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the angels wanna pay my pujols


well, i used to be disgusted

but now i try to be amused

since his hamstring got busted

you know the angels wanna pay my pujols

but when he told me about their side of the bargain

that's when i knew that he could not refuse

and i don't care if he's older

now the angels wanna pay my pujols

oh-oh, i was watchin' you a-bargainin' away

my heart got broken in the snappin' and the play

how come everybody wants to pay you so much cash

plus lozano strikes me as an ass . . .

oh, i know that he's disgusted (oh why's that)

because he's feeling underpaid (oh that's too bad)

he gets tired of fuss (oh i'm so sad)

but still makes less than holliday

how can you say that he's too old

now the angels gonna pay my pujols

i said, "i can't take it, here's two-twenty-five"

he said "drop dead" and left with some other guy

that's what you get when you chase a hall of famer

guess i'll see who hasn't made it yet through waivers

oh, i used to be disgusted

but now i try to be amused

since his hamstring got busted

you know the angels wanna pay my pujols

but when he told me about their side of the bargain

that's when i knew that he could not refuse

and i don't care if he's older

now the angels wanna pay my pujols

pujols! the angels wanna pay my pujols!

pujols! the angels wanna pay my pujols!

pujols! the angels wanna pay my pujols!

Elvis Costello - Red Shoes (Live TOTP 1977) (via korkhammaregon)


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not quite ready for nostalgia just yet

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

this brought tears to my eyes.

thanks a lot.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

um...yeah.

i don’t think i’m quite ready for this yet.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i can't close this thread anymore or i will have to keep seeing this picture and cry

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, I guess it's time to sign Bobby Bonilla again...

…and fall bass ackwards into another ten years with the next greatest ballplayer of a generation.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Dec 8, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

oooooohhh we're half way there. ohhhh living on a prayer

Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 8, 2011 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

i'm going to break my diet and get drunk tonight

albert pujols owns me some new clothes.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

i can't decide whether i think this is the proper response.

i mean, it is thirsty thursday.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i'll probably feel better by the time i get home in 5 hours

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

that's a loooong time away.

i’ll be drunk by then.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

well since i did no work for the first three hours of the day, that's what i get

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Kickyfoot?!

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Blues will be playing if you prefer hockey

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by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I was already planning on getting drunk tonight.

Last Thursday Night!

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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I have to think it would be amusing to witness.

"You've got to have poise. You've got to walk away. You're a long snapper!"
B. Kelly

by lordsummer on Dec 8, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I was on my way but then my friend got really drunk and I sobered up fast.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 9, 2011 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Story of my college life.

Carried my friend like a quarter mile once.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

REC'D

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

I think they should give #5 to Holliday

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 5:13 PM EST reply actions   5 recs

let's be serious guys.
  1. is getting retired. like it should.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, I like the idea of #1 being retired

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

not until he goes into the HOF

club policy

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah but

Holliday will be right behind him. So he needs his own number

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Dec 8, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

So, did this policy get put in place after they retired Boyer’s #14? ‘Cause, last time I looked, he still wasn’t in.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 8, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

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by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Cardinals sign Skip Schumaker who reports that he will take #5.

I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.

by Hootie Who on Dec 8, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

use a subject line dammit

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

i got you

­#5 is getting retired. like it should.

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

that leaves 3, 4, 7, and 8 unretired in the single digits.

with yadi and holliday locking down 4 and 7 currently, that leaves 3 and 8. I vote we stop letting guys like Theriot and Punto wear them..keep them in bubble wrap until Taveras goes nuts in September 2013

by all4tookie on Dec 8, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

it's up to the hall, not pujols.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm really doubting he doubles his counting numbers, MVPs, WS wins, etc's during the next decade

But latency effect could impact decisions, especially after a decade if he does 80% of mangness

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

If he breaks the HR record as an angel

it could happen.

"With the miraculous escape of the entire St. louis baseball team still fresh in our memories we may well ask, is there such a thing as luck? What is luck? ... It is a mystery we may never know. However, this we do know... -F. C. Lane, 1911
WOOOOOO! -VEB, 2011.

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

needs 340ish HRs, correct

that’s 34 a year for 10 years.

What kind of decline in power can we expect with a normal aging curve?

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Or if the Angels go on a streak where they win

3 WS in 4 years or something.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Dec 9, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

i wonder if he'd want it now

i think he might have gotten used to 7
plus all the merch that’s already out there..

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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Somebody is looking for a firstbasemen on Craigslist...

linky

"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig

by pattimagee on Dec 8, 2011 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

I dont think MJ’s son is old enough to even play baseball

and the other guy would probably prefer the Rockies uniforms anyway

by jealousblues on Dec 8, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I am totally printing that and posting it at work.

"With the miraculous escape of the entire St. louis baseball team still fresh in our memories we may well ask, is there such a thing as luck? What is luck? ... It is a mystery we may never know. However, this we do know... -F. C. Lane, 1911
WOOOOOO! -VEB, 2011.

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

where is cgirl

you can’t post chain letters on facebook!

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

Elvis Costello

Got old and sucked…we will have to see if the comparison holds.

Could we do a roster matrix in the next couple days. For as bad as I feel, Mo kinda built this team to withstand this.

We need a SS; a platoon partener for Jay; a platoon partener for Descalso and some thump off the bench. SS is hard but the rest are doable.

by BigJawnMize on Dec 8, 2011 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

eh

His early stuff was awesome. He did marry that Diane Kruger hottie, so he has that going for him.

I always think the band Girls pull off the best Elvis Costello sound if Elvis was still cool.

by BigJawnMize on Dec 8, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

nobody makes it through such a long career without laying some eggs.

but lots of people never make anything worth listening to after 40.

i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus

by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeff Beck?

but he’s not exactly that popular…

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by pattimagee on Dec 8, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

"Togther Through Life"

Excellent album. Bob’s still got it, to be sure.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Dec 8, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Dylan

is horrendous. I trust no one who thinks Dylan makes good music. I wouldn’t even let him marry my daughter.

by Forsch's2nohitters on Dec 8, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Dylan is the only concert I've ever walked out of

because I couldn’t stand the music. And that was in 1998. Can’t imagine he’s improved since then.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

He has no business still singing

stuff like "The Times they are a-changin’ ". His voice has fundamentally changed.

His new music is way more adapted to his voice. But I don’t think anyone would call him a performer more than a songwriter.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Dec 9, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

ha, i heard some of this a few weeks ago

absolutely horrendous

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Sonic Youth

their lows weren’t nearly as low as most super old bands.

by molina mo problems on Dec 8, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Stephen Malkmus is hanging in there pretty well too

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Dec 8, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

malkmus is 12 years younger and keenan is 10 years younger.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Malkmus is the bees knees

I’m confused as to why Mirror Traffic isn’t getting more end of year accolades.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 8, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, he's even gotten better in some areas

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

i'll give you that. also, tom waits.

still, i think costello has done pretty well.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Elvis C.

One of the best shows I saw last year was Elvis at the Pageant. The guy knows how to put on one helluva show. With go-go dancers.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Dec 8, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It is like any artistic endeavor...

…your going to have hits and misses. Elvis is just so disappointing to me because I love the late 70s early 80s albums. He started venturing into different genres and never was able to really capture his sound again. Like I said there are some indie bands and albums that kinda pull it off.

I can think of a couple more rock musicians that I think left there iconic first bands to produce solid music.

Clapton
Lennon / McCarthy

by BigJawnMize on Dec 8, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta give props...

…Kinder Murder is an excellent song.

by BigJawnMize on Dec 8, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Tom Waits was even more interesting in his 50s as he was in his 20s

but I still loving Closing Time and Blue Valentine

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Saw Elvis and Dylan about three years ago

EC played solo guitar for about an hour—awesome

Dylan—whoa! I love Bob, but he has nearly incomprehensible.

by gocards62 on Dec 8, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

he sort of lost the ability to sing coherently live in the late 80s

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Everyone atrophies

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

You almost made me spit my beer onto my keyboard

DIane Kruger is an uber-hottie actress. I went with trembling fingers to Wikipedia. Elvis married Diana Krall, the way less uber-hot and also older version of, well, not Diane Kruger.

by Fred Head on Dec 8, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Diana Krall, maybe?

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 8, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I wanna do some laughin' too

You only did it so that you could wear terry underwear and feel the city air run past your body

by lunchboxbomb on Dec 9, 2011 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Saw Peter Murphy last night, with SWR

He’s aged pretty well. Granted he’s only 54.

Believe it or not, Geddy Lee is now 58, and is going strong.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and Leonard Cohen was 57 in 1991

And he was frigging AMAZING last year, in LA. Maybe 2 years ago.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm surpised about Geddy Lee

You’d think his voice would be shot from screaming at the range, a la Robert Plant.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

@cwyers
Fans just can’t get over the idea that athletes aren’t as loyal as fans are to their teams, they’re as loyal as fans are to their jobs.

I wonder if this would hold true though if fans’ employers had an approximation of the following and public dependency on employees that athletes’ employers do.

by all4tookie on Dec 8, 2011 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

It's definitely not an good analogy

Office workers don’t have fans.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Does not paint a flattering picture of Pujols

I lost count of the number of times he said “i want to finish my career here”

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 8, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

or the "why would i want to play anywhere else"

“there’s no city like stl to play baseball”
“why would i leave, this city has blessed me and my family, the fans have taken us in?”

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 8, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

these are the quotes that bother me the most

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The first two lines are fluff

The third line any baseball player could say about any city where they play.

by mojowo11 on Dec 8, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to finish my career here*

*after im old and washed up at age 43 or so
you guys think you can hold a spot for me?

(maybe ill get hurt and retire before spring training that year)

by jealousblues on Dec 8, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The part with the Bernie shrugs is hilarious.

As sad as the whole thing is, the video makes me want to laugh like half the time with the funny Pujols jerseys.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 8, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

This one hurts....

I know ten years was a really bad deal for the organization, and I know that this is a business and that this is the type of money people like me have trouble wrapping their heads around; however, this hurts the most because I bought the hype. I bought the whole ‘i wanna be a cardinal for life’ routine, the ‘winning rings is more important than the money’ posits, and generally thought he’d be to us what Stan was to my grandparents… Stupid, emotional, and unrealistic is the only way to explain it I guess.

I always thought if he walked I would be mad at Mo and Dewitt… instead I’m angry at Albert (for not turning away the type of money I can’t even dream about and probably wouldn’t turn down myself), and angry at myself because I let myself believe that he would magically stick around in a Cardinal uniform despite more lucrative offers lurking in the free agent waters. Part of me knows that this is better for the team than a ten year deal. The other part is the 8 year old kid that cried like an infant when Jack Clark was traded away…. and that part says I wanted Albert on the wall in left, with a statue like Stan’s, where I could someday take my kids and tell the stories like my dad and grandad did with me, and that part of me says that this whole thing sucks.

Thankful for an offseason, I am glad pitchers and catchers don’t report tomorrow…. hopefully by then I’ll be numb to this whole mess.

by fuegophil on Dec 8, 2011 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

yea, but if that had been true

he would have re-upped earlier

i think there were lots of things going on
he felt he’d never be the man in stl
lozano kept whispering on his ear that he was the best and deserved the most
tlr left, so not clear what would happen
he felt bdw was taking advantage of him

never felt i’d say it, but it makes the reyes-marlins deal look like a winner for the fish

TLR is gone, long live the king

by sportsman on Dec 8, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

LOLOLOLOLOL IS HE SERIOUS

@Jon_Heyman: the #cardinals are likely to nontender ryan theriot. Versatile player with good stick. May interest mets atl cin hou tor kc etc

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 5:26 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Will anyone still be concerned about losing Luhnow if he signs Theriot?

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by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

well... they have a nice second baseman

so he’d be their SS most likely, so no I wouldn’t be concerned.

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

do not i repeat NOT show them the riot video until after they sign him

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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

well... they have a nice second baseman

so he’d be their SS most likely, so no I wouldn’t be concerned.

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

well... they have a nice second baseman

so he’d be their SS most likely, so no I wouldn’t be concerned.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

that sounds like a pretty good gag

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

please let cincinnati sign him

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Emotionally, I was ready for this

Wait… Wait. I’m not sure. Can we sign Yu Darvish now?

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by purple_haze on Dec 8, 2011 5:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Okay, I'm all better now. The ESPN experts have weighed in

and really put things in perspective. On Around the Horn, for example, the nerdy black guy said the management botched this by spending too much on the Halladay contract. Hard to disagree.

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by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

re:flyover country

they stopped caring about the cardinals the second the world series was over

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah but look what that did for our rotation

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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but he sure shored up the rotation

(also Pujols wanted us to bring in someone to “show commitment to wining” or something amirite?)

by jealousblues on Dec 8, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

they probably could have got Doc for Walrus and Colby :(

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

What did DeWitt say the payroll would be?

I’ve got $90 million for 2012 if we don’t sign anyone else.

Sign Roy O

by guayzimi on Dec 8, 2011 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

Mo's sitting on those crayons, feeling good

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with whoever who said that

If we sign Beltran and Fielder, we come out ahead.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Dec 9, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont know but this is what worries me

if the options were pujols gets the money or dewallet gets the money then… yeah

by Wombat x on Dec 8, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah, i just thought of this in the bathroom....

the developments of the past several days point to a likely skip signing, imo

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

Lots of 4th outfielder ABs

by OCCardsFan on Dec 8, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope you flushed that thought.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 8, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

One-year-wick?

Did we already discuss this?

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

No, not that one

I’m talking about the one who OPS’d .827 when he last darkened our doorstep

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

heh.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

no

I’d rather just give Chambers, Jay, and Pham ABs.

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Free ABs

Opportunity to see how they perform.

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Free ABs

Opportunity to see how they perform.

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

New SBN feature

Post count padding.

Thanks dan!

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by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Trying to break comment records today

It is what it is

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

was there one?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

damn it man

i decide to do some work and this happens
oh well

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

254? Enjoy LA big guy

I’m a little stunned for many of the reasons everyone above me mentioned, but this is not bad for the Cards.

Still, I have to divorce myself from the pride I had of his numbers. That’ll take time.

If he goes to the hall as an Angel… shitty puuke

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Dec 8, 2011 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

yeah,

Cards should be ok
Albert should be ok (I mean is he EXTRA rich now)
Angels…might be ok for a while at least

not the end of the world.

by jealousblues on Dec 8, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Not that I remember.

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by pattimagee on Dec 8, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont think so.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Has everybody else had to fend off the idiots today?

I’ve had to bitchslap several people on FB for saying stupid shit.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

Mistake #1

Getting into an argument on Facebook.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't argue with them.

I just powder them with more info than they ever needed and walk off.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Mistake #0

Getting Facebook.

#HappySeason

by The Continental on Dec 8, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I like it.

It helps me keep up with family and friends that I never see otherwise.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

This

#newtwitter sucks, but it’s still a billion times better than Facebook. Like Stan Musial to Albert Pujols.

Yeah, I’m pretty bitter.

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by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I enjoy it.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

But come on, how much time do you waste on it?

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Not nearly as much as on VEB!

Seriously, not that much. Look at the frequency of my posts.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah don't post much either

but I’ve spent way too much time browsing stupid status and pictures off the newsfeed.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah, I don't do that.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

you and your fancy college education

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry,

I can’t hear you with all of this college graduate money filling up the room and deadening sounds.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm sorry, you misspelled "student loan bills."

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

REC

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, crapping on Pujols is really original

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

"some fish pictures"

you sly bastard.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh. I knew it was a meme before it was a meme.

I’ve come a long ways in the last year here.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i've had to argue with people saying the cards were being cheap

and the idiots who said because we underpaid him he deserves the money now.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 8, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

basically the same.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

does it really matter how others think about it?

hes just some ballplayer, its not like they were talking about your mother.

If someone talked shit about you, would Albert care?
(of course not)

by jealousblues on Dec 8, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

an Illinois Yankee fan that I know said on FB
Looks like pujols is no Jeter!!! lol it takes a great ball player to stick with the team they started with. Go Yankees!!!

yeah…thats besides all of the idiot cub fans on my friends list

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

And that's why A-Rod will never be a True Yankee

He didn’t have the smarts to be drafted by them.

by mojowo11 on Dec 8, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Try being a Cards fan in LA.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Every status

“woooo, the Angels got Pujols swaggg”

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

at least you have the beach & warm weather year around

but it’s going to suck for you for a while, you might want to consider moving

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

actually, it's overcast, and chilly year-round

at least in the beach cities. You have to go inland to smogland to get the warm sunny days in November.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 3:17 AM EST up reply actions  

eh, it was sunny all day today in santa monica

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 3:24 AM EST up reply actions  

60 in CA feels like 40 in MO

Folks in redondo today were in sock caps, and everyone in my office has a space heater, because the stupid CA philosophy of “we don’t need a/c or central heat” is clearly false.

I’m actually looking forward to moving to Colorado next summer, since at least they are honest about Winter.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 3:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it got over 40 in Central IL today.

and its 32 with flurries right now.

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 3:35 AM EST up reply actions  

balls

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 3:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I will be trying it when I go home for Christmas.

Not looking forward to it at all, if fb is any indication.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it ok to be a little angry at albert?

Cause I am. I wish him the best of luck, but I feel a little misled.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 5:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Sure, if it makes you feel better

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think its natural.

Im a little mad at him as well. I think he lied and I think the Cards did more than enough to keep him on their part.
But its not a big deal or anything.

that said I dont expect him to walk away from that money and I dont wish him any ill will
hes just another ballplayer now on some other team who wanted the pay day like most of the rest.

by jealousblues on Dec 8, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i've had a poster of albert on my bedroom door

since 8th grade. i bought it at a book fair for like $5 and it’s stayed on my door since. i just took it down and it will remain in my closet for a while… until i figure out what i want to do with it.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 8, 2011 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

Bonfire.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

don't be ridiculous

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think you can get high off posters.

And I’m not sure you should try.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 8, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Joking

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

TODAY IS NOT A DAY FOR JOKES

geesh man take another pill or roll one up & chill the f out

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

figure out your petty little problem

and then tell me what to do about this ass tat of Albert.

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

send it to his charity

I dont think anyone should burn his stuff.

If you want to make a point donate it to his foundation, they can do whatever they want with it.
It might make SOME difference in someones life, it makes somewhat of a point, and it gets it out of your possession if you just cant keep it.

by jealousblues on Dec 8, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yep.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

to quote house, "everybody lies"

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by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 8, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

sigh....

That’s pretty much all I got on this.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 5:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This should

Be engraved next to his statue…

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 5:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

very damning indeed

Albert is no doubt going to be bombarded with such quotes and asked, so why did you leave for 3-4 million more a year? I’d really like to hear his answer, because he doesn’t have a good reason. Like I said, something else is going on here, and Pujols wanted a fresh start. Let him go and move on.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 8, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

The DH

For Albert to maximize the last 5 years of a 10 year contract, he needed the DH.

by olddomination on Dec 8, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont think he gives a shit if he maximizes his value

about the money and the money only. which is fine, but its just disappointing to go back and read all those quotes.

by Wombat x on Dec 8, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

yikes

he’ll have trouble living that one down.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

these were my exact thoughts on this

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It's less than $2M/yr, after taxes (10.3% in CA, vs 6% in MO, paid on about half the income)

Also, 1% of the LA tax is not deductible. And property taxes are lol.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry if that has been nexdef'd, but

Security guard don’t mean shit to my bazooka.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

let it go, dude.

i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus

by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

hehe

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He better stay overnight

Because I’d be shocked if that thing makes it through the night

RE-SIGN EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Dec 8, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

So, I've had actual work to do today.

How’s the collective holding up?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Dec 8, 2011 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

some pants were shat.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i know i shat my pants...

but that’s just because it was Thursday

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John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 8, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

We're fine.

Everyone’s fine.
Just fine.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

this is normal for gdm though

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Just fine.

“Fine. Just fine. I heard a new voice in my head and Albert Pujols signed with the Angels, so my childhood has been rent from my body.”
“That’s great! Wait… you were just kidding about the voice, right?”
“Relax – we don’t have to answer that.”

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

What is the best way to cope with this?

Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 8, 2011 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

I could really use a hug.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 5:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

the guy with "crush" in his name argues for booze; the guy named "beer me" argues for hugs.

the world is a funny place.

i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus

by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   5 recs

a swim meet?!

are you even college aged?

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

now fang is going to look down on him

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Creepy, I'm a junior. Not sure how you knew that.

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by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

umwat

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

there are swim meets in college...

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 8, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Colleges with swim team susually have swim meets for said swim teams.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Players come and go, but championships live on

Uh, sorry lurking Cub fans. (Actually, not really sorry)

by bailorg on Dec 8, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you!

We did just win the world series. I should still be happy!

Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 8, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

my girlfriend doesn't care about baseball

She said that he did the right thing. I had to hold my tongue

Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 8, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

to be fair.

She is Korean and has no idea how Free agency works in the MLB or Korean Baseball. All i said was he got offered more by LA than STL.

Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 8, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

it was "right" for him to take the most money only because it's the logical thing to do

problem is, it was the “wrong” thing for us after 11 years of him saying he would never take the money, he lied & took the money. so logic & reason are thrown out the fucking window when the one guy we always counted on to do the “right” thing for us, stabs us in the back & took the money

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

meh. at my age, i can't be surprised that money is an important factor in people's decision-making.

as for his prior comments, one has to take them with a grain of salt. if he were dead set on being a cardinal, no matter the money, he would have signed a below-market extension a long time ago.

i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus

by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I never thought him resigning was likely...

Exactly because of the way DanUp worded it in the last article, about Albert’s view of the world as a series of “Respect / Disrespect” events.

Though, also, I shouldn’t be surprised that a player would say they want to stick around no matter what they’re actually thinking. Not many people were saying “Good for him, for being honest” when Fielder said he didn’t see himself coming back to the Brewers, just before the playoffs.

WWCD? CDGAF.

by JStymie on Dec 8, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

This is actually my perception

It was completely inevitable that the Cardinals wouldn’t resign him, because it was inevitable that the people around him had “disrespected” him in some manner, be it not offering him a record contract before his current deal was over, various random perceived slights throughout his time here, and other things.

by oplaid on Dec 8, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm not surprised at all he took the money, of course he was going to take the money

it’s the being lied to i have the problem with. we all knew this could happen, we all knew this probably would happen. i admit i should have taken everything he said with a grain of salt, but he kept saying it over & over again for years so i foolishly bought into his lies. it’s my fault really.

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

no, but going for the money isn't very admirable

I like to believe tom s. thought that he’s looking for a new challenge.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

smoke weed

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Won't look right with the birds on the bat over a manssier

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Cleveridge not to be part of the cards legacy on my watch

nor untucking and such nonsense … even if his jersey probably self untucks by the end of the game if not before

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

At times like this, there's only one thing to say

And that’s that I’m just glad we acquired a dude names Shooter Hunt.

I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
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by purple_haze on Dec 8, 2011 5:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Wait, what?

I thought that was just some obscure reference that I didn’t get and subsequently z’d through.

What’s the deal with that?

by bailorg on Dec 8, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Finalist

2009 MiLB Moniker Madness.

Edged out by Dusty Napoleon, Rowdy Hardy, and Beamer Weems.

#HappySeason

by The Continental on Dec 8, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I played against Dusty Napolean in HS

That bastard. Went to the same HS as our very own Charlie Tilson.

by mojowo11 on Dec 8, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh
Jon_Heyman People ask, is albert pujols worth $254 million? And I say, is he 3 times better than aj burnett? Or twice as good as vernon wells? #bargain

by OKCardsfan on Dec 8, 2011 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

You are totally right

I just did so. This tweet put me over the edge. Apparently there is an Academy Awards for Faulty Logic and Heyman is gunning for prime billing.

by Fred Head on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

How do people like this have jobs

and I’m sitting at home typing on the internet. Seriously Heyman and the lot of them are some of the most moronic “insiders” I have ever seen.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 8, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Agents and GMs don't really want to talk to smart, reasonable people at times like this

It’s much easier to get sociable, but somewhat gullible reporters to say whatever you want them to say for the benefit of your client or team.

by bailorg on Dec 8, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

or is he 500 times better than allen craig?

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't even particularly like this version of this song

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

john cale ftw

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

For me, that's what sucks so bad.

Because I thought that’s what he’d do. I thought the BFIB stuff was heartfelt and all, that he was a great guy.

To be sure, I probably would have taken the money too. So I realize there is some hypocrisy on my part. But I didn’t take the money, he did, so he’s the greedy money grubbing jerk today, and I am the judgmental fan that feels like his heart got ripped out with a vacuum cleaner.

by fuegophil on Dec 8, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i think that its fair at this point to say albert valued the ~$50m more than he valued the attachment to the familiar

as far as knowing he “wouldn’t be as happy in the new job, or that it wasn’t right for” him, that’s all speculation. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have signed with the Angels if he didn’t think it was right for him or if there wasn’t a chance he would be as (or more) happy.

by all4tookie on Dec 8, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Word!

additionally, in Pujols’ case there are many more factors (even monetary factors) that are affected by his decision than just the annual salary difference.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Dec 8, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

it's a complicated question. it depends on what the intangibles are and how much i value them.

i’ve worked for non-profits for less than i could make in the private sector because i valued what they did, and i valued having a different schedule and a different set of expectations.

but you’re supposing that pujols saw intangible value to being a cardinal over being an angel or a marlin. he may not have seen that value. or maybe he saw intangible value in it, but just didn’t think it was worth the salary difference.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

it's subjective. only albert can decide how much the extra $4m is worth to him. or how much living in st. louis v.

southern california is worth to him. hell, maybe he likes california! maybe the intangibles weigh in the other direction. nobody really knows.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

...
but you’re supposing that pujols saw intangible value to being a cardinal over being an angel or a marlin. he may not have seen that value.

it is also possible that for whatever reason continuing to be a cardinal is relative negative

by all4tookie on Dec 8, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

its pretty clear a lot of what he said is puffery directly contradicted by his actions.
So why would you want to leave a place like St. Louis to go somewhere else and make 3 or 4 more million a year? It’s not about money. It’s about winning, that’s it.

don’t know why we should treat his statements about how he always wanted to be a cardinal for life as any different

by all4tookie on Dec 8, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly I'm making zero assumptions to whether or not Pujols had any REAL attachment to the Cardinals.

Maybe he had a little, maybe he had a lot — maybe it was somewhere in the middle (most likely). That’s beside the point. I’m just surprised how many people are saying “Anyone would take that big of a pay jump %” — to your exact point, it really depends on the intangibles for the specific job A & B, and the person involved.

WWCD? CDGAF.

by JStymie on Dec 8, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

have us or would any of us say every time we are asked we'd never take more money

and we want to stay at that job for the rest of our careers and always say we love it there & wouldn’t leave as long as we are paid fairly for our services, only to then leave when more money is dropped in our laps? hell to the fuck no we would never say that. Albert said all that & more. he lied. he’s just like every other greedy athlete, show me the money bitches!

well i hope he enjoys his money. and i hope he has the exact career Ken Griffey Jr had in Cincinnati.

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

i think you're overestimating people. or maybe just not seeing the ways people do this every day.

how many people go to school or out into the world of work and say, “i just want to help people” and then end up cashing in for the big paycheck? i know a TON of people like that.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

/shifts eyes

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

nah. i mean, i never wanted to help people

but i did want to be a writer. so i did sell out in that respect.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

the next great american novel

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

ooh, me too.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

didn't everyone? i wouldn't call IHB a sellout because by that definition

we’re all sellouts. we all had childhood dreams of doing big epic things. but then we grew up when we saw how the world works & we learned to dream a lot smaller.

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

and then you take the bottle

and as the bile fills up your body, you start to slowly erode

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

as much as i like to think i'm dead inside, i'm not there yet

hence my reaction to today’s news

maybe there’s hope for me yet

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i feel like i sold out a little bit.

but i don’t regret it. and it turns out that i really do like my job. so i could love my job and be poor, or like my job quite a bit and be comfortable.

i chose the latter.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

don't feel that way, you're doing what you love

in my book you’re not a sell out if you’re doing that

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i actually decided that if i ever get a year's worth of salary saved, i will take a year off to write

of course, i may not get my job back when its over…

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

and now you help giant corporations

discriminate against the old and disabled….a tool of The Man, dare I say.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 8, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't want to be that way....

I wanna stay classy and all the other stuff… but right now I hope he never reaches the milestones, never breaks the records, never cements his ‘legacy’…. and dislike myself for being petty and emotional and childish. It is what it is.

by fuegophil on Dec 8, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too...

I was sure this day would come back in 02 – 04, that soemday that wouldn’t be able to afford him, but really bought into the mythic nature of the whole thing after the hr off Lidge though… I don’t want to hate…the Cards are still here, and still have a chance to be good, but he was the only player, the only one ever, that I never missed an opportunity to watch him hit no matter how busy I may have been; then he backed it all up with the flattery and the promises that I swallowed like some Jonestown kool-aid. Knew it might be happening, and let myself fall into it anyway. So stupid and naive.

by fuegophil on Dec 8, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

i hope this proves to everyone that you really can't trust athletes

no matter what they say, no matter what they do, don’t believe them. never, ever believe them

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah...

but cynicism and distrust doesn’t seem to make people happy either. Not sure how to not get hurt/upset/sopissedIhopebadthingshappenbaseballwisetopeople/sad over this stuff without being completely skeptical all the time either…

by fuegophil on Dec 8, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

after a while you learn turn your feelings off

you become jaded & cynical and just say f it all & f everyone. well at least i did, or i thought i did

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

What about cows??

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100% All-Natural Holstein here!

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BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

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Heart Disease is COW REVENGE!!!

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by The MooCow on Dec 8, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't have a heart!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

:=8P

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by The MooCow on Dec 9, 2011 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

could have been Musial,

Chose to be LeBron…again, with the Brinks truck he rode out on. Sideways.

by RollBirdsRoll on Dec 8, 2011 10:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Lebron left to hang out with his BFF Wade and because Cleveland was terrible.

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by hazel on Dec 9, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Lebron did what we are hoping Pujols would do

Choose winning over money. He chose both.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

no, people hate him because they thought he owed cleveland something

which is ridiculous

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

no one up here thought that, they thought he was one of their own

and would never leave because he said he wanted to stay there forever & build a great team & win a lot of championships. sound familiar?

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but they had made up their mind to hate it before it

or many did, at least.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

no they diddn't. you don't understand, he was all Ctown had

the clowns suck & the tribe was in the seller. the economy is crap up here. everyone’s out of a job, the weather sucks, it won’t stop raining & snowing. it’s fucking miserable up here. lebron was their one bright spot. and when he bent them over on the WWL like he did, their reaction was absolutely justified & still is

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

There were many people who had it in their minds to hate Labron for leaving

irrespective of the fashion in which he left. I can understand why the poor people of Cleveland wanted Labron to stay, but he’s justified to go to where he has the best shot of winning.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

heh

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

how do you know the people here did that?

not being a dick i really want to know why you think that. living up here i can tell you it was a shock & no one saw it coming

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

A lot of the comments I saw on various place

were along the lines of “if Lebron leaves he’s a traitor and scum, etc.”.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

this is quite true

and i’ve known plenty of people who took massive pay cuts just to do something they’re happy doing. but there is a level of pride that attaches to athletes’ salaries, which does not attach to our own lives.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

But I think there are some objective standards

Legacy, and duty to your fanbase.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

something i have been thinking about is maybe albert did not want the legacy he was falling into

i mean, maybe he didn’t want the pressure that goes with it. maybe he wanted to show he was more than a big fish in a small pond, you know what i mean?

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the pond in Anaheim is a lot smaller than the one on St. Louis

Pujols doesn’t seem to be a guy who shrinks away from a challenge, especially considering that he’s essentially become the new A-Rod. He now needs to perform, or else his legacy is damaged.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

ya i do think his ego of being overlooked by the media in the STL led to this decision

i don’t think the pressure of being this generations Stan had anything to do with this.

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it's ridiculous to compare Pujols to an average worker

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I have.

ALBERT PUJOLS RESIGNED.
SIGN PRINCE FIELDER

by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

i did about 9 years ago

i still regret it

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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Passan stole our joke
On the other hand, this may be the day that saved the Cardinals, the one on which they avoided the sort of albatross – or, as it shall be called, the Albertross – that can hamper a franchise for years.

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

asshat.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 8, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Though he does have this cool tidbit
The only person to play that many games from his age-32 to -41 seasons is Pete Rose. And the only player with 1,500 games at that age over a decade is … Pete Rose. Knock it down to 1,400 games and the list grows to nine. Ever. And just 22 in history have played at least 1,300 games from their 32nd birthday to their 41st.

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

On the other hand

Modern strength and conditioning is way beyond what it’s ever been, so that’s likely to help a player’s longevity.

by mojowo11 on Dec 8, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

what's actually amazing about that list

is that only 6 are steroid-era guys, afaict. Palmeiro, Luis Gonzalez, Biggio, Finley, Edgar Martinez, and Omar Vizquel, on the list of top 25.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

if omar vizquel took steroids, he should get his money back.

and yes, i know you said “steroid era.”

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by tom s. on Dec 9, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

so we know who originated it yet?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

how?

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

or trade for

It’s there. You just have to look for it

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by Notorious PSC on Dec 8, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hamels - Lohse swap?

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by Sir Sci on Dec 8, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

my thoughts after a bummer morning

1. It’s not the cubs
2. I’m sad, but wondered if when this day would come
3. He said winning is what matters, he got more money and went to a winner.. if hed taken that to go to toronto, or seattle I’d be real upset
4. It’s not the cubs

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Dec 8, 2011 5:59 PM EST reply actions  

I won't lie...

1. I would prefer it be the Cubs. I would prefer he go to a franchise with a storied (if humorous) history, and stay in the NL. Then we’d have more chances to boo him.
2. Still in denial.
3. He said winning is what matters, and went from the reigning WS champions to a team that has missed the playoffs two years in a row and has ten fewer championships in franchise history.
4. Again, rather be the Cubs.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

by the halos can be competitive

and its not a re-building team all i mean…still glad its not the cubs

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Dec 8, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

1. It would also have a chance to visibly bite them in the a$$

And it’s always fun to see the Cubs get bit in the ass.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Dec 8, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too

Everyone I know is from So Cal. Too many fb statuses from BS fans already.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 8, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

We'd have certainly enjoyed the decline phase, more frequently.

Seeing miller K him 5 times in a day would have made my week, in 2014.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont know about cubs

and i know its just bitterness but i wish he would have gone to the marlins and have to deal with them going bankrupt and selling off their team in a couple years. the angels are a good franchise and will likley win a WS with him

by Wombat x on Dec 9, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

there's no way they'll win unless they go on a crazy run like we did

the Rangers, Yankee’s & sawx will are much better teams

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

they said the same thing about the sawx & eagles this year and look what happened

wombat i really don’t believe they’ll win. they will probably win a wild card or two but they are full of really old & not that good anymore players. also they’re minors ain’t what it used to be. you can’t win a lot with that combo

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

He'll probably have several years at least of high production from Pujols

to chase a WS with. He gets to take another swing each time. World championships are pretty random, so who knows, but they’ll be in the mix for a while.

#HappySeason #SadOffSeason

by The Continental on Dec 9, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i can see Albert having a monster year or two in 12&13

but the ball does not carry at night out there & in a couple years his power numbers are going to disappear

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

that park is pretty bad for right handed power

also he will be playing a lot of games in safeco (literally DEATH for rh power) and oakland. and…. texas. but yeah, that division has some good pitching and big parks.

by Wombat x on Dec 9, 2011 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Are there rankings for park factors adjusted for RH vs. LH batters?

Because for 2011 overall, Busch III seems to be rated 4th worst for home runs, only ahead of Citi Field, Kaufmann, and Phone Co in SF.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor/_/sort/HRFactor

by bailorg on Dec 9, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont feel like looking it up now

i know safeco is notorious for being really brutal on RH power. busch is a pitchers park too and it didn’t bother him so yeah

by Wombat x on Dec 9, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

he'll love fenway, Yankee stadium, skydome, Arlington,&of course KC&Htown

but i can’t see him liking Oakland, Safeco & Angels stadium at all

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

He's not Albert.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

max effort swing, and lacks some plate discipline

hard hard contact
very young
probably a corner OFer
still raw

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea what his power potential is

20-30 HRs I guess if everything works out

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

(normal sized head)

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by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Angels career bWAR leaders

Jim Fregosi 44.1
Brian Downing 37.7
Tim Salmon 37.6
Bobby Grich 35.0
Garret Anderson 28.6

Legit shot he retires as the best Angels position player ever

by all4tookie on Dec 8, 2011 6:10 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

yes.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

na, he could put up like 35-40 WAR and have the deal be a wash

given salary inflation in next 10 years (esp considering new handcuffs on draft/int’l spending) and tangential revenue (if this exists? not sure)

by all4tookie on Dec 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure it exists to some extent

And I agree.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed.

See sig.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Im shocked

just wow……was sure he was heading back to STL

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by Gatorfan4life on Dec 8, 2011 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

Or this one

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

technically its only 233 million times better

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

lawyer'd

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

what's carpenter getting paid?

technically it’s only 254/carpenter times better

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

this

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by azruavatar on Dec 8, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

carpenter's should have some sort of weighting involved

for coming significantly before. and for the fact that it looks like carpenter is actually saying “ha!” pujols is more like “aaaaaaahaha!” or so

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

dear lawyer

your math is very wrong.

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by azruavatar on Dec 8, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

that's why i'm a lawyer dude

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Not a math major

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by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

One of my big pet peeves is when non-ABET majors

called themselves engineers. That used to drive me up the wall.

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by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

How do you feel about non-PE guys

Who call themselves that?

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

i am a doctor, though

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm not a Dr but i play one on the internet

and i played one in real life for about 7 years

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i gotta say i'm rather impressed

by how generally collected VEB has managed to stay today

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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 6:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

yeah, we freaked out a lot worse over Rasmus.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Best trade ever

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

It's the torch I carry

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

*pssssst* I think you mean 'stoke'.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant stroke

that’s what i do

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope you have some fire-retardant gloves.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll take your word for it....

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

"come on bayybe, stroke my fire"

could be the unlikely goofy indy hit of 2012.

If so, thank me and CodyG in you liner notes. And maybe send a groupie or two our way.

Thx!

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember lboros not thinking so that day.

I’m still not sure that I’ve seen his after-thoughts on it yet now that the season is over.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm guessing it's targeted for the maple street edition

but I’d love to see it sooner.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I would ban you...

but there are soooo many site upgrades I still want.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Dec 8, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

VEB is rational it it's heart

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

well, i admit i totally lost it with the Boog trade

but i generally try to remain rational
just lock me up when we give up Carp

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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 6:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I was seriously more upset

about both Boog and Luddy, than I am this. I was dangerous after Luddy- had to take a day or two off work. Turns out both of those were likely overreactions, if only by degree. I’m so strangely OK with this that I wonder how I’ll feel tomorrow. I guess I’v just been expecting it.

This just seems like such a bad deal for the angels that I almost wish them well.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

this is worse than Boog or Luddy because this was Albert's choice

i’m not as mad because those two were bit players. i’m also more hurt than mad. i feel betrayed, stabbed in the back. i fee like my wife cheated on me with my brother right in front of me. and i’m not even married.

this hurts. a lot.

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

not during the postseason

those game threads were impossible

and we won the world series.

by YesWeOquendo on Dec 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

DOOOOOMED

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by Paulspike on Dec 8, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

TLR tweets
@TonyLaRussa Tony La Russa
AL fans celebrate. You get to enjoy Albert’s greatness!

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 6:18 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

f u tony

TLR is gone, long live the king

by sportsman on Dec 8, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that is wrong TLR if it's even true

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a jerkface mcpoopy pants.

Boog would’ve cheered us up by now.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 8, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I so agree with you. Way to rub it in Tony.

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by spfldbird on Dec 8, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Good morning VEB, a nice dusting of snow is falling here, and my ski legs are itching to go.

I’ve had a gut feeling all summer that Albert would be leaving the Cards, so this is in no way a surprise or shock to me. I am saddened to see him leave, but I’m glad that he went to AL since it would be weird to see him play against the Cards, so I reckon I’ll be following the Angels next summer as I’ll continue to a Pujol’s fan, and hope he takes the Angels far. I’m looking towards the day when I’ll tell my grandson stories of the Great Pujols when he was a Cardinal.

by Tuning in from Korea on Dec 8, 2011 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

I'm loving the snow!

Yeah, i wish i could say the same though. I am childish and i don’t want to see him be successful with the angels though. I will probably calm down in March, I just hope the Cardinals sign someone else

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Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 8, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

re: loving the snow. I was just thinking today

that I really wish it would snow here. Hasn’t snowed yet this winter (besides in early October for some reason) and this is Boston.

Really would up my spirits to wake up to a big snowfall tomorrow morning.

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by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I love snow but i hate driving in it

Luckily, i get to take the subway here so it’s not too bad. This is our first snow and it made my day a little bit brighter. I am hoping for snow for you as well!

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Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 8, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I never really go that far north!

I work at the world trade center near coex so im south of hangang. Maybe it’s a little warmer down here haha

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by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 8, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah it's snowing in Seoul to, it was just barely coming down when I left the house this morning,

get up here at Casey it’s coming down good and sticking.
I’m with you, hope the Cards rebound good on this, and spend wisely.

by Tuning in from Korea on Dec 8, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

It gets colder that a witch's tit in Korea.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

there's actually supposed to be 'in a brass bra' at the end of it.

I was typing fast.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

it gets much colder than it does in saint louis.

Usually it’s dry though

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Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 8, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm so very glad this is over now.

I was fine with him leaving just for the fact that….well…..I really didn’t want to have to watch him gimp around like an old man when he reached that stage. As well as the money end of it. I think we have more room to do more things now. It was hard to see it happen but I’m fine with it now. Onward and upward!

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

Really?

I would have been perfectly happy watching run-down Pujols at age 47 or something just for the memories of the days of Albergtus Magnus, because what would a single massive HR at age 42 be, even if it’s one of only 15 all year and he has to do a Kirk Gibson-worthy limp after every swing of the bat, if not a momentary burst of light to Brad Lidge’s collapsing on to the mound in 2005, or Nolan Ryan’s vacant combination of admiration and horror at watching three homers in Game 3? It would be the same joy as watching 47-year-old Jamie Moyer throw a complete game shutout or 48-year-old Julio Franco steal a base or 40-year-old Jim Edmonds still be Jim Edmonds. Because, in the end, you would know, he’s STILL Albert. You know he’s still quite possibly the greatest hitter in the history of the game. You know he’s played for this team for over 20 years, and has come to define St. Louis baseball as we know it.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah.

Instead we’re left at the juncture of baseball dreams and business realities, the crossroads of childlike idealism and cruel grownup reality.

by fuegophil on Dec 8, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, and a lonely intersection it is.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm going to bed.

i left work at about ten, drank a bottle of wine, and am crawling under the covers. i am acting wholly irrationally. sigh

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 6:25 PM EST reply actions  

I'm sure RR will be by at sometime.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Friends coming over for drinks over here,

I say we play a drinking game. Every time you see, say or hear the number 5 you have to drink

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by Paulspike on Dec 8, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

where are you going to drink?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

that alewife place i went to before

http://alewifequeens.wordpress.com/draught-list/

think I’ll probably just get a couple flights with recs from the bartender

by all4tookie on Dec 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

great beers on that list that i have had

Racer 5, 60 Minute, Allagash White, Stone Smoked Porter, De Ranke XX (so good on tap), Jack D’Or is a really good saison.

by tehzachatak on Dec 8, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, man, give us time to grieve: we'll get there.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Career splits for both

Drew vs. RHP: .286/.393/.513
Ross vs. LHP: .282/.349/.563

alternative older choice Aaron Rowand

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

rowand is not a choice for anything.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

depends on the drugs

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Flagged

/too soon

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by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I was going to suggest Drew, but then I saw that he sucked ass last year.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 8, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

We are only allowed to grieve for 11 weeks apparently

one week for every year seems to be the standard. So right in time for spring training!

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 8, 2011 6:32 PM EST reply actions  

Or 50,000 drinks. Whatever that takes.

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by Paulspike on Dec 8, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

so like, 3 days, for VEB.

Maybe 2, given the way we’re going tonight.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh... I thought it was 1 month for every year.

So… right in time for the World Series. 12 in 12.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

you go Mang!

So many memes are gonna be asterisked now … skulks away

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12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess in the back of my mind

I was already expecting this to happen after the failed extension talks.
so I’ve been preparing for the last 10 months.

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

z

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

feature idea

keyboard shortcut to scroll through my own comments to more easily keep track of subthreads I am commenting on or alternatively a shading system to highlight my own comments

by all4tookie on Dec 8, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Angels were just trolling the Marlins

Some can make a fish joke out of this.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

Angelfish?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Um...

You just did.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/troll

It’s pretty amazing how many people don’t know where the word “troll” came from.

by mojowo11 on Dec 8, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

indeed.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

no

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

nope...

I wouldn’t have been bitching if they gave him 10/254…..I’m not gonna bitch that they didn’t though.

Sign Cody Ross

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 8, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I will for you.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

no

I wouldn’t be bitching even about 10 year/$250M.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

not at all

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It all depends on what comes next.

Who among us didn’t throw stones at the Rasmus trade? I want to watch some baseball before I decide whether or not I should be looking for a ledge.

by StillLostinNC on Dec 8, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I, for one, loved the Rasmus trade

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i did not hate it

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, and some of us can stomach this as being the right decision.

I guess I’m just using that as the most recent lesson that initial gut reactions don’t win and lose baseball games.

by StillLostinNC on Dec 8, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

ALBERT PUJOLS RESIGNED.
SIGN PRINCE FIELDER

by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

honestly no

I’d sign that contract without a second thought.

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by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I said I'd be excited yesterday.

Still would be.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 8, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

Maybe a little if it had been $220, but not like I would if it had been $250.

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by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I was scared he would accept, I'll admit.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Sigh I said this on Dec 10th 2010
AGon to Boston is good news for us

We now don’t have to worry about Boston or the Yankee’s to bid on Pujols. Still got problems with Mets and Angels though

by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 8, 2011 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

I wonder if Boston or the Yankees were the mystery team.

Bidding in secret because if they signed him they’d have to unload a star to make space.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 8, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

You get points for pointing out a big-market team with an obvious need at first base?

Then do you also lose points for pointing out the Mets, who were definitely not involved in the bidding?

by mojowo11 on Dec 8, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone have anything to add to this (reposted) list

The legacy of Albert Pujols over the past decade+ is virtually unimpeachable, but here are a few things that I won’t miss:
- The two-hop doubleplay balls to shortstop, during which the throw beats him by 30 feet
- The standing and watching of his homeruns
- The tendency to range all the way over to the shortstop position to field a routine grounder
- The occasional idiotically aggressive base running play
- The half-jog, half-walk to first on a ground out

I know the good outweighs the bad by a ridiculous margin. Still, let us focus on these things and begin the healing…Ah, who am I kidding. This list makes me miss him all the more, for it was in his errors that he hath revealed unto us of his humanness.

by YepYouGuessedIt...CardinalRed on Dec 8, 2011 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

Meh, with the way that guy hits

I wouldn’t even mind if he decided to kick puppies on his way to first or play his position while eating a turkey leg.

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by Paulspike on Dec 8, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Pujols is consistently rated as one of the better baserunners in the game

And him jogging out groundouts is a smart way to prevent injuries.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

"The first time I see him stand an watch a home run in an angels uni..."

I will have to pay for a new TV.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Whats next for Cards?

with all this newly “free’d” up money. are they planning on trying to sign anybody/trade?

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by Gatorfan4life on Dec 8, 2011 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

GM was asked similar questions today

to which he had no answer. Clearly avoided talking about any particular plan about any particular player. He only said he prefers FA to trade.

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by Paulspike on Dec 8, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

there just isn't anybody out there.

But I have to believe a marginally big to legitimately huge trade is a legit possibility

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 8, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

ugh, I would hate a trade, we'd done come out on the losing end

just sign Furcal and Beltran and wait till next year to get a big guy.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He's 35, I don't think we'd have to give him a 3 year contract

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

probably 2...he'll ask for 3

and of course his agent is Lozano..ugh.

Sign Cody Ross

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be fine with 2

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Really

Cross out Carlos Beltran off the list

by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm cool with Furcal and Beltran

but I’d be surprised if some right handed relievers and top ten prospect(s) weren’t packaged for something.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be fine with that

But I think it would take Shelby or Martinez for anything big to happen.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

you may be right

but I feel like we could make a “fair” “big” trade without including Shelby or Carlos.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

the gm is playing it close to the chest.

my guess is we get an outfielder (expensive option: beltran; cheap: crisp) and a shortstop (probably furcal). maybe re-sign punto. not a lot of huge impact talent out there in free agency. trades are a possibility.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not put together a bid for Yu Darvish?

Waino
Carp
Darvish
Garcia
Whoever

Victory.

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by purple_haze on Dec 8, 2011 6:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

this

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but Kuroda is 87 years old

Darvish is 25! How many shots do you get at a potential star pitcher’s prime years?

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by purple_haze on Dec 8, 2011 6:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

How old was Dice-K when he came over?

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

for ~20M + posting fee

you can get a lot of pitchers for that.

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

kuroda will be 37 next year. he had a 3.56 xFIP last year.

darvish has no track record in MLB. he’s much more likely to be below average in his first year in mlb than kuroda is to crash.

the last thing we need to blow big money on is the right to pay even more money to a japanese starting pitcher.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

also, Shelby, Martinez, Rzep, Lynn

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont name me our pitching prospects.

If there’s one thing I’ve learned about pitching development, it’s that you can always find a spot for them if they have the talent. I don’t think signing Yu Darvish will preclude any of them from reaching their potential.

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by purple_haze on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

But pitching's clearly our strength in the minors

I’d rather sign a SS with Darvishes money.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

or trade for a SS with our minors

we do need infield help though

and we won the world series.

by YesWeOquendo on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose we could trade Shelby for Hanley or someone and sign Darvish

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i wonder what it'd take to get alexei ramirez from chiw

hanley makes so much money, the marlins would have to eat some of it if we’d want both him and darvish

and we won the world series.

by YesWeOquendo on Dec 8, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure, but pitching being fungible as it is,

There’s always room for surplus value there.

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by purple_haze on Dec 8, 2011 7:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Pitching doesn't win World Series

Just ask the Phillies.

Nick Puntos win World Series, my friend.

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Cardinals will forever be my heros for knocking out the Phils

Cant stand them……

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by Gatorfan4life on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember that time Victorino tried to throw the ball AND IT WENT BEHIND HIM?!

Good times, guys. Good times.

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

remember

That time pujols stepped off the bag and threw utley out? Weep.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That was one of the top three plays of our postseason

But seriously, just take a moment to remember the time Dotel struck out Ryan Braun 18 times in one game.

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

that was one of my favorite things of all time.

EVERY TIME! so awesome.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

This line of thought...

…worked out so well for the Phillies.

by BigJawnMize on Dec 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

well, it did, really

considering they were probably the best team in the NL last year.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

Density just got in the way.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

bad news, guys: chase utley bought a turtle.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he should be a cardinal

Get it done Mo.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ugh, That's like calling Fredbird a Velociraptor.

Also, side note, why does Mozilla try to correct “velociraptor” to “velocipede”? Did I miss the jurassic park episode that featured extremely hungry fast-legged creatures?

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Pitching...

…is overrated. (Tongue was kinda in cheek for that one.)

Now that I say that why do the Cardinals spend so much on there rotation?

by BigJawnMize on Dec 8, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

years of failure to draft and develop pitching prospects

if any of reyes/lambert/ottavino had worked out the back of the rotation probably wouldn’t cost $18 million this year.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 8, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

…this looks like it is on the mend.

Offensive side of the ball the farms problem currently.

by BigJawnMize on Dec 8, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

PRINCEY!

ALBERT PUJOLS RESIGNED.
SIGN PRINCE FIELDER

by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to say,

I am really glad to have VEB to come here and vent about this stuff…

Else this would be a really lonely day. You folks make it better…

by fuegophil on Dec 8, 2011 6:45 PM EST reply actions  

Wouldn't it be great

if out of nowhere Matt Adams hits his way onto the club out of Spring Training and puts up better numbers than Albert and wins the ROY……..at $480,000.

Don’t mind me….just daydreaming.

Sign Cody Ross

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 8, 2011 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

don't do that...

Albert’s not worth the time you might get locked up for.

by fuegophil on Dec 8, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

If this doesn't motivate him to train hard this offseason

Nothing will. He now has opportunity knocking at the door.

by nmstar on Dec 8, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hes really going to love the LA media

maybe not as bad as chicago or new york, but its certainly worse than STL.

my love for you is like a truck

by TheHolyDiver19 on Dec 8, 2011 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

the toughest question

He ever had was do you think this wrist injury will coat you money in free agency and he answered it like a jack ass.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

current lineup:

1. Jay cf
2. Craig rf
3. Holliday lf
4. Berkman 1b
5. Freese 3b
6. Molina c
7. Descalso 2b
8. Greene ss
9. Wainwright/Carpenter/Garcia/Lohse/Westbrook

I’d say we’re a Pujolsian middle infielder away from being Championship contenders.

Those are easy to find right?

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 8, 2011 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

he doesn't even need to be pujolsian. he just needs to not be descalso

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

No...

…but a platoon for Jay and Descalso and some thump off the bench aren’t too far off. If we can keep things together and avoid gaping holes in the line-up like Theriot and Schumaker, we will be fine. It isnt the sexiest line-up but the rotation the 2nd half of the year looks like it has a chance to be really smokin’ if Miller is ready.

You have to keep Descalso as a stop gap until Wong is ready.

The big problem is finding a solid SS that will hit. Greene might be able to do it given some ABs. The other long term problem that we created was CF. Jay is a 4th outfeilder, but give him a decent platoon partner I think you could get above average production out of the position.

by BigJawnMize on Dec 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yuck.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Please, no Jay

Leading off.

Why do people always want to put the fastest guy (or the guy who looks the fastest) on the team in the lead off spot, instead of the guy who gets on a lot?

Okay, his .344 OBP wasn’t terrible, but it still is below what you want for a lead off guy.

They don’t have a lot of good options, though.

by DiscoJer on Dec 8, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

in this case the fastest guy is clearly greene

it’s just that the cardinals don’t have anybody with a high OBP who also isn’t a power hitter. jay is the closest thing to that.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Over/under 6 months before we hear all the stories of the behind the scenes

Rumblings of deceit and deep-seeded pujols resentment

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 6:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Under. With Boog it took seconds.

When the Cardinals won the World Series, Ryan Theriot was batting lead-off.
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by Paulspike on Dec 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

already heard them, on MLBN, tonight

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

any specifics?

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

One caveat, I do realize that this guy is basically a Lozano mouthpiece, but here it goes anyway:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/al/angels/story/2011-12-08/albert-pujols-cj-wilson-sign/51750952/1?AID=4992781&PID=4166869&SID=7urn1qq0lsqf

“There was a frustration there,” said Mattingly, who grew up a Cardinals’ fan in Evansville, Ind. "You could just sense something was wrong. He was getting frustrated by it.

“I hoped he would stay in St. Louis because he’s such a legend there. He’s like [Derek] Jeter and Cal [Ripken], but I also knew he would go where his heart would take him. People talk about the money, but I knew he would be following his heart.”

Pujols’ frustration stemmed from two years of not being able to come to an agreement with the Cardinals on a long-term contract extension and sensing the team didn’t view him as a priority. He helped the team to the World Series championship this season in the final year of an eight-year, $116 million deal.

They made an offer in February worth about $195 million for nine years. Pujols, who wanted a 10-year deal, declined. They agreed to shut down negotiations until the season ended, but when free agency opened on Oct. 30, the Cardinals took the offer away and supplemented it with much shorter-term deals. Pujols, people said, almost felt as if the team was daring him to leave."

by bailorg on Dec 9, 2011 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Meh, I gotta take that with a grain of salt

But I really can’t buy into the idea that Pujols wouldn’t have felt like a priority.
Also, “agreeing to shut down negotiations until the season ended” isn’t exactly what happened.

But overall, I do think, for whatever reason, that he wanted to leave.

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't think we'll ever get the full story

But there are a few too many stories that have implied something went wrong in the relationship between Pujols and the Cards’ FO in the past couple of years for there not to be something there, even if it just as small as one or two perceived slights that the Cardinals may or may not have realized the importance of.

by bailorg on Dec 9, 2011 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

he works for albert

if that was actually said, it’s because albert told him to get the most money possible

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2011 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

that's how they played it

he was “upset they got the Holliday deal done, but they didn’t get an agreement done with him in spring training last year” or something like that.

Came across as pandering, but it was pretty bad.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 3:25 AM EST up reply actions  

much more likely to see trumbo @ third than pujols.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

Pujols will be a 1B for the rest of his days, until he’s just a DH

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not one of those sickos who wishes injuries on guys.

Hell, I’ll be all for it if Albert breaks the HR record. But am I the only one who has lived the last sixish years with the perpetual fear that the next Pujols elbow injury was going to be the last one? I almost feel strangely at ease knowing that I don’t need to worry about that.

by StillLostinNC on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Which reminds me of something a Red Sox fan friend said to me about 20 minutes ago:
“What happens if Pujols fails his physical?”

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

What would happen?

He’s a FA again?

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, unless the Angels decide that they still want to pay injured Albert >25M a year.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

At some point...

Guys like David Wells and Andruw Jones passed physicals didn’t they? Which begs the question: Is it possible for someone that is still breathing to fail an MLB physical?

by fuegophil on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, but it's rarely free agents.

Cardinals voided a few IFA signings in the past, the Dbacks first-round pick in 2010, and some trades have been nixed (Greg Vaughn for one). The last free agent I can think of who had a deal voided because he failed a physical was… wait for it… yes, Dennys Reyes with the Phillies.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Rich. Garces.

Rich Garces never failed a physical.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy crap that guy is huge...

Always makes me wonder…. maybe I was a few tacos from the majors…

by fuegophil on Dec 8, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me dream, man! Let me dream!

Seriously, though, could you imagine how crazy shit would get if the Angels voided the deal based on some elbow or leg problem that popped up?

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh lakers just trolled the angels

Traded for Chris Paul….so much for your front page story, Arte

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

i don't know who that is. seriously.

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by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

likewise

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Basketball. Don't know what that is.

When the Cardinals won the World Series, Ryan Theriot was batting lead-off.
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by Paulspike on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Paul?

Well he’s going to the lakers, so it’s automatically a bigger story than Pujols to he Angels

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Chris Paul?

Well he’s going to the lakers, so it’s automatically a bigger story than Pujols to he Angels

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 7:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

For Gasol and Odom though

I can see that being unpopular.

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It's genuinely frowned upon to trade your big man depth...

Because they’re hard to come by. But at the same time, Chris Paul is the best PG in the league right now (I say that as a Bulls fan). Not sure what I think of that trade.

WWCD? CDGAF.

by JStymie on Dec 8, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Bynum is the best piece the Magic could get for Howard...

That is going to be an unreal stacked team. It’s like the Heat, except with guys that actually compliment each other.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 8, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

it seems unanimous that its a great move

basketball is pretty weird, literally there are abot 20 players in the league that matter

by Wombat x on Dec 8, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i was driving home from los angeles at ten

and pujols was already on the back burner. they were just talking lakers rumours at that point. pujols was treated, for better or worse, like a god in st louis. he was the preeminent sports figure for almost his entire career here.

southern california does not care about baseball nearly as much as saint louis does.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

It already is

Pujols isn’t in Kansas anymore

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 7:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yea

his hero/star quotient just took a big dive
big fish now in bigger pond
not the same

TLR is gone, long live the king

by sportsman on Dec 8, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

it has trumped pujols.

not very many people here are talking about anything but the lakers.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought you went to bed?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i did. i actually am in bed right now.

i pulled out my computer again, just to check something, and ended up back here. i’ll be gone soon. the wine is setting in.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, it's been fun guys, but I gotta run

I have to clean the man cave before my poker pals get here and start drinking and bitching about Pujols. TTYL!

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by dan on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

This hurts really really bad

Baseball was designed to break your heart

by ANDYAK47 on Dec 8, 2011 7:07 PM EST reply actions  

Offfff

Disappointment. That really pretty much sums up how I feel about the loss of Albert Pujols. I don’t blame him for taking the most money where ever it could be found. Nor do I blame him for equating respect and value with salary. Many of us in our professional lives equate how much an employer values our services based on compensation. Clearly the Angles valued Albert’s contributions more. I would have been ok with the cards offering a similar size deal, even if it would have been detrimental within a decade, but I am ok with the decision to draw the line at 10×210.

I don’t care if Albert reaches 3,000 hits or 600 home runs; neither of those milestones benefit the Cardinals and therefore need not be celebrated by its fans. I do not want to see the Angles succeed because their success in no way benefits the cards (in fact Albert the Angle experiencing similar team and personal success as over the past decade would likely degrade the importance of his time with the Cards within the narrative of his career).

A few other thoughts:
1. I want Albert to still go into the hall as a cardinal.
2. If in the future there is an opportunity to allow Albert to finish his career with the Cardinals, the decision should be made based solely based on his on-field value at that point. No freaking 1 day contracts or sleeping in the clubhouse deals.
3. No Red Jacket club. Business is business and by taking the money Albert forfeited his status as a Cards living legend.

by JMedwick on Dec 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Idc what people say

I do blame him… He should know better than to be selfish and break millions of fans hearts just so he can line his pocket a little more… When will men figure out that no man is an island

Baseball was designed to break your heart

by ANDYAK47 on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess Im just not that angry

Ultimately he loses. We are a helluva baseball town. This is one of the most storied franchises in all of baseball and we got some damn loyal fans. If he wants 30-40 million over in LA over here good for him, its his loss.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Here's the thing

I doubt he thinks about it that way ( or won’t without some suffering ). That may change though. Without a decade of excellence to fall back on, Angles fans need have no patience with him. Their team is paying big money for the greatness they have heard so much about. If he isn’t great, the fans will turn quickly (look no further than aRod).

by JMedwick on Dec 8, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on all three of the final thoughts

Although I’m not sure I want us forking over any kind of contract when he’s 42! We’ll see what cyborg parts he has by that point, but still…

by StillLostinNC on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmm

1. Agreed – Albert goes into the Hall as a Cardinal.
2. Not necessarily. Bring him back the way they wanted to bring JE15 back this year.
3. Agreed – by leaving, he forfeits the jacket.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

the hall decides what team he goes in as.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

True he may not want to go in as a card

But it really depends on how the LA fans treat him and level of success.

by JMedwick on Dec 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It entirely depends, I think, on the Angel's Postseason success with Pujols

I have no ill will towards the Angels or Pujols, but I really hope they do not win any WS while he is there, simply because even if he breaks all kinds of records while an Angel, if his only WS Championships are with the Cards, I suspect the Hall will put him in as a Card.

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by Sir Sci on Dec 8, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Why bring him back?

He made a business decision. the cards should approach any though of brining him back with the same clinical eye.

by JMedwick on Dec 8, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

This has been a fucking weird baseball year

What a rollercoaster.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Heh, yeah.

Quite the eventful 2011 year for the Cards

When the Cardinals won the World Series, Ryan Theriot was batting lead-off.
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by Paulspike on Dec 8, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i would say that

quite the up and down year, Waino going down in ST, the incredible September, all of those playoff elimination games, down to 2 strikes twice, TLR retires, and then this

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

idk about you guys and Idk if this is pathetic

but I cannot stop the tears from coming

Baseball was designed to break your heart

by ANDYAK47 on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Somewhat similar feelings,

especially since I found out about this late? Why did I find out about it late? Because I’m already dealing with panic attacks. This sucks.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

we have towels.

not sure you want to hug anyone here, though… it’s a bit dodgy.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

the last 5 months or so

have been insane in the membrane.

Because Matheny

by WyoCardsFan on Dec 8, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

If there was ever a must-win Blues game, tonight is it. Home or Road?

Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A

by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think so,

and I’d like to believe I’d remember that one

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

sad Mo is sad

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 7:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

this is like "dat ass" and "welp that sucks"

rolled into one facial expression.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

add "HFS, " to either of those

Looks like a guy with 4 aces being beat on the river by a 2-6 straight flush.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

VEB ... very funny!

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Works

Since Beaker is awesome, and is my favorite muppet.

I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.

by Sir Sci on Dec 8, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine too!

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 8, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Sht Beaker works for everyone...

…when you can draw Beaker comparisons from Brad Penny to Mozeliak you know the reference applies to everyone.

by BigJawnMize on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

What are some good earbuds or earphones I can buy for 50 bucks?

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

check amazon.com with their lightning deals

they’ve had quite a few up for sale in the last few days and the past weeks.

Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

headphones i'd go with either

koss portapro’s or sennheiser px 100’s. I have a pair of the sennheisers at work and like them quite a bit.

> tebow

by cschepers on Dec 8, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a fan of Arsenal, the Cardinals, and the Colts

In the past 6 months, Arsenal has lost their talisman in Cesc Fabregas, the Cardinals have lost their icon in Albert Pujols…..chances are, the Colts will lose their legend in Peyton Manning.

At least we won the world series

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Same here,

barring Arsenal.

It’s odd, I’ve been a fan of two teams with the best respective players in their sport, and now both may be gone.

I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.

by Sir Sci on Dec 8, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh weird.

That’s me too. Oh Cesc…I still love you. Nasri, you can eat worms for all I care.

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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose now would be a poor time for the Man City fan to interject...

Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A

by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I literally don't care about Man City fans. Just hate Nasri.

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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

is this where a Tottenham fan starts trolling?

Seriously though, why are so many Cardinals fans Arsenal fans? Is it a STL thing that I thankfully missed out on?

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 8, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

I kinda have always rooted for the Glasgow Celtic.

I just want an MLS team in St. Louis.

I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.

by Sir Sci on Dec 8, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

ok...now that Pujols is gone, here are my demands...I think you'll find them quite reasonable, Mo.

Rafael Furcal, Cody Ross, Nick Punto, and George Sherrill. Also, get Jake Westbrook off the team. A shiny new contract for Yadier Molina would be pleasant as well.

Sign Cody Ross

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Eh

Just because you didn’t overpay for Albert doesn’t mean you should blow money overpaying for medicore FAs.

Descalso basically is Punto, and Furcal is likely better than Greene, I don’t think he’d be that much better over a season. HIs power he showed with the Cardinals was the only thing that didn’t make his stay during the regular season a disaster, and IMHO, that was fluky – he’s not going to replicate that over a whole season

by DiscoJer on Dec 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

punto is a much better defender than descalso i think

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!

by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

also, probably a better hitter.

which is scary.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

but, but...

descalso’s max effort cannon throws are fun!

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Also...

Punto would be in addition to Descalso…not in place of.

Sign Cody Ross

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 8, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I just hope the 2010s Cards don't become the '70s or '90s Cards

without the big guy in the middle, it’s a scary future

something is happening here but you don't know what it is

by Cha-Cha on Dec 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

Just remember

It’s a terrible division, there’s always hope.

I wish the Astros would stay though.

by DiscoJer on Dec 8, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, night VEB

Going to grab a beer and put on game 6, to watch my favorite Cardinals players win the best game I’ve ever seen: Craig (smash), Holliday (gun), Puma (clutch), Freese (explanation unnecessary).

Am I missing anyone….? Nope, guess that covers it.

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 7:23 PM EST reply actions  

besides westy that about sums it up

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

So are the Angels awesome now?

Someone tell me please.

Weaver/Haren pretty cool top of the rotation. And I guess a couple of awful contracts they’ve signed have no effect on them.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 8, 2011 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

They aren't necessarily better than the Rangers

Rangers pitching is still deep as can be, and that lineup…

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 8, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

uh, i feel like i should

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

you could just shorten to vep

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Just think of A Muppet Christmas Carol and Kermit the Frog...

“Life is made up of meetings and partings. That is the way of it.”
In related news, me and my friends are thinking of doing a Muppet Christmas Carol drinking game tonight before DT.

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Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

I was terrified of that movie

Statler and Waldorf always scared me as a child, and the part where statler is the door knob screaming when michael cain goes to open his door, or when they show up in chains scared the shit out of me

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 8, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Just the Ghost of Christmas Future scared me.

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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

The more this day goes on the more disappointed I am

For those of us around age 20 basically all my memories of the Cardinals include Pujols. I vaguely remember the McGwire stuff but I was too young to comprehend any of it. Its still pretty surreal that he’s gone.

by Wombat x on Dec 8, 2011 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

they come and they go....

Hornsby, Frisch, Medwick, Musial, Brock, Ozzie, Big Mac, Albert, ?

Sign Cody Ross

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 8, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I just had 3 dog treats, but my dog stayed next to my dad's side. You know why?

HE’S LOYAL, UNLIKE SOMEBODY

Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A

by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 7:57 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

eat $254 million dog treats

then we’ll see who’s loyal.

Seriously, that would be ~5,100 dog treats, for every single person in attendance at opening day. ~510 dog treats, per year, for 10 years.

I don’t think I’m that loyal.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

(assuming you can only get one dog treat for a dollar)

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

everyone i know, goes away in the end.

Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero Saint Louis deserves, but not the one it has the money for right now.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 8, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Ive got another one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2bqXzmpCzM

Pearl Jam – Long Road, I think this song sums this situation up perfectly

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Johnny Cash cover is much, much better than the original

Nothing against the original, it’s just that Cash’s cover is so great

RE-SIGN EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Dec 8, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Once Cash sings another artists song it's a Johnny Cash song

Ask, Kris and Willy

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

check Cash's cover of Rusty Cage

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is it not a Johnny Cash song now?

Or is it better than whoever sang it?

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

everything johnny cash covered is immediately better than the original

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!

by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Reznor said he had tears in his eyes the first time he heard it; he loved it so much

But he felt like Cash had taken the song, like it was Cash’s now. And then Cash and Carter died just months later

RE-SIGN EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Dec 8, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Quote:
Nine Inch Nails’ Trent Reznor has revealed that hearing Johnny Cash’s cover of his song ‘Hurt’ for the first time felt “like someone kissing [his] girlfriend”.

Reznor added that the 2002 cover matters much more to him than industry accolades like the Grammys.

Speaking to The Sun’s Something For The Weekend, the frontman said: "[Producer Rick Rubin] called me to ask how I’d feel if Johnny Cash covered ‘Hurt’. I said I’d be very flattered but was given no indication it would actually be recorded.

“Two weeks went by. Then I got a CD in the post. I listened to it and it was very strange. It was this other person inhabiting my most personal song. Hearing it was like someone kissing your girlfriend. It felt invasive.”

Source

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 8, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

and

Reznor also hailed Cash’s cover as a great honour, saying: "Having Johnny Cash, one of the greatest singer-songwriters of all time, want to cover your song, that’s something that matters to me. It’s not so much what other people think but the honour that this guy felt it was worthy of interpreting.

“He said afterwards it was a song that sounds like one he would have written in the 60s and that’s wonderful.”

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 8, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

Cash could make any song his. Before hearing this song years ago, I would not have believed he could do a NIN song. But he did. And it was so fantastic.

RE-SIGN EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Dec 8, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

the video destroys me.

wasn’t long before he died.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That video is incredible, as is the song. Reznor on it-
I pop the video in, and wow… Tears welling, silence, goose-bumps… Wow. [I felt like] I just lost my girlfriend, because that song isn’t mine anymore…

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

My future husband rules:
dfreese23 David Freese
Blessed to have played and won a world series with Albert. Now it’s time to win one without em. New challenges. New opportunities. #pujols

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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 8:06 PM EST reply actions   4 recs

Most are keeping it together pretty well

But thought I’d post this, if you’re like me. Link

Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A

by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

governor jay "mojo" nixon declares he is disappoint.

Per P-D, the guv says albert shouldn’t have taken the money and gone to california.

i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus

by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 8:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

He's also from Mizzou

Yup, kinda like Mizzou bailing for more money in the SEC.

Excuse me, I just have a slightly irrational hate of both Mizzou and the SEC.

I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.

by Sir Sci on Dec 8, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing is

I don’t think they will make more money in the SEC. At least not net

Sure, they get 4 million dollars a year more (or something like that) but they will have to increase their sports budget by about 20 million a year

MU got scared a couple years ago when it looked like the Big 12 was breaking up and they had no place to go.

by DiscoJer on Dec 8, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC

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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Classic MLBTR comment regarding the Jeff Lunhow hire...apparently thinking the Pirates hired him
tightenupthenCollapse


Not a good choice. A National League office man that never played pro baseball, had nothing to do with the Cards surprise World Series titles in 2006, 2012, and was probably hired on the strength of his loyalty and ability to follow instructions. The Pirates need a general manager that understands “the money ball principle” and fully understands baseball with the designated hitter. I don’t know if this guy fits the bill to lead the Pirates out of the lower class status, even below many newer franchises that don’t have the history and honor of the Buccos..

Sign Cody Ross

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 8, 2011 8:20 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

that was the worst comment I've ever seen

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I stopped reading here
had nothing to do with the Cards surprise World Series titles in … 2012

by hr on Dec 8, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

at least we can be reasonably sure

the GOBs don’t bother with MLBTR.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

minor news:
The Cubs have acquired Ian Stewart and Casey Weathers from the Rockies in exchange for Tyler Colvin and DJ LeMahieu, tweets Troy Renck of the Denver Post.

Sign Cody Ross

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 8, 2011 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

On the upside of things...

As a 30 year old, I got to grow up during the Whitey Ball era then sort of wonder what happened in the 90s, then be mildly distracted by McGwire. Anyone else really not worried about this team becoming the 90s Cardinals? Even without Pujols, with Wainwright coming back, I feel like we still have a great team who just needs a decent hitting SS or 2B to stay a contender.

I was thinking about it on the way home, how weird it was that a manager and a superstar, both of whom were super competitive, would jump ship after a championship. It seemed like an odd way for an era to end. But then I thought about it more and whether or not it’s “odd”, it’s sure as hell a much better way to end an era than to do so on a losing season where we didn’t even make the playoffs (which, let’s be honest, almost happened). We’d all be wondering.. if Wainwright just had been healthy, if [insert other random factors], would Pujols have stayed because he thought we were in a better position to contend?

Maybe the reason this doesn’t feel too bad is because… well, the way TLR and Pujols left, it really didn’t leave too much room for questions. There may be some eventual revealings of off-the-record Bert/FO fist fights, but the era ended on a highlight.

I feel like our farm system is set up to keep us competitive in at least pitching for the next 7-8 years. We’ll need another bat or two, but I feel like this is a club still going in the right direction.

But… wait… I had high hopes for the Rams this year HFS DOOOOOOOOOOMED

WWCD? CDGAF.

by JStymie on Dec 8, 2011 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

I've been hearing reports that we are now challenging the Marlins in pursuing ALL THE PLAYERS.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I lol'd

And I am not a tiny guy.

It’s too bad Rollins is a Sleazano client, since he’ll assume he has a good idea of what the Cards can spend right now. Though I wouldn’t want Rollins for more than 2 years and he probably wants a longer contract.

Fielder for more than 5 years worries me.

.. There’s really not anyone I want left, unless we could somehow magically get Cepedes.

WWCD? CDGAF.

by JStymie on Dec 8, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't really think of it is as a fat joke.

More of a Prince Fielder joke. I don’t really like fat jokes…

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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

What are you saying?

That people can read my sarcastic chessiness through the internet.

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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Just that you are awesome.

Clearly. :)

ALBERT PUJOLS RESIGNED.
SIGN PRINCE FIELDER

by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Or that.

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St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I just assume any posts you make wearing the

Xmas sweater go green.

i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus

by tom s. on Dec 8, 2011 9:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Because I am awesome.

Clearly.

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Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

you left Awesome! in response to Clearly.

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

/fail "off"

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

SIGN PRINCE FIELDER

ALBERT PUJOLS RESIGNED.
SIGN PRINCE FIELDER

by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

SHUT UP FINK

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You just like him cause he's a vegetarian, you biased bastard

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

and you know who wasn't?

FINK!

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 9, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

More like was but isn't.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

He doesn't eat mansteak and manbacon

still a vegetarian.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

As a former Catholic who observed Lenten Fridays, I used to think occasionally forget vegetarians couldn't eat meat.

fun fact.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I considered that

but I liked the symmetry

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 9, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

of the remaining name guys yoenis cespedes probably makes the most sense.

but I don’t know just how much sense that is yet. if he’s any good he’s the perfect age for a five or six year deal, but a big MLB deal on a guy who’s punished high-A/AA pitching his whole career is tough, even though the scouting reports are great.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 8, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I at least hope

they’re scouting him thoroughly. If he is as advertised he would help make up a lot of offense. Cubans don’t have the greatest track record though.

by nmstar on Dec 8, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

You don't think Rene Arocha was awesome?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Dec 9, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd be very surprised if Mo made this move

It’d be pretty uncharacteristic for him to take a risk like Cespedes.

Granted, if the scouting reports and everything else convince him, it’d be possible. But very unlikely.

by oplaid on Dec 9, 2011 7:01 AM EST up reply actions  

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/12/8/2620950/2011-rule-5-baseball-draft-results-and-reports

22) St. Louis Cardinals: Eric Komatsu, OF, from Nationals: Komatsu was drafted by the Brewers in the eighth round in 2008 from Cal State Fullerton. 24 years old, he was traded to the Nationals for Jerry Hairston Junior this past summer. He hit .277/.367/.382 in 124 games in Double-A this year, with 21 steals and 64 walks. The 24-year-old runs well and has a good eye at the plate, but lacks substantial power and profiles as a reserve outfielder.

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

pretty much

i guess it doesn’t hurt to have the back up. you can always return him in ST if he shits the bed or you sign beltran

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

seems like he’d be easy to carry all year as a fifth outfielder, though.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 8, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd've preferred Lorin, but MABDNGAF.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

adron?

TLR is gone, long live the king

by sportsman on Dec 8, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

No... Brett Lorin to be taken in the Rule 5. He was the next pick taken.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

you know what would be really priceless

if the Pujols family agreed to do a “Pujols goes to Hollywood” reality show

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

I dont go near reality shows anyway

so I wouldnt even bother with it

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

something else i was thinking

you know surely within the next year or so, just from him talking to teammates about st louis and media spinnage and word of mouth, some shit is gonna leak about pujols and the cardinals organization, some stuff that went down behind closed doors and what he thought about teammates, fans etc. ala theriot and the jorts just maybe not that blatant
wonder what else kinds of crap we’ll have to hear

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah it will

It won’t take a year either.

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 8, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i would watch it if it involved Shaq.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought 5 recs led to greenage...apparently it's 6

It’s a serious number

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 8:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

you have to change your nickname to VolsnCards6 if you want to be taken seriously, doc

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

must get rid of the 5 anyway

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The number 5 must be stricken

From now on, it shall go 1,2,3,4,6

RE-SIGN EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Dec 8, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha, this is the first time I realized equated my name to albert's #

Truth be told, it’s VolsnCards5 because I couldnt remember my AIM password for VolsnCards4 in like 5th grade

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 9:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nintendo denying reports that Miyamoto is retiring
“This is absolutely not true,” said a spokeswoman for Nintendo. "There seems to have been a misunderstanding. He has said all along that he wants to train the younger generation.

“He has no intention of stepping down. Please do not be concerned.”

link

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

no, I think that's what it's denying

They’re denying the Wired report

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I just read some more

I think people freaked out and thought he was leaving, but really he just wants to work on something a little different. Says he wants to do more game developing again.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm looking forward to seeing what he does.

And January 3rd is Skyward Sword day for me!

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I have a check-up that day?

IT WILL BE A GREAT, GREAT DAY IN THE REAL WORLD OF VEBERS

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

check-up?

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

going to the doctor

what do they call it?

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

One left. Saturday at 9 am

but it’s discrete math, so it shouldn’t be a problem.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

man, what a suckweek.

I’ve been sicker than I’ve been in years, absurd finals, and now this circus.
I’m still unconvinced this week has been real. It’s probably still last Friday night.
Yes, this is probable.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

There was the time related to your walk in the cold,

and I thought one other time, though maybe that was just extreme tiredness? Maybe I’m imagining things.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

oh the hypothermia isn't real sickness

I don’t count bullheadedness-induced.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Moreno, who watched the Angels fall short in recent years trying to lure free agents Carl Crawford, Mark Teixeira, Adrian Beltre and CC Sabathia, took the reins. He made two impassioned calls to Pujols. He told Pujols that they planned to also sign Wilson. They weren’t going to stop being aggressive in the market until they won a World Series championship, their first since 2002 and first under Moreno.

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

oh hey jerks i came up with another awesome present for my bf

(modeled after tom s.’s idea)

tickets to one of those movie theaters where they serve you food and liquor

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

I did this the other day

P. sweet, especially since I could get drunk while watching Twilight. Also, the movie kept fucking up at the beginning so they gave us a free pass so we could do it again

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

nice.

those are the only conditions under which i would watch twilight

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never really understood the appeal of those

People crunching and yapping while I’m trying to watch a movie.

If I didn’t have kids, though, movie passes to a regular theater would be awesome.

by sdrone on Dec 8, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

its mostly just the getting drunk part

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

nah you weren't a jerk. i was just kidding

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

oh good, i thought maybe you were mad that i didn't like the framed diploma idea

knowing the story i think it’s a sweet gestures & you’re a great girlfriend. he’s lucky to have you that’s for damn sure

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 8, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck yes he is.

needs to appreciate me more damnit

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

YES

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm, that sounds pretty similar to my idea

of either liquor, a concert, or a steak dinner. In fact it’s basically all three.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

fwiw, that's a decent date, if you're 19

but if you’re a marginal grown-up, that’s not really special, imho. I mean, that kind of stuff is available to do every weekend.

An “awesome” present is something you spent time on, that shows you cared. Doesn’t matter what the end product looks like, as long as it’s creative- you’d be amazed at how awesome a guy feels when he’s given something hand-made, by someone he cares about. As long as he understands, or can guess, what effort it took to make (IE, a calligraphic piece that you spent 500 hours on might get blown off, because a guy has no clue that someone might spend that time writing a letter with a fancy pen. but, a box of favorite candies, each individually hand-wrapped and dashed with perfume…)

I probably missed the 4000 post expose on why a special present is needed. please don’t recreate, on my behalf.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

WTF

who has time to individually wrap candies? dude i was at work until 9pm last night. i appreciate the ideas, but he and i are corporate sellouts working 50-60 hours a week. dinner and movie are a luxury we rarely have. and if we can do it together, WITH booze, its a win.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

OT cause i'm tired of this drama

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy goes into theaters in the US tomorrow
but i am having hell of a time finding a theater in the STL metro that is playing it
anyone know of one?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

i haven't yet

but from what i understand the movie does the book justice like the show did

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Been a while since I saw a movie down there

But I bet Plaza Frontenac might be the “closest” option.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Dec 8, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, so it'll come eventually

thanks flim

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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It all makes sense
"Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" opens this week in New York and Los Angeles; Dec. 16 in Boston, Chicago, San Francisco and Washington; and Dec. 23 in Dallas, Denver, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland, Ore., St. Louis, San Diego, San Jose, Calif., Seattle and Austin, Texas, with wider release to follow.

Source

by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 8, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Plaza Frontenac starting on the 23rd

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

mixed emotions

cards offered albert a bad contract
angels offered him a worse contract
cards (and marljns) saved from themselves

if cards spend money wisely to flesh our roster

TLR is gone, long live the king

by sportsman on Dec 8, 2011 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

+1

I just hope he has something left in the tank next year.

by nmstar on Dec 8, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

more interesting news

StullySTL Brian Stull
Just had Allen Craig on the “Stully and Dunc” Show…he’s very optimistic that he’ll be playing around Opening Day—five mos from surgery

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

theyll probably add it as a podcast

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

theyll probably add it as a podcast

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

or not

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes please

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I love messing with my dog

He is horribly afraid of the hot sauce bottle

by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 8, 2011 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

Surprised there is so little being said about Pujols leaving.....

I’m OK with this. Every minute that goes by I realize that I am a Cardinals fan, not an Albert fan.

I didn’t think I wanted anything to do with Prince but I would actually like to see him in this lineup and I’m guessing he’s better value. Short of that, I’d stand pat and see what next year brings. Like the Beltran idea, but don;t see him signing up to be a platoon outfielder.

I remember when Rolen started to suck (remember how he popped up almost every at-bat towards the end). I don’t mind guys like Descalso and Punto sucking, but I think it would be hard to watch Albert decline like Rolen did.

On the flip side of that thought, every memory of Albert in a St. Louis uniform is a good one. So, I’m thankful for that. We rode that horse to three World Series, now someone else can pay him for that.

The 2012 Cardinals with Albert were a lock for the playoffs. The 2012 Cardinals without Albert are a contender. The only management goal needs to be “get to the playoffs” — We don’t need much tweaking to get there.

Draft choices galore!! We’re going to have a great farm system for years. Frankly, losing luhnow may be a worse impact in 2012 than losing Albert.

I think the Angels paid way more than the Cards. When the truth comes out, it will look like more years, way more money. I suspect there is $60-80 million of difference between the offers on like for like basis and that ain’t chump change.

I knew when La Russa left that Albert would leave. TLR knew that the Cards wouldn’t go all-in.

Finally, I don’t think the Cards really wanted Albert back. Its a business, and paying Albert all that money meant that we were going to have a lot of rookies and a lot of Aaron Miles on the next ten years’ teams

Just win

by The Duke on Dec 8, 2011 9:00 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

oh. Nevermind!

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

no, no, go back to sleep

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

good "winter" beers

go.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

Shock Top

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

GET OUT OF HERE

And take your Anheuser-Busch products with you!

Bells Winter White Ale
Goose Island Mild Winter Ale (/hypocrite)

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Dec 8, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

i like the mild winter

I’d really like to create a homebrew clone of it..

> tebow

by cschepers on Dec 8, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

What is wrong with you?

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Dec 8, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

but more importantly it is clearly not a winter beer.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Dec 8, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Shiner Holiday Cheer

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Had that last night.

And yes, it was filled with delicious holiday magic.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Dec 8, 2011 11:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Trolling is fun

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Redbreast Irish Whiskey

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This is also a great postseason beer

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

o/

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

\o

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

One of my favorites in winter is Okocim.

A Polish porter that is kind of chocolatey. I also like any of the dark Unibrau beers (Tres Pistoles, etc.) in the winter. If I’m in a 6erious mood, North Coast’s Old Rasputin. For something more smooth, Brother Thelonius by the same.

Play ball!

by IL and StL Fan on Dec 8, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Busch

but that is good year round

I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.

by Hootie Who on Dec 8, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

st bernardus holliday ale.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha, Holliday ale

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

we all do

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

whatever the fuck. i'm drunk.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

you're supposed to be asleep!

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I need someone to explain this to me
This is crazy: Hearing the NBA (owner of New Orleans) vetoed the CP3 trade because it wasn’t in the best interests in the league.

by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 8, 2011 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

nevermind

Didn’t realize Chris Paul came from New Orleans. Thought random owner could veto other team’s trades

by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 8, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

hilarious

its the equivalent of a fantasy trade being vetoed because everyone is jealous someone got the better deal.

by Wombat x on Dec 8, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm gonna have pei wei for dinner i think

i haven’t been there in awhile. is it still good?

i’m probably also going to buy a cheap bottle of wine at circle k

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Ankle.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

good.

asshole has lit me up thrice this year.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

YO YOU MY BIATCH

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

well go me then

/haven’t looked at the bracket
//playoff byes rule

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Enigma is scary. Who is he here?

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

No one knows.

He’s an enigma.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

YOU. IT'S YOU.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be in them if it weren't for your terrible rules

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

of points breaking the tiebreak?

fucking whiners.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

No, of waivers

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Does that change the validity of my statement?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOO

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

as a steelers/cardinals fan

this is turning out to be a very bad fucking day.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Dec 8, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

He's ok.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

ssshhhh

the nfl will hear you

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

There is every Thursday the 2nd half of the season.

It started in ’06 so the NFL network could have its own thing.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

THROW A PARTY AND GO DT!!!!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

yes.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

man, ben roethlisberger is giant, i had no idea

i wonder if my husband will point to him coming back into the game as a chance to take another jab at cutler

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Dec 9, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Albert? psh.

Adam Wainwright in 2012!!
I have missed my favorite Cardinal.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

Also, if Tommy John didn't ruin him (yeah right)

We have money to pay for him in the future now!!!

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

To do list for Mo

1. Inquire with Cody Ross’ agent to see if he has interest in a 2/10M
2. Inquire with Marlins about the availability of Hanley Ramirez. Pursue if only low level prospect(s) required with Cards paying remaining 3 yrs/46.5M or higher level prospect(s) with Marlins paying some salary.
3. Offer Furcal 2/14 if no go with Ramirez.
4. Resign Punto to compete with/complement Descalso and provide IF depth
5. Offer Molina extension 2/18M
6. Inquire with Beltran’s agent to see if he has interest in a 2/17M
7. Politely decline to return phone calls from the agents for Rollins and Fielder
8. Recognize that pitching is the strength of the farm system; five starters are under contract; back end and right side of the bullpen are well covered. Talk with the agents for LOOGYs George Sherrill and Mike Gonzalez

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 8, 2011 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

We've got some ca$h lying around

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

stolen bases anyone?

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Stolen bases

Awesome defense, switch hitter, a killer afro, and good plate discipline.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 8, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Hit's HRs

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

are you

kookoo for coco crisp?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

positives...

we’ll never have to worry about retaining molina, wainwright, and rasmus.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

i have a sneaking suspicious yadi will test free agency and get more money than he's worth

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

heh, guess who's 2013 option wont be getting picked up

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet baby Jesus

That Garcia contract is glorious

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 9:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Napoli, Kinsler, Stephen Drew, Hamilton

Ichiro?
Victorino
Cain
Hamels
Haren
Tim Hudson

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

doesn't list molina as a FA

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Ichiro's declining, sadly.

Kinsler’s got an $10 million option, Haren’s got one for 15.5

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

shit, I glossed over those little asterisks

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

ouch

yeah, I hadn’t checked out Ichiro’s stats lately…he is 38 though, so I shouldnt be surprised

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Also thanks for the work/chart

Non-tender- k-mac, theriot, and schu

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 9:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm ok with schu being back as well

Just not at the arb rate

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 9:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yes

non tender and then offer 1 millioooon dollars

11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 8, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

thats the chart from Cot's, FWIW

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

not rec'd nearly enough

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

holy crap we owe money to no one after 2013

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i think we should wait and see how his 2012 turns out

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Jaime?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah jaime and holiday and that's it

i mean, as far as contracts go.

hyperbole, you guys.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Holliday?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

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by TBender on Dec 8, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

celebrate?

i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus

by tom s. on Dec 9, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This is from Cot's, correct?

ALBERT PUJOLS RESIGNED.
SIGN PRINCE FIELDER

by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

basic information from Cot's,

however, the table is mine, not Cot’s chart.
I have my own sheet and update it manually when transactions occur. you can see my original post with the chart on my Korean blog.

Cardinals fan from Korea

by FreeRedbird on Dec 8, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice! Thank you!

ALBERT PUJOLS RESIGNED.
SIGN PRINCE FIELDER

by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

my apologies then

it looks like the one from cots

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

found

here

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Wonder about the emotions in the Cardinal clubhouse.

I mean obviously people want Albert in their lineup, but I wondering about the degree of frustration/disappointment/relief in some places.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Dec 8, 2011 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

yep

i still don’t know if i should believe this guy. the marlins 275 just seems like he would have taken it no trade clause or not.

by Wombat x on Dec 8, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

“The Marlins thought Pujols might agree on Monday, knowing their offer blew away the Cardinals’ deal. Maybe it would have happened. But another team stepped in and ruined Miami’s plans. The team, which refuses to be publicly identified, offered Pujols a 10-year, $225 million deal. Pujols was intrigued. If he didn’t return to St. Louis, this team might be the perfect fit.”

my love for you is like a truck

by TheHolyDiver19 on Dec 8, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

why would a 225 ruin the marlins chances

and who the hell is this damn mystery team. the whole article is pretty vague.

by Wombat x on Dec 8, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Erm, what's vague about it?

But Pujols wasn’t ready to commit. The Marlins had stuck to their club policy and refused to give him a no-trade clause. Pujols also was aware that incumbent shortstop Hanley Ramirez was troubled by having to move to third base for Reyes. And despite a pair of World Series titles, the Marlins’ franchise has all of the tradition of a strip mall with six winning seasons in 19 years.

He wanted a no trade clause
He was afraid of clubhouse turmoil (I think he’s friends with Ramirez, too)
The Marlins don’t have a history of winning

by DiscoJer on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess i mostly said vague because of the mystery team stuff

shouldn’t have said whole article. but he supposedly eliminated the marlins completely before he even had the angels offer. so he would have called them and told them they are out when they have a 275 million dollar offerand the cards are at 200? it doesn’t fit

by Wombat x on Dec 8, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

it is what it is.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I SEE NO PIE CHART

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

We're out of pies.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

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by TBender on Dec 9, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

ok... if you said something in the last 15 min

i missed it, ‘cause i was reading and didn’t shift A first.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

What are the cons of signing Prince to a 6 year deal?

Entering his prime, projects for 5+ WAR

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120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 9:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

You really think

Price is going to sign a 6 year deal?

I mean, this is sort of the silly thing about people saying “Oh, that contract is bad”.

Well, duh, when you chase highly desired free agents, you have to sign them to a bad contract. You don’t think the players know they aren’t going to be bad in 10 years time? They still want to play though, and want to play without having to scrap for a job

by DiscoJer on Dec 8, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Free agency isn't the place to find value

You just want to make sure you don’t take it in the shorts too bad, or for too long.

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 8, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

so, wait, ryan franklin is going to be a scout for us?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

scouting is like 2b, right?

anyone can do it?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, just like managing

With a good personality and a winning smile, what else do you need?

by bailorg on Dec 8, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

scary, isn't it?

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

pretty much

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

one of these days i should go to a hockey game

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutely

I love live hockey.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

my wife keeps telling me that I need to see a live game

in order to really appreciate the game.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not much of a hockey fan

but I went to my first game last year, and it was great (free tickets from work didnt hurt)

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Go to every weekend game

And while I don’t have the emotional ups and downs I do with baseball, in many ways I enjoy it more. Maybe it’s because I don’t delude myself into thinking I know all that much about it, not sure.

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 8, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently so should I...

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I have actually wanted to go to a Blues game the last two Christmas breaks.

Maybe this year I’ll actually get to.

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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

someone told me today that freese would be the new face of the franchise.

i laughed.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

...

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

There's the new face.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

he has a stache again?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

its an AP file photo

no date listed

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

we know it's 2009.

it was the great starter’s stache pact.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool

That’s cool that Freese went to the Blues game. At least they won today.

It’s interesting that there’s so much cross fertilization between baseball & hockey. Lots of hockey players who like baseball and vice versa.

For the record, I started out as a baseball fan and then became a hockey fan as well.

Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.

by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Just out of curiosity

What do you think the Cubs fans reaction would’ve been if Sandberg had left like Albert did?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

6 rings in 8 seasons

i’m sure they took it well…probably could have won 8 straight if he didnt retire the first time

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

These people that say the Cardinals should've locked Pujols up earlier...

don’t realize he would’ve wanted the same contract anyway….if not more. The market was established long ago.

Sign Cody Ross

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 8, 2011 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

Don't get that either

The “hometown discount” was never an option this time.

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 8, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

the video in that story says

that the cardinals wanted tried to several times, but were always told that pujols either wanted the circus contract or he was going to wait for free agency

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I've a Cub fan whose a kinda friend from school.

that is busting my chops right now about how we should’ve locked him up 4-5 years ago. of course he’s also calling Holliday’s contract a massive overpay, so consider the source.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

so...they shouldve given him an extension 2 or 3 years after they gave him a 7 year deal?

sounds like a Cubs-like move to me

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

it still would've been 250 mil

the cards would’ve never got to that number…not now, not then.

Sign Cody Ross

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 8, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't think that would have got it done

sounds like they would have had to top a-rod’s 275 contract to get him to forgo free agency

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's thinking we should've given him a lifetime contract and a deed to the city.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

at UIUC?

All the Cubs fans I know usually keep their mouths shut because we won the World Series like last week

RE-SIGN EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Dec 8, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

what is happening off to the left there??

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Elation.

Stop asking questions.

#HappySeason

by The Continental on Dec 8, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

the traditional man-pile

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

pretty sure lohse isnt in this pic

since anthony reyes and josh kinney are in it

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh

Somehow it all makes more sense now

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 8, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck yo details

no idea who is 26, then

is lohse even 26? i’m not good at numbers

but i think that’s eckstein offering up his pujols to not-lohse

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Spiezio was 26

and it looks like Eckstein is um…jumping into his arms?

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

look at Carp and umm? Sosa?

they’re both like, WTF’s going on over there?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

To the few parents out there

any tips on how to make a 9mo old with a bad cold and evidently a stomach bug feel better? I’ve done about everything I can think of and the little guy is just miserable.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

I think my wife would shoot me.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That's pretty much it right now

and a healthy slathering of vick’s.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

yep. It sucks. Good luck to you and him!

ALBERT PUJOLS RESIGNED.
SIGN PRINCE FIELDER

by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

thank you, sir.

you are a gentleman and a scholar.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Warm bath, rocking, and copious use of the snot sucker.

Sorry, that’s all I’ve got. Sometimes there isn’t much you can do.

#HappySeason

by The Continental on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you know we now have power snot suckers?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

much easier on the little ones

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

sure

walmart

target

This is the one we have. $20 well spent. Works great.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

you could always get one for yourself

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

you know what's funny?

Those have been around since the 40’s. My mother said that she used to have to go and have the doctor do that before the discovery of antihistimine.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 9, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

MOTHERFUCKERS YES

Dustin_Mattison: The #stlcards will get the Angels first round pick, 19th overall, and a supplemental pick after the first round.

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Nice.

ALBERT PUJOLS RESIGNED.
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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

that's excellent

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't heard anything like that

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

relative to this year?

no, pretty average from what I can tell.

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

no

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Dec 8, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

and dotel's and jackson's

fuck and yes.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Shelby Miller was drafted at 19 btw

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I need to stop being lazy and finally read up on all the CBA stuff

I’m not yet sure how excited I’m supposed to be about this now.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 8, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Has it been released yet?

I think that’s been the main hurdle of trying to work out what’s going on.

#HappySeason

by The Continental on Dec 8, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

23

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 8, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i know the nightengale article was linked above

and someone was asking how long it would take for negative Pr before it was written and the over under was 6 mos… try less than a day with this snid bit

When Dodgers manager Don Mattingly spoke to Pujols last weekend, he sensed Pujols wasn’t entirely happy with the Cardinals: “You could just sense something was wrong. He was getting frustrated by it.”

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Dec 8, 2011 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

I think he thought he was being taken for granted...

By the Cardinals. And the fans for that matter.

It’s funny how it’s considered all fine and good when a player is massively underpaid compared to his performance on his field, yet the opposite isn’t true. Especially ironic when basically it’s a for profit corporation that benefits from the former, not the fans (doubly ironic given the political leanings of most of the the members here).

It also buys publicity and revenue after he retires. Things like statues, bobblehead days, career milestones, etc, don’t really show up as obvious revenue, but they are benefits just the same, especially for long term growth of a fanbase.

I really think that has been one of the problems the Marlins have had, by trading players away as soon as they hit free agency, they haven’t really developed any players with long term ties to the organization. A rich history, if you will.

by DiscoJer on Dec 8, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well

Just got one of these, along with the pebbles, so I am set for the apocalypse.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 8, 2011 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

nsfw, just in case

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

i am still at work

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

You're welcome

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

(i have my own office and no other poor schmuck is here right now anyway)

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

sig win

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

hey i put on my molina shersey, got some pei wei, made some cookies and opened a bottle a wine

i’m doing okay.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

home now

i didn’t get any work done for the first 3 hours of the day, no thanks to pujols

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i got a bottle of wine

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

done.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

welcome home. reach for the nearest franklin

and bask in the soul-crushing reality of it. or, smile. :)

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by EinFesteBusch on Dec 8, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

wait, why are my own comments yellow?

and where is the body of my post?

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

in the end, the cards did the right thing

but it sure is a frustrating end to pujols’ time in STL. we basically went out to get a WS title FOR him, and he re-pays us by bolting. oddly enough, i feel strangely calm about all of this. maybe it’s because i pictured albert leaving for some time now. maybe it’s because we knew it was gonna be a tough fight to get him back. regardless, it’s sad how the man we’ve revered for the last 11 years will never be thought of the same because of today’s events. but, in the end, the cards did the right thing.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 8, 2011 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Yes. We won the World Series for Albert Pujols.

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, of course

we can do it any year we please, we just choose not to.

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean, we tried to get a WS title in order for him to come back

because we knew the odds.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

wat

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

FOR TORTY, DAMMIT

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I think it's plausible that the deals were made,

in part, with Pujols in mind. I don’t think it was a huge factor, though.

#HappySeason

by The Continental on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

so i guess we won't be trying next year, then?

or maybe that one will be for yadi

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

no

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, it's pretty clear now that he just helped the team win it for the money.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Source: Yankees offer Torty Craig richest contract in baseball history

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

...

highest salary in tortoise history, second only to the dude from Finding Nemo.

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by EinFesteBusch on Dec 8, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

squirrel union said to be in talks to change their CBA

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, tortoises age much better than dominican baseball players

so, probably a better deal, for the yanks.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

those are recs.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Dec 8, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

it was messing up i had to refresh

i recd it and then it had the flag thing and said 2

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Dec 8, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

50 years from now, Pujols will likely be remembered as an Angel, not a Cardinal.

How much mileage have the Cardinals gotten out of Brock, Gibson, Red, and Musial? Quite a bit.

But who are fans today going to fondly remember when they are in their 40s and 50s? That the club still trots out? David Freese? His career will likely be over in 5 years, IMHO.

I mean, it’s like on Fox Sports – they trot out virtually every player that even had a vague connection with the Cardinals (or so it seems). But they (and the Cardinals) largely miss out on Ozzie Smith because of the way the club alienated him.

I think it’s just very short sighted discarding players like this. It’s a business, yes, but it’s a unique sort of business, one that lasts for lifetimes. You can’t just think 5 or 10 years ahead, you need to think 20-50 years ahead.

Ensuring Pujols’s legacy as a Cardinal would have been worth more than $4 million a year.

by DiscoJer on Dec 8, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure he'll be remembered as a cardinal like brock/gibson/musial are

but unless the talks broke down when bill dewitt hurled a bunch of racial slurs at albert pujols I don’t think he’ll be remembered as an angel. he won three MVPs and two championships with the cardinals, will have played more seasons here, and likely had his best ones, too.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 8, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

plus, albert could still end his career here

odds on him playing past age 42?

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by EinFesteBusch on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

as both

why does it have to be one or the other?

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Precisely

If Pujols has similar success with the Angels then there’s no reason to believe that he will not be remembered for both teams. I mean, how do you forget that a guy won three MVPs and two WS with a team?

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by Sir Sci on Dec 8, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

how did the Cards discard him?

He took the money and left. I don’t begrudge him that—it’s his life. But let’s get real—he wasn’t non-tendered.

Ozzie was ticked at TLR—not the organization. He is going spring training this year.

by nmstar on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Look, you're right that there's a chance we pushed harder to win now to show him we're serious about keeping a good team

with a high payroll, but he doesn’t owe us a thing for that, and he certainly doesn’t owe the team for him getting a ring for it. Maybe he does owe us is some way (though I don’t think so), but certainly not for the 2011 WS title.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

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by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Getting that 2nd ring

May have made him more apt to look at other motivations, and certainly helped the Cards weather any type of fallout from not signing him. Nobody owes anyone anything. It could easily have made the negotiations a little tougher.

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I need a new sig

I had an idea awhile ago but forgot it.

RE-SIGN EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Dec 8, 2011 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

what about...

“haha angels! he’s really 35!”

Sign Cody Ross

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

trade for pujols

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 8, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

just gonna have a hard time imagining this team without him

i know that’s silly…especially since i was never really upbeat on our chances to keep him…but after how tuesday and wednesday turned out, thursday has been like an unending kick to the balls. i never really believed albert when he said money wasn’t everything and the 3 to 4 million and cardinal for life…he never compared himself to stan. we did that. a fan’s expectations can be cruel.

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by EinFesteBusch on Dec 8, 2011 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

When I need a pick-me-up, I reach for...

….something we called rock and roll back in the day – u kiddies wouldn;t udderstand…
;=8)

http://youtu.be/O7XTg2SdLOs

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by The MooCow on Dec 8, 2011 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

this is actually the first christmas music i've listened to this year

so if you feel like it, enjoy.

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by EinFesteBusch on Dec 8, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

adam wainwright 2010: 6.1 WAR

albert pujols 2011: 5.1 WAR

i don’t think the 2012 cardinals are currently significantly worse off than the 2011 cardinals

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

Now what are their Wins-above-actual-replacement?

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Like, the player(s) that replaced them

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You think we're not losing any WAR from Pujols -> Craig?

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i guess that's what it is. so maybe 2 or 3

but you’re more convincing me that the cardinals are better with waino instead of kmac and berk/craig instead of pujols/berk

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what I was doing

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Waino instead of KMac/Jackson

Berk/Recovering Craig instead of Pujols/Berk

Still might be close.

Play ball!

by IL and StL Fan on Dec 8, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

but won't berkman in theory be more valuable at 1b

so maybe its even less

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I really doubt Wainwright is a 6 WAR pitcher this year

and that Pujols puts up a 5 WAR season.

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

wainwright replaces edwin jackson and kyle mcclellan

while pujols is replaced by allen craig.

full season of craig > full season of jackson and kmac
2012 wainwright < 2012 pujols

I don’t think there would be a big difference in overall team production.

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by FreeRedbird on Dec 8, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The power of Rally Adron will compensate

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by Sir Sci on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Wainwright is unlikely to be at full strength

And the Cards weren’t that great last year in the regular season.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

pandora has not been kind to me these last two days

Torn
Really wish you were here
Some john cougar melencamp
Brain stew

i have skipped quite a few to say the least

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Dec 8, 2011 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

wow

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 8, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

eh, you wouldn't do anything useful for science even if you tried

The best you and i can hope to do is just not use a lot of trash.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I chalked it up to an awkward HS photo

but she does look pretty smug, now that you mention it.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha, yeah definitely just a HS photo

I had a couple people that lived on my floor in HS that were finalists for that prize. I was the audience for one of the guy’s practice presentation and it made me realize how fucking smart the people that are in that thing are.

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure. They should.

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SIGN PRINCE FIELDER

by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

they're gonna have to

guy’s got a lot of good clients. we can’t shut the door just because he outfoxed us on the big one.

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by EinFesteBusch on Dec 8, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

he didn't really "outfox" anyone

the angels offered albert a lot more money and he accepted it

by prophetjohn on Dec 8, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

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SIGN PRINCE FIELDER

by a fink on Dec 8, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

actually, to hear dipoto talk at his presser today,

seemed like he outfoxed everybody. waiting in the tall grass for reports to leak on the top bid then out-do it by a significant amount. i wouldn’t be surprised if moreno gave him the key to the whole safe.

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by EinFesteBusch on Dec 8, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Outfoxed him by offering way more money than us

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It would be absolutely idiotic not to

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't get this sentiment. Lozano didn't eff us.

Arte Moreno effed us. Albert did what he thought was best, but he also went back on his word re: $3-4M not being that much. We got outbid, and Albert decided it was worth it. The negotiations were a pain in the ass for internet Cardinals junkies like us, but it’s part of the business side of the game.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd have to see some evidence of that before acting on it.

How many wins in 2012 would you theoretically be willing to sacrifice to not negotiate with Lozano?

Not trying to be snarky, just want to illustrate a point — we only hurt ourselves by not negotiating with him.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

it feels like this has been an awfully long day...

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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

I atleast respect pujols for not having a TV special over signing with a new team

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by Throw on Dec 8, 2011 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

holy sig

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 8, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

hfs indeed

that needs to get knocked down a quote or three

and we won the world series.

by YesWeOquendo on Dec 8, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

fespn didn't waste any time


flag away!

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 11:11 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

that's the spirit!

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

FUCK

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 8, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

THAT deserves a rec.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Dec 8, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Scioscia gonna allow the black undershirt?

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by scoot on Dec 8, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

he's got the wrong red hat on

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by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That halo on his head is fitting...

because he’s weirdly dead to me now. Not in a spiteful sort of way, more like he’s just sort of lumped into the bin with every other athlete – legacy diminished substantially.

Look at it this way, VEB:

The Cardinals had Albert Pujols for 11 years at an average of $9.5 mil. per season during his prime years (living).

The Angels will have Zombie Albert Pujols for $25.4 mil. per season during his decline and desperate search for brains.

"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss?"
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by The Classical on Dec 9, 2011 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I just drove by busch stadium

it made me sad.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

some possible reasons Pujols declined to sign with us an went to the Angels instead
  • wants to win rings with both leagues
  • wants to have the option to DH when his fielding ability declines
  • St Louis front office and/or coaching staff disagreement
  • thinks he looks better in all read jerseys
  • didn’t like the statue but was too polite to say
  • doesn’t want to do the golf tournament anymore
  • finally got sick of the St Louis media
  • wants to be on TV in the entire country
  • Mo refused to include the Despicable Mo scarf in the contract
  • LA is on a coast
  • hates us
  • hates the Astros
  • Dee Dee wants a real tan
  • Dee Dee wants to do Real Housewives of Orange County
  • the St Louis weather
  • Dominican-like weather
  • better food
  • The Shadows
  • Lozano the whisperer
  • 10 guaranteed years
  • potential crazy endorsement money
  • loooooong shot – contract money

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by d-dee on Dec 8, 2011 11:34 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

likes fake boobs?

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

  • super religious

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by CodyG on Dec 8, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

heh

la la land isnt the first place I’d choose to go if I were super religious, yes I get the joke

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

wants to live on a major fault line?

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

New Madrid fault line doenst actually run through STL?

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

not directly through it

but close enough to flatten large parts of the city

by nmstar on Dec 8, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

* went on veb one night and got scared

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha
hates the astros

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by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

also, Joe Strauss

thought he needed to be mentioned specifically.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 9, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

the prob is he made the decision via prayer

so by that criteria…. angels vs. cardinals….

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Dec 9, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I've moved on from the anger of earlier

I’m now into the depression stage, just got emotional at the end of Parks and Rec

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Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A

by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

ahhhhhhhhhhh

no spoilers. Couldn’t watch tonight.

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It was great. Do you watch Community?

Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A

by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I do indeed

Parks and Rec edges it out for me, but I love them both

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by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I'm inclined to agree, shame about Community being put on ice until March though. Could be worse I suppose

Great easter egg I’m ashamed to have not noticed in Community. Beetlejuice referenced at least once every season. Look behind Annie at the end.
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Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A

by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

you were really angry earlier

also, your signature sickens me

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by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, rejoice in City and United's elimination from the UEFA. I'm still rooting for Real Madrid and Bayern

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by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Question: If I have a job lined up for next fall, and my academic performance

from here on out has no bearing on it whatsoever (provided I don’t flunk out), is it really worth studying more than the bare minimum for this round of exams?

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

NOPE

but you will do it anyway.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i got a 4.0 in five graded classes my last semester because i am INSANE

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

HFS!

that’s really hard to do with a LS curve. These is actually my last graded set of exams for all of school, since I’m doing a semester in practice next semester, so I feel like I can give one last effort. Maybe.

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by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i needed to do exactly that in order to get magna cum laude

which of course means nothing now

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I should probably retake remedial grammar though. yikes.

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah. I know.

sigh

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I kinda think yes, just because otherwise I'm lazy, but I'm kind of hoping someone

will convince me otherwise

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

to your first job

WMGT, do they go further than that? i haven’t known that to be an issue with any one unless they are moving from public to private

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I had the realization that my grades in college didn't matter for anything

Because I got this internship without submitting a resume, really, and then every other job I get is going to be based off this one

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by mysterui on Dec 8, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

if you ever want to go back to grad school, you would be wrong

i suspect your grades were still stellar anyway

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't, though. I think I have enough connections now that I'll be able to move up in some capacity without grad school

But re: grades, that’s why I’m bitter! I could’ve slacked off so much more! But I wouldn’t have…

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by mysterui on Dec 9, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

sucker!

actually someone here take a shot at my gpa

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 9, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

this.

Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?

by SleepyCA on Dec 9, 2011 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

GPA Matters Mostly For First Job

I’d say the GPA matters more for the first job and getting into the work force. After that, it’s how you do on the job. I’m convinced that to advance at work, you either need to be a technical whiz kid or a personality kid.

Although Steve Jobs actually did ask job applicants their GPA long after college graduation since he figured intelligence mattered.

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 9, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, because the bare minimum often misses the mark by a minimum

but still misses
and you never know when some asshat or grad school will want to see your gpa

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by d-dee on Dec 9, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

this should have ended up below the original comment

but sbn coders do the bare minimum too

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by d-dee on Dec 9, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

trying to prove a point here, pj

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by d-dee on Dec 9, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

ahahahahahahahha …hahahhahahahah…. hahah…ahhhh

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions   5 recs

pretty much this

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 8, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

oh i know.

its just funny how off law school is from law practicing

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Not always.

The book I’m currently studying is about primitive quasi-legal procedure in the early Anglo-Saxon tribes in England. Oh, wait.

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Dec 9, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm surprised you say this.

I use fed courts, conflict of laws, civ pro, con law, contracts, torts, remedies, etc. every day.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 9, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

it is worth it

Do it because you can
Do it for yourself
Do it for torty!

by lauderdale on Dec 8, 2011 11:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Pride

Work hard because you can

RE-SIGN EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Dec 8, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

no

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

so i compromised and got pei wei but got steamed chicken and no rice.

some things are not meant to be eaten healthily.

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

yeah i am reading that

he just came out of nowhere ad started antagonizing cards fans

by Wombat x on Dec 8, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been staying away from my timeline for this reason

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by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I usually agree with Bernie

but with this whole Pujols situation it seems like he expects Cardinal nation to have no emotions over this whole deal and its starting to piss me off

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 8, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a smart guy

But…

1. I don’t see where Cards fans are really overreacting all that badly on the whole. There aren’t Cleveland levels of self loathing taking place here, even if Burwell and national guys desperately want to create that narrative.

2. Albert set a certain expectation with comments over several years that he decided not to follow. Athletes throw their fans these verbal bouquets all the time, but you have to expect people to throw it back in their face a little bit when they don’t follow through.

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 9, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

he's always been a dick

just because he is sabr oriented doesn’t remove him from being an asshole. i’ve never liked his writing or his opinions.

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

also, goold is awesome

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't understand sheehan's argument at all

he seems to be saying that because the cardinals drafted pujols and eventually signed an extension with him, that pujols had no choice in the matter they shouldn’t expect he remain there. which is great and all except it directly counters statements by pujols himself, and the fact that legacy is a factor for baseball players.

not only that, but the idea that the extension was for ‘financial security’ is total bullshit. sure he got security at the time, but there is no way he wasn’t getting a $50+m deal on the open market (even with hypothetical mediocre seasons in 04-06). His arbitration proposal after 03 was 12.5 million dollars for fucks sake, and that was the first time he had even gone to arbitration!

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

his last tweet is also ridiculous.

“fans get mad when players don’t do what they want them to do”
it has more to do with expectations. i don’t see brewers fans getting pissed off at fielder for leaving. it was expected. they all want him there, yet they are not angry.

pujols had said time and again he wanted to be a lifer, yet for ‘a few million a year’ (something he distinctly said he wouldn’t skip town for) he peaced out.

fuck sheehan, he’s always been a self righteous tool on a high horse.
now i gotta go smoke a cig to calm myself down

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

smoke a few man, i'm about to go have some too

i don’t understand what he’s saying at all. i think he’s pissed & just wants to fight. i used to like him but now i don’t know

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

No, he's right. MLB has a protected monopoly that allows it to completely underpay players until the reach FA.

It’s completely unfair to drafted players, and minor league players to some extent. Pujols had very little choice in who drafted him, and therefore who he signed with, for how much, etc. He’s absolutely right about the extension. Sure the MLBPA does a lot to protect major league players, but amateurs yet to be drafted aren’t in the union yet so they get screwed every time.

Now, I don’t see why Sheehan thinks that should preclude Cards fans from being upset, but he’s right about the other stuff. ‘Bert said it wouldn’t be about $3-4M per year, and that’s exactly what it was about. Nobody should be surprised that upset Cards fans. In that respect, he’s kind of being a dick.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he means to be -- the draft and amateur player negotiating rights has long been a pet talking point of his.

He has said he thinks they should do away with the draft at least once before. Sucks for us that he’s using this as a vehicle to illustrate his point, but he’s right. He could show some more sympathy though, that’s for sure.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

strauss-ing
“or”? RT @mww0f5 you are either very sarcastic or pompous to the highest degree, which is it?
I got quite a lesson tonight in the freedom people feel to say anything they care to on the Internet. God help us.

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

The first is a joke about the names he gets called. "Surely I'm both."

I don’t have a problem with the second. I’m sure he pissed off a lot of people that responded with ignorant name calling.

Calling him Strauss seems harsh. Strauss regularly belittles people that have any sabermetric inclinations. I don’t think Sheehan has done anything comparable.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

What did he say about the extension?

Albert signed that willingly.

#HappySeason #SadOffSeason

by The Continental on Dec 9, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

that it wasn't willingly because his choice was

financial security vs uncertainty

neglects to mention that his arbitration value, in his first year, would’ve been approaching $11 million

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Right, but if he blows his elbow out or his production drops off

Or a foul ball hits him in the face, or any other injury or accident he loses several tens of millions of dollars. It’s an unfair system when you’re not a FA.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure it is, but he also could've signed a shorter deal for likely the exact same AAV

and guaranteed himself financial security. No one forced him to sign a 7+1 year deal. He could have bought out his arbitration years, guaranteed financial security, and still been able to hit the open market as a FA.

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

because really, if 4 years $50 million isn't financial security, then what is?

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

We can speculate, but we don't really know if a 4 year offer was on the table

or would have been accepted by the club. Pre-FA players don’t have much leverage, that’s true.

#HappySeason #SadOffSeason

by The Continental on Dec 9, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure there are any number of ways he could have negotiated the contract.

But I’m pretty sure if he wanted fewer years the Cardinals would have paid him less in that instance. In exchange for taking on the risk of him getting injured, Pujols gives up some salary postponed free agency.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel like I'm debating a topic I don't believe in

I agree with everything you have been saying.
My main problem with Sheehan was how he was ignoring everything Pujols had said, while at the same time making it appear as black vs white when it comes to the extension Pujols signed. For whatever reason I think he was deliberately trying to get a rise out of people so that he could harp on his pre-Arb argument.

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I tweeted him about it and I thought he was fairly reasonable.

Here’s his final response

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw that and I believe he is correct

On the other hand, Pujols built such a perception of himself as a never-wrong-do’er that I’m sure most fans felt like he wouldn’t lie ever.

There really is no reason for him to say otherwise though, why make yourself out as a villian while you are is still playing.

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

He could have not said anything.

Not addressed it, said he didn’t want to talk about it, etc. It seems like he really went out of his way to talk about it, but maybe that’s the confirmation bias talking. Anyway, I’m sick of it for tonight. I retain my rights to gripe and mope in the future.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha, True that.

Everyone here needs to go to bed so I have no distractions for this term paper due tomorrow.

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

i was expecting the place to die down by 1

whatever, i planned on being up all night anyway.

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:39 AM EST up reply actions  

this is late night VEB

it used to be way cooler before everyone got married.

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I do not want kids ever...

Azru has it right when it comes to this.

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

i was just not meant to be a dad

i know that & have taken big hits because of that but it’s for the best.

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 2:46 AM EST up reply actions  

unfortunately i only started lurking in 2010

and missed out on the heyday of late night veb

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

those were the days

when VEB knew way less about me, and twitter wasn’t popular here.

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not the same though

I miss old VEB

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 2:47 AM EST up reply actions  

it represented a better time

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I started in 08

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

end of 08

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

that when I knew way less about sabermetrics and did photoshops to compensate

when VEP would curse all the time to release his built up frustration of being a baseball statitician prodigy.
when GDM would comment 24/7
when Cardball told us tales of his sources not to be named
when ducttape used to comment everyday
and other stuff

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 2:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember VexxedTechie doing a lot of photoshops too

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I had no idea how to argue with sabermetrics so I tried to steal his thing to fit in. IT WORKED!!!

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Y2 has taken over the 24/7 commenting

i’ve been sad & stuff hence the pull back

plus twitter. i can say a lot more stuff on there i can’t say here anymore.

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

like what?

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 3:06 AM EST up reply actions  

like going off on people

you can’t do that here anymore

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:11 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL too true

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:13 AM EST up reply actions  

or fang

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 3:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Also true

Or Rui’s mom

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:15 AM EST up reply actions  

did you just call them names?

I usually just like to tell them what they’re saying is wrong and they’ll be the ones to usually start throwing out names first.

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 3:20 AM EST up reply actions  

i used the term fucktard, apparently you can't do that

i also got yelled at for wishing death on strauss & saying fuck too much or telling people to fuck off or something. i forget

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:25 AM EST up reply actions  

sometimes people here can be overly sensitive about stuff

better that than a constant trollfest like the last board i frequented.

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 3:28 AM EST up reply actions  

i totally agree there has to be rules

i just don’t think wishing strauss’s death should be against them. haha

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:31 AM EST up reply actions  

eh we allow that then we're probably

opening a gate where we wish death threats of umps and aaron miles.

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 3:33 AM EST up reply actions  

why must i live in world where i can't

with the death of aaron miles playing career?

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:35 AM EST up reply actions  

ehh life vs. playing career is different

wish for an injury is cutting it close though,

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 3:37 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't think you should wish for injuries

especially after seeing what happened with him & juan encareasadastake

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:39 AM EST up reply actions  

eh, i don't know man

i don’t even know which mod was upset about it, they never said just told me to tone it back

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:30 AM EST up reply actions  

right there with you kiddo

sadly all good things must come to an end

hence today’s very sad news

dammit why can’t i stop crying????

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

If anyone else remembers this meme,

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 8, 2011 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

He not gonna be number five anymore?

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

huh

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Dec 8, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

for the right price!

/meaning large overpay

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I assumed that was the joke

Zdle;liasgyk has to go on the record every 2 months saying, no, guys, Felix is still not available.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 9, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Hate to See Albert Pujols Gone But At Least He Didn't Go to Team I Hate

Hate to See Albert Pujols Gone But At Least He Didn’t Go to Team I Hate. It will seem different in St. Louis w/o him. Agreed with the bullet point in the last thread on both sides doing the right thing but making a mistake.

At least he didn’t go to any of the Cards’ arch-rivals, like the Brewers, Reds, Pirates, or Mets. Yes, I still hate the Mets even though they’re in the other division. And at least they didn’t go to the Marlins, who’ve signed every free agent in site and are a thorn in the side of my other favorite NL team, the Nationals. And didn’t go to the Yankees who are obnoxious. At least the Angels are a team I’ve liked in the past over the years, on and off.

Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.

by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2011 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

should i bother getting a twitter

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

Yes

Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A

by cardinalswsbound on Dec 8, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

its not a bother at all

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Dec 8, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmm...the scouts thing is intriguing

but can’t i just get one of you people to do it

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 8, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

wat

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Dec 9, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

yes

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually like new Twitter

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

The new iPhone app is terrible, it's basically letterboxed there's so much of a border.

Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A

by cardinalswsbound on Dec 9, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't like the border; like that I can see who retweeted me

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

it was just alarming

all it seems like they did was switch the columns to the other side and move some buttons around

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

neither has mine

they’re keeping us out Cody!!!

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Dec 9, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe the tyler greene one is different.

i didn’t know you had a twitter

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

just for spying

not for actual tweeting

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Dec 9, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

you know what's annoying

when someone with protected tweets follows you and then declines to accept your follow request. uh

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

I'm not sure what the word for that is, but it's definitely not sensible behavior.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Why I don't have a Facebook. Or friends. Or parents.

Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A

by cardinalswsbound on Dec 9, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

/turns around again, waves at Cody again

Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A

by cardinalswsbound on Dec 9, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

robin

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 9, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

You don't have any friends, huh?

Thanks a lot.

- VEB

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

i mean ones real life, when my dad got sick they all bailed

i had about 15 people i thought were friends for life & they all bailed. selfish bastards. only one dude kept up with me & was supportive. but he got married three years ago & lives in Ky so i never see or talk to him anymore. we tweet each other every once in a while but that’s it.

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, that sucks man.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Tried to find a Seinfeld clip for this and failed. Damn.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

actually Scrubs work best

people are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Totally used that in my post-Pujols fb status today.

As well as the clip from the Star Wars prequel of Obi Wan yelling “YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!”

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:34 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

haha. love the star wars reference.

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Someone made it on here earlier like 10 threads ago when we first found out about this.

Too good to not steal.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Baseball>that Canadian sport

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Reply fail

Because the Blues beat the Ducks, they have to give us Pujols

RE-SIGN EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Dec 9, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

i bet he doesn't put us on his

will-wave-ntc-for-trade-to list

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by d-dee on Dec 9, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Preview of a FanPost I'm working on titled "The Albert Contract Saga on Film:"

“He’s more maching now than man, twisted and evil.”

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 12:16 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

At the end does he come back and play one last season with us

So he can see the house that he built one last time, with his own eyes?

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably something like that.

I’ll finish it up after I finish my lit theory final.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I think people would read it.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd probably read it, depending on length.

Heck, I don’t even want to know how many thousands of comments I read on here the last few days.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Might not read it until after break starts on the 15th then.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Break from school

Way behind on all my work this week.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

In February.

Getting the Master’s degree. And took 5 years for the BA. And a year of work after.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Economics! I’m pretty heavily considering getting the PhD, but I’m starting to think I should take at least a year off to see what the private sector is like and maybe pay off some debt.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

damn, VEB is full of math peeps, pay off all the debt you can dude, trust me

also even though you seem really happy i just followed you on twitter

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha I saw that, thanks!

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

follow back jerk or else!

or else could mean anything but 99% of the time means nothing

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 2:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Was already following.

Yea, now what?
/it’s cool.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

idk, didn't want to publicly reveal my real name

but Clank outed me the other day. But mostly I just didn’t want to peer pressure you into it. Seems kind of silly now. Anyway, don’t worry about it cuz you’re not missing much. Just a bunch of RTs mostly.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:59 AM EST up reply actions  

you should have @ at me then

i follow all VEB’ers, even if the jerks like frits unfollow me

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, I was being shy.

I’ve been doing more lurking than commenting since like early 2010.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:08 AM EST up reply actions  

don't be shy, you'll never get laid being shy

it’s just twitter, it’s not like it’s serious business

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:13 AM EST up reply actions  

How do I have 181 followers?

that’s too many!

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 3:21 AM EST up reply actions  

i have like 100

i should have a 1000 but i don’t care. it’s not like i base my whole existence & self esteem on how many strangers follow my crazy angry tweets

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:14 AM EST up reply actions  

btw i don't know if fink is still around BUT...

i think i set up our playoffs to where we re-seed after the play in round. so you’ll get the lowest seed remaining.

getting back to the simple life

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

I can't wait to read Joe Posnanski's take

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

He probably didn't notice the happenings...

too busy making excuses for Paterno.

Sign Roy O

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Mainly because Posnanski has refused to have it.

For all the tongue baths Poz gets around here, he surely shouldn’t get off the hook for this.

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by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked his write up

but considering the emotional nature of the subject matter I am not surprised that Posnanski caught some blowback for what he wrote

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

is that what you took from his write up?

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much...

I don’t want to strip all the nuance out of his opinion, but he went way soft on Paterno, which is kind of mindblowing to me.

Sign Roy O

by guayzimi on Dec 9, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

That was how it read to me but I am neutral on Poz.

Maybe slightly negative on him because I don’t understand the fandom around his writing.

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by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

he is a consumate sentimentalist now I wonder why that

doesn’t appeal to you? hmmmmm

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

robots are anti sentimental heartless bastards

i’m not calling Az a bastard so don’t ban me bro

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

To be fair he wrote a "I feel conflicted" story in his immediate response

I imagine he will be more in depth later and likely more harsh, I kind of felt the way he did in that I don’t know exactly what happened, who knew what, or to what extent and that a guy who spent 60 years making that university his life probably deserves the time to let all the facts come out before you make him the personification of the evil that occurred

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Only semi-related but if you

want to read some crazy shit from a community that is generally well-reasoned, start reading the comments on this post at Tangotiger’s site. They are horrifying.

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by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Alternate

thread of horror

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by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

What a terrible commenting system

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by mysterui on Dec 9, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

We are also spoiled here at SBN

but yes, generally not a good system.

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by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it's good for serious discussions

where each post is several paragraphs long. It’s not good for the type of commenting we do here.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont think those were that bad

I only read the first 20 or so.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the alternate thread of horror is worse.

Basically ctrl+f ‘wexler’ and then read any non-vitriolic response. There is some messed up decision making being described in there. . .

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by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked Rally's comment

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

this is really creepy
Notably, one boy who was uncomfortable with the initial touching in the shower walked away. That ended the contact and Sandusky never contacted him again. Another was seen walking hand in hand with Sandusky after receiving oral sex from him. One passage mentions a boy resisting Sandusky’s attempts at manual penetration & it appears that Sandusky did not proceed after. There is no mention in the indictment of sexual acts occurring after a boy has said "no" or "stop," of crying or screaming, or of bleeding, bruising, or marks that indicate physical violence or pain being inflicted.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

the whole thing just makes me want to scrub my skin with steel wool

what a horrific situation.

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by azruavatar on Dec 9, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, the descriptions are very disturbing

But I don’t think Wexler comes off so bad. His argument has some logic behind it, it’s just ridiculously contrary and is out of touch with human gut emotions.

That being said I think our outrage towards child rapists is a little disproportionate to how damaging the crime actually is. We treat those guys worse than Hitler.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Uh

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Twitter

by mysterui on Dec 9, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

look all he is saying is cut the child rapists a little slack

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude...

“Dude. You have sex with children! I mean, we believe in equality for everybody, and tolerance, and all that gay stuff, but dude – fuck you!”

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You guys are just jealous because I have mature friends

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Screw you guys-

I’m goin home.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

"I am 8 inches"

dude eight inches is tiny “Sorry I do not like midgets :( they piss me off”

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

it is the innocence of the victim that sparks the outrage

as adults we can all see shades of grey in our behaviors, when someone is incapable of consent it magnifies the crime.

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I definitely agree with that

But I think we’re overstating that magnification. For one, no one is completely innocent. I’m sure 12 year old’s have some knowledge of sex and its implications, I definitely did when I was 12. Furthermore, I’m not sure corrupting innocence is as big a deal as we think it is. It’s certainly enormously tragic, but so are many things that happen on a daily basis which we don’t pay much attention to.

Lets just stop talking about this.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes

We send 400K+ people to their death to try to stop one of them. Just like we did with Hitler.

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 9, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Uh, I don't think our stopping of Hitler had much to do with his crimes against humanity

It was more a tactical decision.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok

Just admit it was a little bit too hyperbolic of a way to make a point, and we’ll still meet at the obsolete screenname convention next month with IHB.

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to speak for VEP, but I think it was more in comparison to how people treat/talk about Hitler today.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah and it was obvioulsy hyperbolic

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

The crime itself is pretty awful.

I haven’t studied the psychology of pedophiles or anything, but I suspect one must be a little messed up in the head to be into that sort of thing. I don’t think it’s the same as a malicious crime like murder. Which is kind of what makes the Penn St. thing so awful — the PSU administrators didn’t have to fight any temptations or inappropriate urges. They just had to report what happened, and they chickened out, to put it lightly.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Penn State's reaction was ridiculous

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I have literally had tears rolling down my cheeks when I

have read about it, I don’t know who I feel worse for the kids who wanted the attention(imagine the hellhole their life has been) or the kids who didn’t and got it anyways.

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

What the fuck, Wexler

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by mysterui on Dec 9, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

it is the sort of thing people write about how they would theoretically

handle a situation, put that guy in a jury box while some poor kid spills his guts and he would have pitch fork out in no time

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

He hasn't written anything since the Penn State stuff has he?

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by mysterui on Dec 9, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah his most recent was on santo

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by TomCat009 on Dec 9, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

joe sheehan, too.

"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."

-the red baron

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

They both have some points, even if they are being a bit crass.

But they’re not necessarily talking to you or I. They’re addressing the P-D poster types, I suspect.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe Sheehan does have valid points

but he is essentially trolling, which is pretty pathetic given his stature as a national baseball writer at SI and BP. Especially when it is directed at a franchise that just lost the best player of a generation -one of the best in the past 40 years, even. Does he really expect everyone to be an emotionless psychopath?

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, idk why all the national writers seem to engage in that nonsense.

Apparently it’s hard for them to ignore it all, which is what I hope I would do.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

from your lips to the GOB's ears

i wonder what they have to say about this? does this upset them or are they happy about it?

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

goddamnit gdm

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

i went to the store earlier

thought about getting some cookies or something

then remember what happened last time i bought cookies

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

OMG that's terrible

what was wrong with his brother?

holy crap

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

omg, thank you for posting this

I feel so much better.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Ps that Star Wars kid really let himself go.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Went out earlier to get a dozen donuts, a pint of ice cream, baileys, and chocolate milk.

To me pounds, to me!

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Neopolitan ice cream

glazed, chocolate, chocolate filling, raspberry filling for donuts.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not my usual. Dunno why I picked it.

But I’m pretty non adventurous with ice cream flavors ( and in general). Chocolate like 9 out of 10 times, yet I somehow spend like 5 minutes looking at every flavor.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

there's chocolate, chocolate fudge, triple chocolate brownie, chocolate chunk

chocolate double fudge brownie

starbucks mocha frap

i am all about the chocolate. i only eat strawberry in the summer

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 2:32 AM EST up reply actions  

When I was a kid I would eat chocolate chocolate chip with chocolate syrup.

I tend to always eat the same things for whatever reason. Ham and cheese omelettes are a common breakfast, and I always get the BBQ chicken pizza at CPK.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:37 AM EST up reply actions  

For realsies.

I tried to force myself to try other menu items, but it wasn’t the same.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Nobody knows.

Though removing Martinelli’s Apple Juice really threw me for a loop. Saves me money when I drink water though.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Never liked tea, and they have Pepsi instead of Coke.

And damn is soda expensive at real restaurants.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:00 AM EST up reply actions  

i like Pepsi more than Coke, which is like really bad

my family in Ark hates me for it. along with the fact i dont like to go deer hunting in the woods for days & days in the fall & winter

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Hunting seems like a huge pain in the ass.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:10 AM EST up reply actions  

it is unless you have a trailer

they made me sleep in a tent, in the rain & snow. F that

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously

I did that a bit in the boy scouts as a kid, but I wouldn’t want to do that all the time.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:15 AM EST up reply actions  

my grandpa& uncle had really nice trialers

but they made me sleep outside to “toughen me up good”. so now i hate camping. my form of camping now is staying at a hotel that doesn’t have room service

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:19 AM EST up reply actions  

well fuck.

it’s really hitting me now.
fuuuuuuck

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 9, 2011 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

It was mostly disbelief and shock

I’m glad we didn’t match their offer and I wouldn’t change the way the Cardinals handled it, but watching our Albert become their Pujols is harder than I expected.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 9, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

we got boned man!

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-the red baron

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Today the Cardinals felt what it's like to be Mysterui's mom

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I'm hitting the stages in random order-

started off with anger, but now I refuse to accept that he is gone until he passes his physical. I’m afraid I’m going to be hitting the Pedro Feliz stage sometime soon.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

embrace the pain, hold onto it & never forget this feeling

remember it always when players in the future say the same things he did so you won’t believe their lies

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

there's hundreds upon hundreds of baseball players.

there’s only one albert pujols.

"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."

-the red baron

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think it was more about carving out that national niche

with this story for him, but then I’m just a cynic in general, and especially so with Burwell.

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 9, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

i just mean when people from around the country watch

they will just see “stl reporter” and think his opinions are representative of the city

by Wombat x on Dec 9, 2011 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I know

He’s so out of touch with the overall sentiment on this one, that it could be irritating. I just think it’s more funny than anything. Nobody really has to be the villain, but if there has to be one it sure as hell isn’t the Cardinals.

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 9, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

burwell sucks.

"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."

-the red baron

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah i got through the title before i stopped reading.

"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."

-the red baron

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

i read him once in a blue moon.

the last article i got all the way through was when he slandered somebody. i forgot who it was though.

"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."

-the red baron

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

How do you get inside the bottle?

And how do you get a computer and/or newspaper in there?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Dec 9, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

cute rui.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, as far as Burwell goes, I thought this was pretty good, and expresses quite a bit of my cynicism re: DeWitt et al.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

i decided to read it after seeing your comment

i made it about halfway. this is where i stopped.

“If the Cardinals had truly wanted to re-sign Pujols, they could have accomplished that goal at any point during the past two years.”

right, its that simple. other than the fact that there have been numerous reports that loazno’s starting point was a rod’s contract and this was non negotiable. i guess its just he said she said though at this point.

by Wombat x on Dec 9, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Or even go back three years to the point where Albert would've been likely to outperform

the value of ARod’s deal.

i guess its just he said she said though at this point.

yeah

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"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Shit, now I'm hungry.

What I really need is to go to bed.

#HappySeason #SadOffSeason

by The Continental on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 AM EST reply actions  

yep. my rule is that if i'm hungry after about 11 or so the real answer is to go to bed.

"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."

-the red baron

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

For those depressed fans over the age of 98

PBS is showing Victor Borge. Quite the mood lifter.

by HalfWhitey on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 AM EST reply actions  

Bernie often irks me

But this expresses nearly everything I feel as a Cardinals fan about this deal.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Dec 9, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah me too

but i think he hit it on the head…and big contracts usually dont end well… watching him play 1st last yr his d was slipping so going to AL will help him.

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Dec 9, 2011 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

In the nobody cares category...

the hilarity of the NBA went up exponentially today.

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 1:52 AM EST reply actions  

All we need now is to find out that in fact the season was canceled,

and we just didn’t know it.

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"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Terms of a trade were agreed upon that would've sent Chris Paul to the Lakers

the NBA owns the Hornets, so apparently a group of owners didn’t like the trade (even though it appears fair, and allowed NOLA to begin a process of rebuilding) so Stern essentially vetoed it.

So now NOLA is essentially stuck with Paul for the remainder of the year, because if he were traded anywhere else LA would have a huge beef. Basically, they are going to get nothing from their superstar leaving, when they could’ve had 4 players and a first round draft pick.

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

So, can we steal this precedent,

and have Nolan Ryan nix the Pujols contract?

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

oh it gets better

Paul is considering legal action

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Dec 9, 2011 2:23 AM EST up reply actions  

haha, I didn't know that

just so that the ultimate-casual-nonfan like myself can laugh at the NBA more.

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i'd like to see it happen

should be sandwiched in there somewhere.

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

It might even be a bad trade for the Lakers, tbh.

CP3 is the best player in the trade but Pau and Odom are both really good.

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I've read a couple articles saying the same

I know jack shit about the NBA so I have no opinion.
The players are in the worst position. I can’t imagine being a guy that was traded, only to be forced back to your original team.

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, that does NOT seem fun.

That’s going to be an uncomfortable work atmosphere.

PS — I hope a bunch of people got the Gasol and Odom Lakers jerseys while they were cheap! hahaha ditto CP3 and NOLA

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I lost the link, and IIRC it's unlisted.

Any chance you could repost?

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 2:24 AM EST up reply actions  

gracias

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

this will cheer VEB up

might go to bed so i can have breakfast sooner

by prophetjohn on Dec 9, 2011 2:27 AM EST reply actions  

hahaha

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

up yours! i just got a email from UPS & it said they are returning the package

because they couldn’t get anyone to answer the door. so i’m going to eat all the brownies

now that’s funny

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 2:39 AM EST up reply actions  

well finally there is someone's life worse than yours

mine :(

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

the cheerleaders don't touch me man

the chicks in my shakespeare class on the other hand…

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

...don't either

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 2:54 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

right

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

why would they want a greasy pothead when they have their pick of big black guys?

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 2:59 AM EST up reply actions  

They're racist?

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:00 AM EST up reply actions  

yes

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

reverse racism is the worse kind of racism

and take a f’ing shower so you won’t be so greasy dude.

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:07 AM EST up reply actions  

a shower?

why would he want to do that?

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 3:09 AM EST up reply actions  

he's part fish?

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:10 AM EST up reply actions  

just a waste of time

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 3:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Then you should be set!

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by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:10 AM EST up reply actions  

So the only thing I have to do for tomorrow is finish this spanish paper on cloning

and for the life of me I can’t find the motivation to work on it.

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 2:38 AM EST reply actions  

yeah, i barely got in my final essay in time

it’s so nice to be on break now.

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

my break doesn't start for another week

How did your semester start after mine and still allow you to finish before me?

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 2:43 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm on trimesters

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 2:43 AM EST up reply actions  

when are you due?

(obligatory)

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by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 2:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks like Mattyfrommo is gonna be a grandad

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Damnit, block plan - two more weeks to go...

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm perfectly fine with a long semester...

then again, I hate living at home during break.

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 2:46 AM EST up reply actions  

by the way quick question

so i was asleep when the pujols thing broke, i know the tim brown guys tweet broke it but was there stuff in the early morning about before? i just know as of last night when i went to bed the angels had made an offer but it was reportedly 210 million. did it just go from that to boom he signed or did stuff leak leading up to it?

by Wombat x on Dec 9, 2011 2:43 AM EST reply actions  

Ugh I'm in the same boat.

Woke up at noon and saw my friend had texted, “Sorry dude…”. When I got to VEB BGH’s post was already up.

Totally had gone to sleep thinking he was going to be a Cardinal forever. Last time I’ll ever sleep peacefully.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:46 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

my back meds had me out from 3am till almost 2pm

i looked at my phone & there was a text from d-dee and my heart just sank

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

yea I leapt out of be to the computer like that dude in that Christmas poem.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

This isn't Christmas.

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"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

That it most certainly is not.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

yep woke up to multiple texts and the first one was from an angel fan celebrating

a guy i haven’t even talked to in like a month. so i find out from a guy who is basically a casual/fake angels fan.

by Wombat x on Dec 9, 2011 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude, I lived like the last 20 years 15 min from Angel Stadium.

Tell me about it. 2002 sucked frickin’ ass. Nothing like losing Kile and seeing Rolen’s shoulder get blown up just so you can put up with a bunch of shit talking from sleeper agent Angels fans.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Too effing true.

Been there, it’s crazy. Fun times though. Family friend gave me two tickets to see the Cardinals a couple years back — nice seats too. Waino I think had a no hitter going through 6 or something. then two solo shots to tie it. Pujols stole second in the ninth I think (one night after VinScully had said running was the only thing he couldn’t do) and scored on a sacrifice.

Anyway, not a word from Dodgers fans ALL GAME until the solo shots. One older dude was pretty good natured about it, but these two cross-faded jack asses were super obnoxious. Was glad to shove it in their faces afterward.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:05 AM EST up reply actions  

i have no idea when Dodger fans become so angry

i was always told they were so nice. well at least the ones that stayed past the 7th inning

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:09 AM EST up reply actions  

They were just really rowdy and in my face.

Can’t recall if they said anything personal, but I don’t think so. The stadium is in a bad part of town though.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Kinda.

There’s a reason it’s called Chavez Ravine. Outside the ravine is the middle of LA basically. I’ve never lived there, so idk how it compares to the rest of the city, but it’s definitely not great, and the parking lot is known to be pretty unsafe.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:17 AM EST up reply actions  

they filled the opening scene to the fast & the furious there

it sure looked dangerous if you can’t drive a car fast

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:22 AM EST up reply actions  

haha that blows

i cant handle the untrue fans. you must be miserable with me when things go wrong damnt!

by Wombat x on Dec 9, 2011 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Gots to go pretend like I'm going to get stuff done tonight.

G’night all. Like true procrastinators, we’ll start feeling better tomorrow.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:48 AM EST reply actions  

Ha, try 10 seconds!

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe I can just outline some of it....

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Need browser for works.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:05 AM EST up reply actions  

damn

I wish I could ask the robot to ban me between midnight and 8am just so I can get stuff done.

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 3:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright, now I'm for serious. GOOD NIGHT.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:20 AM EST up reply actions  

So, to try to reboot the mood,

and maybe it’s only good for me because I’ve had a lot of analogous shit in my life the last month or so, but as opposed to the upthread Johnny Cash and Antlers gems, here’s something a little more, if not uplifting or positive, strengthening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkUvKrcKbyA

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 2:56 AM EST reply actions  

Fuck, that definitely doesn't qualify for that- pasted the wrong link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp_IFg-mjyM

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

If you don't know it btw, Next to Normal is a great show.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 3:08 AM EST up reply actions  

why did that sound like glee?

and why the fuck do i know what glee sounds like?

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:32 AM EST up reply actions  

NTN>Glee

I’m not sure if I can think of another musical I would describe as “gritty.”

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 3:48 AM EST up reply actions  

By the way, the board of directors for the Tyler Greene club suck

I’ve spent countless hours tweeting reporters, and emailing others trying to get more mainstream media involved, and the twitter account is becoming a hassle because I don’t know have many ideas besides tweeting quotes about liberty and freedom. The blog is about to hit a snag as my queue is only to the 16th of this month so now I need to write new posts and content.
YOU SUCK STLCARDSFAN04

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 3:05 AM EST reply actions  

where are the club fees I was promised??

The Continental seems to be the only true member of the club.

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 3:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Meant to ask before I go

If I say I wanna join, what am I agreeing to? And can I choose my own title?

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:29 AM EST up reply actions  

What's the difference?

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:32 AM EST up reply actions  

so hows that work going?

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by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 3:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Really well. (not.)

At least i’ve confined myself to this subthread.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:35 AM EST up reply actions  

And I get to choose my title?

I want to be titled Chief Economist, fyi.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Chief Economist is below that, I'm pretty sure.

But sweet, I’m totally in.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:40 AM EST up reply actions  

CFO?

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 3:41 AM EST up reply actions  

No just Chief Economist.

Like Christina Romer or Greg Mankiw or Austan Goolsbee.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Sweet. Off to change the sig!

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Testing.

Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:46 AM EST up reply actions  

don't look now

but we are over 2000 comments by a healthy margin

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 3:17 AM EST reply actions  

ahh... the golden number

can we push it to 3000?

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by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 3:22 AM EST up reply actions  

No, because that makes me think of how many hits I wanted Albert to get as a Cardinal.

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by monkeysareblue on Dec 9, 2011 3:25 AM EST up reply actions  

i was there for #2000!!!!!

…..
:(

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 3:26 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, well, thats just like, your opinion, man.

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 3:30 AM EST up reply actions  

3:28 now...

and I am still awake and upset by this. I think I have abandonment issues or something. Upset is polite way of saying I’m pissed as hell and can’t stop thinking about the good times and god I hate being the dumped gf…

by fuegophil on Dec 9, 2011 3:29 AM EST reply actions  

Gif of the Roethlisberger injury

not embedding it because it would break the thread further
http://i.imgur.com/Eb3YL.gif

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 3:40 AM EST reply actions  

speaking of twitter & followers

who are patttimagee, newlandfamily5, rollbirdsroll, tyler0117, poissonSTL, YadiMo4, ibrdon, Southside_Ray, Supergus68 & tnorrist here at VEB? they all follow me but i don’t know who they are & they all look like VEB’ers

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 3:47 AM EST reply actions  

pattiemagee is pattimagee.

Avatar is brown paper bag wearing glasses. he/she posted in this thread.

Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub

by Cardinals645 on Dec 9, 2011 3:51 AM EST up reply actions  

RollBirdsRoll is

RollBirdsRoll

Has the UofAlabama “A” with the Birds on the Bat avatar.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Dec 9, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

so my roommate went to sleep finally after 9 hours of WOW

I think I should just wake up and finish this paper before class tomorrow. (it’s only the rough draft)

THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!

by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 3:48 AM EST reply actions  

do that

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 3:50 AM EST up reply actions  

does that mean I should go to sleep now?

first class is at 10:30

THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!

by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 3:58 AM EST up reply actions  

FOR SHAME VEB

HOW DARE YOU QUIT

THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!

by CodyG on Dec 9, 2011 4:02 AM EST reply actions  

go to bed

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 9, 2011 4:03 AM EST up reply actions  

i got distracted by a wasted roommate

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 4:14 AM EST up reply actions  

did it die?

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 4:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it being veb, not my roommate

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 5:05 AM EST up reply actions  

alright i gotta bounce & go watch Community

but before i’ll go i just want to say Albert Pujols did not make the Cardinals great. but being a Cardinal helped make Albert Pujols great. life will never be the same for any of us & that’s his decision. he made his bed & now he has to sleep in it. you couldn’t pay me to be him right now. when it hits him how big of a mistake he has made, he’ll realize this was probably the worst mistake of his life & will be the biggest regret of his life.

you’re outside the STL safe zone Albert. hope you’re wearing a cup.

Balls

by gdm426 on Dec 9, 2011 4:23 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

if you post a comment on veb, and no one is there to read it

does y2s still parse it?

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 4:31 AM EST reply actions  

that's unsettling

Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 9, 2011 4:43 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

muhahaha.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 9, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Song on Pandora One soon to expire..like everything good in life

I’m having trouble counting the stacks but damn is my typing awesome. Anyway, was deciding to go to bed and this is what came on my Pandora station. Woo hoo. Thought it was appropriate for 5 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVgPUyByk8U

I Ain’t Gonna Suffer no More – John Lee Hooker

fuck shit, and stuff.

by leefyg on Dec 9, 2011 5:49 AM EST reply actions  

yep. still depressed

Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero Saint Louis deserves, but not the one it has the money for right now.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 9, 2011 8:45 AM EST reply actions  

You either die a Cardinal, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.

Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero Saint Louis deserves, but not the one it has the money for right now.

by letsgostlcardinals on Dec 9, 2011 9:29 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

I close VEB at 9pm last night

And 12 hours later…1100 new comments. Really?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Dec 9, 2011 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

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