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With a Benchmark Met, Another Awaits

When I was a kid, my dad would get me a pocket schedule for the St. Louis Cardinals every spring. I would take it to my desk and, surrounded by stacks of baseball cards that were in a constant state of organization and re-organzation, I would digest the schedule, highlighting those match-ups I felt to be the most important. I would start with those series against the National League East champions because, after all, this was back in a time when there were but two divisions--no National League Central Division existed. Those series against the National League East champ would be crucial as would the contests against the winner of the National League Pennant. Those games were highlighted and underlined. Of course, there is no better benchmark for a club than playing a World Series Champion. If that club happened to be a member of the NL--because, back then, there was no inner-league play--those games would get a highlight, an underline, and a star. 

This childhood tradition fell by the wayside as I grew older and my own baseball schedule swallowed up a large chunk of my summer; the internet made it extinct. While I may not get a pocket schedule and highlight the big match-ups each spring, I still go through the schedule week by week, looking for the big match-ups and road trips. In 2004, that first series against the Cubs was noted; in 2006, it was the premiere face-off against those rivalrous Astros that was the most highly anticipated. In 2008 and 2009, it was the Cubs again. And, in 2011, the first series I sought out on the schedule was against the Cincinnati Reds.

Before last year, there was no rivalry with the Reds. They were a once-proud franchise with a dwindling fanbase and a launching pad for a ballpark. Heck, there still is not really a rivalry, so to speak. This is a more of a feud and this feud was not started until late summer when Brandon Phillips said what he said and Yadier Molina took exception the following day. What was an exchange of verbal barbs quickly escalated into a scuffle, during which Johnny Cueto's cowardly kicks ended the career of Jason LaRue, a former Red and current Cardinal. A feud was born then and there, which likely would have led to a highlight of the April 22-24 series at Busch on its own. Add to it the 2010 National League Central crown which sits atop their mustachioed baseball-headed mascot and it has all the intrigue for which a fan could hope.

Star-divide

As the clubs closed out the appetizer series to this weekend past's main dish, the villainous Phillips took to Twitter to stoke the flames of dislike burning for him in the...Gateway City. Phillips turned full-fledged heel, striking chords more commonly struck in the kayfabe tradition of professional wrestling--insulting St. Louis restaurants, dredging up Rasmus Girl, putting down the Ballpark Hilton, and even insulting Cardinal fans' booing skill. It was as if Vince McMahon had highjacked Phillips's Twitter account to build up heat for a forthcoming pay per view. It worked as the Best Fans in Baseball greeted our new heel with a chorus of boos which Phillips seemed to welcome. And so Phillips has become our favorite heel to dislike, even if it oddly feels like everyone is in on the joke.

It is rare that an early season series lives up to its potential, but this one certainly did. After La Russa demonstrated an ability to type "www.weather.com" into his office computer where Dusty Baker could not, the first game of the series saw reliever-turned-starter-turned-reliever (for this game) Kyle McClellan use his customary smoke and mirrors to bedazzle the Reds' batsmen as our offense managed to scratch out four runs on twelve hits for the win. The second act of the series was featured on FOX and featured fine performances from each starting pitcher. After a rain delay took the television viewing audience to San Francisco for the Braves-Giants, we were beamed back to St. Louis in time to see the old and proven arms of the Redbird bullpen combine to allow the Reds to rally and take the lead with a single hit off the bat of Miguel Cairo, who fittingly now sports a villainous goatee. It would prove the game-winner and the series-tier.

There would be an Easter rubber match on Sunday Night Baseball; that is, if precocious Mother Nature would allow. And so Cardinal Nation spent their Easter Sunday hunting eggs, eating candy, at church, spending time with family, and keeping an eye on the evening's forecast for the St. Louis metro area. It was a forecast that looked most dire, even after the first few innings.

Jake Westbrook worked like a man with one eye on the weather forecast. He wasted little time between pitches as he peppered the lower part of the strike zone with sinker after sinker and the Reds' vaunted offense had no answer. Edinson Volquez was up to the challenge as well, deploying a fastball-changeup combination that has been outlawed in four states. Then Volquez landed funny on his follow-through and his offerings seemed to lose life and control. As Baker is wont to do, he ignored his young pitcher's winces in the fifth and sent him back out for the sixth. It was a move that proved most fateful as Volquez allowed two baserunners before Yadier Molina swatted a low-and-in fastball over the left-center field wall and gave the Cards a 3-0 lead. It was more than enough for the K Kids, as Salas and Sanchez proved most filthy in setting up for the ninth-inning-reliever-when-ahead-three-or-less-but-not-officially-our-closer Mitchell Boggs. The third game and the series belonged to the Cards and, with it, sole possession of first place.

We as fans should not get ahead of ourselves, though, for the just-vanquished Reds sit only one game back in the standings and the much-hyped Brewers sit but one-half game back with Zack Greinke's return said to be on the near horizon. And we also should not forget that last season the Cardinals went 12-6 against this Reds team, yet found themselves sitting at home watching playoff baseball on T.V. in October. Yes, these early season benchmark series are fun and it may have been highlighted, starred, and underlined, but this series win may not be as telling about the club's fortunes as this next road trip. Last year's Cardinals struggled against sub-.500 ball clubs and that is a reminder most sobering as the club gets ready for a trip to Houston (8-14) and Atlanta (11-12).

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I'm happy about it, and not just 'cause we're in first place

Berkman keeps hitting. Some kids are developing in the bullpen. Someone besides Skip played 2nd base. Not a bad weekend, excepting the Freese error.

by sdrone on Apr 25, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

If only

That someone playing 2nd was theriot it’d be even better, but beggars can’t be choosers and eat cake or something along those lines.

by lopey986 on Apr 25, 2011 9:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that HR was awesome

i don’t usually get worked up during regular season games, but that swat by Yadi did it for me

by mikey_mac on Apr 25, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was funny listening to Shulman and Hershiser

last night, desperately grasping at straws to try and turn the Brandon Phillips scenario into a net positive.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I also found it funny how many times they attempted to promoted next Sunday's game

by saying something along the lines of, “The Mets are on a hot streak!”

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

David Wright!

He’s pudgily handsome! And a man named Angel! Who’s not a pitcher!!! Sunday Night Baseball!!!!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

David Wright is pudgy?

Oh god I need to go to the gym today. . .

Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.

by azruavatar on Apr 25, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

You may need to go to the gym -

 - I don’t know, cause I don’t know you – but David Wright is not pudgy.

by peach concrete on Apr 25, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, "stocky"

for pete’s sake.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's pretty lean.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

That makes me Big Pun

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pagan's DL'd

Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.

by tehzachatak on Apr 25, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Their radio crew was talking about how Holliday

is a below average to average-at-best Left Fielder and most left fielders would have gotten to a ball he didn’t get to early in the game. My wife says to me “I didn’t know he was a bad fielder.” I told her “That’s because he’s not. They’re just making stuff up.” “Oh. That’s nice of them.”

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

On a dry field

I think he probably makes that catch. He did look like he was holding back a bit and given the rain and how important he is to the Cardinals I’m just fine with that.

by WizardofOz1982 on Apr 25, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

That looked like an injury about to happen

Sure, if Votto were to hit a home run the next pitch, we may have come down on Holliday, but I was glad he pulled up in that situation.

by olddomination on Apr 25, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby Valentine.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 25, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Incorrect.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

who is the radio crew?

still Campbell?

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jon Sciambi and Chris Singleto

according to wiki. Never heard of either.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

white sox too, no?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sciambi used to do (maybe still does) Braves games on Sportsouth

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way the series against the Reds

and earlier went, it is like we have 2 bullpens. There are the K kids, Motte, and Boggs in one; and Franklin, Batista, and Miller in another. I hope that TLR uses the day off to realign and mix those pens up, so that he doesn’t use up the good pen one day, and only have the bad pen available the next day. Perhaps unfair to Miller, but anyhow, so be it, based on the game that we lost. Going forward, I have no idea what happens when Augenstein and Tallet come off the DL. I would like to see Miller, Tallet, Motte, Boggs, Sanchez, Salas, and one other reliever, who should be the long man. Based on the stats so far, Batista looks better than Augenstein, but I don’t like Batista’s walks. So, what to do? Maybe we should look at Dickson instead, who is putting up pretty good numbers in Memphis right now, but has also walked quite a few, or Lance Lynn. However, I guess that barring anything unusual like more injuries happening, or a move outside the organization, I expect that in fact we will see Miller, Tallet, Motte, Boggs, Franklin, Batista, and maybe Salas instead of Augenstein. Any views on this?

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Apr 25, 2011 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Being the LOOGY, Miller is a separate entity and not part of either grouping

That said, Augenstein should be one to be sent to Memphis, since Batista and Tallet are capable of being the long man. I’m just a little worried that it won’t be Batista, Tallet or Franklin cast off when Tallet is ready.

There’s not really a need to add anyone else from Memphis right now.

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think

that you meant Batista, Augenstein, or Franklin. I agree with what you have said, except Tallet should be kept as a LOOGY, not used as a long reliever, based on his Toronto record last year.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Apr 25, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK

but I thought that we acquired him for that purpose.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Apr 25, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

we acquired him as a second lefty, which he is

Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.

by tehzachatak on Apr 25, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

but

not as a long reliever, or anything but as a situational lefty like Miller, right?

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Apr 25, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right

Looks like Olde Tyme Barbershop Quartet, used like “Grand Slam Breakfast” Reyes

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 25, 2011 9:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This year, yes

But as a starter in 2010 he was much better against lefties — in fact, teams stacked their lineups with right handed hitters against him last year to take advantage of that split.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even then,

he’s still better against left handed hitters: v. RHB: .781 OPS, v. LHB: .729 OPS

In 2010: 1.020 v. RHB, 0.681 v. LHB.

I’d say 50 points over 2000 PA’s is fairly significant.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Compared to Miller's career:

.826 OPS vs R (1100 PA)
.664 OPS v L (1000 PA)

I’d say 50 points isn’t much.

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, to me...

He’s a LOOGY in training. (Hence my use of the disclaimer “yet”.)

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would agree with this

With the caveat that he was acquired to be a bullpen lefty, so that’s what his role on the team is.

Comparison’s to Miller aren’t really fair — if your entire job was to get lefties out for the last 5-6 years, you SHOULD be quite a bit better at it, right?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a fair point

Tallet’s prior usage isn’t quite comparable to Miller’s usage.

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Miller has been a LOOGY for years and so he has a roughly equal amount of PAs against from RHB and LHB. However, Tallet has not been a LOOGY. He has faced twice as many RHB (1,337 PA) as LHB (651 PA) in his career. This may be a chicken-and-egg type of argument, but, to my eye, Tallet has the stuff to consistently get LHB out.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

That series was pretty fun

I loved going yesterday and watching Nasty Sanchez throwing like he was in a cartoon and the ball avoiding the bats and Yadi’s homerun was so awesome

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 25, 2011 9:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Sanchez WAS Bugs Bunny-like in his pitching

Let’s see what’s in the ol’ cannonball, kiiiid! The ol’ pepper down the ol’ alley, booooy!

by peppermartin on Apr 25, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Man has a filthy breaking pitch...

..sort of a slurvy breaking ball that bites down and in to righties. And he throws it for strikes. Just nasty, I can see him evolving into our closer by 2013.

:=8)

Griebenschmaltz!

by The MooCow on Apr 25, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Salas has some good pitches too!

I’m excited about both Baby Birds!!!

:=8D

Griebenschmaltz!

by The MooCow on Apr 25, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see him evolving into our closer by June 13

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd... Especially with the typo.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Apr 25, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Boggs starting next year

I think his bullpen experiences will helping avoid those fateful innings that messed up some good starter’s innings.

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by totalloser on Apr 25, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not as good as a starter.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's what was said about KMac

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 25, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn't a MLB starter, though.

And he didn’t all of a sudden develop a 97 MPH fastball when he went to the pen.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

KMAC was untested as a starter

Boggs was tested as a starter. (briefly at the MLB level). I would say McClellan was more of an unknown, where Boggs is more of a known. Boggs has not been good as a starter.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he had some good innings as a starter

He also showed progressive improvement between the two years he started. I think he has potential because hopefully he learned how to pitch with man on base, avoiding the big innings. I am looking at fangraphs but I can’t quite find the split stats related to big innings or pitching with man on vs. off. Could anyone help me find the proper measure to test my hypotheses?

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by totalloser on Apr 25, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

nobody is as good as a starter

Boggs hasn’t exactly been good as a reliever either, there isn’t much to lose.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on Apr 25, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been good this year so far.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose

But that’s also in 12 innings.

He was pretty solid last year, but nothing special. I’d definitely like to see him get another shot at the rotation sometime this year or next.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on Apr 25, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

For that to happen this year would mean

McClellan stops cutting it or gets hurt or another starter gets hurt. I don’t wish to see that.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I read somewhere (maybe the Book) that your closer is/should be about as valuable as your 3rd starter

And since I don’t think Boggs can be good enough to rank as the third starter he should stay as our “closer”.

Now what am I going to spread on my toast? Your tears?

by jacksonian on Apr 25, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best closers in baseball are typically about as valuable as Jake Westbrook last year

So if Boggs turns out to be Brian Wilson, he would be about as valuable as a 3rd starter.

But generally starting pitchers are much more valuable than closers. And they certainly have a higher cieling.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on Apr 26, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he hasn't been a good reliever, I'd hate to think of what your opinion of him was as a starter.

Cause he was a fucking Georgia bucket full of suck.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

One thing I noticed watching the games this weekend

Is how often the Cincy pitchers were throwing “get over” pitches to Rasmus to start his at-bats. In three of is 4 AB’s last night the first pitch just seemed like it was fat and right down the middle, almost as if they know he’s not swinging on that first ball (even though, statistically, that’s not true).

Did anyone else notice the same thing?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Probably partially true

More of it may just be that he is gonna see a lot of hittable pitches all year batting in that 2 hole with pujols, Holliday and berkman behind him. Opposing pitchers are gonna do everything they can to make theriot and Rasmus put the ball in play and get outs because they can’t risk walking one or both of them with the 3-5 the cardinals have.

by lopey986 on Apr 25, 2011 9:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Looking at his Pitch F/X data from the weekend

over at Texas Leaguers, it does not appear that he saw that many watermelon, get-me-over first pitches.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those three called strikes

look pretty fat to me. One slider up in the middle part of the strike zone, and two fastballs that split the plate thigh high.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

which was the right adjustment to make

just not the preferred outcome.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, as the pitch came in, i was thinking "swing"

it was right in his wheel house. he usually only pops up the outside stuff.

by mikey_mac on Apr 25, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

seems the book on Raz is changeups right now

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by ANDYAK47 on Apr 25, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert's OBP is still sitting around .300.

why? That’s freaking awful. He’s only walked 8 times. Yes, it’s still early in the season so this doesn’t mean much and just a few walks could change it, but he’s not even on the top 40 leaderboard in that category. Does he have poor plate discipline so far this year? I know he’s making consistent contact, but is he swinging more often or at more stuff out of the zone?

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by mattyp on Apr 25, 2011 9:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Looking at Fangraphs,

Pujols’s Swing is actually down to 40.9, which would be the second-lowest of his career after 2007. But he is making a career-high level of contact with pitches outside the strike zone, which probably helps to account for both his low average and walk rate. When I type career-high, I mean it. His contact rate for pitches outside the zone is 84.2% this season. His career average is 67.3%; previous career-high, 76% (last season).

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason he's swinging at EVERYTHING

Its really strange. Twice last night he made weak outs swinging at a ball low and away outside the strike zone, it’s really bizarre to see. For some reason (I can think of 300 million) he seems to be trying to hit every single pitch that comes his way instead of waiting to get a good pitch and taking a walk if he doesnt.

by lopey986 on Apr 25, 2011 10:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

can someone just please check his eyes already...

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is not swinging at everything.

It only feels that way because he is making more outs with contact on pitches outside the zone. The percentage of pitches Pujols is swinging at is the second-lowest of his career. The percentage of contact made on pitches swung at outside the zone is way above his career average.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

huh, odd

so its almost as though he’s a victim of his own excellent contact rate this year; he’s swinging at about the same % of pitches outside the strike zone, but he’s making more contact on those pitches and presumably hitting into easy outs when he does.

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by mattyp on Apr 25, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is probably a large part of why his GB% started off so high, too.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Add to that, that Holliday and Berkman are raking

so it’s puzzling to see El Hombre not take the walk. It’s no longer Albert and the 7 dwarfs this year.

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by totalloser on Apr 25, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That seems really weird to me

Is he just picking the wrong pitches? Is it just bad luck?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 25, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

poor selection I'd say

he’s swinging at pitches outside the zone with which he can make contact, but not drive with any authority. hence the ground outs.

by mikey_mac on Apr 25, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

id say it's bad luck

he’s swinging at the same pitches, at a much lower rate, just making higher contact.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

His BABIP is barely over .200

However, his linedrive percentage is way down, for him, I think.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 25, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is a result of making more contact with bad pitches!

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

WARNING: Half-baked conspiracy theory coming

I’m starting to think that the front office has orchestrated a tipping scheme against Pujols.

by peppermartin on Apr 25, 2011 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Here is another

off-the-wall theory. I was wondering if Manny Ramirez actually wanted to get caught using banned substances. As in, he knew that he didn’t have the physical abilities that he used to, so rather than struggling through the season, just get caught, and say, oh WTF, I am retiring. Since he probably realized beforehand that because of last year he isn’t going to get elected to the HOF, nothing to lose except his salary (presumably he isn’t being paid now?). Far-fetched I know, but Manny being Manny?

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Apr 25, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

No way. He would have had a good shot at the hall before getting caught again.

Also, he looked pretty good this spring, if I recall.

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said

just a random thought. Otherwise, I can only conclude that he was just really dumb or just didn’t care.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Apr 25, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd guess the last.

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was absolutely Manny being Manny

When you don’t give a frick about anyone or anything except yourself, what does it matter?

by peppermartin on Apr 25, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would expect

that a normal person would do that. It is all such a strange sort of situation to me.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Apr 25, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly, he has absolutely nothing to gain from doing this

This might be one of the weirdest conspiracy theories I’ve heard.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 26, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ack.

Why is PSN still down?

TGreene for breakout player in '11!
Yea, I'm a Craigslister....

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 25, 2011 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Because we all know

The best way to let everyone know of a supposed social injustice is to act like 8 year olds drunk with power.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 25, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait...

so you’re saying it’s not the best way?

by avs18fan on Apr 25, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mind = Blown

I’ve lived my whole life thinking this was not only the best way, but the only way, to resolve social injustices.

by WizardofOz1982 on Apr 25, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anonymous

said they weren’t going to attack the PSN. Doesn’t mean someone who associates themselves with PSN didn’t go ahead and do it though.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Apr 25, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're fingerpointing at each other

Sony says that it was an external intrusion, and while Anonymous says it wasn’t them, the timing is suspicious.

Anonymous says that Sony says “it’s suspicious” as a smoke-and-mirrors tactic to take focus off the fact that it’s been an internal issue all along.

by avs18fan on Apr 25, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Typically they do, yes.

Though I always tend to take the things that people partaking in illegal activities say with a grain of salt. Actually, for that matter, I do the same with the PR folks of big businesses.

So in this case… who knows. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

by avs18fan on Apr 25, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Typically

But in this case they released a statement awhile back saying they weren’t targeting PSN and they didn’t want to affect gamers in anyway.

Then again anyone can release a statement under the Anonymous banner. All I know is I’m pissed that I can’t play Killzone 3 online.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Apr 25, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't let me log into Netflix to watch it.

But then it suddenly worked. Very strange. I thought Netflix required PSN login?

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't watch MLB.tv on it, either

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sucks hard.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Encouraging to see Westbrook

finally have a decent game. The rotation’s looking solid if we can just get Carp off the snide. . .

Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Greene 6, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Freese 5, Molina 2, pitcher, The Riot 4

by gocards62 on Apr 25, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

additionally, it is encouraging to see the Cards winning games despite Pujols' "struggles"

our bullpen’s struggles have been considerably less encouraging. Although, the young guys seem quite capable!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Apr 25, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love our bullpen,

except for Franklin, of course. Here’s hoping he gets the boot when Tallett returns.

Boggs, Sanchez, Motte, Salas, Batista, Miller, and Tallett should be able to get us through the season.

Augenstein would be first in line for injury replacement if someone gets hurt only because Victor Marte requires a 40-man roster move. Rundles and Valdes would be okay emergency lefties if it came down do it, but they also require 40-man roster moves. That’s okay as I doubt we’d miss PJ Walters.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 25, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

See

way above. Basically the same wishlist.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Apr 25, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did Carp do wrong?

He’s had one bad game and should be 3-1.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's another conspiracy theory that I won't fully disclose at this time, but it involves mirrors and radar

all joking aside, it would be convenient for the front office if both Pujols and Carp posted sub-par numbers for the season. Now if you start to see Tanya Harding at the ball park, then that would be a dead giveaway.

by peppermartin on Apr 25, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

really, how much of a discount do you think Pujols would take

after a bad season? Obviously, the market will dictate that to a degree, but even after a bad season I doubt he’d take less than 8 years at 26 per.

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Apr 25, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Chris Carpenter is not on any kind of snide. Here are his lines:

3/31: 7 IP, 2 ER, 2 SO, 2 BB, 2 H
4/6: 6 IP, 1 ER, 6 SO, 0 BB, 8 H
4/12: 4 IP, 8 ER, 4 SO, 3 BB, 8 H
4/17: 7 IP, 0 ER, 6 SO, 0 BB, 5 H
4/21: 6 IP, 2 ER, 6 SO, 2 BB, 2 H

He is currently striking out 7.8 per 9 innings and walking 3.25 per 9 innings. If he continues striking out batters at the current rate, it would be his highest K rate since his Cy Young 2005 season. The walk rate is a bit high, but still lower than his 2009 walk rate, when he finished second in the Cy Young balloting.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

well that's a little too convenient

to just toss out a game like that. I feel like Carp will have a not insubstantial number of those games this year, but overall he will be because he’ll be his regular shut down self in the rest of those games when his breaking ball is on.

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Apr 25, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

overall he will be excellent, that should say

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Apr 25, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

what makes you think

he’s going to have a lot of worst-game-since-2003 type of games?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

even the year he won his Cy Young

he had a couple meltdown type games and a few more bad starts

by mikey_mac on Apr 25, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he just meant that he has the 0 in the W column...

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Apr 25, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

A thing to remember though (I'd be surprised if you forgot, bgh, I just thought it was worth mentioning)

is that Carpenter had that teeny-tiny homerun rate in 2009.
Also, I’m confused… the stat pages say he’s walking 2.4 per nine so far this year.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 25, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

And they would be correct.

I crossed my SO/BB with by BB/9. My mistake. Carp’s 2.4 BB/9 is lower than his career average and identical to last season’s.

And, yes, he did have a ridiculously low HR rate in 2009.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

So Chris Carpenter is awesome!

He also had a very low walk rate in 2009, and that wasn’t way out of line with years he had had in the past. But I think we can all agree the 2009 home run rate is probably not gonna happen again.
Anyway, I think this all supports your premise still, which is that he’s pitched pretty well and should be fine.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 25, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. There's no reason to be concerned.

Chris Carpenter cannot enter the game to relieve for himself. What’s more, he is bound to have the K Kids follow his starting act at some point in time, which will most likely lead to a pitching “win.”

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I took that as a tongue-in-cheek line.

I’d say he knows enough to know that Carp’s “record” isn’t totally his fault.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

For real.

If only we could get Carp to throw a CG SO every game and provide all his team’s offense.

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by spants on Apr 25, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last night was the first game I've seen on ESPN in a while,

and I absolutely hated the behind-the-ump camera angle they used for a number of pitches (it seemed like quite a few toward the end of the game, but it’s probably exaggerated in my mind because it was so irritating). I’d like to actually see the pitch when it crosses the plate and the batter’s response to it, as opposed to the umpire’s ass.

by BTown Birds fan on Apr 25, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

No, they've been doing games like that all year so far.

It’s just a new camera angle, kind of like the ones in front of the plate the Fox used a few years ago until guys started kicking dirt on them as a matter of course.

It has something to do with someone’s assertion that you get a better “feel for the velocity” of the pitch or something.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why don't they use one of those tiny

James Bond cameras attached to the Ump’s mask so we can get both? I mean, it works in the movies then it oughta be real. Right?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing

that I liked about it was that you could a good view of the sink on westbrook’s pitches. Even then, it should be a novelty, not something they use on the reg.

by jeff_abs on Apr 25, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

in 3-D even!

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

dammit, you beat me to it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree wholeheartedly.

That angle should never be used for a live action shot. It should only be shown on instant replay and probably not even then.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

another good post, BGH

your captions need work, though

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sat out in Big Mac land last night...

and immediately after the reds finished BP, here comes Kruk plodding down the steps to the first row, camera, crew and all tagging along behind him.

All I can say is, it is no wonder that the man has put on the weight that he has. They brought him; nachos, a pretzel, a bacon wrapped BBQ hot dog, peanuts, sunflower seeds, cotton candy and lord knows what else.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

that order is actually just one off-menu selection called "The Bernie"

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Apr 25, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I thought it was called a "Swanson?"

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know if you remember the way he retired ...

but he took his last AB, singled, called time from first base, and announced his retirement. He was run for and, by the 3rd inning was eating a couple of sausages in the front row.

by hangingfromatree on Apr 25, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the way ...

baseball reference has his playing weight at 170lbs. FYI.

by hangingfromatree on Apr 25, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just his head

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions

by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah... in his bra!

that is hilarious if he was really listed at 170lbs

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Apr 25, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm 170

and Kruk’s ass was never less than 170

/shuddup

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm 199

and I have to tell you this… I felt like I could have fit two of me into one of Kruk last nigh.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

story of my sex life

wait, what?

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.

by hr on Apr 25, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

If you had been close enough

he might have tried.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I kept my distance...

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you had been close enough

he might have tried.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kept my distance...

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just go with an even 200

which gets you over the psychological century bar and you won’t feel so bad when it creeps to 205. I think I crossed 200 at age 34 and have spent a decade+ trying to scrape my way back down. Maybe I should give up an embrace Krukness?

by jjray on Apr 25, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure how I should feel about this comment.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you see the hat last night?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

turkey leg

he was gnawing on it during a segment on the pregame

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes...

that was in front of us also.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love John Kruk - he's the Charles Barkley of basbeball!!

and I love this bit from his Wikipedia listing:

“Moving to the American League to serve as a designated hitter, Kruk signed with the Chicago White Sox. He was effective with the White Sox, batting .308/.399/.390, but he was tired of the game and, as he told the Chicago Tribune, he wanted to spend the rest of the year “eating at the Sizzler’s buffet.”

My man!!!
:=8D

Griebenschmaltz!

by The MooCow on Apr 25, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chuck>>>Kruk

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was right under Big Mac land

Got there at 6:30 which meant no bobblehead for me

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 25, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

that stinks....

found two in their boxes inside a plastic bag left in the row in front of us when the family that was there scurried off in the rain… gave them to the two kids sitting in the row behind me that also showed up to late to get one.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

cotton candy

I approve

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Water was up in front of the house again this morning

so I called in. Wife’s school is out too due to road closings. A levee broke in Poplar Bluff and a portion of the city had to be evacuated. I think I’ve had enough of the rain now!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

you've got terrible weather luck lately

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sony's bluray Google TV player

It’s a Google Tv, dvd and bluray player, all on one input. I bought it for my dad and he loves it, no changing inputs or anything. 399.99. Details here

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 25, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

OH GOD SAY IT AIN'T SO SHELBY

@PBCardinals: Shelby Miller replaced in 5th inning with runner at second trailing 3-1. Miller walked 7 and threw 4 wild pitches…

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

According to Brian Walton:

“Pitches were low. Trainers came out during 2 inn but no inj reported”

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

over-throwing the ball or just loss of release point, do you think?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

there goes his FIP

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on Apr 25, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm gonna blame it on the fact that they were playing at 9:00 AM

who plays baseball at 9:00 AM??

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on Apr 25, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little League?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

They Mock VEB Day

Dynamic Deal of the Week

$66 LEGENDS CLUB IN JUNE

June 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 26th

by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 25, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

when is VEB day

I’ve never been and it sounds quite interesting

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 25, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

here's the fanpost about it

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/3/22/2066154/veb-day-2011-from-toronto-with-love

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Much obliged

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 25, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depending on the amount of people going

We ought to rent out a party suite

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 25, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

But since that is unlikely

I saw that the poll says all-inclusive seats, where is everyone planning on sitting, so I can buy my tickets?

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 25, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

the problem is that it's ~$2,500

and that doesn’t even include full food, just snacks (i think you get all the beer you want though). and someone would have to front it. and you can only bring a certain number of people into the suite.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 25, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suhweet

Gonna get these for the Friday game vs the Jays. What is better, the indoor or outdoor seating for the legends club?

by lopey986 on Apr 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great game last night

Our section went absolutely insane when Yadi hit that HR. On a related note, no Reds fans were harmed during the course of the game.

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 25, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

since their 2-6 start

the cardinals are 10-4. i’m cautiously optimistic about reversing my early season pessimism

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

So my boss today was like "the cardinals aren't very good this year

And I was like “ummm, wat?”

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 25, 2011 12:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

ya....

mine caught me in the break room… all he had to say was, so the cardinals lost on Saturday huh?

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Liked Yadi's little hand-slap dance when he crossed home plate...

..back in the day players used to slap each udders’ butts, guess they don’t do that anymoore. I’m sure Yadi was like “Don’t touch my butt, Puma…”

;=8)

Griebenschmaltz!

by The MooCow on Apr 25, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Yadi and Phillips should have a boxing match

Settle this once and for all. Yadi wins BP stops pretending to be an amazing player and realizes he’s worth a bag of balls and a fungo bat.

There is no scenario if Phillips wins, because that possibility doesn’t exist

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 25, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we stop pretending Brandon Phillips isn't a really good baseball player?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Probably a better one than Yadi

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

As hard as it is to measure defensive value in catchers, I suspect Phillips is definitely a better player than Yadi.

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

u serius

Chase Utley?
Dan Uggla?
Ian Kinsler?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Utley isn't healthy.

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assumed he meant if every player was healthy

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, I was leaving Utley out

my brain farted on Cano

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he doesn't get pink-eye.

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I get Uggla with the defensive spectrum considered

and the elimination of Uggla by the inclusion of the healthy hashtag….

I abhore the omission of Cano

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I forgot

Yeah Cano’s definitely on there

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take Phillips over Uggla and Kinsler.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What i f you could put theriot there and grab....

Reyes at short.

/ducks

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uggla's certainly debatable , sure

And I actually thought Kinsler was a lot younger than he was. But still, he’s younger than Phillips and is about equal in production

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he proves to be healthy. Which he hasn't since 2009.

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cano!

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, yeah!

Maybe Kinsler, but isn’t Phillips a better defensive second baseman than either Uggla or Kinsler?

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinsler needs a bounce-back year.

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinsler's metrics are better than I thought

but I’d still prefer Phillips

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer Kinsler...

as he is not an asshat

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just threw up a little.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flagged!

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by redbirdnation8206 on Apr 25, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

in much the same way that...

Yadier will embrace him while holding him down for porn-stache to beat with his mace!

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will Clark tried to kill Oquendo

and we all love Will, now

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was about ready to correct you...

because I read that as we all love Jack Clark.

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by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cano

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

For real? I mean - for real, for real?

I can’t believe this crazy talk. I would venture to say that Yadi’s likely the best defensive catcher ever. And it’s not like he doesn’t produce offensively. You people are spoiled.

by peppermartin on Apr 25, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

or you are under valuing it.

:Shrug: It’s one of the hardest things to actually put a value on.

Since 2006 (the year Phillips started playing with the Reds) he has put up 17.9 WAR.

In the same span Yadi has put up 12.5 WAR

Last three years still has Phillips edging out Yadi 10 to 9.4.

But eh, it’s so hard to compare the two positions.

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by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

stolen bases and beating out infield hits helps his WAR

But so does Yadi gunning him down at second.

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by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say a more accurate statement would be that the impact of catcher defense is hard to quantify

I mean, he’s a catcher for Pete’s sakes. To a large extent, he’s calling the game. He’s handling the pitchers. There’s a lot of intangibles there.

by peppermartin on Apr 25, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Er, whoever

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

or look at Laird!

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would disagree

but I also think it’s comparing apples to oranges.

In regards to Anderson, though, I remember watching in person him getting run over by Nyjer Morgan last year. And we’ve all seen what Yadi’s capable of when he’s crossed.

by peppermartin on Apr 25, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip to Phillips

is an upgrade 4.2 WAR. I wouldn’t call that a “marginal upgrade” It’s more akin to trading a Yugo in for a new Ferrari.

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by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marginal in the economic sense

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've looked at Phillps' numbers since the discussion of best 2nd basemen above, and he's not quite as good as I thought he was.

Still really good, though. It’s a question of how valuable a great defensive catcher is, and I’m not convinced it’s as much as the romanticist in me wishes.

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

But not the hazy defensive skill of managing a staff.

So, Molina could be even more valuable. Or, he could be less valuable.

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by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't trust catcher Def stats one bit. Isn't James coming out with new ones shortly?

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

How is their catcher defense quantified??

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caught stealing and passed ball runs

I think. We need the Rally signal.

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 25, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phillips' career high WAR is 2.3?

Wow. Fangraphs says his last four seasons’ WAR are all higher than that (5.2, 3.0, 3.0, 4.0)

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

We appear to be using whichever site fits our preconceived ideas now.

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

for position players i've always used fan graphs

but it does show the glaring problem with WAR as a stat.

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by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is this hand doing on my face!

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't even know for sure what it is

How can you say it’s better?

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And wouldn't using Yadi's B-Ref against Phillip's FG make more sense?

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

since when does anyone make sense around here?

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by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

How does that make sense

that would just be arbitarily picking whichever number makes Phillips look better.

What you should do is compare Yadier’s BR to the average of Phillips’ BR and FG.

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 25, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or, you using B-Ref would be arbitarily picking whichever number makes Yadi look better.

So lets use what makes each of them look best.

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I'm picking B-R for Yadi

because FG systematically underrates catcher defense, whereas the difference between B-R and FG for Phillips is a matter of (mostly) the difference between UZR and TZ, where one is not systematically superior but just different measurements.

Learn to read Fritz.

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 25, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

But you just now explained it.

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by spants on Apr 25, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

LEARN TO READ HIS MIND

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said it right above

“because B-R’s catcher metric is better” or something to that effect.

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 25, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I normally take all people at their word w/out explanation.

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That isn't explaining.

That’s opining.

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by spants on Apr 25, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

learning to read fritz can be a long and arduous process

but I think, as his sometimes-editor, that it’s eventually worthwhile.

by DanUpBaby on Apr 25, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I think I've got a pretty good read on Fritz

It’s not a pretty thing

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by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, that's entirely arbitrary

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

how so?

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 25, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

the better question is how is it not?

what’s the methodology behind just averaging two different implementations when we’re not entirely sure how they’re calculated and when the calculations behind them are dubious?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

AREN'T YOU SUPPOSED TO BE IN SCHOOL???

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Econ

Actually now I’m at home.

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 25, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, how is fangraphs a simplified version of what B-R uses

If Fangraphs implemented WAR first?

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by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 26, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

What does that have to do with anything?

I said FanGraphs catcher defense metric is a rudimentary version of B-R’s. Which came first doesn’t matter.

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 26, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I sort of think that you should just choose whatever defensive metric you think is better

And then use that WAR – So if you think catcher WAR is better, use B-R. If you think UZR is better than TZ, use Fangraphs.

So I don’t know why you can’t judge Molina’s B-R WAR to Phillips Fangraphs WAR since both have about equal offensive WAR (just assuming on this one)

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by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 26, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a fair position

But it’s not really clear if UZR or TZ is better. It is pretty clear that B-R catcher defense is better than FG catcher defense.

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 26, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Catcher defense metrics are inherently tricky

For instance, if Yadi gains a rep of mowing runners down, fewer people steal and he throws out fewer runners. He shouldn’t be punished for fewer outs and should be awarded for fewer attempts.

Also, certainly some pitchers are easier to steal on than others and I don’t know how you adjust for that.

Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.

by all4tookie on Apr 25, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

if he gains that rep, only the best base stealers try against him, and his CS% is artificially inflated

Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.

by all4tookie on Apr 25, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

But when comparing FanGraphs to B-R, B-R is always going to come out ahead because it factors in passed balls, and not just steals (among other things).

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 25, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

passed balls are going to be noisy, though

i’d prefer a stat that doesn’t rely on the whims of the official scorer

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by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would appear that Phillips has learned the art of accumulating an integer's worth of WAR

At least according to Fangraphs

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish we would.

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by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

the stadium last night was almost too loud during BP's at bats

for one of the smallest actual crowds that I have witnessed at Busch, to have that much noise…it almost seemed like some of the boos were coming from the PA system

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scoot said he saw The Hat on some guy on TV

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes I did

It was in much better shape than mine, even before the dog destroyed it

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by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE HAT!

damn it. why wasn’t this tweeted? I am not above THIEVERY!

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew it

I mentioned it in the game thread. Didn’t realize you were on twitter until this morning. I think the guy was down the first base line in one of the front rows. They panned to him and his family at some point in the later innings. Maybe the 8th, if anyone wants to waste time making a screenshot.

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by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know where to look next time

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE HAT?

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

One Hat to rule them all

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

in two weeks I have Legends Room tickets

it’s possible I will be drunk enough to make a tour of the stadium looking to steal someone’s HAT

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to need background on this hat meme

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by VolsnCards5 on Apr 25, 2011 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The HAT

might be too much for you to comprehend

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

since I'm not working

Someone frequently posts a picture of a large black man that is referred to as “The Cardinals cardinal” or something like that due to the ridiculous garb he wears. Somewhere in the foreground of this picture someone is wearing the hat in my avatar. The conversation always steers to the hat, which leads to a search of the internet to try to find the hat. But it cannot be found because it is no longer made. I remembered that I had the hat, found it, cleaned it up as best as I could, and had been wearing it during games, while working in my yard, etc. Unfortunately it got destroyed by the rogue dog that we had taken in. Matty really wants the hat and is apparently planning on stealing it off of someone’s head at a game.

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by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I like that hat

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by VolsnCards5 on Apr 25, 2011 1:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Someone post the picture of the guy

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by VolsnCards5 on Apr 25, 2011 1:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The googles do nothing

combos of “Pope” “Cardinals” “Saint Louis” cover a lot of ground.

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe I saw the gentleman on opening day...

and have a pic, however that pic is at home on my personal computer.

He was dressed as a cardinal, that is a cardinals fan.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He calls himself the Pope of Cardinals nation.

Or at least did the last time I talked to him, 2009 Playoffs.

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMVEBSTFY

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by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a hat which is very similar....

except it is all navy blue, and “antiqued”, fitted also

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have this same hat

It just doesn’t have the white panel.

by WizardofOz1982 on Apr 25, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did ask one if there was anywhere else we could look for new old stock

His response was “What do you want me to do? Chew up some cloth and thread and poop you a hat?”

I declined, as I told him I wouldn’t wear a Reds hat.

by RollBirdsRoll on Apr 25, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know how you feel about

caps with giant logos, but here is one with GibbyBird (as I call him).

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by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel Like i saw this hat very recently

at the mills mall in St. Charles. How much is it worth to you if someone on veb can hunt it down?

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 25, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 BILLION DOLLARS!

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

I’ll be adding this activity to my timecard.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 25, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had the sluggerbird on the left for a few years before it disintegrated.

Sluggerbird on the right is my current hat.

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I own Sluggerbird on the right, too.

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by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't feel bad.

I had to re-arrange my closet this weekend so that the Cardinals shirts were at the front and easily reachable. I had never counted them. Including jerseys, I have 61.

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by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly lacking in team gear

2 polos, 1 blank home jersey, 1 Rolen 2004 ASG jersey, 1 Pujols shersey, 1 VEB t-shirt.

4 hats

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got me.

I have a Willie McGee powder blue and two basic shirts.

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have about 20 and thought it was ridiculous.

I feel better now.

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by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy cow...

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

they have that bottom hat's logo on a really nice cloth jacket I want

I don’t wanna pay stadium prices though

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

was that the mitchell and ness jacket

in the front of the store?

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by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

I found it in one of the Fan Shops on the upper levels in RF

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was only $99

so it may have been too cheap to be a M & N

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

not the one I was thinking of

I don’t remember the exact price, but it was significantly higher than that.

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by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, this was all white

with the 67-97 logo on it

it might have had red piping

hell, it might have been a woman’s jacket

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That bottom one is my favorite.

I don’t generally wear hats, but if I did…

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

story of...

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe for my wife

we’ve been all through the bowels of the internets. If it’s out there, it’s in an obscure flea market next to a stack of 8 track tapes

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by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's no joke

I found that there’s all sorts of black-market MLB apparel in South America. My brother-in-law from Colombia showed up one day in a kick-ass all red Cardinals cap with a funky STL logo. When I asked where he got it, he just said “on the street.”

by peppermartin on Apr 25, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't have to stop pretending he's an

attention-whoring dumbass, do we? Wait……..

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Follow me on twitter: @SphericalPuma

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 25, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure his diatribe on Twitter usage

solidified that viewpoint. We don’t have to pretend he’s not because he’s admitted he is.

by WizardofOz1982 on Apr 25, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I laughed at the Twitter wars

It’s funny to watch Reds fans go back-and-forth with Cards fans. I never engaged in that war of words, because it’s just one big electronic pissing contest.

Follow me on twitter: @SphericalPuma

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 25, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would be nice if we could

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah they do.

Theriot was pretty emphatic about his.

I think the Cards tend not to. there may have been some grabbing incident in the past…

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally made it back to st. louis

Missed a great series and Easter dinner because of the storm. Could be worse, the guy I was traveling with had his car parked in the airport parking lot. Insurance will let him know soon if it’s totaled or not.

Glad to see the Cardinals taken care of the Reds. Also glad to see the Reds and the Brewers going at it now. Maybe we can put some distance on them this week.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

weird on a number of levels.

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never knew he had a daughter

let alone a cheerleader worthy daughter

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by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he had two daughters?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please, for thlove of GOB,

no one post the picture.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 25, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw.

You don’t wanna see Grim Reaper Rabbit again?

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on Apr 25, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

you rang?

P.S. I hate America

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by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you were TLR daughter

Would you really want anyone to know?

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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Apr 25, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh heh heh...
If she’s anything like her dad, Bianca will use five dancers on a four-dancer routine, move the worst dancer up to No. 7 in the dancing order and have Buzz Bissinger follow her around and write a deifying book about three days in the life of a cheerleader.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 25, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

classic

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did she come from him?

She’s hot.

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TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 26, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, the Cardinals now lead MLB in run differential

and are tied (with Cincinnati) for the lead in runs.

Our Pythag record is 14-8.

The fact that we have been unlucky so far and yet are still snug in first place leads me to be optimistic about this season.

by ViperLjs on Apr 25, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't call us unlucky

I would say that our bullpen was awful (reverse 2 of the 5 blown saves and our record is……14-8) and we didn’t hit much at all the first week of the season.

Now our bullpen is getting better and we’ve been the best run scoring team in the NL the last two weeks.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all honesty

I’d say we’ve been a bit LUCKY that our record is only 2 games below Pythag considering that we’ve lost 4 games in which we’ve had a lead of 2 or more runs.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW....

…and in a surreal meeting of my two favorite professional teams, Bianca La Russa, TLR’s daughter, is gonna be a Raiderette!!!

:=8D

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/25/tony-la-russas-daughter-is-an-oakland-raiders-cheerleader/

Griebenschmaltz!

by The MooCow on Apr 25, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

ctrl + F

“raiderette”

C’mon cow!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

just when I started respecting Tony a little bit more

I go and find out his daughter is named Bianca

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is Italian, afterall

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by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

still no excuse

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He likes fresh breath?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad jokes. Nothing but bad jokes.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually got that one.

I’m clueless on memes and sarcasm, but binaca jokes are an entirely different matter.

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I laughed more than I'd like to admit.

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was actually pretty good.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a pretty good joke

I am not sure what’s wrong with the name Bianca though.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 25, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

this?

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I personally like the paragraph that dusts off Cincy like the unsightly dandruff off my shoulders.

They need this so-called “rivalry” more than us. I do like it in the spirit of the game though, but it seems like TLR, Dunc, and company definitely have their number.

by martimeryard on Apr 25, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still 1 spot behind the Reds, which makes no sense

Cardinals have a better overall record, better head-to-head record, better run differential, and they are 7-3 in their last ten games to Cincinnati’s 3-7 mark over the same period.

By any rational measure the Cardinals are the superior team right now.

by ViperLjs on Apr 25, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

However

Beyond the Boxscore has us jumping all the way to #3. So, that’s awesome.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 25, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's just throw caution to the wind and get a good vibe going

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 25, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

this could be a special year!

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh! Sugar Bowl!

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fun Fact of the day

Eduardo Sanchez currently leads baseball with his 15.43 K/9 and lowest xFIP also with a 1.21

by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 25, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

0.4 WAR in only 7 IPs.

He’s like the opposite of Ryan Franklin.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

On

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update:
16.2 IP, 21 K, 9 BB/HBP, 4 ER, 2.27 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 25, 2011 1:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Crap

On my way to court to get this silly trespassing charge expunged from my record. Wish me luck

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update:
16.2 IP, 21 K, 9 BB/HBP, 4 ER, 2.27 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 25, 2011 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

don't steal a hat while you're there

 and good luck!

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silly

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Three quarters of my charges have been thrown out on account of zaniness.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has anyone done the roof tops at Wrigley?

I am going May 12th. All I know is that it’s all inclusive and I want to say the right field side, but I could be wrong…

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by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Make a sign for my birthday and get on tv

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might have to see what I can do

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by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wrong

apparently it’s here

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have

They are fun but the ball is tiny from that distance. And if you pay full price, you have to eat three meals and drink well past drunk to get value out of it. But you get a bleacher experience without the bleacher fans, which can be a plus.

by mikey_mac on Apr 25, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time not drinking well past drunk

I paid $109

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the weather is nice, you'll have a great time

and if it’s not, you’re still getting to see the Cards. and drink til you’re well past drunk.

by mikey_mac on Apr 25, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

in general, though, rooftops are best for large groups

who have limited interest in the game, and just want an all-inclusive party

by mikey_mac on Apr 25, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

as opposed to most people in the actual stadium?

I’ll be in a group of about 20

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by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, the rooftop venues really are set up for "mingling"

much more so than a row or rows of seats at the stadium, at least

by mikey_mac on Apr 25, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

Stanton’s HR yesterday was only 420?

http://www.hittrackeronline.com/detail.php?id=2011_561&type=hitter

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you see the video!?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was one helluva lined shot

I’ve seen shots in the upper deck at that stadium that they list under 450

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well the wall was probably only 420 feet away

Can’t account for the fact that the ball was still going up when it hit it.

by mojowo11 on Apr 25, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

smoke weed every day

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

For Gods Sake, Man!
G Turner: Gordo:

The young power arms look good in Boggs/Motte and Sanchez. Who goes down when Tallett and Augenstein return? Tallett is in due to being a lefty. Bad news for Salas or Sanchez?

Jeff Gordon: One of them returns to Memphis to resume closing there. As good as Sanchez has been, he is new to major league baseball. He hasn’t build an extensive Class AAA track record either. He would be an easy player to return to the minors for more seasoning.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

that would... depress me.

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we really need Tallet? We're doing okay with just Miller...

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget who our field manager is.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just hoping Salas keeps impressing...

Either way, next year our bullpen should be very good.

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Salas has looked great and Sanchez has looked even better than Salas.

Sadly, though, one will go down because they both have options.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's just fucking stupid.

I understand it, but that’s just a dumbass move.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not calling you stupid,btw.

Just the situation, if it happens.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this not what everyone is expecting though?

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think Salas before Sanchez...

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I may agree with this

But I think it’s gotta be one of those two that goes

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

As smitten as Tony is with him, no.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Sanchez has actually been getting leveraged situations

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forget about it Fritz, it's Gordo's Zone

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Since when do we take Jeff Gordon seriously?

I don’t know if there is a less reputable figure in the Saint Louis media. I’d say relax…if anyone is out its Salas, I’m still holding out hope for Franky’s departure, though.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 25, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, that was only to point out his continued idiocy.

Believe me, nothing about him is to be taken seriously.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone has to be able to sneak a crowbar into the stadium

c’mon, Spants!

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB: Too classy to wish harm for Brandon Phillips, but not too classy to wish hard for our own.

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

-1.1 WAR!

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1.1 WBR!

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Glass half Franklin.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

a very good way to put it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted her to use it on Tony's eye

way to jump to conclusions!

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

As if Tony's eye didn't have enough problems!!!

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted her to use it to make things less painful for Tony

and to make sure he can see how awesome Sanchez has been

/thinks Tony actually has this figured out already, but also has limited faith in Mo

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure...

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor

and would have different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you said hard

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by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I don't know how I managed that one. D and M aren't even close on the keyboard.

Probably something to do with the child in my lap dancing to “C is for Cookie.”

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This excuse...
yeah, I don’t know how I managed that one. D and M aren’t even close on the keyboard.
Probably something to do with the child in my lap dancing to "C is for Cookie."

It is good enough for me.

'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow.'"

by Red Blazer on Apr 25, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

This is Gordon, it means absolutely nothing.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 25, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that's the point. I thought you knew me better than that.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn't you I was worried about.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 25, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

why is he employed?

As far as i can tell, he has no sources or inside information of any kind. His responses are about as informative as reading the pd forums. Especially with how cash-strapped newspapers are nowadays, youd think gordon would be a easy fire.

by ViperLjs on Apr 25, 2011 3:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know, his BABIP is enormous, he isn't walking much, and he still strikes out lots

No way he can keep this up.
Wait…

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 25, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the first time that I've ever been glad to know

that Jeff Gordon doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dark Chocolate is God Tier

White chocolate anything is shit tier.

by RollBirdsRoll on Apr 25, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

fixed

Dark White Chocolate is God Tier

White Dark chocolate anything is shit tier.

"Defense is important to this team," second baseman Skip Schumaker said.

by Hootie Who on Apr 25, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong.

White chocolate isn’t even chocolate.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it is delicious.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes.

Askinosie Chocolate has AMAZING white “chocolate.”

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

a peanut is neither a pea nor a nut.

"Defense is important to this team," second baseman Skip Schumaker said.

by Hootie Who on Apr 25, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we aren't discussing legumes.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Family never knows what to get me for my b/d.

This year, I got a pile of very nice dark chocolate bars. Oh yeah.

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on Apr 25, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I buy the dark chocolate Kit Kats

they’re pretty good. But I still like Mounds better, as far as dark chocolate goes.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 25, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

dark chocolate reminds me of the cubs

because it sucks

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by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll just have another Snickers egg, please

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by STLRegalia on Apr 25, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hat off days.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   5 recs

all this hat talk is getting to me

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, that wasn't on purpose? I need to unrec.

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

doh...

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

freudian slip

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

+e, +1

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 25, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a dream that I met Ryan Franklin

and I was telling him about Pitch F/X and how it shows he’s been getting nothing on his curveball. Then we went to Chili’s and he got a huge thing of ribs and didn’t share any with me.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on Apr 25, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

exactly

i think it was my subconscious telling me that Ryan Franklin hates me personally.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.

by purple_haze on Apr 25, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why else would he have inflicted so much pain on you this season?

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't share my ribs with you either

Don’t take it personally, I wouldn’t share it with anybody really, it’s motherfucking ribs we’re talking about.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

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by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 26, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

granted, I haven't been looking at many, lately.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

this one has excellent resolution.

you can SEE the crazy

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

....DON'T LOOK STRAIGHT AT IT.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert'a follow-through

is a thing of nigh-indescribable beauty

So many of those pictures are all kinds of awesome.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Apr 25, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that would be "Albert's"

i know little of this Albert’a person, or his/her follow-through.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Apr 25, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're probably a Canadian Klingon

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

this picture is awesome

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1104/mlb.verduccci.most.intriguing.players/content.3.html

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.

by hr on Apr 25, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it me, or does Theriot seem, like... needy.

not puppy-needy like Boog, but needy like he’s Orlando Bloom and he just did Lord of the Rings, so he needs as many high-fives as possible, and also every opportunity to lounge around to get the best light on his features.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

not the eye!!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, possibly.

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

part of me thinks it's PCTD

post-Cubs traumatic disorder
but
that can’t explain all of it, IMO

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

What does that picture have to do with Theriot?

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And here,

wait, why isn’t everyone lining up to congratulate me? sniff, sniff

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah see, they feelin' it

quantumlike

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you hear him in his pre-game interview last night?

Whoever the report was told him that Tony compared him to David Eckstein, to which Theriot replied “well I think I’m a lot better looking than Eckstein”…..speaking of Eckstein, did he retire or what?

by mick311 on Apr 25, 2011 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

heh, that's really funny.

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

here's an earlier

version

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Mo working in real estate during off days?

http://scottrovak.zenfolio.com/dailys/h1fdadd4f#h1fdadd4f

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr. Potter can afford it

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got the shingles real bad, almost didn't graduate...

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

dated your sister until you told me not to anymore...

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

did the whistling belly-button trick at the high school talent show?

BING!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Apr 25, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch out for that first step it's a dooooooozy!

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drumming up funds to sign Albert

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 25, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was trying to figure out a way to post that without baiting

heh heh heh

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

dingdangolesneezingjustwheniwannacatchtheball

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 25, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait. Albert's says ALBERT PUJOLS and has his face on it.

Yadi’s says THE FINEST IN … (something) and says Gold Glove Award where Albert’s has his mug. ???

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on Apr 25, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it does mean the same thing.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 25, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

remember two weeks ago

When everyone was sure that Batista would be the closer if Franklin was removed from the position?

Sometimes change is good.

"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.

by Evilfrog on Apr 25, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice spelling, Boggsy.

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by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I laughed

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by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 26, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, what?

From MLBTradeRumors

Rosenthal discussed Prince Fielder in his Full Count video on Saturday and has a bit more today. The FOX writer spoke to agent Scott Boras, who talked up Fielder’s “flexibility, dexterity, and athleticism,” noting that his small strike zone gives him an advantage.

Original link to Rosenthal.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 25, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

His width also makes him an asset

as he doesn’t have to move as much to his right or left to cover ground in the infield.

Nobody is better at inventing bullshit reasons their clients are “unique” than Scott Boras.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how he played up the size of Holliday's head?

Look at how big Matt’s head is. Big head, big brain. He’s got the most baseball sense of anyone in the league. Newton’s First Law of Motion indicates that he’ll be great at sliding headfirst.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 25, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Actually

it was a very similar line to the one used above. He talked about his “unorthodox” workouts at Boras’ own Sports Science Institute, something about hip adductor flexibility or some such crap.

While I’m sure that there is an element of truth to some of this, I always look back and see that guys back in the ’50’s got by on jogging, running steps, and throwing the ol’ medicine ball around. And, that’s probably the best training you could do today, in reality, especially if you’re a pitcher.

I am looking forward to the rest of the Boras playbook in the upcoming months:

  1. How baseball teams keep all kinds of income “off the books” to make themselves look less solvent than they are.
  2. How his client is worth $XXX even though there is a better player who plays the exact same position likely to be on the market.
  3. Drumming up the price by giving out some “ghost offers” that other teams are floating out there.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 25, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember tht booklet he put together about Ollie Perez,

Pointing out the similarity between his first few years and the first few years of Koufax- and we can all agree that those two careers turned out exactly the same.

http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz

by hazel on Apr 25, 2011 9:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

jose bautista is awesome.

2011 is already tied for the second best season of his career by fWAR. My favorite part of his breakout is that his big revelation was to do exactly what traditionalists hate the most and try to pull the ball for a home run every time out.

by DanUpBaby on Apr 25, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like it so far, yeah

Great story

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa whoa whoa

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

So we play soon right

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

why would you say such a thing

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, did anything come out of the Shelby start?

Injured, or what?

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

god i hate this week. why can't this semester be over already?

plus side is that i started and finished an 8-page term paper in a little over an hour. now i only have to spend the rest of the night studying for a math test tomorrow

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

“Right now, it sounds like day to day,” said Mozeliak, who said that Pujols hadn’t even come in for treatment today.
“It does not sound like anything alarming,” Mozeliak said.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/cardinal-beat/article_9907a80a-6f6f-11e0-b7fa-0019bb30f31a.html

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

very convenient time for an off day.

by BTown Birds fan on Apr 25, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wooohooo

Charges dismissed. Record expunged. Free at last!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update:
16.2 IP, 21 K, 9 BB/HBP, 4 ER, 2.27 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 25, 2011 6:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

popeye's chicken

best fast food or best fast food?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

This

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that's against the rules

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really damned good.

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on Apr 25, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not even best fast food chicken

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. Who's better?

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on Apr 25, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohmygosh

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update:
16.2 IP, 21 K, 9 BB/HBP, 4 ER, 2.27 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 25, 2011 8:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I love bojangles

My iPhone and me are about to fight

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update:
16.2 IP, 21 K, 9 BB/HBP, 4 ER, 2.27 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 25, 2011 8:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lee's

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Church's is good, but Popeye's is better.

I probably haven’t been to a Lee’s in 10 years.

My go-to place is King Edwards on Watson, but that isn’t a fast food chain.

Boog might've. Who's to say, really? With the extraordinary number of variables to account for, Boog very well mightn't've.

by The Continental on Apr 25, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fried Chicken will kill ya

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Apr 25, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll die happy.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 25, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never actually enjoyed fast food fried chicken.

And fried chicken is one of my favorite things in the world.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm disappointed in almost all of you

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fast food chicken is pretty meh.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true.

Though there are times when it is a need thing.

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

and tonight, i need time more than i need a healthy meak

fast food it is

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 25, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahem

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 25, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

(spants doesn't like Chick-fil-A)

BURN HER

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Oh yeah)

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 25, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And for the record,

Raising Canes kicks Chick-fil-a’s ass.

Every day and twice on Sunday.

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

no no no no no no

Raising Canes is incredibly overrated. So bland.

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

LIKE CHICK-FIL-A

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you find Chick-fil-A to be bland, then we have no common ground here

You’d probably love Raising Canes

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also find CFA to taste like, well, chicken.

They hide it better with pickles (which I don’t eat) and butter.

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never even heard of Raising Canes.

And if you like Chick-Fil-A because it’s less bland than Raising Canes, then why would I like Raising Canes?

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Canes started in Baton Rouge

and is slowly moving north – like armadillos

by oldchap on Apr 25, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

or kudzu

Except Cane’s is freeze resistant.

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

I dunno

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

they have one in fort collins

and I was beyond excited about the idea of a place devoted entirely to chicken fingers. but it could not have been more disappointing.

by DanUpBaby on Apr 25, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remain unimpressed with them.

And that got that dumbass pickle randomly on the chicken.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 26, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

The pickle makes the sandwich!

Then add a little hot sauce. Perfect. Simple.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 26, 2011 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on Apr 25, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually agree as well

Though I’m a Chick-Fil-A booster as evidenced above, it’s not like it’s better than food that I or my dad could make. I just crave certain kinds of fast food once in a while, and Chick-Fil-A is one of them.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 26, 2011 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

better than KFC

Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.

by tehzachatak on Apr 25, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what,

I’m going to risk the wrath of all of VEB here and say that of all the chains, I prefer KFC. Lee’s is good too, but I never really cared much for Popeye’s, too spicy. What I really like is home style, pan-fried chicken but no chain I’ve ever tried cooks it that way.

by ArkansasTravs on Apr 25, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If I need fried chicken quickly,

I usually pick some up from Schnucks or Dierbergs. Dierbergs has “picnic style” fried chicken that is pretty damn good. Josh loves it and he LOVES eating fast food fried chicken.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Diebergs isn't awful.

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if I had a Dierbergs around here,

I’d try it. Actually, there is a drive-in in my hometown that makes “broasted” chicken. I think it’s pressure cooked in oil. It’s pretty good but I still like the homemade, rolled in flour type.

by ArkansasTravs on Apr 26, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

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by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 26, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

There isn't a fast food fried chicken that I won't eat

I don’t make a habit of it, but I find it all tasty enough to eat. KFC is still probably at or near the bottom of that list, though.

Also, I went to Virginia Beach back in January and found a Hardee’s there that still sells fried chicken

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by jd is legend on Apr 25, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hardees was pretty good back in the day, at least in my memory.

KFC give me the [BEEP]

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ever been to Stroud's in KC?

Pretty awesome if you want home style pan fried chicken and good side dishes.

by WizardofOz1982 on Apr 25, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Howie Kendrick finally going to put it all together this season?

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

True story

when i went to my first and only baseball game at Angel Stadium, me and my brother were considering buying T-Shirt Jerseys as souvenirs (by the by, we didn’t get any. I did however get a kicking Manny Ramirez Dodgers one, which is extra cool now that he’s retired). We were approached by a very friendly guy who told us, in great detail, about how AMAZING Kendrick was and how he had him in all of his fantasy teams and how he was going to win the triple crown and was the best thing ever. Obviously at the time i had no f’n clue who Kendrick was. But looking back on his stats from 2008, i’m gonna hazard a guess that this dude did not win his fantasy league.

But anyway; Howie Kendrick is currently a younger Skip Schumaker, with a few more decent seasons under his belt. His 2011 line looks very promising thus far. Especially the HRs, but that could just be a product of the Angels’ ‘Swing at anything’ philosophy.

you're

by Aranathor on Apr 25, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

How'd that weekend retreat end up going?

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

very well thanks

We had such a good time together, easily some of the best few days i’ve had. Its strange how this has turned into a stable potentially long-term relationship so fast (at least thats how it feels for me).

you're

by Aranathor on Apr 25, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great to hear

Haven’t had many opportunities to do that lately… hopefully, she gets the job she interviewed for, and KC decides to start paying me sooner than later

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

good luck to y'all.

How’s the wedding planning going?

you're

by Aranathor on Apr 25, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good, I think

I’m not freaking out as much as I feel like I should be, which either means it’s going well or I’m vastly underestimating how much we actually need to do haha

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by mysterui on Apr 25, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well at least your not panicking

just remember to say ‘i do’ on the big day and you should be golden

you're

by Aranathor on Apr 25, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? he's going to try to do me?

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe, but Aranathor recommends that he try to do better.

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, duh. Aim high!

"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Apr 25, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remembering to breathe

when she walks through the doors and you get the first look at her in her wedding dress is by far the most important advice I can give you. Please don’t pass out like my best friend did in his wedding.

by WizardofOz1982 on Apr 25, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Important advice here.

Seriously. I would also recommend remembering to not drop your jaw on the floor.

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is also good.

Slack jawed awestruck stares don’t photograph well at all.

by WizardofOz1982 on Apr 25, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keeping you knees bent helps as well.

You tend to wobble more if you lock your knees.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 25, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's probably going fine. Enjoy the whole process.

Once in a lifetime deal!

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 25, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Getting married for the first time definitely happens just once

Though, the amount of alcohol consumed and proximity to a Vegas wedding chapel might make one forget which wedding it actually is.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 26, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

No shit, Spantsy! But each one is unique.

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 26, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I have faith in myster and myss Rui!

7-2-5! Craig to Yadi to Descalso!
I am out of the closet as a member of the St. Louis Riot, 2011.

by a fink on Apr 26, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

May have been

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update:
16.2 IP, 21 K, 9 BB/HBP, 4 ER, 2.27 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 25, 2011 8:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

May have been posted

Shelby miller was awful today. 4.1 IP, 7 BB, 4 k, 4 wild pitch 1 hit batter

God please don’t be hurt

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update:
16.2 IP, 21 K, 9 BB/HBP, 4 ER, 2.27 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 25, 2011 8:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Ugh

Just saw the thread above…still bad

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update:
16.2 IP, 21 K, 9 BB/HBP, 4 ER, 2.27 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 25, 2011 8:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sprint VEBers:

Anyone know when the Nexus S is going to be released?

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I haven't read a confirmed date.

But I believe I read that Sprint employee training for the Nexus S has begun. I’d wager it’s out mid-May.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the vibe I've gotten

Don’t know whether to wait and see or go out Sunday and upgrade anyway to an Evo or Evo Shift.

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would not upgrade to those phones yet.

They’re basically outdated. Either hang in there for the Nexus S – especially if you want a stripped down Android experience – or wait for the EVO 3D.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not interested in the 3D camera stuff.

But that’s optional. The upgraded hardware and software is where it’s at for me.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

The upgrades are nice and if the 3D is not required, maybe I’ll wait.

I’m still gonna look at the Nexus. My refurb’ed Pearl is having issues (after the original Pearl just stopped).

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god.

They’ll all seem magical to you coming from that!

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tend to get the amazed looks from staff when I upgrade.

The last time the sales guy said: “I didn’t know any of those still worked!”

by TBender on Apr 25, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol my Dad upgraded from an old, old Motorola flipphone

to an iPhone 4 a couple of months ago and got the same reaction.

by WizardofOz1982 on Apr 25, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You two (TB and Wiz's dad) sound like me

I’m still using a flip phone. I really don’t have much desire for an I-phone. I use my phone to make calls and send texts, I use a computer for web surfing, etc.

I also held on to my old bag phone forever. They could hardly keep from laughing in the store when I brought it in to upgrade to my first real cell phone.

by ArkansasTravs on Apr 26, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dad was that way too.

Until I showed him that he could order gems on the web while we were on the road and have them waiting for us on Mondays when we got back to restock.

by WizardofOz1982 on Apr 26, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, gang,

I put together a Late Night VEB thread.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 25, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

You rock.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Apr 25, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

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