Murray Chass, Stan Musial, and Blogging
by DanUpBaby on Mar 25, 2011 3:04 AM EDT
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Murray Chass is not a blogger [1], which is fine with me. He is a writer of internet-based columns, which is what I thought blogging was, and recently he put his foot in his mouth without doing any research, which is definitely what bloggers often do, but I'm willing to allow him to identify himself.
I'm not willing to push traffic in his direction, because if he's not a blogger he's definitely a troll, which is one of those words we bloggers use. So allow me to summarize the content of his latest controversial internet column, which is available at his WordPress-based, reverse-chronologically ordered internet column aggregator, which you could find in the Readers' Guide to Periodical Internet Literature.
Stan Musial recently was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, but it turns out he is "NO MAN OF HONOR, MR. PRESIDENT." Chass was recently talking to Marvin Miller, and they got to talking about a time when Curt Flood and a host of black teammates were apparently turned out from Stan Musial's restaurant for being black. A "lawyer with no first-hand knowledge of the incident"—this is at least more information than we get about a typical unnamed source—relates that "Musial tried to organize a boycott against playing" the Dodgers if Jackie Robinson were on the team.
Unfortunately, the headline of this column isn't "MURRAY CHASS HAS CONVERSATION WITH MARVIN MILLER", because I don't doubt that they spoke, and I don't doubt that Miller told the story. It's not "UNNAMED LAWYER WITH NO FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE INCIDENT MISTAKES STORY ABOUT ENOS SLAUGHTER FOR STORY ABOUT STAN MUSIAL", either, because that would also be accurate.
There are two versions of the Curt Flood story in circulation, and my guess is that Marvin Miller read one of them a long time ago. One of them comes from Curt Flood himself—you can find it here, if you search for the words "famous restaurant" inside the book. In it, Flood (with a girlfriend, not other players) isn't seated, asks Musial about it, and then "Musial turned livid. He said he'd look into it. I never raised the topic with him again, nor did he with me." Later Flood returns to the restaurant and is treated with an especially unctuous deference.
In another, Stan Musial tells a reporter in 1971 that what actually happened was that Musial had to turn Flood away because, "Our kitchen closes at twelve thirty... I was the one who told him he couldn't come in, and I told him the reason why. I felt bad about it because he was a friend - and a teammate - but I've had to do the same thing many times."
I'd like to thank Baseball Think Factory internet-letter-to-the-editor-writers DCW3 and Vlad for digging those up on this thread. Neither of these sounds remotely like the story Chass is telling; a newspaper editor would probably have had him fact-check it, especially when he mentions the girlfriend story but says that it "didn't come directly from Flood." If it didn't come directly from Flood Chass should write a vicious piece on author Peter Golenbock, who heads the story with CURT FLOOD: and encloses it in quotation marks.
We go on to learn that in 1946 Stan Musial didn't join the renegade Mexican League; was named to a committee to create the resulting pension plan by the owners, and not the players; and that Marvin Miller, surprisingly enough, did not like the resulting plan.
From one veteran internet columnist to a hard-working newbie: Being on the internet means bloggers are free of externally imposed standards—they swear, for instance, when Chass "spent [his] professional time in the print world, where obscenities don't see the light of day."
That doesn't mean there aren't any standards; it means you have to have your own. It's taken me a while to figure mine out—I started when I was an angry high school student, so they're very different than they used to be—but there are a few things I wouldn't consciously do, precisely because the medium is unpoliced. What you write doesn't reflect on an institution anymore—it reflects exclusively, and occasionally paralyzingly, on you.
I wouldn't report third-hand, defamatory gossip as hand-to-god news. I wouldn't report an anecdote without at least googling it. I wouldn't put a hit piece out on one of the most respected athletes in the history of American sports because a famous friend of mine and some lawyers heard some stories that I could verify myself.
"I have made mistakes occasionally in my Web site columns -- fortunately very few -- and I correct them. I don't know that bloggers acknowledge and correct their mistakes." - Murray Chass
Some of us don't, some of us do.
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I read this earlier and it's amazing
Chass is like a little kid who heard Marvin Miller say something and interpreted like he wanted to hear it. He heard him say – in his own mind obviously (not claiming Miller didn’t say what he said, but what Miller said was far from what Chass was claiming) – that Musial was a racist and got so excited that he could make a blog post to make himself feel relevant again.
Forget journalistic integrity for a second. What kind of person do you have to be to want to ruin the legacy of one of the greatest human beings in sports just so you can have your moment of fame. Obviously he jumped the gun so that means that he was so thrilled to have unearthed such a secret that he immediately posted what he heard because he wanted to be the one to ruin the legacy. Why?
Did he honestly look as his “evidence?” He either didn’t look over it (Hmmm… bashing a man celebrated for his good character… and not bothering to make sure you have some sense of evidence) or decided he didn’t give a fuck and really wanted the spotlight (In which case, fuck you Murray Chass)
Chass is both a terrible journalist blogger and a terrible human being.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 25, 2011 4:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The only legacy he is ruining is his own
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 25, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate it when jokes get ruined.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Mar 25, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wait
Murray Chass has a legacy now? I think you better check your sources on that….
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
a legacy of...
negligence, in which case he is furthering his legacy!
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
he wrote that with the intent of ruining his legacy though
obviously failed completely
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 25, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You like American Beauty?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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YES!
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 26, 2011 5:16 AM EDT up reply actions
i have no idea how he read what he wrote before hitting the publish button
and didn’t see it was factually grasping at straws, nevermind the bad writing
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
i've never heard of this douchenozzel till reading the comments yesterday
but anyone that says a bad thing about Stan, especially this bad, obviously has a special place in hell reserved for themselves
way to put him in his place Dan
Balls
by gdm426 on Mar 25, 2011 5:11 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Excellent
especially because it goes right to the heart of the matter, which is journalistic standards. Chass despises bloggers and is very proud of having written for the NYT (which itself is sort of odd, since that organization’s motto for decades has been “All the news that’s fit to print, plus, oh, yeah, some sports on the back page”); but since the Times let him go he has repeatedly demonstrated that all that set him apart from the worst sort of amateur was his editor.
Chass isn’t a writer, in any medium; he’s a hack who recognizes no higher standard than conformity to the Times style sheet.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
Speaking of the NYT
Mets Are Said to Be Suffering Sizable Losses
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Greene 6, Pujols 3, Holliday 9, Berkman 7, Freese/Craig 5, Molina 2, pitcher, The Riot 4
Thanks for the summary
I didn’t want to look it up and give the jackass any pageviews.
Best caption ever.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Mar 25, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Quite Possibly.
Although I’m not sure if I enjoyed it as much as the close up of RA Dickey with “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!” as the caption.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 25, 2011 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here is a wizard.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 25, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter
by TBender on Mar 25, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Still so mad that that picture disappeared.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
before knowing the story
i read the caption and wondered what the hell happened with danup
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
so Showtime is making a reality series about the Giants
where’s our damn reality show? oh right, can’t have one, cause we’re the most serious clubhouse in baseball..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
but at least we are punctual
Also, have you meet Wainwright?
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
has having a reality show ever worked out for a team?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
The Jets finally beat the Colts!
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Mar 25, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Hate to tell you this
But even if the team wasn’t “serious,” they wouldn’t want a reality series based in fly-over-country-St. Louis.
My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter
Well, the producers could make one hell of a storyline out of Pujols' contract.
We’d hate it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
so you're saying you can't milk the will alber sign drama
for a whole season of a show?
espn will prove that’s wrong, i bet
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
There would be one episode.
Then a lawsuit after CDGAF and he broke provided technical support for the cameras.
Ok, I’d watch that.
My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter
speaking of APu contract drama...
there is a hot rumor that Albert recently (or is in the process of doing so) purchased Kevin Gamble’s old house on Lake Springfield, IL. How does this relate to Albert’s contract? I don’t know, but someone just told me that as if it was BIG NEWS!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
basketball player.
I think retired, but I don’t really keep up with that stuff.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
bounced aroud with a few teams in the Association
Went to Iowa and Lanphier High School in Springfield
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Maybe he's just a huge Lanphier fan and thinks of buying Gamble's house as we would buying a game worn jersey.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
He's just here for the horseshoes, mang.
I can’t see any other reason why he’d move here…
Let's Go Blues!
Support your local NAHL team. Seriously.
by Paperwork Ninja on Mar 28, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Definitely
It’s kind of unfortunate for us commenters. The article is so well-done I don’t feel like I could add anything to the topic at hand.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Yeah all we've got is summarizing it
Stan is win. Fuck Murray chase he’s a liar!(and a blogger)
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 25, 2011 10:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So Tulo is asking for people to vote for his walk-up song
According to the Denver post. Here are the options:
• Katy Perry – Firework
• Justin Bieber – Baby (ft. Ludacris)
• Ke$ha – We R Who We R
• Chris Brown – Yeah 3x
I’m no pop music expert, but isn’t the idea of him walking up to Bieber pretty funny?
i suddanly prefer Theriot over Tulo as our shortstop
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
by Evilfrog on Mar 25, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Since when do you care about misspellings???
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't really
but if I catch them right as a type them, I can avoid people correcting me and then I don’t have to drive out to their house and consume their soul.
Lot less paperwork this way.
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
Interesting.
I wouldn’t think that soul consumption would require that much paperwork.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
not back in the good ol days
the bureaucrats ruin everything.
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
never
i don’t care if Tulo walks up to madonna and vogues before his every atbat
superior shortstop is superior
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
by d-dee on Mar 25, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
actually
he he vogued before every at bat that would be pretty fucking awesome.
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
by Evilfrog on Mar 25, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, that'd rule.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Skip already does something similar with his batting gloves.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Always
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsvTZCE_v0KnezzwO1hAEp2gi_0Khk7uUKcQLLczwaPcLHVSX7
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 25, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
NSFW!!
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Mar 25, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If he did that
He’d be José Reyes, and we hate that guy.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
but it's the most exciting hate in the world
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 25, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
it seems like tulo
just has a popular song as his walk-up every year, almost as if it’s for the fans and not him.
EH #2
FIRE JOHN MOZELIAK.
by zoomzoomj88 on Mar 25, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Unpopular opinion
Biebs gets way too much flak. He’s actually somewhat talented
You know those YouTube comments that are like “How is this person not famous when Justin Bieber’s making millions?!”
He was literally one of those people until he got discovered
I don’t know why I just spent 5 minutes defending Bieber but eh
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Mar 25, 2011 9:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I've never heard one of his songs but he doesn't seem to take himself seriously in the couple of times he's showed up on a TV program I was watching.
So I’ve got no beef with him.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
(I've never heard a Kedollarsignsha or chris brown song, either and have only heard Katy Perry on SNL, so this clearly is not aimed at my demographic.)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
fritz quoted glee
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
never seen an episode.
what did i quote?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
"Ke dollar sign ha"
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
braintwins with glee. yay.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
you might want to just go ahead & kill yourself now
at least try & save yourself some of the embarrassment when this info get out
Balls
I think I will be okay.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
it's Fritz
I’d be shocked if there aren’t hundreds of things he has done that are much more embarrassing than this.
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
The only thing that truly embarrases me anymore is when I cook a bad meal.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
but I need a ride to RR's wedding reception
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Mar 25, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
just like rui's mom!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Mar 25, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why you--
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Yeah. I gave up caring what anyone thinks of me about a decade ago.
I’ve never seen the show but I have a lot of friends with really good senses of humor that like it. Actually, I think everyone turned on it this year.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
first scene of this episode
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I actually saw a pretty funny segment with him on ESPN
It was about Tom Brady’s hair. I came away impressed with Justin Bieber.
I would not be surprised if Bieber ends up like Justin Timberlake. For one thing, they’re both singers named Justin. So I’m halfway there. The other half would be Bieber’s eventually evolution from annoying singer of girly music to actually sorta talented guy who people aren’t afraid to like anymore. It’s the SNL effect, I guess.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
he did a skit with Jon Stewart where they did like a Freaky Friday thing and switched bodies
it was awkward and not funny, but it was good to see him give it the ol’ college try!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Sometimes you need to do a few bad sketches on the way to painting your masterpiece
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I think Jimmy Fallon is still working on that...
same with the entirety of the current SNL staff.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah, it doesn't work for everybody...
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
needs more cowbell.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 25, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
craaaaap
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 25, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
That is wonderful play on words.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
okay fess up
how many of you named your kid Justin
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 25, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Now all he has to do is date and dump Hottica Biel.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
bacause you share the same hair
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
by d-dee on Mar 25, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Bieber is more than somewhat talented
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
Thanks mysterui
you and Fang should be expecting some free backstage passes soon!
I've totally got Pujols Fever! LOL
by Justin VEBer on Mar 25, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have no issue with Justin Bieber the person
I have a huge issue with Justin Bieber: The Entertainment Enigma That Continues To Be Force Fed Down Our Throats Because Pre-Teen Girls Think He’s Cute. I could say the same thing about The Jonas Brothers, Hannah Montana, etc. All those people have talent, but they get put on this multimedia pedestal that’s impossible to live up to, then they fizzle out as soon as the next big thing comes along.
There are musicians that make really great music (Kings of Leon, Arcade Fire, & The Decemberists come to mind) that get lost in the shuffle of the mainstream media because they don’t look like a teen model wearing the same clothes that Michael Jackson wore in 1985 and have a cute haircut. The huge resentment in the MSM over the Arcade Fire closing the Grammy’s while simultaneously praising the Usher/WillSmith’sKid/Bieber whateverthefuckthatwas in the middle of the show goes to show that it’s easier for the MSM to just give people what they want instead of trying to turn them on to what they might like. I used to like Rolling Stone magazine. Now they put Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber on the cover to sell magazines and then write retread stories about Bruce Springsteen and The Rolling Stones that have been written 900 times over to keep their older fanbase. As someone who just turned 31, there isn’t a mainstream music mag that even appeals to me anymore.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
i'd just like to say
in response to this:
I have a huge issue with Justin Bieber: The Entertainment Enigma That Continues To Be Force Fed Down Our Throats Because Pre-Teen Girls Think He’s Cute. I could say the same thing about The Jonas Brothers, Hannah Montana, etc. All those people have talent, but they get put on this multimedia pedestal that’s impossible to live up to, then they fizzle out as soon as the next big thing comes along.
I’ve yet to hear one of his songs, or see one of his videos.
As far as the Grammy’s go….
“Hey, don’t throw your garbage up here!”
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
But you know who he is, don't you?
That’s really my point: If you’ve never listened to his music or never seen one of his videos, should you really even know who he is, much less have formed an opinion or expectation of him?
For instance, I’m probably one of the few people who knew about Mumford & Sons prior to the Grammys. But those who didn’t know who they were got introduced to them by their music, albeit a short, interrupted performance. Which I’m guessing is how they want it.
The problem with MSM darlings like Bieber is that you don’t even have a chance to form your own opinion of him based on his own talent before you get deluged with the opinion that everyone else has on that subject, and those opinions are likely going to turn you on or turn you off on him BEFORE YOU EVER EVEN GET A CHANCE TO LISTEN TO HIM.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
welcome to the Disney machine.
that’s kind of what they do, all day long. they’re kind of good at it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
hasn't that phenomenon
been around since the inception of pop music. Isn’t Justin Bieber just this generation’s Ricky Nelson or similar character?
And Kings of Leonm while sometimes catchy, kinda sucks. “Your sex is on fire” is dumber than any lyric Justin Bieber has ever sung.
/I got yo back Biebs
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I think the current Kings album is their best work to date
Yet it’s been panned by most critics and hasn’t sold well because it doesn’t have any catchy radio stuff on it.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
and it is a pile of shit.
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
Actually, no, I don't think that it has
I think this is a YouTube, information age phenomenon, much like the Kardashians and Paris Hilton are now basically famous for being, well, famous. You can’t even call 3/5 of the Kardashians attractive, yet combined they made $65M as a group last year, essentially just for being a famous trainwreck of a family.
You were introduced to Ricky Nelson by his music. You were introduced to Tiffany by her hit single. You were introduced to Vanilla Ice with Ice Ice Baby. The Beatles were introduced by their first couple of hit records — same with Elvis.
Yes, Justin Bieber initially hit the scene singing songs and dancing on YouTube, but we’ve now introduced him on morning shows where he doesn’t sing, on magazine covers unrelated to music, etc. I think his music and dancing are actually secondary to the “persona” of Justin Bieber. He’s a hot trending topic, and therefore, everyone in the MSM wants a piece of that so they can exploit it to make a buck, and when he’s not trending anymore, they move on to the next exploitation.
I mean, what other celebrity prior to 2000 (outside of Jennifer Aniston in the 90’s) could cut their hair and immediately evoke public outrage?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I believe Samson growing out his hair
ended up provoking some outrage. And he didn’t cut his own hair anyway, he was hanging out with Charlie Sheen and it ended up with buzzcut after getting pranked at 4 AM.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
This is nothing new..
The Beatles. Herman’s Hermits, and a host of others.
Elvis.
Frank Sinatra.
All pretty much manufactured in the same way. And I would actually say the same about the first two bands you listed – they’ve been pushed by the music industry relentlessly.
I disagree
I don’t see Arcade Fire billboards everywhere and Arcade Fire isn’t doing interviews with Ellen on Tuesday and Oprah on Wednesday and playing the Today show on Friday.
As far as Kings of Leon go — NOBODY listened to their first record, and nobody bought their second record until those two hits got a lot of radio play….which then resulted in the inevitable blowback against them because terrestrial radio has a playlist of, like, 12 songs and plays them to death or until someone lights the building on fire in protest.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I loved their first album!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I will end you
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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The Beatles existed before they broke
Lennon, McCartney and Harrison toured together for like five years in Hamburg.
And it was a little different back in the day, when there was a very clear line between performers and songwriters, too. Guys in the ’50s were expected to be mostly just performing songs that others wrote.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
eh, he's got a good voice
He doesn’t play any instruments (at least in his songs) and his lyrics are pretty shoddy, considering he is talking about love as a 14-year-old (Surely he has them written for him)
So he’s got a good, not great voice, but that’s about it. He doesn’t do anything else and if he writes his own lyrics, then he sucks at that.
For the record, I’ve listened to my fair share of him with friends in the car and his music is pure shit.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
In other words,
the male version of Taylor Swift.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I'm no fan of hers
but at least she writes her own music, lyrics, and can play an instrument above a schlock level. Bieber is like a male version of Christina Aguilera without the vocal chops.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I don't think a comparison to Aguilera is fair at all.
Brittney Spears, definitely. Not Aguilera. Aguilera has amazing vocal abilities even though she goes way overboard way too much. Plus, she was discarded by the Disney machine, probably because she was too rough around the edges or something.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
she doesn't have a good voice so no
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 25, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
How the hell can you tell if someone has a good voice
when they’re autotuned to death? Some artists use autotune to make a point (at which point, you’re really talking about the composition more than the song itself), but with something like Bieber, it’s just completely anonymizing.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I mean, he was discovered on Youtube
He wasn’t autotuning then, and he had a good voice
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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still, when you opt to heavily autotune while singing
the quality of your voice is irrelevant.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Katy Perry, while having two nice assets,
makes the most obnoxious music in the world. Kesha….uuugggh. Just the thought of picturing her when her music is playing is enough to count her out. Chrish Brown….doesn’t he get royalties if his music is picked? Or at the very least he gets more exposure, which he doesn’t deserve because he is a woman-beater wannabe thug piece of shit, so F that guy. Which means…
BIEBER BY DEFAULT, YO
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Troy Tulowitzki just knocked himself down about a million pegs in my opinion rankings index.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap
clap clap
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 25, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone needs to show him Friday with Rebecca Black
That’s basically Bieber + Ke$$$ha
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
by hr on Mar 25, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My daughter just showed me this
while proverbially sticking her finger down her throat. But then, she’s the only 14-year old I know who doesn’t really like music. At all. Of any kind.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
you all may enjoy this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkSANUxWAaE
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I'd be so rich that I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
by hr on Mar 25, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I LAUGHED!
Now THAT was hilarious!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Although
my wife would have stopped at the Townshend song.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
We need to somehow pay off the Dodgers' PA guy to have "The Lollipop Guild" be Miles' walkup music
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by jd is legend on Mar 25, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i hadn't heard of that
until a facebook friend this morning posted the death metal version. its very weird.
she is...
rather the song and video, are a rather sad reflection upon the state of some wings of the music industry…. sad indeed!
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
a 14 year gold girl?
Her lyrics are no worse than the black eye peas if you ask me.
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
someone had to write the song....
or at the least produce it and the video. And why did they do that… because they saw a cash cow! I despise bubble gum pop.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
it didn't really start making money
until it hit Tosh.0. People are getting it because of how bad it is.
There are hundreds amateur produced videos on utube.
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
she'd never gonna go anywhere with that chin
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
They have been...
loving the heck out of this song all day for intros and cut-ous all day on WXOS 101.1… funny but scary.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
There is 1 song and 1 song only for Stan the Man:
The Kinks – “I’m Not Like Everybody Else”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52EQhgZ4vLQ
For real real!
;=8)
SCHREMPF!!!
And just so's you young'un know....
…The Kinks saved rock & roll from the insipid, namby-pamby, radio-friendly, sugar pop of the Beatles, the Beach Boys, and udder over-rated pop groups of the day. Their repertoire of quality tunes is unmatched in rock history. AND Dave Davies invented the power chord!
:=8D
SCHREMPF!!!
My wife's a big fan of the Kinks
but she still thinks Pete Townshend is the God of Music.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
no way
it’s Clawfinger – Biggest & Best
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
They should really make a baseball song about Kim Ng
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
They already made a song about here sister, Ana
by PhillyRedbird on Mar 25, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Strong LOY candidate
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Indeed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
The MooCow is a mass of methane gas.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I wonder what's Theriot's music
Born on the bayou?
by peppermartin on Mar 25, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think his last year with the cubs,
he had Push It by Salt ’n Pepa.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I disagree
very gritty, reminding him to be a slap hitter and push the ball the other way.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
The main riff from "Push It" is awesome.
Anyway, I just found this instrumental version of it. I kinda dig it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
It's actually a pretty badass song.
Even the lyrics are a kinda dirty.
Good song.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I agree, but it's more as a by default thing than a good choice IMO
It’s the only song that I sort of don’t mind listening to.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 25, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H5I6y1Qvz0
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
i hate you
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Hey, when Lego walks out
I’m thinking he should play “Worlds Collide” by Powerman 5000. Seriously. It works for him in all kinds of ways, not the least of which is the size of his mellon in a batting helmet.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I don't know this Powerman 5000 of which you speak
but it reminds me of the song Powerman by The Kinks, which would also fit well
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Did you ever play Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2?
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
by tgreenfield on Mar 25, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I haven't played a videogame since Halo 2
and before that, it was FF7. And before that, Mario 3. I guess it comes in cycles, I’m probably due for another bout of videogaming pretty soon.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I think he's Rob's little brother.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
ha...yea that was like 1 of 3 songs played in that
game…so annoying
good song
anyways…tulo should pick Kesha’s Blow…i like the song and if you check out the musice video it has unicorns everywhere:)
by guillermozeliak on Mar 27, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they should play this video on the jumbotron:
starting about 1:54. Or maybe just the 15 seconds from 4:45 to the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eAgd8pN77A
Leaving out the text stuff, and the part where he gets thumped in the head, of course.
It's 7:05 somewhere...
Curt Flood Jr response (maybe)
From Comments section of NBCSports – http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/24/murray-chass-slams-stan-musial-really/#comments
Mr. Calcaterra:
Let me say at the outset that I have been in Musial’s company on several occasions. I once even sat next to him at a Cardinals Old Timers Game" in the dugout at the old Busch Stadium for about an an hour. He was warm, gracious and said things about my father that were beautiful. He also graciously signed everything that i could find that was not nailed down. Stan Musial is a good, decent and honorable man. I have not read Mr. Chass’s blog, however, the incident DID in fact happen to my father and my mother. But according to my parents, Mr. Musial was not in the restaurant. His doorman that night called Mr. Musial by telephone, but by the time it could rectified, my parents were pretty much fed up with not being fed up.
Best,
Curt Flood, Jr.
I didn't even notice the missing "e"
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
that's cause you're illiterate
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
It's true. I'm so in the wrong profession.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
So does Chass actually do anything that we could organize a boycott of?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
Nice article Dan
Did Chass even concede that other stories about Musial, like the one Mays told about him playing poker with all the black players at an all-star game, were out there…and how did he try to reconcile them? I’m guessing he didn’t, because they didn’t fit his manufactured narrative
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
No, he gloseed over every other story out there.
And didn’t even get the story he was talking about, right ffs.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the trouble with this idea that bloggers "don't correct their work" is that it ignores one little point.
they blog to an audience that can and will talk back to them.
most journalists answer to the person who writes their paycheck. you have not known the fear of God, liberty, and the first amendment until hundreds of angry commenters are flaming your ass, looking up you and your mom’s IP address, and editing your visage into stupid youtube videos.
so, no, the fact-checking may not be as extensive, but it sure as hell happens faster than professional set-ups.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 25, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Very good point
We don’t have to write a letter to Chass’s editor that may or may not result in some sort of half-assed “correction” that is buried somewhere within pages of newsprint.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
exactly. I trust columnists, pro writers, and field journalists for very specific things.
and I trust bloggers for what they bring, too. like I’m not gonna ask a blogger to do something they don’t do. nor am I going to ask a talking head to be smarter than they are (though they really ought to be smarter for all that health care coverage they’re getting.)
if you have no idea what each of those do, then you’re probably a bitter idiot.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 25, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
St Louis has a symphony???
Trappings of civilization on the frontier! Well, having the Cardinals helps, a lot.
;=8)
SCHREMPF!!!
they're going to do Looney Tunes sometime soon
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 25, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I kid, of course.....
…but we here back east like to believe civilization ends once u leave Eastern Standard Time…
;=8)
SCHREMPF!!!
actually, isn't the St. Louis symphony pretty renowned?
Its not the Boston Pops or the NYP, but I think it has a excellent reputation both here and around the world.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
that's actually pretty cool
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
If you like loud, fear-inducing music.
(Ok, it’s really cool too.)
My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter
It is the music from the movie Exacliber
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 25, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
and jackass
and probably 100 other movies
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Or any soccer highlight video
assembled on youtube. and isn’t it actually requiem for a dream?
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
by tgreenfield on Mar 25, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
It is the music to the award-winning movie "Explosion Zone!"
which me and my friends created for a class my last semester of high school. In the trailer “Oh Fortuna” plays while the characters are blown up with a nuclear explosion by mundane everyday objects (urinal, fan, window, high five).
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
When I here this
I think of The Omen. DIdn’t they use it in the original version of that movie?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
One of the best pieces to see live in the canon.
I’ve seen it a bunch of times, but don’t think I’ll make it in this year.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
I disagree
I don’t think an orchestra can do the necessary bass live, and I don’t think the voice parts have as much impact.
Huh? Which is why Orff scored it for electronics?
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
Not sure what you're getting at
The StL symphony orchestra uses electronics?
No, I was being facetious, poorly I guess!
I think that Orff scored it the way he did for reasons. He intended it to be heard as you hear it at the symphony, not through speakers with a subwoofer. I get why “O Fortuna” gets played so often with the bass exploded for effect and the voices way up in the mix.. It’s fun. But I don’t think that enjoying hearing it that way should detract from hearing it at the symphony, which is glorious!
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
Also, you can't really get the positively electric atmosphere and swagger of the singers if you're not there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FqeX888P18
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
Heh.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Mar 25, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
i had to join so i can rec it
it’s excellent
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
That is great!
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 25, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
My mom started a blog?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Mar 25, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
I rec'd it.
The theme from Leave it to Beaver was my sons’ walk up music in high school.
The announcer played music between innings, but played that when he came up.
( his last name is Beaver)
I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it... Jack Handy
Mr. Chass
Was a frequent target over at firejoemorgan. Worth checking out.
heh, while reading some chass-bashing, i also came across this:
Let’s pause a moment to give Tony La Russa’s gritty bunch of Memphis misfits a sincere tip of the cap for the effort that has kept them just on the fringe of contention.
Let us also praise him for leaving the best hitter in the history of ever on his bench as Aaron Rowand popped out against a guy who had walked the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth. Why does no one in the world ever allow for the possibility that Tony La Russa is a terrible manager? Sometimes he doesn’t just arrange deck chairs on the Titanic — he fixes the ones with wobbly legs, and then, while clinging to a piece of jetsam in the freezing North Atlantic, arrogantly insists that that chair would’ve come in handy if the boat hadn’t broken in half and sunk.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
by IHeartBoog on Mar 25, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I'm reccing that
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I've heard that a couple of times!
PREEMPTING ANY ANTICIPATED MOM JOKES
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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stop trying to ruin the joke
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Jeff's rocking the skinny tie
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 25, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
so i just read that murray chass article
and it’s clear, to me, that he’s a douchebag.
so now, the cards haters hit list is: passan, chass, bill simmons?, ESPN…
EH #2
FIRE JOHN MOZELIAK.
Red Sox fan
wrote about about 04….
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
he also wrote an article connecting a bunch of the 04 Sox to steroid suspicion
I don’t read him often, but when I do I find him to be pretty entertaining
I have no Cardinals related problems with Simmons
He’s not a hater, he’s a Red Sox fan.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
No, I hate him for that
And trust me, if he reads his Twitter feed at all, he knows this.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Go Hawks!
(ready to fire the coach they just hired less than a year ago…….off of the previous stiff coach’s staff)
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Mar 25, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Formerly St. Louis Hawks!
Also, formerly a lot of other cities too.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
What's wrong with the Celtics?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i hate them.
that’s what’s wrong with them.
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 25, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
but why?
is it because Kevin Garnett is crazy, makes fun of people with alopecia, punches others in the nuts and makes incomprehensible ramblings when his team wins the title?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
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by jd is legend on Mar 25, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty much.
and they’re from boston.
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 25, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't it alpaca disease
/GOB’d
//from arrested development, please don’t flame me
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
Although
He has come around on Kobe Bryant the last couple of years and his giving him his due
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
i still think he's the best player in basketball and has been ever since mj retired.
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 25, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Morrison
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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JJ Redick
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Mar 25, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Starbury
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Darko Milicic
I wonder if Pistons fans wake up with cold sweats knowing what could’ve been…
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 25, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
I don’t think they win the title with Carmelo Anthony — mainly because he steals all of Tayshaun Prince’s minutes. I could see them taking Chris Bosh in that spot, but not over Anthony or Wade, two guys who may not have helped them all that much.
They’d have been better off with Anthony a year later against the Spurs since they had trouble scoring the ball that year.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Well the Raptors took Bosh over Wade.
The Pistons had made it clear they wanted a big guy, so they took the European project instead of Bosh. I think Bosh would’ve fit well and its conceivable they take him instead if Darko’s out of the picture. Then again with Bosh they may not have made the Rasheed Wallace trade which was a HUGE boost for them for a few seasons.
I think we’d probably agree that Darko was a flop one way or the other, especially considering how loaded that first round was even beyond the big names. Josh Howard, Kendrick Perkins, and David West all went in that first round, and hell even the KU-Two of Collison and Hinrich have been more useful than Milicic.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 25, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Revisionist history
Nobody was really sure that Bosh was going to be a “big guy”, and I think we’re seeing why this season — he can’t defend big guys and he doesn’t rebound. He’s really a small forward with power forward height, like Barkley says all the time.
Darko was a flop as far as being an elite player, but he’s actually been a pretty useful player for Minnesota and for Orlando before that. He defends, blocks shots, and rebounds in limited minutes. You think KENDRICK PERKINS is a better player than Darko? Perkins has been voted “most overrated player” by the players for three years running.
If Milicic is any good right away they probably don’t make the Wallace trade either. That’s the thing about revising history — sometimes you make a change and it changes the whole dynamic in ways you didn’t intend.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Agreed
Although he’ll never eclipse MJ for me in terms of greatness (even though I actually think he’s more talented offensively than MJ ever was) and he’ll never eclipse Magic for me either.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
no one cares about your fantasy team
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Lou Alcindor?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
No, like pre-'85 Lakers era Kareem.
He was still really really good…and then basically turned into a shadow of himself for the last 4 years of his career, which, sadly, is the Kareem most people remember, not the guy that threw up 34-17-5 every night back in the late 70’s and early 80’s.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I agree, I was just being a jackass.
LA – Celtics of the 80’s were great, and Kareem could really take over a game.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I just always feel like he gets underrated.
I mean, what makes Jordan and Bird and Kobe great? Their ability to get a basket whenever their team needed it. Kareem was the ultimate guy for that. His shot was unblockable and he shot better than 55% a ton of times, he could get his shot off even when he was double-teamed, and he was a force defensively until he got to old and had to start concentrating on one end of the floor.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Jordan scored more points at a better percentage (and effective field goal%) with more assists his entire career
Jordan led the league in points every full year he played with the Bulls. It’s not possible to say Kobe is more talented offensively, you can argue “equal” (though I don’t think that’s right either), but no way he’s better offensively.
Not afraid to nitpick
Not possible?
There’s just no point in even having this discussion then. You’ve made up your mind.
And I guess you’re saying the Phil Jackson’s opinion counts for shit as well.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Kobe!
Worst “intense” face ever. I can only assume he made this face while visiting Colorado in 2003
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah where the hell did that come from?
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 25, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
he put robert horry on his list of the best basketball players of all time
also he interviewed william goldman on his podcast recently and spent half the time talking about basketball. I felt like I was owed 20 more minutes of awesome screenwriting anecdotes.
You and I could have a debate about Robert Horry forever.
Suffice to say, it would be a fun argument and neither of us are changing our minds on the subject.
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I could believe in the extreme high-leverage value of a 24-minute player if he were mariano rivera
but not when he’s danny graves
It's interesting that you bring up Rivera
Being that one of Horry’s greatest assets was the ability to close games out playing one of three different positions on the floor and defend each of those positions at an elite level, which allowed his coaches to play matchups late in games. I think the big shot stuff is overrated (same with Reggie Jackson’s World Series homers), but he was a 6’8" Scottie Pippen level defender who could defend four positions.
As I said, we’re never going to agree on this, although the level of discussion on the topic would be fantastic.
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My issues with Sportsguy
1) Not sure if he knows National League exists
2) Compulsive need to rank everything
3) Unnecessary Karl Malone and Deron Williams hate. For a brief moment in 2010 NBA playoffs, he “admitted” D Will best point guard alive. Suddenly, I’m not sure if he would consider him top 3 (see complaint #2)
Also, I would add Keith Law to list of haters
by PhillyRedbird on Mar 25, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
his Book of Basketball is incredibly entertaining
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Almost done with it
It’s a good read – but don’t his consistent Malone attacks (about 20 in all) seem a little Pathological?
by PhillyRedbird on Mar 25, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Malone attacks?
He attacks the only guy ahead of Malone on the all-time scoring list at least once every 3 pages.
Also, TBH, if you put swap Karl Malone and Charles Barkley, I’m not sure that Malone has Barkley’s career, but Barkley probably scores 30,000+ points playing with John Stockton, and he probably wins a title. Obviously subjective on my part, but while Malone was a very good player, his MVP award was a total fucking sham (everyone got tired of voting for MJ every year, and I’m not an MJ fan, I just respect him as the most valuable player in the history of the league), and he only even got to the FINALS twice in his career. I think Barkley was as good or better a player and Malone was able to play in the perfect system to fit his talents and with pretty much the perfect complement of players throughout his entire career.
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Both Malon and Barkley stole MVPs from Jordan.
How does 92-93 Kevin Johnson measure up against Stockton? I’ve never looked at that.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Kevin Johnson
was more of a dynamic scoring point guard. Stockton was a true facilitator.
God I remember that dunk he put on Hakeem Olaj….screw it, that big guy that played for the Rockets. One of the best dunks I’ve ever seen in a game.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Very different players, imo...
But ‘92-’93 KJ was nearly unstoppable. Picture Russell Westbrook with a better jump shot.
Stockton was the perfect guy to run that Jerry Sloan offense. Knew how to direct traffic, where to put the ball on the pick and roll, and how to set up a teammate in the best position for him to have the ball. I think Malone got a huge benefit from this.
FWIW — I was talking about those awful teams that Chuck was on in Philly for hte first half of his career.
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FWIW — I was talking about those awful teams that Chuck was on in Philly for hte first half of his career.
You’re being charitable.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 25, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
It’s amazing to me that a team made up of Barkley, Gminski, and Mo Cheeks, along with a young Cliff Robinson was even able to finish .500 in the Eastern Conference in the 80’s. Kind of a testament to how good the Round Mound was back then.
I guess he probably doesn’t lead the league in offensive rebounding three straight years without his teammates throwing up all those bricks though.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
OT: looking for a small, portable laptop/netbook type hybrid
Lenovo X120E for $399, possibly cheaper if I can get it through the friends and family site or find a coupon. Thoughts?
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Nice
I strongly prefer Lenovo for the touch typing experience. You’ll want more RAM.
My bad I missed the secondary RAM description
it’s good to go.
I think it comes in around 3 pounds
so still very portable
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
not much bang for the buck
dell has a deal running on refurbs.
The Latitude D series are very reliable.
bought a D630 as a spare back in january. upgraded the ram. I’m very happy with it.
I'll check it out
only concern is that my experience with Dells has been very poor, with Lenovos excellent. Plus I found a coupon to get it down to $359
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I would buy a Lenovo over a Dell any time
ESPECIALLY A REFURBISHED Dell.
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I'd buy a mac over all of them
…LET’S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I'll preemptively end it:
Macs are out of my price range, so no one bother recommending any
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Assuming you can afford a Mac, go for it.
But for those of us who aren’t wealthy, Lenovo is about as good as they come.
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i will never own a four digit computer.
therefore will never own an apple.
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 25, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll never pay $3.59 for gas!
-me, 11 years ago.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i know why i'll never own an apple
but it ain’t because of the four digits
i would LOVE a four digit computer!
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
So the Brewers traded Dickerson to the Yankees
for Sergio Mitre, and are now targeting Nyjer Morgan to replace Dickerson. Wat?
i wonder if they get a deal on councelling in bulk
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
It makes my heart warm
to think that the Yankees may have Millwood and Colon in their rotation this year.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is Buzz Bissinger when you need him?
bgh sent me a Chass article a month or so ago about (and I’m paraphrasing) “how pitchers in the game today are pussies and should throw more innings, and if they threw more innings at age 17, they’d pitch more like Robin Roberts and Warren Spahn”….which then also delved into how “statistical analysis is ruining the beauty of the game…blah blah blah…I’m a moron that doesn’t know what he’s talking about”
He just seems like an angry old man with a ghost writer name.
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I cannot reply to posts today
couldn’t yesterday evening either
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
cool story scoot
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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hey, I've got a bunch of empty Dr. Pepper cans if you need some cash
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
...Seriously?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Fuck
Thought I had beer money
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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even if I did
Its a 200 mile drive across the state. . . I don’t think you’d be making any money
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Kramer and Newman
think otherwise, and they have to drive from NY to Michigan!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Jack Zduriencik is awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7SwWhGfbNA&feature=player_embedded
He patted me on the back and pretended to learn my name!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Lohse pitches again tonight
it’s very encouraging to see him doing well again, keep it up Kyle
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
Jaime, on the other hand, has me a little worried. Should I be?
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
well
about a month ago I predicted our rotation’s effectiveness in ’11
Carp
Westbrook
Lohse
Garcia
?
now, McClellan, he’s kind of a wild card. not sure what to expect
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
nope
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 25, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
"Dude, why do they call you Cock-Knocker?" "Funny story actually..."
Good WSJ story about Diamondbacks bullpen catcher Jeff Motuzas taking bets.
Pitcher Livan Hernandez became something of a sadistic benefactor when he arrived in Arizona in 2006. …The two also hammered out a deal that permitted Hernandez to punch Motuzas in the groin for $50 a pop whenever he felt the urge. Motuzas would receive a $300 bonus after every 10th punch.
My vote for VEB shirts
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Mar 25, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I have been working on a new VEB shirt for myself atleast
I really like the “Beaver Alberto” line
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 25, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
matt sebek posts the top five
most offensive jerseys you can wear as a cardinals fan.
not sure i agree. in reverse order: drew, marquis, mulder, martinez, templeton.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I pretty much agree
I would add Hernandez en lieu of drew
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
My dad always tells me how Gary Templeton was his favorite player.
Never had a problem with Marquis (didn’t know he was that bad either after looking at fangraphs). If JD Drew was herpes, then more Cardinals players need to get it.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 25, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
Do you remember the JD Drew days? To this day, I will slap that joker in the face the next time I see him. Total Duchebag.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I think that's a bit harsh
I don’t remember him being a douchebag in any way.
The guy had 21 HRs by the middle of June before David Wells broke his hand by hitting him with a pitch, effectively ruining the rest of the season for him.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
If David Wells hadn't done that
then he would have pulled his hamstring taking a shit or some other stupid injury.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I agree it was frustrating
but it’s pretty unfair to the guy to hate on him because he got injured a lot. I’m sure he was just as frustrated with his injuries as anybody else.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
You think?
It never seemed to bother him that much and I remember a pretty big story about Will Clark absolutely chewing his ass once about his total lack of effort. I’ll be the first to admit that the guy has talent. Loads of it. But he’s a douche.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I don't see how you connect a reported lack of effort with injuries
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i think miles is pretty offensive, but that's probably not popular consensus outside of VEB.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I would say
martinez + giant full body condom wins that contest easily.
It's 7:05 somewhere...
by SleepyCA on Mar 25, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
and a rec for you
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
way off on drew
that most cardinals fans wanted him gone is only evidence that most cardinals fans should not be trusted with operating a baseball team, or a motor vehicle.
by DanUpBaby on Mar 25, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
I always wish he still played for the BotB.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd put Kip Freaking Wells on that list
Kip pisses me off so much, he isn’t even worthy of using the real F word
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Mar 25, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 on wells.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I wonder what he's doing with his world series ring?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
He ate it
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Mar 25, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
in his defense, his fingers were covered in Honey Mustard sauce
he had no idea till later he had eaten it
Balls
LET'S PLAY THE HYPOTHETICAL GAME
We never make the Mark Mulder trade
Daric Barton has been spending time between AAA and backing up Pujols/LF (I guess?) in the Majors. Let’s say he has 3 or 4 arb years remaining
Dan Haren has done basically what he’s done the last few years, but with us
Are you happier with letting Pujols walk after this year?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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And by arb I meant cost-controlled years
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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How is Dan Haren still on our team?
He’s well past his cost-controlled years at this point. Either he’s getting bank or we had to let him go.
Barton would probably have been traded later if not then since he’s a 1B and Pujols was here until at least 2011 making him expendable.
So I see us in the same position just with happier years before us (maybe another World Series?) and no hatred towards Mulder. But that does not make me any happier with letting Pujols walk.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 25, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
THAT'S WHY IT'S A HYPOTHETICAL GOD
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Mar 25, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh I should've used a comma there
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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flagged for religion.
lol that (the lack of a) comma changed the meaning of that so much.
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 25, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I know, but this hypothetical was just stupid
Time to get over Haren my friends…
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 25, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
the problem is, realistically, if Barton wasn't traded for mulder, he would have been traded for someone else.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
They would of traded him for Brett Wallace
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 25, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
this is the kind of paradox doc brown warned us about.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
by IHeartBoog on Mar 25, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now we have to go back and restore the TRUE 1985
The one where the Cards went all the way and won the World Series.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Mar 25, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm heading down to the Biff Tannen's Pleasure Paradise Casino & Hotel if any of you guys want to meet up later.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Mar 25, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
How MUCH later?
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
by spants on Mar 25, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WE WON'T NEED ROADS
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Mar 25, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wtf, i hadn't heard about this
why choose now to talk shit about the guy?
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
effin zoomzoom.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Mar 25, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sometimes these are so funny i'm beginning to think he's doing them on porpoise
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
well just keep doing what you're doing
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I completely agree
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Mar 25, 2011 6:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Because he's a no standard hack?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
+1
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Should I start watching the Sopranos?
I’ve never seen an episode, but I’ve seen the final scene broken down and analyzed. Is it worth my time to start watching the series?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
to both of you
even though I know how it ends and that Tony gets whacked?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Everytime someone walks in the door in the final scene
the POV is Tony’s. When Meadow (right?) walks in, the bell rings, screen goes black (Tony’s POV). He got shot by the members only jacket guy that walked into the bathroom.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
really?
sorry
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
no no no, you're misreading that, even the creator David Chase shot that theory down
it is supposed to show that nothing really ends, life goes on. even for gangsters who are always looking over their shoulder, life goes on.
Balls
hmmm. well the thing I read said he confirmed this ending.
I guess we’ll just chalk it up to bloggers not being accountable to anyone
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
like matty said, there's a lot out there & he plays both sides
ive seen both, but the last thing i saw was him talking about making a movie so it would be stupid to kill him. especially after he killed most of the crew. the only way they could do a movie would be to do a prequel & he wasn’t interested in that at the time. of course this was about 3 years ago so who knows what he’s thinking now.
Balls
And b/c of TLR
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 25, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I've seen interviews where Chase doesn't argue this notion
I think Chase is more than happy to have both sides argued.
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
I don't think Chass has argued this at all.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
the real answer is that tony realizes that journey sucks
And his only son is a useless prat. He smashes the minijukebox, shoots anthony in the head, then puts the gun in his mouth because he can’t fucking stand “don’t stop believin’”
True facts.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Mar 26, 2011 1:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes.
The rest of the series stands on it’s own. How would you think a gangster series would end, anyway? That was just one small piece in a masterful series.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
cool
I’m looking forward to it.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I can't decide which i should watch first though
Chronologically LOST or the Sopranos
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
have you seen lost before?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Uhhm yes.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i was just asking to make sure that you don't see the chrono as a first time view
it’d ruin the series
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
yes it definitely would
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I'm watching it for the second time now
just starting season 6
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
is it better the second time?
did you figure out some of the things that you didn’t catch before? i am wanting to start from the beginning again.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
yes lots of things are more clear
but the best part is seeing how there are so many easter eggs and such early on that signify things waaaay down the road…like 3-4 seasons down the road.
Also Hurley always says funny ironic stuff, usually in a passing manner, that is significant in future seasons
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
thats cool. especially since a lot of people were saying that the show's writers were just making stuff up as they went along.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
That's just plain false
They wrote the entire 6 seasons before the show ever even aired. That’s why season 4 is not that great. It was during the writers strike, so they had to re-write the entire season 4 down to 14 or so episodes.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
They did not "write" the 6 seasons
They conceived of them. But they made a lot of notable changes along the way (i.e. Ben was only supposed to be in 1-2 episodes).
damn i'm getting schooled in tv trivia today
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Btw, if you are looking for shows to watch
I highly recommend Battlestar Galactica if you haven’t seen it. It is awesome. As a fan of Lost you will appreciate the mythology.
Sopranos is good too, but if you haven’t seen Battlestar, check it out.
My Dad used to watch that show
I would watch it with him, but I didn’t understand it. I’ll have to check it out now though
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Damn, I still need to watch the
“Exodus” episodes.
I didn’t like it at first but I came back late in the series and it was excellent.
don't think you can even go this far
most of the show was winged season by season
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Mar 26, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
this just isn't really even possible
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Well when the producers say otherwise....
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 26, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
i never believed those people. i believed that the writers had a plot in mind from the start.
and that makes sense re: season 4.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
the writers admitted
that they didn’t have it scoped out.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Mar 26, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you need to read
Together, Abrams and Lindelof also created a series “bible,” and conceived and detailed the major mythological ideas and plot points for an ideal four to five season run for the show.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
ok read this:
no they didn’t.
hahahah
Also I can’t seem to bring up a copy of the foreword (by Lindelof) to the LOST encyclopedia but in it admits that the plot was often not preordained. Also, I’m not condemning them for this, I loved the show. (but I was let down by the sixth season and the ending in general.)
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Mar 26, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Let me sum up Lost for you
by using an Arnie quote: “It’s all bullshit, man!”
I admit I would check in once in a while while my wife was watching it to see whatshername in a tank top.
false. It's one of the greatest pieces of art of my lifetime.
and her name is Evangeline Lilly.
/geez
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Wait? Chronologically?
How are you going to do that? I’m confused
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Mar 25, 2011 6:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
google it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
chronologicallylost.com
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I love Joe Poz...
His response to Bruce Jenkins’ ignorance
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
Also, this quick
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yep....a nice twist of the knife.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah, it was fantastic.
If Joe wasn’t so damn good, he’d be over the top. But he pulls things off that I’d roll my eyes at with most writers.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
If Murray Chass really did have that conversation with Marvin Miller
and Marvin Miller really did make those comments…well,I am not so outraged that Miller can’t get into the thing that’s supposed to be a hall of fame or WATever.
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
meh. it all depends on how miller presented it.
He may not have presented that story as recounted or for the purpose of showing that musial was a jerk. Note that there’s now at least three versions of the story out there now: the miller/chass version where flood and his teammates were kicked out; the version from “the way it is” where it was flood and a girl; and the version flood now recounts where it was his parents. Something very odd is going on with this story. More than one version is garbled or mistaken or half-fabricated.
On the HOF point, miller served as the first full-time player’s rep ever and was among those primarily responsible for getting rid of the reserve clause. He may have had more impact on baseball than anyone since jackie robinson.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Mar 26, 2011 1:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
in case anyone didn't catch the game last night
you can go here to find out: www.diddukewin.com
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
all you Duke haters think you're sooooooooo funny don't you?
well you’re not! rich kids have feelings too!
Balls
i may take it a little more personally than the next person because i specifically chose to go to arizona for college instead of duke.
the 01 national championship was my freshman year, and it was like a slap in the face.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
indeed. thought of it more like i gave up a huge amount of debt for only a little amount of debt
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
That's like those billboards in Missouri with the girls face on it that read
“I chose Truman State over Harvard”
only Arizona is a lot better than Truman
/no offense fang
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
You're a Duke fan?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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That''s weird
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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really
because Duke lacks for fairweather fans?
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
You seem like a bit too much of a contrarian to be a Duke fan.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
Basically this
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Literally any time I see a popular sports team,
my first thought is, “what should I pick to hate about them?”
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
heh
Well my roommate and co-workers hate them so yeah. . . .there’s an angle there I suppose. Generally speaking, I have an immense amount of respect for how Coach K conducts himself in an environment that corrupts a lot of other people and/or promotes boorish behavior. (Not that Coach K is a saint.)
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
I've never understood hating a team just because they win
It’s one thing to hate the Yankees because they just outspend everyone, but why hate a winning team that doesn’t necessarily do anything unfairly?
This doesn’t just apply to Duke, but also teams like the Braves in the 1990’s.
I suppose I just don't get college sports
Maybe it’s because I have no connection, other than geography, to a Division I school, but I find most teams seem to have some sort of antic/cheer/tradition/overplayed band music that can engender hatred.
college sports are perplexing to me as well
My roommate was screaming in the other room for Kentucky to win. Except he’s never been to Kentucky, has no affiliation with the school, really has no reason at all to root for them. But he does. I find it strange.
That said, I’ve grown to enjoy them in a very passive way and there are schools that I prefer but no one I am vehemently rooting for. Duke was the final death nail in my bracket this year though.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
yep
mostly those fans who aren’t really fans and then when powerhouse team (like Duke) starts dominating is talking shit all the time. I have a die-hard Duke fan and I respect him because he came to like Duke for a weird reason (not because they won all the time).
The other guy started liking him randomly when they had a fucking awesome season a couple years ago and acted like he was the biggest Dukie you’ve ever seen.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 26, 2011 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions
goodnight, sweet prince
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/03/braden-looper-retires.html
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
tyler greene gets the start in CF today.
lineup:
theriot ss
greene cf
pujols 1b
holliday lf
freese 3b
berkman rf
molina c
schumaker 2b
lohse p
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I hope this is just a ST thing
Greene could easily replace skip if we really wanted to take lefty out the lineup.
yeah that is what i don't understand. colby is way better against LHP than skip
so why not take out skip and have greene play 2B. makes no sense, but i guess that’s par for the course around here.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
He's prob better at LHP than Greene too
though I’m not going to bother looking it up.
It’s hard to find a hitter who is worse against Lefties than Skip.
You know
after 2009, there was a lot of talk about how Rasmus couldn’t hit lefties, that bled over into last season, even late last season. And as we all know, he was GOB-awful in ‘09. But I thought he looked pretty comfortable last season against them, and the one or two ABs of his vs. lefties that I’ve seen this spring included a nice HR. I think he’s gonna have a hella year vs. southpaws in ’11.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Colby was good against lefties in 2010
It’s so weird to me how many people still seem to think he “can’t hit lefties” or something. In 2010 his wRC+ against lefties was 122, which by itself would be the third best wRC+ for any hitter with more than 300 PAs. Ryan Ludwick had a 121 wRC+ with the Cardinals last year.
By the way, this wasn’t aimed at you, I am just ranting in general.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Third best in 2010 for a Cardinals with 300+ PAs
In case that was unclear.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Didn't think it was. I agree, he was good last year
and I think he’ll be better this year.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, his 131 PA's from last year aren't exactly a huge sample size
It’s definitely encouraging, but it’s way too soon to say it shows anything definitive.
OTOH, it’s a pretty good bet that Colby in CF and Tyler at 2B vs LHP outperforms Tyler Greene in CF and Skip at 2B.
It's 7:05 somewhere...
I agree that it's a small sample
What I’m saying is that he at least has some very good numbers against lefties in the majors, but nobody made much noise about it. The “struggles against lefties” tag seemed to stick way too long, in my opinion. It should at least have upgraded to a “maybe won’t struggle against lefties” tag.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
FWIW, that was a pretty routine fly ball
that he got a terrible jump on, then panicked at the end and had to dive for.
It's 7:05 somewhere...
Woohoo, Tyler Greene!
Not only is he a better infielder than Skip, he’s already shown he’s a better outfielder, too.
Skip is the best outfielder of all-time, in that his OF play brought Aranathor to the light.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
Probably better range as a SS, too.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He had positive UZR in 07, 08, and 09 at SS according to Fangraphs.
No, he won’t be Boog, but it’s not like he’ll be Skip, ether.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
yeah, I don't think it's fair to talk about him in the same breathe as Skip or Miles
but I’m definitely hoping Punto gets well soon since I really hate our MIF defense right now.
Carbombs.
They help me forget that Ludwick isn’t in right field.
And they taste like milkshakes!
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Mar 25, 2011 6:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
So hard to keep all the ingredients around, though.
Guinness is yummy on its own, as well as in bomb form.
Jack Daniels and nitro stout are mainstays in my cabinet.
Not sure about other people.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
I'm on spring break
And for whatever reason, my boyfriend does not mind!
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Mar 25, 2011 6:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Puma is gonna break down
like my 1982 Datsun
by Lambtron on Mar 25, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
FREESE DINGER
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
MR.FREEZE!
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Mar 25, 2011 6:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
So
now that Tallet has a groin injury, are they gonna go with Gast? Or go with another righty already on the 40-man?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 6:54 PM EDT reply actions
Augie
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
No one knows yet
he might miss the home opener at this point.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 25, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Not too long
He’ll be out for the opener though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Baseball in the evening.
I like it.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
by spants on Mar 25, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
+1000
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Mar 25, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ohhh, i heard about Freeze's bomb via the twitters, i really hope he's healthy & stays that way
Balls
that'd be nice
but I feel a lot better about the whole thing having matt carpenter around
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
dan and al talking about moneyball
heh
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
Al: it’s a simple game, but it’s getting more and more scientific
Dan: you gotta have a good teammate
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
wat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I didn't really catch what he was saying about it
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Mostly just about how it's about his injury / recovery
and how if you’re gonna get a tat it should mean something to you.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Mar 25, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Is MLB requiring this mega helmets for the young guys?
I’ve been seeing them a bunch on the no-namers.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Mar 25, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions
MINOR LEAGUES REQUIRE THEM.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
WHAT?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
minor leagues require the big helmets
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
HE SAID-
MINER BLING REQUIRES PHLEGM.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Mar 25, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
MINOR LEAGUES REQUIRE THEM.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Mar 25, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I just watched my first season dvd set of that.
Chevy Chase was brilliant in that first year.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Mar 25, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry fritz, I just switched screens at work and still had the caps lock on.
I DIDN’T MEAN TO YELL LIKE A PRICK.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
more often than not.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
my roommate is good at bass playing
but I gotta say his guitar playing is not very good. /annoyed
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
eh, I can't really go that far without ever having a conversation with him
he’s probably a nice guy, just a shitty baseball player
I didn't mean as a person
as a player.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Mar 25, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
My first thought was "Berk woulda"
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
I read this, "Wow! I'm surprised by how badly Stavinoha sucks."
But I know you are not surprised.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
he continues to not impress all the time
or make the wrong impression I guess would be the more direct way to say it
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
cards traded colby?
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
hmm
my computer is stalling a lot with mlb.tv
so that’s why the ps3 is becoming more used…. or partly why
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 8:02 PM EDT reply actions
somehow Stav ran and found a line drive in his glove
probably the best play I’ve seen him make
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
it's official
the announcers said Craig can play third base
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 25, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions
Okay, so I finally got my mlb.tv subscription.
What pro tips do I need to make it work best. (nexdef something something)
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
If you are working on a laptop
I advise finding a way to cool your laptop better than your fan, mine runs incredibly hot and I’ve found setting it on a bag of ice water helps smooth that along.
Not afraid to nitpick
I'll be mainly on my desktop.
I guess I have to install nexdef in order to jump between innings.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I just read "Taking a Saber to Sabermetrics"
on Chass’s unblog. I shit you not – that’s the title of the “article.”
It is literally one of the most unfair pieces of willful ignorance I have I ever read. I fully expected a “U MAD?” image at the end. I think he is baiting FJM out of retirement.
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
Future Chass article ideas:
Review of Hoosiers titled: “Gene Hackman: Hack Goes Down to his Genes”
“Putting the Win in Winning: Charlie Sheen’s guide to Pitching Stats That Matter”
“Nothing Dusty About This Baker’s Proven Philosophy”
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
by all4tookie on Mar 25, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Can I request an alternate version of the last one?
I think it would be better as “Nothing Dusty About This Baker’s Proven Recipe”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Mar 26, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
See, cause he's a baker and a recipe is a play on words that involves the culinary arts
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I couldn't catch much baseball but I did see this
Skip comes up to the plate. I flip to WGN, where Brendan Ryan is in the middle of his at-bat. I watch a few seconds, then flip back. Skip has made a gritty out. Commercials begin.
Flip back. Brendan Ryan works a walk.
…………..ok, the guy was wild, but it seemed poetic. Other happenings — he stole a base off Randy Wells, right under the tag, classic Mather-style. I was told Jack Wilson got hit in the face by a ball, but I saw no appreciable difference.
Never mind. Have some Bugs Bunny.
Have it your way, Mac, but don’t you get a little tired running them 18 bases?A halcyon time when baseball was the default.
*
By the way, ESPN’s survey of Latino players is in. Best trash-talking in Spanish by a non-Hispanic:
1. Nate McLouth
2. Ichiro
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
BEER!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
goddamn, you are a man among men
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
i don't think this is how the saying goes now
but you know what i mean
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
312 Urban Wheat
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
yucky
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I love wheat beers
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
there aren't many beers better than a Boulevard Wheat in a frozen glass
but the icy cold glass is the key
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Mar 25, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the color of 312 that i just can't stand
it’s so….yellow
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I'm drinking rosé champagne, and I'm not afraid to admit it.
Henriot NV, if you must know.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
I don't think I've ever had a red or rose sparkling wine
But I do want to try one some day.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I JUST WANNA MIS-UH-BEHAVE
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
i just wanna get freaky with you, lemme lick you up & down, till you stay stop
(baby baby)
let me play with your body baaaby make it reeeeeal hot
Balls
whoa
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
that'd be a negative
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
wat
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 25, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
nah
the game was quote good songs not bad rap songs from the 90s
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 25, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
how dare you good sir! Freak Me is smoooooth as butta R&B
guaranteed to help you get lucky with your lady or fella
Balls
i don't have a fella
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 25, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
wait i don't have a lady either
f’in gdm
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 25, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
at least you have a gdm
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Mar 26, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I love that song/album so much
I assume you’re referring to Barely Legal by The Strokes. That album was pretty much the sound track to my senior year of high school.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
so many good shows coming up
why are none of them tonight. work today was incredibly slow. so despite the normal fact that i say stationary (ery?) for 8 hours, i had fuck all to do the whole time. i need to do something
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
tell me wtf is up with this nexdef plugin....
I hear nothing but bad things, but if I want to watch a particular inning, it says it needs to be installed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it wasn't compatible with windows 7 for most of last season
so i don’t have any experience with the new one. just install it and see if it works. if not, it’s fairly easy to block from running
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
Will I be able to jump between innings if I block it?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Also, I just found out that there's an excellent Chinese place
about 5 blocks from my house. I thought they were closed for the last year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
great now I want Chinese food from my local takeout
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Soul-crushingly difficult sporcle test:
http://www.sporcle.com/games/smyth/mlb_hit_leaders_by_team
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
yeah, i gave up pretty quickly
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twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 25, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
my mind just blanks on this stuff
it took me forever to remember pet rose’s name. and brock. i couldn’t come up with hornsby’s name before i quit
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twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 25, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I just blank too
I only got 52
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
well 54 if you count that i couldn't figure out how to spell yastrzyemskkkiye
and shoendienstdleiud
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Some. That sort of thing is always worth a try.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
I got cedeno, but only because late in the quiz I started guessing common Latin ballplayer names.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
ditto.
Got Collins Mookie Wilson and a couple of others doing random common names.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
We're all geniuses is what it is...
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
that's so last VEB late night
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
whoa nevermind
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
This one is easy and fun
http://www.sporcle.com/games/Booger/MLBEasttoWest
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Wow. Fred McGriff played for the Rays?
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
I vaguely remember that, but I have NO recollection of the Crime Dog in Tampa!
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
the hardest thing for me was thinking outside my era
The whole time I’m thinking “WHO THE HECK HAD 3900 HITS FOR DETROIT???”
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
older
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Anybody else's "up" to parent button being wanky?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i figured it out
sometimes my veb pages load with a # at the end then all the “up” “reply” and “actions” don’t work and just kick me up to the top of the page
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
So you watched this as a child too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS_lD9_Ur3g
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
then the quote you were looking for was
negative ghost rider
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
i don't think i've bought a good six pack of newcastle in texas ever
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
...are there bad ones and good ones?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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i dunno
maybe i just don’t like it anymore
or maybe it just sits on the shelf for a long time or something
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 26, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
for whatever terrible reason newcastle continues to use clear glass bottles which can change the taste of beer much easier than dark glass bottles. Which is why a bottle of newcastle tastes so much different than a draft newcastle. If you can find newcastle in cans, you’ve got a much better shot.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Interesting
Thanks
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Hey plebs
Read through this site
http://artofmanliness.com/category/dress-grooming/
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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did your mom complain
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 25, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't even know what you mean
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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what's its stance on skinny ties?
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 26, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I haven't looked at a tie article
But they’re fans of boat shoes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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well, certainly, "if you're on a boat", to prevent slipping ;)
For any other usage, they were pretty ambivalent ;)
It's 7:05 somewhere...
...
Boat Shoes – Boat shoes serve a practical purpose – their soles are cut to help you avoid slipping on and marking the delicate surface of watercraft. And like many practical tools, they escaped their natural boundary years ago and have established themselves as a piece of classic summer footwear, due in large part to their variety of color and that they can be worn sockless.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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They're worn by people who want to look good
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
eh
that’s not exactly ringing praise. That reads (to me) like “they are basically flip flops for guys who wear pants to tiki bars”.
It's 7:05 somewhere...
because
you wouldn’t go anywhere else in public sockless…. would you?
Please say no.
It's 7:05 somewhere...
Let's just agree to disagree
And that my fashion sense is different
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
your mother has failed you
the only time a man should be sock less is at the beach, pool, shower or bedroom
Balls
i wore flip flops to work yesterday
i will wear flip flops to work today
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 26, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
problem is
when you go sockless to, say, a restaurant, or (god almighty, I want to stab) on an airplane, people around you smell your feet. it’s not about fashion, it’s about sanitation. It’s like saying “i don’t wear deodorant, but that’s ok- let’s agree to disagree”. No, that’s not ok.
You don’t smell them, because you get used to it, but others do. This is ALWAYS negative. It’s not just a matter of agreeing to disagree- there is room for jihad here. Death to the disgusting unsocked infidels!
It's 7:05 somewhere...
by SleepyCA on Mar 26, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i don't think this is necessarily true
when my feet are enclosed in full shoes, they sweat so much that if i don;t use odor eaters or something, even i can smell them. when i wear flip flops, them babies are free to breath and don’t sweat hardly at all
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 26, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually don't wear deodorant. For whatever reason, I don't get BO, nor do I perspire much in the armpits
But there’s actually an article on that site that addresses going sockless in the summer, and proper sanitation is obviously one of them. I’ll keep that in mind
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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yeah it's different in that you have none
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Mar 26, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
GET THE WAISTS ON YOUR SUITS SUPPRESSED
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I'm giving you guys valuable fashion advice here
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
no clothes?
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
by mattyfrommo on Mar 26, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah i'm sure you're all awake enough to picture that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 26, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok, I'm here.
Let’s celebrate.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Mar 26, 2011 12:09 AM EDT reply actions
who brought the booze?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
What's to celebrate?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 26, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
The fact that I'm here, obviously.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Mar 26, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh
I thought maybe it had something to do with 3 out of 4 #1s not making it to the elite 8, and the only one that did is a B12 team.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 26, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
That is DEFINITELY not something to celebrate.
Well…ok, part of it is. I like the 1’s being out, except that the ONE team I don’t want to win is the 1 seed still playing.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Mar 26, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
if KU wins the whole damn thing i'm going to puke
and meester’s going to be laughing at all of us
Balls
My sanity cannot handle that.
Please please please, anyone else.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Mar 26, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
I’m scrollin’ thru songs on Pomplamoose’s youtube channel, so I’m checkin’ in here every 5-10 mins or so.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 26, 2011 12:09 AM EDT reply actions
well... that's depressing
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
kid's got style
I’ll give him that
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
Holy crap, VCU!
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Mar 26, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions
Even better
CC!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 26, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
who knew how good shin soo choo was last year
if you say you did, you’re a liar
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twatter
I did
I’ve made like 4 separate posts on how underrated he was/is
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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i mean i knew he was good
but he was like 7 WAR good
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 26, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
the choo choo train is legit
all aboard!!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Well, the Blazers won in amazing fashion
So I’m celebrating. Everyone else is dead, though.
by mattisnotfrench on Mar 26, 2011 1:56 AM EDT reply actions
Apparently Bronson Arroyo has the kissing disease.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Man, early-morning weekend VEB is so totally dead!
What’s wrong, don’t you guys routinely wake up before 6 on Saturdays like me?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Waiting for tom s. to rise and shine.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm looking for something to drink.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 26, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Bloody Mary?
Maybe a mimosa with breakfast?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I just had a nice cup of 100% Kona.
Other than being at work, my dog destroying my last pair of shoes, and this hangover I have, my Saturday is starting brilliantly
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
oj + coffee up in this piece
breakfast at 11am what
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
by prophetjohn on Mar 26, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe this has already been posted on today's thread, but here's Poz on Chass
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/03/26/men-of-honor/
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
Great, great piece, Dan
I’m tired of Chass drawing his imaginary lines in the sand when he’s more reluctant to retract his mistakes than the old dude in the basement stereotype.
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From someone like your grandpa.
Adjusted Expectations
(the Fan and the "Man")
Vin Scully once said, “Musial was so good, he took your breath away.”
(Cooperstown, 1982)
Serenely posed in bronze, with smiling face
Arrayed mid splendid peers behind a railing
Astonishing me in this demi-sacred place
A mean attempt to capture legend, failing.
O’er twenty years spring, summer, fall
like lightning your bat, like a whippet you ran.
You never looked back at an umpire’s call;
in Brooklyn, they dubbed you, "The Man".
My wife and sons don’t comprehend
Why I stand and stare at your puckish visage
or wipe away tears I couldn’t defend
rememb’ring my dreams at an unfinished age.
