Matt Holliday will eat your appendix for lunch and then hit a homerun
St. Louis is 16-11 on the season. We're winning 59.3% of our games. That translates to a 96-66 record on the season. The Reds are currently two games back. Prior to looking that up, I would not have guessed the season was going that well. My liver certainly doesn't think the season is going that well. Given the bullpen meltdowns and injuries to key players the Cardinals have suffered to start the season, it felt like we were closer to . . . say Seattle's record than the Rangers' or Yankees' record.
When a team is performing this well there's usually a lot of reasons that play into it. The starting pitching has been mostly quite good. Kyle Lohse is pitching as well as he ever has. Kyle McClellan seems better equipped to handle 6 innings than I would have wagered. Chris Carpenter, at 36, remains an elite pitcher. Jaime Garcia has increased his strikeout rate and decreased his walk rate building off of a legitimate ROY campaign. Jake Westbrook has scuffled early but turned in an impressive outing last time. Suffice to say the rotation is better than average.
The position players are nothing to scoff at either. Colby Rasmus, while in something of a cool streak right now, is hitting over .300 for the season and getting on base nearly 40% of the time. Lance Berkman has been an absolute revelation on offense. Berkman has, in some ways, stolen the offensive narrative from the team during the early parts of the season. David Freese continues his trek down the path of unsustainable numbers with a 4.4% walk rate, .468 BABIP, 25% K rate and a .365 batting average. How that all balances out in the end . . . well don't think about that. Yadier Molina has rebounded back to league average offense. Ryan Theriot continues the bizarre OBP>SLG trend doing an admirable job out of the leadoff position.
The player I really want to talk about today though is Matt Holliday. Lego is rapidly becoming my favorite player on this team. The jolly Cardinal giant is having an incredible year as well. But let's go back a bit first. . .
The Cardinals acquired Matt Holliday by shipping over Brett Wallace, Clayton Mortensen and Shane Peterson to the Oakland Athletics one weekend as I drove to Springfield, MO to watch the AA team. (I still remember thinking Fritz was trolling me with the text message about the trade.) It was a heady collection of prospects including our top 2008 draft selection and second pick in the 2007 draft. The trade ultimately revolved around what you thought of Brett Wallace at the time and many people thought that he was worth far more than a half season of Matt Holliday. (Reaction Threads 1 & 2)
Holliday hit .353/.419/.604 for the Cardinals in 2009 and was a significant part of their playoff push before an unfortunate missed catch in the playoffs erased everyone's memory of his regular season heroics. Needless to say, Cardinal fans were a little disgruntled with the early offseason in 2009.
Then the Cardinals began the process of re-signing Matt Holliday and this is where history gets quite interesting to me. Let's take a quick look at two players:
| Player 1 | Player 2 | |
| .336 | wOBA | .396 |
| -1.2 | UZR | 6.6 |
| 1.4 | WAR | 6.7 |
The player on the left is Jason Bay's 2010 season. The player on the right is Matt Holliday's 2010 season. Bay signed a 4 year, $66M deal with a $17M club option. Matt Holliday signed a 7 year, $120M deal with the Cardinals. If we set the market rate at $4M/year and accept these WAR numbers at face value for true talent, Bay's contract is worth about -$55M in surplus value. Yes, you read that right. Bay, using the specious assumption of his 2010 season, is worth about $11M between 2010-2013. Matt Holliday by the same calculations would be worth about $190M or $70M more than what we will be paying him for the life of his contract.
Now, those are specious assumptions. We should use some kind of weighted Marcel projection at a minimum to get a true talent derivation and go from there. That said, the disparity in those contracts is appalling. Surely the reactions at the time were equally disparate? Right. Here's the thread with my favorite cherry picked excerpt:
Makes the Bay contract look really goodI don’t dislike Holliday, but we definately negotiated as if he had all the leverage. I’m sure other teams wanted Holliday, but for 7 years? I doubt it.
Just like the Lohse contract, Mo was way to quick with the trigger. You have to play a little hardball as a gm.
by The Birds
Don't worry though because elsewhere the Bay signing was touted as one of the best of the season and the Holliday signing wasn't even a blip on the meter. We were all busy complaining about the length of the Holliday deal as well without acknowledging that he was an elite player getting paid what looked like market value for his effort. (More reactions here.)
Now, there were obviously some mixed opinions on both sides of these signings when they occurred but one year later, would ANYONE take Jason Bay's contract over Matt Holliday? Does anyone think it looks like we overpaid for Matt Holliday? At the time I argued that the contract was something at or very near his market value. A year later, there's a strong case to be made that the Cardinals have a chance to significantly underpay Holliday during the life of his contract. They certainly underpaid him last year . . .
. . . and it looks like they will again this year. Holliday is a notoriously slow starter but this April he's been nothing shy of amazing sans appendix and all. Holliday is currently hitting .408/.511/.618 and has accumulated nearly 2 WAR in a month's time. That's astounding. While he has a BABIP that even Freese is envious of, Holliday's walk rate is up to 14% and his isolated power remains at a heady .200+. ZiPS projects him to end the season with a wOBA over .401 -- a feat matched only by Lance Berkman with Pujols clocking in at a .397 end of year projection.
The Cardinals took some heat for this contract. They were "bidding against themselves" and giving "too many years on an average value contract" but this contract looks solid with the benefit of a year's hindsight. More importantly, Matt Holliday continues to power the Cardinals to wins in the present season and is a big part of why the Cardinals are playing like a 96 win team right now. So when the talk turns to Lance Berkman's incredible rebound, Albert Pujols long time heroics, the starting rotation's impressive ability or any other of a myriad of stories, don't forget Matt Holliday. He's pretty freakin' good in his own right.
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Posts like this always make me happy that I've always been on the Holliday bandwagon
and via FSMW twitter: Punto 4, Rasmus 8, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Freese 5, Molina 2, Theriort 4, Garcia P
or for d-dee:
Punto 4
Razmataz 8
APU 3
Lego 7
Fit Elvis 9
Batman 5
Yadi 2
sswithinadequatearm 4 (fsmw effed up with either this or Punto, but a guy can hope Tony has him at second base!)
Hotme 1
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
Lineup fail...
this is how Punto ends up sucking. Over exposure. What’d Theriot do?
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
The Riot still has sore ribs
intracostal strains are hard to recover from
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Greene 6, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Freese 5, Molina 2, pitcher, The Riot 4
Then he shouldn't be playing.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
yes, batting 1 vs 8 is gonna be less strain on the injury?
this is why Greene is on the roster
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
i didn't like the trade
but i was cool with the contract
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
i was lukewarm on both
and holliday was one of my favourite non-cardinals before he signed. In retrospect, seems like Mo did a solid job on both. I always had a feeling we’d end up missing Mortensen more than Wallace, which might be the case.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 1, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
My happiest surprise
Is how good he has been on defense. That really makes all difference in the world. Especially in the longevity of his contract. Look at Bruan, Dude is horrendous on defense and is just going to keep getting worst.
I wonder if Matt will still be better with the glove in year 6 or 7 than Braun is with the glove right now
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
not that it means much, but UZR still likes his glove this year
who knew?
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
what does UZR say about Brendan Ryan this year?
(poking bear with stick)
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
UZR Boog -1.8, with Theriot at -2.4
TZ has Boog at -2, and likes Theriot less -5
fWAR Boog -0.3, Theriot 0.4
bWAR Boog -0.3, Theriot 0.0
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Not even looking at the numbers, Theriot has looked worse on defense than I'd hoped he'd look
But his OBP has been better than I’d hoped as well. I guess I’d take that trade. Theriot’s ability to keep the lineup turning so we can get to Rasmus, Pujols, Holliday, Berkman, Freese has been important to the offense’s success.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
i thought that was implied when i said "not that it means much"
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
don't hiss at me
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
by purple_haze on May 1, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
booo
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
*snicker*
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
what's worse is that UZR is essentially a backward looking statistic
so the complaint of sss is pretty worthless anyway.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
most statistics are backwards looking
otherwise they are projections. or xFIP.
SSS complaints aren’t worthless, they mean that the sample is not representative of true talent. i’m just kind of tired of hearing them. i’m not stupid, i don’t need sample size warnings 40,000 times during the month of April. Twenty thousand will do, thanks.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
by purple_haze on May 1, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
well damn, I should have just read this response first
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
but yeah, I agree
that the “SSS” thing can get annoying, especially since everyone here is knowledgeable enough to know when its implied
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I do wish that people would give
what they think is a good sample size though. It helps keeps it clear in my mind as to what context we are speaking.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I defer to the statheads
here, but I seem to recall that the general consensus is that it takes 2-3 years of UZR data to get a reliable representative sample
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I wasn't directing that at you, it was just and "in general" statement.
UZR is about the only one that I’m very clear on what one needs for a good baseline. Like Holliday’s start last year wasn’t truly representative of what kind of year he’d end up with, but I’ve seen SSS sited clear up to the ASG before on certain things. It cornfuzzles people that aren’t always good with that kind of thing.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well all stats grow continuously more representative
Do you want us to show the 50% point or something?
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
same applies to holly's contract
2 partial years into a 5 year deal
tells you very little about how better or worse it is comapted to bay or anyone else
i also want to throw in that holliday’s hot start may be directly correlated with bman’s hot start
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
LUCKY FOR YOU IT'S MAY
JERK
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
It's a fresh start.
only 19,998 more to go this month before he freaks out.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not sure I fully agree
One could say that SABR stats are mostly descriptive. But the rest of the statistics world is more concerned about inference. But I fully concur about the SSS disclaimers every post. In fact, no one ever defines what SSS in a particular case. (It’s not N<20).
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
No, SSS also means that the statistics aren't representative of true performance
I’ve been hammering this point home for the past week.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
what do you suppose
would happen if I get into this conversation?
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 1, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
just having fun
but, you might be just the guy to ask something.
Is there a fairly easy way to find a player’s best 25 game stretch in a season?
I’d like to see that for a few players.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
I would hunt around Baseball Reference. If you look at games logs there should be a way to find a players best stretch.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
sounds intense.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 1, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
or a good secretary
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
by Dave Pendleton on May 1, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
This means that when a player has a 3.4 UZR in 20 games
Not only is that not predictive going forward, it also means that the player most likely did not really save 3.4 runs.
If you want estimates of the percentage values, UZR after 20 games is like 3% predictive and maybe 15% descriptive (WAG).
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
Bust SSS isn't just meant to caution that a certain stat isn't
predictive. It also means that the stat cited requires a large sample size to be a reliable and meaningful representation, and that is especially true with UZR.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on May 1, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's why i said "what's worse."
the comment itself already accounted for your second point when it said “not that it means much.”
also, moreover, and as a general matter, this site isn’t very statistics savvy (which is fine). it likes to use newer, “better” stats, like wOBA or UZR, but many don’t understand basic principles of probability or statistics, like whether “n” is significant or not. N’s like 20, or even less, can be significant (literally or figuratively), depending on the distribution and the context of what’s being measured. Many times somebody makes a “SSS” complaint when “n” is objectively small, when the sample is actually fine.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lego's great right now
but I don’t want to see the end of that contract. I understand that to acquire top talent sometimes a team must extend past its comfort zone, and the seven years given to Holliday falls solidly into that category, but damn, that’s SEVEN years.
check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos
We're playing for the next three of four years.
Especially if we manage to extend Pujols. Just focus on the near term and hope the Cards make some serious noise in the playoffs in that timeframe. Hopefully, that’ll make 2015-2017 a little easier to swallow.
I dunno.
I’m too busy/lazy to do the math, but with salary inflation I’m not sure $17M will look all that bad in 2016, when he’s 36. I figure the going rate will be $5.5-6M per WAR by then, and it’s not unreasonable to think he’ll be good for 3 WAR at that age.
But tell me more about Lyoto Machida....
Ralph Macchio could not have pulled off that kick any better. Un-fucking-real.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
and thank you
just watched that on youtube. Awesome. Not quite Gonzaga kicking off Crocop’s head awesome, but awesome nonetheless.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Thank goodness for some of the earlier events
because Jake Shields and GSP delivered the most sucktastic boring fight of the year. The Aldo fight was fun until he gassed but Lyoto definitely was awesome to watch as was some of the other KOs.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
This makes me feel
like I bought the right jersey when I got his over all the other options. At the very least I knew he was going to be around for awhile.
bollocks
nice post, azru.
Hollidome has turned out better than I ever expected on both sides of the ball. He’s gone from being a very Meh defender to be a very adequate defender and you really don’t get the full impact of an offensive player like him unless you get to watch it every day.
Also, let’s see who can spot the thing that made go o..O in this article: strauss
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions
he's always been a good defender
everyone just got the wrong idea after he booted a couple of balls in 2009 (including THAT nutshot…)
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 1, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
no, there have been awkward misses before that. with the Rox.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I won't say he was a bad defender.
I just don’t think that he was as good as he is now.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
don't you think it's more likely that he essentially stayed the same and other things
like the population he is being compared to, the field he plays on, and yearly measurement error or changes in the way a stat is measured are more likely to account for the differences?
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It's entirely possible.
But I thought all that was adjusted for. I do realize that playing in Oakland would be like playing in SD. Both those parks are like the Grand Canyon and the death of OFs.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
you should look up the article on fangraphs that references how playing in Coors
affects OF UZR.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 1, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
okay, I'll do that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
caption
what you don’t see are the cheap shoes.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"I got a raise. Didn't you?"
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on May 1, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If before the season started, you had told me that on May 1
, and I would feel ____________ about it, I would have ___________.
veb would've turned into a porn site
happy about it
cancelled some subscriptions
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
If you told me before the season that on May 1st, Ryan Franklin
would be pulled from the closer role, I would be happy, and would have told you that even if that costs us a few games it is absolute necessity to get Franklin out of that role before the home stretch of the season and the playoffs (GOB willing), where he would inevitably fuck it all up for us.
(ignore my probably awful use of tenses)
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
glad you wrote this.
I just put up a FanPost and pretty much led off with Matt Holliday because I felt he was being just a bit over looked…just a bit.
I also like it because I have a different view of the team (without looking at the numbers) and you just told me that the numbers say the team is better than you thought. It does my heart good to be able to trust what I see, even if it’s just for a little while.
Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.
it's that mountainous quality of his. easy to overlook.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he SHOULD be the NL player of the month for APril
although I’m guessing his lack of HRs and Ethier’s hitting streak might work against him.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 1, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
With Skip injured,
it’s as if TLR looks around the clubhouse for another short middle infielder to lead off. Punto is an acceptable utility infielder. His ability to field well and work a walk make him far preferable to Aaron Miles. That being said, Punto should probably no ever bat lead off. Another concern, with Punto starting, who will TLR PH with to lay down a sacrifice bunt?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on May 1, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm I right in thinking Descalso's a bad bunter?
I seem to recall him having trouble getting one down a time or two this year. Also, I hate having to take that question seriously.
Re: Punto leading off, yeah… nice to see the worst hitter on the team having his plate appearances maximized. Never change, Tony.
by Pegasus on May 1, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and if you have portal for steam,
you can play all these maps, plus more in the actual 3D game
http://portalmaps.wecreatestuff.com/
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I am actually have more problems with the flash version than I did with Portal 2
by FlimtotheFlam on May 1, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, definitely
portal 2 is really easy. i just found those maps after i beat portal 2 and i’ve put in way more tim eon them. haven’t finished them yet
you should definitely import the maps into steam, though. it’s way more fun than the flash version
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I was kind of dissapointed how easy Portal 2 was
I never really got stuck.
by FlimtotheFlam on May 1, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for that that game seems like a lot of fun.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Today in baseball history (1979)
Trailing the Astros 6-3 in the 11th with 2 outs, Roger Freed hit a Grand Slam scoring Tony Scott, Ken Oberkfell, and Steve Swisher. Ken Boyer was the manager.
That was the day I was born. I’ve been a Cards fan ever since.
"Defense is important to this team," second baseman Skip Schumaker said.
happy birthday, May you get a Cardinal win.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 1, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
lineup per @mlbdailylineups
has Theriot playing SS. so lineup reads like this: Punto 2B, Rasmus CF, Pujols 1B, Holliday LF, Berkman RF, Freese 3B, Molina C, Theriot SS, Garcia P
braves lineup
Prado LF, Heyward RF, Jones 3B, McCann C, Uggla 2B, Gonzalez SS, Mather 1B, McLouth CF, Lowe P
Mather is really playing 1B?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Why not?
Freeman bats left handed.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by StanTheManFan on May 1, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
he's played 1b for us several times too
it’s not like he can’t
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 26
Is he the worst hitting starting 1B in baseball today or is Adam Kennedy playing 1st again?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
no telling, bombs only has one ab in the bigs this year
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 26
And a scorching .730 OPS in 70 PAs as a 28 yo in AAA
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
indeed!
I’ll wager the Cards end up with a better record than the Braves, this season.
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
I was looking at their 2-5 in their lineup and was like "Whoa, that's awesome."
Then I looked at ours and was like “Oh, that’s much better.”
I’m still jealous of their 2B, though.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
also, having Prado playing LF seems ridiculous
guy’s a competent 2B and 3B, but there’s no room with Uggla and Chipper there. Maybe he’s someone we should consider trading for…
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 1, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
JOEY BOMBS!!!!!!
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 26
Can't do it. Not possible.
JOEY BOMBS!!!!!!
by WizardofOz1982 on May 3, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
the best part about matt holliday, i think
is that IF we lose pujols, i am probably not really going to worry all that much about it. of course, having both of them for the next 5-6 years would be incredible, but its clear to me that holliday is also the kind of guy you can build a championship team around. and IF we lose pujols, i would look forward to seeing holliday taking over that role.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
look at where we are w/o apu being apu
it is critical, though, to having a formidable 3-4-5 hitters, and we would need to keep bman for a couple years and bring in someone to slot in at #3, unless clobby comes around to fill that slot
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
SO GLAD
we did not sign Jason Bay. Thank you, Mozeliak!
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)
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