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A Broken Hand by Beaning Doesn't Make One 'Injury-Prone,' but It Does Make One Injured

One knew it was coming. Even though the tragic injury to Adam Wainwright has already threatened the season, there is always another injury or three, flies in the ointment of postseason dreams. Appendectomies don't really count, especially when the player feeds on them. But broken hands absolutely do, although hopefully not as gravely as glass ankles, torn lats, or motocross injuries. The closer shuffle pales in comparison to a many-weeks disabled list stint from a frozen rope hitting third baseman.

I was driving back to my apartment when Scott Linebrink let one get away into that dangerous up-and-in area that can do serious physical harm to a batter. The bones in the hand are relatively small and close to the skin, making a ninety-some MPH fastball readily capable of cracking them. A player getting beaned in the hand or wrist always makes me hold my breath. This has always been a fear of mine. It's why I always wore those stylish yet functional Mizuno padded batting gloves, made famous by Ricky Henderson sporting the neon-green model as he sculpted the bulk of his Hall-of-Fame career in Oakland. To this day I do not understand how every player does not wear batting gloves with padding on the portion covering the back of the hand. These days only a handful do and none of them is David Freese.

As the trainer saw to Freese's hand, Rooney's description only fed my anxiousness. He explained for the listening audience that, from the radio booth, he thought the pitch had hit Freese's bat because the sound it made was so loud. Even so, the trainer allowed Freese to stay in the game and run the bases. Even though a ballplayer need not even have hands to run the bases, this made me feel better about the beanball and Freese's health. I parked my car at the apartment, sat in it listening until the end of the half-inning (a practice I'm certain causes my neighbors to question my sanity) and went inside at the commercial. Then Freese did not come out to field his position in the home half of the inning and my worries flared up again.

Star-divide

Seemingly aware of the anxiousness about Freese and shorthanded in terms of utility infielders, La Russa did his level best to make us all forget about the possibly injured starting third baseman by engaging in a level of La Russan over-management that felt unparalleled in the storied annals of the field manager's anal attempts at controlling the game. Perhaps due to a virus targeting his brain, the Cardinals manager penciled Nick Punto into the leadoff spot as the starting second baseman. When Punto needed replacing due to injury, La Russa summoned Daniel Descalso, which left only Tyler Greene on the bench. When Freese was unable to continue, the manager inserted Greene at the keystone and shifted Descalso to the hot corner. Reasonable enough.

Maybe it was the virus attacking his cerebellum, mental fatigue from staying up late every night this week gaming out possible late-inning bullpen scenarios, or La Russa just wanting to distract us from worrying about Freese with tweets about his managerial decisions, but things got downright strange in the eighth. Representing the tying run, Matt Holliday led off with a double and was then advanced to third by Lance Berkman's productive groundout to former Cardinal dreamboat Joe Mather, who was playing first base for Atlanta on this May Day. Tyler Greene, the last infielder on the bench would bat with a chance to knot up the score. But it was the Hall-of-Fame manager who would twist and tie logic into an unsolvable knot by sending out left-handed outfielder Jon Jay to bat for Greene. Jay was given a free pass by the Braves, presumably to get to ground-into-double-play extraordinaire Yadier Molina. Molina thwarted this tactic though, lifting a sacrifice flyball to the outfield which allowed Holliday to score. Ryan Theriot had a chance to the slap a fliner to the shallow outfield for a Cardinals' lead, but struck out--looking, no less--and the Cardinals' half of the eighth ended with the clubs tied and La Russa with but two infielders at his disposal.

Descalso, who was initially subbed in at second base for the injured Punto and had moved to third for the injured Freese, moved back to second base. Theriot stayed a shortstop. Mark Hamilton replaced Jason Motte in the batting order and manned first base, which shifted Albert Pujols to third base for the first time since the pre-Rolen days of 2002. Adding to the inexplicable nature of his managing, Ryan Franklin was called upon in this tie game. Naturally, Chipper Jones led off the bottom of the eighth with a ball right to third base. Pujols was up to the challenge and recorded the assist in retiring his future fellow Hall-of-Famer. Brian McCann followed with a groundout and Dan Uggla flew out. Somehow, Franklin sat down the heart of the Atlanta order one, two, three.

We all know how the game ended, with Theriot knocking a flyball out to the ground with the heel of his glove and Franklin again proving himself unable to wriggle out a jam. It was unfair for the manager to have him enter a tie game in the eighth and that unfairness increased exponentially when he was left in and asked to get another three outs. Without swing-and-miss stuff and relying on the luck of contact, a pitcher can and will get dinged for runs on a combination of errors, walks, and gorkers. Yesterday was probably Franklin's best outing since, well, I don't know when, but it served to further drive home that the smoke and mirrors of his grand prestige have been revealed and it seems the illusion is dead, the magic long gone. But the wailing caused by Franklin Meltdown IX (or was this X?) was a sideshow distraction for the news on Freese's maimed hand.

What was diagnosed as a "hand contusion" during the game was given the more serious diagnosis after the game of a broken bone. Freese hits the 15-day disabled list today and the next half-dozen or so weeks will probably resemble yesterday's game with some combination of Punto, Greene, Descalso, and possible the healed Allen Craig combining to fill the void in production that no one was going to give us moving forward, not even Freese. His .366 BA and 4.4% walk rate combined or a .396 OBP, all rest on the shaky long-term foundation of a .468 BABIP. Nonetheless, the drop off between normal-luck Freese and Punto or Descalso with the bat is a steep one and with the ham-handed Berkman and Theriot already standing at two defensive positions, one wonders if La Russa will value leather work or just triple down on offensive production in the form of Craig.

Whatever the manager opts for, now is not a good time for the Cards to lose their starting third baseman. The 17-9 Marlins come a-callin' this very evening. Indeed the next seven days will be a stiff test for the first-place Redbirds as the Brewers will make their first trip to Busch for this weekend's series. St. Louis could use all hands on deck.

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it's the curse of scotty

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 2, 2011 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Curse of Citron

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Greene 6, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Freese 5, Molina 2, pitcher, The Riot 4

by gocards62 on May 2, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

*Cintron

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Greene 6, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Freese 5, Molina 2, pitcher, The Riot 4

by gocards62 on May 2, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, no

Scotty himself is not responsible for the curse. but our third basemen are doomed as long as he is in the division and does not take a turn at third base in Busch Stadium.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 2, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

like the drummers for Spinal Tap

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Greene 6, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Freese 5, Molina 2, pitcher, The Riot 4

by gocards62 on May 2, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's the one

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 2, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Six blade(s) knife

Of course the craziest Tony option would be to move Albert to third base and use Berkman or Hamilton over at first. (DISCLAIMER: I am not suggesting this as an intelligent, viable option that wouldn’t scare the crap out of any rational & knowledgeable Cardinal fan. Just a possibility.) He would play a few games over at the other corner until Craig becomes available and Hamilton gets sent down.

I don’t know if messing with Matt Carpenter is worth it at this point, with Descalso available and Craig soon to be. But I think this really depends on Punto’s health and who they would call up to replace him, if need be.

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on May 2, 2011 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

welllll......

Albert’s only under contract for this year, so perhaps we can afford to risk him blowing out his elbow?
[ducks…]

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Local radio sportscaster said the same thing this morning

that is, Albert at 3rd, Puma at 1st for a while. I don’t think that will happen, we’ll see Craig there (who, iirc, is eligible to come off the DL today or tomorrow) before we would see Albert. I imagine Descalso will get the next couple of starts until they’re convinced Craig is ready to come off his re-hab.

by ArkansasTravs on May 2, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

What a weird way to start the year

Depending on just how much you turn the “small sample size scroll wheel” to scale it so far, this has been either a really bad start to the season or a really awesome start to the season.

Serious question: I know there are a few different ways of looking at it, but are we, at this moment, one of the best teams in baseball? I am only talking about right now. I am not making predictions about the rest of the season (you hear that GOBs?), or about pre-season expectations, just the first month. Have we merely been lucky? Have we actually just been playing very well, overall (and despite struggles from key players such as Pujols and the zombified being that was once Ryan Franklin)? This question might only serve as a Rorschach test for how much you weigh recent performance and w/l records in your evaluation of a team, but eh. It’s fun to think about. Nobody expected the Indians to start off so awesome either.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

no, defense still an issue

bman has done better than many predicted
mr t has been what many expected
the return of the skipperdoodle will likely take us down another notch
need to make an effort to not waste this stretch of good pitching by not catching the ball

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on May 2, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

also
need to make an effort to not waste this stretch of good pitching by

having the ability to close a game.

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.

by Dave Pendleton on May 2, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel pretty ambivalent about it myself, still

I’m definitely enjoying that we are doing well so far. This team has been exciting to watch, if nothing else.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's asking about how good we are at this moment...

We’re as good now as we were at the beginning of the year – slightly better to account for McClellen and Lohse and a slightly worse to account for Freese and Franky/Miller.

Still an 86 win team.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 2, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, how good we've been so far is part of how good we are now

But that’s a good point.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not really that important...

You think about all the component parts that have caused us to do well – the hitting specifically… I wouldn’t say any of the gaudy numbers that Berkman, Holliday, etc have put up changes what I would think their true talent is.

So if our outlook on the players isn’t much different than it was at the beginning of the season, how can the team be much better?

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 2, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

An 86-win team with a couple of games lead over Milwaukee and 5 months to go

probably still wins the league 5 times out of 10, at least.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

the reds, sans rolen and cueto, really aren't that great

they’ve got a lot of solid players but there’s nothing there to fear if you can pitch round votto.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet

I also see we have the highest division % in baseball.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I continue to really enjoy how good we've looked so far in rankings like that

I still worry that it’s dependent on a temporary offensive explosion and that we’ll crash back down to earth at some point. But at the moment it’s really fun.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Basically, I feel like we are, at the moment at least, playing very well

I don’t know how long it will last, or if this is the “true face” of the team, but I also don’t think we’ve lucked our way into first place after a month.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've been pleasantly surprised

given all the problems we’ve encountered. If we convert half of the blown saves to date, we’re way out in front and challenging the Fish for best record.

On the other hand, the defense, with the exception of Berkman who has done better than most though, has been a big disappointment, as bad, or maybe even worse, than many feared last winter.

by ArkansasTravs on May 2, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this

I don’t know how long Lohse can keep this up, the bullpen still needs stablizing, Berkman and Holliday are due to come back to Earth soon, I’m keeping the faith on Pujols but getting more worried by the day, Freese just got nuked for 4-6 weeks…I’m pretty worried, to be totally frank.

by mojowo11 on May 2, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i suppose i kinda agree

my worry is that, with the exception of pujols and maybe yadi, there’s no-one i really think could be playing a vast amount better. As in – it can only go downhill, perhaps…

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have done

Danny to third, Pujols to second, Berkman to first, and Jay to right field.

Which would have left me Hamilton on the bench.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

yes, some form of this should have happened

then Hamilton would have pinch hit for Franky in the ninth and he could have got out of the day with a positive outing and possibly built some confidence.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't think you Pujols trying to keystone a DP.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

want*

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

but I do want that

I’m mostly concern with his arm on long throws. And he has played second more recently than first.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am convinced Albert can do anything baseball-related.

it’s just his body that we have to worry about.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 2, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

he can't swing a bat like Pedro Feliz.

He has his limits.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if he gets taken out by a slide?

Twists an ankle or tries to throw too hard to get rid of the ball on a DP and still ends up hurting his elbow? Where will we be then? I’d rather him be able to catch a ball take his time and throw then try to do something like turn a DP.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

and if he breaks a rib because he lands on third base diving for a ball?

What if he is batting and someone hits him in the hand? What if he gets taken out by scott rolan rounding third? What if he was sitting on top of the dugout bench, slipped and cracked his head?

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

Cards’ bad luck aside, 2B is a much more dangerous position to play than 3B.

by SouthsideCardsFan on May 2, 2011 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Freeze

Real tough loss. Freeze was a big part of the reason the heart of the lineup had been so productive. Bad news; the good news is he gets to take at least a month off the possible pressure on his ankle, and maybe Carpenter comes up from Memphis and gets a chance to shine. I hope they take a look at him. Go Birds…

by deweydell on May 2, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

His offense was kind of lost in the shuffle, I think

I honestly didn’t realize he currently is sporting a .382 wOBA

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

He helped make that lineup more than the sum of it’s parts. Kind of a synergy thing. In some ways, he was as important as Berkman.

by deweydell on May 2, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Tony is starting to stretch Franklin out

so he can take up the all important role of pitching when up/down by a lot. If Tony is he chose a horrible time to do it though.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on May 2, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

nah...

he want’s Franklin to get his mojo back and eventually be a good and trusted reliever again.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 2, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Putting him in there yesterday might be a way of helping to work towards that goal

But I don’t see how leaving him out for a second inning was a good idea, even if we assume Tony was trying to do this.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah..

bad move. At the very least bring in Sanchez to face Conrad.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 2, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or something. I honestly don't remember who was available at that point, I was too busy preparing myself for a walk-off loss.

I realize we have to live with the fact that Franklin probably isn’t this bad and has some sort of role this year still. But I just don’t get putting him out there for a second inning.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the only reason we didn't lose another game of the series...

was due to Batista’s insane luck during that 8th inning he pitched on Saturday. We have to get rid of those two right away…

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 2, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who would be next in line to replace them?

I wonder if we would trade for a reliever.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Adam Ottavino

He’s looking like Mitch Boggs in Memphis, lots of strikeouts, more walks than make me comfortable, but another hard-throwing right-hander who might best be suited for bullpen work.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on May 2, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

DFA batista

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

His shoulder still scares the crap out of me.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

franklin pitched very well yesterday

that loss rests squarely on the ham-handed one at SS

by _pistol_ on May 2, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

he allowed a runner on first to score.

closers have to be able to get strikeouts. if he gets a strikeout at some point that inning, he gets out of it.

but, he has 3 strikeouts on the season to go with this 4 walks, 4 homeruns, and 1 HBP

get some runs

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on May 2, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had more confidence in Boggs or Sanchez

overcoming an error and getting out of that inning than Franklin.

I’m sorry that TLR didn’t see it that way.

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Greene 6, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Freese 5, Molina 2, pitcher, The Riot 4

by gocards62 on May 2, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Theriot had like about the worst game I've seen by a Cardinal player in recent memory

That GB to third base with the bases loaded and no outs, with the pitcher on-deck, was pretty appalling; about the only place he could have hit it to NOT bring in at least a run.

THEN the strikeout looking in (?) the 8th with men in scoring position. THEN the horrific error.

I’ve liked Theriot this year, mostly, and will accept his mediocre glove if he keeps getting on base, but that game last night was squarely on his shoulders.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

all you said there, and more

second worst for me (I can live with the GIDP, at least he swung, and made contact; and even with the dropped pop-up, embarrassing but things like that do happen, this one just came at a horrible time) was the first pop-up/flare that he couldn’t get to, ok, but then he lets the lead-legged and weak-armed Holliday come in and deal with runners trying to advance. Theriot didn’t so much dog it as he skanked. He was closer to retrieve than Holliday was, but maybe he figured Matt has a better arm (which is a hell of a note right there, since calling Holliday’s arm ‘average’ is being generous).
Amen, The worst thing a player can do on defense (physical errors happen) is to not hustle. And the very worst thing on offense is to take a (legit) called third strike, especially if you are the likes of Ryan f-ing Theriot, who is NOT mandated to be “looking for his pitch” on a two-strike count

by thetewk on May 2, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony?

Is that you?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's pretty sick Tony...

I mean really, have you looked at yourself in the mirror lately?

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on May 2, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think HOlliday's arm is that bad, as far as I can see

I’d say “average”, maybe even a touch above for a LF. Theriot’s arm is BAD, so I don’t especially mind him letting holliday take that throw.

Still, your point stands – Theriot is NOT looking great in the field right now.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has Hummel Reported this yet?

Jonny “goon” Gomes came into morning practice singing, Bin Laden is Dead, Bin Laden is Dead….

by swmrnbk on May 2, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

i'll give him a pass on that one.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

In case you care, and I don't expect you to

Water is flowing over the emergency spillway at Wappapello Lake. Not a big deal, except it has washed out the highway behind it and the water is expected to rise enough to close Hwy 60 between Fisk and Dexter. This means I will not be going home tonight and will have to stay with my parents and leave poor Mrs. Scoot home alone. No telling when the water will go down. Sucks.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

she is safe

we live on a hill, have a dog, plenty food, and rifles which she knows how to use. Plus she can get out and around just fine. The problem is between here and there

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

that is a given

just don’t expect her to bait her own hook

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

depends on her mood

and the fish. If it has teeth, no way

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what lures are for.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fucking bait fishermen.....

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't usually fish with bait

was just making a point that Mrs. Scoot is fine as long as she doesn’t have to bait a hook. I’d be a respectable fisherman if you’d invite me up and build me a fly rod. . .

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you come up,

I will build you a fly rod. Open invitation.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will remember this

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Notice two words there.

Fly and open. Be afraid, scoot. Be very afraid.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is kind of an asshole comment...

I care about the well-being of Mrs. Scoot.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 2, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

That phrasing has never been used on VEB, to my knowledge.

My comment was in response to scoot saying “In case you care, and I don’t expect you to” as a reassurance that we do care.

by Ghostrider520 on May 2, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

I understood it the first time I read it

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best of luck to you and yours.

The flooding is crazy this year. I have a good buddy from Cairo (he lives in St Louis now, but his folks are still there). That’s a hell of a situation right there.

The cake is a lie.

by a fink on May 2, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

my best wishes to Mrs. Scoot

hopefully you will be able to return home soon.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on May 2, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

FORD THE RIVER, SCOOT

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I drive a Prius

if I try to ford the river, I’ll die of electrocution!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Since it's water, it would help if were powered by a Tritan engine.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I know that was a stretch, all I could come up with.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The punishment might seem a little Chevy

but Hyundai he’ll thank you.

It’s like the time my pa caught me smoking. He bought a box of Jeep cigars and made me smoke every last one as a lesson.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Damn.

How Mini cigars was that?

by Ghostrider520 on May 2, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I think there are Saab-en to a box

But I Audi check…

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't have to procrastinate anymore.
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11

by hr on May 2, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Unfortunately, he went honda do nothing of real value afterward.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I'll admit, this is an Acura assessment.

To say otherwise really Benz the truth.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Yeah, back to baseball please.

What’s the name of that young Yankee pitcher? Ivan something or other? What his his last name again?

The cake is a lie.

by a fink on May 2, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes lets talk ball

That Stanley fellow sure was one heck of a Steamer, what was his last name? Musial

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on May 2, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgive me for what I started.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Latest WAG

puts water going over 60 on Thursday so if this is correct I’ll get to go home tonight! Unfortunately we are dealing with flooding that hasn’t happened since 1945 and the highway structure has changed quite a bit since then so they really are just giving it their best guess about what is going to happen.

Where are our roadway engineer posters anway? They should be weighing in on this!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have been wondering if the flooding was the normal stuff that always happens

or a bigger event like 92-93. i’ve only seen the river up on 60 a few times so it sounds pretty bad. hope y’all are OK

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is bigger than 92-93

for this area at least. Dutchtown is pretty much completely under water. They built a 4 foot levy on top of the highway over there. At one point it was right up to 55 south of Cape. This is the first time Wappapello has cleared the emergency spillway since 1945 so it’s kind of a big deal.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just heard from my grandmother that Golconda, IL is installing their flood gates

River at 55.59 feet, over 1997’s high and currently second highest reading in its history since the flood of 1937 (62.6’).

They didn’t install them in 1997.

From other family accounts, this is definitely bigger than 92-93. Yeesh.

by TBender on May 2, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

my neighbor told me he had 20 inches of rain in his gauge in the last week

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Advance

and I don’t doubt it one bit. We have had several nights of 5+ inches of rain in the last week

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's interesting because

I’ve been looking at flood maps the last day or so. With the Ohio, it’s obvious Indiana is getting nasty rain the the Wabash is bringing that into the Ohio.

For whatever reason, the Mississippi maps are nowhere near as good, and it’s harder to tell what part of the river are at various flood stages.

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is most often being compared to 1937

Which was, to use an overused word – epic.

The Ohio peaked at Cairo in 1937 at 64’. It’s expected to peak at Cairo this week at 61’. The levee walls were built for a 64’ river, but they don’t think it’s gonna hold at that level.

Hence the plan to explode levees downstream. I can’t find data on how much river depth the planned flooding is supposed to handle.

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit

My cousins own a large property right on the shore of Lake Wappapello.

by FlimtotheFlam on May 2, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure if serious

where? Like 99.99% of the shoreline is owned by the Corps of Engineers

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel bad for Freese.

And it is a tough loss for this team. But, I feel comfortable that the 2011 Cardinals will weather this loss much more ably than the 2010 version.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on May 2, 2011 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, the problem is you aren't likely to get both offense and defense from his replacement.

Maybe Descalso conjures up another offensive explosion, but it is doubtful. Craig could replace Freese’s bat but at what expense defensively?

by Ghostrider520 on May 2, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone can play third base.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would be great if we had a prospect in our system with the last name of "Anyone".

Then every statement with the word “anyone” would have to be qualified.

Mozeliak: Well we just didn’t see anyone available.
Strauss: He’s at AAA Memphis, how could Anyone be any more available?
Mozeliak: No, not him, “anyone” in general. Of course Anyone is available, but Anyone isn’t ready yet. Everyone is in agreement.
Strauss: [Blank stare].

by Ghostrider520 on May 2, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

I Don't Know is the correct reply

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Greene 6, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Freese 5, Molina 2, pitcher, The Riot 4

by gocards62 on May 2, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I hear Pedro has been working out.....

best shape of his life.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pedro Marinez?

Because he’d probably be more useful at 3B than the guy you’re talking about.

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on May 2, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he means Pedro Guerrero

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I knew it before i clicked on it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is true.

but, our situation doesn’t seem as precarious as last year. Either way, I hope he gets healthy soon.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on May 2, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Descalso has looked REALLY good with the glove though

I’d hope Tony goes for some sort of platoon option with either Descalso (good glove, mediocre bat) or Carpenter (good bat, mediocre glove) on the left-side and maybe Craig from the right.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Carpenter is such an obvious replacement

it makes me mad that his name isn’t even in the conversation

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 2, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obvious but for the fact that he is not currently on the 40-man roster.

If he were, I bet he’d already be in St. Louis.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 2, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't expect a quick bounceback

and recovery on Freese’s broken hand injury. It usually takes a year before you can really swing the bat as evidenced by J.D. Drew and Andres Gallaraga from recent memory. Drew had a fantastic early season going and did little the rest of the year after coming back. The Cardinals traded for Gallaraga and he had a good spring training and early star,t then was hit on the hand and suffered broken bones and the same thing happened. He couldn.t hit a lick after he came back.
The Cardinals gave up on him and Colorado picked him up the next year and he starred for them for about the next 6 years…

But this is not the real problem which is the SS position. Theriot will hit well enough but will he adaquate defensevly. I have serious doubts.

by ridgesee on May 2, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

also -

Mark DeRosa.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

hand does not equal wrist

The location of the injury is key. I believe it is being reported that his injury occurred to a metacarpal, not a carpal. Carpals are often labeled hand bones, but function as the wrist and are much more important, take longer to heal, and have a greater negative impact on the player.

That being said, I expect Freese to be out 6-8 weeks, but he should be the same player when he gets back

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

BACKSTORY!!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He goes into Josh's Starbucks.

Mo used to go into Josh’s old store, but they closed it and Josh got transferred.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on May 2, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

well he had more info than me

the plating is the issue. Apparently Freese’s bones really are made of glass.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Different bone

Not the same at all

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Confirmation!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get me a pair of umbros and we'll just call it a childhood.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is disturbing.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

(Psst, it's not really a picture of you, Fritz)

(I think nomar34 just found that on the interweb somewhere)

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

unless it really is a pic of Fritz.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hair is very similar...

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, well, in that case it's probably time to freak out.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he only invited me to his Derby party

i wouldn’t had to have bust that out…does he not know how much i love mint juleps and big hats?

Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Yeah, I have a Twitter...big whoop...wanna fight about it?

by nomar34 on May 2, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone is invited!

Except you. Now.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

son of a bitch.

Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Yeah, I have a Twitter...big whoop...wanna fight about it?

by nomar34 on May 2, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

when i played in high school i wore every piece of protection i could

and i probably didn’t face anyone who threw faster than the low 80’s. i can’t imagine stepping foot in the batters box now in MLB facing a guy throwing high 90’s with no protection

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every protection you could?

Did you wear one of those facemask things on your helmet?

Ultimately we all choose how much protection we want to wear and weigh that against how comfortable/unhindered we want to be, I think.

by mojowo11 on May 2, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Count me as an unbeliever in the 17-9 Marlins

but this injury still really sucks. I felt that we could survive the Waino injury and still be a contender this year if we got otherwise very lucky with injuries and had no-one else out. I’m not convinced Freese is going to be much of a factor now for the rest of the year.

Any chance of a Matt Carpenter sighting before the year’s out, I wonder? HIs near 1:1 K:BB ratio at AAA is highly intriguing, and he’s got a .360 wOBA despite some seeming bad luck on balls in play. Does anyone doubt he could come up right away and be a league-average hitter? A Carpenter-Craig platoon, whilst it gives away some defensive value compared to Freese (and results in problems with both the 25-man and 40-man roster crunch, as I don’t believe Carpenter’s on the 40 yet) is actually quite probably a better offensive unit than Freese himself, so I suppose if we’re willing to risk the booted balls it might be the way to go.

Still, 3rd freak injury in 3 seasons. Pretty crappy for the iceman.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

They need to chuck PJ off the 40 man.

We know of his usefulness and there just isn’t any. If we get to him, then we’re screwed anyway.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defense be damned

Lets see Craig at 3B and batting 6th.

get some runs

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on May 2, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I love me some allen craig, but chris carpenter

Just invented a whole new expletive at the thought of a craig-theriot-skip infield (well, once skip is back).

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11

by tom s. on May 2, 2011 12:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm also in favor of a defensively abled body

now would be a good time for pujols to start playing like a player who wants to get paid

by martimeryard on May 2, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think his problem is that

he HAS been playing like a player who wants to get paid…

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on May 2, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only it were Craig/Punto/Greene/Pujols

The dropoff wouldn’t be near as large.

http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz

by hazel on May 2, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poor Freese

This happened to me twice. It really sucks.

by LandSickness on May 2, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Jaime Garcia is sitting at the table next to me at First Watch

He is getting much better service than me.

"And that youngster will leave the stadium with a souvenir today. Not a ball, but a nice looking bruise."- Mike Shannon

by wizard11 on May 2, 2011 12:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Must.not.say.it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe that's part of the reason for your crappy service

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

HOTME

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions

by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

always bring an emergency towel!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 2, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be surprised if this has never appeared on VEB, but eh.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds of the time

my brother told my HS baseball team to bulk up and that a good source of protein is semen.

by martimeryard on May 2, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody know a good cookbook?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cookbook or coc... Ah, forget it.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on fritz

have the courage of your convictions…

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if I'm more scared or intrigued that this exists

Link

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't have to procrastinate anymore.
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11

by hr on May 2, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of surprised there wasn't as much recognition...

Because this is definitely what I was referring to, and I learned of it because I (ill-advisedly) clicked a link on VEB one time.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jaime update

Some Spanish speaking women were sitting half way between him and me and were talking in Spanish about how guapo (handsome) he was, not knowing he (and I a little) spoke spanish. It took everything he had not to smile

"And that youngster will leave the stadium with a souvenir today. Not a ball, but a nice looking bruise."- Mike Shannon

by wizard11 on May 2, 2011 9:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The lady that used to cut my hair spoke Spanish

She was in line at the grocery one day and a couple of guys in line behind her started talking about her looking good, nice body, etc., in Spanish. She said they looked like they wanted to drop through the floor when she turned around and starting talking to them (I forget what she told me she told them).

by ArkansasTravs on May 3, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

the high today is 56

wth?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

HAH....

61 here…..spring might have shown up.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just setting you up, man.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

first thing i thought of when i saw it, too

i wonder if the color is coincidence or not

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to see, though 3 walks in 6 IP isn't great

Seriously though, what is up with the 9:35AM start times in Palm Beach?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on May 2, 2011 1:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Freese wasn't beaned

Freese was hit by a pitch. Not the same thing as being beaned.

“Beaned” means “hit in the head” (head = bean).

That’s like calling every run a “home run,” like my little sister used to do.

by salvomania on May 2, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

also

i always used “beaned” as an intentional (or likely intentional) HBP (or off a brushback). I think in freese’s case it was just an up-and-in pitch that he lost control of.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe that's what it mean originally

But I’m pretty sure that at this point, beaning simply means an intention HBP, regardless of whether it hits the head or not.

by mojowo11 on May 2, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't hate on me here for wishing...

But I hope they call up Matt Carpenter and he just steals (with hitting and defense) the starting spot from Freese when he gets back.

Yes, I am certain of this.

by Heisenberg on May 2, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

If that means

he hits as well or better than Freese has so far in his two Aprils + one May, then I’m all for it too (although I’d feel somewhat bad for Freese not getting the chance to have two full years).

by ArkansasTravs on May 2, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

well duh.

who wouldn’t?

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on May 2, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are those who would prefer the Batman returns and gets his spot back

I know the broken hand isn’t Freese’s fault, but he just has really back luck with injuries.

Yes, I am certain of this.

by Heisenberg on May 2, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

bad*

Yes, I am certain of this.

by Heisenberg on May 2, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that happens, then we'd just have to convert Freese to a second baseman

And watch as our offense destroys all opposition, and then marches on to conquer over half of the population of the world, making it the largest empire since the Achaeminids who ruled over approximately 45% of all people at its height in the 5th century BCE.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

YEAH!

FUCK those Archeminids, and their PUNK-ASS empire!!!!

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Darius was all "I'm gonna just take care of these pesky Greeks"

and then the Greeks were all “now we’re gonna have to kick your butt dude.” And so they did! And then his son Xerxes was all “I’m gonna do it better with a bigger army and fleet” and he got his butt kicked even more. Psh.

Also, I think we both misspelled Achaemenid.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Puma!
SI_JonHeyman‎ Lance berkman will be announced shortly as winner of his second player of the week award already this year.

by Ghostrider520 on May 2, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Strauss on Bernie says

Craig will be activated today. Don’t know if it was mentioned….he also thinks we will see Craig at third v LHP.

by mick311 on May 2, 2011 2:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Florida is throwing 4 righties this series.

So Craig might only pinch-hit unless TLR thinks Berkman needs a break.

by Ghostrider520 on May 2, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Descalso or Punto I would assume.

With Greene filling in at 2B sometimes (read never).

by Ghostrider520 on May 2, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

poor Greene

I don’t get why Punto gets all the playing time.

by mikey_mac on May 2, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Greene better than Punto?

I’m not sure there’s much evidence of that.

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by azruavatar on May 2, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB as a whole vastly overestimates how good Greene is, I think

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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

His upside is considerable

Power, speed, arm strength

I don’t think he makes enough contact to be a regular in the Major Leagues, however, and I don’t think he’s the caliber of defender that Punto is. As it stands, he’s probably about equal to Punto offensively and probably a tier below Punto defensively

FutureRedbirds is doing that thing where it shows the mobile site right now, so I can’t get to the article right now, but Greene’s minor league K% numbers are not conducive to major league success

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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I guess it was only for college stats

Greene’s name is still on there, though

Link

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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

even at SS?

i would think Punto is definitely a tier above at 2B, but at SS, Punto’s arm and range are both eclipsed by Greene, no? And offensively, unless you’re just looking to move a runner over, Greene is going to be the better option against LHP, if just slightly.

by mikey_mac on May 2, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

All indications are that Punto has been an elite defender no matter what position he plays

Tyler Greene ZiPS: .239/.303/.379

Punto ZiPS: .238/.327/.315

I don’t believe Punto shows a very big platoon split

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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greene's OPS is ~50 points higher against LHP than RHP

with all the TLR talk about keeping his bench engaged, Greene has not been getting nearly the playing time i would expect, considering what i see as a pretty small diff between he and Punto

by mikey_mac on May 2, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think those projections look about right, actually

though I’d imagine Greene might have a slightly higher average in the fullness of time, given his more recent MiLB numbers.

I’d guess they’ll be similar defenders, though I agree we should give Punto the benefit of any doubt because of his prior record (and he’s looked very sharp with the glove this year already).

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly, lean

no one sees greene as an everyday player, but he gets no starts while punto starts daily, batting leadoff? this feels like a big difference in evaluation, when in reality, they seem like rather similarly valuable players

by mikey_mac on May 2, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Greene has a similar projection

Is probably a similarily good defensive player, is younger and is cheaper.

this is a no brainer, no?

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

and with more upside

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 2, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we sure he's as good defensively?

I am not, though I base that on nothing but the observation that few guys are as good at defense as Punto.

by Pegasus on May 2, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he were similarly good defensively, yeah, it'd be a no brainer

I’m not convinced he is

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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

he seems to be to me

Greene looks amazing out there.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure he has any "upside"

he is what he is now. I reckon a .310-320 wOBA with plus defence at 2B/average defence at SS is plausible, though, which is about league average over a full season I think.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he's already 27, which I think a lot of people forget

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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

and FWIW I broadly agree about the K%

and never wanted to see him near the team until last year – his last 18 months in Memphis he really cut the K’s down. I still think he’ll strikeout at around the 25-30% rate in the majors, which is probably very, very marginal for any sort of success, especially as he doesn’t walk, but a .270-ish BA doesn’t seem out of the realms of possibility, and he’ll hit a dinger now and again, as well as being a truly exceptional baserunner.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy glans.

Beat me to it.

My delivery was going to be better, though…

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bachman Turner Overdrive?

then yes. HELLS YES!

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by nomar34 on May 2, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is more upside a good thing?

Like, if two players have the exact same mean projection, but one has a smaller variance than the other, which one would you pick?

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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I would say Punto's downside is just as large as Greene's

The projections are median, not mean usually.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

bullocks, the damn side ads are back & FF4 isn't blocking it

don’t know about anyone else but i’m exhausted. i got maybe an hour of sleep because i was so excited about getting osama, then i had a nightmare i got into a bad car wreck & couldn’t falls back to sleep. and my interview sucked. there was a married guy with kids interviewing for the same gig & he will for sure get it. f’ing people married people with kids always get hired before me. i don’t know why i’m punished for not polluting the earth with tiny mouth breathers who leach off of everything & everyone. hell i should be celebrated!

f’ing bastards

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm sick of being discriminated against because i'm single without kids

it’s f’ing bullshit. i’ve got bills just like everyone else & just because i’m not stupid enough to breed doesn’t mean i’m less qualified to work at a f’ing grocery store. its means i’m more than qualified because i won’t be calling in because baby jackhole # 5 has chicken pox out the ass or needs to be picked up from school. but noooooooo, that’s not how people see it & it’s wrong. f the world. it can DIF

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep, i can't tell you how many times i've been told i look irresponsible

because i’m in my early 30’s & have never been married & don’t have kids

insanity

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do they know you don't have kids?

personal life questions have never come up in an interview for me fortunately

by mikey_mac on May 2, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

And why haven’t you started lying when they ask?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

How would you know how to lie?

Usually having them is the problem.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 2, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

every interiview i've been on has asked

i’ve lied pretty much about everything else, i might as well start lying about this too

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't. Sounds like bad luck more than anything.

Having kids is generally not considered a plus in the workplace.

The cake is a lie.

by a fink on May 2, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is a question that is illegal to ask.

They can’t ask how old you are, if your married, if you have kids, if you like to diddle cats, etc.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Legal or not

after the serious part of the interview is over, I talk about other stuff. Hobbies, family, whatever.

If it looks like you’re hiding stuff from me, that’s a problem.

Also, I doubt it’s illegal to ask if they have kids. Perhaps you mean you can’t make a decision based on that. There’s nothing about avoiding those questions in our HR guidelines.

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless your workplace is outside the U.S.

in which case I have no idea about laws in other countries.

by Ghostrider520 on May 2, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

right.

My mom is the HR director for the state prison system. I just called her to double check, and asking if someone is married or has kids is in direct violation of the EEOC.

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by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me get this straight

You called your mom to verify your internet argument?

I’m not telling you your mom is wrong, but HR training at 2 different companies has not told me to avoid these questions.

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, yes I did.

And the HR training that my company has put me through tells me same thing.

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by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

and like ghosty said,

you’re setting yourself up for failure if you ask those questions. I guarantee, that if I was in an interview and was asked if I had any kids, whether I did or not, the first thing I would do as I was walking out the door of that place would be to make a phone call to my attorney.

ALSO, I’m pretty sure IHB will verify all of this.

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by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

What you just typed

“I guarantee, that if I was in an interview and was asked if I had any kids, whether I did or not, the first thing I would do as I was walking out the door of that place would be to make a phone call to my attorney.”

says you’re not someone most people want to employ.

The letter of the law says it’s illegal to make decisions based on on that info. The letter of the law does not say you can’t ask the questions. HR guidelines at places of employment say that.

If I have a casual conversation with you after the interview in an attempt to get to know you, and you call the authorities – can you guess what the results of your job interview are going to be?

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The same thing can be said about the company.

If “getting to know” a potential candidate involves questions about marital status, kids, etc. instead of work experience, hobbies, etc. then I don’t want to work for the company.

In my experience, any information retrieved during an interview is for the purpose of making a hiring decision.

If the candidate voluntarily discloses the information, that’s one thing. But just the act of the interviewer asking the questions is unethical.

by Ghostrider520 on May 2, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

“casual” or not, it is illegal to ask such questions. Again, if the interviewee starts talking on his own, that’s on him, but you can’t ask about family, religion, race, creed, etc., etc.

by ArkansasTravs on May 2, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because I stand up for my rights,

does not mean that I’m not someone that most people would want to employ. I have a great work history, and a great job.

If I was to ask the next person I interview if he/she is married, etc, I would, most likely, no longer have this job.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

link-a-link-a-dink

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11

by tom s. on May 2, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, a quick google search brought this document from Pacific University.

The first thing on the Document, entitled legal or illegal interview questions:

The following is a representative list of questions with a short analysis of each question
to determine whether it is an unacceptable or acceptable question and why. It is not allinclusive.
1. How many children do you have?
This question is inappropriate for two reasons.
First, questions regarding marital status, number of children and childcare arrangements are not
appropriate because they may be seen as being based upon the applicant’s gender. Under Title VII
of the Civil Rights Act, it is unlawful to deny a female applicant employment because she has
children or is planning to have a child at some future date. Second, this question is an
inappropriate way of asking about an otherwise appropriate subject: availability to work.
Questions asked to availability to work should be job-related. For example: What hours can you
work? What shift(s) can you work? Can you work on weekends and/or holidays? Are there
specific times that you cannot work? Do you have responsibilities other than work that will
interfere with specific job requirements such as traveling?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

As the document says....

It is inappropriate to ask the question. It is illegal to use the info to make an employment decision.

And of course you should note that all those issues are gender issues – for FEMALES.

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm done.

I just hope you have a good legal team when this bites you in the ass.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

That distinction is correct.

But in practice, it’s not a distinction. Whether you did or did not use it to make an employment decision is a question a court’s going to answer, if and when it comes to that. You’re always better off not letting a court get to that point. You do that by not asking the question in the first place.

[nothing in the forgoing was legal advice because obviously and also because it’ll be about nine months before I’m licensed to practice]

by Pegasus on May 2, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing that would make a married w/ kids person more attractive

is that they’d probably be more likely to stick around long-term, what with the “baby jackhole” to feed and what-not.
Could it be that you’re giving the impression that you don’t want to be there long-term (which you don’t)?

The cake is a lie.

by a fink on May 2, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i try really hard not to do that

i always say no matter what the job is i plan on staying for years

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's on the applications, they ask how many dependents you have

then they always go over it & ask about wife or kids

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

illegal

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by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe discrimination based on marital status or status as a parent is state-by-state

So you’d have to check and see whether whatever state gdm is in has an protection for that stuff.

by mojowo11 on May 2, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty hard to prove that sort of stuff though

in theory I imagine you can get away with a LOT of discrimination that’s not strictly “legal”.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've heard employers reverse discriminate in these cases

prefer employees with more “flexible” work-life balances.

by mikey_mac on May 2, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've heard the same thing

My current boss told me that he used to own a business where he would direct his manager to hire young, non-smoking, non-obese, single males. He said they were the cheapest to insure, least likely to miss work due to family/health concerns, and were more willing to work overtime or non-desirable shifts when needed.

Sounds like you need to accentuate your lack of commitments.

by Handsome B Wonderful on May 2, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

today i brought up overtime & asked if i could do it & if i could work part time at another store

i told them i’ll do whatever, whenever no matter, i need a job. but it didn’t really seem to matter, they gave the married guy all the attention & heaped praise on him & talked about his wife & kids. they kept saying how family oriented the company is & they love kids blah blah blah

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was this a game show of some sort?

Were you two being interviewed at the same time?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's starting to sound pretty awesome.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh it was a trip, they had 10 people in the converence room

and they had us do these stupid group exercises for 2 hours. they had one girl who was about 23 running the show & two guys in the back of the room taking notes & watching how everyone did.

the girl is from pittsburgh & didn’t like my joke about the pirates. she said something about the hockey team & then said at least she had the pirates to watch now. and i go, “yep, you & your 10 friends have the nicest ball park in MLB all to yourselves” nobody go the joke. i’m surrounded by morans

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sucks

You’d think it would be easy to find a company out there that only cares about the bottom line, in which case gdm is cheaper than married guy X.

by Handsome B Wonderful on May 2, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad news, dude

You’re younger and therefore SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper.

So if they’re not hiring you it’s a skill or personality issue.

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not young!

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

skill or personality? what are those?

but seriously, i can see the lack of skill being a problem but personality wise i really lay on the charm & am always up beat & easy to talk to during interviews. i know it’s probably hard to believe but i’m a pretty good people person.

and i’m 33, middle age is closer & closer every day

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are tons of variables

Have you asked for feedback? I’m usually honest about that, especially if you get me outside the office.

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah which is why i know the reasons why i haven't been hired

everyone says they like me & i’m a nice person, but i reek of irresponsibility & they don’t view my taking care of my dad as real work

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

"like" and "nice person"

aren’t the feedback you’re looking for. Skills, job history, etc. – that’s the feedback you need.

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i get i don't have the experience they are looking for a lot too

my job history is killing me. the only job still open on my resume is the dealership that fired me at the end of february & they’ve already given me a few bad references. i’m now telling companies not to contact them & when i explain why they don’t act like it’s a good thing. which it’s not, i know, i’m screwed

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad references

will KILL you. Period.

There’s your reason. It’s not someone else’s kids. Figure out a better way to talk to that. You had a difference of opinion, they wanted you to do something unethical.

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i try to explain the whole lying to a customer thing

but one guy told me last week i sound like a bitter former employee, and i’m so not that. i had to bring it up again today & they at least liked i stood my ground & didn’t lie

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm operating under the assumption

that you’re bringing this up here because you want honest opinions. my honest opinion is that you do sound like a bitter former employee from everything you’ve said about it her. if that’s not how you feel, you should identify why you’re giving that impression and change it. if that is (understandably) how you feel, fake it

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

at first i was pissed, now i realize it was for the best

and i tell that to everyone. i obviously didn’t belong there & it’s a good thing i don’t work there

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you turn it into something like

your employer encouraged you to exaggerate but when the customer pushed back the employer didn’t stick up for you?

I’m grasping at straws, since this is the internet and I don’t know you or your situation of course.

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You really should find out what they are saying about you.

Whatever it is, it’s probably illegal to say.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

all you can really ask is “would you re-hire this person” and all they can really say is “yes” or “no.”

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i had my old boss call in & so he said they won't tell him why

and they won’t take my calls so i don’t know what they are saying.

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

well,

as long as i’ve “known” you, it seems like you’ve held a job for a few weeks at most. you could do a lot to change the perception of irresponsibility by starting something (any w2 issuing job, community college, whatever) and sticking with it.

if there is a job in your work history that you held for a year or longer, you should emphasize it. if not, then no offense, but you should understand what kind of impressions an employer would get by seeing a 30+ guy that’s never held a job for at least a year. recognize it, don’t get offended by it and do what you can to change it

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know, i know, it's been years since i had a "real" job

and getting wacked what 5-6 weeks after i was hired looks terrible. i don’t know what else i can do or say to potential employers.

Balls

by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

so

could you not fall back asleep in your nightmare as a side effect of the car crash or just you couldn’t fall back asleep after having the car crash nightmare?

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by nomar34 on May 2, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps relevant to today's topic
After a slow start to the season, [Matt] Carpenter is 13-for-36 (.361) over his past 10 games, with two home runs, six walks and five strikeouts. On the year, he’s batting .270 with a .402 on-base percentage.

From here.

by mojowo11 on May 2, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd love to see him get a shot...its a shame the 40-man

Is in such bad shape….can anyone explain how the waiver process works for a player not on the 25 man roster but on the 40 man?

If we removed Walters or King and a team wants to claim them, does that team have to add them to their 25-man roster? And if so, is it like the rule 5 where they need to stay on the roster for a certain amount of time? Or can a team simply claim the player and stash them in the minors?

Anyone care to rank their top choices for who should be removed if we were to call Carpenter up?

by mick311 on May 2, 2011 2:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

franklin

Yes, I am certain of this.

by Heisenberg on May 2, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why hasn't Reifer been moved to the 60-day DL?

If he has, then the 40-man is outdated and we currently have 39 players on it.

by Ghostrider520 on May 2, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

they aren't going to.

they don’t want to start his ML service time if he goes on the DL

by mick311 on May 2, 2011 2:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

from Goold's Facebook
To add Reifer to the 60-day disabled list means adding him to the major-league roster, paying him a major-league salary, and so on and so on. The Cardinals are likely to find an alternate way to clear a spot on the 40-man roster (a DFA for example) if needed …

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by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way this is written,

it appears to suggest that the Cardinals are likely to DFA a player on the 40-man roster.

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by bgh on May 2, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd agree with that
if needed..

Can I pick?

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by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing that I love is his K:BB this year

for triple-A, it’s REALLY good (nearly 1:1). That to me (plus his very solid AA numbers last year) seem to suggest he could hold his own in the Majors.

Any word on how his defence is these days? I know there were some issues with it previously, I’ve never actually seen the guy field a groundball yet.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

he got some accolades on good plays in spring training.

consensus seems to hover around average, to just above.

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11

by tom s. on May 2, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess we're not calling him the Scottish Carp anymore?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on May 2, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strauss Twitter
JoeStrauss: Confirmed: Craig activated; Freese DL; Puma player of week for second time. Player of month announced later this week. Puma, Tulo’ exacta.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I got a 10 hour road trip tomorrow

I need some good podcasts to entertain me. Any recommendations?

by FlimtotheFlam on May 2, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike and Tom Eat Snacks

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

download douglas adams audio books

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27

by d-dee on May 2, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, paul oakenfold anything is pretty good

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27

by d-dee on May 2, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

My list

The Bugle
Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History
FanGraphs Baseball
Freakonomics Radio
The Moth
The Sports Poscast with Joe Posnanski
Planet Money/Technology Podcast/Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me (all NPR)
Stuff You Should Know
This American Life
This Week in Tech
RadioLab

by mojowo11 on May 2, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fan of NPR

The NPR App on Android is pretty solid

by FlimtotheFlam on May 2, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comedy Death Ray

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman

by pattimagee on May 2, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Up and In baseball podcast by Kevin Goldstein

is my current favorite. The one about the American playing in the Japanese league was good.

Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?

by jacksonian on May 2, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm pretty much going to make an effort to never buy a gillette product

that’s what invasive advertising gets you with me, big boys

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

not trying to be contrarian

but what is the big deal? someone’s gotta pay the electricity bills at SBN

by mikey_mac on May 2, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

stop being so contrarian

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 2, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's getting hit on the head lessons in here!

I hope that’s what you linked to because I didn’t bother checking, I just guessed.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's what I would have linked to

I mean, it fits perfectly!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happens when you click it?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

it opens a new tab

and osama bin laden is resurrected

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nothing happens here. Make your browser do whatever mine is doing.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got it blocked to the point

that it won’t redirect to gilette’s ad, but the link is still active to the point that it opens a new, blank tab.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why are you guys clicking over there, anyway?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

because it's a big open space

and i’ve been in the habit of clicking over there before hitting ‘z’ so that i know the window is in focus

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

this site is like a tree

95% freely clickable white space. you just keep aiming for the trunk.

by mikey_mac on May 2, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I'm lazy.

Moving the cursor that extra 3 inches is difficult.

by TBender on May 2, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

AdBlock is your friend

when I use my old box to view SBN sites sometimes I get those awful background ads.

(Also, I use a host file hack to blacklist a lot of advertising anyway, so I never even see it.)

Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.

by nota bene on May 2, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions

by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

IT IS RUINING THE BLOG

Look at that subthread on car puns. That wouldn’t have happened if there was advertising on the sides of the page.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

King of Shaves...

or better yet, a beard!

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 2, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

those are only for hip, jazzy, super cool, neat, keen, and groovy cats.

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11

by tom s. on May 2, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

what did i miss?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27

by d-dee on May 2, 2011 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

We killed Bin Laden

I’m just assuming you were under a rock.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spider hole, dude.

Whatever the hell that is.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't seem to be hundreds of al Qaeda Jihadist

screaming at the top of their lungs that he is still alive.

Bin Laden showing up alive now that we say he is dead would be a Huge victory for them.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, but how did you know d-dee was under a rock

creepy.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 2, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

where else would she be?

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

no i heard last night

i was asking about what i missed baseball wise

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27

by d-dee on May 2, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's just put it this way

go ahead an increment your sig

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even I will agree to this

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on May 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

because of the dropped routine infield fly yesterday?

i already took care of that, i watch every game, game thread or not

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27

by d-dee on May 2, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

in fairness to Theroit

it did hit him in the glove.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert at third base!

No, on defense!

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on May 2, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAY OT: someone tell me what this means

The regression equation is
Poverty Level = 51.6 – 7.57 Gender Score

Predictor Coef SE Coef T P
Constant 51.60 17.23 2.99 0.006
Gender Score -7.573 4.406 -1.72 0.099

S = 15.4297 R-Sq = 11.4% R-Sq(adj) = 7.5%

Analysis of Variance

Source DF SS MS F P
Regression 1 703.2 703.2 2.95 0.099
Residual Error 23 5475.7 238.1
Total 24 6179.0

Unusual Observations

     Gender Poverty
Obs Score Level Fit SE Fit Residual St Resid
 16 3.66 68.00 23.89 3.19 44.11 2.92R

R denotes an observation with a large standardized residual.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 2, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

What's the question?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on May 2, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is worse than my WAR question last week.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gender score is not significant to the 5% level, but it is to the 10% level

R-square indicates that 11.4% of the change in poverty level can be explained by change in gender score

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on May 2, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's as much as I'm willing to analyze without looking anything else up

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on May 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks.

i could have figured that out for myself, but figured this was quicker.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have to take the adjusted r-sq

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27

by d-dee on May 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, that's for multiple regression

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on May 2, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, he only has one variable

never mind
it’s a bad model regardless

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27

by d-dee on May 2, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's basically what i've been told.

there’s an outlying point though, so i’m basically going to use that to bullshit my way through this.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 2, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure the F-statistic determines overall goodness of fit, as well

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on May 2, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

in multiple regression yes, its signifficance (the p-value of F) tells you

whether or not you can reject the null hypothesis (that all coefficients are zero)
in linear regression, F is just the square of the t-statistic which tests your null hypothesis
the p-value of the t-stat is important here and it tells you that your variable is statistically significant (because < .010) but the model really doesn’t perform all that great (less than 15% variation can be explained with your variable)
therefore poverty level is not solely dependent on gender score
you’ll need multiple regression to draw conclusions closer to the truth

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27

by d-dee on May 2, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw fang, i just now see how many observations you had

rule of thumb, you need a min of 30 observations for linear regression + min 10 for every independent variable you add into a multiple regression
so your solution to the problem actually really boils down to “SSS”

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27

by d-dee on May 2, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the critical values for the t-test would have different criteria

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on May 2, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do you mean?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27

by d-dee on May 2, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, that's it

It’s been one semester too many out of my econometrics class

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on May 2, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You learn a thing or two in college, yes

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on May 2, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

42

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The difference between gender scores explains 7.5% of the difference between poverty levels

The regression equation has a rather high p value, above .05 making it probably not significant.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just in from attending the series in Atlants. Excitng games, ruined by the fact that I knew what was coming yesterday in the bottom of the ninth.

i congratulated the Braves fans around me on their win as the bottom of the ninth started..to the couple that said anything I just replied, “Ryan Franklin. Bottom of the Ninth” The Cards fans around me knew EXACTLY what I meant.

I’m just shocked it wasn’t a 475 foot homerun.

Still, got to enjoy two of three wins, lucky as we may have been.

by RollBirdsRoll on May 2, 2011 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I remember a comment in here

someone was watching an older guy keep score, they announced Ankiel and the guy wrote the K in

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 2, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

just looked at some league statistics...

I knew the offense had been good but the Cards are

  1. in BA at .295 (by almost .20 points!)
  2. in RBIs with 142
  3. in Runs at 149

These stats are for all of baseball! Not just the NL…

Oh, and matt holliday and lance berkman are #1 and #2 in batting average and #2 and #3 in ops….

by mick311 on May 2, 2011 4:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

sorry that should read
  1. in BA
  2. in RBIs
  3. in Runs

by mick311 on May 2, 2011 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

what the hell? sbn!

Don’t know why it does that!

Number one in average, two in RBIs and number one in runs…

by mick311 on May 2, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

1st in BA
2nd in RsBI
1st in Runs

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

1st in BABIP at .333.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 2, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shhhh....

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh Oscar Taveras is out of the lineup today.

was taken out early yesterday. Whats wrong with him????

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 2, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

6 to 8 weeks via Rains

welp

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 2, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

and via scoot and hazel yesterday

don’t need no team medical reports

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

did rains cite VEB as a source?

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11

by tom s. on May 2, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

/rainspic

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions

by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the fastlane

they said Mo believes closer to 9 -12 weeks. Surgery will require a metal plate that will have to be removed after the bone heals.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup, per BJ

Theriot 6, Rasmus 8, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Molina 2, Descalso 5, Greene 4, Lohse 1.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on May 2, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Pujols needs to turn back into Pujols

Rasmus needs to get hot again.

And we are golden.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh RT @BJRains: Cards GM John Mozeliak says Freese will be out 9-12 weeks. Not expected back until late July.

http://twitter.com/#!/AaronBaronHill/status/65164311521267712

60 day DL?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

My fantasy team is gonna take a big hit.

/NCAYFT

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

they won't put him on the 60 day.

the (however slim) chance he’s back before the end of june is too great to ignore. it would really suck to have him be ready around june 20th but have to have him wait another 10 days because he’s on the 60 day.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 2, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

no matter what we do with Freese, the 40 man roster needs some work.

Too many players that either can’t help now (Cleto, Cox, King, Kopp) or have proven themselves unhelpful (Franklin, Batista, Walters?. I wonder how much longer Mo and co. will wait to make changes.

Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?

by jacksonian on May 2, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring up Carpenter

It is one thing to play mix n match for a couple of weeks, but this could be half the season. They can’t give away at bats for that long.

by OCCardsFan on May 2, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there any reason to keep PJ Walters at this point?

I mean, I like the fact that he shut down the Cubs, but I can’t think of anything else.

by sdrone on May 2, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

He does seem the obvious one...

Though personally I would DFA Skip. I don’t think you can do that to people hurt though.

by DiscoJer on May 2, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not Kopp/Blake/Samuel...

these guys stink. Am I missing something?

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 2, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

our roster management is bad.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little Red Riding Peej? he's there to be thrown to the wolves.

…along with an eighth of the roster.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 2, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean, our forty man roster is a complete mess

there’s so many useless parts there that I don’t understand why we let them hold back our major league success. Guys like Lance Lynn and Matt Carpenter should be at the ready.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 2, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes I've been saying this for a while now,

Back when it looked like we would need a starter due to the double header. That’s even more of a problem in my opinion, starting pitcher. Walters is crap, and Kopp isn’t close to starting in the bigs, yet Lynn, Dickson and Ottavino aren’t on the 40 man…..

Here are my rankings for removal:
1.Walters
2.King
3.Hamilton
4.Franklin
5.Samuel
6.Kopp
7.Kozma
8.Augestein

I was asking earlier….if we remove someone and a team claims them, do they have to add the player to their 25-man roster? Or can they claim them and just put them on the 40 man but stash them in the minors?

by mick311 on May 2, 2011 6:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hamilton?

He is currently playing with the big team.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure, but he has no future

unless you think he is pujol’s replacement

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on May 2, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

bat of the bench has value

He isn’t the pujols replacement we want. But we don’t know what the market will be next year if Pujols goes elsewhere.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on May 2, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

a bat off the bench that is never used is mostly worthless

when considering he could be replace by a much more useful player.

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on May 2, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ASOOGY

Alfonso Soriano One Out Guy (Y).

by mojowo11 on May 2, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both had a good year playing in the hitter-friendly Springfield park and league.

Carpenter has no AAA numbers to go by yet.

Descalso AA: .323/.396/.531
Carpenter AA: .316/.412/.487

After a rough step up to AAA, Descalso posted a .281/.349/.420 line last season with Memphis. Carpenter is starting his second month in AAA after hitting .270/.400/.390. Carp’s been much better during his month in AAA than Descalso was for his several months, but ZiPS didn’t have that month during the preseason.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 2, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

the power is bad, yeah

but the plate discipline is so good, so so good. i’d take a hit in the power department (not that Freese had much, anyway) for that kind of plate discipline.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on May 2, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

and I don’t know if this is even a factor in the ZiPS projection, but Carpenter is an older prospect. I love his plate discipline and I love that it has taken no hit in the step from AA to AAA.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 2, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is a factor, though a relatively minor one. When re-doing minor league translations (I got my hands on a ton of historical data a few years ago), I found that the older prospect translation issue had a great deal of selection bias in it – older performers with high strikeout rates (and thus high BABIP) tended to be overrated in older translation systems because of the high BABIPs.

--
Dan Szymborski
Dan's Stuff is on: BTF, ESPN, Twitter

by D.Szymborski on May 3, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who's been tampering with the Szymborski symbol?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 3, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man I forgot how good Descalso was in AA

He’s basically exhibit A in the whole “Observe Our Prospects’ Springfield Numbers With Caution” meme, isn’t he?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why isn't it just spelled meem?

(Yes this is still bothering me.)

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You realize this is the English language, right?

It’s not supposed to make sense or be logical.

by bailorg on May 2, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have Carpenter’s stint this year translated as 250/365/325. I don’t have my in-season projector on this laptop (WTF?) but it’s not really enough to bump his 257/343/364 projection a ton.

--
Dan Szymborski
Dan's Stuff is on: BTF, ESPN, Twitter

by D.Szymborski on May 3, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fangrahps power rankings

What a joke. Their formula is 18% WAR and the rest is fan’s preseason standings.

Link

by FlimtotheFlam on May 2, 2011 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the point is this:
This system essentially acts as a built-in regression for current performance so that we don’t overreact to small samples of data, but it also allows for how teams have done to influence our evaluations of their abilities.

and this:

As the season progresses — and we learn more about each team’s true level of talent — the WAR% will receive a greater weight with the FAN% receiving less weight.

Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.

by all4tookie on May 2, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems fair

I assume they are using some kind of regression to determine the percentages, and it isn’t just arbitary.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

% of games played

Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.

by all4tookie on May 2, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

right, I understand that

I’m wondering if the weights they are giving at various games played are based on something.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we're number 1 over at Beyond the Boxscore!

WE’RE NUMBER ONE, WE’RE NUMBER ONE, WE’RE NUMBER ONE
Ahem, sorry about that.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 2, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope it's a late start....

I won’t be home until an hour or so after start time.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

start time of 9:15 would be perfect

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on May 2, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never have to take a law school exam again.

And after writing 3500 words in three hours, I don’t want to. Instead, I am going to drink beer, eat Thai food, and watch baseball. This will continue until there is no more of each of those things available for consumption.

by Pegasus on May 2, 2011 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Congrats.

I’m surprised that you made it to a computer sober. You should be somewhere drinking right now.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just make sure you get gainful employment...

you could end up going back to school for an LLM.

by bailorg on May 2, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

God I love Goodwill

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

No boat shoes

But I did find a brand new $350 suit jacket from Banana Republic for $8

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently they still sell this

<a href="http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?pid=619683&locale=en_US&kwid=1&sem=false&sdReferer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bananarepublic.com%2Fproducts%2Fmens-suits.jsp" target="new">Link

Now, to find matching slacks. And to suppress the waist slightly

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

The cake is a lie.

by a fink on May 2, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Portal reference?

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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you not know what Portal is and yet you have a Portal-based sig?

[confused]

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't have to procrastinate anymore.
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11

by hr on May 2, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

well, now you know! And also, you should play Portal, it’s a great game.

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't have to procrastinate anymore.
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11

by hr on May 2, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

About
The Cake is a Lie is a catchphrase popularized by the game Portal, and is often used to convey the message that a promised gift is being used to motivate without any intent of delivering.
(See also: The Cake is a Spy, Weighted Companion Cube, Still Alive, Get The Cake)

Origin
In Portal you are required to do numerous tasks in a research facility guided by a computer named GlaDOS, who repeatedly mentions that following the experiment, there will be cake.
As the game progresses, the player finds messages written on the walls as warnings from past test subjects. One message scrawled on the walls in later levels reads "the cake is a lie. the cake is a lie. the cake is a lie. the cake is a lie":

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahem

In all likelihood, I don't get it.

by a fink on May 2, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

Easily my favorite store because you have no clue what is going to be there. This thrift shop by my work though. They always ask for ridiculous prices for things. They wanted $75 for a pair of work boots

by FlimtotheFlam on May 2, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I missing the gamethread?

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on May 2, 2011 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh. Every time I put up a thread

an official one goes up right after.

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on May 2, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

There should be a rule about this...

first pitch? Five minutes before game time?

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on May 2, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd suggest by first pitch

giving ’em benefit of the doubt

by clank on May 2, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.

by nota bene on May 2, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I sympathize

that happened to me last week.

Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.

by nota bene on May 2, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh, I remember that.

I think I had one with 4 comments before it was shut down.

BTW, thanks for the heads-up on the Audio Technica headphones. They’re great.

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on May 2, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice!

enjoy ’em.

I need to go back and listen to the bonus Bitches Brew shit, I’ve only listened to it a few times.

Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.

by nota bene on May 2, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

tonedeaf children and teachers

and now i have a damn headache

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27

by d-dee on May 2, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Marlins feed was talking about how they'd sent players

over to meet the troops the past two off-seasons. I don’t think the Cards do anything like that.

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on May 2, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec

for reference to those crazy batting gloves henderson had in the 90s… I always wanted a pair of those

"I do not want my mom to be Fredbird"
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