St. Louis Cardinals closers and highly leveraged memory
by DanUpBaby on Apr 28, 2011 6:00 AM EDT
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I think this might be why closers feel so much more important than they are—what you remember from a game is just as situational as leverage index. Lance Berkman's goofy route to Angel Sanchez's double in the ninth inning wouldn't mean anything in a 6-0 game, but in a 6-5 game it reminds us about the original plan to replace him defensively whenever possible. Here are the sloppy plays and situations from tonight's Cardinals-Astros game that we can forget forever, now that Eduardo Sanchez has successfully retired three batters without giving up three runs:
1. Ryan Franklin is in serious trouble. I led with this one because it's the last one we'll forget. Tony La Russa's quick hook brings us to the next step in the Ryan Franklin Situation; he's become the last pitcher out of the bullpen, which was the right first step, but what do you do with the last pitcher out of the bullpen when you can't trust him to get seventh-inning outs in a 6-0 game?
The obvious answer is to DFA him, and it's something I've thought about, even after memories of Jim Edmonds the Obviously Finished Padre came to mind. A lot of Franklin's value as a reliever has been tied up in ERAs that weren't in keeping with his peripherals in the first place, and I don't see him burning John Mozeliak with an outstanding second-half even if he does right the ship somewhere else.
But until Brian Tallet is wedged back into the bullpen I think keeping Franklin around is the right move. The Cardinals don't have an obviously superior near-term option in Memphis, and the medium-term opportunity they'd be forgoing isn't learning what Eduardo Sanchez can do in the Majors anymore; it's learning what P.J. Walters could do as a reliever.
2. Nick Punto should never, ever bat leadoff. I'll give this much to La Russa: if you're going to put a stunningly bad hitter in the leadoff spot, Nick Punto is maybe the best choice. Over the last two years he's hit .232/.328/.291, for an OPS+ of 68. Over 2009 and 2010, two players finished with a lower OPS in as many plate appearances as Punto, and they're both familiar: Cesar Izturis (.242/.284/.295) and Gerald Laird (.218/.289/.313.)
The Cardinals have had a lot of rough infield situations over the last several years, and most of them have been made worse by La Russa's inability to manage his extremely flawed parts in a way that minimized their exposure. Skip Schumaker's strengths and weaknesses are so obvious that his Strat-O-Matic card will burn your hand if you try to play it against a left-handed pitcher. He's a poor defensive infielder who can't hit southpaws, the ultimate Earl Weaver chess piece, so naturally he's not often replaced in the late innings and is indifferently platooned.
Nick Punto is a brilliant utility infielder who can't hit; his primary offensive function is to be much more likely than the average terrible hitter to clear the pitcher's spot with a nine-pitch walk. Combined with Skip Schumaker and company, he could produce some kind of two-WAR second base chimera. Instead, he's leading off, because middle infielders lead off.
3. Trever Miller's allowed six left-handed baserunners already. That was his third walk against them, when he walked just nine all last year. Miller's a true LOOGY, so if he's not vaporizing left-handers he's not very useful. But when you reach the specialists you're dealing with truly microscopic sample sizes, so I'm glad the bullpen didn't collapse quite enough to require a full bullpen-meltdown audit.
Of course, Sanchez's just-barely save also gives us a chance to enjoy some things we wouldn't otherwise have enjoyed.
1. Kyle Lohse! Lohse's control has been superb this season—his walk rate is still flirting with one per nine innings, five starts into his season—but that wouldn't be so exciting if his stuff weren't also compelling.
Worrying rotation-watchers: He is now 17 innings away from Brad Penny's 2010 season.
2. Tyler Greene! We've waited two years now for Tyler Greene to take advantage of the skimpy in-season opportunities he tends to get, and this is him doing it. It's difficult to be more productive across 21 at-bats and 11 games—he's got seven hits, a double, a home run, and five stolen bases in as many chances. He's even been hit by two pitches, while he's at it.
The Cardinals have to find a way to get Greene more at-bats; when the players ahead of him are Skip Schumaker, Ryan Theriot, Nick Punto, and Daniel Descalso this shouldn't be so difficult. He's fast and a middle infielder—maybe he could lead off!
3. Matt Holliday! Notorious Slow Starter Matt Holliday is now hitting .429/.538/.683.
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What's wrong wih Albert
We’re now almost into May and although he has hit a few dingers, he hasn’ really been a factor. I can live with a bullpen slump, but the team needs Albert to light it up for a two to three week run.
Just win
the start to this season is looking similar to the start of 2007.
if we’re heading towards a .997 OPS and a 6 WAR season, I think the Cardinals will be alright. Although, I do wonder if the (seemingly?) lowered walk-rate is going to be a season-long trend.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
a few?
He is second in the league with 7 (on pace for 47)
7th in the in the RBI race at 18.
I realize the average is sitting at .250 right now, but two weeks ago it was .136.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
Right
we should have DFA’d him two weeks ago. TLR and his blindspots for players never stops costing us games. If only we could trade him for, say, Aaron Rowand. That’s the guy I’d rather have batting in a critical situation.
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by azruavatar on Apr 28, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
don't give tony any ideas
I think he will agree with you on that last point.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
Two weeks ago he was hitting what Carlos Pena is hitting now.
So. At least we don’t have Carlos Pena.
"I got to get Dr. Freeze off my twig right now."-Nyjer Morgan
by flipthebird15 on Apr 28, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I know average doesn't really mean everything (or much of anything)
but in looking at his splits, I noticed his batting average over the last 162 games played is .299.
Granted his ops is .971 but it’s still 75 points below his career number.
Anyway, not sure if any of this is any reason for concern (it probably isn’t) but over the last 162 games, his batting average is off his career average by 31 points and his ops is off by 75 points.
I don’t think the sky is falling outside, but it’s really too cloudy for me to get a good reading on it.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
sss
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
same thing happened last season
although he’s actually doing better so far this season than last early on
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder
what is wrong with Pujols also. I hope i have to eat these words, but I think that what we have witnessed beginning about the middle of last year is a slow demise in his hitting abilities. I look for Holliday to be a more effective hitter going foward. I don’t think Pujols will age well. He’s had a hell of a ten year run though.
I don't see why Holliday would age better than Pujols, though
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
less injuries
and he’s a big ol’ Oklahoma Boy! (or wherever he’s from)
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
it's easy to get confused, as he does span multiple states.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Legoland
I am the sworn hater of everything Chicago.
by Fred Stochl on Apr 28, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Even if you could predict that Holliday, going forward, would be more injury-free than Pujols
That still doesn’t tell me he’s going to be a more effective hitter going forward. Holliday’s best two hitting seasons had a wRC+ of 150 and 149. In 2002, Albert’s worst hitting year, his wRC+ was 148.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Apr 28, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he's considerably younger
assuming pujols is actually 35.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Not you too?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
I was about to break the no politics rule
But I retrained myself
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I meant restrained
But eh it works
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so there was no retraining?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
pujols' age is a political issue?
and btw, i was just stirring the pot. IDGAF about his age.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Well, in order to get his age, you need a certain document, which is relevant at this point in time...
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by mysterui on Apr 28, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ah. i see the connection.
well someone page trump. he’s got the power.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
He's very proud of himself!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
He should be
it takes some real fortitude to walk around with that ridiculous hair.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
he's got his sons doing it, too.
his daughter is somehow gorgeous. he has one son who is even worse looking than he is.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
donald jr?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
how is that not green?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 28, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
you, sir, seem to be biased.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
but really, i also get the feeling that holliday will age better and i have no idea why i think that.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I hope you're right.
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by spants on Apr 28, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think they will age equally
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
huh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Tyler Greene's season so far is yet another example of why small sample sizes are fun
You don’t often see a player with a .391 OBP and a BB% of 0.0
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
He's doing an impression of Colby circa June 2009.
.333 OBP with 0 walks. Granted that was in 85 PAs.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 28, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Some fun Kyle Lohse facts to reflect on
National Leagues WAR-ingest pitcher with 1.5 WAR
Which places him 3rd overall in total NL WAR
2nd in ERA and ERA+ (both behind Josh Johnson)
Tied for first in IP with Clayton Kershaw, despite having started one game less than Kershaw
Tied for most defensive assists at pitcher
Tied for most Wins, Complete Games and Shut outs
Has now been worth -2.0 wins over the life of his extension
you're
13 pitches per inning (over 38.1 innings) to boot.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
also, been worth .2 wins more than
AJ Burnett’s 2010 (in 186+ innings).
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
he already has 1.5 WAR?!
keep up the pace and we’ve found our waino replacement…
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
just wait until next year
Waino replacement + Waino original
"Defense is important to this team," second baseman Skip Schumaker said.
...
Has now been worth -2.0 wins over the life of his extension
good god.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
b-ref war
he’s like 3 or 4 in fip war.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 28, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
So I saw in the overflow thread, you guys were posting Bieber pics
What about Beanber?: (Sorry mobile users)
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 28, 2011 8:46 AM EDT reply actions
Poor Rowan
Sigh
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.947 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 28, 2011 8:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
duuuude, this monstrosity needs shrunk
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
apparently not sorry enough
free programs online reduce picture sizes. for free.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you can also make pictures smaller when you embed them.
i’ll dig up the code somewhere….
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Apr 28, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
courtesy of beyondtheboxscore
img src=“imagesource” height=“Ypx” width=“Xpx”
wrap it all with <> and change the Y and X to your desired pixel dimensions
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Apr 28, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
this does not, btw, change the filesize of the picture, just the size of its display.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yup, and you can resize for display easier by setting height or width or both to a percent
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
So if you opened the picture in a new tab or something, it'd be the original size?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
If you did right-click View Image it would, yeah.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on Apr 28, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i wish i had never seen that.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Then don't go through my posts in yesterday's game thread
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thanks for the warning
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
yeah, what the hell kinda drugs were you on last night?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
is that thom yorke
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Apr 28, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
No need to worry
until Lohse hits a grand slam.
And I think we’re safe from that. He can’t even make contact on a bunt attempt.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
he's got 3 hits and 5 sac outs on 15 ab's
for a pitcher, that’s not really that bad. especially when it comes with the command he’s had lately
he’s no k-mac, but still, compared to the rest of our starting rotation, he’s doing pretty well
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
Well then....
his demise is just around the corner.
We’ll miss you Lohse!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Does Tallet replace Franklin or Miller?
I’d already written Franklin off before last night, but now Trever worries me.
Kudos to Greene T. for making the most of limited PT.
Still think my sig is the best lineup we can field.
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Greene 6, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Freese 5, Molina 2, pitcher, The Riot 4
Umm, no
(on the lineup).
Greene will not get on base enough to bat in the top 2 in the order. I don’t mind his speed and SB ability in the 8/9 spot, though.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 28, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
i think it's been covered before
but tallet doesn’t yet show much of a split advantage against lefites. he’s the same no matter who’s batting. 4.45 xFIP vs lefties vs a 5.10 xFIP vs righties. that’s not to say he could develop into a lefty specialist, but as tony says, the majors aren’t the place to learn a position.
i guess that does show a bit of a split,
but those are not the numbers i’d want out of a lefty specialist
The Memphis
pitching staff sports quite a few good performances this year, albeit all SSS. Dickson, Lynn, Ottavino, Rundles, Rauschenberger, P.J., and Reifer. However, only PJ and Reifer are on the 40 man. Whether they represent an improvement over Franklin, Miller, Augenstein, or Tallet can be discussed. One question, where can we find out how many options a player has left? I know that this is one of the factors that may lead to Salas or Sanchez being sent down, despite their performance to date. Finally, even before Tyler started hitting more, it seems to me that Descalso was always destined to be sent back down, despite Tuesday’’s outing, because basically right from the time of Punto’s acquisition, he became redundant, being a left handed hitter. So, hopefully that happens, rather than Tyler being sent down.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Apr 28, 2011 8:56 AM EDT reply actions
pretty sure Reifer is out for a while too.
not sure PJ would be THAT much better than alternatives.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Apr 28, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
But I'd rather see PJ give up runs and get some more experience
than see a couple of near 40 year old washed up “Vets” such as Frankie and Batista get even more washed up
I am the sworn hater of everything Chicago.
by Fred Stochl on Apr 28, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
so Lohse pitched sick yesterday
sounds like he might have not even started…
i’m impressed even though i knew (assumed, hoped, whatever) he’d dominate 2011
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
Lohse's 2011
screams contract phenomenon to me.
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by azruavatar on Apr 28, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it screams finally healthy to me.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
by Tackle Box on Apr 28, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He wasn't ever this good when he was healthy
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His BABIP is 100 points below is career average and LOB% is 10% higher than his career average
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I'm not saying he's this good
i’m just saying he’s not all of a sudden better than he was the last two years because he’s motivated by his contract situation.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
or maybe he just bored with being the worst player in the league?
you're
by Aranathor on Apr 28, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm tellin' y'all
DL = extra luggaging time.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
aaron miles still players for the dodgers
Lohse wasn’t even the worse player on his team last year.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
he was easily the worst on the team by bWAR at -2.8
worst pos. player was Stav Infection at -0.5 and the 2nd worst pitcher was the Hawk at -1.0
you're
Well that's because the others didn't get much playing time because they're so bad...
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it's easily fixed anyway
Fan Graphs to the rescue!
0.7 WAR!
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
true
but Lohse was pretty damn bad in 2010, he was un-worth almost -3.0 wins in 92 innings. that has to be an achievement.
you're
he was worth .7 WAR in 2010 over only 92 innings!
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
tRA > FIP
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
W-L FTW!!!!
oh, wait…
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Apr 28, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
W>L
:D
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
by Evilfrog on Apr 28, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
W=/=L?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
W+L>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>T
F’in footballs and 19th century hockey
"Defense is important to this team," second baseman Skip Schumaker said.
So if Lohse manages 3.0 WAR this year...
Doesn’t that pretty much make up the Wagonmaker deficit?
Or am I wrong about this?
by mattisnotfrench on Apr 28, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It would not
Because Lohse wasn’t projected for a -3.0 WAR year. I think he was about replacement, actually, which makes up for half of the Wainwright deficit
If McClellan/Garcia keep surpassing expectations, then it’s very feasible that we could make up the entire deficit
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Thanks for clarifying.
Puma putting up a big year would also go a long ways.
by mattisnotfrench on Apr 28, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
six man rotation?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
hey we still need a closer
Waino could just pitch the 8 & 9
"Defense is important to this team," second baseman Skip Schumaker said.
If it's good enough for Springfield and Quad Cities...
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Random note
I saw someone wearing a Nick Stavinoha T-Shirt Jersey yesterday. I was shocked.
Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?
I'll go with - lost a bet.
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on Apr 28, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
how much would you pay for a Stavinoha shirt?
Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?
wat
2008
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Show me when he was ever a ~3.4 xFIP pitcher
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I am not going to bother seriously evaluating stats based on a few starts
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
So there was nothing wrong with my statement?
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Well Chitown is technically right
The smaller the sample size the more you have to regress to get a measure of performance.
So Lohse putting up a 3.4 xFIP in 30 innings means he probably pitched about as well as when he put up a 4.00 FIP in 200 innings.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Apr 28, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
he has definitely looked impressive so far!
my only point is that it’s not completely out of the blue. he was the ace of the staff in 2008
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
rec
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
can't wait
for him to come back and call fourstick by the name fourskin again.
that was golden.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
i think his most recent ban
was a permaban
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I still don't get why he gets banned
he just added extra flavor, of the nutty variety
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
probably more of an annoyance than anything else.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I found it entertaining, anyway
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
reading his stuff is a true adventure in and of itself.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
sort of like watching the twilight zone or something
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll bet that was interesting.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
matt holliday is on pace for 17.3 WAR
discuss.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 28, 2011 9:41 AM EDT reply actions
appendectomies for everyone!
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
by Evilfrog on Apr 28, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
appendectomies are the new tommy johns
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
by Tackle Box on Apr 28, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not working for adam dunn
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
It's common knowledge that for an appendectomy to be effective, you have to first love America
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
by Tackle Box on Apr 28, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
So this is Spants's problem?
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
by hazel on Apr 28, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I thought it was velociraptor
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
all velociraptors hate America
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Apr 28, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But how does it know it's in America?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it's a...
clever girl…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Apr 28, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
It knows because it's a clever girl?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It's sort of a thing
http://shirtshovel.com/products/movies/jurassicpark/clevergirl-434.jpg
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
heh
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I was under the impression that even though she had the thing removed
it wasn’t an appendix issue.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
The appendix was a red herring
A diversion for an escape attempt.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
It was an appendix issue.
But one possibly brought on so early because of velociraptor pregnancy.
The pathology indicated normal tissue. The surgeon and OB said screw the pathology. You felt better after it came out. (And the surgeon also said that if it’s very, very early then slight cellular changes could be missed during testing.)
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
whatever
the real question is, do you love America?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
really,
my theory depends on it.
Love America + Appendectomy = Improved performance or overall awesomeness
but I guess I could alter it….
Hate America + Appendectomy = Can’t hit major league hitting
And in this case, I’d feel confident that spants doesn’t “hate” America and probably can’t hit a 95 mph fastball let along a 12 – 6 curve ball.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
If it's only related to major league hitting skills,
then sadly I am disqualified.
Unless…
Maybe after the baby shows up I can hit the batting cages and find out for sure.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
That's incredible, especially given time mised for an appendectomy.
It is also the equivalent of two Albert Pujols 2009 seasons.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
in fairness, i'm adjusting for the missed games.
but it’s still freaking impressive.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 28, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
MVP
what? too soon?
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Apr 28, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
way to soon
but NL player of the month…
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
How can you not give that to Eithier?
Or Castro?
/sarcasm
I am the sworn hater of everything Chicago.
by Fred Stochl on Apr 28, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
well, ethier does have a 24 game hitting streak going
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
The Sarcasm was for Castro
He wasn’t even the best Castro this month…
I am the sworn hater of everything Chicago.
by Fred Stochl on Apr 28, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
because i'm bias
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
besides
Holliday’s OPS+ is 50 points higher than Eithiers.
Then again, Andre does get a little bit of extra credit for the hitting streak, playing more games. But he had the advantages of facing Frankling.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
Wait, his OPS is 50 points higher or OPS+?
That’s a huge difference
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
OPS+
Holliday;s OPS is .201 higher than Eithiers
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
Wow
Stud
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 28, 2011 2:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you steal my sunshine
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I was fryin' on the bench slide in the park across the street
L-A-T-E-R that week.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
mmmm....
big fat slurpy treats
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Apr 28, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If Matt Holliday posts a 17.3 WAR season,
is he a first ballot HOFer or do we induct him over the all star break in the first ever zeroth ballot hall of fame election?
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
it's pretty common in science
especially us academic geologists.
"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill
i feel like without the internet
you wouldn’t know you could pluralize ‘academic geologists’ with any certainty.
I'm pretty sure it's a country in Warcraft.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
in case anyone was wondering....
B-R single season all-time position player WAR list. Best is Ruth, 1923, 14.7 (!!!).
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
love how tlr calls Bourgeois "bor-joes" in the postgame interview
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
if TLR wasn't the manager
we could be watching a daily lineup of:
Greene SS
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Berkman RF
Freese 3B
Molina C
Theriot/Descalso Platoon 2B
Pitcher
Bench:
Punto MI super sub
2B platoon mate
Jay OF
Skip 2B/OF (replace when Craig comes back)
Laird C
Bullpen:
Boggs
Sanchez
Salas
Motte
Miller
Tallet / Valdes
Franklin/Bautista—i don’t care, just pick ONE
Unfortunately, I’m sure Descalso or Greene go down when Craig is healthy, both Franklin and Bautista survive Tallet’s activation and only one of Sanchez / Salas stay north as Augenstein is the one who made it out of ST that doesn’t survive the bullpen developments of the past weeks.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
craig is better than both descalso and greene.
and let’s face it, descalso probably deserves to be sent down.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 28, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed,
just wished Skip was the one sent out for Milkman.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Apr 28, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
okay, thank you
I was trying to figure out how descalso going down for Craig would be a bad thing.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
yeah but there's no where for craig to play
unless lance freakin berkman needs a day off
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I say we drop Batista and Franklin,
and we bring up Valdes and Tallet when possible. Tallet is as effective against righties as Franklin and Batista and he’s good against lefties- he can be our long man. Valdes eliminates lefties and sucks against righties.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
that would be so freakin amazing I'd do a cartwheel
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Goold gives a succinct yet full description of the bullpen last night:
The Cardinals used four relievers to get the final six out of the game. Those four relievers allowed five runs and seven hits.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Argh, I forgot a subject line.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Figured out why Batista is on the team!
“Finally I got the job done,” Sanchez said through translator and teammate Miguel Batista.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Apr 28, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I know you listened to Shannon last night..
was it me or was he calling Sanchez “Elguardo” the entire time. Shocking, if true, I know.
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
I could see that. His Spanglish has never been muy bueno and he's been extra slurry the last two nights.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I think he finally met his match in Charlie Sheen.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I only was able to listen to a bit of the radio broadcast last night.
Whereas Shannon seemed grumpy Tuesday night, he seemed to be in a great mood last night.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Bingo
http://www.dictionarist.com/guardo
[guardar] v. guard, preserve, watch over; keep; protect
All hail El Guardo, protector of leads!
Beat me to it
El “guardo” would be a great nickname for him. “I save”.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I mean...
It kinda/sorta but not really but who cares means “I save”.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Apr 28, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
its perfect for a blog named viva el birdos
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Apr 28, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
it's only a note.
it has to be road-tested.
but if it proves worthy, this is where to find the thread.
which reminds me, I should probably find Do a Thing before there’s no hope in searching.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
on another note, I sure am lucky I didn't name the glossary
the appendix
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Plus,
it sounds kind of like “El Guapo”
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Apr 28, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Would this make Franky El Guano?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
we shouldnt have to collapse it
just have it seared into our memory.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
by tgreenfield on Apr 28, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
ARGGGH! Is anyone listening to the ITD Morning After on 590?
I should stop…they bring on Rosenthal once a week in addition to Jeff Passen…should be a sign…
Passen’s suggestion is to dump Miller because his his contract isn’t that bad and Pujols is just “average.” Seriousssssllly?
i am listening to that as well.
passen also railed against the brendan ryan trade and said theriot is inadequate at short stop. so he has some things going for him.
his reasoning was that you have to have an above average shortstop
on a sinker heavy rotation team. i agree with that. everything else he said was stupid.
so the only resonable argument he made was the obvious one?
no wonder i don’t listen to this crap
not even i would call theriot inadequate at short
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
what about in the....
nevermind
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
What the hell is going on
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
wait....he said pujols was "average"
as in “he’s an average baseball player?”
WTF
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.947 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 28, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Passan in all his asshattiness.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
They had 1985, what more do they want?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
As big as Greeney's dinger was...
…I think he made far moore of an impression with TLR & staff when he legged out that infield single that should have been a rgb. Grit, hustle, and speed are what’s going to keep him on this club, for better or worse, and if he can do what Punto can do, only with moar dingers, then he makes himself very valuable.
:=8)
Griebenschmaltz!
Wow, think of it Moo
a bench “grit” guy that actually has a little talent?! Armageddon is nigh!!!
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
(seeing ted williams on the list...)
think anyone will ever hit .400 again?
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 28, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
agree with this
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
83 RsBI? Weak, Joe Jackson.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
what the hell is that supposed to be?
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Apr 28, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, rookie seasons
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Apr 28, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
what the hell?
is that telling me Tommie Agee was the best defensive player of all-time?
/slightly hyperbolic
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Apr 28, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, today's "MLB.TV FREE GAME OF THE DAY" is the Cards game!
just a heads up
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
Take your day games and shove em.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
correct answer is:
“for me to poop on”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
It's great that cows can simply poop wherever and whenever they feel like it....
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
;=8)
Griebenschmaltz!
Anyone else remember that bomb Tyler Greene hit last year at Busch?
I remember it went upper deck. Who was it against?
He’s got some power
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.947 FIP
I wanted to see him leg out that single.
Satellite screwed up for a bit due to the storm, and they didn’t show it on the replay. that sucked.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
he hit two
one off Narveson and one off Chavez
video should be linked in the hr list
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
it was the one off narveson
absolute bomb
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 28, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Question? May be stupid
when calculating FIP, using IP, if someone has pitched 22.2 innings….due you use 22.2 as your denominator, or 22.66667?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.947 FIP
22.666667
the “22.2” is stupid and the most wrong thing in sports. it pisses me off so much when espn, whomever uses .1 or .2 when they really mean 1/3 or 2/3. it’s just so….incorrect.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 28, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks...must change trev's FIP
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.947 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 28, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
This
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 28, 2011 2:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
has there been a headcount of the VEB'ers to the south?
or are we just assuming they have no power
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm alive and well
but west tennessee missed this round…tuscaloosa got hammered…the video is incredibly scary to watch
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.947 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 28, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
There was somebody else that said they were in a hotel down there
and the storms were coming.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yea i am wondering about him
and arent there a few in mississippi…someone was in a motel
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 28, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
JD is in Georgia, I think last night (gamethread?) he said he's okay.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
good
north georgia got hit pretty good last night
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 28, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Got a tornado warning from about 1:15-1:45 but it went south of here
Very thankful. No hail or huge winds, just an intense thunderstorm for about 15 minutes.
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Apr 28, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, all of my family in Alabama and Tennessee is okay
My dad in Alabama doesn’t have power, but that’s all (he lives north of where the shit really went down) and my mom in Tennessee had a huge tree fall from her yard onto her neighbor’s house. It’s going to be expensive, but everyone is safe.
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Apr 28, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
how does insurance handle a tree taking out a neighbor's house?
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Apr 28, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea
It didn’t take out the house, it sounds like it’s currently just leaning on the house. The roof is damaged, but it didn’t break through. The ceiling(s?) of the room(s?) affected are intact.
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Apr 28, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Mother Nature is really making me question my hopefully soon to be house purchase
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Apr 28, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
We had a big snow a few years ago that caused a large limb to fall onto my apartment
I was very thankful that day to be renting
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Apr 28, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys and your lack of insurance fraud.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
duh
get a missile silo
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless the tree was dead and/or posing a direct
threat to the neighbors property BEFORE the storm knocked it down, it’s on the neighbor’s insurance. It’s an unavoidable act.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
that's good to hear.
tornadoes are scary as shit. i literally have nightmares about them.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Well, if I hung out in hammocks in my dreams,
I’d be afraid of tornadoes, as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I need to get my eyes checked
every time I see the word tornadoes I think that someone spelled tomatoes wrong.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
IT WAS ONE TIME
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Infamy is a bitch.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
RollBirdsRoll
Is in Birmingham with a giant hole in his roof from a downed tree before yesterday’s nonsense. Yikes. Hoping for the best.
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
Watch this incredible video
The guy is an idiot, but got some amazing footage. Nature is scary as shit.
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Apr 28, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And let me tell you what:
Sht is reallllllll scary
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
brown pants territory
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Apr 28, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
someone should tell this guy that this is how people die
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
good entertainment AND it weeds out the gene pool (or something like that)
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Apr 28, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow...
nuts…
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
He seemed to be kind of uncertain as to what to do...
when it was coming toward him, then panicked after it passed by.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
That has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of.
I remember that the one that went over our farm blew a hole threw both sides of the neighbor’s barn. Looked like the wind took a tree trunk and just blew it right thru the barn.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing was barreling at him...
and he got in his truck and drove to the other side of the parking lot.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Not the course of action I'd have taken.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Am I the only one that thinks that it sounded a bit
like a cheap, home-made porno?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
with bad performance?
when I make pornos, no one ever yells out " oh shit" like that
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
Sounds like you're not doing it right.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like you're not doing it right.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like you're not doing it right.
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
through*
the interwebs are melting my brain.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
what an idiot
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
pictures from the saturday reds game
start at the bottom of this page (17) with the lustrous mane of one music star / ace (cough) pitcher
sunday’s should start going up some time tonight if you want to look again
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
by d-dee on Apr 28, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
you were there Sunday?
looks like I missed buying ya that bacon monstrosity
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Apr 28, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
we'll coordinate better next time
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
NGAFAYCORSP
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Apr 28, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I care about her corpse, thank you very much
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is d-dee rui's mom?
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Apr 28, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
own grandmother
wait, did I do that right?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
but only if you have to get rid of it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
hahahaha hair vs. no hair
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
that shirt of Pete Prinzi's is a Cards standard.
Boog wore that some years ago in that Citi Field go-round.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
new theory, d-dee...
Theriot changes uniforms every inning. So he can be clean and gleaming for the ladiessss.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
riiiight….
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
see, he's talking about which uniform to switch to!
‘I mean look at me, I’m filthy’
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I just love that photo of Pujols sliding.
For some reason, he looks to me like a Little Leaguer unnecessarily sliding into home.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
it's his baby-mound.
he owns this base now. it’s his. until he decides to give it back.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
ahahaha
yeah, every time i’ve seen him on base past 1st, he won’t get off it until right before the pitch. only maybe a gingerly step to the right, when the pitcher is about to throw. otherwise right on top of it. both feet. it’s hilarious
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
very nice d-dee
Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter. Mark Twain
Professional Non-Boog Maikel Cleto
has gone 7 IP, 5 H, 0 BB, 1 UER, 6 K
domination again.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
is there any chance that they'll actually do that?
I mean, is there anything to lose?
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
What sticks out to me about that line
is that Cleto did not walk a batter.
Does anyone know what his fastball velocity has been at this season?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
For some reason, UZR really, really hates Boog's defense so far this season
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UZR subtracts extra for tardiness and annoying Ichiro. Little known fact.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Apr 28, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
standing next to Jack Wilson, anyone's UZR goes down.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
additionally, part of the tinkering to get Boog to Boog levels
was positioning him in the backbeyond. that’s dugout-calling. it would be interesting to know where they’re putting him.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
that works on both levels
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it still likes Matt Holliday, for some reason
but SSS applies here like no other.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
by purple_haze on Apr 28, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm starting to buy into the theory that is because matt holliday is good at playing left field.
or at the very least serviceable.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 28, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll go with serviceable
he improved by leaps and bounds since he’s come to us. for a left fielder, that’s kind of all we need.
I think if he can solve the riddle of communicating with Colby, we might have a nice future in that outfield.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Looked like he was scared of Jay last night, too.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
well really, when a man is built to skull-crushing strength, he might be afraid of crushing skulls
like Paul Bunyan trying to find some place to sit
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Now it's hard for me to not imagine Matt Holliday in a Paul Bunyan outfit
He’d be perfect.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Every single metric says that he's above average
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very few people who are currently playing left field
are actually good at playing left field. They are just there because there is someone already playing at first who would be worse than them.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
This is a total fallacy.
Many, many of the people playing left field are very good at it- Holliday grades at near the same numbers as Carl Crawford, the guy who is generally regarded as a plus CF who plays LF.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
Brett Gardner as well
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it is not a total fallacy
Left field is where you put your worse defensive out fielder as a general rule. So generally, it’s at least the worse of the three outfielders. A lot of times at least one of the bench players are better defensively than the starting LFer. Just so they can get the LFer’s bat in.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
Sounds like an argument for the DH.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
negative
Though having a DH Means that your worse defensive player now doesn’t play defensive at all.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
So that's why our worst OF defender is in LF,
oh wait no that’s bullshit because our worst is in RF
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
he said as a general rule, which is correct
the RF “should” be better since he has to make a longer throw to 3B when the situation arises. as far as total defenses prowess, i haven’t really heard that the RF should be better than the LF, but in general everyone agrees he should have a better arm. holliday offered to move to RF when berkman came in, but the team had him stay in LF for whatever reason, maybe so that he didn’t have to learn another position and thus make our outfield that much worse or something, i don’t know. but yeah, the gun should go in RF.
I think the reason they kept Lego in LF and put Berk in RF
is cause Berk is a left-handed thrower, which is marginally more useful on the right side of the field….
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
should we report him?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
You really gotta wonder about people sometimes.
Then again, he’s only 18. All kinds of stupid shit sounds good when you’re 18.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Fun Fact:
Adult cows do not drink milk
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
the weird ones do
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
you drink your own milk?
Ewwwwwww
"Defense is important to this team," second baseman Skip Schumaker said.
Wainwright is on Bernie's show
He likes Boggs for closer
by mick311 on Apr 28, 2011 1:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
then so do I
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
georgians got to stick together
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
I wonder what he thinks of the Arkansan.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
is that bernie?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
It's Franklin.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
he also thinks el guardo can save games...
On his stuff alone. The interview sounded like waino was in his living room trying to supervise his kids at the same time.
Yes, I am certain of this.
by Heisenberg on Apr 28, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are we at a point where we can explain, almost fully, what a baseball game was like, without watching the game?
You can get the boxscore from any site
You can get pitch f/x from Brooks Baseball or Texas Leaguers’ Pitch f/x database
You can get pitch-by-pitch information on Gameday
You can get leverage information and win probability from Fangraphs
Is it now possible to almost completely understand what happened in a game without actually watching it?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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ok, describe a game you haven't watched
using only stuff from those sources. Seriously, i’m curious.
you're
I don't have time for that right now
But I was doing soccer research and came across an article that said, essentially, “Soccer analytics are dumb and stupid because soccer is a beautiful sport and can’t be explained by numbers”
And I read a reply post on a soccermetrics blog that amended it “I kind of agree, but would change the last part to can’t be FULLY explained by numbers”
Which got me thinking about baseball
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soccermetrics
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Apr 28, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, it's the best name I've heard so far
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Is soccermetrics...
the statistic of counting flops on the field divided by the ratio of shots/made goals that also subtracts the number of goal attempts that are blocked by the goalie compared to the ones that are just completely missed, multiplied by the number of meters the closest defensive player is when the attempt was made, minus Y red cards*1.8743 divided by Z yellow cards *1.042 plus the additional time played at the end of the game squared minus corner kicks divided by penalty kicks multiplied by the current currency conversion rate of the GBP to USD?
Here’s the equation: (X Flops/((shots/made goals)-(# goalie blocked shots/completely missed shots))# meters to closest defender)-((Y Red Cards1.8743)/(Z Yellow Cards*1.042))+(additional time)²-(corner kicks/penalty kicks)*current conversion rate of £ to $)
by Jumsy on Apr 28, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Good one
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Its certainly true
and i think thats true of any sport. You can only really understand it, if you’ve seen it live or at least in full.
you're
But with baseball, the statistics are so advanced nowadays (and the sport, by its nature, lends itself to statistical analysis) and so descriptive
That we can understand basically what happened in any given game, far far far far better than we can in any other sport
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That is very true
But it has alot to do with the way the game is played. It is very prescribed compared to say, football (soccer) which is basically 90 minutes of STUFF without rhyme or reason. Baseball is much more systematic.
you're
I think it's true that hitting & pitching lend themselves to statistical techniques
and the 162-game season gives baseball a uniquely large data set.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
mmmm
there are things the computes can’t tell you. like that “base hit” to win the game on tuesday would have been a routine ground ball if the infielders weren’t pulled in. or that the sanchez double yesterday was the result of lance berkman not being a great right fielder.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
BIS (and I assume Field f/x) has fielder location data and notes when shifts happen
Wait, was that really ruled a hit?
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Could you elaborate?
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Games are won and lost by doing the "little things" like, uh, hitting the cutoff man...
how could you possibly know if an outfielder hit the cut off man???
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
That's one thing that's not captured in the data, sure
But I would say the number of games won and lost by doing that is extremely marginal
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so there's no point to one baseball game.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes that's exactly what I said
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no it's not, offline throws with risp usually mean runs scored
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
maybe to an extent
does gameday have “great diving catch by Berkman” or would it read line out to right field.
I would think in some areas like great plays or Errors the above info would be lacking.
Like you can read E6, but why was it an E 6 was it a hard ball that the scorer muffed? or was it an easy play they fell asleep on, was it in the glove work or throwing…and maybe gameday says some of that?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Gameday doesn't
Field f/x would have that information, if it were ever made public
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all or just some of the info on field fx
i would think that you could maybe describe it, but maybe the drama of lets say last night would be left out, or i guess you could assume drama?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
That drama is captured in seeing that pitchers in the 8th and 9th inning struggled in the box score
And then seeing the leverage index on Fangraphs, right?
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so i guess the answer is "probably"
but it sounds like it would take a hell of a lot longer than just watching the game.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Or you could just learn to look at the raw data like in The Matrix
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Apr 28, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Well maybe, but I wasn't really worried about the time issue
I was more concerned about the descriptiveness of baseball statistics compared with, say, soccer statistics
In soccer statistics, you see possession% and goals scored, basically. That’s not descriptive WHATSOEVER
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Thanks for adding to the discussion!
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i don't know why, i but i feel very indignant about the idea that you could know everything about a game without having to watch it.
on the one hand, its great that we have the technology and advanced statistics, and on the other hand, it makes the actual playing of the game seem less important.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
In the moment of the actual game, I have to listen/watch
But when I want to remember what happened in a particular game, I go straight to fangraphs or b-ref – not video highlights. It is much more efficient to get a summarized version of events in historical record form than trying to remember plays that lose clarity over time.
That said, Yadi’s HR against the Mets in 2006 isn’t the same in the boxscore. Nor is the Endy Chavez catch. So we definitely need more than a boxscore to capture the game – maybe a first hand account from someone like Pos who can put the Vin Scully or Jack Buck magic onto paper could fill the gap.
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
by all4tookie on Apr 28, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We need a Vin Scully auto tuner.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
And Taguchi's HR is not even on the internets!
/soapbox
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
But this is!
(open in media player.)
mms://a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2005/open/topplays/archive10/05nlcs_gm5_slnhou_pujols_3runhr_350.wmv?ct1=mlb
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
That's nice.
But I want game 2 from the 2006 NLCS.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
You'll get nothing and like it.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I have the DVD. I guess I could rip it and save that PA to the internets.
Buuuuuuut I’m not going to.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
giffffffff
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Game 2 is/was available on DVD?
I’ve got the WS set that included 5 and 7, but not 2.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
It's a different DVD. Stonecutters only.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I wouldn't be surprised if there are people reading this right now
that have access to it a lot faster than an old bootlegged DVD sitting somewhere in my basement.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Now find his homer off of Farnsworth!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
fun facts:
The Beatles’ concert at Shea Stadium, the biggest crowd The Beatles ever performed in front of, had fewer fans than Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS.
Albert Pujols only had one RBI in the series. He batted .318 in the series with seven walks.
In the series, the Cardinals scored one more run than the Mets, 28-27
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
i told you all the beatles sucked.
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
by all4tookie on Apr 28, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nah. you could see that there was drama, but you definitely couldn't feel the drama without watching.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.
I feel like this is a watching porn vs. having sex thing.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 28, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
wait. which is which?
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.
I feel like there's a joke about Rui's mom to be made here somehow...
2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!
probably several. After last night, I'm laying off that target for a while.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.
Well, that's the point of a good statistic, right?
It’s descriptive… it tells you what happened. An RBI doesn’t do that, and pitcher win doesn’t do that. But combine all of the resources available to us as baseball fans, and we get a pretty good idea of what happened in a baseball game
My hope is that I’m able to do the same for soccer, and that’s why I asked
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detecting a trend in your taste in characters
and agreed
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
if only we were better at live blogging
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
shhh! you're interrupting the spreadsheets!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm fairly certain your playing devil's advocate here Rui
As much as i enjoy looking over this stuff after the fact, the reason i watch sports is to WATCH / (listen) to SPORTS being played live, its the same whether its Football, Baseball, Cricket, Tennis or anything else. I watch it for the entertainment, ups and down etc. As cliched as it sounds, thats the truth. For me, analytics and reterospectives are all well and good, but its not why i’m here.
YES, you can understand a game after the fact, probably to an even better extent than someone just watching it. But really, whats the point?
you're
You are saying that I'm saying things that I haven't said
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I think it's pretty clear that you hate baseball
not sure what else you’re trying to get across
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 28, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you're describing an idea that has a name:
TBH, no offense rui, but I find the idea of thinking a baseball game (or any game, really, or any human activity at all really) can be exclusively and perfectly captured by numbers alone to be self-evidently wrong.
An analogy: a human body consists of trillions (?) of cells. Is there any one cell that contains that person’s identity? Or is the sum greater than the parts? Is there one cell, or one organ that could be surgically removed and then that person would no longer be that same person?
Boxscores &c are great if you missed the game and need to get filled in. But it’s not the same thing as actually experiencing the game. Pujols’ homer off Brad Lidge in 2005, for example, meant something different to the people who had been following the game up to that point, who saw the trajectory, the vapor trail, the way Lidge flinched, than just seeing some perfunctory box score notation.
Put another way, if you think that math is the be-all end-all, I want to play poker with you….
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
I'm ripping off that analogy pretty much wholesale from
Hofstadter, who does a way better job with it, but you get the idea….
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
forehead-slapping insight on almost every page
if you’re reading this, VEP, you should totally read this book.
Anyway, there’s an entire chapter on reductionism vs. holism and emergence, which IMHO addresses rui’s original question pretty well.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
I said none of these things
Except that in baseball, you can use numbers to tell you what happened that game, with a pretty high degree of accuracy
Statistics do not have this descriptive power in other sports, yet
At no point did I insinuate that paying attention to the statistics were an acceptable substitute for watching the game
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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see i know that you didn't, but like i was saying above, i think for most of us we are automatically indignant to the idea that statistics could tell you everything you needed to know
it marginalizes the experience, somehow. i know that wasn’t your intent, i just think its a knee-jerk reaction for a lot of us.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
And I guess I could have worded it a bit better in the first post too
But thanks for the feedback!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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are you being sarcastic
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
No
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I said none of these things
Except that in baseball, you can use numbers to tell you what happened that game, with a pretty high degree of accuracy
Statistics do not have this descriptive power in other sports, yet
At no point did I insinuate that paying attention to the statistics were an acceptable substitute for watching the game
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Is it now possible to almost completely understand what happened in a game without actually watching it?
Not trying to be argumentative—I might be missing something….
I guess I just think of the SABR stuff as an extension of reading the box score in the newspaper the day after the game, and box scores have been around forever. Line scores and the individual lines and details from the standard box score and WPA graphs are different perspectives on the same thing IMHO.
I agreed upthread that baseball is unique in its “mathy” character (except defense IMHO) and its huge sample sizes.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
i don't think rui is saying anything too profound or complex
the people taking issue with this are right that the stats are not a substitute for watching the game. we watch the games because we like the way that watching the games makes us feel. we don’t get that same feeling from browsing stats. however, it’s likely that we can know pretty much everything there is to know about the game given the numbers.
i don’t expect that many (if any) people would be able to properly interpret all the information, but i do believe that a potential algorithm exists that takes, as inputs, the data we currently have available and outputs a very closely replicated simulation of a game
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
That's a good point
That’s the essence of what I was saying: Could we take all the stats and resources available to us, and “recreate” the events of that game with an extremely high degree of accuracy? I think the answer is pretty darn close to yes
Nothing of that sort exists in ANY other sport
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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are you going to pioneer the statistical world of soccer?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Dude that pioneered SABR is already on it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm going to try, I guess
I’d like for the information to be made public though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I'd like to see football analysis get more statsy
the problem is that everything’s always going to suffer from SSS.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
that leads to an interesting thought
is the prominence of stats in baseball a function of the fact that a 162 game season leads to a sample size that makes this kind of work a lot more relevant?
i don’t know anything about other sports, but it would seem like that would be the case
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I think so, absolutely
stats probably can’t do much good with, say, boxing, where there just aren’t that many matches over a guy’s career.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
yes. plus in baseball, just about everything happens in isolation.
football, hockey, basketball and soccer involve multiple things happening in concert.
The cake is a lie.
I think I mostly agree with that
I still think defense is less obviously quantifiable compared to hitting & pitching. (I was saying I was skeptical about field f/x a few days ago, but I’m willing to have an open mind.)
I think it’s also worth keeping in mind that part of the “feeling” stuff—the drama—comes from the order all the various events happen in (timing, IOW). Each event influences subsequent events, it doesn’t all happen in a vacuum. Context factors into decision making in real time, even though later on it’s easy to second guess (“of course Tony was crazy to bring in Franklin with the bases loaded….”).
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
the fact that it's less obviously quantifiable
is not an argument against the potentiality of an algorithm to perfectly recreate the events of the game given the data we have, only an argument against the algorithms we currently use to interpret the data we have
some of that data may not currently be recorded, but it field f/x makes the hard part taken care of. it would be ridiculously simple to have someone plot the positioning of the fielders on the field prior to each pitch
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
with field f/x
you could theoretically create buckets for defensive plays that could be much more accurate than what we currently use for offense (“single, double, triple, popout” etc) – to the effect of “line drive with initial trajectory of X degrees and Y m/s initial velocity caught Z meters from initial position.” In fact, I think therein lies the real benefit of field f/x. Not only could defensive prowess be much more accurately and objectively studied, we could come up with more precise categorizations for offense as well.
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
obviously these ultra precise defensive categories
would be severely impacted by SSS (you’d have to make ranges for each vector or something) since the number of chances is relatively small
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
field f/x is just a tease, right?
are we ever gonna see it?
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
Us? Maybe not
Teams have it… I saw of preview of a guy who was working with it in Seattle. Looked like a heat map of how often players get to balls hit in specific parts of the field
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I like the idea of a heat map
cause it can account for continuity in a way that discrete buckets can’t….
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH YOU STATHEAD KIDS YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WATCH THE GAMES
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Jesus
Look at the guns on Berkman
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 28, 2011 2:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Meh - for me it's like looking in a mirror
(a mirror with a big hole in the middle; and through that hole I can see someone far bigger and stronger than me fielding a baseball)
by BTown Birds fan on Apr 28, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh, makes me think we should call him
The Berkinator if Puma wasn’t already an awesome nickname
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 28, 2011 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Instead of moar pies
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
you son of a.....
where’s the asshat disclaimer?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
dude sorry
to be honest…i didn’t even realize who the author was…just read and found it to be interesting
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 4/27/11):
22.2 IP, 29 K, 10 BB/HBP, 7 ER, 1.96 FIP
U want moar pies, I'll give ya moar pies....
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:=8)
Griebenschmaltz!
O/T
It is 2011. Why are people unable to answer e-mails in a timely fashion? I work in an office environment and those individuals who spend most of their time in the field have blackberry’s. I should never have to effing call anyone for simple answers. I’m sick of other people being unable to adapt to basic technology and then bitching about how the telephone is more efficient. BS. E-mail is recorded, referencable and near instantaneous. Short of people not answering their cell phones, this has to be one of my biggest pet peeves. Answer you’re freaking e-mails – it’s part of your job.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
by azruavatar on Apr 28, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
you know they're too busy playing angry birds
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
is this angry birds game available on blackberry? it seems to be all the rage
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
heh...pun not intended.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Not available on BlackBerry.
But I think there’s some sort of knock-off.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
people should just get real phones
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
ahaha, precisely
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
it's not my fault!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
wow i did some google searching and people are pissed about it not being on BB
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
That fucking game pisses me off.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i'm downloading something called "angry farm"
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Let me know how it is.
Josh has Angry Birds on his iPad, but I’m sure he wouldn’t mind having something like that for his BlackBerry.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
it would probably help if i read the instructions since i have no idea wtf i'm doing
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
ok it seems pretty awesome. but i have no frame of reference.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
This...
E-mail is recorded
We’ve got folks who don’t want to pinned down…in addition to being lazy.
However, I will say I’d rather have a phone call than an email written in Blackberry/text speak.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Maybe you should take the hint
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Apr 28, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't care if this guy likes me
but he found a problem on a multimillion dollar piece of equipment I ordered and I can’t get it fixed until I can pass along a detailed explanation of the problem to the manufacturer.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
but have you considered that maybe the guy
just doesn’t want to be your friend???
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 28, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
its funny that you mention this
because in my profession, there is a stark generational gap in email response time. the older partners are used to sending a letter with information out to a client, the client would get it, review it, and send something back a few days later, with a total response time of almost a week. now, clients are CONSTANTLY emailing because they can and it gives the partner basically no time to do anything. people get so many emails that they actually CAN’T respond immediately to any of them. its ironic.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
The other problem though is some people just get inundated
A partner I worked with would get a couple of hundred emails a day. If we were in court all day, he would walk out to a completely fully inbox to which he could not keep up. It made me realize that sending emails can be a burden to some people. So now I try to refrain from emails where I just say, thanks or an affirmative response.
I often thought we should have standards for what is appropriate email use or better email filtering or something. But I feel Az’s pain as I sit here waiting for an email so I can file something.
at least in law you can't charge a client if you're answering emails unrelated
to their case. My friends in consulting get the same deluge of emails, hundreds of them, and they’re answering them all day and basically all that time is being charged to one corporate client. Consultants….that’s one giant black hole I’d never throw my money into if I ran a company
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I won't speak for everyone and I don't receive that many e-mails in a day (maybe 20-30)
but even when I’ve been gone for a week and come back to my inbox with 100+ e-mails, it only takes me a day to clear it out. I don’t think people understand good e-mail etiquette (when things are informational and when they require action) or how to properly organize e-mails within outlook. So, in many cases, the idea that people “can’t” keep up with e-mail is, again, their individual problem and not an inherent problem with e-mail.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
there was a Calvin & Hobbes strip about this
Calvin’s dad was complaining about how increased technology was supposed to make life easier, but it’s done the opposite since everybody can now cram more crap into every single day. And of course, this is obviously from some years ago by now, so it’s even more true now than when he wrote it.
The property managers I’ve worked for get so many phone calls & emails a day that they could not possibly be expected to respond to all of them.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
Ditto. I'm going to rec the robot's whining, because it's my whining too.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.
Well, another advantage of email
is that I can answer when I feel like it. Which is perhaps not an excuse if answering questions is in fact the main part of your job; but it lets me decide what my priorities are.
What ticks me off is people who instigate a chain of twelve or fifteen emails to set up a conference call between me and their colleagues to answer the question I asked in the email. It amounts to “I can find out the answer, but you’re going to have to make an appointment to get it.”
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
lineup
dirty dan – 2b
batman (i expect birthday heroics) – 3b
mang
lego
puma
cheese
affleck
greene tea – ss
kmac
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
what are all these guys... Aries?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we're in taurus now
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
Hell yeah taurus!
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Apr 28, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
the other cluster is Albert and Matt, yeah?
I used to have that birthday list, back when I cared. well, mostly it was fun baiting andi into impromptu readings.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm surprised no one noticed before now
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
okay...I've never heard the Affleck one
someone explain please
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
got me
I was just trying to figure it out. And came to the same conclusion.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
gerald laird was on the pregame show apr 4th, although there is no video online of it
and said that he joked that he looked like ben affleck in front of the others
so for opening day, the guys put a ben affleck sign on the truck that brought him onto the field
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 24
laird said a couple of weeks ago that he thinks he looks like ben affleck
tongue in cheek, i presume
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
last night marks the 1st emergence of the 6th part of our MV6
tonight his reign continues
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 28, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Greene, Theriot, Schumaker, Descalso, Punto, Gost of Aaron Miles?
2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!
wow what an awful guess.
Rasmus
Greene
Holliday
Sanchez
Berkman
Freese
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 28, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
freese
strauss said in his chat:
Freese has a good arm with limited range. There are certain plays that tie him up. He’s doing fine if evaluated as major league average.
is that right? i thought freese was supposed to be a “plus” defender.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I've never seen plus.
He’s cromulent.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
He just seems plus because we haven't had a real 3Bman since Troy Glaus.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
FUCK
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Apr 28, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
(batslam)
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
by spants on Apr 28, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
also the first 3rd bagger since Santa
with the ability to generate a decent pun.
Next in line=Cox? Carpenter?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 28, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean 2008, 5.9 UZR, 5.4 WAR Troy Glaus?
His awesome year kind of got lost in the ridiculousness of Pujols and Ludwick.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Which is weird...
I just realized that Fangraphs had Ludwick and Glaus worth the same amount of WAR that year.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
getting Glaus for the basically-already-halfway-out-of-the-door,-expensive,-and-probably-permanently-injured Scott Rolen
was easily the best trade Mo’s made as GM, IMO. Tony basically gave him an unwinnable situation and, barring an unexpected Glaus injury in 2009, he would’ve comfortably won it.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the injury was just as likely to happen as was a 6 WAR season
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Apr 29, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess i was wondering about his milb numbers
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
wat.
Greg: Joe,
Oy vey it’s been hard to watch the late innings of Cards games lately. You figure Batista gets a shot at the 9th here in the near future?
Thanks, Greg
Joe Strauss: Not at this point.
at least strauss was right about something.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I don't know.
I could totally see Batista pitching the 9th if the Cardinals are getting their asses handed to them.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
i guess that would be okay.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
strauss was saying batista was the front runner for the closer if franklin went down
like a week and a half ago.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
I'm disappointed there are no mameshiba avatars today...
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.
wow. Zoriila had 8 RBI today.
7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.
Dear Astros...
How’s Adam Everett and Chris Burke working for you?
(Obligatory.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
he actually had 8 rbi in one game
he could go for more today in the nightcap.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Apr 28, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
has anybody seen
this?
I hadn’t heard of this actual Sign Pujols movement going on. It’s cool because all the proceeds go to the Pujols Family Foundation.
The profit being Alberts next contract
That’s how we’re funding it
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 28, 2011 7:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's actually a pretty smart ploy.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
just FYI
this link was posted above a few hours ago. But yeah, seems like a pretty interesting idea.
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
by hr on Apr 28, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
anybody heard from redbirdsroll?
death toll in across southern US is at 250 last i heard. just awful
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
He checked in yesterday with a tree through the roof,
I haven’t heard since then.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yeah, that was before the mile wide tornadoes and other chaos
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
OT: taylor swift
as someone who actually likes her, i still think this is pretty funny.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
i think she's hot
but i can’t stand her music. granted, i’m male and not really her target audience, but still.
haha at least Chris Duncan has a sense of humor...
This Brian Stahl guy does Baseball Tonight on 101 and said last night when Holliday missed that fly ball Franklin gave up he got a text on his phone that said ‘when did Chris Duncan start playing LF for us again?’….he looked to see who it was from…Chris Duncan
by mick311 on Apr 28, 2011 7:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That is pretty awesome
I always found Chris Duncan really likable. I was still happy we finally traded him. It was for the best.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
in the event of any pennants/titles
we should probably re-employ him for a day as honourary humper.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.
by The Continental on Apr 28, 2011 7:15 PM EDT reply actions
Didn't see this anywhere so I hope it's not nexdef.
DG analyzes where we’d be without all the DP’s.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
in a bad way or a good way?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad way
Involves pooping in mouths
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
that's putting it nicely
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Apr 28, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
more disgusting than the episode where they pooped OUT of their mouths?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
bad I think, but I'm not sure
it’s not that funny, but I don’t think it was trying to be.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Apr 28, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a feeling it would have been much funnier if I saw the movie first
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Apr 28, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
alien conspiracy?
sinister wizardry?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 28, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Best double play ever?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
by mysterui on Apr 28, 2011 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i think it just shows
that some 2B have terrible arms
by Shi on Apr 28, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
wut this!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
That's pretty neat.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 28, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
does anybody put any value in B-R's SRS?
just curious. Cards are 2nd behind the Indians right now.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
tonights' game is an MLB.tv free preview
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Is there any way to get around the IP block?
Am I allowed to ask that?
by Swordslasher on Apr 28, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
they're letting dan do the pregame beer commercials again?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
"They were FILMING that?!
Fuck!"
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
how much does the ERA drop in this game for figueroa?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
Where is everyone?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
thought nota bene was making a gamethread
still don’t see one though
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I really like tonight's lineup!
free compositionson guitar and keyboards through looping pedal (no overdubs)
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 28, 2011 8:12 PM EDT reply actions
never mind
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
by nota bene on Apr 28, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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