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The St. Louis Cardinals win the first leg of the I-70 Series; Meanwhile, Kyle McClellan Searches for His Effective Curveball

And just like that the I-70 Series was upon us. Interleague kicked off with a trip west to Kansas City, for the annual conquering of the Kauffman Stadium stands by Cardinal fans clad in their battle red. Royal blue and powder blue were but dots in a sea of red--and a fair share of the powder-blue were St. Louis fans in their eighties throwback finest. Chants of "Let's go Roy-als!" were quickly drowned out by "Let's go Card-inals!" 

I was fortunate enough to slip away, down to Kansas City for Friday and Saturday's games. The weather was absolutely perfect for baseball. Disappointed as a I was with the result of Friday night's fast-paced pitchers duel, my up-close seat on Saturday gave me a wonderful view of Matt Holliday crushing a homer, providing all the runs the Cards would need with one fell swat. After losing 0-3 on Friday and winning 3-0 on Saturday, the series run differential fittingly sat at zero.

These are not the Royals of the aughts, even if they very much resembled those cellar-dwelling clubs of yore in the early going of Sunday's series finale. It looked like the Cardinals were well on their way to a vintage drubbing of the Royals, but the bullpenners had other plans. Beginning with Miguel Batista, the plague of ineffectiveness seemed to have been contracted by every reliever summoned from the bullpen. Batista threw 0.1 IP and surrendered 2 ER (making it 0.1 IP total in his last two appearances combined, 4 ER, 4 R, 4 H, 3 BB, 0 SO). The bright spot of the 'pen was clearly Jason Motte, who came in fastballs-a-blazin' at 98-to-99 MPH according to MLB Gameday, shutting down the Royals so that their relievers could walk in the two runs that would give the Cards enough to hold on for a 9-8 victory.

The Cardinals won the first half of the I-70 Series over the much-improved Royals with a run differential of +1. The second act at Busch next month ought to be just as close and just as hard-fought. For now, the Cardinals notch another series win and push their lead in the NL Central to 2.5 games as they head west to San Diego.

Star-divide

MEANWHILE...

For those of you who missed it, last week Tim Kurkjian wrote a column on our own Kyle McClellan last week. This is the title of the column:

Kyle McClellan has given Cards 'real lift'; Righty has stepped in for the injured Wainwright, and is tied for the team lead in wins

The paragraph focuses in on pitching "wins" as opposed to the above replacement kind, but we are not here to give Mr. Kurkjian the Fire Joe Morgan treatment, for that blog's title has been realized. In this column, McClellan seems more realistic about his pitching "wins" total than either Kurkjian or Derrick Goold.

"I'm not replacing Adam Wainwright; I can't be him, there are only a few pitchers in the league who can,'' McClellan said. "All I can do is give us a chance to compete every fifth day. I feel I've given us that chance in most starts. I have a good record, but I haven't had a lot to do with that.''

It's so refreshing to come across a pitcher who recognizes that his pitching "wins" and "losses" are not really so much about him as his offense, defense, and bullpen, and especially so when he has a strikeout rate that is a bit too low and a walk rate that is probably a bit too high.

The paragraph immediately following is what I wanted to touch on. Here it is:

Cardinals pitching coach Dave Duncan disagreed, giving McClellan far more credit, but added, "He can pitch better than this. He hasn't had his curveball all year. It's a swing-and-miss curveball. If he can find that pitch, he can do even better than he has this season.''

I love it when we get observations about pitchers from Duncan (even if they seem to reveal the hope of the renaissance of a fascist pitch). Here, we have an observation that K-Mac's curveball has not been good so far this season. I went to Fangraphs to check and see how valuable a pitch K-Mac's Uncle Charlie has been this season. Not surprisingly, Duncan is dead-on. Last season, it was rated at 5.9 runs above average. In '08 and '09, McClellan's curveball was 4.1 and 2.5 runs above average respectively. This season? It's been a -1.9 pitch, meaning it's below average.

Due to its ineffectiveness, McClellan has gone away from it, not throwing his curveball as often. Last season, opposing batters saw a K-Mac curve 22.6% of the time. In '09, the curveball was thrown a tad over 25% of the time by K-Mac. In this young season, McClellan has spun his curve only 16.7% of the time. All in all, K-Mac is throwing his fastball slightly less and his curveball less, filling in the void with his change-up and cutter. His change is a good pitch, and is the best in his repertoire this season. His cutter, on the other hand, was not very good in '10 and has not been that good this year, either. At -1.41, it's been about as ineffective as the curveball.

McClellan's swinging strike percentage has fallen from 7% last season to 5% as a starter during the 2011 campaign. Perhaps this downturn in swings-and-misses is attributable in part to an ineffective curveball, as Duncan states, and, if McClellan can rediscover his breaking ball, his swinging strike rate could increase. That alone would be unlikely to push McClellan's K/9 from where it currently sits at 4.37 to something approaching the 7.17 it was last season as a reliever, but it certainly could not hurt. That is why I am going to watching to see if McCellan can rediscover his curveball and once again deploy it effectively against opposing hitters. It would help to temper his results catching up with his peripherals.

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I'd like to apologize for yesterday's game

I was watching the game and scoring at home. (Yes, I’m a dork; why do you ask?) The problem with this is that there is a strange coincidence between me making errors on the sheet (leaving something blank, doing something wrong, etc.) and bad things happening in the game. I know that this can’t really be happening, but the feeling that it is can be pretty strong. Thankfully I got everything in order by the 10th and I allowed the Cardinals to win on their own merits.

I really need to stop using my powers for evil. (And, no, I’m pretty sure the opposite would happen if I started watching Reds games.)

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by Solanus on May 23, 2011 8:34 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Actually, it's my fault.

I went to lunch in the fifth. The cards were up 7-1. I thought about ordering the Lobster Ravioli, but decided against it. The cardas proceded to leave about 10 men on base in the next three innings.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to confess

I was doing yard work while we had the big lead and when I stopped things fell apart. Luckily I made it over to my parents’ place to take care of their animals before I completely blew it.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 23, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

My darn niece graduated during that inning

and her dad the K.C. fan was behind me. DAMMIT.

by sdrone on May 23, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I have you guys to thank

if it had been a short game we would have been in the middle of the tornado that hit our town.

I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it... Jack Handy

by swmofan on May 23, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

glad to have helped

is everything ok? Everyone accounted for?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 23, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, had some damage a few trees taken out

it’s pretty bad in the main damage area.

I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it... Jack Handy

by swmofan on May 23, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Know how you guys feel...

Hope we can send some help that way soon.

by RollBirdsRoll on May 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, how did you score the pop-up to Greene?

and Albert’s grounder in the 10th?

I don’t guess I can really say either official scoring was dead-wrong, but one could argue that either both were errors or both were hits. I would probably side with errors on both, myself.

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

my scorecard from yesterday is just a disaster

I pretty much gave up trying to keep track of the pitchers and just wrote the names down in the margins. I was kind of glad there weren’t any bat-arounds to contend with, which is amazing in a 9-8 game.

Also—I forgot to mention this yesterday, but apparently they printed the scorecards wrong, with the Royals on top and the Visitors on the bottom. So they were just giving them away and not charging for them! However, it also meant I kept writing stuff on the wrong side….

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

So now YOU'RE the evil one?

What did your brother change his SN to after finding out this news?

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by fourstick on May 23, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

When are we going to hear something so candid from DeWitt?
Wilpon on Ike Davis and the Mets in general on April 20th:

“Good hitter. Shitty team—good hitter.”

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 8:51 AM EDT reply actions  

It seems like Wilpon is getting a bit cranky.

He also sounded off on Beltran, Reyes, and Wright.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

wasn't really a rip on Wright...

but I don’t like it.

Praise in public. Punish in private. No need to trash talk any of the guys who you are paying in earshot of their peers, or people outside the room.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except for Jason Marquis...

…who should be chastised publicly, early, and often…

:=8/

Griebenschmaltz!

by The MooCow on May 23, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with you but....

not by his employer.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who else should have the 'right' to criticize him

If not the guy who is signing his paychecks? I mean, I wouldn’t do it, and I think it is somehat short-sighted, but you pays your money and you takes your chances.

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

not in public

you do it in private.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

eh

It’s his team. Jose Reyes, David Wright, et al, are big boys.

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

so does complacency

Wilpon may not be in the best position to judge whether his team needs a kick in the seat of the pants, but he’s in a much better position than those of us sitting in our mom’s basements.

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's management 101

it doesn’t matter if he is in charge of 2 janitors or a Major League Baseball team. You don’t call people who work for you out to others. The only time it’s ever acceptable is when you want to bring attention to safety issues.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

If everyone was a namby pamby wuss, I guess. . .

Again, I wouldn’t do it, but a good manager knows his people, and knows whether or not that’s a tactic that will work to motivate his people.

One size does not fit all

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe he's shitting on Reyes after his great start

But I suppose he’s just shitting on everyone because….well, uh…he hates the world right now, I’m guessing?

by lightbulb on May 23, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it really a huge rip?
“He thinks he’s getting Carl Crawford money. He’s had everything wrong with him. He’s won’t get it.”
  1. Even Carl Crawford shouldn’t have gotten “Carl Crawford” money. As far as I’m concerned, Crawford had no business getting the deal that he got, and got a huge benefit from an AL East “arms race”. Everyone was up in arms about Matt Holliday’s deal, which was less than what Crawford got, and Holliday had consistently been a more valuable player leading up to his contract than Crawford had been.
  2. Jose Reyes has had some injury struggles, Crawford has not. Crawford also is one of the most dedicated offseason workout fiends in the game. Reyes is not. So to say that Reyes won’t get “Carl Crawford money” is really just speaking the truth.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

He (Wilpon) set up a strawman premise

And you’re buying into it.

Jose Reyes is not going around demanding the same contract as Carl Crawford. What he is doing is playing his ass off right now. There’s no reason for him to just dive in on him like that. It’s just not very professional.

by lightbulb on May 23, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see no strawman premise here

He was asked a question about the status of the club’s contract negotiations with Reyes. Then he gave his unvarnished opinion.

We always want these guys to speak openly and honestly, then they do that, and we get pissed because they aren’t “professional”. He can’t win.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did he get asked a question about the negotiations?

It seemed like more in-game commentary and a random insult than a direct question by the author.

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just finished the article.

I don’t know that it was a direct question, but it sure seems like it was in the context of a conversation about contract negotiations and player salaries.

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by fourstick on May 23, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

To paraphrase The Dude.

Wilpon’s not wrong… he’s just an asshole.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

This.

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by fourstick on May 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Wilpon is probably right, but that doesn’t mean he should have said it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

but let’s not rip him for saying something that’s probably true.

I get tired of the “I wish I could get an honest quote” line from reporters….then they get one, write a 60 string diatribe chastising the person who said it, and are back to wondering why they don’t get honest opinions from people by the next Monday.

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by fourstick on May 23, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a fair point.

Also something to consider – do we know when the interview was conducted? It may have been before the season started or really got going, so Reyes’s current performance may not have factored into Wilpon’s opinion.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's from a New Yorker profile.

I doubt the interview for that profile was conducted over the weekend. The New Yorker has a crazy intense fact-checking department and their pieces can take months to fact-check before going to print.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reading the article now.

Comments were made when Houston was visiting the Mets. So either April 19, 20, or 21.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I just finished it myself.

I still stand by the points I made earlier. In political parlance, this seems to be a time when a reporter caught someone making the mistake of telling the truth…lol.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to most takes I've seen on that,

that line has been overblown and really taken out of context. Apparently, he was using some self-deprecating humor and poking fun at himself.

“We had some schmuck in New York who paid him based on that one series [his 2004 postseason with the Astros]. He’s sixty-five to seventy per cent of what he was.”

Toobin notes that Wilpon was referring to himself in this quote. I imagine most GMs agree that Beltran is 65-70% of what he was, especially since he’s playing right field rather than center. But Wilpon’s comment doesn’t exactly boost Beltran’s trade value.

by goodymobb on May 23, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

They're all a bunch of schmucks...

They signed the right player to the right contract at the right time… and it’s worked out pretty much as planned.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find it odd that he would say such things when the club is going to try to trade these players.

Also, Beltran has 1.7 WAR in 175 PA so far this season. “…65-70% of what he was…”?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose injuries plus his statue routine against Wainwright in game 7...

has made him seem worse than he has been… but yeah running down your assets is not the best idea.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you could....

deal Albert Pujols for Beltran, Reyes, Ike Davis, and Matt Harvey, do you make that deal?

I say yes. Move Berkman to 1B (Davis is hurt) and put Beltran in RF — best defensive outfield in the majors. Davis then becomes the 1B next year, and we re-sign Reyes to 5-6 year deal to be our SS of the future. We also get a power arm in the deal in Harvey.

I don’t think the Mets do that deal, but they do have an owner who’s a self-described schmuck and invested money with Madoff….

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by fourstick on May 23, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd trade him for any one of those players...

okay maybe they’d have to add something with Harvey.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm saying, AS A PACKAGE

The Mets get salary relief this season, when they sorely need it according to many sources. They get a franchise player to re-sign and team with Wright and Santana to help rebuild the club. We get 2/3 of a season from Reyes and Beltran, a young 1B to replace Albert, and a pitching prospect.

Like I said, I don’t think either team would do it: the Mets wouldn’t give up Davis in any deal right now, and they can move Beltran and Reyes separately and pick up young talent in return — and the Cardinals aren’t dealing Albert Pujols when they’re in first place and he’s not playing well, they can’t get the best return on investment. Just not going to happen.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reyes has as much value as Pujols period...

Beltran might be worth 1/2 of Pujols due to salary, injury history, and our reluctance to offer him arbitration.
Davis is easily worth more than Pujols.

Any two of these players for Pujols would be a no-brainer for the Cards.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think you could do Pujols for Beltran/Reyes

unless you’re reasonably sure that you’re signing Reyes long term.

If you’re trading Albert you need to get a good player and at least some prospect help for the farm, imo. But in terms of competing this season, swapping Albert for Beltran and Reyes, moving Berkman to 1B and starting Beltran in RF would be the best possible scenario if we’re assuming that Albert walks at the end of the year.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Davis is easily worth more than Pujols?

Um, no.

Ike Davis is a fine player to have, particularly for cheap, but he’s a 1B who was worth 3.4 fWAR last year. I won’t say those guys grow on trees, because they don’t, but they’re not that hard to find.

And yes, Davis is youngish, but his prospect profile is a lot more like James Loney than it is Joey Votto or Prince Fielder.

Pujols, OTOH has never put up less than 5.7 fWAR in a season, and has averaged (before this season) 8.07 fWAR per season.

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're kidding right?

24-year-old 1B worth 3.4 fWAR in their second season are “not hard to find.”

They are impossible to find because nobody gives up these players! Justin Smoak only exchanged teams because Cliff Lee and that is the closest comparison I can find.

Don’t honestly compare him to James Loney. Or at least your sentence is extremely misleading. Nobody is calling him Joey Votto.

Loney career high fWAR is 2.1 so I have no idea why or how you can make that comparison and in that season he had a .350 BABIP. Not even close.

Pujols is making $16 million and is for the sake of this argument gone after the season. Davis is making $400,000 and under team control for 4 years in addition to this one.

So he is worth more relative to his price by fucking far.

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In terms of value -- fuck yes he is.

He’s cost controlled for 5 more seasons after this one. He could be a 4-5 WAR player at 1B. So we would pay him and AAV of around $4-$5M for those seasons, and we’d be paying Albert $25M+ per season in his decline phase.

I agree that we would have to get more back in return, but if we could get Reyes, Davis, Harvey, and another B prospect and immediately sign Reyes to a 5-6 year extension worth, say, $13M-$15M AAV, I’d do that in a HEARTBEAT. I love Albert, but that would be too good of a deal to turn down.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree totally on the James Loney comparison.

He’s got more more power than Loney, and yes, he’s probably not a 40 homer guy, but I’d bet good money he’s a 25+ homer, 40-50 double guy just about every year with a walk rate in the 12-14% range, which would make him a 5 WAR offensive player most likely. He’s average on defense, so he’s not losing any value there.

He could easily be a very valuable player during his cost controlled years.

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by fourstick on May 23, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course...

what is Pujols worth to us? 3 war and a draft pick (maybe, if things don’t change).

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not me

I’d want more than that, and we should get more than that. Davis, an expiring deal like Reyes, and Harvey sounds about right.

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by fourstick on May 23, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omar Minaya is a schmuck

But so is the guy who hired Omar Minaya….and the guy who hired Steve Phillips before that.

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by fourstick on May 23, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

DeWitt would never say anything like that.

The Cardinals PR department is better and subjected to far less intrusiveness than New York.

That said, kudos to Wilpon. I’d much rather hear honesty opinions than propoganda.

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by azruavatar on May 23, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

If you want open and honest conversation, then don’t rip the guy giving it.

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by fourstick on May 23, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love it

real talk

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is going on with all the injuries?

Who was supposed to sacrifice the virgin to the GOB?

by OCCardsFan on May 23, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

It's been pretty rough,

especially in terms of HBP to the hand.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

nobody wanted to do that to zoomzoom

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch!

See, I was limiting my thinking and almost said “We couldn’t find any”, but nothing says it has to be a female virgin, huh?

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

This VEB...outside the box is what we do.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

but we have towels for afterwards.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Always gotta have towels

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

but they don't do

that. no, they don’t do that.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Things you would expect to see in a Quentin Tarantino film?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Things you would expect to see in a Quentin Tarantino film?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to break it to you but your caption is wrong

That’s Yadier Molina not Charlie Reidel

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 23, 2011 9:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Charlie Reidel is the photographer.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is sarcasm, Alex?

It’s hard to project tone in print and I forgot the /sarcasm flag, sorry

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 23, 2011 9:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

it is a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark

And I don’t think BGH’s real name is alex.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 23, 2011 9:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry about that.

I wasn’t sure if it was sarcastic or not. As you note, it’s sometimes difficult to pick up on when in writing.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe he's referring to

This Alex

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on May 23, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, I don't think so

I’m pretty sure he thought that bgh’s real name was alex. I have a PhD in sarcasm so I wpuld know.

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by hr on May 23, 2011 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

keep it goin' guys

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not sarcasm when

" – AP" is right there credited under the photo.

by sdrone on May 23, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow, who knew Albert Pujols was an amateur photographer

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by hr on May 23, 2011 10:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was also at Friday's game.

Luckily the weather was on our side. The result was not. I was planning on taking a plethora of pictures, but alas! my camera battery failed me.

A few observations from my 3B-line seats. I thought Carp looked pretty good, especially in the early innings. He made a couple of batters look foolish. Unfortunately Mr. Francis continued to dominate the Cards (damn soft-tossing lefties!). Also, Alcides Escobar is really good on defense! I found myself staring at him during our offensive half of innings. Even routine groundballs were handled in a commanding and graceful manner. And the ball that bounced off the third baseman’s glove was awe-inspiring.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on May 23, 2011 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't the Padres need to make some changes to their park?

It’s getting ridiculous… They’re scoring 5 runs a game on the road versus 2 per game at home. They had a successful road trip where they scored 13, 9, 8, 8, 7, 6, 3, and 1 runs. Then they get home and score 2, 1, 1, 0, and 1. Ludwick has to be counting the days until he can get out of there.

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by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I like our chances of winning if

Rasmus walks 5 times in each game again.

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by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Morgan

1865 walks….so he really liked his sister?

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on May 23, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

ewwww

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I used to scream and holler

watching Joe Morgan bat over the years. He had such a strong reputation for having a “good eye” that I rarely, if ever, saw him get hosed, and virtually every borderline pitch he didn’t swing at the ump almost always called a ball.
Harumph.

by thetewk on May 23, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

One could ask the same thing about the Cards, but to a lesser extent.

The Cardinals’ home/road splits aren’t as brutal as San Diego’s, but there is a difference:

Home: .262/.345/.370/.716 — 3.86 R/G
Away: .297/.367/.466/.833 — 6.04 R/G

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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't that be a bit misleading?

The first few games we hardly scored at all and didn’t come out of it until we got to AZ.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think his point is

Any sample size that small is pretty misleading, or has a high potential to be, in any case.

by mojowo11 on May 23, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

what kind of changes would you propose?

Can’t move the plate unless you want to change the foul pole since the metal supply company building is the foul pole.

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by scoot on May 23, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bring the fences in

like they did with Busch II.

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not real familiar with

the rest of the layout of the OF there. Are there any other barriers to moving the fences in?

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by scoot on May 23, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't recall

what Petco’s dimensions are like, but they could also shrink the foul area around the diamond and behind home plate. Fewer popups get caught.

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by nota bene on May 23, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

fourstick and I

had this conversation after K-Mac’s last start

it was spurred on by the kurkjian article and Duncan’s comment on the lost curve.

KMac’s k/9 when compared to his curve pitch rating

k/9

2008 7.0
2009 6.9
2010 7.2
2011 4.4

As far as his curveball goes. Fangraph’s runs above average for the pitch

2008 4.1
2009 2.5
2010 5.9
2011 -2.3

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by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

hmm

his K/9 has been pretty steady until this year. His curveball on the other hand has been up and down the past few seasons. I feel like his low K/9 has more to do with him becoming a starter than his abnormally ineffective curve. There’s not much correlation between curve and K/9 as far as I can see.

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by hr on May 23, 2011 9:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i believe there is

bgh has his swinging and miss percentages up above. I’d love to see that for just his curve. As well as how often his curve is a called ball/strike and put into play with LD%, GB%, HR% and FB%.

Of course, i’m not savvy enough to produce those numbers. But you’re not wrong to say that pitch Run efficiency of one pitch is not enough to draw that conclusion. However; throw in papa Dunc’s comment about how he would strike out more if he had his curve back helps my point.

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by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn't find it.

Texas Leaguers doesn’t appear to break each pitcher down by pitch type for swinging strikes. I couldn’t find it at Fangraphs, either. That doesn’t mean the information isn’t out there.

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by bgh on May 23, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

It woild definitely be nice to see pitch-specific stats

but I see what you’re saying. I thought at first his low K/9 this year was because as a starter, batters would see him several times and would learn his tricks faster. But his strikeout ratio is awfully low even for this explanation and it would make sense that his bad curve could be another cause. Hopefully he can get his curveball back; I remember it was pretty nasty.

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by hr on May 23, 2011 10:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's probably not one or the other.

Shifting from the bullpen to the rotation, a drop in strikeout rate was to be expected. It’s possible that the drop has been greater because of McClellan’s poor curve so far this season.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on May 23, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's exactly what I was just trying to say

It makes perfect sense to me now. Also, thanks for the great post!

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by hr on May 23, 2011 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that was fourstick's position in my last conversation about it

his point was that KMAC could expect ~1 k/9 drop when moving to the rotation. {didn’t site where he got the number, but it seems reasonable to me and being that we like to move bullpen guys to the rotation it seems like something we would had researched here in the past} Though kmac has seen a much greater drop than that. ~2.5 drop

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by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

might be partly SSS as well

his “true talent level” might be 5-6K/9 as a starter.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 23, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Breakdown

This post claims that when McClellan has runners on, he goes to the curveball and slider more, and they are more effective:

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/20023/mcclellan-helps-ease-loss-of-wainwright

Meaningful? SSS?

by ncgostl on May 23, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you also compare his K/9 to his average fastball velocity?

I think part of his problem this year is reduced zip on his curve, but more importantly, he’s only throwing about 88mph on his heater after about the 3rd inning most starts. That’s not going to get a lot of swinging strikes.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 23, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cruz

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was just about to ask this problem

I’d go with Cruz

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on May 23, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

brainfart

question, not problem….haven’t had my coffee

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on May 23, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man....

…Anderson is such a black sheep he should sell sweaters…

:=8/

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by The MooCow on May 23, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I was going to liken him to a certain Farley-an character, but this is accurate.

Also, for a catcher supposedly known for his offense, hitting .214 in AAA isn’t going to help his cause.

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by The Classical on May 23, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't scare us with that kind of talk

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by mattybobo on May 23, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

We have rid ourselves of the Miles triumvirate, we don’t need to start re-assembling it.

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on May 23, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cruz

The field manager and pitching coach value defense in their back-up catcher.

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by bgh on May 23, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Socks!
Rasmus said: "I just went old-school, like I used to wear them in Double-A. I might do it the rest of the year.’’

I think Colby finally figured out how to become a fan favorite to grumpy old people, not just teenage girls!

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by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

That would be pretty cool.

Now, if he can just get the whole diving catch thing down.

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by bgh on May 23, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Needs to work on his grit....

…couldn’t we hire Jimmy Ballgame for grit lessons in the outfield?

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by The MooCow on May 23, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did notice yesterday

that he didn’t shy away from the wall on one long drive.

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

he has to get to know the wall, first.

but before you know it… bam…

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

for those complaining they looked like capris

I find that look much better than the “high socks” where the pants are just pulled up and bunched up above the socks. The proper way to wear them is to tuck the pants into the top of the stirrups and then roll the pants down, creating an even seam. You adjust the length of the pants by how much you tuck in.

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by scoot on May 23, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

please tell me you call yourself

The Fashion Doctor on weekends.

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

or maybe Dr. Fashion

if your going for the whole Adam West Batman Villain thing.

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I typically shy away from fashion discussions

but, it is my opinion that the way Colby was wearing his uniform yesterday is the way a baseball uniform is meant to be worn.

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by scoot on May 23, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was sort of an awkward location, though.

He’s not wearing the big woolen pants of the era when that look was more common. They were bloused appropriately, but maybe should’ve been bloused a tad higher.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of pants

(hahah, get it)

For whatever reason I’ve noticed how long these guys wear their pants. I saw Craig’s in Saturdays’ game – they were practically under his heel in back. How in heck do these guys not occasionally trip?

by sdrone on May 23, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea.

They’re slightly better than the Bondsian phase when players wore stirrups to hold the pants really low, or stabbed their back cleat through the material to keep them in place and pajama-like. But yeah – it looks crappy and it seems like it would be a hindrance. Albert certainly spends a lot of time every game messing with his pants where they touch his shoes.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

i for one would like to know how many different cuts there are

i know there’s the knee long ones
but then tlr wears some kind of weird fit that slims down towards the ankle which is mighty unflattering and then boog once or twice made an appearance in what seemed like a boot cut, which i think colby usually wears..
are these custom fit btw?

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by d-dee on May 23, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

They're tailored, I'm sure.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't some

take out the elastic; giving a different look?

I sez Sanchez.

by Yadi4 on May 23, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

a better look

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by d-dee on May 23, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

this was the trick for getting the bell bottom look

at least for us lowly college guys. Don’t know if the big leaguers use the same trick or if they have them custom made that way. Our “elastic” at the bottom of some of our pants was just a rubber band sewed in and if your rubber band broke you were stuck with the bell bottom look.

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by scoot on May 23, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are different cuts, really?

I just assumed the guys messed around with them, wore longer ones etc.

I also wouldn’t have guessed there was elastic at the bottom of the pants as mentioned below, since then something like Craig does would never work.

by sdrone on May 23, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

he also needs to wear the striped socks

the plain red coupled with the awkward height was not a good look

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I very much agree.

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by bgh on May 23, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

me too

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2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

either way

it was an improvement over the “pants over the shoes” look and I’m happy to see he said he might keep them all season.

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he looked fine and I hope he keeps it up.

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by The Continental on May 23, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

what? i love that look

and i liked last night’s too
but given colby’s body structure it’d be hard for him to look bad in anything except Fredabird’s dress

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by d-dee on May 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait,what'd I say?

I meant I don’t care if he has solid red or striped socks, but, either way, showing the socks is much preferred to the pant-legs-around-the-shoetops look. Maybe that’s what Albert needs to do to snap out of his funk.

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

well it's not like Boog's around to show him how to do it.

like he did with all those other things…

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank goodness

Ryan didnt give Colby any hitting lessons or he’d be hovering around the Pena line.

by lopey986 on May 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

for a while, Al thought so!

remember, those were the days of his abdominal pain / babydaddy slump. so it seemed that way, even though at the time we had no idea as to the cause.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

simmer down

boog’s been making lots of contact

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by d-dee on May 23, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea...

He’s 5 for his last 10! (knock on wood)

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by pattimagee on May 23, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

today I learned that VEB should not name babies, either.

however, nota bene did find the other instance of Yadi rounding the bases without the ball leaving the infield — a fine, fine piece of live-blogging if I ever read one. not like the ones on my lawn these days.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

previously on VEB

link

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

he said it was her vote

I’m guessing he has ammo in his fight, but unless you sneak off like Milton Bradley’s dad, it’s usually choice of the person doing all the work.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I liked Kaylin better, but I doubt Mrs. Scoot is waiting for my opinion

In other baby name news, I think Bexar is a good name for a child. The x is not silent, nor was it ever.

by clank on May 23, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

no guarantees that we are going with either name

just what we are currently debating. I’ll run Bexar by her. . .

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by scoot on May 23, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently he's no kind of prospect at all...

or at least he wasn’t before this year. He really doesn’t seem as fat as some have suggested. He’s not Brad Penny fat.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Goldstein,

take it away:

At least 30 pounds more than his listed weight of 230 pounds—and that might be kind—Adams’ body will always be a concern, but he’s continuing to prove that his bat deserves to be taken seriously.

This nicely sums up my opinion of him. Overweight? Yes. Prospect? Yes.

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by azruavatar on May 23, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looks like he could go 260.

But he doesn’t strike me as being fat. He just looks like a big boy. Could he probably use a personal trainer? Who couldn’t , but he’s not what I’d call “fat”.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a big boy, sure.

But he’s carrying some chub. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmfNMcPOlM8&NR=1

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by spants on May 23, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said,

he could use a personal trainer. But after seeing Prince Fielder play baseball, I’ll cut the kid some slack.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's really fat, though.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he is any heavier than 235

given his height, he is clincally obese (BMI >30).

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 23, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

BMI is a terrible measure for athletes

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by scoot on May 23, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty much

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by scoot on May 23, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a BMI of ~20

according to that, I should be in great shape

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it doesn't work for athletes...

which makes overweight non-athletes feel better.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

except for maybe linemen in football

but, they are paid to be fat, so they probably get bonuses based on their BMI

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by scoot on May 23, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

260 is easier to pull off when you're 6'3" and athletic.

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by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

He looks alright to me… if they think that’s an issue, they should call Berkman’s trainer…

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by pattimagee on May 23, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

A cautionary set of anecdotes regarding batters and Springfield

Matt Adams: .300/.347/.600
Daniel Descalso: .326/.397/.520 (parts of two seasons)
Daryl Jones: .290/.409/.500
Bryan Anderson: .313/.360/.412

Of course, there’s also Allen Craig and Matt Carpenter. I’m just saying that not every Springfield line will hold up. I’m still worried about Adams’s walk rate.

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by bgh on May 23, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Reply fail.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on May 23, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot Colby's line from Springfield:

.275/.381/.551

I would guess the OBP and AVG numbers are in line, but the slugging isn’t — he’s not slugged within 40 points of that over any other full season in the minors or big leagues.

That park and league have the penchant for creating spikes in slugging from certain players, specifically left handed ones for whatever reason (Adams, Descalso, Rasmus, Hamilton, etc.)

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

25-year-old non-prospect Alex Castellanos has put up a better line than Adams this year. And Tommy Pham isn’t far off.

I know i’ve put a lot of apparent anti-Adams propaganda up over on FR, but I do actually think he’s an interesting fringey prospect. Still, I think it’s worth (as you do here) getting his partial season into perspective. His wRC+ is only 130-something, which really shows that what he’s doing isn’t that extraordinary for that league.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 23, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think "interesting fringey prospect" is a good way to describe Adams.

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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's also an interesting way

to describe Mark Hamilton, Tommy Pham, Ryan Jackson, and Robert Stock (if and when they end this catching bullshit and put him in the bullpen). We have a lot of those guys in our system. Hopefully they all start to impress so we can deal them for help this July. I don’t see most of them making much of an impact with our club, especially Hamilton and Adams.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, Yadier Molina currently leads the majors in fWAR for catchers with 1.8

and is tied for the lead in bWAR for catchers with 1.2

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

He's having a career year at the plate.

The slugging is what’s most impressive to me. He’s on pace for 38 doubles in 500 PA’s, which would be nearly as many as he hit in ’09 and ’10 combined (42). ZIPS expects him to finish the year with a .338 wOBA, which would also be a career best (.337 in ’09).

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

a long-ass time ago

people projected Yadi to mature into some power. That dream was mostly abandoned, I think, but he’s starting to live up to it.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

his defense hasn't looked too hot

but then i guess i’d swap that for an above-average hitting year…

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 23, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

And people "projected"

Albert Pujols as a doubles hitter with little home run power.

I think everyone looked at his stocky frame and big legs and assumed he would be able to generate enough torque to hit the ball out consistently. But his bat is too slow for that — he’s better off driving the ball in the gap-to-gap, which is what he’s been really effective at this season.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this mark the end of Allen Craig playing second base?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubt it.

Maybe Tony will platoon them. That kind of positional flexibility is just too enticing for Tony to not play with.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kozma go bye-bye?

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by spants on May 23, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would assume so.

Greene isn’t doing anything either, but Kozma is the easy decision.

by Ghostrider520 on May 23, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, I suspect this will be the case

Kozma’s had his cup of coffee, Greene will stay to drop a couple more pop-ups until Freese is back is my guess.

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd say pitcher

while we are done holliday

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by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is my hope as well.

No Whammies, Batista, No Whammies, Batista, No Whammies, Batista, No Whammies, Batista, NO WHAMMIES AND STOP!

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by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks kinda like Motte for some reason

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by jd is legend on May 23, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

(it's the glove)

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope so

with holliday having an ouchie and skippy able to play the outfield.

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by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay, Craig, Greene, and Cruz...

is kind of a crappy bench

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I see two starting outfielders on some teams, an erratic shortstop with little offense and a backup catcher — looks like a decent bench to me especially with Craig and Jay being oppo handed.

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by azruavatar on May 23, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a good start...

I kind of like having an all or nothing guy…. Matt Adams!

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss when the bench was

Jay/Craig/Laird/Descalso/Punto. That was pretty awesome for a bench.

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by nota bene on May 23, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be the back-up catcher?

At least his slow ass wouldn’t have to range very far…..hopefully.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

gob help us and our pitching staff

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2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

crap

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: pop-up interference

not the baseball kind.
When I am scrolling a thread, every time there is a new comment posted I get this black box pop-up on the lower right, announcing that “new comments” have been made.
Hoop-de-doo.
It won’t go away until it feels like it (three seconds or so) and I do not know how to stop it from happening. It often interferes with my reading and is in any case an unnecessary annoyance. Is ther a way to make it stop?

by thetewk on May 23, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

You can turn off auto-updating.

There’s a little check box just above the comments that says “Auto-Refresh.” Uncheck it and manually refresh to see new comments.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand the first part, and can do that

but afterwards, what do I have to do exactly to “manually refresh to see new comments” ?

by thetewk on May 23, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

hit F5?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or the browser's refresh button.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that what that's for?

/kidding

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds yummy.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freschetta sounds better.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

you animals

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

order a pizza and have them deliver a fresca as well

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by scoot on May 23, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who the hell delivers Fresca?

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by spants on May 23, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can never go wrong

with a Caddyshack reference.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably anyone who carries Coke products.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not the Papa John's by us.

And they’re really the only delivery pizza I like.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally fucking should.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just give them directions to the nearest convenience store

then when the delivery guy calls to figure out where you are, tell him to go in and get you a fresca and give him your real directions. Make sure you tell him you’ll give him a nice tip.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 23, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I can't eat pizza anymore.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

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by spants on May 23, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously feel bad for you.

Not eating pizza would take out a part of me. I eat a pizza at least once a week if not more. (To be fair, my grandparents owned Ron and Shirley’s restuarant – Anyone heard of it?

Anyway that pizza lives on and I eat it whenever we don’t have dinner planned.)

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm craving it right now.

I may ask to make an R&S pizza because… I want one.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really only got to eat pizza for about a month and a half.

The rest of the time it’s been a major heartburn cause.

But I ate A LOT of pizza for that month and a half.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why God invented Maalox.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, you'd think that pizza delivery places

would offer it as a condiment.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even the kind with simethicone?

Or can you not take that either?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The baby is crushing and twisting my insides.

Drugs don’t really help anymore. I have Gas-X (same thing) and it does nothing to help with heartburn.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically, I'll be hungry.

And I’ll start eating and then – SURPRISE – no more room in the stomach. My OB said there is “no way” I’m going 40 weeks. I figure I make it two more, maybe.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. Tracy had the same problem.

Even as small as he was. One thing that I definitely don’t envy women the experience of.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

at eight months
They’re lethal … and I do mean lethal. I’ve hunted most things that can hunt you, but the way these things move…

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

heh

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew it would work

but before I looked it up, I didn’t know how well

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

(I'm 9 months now, but barely.)

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could just either minimize the VEB window

or keep VEB in a background tab. Both these options would allow new comments to show up automatically, but you won’t see the pop-up.

by bailorg on May 23, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT

this is the first link I found with all the Joplin-related resources.
http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/23/6700666-joplin-tornado-how-to-help

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

man... a 4th kid just died that went to my old HS

had a brain injury from a fall. i can’t imagine what it would be like to be in my old high school right now. i didn’t know the kid, but it just sucks when you hear stuff like that.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

and deaths and tragedies tend to bunch up.

it’s mathematically random, but you notice it more as you get older. it sucks.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

beats the alternative.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't have to live through the alternative.

I think.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is my go to line

when patients are complaining about their life

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 23, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, We've lost 6, I think, from our graduating class in the last 20 years

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I was a freshman, a kid in my class died from an ATV accident.

I didn’t know him well, but when I heard the news,it felt like I got slapped in the face.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

My roommate died senior year of college

He lived on the other side of the wall. Then his parents came, took his stuff, and the room was just empty.

Serious mortality wake-up call in my life.

by mojowo11 on May 23, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

hunker down, metro

another stormageddon on the way.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF is going on with the weather this year?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
30 IP, 39 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.96 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

RAPTURE!!!!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

spants had the baby?

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by scoot on May 23, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No, that's an XKCD joke.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

@Chuck618: Wind gust in maryland heights just tossed our jobsite portajohn 100 ft..with a guy in it! Yuck!

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, sucks to be that guy

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy fuck

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by jd is legend on May 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just shitting my pants driving on Delmar

wind gusts were violently rocking my car and throwing tree limbs all over the road, then one hellacious mix of hail and rain started to pound it.

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by mattyp on May 23, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

so at this point, i guess a spare pair of paints is the least of your worries...

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2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if you want to just go ahead and color you pants brown.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better seats?

Right Infield Box seats or Left Center Bleachers?

And I don’t mean hard plastic vs metal bench.

by Hardcore Legend on May 23, 2011 1:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i love the infield box seats on third baseline

never sat on first base line
if it is a day game, the bleacher seats are going to be hot as hell, but should be nice at night

so basically, i have no clue

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
30 IP, 39 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.96 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the people in the bleachers tend to suck more

in my experience at least

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I’ve thoroughly enjoyed all 5 games I’ve seen from the bleachers and enjoyed those around me as well. I’ve never sat in infield box seats, only bleachers and the lower third base foul line but I didn’t like sitting there, I felt like I had to crane my neck right to see the infield the whole game and it was kind of uncomfortable.

by lopey986 on May 23, 2011 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

...

(pj think you are one of the people who suck more)

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
30 IP, 39 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.96 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've sat in the dugout box with drunk obnoxious jackasses

not entirely section specific

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you were there for VEB day last year too?

I must’ve missed you.

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Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i said hi and then you punched me in the face

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure you deserved it.

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Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I sit in the bleachers when I go.

Helluva lot better than the nose-bleeders.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tend to get vertigo.

Plus I’d rather be closer to the field.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It may be SSS,

but it seems to me the quality of the clientele in the bleachers has actually gone down with the move to Busch III and the increase in bleacher ticket prices. Or maybe it’s just the fact of the shuffle from the old seating arrangement to the new one. I used to love to sit in the bleachers in Busch II, but I really don’t care for them as much now.

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It'll be a night game

The difference is bleachers are 7th row, baseline 18th row.

Cost $10 vs $30.

by Hardcore Legend on May 23, 2011 1:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It'll be a night game

The difference is bleachers are 7th row, baseline 18th row.

Cost $10 vs $30.

by Hardcore Legend on May 23, 2011 1:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

depending on the bleachers section, in you can see in the bullpen, i'd go bleachers before baseline 18

also, it’s possible 18 is all the way up the stairs in the infield boxes

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2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh, 18th isnt' too far back

iirc, the second section doesn’t start until somewhere in the mid 20’s row wise. However, some of the bleacher sections start with row 3 or 4, don’t they? Tickets that say 7th could actually be only the 4th row from the field?

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Infield box.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Rasmus' 5 walks last night have finally made there way onto BRef

OBP now stands at .391, exactly 30 points greater than his 2010 number. SLG is still down, but the general consensus is that his power will come around, just a shame dWAR hates his defense with a fiery passion.

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by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Just for kicks. . .

Mo should call Billy Beane after Colby’s five walk game and see what he would offer up.

/2002 humor

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

DRS (which is +/-) and UZR both like his defense this year.

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by azruavatar on May 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

TZ i thought

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like Rasmus

but remain unsold on his defence. I’d say he’s probably barely average in CF, to my eyes.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 23, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might quit for the week if they send down Boggs rather than cutting Batista.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

yea wtf? is this for real?

I just heard it on the radio that they will send Boggs down for Skip. Is he hurt or something? This seems absolutely insane…something must really be wrong with him. He pitched poorly in his last appearence vs CIN, but it was raining out, so that may have effected his control. Either way there should be no way he gets sent down for Franklin and Batista on this team. I would really have to question Mo’s sanity if Boggs is healthy and sent down.

by mick311 on May 23, 2011 1:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

wouldn't surprise me

cutting guys loose when they’re clearly done is not mo’s strong suit

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cutting a guy like Franklin

would be a bad clubhouse move. Sometimes those things matter.

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can see how this can be true

but how is cutting boggs better than cutting franklin at this point?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not cutting

sending him down. He would be back soon, I expect.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on May 23, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

optioning boggs to memphis wouldn't be?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

optioning Boggs

with the message that if he works out his mechanics/slider/control/facial hair that he will be back within two weeks? that’s a lot easier pill to swallow than DFAing a veteran guy who has been an important piece of the team for the last 2-3 years.

The best solution would be to find some “shoulder inflammation” in Franky and send him down to work on things. Of course, that assumes that he’s ever got the stuff to be a major league pitcher again. Boggs undoubtedly does have that kind of stuff (at least for a fringy bullpen guy).

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, batista should clearly be the first guy to go

they’ve been equally bad this year, but franklin has been recently useful

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would agree with this

Batista wouldn’t be missed in the clubhouse, presumably.

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't he Sanchez's interpreter?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

But I’m thinking more than 1 guy in the clubhouse speaks Spanish.

Just a hunch.

by Ghostrider520 on May 23, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

No you've got it all wrong

Jaime is German and Salas is Italian-Swiss.

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is starting to sound

like a delicatessen.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

And with that, I'm off to Hardees.

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by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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whose names are becoming O’Hara."

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by alberich on May 23, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

You know know what a bad club house move is? Making your team worst

by FlimtotheFlam on May 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

We have bullpen problems. So what do we do? Cut a decent bullpen arm and bring in a position player.

by clank on May 23, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cut Batista!

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i would cut him before franklin

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

this. 100 times this

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

he hasn't pitched for ages though

I was wondering why he didn’t get in the game last night.

From closer to AAA in about 4 weeks???

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 23, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hearing Mitch Boggs optioned to Memphis. Club yet to confirm.

http://twitter.com/#!/JoeStrauss/status/72722400906711040

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

What in the holy living fuck.

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by The Continental on May 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot figure out, for the life of me, why batista offers a better alternative than boggs

I had the exact same feeling about yesterday’s game that I did about the recent friday night game in Cincinnati. At least the Cardinals were able to pull out the win yesterday for me on my birthday though.

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by FredbirdisaDork on May 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

well happy birthday then

we’re gonna need you to go ahead and have a birthday every time we lose the lead

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think anyone thinks that

the (poor) rationale is that if boggs is optioned to memphis, he can be recalled at any time. if batista is released, he’s gone for good.

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

as it should be

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and?

in what universe are Duncan and Larussa seeing an efective major league pitcher anymore in Batista?

As soon as you get comfortable, the baseball gods will kick you right in the junk. -Chris Duncan

by FredbirdisaDork on May 23, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are dozens of Batista

types out there. He is completely fungible.

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know

10/9 K/BB in 16 IP is pretty solid. And his line drive % is ONLY 26%.

by rlgosnell on May 23, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

1.11 K/BB is awful

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

personally

i think franklin, batista, skip and greene should all be gone.

by rlgosnell on May 23, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, of course

i need to get that thing calibrated

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunno

ask them

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i presume the same universe as the one they saw

macdougal as effective in

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

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by FredbirdisaDork on May 23, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep,

very poor rationale, but I’m sure that this is it. Boggs isn’t getting much work right now (‘though who’s fault is that?) so, since he has an option left, let him go to Memphis, get regular work, and he can be brought back when needed.

Hopefully, hopefully, they will realize Batista is not helping the team before it’s too late. At least he doesn’t have quite as nice and shiny an ERA as he did for a while. 4 ER in 1/3 of an inning will do a number on that!

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

as much as i like Skippy

seriously?!?! fuck the shit?

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not Skips fault....we all knew he was going to come back.

I dont like him either but a pitcher was going to be sent down, i just dont see how in the hell its Boggs that deserves to go unless hes hurt.

by mick311 on May 23, 2011 2:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that was non-ironic

i actually like Skippy.

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

ironic?

fuck sake, sarcastic.

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will never, ever understand this coaching staff and FO's infatutation with Skip

and it probably irritates me more than anything else about them. Skip is a terrible baseball player.

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by mattyp on May 23, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip. . .

in an adequate leadoff hitter against righties (or at least he was until last year).

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

defunct adequate platoon split and

possibly the worst 2b defense in the majors = terrible

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by mattyp on May 23, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And you'd still lose?

Allen Craig has a ways to go to prove he’s worse than Schumaker. Craig was a one time 3rd baseman, Skip is converted outfielder. I continue to believe that Craig and not Schumaker should get the benefit of the doubt on defense.

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by azruavatar on May 23, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with you on this.

And I’d much rather have Craig’s bat.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd give it a try at least

but ultimately, I think Craig is a 1B.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

UZR has liked him during his limited time in the OF.

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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's a LF, actually

He’s a good athlete, runs well, he just has a pathetic excuse for a hose.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly

after watching AC make a couple plays yesterday, I think he could probably be a better 2B than Skip. His arm probably plays better at 2nd anyway.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about Skip vs. Greene?

Greene’s D, regardless of dropped pop-ups, is obviously better than Skip’s as is, we think, his power potential. But, is he ever going to hit above .230? How much better would Skip need to hit for them to be even?

Note I don’t know which “side” I would take in this, somebody convince me.

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the left: relax, I got this.

on the right: DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY MORE COFFEE?

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

hmmmm

looks like something stronger than coffee

by infallibleopiniongenerator on May 23, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

they screwed him by taking him out of the outfield

maybe they feel like they owe him a couple of years

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope.

They HELPED him by taking him out of the OF. He’s – at best – a 4th outfielder.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

not THIS team

but the chances he could get a job on another team should be better as a 4th outfielder than as the worst 2b in baseball

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 38

by d-dee on May 23, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know about that.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was not a good CF, and isnt anywhere close

To having the offensive production to start in a corner OF position. I’m not sure he would be starting for another team in the OF….actually, i don’t think he would be starting for any other team at 2nd either, so maybe it doesn’t matter.

by mick311 on May 23, 2011 2:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

his bat plays better

at 2B than in the OF.

He plays CF about as well as he plays 2B at this point (probably – he was never good out there, and now he is a few years removed from having played the position).

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not like he can never play OF again

his resume expanded. i don’t see how that’s not beneficial to him

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

his bat would play, definitely

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

he wouldn't be making nearly as much money as a 4th/5th outfielder

than he is as a starting 2nd baseman.

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by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh gawd...

so we get worse at second, and we get worse in the pen. Great move Mo!

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

From a Staff Report at stltoday
In a corresponding move, the Cardinals are expected to subtract a pitcher from their roster later today. Believed to be among the leading candidates for designation to Memphis is relief pitcher Mitchell Boggs.

Other options to be designated for assignment would include Ryan Franklin and Miguel Batista. However, the club has assured Franklin of his position and does not appear to be inclined to designate Batista.

This is crazy.

by OCCardsFan on May 23, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

..."assured Franklin of his position"...

What “position” is that? Pitching every other road series?

by Ghostrider520 on May 23, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing it means

“allowing Franklin to finish the season/career on a ML roster.”

by TBender on May 23, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thing is...

we could handle having Franklin or Batista in the bullpen. We can’t handle both, because that leaves five pitchers, one of which is a loogy and not a good one. This leaves Motte, Sanchez, Salas, and Tallet as the only apparently competent relievers we have.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this

One of the two needs to be cut. They can’t both continue to stick around just to “suck” up innings

by OCCardsFan on May 23, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

I saw him with a cup asking for change

by STLRegalia on May 23, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

man, the years have been hard on kevin federline. at least he still has that nifty hat.

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on May 23, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Tallet does suck

he was the worst reliever in baseball last year.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't he start?

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He started 5 games out of his 34 appearances.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you pitched Trever Miller against mostly righties

He’d probably be the worst reliever in baseball, too.

by mojowo11 on May 23, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is it not kozma?

we’ve got theriot and greene for SS, schu, greene, craig for 2B, descalso and craig for 3B.

by mikey_mac on May 23, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if this means Punto is not far off?

Initially, he was expected back in the 15 day minimum then the rumors flew that it would be a couple months, correct? I thought I heard somewhere (from Dan ‘n Al?) that he’s “progressing nicely” and they speculated he’d be back soon.

Does keeping Kozma up maybe indicate that Punto will return after only 15 days?

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was coming back around the ASB

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by jd is legend on May 23, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, I heard that too

but sometime this weekend, either on FSMW or in the P-D, someone said he was healing nicely and they expected his stay to be closer to the 15-day minimum. Guess we’ll find out sometime between next week and the ASB.

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

dumb!

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadier Molina is

One good day short of the cardinals having the top three batting average leaders in the national leagues and currently have 3 of the top 5. Does anyone know the last time this happened, if ever?

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by wizard11 on May 23, 2011 1:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Could somebody direct me to the stats on Baseball reference or Fangraphs

where I could reshuffle the Cardinals line-up to see how the offense would be affected? I specifically want to take an everyday player out and reshuffle the line-up to give a complimentary player regular at bats. I want to see if this would make the team beter or worse.

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by FredbirdisaDork on May 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

thank you very much

As soon as you get comfortable, the baseball gods will kick you right in the junk. -Chris Duncan

by FredbirdisaDork on May 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm really sorry

but where on the advanced batting statistics page at baseball reference will i find OBA? Is it called something else at that website?

As soon as you get comfortable, the baseball gods will kick you right in the junk. -Chris Duncan

by FredbirdisaDork on May 23, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

OBP = OBA

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by spants on May 23, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I just googled it after I asked and figured it out

As soon as you get comfortable, the baseball gods will kick you right in the junk. -Chris Duncan

by FredbirdisaDork on May 23, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

It’s on-base percentage (i.e. the percentage of plate appearances in which a batter reaches base), and slugging average (i.e. the average number of bases that a batter receives per at bat).

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

is a lineup that produces 5.487 runs vs. a lineup that produces 5.242 runs significantly better?

I’m not sure what the translation is in regards to the value of runs over the course of a season. What I’m trying to say is that I don’t know if 0.24 runs is actually a lot or a little in this situation.

As soon as you get comfortable, the baseball gods will kick you right in the junk. -Chris Duncan

by FredbirdisaDork on May 23, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

that seems like a lot

over 160 games, that’s like… 4 wins

by mikey_mac on May 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say that's significant

look at the runs/game for all 30 MLB teams, a quarter of a run isn’t huge but it’s meaningful.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that was a lineup that I ran with Albert Pujols (currently) replaced with Allen Craig (currently)

I feel almost disgusted with myself that I would even be thinking about that, but I just wondered what the differences would be. I am in no way saying that Craig is better than Albert, nor am I suggesting that their current season are going to be representative of their season as a whole. I was just curious to know what our offense would look like moving berkman to 1b and putting Craig out in his place (at the expense of albert).

As soon as you get comfortable, the baseball gods will kick you right in the junk. -Chris Duncan

by FredbirdisaDork on May 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our defense would look a bit better too, probably.

I would guess that Craig/Jay would platoon in RF though — it wouldn’t be just Craig.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love FESPN analysis

their expert analyst’s (Dave Winfield) take on Albert:
- we shouldn’t be worried
- he’s swinging at more balls out of the zone
- we have Berkman and…uh….that guy, what’s his name, the left fielder anyway

….yeah, well I am worried about Alber, he’s actually swinging at fewer balls out of the zone compared to last year, and that left fielder’s name you forgot is Matt Holliday, the league’s leading hitter

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by mattyp on May 23, 2011 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

haha wtf Strauss on Bernie says the decision

Was between Sanchez or Boggs and they are sending down Boggs? Bernie mentions Franklin, but doesnt even ask about Batista???? WOW!

by mick311 on May 23, 2011 2:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Do people just look at Batista's ERA and think "oh, he's been good!"

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by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

2.76!

Unfortunately his RA is 5.50 and he’s given up 32 baserunners in 16 innings.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmm

2.00 WHIP

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

jesus h christ on roller skates

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

from staff reports on the P-D
Believed to be among the leading candidates for designation to Memphis is relief pitcher Mitchell Boggs.

Other options to be designated for assignment would include Ryan Franklin and Miguel Batista. However, the club has assured Franklin of his position and does not appear to be inclined to designate Batista.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_fb6268c6-8565-11e0-9f99-0019bb30f31a.html

by clank on May 23, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

and for those who argue

Removing franklin will hurt chemistry….hell, is their a worse way to crush a guys confidence than have him go from being our closer to AAA in a 2-3 week span, while there are 2 horrible pitchers in our bullpen?

by mick311 on May 23, 2011 2:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

it would be, as they say in business.

A dick move

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

At what point does Mozeliak need to do his job and not worry about being a dick?

His job is to put the best team in the hands of Tony and Duncan. He did that when he traded Chris Duncan a few years ago… when does he do his job and get rid of at least one of the two, obviously, terrible pitchers in the bullpen?

As soon as you get comfortable, the baseball gods will kick you right in the junk. -Chris Duncan

by FredbirdisaDork on May 23, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

see also

Hoffman, Trever

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of site

out of mind? Maybe they won’t notice…

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by pattimagee on May 23, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Pain

Source: Statcorner

Jason Motte tRA: 1.29 (20 xIP)
Miguel Batista tRA: 5.43 (17.6 xIP)
Ryan Franklin tRA: 8.53 (19.5 xIP)

For reference:
Salas tRA: 1.67
Sanchez tRA: 3.12

By one account (tRA), we are sending our best reliever to AAA.

by lightbulb on May 23, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

boggs is the one going, not motte

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit

I meant to pull Boggy’s.

tRA 3.44.

by lightbulb on May 23, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's xIP anyway?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

expected innings pitched

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure

but how is it calculated

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

using maths

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

thanks

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not 100% sure, but...

I think it normalizes for parks and defense.

by lightbulb on May 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

that doesn't make any sense to me

and i can’t find anything on google. i’ll just pretend it doesn’t exist

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me try again (my fault)

If I wanted to calculate “expected outs”, I could do that. Blooper that landed from a hit is ‘normalized’ to an out, line drive caught is made into a single, HR/FB rate switched from an individual pitcher’s rate to the league average rate. Then apply the park factor stuff.

You then get “xOuts”. Divide all your xOuts by 3 and you get xIP.

by lightbulb on May 23, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah

right on

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rob Neyer chimes in
When Franklin lost his closer’s job, Boggs was first in line and converted his first three save opportunities in good order. But then he blew a save, hasn’t had a shot since, and this month he’s given up five runs in only five innings. If nothing else, it’s apparent that he’s lost the confidence of his manager.

Still, Boggs has a perfectly respectable 3.66 ERA, while Franklin’s sitting on 9.20. The problem is that it’s hard to dump Franklin, and every other reliever on the staff actually has an ERA lower than Boggs’ 3.66.

Source

by FlimtotheFlam on May 23, 2011 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I know

The whole decision makes a lot more when I just look at ERA

by FlimtotheFlam on May 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, what?

I was busy banging my head into a wall and didn’t understand what you just said.

by leefyg on May 23, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Eh, there's room for one bad mop up pitcher in a bullpen.

If you have two crap pitchers, cut the one with least tenure.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm okay with giving franklin the benefit of the doubt for a few months

he’s been at least solid for several years. he deserves an opportunity to try and straighten out. batista on the other hand

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

y'know

I think that’s reasonable. He did have a 1-2-3 inning in the first game against KC. The problem is having not one but two mop-up guys.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was joking

banging my head against the wall over another move that I will blame TLR for, rightly or wrongly.

by leefyg on May 23, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time to take Frankie out to pasture

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by jd is legend on May 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

12 seasons now.

Shit, he’s nearly a 5/10 guy!

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by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck that.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Miguel Batista...

qualify for Social Security Benefits?

by Jumsy on May 23, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

this explains it

Larussa actually thinks Batista’s ERA is pretty good!

or whatever
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh I wouldn't say that though.

Batista pitched yesterday in a 7-3 game and hadn’t pitched since May 13.

I think he knows Batista’s relative value more than we think. Although my relative value for him is in AAA so…

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but the lawness has clouded his thoughts

or whatever
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

if I had to guess what Tony/Mo are thinking

they see Batista as a mop-up guy, and they are betting that Franklin will eventually return to 2009-2010 form and be a useful late-inning guy (if not the closer). Boggs has options and is probably not going to be @ Memphis for very long.

Not that I agree with this POV, but this seems to be what the FO is thinking.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

prophetjohn played FETCHING for 78 points

muahahaha

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

While we're loading up on crap players...

looks like the Reds are cutting ties with Gomes. Not confirmed but it looks that way…

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Frazier

and Gomes isn’t in the lineup against Hamels…. if he can’t start against a lefty or a lefty with a good change, I’m not sure why they would keep him around.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh jeez

I saw him at Mizzou for a regional his junior year, he didn’t look athletic at 1B I can’t imagine the OF will be fun. He’s not even that great of a hitter.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on May 23, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Gomes got cut! Gomes got cut!"

- Adam Wainwright

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by jd is legend on May 23, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Something else about Renteria leaving the team?

Unsubstantiated of course, but Reds fans are all hot and bothered about it on the Twitter.

by Ghostrider520 on May 23, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess not...

Volquez to AAA instead.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's dumb as hell.

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

haha

or whatever
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Versatility is the key.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

fascinating

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats FESPN tag line

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

There really wasn't much else to say.

Talked about how our bench guys weren’t typical Matt Stairs PHers and that they play multiple positions well enough. Then he compared to Philly’s bench.

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by spants on May 23, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a bad feeling that in 2 weeks...

the Cardinals will have the most underused bench with many AB’s going to Schumaker, Molina doing ALL of the catching, and a healthy Holliday and Berkman being mainstays in the lineup.

by Jumsy on May 23, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kozma and Cruz need to work on their handshakes.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least they finally sent Hamilton back down

that really irritates the hell out of me, having a guy get something like 15 PAs and about one inning in the field in a month and a half.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

I’d really worried that Laird’s injury coupled with Molina’s performance is going to mean we’re going to run Molina into the ground until he can’t come close to replicating the performance

by infallibleopiniongenerator on May 23, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

strauss claiming that teams never make up injuries to put a player on the DL

someone who can think of a good example, go pwn him

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

his response to Izzy was..

“Hand”

Didn’t Izzy injure his hand by punching a TV after a blown save or something?

by leefyg on May 23, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't remembret

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

laceration.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT

I was at a bachelor party this past weekend for an old high school friend, and one of his friends who was there (that I’ve never met before) is named Alex Fritz. Really messed with my head.

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by jd is legend on May 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

was he a huge jackass?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

Just kind of a drunk

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by jd is legend on May 23, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

did he wack it out?

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Didn’t whip it out, either

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by jd is legend on May 23, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

wacking it out is a britism

you should adopt it, it’ll make you look suave and sophisticated, like me.

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still waiting on a Facebook reply.

Do Brits not reply in timely fashion to Facebook messages either? HUH?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on May 23, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

the one you sent on may 19th?

or have you sent another?

Sorry, been very busy recently with stuff.

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Priorities:

 1. Tea
 2. Crumpets
 3. Answer CG’s Facebook message

by Ghostrider520 on May 23, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Obviously that's what's going on.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on May 23, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah the 19th.

I guess there wasn’t a question so it maybe didn’t seem urgent, and it’s really not super urgent. I just need to know if I will have someone to give me a break from my crazy friend who I’m traveling with. I figure I’ll need one by then.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on May 23, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably a different one

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just "kind of"?!? I'm kicking him out of the club!

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah only kind of

He actually drove my car to the Flora-Bama on Saturday night…..he didn’t drive it back, but he got us there

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by jd is legend on May 23, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mullet tossing, huh?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, that wasn't this past weekend

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by jd is legend on May 23, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a shame.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good story.

Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.

by azruavatar on May 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also:

Go Bama!

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by azruavatar on May 23, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate you

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by jd is legend on May 23, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are a few of us out there.

We forward each others misdirected e-mails from time to time.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

you want misdirected emails?

you should try having my name. I’ve been invited to (and privy to lots of information on) alot of nights out / other meetings with people that are totally unknown to me.

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was a huge fan of your beer when I was in high school!

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah buddy.

Oatmeal stouts were 2 for $5 in most jam band parking lots in the late 90’s. Adjusted for inflation, that’s like $7 in todays economy!

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's pretty cool

do you find American lagers as offensive and tasteless as i do? Coors, Miller even Bud? Its nice to know you can get a decent pint elsewhere.

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

smiths is very popular in the states

you see it in booze shops more than you do here.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 23, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not all lagers are bad.

You’re just referencing the ‘commercial’ brands. Think W’s & L’s, just because it’s mainstream doesn’t make it right.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

but still, comparing the commerical american lagers to commercial european lagers. USA ones still come out much worse.

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heineken sucks.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bleh.

Their success is what a mediocre beer can do with a massive advertisement budget. See also: Dos Equis.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know how to respond to this.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

beyond shocked.

three years in Kirksville and not a single Irish Carbomb was booze bullied upon you? The world I grew up in is gone.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

My first beer was a Dos Equis in Mexico.

Then, I studied in London and really got into the beer drinking. So many wonderful beers.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, you do.

If you haven’t, you need to go to many a European city.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh look at Mr. Fancy pants over here

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guinness is way better...

in Ireland and the UK. I don’ t know why exactly, it just is.

by Jumsy on May 24, 2011 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fatty Oatie stouts

from Sam Smiths were not 2/$5 in any phish lot I visited (and I’ve been to my fair share). They were more like $5 each but man, I loved them during a fall tour. Grab one of those right when you hit the lot and it felt like it warmed you up while you cruised around waiting to get into the venue. Speaking of which, Phish tour starts this week!

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout in my fridge right now!

Thinking of drinking it tonight.

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 23, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scott Kazmir: right now.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garry Templeton??

I believe it was for “chemical imbalance.”

by TBender on May 23, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oliver Perez...

every time he is on the DL?

by Jumsy on May 23, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aroldis Chapman...

just got Bakered. Is that a real injury?

by Jumsy on May 23, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chapman bottomed out at 92 mph fastballs

This a guy who probably bottomed out at 98 when he’s right. He probably was hurt.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on May 23, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or...

overused by Dusty Baker (hence Bakered), just like the other young arms he has ruined in his past.

by Jumsy on May 24, 2011 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

"flu-like symptoms"

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Kuo just went on the DL with "the yips"

I think they called it “back discomfort” or something.

by mojowo11 on May 23, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

O'Fallon Brewing is

back in business.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

he lives!

how was the birthday?

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure about that Mr. Reply Fail?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on May 23, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i almost never reply fail.

but the fact that i drank again saturday night is a pretty good sign that i was okay.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 23, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously you're a beginner

drinking the next day is the best way to get rid of a hangover, not a sign that you are functioning

by STLRegalia on May 23, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait

i may see a problem here

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

blech.

i never want to drink hungover. ever. and i don’t.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 23, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, bloody marys and mimosas at brunch are terrible.

And by terrible, I mean the opposite of that.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahah

i am unemployed starting tomorrow…so i will be making a bloody with bacon for breakfast. then twins game on wednesday…time to get schwasty!

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"

by tgreenfield on May 23, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh was it your birthday?

Are you in the 21 club now?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on May 23, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's all grown up now

Has your mother sold her mangle?

by Aranathor on May 23, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

wishful thinking on boggs/roster machinations

do you think they are buying Franklin/Bautista 10-14 more days to see who will be around when Boggs deserves to come back up? I’ve got to think that this is merely a delay-move to see which sucky pitcher sucks least….

god i hope so.

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on May 23, 2011 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YOU CAN’T GET RID OF ME!!!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

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30 IP, 39 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.96 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

shit...that did now work

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
30 IP, 39 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.96 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
30 IP, 39 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.96 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

i fucking suck

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
30 IP, 39 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.96 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

how did you do that…or more appropriately…why was it not working for me?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
30 IP, 39 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.96 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

subject line?

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, there isn't one

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyway, fuck year late start.

i can watch the reds game in its entirety at 6 and then the cardinals game at 9. life is good.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 23, 2011 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm going to be up late.

Being in the best time zone, usually allows me a 6:10 start, which means I can get home in time for first pitch, and done with the game before ten.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do that anyway...

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't reply fail so yeah

You always say you are going to go to bed at like 11 and end up actually going to bed an hour or two later.

You reveal too much on twitter.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is so true.

i’ve done this for four years now. i always think i’ll be in bed by 11 or 11:30 but it always ends up being 12 or later.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 23, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's especially bad on nights i go to cardinals games.

i get home around 10:30 or so, tell myself i’m going to only spend an hour on the computer, but always end up spending more.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 23, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah the same thing happens to me

except for I pretty much know ahead of time that I’ll be staying up late. Sleep for some reason only matters when I have school or want to wake up not at night.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll be at work until midnight tonight

so the west coast game will be a welcome distraction whilst i do nothing

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"

by tgreenfield on May 23, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

the reds optioned edinson volquez to AAA

crazy

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

But won't that hurt the Reds morale?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

after what he said yesterday

it may raise it.

/but I get the irony/joke

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

what he said?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

optioning your ace after one bad start?

probably

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh.. their ace?

one bad start?

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

you shut up

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know he's been walking 6.7 per nine?

that is an abortion.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Volquez sucks...

AAA is exactly where he should be…

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would rather him be pitching to MLB battters

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i say everything as a cardinal fan

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

i would rather him be pitching to MLB batters yes

because that makes it that much harder for the Reds to win games

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on May 23, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

but is he an ace?

Seriously, the guy had one good year, and it was a legitimately good year, based on peripherals and what not. Then, in rapid succession, he blew out his elbow, tested positive for performance-enhancing substances, and sucked on the mound.

As has been noted below, he’s walking the park, and he’s become very hitiable. He’s also probably a head case, having been demopted all the way back to single-A ball from the majors twice, which doesn’t happen if you are just having mechanical issues.

He’s d-u-n, done.

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he's got such good stuff

or maybe i’m confusing him with cueto again

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your Trevor Rosenthal update

Coming back from injury, he struck out 7 over 5IP yesterday. 6:0 GO:AO ratio. No BB or runs allowed.

Season stats in my signature

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 4:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Miller-Martinez-Rosenthal 2014 =

Zito-Hudson-Mulder 2001

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

martinez-miller-rosenthal

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rosenthal-Martinez-Miller

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard

i will fight you right now

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're both stupid

aren’t all three of MMR right handed?

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

modular mustang racing?

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

measles, mumps, and rubella

know your vaccinations

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 23, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

touche

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take rosenthal's secondary stuff vs your precious martinez's

100 mph heater any day…plus rosenthal has already beamed 6 people this year….WATCH YOUR EARHOLE!!!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

but he's got the hundo

and a great curve/slider. plus he’s working on a change up. that’s why he’s so freaking amazing

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you want me to give him your number Thursday?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

that'd be great

have i mentioned that i already have his autograph? i don’t think i have

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the amatuer game Thursday?

I should grab a ticket. I was thinking about going.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on May 23, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

si.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm trying to decide if to go.

but…it’s $10 and concessions (read: beer) is half price sooooooo…….

by stlcardinalsfang on May 23, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

And no Az!

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate both of you.

Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.

by azruavatar on May 23, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAN THEM!!!!

Or at least give them a snarky warning.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you just sold me on going

I bet I can walk up and get tickets the day of

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on May 23, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can order them now and will call them.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea...he fucking rocks

Little frames and 100mph scares me though, I don’t care how “free and easy” the delivery looks

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 4:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

so he probably has elbow surgery at some point

same as every other pitcher

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i keep waiting for this to happen

a pitcher that throws with both hands

but instead of switching based on handedness of batters, just have two spots in the rotation for one guy.

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know why you wouldn't alternate every pitch...

seems like that would keep hitters off balance…

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

so that you can pitch more often and maximize value

only having one arm warmed up at a time

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be great to be able to hide which hand it was coming from

Until the last possible second…I feel like that would be a balk though

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 5:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thought Satchel Paige could do that.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm more concerned with the shoulder

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 4:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

we need tpg at the QC game at busch

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

So he can put up a fanpost and we can all eviscerate him for it?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i don't eviscerate

i just spectate

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sorry, there's no way

Carlos Martinez can command that shit like a mofo. 19 with command of a perfect fastball? Unbelievable. And Miller is still a better prospect than either of them. The ranking is still

Miller
Martinez
H
U
G
E

G
A
P
Rosenthal

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

miller only because of the track record

if things go like they have been, martinez at least ties miller

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

My statement
H
U
G
E
G
A
P
Seriousness

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 4:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Though I don't think the gap between the two Ms

And Trevor is that huge

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/23/2011):
35 IP, 46 K, 15 BB/HBP, 13 ER, 2 HR, 2.6 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2011 4:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

wheeeee chicken counting

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck it. I'm done with this team until Boggs comes back, Skip is solely a bench player

Batisita or Franklin are DFA’d, or La Russa/Mo are fired.

Would someone kindly give me a tweet if any of those things happen?

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

sure, i got you

peace

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

liar.

we have the second best record in the national league, the best offense, and are 26-14 since starting 2-6.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but he disagrees with the 25th man

pricinples, yo

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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

they way i look at it, skip probably is a 25th man.

if you count craig as the fifth outfielder, we’re going to carry six infielders. with freese and punto out, those six should be pujols, descalso, theriot, kozma, skip and greene. when freese and punto get back, kozma and greene should be shipped out. skip is your 25th man that shouldn’t start. it’s too bad that he will.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 23, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kozma, Cruz, Batista, Franklin.

We’re down to 21 competent players, and one of them is Skip.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

but yeah i agree that we're basically operating with a 5 man bullpen.

which is just stupid. especially since we only have three righties of those 5. and one of them is your closer, leaving only motte and sanchez.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 23, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are kidding about Kozma, right

hell, i still have faith that Kozma might be a decent MLBer one day, but he shouldn’t even be in AAA right now, much less on the 25 man roster

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carpenter would have been a better alternative

I stand by my assertion that Kozma should still be in AA

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Missouri Legislature passed a law

All major league baseball teams in the state of Missouri have to have someone capable of fielding the position of SS on the roster.

Seriously, keep up, man.

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you see him catch that popup in the 10th yesterday?

The ball went waaaaay up in the air. As it was falling he maneuvered his glove directly underneath the ball and managed to close his glove a split second after the ball entered – thus securing it completely.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has Cruz actually been called up yet?

Haven’t heard anything official.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on May 23, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh. . .

you realize they’re in first place, right?

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 23, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn't absolve the team of making poor decisions

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

2010?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it's worse this year

why we keep 2 members of a bullpen that the manager has rarely used, and when they are used, they implode
UGH

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did Pedro Feliz do right?

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

play defense

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to UZR, he was about average on the Cards

and negative for the season. So I guess he did that “right”

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

anecdotally speaking

he sure looked like a plus defender @ 3rd. Rangy, sure-handed, cannon arm. W/ a career OBP of .288, you pretty much have to be doing something right w/ the glove.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Aaron Miles worse than Kozma?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

Miles, Feliz, and Mac are probably ~ Frank;in, Batista, Kozma

and it isn’t like we had a lot better options last season (maybe we did)

this season we demote the better pitcher to keep the craptacular ones on the roster

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I will be less pleased

when Franklin, Batista, and Kozma are not on the 25-man than I was at the end of 2010 when Miles, Feliz, and Mac left it. But, it’s not yet June…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You think this baby is the second coming or something?!

I’m not sure which of those things is more preposterous.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

something something, vigin birth joke.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

You got the wrong gal.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't mean to impugn your cocksmanship.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

THAT"

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw fuck.

Forget it.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

it begins.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was down with Mike MacDougal

After seeing what Duncan did with Todd friggin Wellemeyer, couldn’t hurt to give a guy who has 97 with sink a shot.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on May 23, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeff Tabaka will never be touched

It just can’t be. It is the absolute zero of TLR roster/usage stupidity.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on May 23, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was there and it was awful.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

See you in 2012!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 23, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

2013

I forgot Tony has an option year

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK WE OPTIONED BOGGS?!?!?!?

HOW CAN THEY POSSIBLY JUSTIFY THIS MOVE

THIS IS RIDICULOUS

I QUIT THIS TEAM FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS

NEVERMIND THAT I HAVE A WEDDING SUNDAY AND A HONEYMOON AFTER

THAT’S MOSTLY IRRELEVANT

STILL

WHAT THE FUCK

BOGGS

THAT’S TERRIBLE AND MO SHOULD FEEL TERRIBLE

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   5 recs

I don't know why she got so weirded out

Sign pics are very common on the internet to prove realness

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, I was trying to remember who you were yesterday

’cause i believe my niece is going to Truman State.* I was checking scores, VEB, etc. from the baccalaureate service.

  • obligatory warning about staying the hell away from her, of course.

by sdrone on May 23, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, you're not.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad news:

You’re male and you’re on the internet. Read: predator!

by sdrone on May 23, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or simply a more cautious

internet consumer. Pics of me are probably trivial to find.

by sdrone on May 23, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on, kid!

They don’t even do that anymore! But out of paranoia I have my wife take care of all post office errands anyway.

by sdrone on May 23, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone even go to the post office anymore?

I don’t think I have been in a post office in at least 2 years.

by Ghostrider520 on May 23, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

great place to people watch

I occasionally drop certified mail off for the office and never walk away disappointed.

by STLRegalia on May 23, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The post offices in the burbs around here

are usually swamped. You usually run into people who are obviously ebay sellers dropping off armfuls of packages.

I don’t think the postal carrier picks up packages, so a PO drive-by is the quickest way to send a package.

by sdrone on May 23, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do....

I have a PO Box. I live two blocks from the Office, but they don’t deliver the mail. Giant PITA.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is exactly why I demanded a sign pic

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is a sign pic?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing

a picture of said person in front of a sign somewhere

by STLRegalia on May 23, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

A picture of them with a sign that proves that it's actually them

Like a “Hi VEB!” sign or something like that

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like a hostage holding a newspaper!

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I plan on watching the games on the beach.

There better be wifi, or at least 3g that I can tether in Jamaica.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also....

If you’re staying in an apartment for the next 5 years, no lab or retriever. It’s not fair to them. Big dogs need a yard.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Big dogs need a yard"

is that a new Harley slogan?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 23, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Nope.

Justification for whipping it out.

by TBender on May 23, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

If you need justification, you aren't the type of guy that should be whipping it out.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Great Danes!

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 23, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

CBS tries to explain advanced stats
“Overally (sic), he’s 3-2 with a 6.35 ERA and a 4.16 xFIP, suggesting [Volquez has] been better than he’s pitched.”

He’s been…better than he’s been?

by mojowo11 on May 23, 2011 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean, Pink Flag is the best double album of all-time, right?

What else could it be? The White Album? London Calling?

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Is that a Wire reference?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, Pink Flag is a Wire album

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm aware,

because it is awesome.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

that’s why I’m saying, it’s the best double album of all time. I can’t think of a better one.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a double album?

I swear my copy is only a single.

it still rules though.

by molina mo problems on May 23, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

double nickels on the dime

actually, probably the white album

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a big fan of the White Album

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's your favorite album

prediction: sgt peppers

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah. Abbey Road

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's at least justifiable

rubber soul > white album > abbey road > revolver > please please me > sgt peppers > let it be > don’t care

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let it be is not an official Beatles album

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't care

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, Please Please Me?

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

early beatles is underrated

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

But, I mean, they wrote like 3 songs on that album

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

so maybe it's a beatles* album

but the songs on there are pretty quality. esp twist and shout

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a pretty unpopular opinion, but I think Please Please Me is the best song on the album

Everybody always picks Love Me Do or Twist and Shout. Suckers.

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

all 3 are pretty solid

but t&s rocks harder than any song ever written

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rui was involved

Are you honestly surprised?

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that you don't have Sgt. Pepper at the very top

Great album. Also, a very overrated album (in my opinion)

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by mattybobo on May 23, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although I like Help! a lot more than anybody else I know

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not partcularly well versed on anything between please plase me

and rubber soul

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Help!'s awesome

Title track
Ticket to Ride
You’ve Got to Hide Your Love Away
I’ve Just Seen a Face
Yesterday

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, yesterday is quality

i’ve probably heard all of the album here and there, but never listened to it in its entirety as an album

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i should re-listen to Double Nickels

it never really hooked me the first dozen times but it’s been awhile.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Minutemen were all insanely good at their instruments

its jarring when you’re a teenager listening to a bunch of amateurish hardcore bands yowling and thrashing away, then all of a sudden you come across a group of virtuosos playing 30 seconds funk rock songs.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Big fucking shit… right now man”
great line

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

and Three Girl Rhumba is such an amazing song

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're all pretty amazing on that album

I guess saying Mannequin is my favorite song is too obvious…so I’ll go with Ex-Lion Tamer.

by lightbulb on May 23, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

its okay to love Mannequin

sometimes, Wire was just a great pop band.

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by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

another album that never really hooked me

except for “I Just Want to See His Face”

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by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Just Want To See His Face

is a sweet song. But, for me, Let It Loose and Shine A Light are the two heavy hitters on that album, of course Loving Cup, Ventilator Blues, Tumbling Dice, and Rocks Off kick ass too.

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the slow shuffle of it

plus the lyrics are freaking excellent, if you can make them out. Let this music, relax your mind. I never considered it a lesser track.

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just listening to London Calling today in the car

maybe my favorite album period. Such an eclectic mix of songs that transcended punk.

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by mattyp on May 23, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

London Calling

comes in my top 5 for sure. Maybe top 3.

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know it's excellent and yet, whenever I listen to it, I find myself thinking, "Man, this album is great!"

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

also worth mentioning here

is Zen Arcade. While not my favorite Huskers album, it did produce my favorite Huskers song, Pink Turns to Blue.

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by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bitches Brew

Physical Graffiti gets an honorable mention.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big ups there

though I prefer Tribute To Jack Johnson for that era, and neither compares to Workin’ with the Miles Davis Quintet

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

for sure

Bitches Brew, can’t believe I forgot that one!

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blonde on Blonde

is fantastic, but not a double album.

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, yes it is

wiki:

Blonde on Blonde is often considered to be the first significant double album in rock music.
allmusic:
If Highway 61 Revisited played as a garage rock record, the double album Blonde on Blonde inverted that sound, blending blues, country, rock, and folk into a wild, careening, and dense sound.

by clank on May 23, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Visions is definitely my favorite, but Just Like A Woman is wonderful too. Overall though, not as good as Blood on the Tracks or Desire (neither of which is a double album)

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same, but I don't actually have many Dylan albums so I'm far from an expert

Just Like A Woman might be the best one on that album. If I had to pick one that’d be it.

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 23, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you don't have many

I would recommend, Oh Mercy, Desire, Planet Mercy, and Time out of Mind

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Assuming

you already have Highway 61, Blonde on Blonde, Blood on the Tracks, Freewheeling, and Times They Are a Changing.

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

And new morning

and bringing it all back home. That should come close to covering it, skipping live albums.

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think what I have is:

Blonde on Blonde, Blood on the Tracks, Nashville Skyline, Bob Dylan’s Greatest Hits (the one from 1967), and Bob Dylan (1962)

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 23, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I have a live album... I think MTV Unplugged.

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 23, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

my fave is NIN - The Fragile

also like MBM – Subliminal Sandwich. I’m not even sure what exactly qualifies as a double album. I’m going the CD route (since a lot of double albums fit on one CD)

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

Subliminal Sandwich is a lot of fun.

If we’re counting 75-80’ albums released during the CD era, both Aenema & Lateralus should be mentioned….

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

glad someone has heard that one!

one of the best electronic music albums of all time imo. love both those tool albums… they lost me with that last one though, it was just ok.

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think 10K Days is a very good album

with a couple of lesser tracks. The good stuff is still pretty ridiculously good, and I think it’s clear they got even better with the mathy stuff post-Lateralus. (Vicarious, Jambi, Rosetta & Right In Two are as good as anything else they ever did IMHO.)

Sandwich is not my favorite MBM (gotta go with Actual Sounds), but it’s awfully fucking good. I actually got to see MBM live down the street from my place a few years back and it was just mind-blowing.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

my faves on 10000 days were the wings for marie songs

yeah, actual sounds is like the sequel. I too have seen them once, they are quite a good show! they have at least one guy who is just in charge of syncing the video with the audio. some of the best bass sounds and synths I’ve ever heard.

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I once sat down and charted Wings/10K Days

it’s a (very long) theme & variations form. I was kind of surprised.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm starting to be more afraid of the Brewers

I don’t know that current health of their starting rotation, but I don’t like seeing them so close in the standings.

by TheBirds on May 23, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Always more afraid of the Brewers...

They could get on a monster roll.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will you have to worry about them

after the trade deadline? My guess is they’ll do OK until July and then run out of scoring.

by sdrone on May 23, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greinke hasn't really pitched much

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

ummmm..

Zack fucking Greinke has 29 strikeouts and 2 walks in 21 IP

HOLY SHIT!

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

and a 6.43 ERA to show for it

I think it’s reasonable to be more worried about the Brewers in the long run than the Reds….

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I would say so.

How can someone like him have a 6.43 ERA and Batista have a 2.96 ERA. Baseball isn’t fair sometimes…

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

ERA is a horrible stat for relievers

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lawrie is hitting 350/410/600 in the minors...

just the guy they… nevermind.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

before being swept by Cleveland, they were 8-2

in their previous 10 games. They’ll hang around all season, somehow.

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by mattyp on May 23, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Fang:

16-0-0.

hehehehehehehehe

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by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

You were thoroughly gutted in fantasy last week.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know

it’s a keeper league. You could at least try to play for the future if you’re going to be in the league

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 23, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he's actually doing well.

The only reason he got zipped is because he didn’t have enough pitching inning to qualify for the stats. Having one starter will do that to a guy.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 24, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ Rains clearing a few things up
Cardinals also announce Laird to the 15-day DL and promotion of catcher Tony Cruz, who will wear No. 48.
Cardinals officially announce Mitchell Boggs optioned to Triple-A to make room for Skip Schumaker on the roster.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2011 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

It's our annual...

accumulate worthless players routine. Last year Stav, Miles, Soup, McD, Feliz. This year Batista, Kozma…. to go along with old standbys like Franky and Skip.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That one might be worth the $15 sponsor fee.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

man, i don't even know what to make of those kind of numbers

that ’80 season, he had an OPS+ of 100 and his OPS was .601

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ball was dead.

Hitting it was the equivalent of lamenting the trade for Theriot and the Brendan Ryan Trade.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That 1878 season sticks out like a sore thumb.

Never topped a .600 OPS or a 90 OPS+ up to that point, then all of a sudden he explodes with a .781 OPS, 150 OPS+, league-leading .375 OBP, ties his career high in doubles (10) at age 33? It is my opinion that this man was consuming substances intending to unnaturally enhance his base-ball performance, with utter disregard to law, tradition, and morals!

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by mattybobo on May 23, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

Oh yeah Mariners fans used that nickname for Gutierrez for awhile

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boggs?

Seriously Mo? Do you watch the games?

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

i'd guess no

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on May 23, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh. work time

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

brian broderick is a cardinal again.

nats recieve $25k. if i remember right, broderick was a nats rule 5 pick, correct?

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2011 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, a Rule V pick.

His MLB line with Washington: 6.57 ERA, 3.47 FIP, 2.92 K/9, 2.91 BB/9

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

How the hell does he have a 3.5 FIP with a 2.92 K/9?

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering the exact same thing.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even his xFIP of ~4.5 seems low for a 2.92 K/9

I DON’T UNDERSTAND

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

His tERA is 3.54.

60% GB rate, 15.6% LD rate, 24.4% FB rate, and 9.1% IFFB rate.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

he doesn't have to go on the 40-man does he?

Also, did Jess Todd get added to the 40-man or no? I didn’t see any corresponding roster move so I assume he didnt.

by mick311 on May 23, 2011 6:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

he did...

he had to be once he was acquired.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like the corresponding move was Augie to the 60 day.

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Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks,

Wow I guess I didn’t realice he was hurt that badly….wasn’t it just a groin strain?

by mick311 on May 23, 2011 6:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

A "strain" can be no big deal or a big deal. .

I think Augenstein’s tear was something more than a mere overstretch. His trip to the 60-day DL suggests a full-fledged tear.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

or a, would you prefer the 60 day, or DFA type of situation, as well.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Augenstein could be useful,

so I don’t think that we should have DFA’d him, especially when the flexible option of the 60-day DL was available to us. If he sustained a groin tear, then it was an unassailable move.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree....

I just gave up long ago as to the whys and what have yous of the 2011 Cards roster machinations. One guess is as good as another.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 23, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yea if he could come back and take the place

Of Batista as the long reliever I would be pretty happy. I just still think there are better options within the organization though. I know they wanted Todd to help out the bullpen in Memphis, but it seems like that open spot on the 40-man could of been put to better use, we still have alot of guys (or at least it seems that way to me) who seem to be ready for a shot at the major league level or capable of stepping in. At least for the bullpen it appears that way, I’d take Lynn, Dickson or Ottavino over Franklin or Batista, and I would definately prefer one of those three over any of the guys currently on the 40-man (King, Samuel, or Walters)…..not to mention Matt Carpenter would be a much better option that Kozma.

by mick311 on May 23, 2011 6:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

more like it

he was apparently stunned by the move

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on May 23, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean Todd right?

Well who got booted off the 40 man then? Or did Reifer hit the DL?

by mick311 on May 23, 2011 6:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

DAMN YOU WEST COAST GAMES

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 5:58 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Yeah

Being chided by the guy who complains about literally everything

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by mysterui on May 23, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yawn...

Cardinals are #1 in the BtB power rankings. Again.

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by mattybobo on May 23, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Pujols hasn't started yet.

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by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ducksnorts likes our chances:
Four things that promise to be more competitive than this series:

Harlem Globetrotters vs Washington Generals
Shooting fish in a barrel
Taking candy from a baby
Everything else in the world

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

guess we know who to blame when we get swept

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 23, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luhnow on the Fastlane talking up

Tavares…..says he may not play on Thursday and that he’s still pretty banged up.

by mick311 on May 23, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

They were pretty talented

Don’t Take Away the Music is one of my favorite songs…

by DiscoJer on May 23, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you mean Oscar Taveras?

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 23, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

espn insider article

there’s an espn insider article out there saying the cardinals have the best bench in the MLB so far. i don’t pay for access…anybody care to give a 2 sentence synopsis of the part re: the cardinals?

by theWizard on May 23, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I was going to write a post on this, but then Punto went on the DL,

and the Cards called up Kozma. And then Laird sustained a broken finger and went on the DL, too. Jay, Craig, and Punto have been outstanding.

Craig: .408 wOBA, 0.9 WAR
Jay: .374 wOBA, 0.8 WAR
Punto: .335 wOBA, 0.9 WAR

(Fangraphs WAR)

Laird and Descalso have had poor offensive starts, but their defense has been quite good. Tyler Greene? Well, he’s been a replacement-level player.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That BA is falling back to earth

His situational splits:

Descalso with RISP: .219/.386/.438/.824
Descalso with MOB: .208/.344/.354/.698
Descalso with bases empty: .200/.228/.291/.519

His OPS with RISP is still quite good, but I fear, with more and more playing time, all of these lines will even out to something approaching his overall line of .204/.288/.320/.609.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

well yes, he has

its not predictive of anything but he has been relatively clutch so far

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on May 23, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

apologies if lineup is nexdef'd

Theriot 6, Jay 7, Pujols 3, Berkman 9, Rasmus 8, Molina 2, Schumaker 4, Descalso 5, Lohse 1

padres: Denorfia RF, Bartlett SS, Ludwick LF, Hawpe 1B, Headley 3B, Maybin CF, Hudson 2B, Johnson C, Moseley P

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Managers seem to struggle with...

figuring out who to bat in the second spot. Bartlett and Jay here… and Dusty has Janish hitting ahead of Votto again.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay is a fine choice.

He has an OBP of .398 and a walk rate of 9%.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose...

I’d definitely put Rasmus up there, but Jay is probably a reasonable second choice.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 23, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Jay hitting 2nd

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll restrain my cynicism until I see the first weakly hit grounder to the MIF

then I’m gonna be pissed off, I can already tell

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on May 23, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

needs more holliday and freese

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

does anybody want a fresh thread to tide us over till the game?

i’m thinking the news and the late start merit one.

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on May 23, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

So long as it memorializes Brian Broderick's K/9!

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 23, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i'll try to mix that in.

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on May 23, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We still have 3 hours until the game?!

Yes, please do. I suspect it’ll be reasonably active around here, given it’s nearly normal game time.

by clank on May 23, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, look.

It’s Chase Utley.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on May 23, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

LMFAO

I hadn’t put that together yet, good call.

"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."

by nota bene on May 23, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Polanco picked a nice time to go yard.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on May 23, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

go phillips!

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

A while back I asked if people were watching Game of Thrones.

Got mostly “yeah, but meh, we’ll see.”

Given that I’ve stuck with it and it’s gotten AWESOME YOU GUYS SO AWESOME, I’m curious to see who is still with me.

by Pegasus on May 23, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm waiting to watch 'em later

excited to see the series though (I’m still watching The Wire)

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with OCD

got too late so I watched Treme live and will watch Game of Thrones tonight.

by ckeiner on May 23, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am with you on Game of Thrones

and very much enjoying. Last night’s wasn’t as great except the ending.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 23, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

hoping they only send Boggs down for a short time

or whatever
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of,

How pissed do you think Boggs is right now? He hasn’t pitched very badly, but he gets rewarded with a trip to AAA.

I mean that sucks.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on May 23, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be livid with guys like Franklin and Batista on the team

I am thinking they might be sending him a message on a personality issue? I have no idea.

or whatever
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

or

they are still thinking of him as possibly the new closer and they wanted to work on mechanics/not walking people?

or whatever
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

boggs is as pissed as

every other baseball player who has ever been optioned in his career.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure I agree

“Other nations do X” does not convince me that “America should do X”

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." -- Stan Musial

by mattybobo on May 23, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

workaholic

or whatever
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 24, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

(he doesn't even have a job!)

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 24, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

okay, overflow is up.

here-ish.

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11

by tom s. on May 23, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

5 - 0 Phillies

Good job, blondie.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on May 23, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

i looked away for a second and now it's 9-0

nice work, phillips

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone seen this macho man photo?

Link to SI article.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 23, 2011 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

He also went to SIU.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 23, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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