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West Coast Pre-Gamethread Appetizer: Albert Pujols & the St. Louis Cardinals Triple Crown

Albert Pujols swatted his eighth home run of the 2011 season last night, bringing him to within three of team-leading Lance Berkman who has knocked eleven over the wall so far this season. Driving in himself with the solo home run, Pujols upped his season RBI tally to 26, five behind the second-place Matt Holliday and nine behind the team-leading Berkman. Heading into tonight's game, Pujols has a batting average of .268, which places him eighth on the Cardinals behind David Freese (.356), Holliday (.349), Berkman (.341), Jon Jay (.329), Yadier Molina (.324), Ryan Theriot (.297), and Colby Rasmus (.282).

For a player often making a run at the National League Triple Crown--indeed, Pujols finished first in the league in home runs and RBI last season--it is an indication of the sluggish start for the slugging superstar that he finds himself trailing his teammates in every one of the Triple Crown statistical categories. This season Pujols finds himself in uncharted territory. Literally, no St. Louis Cardinals chart listing the team leaders in BA, HR, or RBI has ever had him lower than second place, and that only happened once, in the MV3 '04 season of myth and legend, when Scott Rolen bested him in total RBI by just one. Pujols's consistency never ceases to amaze, but his place atop the team totals further increases its impressiveness. A breakout season by JD Drew was not better than Pujols as a rookie, none of Jim Edmonds's great home run seasons bested Pujols, others hitting behind him did not produce more RBI for that hitter save once.

YEAR

AVG.

HR

RBI

2001

.329 (1)

37 (1)

130 (1)

2002

.314 (1)

34 (1)

127 (1)

2003

.359 (1)

43 (1)

124 (1)

2004

.331 (1)

46 (1)

123 (2*)

2005

.330 (1)

41 (1)

117 (1)

2006

.331 (1)

49 (1)

137 (1)

2007

.327 (1)

32 (1)

103 (1)

2008

.357 (1)

37 (1**)

116 (1)

2009

.327 (1)

47 (1)

135 (1)

2010

.312 (1***)

42 (1)

118 (1)

 

*In 2004, Scott Rolen had 124 RBI.

**In 2008, Ryan Ludwick also hit 37 HR.

***In 2010, Matt Holliday also hit for a .312 average.

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And the first Colby-Schumaker-Greene for beurhle

Suggestion if the year located here

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 24, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

*of

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on May 24, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was dumb

I’m sorry I read that.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 24, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Yes it was

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 24, 2011 8:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ugh

my head hurts now.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 24, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's so scary when Pujols is sucking

It’s like the meaning of “true” is in jeopardy

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't have to procrastinate anymore.
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11

by hr on May 24, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I think you meant

“lower than first place”.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on May 24, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

is it possible to DELETE tweets?

i’m reading these tweets from this reporter, which are just wrong, then i check my facts, then go to tweet him to correct him, and the tweets are gone…

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on May 24, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Tweet and Retweet were in a boat

Tweet fell out.
Who was left?

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 24, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

lineup

per FSMidwest
#Cardinals 5/24- Theriot 6, Jay 8, Pujols 3, Berkman 7, Craig 9, Schumaker 4, Cruz 2, Descalso 5, McClellan 1 vs Harang

by Lambtron on May 24, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

hopefully no more stomach ills

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 24, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

does he have crappy numbers against Harang or something?

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 24, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not at all.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 24, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

career v. harang in 15 ABs

4/15 = .267 /.353 /.533 with a HR and a double.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on May 24, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, that's not it then

I got nothing.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 24, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easing him back in?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost every quote I have read or heard from TLR talks about batting average.

In the field manager’s mind, Rasmus may have bad numbers against Harang because of his .267 BA.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 24, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the crap is this lineup

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 24, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

is holliday really that injured?

i haven’t heard any updates.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on May 24, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's out a couple more days

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out til August.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's that goddamn cursed middle infield

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 24, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-5, we need you

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions

by jd is legend on May 24, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

kyle mcclellan does not think this lineup is funny. at all.

count the plus defenders . . . . okay, that didn’t take long.

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on May 24, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

3?

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 24, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds right.

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on May 24, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

shut it, you...

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 24, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday is unable to play the field tonight.

Berkman is a poor outfielder, but Craig has been average-to-above-average according to UZR. My guess is that TLR likes his defense in RF better than Berkman’s defense in RF.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 24, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before and after picture of the Joplin tornado...

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on May 24, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

actually, the streetview has the wrong address


Here is the real “before” picture with the right address. Via reddit

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't have to procrastinate anymore.
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11

by hr on May 24, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like Joplin was air-bombed.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 24, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

There aren't many bombs that could do that.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

erm

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 24, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know of one that can make trees on that many blocks disappear.

that’s it.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I was fucking unaware of that.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

*you're

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 24, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, when we talk about weapons, you go by quanity of style, not quantity of amount

There are a handful of Lightweight, Magazine-fed, Gas-operated, Air-cooled, Shoulder-fired weapons in the world, even though millions exist.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 24, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do YOU know

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

belt fed......but man I wish I had one of these/

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

They overheat too easily.

I can get the job done a lot faster with a mark 19.

Although the m-203 under my m-16 was my favorite weapon ever.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

TBH....

I’d be perfectly happy with a WWII BAR.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys, guys

There’s a perfectly good section of 4chan for posting pictures of awesome guns and talking about them.
Just kidding, I find this stuff interesting. I just googled m-203 because I really wanted to know what the hell Fritz was talking about.

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 24, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

when you're not doing anything, you stack your rifles into a little tee-pee formation

the 203 runied a many smoke break.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

um...

that’s not Lightweight, Magazine-fed, Gas-operated,or Shoulder-fired. Though it is Air-cooled.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 24, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no, I'm thinking outside the box now.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

that A2 is nothing but quality

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 24, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's lightweight when compared to a howitzer.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 24, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

reply fail.

supposed to be up one line.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 24, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And this picture looks just like a nuke went off

seeing as how there’s that crater of radioactive glass in the middle of the neighborhood now.

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 24, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it's pretty nuts

Even the sky is all dark and nuclear-holocausty.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 24, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh my God.

simply devastating.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on May 24, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that surprising

after having seen videos of the tornado. It honestly looked like one of the most frightening things I’ve ever seen.

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on May 24, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its awesome how the comments are all about whether or not God exists

And not even in like a nihilistic conversational kind of way (IE, why would God cause a catastrophe) – one person said people should pray, and jerkwads fought about that.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 24, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-1 phillies

it’s funny to listen to thom brennaman’s woe is me tone when they fall behind, reminds me of dan in our own dark stretches

by LukeMP1186 on May 24, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

it is very very odd to see Pujols not even 2nd or 3rd best hitter on the St. Louis Cardinals

what the hell is going on, Albert

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 24, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

he hit a couple of balls very hard last night

hopefully he’s turning it around, though that wouldn’t be the first time I said that this season.

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on May 24, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

everytime he gets a hit, dan and al postulate "maybe this is where he turns it around"

i don’t think he’s going to turn it around. i think we are going to see a mediocre season from pujols. not mediocre by his standards. just mediocre.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on May 24, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's just magically going to fall of a cliff like he has so far though

I think he will come close enough to where we speculate it was just a down year, not a .270 average hitting Pujols that is literally from Point A to Point D in the hitting scale.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on May 27, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why did Erubiel Durazo retire?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe you may be asking the wrong question.

How is it that Erubiel Durazo is still playing?
In what leauge is Erubial Durazo playing?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 24, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, man. He had 5 really, really good offensive seasons from ages 25-30

Had a down year at 31, and then never played in the Majors again

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had a few great seasons,

but isn’t he nearing 40?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 24, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, he is NOW

I was just wondering if anybody on VEB knew why he retired

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember seeing his name mentioned long ago, when I was just starting to learn about this internet baseball fandom thing

He was kind of enigmatic.

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 24, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or seemed so at the time

Lots of mentions of “moneyball” too I think.

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 24, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard...

I guess I shouldn’t say this. It’s…it’s…just rumor. Gossip really. You know how rumors get out of control. Ah, to heck with it, I’ll tell you. I heard a rumor that after OPSing’ .600 or so for the A’s that Billy Beane, Mr. Moneyball himself, cast Durazo out. Only Beane wanted players like Durazo back then so no one else picked him up. Durazo wound up down in the Mexican League. Well, that’s when it happened. Word is he came across a Cuban. Name of Cazana or some such. That’s who did it, they say. As for what happened, well, that’s where it gets cloudy. There are all kinds of stories. Some say the sky opened up. Others say the ground. There’s even another story of a tidal wave. However it happened, Durazo is gone.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 24, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Some say the world will end in fire

Some say in ice
From what I’ve read of baseball
It’s totally Amaury Cazana

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 24, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it looks like the meta have mentioned Zach wheeler

In their “talks” with the giants. You can kiss away the idea of getting Reyes without giving up Shelby

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 24, 2011 8:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Can't be traded, I don't think

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a year from when he signed

Not when he was drafted

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 24, 2011 8:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So the game starts soon right

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

today for sure

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on May 24, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is wrong with you

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now whose fault is that, fang

Don’t take it out on the Cards that you’re a lazy POS

Skip Schumaker would be disappointed in you

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

it happens.

plus this being night #2 of late games. at least it’s 2/2 instead of 2/3.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 24, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

tomorrow is day game?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on May 24, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a weird time for a game.

at least it won’t interfere with me going to the gym at a normal hour.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on May 24, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...

it would be really awesome if it was on thursday instead of wednesday.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 24, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's an old Padres trick.

They want to start the game as late as possible, but have a day game. The MLB specifies that a “day Game” mast start by x time(without looking it up, I would guess 4 local.) This meets the rules of a day game, and give more people a chance to get to the game than if they started it at noon is their reasoning.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weird that they would go through so much trouble

I always was told that San Diego is a really laid back place.

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 24, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

STFU

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 24, 2011 8:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

old????

Don’t fucking even start to tell me you’re old.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 24, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know if nexdef'd

But Skip Schumaker workout video. Like, really.

Here you go

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

ClemsonGirl perfers California Dreams to Saved By The Bell.

Don’t get me started.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it feels different my guess is just the annoyingly late start again

I’m ready for a baseball game! Even VEB can only playfully BS about stuff for so long.

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 24, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And now, the dramatic conclusion of the garlic dippy melt issue.
@boxcar_fritz @theroyale you guys still have the garlic dippy melt on the menu?
@mvemjsunp @boxcar_fritz hell yea they do
@theroyale @boxcar_fritz yep
@boxcar_fritz @theroyale gracias.

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by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL @ whichever matty it was

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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

more than life itself.

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by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Eh.

Depends. $10-ish to $15.

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by spants on May 25, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Decent attendance, killing the NL, serious chance to go to the post season and go deep into it, lots (and lots) of injuries.

Also, Cincy and Milwaukee aren’t bad teams.

Does anyone else think that Mo is going to get a gamechanger before the deadline?

inb4 its too early to tell

yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man

by sociopath on May 24, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

We always get a game changer...

and this year we’ve got pieces to deal. Big league bats, minor league arms with upside… I’m thinking Reyes or maybe Latos for a boatload of guys.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 24, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that was my first and only reference to your mother

will never happen again

yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man

by sociopath on May 24, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you're only going to do it once

then do it right.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 24, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

2nd, 3rd, SS, SP, CL

all badly need upgrades.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 24, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was thinking MIF and Bullpen

how nice would it be to have a shutdown closer.

yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man

by sociopath on May 24, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Salas is perfectly cromulent

(Did I use that right, Fritz?)

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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I'm not Fritz, but I think I have a decent handle on cromulency

And that was a good use of cromulent.

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by mattybobo on May 24, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel that it was merely adequatulant.

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by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

he embiggens me.

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by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

2B, SS, CL, SP

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 24, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The manner in which the organization addressed 2B and SS this offseason,

combined with the field manager’s focus on batting average and apparent lack of focus on defense, suggest to me that no MIF move will be made in-season. I’m not saying that we are not in need of an upgrade at SS—we are—but I’m saying I don’t think that the organization believes that.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 24, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

they seem to believe in theriot, and more than they did in boog, which pisses the majority of cards fans off. especially since us cards fans know we were right in saying theriot was a worse SS.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 24, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

pissed of the minority of cards fans.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 24, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmm....reyes.

’course we are giving him crawford money, right?
Maybe Latos wants in and really did invite Lohse over for vidya games.

yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man

by sociopath on May 24, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

One factor

Our home attendance seems to be down compared to recent years, which may result in a reluctance to open up DeWallet, or that’s what the FO may claim.

by bailorg on May 24, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anybody on twitter have more swag than darrenrovell

I vote no

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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

So who texted me at 2am last night

about when Pujols was drafted and when Mike Piazza was drafted.

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by azruavatar on May 24, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

awesome.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously,

I refuse to believe this is a random wrong number text. I was super pissed because I had to get up, get out of bed and check baseball-reference to make sure I was right.

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by azruavatar on May 24, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Were you right?

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by mattybobo on May 24, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your initial comment made me grin,

and this second comment made me laugh out loud. Please elaborate further. This is awesome.

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by bgh on May 24, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phone # (217)-XXX-9042

So it’s a northern IL number but not one that I have stored in my phone. Text reads:

I’m sorry if ur asleep. What round was pujols picked? Im thinking 13th & when did he move from LF to 1B? Also what round was mike piazza picked.

I knew the first (13th round) and second (2004) questions about Pujols but I thought Piazza was a much higher draft pick than he actually was. I would have said 3rd round. Not so much.

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by azruavatar on May 24, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

IIRC, it was something like the 1200th pick.

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by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

1390

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by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

62nd round????!!!

wow.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 24, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got to be the lowest pick to have the kind of success he had.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats not northern, is it? I thought that was S-Field

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's from just south of Effingham to up past Springfield and Champaign.

basically all of central IL.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 24, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

.........

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by jd is legend on May 24, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

North of me but not way north of me. I know lots of 309 numbers, fewer 217 numbers but who would text me this shit at 2am.

I did not text them back. Instead I went back to bed in smug self satisfaction.

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by azruavatar on May 24, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best comment in this thread

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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

From past VEBers, Liam or Flavius if they have your number.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

(not liam. just checked.)

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither of them have my number.

I think Liam and I said all of 5 words to each other at the last VEB day.

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by azruavatar on May 24, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

309!!!

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

256 motherfuckers

my area code never gets dropped in rap songs :(

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by jd is legend on May 24, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

573, yo

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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

and i’m in jefferson city

by cschepers on May 24, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

RO-TOWN ALL UP IN HERE

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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tommy Lasorda's god son.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, just looked it up

Lasorda is actually Mike’s brother’s godfather. Mike’s dad was a childhood friend of Lasorda’s.
So, otherwise, he wouldn’t have even been drafted.

by adiueordie on May 24, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anything that happened pre-2003

is news to me. I am not a baseball historian. In fact, I mostly hate baseball history. I’m more of a current events guy.

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by azruavatar on May 24, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yay, someone like me

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't have to procrastinate anymore.
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11

by hr on May 24, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would almost admit to this just for the fun of it.

But it wasn’t me.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 24, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

I just laughed so loud my roommate came in

by FlimtotheFlam on May 24, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do that sometimes

Then my fiancee asks me what’s so funny

And then I tell her “Oh just a stupid internet thing. Don’t worry about it”

Then she implores further

And then I tell what was funny

And then says “Oh” and goes back to what she was doing

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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is wrong with you

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless you piss a woman off the same way

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 24, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll have a Simpons scene randomly pop in my head and start LOLing once a week or so.

Some people have gotten used to it and don’t ask anymore, others just think I’m insane. Either way, as long as they don’t talk to me, it’s cool.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of my friends from college and I randomly surprise each other with Simpsons quote text messages

It’s pretty much a mark of shame if the other guy can’t complete the next line.

For example, he’ll text me, “What about us braindead slobs?” with no warning, and I’m expected to quickly respond “You’ll be given cushy jobs!”

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by mattybobo on May 25, 2011 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

wait, so you didn't want me to post your cell phone number in the game threads?!?

/doesn’t actual know azru’s number.

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on May 24, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is Nick Cafardo?

And, why am I following him on Twitter?

He just tweeted a bunch of nonsensical stuff.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 24, 2011 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Boston writer, IIRC

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by azruavatar on May 24, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Figures

He just tweeted this:

Had Manny Acta 26th in my preseason managerial rankings. Would have to say he’s in the top 15 now. Has done a great job guiding the #Indians

1) Who keeps a preseason managerial ranking?
2) Manny Act has climbed from the bottom tenth to the top half. Great to know. Thanks. You have just to proven how silly preseason managerial rankings are.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 24, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think preseason managerial ranking

would be who good you think the managers are before you start the season.

I don’t see what’s wrong with having that list. It’s just like having a list of best first basemen in the preseason. I’d imagine that Pujols would have been #1 on most people’s list. Isn’t any more.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 24, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfollowed. Problem resolved.

Must be a hot stove holdover follow. Who keeps a preseason managerial ranking and then tweets about it during the month of May?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 24, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's no darrenrovell

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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you purge every month or so, too?

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by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not healthy for you

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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not every month.

It’s more seasonal or event-based.

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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 24, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

by narvy or agin him?

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on May 24, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

narveson is an interesting guy. he joins the daric barton club of intriguing former cards prospects

who may be on the verge of actually performing or may never make it, but who hang around for a frustratingly long time.

his swinging strike numbers this year are amazing. he managed to be the lone survivor from the pile of mess behind gallardo in 2009 and 2010. he will probably never really figure it out, but he has enough going on not to give up on him while he’s free and there’s nobody pushing him from behind.

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on May 24, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

so a dead thread

but I was always irrationally rooting for him. I suppose because he’s a lefty.

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by lordsummer on May 26, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

michael morse hit one against him

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't have to procrastinate anymore.
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by hr on May 24, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hart homered again...

dude is on fire.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 24, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

poop

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 24, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

son of a whore

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 24, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the phrase "son of a whore"

that’s a Chris Farley line IIRC

"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
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by Hootie Who on May 24, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce has been hitting pretty well this past week-ish

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 24, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last 30 days

1.055 OPS, 10 HR

I’d say it’s been more than the last week.

by mojowo11 on May 24, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

So.

You guys have been busy today.

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by The Continental on May 24, 2011 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

the opposite of that, really.

which led to this.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have been super busy at work, yet have managed to follow the VEB threads, for the most part

i even got some tweets in.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on May 24, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

you gotta feel bad for jorge de la rosa.

poor guy.

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on May 24, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on May 24, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll go under the knife...

and the wound heals. But the scar, that scar remains.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 24, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you gotta feel bad for my fantasy team.

poor me.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on May 24, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cordero in...

been getting some pub about how much better he seems. Meltdown gotta be coming.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 24, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

apologies if nexdef'd

Braun ejected for slamming helmet. Lost a 13-game hitting streak.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 24, 2011 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

This could have been the one!

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by mysterui on May 24, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok so TNT comes back from commerical early and

camera guy checking out chicks zooming in on boobs

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on May 24, 2011 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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