VEB's Guide to the Lou
by azruavatar on May 16, 2011 10:24 AM EDT
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So the first thing to sort out is what type of advice gets included in a guide to St. Louis. This is something of a meta-question as I don't want to hear things like "I love Joe Buck's restaurant"* but rather "We should have a section on bars" or "We should have a section on Parking".
The obvious candidates are:
- Restaurants
- Parking/Travel
- Tourist Attractions
- Bars
So in the comments below, give me some additional ideas for categories. Tomorrow we'll start fleshing out some of the categories. My goal is to have people comment about them in the thread and then I'll compile, format and edit as necessary to create an easy to use and aesthetically appealing guide to the Lou.
*Fritz just cringed.
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Accomodations?
Because we all don’t live there.
This section may not be as useful as the others due to personal preferences, cost limitations, reward program memberships, etc., but it might help to give an idea of what’s around downtown, the airport and such — especially if there are some cool places beyond the chains.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Hotels is where input from non locals would be most handy.
Also, it was more of a sigh than a cringe, AZ.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I usually stay in a hotel.....too olod for the hostel scene.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
I have stayed in quite a few hotel's downtown
Renaissance Grand is imo the nicest hotel in STL
by FlimtotheFlam on May 16, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
that one I stayed in was awesome
thanks again to y’all
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think an "easy to get to from the metrolink" guide should be included.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Enthusiasm
I haven’t got anything to add to this, owing to the fact that I am one of the most boring people on the planet. I rarely do anything fun – which is fine with me, of-course. But I would like to say that I am hugely enthusiatic about seeing this final product.
Visiting friends are constantly asking me “what is there to do in st. louis” – ostensibly having lived far enough away from me for long enough to have forgotten my aforementioned boringness – they assume that having lived here for 5+ years I’ll be able to offer some insight. If this gets finished I’ll finally have something other than google with which to try and produce an answer. So I strongly encourage all who would participate in this fine effort!
-- Aidan Sonoda
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What unpaid internships might be available in the area?
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by mysterui on May 16, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You can help me push this giant ball of oil out the window.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on May 16, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
GOLD JERRY, GOLD!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
My living room floor could use vacuuming
we can call that an internship and you can chill on the futon :D
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Deal!
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The question is
Do you make this a general STL guide or a baseball specific one. Since this is a Cardinal site I think it would be best to make it directed around going to the baseball game.
It will be baseball oriented but not baseball specific
when people come to town for a baseball game, they also may visit the Arch or the City Museum, etc. There’s going to have to be a section on things to know about Busch Stadium too but I’m not sure how to work that in yet. . .
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any particular age group?
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 17, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, I'm not sure I'd call VEB child friendly
but I don’t see any reason why the guide shouldn’t help parents out with things their kids can do.
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and seniors?
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 17, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I hear there are tremendous death panels in St. Louis.
I kid. I’ll see if I can include some information for both the young and the old. Formatting all this information will be key . . .
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I was kidding too, really.
seniors aren’t likely to be reading here. Just me.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on May 17, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
We take my parents to all the normal places we go when they're in town.
I don’t think there is a very major culture gap when it comes to dining/attractions/etc between 20/30-somethings and 50/60-somethings.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
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"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
they may have a different taste in music or entertainment
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on May 18, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
right
so a few suggestions for different ages could be helpful.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on May 18, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think she means that there's just as much variation within an age group as there are between them
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of course,
I understand that. I’m talking about the differences between age groups, not among age groups.
Going to the game and dinner afterward could be a pretty easy thing for 60 year old mom and dad and their year 30 year old son and his wife and friends. But it’s not likely that mom and dad want to go for the same entertainment as their son’s crowd. I guess maybe they would but what kinds of stuff would they go for as an alternative?
I wouldn’t have a clue because I moved away from the downtown area about 10 years ago and rarely get into St Louis or the counties anymore. I don’t know what’s there anymore. But I do know I can go hear blues pretty easily if I want to.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on May 19, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Lots of people in lots of age groups like lots of things.
Seems silly to split this by age, color, gender, etc. Taste is taste.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
never mind
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on May 20, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
glad I could help.
azruavatar is asking for suggestions. He can take what he wants and leave the rest and decide what’s silly or what’s useful or how broad or narrow he wants his guide to be.
I don’t see any reason why the guide shouldn’t help parents out with things their kids can do.
azruavatar
So why is it silly to suggest things to do for the other end of that?
I didn’t suggest slicing it up by
color and gender, etc.Just something for all ages, that’s all. I don’t see that as silly, really.
If the guide is intended to be for the 20-25 crowd
then the focus could be narrower.
If it’s intended to be all inclusive then the focus can be broader. It’s up to azruavatar.
The only bad suggestion is the one that’s not made.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on May 20, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Safe areas of the city...
might ease some worries for travelers. I know when people hear about cities being unsafe, they typically let their mind think the whole city is that way when it’s not really the case. Might list it as areas to avoid if this is a concern?
Sections of seating that are shaded or provide a breeze, so if you want to not get completely burnt at the game, or be somewhat comfortable (I feel like I’m 60 years old writing this comment).
Various Events in the City that people may enjoy/want to avoid – 4th of July, Taste of St. Louis so people can plan around increased crowds or plan for bonus activities.
looking forward to hearing about bars and venues and stuff like that
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2011 6:28 PM EDT reply actions
I think Imo's Pizza deserves it's own category
Signed,
Former STL resident who misses Imo’s Pizza sooooooo much
I feel that Imo's deserves it's own mention to be avoided at all costs.
Signed,
Former STL resident who is glad I’ll never taste that poor excuse for a pizza ever again.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on May 16, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let me guess...
you don’t like White Castle either?
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 17, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, I know
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 17, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
absolutely not....that stuff is horrendous.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Horrendously scrumtrilescent
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it could be soilent green for all I know...
But I love ‘em……and Imo’s too!
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on May 18, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i want a provel wedding cake one day
I want Tung Po!
by ILoveTheSt.LouisCardinals on May 18, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a lot of incredible pizza places here.
None of them are Imo’s.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
What incredible pizza places?
so many pizza joints in StL underwhelm me. It took a long time for me to come around to the mess that is Imo’s pizza. It’s basically the most polarizing food in the world but once you get it, you fall in love.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
Pi, Good Pie, Black Thorn, Onesto, Joanies, Katies, heck Pizza A-Go-Go off the top of my head.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Racanelli's is good for big-ass Brooklyn style slices
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by purple_haze on May 20, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Hot spots for good music
If I’m looking for a good bar, then the music has to lead me there. St Louis has some really good local talent…and a lot of it Blues.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 17, 2011 12:35 AM EDT reply actions
anyhing that doesn't twang.
Lots of folks think St Louis is full of hillbillies. A display of something else might give a different impression.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 17, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I came to StL nearly 8 years ago now when I was backpacking my way down the Mississippi on a "blues cruise"
along with an old college buddy, we basically visited all the interesting historical sites in the history of blues music, and all the major towns down the Miss, starting up in Minneapolis and finishing in New Orleans, with a few detours to Chicago and Nashville en route.
Caught some decent local music in Soulard, but I think the best venue I went to is right next to Busch Stadium and seems to still exist http://www.bbsjazzbluessoups.com/
Place was absolutely deserted on a wet Tuesday night (I think there was literally about 10 people there in total) but good food, good beer, good music. Worth a visit, especially if you’re in the area to catch a ball game, as it’s literally about 2 mins walk from the stadium.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 17, 2011 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like a great excursion.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 17, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
It always amazes me that no-one seems to big-up the City Museum as a big tourist attraction in the Lou
I thought it was literally one of the most impressive and interesting attractions I’d seen anywhere in the world, and I am (I think) pretty well travelled. If you’ve got young kids especially it really is a must-see place, but I think there’s plenty there for adults too. Looking at the website, it seems it’s maybe a bit less weird and bohemian than it was when we went there (I don’t remember there being an aquarium, for instance) but still, pretty amazed that St Louis has one of the premier attractions (to my mind) in the mid-west but doesn’t make much of a song and dance about it.
In summary – The City Museum; As Whimsical As All Fuck.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 17, 2011 4:16 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I did suggest the city Museum in another thread
it’s a must!
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 17, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I never mention it because I got tired of mentioning it about three years ago.
But it literally is the most unique and probably most entertaining attraction in the city.
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would've.
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Dude
Y2S is SBN
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by TBender on May 18, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
yeah I don't get it
or whatever
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 19, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Take your pic
Comedy Clubs
http://www.slfp.com/SLFP-Comedy.ht
St. Louis Nightlife
http://www.slfp.com/SLFP-Nightlife.htm
St. Louis Symphony
http://www.slfp.com/SLFP-Symphony.htm
Attractions
http://www.stlouisattractions.com/
St. Louis Hotels
http://www.hotels-stl.com/
St. Louis Dance Events
http://www.slfp.com/SLFP-Dance.htm
Restaurants & Dining
Downtown
http://www.diningstl.com/Downtown.htm
Laclede’s Landing
http://www.diningstl.com/LLRF.htm
Soulard
http://www.diningstl.com/Soulard.htm
Midtown
http://www.diningstl.com/Midtown.htm
More
http://www.diningstl.com/
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
god, that nightlife list makes baby jesus cry
…mostly because those are relative “hot spots” give or take.
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those of us who are of the vrbo variety....
maybe a section on where are the best (read: nicest, safest) neighborhoods to live downtown?
i grew up in STL, but i have a feeling things have changed quite a bit. considering chesterfield like quintupled its size in 10 years
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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