Friday Morning Thread: Shelby Miller Timing
by DanUpBaby on Dec 2, 2011 9:01 AM EST
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PrintI like the question raised in this Post-Dispatch headline, although Shelby Miller's arrival—the question, if you don't want to click through to four paragraphs of Larry Borowsky—is probably not actually coming in 2012, if all goes according to plan, unless the Cardinals plan on doing the David Price thing.
More important, for me, is what the Cardinals will get out of the talent they do expect to bring up this year, because at this moment—starting David Freese and David Freese's 2011 understudy, Daniel Descalso, using Tyler Greene as the beard for a shortstop situation that's exactly as unsettled as it was at this point last year—they're expecting a lot out of them.
Let me be the first person to say this really obvious thing this month: The Cardinals' success in 2012 will be extremely dependent on players who could be replacement level types or league average types. Not just Descalso, but Matt Carpenter, a cast of a thousand relief pitchers—the Cardinals succeeded in 2011 because those guys were almost uniformly outstanding. The most exposed Memphis type who wasn't perfectly fine at his position was Mark Hamilton, who hit .213 over 51 plate appearances.
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Maikel Cleto was "outstanding" in 2011?
I must have missed it.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
In the minors he was damn good
He kicked ass in A+ and AA, and then held his own in Memphis. His stats don’t look very impressive but they were above average. For example, StatCorner pegs his tRA at Memphis at 5.46, but the league average tRA is 6.01 (when did that league become a hitter’s paradise? I thought that was AA).
I mean, he spent something like four innings in the majors as the “break glass in case of roster emergency” kind of call-up, right? And even in those four bad innings he still struck out a billion people (and walked two-thirds of a billion).
but can he grow a mustache while spinning?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Well said, bobo.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I might have overstated how good he was in the other levels
but his tRA+ numbers on StatCorner were in the 120s and 130s I think. That strikes me as pretty good. Also, there was a pretty decent gap between his tRA and tRAr in Memphis, but not really at A+ and AA.
I don't know about over-stated
I’m all for giving the kid a healthy dose of leeway. He got bounced all over hell and back this season and held up fairly well. Even when he was looking like a fish out of water in his cups of coffee, he was still pretty impressive with what he did correctly.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Hard to hammer a 21-22yo with a high 90's(potential 100mph) fastball
too hard, especially when he has just changed systems
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Yeah, I keep forgetting just how young he is
I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t sounding like I think he’s a top 20 prospect in baseball or something. And also I don’t know how to interpret “plus” stats like tRA+ for minor leaguers as well as I do for major leaguers.
all projections are generalizations
and MLB is about specifics so while MiLB perfomance can by somewhat predictive. I would put more emphasis on talent and skillset than on results.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
If he fixes his problems, he'll be an awesome starter.
If he doesn’t completely fix them, he could potentially still be a pretty good reliever.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Honestly,
until he just falls apart completely, I get goosebumps seeing that ball just jump out of his hand. Holy shit that’s impressive.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I think so. I'll let you know when I see him in St.Louis.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Heh
What are people going to do if they both make it to the big leagues and we see their fastballs all the time? Watching them pitch could become like cocaine on our senses. Everything else just wouldn’t be as awesome anymore.
No. You hated his defense because it was world-class bad.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Dec 2, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Without McClellan, Lohse, and Westbrook around,
the effect will be exponentially greater. We will come to expect electric fastballs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That is possibly a fantastic scenario waiting to happen.
Matheny calls the BP: “Get the fireballer up.”
Lilliquist:“Hell, skip, you gotta be more specific.”
/towel
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
have we learned nothing? if the order is unclear,
Lance Lynn warms up.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 2, 2011 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 10 recs
It's never too soon for Lynn to be warming up.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
should be green
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
In Cleto short cup of coffee in the majors
His FB averaged 98.4 with his super small sample would lead all the majors.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 2, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
He's younger than Aroldis Chapman.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
mattbobo,
please explain this tweet by Jon Heyman from last night:
its been quite a day for the #bobos
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 9:28 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
*mattybobo
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Hm. I am at a loss to explain this.
However, Twitter is the official “say untrue things about mattybobo” medium, so skepticism is warranted.
Ha ha, you drink Pepsi!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 2, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Lies! I drink Coca-Cola, take it back!
Also, I just discovered this: http://twitter.com/mattybobo which is definitely not me (unless I have a sleep-walking alter-ego of which I was previously unaware, who is a freelance filmmaker and picture researcher, whatever that is).
And since it’s not a fake Twitter account it means I’m really not the only mattybobo anymore.
I'm in a long running fantasy baseball league with a mattybobo from the Bostone area.
There are at least three mattybobo’s out there.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
...there are more of you out there?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Yet in the end
there can be only one.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
But listen, and understand:
more mattybobos are out there…
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Bostone sounds much cooler than Boston.
I’m going to start saying that. Thanks typo!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Does it sound cooler than the Mighty Mighty Bosstones?
by mattybobo on Dec 2, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's the impression that I get.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Dec 2, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yo D-Dee (or others)
Can you link drop your 2010 retrospective fanpost?
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Yep
Thanks. They will be getting added to the front page sidebar.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Dec 2, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Heh.
(Please note that these fanposts are extremely browser intensive.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
this amateur post?
yep, that’s the one
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
Just so you know
you’ve now created an air of expectation. Best get to planning the 2012 post now.
[Also, I swear I’m going to finish the VEB Guide to the Lou before the next season starts. It will happen.]
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
the notes on 2012 have already been started
but if i underperform, it’ll be your fault
(btw, vep swears he’ll finish the penny pitch fx any day now)
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Dec 2, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 12 recs
can the penny f/x get added to the sidebar?
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
You didn't do one in 2009, did you?
You joined late that year but I don’t want to miss one if you did.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
i am in support of this.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
balls were dropped no one wants to remember
so we’re just gonna stay away from 2009
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
Is it just me or does this comment
really just say it all? I mean, how much more descriptive can you be than “balls were dropped”. Sounds like jr high all over again.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
More like junior high English class with that clumsy use of passive voice.
by mattybobo on Dec 2, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
President Reagan on Iran-Contra: "Mistakes were made."
Not political. Historical. In the passive voice.
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
This statement strikes me as vaguely Hemingway-esque.
“Balls were dropped no one wants to remember, so we’re just going to stay away from 2009.”
Isn’t it pretty to think so?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 2, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
this is the meme that never dies
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Well
You could just finish the Penny Pitch F/X Fanpost….
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Someday he's gonna do it
And it’ll be like that time Carp hit a grand slam.
by mattybobo on Dec 2, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
in the same way
this is an amateur shortstop play
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
btw, after dec 15, someone remind me to go back into this post and host and relink
all the videos fsnmw killed
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
i don't know what they do with them, i guess they expire after so long on the fsnmw website, but i got them
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I think you might be the patron saint for VEB
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Dec 2, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
well, i got all caught up in this
so i just redid the links for the boog and bombs show
if anyone wants to take a look and let me know if something is not working, go ahead
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
Alright
It’s mainpaged now. I’ll add future ddee collections to it.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
why would the marlins sink 15.5% of their payroll into a closer?
is this all about drawing crowds to the new stadium or what’s happening?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
That percentage will soon be declining it would appear...
they appear to be serious about signing Reyes.
Sign Roy O
well, where is this money coming from all of a sudden?
do they project so much more revenue from the new place?
that’s quite the gamble
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
It's coming from the taxpayers of southern Florida...
not sure how high their payroll can reasonably be expected to go…
Sign Roy O
Jeff Loria saw how successful McCourt and Wilpon were
and is looking to mimic it.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
He's also not afraid to have a huge fire sale
and liquidate an existing team to start building for the next team. They don’t have a traditional fanbase, so people are only going to show up when the win anyway.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
He ran the Expos into the ground and was rewarded by getting the Marlins.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Ran them into the ground?
He employed the same strategy with the Expos and those crafty Canadians told him, in so many words, to go fuck himself.
FWIW — I wouldn’t wish anyone having to play baseball in Olympic Stadium either, but still.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I wouldn't wish anyone having to play baseball in Olympic Stadium
and I wouldn’t want my tax dollars paying for a new sports arena.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'm ok with tax dollars paying for a sports arena,
because said arena can host a lot of other events, like the Sprint Center in KC, Target Center in the Twin Cities, or Wells Fargo Arena in Des Moines. Those type of complexes invite private investment around the facility and improve the ability of that particular community to bring in outside entertainment. That’s a way to improve the private lives of taxpayers, which is what taxpayer dollars should be used for.
I certainly wouldn’t want my tax dollars to fund a baseball ONLY facility, however, because there are very few uses for that type of venue other than baseball, and in the northern section of the country (like, say, Minneapolis) they’re essentially only usable during the baseball season as well. At that point, taxpayers are simply giving money away to private enterprises that are part of a cartel run by billionaires.
I fully believe that taxpayer dollars would never have been put into the Busch III project had constituents gotten a glimpse of the supposed “Ballpark Village” site 6 short years later.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I give you U2
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How many other big concerts has Busch hosted though?
I would guess the Edward Jones Dome has twice as many since the stadium was built and it’s in a really crappy part of downtown, imo.
For that matter, the new hockey arena is also better for multi-purpose use than Busch is.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Yes and the hockey arena usually has big banners promoting its concerts.
At least when I am around it while in town for a Cardinals game. I think an arena for basketball, hockey and concerts makes much more sense than one for football or baseball. That being said, how awful has the Phoenix Coyotes arena been for the city?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Is the hockey arena where the old Kiel used to be?
Can’t remember what downtown looks like anymore.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
right next to Union Station.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the "new" hockey arena.
18 years is a long time to still be considered “new”
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
The Eagles played there last year
Didnt McCartney have a show there at some point too?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 2, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
It's Epstein's master plan for NL Central domination!
Ahhhhhhhh! Run! Run for the hills! Ahhhhhhhh!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Well, yes, but that's not the only reason.
Loria has clearly had the means to spend $100M on his team for years, he’s just not done it because he was playing hardball to get a stadium built where he could maximize revenue. Now that he has the stadium, I predict he will start spending a lot more money on players, marketing, and so on to reap the benefits of the new stadium’s revenue streams.
This is a huge problem for every professional sports league in America, imo, with the possible exception of the NFL because they have such a great revenue sharing system.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Similarly:
Look at the amount of money the Twins have spent the last couple of seasons. If they were still playing at the Metrodome, is there any fucking way that they sign Mauer to a nearly $200M contract? Not a chance in hell.
Carl Pohlad was making sure that taxpayers built him a stadium, and that’s exactly what he got. Now he’ll pay to keep his team competitive because he can do so and still make as much money as he was before.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Or in other words. . .
1. Extort fans.
2. Corporate Welfare
3. ??? (but probably not overpaying free agent closers)
4. (MOAR) Profit
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 2, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Owning a major league baseball team is so lucrative
that even Frank McCourt can’t fuck it up.
Owners and players have finally figured out that nobody wins a strike, and it only took three work stoppages and one canceled World Series to get to that point.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Drugs, of course.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
The taxpayers of southern florida spent $500 million on a stadium for the Marlins...
and the team gets most of the revenues. This is a significantly better deal than they had prior.
Sign Roy O
What are the dimensions of the new Marlins stadium?
Heath Bell is a fly ball pitcher
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
deep left, shallow right
deepest 420, 416 CF, right center 392, RF 335
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
Oh great, another left-handed hitter's paradise.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Why would anyone sink that much into a closer?
I thought the dry market for Bell at the deadline was a sign that the overvaluing of closers was coming to a final sane stop, but it turns out that it was actually the Padres so overvalued Bell at the deadline that he couldn’t even be traded. Dumb, dumb, dumb, and stupid.
The only reason they would sink that much into a closer is if they weren’t paying attention for the last 10 years in which the average bust rate of “top end” closers has been around 50%.
Not to mention the fact that Bell isn’t exactly a great closer even in comparison to other overrated closers. Among Leo Nunez, Steve Cishek, and Edward Mujica, the Marlins already have at least one or two guys who are going to be better than Bell next year and you don’t pay tens of millions of dollars to your second or third best reliever if you have any idea what you are doing.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
It's mind boggling.
I’m REALLY happy with the approach Mo is taking with our bullpen. Cheap, high K/9 righties and whatever for your LOOOGies.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
If Mo figures out how to do this with innings-eating starters as well,
he will be a great GM.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
It has been higher than that, hasn't it?
Relief pitchers
The highest-paid relief pitchers, by average annual value:
1. Mariano Rivera, $15,000,000 (2008-10) (2011-12)
2. Brad Lidge, $12,500,000 (2009-11)
. . . Jonathan Papelbon, $12,500,000 (2012-15)
4. Francisco Rodriguez, $12,333,333 (2009-11)
5. Jonathan Papelbon, $12,000,000 (2011)
6. Joe Nathan, $11,750,000 (2008-11)
7. Francisco Cordero, $11,500,000 (2008-11)
8. Billy Wagner, $10,750,000 (2006-09)
9. Kerry Wood, $10,250,000 (2009-10)
10. B.J. Ryan, $9,400,000 (2006-10)
11. Jonathan Papelbon, $9,350,000 (2010)
12. Brian Fuentes, $8,750,000 (2009-10)
13. Trevor Hoffman, $8,000,000 (2010)
14. Bobby Jenks, $7,500,000 (2010)
. . . Heath Bell, $7,500,000 (2011)
16. Jose Valverde, $7,000,000 (2010-11)
17. Danys Baez, $6,333,333 (2007-09)
18. Trevor Hoffman, $6,000,000 (2009)
. . . Mike Gonzalez, $6,000,000 (2010-11)
20. Bobby Jenks, $5,600,000 (2009)
21. Octavio Dotel, $5,500,000 (2008-09)
. . . Fernando Rodney, $5,500,000 (2010-11)
. . . Joaquin Benoit, $5,500,000 (2011-13)
. . . Jonathan Broxton, $5,500,000 (2010-11)
Just looking at the FA contracts, the only ones that lived up to their deals were Rivera… maybe Valverde. Cordero, KRod, Ryan, Lidge, Nathan, Wood, Fuentes, Gonzalez, and Rodney were all busts. Isringhausen was good too, but isn’t on the list.
The first FA contract I can remember was a misguided reliever signing – Bruce Sutter by the Braves in 1984.
Sign Roy O
NEEDS MOAR SORIANO!!!
Rafael Soriano rhp
3 years/$35M (2011-13)
3 years/$35M (2011-13)
signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 1/14/11
11:$10M, 12:$11M, 13:$14M
Soriano may opt out and take $1.5M buyout after either 2011 or 2012 seasons
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
"may opt out"
didn’t Vernon Wells have the option to opt out of his deal? I think DiPoto thought about kidnapping one of his kids to make that happen.
Sign Roy O
I was thinking of the bust rate per season,
so among guys like Nathan, Lidge, Rivera, Papelbon, Rodney, and Hoffman in 2009, half of them were very good, but half of them were pretty awful.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Interesting stat
or at least, I found it interesting. In looking up Hoffman’s career stats at BRef, I noticed that in 1035 appearances, covering 1089.1 innings, Hoffman had 0 balks. Zero, none, nihil, nada. Rivera has 3.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Other than Dotel (in a non-huge contract year)
none of these guys pitched for the Cardinals, did they? Woo! We’re winning!
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
That....is what....I said.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 3, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Heh. Kerry Wood.
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
Everybody in the Marlins' front office
knows that Albert also stole his identity… in reality he’s 50 years old in machine years
by cardsfan_1986 on Dec 2, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
you know, i meant to read the entire post, but i was sidetracked thinking about 2013
Waino
Miller
Garcia
Carp
Lynn / Rosenthal / Cleto / Swagarty / placeholder for the next stud
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
Imagine this lineup with it
Catcher Yadier Molina
First Base Albert Pujols
Second Base Kolten Wong
Third Base David Freese
Shortstop Ryan Jackson
Left Field Matt Holliday
Center Field Jon Jay
Right Field Oscar Taveras/Allen Craig
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 2, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
If we're really going to dream, Pham platoons with Jay and TGreene hits well enough that we stop drooling over Jackson.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 2, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
or Jackson hits well enough to incite moar drooling
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
No way Taveras makes the big leagues in 2013
And if we still have Jon Jay playing everyday in CF in 2013 I’m going to be extremely disappointed.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
What if we win the WS again then?
Still disappointed?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Dec 2, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Um, yes.
Just like I’m still disappointed that we thought Ryan Theriot was a major league SS at the beginning of 2011.
This is a pretty glaring demonstration of a syllogism:
Winning the World Series with Jon Jay in CF is not disappointing, therefore, Jon Jay as an everyday centerfielder is not disappointing.
That’s neither logical or true. And let’s keep in mind that Skip Schumaker started games 5 and 6 in CF in the World Series.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Didn't Schumaker also start Game 7?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
yes.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Made a nice catch out there too...
I love how he zigs and zags toward the ball – gets the batter’s hopes up.
Sign Roy O
I notice no mention of Zach Cox
We must have moved him in the future for that next stud Oedipa is looking for.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
and there are still members of the national media who do not see how we can afford to pay Pujols
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
It is a pretty cool strategy
We hear all the time about how important the starting rotation is, how valuable good starting pitching is, etc. It seems the Cardinals have really isolated that as an are to do their damnedest to fill with homegrown talent. How rare is it to have an entire rotation that is affordable and awesome at the same time? It seems like that is what the Cardinals are actually trying to do with the farm system right now.
Or maybe they just got bored of developing cheap righty relievers.
I recall discussing this a long time ago.
Because hitters and defenders are more predictable, it is a much better place to spend money in free agency. Pitchers are so injury prone that the best way to get them is to buy in bulk.
No one is going to be thinking about Robert Bittle, Seth Blair, Robert Stock (the pitcher), David Kopp, Jess Todd etc. when they look at our cheap bullpen/rotation, but those busts are just as important as the successful players because major league pitching is a matter of attrition.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
My only concern is how the farm system/drafting adapts to budget caps
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 2, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that is outside my ability to speak like I know what I'm talking about
I am pretty hazy on that stuff, especially since they are changing the rules around. We have definitely taken advantage of going over slot in the past, though, right?
That is the problem though
They are capping the amount you can spend on the draft with heavy fines if you go over it. The international cap is not going to work. We will have extra money in the scouting dept.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 2, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see that it is going to affect the Cards much.
The Cards aren’t big spenders in the draft overall and adhere pretty closely to slot. I think it’s fair to say that Shelby Miller and Zack Cox wouldn’t have fallen to the Cards, though. (though if not Miller, we could have had other good prospects like Mike Trout, James Paxton, Nick Franklin, etc., or one of the players ahead of Miller, like Jacob Turner or Mike Minor, so you never know.)
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 2, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's going to affect us a lot in the first round.
We’ve taken signability players in 3 of the last 4 drafts with our first round pick, and then paid them over slot. This is far more likely to hurt the successful small market teams (like St. Louis, Tampa, Minnesota, Milwaukee, etc.) than it will help the non-successful ones.
This is a shitty attempt to install some parity, imo.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
No, I don't see it playing out that way.
The changes in the draft will generally result in the “better” players going to the “worse” teams, which will help parity. (Such that teams are good at identifying the “better” players, but that factor has always been present in the draft and won’t be changed by a new CBA).
If your point is that it could hurt “better” teams (regardless of market size) who get to pick and sign “better” players because the better players price themselves out of some of the “worse” teams’ price range, then you’re correct, of course, because that is what the CBA was trying to eliminate. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t help parity. The new CBA rules for bonuses for the amateur draft simply “hurt” winning teams and help “losing” teams whether they are “small market” or not. (Separately the rules help small market teams by giving them extra picks in the draft)
As for the Cardinals, if we wouldn’t have gotten Cox (because, say, he’d have earlier under the new rules) we could’ve gotten Chris Sale or Christian Yelich or whomever. Moreover, teams are all over the map on slot versus non-slot – lots of small market teams pay over-slot, lots of big market teams pay slot, and vice versa. A team like Tampa is helped by the new rules with respect to bonuses. They are hurt however by the changes for free agent compensation, which will result in them (likely) getting fewer picks. But this change also hurts big market teams (like Boston and Toronto) who use the same strategy.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 2, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
All those points are good ones.
But I still don’t see how limiting compensation in the draft helps the losing teams. The losing teams aren’t losing teams because they refuse to pay “over slot” for more talented players. They’re losing teams because they make bad draft choices, don’t develop good talent, and generally make really bad free agent market decisions. This doesn’t help a losing team that isn’t run effectively (and lets be honest — most of the losing teams that lose for decades are just poorly run — they’ve drafted in the top 10 picks for YEARS and aren’t competitive) and hurts those teams that run their organizations well.
In short, this won’t help parity all that much because the draft itself really isn’t an effective way to develop any kind of parity in MLB. A true revenue sharing agreement containing a salary floor based on the previous year’s revenue sharing would solve all of these problems.
Using the draft to do this is a shitty attempt at it, as I said. Might it help? Sure, it might. But more likely it won’t change much of anything — the teams that draft and develop talent will continue to prosper while the teams that don’t do this well will continue to struggle.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
FYI
This, in particular, has the possibility of being really bad for MLB:
This doesn’t help a losing team that isn’t run effectively (and lets be honest — most of the losing teams that lose for decades are just poorly run — they’ve drafted in the top 10 picks for YEARS and aren’t competitive) and hurts those teams that run their organizations well.
Mostly due to arcane blackout rules, lack of overall revenue sharing, and so on. If it works like you seem to think it will, it would shift a legion of talent away from major markets, on which baseball basically trades on right now. MLB doesn’t have a good television deal like the NFL does that includes all the teams, and blackout rules will prevent a lot of people from being able to watch certain marquee players due to poor in-market attendance.
Baseball has a lot of problems in terms of competitive balance, and this really isn’t going to solve any of them.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I generally agree with all of this.
You’re right that the draft in general isn’t the key to parity, but I don’t think anyone thinks the CBA changes are silver bullets in that regard. They’re baby steps.
You’re also right that the draft won’t greatly help a team that is poorly run and isn’t good at picking and developing players.
But the changes, IMO, do eliminate the Porcello situation. Now, a player like him will be drafted according to his perceived talent, not his signing demands. In general, that helps worse teams (whether small or large market). And for MLB, if not Porcello, I think that is good.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 2, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Seeing as the draft costs peanuts compared to the free agent market
rebuilding teams can afford to be competitive because they aren’t spending as much elsewhere. The Pirates can pick up Josh Bell, The Nationals can pick AJ Cole, etc. The advantage of having the draft be a free market is that small market teams can shift their funds in that direction. The Pirates, Nationals and Royals were the top spenders in the last draft and not just in the first round. I don’t see the Yankees dominating the world with big buxx here.
I'm not sure what your point is.
Is it that you want a free market system where any team, big market (Nationals) or small (Pitt) can spend whatever they want? Do you just want a free agency system instead of an ordered draft?
All you’ve done is describe the system as it is, but not explained why the new system is “worse.” Or why the new system won’t also have rebuilding teams spend the most money to get the best players.
Indeed, the new system will do exactly that since the losing-est teams will pick the “best” players in order of talent, and will have the most money allocated to them to sign these players. The Pirates and Nationals will still spend the most on the draft under the new rules, as long as they’re still the worst teams.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 2, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
My point is that free market draft allows for rebuilding teams to stock up on first round talents that fall for signability reasons
Because they have more money allocated toward the draft and also because they tend to be more willing to spend it on longer-term high upside projects that tend to fall for signability concerns.
by purple_haze on Dec 2, 2011 9:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yabut...
if spending a lot of money on the draft or in the internationl FA market proves effective, won’t richer teams eventually do it? A free market with revenue inequaltiy can’t benefit poor teams in the long term. Sure they can jump on inefficiencies here and there, but those will eventually be eradicated as the large market teams get wind of them.
Sign Roy O
This assumes that rich teams and poor teams have the same needs
Of course spending money on the draft has worked time and time again. So if an adjustment were to be made, it probably would have already happened. But teams that are currently in contention have a greater incentive to spend money on cheaper players closer to the majors than expensive high school long term projects. Their money is more likely saved for free agents who can help them now. Conversely, rebuilding teams value future assets more and present assets less than competitive teams. They are more willing to spend big money on the high school two sport athlete who has superstar projection but will take years to get here. Under the new system, such players will be too expensive for rebuilding teams to pick in the second round since they have to spend all their cap money on an early first round pick. So that player will keep falling to larger market teams who have the cap space and find that the lower value of their pick justifies the risk of not signing him choosing basketball instead (far more likely when bonuses are restricted). It may not affect the first round so much, but these new regulations will make it harder for rebuilding teams develop a core from the rest of the draft.
by purple_haze on Dec 2, 2011 11:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
same guys that think Matt Halladay just won a WS ring?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
They are.
Matt Holliday and Roy Halladay are in Brazil with Carpenter. Thus, Matt Halladay, shortened form.
This makes perfect sense to me, which is why I need to get a life.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
you're on VEB
i think it’s too late
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Take it Slow
I think the Cards management will make the right decision with Miller, but I hope they give him one more full year to mature. Let him pitch a few innings in Sping Training, then let him hone those secondary pitches in Springfield and Memphis.
This guy looks like the real deal. Show patience and limit the possibility for setbacks. He’s too valuable to risk an Ankiel flameout.
Just got a pop up
from OpinionMart Survey wanting me to participate in a survey of the site. Anyone else have this happen?
Also, f’n work making me use IE.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I got it last night (using Chrome)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I got it last night while visiting a SBN blog that I wasn't a member of, with Opera.
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 2, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
I read this as "with Oprah"
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
funny,I just got an email saying my jerseys will be here this morning.
Sorry, but suck it, scoot.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
piss off
I still have to call those bastards. Might just do that right now.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
You just got the email this morning?
Or they will be there this morning? Or both?
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
yes, email this morning.
look down for the rest of the story.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
bt:dt
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I've seen it the past couple of days.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
OMG a 20 year old drank in Springfield, Mo!
Last summer’s off-field hijinx also illuminated maturity issues noticed well before an alcohol-related incident resulted in a brief suspension.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
This sentence makes the english language cry.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Yes it does
and say, I’ve been meaning to ask, did Salmon Rushdie really say that? Is he a Cards’ fan?
He posted it on twitter.
I found it so fucking odd and hilarious that I had to replace my Lazy Rasmus sig. I guess he is just a casual baseball fan, but I really have no idea. He’s a very interesting author, and not exactly the type I expected to be congratulating the Cards.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
#HappyFatwa
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 2, 2011 2:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
I like Aimee Mann, too.
I have 3 of her solo albums, and one or two of her albums with ’Til Tuesday.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
for your listening pleasure.
baron, if you’re on today, this should go on the list of great covers.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
I mean, our backup catcher and starting catcher got into a fight and we won the world series!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Just going to guess off the top of my head that 5-10% of major league players are in a fight every season.
Hell, some of them kick eachother in the head.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
While on camera.
And then laugh about it while on camera later.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
And then get suspended for only two games that they would play in.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
And then a year later miss the playoffs while a division rival wins the world series.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
by hazel on Dec 2, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That joke of suspension given to Cueto still bothers me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It was totally idiotic.
It was handed out, seemingly before the investigation could have even been completed and before the injuries were really understood.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
I understand where you're coming from
because a lot of my anger arising out of the suspension is because it ended LaRue’s career. But, to me, what it really comes down to is that Cueto was kicking at people’s heads. A kick with a cleated shoe to the head is very, very dangerous. MLB should have sent a clear message that it will not be tolerated. Instead, MLB gave Cueto a very tolerant suspension.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It just didn't appear that they examined the evidence at all.
Cueto basically got one of the shortest suspensions of the fighters.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
I know this sounds harsh, but he should have been suspended for the remainder of the regular season.
When your actions are the direct and sole cause for someone’s injury, you should be out as long as they are. An entire career would be ridiculous, but I wouldn’t feel bad about suspending him for less than half a season.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 2, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Look at Cardinals645 getting all Hammurabi on Cueto.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The guy essentially kicked another man in the head with metal spikes.
Is it just me, or would the legal consequences of that outside baseball be much more severe?
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 3, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
he should have been taken out into the street & shot with rubber bullets
VEB does not condone the killing of any player, but we sure as hell condone a tough but fair punishment
Balls
From what I've been told by second hand sources...
I don’t think the fight was a big deal. Or at least I don’t see it that way.
Official sponsor of Fat Jesus.
Not to support irresponsibility
how many popular, big athletic 20 yo millionaires are going to avoid drinking and confrontation completely?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I could argue either way on that one
Having less to lose makes people crazier, but being lower profile means a lot less people “taking a shot”. Miller is more likely to act entitled due to his youthful success and athletic prowess thereby more likely to have conflict, Miller is less likely to have “something to prove”. Top tier athletes tend to be more competitive and therefor less likely to back down, top tier athletes usually have tremendous self discipline…. I could see it breaking either way.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
This is why I am not drawing any conclusions about Shelby Miller based on what little the public knows.
It seems that folks are just filling in the details based on their own personal experiences and biases.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I prefer to make massive jumps from conclusion to conclusion based on
incomplete evidence
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I mean, I moved to a new school in high school and had a reputation as a good athlete and got into two fights because of it.
I can only imagine the amount of shit people like Miller or (probably much worse) Bryce Harper get because of their reputations.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
being a millionaire with a reputation as a hothead is a good way to find yourself
fighting in bars a lot, ask Charles Barkley
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
The whole reason that even moderately notable people have body guards is that dumb people will try to mess with or fight them when they are recognized.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Also being well over six feet in a bar tends to draw a special kind of idiot.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
underage drinking happens?!
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Over under on Pete Kozma starts next season:
10
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
over
…on some other team’s AAA squad
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 2, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Better question:
Over under on Pete Kozma starts at SS in Memphis next year: 30
And I’m still taking the under. I think Ryan Jackson starts there and Kozma gets moved to 2B.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Another MIF article
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111201&content_id=26074792
Any idea what the thinking is behind this?
Greene does not figure to be a significant option at second, even if the Cardinals mix and match.
He can only play one position at once?
…or can he?
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
We don't need him there, because anybody can play second!
i.e., Craig Allen?
by hr on Dec 2, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Mozeliak has already named Descalso the starter.
I think that means the “significant option” at second base is Descalso and everyone else will just fill in on a part-time basis.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'd like a Greene/Descalso platoon at second also.
But even in that case, Greene would be the short end of the platoon, meaning only 100-something ABs over the season.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
I'd think that Greene would be a better option for the heavy end of a platoon, or even full time starter.
Seems like he has the advantage in both defense and offensive upside.
wait, what? he named descalso the starter?!
really? wtf
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
He said he'd be OK
with Descalso at the starter, if it came to that.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Dec 2, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
ok whew not the same thing
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
In the Post-Dispatch,
this is how Strauss reported it:
Mozeliak projects Daniel Descalso as next season’s starting second baseman with incumbent Skip Schumaker ticketed for a ‘super utility" role should the club avoid arbitration. The plan may leave Theriot, last season’s opening day shortstop, a nontender candidate in search of a more robust role elsewhere.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Greene at second
I saw him play second for Memphis in one game and saw him throw two double play balls into left field. Can anyone play second?
Older than any three of you.
by Remember Kenny B on Dec 2, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Like,
he turned around and just chucked the ball into left field? How does one throw a double play ball into left field while attempting to throw from first base?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
He was playing second ...
And trying to throw the ball to the shortstop.
Older than any three of you.
by Remember Kenny B on Dec 2, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
How is that obtuse?
He said “turning the double play”, not “starting the double play”. Those are two very different meanings. When you’re “turning” the double play, you’re the man covering second and throwing to first.
Seems like a case of semantics more than anything else, I was just trying to determine if he meant “right field” instead of left field.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
If the Marlins sign Reyes what do we think about pursuing Bonafacio as a 2B option?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
or SS for that matter?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
He's a pretty bad fielder and has only been above average when his BABIP was .372.
He also strikes me as the type of player who would be overrated due to flash. He has potential, but he is well into his service time, and if he costs us real prospects there’s no way he is worth it.
He is a decent outfielder, but he is in Ryan Theriot territory at SS and is no luminary at 2B.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
whoever was looking for the headphones
Sennheiser HD 600 Open Dynamic Hi-Fi Professional Stereo Headphones (Black)
Lightning deal starts in about 30 seconds. Better hurry.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
$260 lightning deal
insanity for headphones, IMO. To each his own.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Wow, that could buy 2.6 1937 Browns jerseys.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 2, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I thibk those are back to regular priced.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Dec 2, 2011 12:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the only sizes they have of the jersey he is referencing are 2X and 3X
with no plans of restocking. Guess I better get to eating!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
admit it,
you laughed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'll laugh when Fritz cant fit in his
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I will have it framed and mounted while I eat a turkey leg like a fat king of England.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
oh, so you'll put it on a wall and worship a hated bigot?
;)
(the winky face indicates I am joking people)
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i don't think you understand how good those headphones are
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 2, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
oh wait, yes you do
my bad.
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 2, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
WOW these are like 500+ or at least they were
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
wow
that is a crazy deal
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 2, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
luckily for me
if it was up for a couple more hours my willpower would have broken and i probably would have gotten them
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 2, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
they had some earbuds earlier for $99
wouldve posted those, but I was too busy working.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
in my experience, HD 600's aren't worth it without a really good dedicated headphone amp, DAC, etc.
just no point in paying that much for the output if your inputs aren’t good enough. this is the same reason it kills me when people buy ridiculously expensive amazing speakers and then plug them into their computer’s headphone port.
don't get me wrong- they're amazing
but a good midlevel pair of cans is a significantly better value if you’re just going to plug them into your iPod, etc.
all this is definitely true
no need to go crazy on headphones unless you already have the setup to handle them. the sound will be the same as a pair of $120 sennheisers, except you would be paying an extra $400
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 2, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
i'm planning on buying a headphone amp as well, if i need to.
i’m currently in the research stage, but it looks like a decent portable headphone amp that will power everything but the very high-end headphones only costs about eighty bucks.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I still have my medium SBNation shirt
They were raffling them off and I knew I would win because I haven’t worn a medium since I was 10.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 2, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
did you have to
/puts on sunglasses
search for them?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 2, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
impossible
SBN doesn’t allow it
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
What are those?
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
VEP platinum memberships.
You don’t have yours?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Platinum membership only available to those with UIDs
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
This definitely leaves me out, no UID (or IUDs, WMDs, or BVDs, either)
Not sure I’d want a VEP platinum membership, anyway. He’s too creepy.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
my bad.
VEB platinum memberships, obviously.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Everyone can have a VEP platinum membership
But they gotta pay.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
aw damn i missed the taking your spouse's last name thread last night
:(
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
you can add your thoughts here.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
its more of a late nite kind of thread, isn't it?
but i’ll add my thoughts anyway because i would rather do that than work.
i have never thought once about not taking my future husband’s name. and i really love my name. it is a very awesome, never mispronounced, good name. but to me it’s an honor to take someone else’s last name – its a symbol of togetherness forever. you share a name. i think that’s cool. i had always planned to give my first born child my last name as a first name. so as to keep the name in the family.
interestingly, though, i realize now that i will probably need to keep my maiden name professionally. i expect to have built up a decent reputation by the time i get married. my friend that just got married did this. also, my other friend that got married recently kept her last name, but they just had a son who has the dad’s name, not a hyphenated name. so that’s interesting, too, because when the kid gets older, i wonder if schools, other parents, etc. are going to think that she’s not his biological mom.
okay that’s it.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
by IHeartBoog on Dec 2, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
insert creepy Gibby45 comment here
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Just had my office window painted
I am now
Mr. IHeartBoog, insurance agent.
I can’t wait to take her name because i want her so much!
IHeartIHeartBoog
gibby45 is one of the less creepy people on this blog. - IHeartBoog
by Gibby45 on Dec 2, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just filed papers to change my son's name
Please welcome to the world:
Effin ZoomZoom IHeartBoog.
BTW, he’s still a pessimist of the worst kind, but his name is awesome!
IHeartIHeartBoog
gibby45 is one of the less creepy people on this blog. - IHeartBoog
this is so wrong
Bursting into song.
by Aranathor on Dec 2, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
speaking of......
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
in my humble opinion, this has gone over the
Edge of amusing-pseudo-creepy to kinda-just-weird-creepy. If I were IHB, it would make me uncomfortable. I can’t speak for her, but I would say I haven’t seem any reciprocal playing along in some time.
I am sure it’s intended well, but I’m not sure that I would receive it well in her shoes.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 2, 2011 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 7 recs
sexual harassment in the real world
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I bet Rui's mom would recieve it well
o/
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
by TomCat009 on Dec 2, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Look here at VEB we wear the meme threadbare then around Christmas
we scoop them into a box and throw them out. This Meme won’t expire for at least one one more month.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
That is pretty much what my wife ran into
she graduated Optometry School under her maiden name so she really had a tough time deciding what to do.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
My wife uses her maiden name as her middle name and has mine as her last name now
Good deal for her; she’s down a net -6 letters
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i like my middle name too much to change it.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Reminds me of the Pink Ranger
Also, you can always take two middle names
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
or fingers?
IHeartIHeartBoog
gibby45 is one of the less creepy people on this blog. - IHeartBoog
by Gibby45 on Dec 2, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you're on a roll
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
did you forget who his mom is?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
This is what my wife did.
Her middle name is now a hyphenated combo of her old middle name and her maiden name.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
that is so many names though!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Well, she always initializes her middle name, and uses periods instead of a
hyphen. And many times, she drops her maiden name initial. I guess it’s just whatever she feels like that day.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Rui you should do the same thing
and become a Proffessor.
Or you could get a doctorate and become this guy:
Bursting into song.
If only she
/puts on sunglasses
Looked a little harder.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 2, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I (kind of) hope not to start too much crap
But if that’s the case (with you attached to your name professionally), why not ask your future husband to take your last name? Once you roll that around in your head, you’ll realize its pretty much the same as the wife taking the husbands name, just with no historical precedent.
I can see where it made sense to combine names for simplicity in the far past, especially since:
1) People really didn’t do as much in their life to have associated with their name before getting married.
2) Women rarely needed their name to mean anything, as they didn’t do very much that the outside world noted.
To me, the combining of names is at least 100 years outdated, if not more.
Full disclosure: I am male, and never once considered asking my wife to take my name (nor she asking me to take hers). Her family gave her crap over not taking mine, but that’s neither the first nor last things they will do that about. When we have kids, we plan on giving them my last name, and using her last name for all kids’ middle name.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
This is much as my wife did
but once we were married, she switched to just using my name, professionally as well as socially. Simply put, it was less hassle, and my wife is more attached to a hassle-free life than to her maiden name.
Computers and data bases have certain … expectations … about names. Incidentally, if you think the maiden-name/married-name hassle is significant, try being one of us oddballs who use our middle names, not our first names, as a regular handle. Computers don’t like that AT ALL.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Dec 2, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
So, your first born will be named Johnson?
What if it’s a girl?
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 2, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
to god: when i grow up, i want to meet someone like this.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
everybody look over here.
let’s leave last names off the board, mmkay?
except for fritz.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
Agreed.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Can't see picture
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Also: Otter Domination.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Sports Illustrated will name its Sportsman of the Year next week
Albert Chen has nominated David Freese and Joe Posnanski is nominating Tony LaRussa. Personally, I think it is deserved by and will go to Aaron Rodgers. But the LaRussa nomination is intriguing – wouldn’t VEB just totally melt down ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 2, 2011 2:05 PM EST reply actions
I don't know about VEB
but the fans of all the teams that hate Tony probably would.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Melt down? Why?
Consensus here is that at the micro level, TLR did a number of dumb things this year, and other years. At the macro level, he has been an extraordinarily successful manager, and this year he has the ring to show for it.
I’d fully support this nomination, despite thinking he was an idiot at various isolated times this season.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Dec 2, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps I've lost sight of the forest for the trees
but in the short time I’ve been around VEB, I’ve developed the perception that the consensus view here of TLR was quite negatve.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 2, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Mostly just in-game tactics.
And a reliance on scrap.
Not many are going to deny that he had an incredibly successful career.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
And an inability to get along with or properly manage...
certain highly talented players.
Sign Roy O
Ozzie ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 2, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
That we know of yeah.
Most clubhouse goings on never get out to the public.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
Then I'd like to add
Wainwright, Carpenter, Pujols, Yadi, Berkman, Holliday, Davud Eckstien and Aaron Miles to the list of players that had Tony was incapable of getting a long with.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Yeah, we've reached the
ALL OF THE PLAYERS stage of this discussion.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Okay.
Not trying to start an argument. None of those players told a newspaper they never wanted to speak to LaRussa again. But I concede,
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
Sure
But last I checked, Sportsman of the Year wasn’t a career award.
I’d be shocked if La Russa wins, and am equally shocked that Joe Posnanski nominated him.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Maybe "sportsman" means "gamesman" to Posnanski.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
But many people are going to deny that his team's performance is reflective of his skill as a manager
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
This may be some sort of heresy but I think I rather TLR win than Freese
I loved what Freese did in the playoffs, but I’m not sure that really merits Sportsman of the Year. TLR winning I would see as more of a lifetime achievement award.
Yeah, Freese shouldn't be a factor.
A glorious post season does not a Sportsman of the Year make. Sportsman of October, maybe.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Dec 2, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Heresy?
where?
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!!
by The Spanish Inquisition on Dec 2, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Honestly...
the sportsman who brought the most joy to the most people was Robert Andino. Maybe Andino and Dan Johnson could split it.
Sign Roy O
heh
after having motte chuck 2 fastballs up and in on braun, i don’t think la russa’s winning it
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
...
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Well< I do to.
And the SOB’s just sent me a box that is missing my ’44 Musial. Dizzy is pretty cool, though.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I thought you'd get a kick out of that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
did they bill you for it and everything?
like the jersey was listed on the packing sheet but just wasn’t in the box?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Dec 2, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They ship every individual jersey in its own box.
Not that you’ll ever find out, scoot.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My account said that they shipped under one tracking number.
I just know this isn’t going to work out very well for me. I’m taking screen shots so that my lawyer buddy can send some nastily worded letters if it comes to that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Mine, too.
One tracking number but different boxes.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
So you're saying that there's a chance that fedex will be returning today?
I’m not much for optimism, but hey, let’s give it a shot.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I received one box on Monday,
two boxes on Tuesday, and one box yesterday.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Wednesday I had a FedEx delivery sometime between 9 and 10 am and another one at 5:30 pm.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
It seems like they have warehouses at different locations.
One of my orders originated in Cedar Rapids, IA on Monday and was delivered Monday afternoon.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Dizzy came from Indianappolis.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I had one originate from the east coast, too.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Guys, the only thing that matters here is that we all have our many jerseys that we ordered.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Except scoot.
He gets nothing. Except a baby.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
He already had the baby.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
shouldn't you be staring at an excel spreadsheet?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Nah I haven't done that in weeks, actually
I’m doing more infrastructure/gameday efficiency stuff. Role expanding!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Not on the packing slip,
but it says it was billed and shipped in my account on M&N. If they reply that it was out of stock, I’m going to request that they leave it on back order for me. I really want the Musial.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I ordered a few things from their sale for Christmas gifts.
I’ve received items in their own individual boxes over the last three days.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I may try to spin my lack of a Hornsby jersey into a Dizzy jersey
if they’ll ever answer the phone
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
The Dizzy is glorious.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
hitting 0 sends it to a phone that atleast rings endlessly, just so you know.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
This just keeps getting better.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
this is the hardest i've laughed at something in a while.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Is this nexdef'd?
They took the loonies. The Cardinals chose the cash considerations to complete the deal. There will be no additional players coming the Cardinals way from the Colby Rasmus trade, except for the draft pick they get when Edwin Jackson signs elsewhere.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I hope this is sarcasm and I"m missing it.
Their farm system is very deep, and deep in positions that the Cardinals system is currently not deep in, like catcher and SS.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/11/30/2601596/toronto-blue-jays-top-20-prospects-for-2012
25 deep in C+ or better players? Their system is deeper than ours!
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
That's not saying much...
I was just being sarcastic… The Jays have a top 5 system and we didn’t get a damn thing out of it…
Sign Roy O
There may be a draft pick if Dotel signs somewhere else, too.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
First off, when the deal was made sources on both sides were pretty explicit that the PTBNL (Players To Be Named Later) would not be quote-unquote prospects.
and I don’t really see the jays having anything we need atm
by hr on Dec 2, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
DICKIE THON
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Dec 2, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure your mother loves participating in those
by hr on Dec 2, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 24 recs
FUCK that was a good one
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
it really was. I'm dissapoint that I skimmed over that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm being a good troll today
By deleting my first three drafts of this post.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Was it some iteration of "Actually, I believe Toronto's the team that got the loonie"
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
any good andriod apps available for using my phone's GPS to plot
say, a hunting spot and where my car are so that I don’t get lost in the woods? I’m thinking about trying my luck on some public land and don’t want to get lost and have to survive out there. Not that I couldn’t, mind you.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
gps lite is free and pretty decent.
Cabelas has an awesome app that is 5 or ten bucks.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Just checked.
The cabellas app is $5 and shows topo maps as well as google earth. But upon further inspection, it won’t do you a damn bit of good. MO is not supported, apparently only the real hunting states are.
Get the gps tracker lite. Operates with google earth, and is pretty good for free.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
What a crock
quasi-related: Bowhunting Magazine rated MO in the top 10 white-tail bowhunting states in the nation. Rating was based mainly off of the (apparently) low cost for out of staters to come in an kill our deer.
even less related: I have a friend that owns a high fence pen hunting company here in Poplar Bluff. They get up to $10k for idiots to come in and shoot their pets deer. Check it out.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Montana outlawed them about 3 or so years ago, and I was quite happy about it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It's such a crock
I was real impressed with the pics he was posting on facebook. Then I realized what they were doing and what they were charging. Now, not so much.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Welcome to Texas' idea of hunting.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
i still don't really understand how it works
the step father has tried to explain it to me before and it just seems like a bunch of people paying a bunch of money for something that costs $12 in missouri
In a familiar form
1. Buy land
2. Put up 10’ high fence around land
3. Buy large deer
4. Advertise
5. Find idiot willing to pay ridiculous amount of money to “hunt”
6. ????
7. Profit
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
It's simple.
You can buy a tag, and take your chances on public land, or drop 10 -15 K and drive your four wheeler through a 12" tall gate that animals are penned inside, and shoot a “game” animal and pretend like you did something that is real difficult for the majority of the population.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
^ 12'
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Some friends of mine rent their ground out like that
but it’s strictly ‘pay your money and take your chances’. He just rents them a place to put a stand where dear tend to pass thru, no guarantees.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
That's a lot different than putting up giant fences and selectively breeding animals.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I agree.
people that do that are a) pussies, b) have more money than sense.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
deer*
I shoulda just called them field rats.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
I DO demand satisfaction
I will have my vengeance, in this life, or the next.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Google Maps for iPhone
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Does it allow you to drop pins?
I have google maps for android, but no pins
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yeah it does
Just hold a finger down where you wanna drop a pin
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Sweet
turns out, you are good for something.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
did I stutter?
GPS tracker Lite. Turns your phone into a gps. Just go download it and thank me later. Make sure you have google maps as well, though.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
The new upgrade is badass too...
With all the interior maps of venues, malls, etc.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
wat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Google Maps 6.0 for Android
you can pin inside shopping malls and places like that now.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
That's p. badass
Don’t have that for iPhone
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
accurate to 3900 meters?
eh, close enough for me!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
wait, is that for real its margin of error?
that is quite significant.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Where are you seeing that?
Mine drops the pin exactly where I want it to be
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
It popped up in a little bubble beside the pin
but it was right on top of my location.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
do you have your gps turned on? because 3900 meters sounds like the error in a triangulation
using nearby cell towers, not any reasonable GPS service.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
Tough to get a gps signal from inside, as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
GPS is on
I am in the basement of a six story building, if that matters.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
you might try it outside, see if the error range goes down.
off the top of my head, error on a conventional gps should be less than 20m.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
when I get a chance to get over by the window
I’ll see if it gets better. I get horrible signal at my desk. I’d assume it’s close to the same with the GPS. Thanks for the help.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
You might be better off just getting a stand alone GPS that does this kind of thing
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 2, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Why are you always spending my money?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
THE ANONYMITY CLAUSE
MUST RESPECT ANONYMITY CLAUSE
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
hooray, nuvaring.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 2, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
get some, fritz.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
...I think this last paragraph might be talking about me?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
wait. is it that you would being fired?
or being promoted? i read it as you thought you were being promoted.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Oh I haven't officially signed a contract yet
I’ve just been receiving stipends
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Oh, it's neither, really
They’re creating a position for me in the near future
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
wait, your position is going to be opened up?
that doesn’t sound so good
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by Notorious PSC on Dec 2, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
wait, how'd big Z do?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Dec 2, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
VEB OFF TOPIC CONVERSATION OF THE DAY
What is your favorite non-comedic performance by a comedic actor in a movie?
Steve Carrell in Little Miss Sunshine?
Jim Carrey in Eternal Sunshine?
Robin Williams in Good Will Hunting?
Adam Sandler in Reign Over Me?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I thought LiT was terrible
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i like lost in translation, but i thought he was even better in broken flowers, so I'd pick that one over lost in translation.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
the other being?
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, this one is really bad lol
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 2, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Did you actually go to see this movie in a theater?
I saw 2 minutes of the first one on TV, and knew there was nothing worthwhile in it. Why they made 2 more (wasn’t even aware there was a third one) is beyond me.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 3, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
i thought the depictions of culture shock were exceptionally candid, especially in the first half
but the narrative was an absolute contrivance. They seemed to be going for ambiguity for ambiguity’s sake. I just wanted the principles to stop being so damn angsty and fuck already. Or at least make the reasons not to more deeply felt. The wife and fiance characters that are the (unknowing) antagonists of the story are two-dimensional non-factors. Having the main characters stare wistfully at old pictures of themselves with their spouses does not justify the conflict to the audience. It’s a cliche: good enough if it’s just a sidenote, not good enough to hang your entire conflict on. Of course, its not the only cliche. By the end of the movie, the dialog has deteriorated into an endless string of them. And the married japanese couple walking together? I groaned aloud.
The Fatally Flawed Romance is an "indie" standard
but movies that succeed in the genre, like Blue Valentine and Eternal Sunshine, are the ones that portray why the characters SHOULDN’T be together. This one seems to write it off as an implied trope.
What I liked about the movie:
-It’s GORGEOUS. It was beautifully shot, and I loved the sound of it. Kevin Shields? Yes, please.
-For all of the problems you mentioned with the secondary characters, I really, really liked the two leads.
-It wasn’t just the culture shock, but a broader shock they were going through, and I think the film
captured that feeling really well.
-Some of the scenes stand on their own outside the problems of the broader narrative. The karaoke night, and the hospital stand out to me, among others.
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You didn't mention,
teenage Scarlett Johansson with 55 year old Bill Murray somehow being plausible to people.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Hate Lost in Translation
almost as much as I hate The English Patient.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
Now that's just cruel.
But seriously, I think Lost in Translation is one of those piece of art, like a Rothko painting or a John Ashbery poem, that if it doesn’t speak to you on some basic emotional level, it falls totally flat; but, if it does speak to you this way, it’s powerful. Like I said, 23 year-old fink LOVED it. I thought it was the best thing ever, man. I don’t like it nearly so well now, but bits of it still have plenty of emotional resonance for me, probably memory-related.
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Ah, Rothko
At least Rothko makes some stuff I find kind of fun to just sit and stare at for a minute. My daughter has literally produced paintings already that I consider on par with stuff by Klee and Miro.
I was at an auction at Sotheby's in London.
An elderly British couple was sitting behind me. A Damien Hirst painting was on the block. The bidding began.
“Oh, Harold…Won’t you bid on it?” said the elderly wife to her husband.
He shushed her and said, “Wouldn’t you rather have a Miro.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
I've been a fan of Miro
since I inherited my father’s copy of Brubeck’s album, Time Further Out, which has a Miro on it.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 3, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
I honestly kind of worried about this comment tonight after I posted it
I figured it just might spark one of those terrible cultural subthreads, and the die-hard fans of abstract stuff would end up agreeing to meet the die-hard fans of representational stuff in an old abandoned warehouse to settle this “once and for all”. One weapon per person, no firearms, no holds barred, that sort of thing.
i gotta go with the abstract team here. if you've ever been struck with a urinal labeled "r. mutt," you know
it’s a powerful weapon.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
Brick killed a guy with a trident
He stole it from the Artimision Bronze
Or maybe it was a lightning bolt, I don’t really take sides on that one.
just as long as the realists aren't allowed to bring any goyas.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
El Coloso wouldn't be fair either
That dude is huge.
And Saturn devouring the abstractists could get messy.
Is that a cross between the Scream and Doonesbury?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
It's Goya's "Saturn Devouring His Children" altered for the cover of an album.
The Three Johns is the band, the most notable John is Jon Langford of the Mekons.
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hmmmmm......may have to do some googling......
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 3, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
meh. never been much of a post-punk guy
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 3, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
They are ALL over genre-wise.
Punk, old Hank Sr.-inspired country, new wave, post punk, straight rock, acoustic, electro-pop. They’ve done it all. And almost always very well.
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maybe I've just picked the wrong ones so far
I haven’t heard anything that I can really classify as singing yet.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 3, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Their catalog is huge and varied.
They have 3 main singers. Sally Timms has a lovely voice, Tom Greenhalgh’s is a shambling mess. Jon Langford is pretty straight-forward Welsh rockerish.
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Here's a good one.
Excuse the video. This was their 1 attempt at a major studio album, and they did what the execs asked. The album was brilliant and accessible. It was terribly marketed, and bombed.
memphis, egypt
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that was pretty good.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 3, 2011 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
Sally's pretty good.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 3, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks.
Tom’s voice and style lose me pretty quickly. Jon I can deal with though.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 3, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
Well, I liked it.
And I like The English Patient quite a bit, but perhaps for the wrong reasons.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 3, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
OMG Rui disliked a movie
You pretentious ass
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I love Wes. I'd have mentioned them, but I don't think any of them qualify as non-comedies.
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I love Wes. I'd have mentioned them, but I don't think any of them qualify as non-comedies.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
I love Wes. I'd have mentioned them, but I don't think any of them qualify as non-comedies.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
I love Wes. I'd have mentioned them, but I don't think any of them qualify as non-comedies.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
I think instead of sbn'd we should start calling it bjorked.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 2, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
you mean anytime sbn lays an egg, we should call it bjorked?
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
bjorked
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
WHAT ABOUT BACON
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
not to the question, "what is kosher?"
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
Punch Drunk Love is great, and Sandler's great in it.
Do people consider Will Ferrell’s turn in Stranger Than Fiction to be a comedic turn? Because I think he’s great in that.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 3, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
will ferrell in stranger than fiction
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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by IHeartBoog on Dec 2, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
good choice
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Dec 2, 2011 4:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i really, really enjoy the scene where he starts playing the guitar and singing while maggie gyllenhall is in the other room.
that is one of my favorite movie scenes of all time.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
any seen where you can't see maggie gyllenhall's face, is a good one.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
Brain Twin!
Brian Twin!
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 3, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Robin Williams in Dead Poets Society.
Fricking kids, get off my lawn.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Dec 2, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, also a solid choice
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I kind of hate that movie.
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by a fink on Dec 2, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
puts a lot of pressure on you to be more inspiring, huh
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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by IHeartBoog on Dec 2, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's a toss-up between that one
and Dead Poet Society for me.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a fan of Reign Over Me
Sandler wasn’t bad AND we got the Pearl Jam cover of Reign O’er Me from this movie!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Robin Williams in Insomnia
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 2, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Robin Williams was also great in One Hour Photo
And Bill Murray in Lost In Translation and Broken Flowers would be above anyone on this list.
Sandler was better in Punch Drunk Love than in Reign Over Me, but the latter was a better movie.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Robin Williams in Patch Adams
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 2, 2011 6:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I take I you were not a fan?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 2, 2011 9:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
adam sandler in little nicky
…wait.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Sandler
but Carrell’s performance in LMS was really good too. I really liked Williams in Insomnia
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 2, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Toss-up:
Robin Williams in Good Will Hunting and Marlon Wayans in Requiem for a Dream
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 2, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
if I had to rank those from 1-4 it would go
Sandler
Carrey
Williams
Carrell
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Carrey in The Truman Show.
He is insufferable as a human being, but he does well in non-comedies.
Robin Williams also very good.
Fuck Adam Sandler.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
oooh, winner
The Truman Show is a criminally underrated movie
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
Punch Drunk Love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Truman Show
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Robin Williams in non-comedies:
God tier
Dead Poets Society
Good Will Hunting
Insomnia
Good tier
Awakenings
What Dreams May Come
One Hour Photo
Thier-iot
The Final Cut
August Rush
Bicentennial Man
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Bicentennial Man was just too long
otherwise I actually enjoy that one.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Frankly, I should have put Dead Poets Society into the good tier for overwhelming sentimentality.
That’s one of the most disgusting things to me in any movie and August Rush and Bicentennial Man were both guilty.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Same reason Patch Adams was only watchable.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
where would you put The Fisher King?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
In the DVD player if I had it.
can’t comment on one i haven’t seen
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
In that case
yes, you need to see it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
towards the top of the good tier
maybe god tier. been a long time since i’ve seen it, but i remember really liking it. doesn’t hurt that it’s a terry gilliam movie..
> tebow
I can take his type of sentimentality
because he weaves enough humor into it that it isn’t completely heart-wrenchingly sappy.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
That one time he was on ER- Punto tier
(yeah, I don’t know what that means either)
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 2, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
There are a few others but I haven't seen them.
Williams has been in quite a bit of somewhat serious stuff.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Good Morning, Vietnam should be God tier as well.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
You forgot
Being Human, another Tier-iot.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 3, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
that movie is fucking awesome. i just figured no one else had ever seen it.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
dead poet's society was great up until the last 20 minutes though
everything from the suicide on was bullshit.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
poll: are you okay with a middle infield of greene/descalso next year?
assuming we sign albert: yes/no?
assuming we don’t sign him: yes/no?
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 4:35 PM EST reply actions
if we do, yes
If not, no. I’m not particularly enthused about it anyways.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Dec 2, 2011 4:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i'm ok if we do sign pujols.
if we don’t, i expect the FO to get a bigger name to fill one of those positions. i can’t believe they would not sign pujols then go into the season with a freaking 85mm payroll. bad PR move. if they can’t sign pujols they will have to sign some other big name. if its not too late.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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A tepid okay if they sign AP
and a big NO if they don’t. But at a minimum Greene and Descalso will have to compete in ST with whoever winds up being the backup infielders
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 2, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
I don't really like Descalso as a starter
to clarify. His offense is terrible to the point that it negates much of his value. I’d rather see him as a platoon/defensive replacement.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
86 wRC+ last year
He could probably get in the 95 range
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
first q -- yes
second q — probably not, because with more money available, we should be able to do better than Descalso/Greene.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 2, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'm ok with Greene getting his shot, but I don't think Descalso is any more than a utility guy.
I’d prefer Punto to him, honestly.
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follow up
if we don’t sign pujols, are we comfortable with giving furcal like 2/16 or 2/18?
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yes and Depends
If Albert signs elsewhere and Jose Reyes is stil available, then I think we should go hard after Reyes. If Reyes signs with Florida and Pujols then follows suit, I’m not ok with just going out and spending money on a SS or 2B because we can. That’s a really stupid waste of resources, imo.
Looking ahead:
- Wainwright will require a large amount of money for a contract extension.
- Molina will be a free agent after 2012 and will require a raise, most likely.
- We have Ryan Jackson, Kolton Wong, and Zach Cox in the pipeline, and I think Matt Carpenter should get a real look at second base in the spring
- Howie Kendrick and Erick Aybar are eligible for free agency after next season, as will Shane Victorino, Michael Bourn, Matt Cain, and Zach Greinke. All are players that would be far better signings than anyone on the free agent market this offseason, assuming Reyes is gone.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
WOOOOO! not tracked
Cardinal Tweeting
Goold’s link
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I'm very upset that #LazyRasmus didn't make the list
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Also, Torty seems to be undercounted.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
John Mabry taking Aldrete's old spot as assistant hitting coach
According to Brian Walton
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
LOVE
favourite cardinal of all time
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
The DAR ratings take another uptick, eh?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
He's a good guy. Lives about 8 houses from my folks. Used to make funny comments when he drove by when we were playing wiffle ball
have I told this story?
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by a fink on Dec 2, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think so.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no please tell it
in 1998 i went to spring training in FLA and i met him and had him sign his rookie card that i had. i still have it in a glass case! this was shortly after his season where he went on like a 25 game hitting streak and i thought he was going to be a superstar
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
i know. last i checked it was worth $0.27
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
its worth more than money to me
unless the money was like $500
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
one time a guy at the bar i worked at wanted to buy my t-shirt
have i told this story?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
were you wearing it?
if so, did he really want the t-shirt?
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 2, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
I'm going to hell for recing this, but oh well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
heh
but seriously, yeah i had just gotten off work and i was wearing a 2001 “catwalk” shirt, which was an annual charity event at u of a for lute and bobbi olsen. 2001 was the first year they did the walk. anyway, there was this guy in the bar who was obsessed with lute olsen and had like a whole shrine of things he collected, including those shirts. but he didn’t have a shirt for the inaugural year of the catwalk. so he offered me $20 for it (i had another shirt i could have put on, btw!). i said i would give it to him for $100. guess he didn’t want to pay that much. i still wear that shirt all the time.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Not much of a story, really.
He’s always been really nice. They built the neighborhood when I was 12 or so, and they moved in pretty quick. He usually waved at us when we were out playing wiffle ball. I was pitching to my dad one day, and he stopped, rolled down his window, and told my money to shade deeper because “this guy can really hit.” My dad was pretty tickled. Albert Pujols also lived in that neighborhood for a year or two before he built his big house out west.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Dec 2, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I still am bitter about that whole damn neighborhood, though.
It used to be a farm, and an absolutely amazing sledding hill.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
I guess you'll have to come out here, fink.
We’ve got some pretty damn good ones.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, there's actually a wonderful one in Stephens Lake Park right by my house,
but nowhere exists the hill of my childhood, except in memory!
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
that's sad.
urban sprawl really depresses me.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
whichever!
It all spells too many fucking people!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Luckily, I'm married.
So I get the best of both worlds. Don’t have to live in the fucking burbs and don’t have sex with cows.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 3, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I actually really like the suburbs. The StL suburbs, anyway.
But I’m something of a homebody, and I don’t mind driving into the city. That said, I preferred living in both downtown Madison and the Tower Grove District.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
I don't like being that close to people.
The city is just fine where it’s at, it doesn’t need to move out by me.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 3, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
aw we had a really great one too in my old ballwin neighborhood. its probably still there
my brother went too fast one year and fell off and broke a tooth. memories.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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was it you or spants that told the story about a guy sledding
and he hit a tree root that was covered in the snow & it pealed his face off?
Balls
we have closed down ski hills that make awesome sled hills.
Just need a snow machine to get back to the top.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'd imagine that we've got nothing like yours.
but for here, they are some nice slopes that run for a pretty good bit. It’s all you want to walk in snow and pulling a sled back up.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
More from Goold
Barry Weinberg, who came with manager Tony La Russa from Oakland, will move from the major-league staff to a Senior Medical Adviser position and will be stationed in Jupiter, Fla.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
This makes what happened last year,
make a lot more sense.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
A continuing marginalization of Weinberg?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
It seemed odd, him moving to assistant,
but still being the lead guy going out on the field. Perhaps Barry didn’t want to travel anymore, and it was a transition move last year. I just found the whole situation odd last year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and so it remains
unless he wanted to retire to florida, in which case the deal be done
TLR is gone, long live the king
Bernie & Goold said on twitter there was more to the story
and it has to do with the team cleaning house now that TLR’s gone
Balls
all we need is a new assistant pitching coach
and we’ve completed the trifecta
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
He's getting the band back together!
Neat! I always liked Mabry. ’Course that means nothing regarding his coaching abilities but hopefully this will turn out well.
by ArkansasTravs on Dec 2, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
that means McGwire's training wheels are off.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
OT: Anyone on Verizon due for an upgrade this month or later
I highly recommend you pick up the Galaxy Nexus, once Verizon decides to release it. It’s a beautiful phone.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 5:42 PM EST reply actions
I'm not dropping more cash on a smart phone until my X dies,
and it shows no signs of doing so.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Who's ready to give Mark DeRosa another shot?
Now there’s a good platoon partner for Descalso.
Sign Roy O
hahahahaha
damn, I need one of those hats.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Has anyone mentioned...
That Whitey Fucking Herzog is going to be at Spring Training? Invite also extended to Ozzie Fucking Smith.
Mike Matheny rules.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 2, 2011 6:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dude's really working to mend fences.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
heh...
how many duck hunting trips to you think TLR went on with Red Schoendienst?
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 2, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
tony tried to convince him that it would be just as fun to shoot some tofu ducks that tony flung up in the air,
but red was not interested.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
Oddly enough
That sport is catching on, they even have a training simulator.
"There are three things the average man thinks he can do better than anybody else: build a fire, run a hotel and manage a baseball team."- Rocky Bridges
by That's a Winner on Dec 2, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
iheartmikematheny
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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i approve of this name change
until double switches Lego out in the 10th & puts the pitcher in his spot
Balls
One of the things I've been looking forward to is Ozzie Smith
Because now that TLR is gone, I really hope to see Ozzie a lot more and I think he could be a great instructor during Spring Training.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
For alll the other Iced Hockey fans
Perron is returning tomorrow against the Blackhawks
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
I tried the preview, and it didn't work.
I used wine for awhile, but realized I’d only want it on my netbook because my desktop is fully loaded with music, and I recently switched my netbook over to windows for a few programs for school.
in summary, I only use it in windows. I recall Cody mentioning he also uses wine.
Still not a werewolf.
yeah
i added the repository and updated apt-get, but it said it couldn’t find the package, so i ended up installing wine and using it
but either way ubuntu 11.10 is a huge battery hog. i get like a fourth of the battery life of what i get on windows 7, so i may have to try something different or go back to windows.
what were you running?
Colby Rasmus is dancing with your fiance....Deal with It
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 7:40 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
doesn't really matter
he is just going to strike out anyway
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Dec 2, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 14 recs
Colby dances like he swings- long, awkward, and with his eyes shut.
"With the miraculous escape of the entire St. louis baseball team still fresh in our memories we may well ask, is there such a thing as luck? What is luck? ... It is a mystery we may never know. However, this we do know... -F. C. Lane, 1911. WOOOOOO! -VEB, 2011.
Which kind of swinging
with a bat or with fellow swingers, because that description probably fits both
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
is he wearing shoes?
but look, she supports breast cancer awareness
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"hey, would you hold my beer for me? i would hold it, but, you know, that's a lot of effort."
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 2, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Caption Contest!
“You see the problem with my dancing is I always tend to pull my hips, when I should be going the opposite way with them”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
"With my shirt and your shirt all we need is a table, food and Yogi Bear to make this an official 'pic-a-nick'"
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
"i would ask you to come home with me, but i don't speak canadian."
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 2, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
"Hey, you wanna get out of here, your friend is making this really awkward by greeting everyone with her hand outstretched like that"
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, what's the other girl doing?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
unlike the other two, she is positioned correctly to catch the pop-up.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 2, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
that's the one
I was trying not to type “fliner”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"Hey Ms. Linda, how do you feel about doing all the work in bed?"
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Dec 2, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Trying to come up with something about his dad making him a slap hitter instead of a power/HR guy
To reply to this. Nothing so far
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 2, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
"An' to think, them ol' Cardinals tried to get me to 'go the other way'..."
"With the miraculous escape of the entire St. louis baseball team still fresh in our memories we may well ask, is there such a thing as luck? What is luck? ... It is a mystery we may never know. However, this we do know... -F. C. Lane, 1911. WOOOOOO! -VEB, 2011.
by SleepyCA on Dec 2, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
So s Colby fire burning
on the dance floor?
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 2, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
When asked about Colby's technique, Cardinals pitcher Chris Carpenter had this to say?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
is this file huge or is it just my comp
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
No idea
I didn’t re-size this one, because every time I do, some VEBers say it’s huge and others say it’s perfect
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
#lazyrasmus couldn't choose which one to dance with
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
i miss the baseball.
sigh.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 2, 2011 8:17 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
this is after they broke his legs, right?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
haha
good lord guys… at least one of them’s gone
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
Theriot looks soooo thug /s
“Now listen, you’re gonna look at the camera with a blank face and not make any faces. You smile, or frown or let them know we broke ya legs, and we’ll permanently attach that stupid visor to ya head.”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
So, it's a bum with nice sunglasses, Rick Schroder, and totally bitchin' looking hispanic guys who are probably spies and also professional jazz musicians
It’s a cool photo, but sort of random.
until they break your legs.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sean payton saints head coach
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 2, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Furc looks like a gangster
in a broadway musical.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 2, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
I hope he looks like that basically whenever he's not playing baseball
Also, this picture makes me want the Cardinals to sign him more than before.
West Side Story, FTMFW
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Needs Aranathor's sig.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
The cast of Jersey Shore?
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
..
brianmctaggart Brian McTaggart
Jeff Luhnow, Cards VP of player procurement, has also interviewed with Astros, source confirms.
#HappySeason
ugh. running the astros sounds like it's almost as desirable as running the orioles.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
Yeah, seems that way.
Jeff Sullivan did a write up about that too.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 2, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Remember when the Astros were rivals?
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 2, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
their first baseman was oddly attractive
in a jovial, rakish way.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 2, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
like in a, he would look handsome in a Cardinals jersey holding a World Series trophy kind of way?
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 2, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know.
maybe if he worked on a beard or something. with a touch of gray.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 2, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe a little something like.....this?
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by Notorious PSC on Dec 2, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
that's some fine photoshop work
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 2, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, it really happened! Honest!
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 2, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
look how the font matches on the reflection
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You can't fake a photo like that
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 2, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know why but it reminds me of this
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but dude gave himself a nickname.
I mean, who does that?
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 2, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get why it's not desireable...
has Crane shown himself to be on par with Angelos?
Sign Roy O
I don't really get why it's quite as toxic as Baltimore,
but the cupboard is pretty bare in Houston right now , isn’t it? An established GM probably looks at that situation and gets weary just thinking about it.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 2, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
or remake it into his own image
like putting alligators in that moat
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You'd think a new owner, a decent size market, and a blank slate...
would be exactly what a GM would want…
Sign Roy O
Well unless that owner is Jim Crane
Wasn’t his company accused of war profiteering?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 2, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
What tom said below.
If the new guy doesn’t get a long leash and a long time to resurrect that team, he could kill his career.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 2, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
oh, i didn't think of it in terms of ownership. houston will take 5+ years to rebuild. unless you have a guarantee
that you’ll be kept on that long, you run the risk of being unemployable if let go while the club is still rebuilding. during that time you’ll be changing leagues, etc. it will be high-stress and fairly thankless for the foreseeable future.
for that matter, by the time baltimore rights itself, the natural way of things will likely remove angelos from the picture.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
It's much better actually.
Less Peter Angelos.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Here's something I never read about Matheny before
From Keith Olbermann’s blog—sorry if this is repost:
I met Mike Matheny during the nightmarish 2000 NLCS when Rick Ankiel was hit by the same psychological trauma – damage to a close male relative or friend who had taught him the game – that befell Steve Blass, Chuck Knoblauch, Steve Sax, the ex-pitcher-turned-author Pat Jordan, and others. Matheny had cut up his hand opening the odd gift of a really big hunting knife, and had to turn over Cardinals’ catching to Carlos Hernandez.
Matheny was devastated, but less for himself and far more for what his absence meant to Ankiel. I don’t know that this has been reported since the time Ankiel’s problems crested (I know I put it on our Fox broadcasts of the Cards-Mets playoffs), but Matheny told me that several times during the season Ankiel had begun to spiral out of control the way he did in that heart-stopping start against New York. "But I could calm him down, I was able to stop him. Last night, watching it, I felt helpless. Worse, I felt paralyzed. I could’ve talked him out of it."
Consider this in the later context. Ankiel was collapsing under the weight of his father – who had driven him throughout his youth and into his career – going to prison for drug-running. The problem would run Ankiel out of the majors the next year and make him an outfielder two years after that. Yet Matheny was somehow able to encourage him, reassure him, or simply bullspit him, into overcoming this set of complex psychological phenomena.
Put that into a skill set that includes good game judgement, an ability to easily relate to everybody from batboys to announcers who wouldn’t give anybody a hunter’s knife as a present in a million years, and all the other non-healing powers a manager is supposed to have, and I think it’s safe to infer Matheny will be a pretty good big league skipper.
I bolded those parts for emphasis. I knew Matheny felt terrible about not being there during that game but I never knew that Ankiel was so close to losing it that season before reading that. I like the Matheny hiring even more after that.
from http://keitholbermann.mlblogs.com/2011/11/15/miami-in-a-vice
so now's the part where we sign ankiel as a pitcher right
by DanUpBaby on Dec 2, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pitcher/5th outfielder
move over Kyle Lohse, your spot in the outfield is no longer safe
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 2, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Too soon
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Rec'd for dreaming.
I didn’t know about this actually. Just makes it more heart breaking.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
I've always liked Olbermann
http://keitholbermann.mlblogs.com/2011/11/30/the-night-i-realized-bobby-valentine-was-clueless/
lol, this about sums it up
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 3, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
They're gonna make them take out the home run display, aren't they?
This is why we can’t have nice tacky things.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 2, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'm gonna so bid on the display during the government auction.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Mardi Gras everyday
Every.Day.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
heard for the first time today
the new unis were inspired by BASEketball
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
They don't have the Marlins goddamn financial data?
Deadspin does for Christ’s sake!
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 2, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Your daily December Christmas song:
Bing Crosby and David Bowie – “Little Drummer Boy (Peace On Earth)”
The track was recorded on 11 September 1977 for Crosby’s then-upcoming television special, Bing Crosby’s Merrie Olde Christmas. The pair exchanged dialogue about what they do for Christmas before singing “Little Drummer Boy” with a new counterpoint with original lyrics written for the special, “Peace on Earth.” (…) Crosby died on October 14, just over a month after recording the special. In the U.S., the show aired on 30 November 1977 on CBS.
According to co-writer Ian Fraser, Bowie balked at singing “Little Drummer Boy.” “I hate this song. Is there something else I could sing?” Fraser recalls Bowie telling him. Fraser, along with songwriter Larry Grossman and the special’s scriptwriter, Buz Kohan, then wrote “Peace on Earth” as a counterpoint to “Little Drummer Boy.” Crosby performed “Little Drummer Boy,” while Bowie sang the new tune “Peace on Earth,” which they reportedly performed after less than an hour of rehearsal.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 2, 2011 11:07 PM EST reply actions
there's something to be said for the classics
there’s also something to be said for kickass non-traditional Christmas songs like Father Christmas.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
i already posted the youtube of that!
where is that link, monocled one
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Copious amounts of margarita FTMWW
THat means “for the motherfucking win”
I’m drunk
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 2, 2011 11:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Let's do this shit
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 2, 2011 11:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what's the second W mean?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
WOOOOOO!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 2, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Wasted
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
shit
FTMFW
There we go
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 2, 2011 11:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He's serious folks...
gone from posting via mobile to via iPhone app.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
gettin realz up in this bitch
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
I forget about the app
Figured I’d give it a spin.
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 2, 2011 11:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Oh.....volsncard'd
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
cooking channel while drunk is awesome
Someone needs to do the cross through thing and say:
Fixed
The cooking channel is awesome
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 2, 2011 11:44 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I think you mean this:
cookingchannelwhile drunk is awesome
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 3, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
seems dangerous
But I’m game
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 3, 2011 12:15 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think you mean this:
cooking channelwhile drunk is awesome
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 3, 2011 2:30 AM EST up reply actions
article from DGoold
As mentioned earlier this week in The Post-Dispatch, the Cardinals are shopping for a lefty reliever. J.C. Romero’s agent has had talks with the Cardinals. There are also other options out there, including Mike Gonzalez, George Sherrill and, of course, Arthur Rhodes.
The minor-league system just doesn’t have a ready lefty to offer.
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 PM EST reply actions
this would have been perfect under Danup's ankiel post, above
Such a perfect setup…
"With the miraculous escape of the entire St. louis baseball team still fresh in our memories we may well ask, is there such a thing as luck? What is luck? ... It is a mystery we may never know. However, this we do know... -F. C. Lane, 1911. WOOOOOO! -VEB, 2011.
the fucking pappy reserve
you dog. The lot B (half that price) is my favorite bourbon. Almost ordered that one once at an incredibly snooty bar my roommate and I used to go to sometimes, and then decided not to spend the money. Envious.
I was about to offer to meet you and give you a bit, but I see you're in Boston!
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
uwell, this led me to an interesting
discovery: you can buy bourbon, and other alcohol, on ebay. I’m supposed to be studying; instead I’m browsing single malts to buy on ebay.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
ahahahahahahahahaha
nice disclaimer so you can sell your (sealed) scotch on ebay:
This bottle is being sold as a collectible item and any contents is incidental and not meant for consumption
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
Nose: Leather, oak, grain, apple, organic matter, fresh green twigs, light vanilla, and a hint of caramel.
Yumm, organic matter.
"With the miraculous escape of the entire St. louis baseball team still fresh in our memories we may well ask, is there such a thing as luck? What is luck? ... It is a mystery we may never know. However, this we do know... -F. C. Lane, 1911. WOOOOOO! -VEB, 2011.
nothing like a snootful of liquid humus
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 3, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
that's a silly descriptor if I've ever heard one (and yes, I have heard one. Many, in fact. My least favorite is probably "racy")
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
yeah, that reviewer looks like he might be the "evident the wash" guy, of whiskey reviews.
But just can’t pass something like that up.
"With the miraculous escape of the entire St. louis baseball team still fresh in our memories we may well ask, is there such a thing as luck? What is luck? ... It is a mystery we may never know. However, this we do know... -F. C. Lane, 1911. WOOOOOO! -VEB, 2011.
It's 11:30 on a friday and I'm sober
can’t remember the last time this happened.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
Sounds like you have some work to do.
Go beer yourself.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 3, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
I made an offhand tweet about Death From Above 1979 on Tuesday
and tonight it was retweeted by Sebastien Grainger and now I’m being retweeted and favorited modestly across the internet.
This is a bit weird.
Still not a werewolf.
clank=internet rock star
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 3, 2011 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
I was wondering why Grainger and Keeler just can't get along
because really, there’s no other band I’m so willing to blow out my eardrums for.
Still not a werewolf.
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