We'll miss you Pujols, but Beltran/Furcal are nice consolation
We as Cardinal Nation will miss Albert Pujols greatly. The team lucked out in extreme fashion by drafting Pujols and giving him an opportunity at the major league level in 2001. The start of a decade + bargain Hall of Fame production. Cardinals fans were very spoiled, and eventually it had to end. Depressingly enough, it happened before he was able to retire a Cardinal. Albert was swept off his feet by the Cali Angels, stolen right away from the Cardinals of StL.
Now I don't blame the guy, but it was at least somewhat surprising to me how it went down. On a gut level, just that he wouldn't return because of the money (even though the Cardinals did offer him quite a bit). On a cerebral level, that the Angels would offer one player that much in the latter part of his career. We've all thought about this for long enough now, and it's not what I wanted to write about.
What Pujols did as a Cardinal is difficult to comprehend. He lead the National League in baseball reference WAR from 2005 to 2010. That's six years straight! He also lead the league in 2003. In '03, '06, '08, and '09 Albert was #1 in MLB in bWAR. Considering fWAR, Pujols leads by far from 2001 to 2011. His total is over 12 WAR higher than the next best, Alex Rodriguez. Lance Berkman and Carlos Beltran are 3rd and 4th during this timespan.
As for traditional stats, Albert had an even higher batting average than Ichiro from 2001 to 2011. Pujols had 1,329 RBI as a Cardinal... by far the most of any player. He also scored the most runs: 1,291 runs! Ichiro and Jeter are the only two even close. The end of an era also saw the most home runs in those 11 years. The Machine eliminated 445 pitches, many of them laser beams or absolute bombs.
But that era is over. The Cardinals said no way Jose Alberto Pujols; ten years at $25 million a year was just a bit too much. Instead, the ballclub has brought Rafael Furcal back into the fold, and has now signed Carlos Beltran to chip in on outfield duties (if not start almost every game). I think we can expect at least 2 fWAR from Furcal, and around 3.5 from Beltran.
Granted, Pujols could pretty easily outdo that 5.5 total next year. The decider here is Furcal... he also could pretty easily surpass 2 WAR. The key for Furcal is if he can raise his on base percentage and sustain some level of what he can do on defense. So perhaps the total is more like around 6 total. Pujols will have to have a nice bounceback season to significantly surpass Beltran and Furcal... who command less money as a combo than Albert.
Of course the main benefit is that the Cardinals avoided all the overpaid decline years beyond next year. The question of competing in 2012 is a different one, though. If they could do it last year, there is no reason the chances would be significantly less going forward with Adam Wainwright returning, and not much loss of production due to Pujols departure. Given the free agent market, signing Beltran and Furcal is a major win for Mo. His depth signings have been bad, but more importantly he successfully maneuvered the big deals.
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Still think somewhere in the highest branches of the Cards' nest lurked the suspicion that APU's AGE was greater than the sum. . .
. . . of his birth-certificate years. Suddenly the departure becomes a bit more understandable on Clark Street. . . . and more palatable in VEB
As ever, thanks for the provocative posts.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
No prob!
Gotta keep polishing my writing skills in the unlikely event i may someday get a job doing this
/wishful thinking
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 24, 2011 10:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Good luck in the Year of theDragon. . .
Your art, wit, research and writing are much admired. Keep them going. . . please
Adultery is the application of democracy to love.
H. L. Mencken
I think everything turned out for the best.
I will miss Albert and it would have been awesome watching him hit all the milestones in a Cardinal uniform. But as soon as he wanted 10 years it no longer made sense for the Cardinals to partake. They tried anyway and I give them credit for that.
I have been reading over at Halo Heaven(?) and they have outlined the marketing case for Pujols in Anaheim. It’s a bit of a risk for that team but the payoff if it works is huge. They have no team identity from a marketing perspective. They feel that Pujols can give them instant credibility. And draw in many more patrons from the latino community. Steal fans away from the Dodgers who are struggling. And even if his performance drops off he will still be hitting milestones in an Angels uniform. They can market that. They are not considered a good draw team when visiting other AL cities. That will change.
The Cardinals do not need any of that. They are a storied franchise without Albert. They evaluated the situation, went above and beyond and in the end made the right decision. And I guess Albert made the right decision too. They are going to turn him into the face of the franchise. I hope that works out for all of them. We know how surly Albert can get.
And I am very happy about the additional signings for the Cardinals. We got maybe a 4/5 “Pujols” for a short term contract. Maybe even a “Pujols” equivalent. Depends on what kind of year they both have.
So now that the pain has gone away, I’m happy.
"Carpe diem! Rejoice while you are alive; enjoy the day; live life to the fullest; make the most of what you have. It is later than you think." ~ Horace
Agreed
Thanks for the insights
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 24, 2011 10:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah, I agree too.
It’s going to be interesting watching the Angels franchise from afar.
For some unknown reason, back when I was in either early high school or late grade school, I adopted the Angels as my favorite American League team. This also came at a time when the Cardinals weren’t very good, so I spent a lot of time watching sportscenter and checking box scores for the Angles results. They had Chili Davis, Devon White, Mark Langston, Chuck Finley, Jim Abbott, Bert Blylevin, Lance Parrish, Dick Schofield, Wally Joyner, Dante Bichette, and probably a whole bunch of other guys I thought were a lot better than they really were.
Anyway, I’ve always held on to that and rooted for the Angels when they’d make the playoffs or just in general when they were on tv or something.
Well, not anymore. It’s not out of spite, really. Just that I can’t support or wish Albert Pujols well anymore. He left my favorite team so I hope he fails just as I hope all teams fail (and now even the Angels).
I’m actually fine with him moving on and am somewhat relieved that I don’t have to watch him decline and fool myself that there’s more there, that I used to see, than there is in reality.
I truly believe, from a legacy standpoint, he made a big mistake. That was up to him though, and if money and a virtual hand job from an owner he’s never even met means more to him than his legacy and the adoration or millions of Cardinal fans, then he means the same to me.
He made it into a “business decision”, now he’ll have to live with it. I’m sure ultimately he’ll be fine. As will we.
I, much like I imagine Chris Carpenter feels, don’t give a fuck about Albert Pujols anymore.
And I’m cool with it.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
well said
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"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 25, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
worth repeating:
“we know how surly Albert can get”
In the long run, Pujols will miss out on us more than we will miss out on him.
Youre welcome
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 25, 2011 11:36 AM EST via Android app up reply actions

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