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The Cardinals and the Abraham Nunez Clause

My expectations for any Cardinals team in the compete-every-year era can be divided among three recent vintages—the 2008 squad that kind-of-competes and could sneak into a division title; the 2001 squad that will compete in any given year and probably make the playoffs; and the 2005 squad, which makes me swoon, a little. 

All these teams, usefully enough, had multiple all-star-caliber performances; if you look at the top of their WAR graphs you'll see, at least, a familial resemblance. The 2001 team had J.D. Drew doing his next-Mickey-Mantle thing and then getting hurt, not to mention a peak Jim Edmonds year and Albert Pujols's just-put-him-somewhere rookie season; 2005 had the canonical MV3, minus Scott Rolen and plus Chris Carpenter; and 2008 featured Pujols at his best and Ryan Ludwick at his brass-monkeyest. 

At that, at least, the Cardinals have done a fine job hedging their bets this season. In addition to Pujols and Holliday, who are being paid to be MV2, they've got Adam Wainwright, Colby Rasmus, Chris Carpenter, and Lance Berkman with better-than-Ludwick odds of putting together an All-Star season. 

But if I think about that 2005 team compared to the ones that came before and after it, lately it hasn't been Albert Pujols riding a unicorn or Brad Lidge going catatonic that shows up to complete the mental image. It's Abraham Nunez. 

I don't like it, either.

Star-divide

Abraham Nunez joined the Cardinals with a career bWAR of -0.7, left them with a career bWAR of 1.3, and finished his career at -0.9. He's the rare example of a Tony La Russa Scrappy Infield Hubris play both working out perfectly and failing to wear out its welcome, and he's a perfect representative of a team that, despite almost resisting it in places, managed to be adequate everywhere. Their biggest problem was at backup catcher.

The same, really, is true of the 2001 and 2008 teams. 2001 was hamstrung by La Russa's inviolable grit-crush on Mike Matheny and the collapse of several load-bearing rotation members, but Albert Pujols and Craig Paquette, of all people, held things together at third base and in the outfield, while Woody Williams and Bud Smith combined to be most of an excellent starter behind Darryl Kile and Matt Morris. In 2008 the Cardinals got excellent defense and surprise adequacy out of Adam Kennedy and Cesar Izturis, and solid work from Braden Looper, Kyle Lohse, and Todd Wellemeyer that they had no right to expect.

Here's my contribution, then, to Viva El Birdos Graph Abuse Week: A look, very roughly, at the Cardinals' runs created and saved above average in these three tiers, across each position. (That is: I've sacrificed some accuracy by running the numbers myself in terms of runs created above average, because that was the only way to get batters' stats by position. Look at the shape, which is accurate, and not the numbers, which probably aren't.)

The playoff teams don't just have large advantages on runs above average, they also have less below-average play dragging them down; -14 and -13 runs for the 2005 and 2001 teams, compared to -37 for the pitching-challenged 2008 club. If you further atomized the rest of the pitching staff I think you'd see this more clearly—the not-quite-there Cardinals clubs don't lack the star power, they lack adequacy, in all its forms. (The 2001 team, for instance, is made adequate or more-adequate at three positions thanks to the all-over-the-place work of Pujols and Paquette, and Nunez swooped in to pick up Rolen's exploded-shoulder batting numbers in 2005. It's difficult to replicate "sign a terrible player and have him hit 40 points above his career average" in every offseason, let alone "develop a Hall-of-Fame talent and vacillate about where to start him.") 

And it's that ability to stay average that worries me about the 2011 roster. Ryan Theriot, Skip Schumaker, Nick Punto—those are players who exist to keep a team above replacement level, and nothing more. The Cardinals were too busy fighting parochial battles about the way an infield should behave to deal with the way it should perform. That said, they did patch one sub-average hole by signing Jake Westbrook, and Lance Berkman gives them multiple routes toward soiid play in the outfield and frees Allen Craig up to be Craig Paquette, if you like that sort of thing.

I could see this Cardinals team fulfill any one of these rough outlines; the 2004 team, after all, got its above-average second base play out of Tony Womack, who makes Ryan Theriot look like Bo Hart circa Independence Day, 2003, and the 2008 team's second most-valuable position belonged to a minor league free agent. But I wish the 2011 team had given itself fewer areas in which they needed to rely on the Abraham Nunez Clause to push toward average. 

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by Mr.B4567 on Feb 22, 2011 7:11 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I had to rec

If for nothing else, the killing of fitty men.

by Macarver hater on Feb 22, 2011 7:53 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed.

Caption is win.

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by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I am concerned

about Carp declining because of age, and too many ground balls finding the way from left/center to right/center.

by Macarver hater on Feb 22, 2011 7:57 AM EST reply actions  

everyone declines, it's inevitable

but to me what really is remarkable about Carpenter is how little he has declined, just going by the numbers. The conventional wisdom is that he lost something off his fastball, and that he was throwing it less last year and relying on his curve. But, if you look at his stats, you’ll see that his pitch speed and type were pretty much in line with his career averages. He relied more on his curve, but not significantly more so. His FIP, while not as stellar as it has been in his best years, still was well below his career average. All in all, the guy is still one hell of a good pitcher, and while I expect him to have maybe a few more games this year when he gets knocked around, his starts will again generally be excellent I think (as long as he stays healthy, GOBs willing)

by mattyp on Feb 22, 2011 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Despite what

this hack has recently written on the subject, i am confident that Carp can withstand a dramatic decline for at least another year. If not… well let the GOB have mercy on us all.

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe P's article

should give everyone pause on the Cards offering AP a long-term contract that pays big money after the first 5 or 6 years

by CRay on Feb 22, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, but I would add not just Posnanski's article,

but the entire history of baseball (excepting Stan Musial) should give us pause.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

And Hank Aaron

But i agree with the sentiment.

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

And Rickey Henderson

but the way of thinking of it isn’t htat you’re paying him $30M for his age 40 year—it should be that you’re deferring ~$5M a year off of his age 31-35 season, and then calling that the last year or two of the contract.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Feb 22, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Carp only has to decline better than the #5 slot.

he’ll be invaluable herding the next generation into the pen. Waino to soften them up, Carp to loom fearsomely and tell them they’re tipping their pitches. as long as we don’t pay him like a #1 and doesn’t actually murder anyone on the mound, he can stay as long as he wants.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

i wonder if he'll eventually find himself on the staff on dave duncan's side..

i would very much support this

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

How many young up-and-coming fireballers would he devour, though?

If the answer is as many as “one,” I’m not sure this would be a good idea.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

by StanTheManFan on Feb 22, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

he doesn't eat people, he just helps them trip over their luggage

in all seriousness though, carp seems to have a very good eye for mechanics and introducing some discipline to younger generations can only be beneficial. shelby might have been terrified when carp approached him, but you can be sure he’ll never tip his pitches by tapping his glove again

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

It just seemed to me

that his starts last year were not as relaxing as the previous years. I really hope you are right and he continues to be the bad MF we have come to love and appreciate.

by Macarver hater on Feb 22, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Is there a "type" of pitcher that ages better than average? And where does Carp fit in?

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

a knuckleballer?

He doesn’t?

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

A Non-Power Pitcher

Someone who has to win by pitching rather than by just blowing people away.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Feb 22, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Nolan Ryan?

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 22, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Roger Clemens?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

randy johnson

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Feb 22, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

huh?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Feb 22, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Well a lot of power pitches would last a lot longer

If they were juicing like Clemens, so prolly not the best comparison.

by lopey986 on Feb 22, 2011 1:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What if a lot of power pitchers would last longer if they were not juicing like Clemens?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean like Walter Johnson or Bob Feller what a silly argument

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 22, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

not according to bill james. james would say power

Pitchers age better.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Feb 22, 2011 11:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It doesn't look like there's too much of a pattern, really

Just that good pitchers seem to age better if they can avoid injury.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Feb 22, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I imagine the prototype might be someone like Maddux

who always relied on pinpoint accuracy and movement on his fastball, rather than speed. But Maddux was a rare breed, most fastball dominant pitchers absolutely need that speed to be successful. Maddux was just so GD out of this world good at locating that he could get by without it.

by mattyp on Feb 22, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. That makes sense.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Pitchers who don't walk too many people.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 22, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Like Randy Johnson?

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 22, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Johnson started out with incredibly high walk rates but he dramatically cut down.

and he walked under 3 men per 9 for a solid decade.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 22, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay then you meant Nolan Ryan?

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 22, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan was an example to counter that power pitchers don't age well.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 22, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I am just yanking you chain a bit

of course people who put less people on base tend to last longer. Ryan lead the League in BB 8 times in his career but he also finished in the top 10 in WHIP 10 times and led the league twice in years that he posted 3.3 and 3.7 BB/9 respectively.

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 23, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

High end pitchers are probably the best bets for going pretty long in the tooth anyway

anecdotally, it’s certainly seemed that a lot of former Cy-types have been able to make adjustments and stay as at least lower-end all-star types until their early 40s.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Feb 22, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's really what I was thinking about.

I definitely have that impression, but I didn’t know if that’s backed up by numbers, and if so, if there’s a type of high-end pitcher that does this most successfully.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO

The rotation should be ADAM Westy Carp El Nino day off
 then we have power, junk, power, beatiful curve, and if necessary, Orange Slice

by Macarver hater on Feb 22, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

refreshing

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

heh.

I wouldn’t put ‘junk’ for westy. I might would use ‘dropball’. Junk=Wellemeyer

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

when I think through the oldsters off of the top of my head, there doesn't seem a pattern

RJ, Tom Glavine, Nolan Ryan, Curt Schilling, Greg Maddux, and Jaimie Moyer don’t seem to have all that much in common, as a group, other than having been good, and staying in the game into an old age.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Feb 22, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

RJ and Moyer weren't good until they hit their 30's right?

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy who fixed Moyer was the same guy who mentored Doc Halladay in HS

then fixed his delivery in the minors, an old legend in these parts named Bus Campbell

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 22, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

RJ was okay-to-good in his 20's, but made the leap to great at 30 by developing some control.

Moyer is a freak of nature.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Moyer is a genius

He knows how to use a hitter’s ego against him. The same was true of Maddux.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Feb 22, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Love this

“The Cardinals were too busy fighting parochial battles about the way an infield should behave to deal with the way it should perform.”

It sums up the organization’s line of thinking over past few years.

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Feb 22, 2011 8:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

2005

Although it didn’t end well, that season was a nice pick me up after that WS that never happened. My Father-in-law is a lifetime Dodger fan so we planned in advance to hit the May Dodger series at Busch. That of course, included the game where a poor throw brought Choi into Rolen’s path and altered Cardinal history. I was bummed about Nunez being the every day 3B but he really did well. Grud, Eck and Nunez all hit near .300 (with no power of course) but it was good enough.

The outfield of Reggie, Jimmy and Larry all had OPS’s around .900. Hasn’t been that good a unit in the OF since. Perhaps this season?

by paposse on Feb 22, 2011 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

Drew

I would not have guess Drew had the highest OPS on the team in 2001 at 1.027. If only he could have stayed healthy.

by paposse on Feb 22, 2011 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Russ Springer has retired, per Goold

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

2007 and 2008 seasons combined for Springer...

146 appearances, 116 IP
10 wins, 2 losses
2.24 ERA
1.006 WHIP
8.6 K/9

He was just awesome in relief over those 2 seasons.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN

http://twitpic.com/42k5po

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

Awesome

is what is is

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

it is very awesome

Just look at that arm!

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe slap some wings on him and say he's the tooth fairy

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

waino and puma will be in a commercial this year

pic goold

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

this?

http://twitpic.com/42kmoi

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

yes that is the same picture

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

not everyone can see the fb pic.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Waino looks like he's doing a Cap'n Morgan ad.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

there really should be more captions in this thread.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

"Seriously, we just don't talk about the cape."

“Doesn’t that get kinda… I dunno, awkward?”

“You get used to it.”

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

now explain Fredbird.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Cardinals pitcher Adam Wainwright and mascot Fredbird

pose on the set of their new reality show Shersey Chore.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions   5 recs

Somebody tell the Cardinals Aaron Miles

was signed by another team; they can get rid of all the footstools they put in so he could reach the top hooks in the lockers

by mattyp on Feb 22, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

"Yes, I have a little Captain in me"

“We really didn’t need to know that”

“Deal with it”

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

yes they can

it’s a public profile, you don’t have to be logged into facebook to see it

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

you're assuming

no one has facebook blocked.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

and if facebook is blocked, what makes you sure twitter and the affiliated websites aren't?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

DOOM

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

full circle

you get home and click on the facebook link
profit

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

nor am i

braintwin.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

you're not missing anything.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

being on facebook is also lame

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I like it.

But I have half-brothers who live in another state that I like to keep up with. I get to see their photos from their athletic competitions and stuff. The youngest is a world-class gymnast and is hoping to try out for the olympics in a few years.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

this is what facebook should be used for

plus keeping up with true friends who took jobs far, far away when school ended.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

FB is useful

but also kinda creepy if you think about it too hard. I just use it to post random BS and hit on VEBers

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

We appreciate it!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

get to work!

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

someone could just post the pic

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

They all read the terms of service the other day and are scared.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Qaddafi is on VEB.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

if he were, he'd say we're all on hallucinogens.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Qaddafi thinks VEB is a dog website.

I hope everyone has seen the photo from his address yesterday.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

i think this could be a coup (intended!) for Venezuela

new tourist campaign.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

The Michael Jackson showing up to court look always plays well.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He's definitely on Al Jazeera.

He’s been ranting for so long they just went to the bullpen for a new translator.

Boog woulda.

by The Continental on Feb 22, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

it's always the same clubhouse set-up.

for all of them.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

unless you mean

this is a sequel.

not sure how i’d feel about that.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

might have something to do with

always shooting them at Roger Dean.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

there's a larger lockerroom though. they have choices.

this is narrower, and they set it up the same way for every ad. probably because they know how to light it, quicker set-up.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

that would play well with certain demographics.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Danica Patrick as at camp too?

Intriguing.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Jamie Garcia

What are everybody’s expectations for him this year? My gut tells me he is due at least a slight regression. The man was amazaing last year, and typically, from non-stars, that is followed by a lesser year. Just curious what the going opinion is on that.

Hopefully Lohse can get back to normal. Having he and Westbrook throwing like Westy did for STL last year, would be a big boost to the staff, regardless of what Garcia does.

by Stanley1 on Feb 22, 2011 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

physically, it's like he has a new body.

I’m waiting to see what he’s going to do with that. he’s young, he’s generally in control, but if the kinesthesia is different enough, he’ll have some adjustments to make this year.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

WCBW?

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 22, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

have you seen the pictures?

there was no scuttlebutt coming out of pre-ST until Jaime came to camp.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I have not

Got any links? It’d be great if he has put on a bit of weight.

by sdrone on Feb 22, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

he's like superman

he could lucha.

i’m thinking it might be Post Dispatch albums. can’t recall, sorry.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I will

actually be surprised with a regression. I have a distinct feeling that Jamie will pitch the 5th spot assuming Lohse is healthy. I get the feeling that TLR wants to limit Jamie so he doesn’t fall off a cliff at the end of the year like last year. The last time TLR had a stud lefthanded rookie he turned him into a centerfielder. I don’t think he wants to do that.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Consensus seems to be

that Jaime will be a run worse in 11 than in 10. I can live with that. Tack a run onto his ERA and he’s still a very valuable pitcher.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

by StanTheManFan on Feb 22, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

that's a helluva consensus.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I was going to address Jaime Garcia next Monday.

Or, I can address Adam Wainwright.

I guess I might as well asked the audience: What would you folks prefer?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

One vote for Garcia

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Garcia

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Waino

it would be more interesting because of more years of data

by CRay on Feb 22, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

Maybe Garcia in a subsequent week? Or maybe they both can get the bgh treatment?

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Garcia

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Penny

oh, wait

Stupid offseason.

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 22, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

jAIME

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Garcia

The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be

by ANDYAK47 on Feb 22, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

OMAR

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
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by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Garcia

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Waino

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

waino would be an awefully short article

just slap awesome across each graph
white awesome a couple times
done

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

so your vote is jaime?

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

if anyone still GAF

article on the mariners mothership about boog and wilson

Ryan felt he was part of the Cardinals’ future, but isn’t looking back now.

“It’s a new experience, but I believe it’s for the better,” he said. "Change can be good sometimes.

“Did I see this coming? Absolutely not. But I’m excited about it. We’ll see what happens. I don’t know where I’ll be. I’m taking ground balls all over the place, and I’m just going to do what I’m told.”

Wedge is intrigued by Ryan’s energetic style and defensive promise. There have been reports out of St. Louis that he was often late to meetings and didn’t always take things seriously, but Wedge said he’ll judge Ryan by what he sees now for himself.

“I like his energy,” Wedge said. “He’s got a little bounce in his step. I like that. I think he’s going to be a gamer, too. Those are all pluses for me.”

The Mariners believe Ryan was hampered by the wrist problem that wiped out almost his entire Spring Training last year and that he could be closer to the .292 hitter from ’09.

[..]

“They’re saying we’re going to compete, but we’ll see how things break,” he said. "I’ve had an opportunity to play short the last two years and I’m very comfortable there. But it wouldn’t be terrifying to play second or tally up some innings at third.

“I was also very proud of the fact I got two starts in right field in St. Louis, though I don’t know that will happen here,” Ryan said with a grin, knowing that is Ichiro Suzuki territory. “But the point is, I’ll do anything to help the team win.”

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

sweet, boogs a gamer

we can hit him up on Playstation online and play The Show!

Funny, they think missing ST was a bad thing for him last year. Seems there are some other folks who feel the same way.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

So Boog will become a gritty gamer and once age catches up on his athleticism and he's not as good of a fielder, we'll get him back.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHA

Wedge is already saying gamer! Oh memories.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

how do you think they'll get along, CG?

good change for the boog?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

why are you asking me?

hehehe
now for the before midnight cat pic

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

cody, a visit from clemsongirl is a valuable moment in time.

go usurp someone else’s identity

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

...

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know.

I supported Wedge for a lot longer than most people but he really annoyed me at the end.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh dear

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there anyone that subscribes to scout.com

and can give us a synopsis of this article?

It is about the Cardinals non-roster invitees.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

Coincidence?

Check out the bottom of Nick Punto’s BR page.

Similar Batters: Nunez is #1

Have we found a Nunez proxy with which the Cardinals can return to the 100-win production of the 2005 season??

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

There are only so many Korean players for Freese to collide with, though.

We don’t play the Indians in interleague this year, so that takes care of Choo.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

What if nationality isn't so important as being from a nation with which America has been in an armed conflict (war)?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Is this taking all of history together or 20th century on up?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

OK, that's scary

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

okay, that ad for Royals baseball looks like a horror movie.

or, for the geek-inclined, like Miranda before Serenity got there.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:50 AM EST reply actions  

IT IS SPRING
MatthewHLeach Carpenter in live bp: impressive stuff, mostly weak swings against him, lots of swearing. #CarpBeingCarp 25 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

It feels good to be alive AMERICA

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:55 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

"lots of swearing"

Isn’t that a given when The Chris Carpenter is involved?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I miss calm Carpenter.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

no one said carp was the one doing the swearing

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

there's the hashtag

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree

I enjoy cranky, cantankerous, cruel, cursing, cocksure Carp.

On a tangential note, cocksure is a word that doesn’t get thrown around enough.

by mattyp on Feb 22, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Cocksure

Now there’s a term I haven’t used since the night I lost my virginity.

SD

by Gibby45 on Feb 22, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Not much need for it,

what with zoomzoom running around the house, and all.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

ZoomZoom running?

The kid is a sloth. Navel lint moves faster than he does.

SD

by Gibby45 on Feb 22, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

is that about where zoomzoom burst onto the scene?

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

How lucky can I be?

Do it once I get a hard headed sloth to give me angst for a lifetime. Trojans … strongly endorsed by ZoomZoom’s dad.

SD

by Gibby45 on Feb 22, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

USC BABY WHAT WHAT

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

daaaaaaaaaammmmmmnnnnnn

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I am not looking forward to the reunion

or would that be court hearing?

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

huh? matt's in camp.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Feb 22, 2011 8:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I just watched the Edwin Jackson incident again.

How is that Carp has not instigated a major brawl yet….oh…

IDGAFIFTMID

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Feb 22, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He's like a totally different guy on the mound post-2007 injury.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

"forget about me, motherf*cker?!"

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Feb 22, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

That was like as fired up as he had ever been before.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Waino did this to him.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Does this mean that Waino has a dark side waiting to break out?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd say yes.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

add in some hunting pics.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

...

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you saying this all started as a game of fist pump one-ups-manship?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe so.

Lots of wide-mouthed yelling followed. And then Carp became unhinged. I’d say he “won.”

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

there's a better one, but here goes

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

i just soiled myself.

that is a death glare. and it helps to explain why Beltran was frozen in place. Adam Wainwright, more of a badass than Medusa.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Feb 22, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Very nice.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

aHA! i found it. fasten your seatbelts.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

OW MY FACE

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The eye is staring right at me.

It knows my sins.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The last time I heard that phrase didn't end well

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

...it sure didn't.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 27, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I love this picture.

So, so much.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

this may be fanshot worthy

are they looking at skip’s feet in the man stew?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Lots of people put Skip's feet

into their manudo.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm still at the wicker

and rattan

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

"Is that porridge?"

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

blueberries, was it?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe it was raisins

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

how is he talking, eating porridge, and holding the mike?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

*with* the beard.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Headset maybe?

Perhaps The Cat is feeding him?

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

it comes up again later in that first clip

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

okay, it's past the halfway point

and the whole oatmeal and thing has reached a trainwreck stage.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

^and beard thing

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Such an awesome nickname.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Franklin doing his best Motte-and-glove impression...

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

HA HAHA HAA Skip's feet

“When he runs around the bases, it’s this pitter-patter.”
- Franky

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Skip Schumaker for Governor!

(Which would, incidentally, free up space on the roster.)

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

aha, the "little feet" has a source

Izzy and Flo’.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Skip is not a little person, apparently.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

okay, Franky just did a "hee-haw" sound.

they’re organizing a poker game
and taking shots at Strauss

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Franky votes for brisket.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The Cat asks if the calisthenics really matter

Franky: “What is this, the 1940s?”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Franky just did a cougar "purr"

oh my.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

that was quite entertaining, thanks

wish there was a video to go with it

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

so does this mean there will be porridge screenshots?

hoping for subject lines.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps.

Here is a shot of said porridge.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

And miscellaneous photos from the get-together.

All of this stuff…the audio, the video, photos…courtesy of InsideSTL.com.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

did something happen here yesterday

so that now everyone is explicitly citing the sources?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

We were discussing VEB and SBNation guidelines the other day.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

can you kindly point me to that discussion smallpants

i’d like to read it

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

it was saturday morning, I believe

too busy lazy to look it up. Do it yourself, chick.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

who you calling chick boy?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

that's racist

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

wait, what?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

"boy" can be a derogatory term to describe a person of color

this is on the test.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

But you're white, so it isn't racist. BOY.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

easy honkey.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

who yanked your chain

get back in the kitchen

/kidding, please don’t stab me

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

She's got the barefoot and pregnant down.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a little testy today.

Getting the 5th ultrasound in a few hours. Hope to find out gender. Mainly I’m nervous. It’s a very strange thing growing a human.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Good luck,

are you going clothes shopping directly after the appointment?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Shit.

I’m not buying ANYTHING. We’re going to let the gifts flow in.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure!

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

good luck

does it matter what it is?
also, can your ultrasound tech recognize a velociraptor?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The machine is very new, so it should be able to detect non-humans.

I honestly don’t care whether it’s a boy or a girl.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

spants, what do you do all day long as a pregnant lady?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Satisfy her weird food cravings

Peanut butter, cabbage, and ham sandwich? YES PLEASE

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 22, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I do eat more often, it seems.

But I haven’t wanted or eaten anything strange.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Same thing I did all day long as an unemployed person.

Clean. Cook. Read. Dick around on the internet.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey guys!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

See also: Students

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

well, when the weather gets warmer

i’ll take you out for icecream/custard/whatever else we want to stuff our faces with

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet!

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

are you going to share the US results with us?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll probably post it to Twitter.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

this kid is going to be so social networking savy.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

heh

It will probably have it’s own Twitter feed.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

which means it will get dragged over here

like the bra incident.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll tell you guys.

It will just hit Twitter first.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Just treat us like we're 2nd class

its fine

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

There could be 100s more comments by then.

I don’t want to get locked into reading them on my phone, which is what would happen if I logged in from it to share the non-baseball related news.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

you should post it on your kids acocunt and then RT it.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a good idea.

But that requires coming up with something clever that I’ll want to stick with between now and then. Not impossible, but seems unlikely. BabySpants. MiniSpants. SpantsJr. LilSpants.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Spantsosaurus

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

VELOCISPANTS

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

heh

Monster Spants.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Spantsceratops

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

congratulations

clever girl it is

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

LilSpants

If your child ever goes into the rap business before the age of 15

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 22, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

ZoomSpants

I’m all yours if you want or need parenting tips.

SD

by Gibby45 on Feb 22, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Parenting advice

Didn’t your parenting style produce zoomzoom? Not sure that’s the right way to raise a velociraptor.

by WizardofOz1982 on Feb 23, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

minipants

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

how about a hashtag?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Might be better for now.

I’ll keep thinking. It’s helping me pass the time.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought that was because someone

(fang?) Didn’t understand the complexities of female undergarments

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Not Fang.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

trust me.

i understand the complexities of female undergarments.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 22, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Hanging out with Bobo?

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I have this nagging fear

that stacks and stacks of VEB transcripts are gonna show up some day to bite me when I am called in for a congressional hearing.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

you shouldn't talk about the past

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We are in Time Magazine.

Things are getting serious around here.

FanShots now require annotated bibliographies in APA style.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

you're serious?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Not serious about the bibliography.

Serious about Time Magazine.

You didn’t hear?

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

if he were serious it would be MLA

what kind of english grad student do you take me for?

by DanUpBaby on Feb 22, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

well since i always believe everything i read on veb...

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

That's right!

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

VEB was mentioned

just after a delightful ten questions with rapper Mos Def, but before a scathing guest article regarding child labor laws in New England by Charles Krauthammer and a whimsical column on the lack of paper clips in modern America by Joel Stein.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I didn't think Kraut wrote for Time anymore

Other than that, this could all be true.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He doesn't. I get my grumpy Kraut in the NY Times now.

I was going to use Fareed Zakaria, but they’ve been working that guy to the bone lately! He needs some fictional days off.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh lord, how I did hate APA

I hated MLA too though. In fact I hate the citation busywork altogether. I’m sure by now kids have automated computer programs that do that crap for them.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly!

Actually I just am not the kind of person who would ever enjoy writing scholarly stuff for a living. I actually enjoyed writing in the context of a class very often, but to have to worry so much about standards would be so annoying to me.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

EEEEEH-XCELLENT!

thanks

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

WE WILL NOT FORGET YOU, JASON LARUE.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to leave the basement

so I’ll stop around where the art dealer made a pass at The Cat.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Fresh towels please.
MatthewHLeach‎ Amaury Cazana stands in against Shelby Miller… And Cardinal Nation swoons. #stlcards
Twitter – seconds ago

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

AMERICA

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone else think that

if a shelby pitch connects with amaury’s bat, it forms a connection like Harry and Voldemort’s wands? their powers bind them together!

/errm….what?

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Feb 22, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

antimatter brother

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Miller: Once i was but the learner now i am the master

Amaury: You can’t win Shelby, if you strike me down i will become more powerful than you can possible imagine

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

er...possibly

that’s…the…first thing that’s ever gone wrong

by mattyp on Feb 22, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

There aren't enough towels on the planet

Maybe Cazana can reach up to the moon and hand us a couple of towels that astronauts left behind

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 22, 2011 1:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

what do you need towels in a tube for?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

pic from Leach

it happened

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Link

or it didn’t happen. I want some damn video of Cazana swingin’ the lumber!

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 22, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

ordinary observers would see both a wave and a particle.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

no

it’s supposed to be cazana vs. martinas!!!!

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

...Navratilova and Hingis?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

umm... sure

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Fortunately the three we are relying on...

Skip, Theriot, and Punto all have positive value in their careers and in recent seasons.

Jimmy Ballgame for 2011 RFer!!!

by cardzfanbub on Feb 22, 2011 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

Can someone explain

UZR to me? I keep hearing that Theriot is going to be a bad shortstop and we are sacrificing defense, but is it going to be that bad? I’m guessing that a positive number means you get to a ball beyond the normal zone and a negative number means you let a ball get through the normal zone. Zero is a perfect shortstop within the normal zone.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

BTW

Statistical Analysis takes time to learn…

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

So why the fretting over Theriot at short. He seems exactly average.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Because going from awesome to average is still a downgrade.

Hopefully his bat makes up for it.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

There is also the age factor that is concerning.

Theriot was about average at SS. Now he is on the wrong side of 30, and approaching a place where it is not uncommon for middle infielders to experience significant falloff in skill on offense and defense. His offense is already declining. Hopefully he bounces back, but I think the worrying is justified even if the outright anger is not.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it just doesn't seem like a move that was made to improve the team on the field

swapping him for schumaker is an upgrade, but swapping him for ryan seems to sacrifice upside in favor of scrappiness.

by DanUpBaby on Feb 22, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

over-rated

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

when you pitch to contact two about average behind you won't do it

especially if you had better for much less

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose

I guess if you have a pitch to contact philosophy it would be nice to have a player that can make above average plays. But it isn’t like the position is falling off a cliff.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

we'll see

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess

what I am struggling with is if you make the plays you are supposed to make, then what is the problem?

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't you rather save the most runs on defense possible?

Getting to extra plays means fewer seeing-eye singles. Fewer base-runners means fewer runs.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

That "possible" should be between "most" and "runs."

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a pretty shitty standard, though

I could stand at SS and field the balls hit directly at me, which would be “making the plays you’re supposed to make”

But basically, you want the best mix of offense and defense on the field at all times. The team decided to emphasize offense this year, which is why we have Theriot and Berkman

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Disingenuous. . .

I’m pretty sure that fielding only balls hit directly at you gets you a pretty crappy UZR. Theriot will, in all likelihood, be an average SS with the glove.

Hence the very real questions about the hyperbole about him being awful defensively.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 22, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

When compared to a +20 fielder,

average is awful. When your pitching staff puts up 60% ground balls, and your mi is average and well below average respectively, I find it concerning. I don’t think it’s hyperbole at all.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

On the hyperbole thing

Let’s see how the Mariners do. Everyone got all hot and bothered about their defense last offseason, and it got them nothing.

by sdrone on Feb 22, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

How the Mariners do has no bearing on this.

We had a couple of spots that were black holes offensively, they had 8.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Adding Brendan Ryan. . .

likely won’t help the offensive black hole count.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 22, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

they'll be fine.

They got rid of that incompetent intern from last year.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but they might have him back again this year

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Mariners to lose 100 games

you heard it here first

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope that's not gonna happen again

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Wanna bet?

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The winner gets Berlin

and the loser will end up in ze cooler.

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

nor did I say it would.

My whole point, and we can rehash the last 3 months again, is that Brendan with no offense is more important to this team than average bat / average field Theriot. I guess we’ll have to watch the season and see who is right.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

this

The only real plus that Theriot brings is if he is replacing Skip.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

But in all probability, it's a lateral move

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe

It’s not like any of the three put up more than the .9 WAR that Ryan did last year. All are capable of having a .9 WAR season, and are all are capable of sucking worse than they sucked last year.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe you

can help me with that. That +20 means he converts 20 more outs over a season than a 0 guy?

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

If

that is the case, then i’m not sold that we will be that much worse defensively.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

+20 means he saves 20 more runs over a season

which is 2 WAR

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That's huge with just a glove.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i wonder

if boog’s glove hadn’t entirely negated his bat, if they would’ve gotten over his “personality issues”

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

To quote Elizabeth Taylor:

There is no better deodorant than success.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yes of course

Because when players are good, they ignore “personality issues” but when they suck, why keep around someone who sucks and has “personality issues.” Had Boog not sucked, he would still be a Cardinal.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

But it's not true

last season his UZR was 11.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

different systems.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh

well the whole time we were refering to UZR…didn’t know we switched.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, the systems may be different,

but they both tell the same story.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

what

system are you refering to? then maybe i have a chance to discuss this topic more informed.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

plus minus

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok

thanks for the info! Let me get back with you in a sec!

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

+/- is where it's at!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok Rat

I have decided that we may be boned. Thanks for the assist!

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He was +24 runs at ss last season and +19 in 09.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Source

Are you refering to UZR?

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, had a phone call.

I see the boys answered you though.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

I am now a more informed member of the VEB community!

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

When has Boog. . .

been a +20 fielder? Never would be the correct answer, at least according to Fangraphs. He was 19.1 on a UZR/150 extrapolation in 2008, but that was on a 40ish game sample size.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 22, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Bref +20 2009, +27 2010

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

OK. . .

by those numbers, Theriot was a +5 fielder in each of ’08 and ’09. He was -5 in 2010, but that was over a 29 game sample size, which is not a particularly representative sample.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 22, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

so Theriot needs to make up somewhere between

1.5 and 2.0 War with the bat to make up the WAR difference. Over the last two years, he’s been .9 , and -.5 oWAR. I don’t think he’s gonna get there.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, given Boog's

-2.38 with the bat last season, either would have made up the difference. Boog wasn’t 0.0 with the bat, he was a black hole of offensive ineptitude.

That may not continue, but there’s more evidence on the ‘Boog can’t hit’ side of the argument than there is on the ‘Boog can be almost adequate offensively’ side of the argument.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 22, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Even with his horrid offensive production,

Ryan was still a 1.0-win player if I remember correctly. For Theriot to be a 1.0-win player in 2011, he has to have some luck on his side when it comes to offense.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

cool.

i love having two shitty defenders right up the middle with a ground ball-dependent staff that need to hit well in order to be valuable to the team. worked so well with skip schumaker this past year.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 22, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan is also in his last year of being on the right side of 30

and can expect his defense to start slipping as well.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

When he slips it will be to +10 or 15,

not -5 or 10.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

And so his defense will not make up for his also slipping bat.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Seeing that

Fangraphs has boog at a 1.6 WAR player and Theriot at a 1.2. I’m not getting all worried about it until it plays out.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

Seriously, they are both below replacement-level players who have an upside of being slightly above replacement-level. Theriot is a couple of years older, but has a track record of success that Boog doesn’t have. It’s likely a wash.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 22, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

we got those last year

with aaron miles playing short. Though really, they were “I would have made that play” Moments.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

This may be my favorite comment ever

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 22, 2011 5:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

But

there won’t be the “here’s the easy out” when he came up to bat either…

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

eh....

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Neither is a below replacement-level player.

But, both are below-average players.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

i love how you pop up every time a boog discussion starts

are you around all the time or do I just notice your posts more frequently in this recurring discussion? Honest question, not trying to be a jerk at all.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

jerk

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

BR has Ryan at .9

and Theriot at -.8.

One system has them at a .4 WAR gap, the other,nearly 2.

Pick your poison.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i think today we decided FAN graphs was better

However, such disparity in the numbers should indicate that you can’t just trust one season worth of WAR. That being said, Ryan is the better player, younger, and slightly cheaper. (even with his pay raise this year, correct?)

But it’s not that far of a stretch for Theriot to have a better year than Ryan.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

you know what's even better?

watching the games and let the season play out. then bitch about it.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 22, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm all for watching some games

and bitching about the outcome whenever it doesn’t go my way.

Bring it on! BASEBALL!!!

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

AMERICA!

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The whole point of my original

argument, while looking at UZR, was that Theriot will not be a defensive liability in that his UZR will be 0. I understand Ryan is better with the glove, but i don’t think having ryan or theriot in the lineup is going to make go from a 87 win team to a 95.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Tell that to the pitchers giving up a copuple more hits every week.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that's where I'm not sure how to look at the analysis

we have an entire system built around Dave Duncan, and he preaches groundballs. other systems may be spending on a mix of pitchers and pitches, and so wouldn’t rely on middle infield as much. all that is going to be averaged out.

sometimes I wonder why Dunc doesn’t just walk up to ’em and say “what in sam hell are you doing?”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

As long

as they aren’t runs…

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

that's problematic

we have a pitching staff that at all costs must stay healthy. giving up bases over of the long-term could cost us untold runs.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

what are you looking at?

BR on BR

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

fangraphs is better

but whatever

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

agree to disagree.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

fangraphs is incomplete

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

If you want to determine the true talent of a player, use Fangraphs numbers

If you just want the stats, use BR

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

i didn't know fangraphs employed magic

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You should apply

i here their last witch suffered a tragic accident with a water cooler.

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

What?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on Feb 28, 2011 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

how so?

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

simple example from a couple weeks ago

these are the cardinals 2010 ss’s listed
i count 3 more

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

ok that's a good reason to not use it as a source for our roster

but what about why it’s not a better talent evaulator than B-R?

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i didn't say that

but why would it be?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

well, in my opinion of course,

fangraphs uses UZR for defense (I’ll say offensively they are the same) which is better than TZ (Sean Smith has said so himself)

it also uses FIP for pitcher WAR not runs allowed and if we are looking for the true talent, there is no better way than taking defense out of the equation – B-R tells you how he did, result-wise, fangraphs tells you how good he pitched

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i personally think you should combine both sources

but a prerequisite is each one of them has to have the complete data before calculating their stats
not so sure about fangraphs anymore

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Why's that?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

because incomplete data

keep up

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

What incomplete data?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

there is no incomplete data

there is insufficient roster data but that doesn’t mean its actual data is incomplete – all the data is legit

it’s kind of weird how you are dismissing the whole site because it left out a few players who played SS

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

well i can't go through ther entire site to see what else they're missing, can i?

but if they’re missing that, it’s reasonable to suspect they’re missing more

and what’s it you you if i like fangraphs or br or whatever anyway? it doesn’t matter

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn't

Just make to distinguish what WAR you’re using

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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

i always use BR

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

i wouldn't because it sucks when it comes to pitcher WAR

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by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

How so?

Seriously, i use BR alot, it would be useful to know the limitations.

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

what mysterui and cardsfan said.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Their pitcher WAR is based on runs allowed, I think

Fangraphs WAR is based on FIP

FIP has a much higher correlation year-to-year

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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

plus FIP is better at showing who is actually the better pitcher

not who pitched better

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh right

well one can discern that simply by looking at peripherals, but i can see the useful ness

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by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

where can i find tRA based WAR?

I’d find that more useful.

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@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hm

That sounds familiar… baseball musings maybe?

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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I assume StatCorner has it, but I'm not sure.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I know it has tRA

not sure if their WAR is based on it though.

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@CodeeG
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by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, that sounds right

I think it is based on tRA, Cody

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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

ok thanks

now another question

know where i can find a SIERA based WAR?

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@CodeeG
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by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Nowhere, because BP uses WARP, which I know nothing about

But I assume it’s similar in methodology

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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

dang

thanks though

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@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

though looking at WARP now i'm surprised to see Wainwright leading all of baseball (pitchers and hitters)

with a 9.4
albert is #3

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@CodeeG
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by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

three different types of WARP?

I don’t know if it’s worth learning though.

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@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I do love this, though

by BJ Rains.

Carpenter greeted Holliday with a big-breaking curve ball on his first pitch in the batters box. Holliday replied, “that was a cruel first pitch.” Carpenter eventually got Holliday swinging on a ball in the dirt, before Yadier Molina drew more laughter when he hustled to his feet and tagged Holliday as he was walking out of the box.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

it's that blazing speed.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

The DEUCE, via Goold

at the 2:45 mark!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

there's not ten replies with the youtube time link?

fail, collective

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

shame it cuts out before you can see lego's reaction to yadi

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone is a comedian, as well.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

PRAISE BE TO BERKMAN

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Holliday is actually in the lead with one-liners.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, the recorded ones, anyway.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

with his mumbling, estimates may be low

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

How long before it goes from being funny to being a distraction?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

graph batting average.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

In this case, it may end up being

graph defensive +/-

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

the cooler scooter lives in K-Mac's basement.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

1. abraham nunez

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_3_1.jsp?r=http://web.servicebureau.net/conf/meta%3Fi%3D1112565675%26c%3D1234%26m%3Dras&r_id=392923&w=http://web.servicebureau.net/conf/meta%3Fi%3D1112565675%26c%3D1234%26m%3Dwas&w_id=392925&pid=mlb_ga&cid=stl&gid=2005/08/19/sfnmlb-slnmlb-1&fid=h12&v=2

2. thanks for reminding me that RFL is gone. i know that we got westbrook because of that deal and everything, but god it’s painful to know he’ll actually make less money with another team this year than berkman.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 22, 2011 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

probably knows how to hyperlink, too.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i was going to come back with projections and all that.

but james and marcel seem to be high on berkman, for what it’s worth. i guess that’s a good thing. i’ll miss studwick’s D, however.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 22, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally OT: my band (The Thrillbillys) has a new CD out

you can check it out here if you’re interested: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/thrillbillys2

I wrote “A buck and change” and am featured on “Our Favorite Martian”

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by floodOfLove on Feb 22, 2011 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

Not really my thing

but sounds good, i prefer Our Favorite Martian personally.

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by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

I figured stylistically, it would probably not go over so well here (i.e. this is “old guy music”).

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Feb 22, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

it's actually kind of cool how you guys cover

several different ‘oldie’ styles. i liked most of that stuff. if you guys ever need a harmonica player, i’m in.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 22, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

yeah, my working title for the CD was “13 songs, 13 styles”. It makes it hard to classify us as a band (are we a swing band, are we a country band, are we a garage band…), but it keeps me from getting bored.

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by floodOfLove on Feb 22, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that's pretty cool

Like I for example don’t like country but I like rock and the preview sounded pretty good on most of the songs even if they aren’t all my thing.

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 22, 2011 9:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

thanks

there’s definitely some rockin’ stuff on there (Homework, She’s Tough, etc.)

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Feb 23, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

goddamnit i need to get out of here

i am running on two hours of sleep and am in spanish class and am dying right now – I will collapse at any moment and my mostly Spanish-speaking teacher has exactly 0% of my attention right now

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by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

just yell out

“Callate maldita punta”

Your day will get much more exciting

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by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

this

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
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by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

tell my teacher to shut up

lord knows i want her to

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by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

the other 2 are words I'm ashamed to know

“f’n female dog”

live with some Domincans for a few months, you’ll learn all sorts of spanish.

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by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

necesita tratar más en la clase de español

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by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

CHOCK-O-LOT!

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This is great advice for almost any situation.

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by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

all guy school

no incentive to impress anyone

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by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

All female teachers?

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

more like 80% guy teachers

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by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

are you studying to be a priest or what?

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by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

it's a Jesuit school

so they do stress being a priest more than most schools

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by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

So glad I went to a school with girls.

Going to a hairy-leg convention everyday just doesn’t sound like fun.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

it's better than it sounds

only public schools suck and that’s my only route to a girl-guy school

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by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

public schools suck?

when did you become so entitled?

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by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

when his family got season tickets?

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by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I went to a public school

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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

was it accredited?

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea. But I feel like I got a great education there. A lot of the kids in our school go to MIT, Stanford, etc

Which is pretty impressive, given that we’re in rural Missouri

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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

It was probably accredited then.

Saint Louis school district is not. It’s pathetic.

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Googling "Rolla high school" and accredited, I get nothing

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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you'd know if it wasn't.

the state has to take over and it’s a giant mess.

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Rolla should be. And it's much better than some of the VERY rural schools.

My wife was valedictorian of her rural school in a much smaller MO town than Rolla. Got to college and was totally lost.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

SSS

I was in a graduating class of 69, didn’t finish in the top 10 of that class and look at me now.

No offense to your wife, but I know a lot of “smart” people who were completely lost in college. Heck, I know people from grad school who were completely lost. My sister in law was a 4.0 student in high school and college, works as a banker, and can’t even balance her own checkbook.

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by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, it's complicated.

I think her class was around 20. My only point is that her school totally failed to prepare anyone for college. She figured it out after a semester or two. Now in med school.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i think you're forgetting

that the quality of the school is not the only driving factor. the quality of the students is too
(i’m not saying your wife is a bad student or anything else like that)

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by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course the student population is a big part of it.

I’m well aware :)

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

checkbook?

who even uses those anymore?

by _pistol_ on Feb 22, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

POPE COUNTY: DEBIT CARDS NOT WELCOME

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh. They still allow bartering.

Case of soda = 2 chickens.

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by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That'd be awesome, actually.

I want to join a co-op so I can start trading my peppers for other veggies and fruit in the summer.

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You grow chiles?

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by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

yup.

Habaneros, cerranos, jalapenos mostly.

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

you should

purchase some seeds from these folks:
chili pepper institute

i havent had any success with the bhut jolokia, but the numex sweet and the red habeneros grew like crazy.

by _pistol_ on Feb 22, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

provocative.

Is the bhut jolokia similar to the ghost chile?

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

This is trending towards

God Tier/Good Tier/Shit Tier for peppers.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay okay

God Tier:
Any Peruvian chile. I’m talking rocoto, aji amarillo, aji panca, aji mirasol, all of ’em

Good tier:
Most chili peppers go here, but I especially like guajillo and serrano

Shit tier:
I mean, how could a chili be shitty? I guess I’ll put peperoncini here since I don’t really care about them and they’re mostly just pickled and tossed carelessly next to sandwiches.

Now think about your Dad.

by purple_haze on Feb 22, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

you're eating the wrong peperoncinis!

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Pepperocini are awesome.

There is no shit tier.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe bell peppers?

But they can be deliciously stuffed with meats and cheeses…

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Or fire-roasted

and put in pasta or pureed with garlic and parsley…

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

nary a bad pepper to be found.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

That chili pepper institute has some good looking seeds.

But I don’t need 15 or 30 of each one.
Anyone (multiple people) in the STL area want to share an order?

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I would

but b/c of my house facing south I really can’t germent seeds.

Baer’s on Hampton has a great selection of peppers in the early spring for planting.

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

hrmm... I might try a couple.

If I do, I’ll end up germinating a ton more than I want. Let me know if there are any that really pique your interest, and I’ll give ’em a shot if they overlap mine.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

germinate?

I thought you were looking for ferment at first (‘F’ key’s proximity to ‘G’ key) but contextually, I’m reading this as germinate?

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Feb 22, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Ship to:

RiverRat

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

My access to the jungle primeval was revoked.

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice.

I need to set up a pepper garden, but I’d be the only one eating them.

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by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrong answer

The St. Louis Public School District has the only top 100 (in the nation) high school in the state of Missouri (Metro High School). Many of the magnet schools are excellent academically, for instance, as are some of the early childhood centers.

The SLPS gets a lot of undeserved grief for having a high degree of difficulty (i.e. educating a high proportion of single-parent (or sadly, no parent) kids, a high proportion of ESOL kids, and a high proportion of kids from the lower socio-economic strata). It’s just not that easy.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 22, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

And this is one example of why the sound-bite ideas

about “fixing” education can be silppery.
/Trying very hard not to mention politics

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that it's diffucult.

but a 50% graduation rate boggles my mind.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

TEXAS!

(Wait….)

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by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Little known fact. . .

the way that the SLPS (and KCMO too, if memory serves) is required to measure graduation rates is different than the way all other school districts in the state are required to measure it. I don’t remember the particulars, but if memory serves, non-SLPS (and maybe KCMO) districts don’t have to count dropouts who dropout after age 16 or something.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 22, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

thats weird.

I’d think everyone would just count all students that dropped out of school before graduating.

(the fact that anyone doesn’t graduate from high school blows my mind. It’s high school! You just show up every day!)

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

some kids don't show up every day

particularly if there are other kids ready to gang up on them, every day.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

high school sucks.

luckily, most of us find a way to deal with it and graduate.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 22, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I HATED going to school

but I still went every day. You’re a kid, that’s what you have to do. Also, where would I go? How would I get there? I’m a child.
Then my parents would have whipped my ass.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

there mistake was not knifing someone the first day.

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Their!

DAMN IT!

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

You were an athlete, weren't you?

/kidding

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by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

nope, pitcher.

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

And the big difference. . .

is that you had parents. Who cared. That is the key, and a lot of kids don’t have that.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 22, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The entire state of South Carolina graduates only 54% of its students.

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by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you talking about

public school or Public School
Hugh Lawrie or gritty realism?

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by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

didn't know that would cause such a ruckus

because it has always just been accepted by my non-public school friends as well as my private school friends

anyway it always depends on the type of school that you go to and I didn’t mean to completely generalize public schools

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by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

What you trying to say 'bout comprehensives?

I went to a comp. and i didn’t get no bad edu-ma-cation.

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by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, be careful with that. It comes across as really snobby.

I suspect I know where you go to school, and I know a lot about the public schools in that area. Most of which are good.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

i actually would have to go to a different public school

Mehlville or Affton (I have not heard good things about either)- I assume the public schools in Ladue are good since everything in Ladue is good

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by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know where you are.

I don’t know much at all about Mehlville or Affton. Ladue is good. So is Parkway.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

there's a handful of good public schools in STL

ladue, clayton, webster groves, kirkwood, parkway, and even rockwood are all acceptable school districts.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 22, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

there are, dummy.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

(I just enjoy typos when discussing education. The p-d comments are a gold mine.)

(and I’m a dick.)

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

making typos when discussing education sucks.

i’m sort of embarrassed i just made that mistake. and oh i love the p-d site as a whole. my favorite might be the prep sports forum. they always manage to talk about education and the private/public debate (and the guy who runs it is from webster, so i can do no wrong…)

i really, really, really enjoy telling private school kids that i got just as good of an education i did for free. it pisses them off so, so, so much.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 22, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It seems to be paying off for you.
i got just as good of an education i did for free.

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by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh....it was too easy to pass up.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't feel bad, Fang.

RiverRat did it to me last night.
I TAUGHT English.
Actually, FEEL BAD. MAKE NO ERRORS. BE PERFECT.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not for free

It’s just not paid for by you.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

So, there are a handful of good public schools in St. Louis County.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

but what do you do for cheerleaders?

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by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

we have none

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by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

who keeps the crowds entertained during halftime of your games?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

t-shirt guns?

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by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

BUT WHO SHOOTS THEM??

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

bobo.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Card carrying member

of the National Trans T-shirt Rifle Association

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

(sigh)

the people who take our Senior Dance class and our SPirit squad

girls do go to our games though in case you are wondering

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

"non-public school friends as well as my private school friends."

Derp.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 22, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn!

Nice catch. I meant to say public school friends as well as…"

Wow…

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

are you the seventh son of a seventh son?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

obv. tight competition for the other 20%

this could put you over the top

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

we are doing group work right now

I’m with a partner watching “Red Eye” – I’m not really alone on this one and now I am awake again

DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO NICK

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i told him if he wanted to watch a movie, might as well watch a good one

he just pointed to the Rachel McAdams and said she was hot- didn’t have a response

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought that was done with
White Sox general manager Ken Williams said it bordered on insanity for a player to command a $30-million salary. In an interview with CSNChicago.com he called such a salary “asinine,” and he went to describe how the White Sox would not pursue a player like Pujols at those prices.

goold

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

I was just gonna post this. chicago stations have been talking about it this morning

Of course, this year he has a top 5 payroll, I think.

That wasn’t the best quote. He kinda endorsed a work stoppage:

“For the game’s health as a whole, when we’re talking about $30 million players, I think it’s asinine,” Williams said, according to Comcast SportsNet. “We have gotten to the point of no return. Something has to happen. And if it means the game being shut down for the sake of bringing sanity to it, to franchises that aren’t going to stop the insanity, I’m all for it.”

by sdrone on Feb 22, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

oh i didn't read this crap in its entirety

i couldn’t care less what he thinks
they will be paying jake peavy 22M next year. that ain’t that far removed from 30

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what's insanity

$8 beers and $6 hot dogs. Fix that and then complain about how much players get. Oh wait, that can’t be fixed because people are willing to pay that, so owners will be willing to sell it at that……and players demand a cut because they are the ones creating the value.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 22, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Funny how that all works.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Simple supply and demand, my friend. Imagine the lines at the ballpark if hot dogs were $2. People would just replace the money with time spent waiting in line

Which nobody likes. Lowering the price of hot dogs and beer would essentially be an inefficient price ceiling

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that'd be awful.

thank god they raise the price every year. so much more convenient not having to wait in line with the commoners while wearing monocle and top hat.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

They probably raise the prices in line with inflation, yeah?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

A keg of beer costs roughly the same as ten years ago

yet beer prices at the stadium have more than doubled. It’s a racket.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

let's not forget how sizes of drinks shrink little by little

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Considering the size of all things in the US

this is not really a bad thing

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

a pint is a pint anywhere in the world

wait…. do you guys not drink pints?!?!

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

They aren't sold as "pints",

so bars aren’t held to the weights and standards divisions as your pubs are.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Man, that is tragic.

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

And anyway,

An American pint is smaller than an Imperial pint (16oz vs. 20 oz). So, we wouldn’t get a real pint even if they served it that way.

It usually strikes traveling Americans as strange that Europeans serve beer in real sized glasses while everything else is served in thimbles.

Play ball!

by IL and StL Fan on Feb 22, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

They come in pints?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Pippen?

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 22, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I was hoping someone would get that.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm shocked someone didn't beat me to it

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 23, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, fuck you qwest field in

Seattle!!!!!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, that was interesting

Sidenote: SafeCo field has easily the best beer selection of any ballpark ever

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The A's got caught pulling that crap too,

and in their case the price difference was a full $3 (compared $1.25 in Seattle). Bastards.

by BTown Birds fan on Feb 22, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Just one more reason

If there’s ever a dispute on who to side with on ownership vs. players, just remember the owners will sell the same fucking amount of beer for more money because they are douchers.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 22, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

someone who goes to the first game at Busch

has to try this out and get back to us

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 22, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on Feb 28, 2011 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Hence the "can't be fixed"

I should have said “so shut the fuck up Kenny Williams” but decided against it.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 22, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

The Royals

have Buck night. It’s pretty fantastic eating 10 hotdogs for 10 bucks!

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I could easily do that

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't think i hate my body that much

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 22, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

of course you could

plan on trying to crash the hot dog eating contest again this year?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

what's the difference between regular hotdogs and ballpark hotdogs

hotdog
bun
done
same thing

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

my dogs can do that without blinking once

also, asians

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Or chewing.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Go to a college baseball game when they have 25 cent hotdog night.

You’ll see kids ordering 8 at the start of the game…and then ordering 8 more in the 3rd…and then maybe another 4 by the 6th.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Gross.

Kansas City hot dogs? Those hot dogs are probably the most disgusting hot dogs I have had a ballpark.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Dave Cameron's take

link

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 23, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I go to one of the best and most technically minded universities in the country

and they expect me to type in 100+ character URLs from a printed piece of paper.
Well they can just fuck off.

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

so they never heard that it's

possible to compress links
or redirect
or hide a link behind an icon
email?
i hope you’re not studying computer science there

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, i'm studying history

This sort of thing is usually very good though; there’s a big centralised system with links to relevant documents, sites etc Plus all essential readings are usually networked. Its just this particular tutor seems to think its 1998.

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I made this because i was bored

http://i.imgur.com/cfssC.png (baseball related)

though i still don’t know who’s in the Springfield rotation.
help?

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:29 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I have no idea what the fuck I'm looking at

What are the green arrows?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

basically i'm saying that he could start in either league

but they’re there because that’s where they finished the year off at.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

*he/they

whatever

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

well does anyone else have an idea about springfield?

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

QC and PB are awesome.

Also, needs ML

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 22, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

ok

http://i.imgur.com/lyr2K.png

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 23, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Seth Blair
Carlos Martinez
Tyrell Jenkins
John Gast
Trevor Rosenthal

OM NOM NOM

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Will someone please explain

fitty men? And why lost shins come into it?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 22, 2011 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

king of the hill reference

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

oic

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 22, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry

Cotton Hill got his shins shot off killing fitty men.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

puma is bringing the funny again

picture by Chris Lee

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Without the caption

It’s hard to tell if they’re laughing with him, or at him.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

'Hey guys i'm going to be an Outfielder again!'

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it's pretty bad when 'little feet' schumaker is laughin at you

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Pitter-patter.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

also by scott rovak

yadi is a tower of cool

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

check out colby bouncing baseballs

that’s too much fun
he’ll run afoul of management

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

NO ONE VIDEO TAPE THAT!

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

quick, someone distract The Cat

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Clearly having the time of his life.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

later, Carp demonstrates his luggaging skills on Yadi.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He's never felt that way before.

It’s the truth.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Bouncing them righty, no less

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Per Strauss...

Punto left spring training today to see a specialist for his nagging groin injury. He’s expected back at camp tomorrow.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

that scrappiest of injuries.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

ahahahhahahahahahahah

Dusty Baker Given Lovely Parting Gifts As Cubs Manager

money quote

“At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day,” Baker said Monday morning. “That was the low point. The grounds crew guy cleaned it up. He said, ‘Oh, I think it’s dog crap.’ I said, ‘No it ain’t. That’s human crap.’”

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 3:59 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

rec'd for actual LOL

at work

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

And I can only imagine Zambrano dropping the deuce

though he usually shakes it off – oh! I’ll be here all week!

by peppermartin on Feb 22, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow...

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, for a Cubs fan

It’s pretty easy to mistake a dugout for the Wrigley field toilets…

by DiscoJer on Feb 22, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Al will cover for that club till the day he dies.
Odd that Dusty would bring it up now.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

CAREFUL, FREDBIRD!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

does he get in a van?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Shelby throws!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

I bet the other first round picks make fun of Kozma.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait...Stock is a catcher again?

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

look again

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Shirt looks like it says 'Stock' to me

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It is him
Miguel Batista (Gerald Laird)

    Raul Valdes (Nick Derba)

    Mitchell Boggs (Laird)

    Chris Carpenter (Yadier Molina) vs. … mentioned above.

    Brian Tallet (Bryan Anderson) vs. … same as Carpenter.

    Kyle Lohse (Molina)

    Adam Reifer (Nick Stavinoha)

    Kevin Thomas (Tony Cruz)

    Shelby Miller (Robert Stock)

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I keep reading Stock as Stack.

Why? It’s an unsolved mystery.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd do a quote from I Spy

but probably very few here have ever seen an episode. Ah, what the hell…“How come you always embarrass me when I’m rescuing you?”

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 22, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That was Culp, not Stack.

But that recall is pure wonderfulness.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

Stack’s the one from The Untouchables and The Name of the Game. From the Untouchables comes this oft-repeated quote, spoken by Random Police Officer: “There’s nothing in that area – except an old abandoned warehouse…”

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 23, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

confession

I still have nightmares over that theme song.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

So what's creepier

The Unsolved Mysteries music, or the X-Files music?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

C)

Tranny posters.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 23, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Even creepier than fake Twitter accounts?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

will you two shut it.

OUR SEASON IS RUINED

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 23, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

And I can't even drink!

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

this one is gonna be a test

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 23, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

If she doesn't get hammered today

then she’s gonna be a really good momma!

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 23, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess I can't fit into my Wagonmaker shirt right now anyway.

BUT FUCK!

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

that's not the test I was thinking about

and hell, it’s spants. It’s not like if she doesn’t get a drink in her that she’ll go around performing random acts of violence on a day like this.

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 23, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

If this day gets much worse, someone will die.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I've got your liver, too.

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 23, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

but when did he stop catching?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

His .213 AVG at Quad Cities last year

led to a discussion of whether he is a candidate to be converted to a reliever.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i hope he sticks there for another year

it’s not a guarantee he’ll pitch great
i mean just last year he was supposed to have 30 HR potential.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
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by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

sand-bagging son of a bitch...

Yeah, give him another year there. If he fails miserably, then move him back. Still young.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, memes.

next time i’ll use a picture.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

Stock is now DIAMONDS

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

no worries

i really ought to have a go-to picture.
like when we had a Most Interesting Man in the World gif in heavy rotation.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

OT there is just so much news going on

Libya, Bahrain, New Zealand, pirates, Wisconsin, Bieber’s haircut…

but for some reason I stopped at this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8337522/Man-shot-dead-for-eating-popcorn-too-loudly-during-Black-Swan.html

Oh, and uh… don’t tell MooCow about Alyssa Milano.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome to the team, Tyler Greene!

Punto is out two-three months w/ a hernia per goold.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

4 WAR!!!!

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Did they even do a physical?

FFS they just signed the guy 2 weeks ago.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

more like a month ago.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, a month.

How did he get it? Does anyone know?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Check that...
Punto told the team he had soreness in his right groin after his first day of workouts last weekend.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 22, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

OR 13 PITCHERS!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

we really ought to open that bar.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

it's going to be solano or kozma (miles)

i can feel it.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

well, that was fun.

dgoold:

  1. Punto to have surgery. Sports hernia. Out for 8 to 12 weeks. #stlcards 6 minutes ago via web
  2. Nick Punto diagnosed with sports hernia/hockey hernia (hence nagging pain). Mozeliak expects him to “play sometime in May”. #stlcards 4 minutes ago via web

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

does this forfeit my bet with azru?

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

YOU LOSE

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll run a poll.

I feel like I need to tantalize you guys with democracy every now and again to keep you pacified.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Feb 22, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

no need to run a poll

you’re our robot overlord, you win by default

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see any strange women in ponds

or any aquatic ceremony

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

if i go

around saying I’m an emperor just because some moistened tart threw a scimitar at me…theyd put me away!

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 22, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Beside i thought we were an anarcho-syndicalist commune

we take it in turns to be sort of an executive for the week

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought we were an autonomous collective

Besides, supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 22, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Now we see the violence inherited inthe system

Now we see the violence inherited in the system

Help, help, I’m being repressed!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 22, 2011 10:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That would be inherent

not inherited.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 23, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was a moistened bint

and a watery tart?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 22, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

you are correct.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sitting here laughing my ass off right now.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Where's your umbrella and ear-flapped hat?

I assume you are posting from a 1970s vintage van.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

in Venezuela.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

he's just going to mess it up like the last one!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

punto is at .5 WAR by game 81

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i believe it was mysterui

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

step up!

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 22, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

RIP NICK PUNTO

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

braintwin

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

apocalypse clause

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

so thins is who is going to write my homework..

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

we seem to

be jinked with out utility INF acquisitions – DeRosa, then Lopez and Feliz regressing, now Punto. I am not sure that we will just let Descalso fill his spot. Possibly Mo will go out to find a veteran, if there is one out there.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Feb 22, 2011 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

TYLER GREENE

4 WAR

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

also more craig!!!

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice boat.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

would you like to board it?

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

that is a good one, but you forgot who is also gritty and a good clubhouse presence!

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Feb 22, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

BLEH

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Leach comes in with his pics

http://yourenotagolfer.mlblogs.com/archives/2011/02/tuesday_camp_photo_gallery.html

…that’s not a flesh-eating blob on Albert’s arm. that’s someone else’s elbow.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

But, does Miller frequently order Dominos pizza?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 22, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Out 8-12 weeks seems like a long time for a sports hernia... I was able to start jogging at 4 weeks, and resume all activities at 8

I’ve heard of other professional actors coming back faster than that because of better access to treatments or whatever

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 6:10 PM EST reply actions  

you were also 12

and it’s not like checkers is really a sport
and what do actor have to do with that?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

What kind of actors get sports hernias?

Wait, don’t answer that.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Hm, that was a weird typo

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Ankiel and lil Duncan recently had to come back from spors hernia

did not work so well.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Clearly. . .

none of the commenters today are in BSOHL.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 22, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I just took care of that one.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I can imagine that

I would have too, had I been eating a sandwich at the time.

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 23, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

...????

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

ZELDA FANS CLICK THIS LINK

HERE. DO IT. NOW.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

Welp time to reboot into Boot Camp and install Project 64

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

isn't it about time for a new Zelda for the Wii?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, late this year I think? Called "Skyward Sword," I think.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

My goodness, I wrote that inelegantly.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

At first I thought that said Skynyrd Sword

That would be an interesting Zelda game

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 22, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I was trying to think of a good freebird ref.

Nicely done.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This link was posted by a member of my gaming community.

It’s pretty friggin sweet.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Feb 22, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I nominate this for the nerdiest comment of the year

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

There's about 100 comments

in yesterdays thread that would like a word with you.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

what ended up going on in that one?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

8 bit music, methinks.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

wha?

“hey guys, so (pushes up glasses) what is better? UZR or +/-”
“i dunno (adjusts elastic on sweatpants). lemme get out my sliderule and find out”
“yeah, that’s an awesome idea. let’s do that like (some stupid-ass meme)”

Can’t we just agree that every comment on here is totally nerdriffic?

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

we do occaisionally discuss serious life matters

and there are seldom any penis jokes

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 22, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I was gonna say

“every comment on here is totally nerdriffic except those about Spants’ kid and other life issues,” but then I remembered all the Jurassic Park jokes and had to erase that last bit.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Since when?

All I ever come here for is the stats. The Stats, man……the Stats.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

break out the abacus!

it’s a wang measuring contest!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I've had enough of this nerd-dom

I’m a’gonna go read my EA Robinson book. So much cooler.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 22, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Now you're just getting kinky.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 22, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

They're in their respective owners' hands

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

If you were 12 in 199x

instead of 200x, you would have enjoyed that game.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually I fit that category but we grew with a Sega

Fuck yeah Sonic the Hedgehog!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 22, 2011 11:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What game are you talking about?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, it should be 198X,

but I didn’t want to feel too old.

Now get the fuck off of my lawn.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 23, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

What about a robot-man in 200X

Who has to battle other, evil robots to save the world?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

so non-Zelda fans don't click it?

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Grrr...

So Strauss thinks Edmonds wasn’t great enough to be a HoF…based on what, exactly?

He’s basically discrediting any analysis of Jimmy’s performance. Am I reading that right?

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

he's trolling.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

it's what he does

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

it's really quite pathetic.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

the pathetic thing is, he gets paid for it

and the sad thing is, this is his life.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 22, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

only until i get citizenship

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Twitter: The last bastion of trolling

because you can hide it longer due to lack of writing space.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe Strauss article plan:

1. Find popular subject about Cardinals.
2. Side with the unpopular opinion.
3. ????
4. Profit.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

well

he seems to still be employed.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 22, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I could save the p-d about $250K in salary in one hour and nobody would really notice.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

plus, there'd be drawerings.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking more about firing five people and replacing them with interns and/or bots

but I guess I could sneak in there, too.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He wrote an article?

I was just catching up on Twitter.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 22, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

anybody a ps3 expert?

i’m trying to download the mlb 11 demo and keep getting the same error… 80710723. any tips? thanks!

EH #2
FIRE JOHN MOZELIAK.

by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 22, 2011 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

This shit in Libya is fucking fascinating.

I think if Americans protested like this, they’d just extend “Minute to Win It” for an extra hour and the masses would be soothed.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

oh look, glee!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian Williams' intro to the story was telling

“…and the question on many Americans’ minds: ‘How will this affect gas prices?’”

Now think about your Dad.

by purple_haze on Feb 22, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved the post Egypt stories about twitter and facebook and etc

like “Hey look what our awesome websites did! Yay American websites!”

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 22, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

GODDAMNIT, THEY'RE ALL WE'VE GOT LEFT

don’t take them away from America, Fritz.

Now think about your Dad.

by purple_haze on Feb 22, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

It's interesting

but it makes me worry about oil prices. If this spreads to Saudi Arabia or more oil rich states . . . makes me nervous.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Feb 22, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Buy futures now

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 22, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

without veering too far into politics

i’d welcome paying a lot more for gas for awhile if it led to the end of the House of Saud

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 23, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Americans can't.

geographically, the population masses are too far apart. heck, we can’t even start a rally. the best we can do is something like hide in hotels across state lines.

on the other hand, there are quite a few successful internet campaigns under our belts.

now we can save our bottles for booze.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

Why in the hell would we want to protest like this? We don’t because we don’t have to.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

damnit

You hadn’t replied when I started typing my response…

I went to go get a cup of coffee in the middle.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 23, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Heh

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

why would american's protest like that anyway?

I mean, yeah some people seem to get mad at in the mid west about the whole forcing teachers to pay a higher percentage of their pension. Or on the Federal level, cutting money going to plan parenthood. But neither of these are something that should result in overthrowing the government.

And we may be spread-out, but we wouldn’t be out gunned.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 23, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Our political problems are honey in comparison to those parts of the world.

If we started protesting like that, it is either because A) the country went to hell real quick, which would be kind of a disaster, or B) we all of a sudden all went totally crazy and lost total perspective about how good we have it in comparison to large, large sections of the world. B) would be a little preferable to A), but I’m not interested in B) happening any more than it does. Just look at some of the crazy stuff they do in Europe.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

There was a disputed presidential election in 2000.

If that had happened in the middle east or africa, people would have been in the streets in every major city, the former president would have been trying to keep power, etc.

Hell, people would have been on the streets in Europe, even. Americans just can’t really stomach protesting for a few reasons.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe it's because they trusted their institutions to resolve the matter? Which they did.

We’ve have more than one election that ended up that way. A lot of people were bitter about it, and probably still are, but in this country you can’t just seize power or change everything all at once or get away with too much corruption because the system is put together to prevent that kind of chaos. Separate powers, checks and balances, etc. We can change our constitution bit by bit so we’re not always writing new ones.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

"but in this country you can’t just seize power "

DON’T TELL ME WHAT I CAN’T DO! THIS IS AMERICA DAMN IT!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 23, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

The standard of living is comparable or higher to the US in some european countries,

and they still protest much more regularly. The funny thing is, the last justification for the calm after the election is that “Americans trusted their institutions.” That’s a huge lol since Americans seem to have a problem with authority in general and are pretty mistrustful of anything that seems institutional (which is why corporations are constantly trying to give the impressions that they are just a bunch of “aw shucks” family farmers, etc.)

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Standard of living

No, not<a href=“http:// ”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index" target="new"> really.

Most of the proests have been in France and Greece, neither have a higher standard of living.

IF the unemployment rate were to hit 25% like it is over there, then I would expect protest. But it hasn’t, and our Government has been pretty good about extending unemployment benefits anyway.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 23, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

According to the HPI, much of europe has a higher standard of living than the US.

But Greece is definitely not included in that- even before the crisis it had a mediocre economy. I’m talking about other top tier countries in standard of living. The propensity to vote and protest varies quite a bit, from higher in both (France and Germany) to high turnout but not much protest (Switzerland, Norway), to crap turnout and very few protests (US, Japan).

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Political Apathy is an American trait

fix’d

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I just don't care about that.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

What were we talking about again?

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

huh? gonna go play some video games now.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Political Apathy is a trait of all modern, stable, democracies

Sorry America, your not special.

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 23, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

you're

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 23, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Okay, but the percentage of Americans that vote in a given election is ridiculously small.

It’s at least 10% lower than even the most politically apathetic european countries.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

but we sure do like to bitch about how shit is broken

:-)

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 23, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

THIS. THIS. THIS.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 23, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

And people who vote tend to be the ones who care

I am not convinced that higher turnout will necessarily lead to better outcomes.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, if the underlying reasons for voting were good (civic engagement, wanting to make a difference, patriotism)

then the outcome would be good too, right?

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I think this if/then is probably generally correct

And that’s a pretty good description of a normal election, I think. But when you start having higher turnout, isn’t there more possibility of a broadening of underlying reasons for voting?
Anyway, I like to think about this sort of thing. It’s all hypothetical, since, in order to discover an optimum turnout, you’d have to agree on an optimum result that is your basis for comparison.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I have all sorts of politically charged comments to make here.

BUT I WON’T YOU BASTARDS.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I almost never wade into the political stuff on VEB anymore

Sometimes it’s very hard for me to not do it, but I try to only say anything if it’s an old thread or something, or things are clearly not gonna turn ugly.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

There was a big thread the other night that got deleted.

I’m not sure you were around for that or for the comments that we wished that this type of talk would remain taboo, along with religion.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I can totally sympathize with that frame of mind

I think I saw this huge thread and z’ed through it, mostly. In all honestly I think I’d be OK if there were more strict enforcement of it. It would help prevent me from the (admittedly few) times I (sometimes unwisely) make political comments on VEB, and it’d just make it a more easy-going and basebally place, I think. Politics talk can just instantly get under peoples’ skin and makes us feel like we have to say something, damn it, because, but it’s probably better the more it is avoided at VEB.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Whether or not it is better isn't really debatable because it's a rule.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 24, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to see some proof of that.

The Bush years and the Obama years has displayed lots and lots of people caring about politics, in my opinion.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

people talk a good game.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 23, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

The 2008 election had the highest turnout in decades,

and it was still well below the european average.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh.

I don’t think “lower turnout in national elections than European average” = “apathetic nation”.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not about the percentage of the pension, nor is it about teachers.

It’s about the right to collectively bargain and therefore have a union. I think this is an important distinction.

I think this goes along with what you’re saying, though. There wouldn’t be these rather long and rather large protests over the money. It takes something fairly important to even get localized protests.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

BTW, I'm definitely not taking any sides here. I view this as a history and American Sociology discussion

rather than political :D

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought about making this point as well,

but I didn’t want to stray too far into politics.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

hence my silly, and probably wrong, disclaimer ;)

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean, I'm not big fan of american unions (or teacher's unions, specifically)

and I think they should all be reworked into a more democratic structure and more integrated into workplaces. In the same way, I’m not a huge fan of corporate opacity or government bureaucracy but you can get a better idea why these institutions exist and why they do what they do if you see the facts of the argument. And now I really am going to stfu about this.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you on FB?

I’m interested in hearing more about your ideas, but this ain’t the place.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

He also has a newsletter.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 23, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Twitter, though I have only been posting about once a day I reply to messages and post links to blogs when I get around to writing them.

http://twitter.com/#!/hithazel

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm tweetless! Ah well.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

join.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 23, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

what's the purpose of it?

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

sharing information.

and dick jokes.

If you liked hazel’s thoughts above, you’d enjoy following bgh.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 23, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll give it a shot.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

but not today.

Twitter: Get yourself depressed even faster because injury news gets tweeted by everyone.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 23, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Stupid Skull Kid

Why you gotta be stealin’ them masks

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

Jd...have you stumbled upon this

on youtube?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

It's really good.

I’m on 4 right now, the video is a bit grainy, but the audio is good.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

the Las Vegas set on there is the exact opposite.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

tl;dr

just got done with 8 hours of classes and writing about 400 lines of code

can i get a summary of the last 750 comments?

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 22, 2011 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

hang on.

can’t promise links, though.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

to Simon and Garfunkel.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

rehashed the boog trade.

Again

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

did someone make assholish comments in my place?

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 22, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

yes?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Public schools suck

Except for the ones that don’t

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 22, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

consensus is that the King of the Hill joke went over well.

the King of the Hill joke was explained.
discussion on pitchers and which ones decline
Spring Training commercials were filmed
Carp threw live BP and swore a lot; Waino accused of turning him into swearing monster Carp
Russ Springer retired
Punto out till May, hockey hernia. of the groin. or something. not known May of which year.
extremely long recap of radio show where bullpen has hilarity, oatmeal, and jokes at Skip’s expense. some art dude makes a pass at The Cat.
Spants will tweet the sex.
Dusty makes shit up.
Boog will run around and be free.
more stuff about video games.
RiverRat will ask me to be unoriginal, and I will decline.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, and Amaury Marti Cazana vs. Shelby Miller.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

lol
Punto out till May

the curse of the extreme bargain utility infielders

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 22, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

you should check out the dusty baker bit

puts a new spin on “for me to poop on”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i feel kind of sorry for him

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 22, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not a good manager

But he did get that franchise closer to a WS than anyone in the last 100 years has, and that’s how they repay him?

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 22, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

crap, y2s. make this puppy searchable.

it’s a sum up.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I already picked that one, didn't I?

I could have said the Beatles.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

IIRC there was a specific song, too.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

knowing myself,

I would guess sounds of silence.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

do you put your curly brackets on a new line?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Without telling me how the game ends...

should I continue watching the Chelsea/Copenhagen game or should I finish The Dark Knight?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

have you seen Dark Knight before?

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

But I recently realized that I am in love with Christian Bale pretty much only when he is Batman so I made my brother give them to me.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

just watch the game

I thought Dark Knight was great, but it loses a lot of its luster after the first viewing or two for me (although watching the Joker is never old)

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen it multiple times already.

I think you underestimate my love of Batman.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

...

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you seen Empire of the Sun

or Reign of Fire? Or The Prestige?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 23, 2011 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

that's a loaded question.

yes means they won, no means they lost.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

well if she's never seen Dark Knight before, then she should watch that

but if she’s already seen it, I would watch soccer were the game is in doubt (I don’t know the result or who you are rooting for)

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 22, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Well someone lost.

You have no idea who I’m cheering for.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I would think Chelsea, since you listed them first.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

They're also the most known.

I actually don’t care that much. I’m really cheering for lots of shots of Fernando Torres’ face.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

this?
but this throws me off.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 22, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I changed my mind.

I realized I didn’t actually like any people who played for Chelsea so I picked a team that had people I like.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Dang it SBN!

You have no idea who I’m cheering for.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

cubs GM jim hendry
It’s so foolish to look any farther than this year.

i think it shows that this is your philosophy

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 22, 2011 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

so does that mean we can trade carp for castro?

because i think i’d take that trade.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Only if they throw in Soto

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 22, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

carp+ anderson?

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

hell no

Carp knows how to strike us out

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

try a three-way

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 22, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

big plus

trading castro+soto means they’ll add 16M and have to fill those two new holes with FA players.
thus making it harder for them to get Albert.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 22, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Well if they look further than this year they just see endless failure.

It is foolish.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 22, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

any word on minipants yet?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

Twitter had it,

I’ll let regular size tell you tho.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Feb 22, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

twitter gets all of the news first.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 23, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

It's a bobo

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 22, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

wait.. that she's having a tranny?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 22, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Girl!

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

clever

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 23, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

CONGRATULATIIIIIIIONS!!!

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

indeed.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 23, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

what he said.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 23, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Name?

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 23, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

We have one, but we're not sharing until she's born.

And probably never on the internet.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

how about a VEB pseudonym

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 23, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Eventually, yes.

I’m working on it. It’ll come to me.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Got one for you

Microraptor.

Although I’d understand if you thought it was kind of a creepy dinosaur, the whole “four wings” evolutionary dead-end thing is strange to me.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

josh drinking yet?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Josh doesn't drink.

He’s actually asleep. He has to get up early.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

just asking cause i hear my dad got smashed when he heard he was having a girl

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

That sucks. And it's weird someone told you that.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

why? he was ecstatic

as in happy

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

OH

I thought you meant he was like “NOOOOO” and drowned his sorrows.

All I hear from guys is “I hope my daughter is a lesbian!” and “I don’t even want to think about what’s going to happen when she starts dating” and other assorted fear-based nonsense. Let’s let her be a baby first.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

My dad was smashed the night I was born.

They had just won a state stock car championship, and my mom went into labor that night. My grandma had to come and drive her to the hospital.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 23, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

the birth control pills didn't work with me, so I'm wondering at what point they found out

another thing you shouldn’t tell your kids: I wish I never would have left me first wife and married your mother

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 23, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Then he probably did it for the booty.

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by hazel on Feb 23, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's a good call

Didn’t think about that

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 23, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Congrats, again

(does that make sense, to congratulate someone on the sex of their child? was it a competition?)

Anyway, happy for you (that’ better). And I vote for “Clever Girl” as her VEB moniker.

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 23, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Another CG!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 23, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

That's awesome.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

The "matty" jerseys would get confusing too

But the fans would probably be able to tell me apart pretty easily.
Because I’m the short one. Right?
Right guys?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 23, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

It is your only distinguishing feature

Oh god, i've become... myself.
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 23, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

And that might work!

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Huzzah!

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 8:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Congrats!

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Feb 23, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Cool!

Congrats! Hope you have smooth sailing from here on out.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 23, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

What kind of pop tarts?

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

strawberry.

i’m partial to the brown sugar cinnamon but for some reason in my mind those seem more like dessert than food. i realize the same applies to strawberry but it’s a mind thing.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 23, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Both are good.

The brown sugar cinnamon HAVE to be toasted though.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

This is true.

Those things are disgusting untoasted.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 23, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

agree.

but i rock them cold when at school. not a toaster in site. and i take it you’re not going to tell me your name?

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 23, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

were you the one with the lunchables?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

then you have no business

offering opinions about food
or women

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

alright your opinion about women is solid

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by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 23, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

No.

If I meet you in person, you can know my name. But otherwise, I don’t see a reason for it.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

fair enough.

i’m sure it’ll happen at some point during our lifetime.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 23, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

So this is why you're always "sick" for veb day.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 23, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

No.

I was actually sick the last two years. I tried to go last year and Josh wouldn’t let me.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

i take you out for icecream but i'm calling you smallpants the entire time

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

You're going to call me Slothpants when you see me.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

what kind of champions?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 23, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

pop tarts can suck it.

Toaster Strudel is where it’s at.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 23, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

what is this deliciousness?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

an amazing pastry that they sell at corner bakery

conveniently placed on the floor level of where I work… I think I need to make a stop there tomorrow morning

SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 23, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

nom nom nom
The different fillings can include raisins, walnuts, cinnamon, chocolate, marzipan, poppy seed, or fruit preserves which are rolled up inside.

i’m making these this weekend and stuffing all this stuff in them

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

they are one of my favorite snacks, hands down

not too sweet, but enough to satisfy your sweet tooth. they’re like an even better version of these which I grew up on

SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 23, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Or you could make MonkeyBread with a Carmel-peach glaze and have all three in one.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 23, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

why?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I think of rugelach as a typical European pastry

(Yes, I am completely stereotyping. Sorry.)

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 23, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I think of it as Jewish

but I don’t know that it is.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

It is, per CFiC's wikilink above.

Learning occurred today.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 23, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I consider everything my grandma cooked is Jewish

so I don’t know what’s actually what.

I thought Fried chicken was Jewish when I was a kid.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

For the record, I think of all tasty pastries as being commonly available across Europe.

I blame the Travel Channel and Food Network.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 23, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Rugelach are awesome.

My grandma made them from scratch. Absolutely killer pastry. Like “Attack of the Killer Rugelach” killer.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

oh man

I want to buy like 3 dozen of ’em

SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 23, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

She'd totally sell 'em

if she didn’t die 7 years ago :)

Man, that woman could cook! She was so, so, so grouchy, though.
But she loved her Cards baseball. She had a TV only so she could watch them.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

cool

the GOB just took a dump on Cardinal Nation
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 23, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

he has the most awesome tweets

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 23, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

they are funny

also, dude was really small

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turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 23, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

god i hope he has a lot of germix handy

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

ah damn

I just got the flu from his hand! oh noz!

SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 23, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

niiiice! rec

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 23, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

it was his pre-mayoral hand

so at least I don’t have to cut it off

SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 23, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

damnation

FX actually shows Suspiria, and I have to go to bed.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 23, 2011 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

alright ps3 techies.... need your help again

like i said earlier in the thread, i’m trying to download the mlb the show demo. i called customer support and thought i had a certain problem. well, it turns out that since then, i’ve found out that i can seem to download any demo BUT the mlb the show demo. any reason as to why this might be, and a possible fix? thanks!

EH #2
FIRE JOHN MOZELIAK.

by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 23, 2011 12:41 AM EST reply actions  

Did you google?

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

but couldn’t find much with issues like mine

EH #2
FIRE JOHN MOZELIAK.

by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 23, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...

I have never heard of this issue. I wish I could help you. Have you tried unplugging it?

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

i've tried unplugging the ethernet and re-doing it

and all the stuff that customer support gave me to do, but no avail. it’s really strange and bugging the crap out of me.

EH #2
FIRE JOHN MOZELIAK.

by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 23, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, kiddo.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 23, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

enable UPnP and static NAT in your router

and open the following ports for your PS3:

TCP ports:

443, 5223, 3478, 3479, 3480, 9750

UDP ports :

3478-3480, 6672, 9750

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 23, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

may be a slight problem

i have to use my college’s internet so i don’t think i can exactly do that.

EH #2
FIRE JOHN MOZELIAK.

by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 23, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

i dunno

restart the PS3, check for firmware updates. not much else you can do if you have no control over the network

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 23, 2011 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

you can also try different DNS servers

try specifying 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 23, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

i've done everything i can.

looks like i’ll be calling customer service in the morning.

EH #2
FIRE JOHN MOZELIAK.

by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 23, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Well that was a fun season

“Wainwright having elbow examined for ‘significant’ injury”

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 23, 2011 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

Goold

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_141e8434-3f58-11e0-b886-00127992bc8b.html

Cardinals ace Adam Wainwright has flown back to St. Louis this morning to have his right elbow examined this afternoon after he experienced discomfort in the joint.

General manager John Mozeliak said he believes it is a “significant injury” and the early word is “not encouraging.”

Mother fucking AAHHHHHH!!!!

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 23, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

GAGHSHDFHSDFHSDF

was my reaction

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Feb 23, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Someone point me to the closest bridge

Unless, of course, there’s another 20 game winner, perennial Cy Young candidate lying around that we can pick up before the season starts?!

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S. '08, T.E.S.S. '09, T.E.S.S. '10

by dan on Feb 23, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Everybody calm yourselves!!!!!!!!

Isn’t this what we brought in Snell for? We got plenty of help, don’t we? We don’t?! SOMEBODY SAVE ME A SPOT ON THE BRIDGE! Preferably close to the rocks.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 23, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

uh-oh.

"I used to keep a box of Milky Ways in my fridge at home. I'd eat one after each loss, for cold comfort. If we won I'd have a glass of sparkling wine and a single Mike & Ike -- which in retrospect I guess might have helped pack the pounds on, too."

by a fink on Feb 23, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Hold Me

My world is crumbling around me. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Feb 23, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

More strong work by the Cardinals medical staff
An MRI exam in late September showed a strained muscle in his forearm and inflammation near the elbow. At the time, the Cardinals believed Wainwright would be fine with rest…

My guess is Wainwright is facing TJ surgery, and that this was a possibility at the end of last season. Knowing offseason surgery might keep him out most, if not all of 2011, they underestimated the injury and played it conservatively, hoping the elbow would get better on its own in the offseason.

Well, it’s a good thing we have that top notch farm system to fall back on.

Oh…

by olddomination on Feb 23, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

More strong work by the Cardinals medical staff
An MRI exam in late September showed a strained muscle in his forearm and inflammation near the elbow. At the time, the Cardinals believed Wainwright would be fine with rest…

My guess is Wainwright is facing TJ surgery, and that this was a possibility at the end of last season. Knowing offseason surgery might keep him out most, if not all of 2011, they underestimated the injury and played it conservatively, hoping the elbow would get better on its own in the offseason.

Well, it’s a good thing we have that top notch farm system to fall back on.

Oh…

by olddomination on Feb 23, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Before you go bagging on the farm,

We got rid of the reason the farm was in such shitty shape to start with. You can’t rebuild that many years of neglect over-night.

I really can’t argue with the observation of the med staff though. They do seem to miss more than they catch.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 23, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

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