St. Louis Cardinals 4 vs. San Francisco Giants 5: Extra-Weird-Innings
I don't think there's anything instructive to pull from the actual facts of this game—a devastating extra-innings error from Albert Pujols, an outstanding outing from Bryan Augenstein saved by a diving stop from fourth-baseman Allen Craig, et cetera. This is as solid a proof as can be generated as to the uselessness of a single-game sample of baseball for anything except enjoyment. On that note: There were, at least, some enjoyable innings to be had, here, on the way to the final score.
Credit where credit is due: I get why people might enjoy watching Ryan Theriot, now. He doesn't inspire confidence or awe on defense, and he's as visibly punchless as any non-pitcher I've ever seen, but that was a heroically gutsy at-bat in the ninth inning—for a guy who looks twitchy on defense and anxious running the bases he showed a startlingly flat affect in the course of working Brian Wilson to a full count and, finally, slipping a single by Miguel Tejada. So far it looks like his best-mental-shape-of-my-life admission that he'd been told to swing hard and often with the Chicago Cubs was legitimately a problem, one I'm happy to see the Cardinals attempting to rectify.
As for Ryan Franklin—yikes. I love the knuckleball, but throwing two in a row to Buster Posey was a stupendously poor decision. I can see getting one over while ahead in the count, but unless you're Tim Wakefield that's not a pitch to rely on in high-leverage situations. Whoever's call that was—stop making that call.
Franklin's not a great reliever, but in his time with the Cardinals he's been a good one; it's not his fault that he's been promoted beyond his level of competence, although most save situations (for teams with functioning bats) are perfect situations for him while some as-yet-unidentified stud reliever comes in in tie situations.
Fernando Salas isn't that as-yet-unidentified stud reliever—my guess is that he's Ryan Franklin, only younger and less likely to throw a 2-2 knuckleball—but Eduardo Sanchez might be. If the Cardinals can bear to move Miguel Batista into the swingman role he innovated with the 1927 Yankees I'd like to see them take a chance with Sanchez, who's more likely to make a positive difference in this bullpen than Bryan Augenstein.
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thanks, DanUp. so very true.
This is as solid a proof as can be generated as to the uselessness of a single-game sample of baseball for anything except enjoyment.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
anyway, so long folks. can't keep thinking about this one.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
I'm going to make a Riot Shersey. It'll be adequate if unassuming.
Also, I enjoyed the game. I’m not faulting anyone for having a bad, bad taste in their mouth after that one, but I don’t.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
You really like theriot, don't you?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 8, 2011 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
that's evilfrog and mysterui?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
?
not sure I understand
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
they really like theriot even more
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't even like Theriot, really
I was just willing to give him a chance before I started hating him
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you are commendable
I’m getting old, and negative. but spring begins anew.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
im with rui on this
everyone here is hard on him because we traded away boog so he can be our SS. That wasn’t his doing.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
I don't really like boog. But dislike theriot more. Just on a personal level.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Anyone former cubs first words upon becoming a cardinal
Are “sweet, I’m finally on the right side of this rivalry” is a-ok with me.
by lopey986 on Apr 9, 2011 9:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I kinda do.
I never liked him before (as he was a Cub and all). That said, I remember him in ‘08 pretty well (I had him on my fantasy team), and remembered articles about him trying to be more aggressive in ’09. When we signed him, I wondered if the approach thing was legit, and if he couldn’t be pretty solid again if he changed his approach back. Then, he talked about just that in ST, and so far it looks like he’s actually doing this. I really think he can be a solid player for us.
Besides that, I do try to like every Cardinal, and will give anyone a shot before disliking them. Finally, the hate for him (I get that it’s really about missing Boog, but it goes way beyond that often) kind of annoys me and I’m a bit against-the-grain personality-wise, so that has made me like him more.
All that said, he certainly could end up being a pretty bad player for us. I’ll just root a little extra hard for him unless/until that happens.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
boog?
he was always a plus by WAR
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
if he pitched....
he would have been one of the greatest sidearmers of all time, as well as would field most plays before they reached the other infielders. he’d still hit above the average pitcher.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
except Adam Wainwright
I am referencing his begging to pitch during extra innings, by the by.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh good
sometimes I add those little didactic notes, then waver over if they’re unnecessary. good to know.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sometimes in the middle of the night I have doubts
then I touch myself
oh. I just figured out how it all went wrong.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Wow.
Just…….. fucking…..wow.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 8, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
ssshhh, I'm having an epiphany here
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Is that what they're calling it now?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 8, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll file that one back.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 8, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He was.
But he is also WAY overvalued by VEB. He’s a pretty average player and a really fun personality. Not saying that Theriot is better than him, but I wouldn’t say that Theriot is better than most starting SS.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
yeah
he’s about equal to theriot, but with more upside (and even MORE entertaining to watch)
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if the upside is really there
It’s not like he’s actually young. He’s going to peak quite soon.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I hate to keep talking about the guy
because he’s not on my team (or even 2nd fave). but he’s born in 1982 and the riot is born in 1979, so if you want to go that route and peak vs downside, then let’s tumble buddy! or whatever
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
This has nothing to do with Theriot.
I acknowledge he’s not a good player. But Ryan isn’t really, either. Maybe more useful than Theriot, to this team, especially. But by what? One win? It’s silly to keep bringing him up.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
just defending the guy since I thought he was a commendable player
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but so was Ray Lankford when we traded him for Woody Williams
sometime you just got to let it go.
Trading Ryan Ludwick still seems more egregious to me, especially since we could have signed Westbrook as a FA for this year.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I will let it go in due time.
in due time, sir.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, especially when the rationale for trading him was that he was going to be too expensive in arbitration
And then you sign Berkman for $8 million. But hey, I actually think Berkman’s going to be a better player than Luddy this year, so I’m not really worried about it
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Tallet was actually pretty good
He got screwed on that third strike he threw to Torres that they called a ball. Not that it would have mattered any, it would have just delayed the inevitable one more inning. We ALWAYS loose these kind of games. But why did we walk Sanchez when Tallet was already ahead 0-1????
I don’t know none of this really even matters, the bottom line is Franklin is horrible and we need a closer. We are 4-3, even dispite a putrid offense if Franklin can get a frekin save.
by mick311 on Apr 8, 2011 9:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
that was the most enjoyible loss of the season.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
reminds me of the early season what, 20 Inning(?), loss to the Mets last year, only not quite as randomly awesome.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
As much as Franky should've thrown a different pitch,
why would Yadi call for it? Not once, but TWICE. Boggles my mind a bit.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 8, 2011 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
I'm with you. I don't give Yadi a free pass there. And the wild pitch in the 11th looked like something he usually gets to.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Ryan Franklin continually
ruins great games.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 8, 2011 9:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
he's more of a mop up guy
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit.....and HL sighting.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 8, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
an*
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 8, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i still think that this team is going to be fun to watch this year
as somebody else already pointed out. the top of the order is getting on at a pretty good clip so far. Once Albert gets going and Holliday comes back I think that its going to be a pretty potent offense. However, Franklin (I know its early) scares me somewhat. I sincerely hope that they dont have a season derailed by a bad closer. I want Boggs to be closer, but that is just me.
At least Joe Morgan isn't one of my team's Hall of Famers
i don't think it's unfair to be afraid of franklin just because it's early in the season
we’ve watched him closer for like three years now.
Have you ever been not afraid?
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
ditto
I was disappointed Franklin didn’t retire
by thetewk on Apr 8, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
this is the first and only rec you'll ever get
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Greg Anderson released from jail
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
I'm in a bit of a conundrum
I’m encouraged by DanUp’s characterization of Terry Oh (did not get to see the game, but I definitely trust danup). but my brother just got us tickets to white sox vs mariners, where we would get to sit by the visitor dugout (might have to rekindle my boog love)
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:31 PM EDT reply actions
except
I like the white sox more than the mariners. I’m confused.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
you're allowed to be a fan of Theriot
and still like boog.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
ok
I figured it out now. anyway, I got the ticket! will try to get boog autograph on whatever I can muster up.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe just a high five
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
sure
but I don’t think that time is much of an issue
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
not with boog anyway
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Why, oh why, do you think you have to choose between the two?
And you should track down that 9th inning at-bat.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
why?
I’m drunk I guess.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It was pretty epic.
The whole situation: down by 1, bases loaded, full-count. Multiple foul balls (10 pitches IIRC).
The players on the bench were really into it as well.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
well
I must admit, I’ve come to my senses a bit. the two (ryan and theriot) are nearly equal (it’s just that the boog has more upside)
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
the problem isn't theriot so much as the fact that this could have been a theriot/ryan/schumaker infield
I like Tyler Greene and Daniel Descalso, but none of those players is good enough to justify trading away infield depth.
yes
this is it!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sold on that.
The whole “best mental shape of his life” bit that DanUp mentioned above, if legit, could make Theriot a really, really solid lead-off man.
The numbers at this point are obviously not indicative of much, but his approach has been fairly ideal given his talent-level and what’s being asked of him.
We’ll see. I’ll stop beating this dead hourse.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
well
I guess that the upside is that the boog is starting (and he probably wouldn’t’ve on a tlr-centric team)
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the at-bat.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13579185
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I heartily admire his P/PA and his RBI single
take that VEB
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice. A couple of things though...
Did Wilson not look like he was his normal nastiness?
Also, if Wilson lets that beard grow anymore, he’s gonna get it caught up in his glove and yank it off during his delivery.
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I don't know what Wilson normally looks like,
but it was only his second game back from an oblique injury and in his first game he was shelled. So maybe he’s not totally back (and maybe that will end up being useful to us in the next couple days…).
by BTown Birds fan on Apr 8, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
no way he's available tomorrow either way
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Yeah, he threw a shitload of pitches today (thanks, Theriot!)
by BTown Birds fan on Apr 8, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
In that AB, he didn't look as good stuff-wise than he did last October.
/anecdotal, SSS, injured.
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But that beard...seriously.
He’s gonna have to cut a hole in it so he can throw through it soon.
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I wonder if it gets in the way of his swing.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like The Riot.
Not to be over looked:
Another poor start from Westbrook. Small samples and all that, but not encouraging so far.
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
was it that bad?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
8 hits, 4 BB, 2 HR in 5 2/3
Only 3 ER, but Boggs came in to get the last out with the bases juiced.
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
ah
it’s funny how stories are never told without the context
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It was uneven.
Good first two innings…then he got all lumpy.
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I'll chalk it up to a rusty start
(and maybe too easy of an offseason? partay!)
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
wat?
he was one out away from a QS. not very efficient, no, but he was one hell of a lot better this afternoon than he was on saturday.
will pay $30 at any point for access to an mlb.tv season long account
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 8, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
didn’t sound that bad to me
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
QS doesn't mean much to me. When you cough up a couple of HR and four free passes, you had a bad day.
Just because he was fortunate that nobody was on base for those homers, doesn’t mean his start was anywhere near quality.
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
Yea, I get that; QS isn't the worst measure in the world, but his peripherals still sucked.
He gave up 5 BBs in his first start, and 4 in his second. Cards still had a chance to win TODAY, but if he keeps going out there and putting that many runners on base, he’s going to get lit up.
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
I'll reserve the right to judge him
for a later date
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
No, judging. Just saying he needs to be better. Like I said, it's still just two games.
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
was saying
what TLR should have said about the offense heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
you meantt to say
he was one out Theriot error away from a QS
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can frank stop throwing the knuckle?
didnt he get in trouble when he used it too much last yr?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
thought it was new? dk
can frankie not be the closer? hope so?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i know he tried it last yr
and usually at really bad times
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
great setup man
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked how Al said that
Franklin does not walk batters
right after he walked a guy
"Defense is important to this team," second baseman Skip Schumaker said.
denial is a river in egypt
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I found that funny too
And then I noticed that Franklin only walked 10 guys all last year, that’s pretty nuts.
by lopey986 on Apr 9, 2011 9:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shelby Miller had a strong outing going 5 IP with 4 H, 1 UER and a BB punctuated by 9 K. He got the 5 other outs with 4 on the ground and 1 in the air.
http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/04/08/daily-farm-report-04072011/#more-6713
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if we go to the postseason
i want him on the roster, for leverage relief.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
not really.
but it’d be cool
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
considering the last pitching prospect we had on the same level as him
i agree
i don’t foresee the same outcome, but there are so many things that could happen
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i don't remember who gave me the TMG songs
but i liked them both. thanks
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
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the mountain goats
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
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they just played here the other night
my friend went
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, I remember seeing that name in a recent thread now, but it had slipped my mind
Never heard of ’em.
/get off my lawn!
by BTown Birds fan on Apr 8, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
it was me.
I’ve noticed you like pretty much exactly the same music that I do, so I figured you might. They have a large catalog and much of it is hit and miss, so it requires a little effort at first.
i've gotten the impression
i usually listen to the first few songs of all hail west texas every few months, then get bored and move on
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youtube is somewhat limiting
but I like these two also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRP6egIEABk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REW3f_LGQuQ
Colby rasmus is so good.
Can’t wait till it warms up a bit. He won’t get votes, but I’m thinking he’ll deserve to be in the MVP discussion at season end.
Also Sam Adams imperial witbier=good
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 8, 2011 10:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I dunno about MVP
but Allstar, yeah
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea. MVP may be a bit much
But a boy can dream
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 8, 2011 10:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he has some serious competition on his own team!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Who?
Theriot?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 8, 2011 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I will not dignify that with a response
/irony
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
assuming he can maintain a .520 OBP and play every day
he’s a lock for MVP…
Then again his RBI count will be low…
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 8, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Won't win then
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 8, 2011 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1.
i see colby getting mvp votes.
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by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He does look good so far, I'll give you that much.
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
it's good, but it's so unbalanced... really harsh alcohol notes.
shouldn’t be so strong. almost like a wheatwine instead of a wit.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
Wow
Lets not forget he had an 1.100 ops in April last year too before bombing in may, July and august.
Plus, what was up with not making that catch on the wall in the 12th. Somewhere Jim Edmonds sat shaking his head and staring at his foot while cursing the reds crackpot medical team.
by lopey986 on Apr 9, 2011 9:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Colby doesn't seem like the same kid he was last year.
May not happen to the same degree.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 9, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you
while he still has learning to do and experience to gain, there is a sense of swagger and confidence about him. He actually looks like he believes he belongs there. I didn’t see that last year.
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Just don't tell him.
We’ll never hear the end of it.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 8, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I've officially stepped into the year 2007
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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Apr 8, 2011 10:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ok...just saw a tiger take down a warthog.
And the guy narrating the show is literally all of 6 feet from the whole thing.
My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter
i've watched sanchez in springfield a few times......
the kid has an attitude that reeks of self-confidence. i don’t know that we’d have to worry about bringing him up too early, i think he could handle it if he got hit around a little in the early-going. bring him up, just throw him right into the closer’s role. i would venture to guess that, by season’s end, he’d be entrenched as our closer for 2012.
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
he has waffled on retirement a couple of times
when he first signed his current deal he said he planned to retire when it ended. Then he stated last offseason he planned to continue after this year.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I think your right. Sanchez is a better
Fit than anyone else we have and I’d like to see him get a chance sooner than later, although I think Tony will stick with Franklin for awhile, and possibly too long. I talked with Jeff Luhnow last summer and he told me at the time the club viewed Boggs as the closer of the future once Franklin was done.
by mick311 on Apr 8, 2011 10:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
how about a future where boggs
sets up for sanchez? i’d sure like to see a guy with boggs’ stuff be able to handle the 7th and 8th innings. in a perfect world, of course (one in which tlr has given the reins to oquendo).
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
So, I just got an LG Optimus V
What are the best android apps?
best twitter app?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
there's some great weather apps
no dingers allowed
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
if you have any plans to use it as a music player,
get cubed or (to the third power) you know the little 3 that’s up a little higher
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
cool thanks
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
also, ditch the default SMS app
and get handcent. not much of a difference, but it looks much less bland
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
have you rooted?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
not really
i used unrevoked which allows me to do some stuff, like wireless tether, but i can’t flash custom ROMs
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
Trevor rosenthal recorded 12 outs tonight
11 were via strikeout. The other was a groundout. He did walk 2 and hit two batters. Gave up 2 runs.
There is still room on the Rosen-train
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 8, 2011 10:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
that's awesome
this team’s top two needs in the minors are hitters and folk-heros who won’t be loaned out to the mexican league every year.
by DanUpBaby on Apr 8, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I saw that, and came straight here to see what you had to say about
/onboard
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
I CHOO CHOO CHOOSE YOU
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Apr 8, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Lets BEE Friends"
and there’s a picture of a bee
"Defense is important to this team," second baseman Skip Schumaker said.
I'm telling you
He’s my own personal Sidd fynch. Except real
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 8, 2011 11:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm telling you
He’s my own personal Sidd fynch. Except real
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 9, 2011 12:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
next game is 9pm tomorrow night
I will not be able to watch it. it is the giants championship ceremony.
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
so remember when the bases would be loaded for A--
hmm, no. at least it wasn’t 20 innings?
nope, still trolling. never mind.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
x

actually, i don’t know if you were or not. but i was. ;-)
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah.
there were no concessions left. not even in the all-inclusive areas. we had pretzels and water. and we liked it.
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
this one is over my head............haha
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
if it makes you feel any better, I just now got it
like supply drops from aerial support.
t-shirt cannons are just useless
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
listening to laser beams shooting upward
just like the cardinals chances of winning the division
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
how ridiculous was it
to watch Tony La Russa intentionally walk players so he could face Aaron Rowand, the guy he used to think so highly of he let him make the last out of the All-Star game with Albert waiting to hit
he checked the Like box?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Missed the game
and didn’t bother to read many posts, but I’m sure it came up somewhere that Theriot made another error with a perfectly capable SS stuck playing 2nd, which forced Westbrook to get up to almost 110 pitches thrown in his second start and kept him from getting through six innings. As far as credit where credit is due with Theriot at the plate, I’d take what he’s offering from second base. He’s killing us out there at SS though, whether TLR is ready to admit it yet or not.
*this comment made knowing only the outcome of the game and watching the bottom of the sixth and seventh of the replay.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
what got me, after that, was watching Freese make that tremendous play
and seeing that Theriot wasn’t fast enough to back him up.
then realizing that in normal teams, the left fielder does that.
then realizing if I brought that up on VEB, I would be shunned.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i googled "shunned", got this pic. i won't sleep tonight, now, neither will you. HELLO, NIGHTMARES!!

"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
i came by this handle
legitimately.
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a stronger stomach than that.
dudes blocking the road, of course they’re shunned. frickin traffic
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
my new craigslist roommate wore a dress the other night
my other roommate who is not that young, was disturbed. I called him Kurt Cobain.
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still stuck on your subject line.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah
relatively new (about 5 or 6 months). I’ve had many roomies (both male and female). but this dude wears a dress. he confused us all the other night. I think it is goofy or funny, my other roommate is not amused. but we still get to crank the amps up so what do I care.
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I've lived with a lot of peeps from craigslist
what of it?
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
or perhaps chitown is the murderer
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 8, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
is he also a maker of meat pies?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 8, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
hurry up and eat. guys.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Apr 8, 2011 11:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
or maybe chicago is not as dangerous as one would think
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
where's purplehaze
probably doing something cool
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it IS in your brain. How could that not be cool?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 8, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
we are here to converse
and hopefully enlighten each other
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Considerate it so.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 8, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
would like to live in st louis sometime
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
username changing is
a pain in the rump. better stay there.
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yep.
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yep.
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
idk why
i waited a year to post here. veb is el cucho mambro delicioso cuchacambre elefante.
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I read this as you calling your craigslists murder stats
a small sample size. I was disappointed to learn it was for generic craigstlist killings instead.
I'm cool with people
they’re cool with me
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
that's cold, brah.
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
nah
because I’m the best. better than all the rest.
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I do my best
I expect an attempt
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 9, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
my fiance's brother gets roommates that way
he used to live in Brooklyn and now in Chicago and has done it both places.
I don’t get it and could never do it. More power to ya if you can, i suppose.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
it's all about writing the right craigslist ad
and finding the right person. in this case I moved into someone’s place who was a lot younger than me, and I knew a friend who was looking for a place, and we both wanted to jam and record pretty loud. just turned out that the dude was even weirder than I am.
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 9, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
i didn't think that was possible.
just a hunch, he’s not much of a baseball fan, is he…..
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I've done it plenty of times
in Boston and NYC. It’s always worked out. You have to filter out the email responses (I answer like 1 out of 5) then definitely meet the people first. But other than that, makes renting a place or finding a place easy as pie.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
try "shun unicorn" instead.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
got a couple days?
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 9, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
You and gdm oughta get along fine then.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 9, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
probably shot dead by marauders
but that’s cool. had to happen eventually.
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
the bad news was I could only carry 200 lb back to the wagon
by DanUpBaby on Apr 8, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
did you die of dysentry?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 8, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
gosh, it sure is lucky that matt holliday is coming back someday!
It’s not like we will ever run short of pinch hitters in an extra inni. . . Wait.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Apr 8, 2011 11:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's not Tony La Russa's fault...
he just sits passively in his office and makes do with whatever John “Bossman” Mozeliak decides. La Russa is just the “manager” while Mozeliak is the “general manager.” The “general” part means Mo is TLR’s superior. Also, Mozeliak has stated that he makes all the decisions. Therefore, it is not Tony La Russa’s fault.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
sarcasm is sarcastic?
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 8, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
you want holliday be DL
and sit on butt when could be play sooner?
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
Yes.
This is two games now where we needed him to be on the DL.
And him coming back does what, make him miss three or four games games rather than be on the DL?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
who would we bring up?
players on the 40-man, but not 25-man roster:
zack cox
bryan anderson
tony cruz
mark hamilton
pete kozma
adron chambers
you really think having one of those guys taking lohse’s PH appearance tonight is worth more than having holliday for 5-6 extra games this season? i don’t
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
yep.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 9, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
There's no guarrantee that Holliday will/would make it back
and it would’ve given us an extra bat that we don’t have right now.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 9, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
(he's also PH for Descalso in his worst MLB PA in the world last weekend.)
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
so 2-4 mark hamilton PAs
are more valuable than ~20 matt holliday PAs? doubtful
even if we assume that holliday’s replacement is craig and hamilton’s is lohse
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
Matt Holliday has not batted yet.
And probably won’t this weekend. We may miss zero PAs from him.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
last i heard was he's likely to be cleared to at least pinch hit tomorrow
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
and today marks one week
so if he’s available to at least pinch hit tomorrow, we have 8 more games of matt holliday than we would have had
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
he had his appendectomy on friday
today is friday. one week is 7 days. 15 minus 7 is 8. i mean, the could retroactive it to friday, so if he bats tomorrow, i guess it’s more days of matt holliday, not 8 but whatevs
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
Nevermind that, but...
You honestly believe Cardinals management when it comes to injury time now? I am optimistic to Holliday’s return, but I’m still thinking Tuesday maybe.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
i think he could be out the full 15 days with no roster move and it not hurt much
holliday has played one game and tyler greene got his second AB of the season today in game 8. i just don’t think it matters much who the 25th man is, especially over a 15 game stretch. i think it matters more who the 2nd man is, even over a 3-8 game stretch.
and really, with the way the season has played out thus far, matt holliday probably represents the best player on the team until pujols turns it around
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
Apparently you did not see Descaslo tae an incredibly bay PA in the 9th over the weekends
and Lohse take a PA tonight. Thos eare two high leverage situations where have an actual good hitter would have been nice. But we didn’t/ Cause maybe Holiday might be back early!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Descalso had two truly embarrassing AB's
And we sure could have used another bat tonight.
I don’t know who is right in the abstract, but at this juncture, Holliday better get back early and play well for this move to work out.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like The Riot.
that's just it
holliday getting back “early” might not be a good thing.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
it has nothing to do with doctors
he hasn’t seen live pitching for a week now.
besides, just because he’s cleared to play doesn’t mean he’s 100% back to normal. thinking so is extremely naive.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I'll leave it to the judgement of the docs and management.
When they do put him in, it’ll be too early or it won’t. Either way, it’ll be decided with far more information than we get. It’s not about naivety, it’s about recognizing that they’ll make the best decision that they can, and that’ll be far more informed than my opinion.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like The Riot.
you're probably right
they’ve got a pretty good track record when it comes to knowing when a player is ready to come back.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Of course they don't.
And their decision will STILL be better informed than whatever our opinion is.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like The Riot.
so I'm just supposed to shut up and take what they give me as gospel?
since when?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
You're not "supposed" to do anything.
And I’m done with this.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like Riot.
I know
and i do see your point, which is the same as mine except different….an opinion.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Fair enough
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.
and really
if descalso isn’t capable of taking non-embarrassing plate appearances and hamilton is, maybe descalso shouldn’t be on the roster.
we need to get craig ABs anyway, so he can play 3B 1 out of every 3 games and play RF against lefties.
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
sure
it would have been nice to have him then. but i think we’re going to find ourselves in more high leverage situations in innings 1-9 all season. remember all those innings that theriot and rasmus got on base, pujols did nothing and then someone other than holliday came to the plate? those kind of situations are going to come up more often than the ones in the 10th inning where lohse PHs.
also, we could have mark hamilton without DLing holliday. greene took his second AB today! just send him down because we’re basically only using 23 as is right now
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
I heard he was cleared to pinch hit today, then he wasn't.
I mean, it’s a serious feat of strength if he can play tomorrow, but it’s also fucking stupid. He had a fucking organ removed! It’s a long season! Take your time!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
last I heard TLR said he will not appear during SF series
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
he might not
but i think we stand more to gain by having holliday back sooner than we stand to lose by having 24 men and having a lost PA once every 2 or 3 games
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
At what point does having 24 men become a disadvatange, though?
I’m betting we reach the ten game mark, whih is my limit for any player.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
i think it becomes a disadvantage, on average,
around inning number 10. which happens, on average, (WAG) one every 5-10 games.
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
mark hamilton would be a nice power bat off the bench
way better than the stavinator
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 9, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
"better than nick stavinoha" isn't very convincing
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
"better than kyle lohse" work for you?
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
in one plate appearance?
no
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
The whole thing is fucking ridiculously stupid.
And we wonder how we are where we are.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 9, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Well that was crazy ass game
I got home from work and grocery shopping to catch it in the 11th. A lot of yelling at my tv then happened. New neighbors probably think I’m crazy.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Apr 8, 2011 11:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
you're in stl, aren't you?
they probably were doing the same thing
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so i woke up & saw franky trending on twitter & knew it was bad
so i took some meds & went back to bed. i feel better now, but i’m not surprised they ended up losing the game. i’m not surprised to know theroit helped keep the misery going. yeah, great job getting a hit in the 9th, but you suck at SS & you’re not what we were promised you are. i want him gone. i’m sick of hearing about him & Skippy. i’m sick of Franky. i’m sick of the pathetic & very offensive offense. i’m sick of Albert. i’m sick of Yadda’s stupid ink. i’m sick of TLR. i’m sick of Fat Elvis. i’m sick, sick, sick. i’m sick & tired of being sick & tried. ugh
Balls
You're losing it.
This is not Viva El Cards Talk.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I think its the drugs talking
I hope
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm sick and tired of being a nobody
but most of all, I’m sick and tired of having nobody.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Thank god the post-dispatch keeps us up to date on the LA Lakers broadcasting news!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I really liked him a lot...
He and Mike Shannon got together great. Just a blast to listen to them together.
at least Colby is off to an awesome start!
at least they came back with some very tough at bats!
I wish the at bats were consistently that tough!
Odds that tomorrow Jaime Garcia pitches a 9inning shutout and Cardinals don’t win = 5-1
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 9, 2011 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
Anecdotally, I think we've been having great at-bats this season
For once, patience hasn’t been the issue; we’ve had lots of men on base, but that next hit just hasn’t come.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Sabermetrically speaking, this bodes well, correct?
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like The Riot.
Yeah I would think so.
I don’t see us having this many guys on base and this few guys actually scoring
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I dunno
What getting on base in the most important thing, the Cardinals haven’t had much power. It’s really hard to score runs when you just hit singles and get walks.
Whiteyball (offensively at least) was basically OBP+Speed. But this team is almost entirely lacking in speed.
What I'm saying is that the power will come
I’d rather see us take a lot of walks and not get unlucky with hits at the beginning of the season than get a bunch of hits with terrible plate discipline
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I'm with this
we’ve got Albert, Holliday, Colby and Lance Berkman. The power will definitely appear.
And get unlucky
Not “not get unlucky”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Can I actually get a recap of the crazy shit that happened in OT?
I had to leave right before the crazy Theriot AB in the 9th
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replay is on FSMW right now
about to be over though.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Two things
Tony does brilliant piece of managing, moving Craig to the infield to give them 5 infielders with a guy on 3rd base and no one out. And it works.
And then he does something not so brilliant, leaving Tallet in to pitch to several right handers…instead of bringing in Batista
before that
cards were down to last out in 9th, loaded bases, and theriot had an eleventy billion pitch ab where he singled in 2 runs. Then Franky came in, got the first two out easily, gave up a single to Rowand, bounced a knuckler to move him to second, gave up a walk and then another hit to tie it up.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Hear goes:
Theriot did his little heroics, Colby walked, and Pujols got out.
Franklin blew the save, which somehow included multiple knuckleballs and wild pitch. Everything happened with 2 out. Capped with a Sandoval hit.
Top of the 11th, Yadi walked. Descalso sac-bunted, and the throw was bad, so 1st and 2nd nobody out. TLR has Jay try to sac as well, which fails. Yadi out at third. Theriot flew out, Rasmus SO.
In the bottom of the 11th, still tied, Augenstein, who was pitching well, allowed a lead-off double to Torres. He got to third on a wild-pitch, which I think should have been ruled a passed ball. So, man on 3rd and nobody out. TLR puts Craig at third, giving us 5 IF. Freddy Sanchez SO, then Rowand hit a screamer to Craig on the line. He threw to Yadi, back to Descalso, and they tagged out Torres. Hence my new sig. Amazing play. TWO IBB, then DeRosa SO, ending inning.
Bottom 12, Tallet allowed a single with one out. There was a grounder back to Tallet, who made a nice play, but Albert missed the throw, which lead to 2nd and 3rd. Another out in there somewhere. Maybe before the error play. IBB. Rowand hit it deep, but high into the left center gap. Colby maybe shoulda had it, but didn’t.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like The Riot.
Much obliged, sir
That’s perfect, thanks
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The top of the 9th through the 11th inning was absolutely phenomenal from a fan-of-the-game standpoint.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like The Riot.
using 5 IFs for 2/3 of an inning,
and it working just blew me away. couldn’t believe augenstein got out of it. he might be a hell of a waiver claim.
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hell of a play by craig
http://mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13580501
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I should also add that the ump was wearing red.
There were a number of close calls on balls and strikes that went our way, both when hitting and pitching.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like The Riot.
yes, as bad as the end was (and lots of the bits in between), my internal sense of fairness says it's better we lost.
my internal sense of cardinals fandom just beat the shit out of my internal sense of fairness, though.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Apr 9, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't get me wrong. The Ump was very, very right in being mistaken.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like The Riot.
the 2nd out was a shoulda been 3-6-3 DP to end the inning in the 12th
maybe even a boog would’ve due to arm strength differences, it was that close at first. They never showed an x-mo replay, but I put it on 1/15th speed and it was about as close to a virtual tie as possible.
And the runners were at 1st and 3rd following Albert’s error. They let the runner take 2nd on the first pitch to sanchez.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I remembered that being in the uneventful 10th, but you're right, it was the 12th.
I think Boog probably woulda. The throw from Theriot was good, but it wasn’t a laser like Boog coulda.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like The Riot.
you can like Theriot and all, I don't even hate him
but for the love of GOB, can you change the sig so I don’t have to read The Riot anymore? ok thanks goodbye
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
I'd probably like Theriot a lot better if it wasn't for that nickname.
I wonder how he got that nickname?
Was he hilarious in the clubhouse (oh, that Ryan, he is a riot…no,no, THE RIOT)? Was he just terribly destructive in the clubhouse (oh, that Ryan, he just won’t stop tearing shit up in here. It’s like a riot broke loose in here….no,no,no…it’s like THE RIOT broke loose in here)?
No, it’s because some fans and fanbases just are lazy in coming up with decent nicknames.
/end rant
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
I think it's totally a lazy nickname that happens to work. It's a funny nickname, IMO.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
Also, I like Riot.
we can't be blamed for the whole J-Rod thing
since he had it on his shoes the moment he arrived.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
the media didn't give him that name
he did.
we just went with it. IMO, we went with it more as a joke like…..hey, he want’s to be called J-Rod. okay, whatever….he’ J-Rod.
knowing full well the whole time he was only going to be semi-successful for a short period of time. but he had some sort of confidence thing going so we went with it.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
you are too easygoing
i need more arguments in my debates
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
You should have engaged me on the Vernon Wells trade!
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.
also
to anyone in the last several months who has complained about theriot being the starting SS, i present to you miguel tejada
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who made some decent plays.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you kidding me?
he’s 37-years-old and he’s a goddamn statue
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talkin' bout defense
though i don’t expect him to be very good on offense this year, either
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
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well, he did something today our offense can't do.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
yeah, one game. rock and roll
i mean over the entire season
(i don’t know why i keep closing this fangraph’s tab…)
he’s projected for .308 and .317 wOBA by marcel and ZiPS respectively
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no, I am not kidding you.
up the middle is never an easy play. I did watch the non-extra innings besides that.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that was an extremely slow bouncer
and reasonable SS would have had enough time to get to stop, reposition and throw
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oh, and theriot does?
this is not a good game with which to scrounge up examples. particularly if you want people to shut up about theriot’s defense.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
theriot does
he doesn’t get to a whole lot. but he gets to that
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aren't tejada and theriot not that much different?
dingers
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 9, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
now that i look
the numbers are all over the place, so maybe he’s been average the last couple of season. he’s like juan uribe. it’s not possible that he’s anything other than terrible at SS
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that is a terribly structured post
but he’s like juan uribe…
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we need a flag for them
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this is kind of sad
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it is sad
i have a friend who used to work with the cardinals PR department. she said they wanted to go all out on all star weekend. all stan the man, all the time. i guess, sort of like what boston did with ted williams. but stan has had to back out of things last minute because of his health in the past, so management decided to not commit as much time to stan as they’d have liked.
i know a lot of cardinal fans were really upset about it, but the way my friend tells it, cardinal managent thinks of stan as family. nobody was more upset they couldn’t honor stan nationally
well at least that makes me feel a bit better about that situation
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdVfJwN0-TQ
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
i am absurdly caffeinated so now i am drinking beer to mellow myself out.
i need to get some real drugs.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
US! V THEM! OVER AND OVER AGAIN
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
reply fail. that goes to the post above.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
not a good night for our young Tom Wilhelmson
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