in person.
When I found out that Carlos Zambrano was pitching, I pretty much said to my friends, that it's either implosion, or dominance. There is no middle ground with Carlos Zambrano. Unfortunately, he was pretty dominant on this day, but due to the outcome regardless, the implosion still happened in the locker room instead.
I often enjoy seeing how other parks do an out of town scoreboard, and I'm pleased to see just how much attention Busch gives to the other games in MLB. Throughout the afternoon, it was easy to monitor the Phillies and Marlins losing their respective games, much to my approval, in between innings of Zambrano and Carpenter doing good jobs of quickly mowing through the opposition.
I think this photograph I took of catching the Big Mac on the screen warrants a free Big Mac or something, but I had no idea of where I needed to go redeem for it, so it never happened. Regardless I would like to brag about how I accomplished it like it's some great feat.
Maybe I caught them on a good day, but it's good to see that St. Louis' token "don't call us cheerleaders" Team Redbirds cheer squad still employees the illusion of the girl next door that likes our favorite baseball team, as opposed to snobby, make-up caked, wanna-be America's Next Top Models like the Braves' Tomahawk Team has unfortunately become. Seriously, chatting to two of them while wandering about, I was amazed that they reciprocated conversation, instead of acting like getting to the next section of the ballpark in time was the fate of the planet. Refreshing, in fact.
As awesome as my suite seats were, I'm really not meant for exclusivity. Kind of like the Miller High Life guy, I want to be out among the people. That, and I found that Cardinal Nation comprises of probably the highest ratio of attractive women in baseball fandom, but the fact remains that after about the third or fourth inning, I spent the next few innings doing a good bit of walking around. Behold the obligatory field shot from the outfield.
Due to the two levels of luxury suites at Busch III, the park simply feels like one of the largest in the majors. I go all the way up to the upper decks, and then there are stairs to go even higher, which I did, to sample the view and the glorious breeze up top. Granted, it's obviously harder to see the higher you guy, but I'm hard pressed to believe that there isn't a bad seat available at Busch. It was a real treat to go around and see the park from the variety of angles.
I arrived to this part of the lower bowl, and I asked the usher if I could stop here and snap a few pictures of what appeared to be the game getting interesting. She told me that I could, but to not move until between outs.
Pujols slides home on an Allen Craig single, and suddenly the usher is forbidding me to leave. The Cards got on the board as soon as I arrived. I smiled and stayed the rest of the inning. It's wonderful to see that Busch has some ushers that actually like the Cardinals, and take some pride and may actually enjoy their jobs, as opposed to some other ushers I've seen in various parks who treat the duty like a job, and are obtuse enough to enforce approximate seating even in the most empty of venues.
Afterward, I made my way back to the suite, because I had pretty much walked around the entire park, and seen everything I pretty much wanted to see, and hey, there was an exciting game taking place. Not to mention that it was the seventh inning, and I really wanted to partake in at least two more Anheuser Busch products before the cut-off.
And sure enough, rarely do games on my travels truly end to any routine finish, and if there ever were a pitcher tailor-made to make games interesting, it's none other than Carlos Marmol. My favorite Marmol memory was a game in which he faced the Braves and then went walk, strikeout, walk, strikeout, walk, before giving up a bases-clearing, save-blowing, go-ahead triple to Rick Ankiel. Well, he didn't get as many walks as I would have hoped to have seen, but he did deliver the strikeouts. But he made up for the bore-fest by giving up the big double to Ryan Theriot which ended up being yet another blown save, and giving an adrenaline shot back into Cardinal Nation.
This is Rodrigo Lopez. I am very familiar with Rodrigo Lopez, because he was picked up by the Braves at the start of the 2011 season, and was sent to AAA. In all fairness, Rodrigo dominated the AAA competition, but my biggest gripe was that I made three efforts to see the Braves' AAA team, and on each time, I hoped I would get to see top-prospect Julio Teheran, but instead was a day too early, and ended up getting Rodrigo Lopez. He won all three of those starts, so as a fan, it was great to see some minor league wins, but come on, I went to see the future, not purgatory. A clause in his contract led to the Braves trading him to the Cubs, to where he stood on this day.
This is Rodrigo Lopez vs. Albert Pujols. Popular strategy for extra-inning games dictate taking the best of your remaining relievers, and using them in order of your best until you're left with Felipe Lopez or Wilson Valdez to take the mound, if the game is actually still going on. Considering Kerry Wood was still available, I was a bit puzzled as to why Rodrigo Lopez came out first.
This is Albert Pujols clobbering a 2-1 pitch into the left-center seats, and hitting his second walk-off home run in as many days. I honestly was not surprised.
And these are some jubilant walk-off celebration shots, as people all around me, as well as myself were going ballistic and giving high fives and screaming and cheering at the instantaneous, 0-to-100, cranked-up to 11 joy that a walk-off home run brings to the fans. The fact that it was Albert Pujols who hit the walk-off home run, in this magnificent ball park, brought a perfect end to what I look back at, was one of the greatest afternoons of watching baseball in my life.
As for the rest of my trip, I did a lot of exploring around St. Louis and the surrounding area. At the advice of many of you, I kept a rental car instead of relying on public transportation, which was probably the best piece of advice given, and as a result, I did a lot of driving around. St. Louis is a beautiful city, and a lot of aspects reminds me of Atlanta in some ways. There seems to be an obvious line in which the city becomes not quite so friendly, and there are areas that are pretty hipster, and areas that are kind of rustic and old-money-ish.
After the Cards game, I enjoyed a nice scotch and some iced coffee near Forest Park, and then I crossed the bridge into Illinois, and caught a Gateway Grizzlies game. At first, I thought it was silly to be going to an indy-league game, but the more I thought about it while watching, the more I realized that it was pretty special seeing guys grinding it out at the level lower than the minor leagues, hoping for a shot to catch on with an MLB affiliate.
It was also Star Wars night in Sauget, so there was a little bit of nerdy satisfaction in seeing park staffers dressed as various Star Wars characters that seemed all so gratifying.
But the biggest draw to Sauget was the supposed "Baseball's Best Nachos." Philly Cheese Steak Nachos, actually, and they were quite good. Would I call them the best nachos in baseball? I can't say I would. The best nachos I've had in my ballpark experiences have still been the nachos available from Hard Times Café in Nationals Park.
This isn't my rental car, but it was the car parked two spots away from me. Looks very much like one of the pop fly balls hit out during the game by lesser quality hitters. I couldn't imagine trying to explain to Alamo, that a foul ball hit my car, and if my premium covered it or not.
Leaving Sauget, GPS took me down some quite scary routes through East St. Louis. Needless to say, it's probably the last place on earth I'd want my car to ever break down.
As for the rest of my trip, I spent an extra day in STL, to one, sleep in, and two, do touristy crap, since I didn't really want to come out all the way and not see some touristy crap. That, and there was a lot of food yet to be eaten. Firstly was Pappy's Smokehouse, to where I arrived at 10:40 a.m. and there were already a few people waiting ahead of me. But I beat the rush, and had some truly delicious ribs and brisket.
Because it would have felt un-American to not do it while out at St. Louis, I went up the Arch. I didn't have the slightest clue how the ferrying of people up into the top would actually happen, and was a little surprised when it turned out to be some sci-fi escape space pods elevatored up to the top. I made sure to include Busch Stadium in this shot.
I figured there would be some dispute to whether how authentic Cicero's pizza would be, so I made sure to hit up an oft-suggested Imo's for a pie. Certainly gooier than what I had eaten prior, given the fact that many had heeded "it's an acquired taste," I sure ate it without any prejudice. Prior to this trip, I didn't really know that there was such a thing as St. Louis style, but if Imo's is kind of what they're all like, I suppose I'm a fan of St. Louis style pizza too
Later in the evening, I dined at Blueberry Hill. To be honest, if there was ever a mistake I made while out in STL, it was having Blueberry Hill as the last meal of the trip, because it's not what I would have called ending on a high note. The food was fine, the burger good. I got amusement out of the numerous toy cases of Mr. Fuji and old WWF wrestling collectibles, classic Wurlitzers, and the dart room. But 40 minutes for a hamburger and onion rings is pretty absurd, and the hipster staff must have deemed me not cool enough to attempt to make remotely satisfied.
The rest of my night was spent losing money at an insanely rapid pace at Harrah's, because apparently out in the Midwest, blackjack dealers play 4.5 decks deep, and are allowed to keep hitting past five cards, and never, ever, ever bust.
But overall, my experience at Busch Stadium, and my experience in the city of St. Louis were absolutely phenomenal. I watched a terrific baseball game at a wonderful ball park, ate a ton of good food, and enjoyed the sights and exploration of a historic city. Busch III makes #20 out of the 30 MLB parks for this traveler, and I've had a week to think about it, but it still holds true; out of all National League parks, I would have to say that Busch Stadium III is my favorite. Take bonus pride in the fact that it pushes Wrigley Field to #2.
The kind of trip and experience I had probably could have made a neutral, undecided-allegiance baseball fan into a legitimate Cardinals fan. For what it's worth, I can't really refute the claims that Cardinals fans are the best in baseball, and I can say it's been an honor to have been in the house of Cardinal Nation for a game. The fans are all knowledgeable and polite, the girls are pretty, the staff friendly and genuine, and the park itself is charming, convenient, and full of pleasant sights.
And on that note, I conclude this long and winded visitor's perspective. Thanks again to everyone who fed me suggestions and ideas of where to go, what to see, and places to eat. And thanks also to everyone who stuck it out and read through my ramblings and enjoyed my pictures. All comments, critiques, discussion and flames welcome. Thanks again.
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Wow. Thanks for coming back and posting that huge write up.
The Sunday game in these weekend rivalry series tends to be a bit muted for the visiting team. A lot of people have to make their way home by then to be ready for work on Mon.
Very cool that you took in an Grizzlies game too. I haven’t been, but Rascals games in St. Charles (in the same indy league as the Grizziles) are always fun.
A shame about Blueberry Hill. I tend to get indifferent service there too. The fun part is sitting outside and people-watching. You probably noticed that The Loop is prime people-watching turf.
The whole “Best fans in baseball” thing makes many of us here wince. Glad to know that you think we’re at least in the running.
Very glad that you enjoyed your stay. Ya’ll come back now, ya hear?
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 15, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions
In all honesty
I have a great admiration and respect for Cardinals fans. I’ve run into many throughout my travels (LA, DC, Chicago) and whenever the Cards come to Atlanta, and everyone’s been friendly, and most importantly, not moronic. It was nice to see that such behavior seems to be the status quo at the home park too.
I can’t blame you or anyone else for the cautionary defensiveness of such a title, but as far as I’m concerned, I see Cardinals fans among my highest regards.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
I still think
this is an undercover Cub’s fan.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 19, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Shame about Blueberry Hill.
I’ve always found it incredibly overrated. But I’m glad the rest of your trip rocked.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
I like it for lunch but would never consider it a destination place.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Now that you mention it, I don't think I've ever been there other than for lunch.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 15, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I kind of got that vibe too
The first few times passing by, but I committed, and reserved judgment until my own experience, and yeah, I concur, it’s pretty overrated. I have to imagine that there were at least two other places in the Loop that I think I would have enjoyed more than Blueberry Hill, but if I have my way, there will most certainly be a next time in the future.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
I've only gone there
to see Chuck Berry play. A friend of mine (who loves Berry’s music) was talking about him as though he were no longer among the living, so I surprised him with some tickets to see one of his monthly shows there.
Went for lunch on New Year’s day once and thought little of the kitchen.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
They should really rename it
where chuck berry plays when he needs money or isn’t in a shitty mood
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Next time: City Museum
Trust me on this one. And Ted Drewe’s Frozen Custard on Chippewa, just for the quintessential STL summer experience.
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
yea...no one should have recommended blueberry hill
ciceros is fine but there are better suggestions but i guess seeing that part of town is worth it
city museum and ted drewes i would agree
by guillermozeliak on Jun 16, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Ted Drewes is an absolute must.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the great write up.
I really enjoyed hearing about a lot of places I know so well from an outsider’s perspective.
BTW, yeah Kingdom City is pretty much designed for truckers, not habitable living accomodations. You might have spent a bit more, but you should have stopped in Columbia about 20 miles before.
I think we'll reconcile it by winning!
-Kim English
As I passed through Columbia
I was all like “yeah, I got this in the bag, I’m not tired.”
And then in 10 minutes, I hit the wall, and the hour I gained from EST to CST in the morning, and the Gates BBQ set in, and I realized that I had to stop. Kingdom City happened to be there.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
thanks for sharing
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 54
Our days were almost exactly alike
the gf and I hit the Cards and Grizzlies games that day. If I’m in the loop I much prefer Fitz’s or the Melting Pot over blueberry hill.
As far as gambling is concerned, and I’m no expert, but it seems to me the casino queen has some pretty solid odds. Only played there a few times, won my cash and GTFO. Lumiere can be a cool place to go too, especially if you plan on hitting the landing afterwords. I’m glad you enjoyed your trip, and thanks for the writeup
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See
To me Melting Pots are overrated, and way expensive for what you pay for. Furthermore, there are like four in Atlanta, and that goes against my rule of eating things I can get here. There were at least a few places in the Loop that I would’ve loved to have gone to, but there’s only so much room in one man’s stomach to pull off.
I really wanted to try a Casino boat, and there supposedly is that one outside of the Lumiere. But I guess it’s remnants of the tornadoes or some bad storms, because the entrance was flooded over, and it appeared to be shut down. So I did wander into the Lumiere, and if it were any place other than downtown, I would’ve called it an eyesore. I’m very much a touch and feel kind of gambler, and I didn’t like the cliched feeling I was getting from the place, so I just helped myself to some free fountain drinks, and left. Shows how much that helped because I had a better feeling about Harrah’s, and got reamed.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
THe melting pot in the loop is special
I’ve been to the few we have in the stl area, and the one on delmar has something special about it. I’ll go out for chocolate and cheese with the ladyfriend and we have a blast. I’m a little bit younger (21) so the landing has some attractive options for me, though it can get a little crazy from time to time. If you’re there strictly to gamble, the Casino Queen is the place to be IMHO. $1.25 domestic drafts don’t hurt either. Plus, you can take your winnings to one of the gentlemen’s clubs right down 64 if you’re into a hangover-esque night :p
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lol
I tried the Casino Queen, and bled out to death. Lose five straight hands, double down and win. Lose five straight hands, double-down, and win. After about an hour, I finally ran out of money. That, and the dealers at Casino Queen just look and act so miserable. I know it’s East St. Louis, but I’m a talkative gambler, I like my dealers with personality, not looking like they owe someone a lot of money and are wishing for people to tip them so they can pay back.
For the matter, I kind of bombed at every STL casino I tried. I count cards and play basic strategy, but they were all owning me. I doubt I try again if/when I come back.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
kill your GPS
before it kills you
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 16, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
fantastic fanshot!
glad you got a chance to see a GREAT game. interesting to see some of your travels in the city, will have to explore more in the future.
p.s. the altered beast comment and accompanying super weird picture cracked me up
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions
+1
judging by his skinny arms, he could use a POWER. UP.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 17, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
please, no more bullpen poetry
my blog
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the write-up and pix.
Even though I live far from STL, I consider Busch to be my home ballpark and it is interesting to hear how fans of other teams perceive it.
by cardsgirl95 on Jun 18, 2011 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This was awesome
You sure got the audience’s favor with those gleaming compliments. But the content goes way beyond just saying “St. Louis is cool and the Cardinals are cool and Busch Stadium is cool.” You ever had to guts to call out Blueberry Hill, a local shrine of sorts, on its faults. I love the place anyway.
Well done!
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
"even had the guts", not "ever had the guts"
Good to see that with my time away from VEB recently, I haven’t lost my knack for a startlingly high typo-to-post ratio…
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Appreciate the kind words
The thing with my trips is that I wouldn’t say baseball is secondary, but I put a good amount of importance on the experience of enjoying the host city, food, touristy stuff, and other various random factors. If the game itself happens to be awesome (which it was), and the park really impresses me (which it did), then it really pushes the entire trip experience to even better.
Blueberry Hill was a recommendation I wouldn’t have known about until suggested here, and I liked the website and identity, but yeah, it just didn’t impress me one bit, where it counted the most.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
It's more of an "atmosphere" or "experience" or "cool place to hang out" with a bar and a menu, rather than a restaurant.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
i couldn't wait to stop reading this
just so i could rec it. not for the complimentary nature, but the effort put into it. especially for a rivals’ blog. many kudos to you,royhobbs.
Start a fire for a man, keep him warm for a night. Light a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life.
I enjoy this even more after seeing:
your work with other blogs that you have posted onto. I live in KC, so I went to Royals’ Review and saw yours over there – also very complimentary of the K. However, the one on RR linked to the review of The Cell on the south side of Chi-Town, and you really do tell it how you see it. I appreciate this review that much more knowing you don’t really sugar-coat.
Thanks, again.
Thanks
It’s very much appreciated that you took the time to look beyond my experience with just St. Louis. The Cell trip is like the barometer that not everything is so pandering and sugar-coated, if it simply doesn’t warrant it.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Question:
Have you been to the former Busch Stadium? If so, which one did you like better?
I like them both but (I may be in the minority here) I liked our old one better.
Nice job and great effort in this post. Thanks for your work. It’s nice to see ourself from the outside.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 19, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions
Busch II post-renovation was great
although I only got to go there once, I was very surprised how much improved it was. not that it was bad before, but they did a great job of renovating. which means I was also greatly surprised when they announced the new one. that said, I am very pleased with the openness and comfort of Busch III. I was skeptical until I went, but I like it just as much or more than Busch II
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 19, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately no
I didn’t decide that I wanted to visit as many ballparks as I could until about 2007, and I didn’t really get the idea to engage other SBN blogs until 2008, when I realized that with no family or reliable friends out in Southern California, I’d have absolutely no idea of what to do, eat, see when hitting up LAD/LAA/SDP in consecutive days. What better people to ask than local baseball fans?
That being said, I’ve never been to the Busch II, nor have I been to some other iconic stadiums before their demise, like Shea or old Yankee, let alone their new replacements. So I make a point to try to visit retiring parks, regardless of how crappy they may be, like the Nationals old RFK, the Twins’ baggydome, and next month, whatever the Marlins are calling Dolphin Stadium this year.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
fantastic post
Makes me want to do a similar thing here in DC. Although, admittedly, after the last series for STL here I might not be so nice. Shake Shack lines at the stadium ain’t right. But its always good to see something written by what I can tell is a real fan of baseball.
if I am not mistaken
royhobbs was the reason I first joined the Braves SBN site. Something about his ability to know that Pujols was a baseball deity.
Yeah, DC has some bad memories for me as well
But I’m originally from Northern Virginia, so I have a little bit of a bias which would cloud a lot of my attempted objectivity. But my first time visiting new Nationals Park, the Braves got swept in a series that saw an extra-innings walk-off walk in one game, and an Atlanta bullpen meltdown in the next.
But in regards to the Shake Shack and all the new food options, it’s good timing for now, but if the Nationals fall back to the cellar, not even those will be able to bring people in. But good timing to debut a lot of that during a Cardinals series as well as the return of Ryan Zimmerman.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Thanks for the quality write-up.
After reading the one that you wrote on your experiences at US Cellular, I appreciate Busch III that much more. Also, what is with the disturbing and completely misplaced machismo from the Sox fans to your post? Perhaps they could use a few barbiturate dispensers in that stadium.
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss?"
-The Diz
I like to use The Cell experience
As a very good example of those not actually really reading the words, and coming to their own conclusions, and then the ensuing piling on, if one reputable member starts a snowball effect. Either way, I got a tremendous amount of amusement out of it all, and would honestly give it a redux when I someday go back; I like Chicago, and it would be a travesty to visit the city and not see some live baseball whether it’s north or south side.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
well done, although it was a little heavy on the praise for the fans
i never met anyone at Busch II who i’d call “knowledgeable” friendly&polite? yes, drunk? most certainly, hooser? very much so, but far from knowledgeable.
i find it also very odd you think there’s a lot of attractive women at the park. maybe things at Busch III are different that Busch II but i never saw that many attractive women at the park. i get that times have changed & maybe now there are, i just never saw that many. also i can’t believe they are better looking than the women in the ATL. everyone knows the South has the best looking women on the planet. but whatevs.
also you must have caught the ushers on a good day because i’ve never heard one person say one good thing about the ushers. normally they are referred to as nazi’s & aholes who are on power trips. maybe that’s changing too & if so good for the Cards.
again thanks for the write up & i’m glad you had fun. great pics btw.
Balls
wow,
never met a knowledgeable or polite fan? just hoosiers & drunks? and no good looking women?
you must be spending the entire game in the men’s room. You have a point about some of the ushers though, but I wouldn’t label them all that way.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 23, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
have you met gdm? he's our resident "that glass is half-empty and the rest is full of piss" contrarian.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
so I see!
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 24, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
seems to be a common denominator.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
contrarian? i'm not pissing on anyone's fun here, i specifically said i'm glad he had a great time
i haven’t been so lucky. big f’ing deal, is that really a shock to anyone? i’m not ripping him or saying he’s lying about what happened. i’m not saying my experiences are the only kind you’ll ever have there. i’m genially happy for the dude that the city & park put on it’s best face for him. with all the bad news about crime & murders in the city it’s nice to hear stories like his.
Balls
help!
ryan franklin has hacked gdm’s account!
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 29, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no, i've never been to Busch III, only II
i always sat in the yellow seats out in LF to the left of Big Mac land. slim pickins man, very slim pickins. maybe down in the lower bowls with all the rich folk there’s a better clientèle, but up there it’s nothin but fat, drunk, wave startin hoosiers
Balls
Coming from a person who goes to games a good amount,
i can say that i see several attractive females per visit. There’s usually one that everyone looks at and several others that you don’t mind looking at.
As for the wave, that still goes on. It went on in the eighth inning the last game I was at when we were losing with THE OTHER TEAM batting. That drives me nuts. I don’t get doing the wave when the other team is batting.
It’s like rooting for the other team. I don’t get the wave in general and have stopped participating in it, but I can at least grasp why you do it if your team is batting. The other team though? And that happens everytime we are losing I feel like.
/End rant.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 28, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
from my observations
the wave always starts full force when we’re losing and the other team is batting and killing us – because people are bored
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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