head in sand edition
by lboros on Mar 1, 2011 9:06 AM EST
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Printfor those of you who are still in Stage 1: Denial of the wainwright grief sequence, the 2011 Maple Street Press Cardinals Annual is a must-read. according to that source, wainwright remains at the core of the st louis rotation. that’s because we sent the files off to the printer on february 4, about three weeks before all this "elbow injury" talk began. if your head’s still buried in the sand and you’re determined to keep it there, then ours is the guide for you. hell, we’ve even got wainwright on the cover.
i suppose that means we’ve got a jinx on our hands --- which is really unfortunate, because chris carpenter’s on the cover of this year’s edition, too. no, really. look:
so here's what you do: just fold the cover in half, cut along the crease, and voila! our book is as current as the latest tweet from joe strauss. if you’re handy with photoshop (which i’m not) you can modify the cover to suit your taste (pair of aces: chris carpenter and bryan augenstein!). you could also just tear the damn cover off.
the Annual is scheduled to be on display at your local bookstore / newsstand / convenience store as of today. Danup’s a stalwart contributor as always, along with the red baron, chuck b, will leitch, dayn perry, et alia. the good news is that quite a bit of the material in the book is non-adam-related and therefore retains its integrity. i’m not going to pimp too hard; the list of articles is online at the maple street press website (and you can order yourself a copy there if'n that is how you roll).
if this injury had occurred while we were still working on the magazine, i’d probably have commissioned an article about what happened to other contending teams who were luckless enough to lose an ace pitcher at the start of spring training. only it would have been a short article. i can’t find a single comparable instance within the last 15 years. plenty of contending teams have lost an ace; they’ve nearly all lost an ace at one point or another. but none lost one right at the outset of camp. most of the time, these pitchers go down during the regular season, and the ones who have gotten hurt during training camp got healthy soon enough to give their team 10 or 20 starts. pitchers who came into the season hurt (e.g. tim hudson circa 2009, or pedro martinez circa 2007) don’t make for useful comparisons, because their teams didn’t spend all winter counting on them to contribute. the same goes for guys (e.g. mark prior 2004) who got hurt in training camp but avoided major surgery and were able to pitch at least somewhat effectively that same year; it’s tough to lose an ace for 10 or 20 starts, but still not as tough as losing one for 33 or 34. and then there are cases like daisuke matsuzaka (2009), jason schmidt (2007), and bartolo colon (2006), who began the season hurt, tried to pitch through it, got clobbered, and ended up spending most of a season on the DL anyway.
the closest thing to a helpful precedent out there might be the 1999 cubs, who lost kerry wood on march 17 to a popped elbow ligament; he underwent TJ surgery and missed the whole year. wood had been the cubs’ most valuable pitcher the previous season as a rookie, but i wouldn’t compare him to wainwright in terms of value. he’d barely qualified for the league ERA title the previous year, with 166 innings pitched; that only ranked fourth on his own team. wood’s WAR total (3.7) didn’t rank among the top 10 NL pitchers, nor among the top 20 pitchers in MLB; wainwright by contrast has been in the top 5 in MLB for two years running. so i don’t put great stock in the comparison --- which is convenient, because the cubs fell from 90 wins to 65 and from 2nd place (and a wild-card appearance) to dead last. they gave wood’s starts to kyle farnsworth and andrew lorraine, who went a combined 7-14 with an ERA in the low 5.00s.
the next most useful (or least useless) case study is the 2009 arizona diamondback team, which lost brandon webb for the season on opening day. that team was in a similar position to this year’s cardinal team --- trying to rebound from a disappointing second-place finish and regain the division crown they’d won two years earlier. their rotation was built like the cards’, with a second ace (dan haren) to fall back on when webb went down, two reliable midrotation veterans (doug davis and jon garland) and a talented 24-year-old, max scherzer. haren turned in a stellar year (6.0 WAR, 5th-place finish in the CYA), and the three guys behind him were well above average, combining for 5.3 WAR. 11.3 WAR from the top four starters is pretty good; the cards last year got just shy of 13 WAR from their top four starters (with penny+westbrook counting as the fourth). but the dbacks’ 5th slot killed them --- yusmeiro petit, billy buckner, kevin mulvey, and others combined for 37 sub-replacement-level starts. their bullpen wasn’t every good either. the rotation was still a strength, and the pitching overall didn’t really hurt them ---- the team finished with a park-adjusted ERA+ of 101, about average. by contrast, their offense only finished 8th in the league in scoring despite playing in an emphatically hitter-friendly home park. their final record was 70-92, their pythagorean record 75-87. assume the offense had held up its end and scored 800+ runs; the pythagorean record might have flipped to, say, 84-78 --- at which point the loss of webb would really start to sting, because it cost them about 7 games in the standings. ie, under that set of assumptions webb’s loss would have dropped a 91-win team into the 84-win range --- exactly the sort of outcome the cardinals are trying to avoid.
that brings us to the 2007 cardinals, who lost carpenter on opening day and never recovered from the blow. i’m discounting this one for a couple of reasons. first, the composition of the ’07 rotation couldn’t have been more unlike the ’11 group’s. the ’07 staff featured two pitchers who’d never made a big-league start (wainwright and braden looper), a third with fewer than 100 career innings pitched (anthony reyes), and a fourth who’d spent 3/4 of the preceding season on the dl. this year’s support structure is much sturdier, more like the ’09 dbacks than the ’07 cards. second, when carpenter went down in 2007 the initial prognosis was that he’d only miss five or six starts. he started throwing on the side in late april; when that went badly, they scoped his elbow in early may and pushed his projected return back to the all-star break. carp began throwing again in june, got sent out on a rehab assignment in july, and was expected back in st louis by the end of the month. only after his second rehab start, on or about july 15, did it finally become apparent that he’d have to have TJ surgery. in essence, the team spent nearly four months in hope-and-pray mode, seeking nothing more than stopgap solutions of the randy keisler / brad thompson / mike maroth ilk. all along, carpenter remained the team’s best option to replace carpenter, and he was always thought to be just a matter of weeks away --- so they waited for him to come around, and while they waited the season went into the shitter.
if the 2011 cardinals' season unravels, it won't be on account of might-or-might-nots regarding their ace. they have the luxury of certainty. more important, they have a luxury that no other ace-deprived contending team has enjoyed in recent memory --- a six-week period to restructure their staff. they won’t have to rebuild on the fly. if this had happened at any point during the season, or even late in training camp, kyle mcclellan probably would be ruled out as a replacement. he wouldn’t be conditioned for starting, andhe’d be too deeply implicated in the bullpen usage patterns. if you have to lose an ace pitcher, you might as well lose him at a point when you have more than a month to reshuffle the deck and slot your remaining guys into their new roles.
so there’s your silver lining, folks. don’t be blinded by it.
with respect to the replacement candidates, i think you have to start with mcclellan. he’s the most talented pitcher among the mlb-ready candidates, although his departure leaves the bullpen somewhat exposed. for that reason i wouldn’t be averse to sorting through walters / lynn / augenstein; seems like the odds are good that at least one of those guys can come up and pitch at or above replacement level. but the downside risk would be great --- definite chance of the same sub-replacement results the ’09 diamondbacks got.
thanks for reading. hope you like the MSP Annual in spite of the cover. and if you have any thoughts about the magazine, write me a note.
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This year I am seriously considering buying the MSP book.
I have never actually purchased any baseball annual before, aside from this one time I was bored in an airport and bought a fantasy baseball thing, which I then left on the plane by accident anyway.
It’s amazing just how ill-prepared that 2007 team was to compete, once Carpenter went down. Albert Pujols led the team in PAs with 679, and the next highest total was Eckstein’s with 484. The MV3 had finally disintegrated into the MV1. The starting rotation was the ultimate La Russa/Duncan mad science project. Ludwick and OF-version Ankiel emerged just enough to not be starting position players. There really were no full-time position players besides Albert and Molina, since catchers never play as many games and it’s unfair to compare them. Aaron Miles was second in games played with 133.
Also, I like how lboros used “et alia” instead of shortening it to “et al.” I’ve always kind of felt that “et al.” was unnecessarily, because “et alia” is so short already. What’s the point of abbreviating it? You’re getting rid of two characters at the most, and that’s if you do it at the end of a sentence.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I highly recommend buying the MSP Annual.
I pre-order it from the website. It has great articles from a ton of the bloggers here at VEB and other blogs. I thoroughly enjoy it.
As for 2007, I was in Europe until the All-Star Game. (I watched Ichiro hit the first inside-the-park home run in an ASG in the O’Hare Chilli’s after my flight from O’Hare home was cancelled.) So I don’t remember the Carpenter timeline well at all, probably because I didn’t have computer access very often (let alone a mobile with Twitter). I can’t believe that we were something like 1 GB late in the season in 2007 at the peak of the Ankiel Renaissance.
“et al.” is a lawyer abbreviation. Lawyers shorten “2nd” to"2d."
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Mar 1, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it actually got ridiculously close late in 2007.
A testament to how bad the division was once the Cards stopped being a juggernaut.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
pretty much standard academic abbreviation
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
MSP seems like one of the very few things that I'd prefer to get as an eBook / pdf.
Does it include projections? If so, which ones? I didn’t see much on the site about what kinds of numbers are included.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Mar 1, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Id est isn't that hard to say either.
It’s fewer letters and syllables than et alia. Hadn’t thought of that one because I honestly forgot exactly what “i.e.” stood for. Another problem with abbreviations. I think e.g. and etc. make much more sense.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
if you had lived in the time of extensive academic glosses
you would go crazy?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I just kinda feel like Latin gets the short shrift.
There are all sorts of French and German words that get used without abbreviation. It’s nor fair I say!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
...abbreviating German words, eh?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I ran into it at Walmart
but then I was seized by an uncontrollable fit of weeping. sorry. (also i was broke.)
lboros has a nice idea though… then it would be
“PAIR
Chris Carpenter
to lead Cards back”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i got it in 09 & they made the playoffs, i didn't last season & they missed them
does anyone else see a pattern?
duhhh, winning!!!!
Balls
i appreciate an lboros post, even if it continues point out how much we will miss wainwright,
but not as much as i appreciate mike shannon calling a ballgame later this afternoon. no offense, lb.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
speaking of
didn’t liam used to figure out where to get the radio or TV broadcasts to stream on the comp?
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
That was someone else
I work in a basement, so springing the $15 for the gameday audio/At-Bat subscription is a steal for me.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
The McClellan talk worries me.
Can he really handle the rapid ramping-up of innings that becoming a starter would require? Verducci Effect and all.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
If you're really worried about the V effect, Garci should concern you this year.
Save K-Mac worries for 2012.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I hope we are worrying about the Verducci effect with K-mac,
instead of the five-inning-four-runs starter effect.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
Is the Verducci effect even real?
I remember a few contrarian articles popping up a little while back, but I can’t really remember much about the debate.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Mar 1, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
He does.
Not as much, though, since he’d had starter work loads before the TJ surgery.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by StanTheManFan on Mar 1, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
verducci effect doesn't concern me
we’ve seen plenty of guys lately make successful conversions from relief to the rotation -- adam wainwright, braden looper, ryan dempster, cj wilson, and todd wellemeyer right off the top of my head. maybe it’d increase the odds of surgery later (ie 2012 or after) but i’m not really thinking that far down the road. for this year only, i’d trust mcclellan to stay healthy for 180 innings.
Another consideration with K-Mac
McClellan has already had Tommy John surgery, if I’m not mistaken. He then suffered a setback (or, reinjury?). How does the Verducci effect apply to those pitchers who have already received Tommy John surgery? Also, is there is any evidence that relief pitching is substantially less taxing on the arm than starting?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Good luck with that...
The most he’s ever pitched pro was 120 innings and that was 7 years ago.
He barely managed 5 innings a start when he was used to being a starter and in the minors. Is he really going to top that now?
Can but hope he's added strength and endurance while learning to pitch more efficiently.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
but discojer, he was 20 years old at the time
most teams aren’t piling big innings totals onto 20-yr-old arms. last year only one cardinal farmhand under the age of 22 threw more than the 128 innings mcclellan threw in 2004. two seasons ago, only 2 guys topped that figure. ditto for 2008. for his age, mcclellan threw a good number of innings in his last year as a starter -- then they converted him to a reliever and his innings totals went down. i’m not drawing any conclusions from his innings totals.
but two of the guys i cited above had profiles pretty similar to mccllellan’s before converting to starters at the big-league level. cj wilson never threw more than 136 innings in any minor-league season, and after reaching mlb he spent 5 years pitching exclusively in relief -- until last year, when he tossed 204 innings for texas and was still strong in the playoffs. braden looper never threw as many as 100 innings in any professional season before 2007; then he threw 175, 199, and 195 the next three years as a starter. if i actually did some research i believe i’d find other examples.
no, he's a ticking time bomb & i really don't wanna see him blow up
MO should have already traded him for someone useful
duhhh, winning!!!!
Balls
It's cool
That picture of carp clearly shows so signs of “inverted w of doom”
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Mar 1, 2011 9:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions
No signs
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW
by VolsnCards5 on Mar 1, 2011 9:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lineup
2B Skip Schumaker
SS Ryan Theriot
CF Colby Rasmus
LF Matt Holliday
DH Lance Berkman
3B Daniel Descalso
C Yadier Molina
1B Allen Craig
RF Jon Jay
I wonder why freese still isn't playing?
Is he okay?
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
by hr on Mar 1, 2011 9:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
nope
ankles aren’t ready yet.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I hope they give him as much time as they can
As long as he’s healthy for the season
by RasmustheRipper on Mar 1, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
/dead horse
funny how there was none of that last year.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
low and slow is always recommended in one's home oven.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
let yourself go
low and slow, that is the tempo
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Did anyone else do a bit of a doubletake...
seeing Colby at the #3 spot?
I didn’t notice it at first, then when it wasn’t Holliday —or even Berkman…
Anything we can take away from that? Probably not, being ST game #2, but still interesting.
Well, albert's not playing
And tlr has hinted at keeping holli at 4 and berk at 5; this is probably just to maintain normalcy as much as possible
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
by hr on Mar 1, 2011 10:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks
I understand the 4/5 thing, just must have missed the comments. You’d think you’d want normalcy for your young hitter, though.
Albert normally hits 3
therefore, 3=respect
Berkman and Holliday already know their place, Colby’s place in the manager’s eye has been debated ad nauseum, so whether this was Tony’s train of thought or not, I love the fact that Colby’s hitting 3.
by RasmustheRipper on Mar 1, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
I've really never bought that moving a hitter around in the lineup throws
him off to any degree worth concern. If you can hit in one spot, you can hit in them all. If you can’t, you can’t.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Plus, this is the second game of Spring Training.
It’s little more than glorified batting practice at this point.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Mar 1, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Obviously putting a hitter third is a sign that TLR doesn't like you.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Colby traded before the end of the game.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Very interesting lineup.
All things re: Albert and/or no Albert will be watched all year. Glad to see Craig h have a chance to play first though.
by spfldbird on Mar 1, 2011 10:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i'm going to file this under "be careful what you wish for"
Glad to see Craig h have a chance to play first though.
and ask you to kindly never say it again.
LOY nominee.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't mean anything by it.
When Albert gets a day off someone has to play first base! Craig had a pretty rough day yesterday. 1st should hopefully be a little easier.
oh, i know
i was just joking (mostly)
superstitions and all.
Hey a post by lboros!
Always a nice surprise for us newcomers!
so there’s your silver lining, folks. don’t be blinded by it.
I think I will remain blissfully ignorant of the true effect of Waino’s absence for as long as I possibly can. Sigh
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
x
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
by d-dee on Mar 1, 2011 10:18 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
i was going for inconspicuous
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Psh, gamma's way off
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
not off, different
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
it's like an orange on a toothpick.
Not sure I've seen dumber baseball words: "Brendan Ryan became expendable after (Cardinals) acquired infielder Ryan Theriot." -Joe Posnanski
I've been holding off on ordering my copy for this exact reason.
Is there any way I can send a note to the publisher having any Waino material ripped from the guide before it is shipped?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i am sure digger will be happy to take care of that for you
only, there might be some collateral damage in the process too
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
wjere
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2011 11:03 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
ok. where is the lboros signal?
and
was there a quorum on the Berkman nickname?
I like Actual Puma.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think Crippled Lynx is picking up steam.
We should probably wait to see if he’s a statue in the outfield before making such an important decision.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Mar 1, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Or if his elbow remains in one piece
BSOHL won’t matter much if he has to roll the ball in to the infield.
by ArkansasTravs on Mar 1, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
He can just toss it to Edmonds after he catches it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
AND A HAPPY SAINT DAVID'S DAY TO YOU
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Ironic
I picked up the MSP for the first time yesterday. First baseball annual of any kind I’ve purchased.
The result? A sleep-deprived hangover of baseball goodness.
Great work, all.
I still would like to see Mitchell Boggs
get a shot at a rotation spot. His control is an issue, but I still am a big fan of his velocity.
by Hardcore Legend on Mar 1, 2011 11:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I've been hopeful for Boggs to emerge as a starter since his stellar performance agains the Cubs in '08.
Unforunately, it seems to me as if Duncan has him pegged for the ’pen.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I liked him as a starter, too
but his 2-3 mph extra jump in the pen, combined with the control issues as a starter, make me more than happy to keep him in the pen for high leverage situations.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
him and Motte combined make me ok with McClellan going to the rotation
by RasmustheRipper on Mar 1, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I agree 100 percent Rasmus
With Motte, Boggs, Salas and the potential of Sanchez, I think the right side of our bullpen will be just fine without KMac.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I like him in the 'pen
but would like to see him bring back the curveball this season, before he gets typecast as a ROOGY.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
KMac's control is an issue as well
if he can’t maintain 2.0 K/BB, there isn’t much margin for error. He doesn’t get swing-and-misses.
yeah, I'd rather have Boggs get a shot than McClellan
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
as a starter?
he’s had several chances and he wasn’t very good at it
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
I just looked at the box score from yesterday's game.
In mop-up duty for T.H. Eriot at shortstop (even though he was replaced Skip in the batting order), Tyler Green went 2-for-3 with a runs scoreed and a stolen base. Link to yesterday’s box score.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
This line
they gave wood’s starts to kyle farnsworth and andrew lorraine, who went a combined 7-14 with an ERA in the low 5.00s.
is what really worries me about Waino’s injury. Instead of losing 6 WAR, I’m afraid we’ll replace a 20-10 Wainwright record with a 7-14 by someone(s) and, thus, a net loss of 8.5 games in the standings.
agreed ---- that's what happened
to the diamondbacks too. they lost webb’s 5.0 WAR plus another 2.0 WAR to sub-replacement-level fill-ins. if that happens to the cards too, they’re toast.
I admit that I'm still in the denial phase
but the photo on the cover is pushing me toward depression. Still, always love to see you around VEB, Larry!
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Mar 1, 2011 11:34 AM EST reply actions
Available for download?
Not living in the US, and having very little faith that the Argentine postal services could actually deliver, can anybody tell me if MPS is available in electronic format for download as well?
ditto Thailand. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
ah
the sweet memories of all lowercase articles.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
reminds me of.....
saturday.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Beat me to it
Now think about your Dad.
by purple_haze on Mar 1, 2011 11:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
good old riverrat
maybe i should have ended that sentence with by lboros. my mistake, i’ll try harder next time!
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
havent posted in a year
but a post from lboros will bring me out
i agree with the rotation being much more like the 09 dbacks than the 07 cards; i honestly cant say how disappointing it was every time carp had a setback (felt that to a lesser extent last year with penny), and i also wonder if carp had the TJ that april could he have been better down the stretch than he was in 08?
Pujols is the greatest Cardinal in my lifetime.
anyone going to copy and paste the gameday link today?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Here
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
thanks
now cross your fingers that it will load for me
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
It's not working for me
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
I have always liked Rooney, a lot.
I think he’s a good foil to Shannon’s goofiness.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
How long into the season
before he starts doing the whole Green Acres bit?
@aaronjscott
by musialsuspects on Mar 1, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a KMOX feed online
that doesn’t have some fat idiot blubbering on about liberal media?
@aaronjscott
by musialsuspects on Mar 1, 2011 12:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm... baseball
i just, don’t… i just don’t know how to feel!
Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang
MIKE FUCKING SHANNON
IS ON MY COMPUTER-RADIO
I AM SO HAPPY
Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang
yeah, im not paying $20 for a ST game.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I live here!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Yeah, it's a good deal
I’ve been doing it for a couple years.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I already have it for my iphone.
I’m not paying twice for a free product.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I saved money
by not buying an iphone.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
"work" phone!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
oh yeah, how's the iphone working for you?
Do you notice any difference in call sound? dropped calls? etc.
Haven't dropped a call
and really only use it on speaker, but call sound hasn’t been an issue.
Apps are all pretty fast. As is the internet. My only minor complaint would be with the keyboard, but it’s more a fault of my lousy meat hooks.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I've never used it before so i don't miss it!
looks cool, though.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Think I found it
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2011/03/01/listen-cards-lineup-set-for-kmox-debut/
click the play button below the article?
You had me excited there
for a second…
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
Try this.
It won’t let me because I’m out of U.S. territory. KMOX
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
I think this link is stuck in 1937.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Holliday woooo!
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
And the first "Get Up!" of the year
Life is good.
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 1, 2011 1:14 PM EST reply actions
Apparently MLB
is too busy looking for their dreamjob applicant to put Gameday up
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
Son of a...
no gameday, no radio. Such a good thing has just turned into frustration!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Maybe you can follow
@BJRains on twitter…he lives tweets but you may want to smash your screen based on what he writes.
Gameday is loading!
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
Perfect 1st for Carp
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
WHERE IS MY FREE RADIO LINK GRR
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 1, 2011 1:27 PM EST reply actions
The toad is dead fang, the toad is dead.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
seriously?
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 1, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
6
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that's fucking depressing.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 1, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Dear Ryan Theriot,
2-hit games. Do them all season long.
Sincerely,
I still miss Brendan Ryan
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
So
With Thirsty Joe Thurston and Aaron “True Grit” Miles gone, who’s my new whipping boy? The MIF? Seems lame..
Anyone buying tickets at 1 PM?
As a valued past buyer, you are invited to a Multi-Game Presale TODAY, Tuesday, March 1st beginning at 1:00 p.m. CT.
This Multi-Game Ticket Presale will allow valued past buyers to purchase tickets to three or more games before 2011 single-game tickets go on sale to the public.
The Cardinals seem to wait longer than anyone to start single game ticket sales.
for the rest of us.
by RollBirdsRoll on Mar 1, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
WHich I'm not sure why I'm bitching...i'll use stubhub anyway.
Disregard.
by RollBirdsRoll on Mar 1, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
this.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 1, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
OT
http://www.spearhead-entertainment.com/storage/charliesheen.swf
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions
is this a drill???
IS THIS A DRILL?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Rooney says he was looking to his pitching hand
But Molina was supposedly gesturing toward the hammy
i blame albert
if he signed an extension, nobody would’ve got hurt :-P
by hex706f726368 on Mar 1, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
FFS
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
stupid maple street press
d-dee, get that pic of garcia off of there STAT
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
you've GOT to be shitting me.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 1, 2011 1:49 PM EST reply actions
notgoodnotgoodnotgoodnotgoodnotgoodnotgood
/sits in corner rocking back and forth
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 1, 2011 1:49 PM EST reply actions
wait, WHAT
Anyone with radio REPORT NEWS AS SOON AS WORDS COME OUT OF MIKE SHANNON’S MOUTH
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
you know full well words coming out of his mouth will not necessarily be informative.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
ANYTHING
AS YOU MAY BE ABLE TO sEe I AM VERY INSECURE AT THE MOMENT AND WILL GO BERSERK FOR ANY INFORMATION WHATSOEVER ALBEIT DRUNK DRIVEL
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
by hr on Mar 1, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
seriously.
gameday is poop.
Gritty Bloop Single
Gritty Bloop Single
Gritty Hustle
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Mar 1, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
i.e. silver lining
“if the 2011 cardinals’ season unravels, it won’t be on account of might-or-might-nots regarding their ace. they have the luxury of certainty. more important, they have a luxury that no other ace-deprived contending team has enjoyed in recent memory - a six-week period to restructure their staff. they won’t have to rebuild on the fly. if this had happened at any point during the season, or even late in training camp, kyle mcclellan probably would be ruled out as a replacement. he wouldn’t be conditioned for starting, andhe’d be too deeply implicated in the bullpen usage patterns. if you have to lose an ace pitcher, you might as well lose him at a point when you have more than a month to reshuffle the deck and slot your remaining guys into their new roles.”
exactly what I was thinking…. except, now Carp got injured?? no f’n way!
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 1:52 PM EST reply actions
hopefully not a big deal
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
I can't figure out why it's not letting people in
20 teams, only 12 signed up
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
i'm getting "if all teams return from last year... there won't be room, remove teams who will not be rejoining" blah blah blah
VEB 2010 Fantasy Handegg Champion
shit
there’s some people that need to confirm or deny the email. hmm
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
I have made it so that others can join now
invites were waited on for 2 weeks, so now those teams spots are deleted and new teams can join
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
what's the league id and password?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
ohhhhh
i never read sigs
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
man it took a little digging in the settings to figure it out!
not sure how I found it lol
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
cool
thanks for playin
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
wonderful. i'm in
what are we doing for league dues? also, there’s stuff about keepers in there.. is this a keeper league?
VEB 2010 Fantasy Handegg Champion
last year we didn't have league dues
it’s not a pay league, unless everyone is ok with that… usually it scares a few people away, so I don’t want to make it an issue really.
I did a fanshot about the league… I think I’m going to keep it head to head wins (I have a smaller rotisserie league also). as for the draft and keepers, that’s up for debate. everything else is pretty set.
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
what the hell is the difference between Util and IF
?
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Any player can be a Util player.
If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.
ah
I’ll leave it then
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
IF is 1b, 2b, 3b, or ss
UTIL is any hitter.
Also, in regards to pitching stats, aren’t innings pitched and outs redundant? And with five RP spots and 16 teams it might be cool to have a holds category.
yeah I could get rid of outs as a stat
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
if I do have Holds I think there should be Saves too, right?
or is a Hold rewarded in save situations?
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
ah
didn’t notice you didn’t have saves. I recall your roto league had net saves. holds and saves are seperate, blown saves would only affect net saves, if you went with net.
I'm going with trying to not have too many stats
since I have the tendency to want to have as many as possible
I do have something similar to holds and saves on there: inherited runners scored
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
oh yeah
I think having both Holds and Saves is probably a more accurate way
already have earned runs as a stat too
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a combined Holds+Saves stat?
I have that in my ESPN league, helps keep the number of stats down.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Mar 1, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going over to ESPN for my rotisserie league
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
I've been in a league
for a while that uses holds and saves; it makes things a bit more interesting, in my opinion.
I'm going with the nutty combination of
inherited runners scored and blown saves
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
I'll do holds and saves in the ESPN one
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
so just one more team needed if we go with 16 teams
wanna do that instead of 20?
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
i'm in a 16 team league
with smaller rosters than this one and the waivers are already a wasteland there. i can’t even imagine how ugly it would be with 20 teams of 27-30 players each.
could be fun though.
yeah, 16 should be good I think
that was the amount last season so what the hell
I’m going to keep tweaking the scoring settings tonight til I get it down to less pitcher stats. down to 9 hitter stats, that’s a good number for me
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds good to me.
A nice, balanced number of teams.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Mar 1, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
IDEA: Let's use the message board in the league to go over all these details!
That way it’ll all be in one place, plus we’ll stop irritating the natives.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
Honestly you could just use a fanshot for convenience
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
everything sounds fine.
i personally tend to be against keepers and pro-auctions, but i’ll play either way.
VEB 2010 Fantasy Handegg Champion
ok, I think I'll ditch the keeper element
and think about the auction thing
spring training is here. preseason story unfolds. who will start 3rd base?
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
I was wondering this as well
"Pain is only in the mind. For me. Others, no." - Pornstache
"I also remember he threw the ball back to me harder then I threw it to the plate, so that was a little bit worrisome to me." - Boggs on Motte
Fuck no
Carpenter walks 1, strikes out 2, throws 32 pitches (17 strikes). PD staff is efforting to get explanation on trainer’s presence. #stlcards
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
fuck my life....Bernie says he needed to be escorted
Off the field with a leg injury
by mick311 on Mar 1, 2011 1:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Next year's MSP better not have any players on the cover
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions
by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2011 1:53 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
how about Aaron Miles?
Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang
by Aranathor on Mar 1, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they cannot put pictures of human poo on the cover
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Eff it
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Mar 1, 2011 1:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
size your picture, damnit.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 1, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
no.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
but I will find better, smaller ones
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Mar 1, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
is this a new meme?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 1, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
it's like 70 years old
but sure!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I would love to do a bear grylls one right now,
but work doesn’t think I need access to memegenerator.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
TWSS
In the future, I for one, welcome our new Aaron Miles overlord.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jan 31, 2011 12:30 PM PST
by RosevilleRedbird on Mar 1, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
hey
I spent five minutes looking for a smaller one.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm sure someone here at VEB has a smaller one
and it won’t take 5min to find
duhhh, winning!!!!
Balls
Seriously considering going into a coma for 12 months
Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang
what did we tell you about the drinking!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i had to check urban dictionary for that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
12-15 months
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
I thought it was oblique/ribcage
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Would have been nice if Fox Sports brodcast
this game, instead of me being stuck with Bob Winkelman’s Good Fishing.
hopefully this was nothing serious....
I can’t imagine he would of pitched anymore than another inning or two if that. Hopefully they were just being cautious…
by mick311 on Mar 1, 2011 2:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
strauss
Carp’ showed no sign of obvious distress but was removed by trainer and escorted to clubhouse. No evidence of arm issue. Developing.
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
are you shitting me?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
All these hits on the first pitch...
between that and the 4 pitch walks, the pitchers should report even earlier next year.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
leg? arm? hip? neck?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
Since I can't find the game on the radio
Time to hit up the liquor store..sounds like a Steel Reserve day to me
Christ, it's not that bad.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Is it an energy drink or malt liquor?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
it was a joke
the can looks like an energy drink
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
oh baby
I visited my brother one afternoon last fall and told him I could only stay for one beer. He gave a tall Steel reserve. I don’t recall the events of that night, but I came home around 2am.
Or what? You’ll release the dogs, or the bees, or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?
WTMFF IS GOING ON?!?!?!?!?!
do we pitch with position players all season?
or are the GOB trying to force us to trade Pujols for an entire starting rotation???
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
At this rate, my liver will fail sometime early next week
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 1, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
hehe
you said poop
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 1, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
strauss again
Unbelievably, the trainer is out for Mitch Boggs, who is grabbing his lower back while leaving the field. Boggs does look in some distress.
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
and more
Predictably, Dave Duncan looks rather agitated.
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
What the fuck...
Quickly turning into the worst season I’ve ever lived through
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
I log-in after my lovely run with dog and child, and THIS is what you people have for me?
Screw you all. I’’m going to take a bath. Will consider all of this information later.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
what about baths with naked women?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 1, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Like you would know.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah, that was actually a bath with a naked woman.
She just happened to be 19 months old.
(I kind of hate baths, but I can’t shower with her wandering about, and she hates showers: baths it is!)
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
Doppelganger
Actually, ours likes showers. But whatevs.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
What? Please have your daughter send a nice letter extolling the virtues of the shower to my kid. Thanks.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
Pujols to Phillies for Halladay, Oswalt and Hamels
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Maybe instead of investing in players
We should invest in a trainer who is competent
by wizard11 on Mar 1, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
it's baseball season
No NBA references until at least november
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Ugghhh...
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
WTF do I need to sacrifce to make this stop?
Enough already.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Mar 1, 2011 2:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Joe Thurston and the third base bag
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
BOGGS TOO
WHAT THE HELL GOBS AHHH
/little late
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
captain obvious
Carpenter expected to address the media in about five minutes. No word yet on any apparent injury. We are headed down to the clubhouse now.
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
just canceled my MLB.tv and bought a brick of heroin
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Mar 1, 2011 2:21 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
good investment
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
If you know the right people, it does.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
a brick of heroin generally consists of 100 glassine bags and
costs anywhere from $200-1000. Or $50 in my case ( I know a guy).
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
these double plays better not be a reoccurring theme this year
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
We can put away the heroin
for now. These kinds of things happen early in spring to every club.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 1, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
No choice but to slam it, now.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
goold
dgoold Derrick Goold
Carpenter felt twinge in hamstring. Came out to be careful. Called it a strain. #stlcards
.. good news? i hope.
VEB 2010 Fantasy Handegg Champion
First base!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Stay out of the infield!!
Or what? You’ll release the dogs, or the bees, or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?
by Hootie Who on Mar 1, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I want to know about Boggs though.
Article just came out on stlcardinals.com about his value to this team and why he is not scheduled to go into starters program at ST
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
last word
Carp- left hamstring strain
Boggs- lower back strain
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
strauss adds the word serious after the boggs injury
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I hope its not actaully a hamstring strain
and Carp just calls a sore hammy a strain.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
already have the become despondent and lose hope as my fb pic and background
it fits the mood!
but hey, a tweak is still a tweak. get well soon, carp
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
MikeKimESPNAmerica Twitter
Charlie Sheen tells “20/20”: “You think I’VE got problems? Have you checked in on the Cards’ pitching lately?”
Great moments are born from great opportunity.
Follow me on Twitter @muwxman
by muwxman on Mar 1, 2011 2:35 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Carp needs to cure that strain.....with his brain
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Mar 1, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
then he'll come back healthy and want a raise
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I'm pretty sure Chris Carpenter is actually a warlock
with hands of flame, and tiger DNA.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Batista must be behind this
Sacrifice him to appease the gods
by RasmustheRipper on Mar 2, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
. . .
dgoold: Carpenter felt twinge in hamstring. Came out to be careful. Called it a strain. #stlcards
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
why are all these at bats ending on the first pitch?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
You have to swing
on the first pitch in spring training. It’s a rule. Just like every strikeout is three pitches and every walk is four.
… actually, Gameday doesn’t track pitches in the spring.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 1, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
you have to swing on the first pitch in ST games
if you don’t swing and it’s a strike, then the pitcher must throw two more strikes and you may not swing
if you don’t swing but it’s a ball, then the pitcher must throw 3 more balls without you swinging
It’s a little risky letting the first pitch go, since pitchers know of this rule, so they almost always throw first pitch strikes.
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
by hr on Mar 1, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
strauss is bitter again
Reporters escorted from Cards clubhouse w/training room closed, Boggs on table. Gonna be awhile, according to info minister Brian Bartow.
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Good. I'm all for pissing Strauss off whenever possible.
Would it be wrong to wish his head would explode ala’ “Scanners”????
by RollBirdsRoll on Mar 1, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Bring back Mulder
Gritty Bloop Single
Gritty Bloop Single
Gritty Hustle
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Mar 1, 2011 2:46 PM EST reply actions
Gameday Audio
Did I see somewhere that you could buy gameday audio and get two tickets to a cards game? Or am I just making that last part up?
Or what? You’ll release the dogs, or the bees, or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?
You should be able to get Gameday Audio
if you buy two Cardinals tickets. Just saying.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 1, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Here:
http://mlb.mlb.com/stl/fan_forum/cards_nation_details.jsp
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
excellent, thanks!
Or what? You’ll release the dogs, or the bees, or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?
hummel has a story with quotes up
i imagine he’ll keep updating it
here
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
mild hamstring problem?
according to hummel according to Carp
I couldn’t throw the next pitch. I couldn’t even put my foot on the ground.
this is mild?
carp doesn't feel pain like other people
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Hummel story doesn't sound so bad.
Unconcerned trainers, “didn’t appear” to be major, etc. we’ll see.
They amputated his leg right there on the field
He’s progressing nicely
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions
meanwhile
it appears Jon Jay has hit a 2 run homer
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
everybody's fine
At least, I’m choosing to believe Carp’s thing isn’t a real thing. This is, after all, the head in the sand edition.
Will getting drunk heal Carp and Waino?
I’m going to pretend that the Card’s health is inversely related to my soberness.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Are you a Piano Bar kinda gal?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Unpossible
“drunk piano” turns up no pictures of Billy Joel.
My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter
is Stav catching right now?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
DJ Toolz is signed into facebook chat
shouldn’t he be busy right now?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
awesome...
Joe Thurston playing 2nd for FLA
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Mar 1, 2011 2:59 PM EST reply actions
I think that would anger the GOB even more
Sacrifices are supposed to have meaning and value to those that give them. Thurston is kind of a spotted lamb.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Dinger Camp!
(and to a lesser extent, injury camp)
But hey, dinger camp! Join the party Mark Hamilton.
we don't need pitching
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Our guys will score plenty of runs
…for Ian Snell.
by paposse on Mar 1, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
is it too soon to start the "they can't score unless they hit it out of the park" bullshit
like we had last year
cause you know, HR runs are not as much worth as e.g. gritty bloop rbi’s ala miles
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
will carroll needs work
If you run a team site or blog, I’d be happy to talk with you about your team’s THR once they’re live.
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
bowling team names
for a school fundraiser. . . GO
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Team Bowling!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
How about...
The _ School Bowling Team!
If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.
by hr on Mar 1, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Pins for Pennies
or Pins for Pens
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Don't roll on Shabbos (or Shomer F'ing Shabbos)
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
by all4tookie on Mar 1, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They should get bright purple jumpsuits for their team.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
already getting messages from cubs fans
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Karma
is a bitch, Cubbies fans. That goes for you, too, Reds fans.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 1, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Fixed
Karma is a bitch, Cubbies fans. For you, Reds fans, karma is a whiny little bitch.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Mar 1, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Wait, karma's name is Brandon Phillips?
This is getting really off track!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
maybe he's a chameleon
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
tyler greene joined dingers camp for good measure
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....
Cold shower
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
well, for what it's worth
we dominated that one, pyrrhic victory though it might be
Now think about your Dad.
Ok did I skim that correctly?
Carp & Boggs dead hurt?
My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter
by TBender on Mar 1, 2011 3:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yes.
Boggs’s injury sounds more serious.
If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.
Luckily, Boggs is very replaceable
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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i dunno know about that
I expect great things in the reliever role from Boggs.
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
I honestly don't think he's any better than Salas
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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i don't know about that
Can Salas throw 98?
"Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone, Wainwright’s gone," he sang joyously." - Gomes
Is that relevant?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Most relevant
Is ‘Boggs’ a palindrome?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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this is required, peach fuzz is like discover card
Not accepted everywhere.
Yes, I am certain of this.
by Heisenberg on Mar 1, 2011 4:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The hell he is..
If KMac heads to the rotation, then we may very well have a bullpen problem without Boggs. Maybe Samuel or Reifer could step up, but that’s losing a lot of experience and neither one of those guys is super dependable.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I feel like out of all the positions, experience is least needed at middle relief
And you’re forgetting Salas and Sanchez.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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middle relief is an area we have a lot of depth
And I do think we have guys who could step in but Boggs has potential to be more than just a middle relief pitcher.
Jeff Luhnow came in my store a little over a year ago and he stayed and talked baseball with me for awhile. At the time he was praising Boggs and his ability and said the club viewed him as Franklins eventual replacement as our closer.
by mick311 on Mar 1, 2011 4:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
are you mixing up Sanchez and Samuel?
I do that a lot too, but I would imagine you meant Sanchez/Reifer…. I would think Samuel would be a few spots down behind Salas, Sanchez, Reifer, and possibly even King with him being on the 40 man..i
by mick311 on Mar 1, 2011 5:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I got them switched.
I meant Sanchez and Reifer. If KMac heads to the rotation, I would assume that Salas has pretty much cemented a spot in the pen for 2011. If Boggs were gone, then I would guess Sanchez and Reifer would be competing for a spot with Boggs as set-up man, Salas as the 7th inning guy and either/or of Sanchez and Reifer as the spot releiver.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Anyone with insider wanna tell me what Keith Law says about Carlos Martias?
Now think about your Dad.
I don't, but he's said previously that he loves him and that with a good year, can vault into the Top 10 (like Mike Trout did last year)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Oh wait he already says all that in the intro
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Nice writeup
Here is an excerpt:
If I was going purely off stuff, I could have ranked Matias in the top 10 or top 20 at worst, but given the lack of track record I kept it conservative and held him out of the top 50. Martinez has four pitches, two already plus in the fastball (up to 98) and curveball, and a good chance for a third plus offering in the changeup. He’s already shown excellent command and feel for his age and for someone who originally signed with another organization as a position player.
I thought he signed with the Red Sox as a pitcher
Guess not.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Strauss:
Boggs insists back not as bad as it appeared. Back off couple days then proceed
Now think about your Dad.
oh, thank heavans.
out a few days with a back injury never means anything bad.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon
soooooo ... how about Boog pitching?
maybe it’s actually a curse.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Damn damn
MatthewHLeach
Blog post on the rotation adjustments: zero doubt that McClellan is prohibitive favorite to win starting job.
Now think about your Dad.
---
Additionally, the adjustments get Dickson and Lance Lynn off of the same day. The two right-handers are likely the leading candidates to step in if McClellan should falter — or if a reliever were to suffer a significant injury, requiring McClellan to return to his relief role.
If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.
You know
Wainwright being done didn’t necessarily mean the season was over (though 6 wins is hard to replace). But McClellan replacing him is pretty much a guarantee that it is. He’s going to stress out the whole bullpen because not being a starter in several years pretty much means he’s not going to go deep into games. And there’s a good chance he’ll break down…
he'll be the #5 starter if he makes the rotation
it’s not like most #5 are expected to give you 7 or 8 innings
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
No but we now expect
Garcia and Lohse to give us 7 innings per. That may be a lot to ask.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I think a healthy Lohse is capable of close to 7
maybe Garcia, too. No one is gonna be the innings eater like Wainwright was. I think this just means that ?Tony is definitely gonna want a real swingman on the team this season.
Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes
Yeah, I'm with you there.
Salas looks like a good candidate for that kind of work. He strikes me as a pretty durable pitcher. Maybe not a spot-starter, but the kind of guy that can go 2 innings when called on.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Let's not freak out over losing McCllelan in the bullpen
With all the doom and gloom of him when ever he’s pitching in games, I thought people would be relieved to see him out of the bullpen.
Anyway, bullpen is the last worry that crosses my mind for this year with our other problems.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
I don't agree
Mcllelan has as good a shot at throwing 6-7 innings as any other internal candidate in the system. And I see little indication to show he will break down. I am sure LaRussa will manage him (and pretty much every other pitcher) with precaution. Another injury would definitely seal the deal.
I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff
Special Report: Peaboy to annnounce tomorrow plans to stay in downton STL
Great news for St. Louis. They had been looking at moving to a new building in Clayton or to another city outright. Hopefully instead of staying in their current building in the middle of the Gateway Mall, they’ll build a new tower in BPV.
End of non-baseball related news.
2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!
LOY nominee
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I found it.
And will gladly accept any award for not doing anything. But watch.
jp
Lurker of the year.
Congrats, you’re up for a prestigious, made up award.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
who would be in favor of a fanshot
where all the comments are cursing?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
no, for us.
so we don’t turn into them
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
complete sentence cursing!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Only
if it’s in palindrome form.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 1, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
song lyrics might be going too far.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Question: So is Maple Street Press available if I were to go to a Barnes and Nobles?
Or is this a buy only online type thing? Heck can I get this at a Schnucks or Walgreens just because it is so much easier to get from there?
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
i saw it at walmart. may just depend on the particular newsstand.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I saw it at Barnes & Noble today.
If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.
Don't know if this has been posted yet
But our very own DanUp along with Dayn Perry are on the latest FanGraphs audio. I laughed, I cried, but mostly I laughed, because these guys are funny and make jokes. You won’t learn anything new about the Cardinals, but I think we all know that Dan Moore’s deep and soothing voice is, well, a clinically-proven aphrodisiac (metaphorically speaking…maybe).
Dan's voice is nothing like I thought it would be
It’s kind of turning my world upside down right now.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
He also writes like a short person
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Such a fascinating thing to say about someone's writing.
DanUp, is your writing funny, sharp,and depressing? Maybe “short” is code for “Jew.”
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
it's only depressing when stuff happens to people's elbows. and shoulders.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
journey
the best part was Jon Miller not knowing who Journey was. that was a fun listen
imagine all those young families
bringing Bambi home on BluRay…. without knowing the ending.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Heh....I laugh at your future black out programming.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Max Scherzer
this guy should have been a Cardinal, dammit! How many guys born in St. Louis and initially drafted by the Cards before rejecting them and going to play for Mizzou, and having heterochromia, will there ever be again?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2011 6:44 PM EST reply actions
Should have just stuck a pic here, instead of making it a link.
There.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't need to see that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it doesn't matter, because it sees YOU.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
which guy is it?
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Are you not following the thread?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
you just didn't get my joke
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Danup,
I think you will find this of interest.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think the GOB hate me and that my fate is linked to the Cardinals
I was miserable through Janruary and everything was going fine for the Cards; no injuries, prohibitive favourites for the division, Pujols negotiations going well.
Early February; i start to feel better; Pujols negotiations breakdown, is not signed.
Late Feb / March: Happiest i’ve been in months, meet guy and start great relationship; Waino injured, mass hysteria in Cardinal nation, every single pitcher in the birds on the bat feels ‘twinge’.
Coincidence?
Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang
Dump him now.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
well
if it’ll bring Adam back, and make Albert sign…
Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang
You also have to be honest with him and tell him that's why you're breaking up with him
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions
It's not you,
it’s Albert.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Nah, stick with him, but try to get into big fights whenever the Cards need a boost.
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
well i'm back to being miserable & the Cards still have their problems
so i don’t think it’s you, if anything mate it’s me. it’s alllllllllllllllll me
duhhh, winning!!!!
Balls
I see the Jay vs Craig debate is starting to build steam again
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 7:09 PM EST reply actions
3 dingers today, eh?
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Craig = right handed, good at hitting
Jay = left handed, good at fielding
They’re definitely fighting for different positions on the team
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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yeah
just trying to have fun with the both hit 2-run homers thing
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
With your clam out?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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dammit
http://www.fangraphs.com/projections.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&type=zips
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 8:11 PM EST reply actions
What am I missing here?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
by StanTheManFan on Mar 1, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
ZiPS Projections Coming Soon
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
They're at Baseball Think Factory
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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being lazy
want them all in the same place
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Tomorrow is an RB post,
I’m afraid of what will happen.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2011 8:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Theriot gets a 4-week injury and Tyler Greene goes 3/4 with a HR and spectacular D?
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
If Jay and Craig keep this up, they will be a helluva PH duo
if they can stave off the stav
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 8:28 PM EST reply actions
did facebook win best picture?
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
of course not, dummy
the Academy is way too pretentious to give an award to an American film
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Yeah that was bullshit
Though Best Picture is at least somewhat defensible
Best director, though, should’ve gone to Fincher
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I would articulate why I can't stand the Oscars
for the complete up-its-own-ass pretentious parody-of-itself farce its become, but the dude at filmdrunk just does it so much better. First two articles here pretty much sum it up.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
That guy and
The Filthy Critic should hang out together.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Mar 1, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
One word:
Titanic? Crash!?
honestly they’ve screwed up much more egregiously in the past. They also have an annoying habit of giving make up awards to actors they’ve screwed in the past. People were pissed that Denzel got his hardware for training day and talked about it being racist. In actuallity, Denzel was screwed earlier when Pacino got it for scent of a woman, which was a makeup for his being screwed even earlier.
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
by hazel on Mar 1, 2011 11:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So, basically, in about 25 years
that girl from True Grit will get one. And it will be for best actress in a LEADING role, damnit.
For her role in Saw XXIV
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
by hazel on Mar 1, 2011 11:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Fun fact
Citizen Kane didn’t win an Oscar!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Neither did Toshiro Mifune!
Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor
by hazel on Mar 1, 2011 11:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Truly a crime.
Just watched Seven Samurai again this weekend.
Boog woulda.
by The Continental on Mar 1, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Welcome to the Twitter world
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Thanks!
So… would Posnanski actually see that tweet you sent him?
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
He should, yeah. He probably gets a lot, though, and skips over a bunch
When I get a message tweeted at me, it’s like Christmas
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verrrry interesting. Good luck with your interview. To bed with me!
If it's a meme, or looks like it might be a meme, I do not get it.
May no Cardinals pitchers be injured in your slumber
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Mar 1, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
A great good night wish.
I am also pretty much heading off to bed. Good night VEB, perhaps I will be by tomorrow but tomorrow is a very busy day as well.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
what was best picture
I spaced out when they announced it
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
King's Speech
won Film, Director, Actor, and Original Screenplay
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
huh
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
there was a joke no one under 50 has seen it (excluding film geeks obviously)
Trying to figure if that’s true – the more people I ask, the more it seems true
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
Talk about jinxes...
Comparing our club to the Cubs….circa 1999, it doesn’t matter.
My name's not Richie. My name is Dick. Dick Allen.
wow
http://www.takepart.com/news/2011/02/28/bike-rage-driver-runs-car-into-critical-mass-cyclists
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
is that the one in brazil?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
according to the link, yes
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
had heard about that a few days ago
incredibly fucked up, and stupid
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
dude had to be on an 8 ball or some shit
Viva El League (ID# 75036) password is cardinals
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
So I have a phone interview at 9:00 tomorrow morning
Gotta be charismatic while runnin’ tired
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You have shown me nothing but bad experiences with Red Bull
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It's fine when you're drinking it
but don’t plan on sleeping that night . . .
RED BULL!
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
Yep
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i guess the team you'd be doing it for would be the s-cards?
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
No they're separate things
I already have the S-Cards scoring gig
Tomorrow I’m interviewing for a summer internship at their home office
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cool.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ah, i see
i thought you were going to be one of those guys that counts batted ball types or something.
the internship should be cool. good luck
Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter
...That's probably basically what the internship will be haha
See how well the pitcher hits their spots, etc.
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so if I don't like how things are scored, can I throw stuff at you?
or are you talking about the dream job?
Hey I'm doing this unofficially!
Throw it up towards the press box
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Well y'all looks like it was another thrilling day in the life of Cradinals' baseball.
It was also a thrilling day for me (read: Zero free time from 7:15-11:00). Tomorrow Dabo Swinney and me will be taking a picture with my license plate.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
*Googles Dabo Swinney
*still means nothing
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Okay.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Filed under soon-to-be-fired Clemson football coaches
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions
by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Not this year.
That would a really dumb move since he’s pretty cheap and just got an awesome recruiting class. Next year is another story of they aren’t better.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Although he did get a nice raise.
But I still think he’s cheaper than for next year than what they would have to hire to make our insane fan base happy.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I've heard that the faithful aren't too thrilled with him, regardless of his recruiting abilities
If he has another bad-to-mediocre year this year, it could be all she wrote for him. They took a major step back this past season.
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by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
That's basically what I said.
He’ll be here for sure next season but if they don’t get better he should be really worried. Also in my experience, and maybe it’s just my friends, there seems to be a big disconnect between what the older fans think and what the students and younger people think. Now since the older fans give significantly more money to athletics than the students do their voice gets heard a lot more and listened to more. I think most of last year’s problems were Kyle Parker. Should Dabo have put in Boyd more often? I think so but I can see Dabo’s position too. Also some people are a little happier now that he fired his OC. But like I said above it all depends on next season.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Also many of our fans could be classified as slightly...unstable.
Pretty much I think they all usually need take a couple chill pills.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Oh I see
When I said “soon-to-be-fired” I meant after this season. They’re not going to fire him between now and September unless he goes on a murdering spree.
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by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
See I just interpreted things differently.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
NCAYFT!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2011 11:59 PM EST reply actions
Dead VEB is dead
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indeed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and the real world says I'm going to bed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
holy crap first 2 days of work have been busy this week
kinda nice actually, went by really fast
spring training is here. preseason story unfolds. who will start 3rd base?
turn it up to '11
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2011 12:53 AM EST reply actions
Well, I went ahead a did it.
I ordered a NOOK eReader (if you watch porn on it, does that make it a NOOKe Reader?). Going to try to root it and possibly put Honeycomb on it. Fingers crossed.
Boog woulda.
I agree...
I’ve had a few, injuries out the wazoo, and no one here to vent to. FML. Oh, and I forgot the other bad news of the day… KMac is apparently getting the nod as numero five-o barring some unforeseen injury or screw up. Ugh… What a bad week. I really want Mac in the pen. The pen is gonna be stressed enough without Waino. Mac goes 6 tops. I would rather see Lynn get a shot first. He chucks the sauce and he’s a starter. Not a consistent bullpen piece.
"A slick way to out-figure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure." ~ Whitey Herzog
i'm actually freaked out that KMac is still on the team
i don’t trust him, i don’t trust him at all
duhhh, winning!!!!
Balls
I dont trust him either...
but he’s been decent in the pen. the pen is gonna taxed like a mf this season and i don’t see the benefit of removing him from it. that’s only going to add to the taxing. and he’s starting then. i’ll need multiple beers and a couple xany bars just to get through a kmac start. i’d rather see a young gun, packin heat, with some upside as our #5. i’ve seen enough of kmac (i only call him that cuz it shortens things.. not cuz he deserves a nickname) to know i don’t want him starting.
"A slick way to out-figure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure." ~ Whitey Herzog
Lynn or Millwood should be #5 & that's only if Carp's hammy heals before the 31st
if not, Lynn AND Millwood should be 4 & 5. leave KMac in the pen, just don’t bring him in when the games tied.
duhhh, winning!!!!
Balls
forgot to mention it was good to see & read LB again
it’s always a pleasure to have the Godfather bless us with his words of wisdom & drop knowledge on us like only he can
duhhh, winning!!!!
Balls
This is the third consecutive year that I've purchased MSP Cardinals annual
I had to pay additional $18 for international shipping in last 2 years, but this year they reduced the shipping fee to $14. Very nice. Can’t wait to receive the book!
Cardinals fan from Korea
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