St. Louis Cardinals 5 vs. Atlanta Braves 6: Ryan Franklin again
by DanUpBaby on May 1, 2011 5:53 PM EDT
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Ryan Franklin shouldn't have pitched in the eighth inning and he definitely shouldn't have pitched in the ninth. Assuming he's your last man out of the pen, ready to stretch out should the game go deep into extras, there's no point in using him for one inning, and there's definitely no point in using him for a second inning while your high-leverage guys sit in the bullpen, swearing at Ryan Theriot.
That said—as we've discussed in the gamethread, I don't think this game can be added as another charge in the case against Franklin. He got two groundouts, a flyout, and a pop-up just beyond the infield before allowing a broken-bat single to end the game, and that just doesn't look like the terrible Franklin we've seen so far; if it is Terrible Franklin it's a new model, slightly more usable, less likely to inadvertently dip his beard in beverages and ice cream.
This shouldn't be construed as a defense of Franklin in high-leverage situations or a suggestion that he isn't, in fact, terrible; I just don't think this game can be used as additional evidence of his diminished abilities.
As for David Freese, who has a fracture in his left hand—I don't know how much time he'll miss but it's definitely a problem, if also a more manageable one than it was last year. Daniel Descalso and Nick Punto appear to constitute an outstanding defensive platoon at the position, but offensively... well, they'll look a lot like Daniel Descalso and Nick Punto playing every day at a position where league average, last year, was .265/.331/.421. If Tony La Russa is up for a little Earl Weaver-style overmanagement I'd like to see Allen Craig spend some time there, shadowed at all times by a defensive replacement.
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DAMMIT on Freese
I’d like to see some Descalso development, but at 2nd base.
Let’s all say a prayer our manager has the nads to try playing Craig at 3rd.
I think we will see some Craig at 3rd
and we definitely will if Punto’s hamstring is more than a day or two thing
by infallibleopiniongenerator on May 1, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
but craig is still on the dl
and you have a great 3b backup as we saw in today’s lineup roulette
kidding, of course, that won’t and should not happen
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27
Craig was eligible to return today.
They’d probably prefer another game or two in rehab, but necessity is a mother.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought he was on rehab assignment for a while
he can rehab against the marlins, i guess
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27
Someone re-tweeted a tweet
earlier today from one of the Springfield beat writers saying that Craig had completed his rehab assignment and departed for St. Louis. This was before the injury to Freese
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
How many innings did APU play at third,
my phone was dead by the seventh.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
8th and 9th.
Had just one groundball to deal with and handled it fine.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Free Matt Carpenter?
Probably not, I guess, but I’d rather see him on the roster at this point than Hamilton.
well it serves him
ensuring he’ll be in the big leagues sooner, right?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on May 1, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
well to me, the fact that Reifer is still on the roster is worse....
They need to DL him to free up a spot. I know they’d prefer not to start his service time, but I wonder if it has anything to do with them not wanting to have to pay him big league money….I could be way wrong, I’m sure its the league minimum, but I don’t really see why they don’t DL him if they want Carpenter on the roster….
by mick311 on May 1, 2011 6:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The cash isn't the problem.
The problem is service time. Ultimately, Reifer should be the replacement for Batista/Franklin, but if he is put on the payroll this year that will waste an entire year of his (potentially excellent) pitching service in the hopes of a small temporary boost to our ML production. This might not seem like that big a deal, but just look what happened with Jaime Garcia- even though he joined the rotation the season after Freese and Rasmus, he has a comparable amount of service time, meaning we will have our co-ace for a year less than we could have because he was put on the DL for Tommy John after a six inning cup of coffee.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
they seriously need to get Garcia extended and buy out his arby years anyhow
same with Rasmus, about two years ago. With the exception of Waino, we seem pretty bad at doing that. Small-market teams like the Rays have made a killing by getting top young talent extended early in their careers.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
thoughts on today's game:
It sucks when you don’t catch routine popups.
It sucks that Freese is hurt.
I can’t believe Tony put Albert at 3rd given the extensive proof that 3rd base for the Cardinals is a cursed position. Perhaps Tony thought Albert would erase the curse but I’m not sure even Albert is more powerful than the chaotic-evil goat-god that some vindictive monster clearly made a terrible bargain with.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on May 1, 2011 6:04 PM EDT reply actions
I'm not sure who to point the finger at, but it seems
likely that it happened sometime shortly before Rolen’s 1st shoulder-shredding collision.
Perhaps Polanco was pissed about being traded?
I don’t think anyone can rule out Todd Zeile.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on May 1, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
anybody? my go to math help person is unavailable
i’m stuck as L = exp(-kx + C). and that’s assuming k is a constant
i’ve tried this
1 = exp(-k(0) + C)
1 = exp(C)
C = 0
so, if i solve (1/2) = exp(-k(17)), i get -k = [ln(1/2)/17]
and then solving for (1/5) = exp[(x/17)ln(0.5)] , but the value i get for x makes no sense
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
When the intensity falls below 1/5 of the surface value, the intensity will be 4/5
so you solve: (4/5) = exp[(x/17)ln(0.5)] —> x = 5.47 ft
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't have to procrastinate anymore.
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on May 1, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
oh shit, never mind -- english error
you were right, you solve for (1/5) = exp[(x/17)ln(0.5)] and you should get x = 39.47 ft. That makes sense to me…
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't have to procrastinate anymore.
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on May 1, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that's the one
thanks
ftr, i was just screwing up one of the simple properties of logarithms, but my methodology was otherwise sound
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
i actually just got this, i was screwing up something simple
you still solve for 1/5 and the answer is 39.5 ft
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Miss Lippy's car... is green.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on May 1, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
so is there any estimate on how long he will be out?
This really sucks. I hope they either give Craig a shot at third or give Carpenter a shot…I doubt its Craig though, he had plenty of oppurtunities to play there earlier this season and didn’t. This may mean Greene gets some more PT though and probably saves his spot on the team, even if it isn’t at third, it will open up time at 2nd/SS with Dan and Punto moving over.
by mick311 on May 1, 2011 6:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i don't think they'll be an estimate on how long
until he gets back to St. Louis and the Cardinals have their doctors check him out.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
adieuoumourir
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Leach says
He’ll most likely be put on the 15 DL and may require surgery to fix it.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on May 1, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
A fracture is a break in a bone, and recovery depends a lot on what kind of break and the treatment required:
If the fracture is incomplete, the remedy is usually a short duration immobilization, pain meds, R.I.C.E. and a quick return (less than 15 day DL).
If the fracture is complete, they have to figure out if they can get the bones realigned (reduction). If they can get the bones aligned with a cast and some other immobilization (traction/external fixation) outside your body, it’s called a closed reduction, meaning they don’t open you up and you heal faster but you can’t resume activity until the fracture is completely healed (four-six weeks maybe?).
If the fracture is complete and in more than two pieces (comminuted) or in some shitty position and requires surgery to realign the bones, it’s called an open reduction and often it requires hardware like bolts and screws (internal fixation) to hold the bones in place. Can take months to heal properly and risks many more complications.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
by hazel on May 1, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've had this exact injury (well, right hand, but whatevs) twice.
It healed in about four weeks both times, but I wasn’t back to full strength for another month or so.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Had to use your other hand, huh?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
First time no, I was in boot camp
So it extended my stay for two months, which stunk.
Second time, yes. I am now an accomplished witch hitter.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on May 1, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
yes, that's right, I hit witches.
So back off.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on May 1, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
someone has to keep them in their place
i mean they fly around on their brooms wearing their silly hats turning people into toads. just WTF do they think they are?
Balls
interesting nickname you've got for it
“the witch”
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on May 1, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I call mine "the broomstick"
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Scott Linebrink must really hate you.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
by hazel on May 1, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
this whole subthread is recalicious.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
How close are Craig and Schu to rehab assignments?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
Craig is already on a rehab assignment with Springfield.
Don’t know when Schu will be ready to go. He’s going to be out for a while yet, I believe.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
This is not bad news.
Maybe for him but not for us.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Schu?
“meh”.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait? So pujols played at third?
That’s just crazy
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2011 6:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I just got home. This was not a pleasant outcome to greet me.
Has anything been said about the severity of Freese’s injury?
Skip was due to be out 3 - 6 weeks,
so he’s still on the shelf for a while.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
At least it wasn't the ankles.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
my 10 year old son and i talked about franklin after the game.
i said “franklin strikes again.”. he, to his credit, said something to the effect of “he wasn’t as terrible as normal and he did better than motte”. which is true. but just because franklin wasn’t a grease fire this time, it’s frustrating to KNOW that when he comes in, it won’t be a scoreless inning. whether it be sheer ineptitude, or bad luck doesn’t really matter. the guy simply doesn’t belong in a major league uniform this season.
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
The first inning Franklin pitched was scoreless...
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
where's the door?
i’ll let myself out. to my shame, i was in and out of a nap, and missed the scoreless inning. of course i did.
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
Going forward,
I think I’d rather have Franklin on the roster than either Batista or Augenstein. This is a close call, and it doesn’t really dispute your statement that he doesn’t belong in the major…
The cake is a lie.
Augenstein is intriguing as a longman/spot-starter
Batista is clearly a bad pitcher though. I think he was a pretty bad signing in any case. We’ve two or three guys in Memphis who are no worse. At least Franklin’s had SOME success in the last 5 years, which is more than can be said of Batista.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty decent, level-headed analysis for a 10 year old!
You must be proud of your boy.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Actually, it's toward the bottom. My last name is close to "fink" and my first name is Aaron.
I chose my VEB name on a whim, and I don’t particularly care for it.
The cake is a lie.
Well, nix all of my John Goodman quotes then.
I chose my name on a whim, as well, and have long mourned how stupid a _ looks in the middle. Oh well. If I’m gonna look stupid on the internet I’m glad it’s with an assorted crew of derivative-working, SABR arguing, Freud pic-posting basements dwellers. Long live VEB.
by Kind_Al on May 1, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Two things:
1)John Goodman quotes are always welcome. I do like the movie quite a bit; it’s just not real high up in the Coen pantheon for me.
2)Big rec for you.
The cake is a lie.
"Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, Dude.
At least its an ethos."
by Kind_Al on May 1, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sadly, those last two sentences are too long to fit
In the top bar above the address bar as the site motto. but if someone needs a sig . . . .
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11
by tom s. on May 1, 2011 8:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why does my brain work this way
I read this and this instantly came into my mind. Before I knew it I was singing
by FlimtotheFlam on May 1, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I have my AP Environmental Science exam tomorrow
I’ve been told it will suck.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
meh. who cares if you don't do well.
doing well on AP exams only gets you out of college earlier. and there’s no point in getting out of college earlier. in fact, do the opposite as long as you can.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not that I want to get out of college earlier
But I think I can use this to get out of one of my science requirements, meaning I could take more interesting classes.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
interesting college classes
don’t exist. actually, if you think any are truly interesting, you can take them anyway. take them in the process of changing majors, so you can stay in college longer.
in fact, re-take a similar environmental couse when you get to college. You’ll already know the material and can get an easy A. Repeat this process as much as you can so you can go to a good grad school and thereby stay in college longer.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
you realize college isn't free, right?
college time sucks
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27
we'll just have to disagree about college time.
and who cares if it isn’t free. Take loans, get a job/internship, get scholarships, eat ramen noodles, get dad to pay for it, whatever. still better to stay in college.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
why is it better to stay in college?
being poor and having no free time sucks
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
who wouldn't want to stay in college.
i could have graduated a semester early and am taking extra classes in order to not do so. anyone says they want to get out of school as quickly as possible either really, really hates school or doesn’t have any friends.
by stlcardinalsfang on May 1, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't want to stay in college
i’ve spent my share of time having no money. i’m ready to have some money. i need to finish college to have money. therefore i want to finish college
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
partial list of things i can't do because i'm in college:
1) travel
2) play baseball
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
idk.
i just don’t let money become an issue.
by stlcardinalsfang on May 1, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm sure that's easy when your life is subsidized by your parents
if by “stay in college” you mean “continue to have your life subsidized by your parents,” then i would agree. that sounds awesome.
if what you mean is that being poor when you’re 19 isn’t really a big deal, then i can agree with that. i was pretty okay with being poor when i was 19 as long as i had enough pot. there comes a time when it starts to suck, though
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on May 1, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well you sure took that conversation in a different direction.
that i don’t care to continue with.
by stlcardinalsfang on May 1, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
fyi.
there isn’t much money available….
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
i considered that
and then i picked a practical major
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
compsci?
Wouldn’t that mean have your working life be spent in a cubicle typing on a computer?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
well at least your writing about baseball or something else your interested in
And not in a cubicle.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
in compsci at 5:00 you get to leave work and go home, possibly to a house
I get to work at home, but I have to live in the cubicle.
trade-offs.
Except you don't actually live in a cubicle...
And you don’t really have to spend any of your time doing things that you don’t enjoy doing. Would you trade your job for, say, being an editor for a business magazine if it meant you could make twice as much money?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
the stuff I enjoy doing (here) pays very little
I’m paid mostly to cover the nfl draft, the super bowl, etc. over at the regional. if I were paid twice what I was making now I’d be looking at an entry-level real-journalism salary.
So your telling me you didn't enjoy writing this?
http://stlouis.sbnation.com/2011/2/3/1971824/super-bowl-commercials-budweiser-miller-coors-beer
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
that one I enjoyed
the super bowl was actually kind of fun in general, even the boring stuff. but the 6000 words I wrote for the draft on friday—not fun. let alone the actual watching of the draft, which is like watching golf only indoors.
You have to pretend to care about a 5th round safety, ranked 26th at his position, eh?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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it becomes less awesome as you work out the hourly wage they're paying me
but yeah, mostly for the regional. it’s flexible, so I can’t complain while I’m at school.
Do any of the other VEB authors get paid?
I know I don’t but, uh.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't get paid for BtB or Driveline either
I assume most of SBNation is made up of volunteers, which is ridiculous given the amount of money they seemingly make.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
such is blogging for new-media companies
old-media companies are much more generous because they’re used to actually paying writers.
which is why i'm surprised you're paid anything
not that it isn’t deserving
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
your check is waiting on that penny pitch f/x
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I get paid by SBN just enough to make my taxes a giant hassle
b/c I’m a 1099 employee. I’d be happier if they just sent me a bottle of vodka a month.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
OH SHIT THATS A HUMBLEBRAG!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Eh, kind of
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I'm a 1099 employee too
in general they do the absolute minimum to pretend they think content is worth money.
Leave at 5pm?
I don’t let any of my freshouts leave that early!
ah, the implication being that i'm pursuing something i'm not interested in
right?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
would you seek to do computer programming in your free time?
Well I actually did like a year ago, but I didn’t do programming for the sake of programming, I only did as much as I needed to for baseball. And I didn’t enjoy it.
I mean do you actually enjoy or get some kind of intellectual satisfaction out of computer programming?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
this of course assumes you would be doing computer program
which might be erroneous.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I know some people who program for fun
the good news is you’re less likely to have to do it for fun than you are when you write for fun.
That second sentence either doesn't make sense
Or I got a lot stupider.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
like, I write for fun
but it’s because I have to write for fun, because so many other people are willing to do it. certainly I’d rather be paid for my literary fiction, but there’s a huge supply of mfa grads and very little demand for their services.
I've discovered you can do a lot with the social connections from doing anything for fun
the Internet has turned really solitary activities into prime networking hubs
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i would and i do
though my current education level makes it difficult. there have been multiple occasions that i’ve looked for an open source project to join. it’s challenging and there’s a certain thrill to creating something that lots of people will use
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
oh, ok then
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see that actually
There were some times when I was really proud of a code I wrote because it was inginuitive or whatever. But I don’t think it would have any hold on me if it didn’t have an endpoint.
Uh, whatever though, that’s just me.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
what kind of programming were you doing for baseball?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
SQL codes
And R towards the end. I hit a wall when I needed to writing looping codes in R.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
ah, of course
i don’t know anything about R, but there are probably more user-friendly languages for what you want to do if you’re having trouble with something like looping
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
i have a nice window office at the top of a skyscraper
and I still spend my life typing on a computer. it’s all the same shit.
the only difference is that i close my door when i turn up the mlb gameday.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the cubicle wasn't the important point
It’s the typing on the computer all day that is.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
potentially
but i’m more worried about the implications it has for my non-working life
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
How much better would your non-working life be with money?
Serious question.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
ask me that in a few years
but i promise you it won’t be worse. at least not because of a well-paying job
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Well of course your non-working life would be better
But is that worth having much more of your life being consumed by your working life?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't understand
how would much more of my life be consumed by my working life than if i pursued some BA that may or may not get me a job immediately out of school?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Well how much time do you spending working in school?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
well, a lot
but i wasn’t considering work done for school to be part of my working life. the idea is that i’m gambling that having the money to buy the things i want and do the things and help the people i care about for the rest of my life will be well worth the overworked, socially deprived 2.5 years i spent getting the degree
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Or has been in a long distance relationship for 3.5 years
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well, that too.
but that’s not exactly common.
by stlcardinalsfang on May 1, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
having no free time in college?
what? Free time is in abundance. (BTW, don’t you go to Southwest Tex? From my time visting there when I was in college, i never got the impression there was a dearth of free time there.)
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not really the same school anymore
and it doesn’t have much to do with the school. it has more to do with how many hours you enroll in and what obligations you have aside from school
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
premise: the real world sucks
easiest debate position ever
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Yeah, as soon as you mentioned ramen I remembered why I like being an adult a lot more.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
take out a federal loan
and stay in school for the rest of your life. you never have to pay it back.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Count me as another person who hates college.
Huge waste of time, money, effort. I generally learn more in a weekend simply reading about a subject on my own or doing something (car repair, gardening, cooking, computer programming) with the assistance of internet forum advice and an idea for a project in my head than I learned over several semesters of university.
If I had it to do over, I’d make almost all of the same decisions (because a degree continues to be ridiculously overvalued in the job market and it’s the only way to get into med school), but I’d graduate much earlier and I’d spend the extra money and time traveling around the US, asia and south america.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
I think college is great for people who have no idea what they want to do with their lives
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree with this immensely.
Colleges, especially large colleges, are completely fine with letting kids come in, write them $40K checks and drop out at around 50%. They are either not trying to keep people engaged, or they completely fucking suck at it.
Also, many admissions processes are a complete clusterfuck and result in Kafka-esque bureaucracies in which people who deal with students are paid entry level wages and assigned 1000 students to run the numbers on. They fall through the cracks because the cracks are big.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
I don't disagree with any of this
But the opportunities in college (both socially an academically) have to be much more abundant than in another stage of your life.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean to say
I would assume that opportunities in college (both socially an academically) are much more abundant than in another stage of your life.
Maybe i should have put a “, right?” at the end of that.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Academically, sure.
Socially, not necessarily. Networking as a professional can yield far greater opportunities.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
that's surprising to me
college is basically an entire town full of people your age, many of them sharing similar viewpoints towards you.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
are you in college right now?
I thought you were in high school.
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I am in high school
I should have put “I assume in front”
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
well, given what you said below...
I hope you find your way to a college where many of the students have different viewpoints – part of what I found valuable in college (my experience sounds a lot like Shi’s) was that my perspectives were challenged and stretched. It sounds like you would enjoy that.
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a lot of group think on college campuses.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Especially with schools in Seattle
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
College has changed me a lot. I think for the better and it isn’t because of people who think like I do but because of people who didn’t and forced me to either change ,y thoughts a little or defend them at the very least to myself and therefore become stronger and more well-rounded.
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"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Once again,
you went from age 18-2something. You will change a lot over those years no matter what and I think a lot of what colleges do does nothing to help you navigate/make the most of/not get ripped off during that time.
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by hazel on May 1, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agree a bunch with this.
I went to college during those ages and I have friends from high school who stayed in town, got married and started a family. they changed just as much, if not more, than I did during those years.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
so what you're telling me is
i will be missing out on a lot going to college in my early 30’s instead of early 20’s? that sucks!
Balls
college girls don't usually randomly hook up with the old dudes in the bar
and, unfortunately, early 30s is ancient on a college campus.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
CC is not college
totally different experience.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
really? Columbus State is a huge college
it’s seems like a normal college to me, but it’s been over 10yrs since i was on a campus
Balls
keep in mind, i'm not knocking you for going to cc
quite the contrary and I didn’t mean to but i realize how it came off.
what i’m saying is, it’s just a completely different atmosphere. you don’t have dorms at a cc and you don’t have a campus…. okay, wait. Columbus State is a community college? where is it?
typically, community colleges (I’m assuming cc means community college) have a bunch of locals who know each other and have two goals, get to a better, 4-year college or get some sort of certification (x-ray tech, cosmotology, culinary, etc).
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
the main campus is in down town Columbus & its huge
counting the satellite sights 30,000 students are enrolled there. i’ll have to go down town for most of my classes because the culinary department is there. i’d rather not because it’s 45min drive, but it’s the best in the area & second best in the state so it should be worth it
i didn’t take it as you were knocking me, i know it’s not the same, but i thought class wise & going to the main campus it would be pretty “normal”. i don’t think there are dorms, but there is a lot of young kids there. i was surprised, i expected more people my age, and there are. but there are a lot of kids.
Balls
personally, i think older, non-traditional students
get more out of college than “normal” students.
I knew a couple of older students when I was in college and they just had a difference about them…a good difference but one I couldn’t really relate to. then I became one of them.
originally, I went straight to college and graduated then went back to school 8 years later for a teaching certificate in my area of study. you just take everything more seriously, although there are plenty of students who go right away and do take things extremely seriously, i just think everything is better put into perspective with a little “life” under your belt.
too many college kids really have no damn idea about who they are or what the world is about, but often think they have it all figured out. life isn’t like a textbook and a lot of kids get chewed up once they graduate because they look for things to be just like when they were in college.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
i'm hoping that's the case for me
at least i have a plan now, had i gone right out of high school i would have not had a plan
Balls
Maybe.
But I like where I am now and I don’t think I would have been the same way if I stayed in St. Louis. Also I can’t exactly be a teacher without a degree.
Look college isn’t for everyone. And it isn’t for everyone right out of high school either. But saying that I’m getting ripped off because I went to school is a little bit strange. I want a job. I know what job I want. I know what I have to do to get it. If I didn’t go to college I don’t really know what I would be doing right now. I am not qualified to start my own company or climb the business world ladder or something like that. I am not getting ripped off, I am doing the best thing for me.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
there was no way i was ready for college right out of HS
i probably wasn’t ready till i was around 22
Balls
In a big city, college is an entire campus of people who happen to go to college.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
I didn't leave home - the St. Louis metro - to go to college.
So my social life was not based on campus life.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
Oh
Well I’m going to a town that’s basically populated by college students (Burlington).
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You're going to Burlington? My cousin lives near there. Sounds freaking gorgeous.
The cake is a lie.
yeah I'm excited
especially because I’m a big skiier.
I’m on the waitlist for Oregon though and will probably go there if I get in, but that’s partly because the other two members of my band are going there, and it would be really fun to be in a good band in college.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Then our experiences should be vastly different in that regard.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
buy hats and scarves
(from someone who went to school in the Berkshires)
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I ain't gon' wear no scarves
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, talk to me in February.
We’ll see if you’re singing that same song.
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I will wear big coats though
That sounds nice.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I recommend cross-country skiing...
…if you’re looking for exercise. It’s fantastic.
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
That sounds absolutely terrible. I hate when I have to go on flat grounds.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't literally ski
across the whole country
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I know what cross country skiing is
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
ah, go to your fucking cubicle
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
trust me
Don’t get one of the cheap rabbit fur ones though. Lambs wool all the way.
/sorry fink.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
my dad has one of those
that feels like you’re nuzzling your head in Aphrodite’s boobs. So I plan on begging for that from him when I go off.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That depends.
The things that are most useful to a person who goes to college are usually not the things that colleges actually do.
They’re things like, moving out, managing money, finding out what you really want to do with your time, your life, etc. you get to start a ton of new relationships with complete strangers, you get to have sex, you learn how to deal with roommates, coworkers, classmates, teachers, and by the transitive property peers, coworkers, bosses, and people in the real world.
More importantly, you can do NOTHING wrong. You WILL BE BAILED OUT in almost any event short of getting a girl pregnant or getting caught committing a heinous crime. It’s a sandbox.
Which of those things requires a sociology program?
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
Exactly, it's not neccesarily the academic part of college (which can be valuable in itself if you take enough classes that are interesting to you)
But the environment.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
eh?
you get to have sex
WHY DID I NOT GET THIS EMAIL???
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Or people who know what they want to do and need a degree to do it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
i sympathize but disagree
my college experience, which i just wrapped up in 09, was fantastic. i got a lot out of my classes, both in my major and not. the main reason for this is that i went to a school where the professors’ main job was to teach as opposed to doing research, so classes were very enjoyable and the professors approachable. my friends and i attended the college for its academic emphasis, so the culture regarding courses was healthy as well. obviously every place isn’t like this, and it depends on a lot on the individual as well, but the college experience gives you what you want to get out of it. i mainly wanted a good education, so i went to the best private liberal arts school i could get into that was willing to give me a scholarship, in spite of the fact that it was also an all-male school. i understand that not everyone would make such a decision, and the school had its obvious downsides, but i wouldn’t trade it for anything. just thought i’d give my 2 cents.
I don't see how that contradicts my view,
that the vast majority of the things you learn are not useful to you and that the structure of the system is not conducive to the dissemination of skills and attitudes that will be useful to most people or to society.
The majority of the departments in a university are looking out for one thing: Themselves. Every school is branching out and adding new departments that they have no business adding, liberal arts at most schools is just a mind-blowing amount of bullshit attached to a teacher education program.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
it does contradict
because i don’t feel that what i learned was not useful; in fact, it was extremely useful. first of all, i admit i am a bit of a special case. i am currently in graduate school and would like to stay in academia. even outside of that, though, my liberal arts courses, and college in general, completely altered my world-view. yes, it’s true i won’t apply what i learned in the sex and masculinity psychology course i took to my work, but i learned a hell of a lot about what sex and masculinity are and how they affect me as a person. similarly, i was able to study abroad and study chinese language and culture. i did not take a single course related to my major during this time, but what i learned about a then-unknown society is invaluable to me.
liberal arts schools are meant to educate you in more ways than just your major and career choice. some may fail at this, but mine did not fail me. this is speculative, but it sounds like you should have attended vocational school if you don’t want to mess around with material not directly related to your preferred career path.
I tend to agree with this
Education for the sake of education is much better to me than education for the sake of getting a job.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but if anything a lot of uni courses don't foster creativity and curiousity- they quash it.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
Dammnit
i would think that a liberal arts college like where Shi went might not do that though.
Unfortunately, i’m going to University of Vermont (or possibly Oregon), neither of which are liberals arts colleges.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY
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by jd is legend on May 1, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
what was your major?
i thought you went to a liberal arts college
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
physics
but i still received a bachelor of the arts. my school had all the traditional majors, but everyone had to take a large dose of non-major courses. ‘liberal arts’ wasn’t a major even.
oh, right
you’re the one who posted that youtube vid recently
we need a fanpost on string theory sometime
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
hmm, well
i was trying to think up some way to relate quantum mechanics to baseball. one idea i had was talking about how unlikely quantum tunneling is for a baseball through a bat, except for mark reynolds. the answer is: very unlikely.
but would a fanpost on something unrelated to baseball, like string theory, really be allowed? perhaps i’ll relate the tiny size of the extra dimensions to aaron miles or something. that would work i guess.
i dunno
i was half joking
you’ll be happy to learn that i’m taking physics 1 and 2 over the summer to satisfy some of my science requirements. i always thought the stuff was interesting
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
nice
though physics only gets really fun when you start quantum. everyone, and i mean everyone, should read this. it requires no background and is written by the best american physicist of all time, richard feynman. qed is, arguably, the best theory humankind has ever had, and it explains almost everything you experience on a day-to-day level; if you see it, and it’s not due to gravity, its qed. any library would have it.
I would love to read some physics of baseball fanposts.
I’m not sure it’s physics, but my brother game me a book called “Rationality for Mortals” that has a lot of interesting stuff about the heuristics that ballplayers use, like the ‘gaze heuristic’ they use to catch fly balls. Pretty cool stuff.
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting
it’s funny how we learn to follow a flying ball even if we don’t know the physics of how it flies.
i’ll try to think something up and put up a fanpost. and if anyone has any specific requests, i’ll do my best to accomodate them.
fanpost request
Can you explain Wainwright’s curveball?
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a good one actually
it’s been done of course, but i’ll try to whip something up next week or so. i got a final this coming wednesday, so it won’t be before then. but yeah, that’ll be fun.
I've always found the slurve curious as well.
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
the effect would be for the same reasons
but just that the rotation is on a slightly different axis. any breaking ball breaks for the same reasons it turns out. this explains it pretty well. in the fanpost, i’ll try to compare it to a soccer ball, which is different since it actually changes shape as it is kicked.
can you explain the sun?
can you explain the small of a woman’s back?
well maybe you can, but all i know is i’d rather sit back & enjoy them both. sometimes you don’t need an explanation, all you need to do is relish in their glory
Balls
i can explain the sun, actually,
and while i understand your point, i strongly disagree. i still sit back and enjoy things just like anyone else would, but i also have a feel for how incredibly unique and unlikely it is that we live on a planet in a solar system with a single sun that is halfway through its 10 billion year old lifespan in a universe that is 13.8 billion years old. to me, its complimentary.
about how
science takes away from beauty. it’s a common thing to hear, really. and it’s total bullshit of course. but i’m biased ;)
It'd be cool if we could all agree
that knowledge actually leads to more wonder, instead of guarding the gaps of what we don’t know. Particularly now that science has moved beyond base determinism.
gaze heuristic ftw.
that would be a great band name.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I thought I wanted to major in econ
As it would allow me to take the sabermetrics and apply it to real life data.
But then I took econ this year and it sucked so much. And I also became much more interested in reading/writing (which I’m also good at I think). so yeah.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe your econ teacher sucked
I had classes in high school that I hated but found out later it was because of the teacher, not the subject
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by jd is legend on May 1, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably
We don’t ever talk about anything, we just learn the freaking terms.
And my English teacher this year is great. So yeah that’s definitley part of it.
But i think writing offers a lot more room for creativity than econ.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I mean, obviously
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study both if you get the chance
what’s great about english is that it allows you to apply the creativity you develop to anything.
Why don't you start off with a double major or minor in one?
Then decide after taking courses which you prefer, or finish the double major/ minor
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by jd is legend on May 1, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Well i don't have to declare my major until my junior year
So I plan on taking lots of English, Econ and Stats classes (well maybe not, because they usually require me to take high level calc or trig – bullshit), and then deciding.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
you're not going to be able to avoid calc/trig either way
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I tested out of them with my AP Calc scores
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well VEP doesn't even know basic trig
he’ll at least have to take something like calc for BAs
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Oh I guess that's true
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He needs to talk to Chief Sohcahtoa
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by jd is legend on May 1, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
heh.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
As an Econ major, I took literally 0 math classes in undergrad
LOL USC
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There is no way
Learning how to simplify a fraction (what I’ve been doing with increasing complexity for the past 4 years) has any relevence to the universe.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
algebra =/= math
geometry is most important, and i would say trig is a subset of that. calculus is a very elegant and necessary way to take limits of things. more complicated algebra is necessary of course, but yeah, high school algebra is of course not a big deal.
I agree with this.
and I hate math.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This I agree with
But I fear if I have to take beginners calc and trig in college, I will be getting more of the same.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
if you can, just skip intro math courses
if you can do math, you don’t need to intro courses, and if you can’t do math, you won’t pass the intro courses anyway, imo.
I fall in the second group
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
eh, i didn't mean to
come across as condescending. but yeah, for the most part, you can do it or you can’t.
Calculus really is extraordinarily elegant.
But college math teaching can often be even worse than high school teaching, so I’d try hard to find a good professor and skip out of the really low-level courses if you can.
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
How can I skip out of the intro classes?
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
the prof can pretty much do
whatever she wants. if you can convince her that you should start out at the normal level, you will.
Do I have to show that I can algebra?
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So who/when do I ask?
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
it depends on the school
but when i met with my advisor the first time we talked about what courses i would take. i flunked the ap calc exam in high school because my teacher was total shit, but i said i knew what i was doing and went ahead and took calc 2 anyway, and my advisor trusted me. its a case by case basis of course, but it’s doable.
Ok thanks, I'll definitley try to do that
How much time does your advisor spend with you?
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by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
depends
mine was a professor i had, so we saw each other more or less daily. i would just be agressive about it yourself; schedule meetings to discuss these things. the more initiative you take, the more impressed the prof will be. and if the prof isn’t really interested in helping you, get a new advisor.
Alright, thanks for the advice
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by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
pj has a math helper
I should’ve done that, in so many classes. I was kind of stupid about using available resources.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's a pride thing
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yep, a good study group /
group tutor really goes a long way.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think that might be the biggest thing that's not impressed on new college students
use the resources because you/family are damn well paying for them. I’d just gone so long with the high school every-man-for-himself thing, it was a hard habit to break. and also free education vs. you’re paying for this.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
heh
i use the term loosely. it’s an internet friend who is a math major
but he’s pretty close to graduating, so any problem that i was having trouble with that wasn’t upper level discrete i could ask him about and he’s be like ah, yeah, this is easy
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
for what it's worth this wasn't my experience
I know a lot of people have a different one, but I felt like I had a lot of freedom to try new things in my work as an undergrad, and a lot of that has shown up in my fiction/my blogging.
nope
I had a similar experience. My undergrad experience changed how I understood the world and expanded my interested; I’m extremely grateful for it.
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
er, interests
apparently it didn’t help me type
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
This was in fiction classes, correct?
A class that requires you to write weekly in various forms is much more likely to cause you to do something you haven’t done before than a class that asks you to expound (yet again) on some baroque piece of academic/classic/avant garde writing that is completely irrelevant to everything except some tiny corner of some liberal arts specialty.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
I didn't get into fiction until relatively late
I turned in some really weird papers in my literature and anthropology courses. lots of messing around with form/fiction/voice. most professors seemed open to it.
I studied lit and found lots of room for exploration.
I did have to actively seek out those classes and teachers, but I did all sorts of strange things with my writing and and the directions I took.
The cake is a lie.
I used to think that.
Get your undergrad as cheaply as possible.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
or allows you to take a joke 12 credit schedule throughout
and have even more fun
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
GOBligatory
I bring you one DanUpBaby:
1. Third Base. David Freese, for all his high-profile defensive lapses, is hitting .358/.391/.481. His .298/.362/.409 line at third base last year, in 64 games, is eminently reachable, and with both his ankles surgically repaired he might even reach 64 games again.
And in other news, the GOB have noted that thou hast doubted the existence of the GOB, and whilst no man ought to worship the GOB, especially whilst contemplating $3 beers, the GOB laugh heartily at your doubt, forsooth that is totally not the GOB placing bags of excrement upon your front step, nor is it the GOB messing with your 401K, nor the GOB inducing your alcoholism to new depths of mugshot-ness, given that thou do not believe in the GOB.
So mark well this exhortation: doubt thou not the GOB but miss no opportune moment to spit on their name, for they are bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling, and the wondrous game of baseball is cruel enough.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 1, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
i don't know what the gob is,
nor what the rest of it is about, but i laughed anyway. lols=rec’s in my book. btw, what is the gob?
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
I always thought it was a band best know for
their cover of Paint it Black.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
I feel like this should have come from a novelty account
named “Prophet of the GOBs” or somesuch.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
that might imply GOB worship, which is very sad.
I really should have put a dash or an exclamation mark after “doubt thou not the GOB”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I was expecting more Theriot bashing
maybe it will come below; I’m starting to really dislike the guy, and I hate not having a full root for everyone on the roster.
He's adequate!
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he really pulled a Pujols today.
The cake is a lie.
by a fink on May 1, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we're 1/6th of the way through the season
and he’s accumulated about half the WAR Brendan Ryan did all of last year. I’ll take it.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Theriot sucks. He definitely bears the most responsibility for the loss today.
I expect his OBP to drop and his defense to remain as bad as we’ve seen.
In other news, I don’t know what you mean when you say that you “hate not having a full root for everyone on the roster” — and frankly, I don’t think I want to know.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Now you're getting it.lol
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate him, but not as much as i hate his stupid f'ing nick name
he should be playing 2nd, he has no business playing SS
Balls
T.H. Eriot is an awesome nick-name.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
There's only a roster issue if Punto is really hurt.
If Punto is fine, just put Freese on the DL and activate Craig. Some combination of Descalso, Punto and Craig can manage 3B with Punto, Descalso, and Greene manning 2B.
It gets a lot more interesting if Punto is really hurt. Then I’d drop PJ from the 40-man and bring up M. Carp.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
The first one is what I expect to happen
Unfortunately, I didn’t get to make it over to an S-Cards game this weekend to scout this “Allen Craig” kid, but I hear he can hit and has had past experience at the hot corner. With our defense doesn’t matter approach at SS and RF this year, I don’t see why TLR would be so against playing Craig at 3rd.
Also, I haven’t read any of the stories on Freese, but I’m going to slap the 6-8 week time frame on for his return. Could be shorter if he doesn’t have to get pinned, but I’m betting they will want to pin it and his history of healing isn’t too good. Poor guy, can’t catch a break.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Craig had some experience this season at 3rd
when he was the 5th man on the infield. Made a great play too.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on May 1, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Get the steak sauce...
…I’m ready.
:=8(
Griebenschmaltz!
by The MooCow on May 1, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As long as Freese's injury does not lead to Pedro Feliz appearing on the roster,
I think the team will be fine.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
you just had to bring that up, didn't you?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Aaron Miles is employed by the Dodgers right now?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
NotAP
Los Angeles Dodgers: Traded IF Aaron Miles to St. Louis Cardinals for OF Colby Rasmus, P Eduardo Sanchez, and the virus plaguing Mgr Tony La Russa’s right eye.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I hate you.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I hate a player when
I read their name the first thing I look at is my gun case.
by FlimtotheFlam on May 1, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't even wanna know what this means.
“Barry could see it crunching a little bit,” La Russa said.
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA
I can’t hear youuuuuu
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
On a slightly lighter note:
“I just checked with him,” La Russa said. “I said, ‘Are you ready to play third?’ He said, ‘Yeah.’ He’s got great hands and an accurate throwing arm. His arm feels great. I wish there had been more plays at him.”
No, Tony. A sane person wouldn’t wish that.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
THE EYE MUST BE GETTING BETTER AAAAHHHH
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That reminds me of when I snapped one of the bones in my hand.
hurt like hell. I popped it back into place and wrapped it up tight. Still have a bump there.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That sounds disgusting.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
At least the Reds and Brewers lost too
ugh. It is way too early in the season to be scoreboard watching. Must…acquire…non-baseball related interests
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
(from before the game)
Craig, on the disabled list due to a strained left groin, has played two games on a Minor League rehabilitation assignment at Double-A Springfield. He’s 0-for-6 with a walk and a sacrifice fly. His numbers don’t concern the Cardinals, and the reports are that he’s healthy. He is eligible to come off the 15-day disabled list on Monday.
Even so, manager Tony La Russa feels that Craig might benefit from spending an extra few days at Springfield. Craig won’t play regularly once he’s activated.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
They need to get him back to the team immediately...
especially now with Freese out….
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
at least his right groin is OK.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry didnt go through game thread
but how is it Mcdowell gets 2 weeks and Lowe? what has even happened with him yet. Sorry but the way we hand out punishment here puzzles me at times.
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
because Mcdowell's situation is controlled as an team/league administrative matter
and Lowe’s is a criminal matter. Lowe is also a union member, which controls if/how he is punished. Apples and oranges.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
in other esoterica, general interest in the Curse of Scotty
he didn’t play third base at Busch this last time
perhaps failing to fend off the effects? hmm.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Possibly nexdef'd
Strauss reporting Freese out at least a month.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
dammit.
of course this would happen.
by stlcardinalsfang on May 1, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
he'll have to hang onto it for a while
but i wouldn’t put it past tony to hold a grudge until the next time we play the braves
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
september 9th-11th at home.
4+ months. i don’t doubt tony, however.
by stlcardinalsfang on May 1, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought TLR was generally anti-beaning?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
that stupid math thing was posted on another forum i visit
exactly the same things. wth
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
i think Matt Carpenter could match David Freese's production right now (and could provide some OBP at the top of the lineup)
this doesn’t have to be an emergency, just don’t freak out about the 40 man and do it.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
Has the 40 man roster...
been this much of a problem in years past? Just looking at it there’s a tremendous quantity of injury/suckitude taking up space. Batista, Franklin, Augenstein, Kopp, Blake, Samuel, Riefer, and Walters are all contributing nothing.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
I submit "Schumaker" to the list "contributing nothing on the 40 man."
I think you’re right, though. There’s a hell of a lot of low-ceiling RHPs. That can’t really be helped with as many Perez types that we’ve lost over the last few years, but we could at least not be adding redundant skill-sets like Batista’s.
I would add Hamilton to the list also.
If they want to add Carpenter, then who gets removed? I don’t think they are going to put Riefer on the DL because they probably would have by now. Maybe King? Kopp? Walters?
I’m also worried if we need to call up a SP…Lynn, Dickson or Ottavino would all be better options than Walters or any other starter on the roster.
by mick311 on May 1, 2011 10:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'd kick King
there’s really no reason for him to be on there
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
He's hitting in the zeroth percentile of AAA hitters.
He’s like a light-hitting pitcher. To borrow a phrase from a certain advice columnist:
CTMFA
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
he cracks me up. funnier live, too, so if you ever get a chance, see him speak.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11
by tom s. on May 1, 2011 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i can't believe samuel is STILL on the 40.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
DanUp and azru
Have jinxed freese and Colby. Danup mentions freese an how he will be able to play more games and he immediately gets injured. Azru points out Colby has cut down on his k’s and he immediately starts a strikeout binge. You two should try talking up votto and Braun in your next posts
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2011 10:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That boy needs to drink more milk!
(cue moo-cow)
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI, Obama is about to make a speech. Totally out of the blue. Probably something big.
Just wanted to inform anyone who didn’t know.
The cake is a lie.
twitter rumors saying we have killed Osama Bin Laden
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Being reported right now by NBC that this is about Osama bin Laden.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
damn, now we know it's not true
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
and delete this entire 4 comment subthread?
Are you crazy?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
making fun of a news channel is far from the most political things VEB has seen this week
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Just as well remove everything from the initial comment then.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I started all this and I'm ending it! Shush! The whole lot of ya!
or not. whatever.
The cake is a lie.
I request that you put a goatee on this person's avatar.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It'll be flat by the time you could drink it.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Dangit.
Reminds me that O’Fallon Brewery closed and therefore no more Wheach beer for Spanties. :(
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
Well, there'll be plenty of champagna still around
for relaxing after a busy day of chasing minispants.
Also, didn’t know O’Fallon Brewery closed. They were doing OK and looking to expand last I checked. Bummer.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
OH AND I DO!
(No I don’t.)
US docs don’t recommend that, and I just haven’t felt it worth the risk.
However, Peanut has had morphine, percocet, and vicodin!
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
so she's automatically qualified to play bass
On courtney love’s next tour!
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11
by tom s. on May 1, 2011 11:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Not regularly.
I hurt myself the other night trying to rearrange in bed. (STUPID BELLY!) I’ve taken two or three pills a day since. Plus, there is an element of the wound care that is particularly painful, physically and mentally. Not ready to do that part without pain meds yet. Almost.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
i had hoped you'd be healed up by now
i’m sorry to hear you’re not. how much longer do you think it will be?
Balls
The OB said that if I have a normal labor and delivery
that the barely healed wound might split open during.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
That sounds fun.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
And yet, I'd rather do that than
have a c-section at this point.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
I bet I can guess which wound takes longer to heal.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11
by tom s. on May 1, 2011 11:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At that stage, the c-section.
But this wound as it is now is taking much longer because I’m still pregnant.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
my sister had two in 11 months
the c section is really really hard to heal from. i hope you don’t have that problem
Balls
I know a lot of women who have had
c-sections. All but one found the experience perfectly fine.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
it took her a month to recover from both
she said that was longer than normal & she was in a lot of pain most of the time. the first one was an emergency & the second one was planned. she was really swore especially after the second one. of course most women don’t have a baby 11 months after they have another one
Balls
obligatory Do Not Picture It.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
O'Fallon of the six minute IPA?
That was a good beer.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
hey,
at least he didn’t say fixed news.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
This honestly has no effect on me
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
well, in your defense
you were like seven on 9/11
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i actually remember the day it happened
I was pissed that I didn’t get to miss school.
But also, it’s not like Osama was the only terrorist out there.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
unless this is a revenge thing, than it's totally cool
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I just realized I honestly can't explain the impact of 9/11 to someone who was a kid that day.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I'm sure that if 9/11 happened today I would not care that much
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
What
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
dude
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
What is wrong with you?
I’m sorry if that’s harsh but seriously.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Oklahoma City happened when I was about 10
It didn’t really affect me too much. 9/11 happened when I was 17. Its impact was profound.
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I was 14
totally changed my worldview. I remember checking snopes every day for like six months to figure out which rumors were true (I remember “malloween” in particular) and which ones weren’t.
maybe not initially, but the ramifications can't be ignored
9/11 has shaped our lives for better or worse and whether we care to admit it or not. i understand it not having a large impact on you personally, because to a degree it doesn’t impact me personally too much, but it happened and therefore is worth caring about.
by 'caring about'
i mean inasmuch as it affects your relations with others. also, i’m a nihilist, so my opinion will be different from most.
are we allowed to break out Big Lebowski quotes now?
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
Let me just go find an ATM.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Well I can't choose what I care about
I wouldn’t actively not care about it, and I would probably have enough sense not be a contrarian about it.
But I just don’t think it would ressonate with me. You could argue that in the history of the world, 3000 people being killed for idealogical reasons is like the 1000th’s worst atrocity of all time.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Again: you'd be surprised.
That sounds a lot like me before I knew better. That’s condescending, I know, but so it goes.
i completely agree
and i mean ‘care about’ in a very general way.
for the most part, it’s my philosophy to not worry about humanity at all. of course, on a personal level i do since i have feelings. i want to be happy, and it would be nice if most other people were happy as well. but big picture, it’s not important.
Alright cool, glad to see I'm not a monster
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
It's one thing to recognize the historical fact for what it is.
Yes, this was really not that many lives, compared to the run of human history. Fine.
I think it’s another thing to disclaim being affected by events like this at all. It’s not every day that death and geopolitics jump up and punch you in the face. At least not that hard.
To be clear, it's not that I wouldn't feel bad
Or feel that it was an unjust attack.
It’s just that it wouldn’t ressonate with me particuarly strongly and it wouldn’t change my outlook on life.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm just going to harp on this, then:
Your outlook on life is going to change many times between now and, say, age 30. This is how it works. You have no idea what will or won’t change that outlook until it happens. I know you feel that way, but believe me: you’re wrong.
it's not true for me
i admit that my outlook will change if/when i have a family, but again, i view humanity as a small, insignificant part of reality, and while i want my little sliver of humanity to be happy, i know, in the end, it doesn’t matter.
I'm sure it will
But it will change from new leaps in logic, rather than something like 9/11 which I already know has happened before.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe so.
Me, the older I’ve got the less I’ve come to trust in logic for any sort of answers. Even less for systematic ones.
Kindness? Generosity? The ability to put oneself in another person’s shoes and see the world from their perspective? I’m not arguing that those are necessarily better than logic, but surely they’re up there. (And I’m a mathematician). Of course it probably depends on what questions you’re trying to answer.
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
these things aren't mutually exclusive though
i empathize with all kinds of emotional things, but i still have no real feelings for humanity as a whole.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Those things don't really seem to be on the same category as logic though
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
Well, I think it depends upon your particular goal in any given moment.
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
They are, though.
You can use more than one type of guidepost to live your life.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
The beauty is that you don't have to peg
yourself to just one method.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
Exactly
I think it’s pretty apparent that I’m an extremely logical, methodical person by nature
And yet, here I am, getting married at 21 to a woman that I’m just 100% smitten by. There’s nothing logical about our relationship
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
that's not what I mean by logic
that’s following what makes you happy, which is perfectly logical.
I’m talking about feeling differently on something that your brain has already worked through due to emotions.
What peach was saying is that you could give a certain amount of respect to empathy or what not even if it disagrees with what you think. and that kind of makes sense, on a moral level.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
Sex, duh.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
by spants on May 2, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
there's a baseball analogy here, if you still don't understand
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
Empathy is pretty good.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The only trouble with logic is that
you have to ask whose logic it is. It has not been a static concept in history.
that's true, you have to start with some assumption
but that doesn’t mean you should keep going. understanding the limits of your logic is the most important thing you can know. that goes for emotions as well, of course.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually I shouldn't say this
I suppose I’m just a more logical person, while others are more emotional, I’m just saying I don’t know why I would suddenly switch.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
It's not like it would mean you would
become a vastly different person. But things can become more nuanced after these experiences.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
i think we should all watch some star trek
you’re obviously spock, the emotional ones are mccoy, and i’ll be kirk. i just want to bang an orion.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm a more logical person than most as well
I didn’t know how to feel real emotion until I met Kearsha
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
just as you might put 9/11 in perspective by saying you already know it's happened before
know that people suddenly changing in response to significant events or stimuli has happened throughout human history, and will happen.
Yeah I know
But 9/11 is not a significant event in the way that WWI was.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
I know an archduke that agrees with you.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
does not compute
9/11 essentially started a world war of its own
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, since at least the civil rights movement what event has been more signifigant?
(beside the OJ trial, obviously!)
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Not sure if serious on that last one.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
haha, totally not serious
as far as vietnam though, i can’t really say since i wasn’t there. but i hear it was a big fucking deal.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Soviet collapse?
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was a good one.
Kind of out of the blue like tonight, no?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Somewhat.
There was some indication that things were shifting, but the speed that the dominoes started falling was surprising.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I was too young to know what was going on.
Sounds like an amazing moment to be there.
(note: I still wish I was about 60 years old now. Or immortal and could live through all this cool shit.)
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
i guess we should just say cold war
that would include a bunch of that shit
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
well that's because this country made it a significant event, which other countries opted not to do
I’m talking specifically about what is more shocking – terrorists killin 3000’s people. Or something like 1 billion people (that’s the number, right?) being slaughtered by close range trench and chemical warfare.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
context is important
world war I came in the midst of years of fighting in europe, 9/11 came, what, 12 years after the “end of history”
the fact that we made it significant impacted the world
we went into afghanistan, then iraq, and also do missions in pakistan, such as this one. it has completely affected the entire world, where each country had to decide to join the war or not and then deal with their decision. perhaps the total number of deaths were less, but it’s on the same order.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
You mentioned three.
We are actually at war in about six other countries thanks to that day.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Right, I agree
But I’m talking about the specific event on 9/11 as a catalyst for changing how you feel about the world.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
that's semantics then i suppose
because wwi was “caused” by the assassination of archduke ferdinand, or our involvement in wwii by pearl harbor. but you can’t just separate the event very easily because when we think of the event, all of the associated events come with it.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
And neither of those wars were actually "caused" by those events
they were just the final straw.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I would say it's shaped world events on a massive scale
although of course if you compare everything to WWI it’s going to come up short.
anyway I’m suggesting that it’s almost certain that people very much like you were changed in very drastic ways in response to 9/11, and to much less than that.
Haven't you said that you should never compare players to HoFers?
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I don't agree.
9/11 really really has defined American foreign policy for the last decade. Our government pulled a complete 180 and we’ve been trying to rewrite our military strategy from scratch since then. regardless of how you feel about the actual events of that day, it’s impossible to downplay it’s significance in world events.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
in between 9/11 and the Soviet Union
there was just a bunch of aimless, plain vanilla prosperity.
then we finally found the next big pursuit to sink our budget into.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
just remember
that you have the luxury of saying it was insignificant. Others don’t. I’ve met some of these people and believe me they’d do anything to have that luxury. Maybe I’m off the mark, but you probably were born and have been provided for your entire life up until this point. It’s easy for you to draw grand conclusions about life because you really have no skin in the game in a sense; you know nothing of it yet.
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by mattyp on May 2, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I’m sure my perspective would be different if my dad died in 9/11 (or it might not be, the whole nature vs. nurture thing).
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
If I were in a philosophical mood...
I would say that the fact that you have feelings, want to be happy, and find the happiness of others to be normative is a performative contradiction to your “big picture” view. But I’m guessing that it’s just semantics.
i have feelings
and am aware that they are social constructs and highly dependent on how i fit in culture and society; i’m a moral relativistic. by big picture, i mean that humanity is not that important to me. the universe doesn’t care about us, and as such i have no particular feelings of pride of humanity. that’s my philosophy, anyway.
Contra nihilism.
Via explicit engagement with it as a real and valid thing. It’s pretty beautiful. And did a lot for me, coming from where you seem to be to where I am now.
i've been meaning to read nietzsche for a while now
but what is “it” that is engaged with? i found your first sentence vague.
should i just start with the reader
or one text in particular?
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
The Viking Portable Library volume
is pretty good. Don’t worry about Zarathustra at first though – hard to grasp it until you’ve gone through the corpus at least once (at least for me), because it’s a stylistic exercise as much as a philosophical one.
Specific things, if you want: Genealogy of Morals, Twilight of the Idols.
The usual Nietzsche you'd get
Would be Thus Spake Zarathustra, but it’s quite the go at first. Per our conversation here, Twilight of the Idols or Beyond Good and Evil might be good selections.
i'll let you guys know what i think of it when i get to it
which, admittedly, may be a while. :(
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I highly recommend FN.
Though, with the same kind of questions, I ended up tracking a lot more with Kierkegaard than Nietzsche, eventually.
/Flagged, religion.
You'd be surprised.
I was watching TV live when the second tower fell. I wasn’t quite 18 yet. I’m not trying to turn this into story-time, but watching thousands of people senselessly killed, as it happens, does things to you.
As a carefree, drunk 21 year old, it certainly changed my life.
(note: still drunk.)
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
It was pretty surreal
watching everything unfold. I happened to be off that day, and ended up watching tv for 36 hours.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
(I read that as BJ Rains say it, FYI.)
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I remember I got my first speeding ticket that night
I was really surprised there were cops out checking for speeders on that night, not at home with their family.
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
You're a senior in HS right?
I was a senior when it happened. When you’re at school and in every single class, you watch the news instead of do schoolwork, you care. When one day your teachers are telling you that you have to register for the draft when you turn 18 and the next something happens that makes you realize a war’s about to start, you care.
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
And you may or may not randomly cry for a few months because the weather is really similar to a certain day..
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I still about once or twice a year spend about an hour or two on youtube
watching news clips from that day. I have no idea why I do it, I just do. Watch David Letterman’s or Jon Stewart’s monologue from their first show back and try not to get misty-eyed.
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Stewart killed it that night.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqY3_0RSAXY
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Yeah.
I was only in sixth grade and we watched the news in every class. We had assignments on it. It was a little bit jarring to say the least.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
My sixth grade experience was watching the shuttle explode.
Since it was going to be the first teacher in space,
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
seriously, i'm only 33, i shouldn't feel this old
i was 23 when 9/11 happened & watched TV all day. my dad finally made us all leave the house around 7 & go out to eat. i was so upset i couldn’t eat & didn’t eat for a couple days. the restaurant was silent when GW made his speech that night, everyone stopped talking & got up & walked over to the bar to hear it. i’ll never forget that day.
Balls
eff off SBN,
Since it was going to be the first teacher in space, NASA thought it would be a good idea to make every school kid in the country watch that candle go off.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yup
I remember that one. Seventh grade.
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
i was driving in Poplar Bluff when we heard on the radio
the shuttle exploded. i was in what, 5th grade i think?
Balls
No way....you had to have been in second or third.
And you should have been in school. Were you skipping?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
we all had chicken pox & were driving to the DR
Jan 1986 i was 9, that’s 3rd-4th grade right? i was born in Oct & started 1st grade when i was 5 & turned 6 a month later
Balls
The weirdest day was the day after.
We didn’t exactly go on as if it hadn’t happened but we went back basically to normal. It was really bizarre.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I was still talking about 9/11.
Sorry if that was confusing. I was not alive for the Challenger Explosion.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I remember my mom was super pissed they didn't cancel school once it happened
She said she was this close to checking me and my brother out
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
My mom didn't know what to do.
My brother’s school didn’t even tell the students. He was only in 4th grade. They thought the kids were too young and they should near from their parents. My brother had no idea something had happened.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
My mom is a psychiatrist
She had some PTSD patients that day and she told them to watch Cartoon Network to get their mind off of it, because it was the only channel that wasn’t showing it
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I was in high school
somehow, I was busily going about my day and hadn’t heard. One of the teachers asked if I’d heard, then pulled me into the lounge to watch the coverage.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually that would probably make me care less
I don’t respond positively to authority pressure.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't take this the wrong way, but my God, you're a child.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, and this is coming from a 22 year old:
You’re really fucking juvenile sometimes
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VEP, not Fritz
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I am
But I don’t understand how rebelliousness is neccesarily a quality of a child.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
What you're describing isn't really rebelliousness.
It’s utter apathy.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
More of saying you'd be too cool for school
to care about 3000 civilians being murdered, an economy collapsing, and a handful of wars being started.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
AND FUCKING BASEBALL WAS CANCELED!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
That's not what I said
I said that teachers telling me how I should feel would not have an effect on me.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
No, this is what you said
I’m sure that if 9/11 happened today I would not care that much
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No, the comment that Fritz responded to
Is what this subthread is about.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you want me to repost it to the other comment?
Or should it fall under this one as well, since you are acting like a child here, too?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Dude, what the fuck?
I literally have no idea what you are talking about you.
JD said this:
When you’re at school and in every single class, you watch the news instead of do schoolwork, you care. When one day your teachers are telling you that you have to register for the draft when you turn 18 and the next something happens that makes you realize a war’s about to start, you care.
I said that would have the opposite effect on me, and you called me a child.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
One statement does not make you a child
SSS
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My comment was in regards to what rui highlighted.
Also, the fact you turned the murder of 3000 civilians into a SSS statement.
I apologize if I put it under the wrong comment of yours.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Well it would have been much clearer if you put it under the right comment
How did I turn the murder of 3000 people into a SSS statement.
And calling me a child for my first comment is ridiculous. Explain to me how that is a characteristic of being a child, specifically that the murder of 3000 people does not ressonate with me personallhy.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
You could argue that in the history of the world, 3000 people being killed for idealogical reasons is like the 1000th’s worst atrocity of all time.
Also, you apparently have the filter of an eight year old. It goes back to the “pick you battles” thing. The night we finally kill UBL (which a lot of people made their life’s goal and who a lot of people blame for their husbands, wives, borthers, sisters, childrens deaths) is probably not the best time to tell people you’d be indifferent to another 9/11.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I see
So when you realize that you made a mistake in calling me a child, you know attack my lack of tact.
Tell me, where you offended by what I said to start the thread?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
You're an idiot
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To clarify
My views wouldn’t change based on authority pressure, but the strength of it would.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
So just because authority told you you should care you would care even less?
Is that what you are saying?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
eh sort of
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
That's childish.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
It's not that I would care less
It’s that I would have to strengthen the feelings that I had in response.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Which would be to not really care.
S strengthening those feelings would be to care even less. Which is childish because you are not making up your own mind. You are letting your reaction to what other people tell you make you decide to not really care even less about a very big event in your life.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
No, strengthen those feelings would be doubling up
Not caring less.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
So you would care more?
You are being really confusing.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
It's like this
I say I don’t care about 9/11. My teacher tells me, “thats ridiculous, you are acting like a child, you’re wrong”, I think harder about why I don’t care about 9/11.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
Whatever.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Haha good luck getting married
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I'm sure I will bite my tongue in order to get married
Because that sounds like it would be nice.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
I was on the old side of draftable age when the first Gulf War started.
I was terrified. I’m not afraid to say so, I was a wreck.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
We knew that the draft was really a long shot, but it still scared the shit out of us.
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I enlisted under Clinton!
I was like, what the fuck? I didn’t sign up for this shit!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I really hope that, in 10 years, you look back and say "God I was such a dickbag 18 year old"
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I’m pretty sure that in 10 hours, I’m going to look back and say “Why the fuck didn’t I go to sleep at 10?”
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I am already looking back an hour and kicking myself.
Because now I feel wired.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
Is it all the arguing?
Because it’s got me completely wired as well. If I’m going to be up, I should be getting work done, but I’m not going to be able to concentrate on that. I’m so unprepared for tomorrow. Maybe I’ll go fold laundry – I can always rant to the sheets.
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I know.
I was trying to study. Now I am not.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
The discussion, sure.
But also my tendency to get another wind if I don’t go to sleep when I’m actually tired.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
Yeah that happens to me too. I think it’s from too many all-nighters in college. After a certain point my body decides it’s going to be up until 4pm.
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
In honor of this great day in American history,
I am going to pass up the o[[opportunity to compare your mother to a dickbag.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on May 2, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
She's busy serving her country.
Read: JSOC.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Don't worry.
You’ll probably do the same thing in 10 years, too.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
Probably
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By the way, you're never allowed to call me contrarian ever again
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you're just making him more likely to do it
by DanUpBaby on May 2, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sonofa-----
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i was eleven at the time
and I remember I was sort of pissed about how people were taking it. how 3000 americans were worth far more than 80,000 rwandans and stuff like that.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
This is true,
I mean, how many Palestinians have been killed? No wonder people are pissed over it.
/divisive
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
it was as if no disaster on this scale had ever happened before and Woe Is Me America
and I wrote about maybe hoping that having some personal tragedy would give us some empathy toward nations where 3K was a drop in the big-ass bucket of suffering. And then I gave this speech for my fifth grade current events class and they got mad at me.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
You should have just read the lyrics to "I am a real American."
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
i was an angry little kid.
it would have surely come out as sarcastic.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
i was 15
it had a pretty profound effect on me. on the other hand, it’s been 10 years. it’s great that he’s been taken out, but i’m surprised by the overwhelmingly celebratory reaction to it.
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
empathy
If you weren’t affected by the event personally, perhaps this would be a good time to listen closely to those people who – because of a personal loss or for some other reason – were , and to try to find a way to care about their hurt, grief, relief, etc.
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I would certainly feel bad for anyone I knew who lost someone
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by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
you've officially jumped the shark
Balls
by gdm426 on May 2, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
try not to say dumb stuff like that in front of people again
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27
by d-dee on May 2, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love when people take a simple statement
Extrapolate a whole bunch of meaning from it, and then use that to attack my character. Not you specifically.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
What kind of reaction were you expecting?
Maybe because you were so young this just didn’t resonate with you. But you have no way of predicting how something would affect you in the future.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
But I would
It’s not like I’m suddenly going to become a completely different person. I’m going to change, but I’m not going to do a 180.
I don’t think any single event, especially, could do that, because everything that could happen has pretty much already happened (unless we get into some stuff with technology, in which case that could change).
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
My own reaction to 9/11 caught me by surprise.
Intellectually speaking, I thought about it more like you and what purple_haze said above. But it emotionally resonated with me in a way that is still surprising to think about. You never know how something will affect you. We’re not robots.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
Well some of us.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
well....most of us aren't robots
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
it was a joke...referring to azru...
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I thought about how ridiculous it was, too,
that 10X that amount die in Africa like every week and we don’t really care.
Then I thought about some guy with a wife and a kid and a dog went from one second having his first cup of coffee of the day in his cube and the next had to decide wether to burn to death or jump 70 stories as his way to die, for no real reason of his own.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
It's like what the Joker said in The Dark Knight.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
No the thing about when it fits with what people expect
people don’t care but when it’s random and chaotic and doesn’t fit with expectations people freak out.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
So do you think about how much it would suck to be born in South Africa on a daily basis?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
South Africa? No.
Somalia, Ethiopia, DROC, Haiti, and some others? Yes.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
It's like
I know that it’s possible for me to be living in new york and have my dad been blown up. I also know it’s possible for my dad to be a rapist. it’s also possible for my dad to be a trillionaire.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
not really on the last one. nobody is a trillionaire.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11
mod note:
it’s hard to avoid politics in-thread tonight, and people are mostly doing a good job of remaining civil, but race in south africa is an avoidable discussion.
poor mods
Does all this talk mean that you have to stay up to make sure we remain civil?
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm usually on here pretty late anyway
because it seems like I can never get any blogging work done before midnight.
don't get me wrong, I was angry at 9/11, very angry
but i was also angry at the predictable nationalist militaristic reaction and the willingness of those in power to capitalize on that sentiment. and how it seemed that we were given an opportunity to reflect on our place in the world and what real loss means and we turned it into another Big Imperialistic Thing.
And now I’m way past politics warnings, so ban me if you must.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
by purple_haze on May 2, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
pretty much
"I do not want my mom to be Fredbird"
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
That's fair
I just can’t really envision a scenario in which something would effect me so emotionally.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
Perhaps you're a much more complicated person
than you realize. Perhaps there’s much to look forward to experiencing.
this it what keeps me going some days
i change and grow so much that i pretty much can’t wait to see how i’ll be ten years from now. it’ll be bitchin’.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think you're giving the unconscious mind enough credit
in the shaping of your life and everybody else’s.
i mean, if you were in America during 9/11, that was all there was
for months. It literally took months for any news article not related to 9/11 or the retaliation to make the front page of the Post-Dispatch.
Cartoon Network was broadcasting the news on 9/11.
It was impossible to be ambivalent.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
SARS! Get your masks, people!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
That was my people!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Your people love masks.
Last time I was in vegas, just random asians wearing masks!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Oh yeah they do that
Koreans think it’s absolutely TERRIFYING to sleep with a fan on because they think it causes you to die. Apparently Asians are huge hypochondriacs
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...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death
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Words aren't a baseball game
One sentence can be quite illuminating to someone’s character
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No, it can be quite illuminating to how elequent a person is/how people percieve words
That’s an incredibly judgemental thing to say. It would be like me saying you are an awful person because you think the Beatles are the best band of all time.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
You would be correct, though.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I am, in fact, a terrible person
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to be fair (and i don't know what your actual intention was)
your statement didn’t leave a lot of room for interpretation. it seemed awfully straightforward and obvious and you HAD to know that, reading it back to yourself. if you meant something else, you should have said something else.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
what he said means his world view is different
childishness is one possibility, but far from the only one.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Plenty of people were interested in it.
I personally didn’t get it. But that is quite possibly because this is the internet and it is hard to transmit exactly what you mean through a keyboard and onto someone else’s computer screen.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
but see, that's what people do, they make snap judgements
think whatever you want, but saying stuff like that out loud can make people draw all kinds of conclusions about you. once you make a statement like that it’s out of your hands. and you can’t tell me you actually didn’t think it was a risky thing to say
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27
can't believe i got the news on veb of all places
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27
FYI
Apologies for linking to a political site, but this was the first place I saw a direct link to watch this online.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
My mom just told me
I think it’s about the Freese injury.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, so this isn't the best time, but I'm thinking about it now.
Thanks to fourstick and nota bene on the heads-up on the Audio Technica headphones (and everyone who chipped in). I’ve been listening to fairly straightforward rock/pop with them and they’ve sounded great. But Miles Davis’ Feio just came up and there’s stuff going on here that I had no idea about before. There are sounds in my left ear that are crawling into my brain. Just amazing.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
Audio-Technica ATH-M50S But they were at $119 at the time.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The bad thing is that it makes listening out of earbuds so lacking
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
they're portable
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
what are good earbuds?
everyone I’ve had makes things sound tinny
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i've a pair
of these and they sound great.
inear earphones can do about 95% of what an over the ear monitor is capable of. heavy base isn’t quite as deep, and sometimes sounds aren’t as defined, but a good set aren’t lacking quality sound
i usually listen to a pair of hd600’s i got about 10 years ago and going to my hf5’s is no problem
by YesWeOquendo on May 1, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I wouldn't ever spend 100 bucks on earphones though
Becuase I always fucking break them.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
how so?
mine have a protective case (kind of like a softer altoids tin) and i throw it around and sit on it all the time. biggest problem is keeping them clean. apparently my ears are filthy
by YesWeOquendo on May 1, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I just put them in my pocket
And ever month I pull them out to find that they are broken.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry if this is politics (i don't think it really is)
but kind of effect does this really have? is al qaeda really weakened? won’t someone else just take over?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
My initial reaction is that it's more symbolic than anything.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
right
which is neat. and then i kind of feel like VEP
and i don’t mean hormonal
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
it's a nice feeling, huh?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
are you stoned?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
pj definitely smokes more than me
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
if you smoke like he smoke then you high like everyday
by DanUpBaby on May 1, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
big ol rec
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Like 2 times a week
And I’ve only been smoking j’s recently.
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
then, yes, i smoke more often than you
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
It probably is more symbolic and a mental change than one that will cripple them.
I don’t know… times are wierd.
my initial thought is that Bin Laden finally got what he's been waiting for.
In my mind, he needed to be captured. Killing him just created a martyr.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
probably didn't want it becoming a showtrial.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 2, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't edorsing trying him,
just put him away.
I agree with you though. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Al Qaeda's been weakened, for a long time now.
Operationally, I don’t think it’s very important at all. Symbolically though, it’s huge. And I do think this is a situation where symbolism might matter. We’re a short time away from significant Afghanistan drawdowns as it is, and the public mind seems focused on other things right now. It will be really interesting to see what effect this news has on our continued level of engagement overseas – FWIW I bet it accelerates a decline in deployment substantially. But we’ll see.
Anyway, it’s emotionally satisfying, so there’s that.
/end of “politics,” though I don’t think this is a very partisan issue
that last line is a good way of putting it
i guess it’s political in that it invovles foreign policy, but it’s not partisan
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
and certainly not as divisive as boat shoes
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
abortion's less partisan than boat shoes
speaking of which, mine are due for a trip through the washing machine. they’re starting to get a little rank.
I'm building a shrine to The Beatles in my back yard.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I glad Boog is gone. Theriot 4VR!
(jk! don’t hit me)
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
intangible are really important in baseball
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
They're so important you can almost feel it.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
dude, not here... wait for the man stew
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You guys are assholes!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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You could say that I'm a fan, I suppose
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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It's too recent for me to be able to speak about
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It's not in the sidebar,
but the beatles are on the same level as politics and religion right now.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
He thinks that the Beatles invented music
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
and so it begins.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
They did, jerkass
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you know who sucks? Schopenhauer.
What a tool.
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually have no idea who that is
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh! I never knew Schopenhauer was a philosopher!
Oh, yeah! He’s the one that begins with an ‘S’.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW, this is my second Meaning of Life reference today.
Schopenhauer might have something to say about that. But probably not.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
are you talking about washing boat shoes or fetuses?
or is it feti?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
This WILL devolve into political parties claiming responsiblity for killing Osama,
by tomorrow.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
yeah, this is a huge PR move for Obama
And because of this, it’s going to be a massive political issue
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by vivaelpujols on May 1, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
well, have you ever heard senator...
\retracts comment before deeply offending half the veb family\
… because that dude is fucking crazy!
Politicians do, sometimes,
but the cable networks will be all over this. I bet the morning shows start it.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
I bet they don't wait 'til morning.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Too many fucking people.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
by hazel on May 1, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I doubt it too. I suspect it starts about 15 minutes after
The president stops speaking.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11
by tom s. on May 1, 2011 11:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
TWSS
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by jd is legend on May 1, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the biggest effect it could have is actually on US-Pakistani relations
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Good point.
I’ll be really interested on the inside story re: Pakistani participation in whatever operation happened.
So I had eggs benedict for dinner tonight
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I made pancakes this morning!
OK, that’s not as good.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually had chicken and waffles
for dinner tonight, for the first time ever. It was amazing.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Bong and a crepe?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I woke up at 12:30
But we made Philly Cheesesteaks then
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I love brinner.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
hey everybody
i’m in san francisco! and i was walking around the city totally oblivious, posting pictures on facebook…that no one will ever see since at the exact same time they announced bin laden is dead.
anyway, also: franklin in for two innings? no. and freese? WTF. i am starting to believe in the curse. someone should write a book about it.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
You're in SF? I'm jealous.
Have a burrito for me.
by peach concrete on May 1, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert played 3B!
It was an awkward game for all of us.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert enjoyed it, though. he hasn't loaded that program in years.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i heard that - listened to most of the game before i had to turn off the electronic devices
i was stalling until shannon told me how the IF was set up after jay PH for greene. dirty looks from flight attendants who clearly don’t get it.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I'd make a derogatory comment about flight attendants
but they put up with plenty of shit, so I’ll hold my tongue.
As you can imagine, there was rampant speculation about that between innings here in the gamethread.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 1, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i posted one
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
work
meeting the morning then going right back to phx
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I would bet money that the number one prospect in America at the end of this year will be Manny Machado
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
wtf baseball
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by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, shit
i forgot the No Baseball rule on this politics blog.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
really?
he’s great, but bryce harper’s slugging .681 right now. I would imagine inertia keeps harper going even if their numbers stay similar.
Machado is doing about the same
but he’s a friggin shortstop.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
Is Harper still a catcher?
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by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
is he the one who busted down bin laden's door?
the firefight was really machado’s fastballs?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
i would really like to see obama's speech. google is failing me
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Not great quality, but should do the trick
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
that works. thanks man
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Yuh
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
excellent speech....i got chills
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Yeah, it was strong
Just a great night all around
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I was disappointed he didn't pull the microphone from the podium, drop it to the ground, and say, "we out"
but aside from that I enjoyed it.
by DanUpBaby on May 2, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
incoming gif, hope it doesn't kill the thread too much
but yeah, I kind of wish the speech had just gone:
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on May 2, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Yes it was
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
they only have excerpts.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
all the sites say they are going to as soon as its archived
btw, the gathering outside the white house is very cool.
i appreciate moments where americans can band together as americans, and not divided along party lines. i hope that we can all celebrate together, as one.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
yeah it's cool, tonight we all celebrate, be you liberal, conservative, wicca or whatever, it's a great night
USA USA USA USA
Balls
I know Bin Laden was the worst dude in the world
But honestly it feels weird to “celebrate” someone dying. I think it’s a good thing that he can no longer spread his hate and destruction in the world, but I have a really hard time celebrating someone’s death.
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Man, I was just about to post this.
Almost word-for-word of your first sentence.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
My education is, sadly, lacking for that sort of thing, I'm afraid.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I've never made a successful psychology joke, I don't think.
Just saying we were feeling the same thing, at the same time.
really? you guys don't get how huge this is?
this guy’s whole mission is life is to kill you & your family, and he did that to your fellow Americans. and now he can never do that again. if that’s not a cause for celebration i don’t know what is.
finally justice has been served
Balls
Well, its a giant game of whack-a-mole, so someone will replace him.
But still, fuck him even in death.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Pretty much this.
I’m not exactly sad to see him go, but I’m not going to jump up and down on his corpse either. There are plenty more boogymen out there.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I do like the fact that they say they are gonna handle his body in accordance with Islamic principles
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
I swear to fuck, if photos come out of a Abu G situation...
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
not that I didn't love DanUp's Weekend at Bernie's tweet
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
i'm of the belief they shouldn't do that
he never respected us or his religion so i don’t see why we should show him any kind of respect
Balls
Because we don't want more deaths.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Or, you know, we could be better people about this.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
for the lives of others if not his own
what we-america do in the wake of this is going to send a message no matter what it is we actually do. best to send the right one.
by DanUpBaby on May 2, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh yeah i get the politics of it all & i get why we will
my personal belief is we shouldn’t though. but yes, the whole world is watching, we better do it right
Balls
We don't rape rapists or beat up people who commit assault and battery.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
but we kill murderers!
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on May 2, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
uh-oh
shall we start on the death penalty? because I think that would be leading us down a divisive path…
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
At any rate,
we only kill some murderers, and we don’t kill them in the way they killed their victims.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
Yeah let's just kill this thread right here
/sunglasses
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure others would object to bring back those cartoons, but that’s one meme I really kind of miss. (I do NOT miss bacon.)
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I like that one too.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
That reminds me of the best father statement ever
“What you do to her, I do to you”
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by mysterui on May 2, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because we shouldn’t act any less human simply because someone else has tried to dehumanize us?
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
if i was in charge & didn't give a crap about how it looked
i’d put his body on display somewhere & then let everyone do whatever they wanted to.
but again, i get the politics, i get we have to send the right message. i just wouldn’t if i was king of the world. which i’m not.
but i should be! everyone would get free bacon!
Balls
free bacon?
it’s probably the redneck in me that feels that way. obviously i would never do it, but part of me wants to
Balls
sometimes maybe
i’m just really happy he’s gone. i’m not sure what i should be feeling other than joy.
Balls
i have very strong feelings, beliefs, whatever you call them
about how evil should be treated & punished. i know they may not be popular or heck even right. but i firmly believe that if you are evil as bin laden was, almost all bets are off as to what your punishment should be & how you should be treated once you are caught.
Balls
personally I think, in the abstract, that it's more important to maintain your own humanity as much as you can
than it is to punish evil beyond death.
i totally agree with this
we aren’t animals, there’s only so much we can do. and in fact i don’t think there is a punishment we could come up with that would be good enough for guys like hitler & bin laden.
i also know i have a problem sharing things i shouldn’t share. i shouldn’t have shared what i would do in a made up world where i had unlimited power & could control or didn’t care about the consequences. there is evil & stupidity in all of us. normally i have a better handle on it than tonight. i’m sorry to everyone for over sharing.
Balls
He was still a person.
He may have been a terrible person but he was still a person.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Not this.
We are people. He may or may not have been, but stooping to such acts degrades the actor more than the target. He’s already dead anyway.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
Well yeah it degrades the actor more.
And we’re going to have to disagree, he was a person.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
We're better than that
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Because we are not lowering ourselves to his level.
We are being the bigger man.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
martyr.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm not celebrating him being dead. I'm celebrating the guys who killed him.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
this.
its not celebrating his death, its celebrating a national sense of closure.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Well said
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I'm fairly certain that plenty of people have been and will be celebrating the death of Osama Bin Laden
the person.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I like this
Those guys are badasses. One of my friends’ updated his facebook status to say something like “I can’t wait to see the National Geographic special on the special forces operation”
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd give both nuts to be in the room when the mission was green lighted.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I agre with this.
It seems weird to celebrate that people can be so bad that we would even consider celebrating the death of another human being.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Look.
I’m glad they can’t hurt anyone else. Our military is awesome and did an awesome job. I am not happy that people can be so bad that they pretty much had to die.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
That doesn't mean we should celebrate it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
He was just misunderstood.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It is a weird feeling.
They are interviewing revelers right now…it’s odd.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
AMERICA
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Beat you to it, asshole
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
there is no way i can go to sleep right now
i should just pull an all nighter, i’m sure my interviewer will understand. i bet he’s watching this too
Balls
Is one a bowtie?
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by jd is legend on May 2, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope so!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53hiHAkK6KA
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 12:47 AM EDT reply actions
This is one hell of a session on here, late night VEB.
Anybody still pissed about Franklin or Theriot’s glovework? haha.
I like the feeling of this night and all
but I love baseball more
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
Josh first. Baseball second.
I guess the baby will fit in between.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
I've gotten to the point where the ex is back down to being tied with baseball
progress!
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
Bin laden is responsible for Jeter's "Mr November" nickname.
NEVER FORGET.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I'd not mad at Theriot...
It’s not like his crappy defense is new.
Branch Rickey was right – this was unlucky, it was the results of bad design. Theriot should not be a SS. And if you use a pitch to contract pitcher that cannot strike anyone out, you should not have a bad defense.
I do wonder if they think of pulling him out off of SS when his errors are approaching 30
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
+1
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm hanging around to see what the title of the overflow thread will be.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I really don’t like Theriot, even if his OBP is good
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Before the season, I didn't think I would like Theriot
but it is really nice having a SS at the plate who hasn’t been a black hole. The increase from Ryan to Theriot offensively has been very asthetically noticeable.
Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?
Adequate!
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
He has great adequatulance.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
…rhymes with flatulence… heh..
(What? I taught middle school for a long time. It can change you.)
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Would love him at 2B though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I think when Al explained why his offensive improved
b/c he’s a SS again and he didn’t hit last year as a 2B b/c he wanted to be a SS… that was probably the most angry I have ever been watching a Cardinals game.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I didn't see that but that sounds ridiculous beyond normal Al standards?
Did dan call him out on it, agree with it, or just let it go?
Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?
I'd hope just ignore it
I bet he agreed. That’s dissapointing, but not terribly surprising.
Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?
I'm simply not listening to Dan / Al / Ricky this season unless I can't get the Cards any other way.
I’ve been much happier this year avoiding them.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I would defiantly give that a shot.
I’ve liked what little I’ve heard him on pre/post games.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
defiantly?
bah
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
VINCE
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 2, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who was/were the announcers on non-KPLR channels before Dan/Al/Ricky?
I’m too young to remember. I know Joe Buck did a bunch of Cards game in the last decade, but nobody else is coming to mind
Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?
Wow, I have to think about that.
Bob Carpenter was in there for a while. Hrm.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
According to the great and powerful wiki
(all hail!) no one else of note, really.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
People I remember, kinda remember, or are significant
Jack Buck, Joe Buck, Rich Gould, Wayne Hagin, Joel Myers, Ken Wilson, Bob Ramsey
Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?
I think he ignored it.
While eating a Big Mac and drinking a Mich Ultra.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
i could really use an overflow
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Fuck. I still have paperwork to do.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
i have a presentation defending my thesis tomorrow
picked a bad night to go over it for the first time
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27
Ouch.
Would it help if I told you to get the hell off of VEB and don’t come back tonight? ‘cause I’d totally do that if it helped.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
i'll take the hint to heart
and i’m outta here
thanks
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 27
I've taken a new tactic
On this dating site I’ve decided to see if the women who say they love the Cardinals really do by asking them what the Cardinals should do with Franklin.
Its probably extremely counterproductive but sometimes you just have to entertain yourself.
bollocks
No
Just started doing it yesterday
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on May 2, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I just typed "OT" but I guess it's as on-topic as anything we've got cooking.
Was there some talk about a QC VEB day?
In QC? Or QC playing at Busch?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I think it was one of the Mattys who mentioned it offhand.
I was just wondering if anything more came of it.
Are the tickets to the QC game in Busch available now?
Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?
apparently they are
but the QC website won’t let me order tickets now.
Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?
that'd be easy to attend for me actually
well, sort of easy
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I was interested because I can't make regular VEB day,
and it sounded like at least a couple of others were around.
there's a pretty big qc contingent here
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Ahhh i was *this* close do deleting my facebook account because shit is ridiculous
then this gem jumped up:
Death of Hitler: Apr 30, Death of bin Laden: May 1, Death of Voldemort: May 2. Coincidence?…. probably. Still cool.
not bad facebook, not bad
by YesWeOquendo on May 2, 2011 1:45 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
there is no way I was 5 when I finished the last book
It was like 2005.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
that's actually pretty cool
do you think harry potter is the most comperhensive universe created in a series of books?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
no way
star trek and star wars both have zillions of books on them
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
though to be fair,
i’m not sure how the canon sees them
by Shi on May 2, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
there are a lot of holes in it if you look deeply enough, mostly related to economics and population
but it’s certainly the one I’ve enjoyed the most. I’m sure the lord of the rings universe is much more hefty, among others, but for me it’s always been less interesting.
I think I’ve mentioned this here before (which means we’re just about due to revisit the literary horror that is Twilight), but it’s the details of the Harry Potter universe that I’ve always appreciated the most, specifically people moving in and out of paintings and many-flavor-beans.
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this.
The Harry Potter universe feels very “lived in”.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
\o
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
QUANTUM LEAP WANTS A WORD, JERKS
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Have you read Jung on the collective unconscious?
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
not really related, but still
it’s funny how when the phrase ‘quantum leap’ is used in popular culture, it’s as if it’s this huge thing. for example, ‘this new film from smith is a quantum leap in filmmaking.’ actually, a quantum leap is the smallest damn thing you can do. anyway, i just thought i’d share that.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Now it just means Scott Bakula and a ass butt of awesomeness.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
poor, poor peach.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
second use of "quantum" on page.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Tolkien
(and many other fantasy series)
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
In the books.
Not when they were released.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
There are some pretty gruesome Bin Laden photos floating around the internet
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what a decade of bloodlust looks like. (OBVIOUS WARNINGS, ETC…)
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I'd blame the terrorists.
Or Obama.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Just saw some.
My first thought: “Cool.” Second thought: “That should not be my first thought.”
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
nothing wrong with that
Tarantino made millions doing that with Inglorious Basterds.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
I have a very warped sense of mortality, anyways.
I cry hearing about the death of strangers but have never cried at a funeral of a family member or friend.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Like: LEGOS!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i still pause before star wars LEGO displays in the store.
i’m eyeballing some of those Hoth sets.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11
whoa
you definitely have to read this twitter feed
http://twitter.com/#!/ReallyVirtual
it’s probably gonna get way overexposed in the coming days, but this guy just got way famous entirely by accident.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
ReallyVirtual Sohaib Athar
Helicopter hovering above Abbottabad at 1AM (is a rare event).
10 hours ago, FYI.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
it sounds like something out of rocky and bullwinkle.
“hey boris, where did you grow up?”
“i am growing up in rillibad. is near abbotabad.”
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11
by tom s. on May 2, 2011 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you for posting that.
I love the idea of that guy working on his laptop in a coffeeshop while the raid was happening. Really interesting.
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
it's a perfect storm of major historical event and trendy social media interest story
this guy’s life just exploded.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
he seems pretty sharp and genuine
Uh oh, now I’m the guy who liveblogged the Osama raid without knowing it.
hope it doesn’t mess anything up for him
it also humanizes Pakistan and Abbottabad in particular.
One way all this interwebs stuff is helpful.
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
As I mentioned
a week or so ago, I am living in Peshawar, which is only 1 1/2 hours by road from Abbotabad (pronounced Abtabad locally). I have 2 local staff living there who heard the operation, but didn’t know what it was. The mother of another of my staff lived in the same neighbourhood, so she heard it all too. That certainly humanizes the situation. One of my concerns, amongst others, are the reprisals that may take place. Some like the riot in Mazr-e-Sharif in Afghanistan a few weeks ago over the koran burning that left several innocent foreigners dead, and other more carefully planned repercussions that may take months to take place. One should not forget that to many people, he was a hero. Certainly puts a different perspective on the situation.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 2, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
The worst part of it will be
that now he is a martyr and it will have a galvanizing effect.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 2, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully
not. The committed are presumably already committed. The question is to what extent others may be galvanized.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 2, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
hopefully the bit about the million-dollar manse will be emphasized.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
does that house really stick out in that neighborhood?
the news has been saying it’s huge & out of place, like someone should have known & probably did know he was there & they were hiding it from us
Balls
The man just wants a decent cup of coffee!
And electricity.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
how come you can have a skype convo
and reactions are immediate, but the video conversations on the news have like 15 second delays still?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
As soon as you try to VTC over an ocean, it gets real dicey.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
why don't they just skype? it's so much better
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
durn news fails to happen inside foreign internet cafes.
and do you really want as your backdrop three egyptian guys playing call of duty: black ops?
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11
I had kept the tab open, so I opened it again in a new tab to compare
I was surprised by how little DanUp hid.
But there wasn’t anything really shocking or too polarizing, anyway
VEB allows for open historical conversations.
As long as nothing too outlandish occurs.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
it's a particularly weird occasion
if we talked about a lot of these things outside the context of today I’d probably be more heavy-handed.
STILL NO OVERFLOW? WHAT'S IT GONNA TAKE? KITTENS?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Chitown, are you a fan of the band Family?
They seem like they’d be right up your alley.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
do not know of them
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
They are like heavy, pyschodelic prog rock
This is my current favorite, but there is a lot to go through still.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_853dXkZi_I
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
I'm always down for hearing new psyche or prog
thanks
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
diggin this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wtuApXR3CU&feature=related
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
more beefhearty
I like crazy songs, music rulz
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
speaking of prog rock
early genesis fucking rocked. and then peter gabriel left and phil collins fucked it all up.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
genesis, yes, etc
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
most of those bands turned to crap in the 80s or even late 70s
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
no doubt!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Gentle Giant
was not as commercial.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 2, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
"Sledgehammer" is my most-played song on iTunes
True story
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still a great video 25 years on.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11
yeah, my environmental science teacher showed them to me
they were finally able to kick my Pink Floyd addiction (which last for like 3 months).
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
not that its prog rock
but deep purple is severely underrated. first of all, ‘smoke on the water’ kinda sucks, but that’s all anyone knows of them for the most part. this song rocks, as does most everything else, such as burn, child in time, highway star, etc. if you haven’t really listened to them, you should. they are a real nice take on classic rock, imo.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Heh. Lazy just came up for me.
I forgot how good it was. The opening is just fantastic.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on May 2, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
how more people know and like the doors to deep purple
is just a travesty
by Shi on May 2, 2011 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
i hate jim morrison and the doors
well, hate is a bit strong i guess, but i strongly dislike them
by Shi on May 2, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Pump your brakes
The Doors are awesome
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c'mon they are so good
Even if you don’t like Jim Morrison you have to like Ray Manzarek and Robby Kreiger.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
i don't mean to say they aren't talented
i just don’t care for their sound. at all. i used to, by now i find the lyrics stuffy and the music itself as rolling stones lite. they just aren’t on my playlist.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions
also, bowie is god
simply the best of all time. OF ALL TIME!
by Shi on May 2, 2011 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions
It was a sad day
when I realized the line was “making love with his ego” and not “making love with his eagle”
bowie is boring
wow our music tastes don’t exactly match up lol!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
most of my family and friends dig it
kinda boring to me
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah I knew what you meant
But I would think you could still enjoy some of the playing. Like Guns and Roses with Slash.
The Doors are way more Pyschodelic than the Stones, whom I actually don’t like that much.
Tell me you at least like Chrystal Ship?!
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
guns and roses? don't get me started
certain doors songs in vacuum are okay, but the lyrics are just shit for the most part. mainly, it’s an emotional response on my part because i find morrison insufferable and, like purple_haze said, they were popular largely for their image.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
and guns and roses' cover of knocking on heavens door
is the worst thing i’ve ever heard
by Shi on May 2, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
listen to this
its from supertramp, which was pretty good in its prime. it even samples a churchill quote, which seems appropriate tonight.
by Shi on May 2, 2011 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
they aren't bad
some of there stuff went a bit too far to pop, but they good stuff is classic
by Shi on May 2, 2011 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
guns and roses = overrated
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
meh he isn't all that
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
he's pretty freaking good
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by vivaelpujols on May 4, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't stand the rolling stones
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they're a great band
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
The Doors made a lot of headway on the strength of Jim Morrison's sexiness
I’m more upset that The Doors surpassed their mentors, Love, who wrote and performed my single favorite song of all time.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
that was pretty good
i haven’t heard of them before
by Shi on May 2, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
deep purple is good
I have their album ‘burn’
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 2, 2011 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Have you heard
the Atomic Bitchwax, out of New Jersey. I really like them. In part, Deep Purple is one of their influences. They do a great cover of Maybe I’m a Leo
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 2, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I've heard them
they aight
"I do not want my mom to be Fredbird"
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i know all those songs.
then I found punk rock and didn’t care anymore.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
I mean, Richie Blackmore is basically a Jimmy Page wannabe
he even started a Renaissance music band.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
you're underselling blackmore by a lot
i don’t know about his renaissance stuff as that is quite recent
by Shi on May 2, 2011 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
punk rock
heh (the melvins are the most punk rock)
"I do not want my mom to be Fredbird"
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, Deep Purple was an influence on the guy who wrote the music for Zelda
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
That last word makes this comment okay.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on May 2, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Did you get all the railroads?
(/I have never played a full game of monopoly to the end, so I don’t really know what I’m saying.)
by peach concrete on May 2, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
All but Short Line.
Definitely the key to amassing disposable income in the early stages
by clank on May 2, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I own and play St. Louis in a box
it is monopoly except St. Louis places… pretty badass game
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
I was just looking at all the various spin-offs a few hours ago
My sister is absolutely getting German Shepherd-opoly for Christmas.
(she doesn’t actually like dogs)
We have Clemsonopoly.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
This thread got long quick
Looks like VEP was the firestarter. Not surprising
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on May 2, 2011 7:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
on-topic!
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/sports/baseball/02mets.html
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
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