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JUPITER FL - FEBRUARY 16: A vehicle belonging to Albert Pujols is unloaded during spring training at Roger Dean Stadium on February 16 2011 in Jupiter Florida.  (Photo by Marc Serota/Getty Images)

Dan Lozano on Albert Pujols

While both parties were hopeful that an agreement could be reached, a difference of opinion in determining Albert's value simply could not be resolved. Albert's production over the last 10 years is nothing short of historic. He is not only the best player in baseball, and on his way to having a Hall of Fame career, but an iconic figure in sports. The expiration of today's deadline does not eliminate the possibility of Albert returning to the Cardinals in 2012, but simply delays negotiations until the conclusion of the Cardinals' season.

We disagreed about how much Albert Pujols was worth. He's a great player and people like him in St. Louis. The Cardinals will get a chance to bid on him again after the season. 

Dan Lozano is doing his job, but his job, unfortunately, is to make a spectacle of these negotiations. He's doing it well—nobody knew his name a month ago but SB Nation St. Louis got something like 60 Google hits for his name today, the first 60 his way that we've ever gotten. Not Dan Lozano Pujols; not Pujols Lozano; just Dan Lozanonewly single agent with one enormous, name-making client. 

So far he's done pretty well; as with Billy Beane and the Big Three it's easy to wonder how much of this work has already been done for him, but however it happened he managed to provoke press conferences and live ESPN analysis from contract negotiations for a player who's still not a free agent. 

If Lozano was really snickering about the Cardinals' chances with other teams he's a few clients from having Scott Boras's negative reputation as well as his positive one, but as much as I hate his job I have to admit he's doing it pretty well. If Pujols didn't like the job Lozano was doing—that is, if he wasn't prepared for this—he had a perfectly good chance to exit when Lozano did. 

Bill DeWitt on Albert Pujols: 

While we are disappointed that we did not reach an agreement, we remain hopeful that Albert will finish his career in St. Louis. Albert has been playing baseball at the highest level for the Cardinals these past ten years, providing us with countless great memories. We look forward to many more in 2011 and hopefully beyond. We are looking forward to this upcoming season and feel great about the team we have assembled. We respect Albert's decision to focus entirely on preparing for the 2011 season. We will honor his wishes and not discuss this matter until the completion of the season.

We disagreed about how much Albert Pujols was worth. He's a great player and people like him in St. Louis. We won't talk to him again until after the 2011 season, because that's what he wants, but make sure you catch that he's the one who wants that.

Our unnamed sources are taking swings at each other with the lights off—one suggests the Cardinals offered a salary which would place Pujols outside the top five in AAV, which is clearly the Cardinals' fault. Others suggest the kind of deals we'd imagined before somebody, somewhere rounded up from Alex Rodriguez. That one would be nobody's fault, except Alex Rodriguez's. 

Star-divide

This is going to sound like concern trolling, but the numbers involved in baseball ownership sound so fake to me that when it comes to once-in-a-generation decisions, like sign-Albert-Pujols-and-keep-him-around-forever or guys-I-freed-Allen-Craig-like-you-asked, I wonder why a decision has to be made at all. You're worried about the team staying competitive? What's another $10 million a year for 10 years? 

I think the Cardinals are in the roughest position here, for that reason. It's harder to say what's another $10 million a year to Albert Pujols, whose pay won't be fluctuating from year to year, but the Cardinals seem every year to take on a few spare salaries for the likes of Jeff Weaver and Mike Maroth; the payroll seems flexible, so why not stretch it out?

I realize intellectually that it doesn't work like that, but it'll be hard to think that when the Cardinals find themselves in need of a third baseman and the trade deadline and take on half of Mike Young's salary, or just set $5 million on fire to keep David Freese's body temperature from falling after that vampire bites him. So maybe Albert Pujols did the Cardinals a favor by refusing to negotiate during the season. It gives the Cardinals something against which they can dig in—we wanted to talk; we made an offer; he wants free agency. 

Albert Pujols on the St. Louis Cardinals:

I also would like to take this opportunity to reassure the Cardinal Nation, that my effort both on and off the field will never change. I am devoted to giving 100 percent on the field, every single day, just as I have done the last 10 years. We're all working together toward a common goal and that is to win a World Championship for the City of St. Louis. The last thing anyone in this clubhouse needs to worry about, is what's going to happen to me after the season. Let's focus on winning in 2011 and prepare each day to accomplish our goals as a team.

I'm really good at baseball, and you guys have rooted for me for 10 years. Don't think about the negotiating, I'm still playing for the Cardinals in 2011. 

Taking Albert Pujols at his word as someone who didn't want to be a distraction to himself, the fans, the clubhouse, this whole deadline idea was a colossal disaster. The Mark McGwire treatment would have been better—say whatever you're thinking, presumably that you'd like to test free agency, deal with it for three days, and then ruin Brendan Ryan's swing and make VEB cry. 

And if the Cardinals really offered the high end of the unnamed-sourced (unsourced, for short) contracts we saw yesterday and Pujols and Lozano declined, Pujols should not have said any of the things playing over the obligatory Sarah Mclachlan song in this video. (I wonder whether we demand supplication like this, as The Best Fans in Baseball, or if players just feel compelled to give it, but as good as St. Louis is and as good as the Cardinals are there are other places where he'd be comfortable and revered as a demi-god-of-baseball.)

But if somebody has to compromise he's right to wonder why it has to be him. And taking him at his word, he probably doesn't want to be a distraction, he probably would like to stay in St. Louis, and he probably is—this doesn't work when you say it out loud in your best Albert Pujols impression, so I'm not sure he wrote it—"working... toward a common goal and that is to win a World Championship for the City of St. Louis." 

Pujols hasn't bent over backward for the Cardinals, or forward, or sideways, but he hasn't done anything to earn any centaur paintings, either. He'll be Albert Pujols again in 2011 and hopefully the Cardinals are prepared to outbid other teams for the best player in baseball. Hopefully Dan Lozano's job and the Cardinals' and Albert Pujols's all come together a bit better.

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AMEN!

The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be

by ANDYAK47 on Feb 17, 2011 3:59 AM EST reply actions  

Great post.

This situation is sort of a distracting and uncomfortable, but time is on the Cardinal’s side. Very little is lost to wait this season out to see what will happen with Albert’s health and production.

As a side note – when it comes to the next contract offer, it seems like it might be better to have a more comprehesive package in respect to an ownership stake. This may be key in balancing the interests of both Pujols and the front office.

by peppermartin on Feb 17, 2011 6:55 AM EST reply actions  

thing is,

an ownership stake may be the only way the Cards have to raise the offer value to what Albert is seeking without crippling the annual budget for “baseball”.
it assures Albert will finish his career in STL. It assures Albert will be a part of the franchise after his playing career is over.

main thing is…. i don’t see the cards getting a deal done without it, because i don’t think Albert will settle for 7/210…. which is probably all the cards really should offer to him in terms of traditional dollars and years.

of course, if i’m an owner of this team i don’t want to be slicing off pieces of the pie and handing them out.

by Mr.B4567 on Feb 17, 2011 7:19 AM EST reply actions  

ESPN is reporting that the Cardinals offered an equity stake...

I think they are trying to turn this Pujols situation into another LeBron-a-thon.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Equity stake may not be possible

I think there’s a provision in the current contract preventing teams from offering players any equity… Maybe the new contract could change that…

Also, there’s some talk of the next contract giving teams the ability to mark one individual player as a Franchise Player, as in the NFL… I doubt the union would accept that idea readily, and I doubt that would happen before we get to November. But if it did, that would make Albert’s situation yet more interesting…

by SLOKev6 on Feb 17, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I checked on it today

The CBA allows it if the commissioner approves, but only if it follows with a (non-public) MLB rule which says that the equity has to be dissolved if the player (or manager) starts working for another team in baseball.

by astrostl on Feb 17, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

in other news:

after unloading some bad contracts, Toronto signs Bautista to 5/65 and a 6th year option that could raise value to 78mil.
as mlbrumors points out, Jose hit “.238/.329/.400 with 59 homers in over 2,000 career plate appearances coming into 2010”.

am i the only one who thinks this signing is crazy? the guy went apeshit for one year. will he regress back to career norms? was he plagued by injuries previously that i’m not aware of?

by Mr.B4567 on Feb 17, 2011 7:30 AM EST reply actions  

No,you are not

I don’t know what they’re thinking. So he hit a few homeruns, still not a great player but he gets 13mil aav for 5 years? Yikes

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.

by hr on Feb 17, 2011 8:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It's an absolutely insane deal.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

and not their first

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Feb 17, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Toronto is contract noobs

Lolz

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 17, 2011 9:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Heh.

They’ve already given a huge contract to an outfielder with only one truly excellent year. This time at least they year was better, and the contract was smaller.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Last year, his HR/FB rate was around 22%, almost double

his average over the 4 previous years. That, to me, screams aberration. Good luck replicating that, Jose.

by mattyp on Feb 17, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought the whole point of Jose Bautista's crazy year is that he was doing something completely new

(Well, I’ve actually heard that he started doing it at the end of 2009, but still).

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Steroids?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Hitting homeruns?

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 17, 2011 9:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ah, I wasn't familiar with that

that could obviously explain some of the variation, but 22% is still awfully high, there’s gotta be some luck in there. It was good for second best in the majors, trailing only……ugh…VOOTTTTTTTTTTTO!!!!!
/shakes fists at heavens

by mattyp on Feb 17, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

MLB HR/FB Average: 7.2%

Top 10 in HR/FB:

Bautista (21.9%)
Reynolds (19.6%)
Pena (18.1%)
Dunn (17.4%)
Votto (16.3%)
Ortiz (15.8%)
Pujols (15.6%)
Konerko (15.5%)
Cabrera (15.2%)
Tulowitzki (15.1%)

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily expect him to continue to have the highest HR/FB% in the majors

But consider: Fangraphs had him as worth 6.9 WAR last year, and 27.8 million dollars. He’ll be making 13 million per year in this deal. I don’t think it’s as crazy as I originally thought it was.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

it's purely anecdotal,

however…. i went to Toronto last summer for the Cards/Jays series and it just seemed that the baseball explodes off the bat in that stadium. flippin’ laserbeams and towering flyballs.

anybody know what % of his HRs were at home last year?

by Mr.B4567 on Feb 17, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

33 at home, 21 on the road, so 61%.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

well...

that’s completely non statistically significant.

by Mr.B4567 on Feb 17, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The whole team had a huge year of slugging, didn't they?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I wish

Adam Lind managed to drop 70 points off his 2009 ISO. While on my fantasy team.

by mikey_mac on Feb 17, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

Well, except for that, yeah. I drafted him too, so I feel your pain.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, this

There was an article I read somewhere, although I am forgetting where now, that talked about him completely re-tooling his swing around August-Sept of 09. His numbers finishing off 09 are in line with his 2010.

This is an insane contract but I guess they are assuming the fix is real and this is who Jose is going forward (Mark Reynolds-type player).

by paposse on Feb 17, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Here is my problem.

Why not give him a decent one-year contract to avoid arbitration and let him play 2011. If he continues to slug, why not open negotiations for a four- or five-year deal toward the end of the season? I don’t see why this had to be done now.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

You're actually suggesting that a player negotiate during the season?

Don’t you think that would cause a distraction?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

A welcome way to generate press late in the season for the last-place club in the AL East.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

i think this is right

maybe he repeats and they end up paying more to sign him long term….. but as it is now they’ve forked over a buttload of money based on one 30 year-old season. crazy talk.

by Mr.B4567 on Feb 17, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Batista said

he wouldn’t negotiate during the season.

by adiueordie on Feb 17, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i think the thought process may be

That if bautista has another great season one of the heavy spenders either in division or on the west coast will push him to an even higher contract and he will become a bigger risk to resign. So basically they are betting that 2010 was real.

1.14.10, the day I went green.

by njnick on Feb 17, 2011 7:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

batshit insane crazy

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

MLB

has a video of all of them together. It is insane to watch. All or almost all are inside. I kept thinking, why not just pitch him away, away, away as the say. If you poke around the Pirates blog there are some links to changes he made in his swing.

by ol Pete on Feb 17, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

found on bluebird banter

link

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TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 18, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope this all plays out

Like LeBron, but exactly opposite.

La Decision

STL Boys/Girls club, Albert being interviewed by whatever the rough equivalent of Jim Gray would be….

Albert is sitting on stage, surrounded by family, friends, and kids. When asked what his decision will be he says he’s staying in STL and demolishing every non-roided up record, and a few of the roided-up ones, and that he loves STL.

Children rejoice.

He talks about how he loves his family, how they love STL and a deal needed to get done.

He then says that he loves his teammates, his city, his manager, and his organization, says that it was the best fit for him, and that STL is a great city, not just a great baseball city. He talks in depth about how he feels like STL does everything it can to put a winning team around him, and that he couldn’t imagine leaving our organization.

A ringing endorsement for the team, organization, and a public service announcement letting everyone know what a great place STL is.

But, instead, my guess is we’ll get a Timmy Kurkijan/Buster Olney quick hit announcing that Albert signed a 10 year 295 million dollar contract, and Albert
will continue to be historically great for the only team he’s ever known.

Either way, I think Albert will be back, we’ll do what we have to to keep him, he won’t want to go, and we’ll all be happy. I feel like Albert has never gave any indication that he would rather be anywhere else, and that after 10 years, he might just want to see how much everyone ELSE would love to have him before he locks it down for the rest of his career with the only love he’s ever had.

by pbg222 on Feb 17, 2011 8:08 AM EST reply actions  

Albert apparently made a crack about LeBron

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Funny how with Lebron he actually took less money to leave

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

LeBron signed a max deal with the Cavs before being traded to the Heat.

he got more money and an extra year rather than signing as a FA an helped the Heat’s salary cap situation.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I just don't understand how NOT negotiating during the season

doesn’t create a bigger distraction than negotiating during the season.

Is he not familiar with espn?

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 8:42 AM EST reply actions  

It may create a distraction for us.

I don’t know how much a player actually watches ESPN, though.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Plenty watch

I’ve heard quotes from many players about being on SC or watching some incredible highlight they did in the top 10 highlights for the day.

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

warning: stav.
Probably the most universal clubhouse distraction is watching SportsCenter reruns over and over again until everyone knows every word of the telecast by heart, but sports in general are always big.



would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

K-Mac with some nice tan lines.

WHERE THE HELL IS FREESE’S ANKLE SUPPORT!?!?

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

oh noooooooooooo

they’re gone!!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Internal?

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of these guys are barely-HS-graduating meatheads

I’d imagine ESPN is near the top of most athletes’ channel searching. I’m sure they watch less baseball (going to 180 games a year 3 hours before the game starts MIGHT burn you out on baseball), but I’m sure they keep up with what’s going on.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 17, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

There is only so much to actually talk about if they’re obviously not negotiating and continue to not negotiate. If they don’t stick to the plan and start to negotiate a little here and there, the media will jump on it, and it will become truly distracting.
But look at how stale the coverage is already getting. There is almost nothing left to be said about the situation. Actual baseball will start and people will start to pay more attention to the season itself. The attention will taper off.
Sure, people will bring it up here and there, but I don’t think it will become this constant specter that some fear.
The only way to not have it be any distraction was for them to agree to a deal now. I think they really can minimize the distraction by just being stubborn and disciplined, and shutting up about it for a while. Other stuff will happen for the talking heads to move on to (like actual baseball being played).

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

things will quickly quiet down until september (or the trade deadline, if the cards are doing terribly)

by mikey_mac on Feb 17, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

until our first series in chicago in may

imagine the ‘we want albert’ chants ringing through that cesspool

by _pistol_ on Feb 17, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually kind of looking forward to that, if it happens

After all those years and all those boos and hate fests, it’ll be hilarious to see the Cubs fan salivate at the thought of having the player they coveted.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

A manageable message

If there were ongoing negotiations, there would be continuous questions and answers in every city the Cardinals are playing, plus nightly ESPN updates and goofy Tony Kornheiser commentary with him holding a Bill DeWitt mask over his weird little bearded face. NOT negotiating, the response is consistent and controlled: “Hey, mang, I’m playing for Sant Louis dis season.” End of comment.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Feb 17, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Even in the ESPN age, you can only come up with so much fluff when there is nothing new to work with.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Might be the end of the comment

but it doesn’t stop a handful of reporters in every city the team visits from asking the question. Reporters aren’t that original. Especially beat reporters. They latch on to whatever they find that might be juicy.

Also, don’t think that Pujols is the only one who’s going to be asked any questions. So is Tony, so are his teammates. If they were still “negotiating” then I’m sure the questions would come, but they’d be directed at Pujols. But now, this opens up to “opinion” questions they can ask the rest of the team.

Just because you say something “isn’t a distraction” doesn’t mean it’s not. Actually, if you have to keep saying it’s not a distraction, then it probably is. Time will tell obviously, but I think some have their head in the sand if they don’t think this affects the rest of the team.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

There was similar talk about McGwire last spring

about how each new city would require a press conference about his past and that his hiring would be a huge distraction for the team per the media. Didn’t seem to occur.

The players will have canned comments to blow off inquiries about this one.

by ubeddie on Feb 17, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

This, although I feel like Pujols will be a bigger deal than McGwire.

But honestly, since Albert wasn’t going to sign during the off-season, I see it as choosing the lesser of two possible kinds of distraction.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

because it's not new york

if it was, would not be possible

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Feb 17, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

A Positive Sign

As much as I want the Cardinals to sign El Hombre, this is probably a good sign. DeWitt is not going to hand Pujols a contract that will prevent us from competing for the next 10 years. Hopefully, winning is more important to Albert than grabbing another 20 million that could be used to sign the talent we need to compete.

by Plowboy on Feb 17, 2011 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Albert's going to get what he wants

Going to free agency guarantees it.

If DeWitt doesn’t budge (and I think he will), then he’ll get what he wants elsewhere.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Going to free agency guarantees nothing

What if the market is weaker than Lozano and Albert think?

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by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

a la matt holliday

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Then there is a good chance the Cardinals offer will still stand

because they won’t know what other teams are offering him.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't underestimate the power of Money + Stupid

There’s more than enough money out there and definitely plenty of stupid.

Besides, not knowing what other teams are bidding can actually work against the teams. If you don’t know and you really, really want him, you might have to go higher.

Teams have bid against themselves in the past.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

what i am say is

there is very little chance that the price will drop below what the cardinals have already offered.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

it won't drop

but how high will it get? the offer they threw out there could already be the highest or best fit. but pujolazano don’t know and neither do the cardinals.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 17, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

right

so there is almost no risk in Pujols going to free agency. there is a 95% the worse case scenario for Pujols is that he signs the deal the Cardinals offered him in January.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i just

don’t see this as bad as everyone thinks. if the cardinals will pay 300/10 it doesn’t mean they should. if albert will agree to 200/10 it doesn’t mean he should. they should pay what the market thinks he is worth, not just guess, which is what they are doing now.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 17, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

There is almost no reason for either to sign now, expect if the cardinals could have convinced thim to sign 10/200. I’m sure they would have jumped on that.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Little risk to Pujols, more for the team

at least IMHO. Really, the only risk to Albert for not signing now is that he gets injured during the year. For the Cards, however, there’s two sides to the situation. One, they lessened their risk of blowing money on a player who becomes hobbled and a shell of himself but, OTOH, obviously the risk of losing out on signing Albert increases from 0% (had he signed now) to some higher percentage. We can’t tell what those chances (of him leaving) will be, but if the club wanted him signed to an extension (more than they wanted him at a decent salary), I feel that their chances for that have gone down significantly.

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 17, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd have to suffer a pretty catastrophic injury

(catastrophic might be a bit of a strong term….but close to it)

to affect his next contract. Most are looking at him getting an 8 to 10 year contract. Are you really going to let an injury stand in the way of that size of a contract if you’re in any sort of bidding contest?

You have to figure he’s going to get hurt at some point in 10 years, right?

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, yeah

I guess I was thinking of something like his elbow finally giving out and having to have TJ surgery. He’d be out for 6-9 months and there would be some concern over his recovery (not much for a position player, true). Likewise, if a knee blew or somesuch. So yeah, by injury, I mean something major requiring multiple month of recovery, etc., etc.

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 17, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

there isn't "very little chance" it will drop

there is no chance it’ll drop.

Just off the top of my head, there are 3 teams I can think of who have, in very famous deals, bid against themselves. And all 3 are very interested in Albert joining their team.

Rangers
Cubs
Cardinals

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

well

I mean, he could have TJ and wrist surgery some time in September or something. Or get into a car accident and lose a leg. But barring injury, I don’t see a way for it to drop.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Or he could noticeably decline in production.

Which will give even more pause to a team that’s thinking about those back-end years.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 17, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

define "noticeably decline"

and i’ll ask then, do you really think in a contract year where he’s apparently trying to set the bar, that he’ll have such a down year as to negate his previous 10 years and projections going forward?

You make it sound like he’s going to hit .270 with 17 home runs.

It’s still Albert Pujols.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't put much stock into

“contract year” performance. I’m pretty sure Albert has been trying his best the last 10 years and will continue trying his best this year too.

Who knows when Pujols will start “noticeably declining”? I don’t think it will be this year but it’s possible (and a risk, just like injury), and it’ll start sooner or later. For every Hank Aaron or Stan Musial there’s a Jimmie Foxx or a Frank Thomas.

For me noticeable decline means he puts up a 6.0-6.5 WAR season. I think that’ll be enough to start creating doubt about whether anything more than a 7-8 yr deal is a good idea.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 17, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It won't be

he’ll get his paper.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh okay

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Unrelated

The “Yadi laughing at a hole in the fence” pic in the more photos gallery for today inspires a short story of Anderson being held in a dungeon.

by oldchap on Feb 17, 2011 8:50 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

thanks for pointing that out, you old chap

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by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 18, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the Cardinals are playing this right

1. If the Cardinals want to stay competitive year after year, they can’t do something stupid.
2. I think everyone agrees that signing Pujols for 10/300 would qualify as doing something stupid.
3. Losing to the Pujols to the Cubs would be really painful for 3 to 5 years, but then it would start to look like a Soriano deal as Pujols ages.
4. 10/300 is the high water mark. His demands can’t get any worse than that. The fact that Boston and NY are (probably) out means there won’t be a bidding war.
5. I’d be willing to bet that Pujols would still make the Cardinals the default and give them right of first refusal unless they piss him off.
6. If Pujols’ demands were to get worse, then they will only get more stupid.
7. What do the Cardinals have to lose from waiting this out? The odds are that they could only get him for less, not more.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Feb 17, 2011 8:55 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

4) There will be a bidding war

It just might not get to the stupid heights that NY and Boston are known for taking them to

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

If we were to participate, then that would be stupid

I’m very glad to let the Cubs or Angels do something stupid, although it would be more fun if the Cubs did. Yes, it will be painful for a number of years, but then it won’t be.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Feb 17, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

We are pretty good at bidding against ourselves

Barring injury I think Holliday’s contract will turn out better than what we thought when he signed it.

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I dont think that contract is bad at all really. Sure looks a hell of a lot better than Crawford and Werth’s.

10.27.06..greatest day of my life

by steveo61086 on Feb 17, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Posnanski had a good piece on this yesterday.

I read it last night. It’s entitled, “”http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2011/02/cashing-in-without-yankees.html" >Cashing In Without The Yankees."

Anyway, the thought is that without those three big spenders in the mix — OK, let’s be honest, without the New York Yankees — Pujols’ options for the big money are dramatically limited, perhaps even doomed. The thought is that to get a record breaking contract, which seems to be what Albert Pujols wants, you need to have the Yankees to drive up the price.

As mentioned, I’ve had that exact thought. But then I remembered something.

The craziest contracts in baseball history have almost NEVER been given out by the New York Yankees.

Of course, I would argue that the second A-Rod deal is the craziest in baseball history (for now), and that was signed by the Yankees. Still, Posnanski has a point.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Red Sox

I think if he goes anywhere, Albert will go to Boston. I hope not, but their situation fits and they have Fort Knox gold money. It seems apparent Albert wants to a) make money, b) be part of winning tradition, c) win – all those being equally weighted. As Dr. House would comment, “Boston fits.”

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Feb 17, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

The Boston "fits" argument

Stan Musial-as-demigod is replaced by Ted Williams-may-be-soon-cloned (though, does this mean The Man’s head will be cryogenically frozen upon his death? Who knows…), the Red Sox have won 2 world series in since 2004, and I don’t think anyone will question their financial resources.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Feb 17, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I won't argue on them being loaded with money

but having money doesn’t mean you’re going to win.

Are you saying that anyone who wins a couple WSs can be labeled as winning tradition? If thats the case then nearly all the teams can be labeled as having a winning tradition

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

The Red Sox have won 12 pennants, the third-most in the AL.

The Red Sox have won 7 World Series championships, which is fourth-most all-time.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I stand corrected

That 100 year drought sticks out in my mind. They did tear through the 1910s with a few WS wins

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I also think that we the fans tend to think "winning tradition."

During the ten years of Pujols’s big-league career, the Red Sox, Yankees, and Cardinals have probably been the winningest franchises with the most postseason appearances. Only the Yankees can match the Cardinals’ tradition, but, in terms of recent winning, I would think those to be the top 3.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

The Phillies have won a World Series and a pennant,

but they have only appeared in 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010. Not that four straight postseason berths isn’t good. It’s just less than the Cards, Yanks, and Sox over the last ten or eleven years.

Cards appeared in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2009.

Yanks appeared in every year but one.

Sox appeared in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, and 2009.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Boston have an exceptionally good farm system, an exceptional front office, lots of good players signed to sensible deals under the age of 30

and a fuck-ton of money.

I think we can safely conclude they’re going to be one of the best teams in baseball for most of the remainder of Albert’s career.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 17, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Still may not translate to the playoffs though.

Unless the divisions are re-aligned. They’ll have to go through the Yankees and Rays each year. The Rays are great at developing talent too and the Yankees can buy it.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i was going to disagree

but then, you used the fuck-ton argument.

by _pistol_ on Feb 17, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Look an Ass-load of tradition + a Fuck-ton of money + Sphincter-gram of fan support

adds up to Boston being a player next offseason

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by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Boston fans and sphincters

They just go together.

Bleah.

"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill

by lordsummer on Feb 17, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

But it's never the first thing that House says, right? (Or is it after all??? Whoa, so many layers of misdirection!)

Maybe this time it really is Lupus!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah...

It’s never lupus.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Feb 17, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Tell that to my old dog.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Those lupus billboards always crack me up.

You know, people realizing that they might be werewolves.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Feb 17, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Part of me wants to see him go there.

I mean, I fucking despise the Red Sox. Why would I want him to go there, then?

1) I think the world would finally really, truly get how amazing he is.
2) He would DESTROY in Fenway.
3) We would almost never have to face him, thereby removing the awkwardness.

I dunno. I still want him here.

by mattisnotfrench on Feb 17, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

7

yeah, they should wait it out. what if they sign a mega contract and then he gets hurt this year?

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be (always is) a risk

However, don’t think the odds are that he signs a contract next fall for less than was offered now. Will he sign then for less than he would have signed now? maybe, but the price to the Cardinals, compared to what was offered, has very little chance of going down (barring injury).

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 17, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Miggy Cabrera got picked up for a DUI last night.

So, at least we haven’t had one of those this ST. Yet.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

I saw that earlier today too

Hopefully Freese and TRL are splitting the cost of a driver in ST

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Total Request Live is employed by the Cardinals!?

Is Carson Daly at Spring Break, er, Training?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

TLR

but how is Carson Daly still employed?

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

is he still employed?

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Seeing that come on was how I knew I'd stayed up too late the other night.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Please no.

Any year but that one.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

If you wind up in that year

You and I walked into the wrong time machines. Doc Brown, please set the DeLorean to March 1, 2001…never mind why…and while I’m at it, I think I’ll make a few phone calls to the FBI, FAA, and maybe the CIA. Something about suicidal terrorist freaks with airplanes.

"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill

by lordsummer on Feb 17, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

That's not why I don't want to relive that year.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That Dale Earnhardt death really did a number on you.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 18, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

10 years today.

But no. My brother almost died that year. And I had a lousy boyfriend.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

also

tell the Cards to sign their rookie slugger to a 20 year 300MM contract.

oh, and make them promise to never trade for Mulder

Or what? You’ll release the dogs, or the bees, or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?

by Hootie Who on Feb 18, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

He has some show.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 17, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Knowing his past, that his very unfortunate

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

the cop pulled up and he took a swig of scotch

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

how do rich people get DUIs? i don't understand this.

if i was rich, i would have a driver that just sat around and waited for me and took me everywhere. it would be so awesome. i would sit in the backseat and read a book or play scrabble or something. WHY WOULD YOU EVER DRIVE DRUNK?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Read a book or play scrabble?

Your life sounds so exciting!

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't talk shit about scrabble.

I will cut you.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT TOTAL

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

what else could i do while i'm drunk in the back of a car alone?

….wait. don’t answer that.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

You could come up with some awesome Scrabble words when you're alone and drunk.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 17, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Drunk Dirty Word Scrabble is so much fun

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah, that is fun.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

If your rich enough to afford a chauffer

then you could just do shit loads of drugs.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

or that. see, there are a lot of opportunities for you to use that time! don't spend it driving.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Gould Twitter...

“I want to be a Cardinal forever”

http://twitter.com/dgoold/status/38235719554187264

Right from the horse’s mouth.
:=8)

Whoya finna try?

by The MooCow on Feb 17, 2011 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

what do you know of horses!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

We trust our barnyard buddies....

…but NEVER trust a chicken!

:=8.

Whoya finna try?

by The MooCow on Feb 17, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Boog?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 17, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

the pope needs to get on that shit

give him the cathedral basilica

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Feb 17, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I just hope

Harold Reynolds sees this so he can stop spewing his “Maybe Pujols just wants to play somewhere else” theory.

by DisplacedCardsFan on Feb 17, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

He's been saying that for a week now.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Bud Selig will come out with a

reminder to MLB executives about the definition of collusion.

I think it’s bullshit that a general manager can talk to someone within the team about what he would offer Pujols and then that team official can go right to the media without violating any MLB rules. Anyone employed by the team in any capacity shouldn’t be able to talk about the contract situation of a player currently under contract with another team.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

that's tampering, not collusion.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Bud Selig will come out with a

reminder to MLB executives about the definition of tampering.

I think it’s bullshit that a general manager can talk to someone within the team about what he would offer Pujols and then that team official can go right to the media without violating any MLB rules. Anyone employed by the team in any capacity shouldn’t be able to talk about the contract situation of a player currently under contract with another team.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

(nice save)

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Send that tweet to Conseco.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Seattle?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

picspam thread.

Albert can’t even get anybody to carry his boxes. what kind of two-bit operation is this

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

He intercepted the package. It's not his.

TLR convinced Aaron Miles to ship himself to Jupiter in the hopes that the Dodgers would forget about him.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I kind of hate this album

the last time they devoted a whole album to a single player arriving at Spring Training, it was Brendan Ryan.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe we should throw that into the contract

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

okay, here's a photo masterlist of spring training

perhaps not the masterlist, we’ll ask d-dee where she hides the good links.

Twitstuff (Goold and Leach)
http://twitpic.com/3xfxfr – anticip…
http://twitpic.com/3ybeca – jerseys
http://twitpic.com/3y0cmu – boys take the field (9th)
http://twitpic.com/3y0cmu – the first Waino of spring
http://twitpic.com/3yo9na – hideous scar or tat
http://twitpic.com/3zrrkq – pitchers
http://twitpic.com/405lik – Shelby

Scott Rovak

PD (Chris Lee)
13th Zach Cox, Rick Ankiel, plenty of Tony
15th Pitchers and Catchers
15th Stretching, Batting, Pitching, Baby Bench
16th moar plus Albert (see above for that album)

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

at first blush, ladies and other fanciers

I recommend this album. It’s short on ace pitchers, but long on the young uns. Stop at the second cage closeup of Matt Carpenter, after that is all presser.

Also, Tallet-watch opens with a full beard, close-trimmed.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

needs moar freese

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

try the album just above.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Fun fact

The software flags every comment with 5 or more hyperlinks in it. Y2S has 40 spam flags leading the field by a wide margin.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Feb 18, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

so if I train more minions to do what I do, you'll go crazy?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

a much nicer picture from Rovak

slow down… there’s enough for everyone.
http://yfrog.com/h2p32omj

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

It's Aknot from The Fifth Element

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

like

this?

yeah, that’s mine, from a d-dee shot.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I absolutely love that picture.

I think my laptop background we’ll have to start a rotation of THAT, Celebration Mob after the Holliday Walkoff, and “Spirit of VEB” (my title)

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

you know what, I made that so long ago, I'm not sure if there's a larger version.

I make so many Photoshop snafus, though, like saving only the small file size. remind me, later.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

an actual tipping pitches picture.

whaddaya know.

the knothole gang picture might be the other side.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it just me, or does that look like the Cheshire Cat?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 17, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

if it ate waino

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

as an aside on the aside

the FOTs (besides Stavinoha, Isringhausen, and Ankiel) spotted so far — Bill Parcells and Dennis Eckersley, though Eck might be there with his network. and Smoltz.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I bet that was incredibly painful and profane

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I had the same thought

I mean, I know he’s in his early thirties and desperately trying to hang out to some sort of youthfulness, but a crazy Armani Exchange print shirt? C’mon, Albie. You’re a mang now.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Feb 17, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I just don't get the truck. hahah

I mean, I grew up in rural Southern IL. I understand jacked up trucks with big tires down there.

But I see ‘em here in the Chicago suburbs. And when someone posted "Pujols’ truck is here" I figured he had a pickup. I love pickups.

But no, he’s got a jacked up truck! And it was brought in on a trailer . I haven’t figured out why suburban guys want that.

by sdrone on Feb 17, 2011 10:07 AM EST reply actions  

so he don't get jacked.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm just surprised the published that

with the license plate and all.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

it's on the wire now...

they better hit the DOT

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe it's his cousin's

the one he doesn’t like, but he’s too nice of a guy to tell it to his face

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

To haul around his palate of gold bars.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

i think it was Bill Hicks

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Or was it Louie C.K.?

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

he eats gold bars?

no wonder he needs that big contract

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m a master of alchemy. Nobody worry about the Pujols contract. I’ve got it covered.

readies gold spraypaint

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

why is your subject line on the bottom?

you’re doing it wrong

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Just because I come from the Bizarro world doesn’t mean I can’t understand elitist subject line snobbery.

Badbye to you, sir.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

conform already!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I bought a house in an area where my children will go to a terrible school… I bought a historically troublesome car for over the bluebook value… and I wear socks on my hands and mittens on my feet.

I spit in the general direction of your status quo.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

no, you're thinking of aranathor

A free pound of bacon with every test drive

by gdm426 on Feb 17, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

If anybody but you said that

i might be angry

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i miss you & love you mate

A free pound of bacon with every test drive

by gdm426 on Feb 17, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I love you too man

Platonically of course.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

get a room you two.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Or a cave

Speaking of Plato.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

of course

A free pound of bacon with every test drive

by gdm426 on Feb 17, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be highly surprised if that ever get's dirty

let alone see any real mud.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 17, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I would guess, that it might see quite a bit of play time at the Pujols compound.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

apocalypse clause

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

oh NOW SportsCenter bothers to give Albert a nice montage.

BASTARDS.

nice bunch of highlights.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

Albert says "You guys don' have any clue."

the official word is that Albert LAUGHS AT YOUR NUMBERS.

no, seriously. that’s basically what he said.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Cardinal Nation awkwardly chuckles, wiping off palms.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

The Cat makes it on SC

his moment of glory!

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

including a "come on, mang."

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

The more I think about it. . .

the more I think the Cardinals probably did offer a lowball offer, something like 8/$200MM, or maybe even less than the $25MM AAV that is probably the minimum AAV that Pujols would be willing to discuss.

Unless it was something like that, Albert would be taking on a lot of risk in not signing something close. Think about it, if Albert and the Birds were within $25MM or so, how much money would Albert lose if he blows out a knee this season or (gulp) has a Cliff Floyd-type collision at 1B? $30MM? $50MM? In the event of an essentially career-ending Cliff Floyd injury, a whole lot more than that.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 17, 2011 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

Won't happen...

…because the guy has God on his side.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Feb 17, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

What language is your sig?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Nevermind

It was a typo that was messing with Google Translate.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

8yr/$200MM is a "lowball" offer?

That’s easily the biggest non-Arod contract in history. A five year extension for Howard at 25MM AAV and an 8 year deal at 25MM AAV are not remotely the same contract (obviously, as there’s a $75MM difference in guaranteed money). Just like a 1yr/$8mm contract is not the same thing as a 3yr/$24MM contract (indeed, that is a relatively small difference compared to the $125MM-$200MM comparison).

by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 17, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn it, Holliday is a savvy veteran

That means een our best players are getting gritty

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 17, 2011 12:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

he even offered to play a different position.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, does that mean he's gritty too?

What’s not to love about this guy!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

actually you can watch the movie off the reflection.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, that's fair.

But still, stadium seating will mitigate that.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

it sure looks like Freese is wearing them, now.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

For sure.

Dude looks like he is sporting Airwalks from Payless.

And he’s doing that thing the kids do so that he doesn’t have to tie them.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

...that's actually to keep his ankles on.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

where is a picture of freese's shoes? i have looked at all the pictures!

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

not closely enough

you’re clearly not ready for any IHeartFreese, missy. it’s on this page.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

bah...i know the pic. i was looking for on-the-field action

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

we were talking about off-the-feild

if ya know what i mean.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

wtf Y2S

all this and you miss that typo? fail.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

it's those Anglo-Saxons

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Feild

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Feild!

The Red Hot Dealer!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Here is my take FWIW

Why wouldn’t you let this play out in free agency? If the FO determined that they will pay AP 300/10 and just gave it to him, then yes we could all breath a collective sigh of relief. However if you bring the other teams into the fray and it is determined that we can have him for 260/10 then they have saved 4mil which can then be applied(or not) elsewhere. 4mil a year gets you 2 skip schumakers or helps you sign your 1st round draft pick. Just sayin.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 17, 2011 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

If Albert was signed for 300/10, I'd be sighing for a completely different reason.

And besides, free agency usually works the other way around. Usually people tend to overbid, and especially in this case, since the market is on Pujols’ side, he would probably not accept anything lower than what he wanted.

If I had a nickel for every time I procrastinate, I probably wouldn't be procrastinating anymore.

by hr on Feb 17, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I think

one of the questions that really have to be asked here is will there be anybody that is reckless enough to spend over 30mil a year for one guy, or give him 10 years. Then the question becomes will someone give him both?

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 17, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I try to remember that markets can make adjustments. I don’t assume teams will be truly willing to give him an A-Rod+ contract just because A-Rod got an A-Rod contract. Not saying nobody will, but I am not assuming it either.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus

nobody seems to remember that A-Rod was a shortstop and now is a third baseman. Isn’t there more value at those positions as well? Hitters play at first. Arod has a glove as well.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 17, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

He's not a very good 3Bman, but yeah. He's not a 1Bman.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

What's crazy is

As awesome a hitter as A-Rod has been, Pujols is that much better.
A-Rod’s top 5 years by wRC+ are: 178, 175, 162, 161, 160
Pujols’ top 5 years by wRC+ are : 185, 184, 181, 175, 170

Pujols is so good at defense and such a good hitter that he’s basically A-Rod’s equal even though they have spent time on opposite sides of the defensive spectrum.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Pujols is ridiculous.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, it still makes some difference

Arod’s top six fWAR seasons: 9.8, 9.8, 9.6, 9.4, 9.2, 9.1
Albert’s top six fWAR seasons: 9.5, 9.3, 8.7, 8.4, 8.3, 7.9

by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 17, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that too...

Heh. I was kind of hoping nobody would point that out!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The more I think about it, the less incentives I see for a deal to be signed now.

there is still PLENTY of time to negotiate, and he is still a Cardinal. I assume (even though I know nothing, NOTHING!) that each side took pretty strong stances (Cardinals on the low side, Albert on the high side), and neither side had plans to budge from those stances.

I think Albert will remain the face of the Cardinals for a long time (wishful thinking? you betcha). But if not, we have a LARGE headed LFer, a very handsome starting pitcher, a defensive magician at catcher, and a dingdangyoungolcenterfielder, to use as a base for the $30million we would have spent on The Maching.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

there is no

incentive for the Cardinals unless they want to overpay. They are taking the achievement and greatness and historic and whatever great adjective you want to use and not overreacting to it.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 17, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

both sides are acting rationally

and Albert’s latest interview (mentioned above), helped to stop any negative feelings creeping into my brain. I hope that he is sincere, it would be disappointing to be let down by him.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Anybody know where I can see or read this interview?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm trying to find the full video, but my tabs are flailing.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

by the way, not that this will surprise anyone

Strauss’s account completely sucks all the ebullience from the actual interviews. Leach’s Mothership article is more descriptive, with more direct quotes.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Cool, thanks

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Why would Strassie give you actual quotes

when he can summarize them and spin the story in the way he sees fit?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

take two rides on the unicorn and call us in the morning

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

oh, silly me

how could I forget BJ Rains.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

You know,

my only problem with Albert’s quotes, and Mo’s, and DeWitt’s, are that, if they all truly felt like that, if the 10/300 was “way off” and if the team ended up offering 8/200+ with an ownership share and “did our best” and if Albert’s goal is to be a Cardinal for life, then

WHY THE HELL ISN’T HE SIGNED?

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 17, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

because there is no really reason to sign

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

KMOX hooks us up!

page o’ audio

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

Even if he gets huge, Rolling Stones-like offers from other teams, as long as the Cardinals are competitive with the market, I believe Albert will stay in St. Louis. The Cardinals know they will have to pay huge to make this happen, maybe they’re totally willing, but why not let the season play out to be sure that the market is what everyone seems to think it is.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Feb 17, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Depends on how the dumbasses loosen up on roid users.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Even without the roids I'm not sure Sheff is a HOFer

If Edmonds is borderline, Sheff is a no. And I don’t think it’s crazy to use the steroids argument on the borderline guys.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 17, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

He actually has a better case than I realized

I’d imagine his support will be pretty strong among the sports writers. Steroids Era questions will have a big role.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

...
There’s not a lot that goes in my coconut.

-TLR

Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.

by all4tookie on Feb 17, 2011 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

periodo.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Also

“I’m so single-minded” – TLR

link

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

don't worry, TLR

I think we all are

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Advice for TLR

Get a lime.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 17, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I almost missed this ... SMOLTZ!!
CardsInsider Busy morning in Jupiter. 5 starters had an early morning sit-down w/ @MLBNetwork and John Smoltz http://pk.gd/ACFk about 2 hours ago via Pikchur

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

i'm verklempt.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Heh. I wonder what they talked about...

Smoltz: Hey Adam, remember that time I got “gum on my shorts” and Kyle totally fell for it? That was awesome.
Wainwright: [Laughs]
Lohse: Heh, that gum was really weird lookin’!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'll bet veterany veteranness helps him.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

but where is his proveyness, mattybobo. where!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

has he shaved his head for the cause?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

He's getting a

taste of the East Coast Media/Bias. This is good for him.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 17, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

he always seems rather zen

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He does.

I wouldn’t want to piss him off, though. I wonder what he would look like if he got Chris Carpenter angry?

by peppermartin on Feb 17, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

if anyone wants some non-WWL

Dan Patrick Show is hitting it up, next.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

here's a fun thought...

watch that premature pujols video and then imagine you watching it eight months from now after he announces he’s signing with the mets.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 17, 2011 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

BE LESS GRUMPY

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to believe he's single.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm a very happy person today.

the weather is gorgeous, i’m not mind blowingly busy, i don’t have all that much to do, and spring training has started. am i really coming off as that grumpy?

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 17, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

"Hey guys - imagine that the best Cardinal of our lifetime is playing for another team?

Aren’t I pleasant?"

But I’m glad you’re in a good mood. I am too. It’s hard not to be when it’s spring-time in February.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i was simply making a reference to how that video could be legit in eight months...

instead of a joke. and how sad it would be to watch that video if albert truly signed with another team.

but yeah, all my windows are open in my room today. it’s wonderful.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 17, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

how many windows does one room have?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I've got 5 in my living room.

Plus a balcony door.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I have one...

My room suuucccks.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

My room has one as well.

I like it because I don’t likelight when I sleep so there are less blackout curtains to buy.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 17, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

My office only has one

and it is 85ft underground so all I can see is cave when I look out…

Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Yeah, I have a Twitter...big whoop...wanna fight about it?

by nomar34 on Feb 17, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That's... odd.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

says the woman with 5 windows

and a balcony door…

Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Yeah, I have a Twitter...big whoop...wanna fight about it?

by nomar34 on Feb 17, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, that's pretty standard for the type of city building I'm in.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

mostly

Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Yeah, I have a Twitter...big whoop...wanna fight about it?

by nomar34 on Feb 17, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

is this Plato's cave?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i admit

i had to look that up. interesting.

Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Yeah, I have a Twitter...big whoop...wanna fight about it?

by nomar34 on Feb 17, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

it stuck with me from some long ago classroom

where we discussed the dimensions of this cave. your description reminded me.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The Matrix = The Cave

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

well, only the Matrix itself.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Plato was an idiot...

Of course what I mean is in ancient Greece, a person who kept to himself and out of public life was referred to as an idiotes (ιδιοτης: say "id-ee-oh-tase). The noun derives from the adjective idios (ιδιος: say "id-ee-ohs") meaning "private," and the "occupational suffix "–της" (remember αθλητης?), meaning "person who…" Now over time, it began to take on a pejorative meaning because people who did not get involved with public life were seen as "ignorant" or even "simple-minded."

Whoya finna try?

by The MooCow on Feb 17, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

MooCow, I must say you are quite the idiosyncratic VEBer

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Plato, while not an idiot, had some pretty insane

ideas. Which I like, because it allows you to easily spot the pretentious young adult know-it-alls who say The Republic is their favorite book but have probably never read it. Because there’s some batshit insane stuff in there.

by mattyp on Feb 17, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm really a fan of batshit insane, myself.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Where's Troy Glaucon when we need him.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

No. No.

That’s CodyG. Unless he gave up his positon to nomar.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 17, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

no

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 17, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

taco party pack

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The taco themed decor helps your love life, I'm sure.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

It's subliminal.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

nice

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Feb 17, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

it's my roommate's...

it’s our “wall of fame” kind of thing just as a running joke. he put a whole taco party pack down one night by himself (while sober) and felt the need to glorify it.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 17, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

We used to decorate our student apartment with old fliers that were expired

We were friends with a girl in the student gov’t whose job it was to keep track of them and make sure they were properly stamped, didn’t stay up too long, etc. So by the end of the year we had hundred of randomly colored piece of paper on our walls. Free decorations!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

that's true

fatalities and injuries due to campus fires have always been common.

…unfortunately that means fire drills in the middle of winter — also common.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I guaran-freaking-tee

I have the nerdiest wall decoration.

Ahem….

by mattyp on Feb 17, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, skymall. I love you so.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

ha...I actually bought it off Amazon

but I will admit its beauty first caught my eye during a flight. One day when I’m stinking rich I’m going to buy everything in that catalog.

by mattyp on Feb 17, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I've always wanted to buy everything in the Dover catalog.

they once had a contest for their entire fiction catalog.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, I've always wondered if it was real!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

CLEAN YOUR ROOM!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 17, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

...i am tempted to open photoshop to increase the light

and see what else is in this shot.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

just don't use a blacklight.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

you saying there's something to find?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm assuming it is not up to my standards of clean.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 17, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

you were gone too long, CG

everything’s gone to heck.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe it will start to sink in.

and that’s not true. once i just told you that you were being grumpy. i never told you to stop.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a very lawyery answer

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

thank you

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I told my fiancee that she was being a snot.

her : Did you just call me a snot?
Me : No, I said you were being a snot. Big difference.

I love double speak.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

No offense, but you're an asshole.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

he means you're acting like an asshole

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I said no offense!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Non taken. You speak the truth.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

With all due respect,

I didn’t realize you’d gotten experimental surgery to get your balls removed.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Feb 17, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Any reports on Lance Lynn's fastball velocity at camp?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

Mach 5

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Well..

My friend went to school with him. He told me about a time when one of his pitches ripped a hole in the space/time continuum and the whole team was transported to a land of dinosaurs… That said, I’m suiting up just in case the Cardinals end up in the land of the lost.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I once had a friend who went to school with this guy

that totally could have played QB at a division I school. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) he and the entire team were sucked into a space/time hole back to the days of King Arthur. Turns out Merlin needed a team of teenagers with attitude to replace the knights of the round table after evil enchantress Queen Morgana froze them all in ice or something.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I went to school with a guy that could throw a football over them mountains.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Could he throw that speedball by ya, make ya look like a fool, boy?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we please go one week without getting that song stuck in my head, VEB?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

You know...

I was trying to add some insider knowledge to the commentary… In contrast, what you said is just ridiculous.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just surprised nobody has picked up on my reference

to the popular Saturday morning cartoon King Arthur and the Knights of Justice.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

"popular"

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It ran for two whole seasons!

Actually that’s longer than I thought, but Wikipedia tells me so.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I must have been busy watching cartoon wayne gretzky fight crime and keep kids off drugs.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

That show definitely needed more...

animated Junkyard Dog getting into hijinks and shenanigans. Perhaps, I’m partial.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't go wrong with more of the JYD.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Another classic!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Street Sharks would’ve been a more appropriate fit, personally.

They are sharks… with legs… on the streets.

It writes itself, really.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

You'd think it would, anyway.

No idea how they screwed up that idea.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

must have been those biker mice from mars.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Or those...

Cowboys From Moo Mesa.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

They screwed it up?

Clearly, we were watching different shows.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I remembered something along those lines

I must have seen that cartoon once or twice. I seem to recall a movie or two along those lines also, that is, in addition to “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court”.

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 17, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I once knew 5 colour coded teenagers

who were kidnapped by an floating head in a tube because they had ‘attitude’ because some bint called ‘Rita’ had escaped.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I was Team Red Ranger.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 17, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Green Ranger ftw

he was bad ass, then he became the White Ranger and was a wuss

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

What are these rangers and why are they powerful?

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

they were hot and we were pubescent.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

NEVERMIND ABOUT THE STAR WARS THING

YOU HAVE NOW TOTALLY REDEEMED YOURSELF

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

asian is a yellow ranger, black guy a black ranger

relevant: zordon is a racist

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 18, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Alpha 5

is the answer to all your questions.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought 42 was the answer.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

the Yellow Ranger died in a car accident

which I think we actually covered here on VEB, some time ago

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

She was my favorite girl Power Ranger.

I actually hated Kimmy (Pink).

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 17, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Asian powa

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that video deliberatly over dramatic?

‘Well this just goes to show, he was no Power Ranger, he was just an ordinary guy’

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha I didn't even watch the video

But now I think I should

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

The punter for our college flag football team was the 3rd string punter for Florida

We punted pretty well.

The rest, not so much.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Feb 17, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

ur not doin it rite

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I once went to a Rams game in the Dark Ages before the Greatest Show on Turf Era

and honestly, the only thing the Rams did well was this one awesome punt that just went on forever.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think they can quantify that

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Seeing the clip of Albert's arrival this morning

brings me some sort of relief. From the kind of guy that he is, I feel like his “Cardinal for life” desire is sincere. I’m certain he won’t hit the free agent market. Best case scenario, Mo and DeWitt have five days to lock him up. Worst case scenario (which, technically, is ALWAYS the world ending; I don’t know why no one recognizes that), they have approximately five weeks to hash out a deal. Five to forty days, I’m sure that’s enough time for them to iron out a deal and prevent outside negotiations.

I know, in a perfectly SABR world, projected performance is the ideal variable in determining the value of a contract. I think, for the most part, Mo has done a good job of weighing the potential and not overpaying for players. But with a player like Albert, who can already be defined as man, myth and legend, what other factors do you guys need to be considered?

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Feb 17, 2011 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

If the Cardinals don't make the playoffs

Can’t they just start up negotiations again or do they have to wait until after the world series?

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Since he is under contract with the team, they can negotiate with him whenever they want.

He becomes a “free agent” 5 days after the World Series, thus ending the “exclusive” negotiating rights.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

I was thinking there was some stupid ban on negotiating during the playoffs so as to not take away from the playoffs

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Albert won't negotiate while the team is playing

that means after the Cards win the Series or once they are eliminated from the playoffs, whichever comes first. Maybe if the Cards are not in the WS, Albert could pull a ARod and announce that he is restarting negotitations during the middle of a WS game.

by ubeddie on Feb 17, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Bryan Burwell was in Jupiter

so he could write this column analogizing Pujols to “a great mansion that you buy on an adjustable rate mortgage and spread out the payments over 30 years, paying next to nothing early on and biting the bullet on the back end when the interest rates — and your cash flow — rises.” Seriously.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

Yea,

I gave up about 1/3 of the way through. Don’t know why I started reading it in the first place.

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 17, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

see

I’m going to give up before I click on that link.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

didn't we all learn

during the last 3 years, that adjustable rate mortgages are HORRIBLE!??!?!

Or what? You’ll release the dogs, or the bees, or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?

by Hootie Who on Feb 17, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Well done

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Today's comments are full of awesome

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what i was thinking.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Feb 17, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Ed Wade solidifying his reputation as baseball sooper genius.
Astros GM Ed Wade tells Richard Justice of the Houston Chronicle that he didn’t realize just how thin Houston’s minor league system was when he took over after the 2007 season.

Link.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

i almost did a spit-take.

but it would’ve been on my keyboard. AHAHAHAHA.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The last sentence is comical as well.

Referring to the Astros…

They’re not there, but they’re a lot closer than they were this time last year. They appear to be long shots in 2011. Just like the Reds were in 2010.

Reach harder.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

From Burwell to Gordon.

I haven’t read either of them in months, perhaps even more than twelve months. But, because I felt like the Pujols negotiations reminded me of the Renteria negotiations, I read Gordon’s column immediately after Burwell.

DeWitt will certainly sweeten his offer if Albert stays healthy this season and posts typical Albert numbers.

But will he pay top dollar? Almost certainly not, given all we know about his ownership style.

Yes, DeWitt refused to give top-dollar contracts to Matt Holliday, Kyle Lohse, Jim Edmonds, Jason Isringhausen, Scott Rolen, and Chris Carpenter. All we know about his ownership style is that he is a cheapskate, bent on cutting costs, and content to drive our top-end players out of town.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

dude just stop.

you’re taking years off your life right now.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 17, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah man, listen to fang

I made the mistake in getting into a facebook argument with a stranger. Apparently i’m an ass, a twitt, a sexist and my parents were bad parents because I’m not upset at Albert for asking for lots of money, don’t think he should be deported for his charity work in the Dominican and I think that the homeless pregnant lady panhandling may actually be responsible for being pregnant.

I think I’m done worrying about what anyone says on the subject of Pujols’ Contract until after the baseball season. I’m also going to stop arguing with people and just start devouring souls like an evilfrog should.

Shit aint worth my time.

Bring on Baseball!

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My god do I agree with you

Mabye i should be Buddhas Evil Illegitimate Child, and fuck Facebook

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 17, 2011 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Buddhasillegitimatetadpole?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm responsible for the panhandling lady's pregnancy.

just don’t tell her please.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree totally...

I have had multiple facebook arguments with my Cub fan friends going on a few days now. I finally left 1 last post on all of them stating Albert is still a Cardinal last time I checked and there were 10 months to go. I welcomed them to the party and said I was done talking about til he was wearing another teams uni. You can’t explain anything rationally to Cub fans. I’m done peace out and that I was going to watch The Mang’s greatness for a least one more year without taking it for granted. Shit wasn’t worth my time either.

Hooray for Baseball! Hooray for school!

"A slick way to out-figure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure." ~ Whitey Herzog

by birdsonabat on Feb 17, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Just tell them

You aren’t used to hearing “wait til next year” from them until at least June most years.

by Merry CRasmus on Feb 17, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a classic case of...

shit or get off the pot. Clearly, our ownership has terrible constipation, historically.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

It is spring training

And I don’t give a damn.

Play ball!

by IL and StL Fan on Feb 17, 2011 12:23 PM EST reply actions  

Have you considered other sports...

I hear good things about the baskets ball game.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought I'd go watch the Premier League

Where athletes don’t jump teams for money…

Play ball!

by IL and StL Fan on Feb 17, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Premier League...

Is that where the Wood Tiger hits the white ball at hole?

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

There is a ball,

But it’s bigger, and they use their feet….

Play ball!

by IL and StL Fan on Feb 17, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

You are smart man, sporting guy.

I will meet you at Premier’s League for drink now.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

HA ha….

Sorry, that made me laugh.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Glad that there is some joy from the situation

With a mock bow in the direction of Torres

Play ball!

by IL and StL Fan on Feb 17, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Torres, Rooney, Ronaldo

Most of the Man City squad, most of the Galacticós I and II… Football is just as full of it as MLB

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

From what I can see, it is quite a bit more brutal

At least the Yankees didn’t bear down on us five years ago and beat us into selling Pujols to them.

Play ball!

by IL and StL Fan on Feb 17, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

the only difference is that contracts mean something in MLB

admittedly its quite a big difference though, if a player switches teams in Football they get to renegotiate their contract with the new team. Whereas in MLB you get paid however much you signed for in the first place.

This is why all the talent tends to gravitate toward the top teams.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

ARRIAGA! ARRIAGA 2! BARRIAGA!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of which

the Original Ronaldo retired recently, scored the most World Cup goals ever and was pretty awesome even when he went all Elvis and ate 10,000 cheese burgers.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

holds it...holds it....

HOLDS IT

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Feb 17, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate Chelsea but I still love Fernando Torres.

There are only few players who get away with stuff like that in my world.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 17, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I still love Fernando Tatis

Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.

by all4tookie on Feb 17, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Now that's funny.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 17, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

as a fan of Liverpool.

i did an exaggerated eye-brow raise to this sarcastic statement

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Feb 17, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Who would be down for trading Albert for this year to the Yankees or Red Sox to incentivate how good he has it in St. Louis?

I bet if you spoke with Jack Clark and Edgar Renteria, they would tell you that they regretted leaving.

Kind of like an Amish Rumspringa for baseball.

by peppermartin on Feb 17, 2011 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

i'm up for trading anyone

depending on what we get back in return.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That said...

I have a nice package deal I want to discuss with you for your mother and firstborn.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you going for a trade him for a farm system

and then sign him back in the off season move? There by decimating some team for years to come?

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard Columbia was a hotbed of ex-Amish.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I definitely didn't move there to get laid...

I went for the furniture.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i freaking love incentivation

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard it was overrated

Also I’m kind of tired of Leonardo DiCaprio.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the same thing when i read it.

although, I liked the movie. maybe a little overrated, but it was still pretty good.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never seen it, I was just BSing

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: Flying into St. Louis tomorrow for a 5 day conference

anywhere I really need to go/eat/drink? Been to Busch before (going again), been to the Arch, Schlafly is on the list this time… any other suggestions?

VEB 2010 Fantasy Handegg Champion

by tehzachatak on Feb 17, 2011 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

I like Triumph.

Can’t go wrong with Fitz’s and Blueberry Hill on The Loop.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

where you staying?

Wait… for NACA?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

yup.

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by tehzachatak on Feb 17, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Will you have a car?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

no, sadly.

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by tehzachatak on Feb 17, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Schafly Tap Room isn't too far from there.

I don’t go downtown too often but do like Hair of the Dog on Washington ave for drinks.

Soulard is a quick cab ride away, lots of good places there — including Pappy’s BBQ new place which open’s tomorrow.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

HA!

the soft opening’s tonight

and guess who just got an invite?

by YesWeOquendo on Feb 17, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

cool. my wife gets to introduce Micky Ward at it this year.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

that's awesome

VEB 2010 Fantasy Handegg Champion

by tehzachatak on Feb 17, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope I did not say too much...

He and his half-brother are supposed to be speaking.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Too late.

Wolf Blitzer is currently discussing your comment in the Situation Room.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

it's not news till it's on 360

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

And, yeah, apparently it had/has not been announced.

SO EVERYONE FORGET THIS EVER HAPPENED.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 18, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks ol chap.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 18, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to go tweet it.

So, it should still be safe.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

oh damn, that was something we should've done this off-season

compile all the fanshots with city guides.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Went to trattoria marcella

This last weekend and it was pretty exceptional if you like italian food.

by Merry CRasmus on Feb 17, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

ooohh, they're lasagna is fantastic.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I love that place

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

calamari is pretty over done in saint louis

but I really like theirs.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

they are?

really?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Had the lobster risotto

And I think it was the best risotto I have ever had. Girlfriend had the beef tenderloin and it was also amazing. Cherry marscarpone cheesecake for dessert, same story.

I heard about the place for years, and just never went. I’ve been a damn fool. I’ll make sure to try the lasagna next time.

by Merry CRasmus on Feb 17, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

mmm. sounds good.

VEB 2010 Fantasy Handegg Champion

by tehzachatak on Feb 17, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Pappy's

City museum, Charlie Gitto’s (the original toasted rav or anywhere on the hill, eat rite (the original slinger), the zoo

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 17, 2011 5:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

frickin Albert montage!

….damn. I’ve seen all these games.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

sad news.

The Cat’s hard-hitting question was cut in the later SC.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Not hugely surprised by this

and not that concerned, either. He’s never been my favourite player and so I don’t think I’m quite as attached to the guy as a lot of fans and, realistically, the “next contract” for Albert is looking more and more as if it’s going to be a huge one, which is a pretty enormous risk for any club to take on. I wouldn’t be hugely bothered if we went for it this year, making a real run and perhaps a deadline trade or two to really compete, and then let Albert walk if he really wants to be the best paid player in the game. An A-Rod deal would be brutal.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 17, 2011 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

Is the first Spring Training game on February 28?

oh gob, i’m giddy with excitement

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

CALM YOURSELF

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

towel plz

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

This is his Justin Bieber concert moment.

Don’t take it away from him.

You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.

by timetraveltome on Feb 17, 2011 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

Chris McKendry just referred to Kruk and Kurkjian

with the term “bromance”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

the two K's

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Back to Back K's?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

is anyone worried that miguel bautista (sic?) will make the team?

TLR seems to like him

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

I think he'd be fine in a Hawksworth/PK role.

Long relief in blowouts. Low leverage middle relief.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, hopefully that's what he or snell are for

I’d rather have snell though, but I guess it’s not a big deal

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Just remembered i had a dream about opening day last night

good news: Amaury Marti Cazana was on the fucking team
Bad news: So was Stav, Miles and some other unnamed short gritty guy.

But hey, they were hitting the baseball good, maybe it was some sort of bizarro universe, or i was in Memphis.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

sounds like LA to me

wonder what we got for Amaury + Zombinoha. . . maybe Kershaw? Sounds fair to me.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

so how do we get rid of zombinoha?

he just keeps coming back (for brains?)

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Removing him from the 40-man was step one.

Stavinoha will take care of the rest by being Stavinoha.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer Edmotrin

I have heard good things about Craigmentin though.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Also,

reportedly Pham-cyclovir has looked promising at times in early testing

Stupid offseason.

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 17, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Adroxicillin might be ready soon.

That’s pretty much all I got.
Other than, it’s too bad Adam Lindamycin has such a bad year for my fantasy draft.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He is every spring.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm happy being the underdog to brewcrew and cincy

but 13th overall? really? this guy is really worried about tehriot and berk

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Theriot sucks.

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by tehzachatak on Feb 17, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

meh

I’d call him mediocre, or lukewarm

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

based on metrics

i have very, very low expectations.

VEB 2010 Fantasy Handegg Champion

by tehzachatak on Feb 17, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

post-2008

yeah, I’m not expecting much

"Dropping an anvil on his back thru roof of his house" - LaRussa
turn it up to '11

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 17, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i dunno
Pity the Cardinal pitchers used to Brendan Ryan’s defense at short and acceptable glovemen in right field. The drop-off to Ryan Theriot and lumpy Lance Berkman will be profound and unsettling.

Theriot might not be a horrible defensive short stop. He might even been slightly above average, but he certainly isn’t Brendan Ryan.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

and he no longer has to run against Yadi.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Lumpy?

That’s kind of a cheap shot.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought he was fitter now

maybe not Pablo Sandoval fitter but perhaps around Matt Stairs fitter.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

old data

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

lol, are we ripping Ryan and Ludwick's defense now?

this groundball-heavy staff may very well miss that. a surer bet than guessing at Albert’s contract.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel that the Rangers are ranked far too high.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I was surprised the GIants were that high

but then I realized most of it was due to Lincecum.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the World Series halo effect is in play, too.

Since each won their respective league, they are bound to be highly thought of in the preseason.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely over my head.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

guys, anyone know if 925 899 xxxx is a cell number or a landline (CA)

or is there no way to tell? thanks

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 17, 2011 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

google the number

there are several sites devoted to stupid phoners. or even phony phoners.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i know who the number belongs to

i just want to know if it’s a cell

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Feb 17, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

send a text to it.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

OT:

this is pretty funny.
http://tinyurl.com/6jz6gtq

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Feb 17, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

so you're saying it's Morpheus

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Some prefixes are designated for one or the other

Some handle both like 636-390 plus any landline number can be ported to a cell phone, so, you really need to just find out about that number specifically because the prefix isn’t necessarily a reliable source

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 17, 2011 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Busterrrr said, essentially, there won't be distractions because the P-D are a bunch of pansies.

plus Albert and Tony are gritty, etc. etc.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

car guys

BBTN is opening with player vehicles.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

if there's any shot at seeing the montage, now might be the time.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Kruk: Where's the clubbie there to help him?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

and, no montage.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

nice shots of him and Matty.

hangin’ out. blinding us with their noggins.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

ESPN reporting from Pujols camp

I gleaned two important things.
1) Pujols looked jacked out of his mind, like more than usual. And lean and in really good shape too
2) Pujols told reporters that a lot of the numbers being reported in the media were “way off.” Maybe that’s a little misdirection from him, but its more likely that it simply confirms what we already knew: all these reporters coming out with info from their “inside sources” were full of shit.

by mattyp on Feb 17, 2011 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

you need to see the entire clip

he literally laughs in their faces.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

well it was more of a joyful laugh

like the giant sitting in the field, picking up the tiny thatched roofs.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Aaron Miles???

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

oh wait, scissors....

Kyle Lohse??

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Albert taking BP.

He appears to be leaner in the lower body. Not a very good picture though.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 3:52 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

use the towel.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

here i got one from earlier...

it’s kinda sticky. smells like cabbage.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

that might be the wrong pile, dude.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That bin clearly says "USED"

As in “HAS BEEN used”, not “TO BE used”.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

it just occurred to me, i'm in terrible ST shape

I all-caps’d my “Hi Matthew Leach”
but then forgot “in the truck”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

no, not the worst.

thank goodness.

I may be tipping my pitches.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

i would be pulverized.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

"chronic tardiness"

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I lack a sinker

not a death wish.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

general request

can we get a run-down of which players and managers are where? it doesn’t seem like there was a lot of movement in the off-season, but for the first time in a long time, I’m losing track of where all these former franchise players are franchising now.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

Dave Duncan - Seattle

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

How's Big Z doin?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

OT

Good news I have a job interview tomorrow.

Bad news my dad is having quadruple bypass currently

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 3:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

good luck

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

best of luck

I have actually seen a bypass surgery up close and personal. It is amazing what we are able to do. Your father will be in for a long recovery. Best for everyone to remain as patient as possible in the coming weeks. Also, I said a little prayer for you and your family and the surgeons. /flagged religion

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks everyone

Surgery went well. Just waiting to get in to see him at this point

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 17, 2011 7:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

good news

but remember, recovery is going to take some time. Be patient and encourage your father to be patient too.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the advice

I’m pretty patient, my dad not so much. He’s pretty hard headed so this will be fun. He’s going to have a long recovery considering how little of his heart pumped blood compared to a normal one. The hope is a lot comes back and didn’t die from lack of blood. Time will tell

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 18, 2011 1:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

OK, I just watched the video clip in Leach's article where Albert talks to the reporters.

Damn you, Albert, stop charming the logic-pants off of me. Just give the man whatever he wants and make him stay. I give up trying to tell myself I’m OK with the possibility of him asking too much and us letting him go.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

i toldja

the aw-shucks is very persuasive.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah? Well read this!

Jayson Starks is a big wooden spoon

This won’t stop will it?

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Um...

“[…]if he thinks he’s been wronged by a Cardinals team that’s kicked away its final exclusive window to sign him, he’s keeping all that wrapped up in his inner safe, deep inside his serene outer shell.”
I thought the Cardinals could still exclusively negotiate with him right after the season ended?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not a free agent until 5 days after the WS.

Until said time, STL can exclusively negotiate with him.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

stop worrying about facts and shit...

ESPN also reported that Pujols wanted ownership, and the Cardinals refused, but also offered an equity share in the team, which was refused by Albert. Also that the Cardinals put out several offers, but only one several weeks ago.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's been put to good use.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Feb 17, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm mostly just getting from this article how much of a hack Stark is.

I don’t even mind Olney that much, because he just reports rumors, and it’s technically true that things are rumored, even if the content of the rumors is ridiculous. But this particular article is incredibly stupid.
Stark is basically saying: “Albert Pujols made it seem like he’s 99% sure he has never killed a baby… but not 100% sure.”
Also, the “Cardinals get hometown discounts from everyone” line is pure BS. The Holliday contract was fair, but not a discount. Kyle Lohse did not get a discount. Etc. etc. etc. It’s time for that canard to die.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It's crazy hoe much Albert looks like the rock

In the picture imbedded in Starks article….and guard the elbow mang!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Feb 17, 2011 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He's the most electrifying player in sports entertainment!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I do hope someone braver than I

would transcribe how he pronounces “rocket science”
within the same respectful ‘mang’ homage-verse.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked "Issazoo" even better

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

the "zoo" was very distinct.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Goold builds his melodrama cred by

reminding us how Pujolsian Albert is.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Bernie does his version of DanUp's article up yonder.

bytes

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 17, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a cautionary tale that Helton is on the list of 6 twice.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

i think it's unfair for goold to be comparing career averages

i know they are big names and big numbers, but albert hasn’t begun his decline. when he does, those numbers are going to go down

seems a little disingenuous to compare careers when it’s obviously apples and oranges

by YesWeOquendo on Feb 17, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

What he did is to take Pujols's career averages

and compare them to the greatest single seasons in baseball history. Only 6 times in the game’s history have Pujols’s averages been met. That is how great Pujols has been up to this point.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, so very off topic here.

Best version of Bridge over troubled water?

Cash (with Fiona Apple)

Willie Nelson

Elvis

Aretha Franklin

Glee

Or the original

Or other?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Original

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I would agree with you there

as far as Simon and Garfunkel go:

God tier:
Boxer
Sounds of Silence
Bridge over Trouble Water

Good tier:
Mrs Roberson
Homeward Bound
I am Rock

Shit tier:

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh Cecilia doesn't really do much for me

But I agree with your whole point

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I though My Little Town sucked

Otherwise, I don’t think Paul Simon ever wrote a bad song. Same can be said for Bob Marley.

by peppermartin on Feb 17, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

This ftw!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 17, 2011 8:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

and kick ass covers of the Boxer

is pretty much this one.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Cash's is pretty awesome

He/Rick Rubin did an awesome job of choosing songs for him to cover on those American Recordings albums, based on the characteristics of his voice and pacing.

The Elvis one, not so much, IMO.

by BTown Birds fan on Feb 17, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m flip flopping between the Simon & Garfunkel and Cash. Cash voice and that Guitar sound just does it for me.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Elvis

http://www.albertcountdown.com/

by avs18fan on Feb 17, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

no offense, but why is glee on that list?

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 18, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

my morbid curiosity

to see if anyone selected it. I’ve didn’t even make it past halfway through the first verse.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 18, 2011 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah i tried, but couldn't finish the song

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 19, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Just saw that Punto is wearing #8.

Sorry if this has already been reported.

What number weareth the Craigen?

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

40 man has Punto as blank, and Craig still as 8.

I don’t have an answer for you.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

It's 21.

I don’t know why I was too lazy to tell you.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 17, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

why does everyone keep sending me photo shopped pictures of pujols in yankees/cubs/sawx attire?

its just rude.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Feb 17, 2011 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

Received a Photoshopped Cubs jersey with Pujols and the #5 on it.

Responded with a picture of the Cardinals banner w/10 World Championships and the Cubs banner w/2 World Championships.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

You might also throw in a Lou Brock jersey.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 17, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Good call.

But I had limited time to respond and went straight for the rings.

by Ghostrider520 on Feb 17, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

$16m for a year

can buy you a lot of suits and cliches, dude. It might even buy you an agent who has a team hired by his company prep you for stuff like this.

And then, after that rep uses the resources of his employer, he can dump the employer in order to make more money off your new big contract.

by sdrone on Feb 17, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

fantastic article

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Feb 17, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

WHAT UP VEE EEE BEE?

Nothing? Alright, well i’m going then.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

7 out of 10

I picked the nationals too by reflex.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Feb 17, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

One thing I'm not looking forward to when Albert signs a new deal

All the crappy “clever” headlines

“Pujols signs “Albertross” deal" – heh, cuz you know liek it’s albatross and we just put albert in there to make it clever

“Pujols no longer seeing brown – sees green for 8 more years” – heh a poo-holes joke….Strauss gave us that one.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 17, 2011 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

really?

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
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by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

^ is the second comment in over 45 minutes

after amost 700 prior

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
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by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I know.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

weird man did SBN freak out?

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

There were some truly frightening people on the flight to Atlantic City.

I’m pretty happy I’m on the next flight to St. Louis.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 17, 2011 8:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Snooki want smush smush

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

FACT:

Atlantic City is where hope goes to die

by purple_haze on Feb 18, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

or ohio

A free pound of bacon with every test drive

by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah i think that's right

after more consideration, branson is more about retaing souls or childhoods (and i still say hope, but a lesser degree)

atlantic city? atlantic city is where innocence goes to die

(also steve buscemi’s career)

by YesWeOquendo on Feb 18, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

so sayeth ponce de haze.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

who doesn't wish they were in florida right now?

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Feb 18, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

holy crap

i got $1500 in grants for my summer classes. totally unexpected. this is awesome

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

God I want a disposable income

I applied to a full-time position at Goodwill today. Pride don’t pay the bills, yo

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

You're telling me, man

But I can’t hold out for a job that looks good on my resume any longer. Gotta start helping my fiancee with the bills… She’s been a champ for far too long

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on the type of resume you have

One focused on abilities or one on your work history. Also just because you work somewhere doesn’t mean it needs to go on your resume.

You could also start your own business like I did. Pretty easy to set a LLC.

by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 18, 2011 1:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dude drive a cab

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Do they hire asian cab drivers?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Can he fake a central asian accent?

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

In all honesty they will hire anyone with a clean driving record and no felonies

which rules out most of the american male population

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Not too lucrative here...

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

less lucrative than the goodwill?

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

True but there is a reason why some guys drive a cab for 20 years

it has to be more lucrative than a job that most people have to be sentenced too

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but not in a small town like springfield

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

or is it rolla

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Springfield

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

it may not be lucrative but it is the best networking tool

this side of linked in. You know how many execs and connected people I talked too in 14 months of driving a cab?

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a good point

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

seriously business travelers are the life blood of the

cab driving industry, plus where else are you going to get 20-30 minutes alone with an exec?

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

strip club

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Kidnap?

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

While they're in line to see my mom?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

well played.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

damnit Rui I intentionally excluded "I guess you could ask your mom how she does it"

off the end of the question, only have you breathe life back into the meme.

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

INCEPTION?

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Do they play scrabble in the back seat?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Yakov doesn't drive himself to Branson.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

WHAT A COUNTRY

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope something comes through for you soon.

"Our fans are the biggest key for us. That's how we get our energy." #15

by spfldbird on Feb 17, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Where were you?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, fun place

Haven’t been there since I was like 6, but I was at Disneyland pretty recently

Churros ftw

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a great Disneyland story.

About 3 years ago, my gal took her 2 boys to disneyland. I wasn’t able to go. Anyway, there going around having a good time, and eventually the two boys start fighting, and somehow during all this, the youngest (9) slipped away from the two of them.

She calls me in tears, doesn’t know what to do, at the securitry shack, needless to say, she was a mess. Security finds him 3 hours later, and gets them back together. She’s happy/sad/angry all at the same time, chews him out good, and finishes with, “I hope you learned your lesson.”

He replies, yes. She says well what was the lesson you learned?

“If your a single you get to go to the front of the line.”

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Schu + Theriot + Punto combined

12 HR

Over/under?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

under

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I still take the under at 10.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

THIS IS OUR POTENTIAL INFIELD AROUND PUJOLS

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

considering our starting 3rd baseman

I’d feel comfortable (not really) saying:

THIS IS OUR INFIELD AROUND PUJOLS

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I might still take the under at 8

In case anyone’s curious, they together have 49 career HR – with Skippy leading at 20, Theriot at 16, and Punto at 13 – in 22 collective years in MLB (admittedly that number’s somewhat misrepresentative since several of those years were part-time/platoon, but then that’s what they may be this year as well).

by BTown Birds fan on Feb 17, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Over

Because i’m dangerously optimistic

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Schu + Theriot + Punto+Yadi combined

17.5 HR
over/under

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
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by CodyG on Feb 17, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

4+2+2+7

under

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i guess adding 8 when it's yadi's career high wasn't the best

/also thanks mathbitc*rec’d

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 17, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

*mathbitch

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 17, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is this place so dead? Is everyone off commenting on the Iowa State Wrestling Forfeit

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know.

It was like someone flipped a switch at 5:00.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I was late to my shift.

i’ll start working on it right away.
until 10, that’s when i have some real world things to do.
/am i fired?

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
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by CodyG on Feb 17, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm here sort of

until i go back to bed.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

it's not even nine o'clock!

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

its 3am goddamnit

i was asleep til my drunken flatmates started knocking on my door at 1.30 to tell my how drunk they were.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah. but american hours

not meter hours

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

VERILY

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm under the new policy to ignore every comment that mentions albert + contract

sorry, I just don’t care enough to argue the same thing for 9 months.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 17, 2011 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

Word

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs

by mysterui on Feb 17, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I concur

Mostly because there’ll be people worrying after every HR how it affects his signability.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

or if he's hitting .280 after the first month.

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@CodeeG
By my calculations, CodyG accounts make up 93.4% of VEB.

by CodyG on Feb 17, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah.

shouldn’t be too much of a distraction…….

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

weenie

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Feb 18, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

ooooohhhhhh

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of fang are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Feb 17, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

BASEBALL

Baseball baseball baseball

I miss gdm
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by Aranathor on Feb 17, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I only got in about 30 min of BP time before they shut it down,

but it was like a glass of water to a man in the desert. So wonderful to see.

I ate lunch, then headed back. I noticed that I passed Port St. Lucie on the way down, so I detoured there on the way back to check out the Mets complex. It looks more like a mini-MLB stadium than Roger Dean. There were a handful of fans there waiting at the player’s gate as well.

Further on the way back I noticed a Stadium sign near Vero Beach. Oh yeah! Dodgertown. I knew that they had already moved to AZ, but I wanted to see what the old complex looked like. It was more of a campus, with separate buildings for the various offices. I took a couple of hasty pics before setting off again.

Ahh, it’s getting closer. Baseball!

Boog woulda.

by The Continental on Feb 17, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to Dodgertown when I was a kid.

It was pretty awesome in the 80s.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Just because I'm thinking.

I saw (over the course of three different spring training years), Dodgertown, wherever it was the Royals played (they had an amusement park, i’m pretty sure), Kissimmee (astros), someplace where the red sox were (not sure if it was their home park), the Twins (might have been in Kissimmee….had to talk to Gary Gaetti since he’s from my hometown and we went to the same highschool. He didn’t really pay me that much attention but my dad struck up a conversation with him and turns out he knew my Godfather pretty well), and St. Pete (for the Cards, they hadn’t moved to Jupiter yet).

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

We saw the Reds play in Vero Beach

when Pete Rose was the manager. Some dude in the stands yelled at Pete. He said, "Hey Pete! You’re in Florida!!! Get a haircut!!!!

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Feb 17, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The Royals were at Haines City

At Boardwalk and Baseball

I remember driving by it a couple of times. Even when open, it always had that look of being the old abandoned amusement park that Scooby-Doo would be investigating.

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by TBender on Feb 18, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

and the beer is cheaper

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Feb 18, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

dude, this is awesome

fanpost it so there can be some hope on the front page

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

So, VEB

This is one of my favorite oldies ever. Is it awesome, or totally awesome?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

That's a good one

Some of my faves:

link

link 2

link 3

link 4

link 5

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Ooh, ? and the Mysterians!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, Walk Don't Run is one of the most awesomest songs ever.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree!

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Another great instrumental

Cliff Nobles & Co. – The Horse

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

So groovy

Two more!

Vehicle

Memphis

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Young Holt Unlimited

Soulful Strut

Also, I like the Johnny Rivers version, but I’ve always preferred the Chuck Berry version, both of Memphis and Maybellene.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

And, oh, let's see...

How about The Grass Roots – Midnight Confession

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Box Tops

The Letter

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

So that's what that song is called!

So chill

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

lame

no j tull

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Feb 17, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, we can fix that

Link
and
Link
and
Link

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 18, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

telstar

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Feb 17, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahem

Linky

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 18, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

some poor sucker

just ran off the road about an eighth of a mile down the road and took out a pole, along with the electricity going the other direction down the road. Everyone’s ok, thankfully. My lungs are burning though, had to jog/sprint down to the accident, then back to the house for flashlights, then back to the accident. All of a sudden a boring evening is eventful.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

wouldn't it have been quicker to drive?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

in retrospect, probably

from here all you could see was one car off the road and another car on the shoulder with the flashers on. . . I didn’t expect power lines across the road and having to stop traffic in both directions. But, if we had driven, we would have been trapped by firetrucks and other rescue personnel. This way, I’m back on my couch and the professionals are handling it.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

nah, I wouldn't respond

because that stuff’s for physicians. Plus with the messed up direct access laws we have, I can’t provide direct care in those situations. In those situations I’m just an ordinary citizen with first aid/CPR training. If I represent myself as a Physical Therapist, much less a Doctor, I’m leaving myself wide open for a liability suit.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 18, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

wow. did not know that.

leave them to the lions, then.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Physicians are actually legally obligated to stop and make sure people are ok when they find them like that.

Actually, that might be true of med students too… can’t remember.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 18, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

legally or ethically?

once a doctor stops to give care, he’s held to a higher standard I’m sure (although there are some state laws out there protecting a “rescuer” type), but good samaritan laws requiring you to help a stranger are extremely rare in the US.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

those laws only protect you

if you represent yourself as just another individual with first aid/CPR training. If I’d step out and say, “don’t worry, I’m a physical therapist and you are going to be fine.” And then the dude falls over dead, I’m in trouble because his family has a great case for a suit.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 18, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

but I'm not sure how that relates to physicians

I think we have some around here, but I don’t think they are so open to sharing their real identities.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 18, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure it's a legal obligation.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 18, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm I would assume they have to inform people that they're a doctor.

My wife has had to do this a couple times, most recently when a guy on a moped totally wiped out in an intersection right in front of us. Once it was clear he was OK and some emergency medical people were on their way to check him out she was able to leave the scene, but she had to stop.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 18, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

it's insanity really

I’ve literally been playing in softball games with a team full of PT students and PT’s/instructors, had someone get injured on the other team and watched everyone kind of hide their eyes because everyone in the park knew who we were and legally we weren’t able to do anything. It’s all just a product of our society with people looking for any way to make an easy buck, especially through lawsuits. It just makes people afraid to do anything. I’m more willing to stick my neck out and help, but I’m not going to let the person know what I do. As far as they know, I’m just another schmuck on the street.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 18, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

The lawsuit aspect of it is so huge, and I'm not sure the populace at large really appreciates how disruptive it can be.

My mom is also a physician, so I have plenty of second hand info on it all. The amount doctors, for example, have to pay for malpractice insurance can be just stupid sometimes.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 18, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

howdy, if you've been following along via the tweet, you know i've had a bad couple of weeks

for those of you not, here’s a short reset. the new job was great, then three weeks ago they hired a short fatting used car manager who has tried to change everything. so now instead of working in a high class low pressure fun dealership, i’m working in a low class same as every other craphole dealership. and they wonder why sales have plummeted from the last couple months. this jerkass is ruining a once great place to work & buy a car. i’ve had three clients this past week leave angry at this douchebag. i told them all to call the GM & tell him, tell him how terrible he is, how he’s done nothing but ruin the dealerships good name & turned a fun place to work at into a living hell.

but wait, there’s more. they have been advertising in the local papers they need to hire 12+ new sales people. oh & they will pay them $4800 per month while the train them. WTF???? i’m not making that, hell i’m not even making half of that. all i get paid is a grand a month when there are no customers. none of the new guys they have hired over the past 5 months are making that either. right now we have 8 salesmen & not nearly enough customers, even on the weekends to keep us busy. so because of that, everyone but a couple guys are looking for new jobs. even the guy who hired me, the GSM is looking for a new job. it really is a nightmare, and it’s all because of one guy, one stupid ass POS guy.

on top of that, the family life is getting worse by the day. now adding to the all issues & crap i get from my mom & bro is my bro in law thinking about leaving my sis & two nephews. which if he does, i will kill that fat bastard. and i’m not even joking a little bit.

but i’m still going to bed alone every night, so i’ve got that going for me, which blows.

needless to say i’m way out of the loop with the Albert stuff, the general spring training news & all things VEB related, memes & stuff included. any cliff notes would be appreciated.

you know, i honestly don’t know what’s worse. being unemployed & miserable, or being employed & miserable. the only difference is now i’m making a grand a month. this just sucks. i had such high hopes of this working out & me being able to make more money than anywhere else, get out of this house, go to school then get a real job. but sadly it’s turned into none of those.

so now i start the job search all over again. yay

A free pound of bacon with every test drive

by gdm426 on Feb 17, 2011 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

so now i start the job search all over again. yay

and VEB is back to equilibrium

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by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

apply for a short order cook gig they are always in demand

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

and pay more than a grand a month.

I don’t know what they’re doing gdm, but our salesmaen are guaranteed at least minimum wage if they don’t sell anything, by law. Maybe it’s state law, I dunno, but it’s worth checking into.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Selling cars in february is a good way to starve, there are no customers

there is a reason the top sellers take their vacations this time of year

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

If you want to go to school, fill out the

Fafsa. It’s too late to help you this year, but it’s the first step in getting any grants, or financial aid in the college world. Fill it out now, and start knocking on schools doors jan 1.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Jan. 1?

For many schools you would still have time to get in for the fall semester. Maybe not the big ones, but CC’s smaller Uni’s, etc. Can’t fill out the FAFSA until you do your 2010 taxes anyway.

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 17, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It used to be, and it's been a while,

but to get aid in 200x, you had to have a Fafsa submitted by 200x-1.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It is not neccesarily to late this year fill it out and call some enrollment counselors

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It's been awhile since I've done it, point is,

fill the effing thing out.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Uhhh!! Yeah!!! how does that wrong taste RR????

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

cool and refreshing.

Like Dad’s rootbeer. Before bobo gets to it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

filling, filling, filling, filling

A free pound of bacon with every test drive

by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

that's life dude, it sucks, bites & blows, but you can't give up

you must never give up

A free pound of bacon with every test drive

by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

or let you down

or run around
and desert you
Or make you cry
or say goodbye

But seriously; good luck, place i used to work (albeit part time) got a new General Manager recently and apparently he’s a total dick always seems to be that way.

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 18, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

it's impossible to avoid this assclown too

my desk is right in front of the tower & he can see me. so all week i’ve stayed away from my desk & done an OK job of avoiding him. except of course when i have to talk to him about the deal.

it’s pretty shocking, everyone who has to deal with him hates him, from the lot guys all the way up to the other two managers. they hate his guts, yet the GM gave him all this f’ing power so we’re all miserable & looking to get the F out of there

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Dad's rootbeer?

Really bobo?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

Huh?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

ahem.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 17, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

How many times do I have to tell Fritz???

I drink Coke, not Pepsi! And I’ve never even tried Dad’s Rootbeer! Geez, some people will make up the craziest shit about you on the internet.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

what kind of people drink pepsi anyway?

pepsi is what you drink when the coke machine won’t take your dollar

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

and that's only if there's no barqs root beer

i will fight people who suggest dr pepper

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Bring it bitch

Dr. Pepper > all you bitches

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Feb 17, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

dr pepper

is what 13-year-olds and people in third world countries drink

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 17, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice

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by jd is legend on Feb 18, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I mix dr. pepper with other things. much nicer.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

ever had a Flaming Dr Pepper?

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, yes I have.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Why am I not surprised

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a hobbyist, afterall.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

The only people I know who refer to themselves as

hobbyists with any regularity are frequenters of swingers clubs

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

It's either hobbyist, or alcoholic.

I prefer hobbyist.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I kind of look at you as someone who has lost

their amateur status

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I just call myself a shopaholic

…who’s main purchase is alcohol. But hey, tortured rationalization has gotten me this far in life!

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to ramble through Total Beverage

on a once a month spending binge that looked like Nick Cage’s character in Leaving Las Vegas, ah to be single and responsibility free

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

i have

i had several one night. the thought of one now makes me a little sick

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 18, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Novelty drinks should be limited to one a night

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

or until the bottle of 151 runs out.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Prarie Fire!!!!

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Says the guy living in the land of Dr Pepper.

You can leave Texas tonight for your heresy.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
Twitter

by TBender on Feb 18, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Trust me, I'm a Doctor

nothing beats a Dr. Pepper. Nothing.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 17, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

afreakingmen

A free pound of bacon with every test drive

by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

what like I am supposed to believe this is anything other than a case of

one Doctor covering for another? Come to think of it my wife is a Doctor and she only drinks Dr Pepper, might freaking convenient if you ask me.

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

its a conspiracy

we are also involved in holding up the pujols negotiations. . . and the NFL labor agreement

I’ve said too much. Someone’s at the door.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 18, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

If he's holding a pink beer, you owe me and matty $25.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Do you also keep the Martians under wraps?

And keep Atlantis off the maps?

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 18, 2011 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't normally do this, but

wat

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 17, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

likem stix?????

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

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Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

here we go again.

didn’t you learn your lesson last time, man?

/pre-emptive gibby45 moment

EH #2
FIRE JOHN MOZELIAK.

by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 18, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I know.

And while we’re over-explaining ourselves, I was joking too, fang.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

You see, I was implying that you always go straight for penis.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

nah.

though that’s probably better than my current strategy.

by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 18, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought most of your nights ended that way?

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

again, you're thinking of Aranathor

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

No with Ara there are other people in the room

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by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

oh right, my mistake

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

you know I made it 20 or so months without the subject

of autoerotica being broached, now with VEP comparing it to Spants unmentionables tweet it has been been twice this week.

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by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

That was mysterui who brought that up.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

boy

leave for 20 some hours and VEB turns strange

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 18, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

People shouldn't cross streams.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Back to the penis so soon Spants?

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by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

It was a callback to my response to mysterui the other day.

And a Ghostbusters reference, but sure, let’s talk about penis.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I was there but you can't tell any boy

about crossing the streams without the inevitable occurring.

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

i've always found that

boobs are a much more enjoyable subject

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

for posterity
I’m going straight to the penis this time

- Fang

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

when I was in my early 20's my friend Joe created a quote book

where he wrote down every out of context quote he heard. Yours would have been recorded as “I’m going straight for the penis this time, Fang. MattyP 2-17-2011”

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm rec'ing this.

Not the original. I don’t want fang to think he’s worthy of a direct rec.

My sources are bigger than your sources.
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by TBender on Feb 18, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I like how your culinary choices as expressed on VEB are:

1) Fun Dip
2) Lunchables

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Feb 18, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone have any experience with cats who get jealous/territorial during their human's pregnancy?

And they do things like trying to wake you up for attention every single night? Or pee on the couch?

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by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:35 AM EST reply actions  

I thought cats, generally, did that.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Not ours.

Suddenly, Josh’s cats both cry outside the bedroom door for attention nightly. They have only infrequently done this through the years, and pretty much never since we’ve lived here.

And I found three pee spots on my couch today. Cats only pee 1-2x a day, and all the spots were dry, so they had to have all happened around the same time frame. That means at least 2 of the 4, and possibly 3 of the 4, peed on my couch. Oh, and all the spots were where I’ve been sitting the most recently. Fuckin cats.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I suggest a gun

or perhaps a claw hammer for more enjoyment.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 18, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't want to kill the innocent one!

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

there are no innocents when it comes to those crafty bastards.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the sweet one is innocent.

And she’ll be good with the baby. I illustrated this point to Josh tonight by poking her in the eye a half dozen times. She kept purring.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

you have to use pliers on them before you are sure!

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I then picked her up roughly,

rocked her like a baby, and pulled on her ear and tail. Again, she kept purring. She also throws herself down and gives belly like a dog whenever I come near her. I think she’s a keeper.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

my 18mo boy constantly attacks/is attacked by our cat

I really don’t know why I don’t fix this issue

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by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it funny?

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

did someone say funny baby!?!

this had me cracking up today, but I’m weird like that

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I wanted more bar trashing.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Well it was his first lie

at 12mo he would randomly come up holding out his hand saying “Coco Bite” just to get the sympathy kisses.

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by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

awww...

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 18, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

That cat of my lady's,

hunts the dog. PSYCHO doesn’t begin to describe that cat.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

interrogate them, find the culprit(s)

and execute them mercilessly in front of the others. If any remain, they will know better than to mess with you.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 18, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Be careful though

don;t let the other cats realise what your doing cause they might form some kind of Catty Resistance

I miss gdm
I am the anti-fang

by Aranathor on Feb 18, 2011 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

WOW!

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 18, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

cats are really f'ing evil

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They're just scared they won't matter to us anymore.

And, to a large degree, they are correct.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I know.

And they will turn their urinary proclivities to the baby’s stuff, I fear.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

give them to a nice DINK family in the burbs

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by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

get yourself an 8 week old lab.

Cutest thing you’ve ever seen.

Every piece of furniture destroyed within 5 weeks. Guaranteed.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes they can.

And another thing you’ll want to watch for is to make sure the little bastards don’t get in the crib with the baby. I love cats but they can be very jealous when it comes to babies taking their spot. Tracy doesn’t believe me that I’m going to make a lid for the crib to keep them out of ours. We’ve got two and have had similar issues.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 18, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

The baby's room will have a closed door at all times.

We stopped letting the cats go in there over a month ago. If they can’t get access to the baby’s stuff, I think they’re just going to keep destroying the things they have access to. Like the couch. It’s disgusting.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Good idea.

Funny thing is that our female dogs have gotten really protective of her. I would really pity somebody that tried anything on her at home right now. We have three females and I’m pretty sure they would destroy anybody that came near.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 18, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Albert dresses & drives the truck of a douche bag

i am disappoint

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 12:36 AM EST reply actions  

Well at least he doesn't drive Brandon Phillips's Barbie car.

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by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

yes.

What else do you do with 100 milliom.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd drink better liquor

other than that and travel, I really can’t think of much else.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, start huge foundations to help disabled people and travel to piss poor parts of the world so the children can have access to doctors and stuff?

But no athletes bother with that, it’s all cars and t-shirts.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 18, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

well i saw some rollers wearing the douchey shirts tonight

so i don’t know if this proves or disproves my theory

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 18, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't know what rollers are

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

have you watched it yet?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

what the hell is he talking about, Willis?

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 18, 2011 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

You're out of your element, matty.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that's what I was talking about

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Feb 18, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

too soon

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

you do realise that as a married man it is unlikely he dresses himself?

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by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

so DD's the douche?

i don’t think i should levy such accusations

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

well she lets him keep the shirts around

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by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

what

Sometimes I'm naked and thank god, sometimes you're naked. Well, hellooooo...
twatter

by prophetjohn on Feb 18, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

He is Dee Dee's Ken doll.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

precisely

having been married 5 years now the only things I buy are jeans, undershirts, and shoes the rest of my wardrobe is purchased at such unbelievably low sale prices that they just couldn’t be passed up by my lovely spouse.

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Josh would buy himself mock turtlenecks before we started dating.

They do not look good on him (or most people), at all. His judgment cannot be trusted.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I won't lie I look much nicer when I trust her judgement

besides I figure since she is the only one who’s I give a crap about she might as well dress me the way she likes

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

We're like giant fucking Ken dolls.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

only with penises right?

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I miss the 90's,

Vanns, tshirts and flanel. Good for ten years.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

i can dress myself, jeans, shorts & t shirts are all i wear

unless i’m at work, then it’s office attire

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

shorts?

What are you, a child?

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by Alxfritz on Feb 18, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I still dress myself.

Of course, I probably have as good or better taste than my wife..lol It’s hereditary, my father was always a pretty snazzy dresser.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 18, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

OK, VEB photogs.

Here’s some hockey pics we shot. Canon EOS 7D on auto for all of these. Light sucks in pretty much every ice house in the state, so I did do some light and red eye touch ups on some.. Tips, criticism, etc.

Link.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:41 AM EST reply actions  

What kind of metering are you using?

The white balance seems off on most the shots, and they’re also underexposed. But the action is good.

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by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I honestly don't know what this means.

We’re learning. I have two state tourney’s coming up, and would like to get better. How do I fix it? The camera is pretty high end, so I assume it can do almost anything.

I can’t wait to get some landscape shots this spring.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Have you read the manual?

Because I would start there. Especially if they have a quick guide.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

It basically says put it on auto,

and play with it. I’m going to see what it says about your suggestions though.

  1. in that album is what a lot of them looked like, and I used the editor to brighten them.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

6 & 13, not weird SBN format 1.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you have a Program setting?

Because that’s basically Auto with a few other controllable options.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, I'm sure it does.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

thought it said hot dogs

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by prophetjohn on Feb 18, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

learn to not use auto

with crappy lighting, you’re probably going to open the aperture up to full, and up the iso to dangerous levels. spants is right, the white balance is way off, which is weird, because the autowhite on a 7D should be pretty decent

practice a bunch, you’ll get the hang of it

and get off of auto, the sooner the better

by YesWeOquendo on Feb 18, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

with what we're shooting,

do you have a suggestion of where I should be?

This photo is accompanied with this info:
1/60s
focal length 260mm f5.6
35mm eq. 407mm iso:400

Where should I adjust from here, I guess is what I’m asking.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

....

link

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

You can totally do a higher ISO with that camera and not suffer grainy-ness.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

so trhe auto is setting that way low.

Looks like I can go to 6400. When will I start to get grainy do you think?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

You need to play with it.

You need to take the same shot at different settings and see what works.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

but they move so fast!!!!!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

One thing about them being indoors is that the lighting is constant.

Less challenging that way, even if it is low light. Start by shooting inanimate objects (like the inactive goalie or the boards or something) in that lighting. Then move to the players. If they’re blurry, no good. If they’re sharp, good.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

No one can just tell you what to shoot.

What you’re showing us has been edited and is clearly not an accurate representation of the lighting. So, you’re just going to have to practice and play around.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

yep

1600 should be no different than 400. maybe even 3200, kind of depends (i’ve never used a 7D)

beginner pointers!
-shooting sports, you’re going to want faster exposures, so you don’t get blurry motion stuff like this
-shooting longer telephoto stuff, you’re going to want faster exposures, so you don’t get blurry camera shake, like this
-shooting any distance really, a flash isn’t going to help you at all. even the best head mounted flash has pretty crappy range, and won’t give you any aditional light, like this (and it’s annoying, seriously people in the stands at baseball games, you’re crappy little flash on your cheap little point and shoot isn’t going to make it from the upperdeck to the battersbox, and then back up to your camera)

by YesWeOquendo on Feb 18, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

These are good pointers, for sure.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Feb 18, 2011 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya, I tried to turn off the flash,

but didn’t have the manual at the rink. Pretty much a dumbass.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you for this.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm willing to trade photography lessons for beer

and shooting food is fun, so feel free to send me anything tasty

also by “faster” exposures, i mean shorter shutter speeds.

try to more photo friendly conditions, for real. it seems you and your wife decided to jump into the worst possible situation. indoor, fast, shitty lighting. you know what my professional hockey photog buddies do? they show up 3-4 hours before the game, install about $50k worth of remote controlled strobe flashes in the ceiling at an already well lit major arena, with reflective paint under the ice. they have more sensitive lenses and cameras than you do. and they still have exposure problems. all. the. time.

seriously, other than night stuff, hockey is the worst

by YesWeOquendo on Feb 18, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I absolutely agree,

and we’re really just using this as a learning curve. I want to do a lot of outdoor stuff this year. Lot’s of scenery out here.

My favorite beer out here is not available in bottles, but I may be willing to bottle some of it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

FFS, CJ had a twitterin fit.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 12:46 AM EST reply actions  

i'm in lust with the 22yr old who cuts my hair

we get along great, she’s very cute, great body & a lot of fun to talk to. of course she’s been living with a guy for four years.

she was complaining today about how lazy & unreliable he is to do the simple things around the house. like getting food other than junk food at the grocery, or doing the dishes, laundry or cleaning up after the pets. all the women in the place were agreeing the men in their lives were the same way. it & the stuff above about women dressing men got me thinking i’m so not like that. i hate having people do that stuff for me. especially the shopping, cleaning & dressing. are men really that incapable of taking care of themselves? do most of their mom’s baby them that much so that they can’t do anything for themselves? and why do women put up with that crap? it blows my f’ing mind. i guess i need to be a lazy douchebag if i ever want to not be single. i’m way too good & responsible & not lazy at all to be any good to a woman.

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 1:36 AM EST reply actions  

our conversation above has nothing to do with being lazy.

My gal wants to buy me clothes, I will wear them. If I bought all my clothes, it would only be t shirts and Cards jerseys.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2011 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

right, but some guys just refuse to look nice unless their gal buys them clothes

i didn’t say anyone here was like that.

i just don’t get how guys can let women do so much around the house. i always thought it was good that my folks taught me early on to take care of myself & not depend on anyone. apparently i am dead wrong

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

you don't think i did?

to her i’m just an old dude who pays her $30bucks every 4 months for a hair cut. she works right across the street from me & i told her we should get lunch or grab dinner sometime after work. she laughed. they always laugh when i say that

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

damn that sucks, kind of an awful thing to do to someone

kind of puts you in a fork in the road too. what do you do? tip her more, try to get somewhere? or tip her less, because she’s laughs in your face?

by YesWeOquendo on Feb 18, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

not that laugh like she's insulted or anything

just the laugh that she finds it funny i’d think i’d have a shot with her. i’ve gotten it my entire life from all but a few women. it sucks, but i’m used to it

and no, i’m not tipping her any more. she’s not that hot

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

it means they don't want to say no, because no is mean and will cost them a customer

they probably wouldn’t say yes if they were interested but the would let you know. I say there is nothing wrong with asking girls to grab a coffee sometime, but then again I used to just play dumb until I was absolutely sure where I stood.

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by TomCat009 on Feb 18, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm not that big of a ahole to stop getting my hair cut by her if that was to happen

i won’t stop going unless i move

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by gdm426 on Feb 19, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Right but realise the difference between the motivations of women

vs men, no matter how much people try to ignore the differences they tend to value different things. This girl may like you as a person but is not romantically interested, she doesn’t want to say that because that would hurt you so she redirects the conversation.

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by TomCat009 on Feb 22, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Rule to live by: Don't bother with them under 25, they're still too squirrelly.

 Especially if you’re older. This isn’t always the case, but I’ve found it to be true more often than not. I virtually never dated women under 25 even when I was. I didn’t even come close to understanding them, but the older ones i got along fine with.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 18, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Before the VEB girls take my head off,

let me re-iterate: This isn’t always the case, and the majority of guys under 25 still don’t have their heads out of their asses either.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 18, 2011 3:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you for the most part.

Except Josh was 23 and I was 22 when we got together, and we were serious from the get-go. But we’d also both had a lot of experience and knew what we wanted and didn’t play games.. I would say that made us unusual for that age.

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by spants on Feb 18, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Likewise

we were both 20 when we married. We should have waited but for financial reasons, not any other. But I was always boring, never took part in the typical wild/dumb/head-up-ass activities most late-teen/early-20’s guys seem to.

I sympathize w/ gdm in a lot of ways. Way to many young women seem attracted to jerks and for the life of me I can’t figure out why.

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 18, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

You mean I'm going to be known as "40" from now on?

That sux, I really liked my name.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 18, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Well its always gonna be tough if your the older guy

and girls love bitching about their men (i’m sure you know that as well as i do), but still don’t take it too seriously. Love / lust makes everybody retard their senses.

I miss gdm
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by Aranathor on Feb 18, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

i had a girl tell me today i just don't have the right chemistry women are looking for in a guy

HFS i’ve never been good with the sciences & math, but now that i know they are keeping me single, i really hate those fucking bastards

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by gdm426 on Feb 18, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

this thread has a sum-up in progress

here

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2011 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

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