Report: Nick Punto to Sign With the Boston Red Sox
by bgh on Dec 14, 2011 4:24 PM EST
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Free agent utility infielder Nick Punto has opted to sign with the Boston Red Sox, according to Jon Heyman (now of CBS Sports). Punto signed with the Cardinals as a free agent last offseason on a one-year contract for $750,000. Injuries cut down on Punto's playing time as a Cardinal and an injury to his throwing arm restricted him to playing only second base. Punto is known primarily as a plus glove man at three infield positions. In additional to bringing sterling defensive play to the Cardinals last season, Punto also had his best offensive season by posting a line of .278/.388/.421 for a .350 wOBA. His combination of defense and offense led him to a 1.8-WAR season in 2011. Punto is also known as "The Shredder" for ripping dress shirts and jerseys off of his teammates (and even Jim Hayes of Fox Sports Midwest, if I'm not mistaken). Unlike Skip Schumaker, Punto's excellent defense at three positions and great batting eye made him a valuable utility man. He will be missed in St. Louis.
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Since this is bound to come up.
A long time member is taking an enforced 2-day break. The tenor on VEB over the last few days is becoming unacceptable and if it is going to take more bannings or forced hiatus-es then that’s what will happen.
No politics, no religion, stop the personal attacks, scale back the cursing and try to engage in reasoned discourse even when you disagree.
Thanks.
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by azruavatar on Dec 14, 2011 4:28 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
can act like we're all in high school and try and guess who it is?!
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Just watch for who doesn't post the next 2 days
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Dec 14, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Never!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, yeah....
:=8P
JUST WAIT ’til NEXT YEAR!
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
honestly?
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
I could see someone go in a fit of rage at you
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 14, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
but for me to react that way?!
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Whoa, settle down buddy!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 14, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
i'm actually a huge softy in 95% of situations.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
And to answer a question
If you flag something and move on, it does get the moderators attention and we do do something about it when we think it is necessary.
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by azruavatar on Dec 14, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
the comment was completely tongue-in-cheek.
but okay.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
That's the problem with this site.
It’s the old “Do what I say, not as I do. I can make a joke out of politics, religion or tongue-in-cheek remarks but it’s good. But if you do it the world will end.” This site is really no better then either of the two BCB. The only thing it has going is it does save you from looking for links to articles, releases etc… People here do follow a ton of blogs and pages I do not have time to follow or choose to ( do not have facebook or twitter).
There are threads I never reply to because of certain people in them and the way they treat people. But nothing is done to them and it scares off new members. I’ll wait for my ban or flag for this remark and sit back and read as the same posters bully others without action being taken on them.
I will not reply to anyone who posts to this remark. Save your time.
by Forsch's2nohitters on Dec 14, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
this was my reaction.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
i don't know whats worse
that i cannot fathom what the actual complaint is (the no-politics rule? Fritz’s Tyranny?) or that we get compared to BCB and BCB lite.
Bursting into song.
that's what caused the O..o
that’s almost insulting
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
i don't know why
but whenever i think of ‘VEB old-timer’ you’re the first person i think of….
Bursting into song.
Valatan and a couple others are still around.
But I may be a top five OG by now. Attrition!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
i sang the last word mentally in tune with "tradition!" from fiddler on the roof.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
rui is a baby.
three years less experience than either me or az.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I mean, even I got here before rui
although, he has posted like, over 5 times as many comments as me….geez, what a motormouth.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
But you have a better avatar
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Why, thank you
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
your avatar is above average also btw
(another that is pretty cool is the robots) but keep it quite
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
you took like a two year hiatus though.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
that's true.
i should have said “holy shit i joined five years ago”.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i forget why you decided to come back.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
i sure as hell picked a good season
to come back. ha.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Dec 14, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and I guess the quitting glue sniffing was just the icing on the cake?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Ice sculptures?
Or Russian-made envelopes, perhaps?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
i came back during the
rasmapocalypse. i basically missed the 2009 and 2010 seasons.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
aranathor > veb
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Dec 14, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Was wondering who is going
to crack 100,000 comments first. Am guessing Y2S though he’s been gone since the thread from hell. (Don’t leave royal glossarian.)
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
He's got like a 35k head start on any of us.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I was just about to ask
if there was anyone even remotely close to Y2S’ 78,800…
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Chitown's probably 2nd.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Not as distant as I thought.
I thought it was Y2S and then a bunch of folks around 30k.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
um, gdm.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
actually chitown has gdm beat by quite a bit.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
gdm didn't even post for quite a while
sign skip, skip nick #illogic SIGN CARLOS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
prophetjohn
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
holy shit
which bailorg has. I did not know this. My apologies bailorg. I’m mentally re-indexing your avatar as we speak.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Everything has been fine since I noticed that his background is white
and Cardinals645’s is black
Still not a werewolf.
Yea, it's weird when we're both commenting at the same time.
I’ve thought of changing mine, but can’t settle on anything.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
The guy that runs TST still visits the site I think
though I’m not sure he comments anymore. He and Val are both top 20.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
ryan van bibber is the truth.
one of my favorite people in all of SB nation.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Danup actually has a 31 too.
Didn’t realize he was that low.
Sdrone is low as well.
It’s been forever since TOLAXOR was here.
Nota bene is a long timer.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
A lot of the low UIDs
still read the main page, they just don’t engage in the comments.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
damn. so i guess i'm not top five.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
you're young enough, though,
some of the low UIDs will die off. i’m sure you make top five sometime in your life.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
it's really fun to go back to a thread from 2006...
and see who and who isn’t here anymore. anyone remember cardsrul? how about rockin redbird? houstoncardinal turned chuckb turned nonexistent?
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
it usually just makes me sad.
i hate losing personalities, even if some of them can be unduly grating.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
we lost two big time commenters from either 2008 or 2009 too.
who remembers eternal optimist raconteur? no? how about cardsball?
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
yup. remember both of them.
though i feel guilty in admitting i didn’t realise cardsball was gone until the c@rdsball fiasco.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
VEB history is really fun to me. idk why.
and i think people forget who’s really been here the longest because many of our most frequent commenters (think fourstick, VEP, rui, IHB, d-dee, Y2S, etc) really haven’t been here as long as many others.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
what c@ardsball fiasco? Just him having a similar name?
or was he part of the flaming thread that I refuse to read?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
I thought cardsball was here quite recently
I definitely remember him/her. Think I started lurking around 2007/08.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
in terms of regular (like at least 4-5 times/week) commenters...
fritz, azruavatar, bailorg, and me have to be some of the lowest. valatan, zubin, lboros, liam, etc don’t really count as they don’t really contribute anymore.
oh and erik. wth ever happened to that guy?
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
valatan has actually been a fairly frequent commenter recently.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
really? have i missed it somehow?
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
well i'll be.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
also, this is completely unrelated,
but guay’s avatar is a lot more attractive on guay’s user page.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
HOT
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Ha
Jewelry is going strong at auction
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
That's not a nice thing to say about your grandmother.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
O..o
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Feel free to flag comments that you find violate VEB rules
even if the person is a long-time member and even if you have flagged them before.
I'm sorry you feel this way.
I don’t think this is representative of the people that visit here. There are several members that now comment frequently who joined in the last year or so.
That said, track record does matter. It gives moderators a frame of reference by which to judge comments. That is both a negative and a positive. The temporary ban applied to day was to someone who has been here nearly as long as I have. If not for that, they probably would be permanently banned right now.
The best course of action I can suggest is to flag comments. No one but moderators can see those and I promise that we look at them. Just because you flag something doesn’t mean that a punishment will be doled out in the manner you want but the system keeps a log of all the flags a poster ever receives or gives. This is useful down the road to track if someone is a persistent problem.
If there’s anything else you’d like to say off-record or off-blog, my e-mail is at the bottom of the page.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
I like to think of flags as a little one way private message system with the mods
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm the proud papa of...
6883 cowments! My little herd is growing!
:=8D
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
let's see . . . 0 flags given ever.
if this site’s tenor is ruining your enjoyment, then flag away. tell a mod.
don’t say nothing and then complain about things in the most unhelpful and destructive way possible.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Dec 14, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
....wow
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
come on fang.
i think the guy has a slightly valid point. no need to antagonise him. we have a fairly shallow learning curve, so it’s takes a while to feel comfortable in the community.
i didn’t realise the perception was that there were a lot of off the cuff comments about politics and religion, though. even though i’m just a lowly commenter, that’s something i always try to nip in the bud.
the flag is a really useful tool, forsch. use it and i’m pretty sure the mods will respond to you.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
FS gets a bad rap.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
i'll amend:
feel free to not respond to anyone if you feel that the timbre of the conversation if becoming too discordant.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
there.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
it's like work though.
do you feel comfortable on your very first day on the job? hell no. why? you’re not acclimated to the community.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
it's not that easy
suppose I am a new user lurking veb for a bit. I see certain users cursing generously and sometimes shredding others to bits. I see other newbies making slightly politically/religiously charged remarks and a massive response against them while other more “in-the-know” users make sexual jokes of similar or worse inappropriety being smiled at by the crowd.
I, as a new user who don’t even know who the mods are, am intimidated enough; and I’m not even part of the community. Why bother making it better when I suddenly lose the interest to join in the first place?
And to even give an example, take the mods of our sister blog, Red Reprter, who often join their users in racially and homophically charged rants. As a new user, why should I believe a flag will solve all problems and make it a place I want to visit? Granted, veb mods are not as pathetic and do take action, but if I don’t even know who the hell anyond is, what do I know?
Note that I never experienced the above myself and people were alwsys relatively friendly to me as I adjusted, but I can sympathize to the new users and lurkers in this regard. some of VEB is awfully unfriendly to people outside the clique and I can see why people aren’t so willing to.comment, let alone flag.
Excuse my typos above, iphones are a bitch to type on.
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
seems fairly simple to me
Sex = fine, we’re all adults here
Religion / politics = No, because noone comes here to deal with that shit.
Bursting into song.
So, what about that Nick Clegg, eh?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
it seems simple to you b/c you're a regilar here
It’s a thin line in the first place and trust me, very uncomfortable walking around. Unfortunately for us, as much as we try to stay away from that general area, it comes up sooner or later (see: diedre pujols). Specifically do u remember zoomzoom (i think. ot comment about how he thought a guy was intereted in him. dont want to hgo into details but a non-regular said domething which erupted into a shitstorm that I bet if a regular had said, would have gone better.
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 7:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd like you a lot better if you played Starcraft and conformed to my racial stereotype of you
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
It isn't NOT helpful either!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i think fritz and hr are on to something
and i just want to see it taken seriously.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
hey thanks
Honestly, I’m pretty sure the reason why very few of us are actually taking this seriously is because this is at least the fourth time this conversation has come up and everyone’s probably sick of it at this point.
Or it’s that nobody ever takes anything on this website seriously :P
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
also no anti-cow slurs either...
And that means YOU GDM!!!
:=8O
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
sex isn't always okay
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
My wife says the same thing =(
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I didn't mean to say "joined"
I meant allowed. Have you ever done a comment search on that website for the word “c*ntf*g”?
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 7:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I find cantfigs delicious
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Wow. That's for real.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
don't ask me how I know this
but that place is pretty messed up.
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
seems like a bunch of 14 year old boys
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm symptathetic to where the guy is coming from...
it’s a club, you get raked over the coals for a variety of half-baked opinions, it’s no place for casual fans…
Sign Roy O
that's the thing though. the system isn't really designed to be completely "fair"
it’s like having tenure at your job. if you’re 20 minutes late to work after working there for 35 years you’re going to get treated differently than if you show up 20 minutes to work your second week on the job.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
It is and most long time readers understand each other's tones and tempermants
and we’re just like “whatever, rui” while others get blasted for saying something that VEB group think considers dumb (seriously, rui, that was stupid) and the new guy gets defensive and it worsens.
However, this is far from a VEB problem; It’s an issue on, um, every internet community. Very few people are able to pick up the nuances of a community and fit in in the first month or six.
(By the by, @HitTheCutoff is my #VEBTwitter ROY for this reason.)
Generally, the longer an internet community is together, the better the community, until it hits the tipping point and discourages new members. Which I hope it has not, and I’d like someone to warn us if we are in danger of it.
/END TYPICAL VEB OFFSEASON NAVAL GAZING
"He probably misses his old glasses."
FUCK OFF I LIKE LOOKING AT NAVIES
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Dec 14, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Whoa whoa whoa I never say anything stupid
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh you're talking about the meta racism, aren't you?
Did the Bosnians put you up to this?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know
was jok.
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/1/22/1949974/big-move-little-move#57579161
Bursting into song.
Oh, I remember the Bosnian thing
I just couldn’t remember if “who eats lamb” was a specific reference to something from that or a serious question.
Can be
I like it on rare occasions, but I have to have mint jelly with it.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Mint sauce is by far superior ... it works with other meats as well
Speaking of which we’re having lamb for Christmas and I have to get some more mint sauce before as jar is almost empty!
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting. How do you make it? Or do you just buy it?
’Cause, this looks interesting
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 15, 2011 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
Jut buy it
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 16, 2011 6:24 AM EST up reply actions
I got the reference, even if stupid Zach didn't
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Whoa let's not say anything we can't take back
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I tried to rec that
But apparently I’m already one of the two recs
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
why is this comment still up?
is it for “don’t ever do this again, stlcardsfan4” purposes?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
pretty much.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it was posted really late, and only a few people saw it at the time
And it was sort of hilarious.
Also I assume VEB has no Bosnians
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
and i like anything that makes gabe look bad.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, I'm part Bosnian.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
Welp
This is awkward, you guys
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
It's ok.
I don’t mind.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'm Boss-nian.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Now why would two of you reccomend that today?
It’s gone now.
Are you intentionally trying to piss me off? Promoting overtly racist comments? Do I need to ban more people today?
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
BAN THE WORLD!!!!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Something something something
and hope the robot doesn’t kill anybody.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Dec 14, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
NO I GOT THIS
TEMPERS ARE WEARING THIN, LETS HOPE SOME ROBOT DOESN’T KILL EVERYBODY
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Dec 14, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
gabe worked at a bosnian wedding,
and posted on veb some not very nice things about bosnians.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
now, bostonians.....
That I can get behind.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wasn't that a while back?
surprised so many of us haven’t seen that yet
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
For realz?
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know...
probably a little. A new guy shows up with a four paragraph opinion that’s kind of dumb and rui gives him the o_o and somebody else says wat… it’s understandable, but you look at other blogs and typically the uninitiated can get away with a little more.
Sign Roy O
by guayzimi on Dec 14, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
okay it's hard not to agree with this.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
o_o
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
WHO COULDN'T LOVE THAT FACE?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Ha, awesome.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmmm up to a point I agree
but if, in a community, you want to foster a certain type or standard of discussion I don’t think it’s unreasonable for people to react in a negative way when new posters don’t necessarily fall into that paradigm. Perhaps it’s not ideal but I think it’s pretty unavoidable and I don’t always think it’s a bad thing (e.g. people ragging on poor fanposts from “the Others”).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously what's up with that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
The fanposts?
I dunno but it’s funny.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
We've honestly had this discussion every offseason since I joined (2005)
I got by that first year on nothing but Willie McGee references, stale bread, and a willingness to put out in the mail room.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
This is defintiely an annual pasttime for us.
Which, in some ways, is probably a positive because it means we still want to be inclusive. I’ll worry when we stop having this conversation (though I’d be ok with having it less).
Also, Albert basically pooped in a bag, set it on fire and delivered it to the blog’s doorstep and now everyone is asking why it stinks in here.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Dec 14, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
and we all agree that it would have been okay
if it had just been poop in t he bag, but no, he had to set it on fire.
ALBERT’S POOPIE BURNIN’ ON OUR FRONT PORCH
WHOA-OH-OH
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
He should have just listened to Jack Clark
and kept it in his pants.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
But seriously
i’ve spent a hell of a lot of time on internet forums, and many of them, there is ALWAYS the discussion of a) this place is not as good as it used to be! and / or b) there are no new people! Its all X’s fault.
It is the way of any community, internet or real. I mean, look at your own, real life groups of friends. How often does someone new appear in it? Seldom. If people are going to post here, and want to get involved in the community, then they should be willing to spend some time. Rather than just post once or just for a week or so.
Bursting into song.
agreed, I think
you made my point above more succinctly and betterer with the words and stuff than I did.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
and that's why people need to respond constructively.
i’m not the primary enforcer here, but one has to walk a very careful line between over and under enforcement. if you don’t enforce enough, then people complain about out-of-control posters. if you enforce too much, people complain “ah you don’t let us have any fun.” walking that line is really difficult.
the truth is that most of the enforcement here is responsive. you guys decide what kind of atmosphere you get. within limits, the mods here will probably let you have whatever community you collectively want.
that’s why flagging and emailing are so important. i don’t want to spend my time guessing about or imposing my own views about how people should post.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
I think there is a balance, for sure.
You shouldn’t feel like you’re bending over backward to include other people if you have a good group of contributors already.
That said, I don’t feel like we’ve had to tone ourselves down much at all, so I don’t mind people asking us to do it just a bit. I don’t think we need to feel bad or worry about the integrity of the community or anything. Let’s just try to make some minor adjustments, relax, and move on.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
It is the way of any community, internet or real.
…and why can’t we change this?
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I would def havd to agree
and here I am, trying to warm you guys
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 7:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it is cold outside.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Dec 14, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was trying to exchange e-mails via my phone today.
Limited success. And editing with out just deleting and retyping is hard.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
i really have no patience for this. it takes far less courage to flag somebody privately than to say
“meh, this blog stinks because i don’t like the way people act” as a general post to the blog. if it’s really bugging you, then tell somebody.
if in fact there are posters afraid to flag or email me or azru or danup, then by all means they should feel free to do so. what they shouldn’t do is tell off the whole blog and take their ball and go home.
there’s any number of ways to reach out constructively. this isn’t one of them.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Dec 14, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for proving my point again, not letting it go and hammering away over and over.
You are one I shy away from because of this.
by Forsch's2nohitters on Dec 14, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
this conversation is no longer about you.
if you can’t look at the conversation and see that there is actually some genuine concern on the part of many of the members here that was are proving to be too hard on new members, i don’t know what to say.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Dec 14, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i am sure i have my days when i am a jerk. i am sure there are people i rub the wrong way.
a good way to address this is either a personal email to me, or, if you don’t feel comfortable talking to me, to azru or danup.
if anything i’m saying rubs people the wrong way, then i’d certainly rather know than not know.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
ps in case anyone would like to know, i cannot see my own flags. i assume the same thing is
true of the other mods. so, if someone flagged me, i would never know. azru, danup, redbaron would see it and could respond.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
i wish we could see our own rec totals
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
:AHEM:: DAN ::AHEM
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
I'm glad we can't
otherwise there’ll be a rec contest for bragging rights over who has the largest “e-REC-tion” (did you see what I did there? and yes, I know you are female) and then I’ll stop reccing witty posts because the guy I rec’d had more rec than me and etc. etc. etc.
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
exactly.
AND THEN I COULD ESTABLISH MY DOMINANCE
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
yeah, no. i don't want to be able to see my rec total.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i think i would just end up depressed.
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
I'd like to be able to go back
and easily see all the comments I’ve rec’d, but don’t really care about seeing how many I’ve gotten.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure I have less than 20 in 2 years... it'd just be depressing to have that impression confirmed.
Don't say hi to me.
by chalk on Dec 14, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
damnit i thought you were clank just now
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
(Use the avatars...)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
i remember when people used to look at clank posts and think they were from me
;;
Don't say hi to me.
I'm trading in this name for an "nr" account
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Dec 14, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i don't think i will ever get this one right
this is the only argument for using avatars that has ever made sense to me.
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
and their sigs are very close in length
come on, help us out over here
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
There is abad evil joke in there I am juuuust gonna step away from...
:=8.
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
i have gotten 400 more recs since then!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
but can you bill for them?
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
REC
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
i can't, but i am
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
wow fang has 11 flags ha
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
do i seem like the type do deserve all of those?
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
do i seem like the kind of person who you want to answer this question?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
by IHeartBoog on Dec 14, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yes.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
okay, then.
no, you don’t seem like the type to deserve all 11 flags
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
YES. I GOT SOMEONE TO SAY SOMETHING NICE
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
it took a lot of baiting though
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
flags have only existed since the platform change.
which granted was like four years ago but still.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
U guys really do hate Nertlerb!
:=8/
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
It's all that lecturing about eating beef
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 14, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
I gotsta stand up for my homies in da herd...
;=8)
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Meanwhile, Imma sit down and enjoy this burger.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps he dislikes the lack of uppercase?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Heh.
tom’s lack of uppercase usage (as homage to lboros).
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
i am having trouble parsing the phrase to mean that.
can you re-state it?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
The OP is scared of tom s. because he doesn't use uppercase letters in his posts.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
both of you?
The Mang did more than Milton could
To make the GOBs look good
Then, lest the feat should lose its lustre
They moved him to another roster
Oh. I thought it was an homage to e.e. cummings.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
from contracts professior
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
by IHeartBoog on Dec 14, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not trying to defend F2NH above
I’m saying that I feel some people are being intimidated in the first place. Anyway I think it would be a good idea if there was something like “FEEL FREE TO FLAG COMMENTS OR EMAIL US ABOUT QUESTIONABLE CONTENT” in the VEB user agreement clause because we need people from the other side of the blogosphere to make sure the userbase seems appropriate. just my suggestion.
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
frankly, i agree with Forsch's2nohitters
sometimes VEB acts like a secret club and if you’re new to it and you say something even a little off the herd mentality, certain posters will try and rip you a new one.
i, too, come here because VEB is an aggregator of information and news I don’t have time to look up in a dozen different places. i admit i am not an expert on sabermetrics, nor do i want to be. if i think a certain player is good or not good based on what i’ve seen of him, that’s just how i feel. if i don’t have anything but my own eyes and judgment to go on, sorry, that’s all i have. you can disagree with what i say without acting like your opinion is the only one that matters.
anyway, i’ve been a cards fan for 40 years or more. i can name you the starting lineup and stats from 1982 but i can’t tell you nick punto’s WAR. that doesn’t make me a bad person, dammit! i am not an animal!
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
by Cha-Cha on Dec 14, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You've been a fan for 40+ years and you are posting on this site???
That is awesome. Can you teach my dad how to use the computer?
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
truly, i am about a generation too old for VEB
but i have yet to find the blog that lets me get up-to-the-minute news about the Cards yet still chat about Gibby and Lou and Simba and Taco and the Wiz and batting averages and counting stats and sac bunts and gritty play all that dumb old-timer stuff.
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
when i first started here, it was more a blend of old and young which was pretty interesting
now it is more on the younger side, but I think some of the older people don’t have the time to post here anymore, or as much
sign skip, skip nick #illogic SIGN CARLOS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
He still reads.
Logged in today: http://www.sbnation.com/users/The%20Ol%20Goaler
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
That's good stuff
I’ve been around a long time as well and I can think of a bunch of names that don’t post anymore so it’s good to hear they still read VEB. I don’t ever really have anything important to say. I usually write things trying to fit in to the conversation. I like everyone here, even the ones that defend a position so passionately…over the internet…with people that like the same team….just because I like how other people view the team in different lenses besides my own. It refreshing in my opinion. I do think bans are necessary when it does get pointed at the person and not the subject, but I’ve never flagged anyone cause really we would all drink a beer with each other at the game and not get into semantics over a key base hit during the game. BTW it was lucky…high BABIP….
I'm pretty much in this boat.
I joined in ‘08 and lurked prolly a year or so before that. The contributors are great with the amazing front page content we enjoy every day. I enjoy learning from the community at large and get a kick out of some of the friendlier disagreements (today’s was uncomfortable). I’m trying to learn sabermetrics and stuff, and it doesn’t come easy for me, but usually folks are glad to help out with a question. Same with minor league stuff. And draft stuff. I like the different points of views. I like getting some conversations, but don’t feel comfortable with my base of knowledge to get into others. As others have said, I use it as a news aggregate source. I don’t do the Twitter thing, but I appreciate the folks that do and post stuff from reporters and things here. Many of my posts are in attempt to add to this… I watch MLBTR pretty closely and I enjoy watching/listening and summarizing press conferences and interviews and the like. I can see where new folks can be intimidated, but if you approach VEB with an open mind, it can really enhance your fandom for the St. Louis Cardinals, which, after all, is the whole reason we’re here.
Because Matheny
by WyoCardsFan on Dec 14, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh yeah!
also, random
sign skip, skip nick #illogic SIGN CARLOS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2011 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
It would be boring if everyone agreed, I suppose.
But ultimately we’re all rooting for the same team, no matter how it’s built.
I’ll read and consider any stats posted in these threads, but I’ll still like Jon Jay no matter what the numbers say.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
true
i’ll read and consider any stats, too. many of the new ones i’m just not familiar with. i don’t have the time or the energy i guess. so when these stats come up, i just nod my head politely and try to remember how many doubles Joe Torre hit when he won the MVP in ’71.
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
Hay!
Nuttin’ wrong with animals!
:=8/
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
This comment would be better if it weren't so transparently related to your run in with hazel and joker the other day
You don’t have to care about sabermetrics, but when someone argues against your point and brings evidence you either have to step up or admit that your argument has no standing.
This isn’t just a place where you get to state your opinions, other people have the right to question them. Trust me, when it comes to sabermetrics or evidential arguments, seniority doesn’t mean jack shit.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
well, it wasn't VEP, you guys.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Dec 14, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that'll teach you guys for speculating
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
so does it change to vivaelcryingpujols now?
vivaelberked?
****elpujols?
vivael$44million?
vivastantheman?
whoneedselpujols?
Just win
by The Duke on Dec 14, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Sir Albertross McGDPsalott....
;=8)
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
VEPCriesWhen?
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
FUCK
i thought the Penny pitch f/x was finally going to get finished
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
screw you guys
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
he mad
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
sign skip, skip nick #illogic SIGN CARLOS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2011 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
see, you say....
“when someone argues against your point and brings evidence you either have to step up or admit that your argument has no standing.”
my evidence is what I see with my eyes. someone else’s evidence is what they see on a stat sheet. you say this player has a WAR of xyz. I say I saw the player play most of his games on TV or at the ballpark, and I don’t think he’s that good or bad, regardless of his WAR.
that’s my evidence, that’s my argument, and whether you want to accept it or not, it has standing.
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
There are certain things that are objective, though
A player’s batting average, on base percentage, slugging percentage; those are all things that actually happened. There is no room for interpretation.
Defense is a whole ’nuther story, of course.
Certainly, I respect your viewpoint, and it’s definitely valid; you just seem a bit stubborn about it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
then i will try and be less stubborn about it
and for what it’s worth: I never have a problem with you. you bring a lot more light than heat to these threads. i respect what you say mainly because you show respect to newbies like me, even if you disagree with what i say.
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
mysterui ego + 5
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
yeah, i figure your buddies will razz you now
for being complimented by a luddite. heh heh
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
But seriously, thanks for the kind words
I think as a community we can do a better job of teaching sabermetrics rather than preaching it to those unfamiliar with it, so feel free to ask (me specifically, or in general) if you need any clarification on something we’re talking about
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
oh you mean like all those primers that i wrote, or the 100's of other ones that are out there?
the problem is that rarely do people want to actually learn about sabermetrics. they just want to bolster their own argument.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Oh hey this was a helpful comment
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
huh, i tried to flag but it was already vanished!
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
never mind, zach is an idiot
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
It's a fairly opaque topic, even when well explained.
If you don’t have at least a passing knowledge of statistics from an academic point of view, sabermetrics involves as much unlearning as learning. Quite a lot of it is unintuitive if you don’t have a grasp of some of the base-line assumptions / fundamentals.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
I know, and that's why I and others wrote all of those primers
No one disparages anyone for not understanding sabermetrics, we disparage them for arguing in ignorance.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Sigh
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
o_o
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Why don't you fanshot/fanpost some of them
instead of crowing about them.
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There is a lot of turnover on the site
and these commenters are not the type to frequent fangraphs or BtBS (which don’t even really go into basic sabermetrics anymore). We were fans when saber went mainstream and had the benefit of a lot of people writing about the same stuff at the same time which is hugely beneficial.
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I agree with this though
things have changed a lot in a couple of years.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just saying if people would ask, they would definitely get answers
usually people don’t ask.
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
part of the problem
is that folks don’t know how to go about learning them. Most newbies won’t know that you or others wrote those primers, or where to look for them. Shooting down their arguments because of an ignorance isn’t helpful. As you said somewhere above, people are looking to bolster their arguments. If they’re learning the saber stuff to do that, isn’t that the goal? Showing them where to go about looking for this info is helpful.
Because Matheny
by WyoCardsFan on Dec 14, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just saying that even the best primers / explanations won't get someone
to grasp sabermetrics if they (intuitively to them) reject basic statistical concepts like small sample size, regression, etc.
I had to go through this myself, never having been exposed to any sort of formal statistics class / training. Took a while.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I know, I'm not disagreeing with that
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
quick story
i’m a fan of bill james, believe it or not. in his mid-80s historical abstract, he swore up and down that mantle was better than mays, marichal was better than gibson. the numbers didn’t lie, he said.
well, 15 years later he put out another abstract. this time he decided mays was better than mantle after all, and gibson was better than marichal. because he had new and better numbers.
15 years from now the numbers might be totally different. so why put all my faith in the numbers?
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
Well that was sabermetrics in its absolute infancy
Doesn’t science go through the same cycle? Eggs were good for you for awhile, then bad for you for awhile, now they’re good for you again!
And nobody’s asking you to blindly put faith into stats; that would dumb. But I would encourage you to keep an open and curious mind about them because if you do understand them, they can be quite enlightening on certain points.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I think there is a false dichotomy between numbers and scouting
The only thing that matters is making objective arguments. Those can include numbers and scouting – that’s the pinnacle of sabermetrics – but you eventual have to make a comparison and to do that you need to boil all of it, including your subjective scouting opinions, into a number.
Often people who deride sabermetrics are not doing so because they dismiss scouting, but because they try to quantify scouting. but the only value of scouting is if you can quantify it.
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
this is not correct.
but the only value of scouting is if you can quantify it.
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.
I work in a sport that is almost exclusively scouting, and the draft is actually pretty darn efficient
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
BTW, thanks
meant to say it earlier but the thread replies got way ahead of me. anyway, thanks again for the understanding
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
yes it is
maybe i worded it poorly.
if you are trying to decide who is the better player, you are going to use objective and subjective information. but eventually, you are making a comparison of a single number.
You are deciding that the sum of obective + subjective evidence for player A is greater than the objective + subjective evidene for player B. therefore, you are boling scouting down to a single number.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
i'm not even going to bother to read that link
maybe this can be chalked up to semantics, but i don’t think so. if you want to say the MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO USE scouting, or the most powerful way to use scouting, or the best way… you get my point, is to quantify it, i’m not going to argue with you, but saying strictly that the only value of scouting is if you can quantify it is incorrect.
i can easily go watch two baseball players of very different skill levels and tell you which one is better at what. i haven’t quantified shit.
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by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Uh yeah, you have
i can easily go watch two baseball players of very different skill levels and tell you which one is better at what. i haven’t quantified shit.
You’re saying that one player is better than the other, that’s a quantification. when you decide that milton bradley’s chemistry harms his value to the point where he’s not a good assets, that’s quantifying his value.
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
one of you means "quantify" and the other means "enumerate"
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
is there a difference?
aren’t they both expressing the measure of something. is enumerating more specific?
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
sure
so i suppose we can chalk this up to semantics, which i won’t argue.
quan·ti·fy (kwnt-f)
tr.v. quan·ti·fied, quan·ti·fy·ing, quan·ti·fies
1. To determine or express the quantity of.
i don’t think i am expressing a quantity.
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by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
nevermind, i don't actually care
point being, i don’t think you guys are disagreeing, but i’ll let you guys figure out whether i’m right or wrong
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, i think you're right.
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by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
well you're not expressing a specific number
but you’re expressing a “greater than” or “less than” or “equal to” number, which seems to be the same thing.
I would argue that the best way to use scouting is to quantify it into a specific number. So I guess we do agree.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Umm ... I think not.
Ranking is not necessarily quantification. To ‘quantify’ I think means to ‘express as a numeric value commensurable with other numeric values.’ How do you translate a qualitative judgment like ‘Nick Punto looks to me like a better shortstop than Ryan Theriot’ into a quantitative ratio?
The Mang did more than Milton could
To make the GOBs look good
Then, lest the feat should lose its lustre
They moved him to another roster
ok, that's not quantifying specifically
you’re just saying x > y
but when you’re comparing that with other quantitative measurements, such as offensive value, you are quantifying it.
x + 12 > y +15
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Not necessarily.
You may be saying “x > y + 3”, which is a sort of creeping quantification; or you may be saying “Your quantification is more precise than my ranking, but I don’t think it’s any more accurate; I’m comparing a good-field/poor-hit shortstop to a poor-field/meh-hit shortstop, and I’ll go with Nick Punto, whatever the numbers say.”
Ideally, the scout and the SABRmetrician understand the numbers well enough to see both where the numbers should modify the expert impressions and where the numbers look a lot more magisterial than they really are; but that’s a long way off, on both sides.
The Mang did more than Milton could
To make the GOBs look good
Then, lest the feat should lose its lustre
They moved him to another roster
by alberich on Dec 14, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I DON'T THINK ALBERICH IS A SHE
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you.
I’m not often compared to someone who performs a genuinely useful social function.
The Mang did more than Milton could
To make the GOBs look good
Then, lest the feat should lose its lustre
They moved him to another roster
but you're saying x + *0* > y + 3
zero is still a value. when you add in another variable, such as defense or chemistry, you have to account for it with all players.
Sabermetrics is just the idea of creating an objective system of comparison, it does not preclude scouting information.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
trust me, i have an open mind
i actually used to be considered a stats geek, 30-odd years ago. i could quote stats off the top of my head. i will never be an expert at sabermetrics but i really do appreciate the clarity of OBP and OBP+. i argued for the value of slugging percentage back in the 70s, when nobody though much about it.
i just think, back then when someone told me i put too much emphasis on stats, that stats didn’t meant everything, i didn’t go nuclear on them. i just said enjoy the game.
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
this is like saying that fifteen years ago
we didn’t know something, and now we do, so why put our faith in facts because they’ll just change.
it’s the maturation of knowledge and evaluation. if people were not willing to strive to better know the way the universe works—or the way baseball works—we’d be in a pretty sorry place.
i think your eyes are, in some cases, a legitimate method of evaluation. but when your eyes and the numbers are in stark opposition to one another, and consistently so, you have to wonder why that is. that’s where i’d argue—except perhaps for defensive metrics—that the eyes test is not as effectual as the numbers are.
the evaluation of players will and must change as we learn better how to do so. staying static is the equivalent of an astronomer not searching the sky for new stars or a physicist not trying to explain the huge amount of unaccounted-for mass in the universe or a mathematician not trying to better prove a concept. stasis leads to death. we shouldn’t be content to not try to know things better.
i am very sorry that you feel in some way persecuted for not having as sabr a slant as some of the commenters here. i will agree that some of us can come across as a little hostile and terse, many times even more than a little. it’s something that is hard as a community to regulate because the questions arise with such frequency that it can be a little trying to explain the concepts over and over again.
however, that’s not a good excuse. we should try to be as good of teachers as we are learners. just be sure, if your desire truly is to learn, as much as it relies on you live at peace with everyone and let whomsoever’s hurtful words roll off your back.
stick around! we love having you.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Dec 14, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well put
and thanks
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
i got kind of grandiose there,
but thanks for reading.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I appreciate all metrics that better explain what has happened
And try to learn from them, but I struggle when future projections are accepted as gospel and when past performance seems to be the only factor taken into account making projections.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
i'm not sure anyone takes future projections
as gospel. i think it may appear we do because everyone assumes no one does, so no one couches a projection by saying “of course this may not at all happen in any way”.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Recall that Viva El Birdos is supposed to be a sabermetrically inclined blog
the biggest reason being that we need a common ground to be able to discuss the value of players, etc. if everyone went by their subjective insights, nothing productive would come out of discussions.
I think you’re falsely accusing some of us being unfriendly to newbies or lurkers like yourself, but it’s just the nature of the sabermetrically inclined folks. There are plenty of us who don’t dabble in the numbers (like myself) just because I honestly couldn’t care less about arguments about how punto is projected to be worth 1.1 WAR than schumaker in 2013 and whatever the hell not.
I hate to say this, but a lot of them are pretty snooty and condescending to us plain folks. Sorry you had a bad experience with them.
math =/= statistics
and frankly, I’d rather just root for the team rather than go into the trivial details
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i don't know if i agree with that
but if you’re saying “i’m a math major, not a statistics major, so your joke is lame,” then i will accept it
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
no, I just missed the sarcasm
and now I just noticed your profile pic. Is that from that Madagascar movie?
i mean
you helped me through so pretty mathematical noobery, so my comment was rather absurd, you know!
and i think so, but didn’t know it. it was from a pretty funny picture. maybe i should watch the movie?
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
you are right, and i certainly didn't mean all VEBers
i’ve just mixed it up with a couple so far. which is fine. i’m sure i can be a cranky SOB too and will try and tone it down in the future
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
I got into a debate when my dad called yesterday
I was complaining about the Skip signing and how I’d rather have Punto. I wanted to jump through the phone when he said “Skip’s a good utility player” and followed it up with “Punto sucks.” I asked “why does Punto suck to you?” “he just does, Skip is a better utility person.” I guess I should have let it go, but i didn’t and once I started quoting stats with a sample size of a few years, it turned ugly.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 14, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Stats or No Stats
It’s difficult for me to believe that ANYONE watching last year wouldn’t think Punto was our best defensive infielder when healthy. Maybe you could argue Descalso. Again, not sure if the numbers back up this statement.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Does he hold injuries against players?
Because I know some people that held that would bring that up with Punto a lot.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 14, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
why the hell did a spambot find my school email address on your email?
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
uh, i have no idea
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
fucking weird...
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Ditto
I’m about a 50 year Cardinal fan. I’m more concerned about the impact of mental toughness, leadership abilities, bad clubhouse personas on team results than younger fans on this blog, which is OK. Don’t expect agreement, just respect for other opinions.
I want more... More baaaacon!
Jim Gaffigan
by blueinmemphis on Dec 15, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I have never noticed but do you use more than one avatar
and only bring this one out with your thumpin stick?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I just rotate them occasionally.
I think I’ve used 5-6 different bender pictures. I really like this one though. It reminds me a little of the leering look LBoros’s bird always gives.
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seriously can't leave you guys alone for five minutes
is it worth my time to look for the incident or has it been removed?
i don't think it was an incident as much as a really long thread that got out
of hand and stayed there for a while.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
they're my favorite.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
looks like not
all the right most threads are baseball related
i could probably wager a not completely useless guess based on the intersection of people who give a crap about politics and people who tend to get too excited
it's my impression the baseball related discussion was the bigger problem here.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
PRETTY SURE I'VE GOT A TON OF AWESOME ALT ACCOUNTS IF THEY TRIED
by jazzfluteavatar on Dec 14, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 16 recs
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
awesome.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Surprisingly
this is not even the same person that ran the azruelevator account. Or the azruaviator.
I didn’t even catch it until I said it out loud.
Well done.
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who was azruaviator?
i don’t remember that one.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, definitely not me
though I have a few other alt accounts, but it’s been a couple weeks since I used them.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
reccerrific
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
what's your twitter again?
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope you haven't been following some other prophet john this whole time.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
I am known for being terribly argumentative and never admitting I'm an idiot.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
you're know for quite a few other things
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I can blame you for a lot of things
and those two are the least of them.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm also known for being terribly argumentative
but I’m more than happy to admit that you’re an idiot.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
i mean, i was in finals
so who else is gonna get mad and have a tantrum? that leaves two and they they seemed to have a pretty delightful discussion in the previous thread
I feel like Steve Buscemi from The Big Lebowski, I have no idea which two you all seem to have agreed on.
Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A
by cardinalswsbound on Dec 14, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
fritz and yourself,
but that idea seems to be completely worthless now. dang.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I am the walrus.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 14, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
You're out of your element, Aranthor
by hangingfromatree on Dec 14, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what can i say
i’m a loose cannon
Bursting into song.
by Aranathor on Dec 14, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh! I get it now, just took me a second, or 8 minutes
Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A
by cardinalswsbound on Dec 14, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently everyone is deciding to let their brain take a day off.
No, I’m not going to say who it is. That’s their prerogative and I’m already having an e-mail exchange with them. The old thread was already censored to cut that garbage out so trying to guess who it is is fruitless and liable to get you in hot water as well. This isn’t a public flogging.
And yes, moderators see flags and take action on them when appropriate.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
given everyone apparently knows who it is
perhaps you shouldn’t have mentioned the fact someone was banned at all if it wasn’t supposed to be public.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
at least bringing it up in this fashion
but for the most part, yeah. in my experience, it’s better to just let stuff fly under the radar
That's a valid point and I probably wouldn't have except for a few things:
1) I think some of the long time commenters are convinced that they can just continually say whatever the want without repercussion. Warnings have not been as effective as I’d like. These temporary bans are the next step.
2) As guayzimi says, I’d rather not do this at all so I’m hopeful that there is a deterrent aspect to this.
3) Secret bannings make me a little uneasy. I’m not comfortable with the idea of people disappearing into the night with no reason given.
4) I suspect this person will voice their opinion of the situation on their return. If they feel the need to, so be it. If not, I leave that up to them. I don’t hold any of this against them on a personal level but this kind of stuff can’t continue like it has the last few days.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
they weren't banned though.
i think az is basically guaranteeing that they reveal themselves after being reinstated.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
THE ARISTOCRATS!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 14, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
you are so fucking weird.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure you're right that a temporary ban is reasonable.
I didn’t see the thread in question (I don’t think) unless it was the one that was tending vaguely political, so I certainly don’t have any opinion about that but you’re right that keeping to the rules keeps this a good place to hang out.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
What's wrong with double secret probations?
What’s good for Wormer is good for VEB.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
RIP Dean Wormer
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Yea, that's the part that's confusing me.
But I didn’t actually read 99% of the comments, so I have no idea.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
One could construe mythology as a religion
so this would prevent analogizing baseball players and management personnel to mythic figures. BTW, it seems Luhnow has assumed the role of Sisyphus. I don’t like his chances of rolling his rock up the Houston hill. And what of the Gods of Baseball? Why baseball itself could be classified as a religion. As Ralph Waldo Emerson said, “every suppressed or expunged word reverberates through the earth from side to side.” Woe are we if mythology and pseudo religion are expunged from the discussion of baseball! We are left with soulless baseball talk.
Mythology is a mode of discourse, not a topic of discourse
(unless of course you’re an anthropologist or mythopoet).
But, yes, baseball is a religion. Most of the really nasty threads here read exactly like the controversies of theologians. The answer is to confine discussion to the mythological mode and ban theology.
The Mang did more than Milton could
To make the GOBs look good
Then, lest the feat should lose its lustre
They moved him to another roster
by alberich on Dec 14, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I quite disagree with your characterization of mythology.
Those who study mythology in academia may see it only as something germane to the particular culture which created the myth in question but it can be viewed on a different level—see the works of Joseph Campbell.
QED
Campbell treats mythologies not as a canon of accredited narratives but as a language in which an enormous variety of topics is discussed.
The Mang did more than Milton could
To make the GOBs look good
Then, lest the feat should lose its lustre
They moved him to another roster
Literally no idea what's going on in this subthread you guys
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
That's OK.
I feel the same way when the conversation turns to anything in popular culture after about 1972.
The Mang did more than Milton could
To make the GOBs look good
Then, lest the feat should lose its lustre
They moved him to another roster
It takes a Liberal Arts degree.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It's the other way 'round, I think
You don’t take anything as footling as an arts degree unless you’re into this stuff. And then you’re disappointed in the degree.
The Mang did more than Milton could
To make the GOBs look good
Then, lest the feat should lose its lustre
They moved him to another roster
I'm not sure what your point is
but it appears you have no idea of the Joseph Campbell thesis. The core thesis of Joseph Campbell is that all myth is in fact a retelling of the same central spiritual truth. That was the core thesis of his seminal work “The Hero With A Thousand Faces”. It’s all one great myth that has been retold in countless cultures over many thousands of years using different character names but with the same story pattern—i.e., the same hero just in different guises. Myths, for Campbell, are but one story with a central spiritual truth of the human existence on this planet. That’s religion, at least for those who are of like mind with Campbell (of which admittedly there are few). For others, myth are interesting folk tales.
Yeah, just ask Annie Savoy.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
I really, really don't want to have to go back to yesterday (or the day before) and read through
1500+ comments. Can’t you give us a biiiiig hint?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Lady Pujols is unlikely to post under these guidelines. . .
Out, out darned spots. . . unsex me. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
The debate comes down to oppuruntity cost vs depth
Most of you seem to be coming in the opportunity cost side of the equation. While the organization sided with depth. I tend to agree with the organization. While I am not necessarily in favor of keeping Skip and K-Mac. The idea of relative small cost to provide depth for Spring Training and 162+ games. We got the money. Plus, it still allows us to find the value of Descalo and Greene. With still room for Beltran and a solid LOOGY. The Cardinals are shaping up for another run. When you factor in the minor league depth we will still be solid if we get some injuries.
Wait, wouldn't Punto have only provided more depth?
Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A
by cardinalswsbound on Dec 14, 2011 4:32 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Value and Skip in the OF in the same sentence? Flagged.
Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A
by cardinalswsbound on Dec 14, 2011 4:44 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
while it's certainly true that Punto is the better IF utility guy
I think Skip receiving any kind of measurable innings at 2nd base left with Tony.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I hope you're right.
But I also hope that Skip receiving any king of measurable innings in the outfield left with Tony, too. This also leads to me failing to understand why he was signed.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
agreed
it’ll also be interesting to see if punto gets something around $1.5m for his next two years. He is, at this point, clearly a better player than Schumaker.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
I am very angry we could have had Punto for $750k
and we end up with Skip instead for more money
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Punto cost slightly more than Skip I think?
2yr/3m for Skip and 2yr/3.5m for Punto. Still, Shredder’s a better player. And reminds of TMNT so that’s all good.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
I would MUCH rather have Punto for 3.5 than Skip for 3
and it’s not even close. Skip is fairly useless.
oh, definitely.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Agree. Wonder if FO was actually interested or if Punto was even in the plans?
Guess, but maybe Punto reached out to FO and we passed, especially since Skip signed.
by Forsch's2nohitters on Dec 14, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
here is my last tweet
sign skip, skip nick #illogic
thinking about changing that to my signature… 11! is just about over and done
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm guessing the didn't want him
and the days of carrying 4 middle infielders on the roster are behind us (although, not really, as Skip is an OF-2B-back-to-OF conversion and hits like a middle infielder). The one thing that slightly concerns me is who the backup policy is if anyone gets injured.
Behind Descalso, Greene and Furcal we haven’t got much in Memphis. Kozma and Solano I guess, both of whom are competent gloves but those two should never be given a major league plate appearance for a contending team. I’m kinda hoping we sign a MiLB free agent reclamation project who can play the middle infield.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
I misread the article from bgh
I wish we got that deal again lol!
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm seeing that Punto got $3 mil, not $3.5 mil.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Someone please go to bar Louie
And rip the Angels hat off Joe Strauss’ head
by Cheeseballs on Dec 14, 2011 4:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I really, really liked Punto.
But I really want to see Greene get some extended time in the Majors to see what he can do, so I’m okay with this.
I don’t really think you can blame this on the Skip signing. Everyone may disagree, but I think the FO ultimately sees Skip as a last-resort OF backup. If anything, resigning Furcal probably had more to do with it. Greene is out of options and has to stay on the 25 man roster, right?
WWCD? CDGAF.
If I were shaping the bench:
Cruz/Anderson
Greene
Punto
Crisp/Ross
Matt Carpenter
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I would like for them to sign Beltran, don't get me wrong.
In that scenario, you can replace Crisp/Ross with Jay.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I only want Beltran if he's healthy enough to play some center field.
That could be a very big “if.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
What positions can Carpenter play?
Obviously the Bench now looks like
Cruz/Anderson
Greene/Descalso
Schumaker
IF utility guy
OF Utility guy
Is Carpenter versatile enough for 2nd?
He could probably play RF or LF, too.
Kyle Lohse does every whipstitch.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Crisp reminds me too much of Patterson
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 14, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Crisp is a much better baserunner and has a track record of good offense.
He has had injury issues, which would seem to make him a good fit for a bench role. Also, Crisp is right-handed and hits lefties well which also makes him a nice fit on our roster.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Isn't he a switch hitter?
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Twitter
from what i remember of him in MVP baseball 2005, yes.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Also, Zack Greinke has a 56mph curveball that is unhittable
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Twitter
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, fuck Tim Wakefield
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HA!
i had edwin jackson and scott kazmir in my rotation because they were so cheap.
actually, one of the first things i did in MVP baseball was trade pujols to the red sox because he was too expensive at 16 million/year. i forget who i got back for him.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
also, i set the all-time home run record with
victor martinez. for some reason, i could flat out rake with that guy.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i switched him to JUST hit left-handed,
and my stadium had a short right field porch.
he’d get about 50 home runs a year, consistently, and one year i hit 84 with him.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Ohhhh yeah I forgot about the building your own stadium part of that
That was a bitch in franchise mode
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
sucked so hard
because revenue would only support about a seventy million dollar payroll. i could never make enough money to put all the improvements for seating in the park, so my capacity was something like 30,000. frustrated the hell out of me. but i won a ton of world series so whatever.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I had a similar experience with Sean Casey, for some reason.
Can’t remember if that was 2004 or 2005 though.
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by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Why must you crush my dream of having a knuckleballer in our bullpen?
Remember, Tim Wakefield: #provencloser
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
I like how this team is shaping up
If all we have to complain about is skip and kmac as far as our signings go I think we are doing pretty good
bollocks
Pujols leaving was his decision. The FO tried to bring him back
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Dec 14, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
fixed
Pujols leaving was his GOD’S DeeDee’s decision. The FO tried to bring him back insult him with a 5 year deal.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Shhhhhhhh
you’ll make baby Jesus Albert cry.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Which ever one they di the Fast Lane from.
Not sure. Heard he was wearing the Pujols one.
by Cheeseballs on Dec 14, 2011 4:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He isn't a huge TMNT fan despite what people have been saying
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Dec 14, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Would have been kind of awkward for him and Torty
by mattybobo on Dec 14, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, I could see Torty and Punto at an '11 WS reunion 20 years from now...
Torty: “Hey, Mastah Shreddah.”
Punto: “Ha… wha?”
Torty: (downs drink) So, that sucks that the Angels didn’t let Albert come, huh?
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Dec 14, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Ol' Torty fell on some rough times.
Started drinking real bad, Buick got repossessed. Works down at the gas station now, trying to get it all figured out.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 14, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Career in Track and Field didn't pan out.
Really bitter about the wife leaving him for a bigger shell.
by Forsch's2nohitters on Dec 14, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, there are people who AREN'T huge TMNT fans?
I didn’t know this was possible
Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A
by cardinalswsbound on Dec 14, 2011 4:48 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
So... multi-year deal for Skip, let Punto walk?
I’m a much bigger Skip defender than, well, any reasonably SABR-respecting fan should be, but this is a ridiculous decision.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
as someone already stated in the last thread
mo said skip was signed to be a backup OF this time around. so punto not being re-signed is really mo putting faith in descalso/greene.
eeewwww... faith in Greene
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Alberta's faith is in green
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Dec 14, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Autocorrection on the iPad made albert's to alberta's
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Dec 14, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Oh... I just thought you were being Nyjer Morgan.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
I read that Red Sox gave Punto $3M or has this been posted? (Is nexdef'd appropriate descriptor for this?)
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Punto signing with Red Sox for $3M
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, and i don't have a problem with that at all
on my original post-pujols offseason plan i never thought they should re-sign Punto. I also never thought they should keep Skip and KMac, so whoopdy-do.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
is the earlier part of the thread from earlier worth reading?
i was busy sleeping off a hangover…
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 4:49 PM EST reply actions
or the later part of last night's thread, for that matter.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
on a wednesday?
I miss college
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Dec 14, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
it's finals week.
today is “reading day” where everyone is supposed to study but in reality is sleeping off/nursing their hangover because last night is one of the biggest party nights of the year.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
no, don't waste your time and keep studying for your finals
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
psh. i've only got one left. and it's super easy and not until friday morning...
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
there's some Simpson's stuff in there.. somewhere...
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
it's not much anyway
whatever, knock yourself out
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
he hasn't been here for that long
so; not him, no.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, so we ARE trying to guess out loud?
‘Cause I’ve been assuming from 1/3 of the way thru this thread that it was Montana Man.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Has anyone rendered Turkey fat before?
Got a turkey carcass with a fair amount of stuff still on it. Got a pile of fat. Was going to throw it away but thinking of rendering the fat off it and making some kind of dumplings with it.
don't even need to make dumplings, poultry fat is just wonderful in general
i highly recommend rendering it
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
I've always wanted to try just putting schmaltz of some kind on a piece of toast or something
It’s not really something I buy or use, but it’s fascinating to me.
hey thanks for drawing my attention to a thread about a pile of turkey fat
you guys.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
that's that oniony fat that the Tribe is known for, right?
No, not CC Sabathia. The other Tribe.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
LOL
me 2, if somewhat…oops, guess I shouldn’t go there.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
My wife did this this year
she boiled the carcass, then chilled the broth. After it was cold and the fat rose, she scooped off the fat and froze that seperately, so she can make a roue for turkey gravy at some later point, and froze the broth for whatever, soup or stew or whatever comes to mind.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
this
I’ve got bags of Turkey stock in the deep freezer and I’ve already made a couple batches of turkey soup
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 14, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, this is what i do.
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
according to olney
we’re still in on beltran. serious entity, though i can’t get the twitter link in the mlbtr article to actually load.
Twitter is broke
Nick Punto shredded it.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
by cardsfan59 on Dec 14, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Twitter isn't working
The robot’s banning powers were a little too strong.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Hey does my total comment count include all the ones that get deleted?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
oh good I was afraid my comment count would be below 100
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
they're not technically deleted, just hidden.
the mods can still see them and they’re still in the database. at least that’s how i think it works.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
gee, that sounds like a contract the cardinals gave recently
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but that extra 500k-
who do you think we are, the Red Sox? I mean this time doesn’t have ANY money to spend!
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Punto doesn't have that "wholesome attractive look"-cache
that appeals to the post-30’s ladies. Every woman in that demographic I’ve talked to about the Cardinals invariably mentions that about Skip.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
I think we have determined
that it was for $3 mil.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
guillermo marijuana signed with the giants
lincecum on his way
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2011 5:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
oh goddammit.
i refreshed and got hidden thread’d.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 5:31 PM EST reply actions
if you hide a parent comment
all children comment are auto hidden.
To unhide, must unhide each comment individually.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
ah, i got you.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
#fangcrieswhen the children comments get hidden
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
by IHeartBoog on Dec 14, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
THINK OF THE CHILDREN
(comments)
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
6/100+ seems insane for Darvish...
CJ Wilson is a proven 5 win pitcher and he only got 80…
Sign Roy O
winning bid not announced yet.
doesn’t sound like many teams were in on him, either.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
well, i know it's a fine line
but he’s gonna get somewhere around 6/50, right? and the posting fee is going to be another 50. i have to believe that makes some difference in how the team’s evaluating the money spent, weirdly enough.
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
I suppose if the player is dying...
to come to the US the posting fees would be driven up with the expectation that the player will accept a smaller contract. Not sure how Darvish feels about all this…
Sign Roy O
Darvish is waaaaaay better in international competition.
Duh.
by hangingfromatree on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
You mean
like something with “World” in the name ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 14, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Darvish hasn't lost an all star, WS, ALCS and an ALDS game ever
Let alone in one season
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Dec 14, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Darvish is a lot younger
And has more upside probalby.
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
This is about as OT as it can get.
But I had to share. Apparently the new FF game coming out in January has a heavy metal Chocobo theme, lyrics and all.
I don’t even know what to say. I’m embarrassed to admit that I think I like it. The lyrics are at least funny.
WWCD? CDGAF.
yeah, i guess so.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Dec 14, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What have they done to my beloved Final Fantasy
Anyway, for some actual fun and not totally embarrassing Final Fantasy metal music, there is always The Black Mages, Nobuo Uematsu’s actual metal band that he actual formed and recorded and toured with because he is awesome like that.
Like this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZi0RRVD5S4
(That’s Uematsu on keyboard)
I have the Black Mages CDs.
And some of the tracks are, in fact, totally embarrassing lol. Come on, you’ve heard the “Other World” track, right? ;)
WWCD? CDGAF.
Last year appears to be more of an exception
than the rule re: Punto’s value. This is particularly true on the offensive side. That 127 OPS+ is pretty shocking to look at, compared to his usual number. Thoughts from someone who was able to watch more games than me?
yeah, he was just lucky with the bat last year
he’s a pretty bad hitter, probably worse than Skip vs righties at least, but he’s a super-great defender at 2B and SS, and has been (pro-rata) an above average player basically his entire career because of that.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
wat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2011 6:20 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
How much money does Dewitt pocket per year
revenues are reportedly over 200 million per year, how much of this does Dewitt pocket?
My understanding is they have 20-30 mill in debt service, plus payroll, plus op expenses...
probably 5-10% margin.
Sign Roy O
I believe there was a report on Deadspin or such
That stated that the Cardinals were something like 75M in the clear over a 5 year period, or 15M a year.
Of course, as Bernie has stated in some recent articles, the Cardinals also have a fairly high debt obligation, internally financed much of the new stadium, and they have a TV deal that doesn’t expire for another 7 years or so
makes sense
whats our tv deal worth per year? that angels deal apparently went from 50 million a year to 150 million a year. that’s ridiculous, where does that extra 100 million go other than payroll?
Personal Service Contracts
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So basically, the city of St. Louis didn't want Pujols enough
If we had financed the stadium with taxpayer dollars, the Cardinals could have afforded Pujols.
Shame on you, taxpayers.
DO NOT WANT
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh.
What is up with the veteran relievers again. Do not like.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
god, why?
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Mo looked at the bullpen and said
NEEDS MOAR WALKS
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
kind fo surprised by the reaction
i don’t have fangraphs open in another tab, but i thought this was one of a couple of VEB’s preferred LOOGY targets
I'd have prefferred Gonzalez
But I’m not all that bothered about this. We need SOMEONE who is ostensibly a LOOGY
Bursting into song.
"not at all bothered by this"
Have you SEEN that walk rate? Two of the last three years he’s walked more than he’s struck out.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
"not all that"
not “not at all” subtle difference there. Cause you make me sound like a mental.
Yes its not the greatest signing ever, but its a depth signing and the guy might not even make it out of ST, i think people are overreacting.
Bursting into song.
Sorry, 'bout that - read that wrong.
I just see no reason why there should be any thought about giving Romero a guaranteed contract. Over the last 4 years he’s been worse than Tallet and over the last 3 he’s been worse than Miguel Batista. That’s really, really bad.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Romero is, at worst, as bad as Batista
But, Romero is a LOOGY, whereas Batista was just shite. And Tallet basically fell off a cliff from being a servicable starter to completely unusable in about 2-3 years, that comparison isn’t great either.
Bursting into song.
do we not have a loogy?
i’m fine with this if we don’t. for some reason i thought rhodes was still under contract.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
oh yeah
i forgot about Scrabble, but depth is always good, and its not like this guy is Batista.
Bursting into song.
You're right - Batista is better.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
I think I'd rather have Rhodes. It was just year before last that Rhodes was awesome.
I’m not sure Romero has ever been awesome. I don’t think Romero’s mom ever even thought he was awesome.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 14, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
good point. And Rhodes has had his moments of competence during his stint
but he’s still 42 and not getting any younger.
Oh wait, I didn’t realize Romero was already 35, hmm.
Still not a werewolf.
where we're going, there are no Rhodes
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Dec 14, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Back To The Future, part what 2 or 3?
rec’d for GP
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 15, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Rhodes is a FA
apparently, the submariners are looking at him
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
vs lefties he's as good as any of our righties...
and against righties he’s as good as me…
Sign Roy O
I had thought Kmac filled that role well enough.
Maybe they’ll stretch Rzep out in the minors.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Romero had a 1.73 FIP against lefties last year.
As long as he doesn’t ever face righties and he’s cheap, I’m fine with it.
since tlr is gone, there is a fair chance he will face lefties only
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
I may be wrong here
but I actually think TLR was better than most for playing the splits correctly, at least as far as relievers were concerned. I don’t especially recall any true LOOGYs throwing too many innings to right-handers in recent years. Though I’m happy to be corrected on that.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
see, and i seem to remember too many LOOGYs and ROOGYs being left in to face the wrong batter
i can’t think of specific examples off the top of my head, and i don’t even know how to look it up. but maybe its revisionist history.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
i liked romero 3 years ago
I’m not sure about him now.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
ugh he's been replacement level since 2004, what the shit mo
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Don't we have John of Gall to plug in by now??
:=8/
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
I could see this happening this morning.
He’s a well-known name but, because he sucks, presumably he’ll sign for about the minimum.
Unfortunately this + KMac means Sanchez is starting the year in Memphis.
As a 2nd lefty I suppose we could do worse but realistically Romero is replacement-level. I’d be just as happy giving John Gast or Nick Additon the role.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe Tyler Lyons too.
His splits in the AFL against LHB were fantastic.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 14, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Can't you just grab a loogy from any level of the minors?
all you need is command of a fastball and a decent slider. That might be more than a lot of guys have… But Romero can’t be the best we can do.
Sign Roy O
Probably. Look at someone like Daniel Miranda out of Univ. of Miami
The guy was drafted to be a LOOGY.
I agree that Romero can’t be the best we can do. His numbers are just awful.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 14, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Raul Valdes is pretty likely a better LOOGY than JC Romero.
Sadly, I’m afraid this is Batista/Tallet all over again. I could just about justify the Skip/KMac signings on some level but Romero is just garbage.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe Dunc can make something of him...
looking at his stats he appears to be the worst pitcher in baseball.
Sign Roy O
Unfortunately, with the new CBA and his service time,
he’s guaranteed $1m out of ST.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think those normally happen this early in the offseason.
But, yes, that would be nice.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
That would be better yep.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
This offseason started off so well
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
what with the La Russa retiring and everything?
yeah, it’s pretty much been downhill since there
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
la russa retiring, not giving pujols 260 million, signing furcal, non-tendering theriot
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
I good with the second two, OK with the first
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 15, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Would rather have had George Sherrill.
Romero just walks so many hitters.
He’s like a Puerto Rican Trever Miller.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 14, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. Didn't he sign for close to the minimum last year?
God. Romero is pretty much literally the worst lefty reliever on the FA market who hasn’t already played for us.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Worse.
JC Romero 08-11 – 6.2 BB/9, 7.3 K/9
Trever Miller 08-11 – 3.7 BB/9, 7.7 K/9
George Sherrill 08-11 – 4.3 BB/9, 8.4 K/9
I also prefer George Sherrill, if only because I remember watching him pitch in the Frontier League, and he’s also the youngest of the three.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Come back, TLR
so I can blame shit like this on you again.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
MATHENY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DIFFERENT
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
I'd said people would complain about the new manager in the 3rd game.
I was wrong.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
BARFF!!!
Announcing we have signed Sir Walksalott…
:=8P
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Isn't he one of the roidbirds, too?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I would like to point out that over the last 4 years,
Brian Tallet has provided more value than JC Romero.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
"People who in the last 4 years have more value than JC Romero by WAR":
God tier:
Ryan Franklin
Joe Thurston
Good tier:
Yuniesky Betancourt
Kyle McClellan
Skip Schumaker
Dadaist tier:
LOOK – A FUCKING PENGUIN:
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
He had a 1.73 FIP against lefties last year.
Should be fine as long as he avoids right handers like the plague.
He pitched 10 innings...
his career fip vs. lefties is near 4.
George is less of a horror than this guy.
Sign Roy O
I hope we can keep this attitude when we're watching him walk 5 guys per 9 IP
This better be a cheap LOOGY signing to save money for Beltran…..otherwise I have no idea what they see in this guy.
it's 3.42. that's "near 4" in a very, very, very rough sense.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
really, this just says that charlie manuel needs to retire. the guy faced far more RHB than LHB in 2011.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
thought: viva el birdos needs a wiki
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:20 PM EST reply actions
you mean a gl*ssary?
it seems like that may be a better format for the gl*ssary, though.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
someone needs to write a wikipedia page for VEB.
i’ll nominate someone.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Or at least a guide for getting around Saint Louis.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 14, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
I considered visiting St. Louis for the winter break
then realized I didn’t know any good places to go, stay, eat, or drink. For shame.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Dec 14, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You forgot to properly capitalize the first word of your subject line.
They stab you for that shit over there, forget banning.
Man, and people think VEB can be hard to break into...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Like, no lie
I went over there to post that I got a job with the Mariners, and they actually said, “Hey, that’s cool and all, but keep this out of the main thread. We prefer this to be posted in the Fanposts”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
this sounds very much like them.
hr tried to make a funny joke there and LL was all “oh god another member of the proletariat attempting to mimic our lord jeff”.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i love lookout landing,
but i only read it. it’s the only other sbnation site i visit with any frequency.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Oh look, Aranathor's dressed up like a lamb
Hey, I-Musial-ly-Am, go get some mint sauce!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I have a little left.
Perhaps just enough…hmmmmmmmmm?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 15, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
I have posted there once and have received at least one rec.
They must think I’m cuter.
Still not a werewolf.
your name sounds mechanical, and thus, you are an automaton. i believe they welcome those types there, but you'd have to ask azru for verification.
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
I haven't been there in a long time
but I got into it pretty badly with one of their mods once.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
I bet it was Matthew!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Now he writes about soccer and is kind of a badass about it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I think Graham Macaree, yeah?
We Ain’t Got No History. Does a lottttt of statistical analysis
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
yep that's him
He’s exceptionally smart and an exceptional [bad word] in my opinion.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
I have little to no actual interaction with him
I emailed him when I first got this internship, and gave me a very long, thoughtful reply. And his work is obviously incredible
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
well that's because graham's an asshole.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
I like Graham a lot though
He’s always fair in debates, and not too self righteous. Plus he’s crazy smart. Matthew is the worst.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
What do you consider "breaking in to"?
I’m curious as a “new” (infrequent) commenter here. Some of my posts get replied to, some don’t. No one has lambasted me, that I can remember.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
I was just referring to upthread where people are saying it's hard for new guys to feel a part of the community
Is that you in your avatar? Because you have a weight on your dong.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
It's definitely easier to "break in" here during the season because of the gamethreads
despite all the memes, inside jokes and nicknames. If you follow the game and the thread, you figure out what is what, if not why.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It definitely helps to read Y2S's review on memes
a link should be in the introductory “accept this” message
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think I've read that (Glossary)
Not sure how I format text in comments, add links, images, etc. Is it just HTML tags? Sorry if this explained somewhere and I missed it.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Check out the text box at the bottom of the page.
Click on Show Formatting Guide for some help.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Awesome
Thanks. That helped alot a lot.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Are you Y2S?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Well, as a "New Guy"
I think this place is awesome, that Cardinals Nation is actually a Nation. I live in CHI, so I’m not surrounded by Cardinals fans. Reading comments on FB, ESPN, Yahoo is depressing. I like reading both sides of a lot of arguments. Not sure what other “new” people are taking so personally.
That is MO’ in my avatar, doin’ work when he’s not signing Skip, etc. (Sorry, I wasn’t sure if you were joking.)
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
"That is MO’ in my avatar"
LOL for real?
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
HOLY SHIT HE'S RIGHT
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/print-edition/2011/07/15/cards-mozeliak-pulls-his-weight-and.html
MIND = BLOWN
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
JOHN MOZELIAK HAS A WEIGHT ON HIS DONG
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Needs more scarf though.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Does this make me cool here?
Check Yes or No.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hell yes it does
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Googling "Mozeliak"
Has finally paid off. Things are gonna start happening for me now.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Can you play
2B OF?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I was the High School OF equivalent of Jon Jay
Wouldn’t be too popular with the SABR crowd.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
I guess it's time we made you a candidate for the VEB Preferred Club.
I’ll be your sponsor if you want. The cigars are awesome and they validate your parking.
Jerk.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Yep
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Is HollidaysofThunder now totally awesome?
[X] Yes
[ ] NO
by mattybobo on Dec 14, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
aw Hell yes
[√] Yes
[ ] No
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Definite yes.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
...
[√] Yes
[] No
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Can Luhnow do that?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Ask VEP...
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WOW
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
I was actually thinking he looked thinner than he used to.
Remember that time when a P-D commenter told him to get off his “fat ass” in a QnA? And Mo was like “Take a closer look — I’m not fat!!!” Kinda funny.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
I do not remember that
Man, Mo is awesome
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
eh, any GM could have made that comment
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
by IHeartBoog on Dec 14, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Allow me to refresh your memory
Ron Kinder: I am a long time Cardinal fan living in Colorado. I have observed you from afar and I must tell you I am absolutely UNIMPRESSED with anything that you have done. You think we can win with the type of bull pen we had and thanks to Duncan we had decent starting pitching, but you sit on your Butt and don’t help them when we had a chance. We need your predessor back who at least had some guile and did something rather than you sitting on your hands saying, “Be Patient”. I love the Cardinals and we should not be put in the situation that you have us in. Get off your fat Butt and do something for God’s sake. Keeping Chris Duncan in left field is an absolute disaster waiting to happen. Go after the Rockies Left fielder and give up some of the pitchers we have. And whatever you do, build a bull pen!
Bernie Miklasz: Thank you for your kind words, and you may want to start looking closer than from a far…I’m not fat. But as for your brilliant ideas, I hear you and will consider them even though you show distain for me. Hey nothing personal, best Mo.
Link
As it turns out, Mo did take Mr. Kinder’s advice and went after that Rockies LF. (I realize it says “Bernie” but it’s actually Mo using Bernie’s account for the chat or something.)
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
First question on that page:
Wing: Mo –
Any interest in Furcal at SS next season if the Dodgers don’t resign him before he hits FA?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
$70 * 3 times a week * 52 weeks = $10920
Wow, Mo must make more money than me.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Now that I know the context
I have “You’re the best around” from Rocky playing in my mind for some reason.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 14, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
No way
Swear it’s Rocky. Now I have to check.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 14, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
#lazymerrycrasmus
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Dec 14, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
How did this happen
This would usually be the type of thing that is right in my wheelhouse.
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 14, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
My name is azruavatar!
For da dudes who don’t know me
I know I’m from da west but I can teach you how to torty!
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Dec 14, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
How does this help him?
He said he can’t breathe, not “I don’t know how.”
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Just wanted to make sure it wasn't a case of semantics.
Oh, he’s died from lack of oxygen now. Hmm, devil you say.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
And for some reason
this fact makes me chuckle every time.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
this is what you get when rap becomes ok for white people to like
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Application denied:
You used all lowercase in the subject line.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
i'm going to rec every time you make a comment like this.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
ew, no way
it makes us look like pretentious jerks…
…I mean, at least the ones who aren’t…
by hr on Dec 14, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Update
No serious damage to my car. Lugnut stripped and blown tire but other than that, it’s all good.
Also, I think I am getting THE HAT for Christmas
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 14, 2011 7:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Congrats
On both I suppose.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
sorry about the car
congrats on THE HAT. Wear it with pride.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
and Chris Paul ends up in Los Angeles after all- just on the other team
/David Stern’d
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
So, one of those days where
I could just tell that if I kept working on stuff I was going to screw something up. Glad I avoided catastrophe.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 7:30 PM EST reply actions
that's how I was yesterday
left work early, didn’t feel that I would be very focused in the late afternoon
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 14, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
YYYYUUU
DKnobler DKnobler
Still don’t know what the number of winning bid for Darvish was, but sources say the Fighters were very excited by how high it was
i will laugh for five minutes if the cardinals won the bid.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Were the Fish in on this?
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
I bet the Yankees blew everyone out of the water on this...
it would explain their strange silence wrt Buehrle and Wilson.
Sign Roy O
Saw a Tweet (before it crashed) that New York was out
It was Toronto and Texas.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
That's nuts...
CC-Hughes-Nova-Burnett-Garcia-Colon is a garbage rotation. They are in danger of completely missing the playoffs with that.
Sign Roy O
last year they won their division with that rotation
and Hughes is likely a candidate for bounce back. i agree it’s not very good, but i don’t think it’s quite garbage.
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
Olney says Yankees are in
along with cubs, rangers and bjays.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm thinking E-Jax to NYY, personally
but yeah, they could be in on Darvish too.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
So evidently it was on MLB Network Radio that the Cardinals and the Blue Jays are the "front-runners" for Beltran
take that kind of thing for what its worth, but If it comes down to STL of TOR, I would think Carlos would chose the defending champs over the seat cushion of the Yankees/BoSox
Yanks/BoSox/Rays
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
I just wonder how long the Rays will be able to sustain their success
They had a 41.9 Million dollar payroll last season, which ranks 29th in baseball. Sometime in the next few years they are probably going to go into an extended rebuild unless they hit on a whole lot of prospects.
Their recent success in that division is pretty remarkable.
Wow, who payed less than $42m?
Marlins obv, was the other San Diego? Maybe Pittsburgh?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 14, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
The Royals.
Their entire Payroll was 35.7 Mil last year, or about what we payed for Carp, Lohse, and Westy
It's a legitimate concern since they aren't drafting in the Top 5 any longer, but I'm sure it's something they're prepared for and thinking about.
That said, Beltran’s contract won’t be any more than 3 years at the longest, and I think the Rays will last at least that long.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
this
I thought we already established that. I am just waiting for the Rockies to sign Cuddyer.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 14, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Batista, Rasmus and....Thames?
I don’t think the presence of Thames is precluding signing Beltran.
That’d be like saying the presence of Jay or Craig precludes us from signing him.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 14, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Off-season wishlist-
God Tier:
Carlos Beltran or Prince Fielder at 3/higher AAV than Albert
Hong-Chih Kuo
Good Tier:
Cliff Pennington trade
Jeff Francis as a LOOGY
Dave Duncan the Shit Out of That Guy Tier:
Jeremy Bonderman
Taylor Buchholz
Armando Galarraga
Joel Zumaya
Good Times Tier:
Jason Simontacchi
Brett Tomko (jk)
NO Tier:
Corey Patterson
J.C. Romero
Marcus Thames
Dadaist Tier:
Billy F. Crystal
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 7:50 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
i support the dadaist tier
and wish it much success.
also, while we’re having a discussion on the accessibility of VEB, this guy joined in 2001, you guys!
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
did they even have the internet then?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
oh brother.
i meant 2011. hence showing we are accessible as he is a relatively new member.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
We let him slide because of the badass avatar
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
And by badass
you mean terrifyingly scary.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I was thinking about this the other day while I was poopin'
And an enlarged, 6 foot tall chicken is, like, the most terrifying thing in the world
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i'm debating hiding this comment just for aesthetic purposes.
not because it violates the guidelines.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
It's comments like these that make VEB feel accessible.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
It's factually incorrect though
given the presence of babies and velociraptors.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
They aren't the same thing?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
The worst is halloween when velociraptors
dress up like babies dressed as velociraptors. Most dangerous holiday of the year.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
They pretty much are
I have a kid. She seemed really cool until she started getting smarter and it became clear she was hunting me as often I as was hunting her. Then she figured out how to open doors. Despite myself, I muttered “clever girl” right before she went in for the kill.
it was the subject line to which my brain recoils.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
Do my best thinking on the john, you guys
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I do mine in the shower.
… thinking, not poopin’.
by mattybobo on Dec 14, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
pensive poopin'
it’s the best!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I do my best phone conversations there
if I call you, chances are 50-50 I am in the water closet.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
1. velociraptors are, as far as i know, not currently living
2. babies are only alternately terrifying to some people, and this can usually be cured with valium.
3. an enlarged, 6 foot tall chicken pooping is the scariest thing i can currently think of
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
re-read what mysterui said.
he made no mention of the chicken’s bowel movements.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I forgot about all of those living 6 foot tall chickens.
My bad.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Also, not a chicken.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
\o
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Closest reference point to a 6 foot chicken yet.
I’d like to see you top that.
Still not a werewolf.
Probably something about the uncanny valley
And if that doesn’t make me nostalgic for Y2S being around more nothing does.
I, for one,
don’t see how giving valium to a baby will make it any less terrifying.
You see, you spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. ~Jim Bouton
by redbirds34 on Dec 14, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
when i read
enlarged, six foot tall
chicken is not where i thought we were going.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
That was mysterui
not Fritz.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
cock would still be accurate
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
billy crystal joined VEB?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not Terrible
Some arm bar but he’s not dropping his hands.
I don’t like how far his back elbow is away from his body, though.
Boog would have made that play.
by thepainguy on Dec 14, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 20 recs
God tier comment
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
#betterthanpatterson
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but Boston had ton pay a TON more money for Punto
Or something like that.
Boog would have made that play.
I guess Tyler Greene...
…can fill the “good glove but last year played way above his pay grade hitting-wise” slot.
Boog would have made that play.
I go on vacation for a few days
And all hell breaks loose.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Dec 14, 2011 8:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Beer me strength
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
also, you and First mammal to wear pants are the only two people whose usernames elicit amusement from me every time
i want to give you a merit badge for that, but that’s Y2S’s job.
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
Mine's a pun!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
mines from a song!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
...
I am ahead, I am advanced
I am the first mammal to make plans, yeah
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
We were out of beer.
This explains EVERYTHING.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Dec 14, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Japan is getting some new furniture!
Zachary Levine @zacharylevine Close
Nick Stavinoha gets release from Astros minor league deal to sign in Japan. tinyurl.com/7valdeg
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Part of me really wanted to see them give him a starting job...
because it would be hilarious.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
I bet Stav has an awesome year there
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Dec 14, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
That's pretty cool, actually.
He might put up some numbers there.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Should have tried to sign with a Pacific League team, though.
They have the DH.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
From his knees
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Luhnow -- makin' moves!
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
I just got a mental image of Luhnow in his office, reading through some papers
He goes through the list of minor league invitees and lets out an audible “What the fuckkkkkkkkk”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Dec 14, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You want a "wtf?" list of NRIs, look at Seattle's.
Oh, the Dodgers’, too.
The Mariners have Josh Kinney some guy who’s gotten some hype over at Lookout Landing called Philippe Valiquette. The Dodgers have a catcher who’ll be 42 next year.
The biggest wtf? The Phillies have some mystery guy named Raul Valdes.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Raul Valdes who is better than JC Romero?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 15, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
i think it was more of stavinoha asking to be released
so he can sign in Japan.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Oh it was, I was just joking.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe they're paying him in sushi...
…by the pound.
;=8)
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Or Kobe beef....
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I wanted to see him in Korea
Cardinals fan from Korea
by FreeRedbird on Dec 14, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Isn't there a soft ball beer league he can join??
;=8)
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
OT, but I need help for a school project.
I really want to use this commercial, but I can’t figure out what fallacy this would fall under. Ideas? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yiSdjwi_bg
Manchester City: 38 points, 12-0-2, 1st in EPL, +35 GD
Sergio Aguero: 11 G, 3 A
Edin Dzeko: 10 G, 3 A
by cardinalswsbound on Dec 14, 2011 8:07 PM EST reply actions
which part, specifically?
I’m really not seeing any major fallacies. I guess if you stretched, you could say “non-sequitur”, since time travel has really nothing to do with shoes. Or maybe an argument by scenario, since the statement “most advanced shoe on the market today” is affirmed by the fact that someone goes through time specifically to get them.
Or if you really stretched, it could be “begging the question”. Doc Brown wore those shoes in one of the movies. The movie was made in the past. Nike is making a limited edition of shoes to commemorate that movie. Doc Brown bought the shoes from Nike, but they wouldn’t have existed without the (fictional) movie; the movie caused the shoes, which were worn in the movie.
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
If you need help with logical arguments
this will get you well on your way
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Super Early And Admittedly Not Very Useful Yet Cairo Projected Standings!
Link! Yay! Wild Card, baby!
wooooooo
Also, definitely underrating the Rockies.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Dec 14, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
What are Cairo projections
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
miguel cairo throws darts at a wall to see how good teams are.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Dec 14, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Ghost town in 10 years
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I like the clock at the top of that
clicking away the days, hours, minutes and seconds since the Yankees last won the WS. If it were a Cubs blog, the internet would break.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
how have we NOT signed carlos beltran yet?
this is the only reason i come to veb anymore
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
by IHeartBoog on Dec 14, 2011 8:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i'm glad i went back and bought more sets because i am giving a set to my grandpa
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
SEND ONE TO ME
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i totally would but
i don’t want to.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
by IHeartBoog on Dec 14, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I HATE ALL OF YOU
I HAVE USE ICE LIKE ALL THE OTHER PLEBS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
UFC tickets FTW
but don’t worry guys, valentine’s day is coming up too
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
i hope you mean march 17
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
heh heh heh
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
...
…
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
WHAT IS GOING ON
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
google march 14th.
i’m not absolutely certain tehzachattack should have made this joke.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
haha sweet
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
by IHeartBoog on Dec 14, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
obviously
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
God tier comment
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
yeah, sorry, that was a little off color probably
it’s just what i immediately think of after someone mentions Valentine’s Day. old habits die hard.
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
i hate you
but i’m not offended
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Because someone said there would not be math?
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
You are thinking of Pi day
But there is another holiday on March 14
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 14, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, just intentionally being dense.
I got it.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'll vote for that
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
sadly, my current "special lady friend"
doesnt believe in either of those things mentioned in said holliday
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
That’s a shame
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
eh
shes a vast improvement over the previous girlfriend who did, so i’m not complaining
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
YES MARCH 14TH
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
me too. I think I'm bored.
The cards need to get a new toy to keep me amused until spring training.
TortyCraig
My guess as to the meaning of Yadi's neck tattoos is that they are the symbols from an ancient civilization for "Caught Stealing."
by spfldbird on Dec 14, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This has been one of the shortest post seasons for me in recent years
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
It seems short because it has been so eventful.
I always get antsy about this time and can’t wait for spring. I’m an addict.
"Carpe diem! Rejoice while you are alive; enjoy the day; live life to the fullest; make the most of what you have. It is later than you think." ~ Horace
2 months...
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
That was the point I was making. Last season sucked hard!
Then being met with Waino on the DL made it worse but thankfully I discovered VEB in the the off season = made it better
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Next time some asshat in the press asks MO the wrong snarky question
He’s just gonna Hulk up and bear hug the guy till his ribs crack. That’ll teach ’em…
So here's something funny
Obviously, my comment above about Billy Crystal was in jest, but this picture shows a basically perfect position at the Point Of Contact.
Maybe he’s dropping his hands a bit, but he doesn’t look bad at all considering his age.
He had to have played, and was probably at least decent.
Boog would have made that play.
by thepainguy on Dec 14, 2011 8:33 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
i love the faces he makes when hes hitting
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm looking for pics of Scott Bakula taking BP with the Cards
i’m sure i’ve seen some before but I can’t find any
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
His tongue and mouth are in the wrong position, though
needs to have more teeth showing, with tongue gripped lightly between them.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Uh oh.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Beltran or Bust.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
does this mean we sign brandon wood if we don't get beltran?
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
Or Jeff Clement.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Dec 14, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Luhnow and his first trade as a GM
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
So Lowrie was a housewarming gift?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Man, I don't know what's on the other side of that link, but it bombed my PC.
Probably a coincidence, but this thing crashed hard.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
bgh, you forgot about Punto being a switch-hitter
of which you can never have enough.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 14, 2011 8:44 PM EST reply actions
Dear Mr Beltran
Look down at your hand. Focus on the finger between the pinkie and the middle finger. That is known as the ring finger. That is where World Series winners place their rings. You don’t have one ? Then come to St Louis. Ask your old Astros pal Puma. It worked for him. It can work for you.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 14, 2011 8:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
we will love you. Promise!
"Carpe diem! Rejoice while you are alive; enjoy the day; live life to the fullest; make the most of what you have. It is later than you think." ~ Horace
Who is in charge of the pies?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Not me. I can't cook or bake.
I’m very good at clapping and cheering though.
"Carpe diem! Rejoice while you are alive; enjoy the day; live life to the fullest; make the most of what you have. It is later than you think." ~ Horace
Nobody was during Albert-Recruitment.
And we wonder why he didn’t feel loved… Holliday was SWIMMING in pies once!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
from the last few pics I've seen of Albert
it looks like hes been enjoying too many pies
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
he doesn't mind now
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Dec 14, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
#pujolscrieswhen
he gets a papercut whilst counting his money
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Heh
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 14, 2011 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Pies should only be accorded to new signs
Not people who profess to want to be a Cardinal for life and have already experienced midwest nice for the past 11 years
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
See? Dee-dee was right.
Do you really think this would have happened if every Cardinal fan had sent Albert just one pie per year? We took him for granted. And so he had to follow the contract that gave him the wherewithal to buy pies for himself.
The Mang did more than Milton could
To make the GOBs look good
Then, lest the feat should lose its lustre
They moved him to another roster
if takes that much money to buy pie
then I hope his gut hurts.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps Deidre, or however you spell it, doesn't bake?
Then Mo should have included pies in the bargaining process, would this have made him feel like family after 11 years?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
You can watch the Wainwright curve coming at you,
Or you can sprint in from the outfield and jump on the pile.
Which side you want to be on is up to you.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 8:49 PM EST reply actions 12 recs
Also:
This is the case for Beltran. He watched the pitch go by with the bases loaded and a chance to go to the World Series. Clearly a life-long Cardinals fan.
Or an unhittable pitch.
by hangingfromatree on Dec 14, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
also, the 2004 playoffs wouldn't have been nearly as amazing
without Beltran going all Beast Mode Barry Bonds on us.
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
I could have lived with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Sweet
I think the Yays are outpacing the Nays thus far.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
I just want to give a big shout out to Sheckie and fink.
These two guys happily sent me items that are very much appreciated and it was extremely cool of them to do so. Fink, I got the cards today and had to laugh at one of them. I did a serious wtf when I saw Ted Powers. I vaguely remember him when he was with the Reds and not at all with the Cardinals. I had a good laugh. And thanks for the ones I didn’t even ask for. They were in really good shape, even if the envelope wasn’t.lol I’m not sure where that envelope has been but it was a little worse for wear.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 14, 2011 9:29 PM EST reply actions
Great! I'm glad they arrived. I wonder what happened to the envelope?
And yeah, enjoy Ted Powers. Great pic, there.
VEB WINTER MEET-UP DISCUSSION
SIGN PRINCE FIELDER
so punto gets the same contract as schu
and we have schu instead of punto? damn. huge downgrade.
on the bright side, t. greene finally gets his shot.
Lots o vitriol lately
Come on people…WE ARE WORLD CHAMPS….WOOOOOOOOOOKIE
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 14, 2011 9:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ok
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Wow. Legos these days are nuts.
My Legos looked like this:
by hangingfromatree on Dec 14, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
heh
am I in the minority if I said I actually liked the Coneheads movie?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
was it the shirt or the conehead?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
shirt looks a little "french" too
understood the conehead, “We’re French” ref also
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 14, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
i get the bowcasters and the blasters.
what’s up with the baseball bat?
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
wookiees don't hit you with a bat. they tear your arms out of the sockets.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
So what's up with the bowcasters and blasters then?
by hangingfromatree on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
well, that's long-range fighting. up close, they don't need bats.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
Bats are for ...
long-range homeruns.
by hangingfromatree on Dec 14, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Hats...are for bats
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You might wanna lay low for awhile
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
things really escalated quickly
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
.
http://free-loops.com/6769-chewbacca-noise.html
sign skip, skip nick #illogic SIGN CARLOS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2011 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
i was on gtalk with a friend the other day, and they said
“I wonder what Chris Carpenter thinks about this whole Albert mess”
I replied with:
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 14, 2011 9:56 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
you have the best chris carpenter pictures
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
it's really not hard
Carpenter always has at least one amusing photo
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 14, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
but does he have a pic of doc halladay holding his luggage in Brazil?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody ever had
Great Divide Brewing Company beers? I just bought a sampler pack and have been impressed so far. Obvious segue into something not about banning…
Hey MooCow
This year when they do the top prospects lists here on VEB, are we still going to try to vote you in? Like we did last year?
2012 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 6-10 at the Kansas City Convention Center! Ask me for more info!
NAhhhhh.....
…I can’t really pass for new anymoore…
:=8(
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
now you're just fucking with me!
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Haven't had that one yet
I have had Hibernation ale, Hoss Rye Lager, and Samurai Rice Ale. I’m having a hard time typing thissss
Samurai always sounded weird to me
was it good?
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
i convinced my friend to buy some the last time we were at the booze store.
he hasn’t gotten back to me.
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Turn your keyboard around.
Duh.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but in case you're serious, every captcha requires only one of the words to be written correctly.
in this case, it’s pretty obvious that the second word is the one you have to decode, but you can tell if you look closely at every captcha, sometimes fonts are funky or you have unusual characters. The word you must decode correctly will consistently be the same font and have the same slant; the other word you can put whatever the hell you want.
but it’s all for a good cause—translating books! Read more here
ha, i knew about how captcha works
I’m just thinking that if my grandpa saw this he probably would rotate his keyboard
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 14, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
yeah you didn't seem like the type to be ignorant about this stuff
and to be fair, I probably would’ve done the same thing haha
Hey, some good news. . . Trent Rosecrans of CBS and his wife Michelle had their first child.
Trent is a former student and a great guy!! Sure he would appreciate a congratulatory note via CBS sports . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Amazon won't sell me a gift card for $0.27.
Kinda bummed.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 10:16 PM EST reply actions
who were you going to give it to?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 15, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHAHA
(hat tip to @mattsebek)
google history for albert pujols
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
awesomesauce
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
holy shit!
you guys, if you wanna read the worst “statistical” analysis ever, check this out!
(warning, may contain handegg)
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
oh, i linked to page 3
what an asshat i am
Sign Hong-Chih Kuo
by tehzachatak on Dec 14, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
about to complain really hard
until i realized i was too lazy to read your disclaimer
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
this kind of says it all
I will rank the quarterbacks in order based upon my own subjective feelings as to who was best.
this guy should be shot for even mentioning Tebow in this article
While quarterbacks aren’t primarily rushers, it is a positive thing if your QB can make things happen with his legs. Michael Vick, Tim Tebow, and Steve Young are more effective quarterbacks because the defense has to be aware of their scrambling.
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Fixed.
this guy should be shot for even mentioning Tebow in this article
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Your daily December Christmas song:
The Brian Setzer Orchestra – Gettin’ in the mood (for Christmas)
Glenn would approve, I think.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 10:35 PM EST reply actions
Comments upthread
Although this is not the first tim I have made such a post I will make another. VEB has it’s flaws, but for a die hard cards fan, who seldom gets to watch games this was a site for me to get good reviews, jokes when i need it and provided others with like minds.
Some things have changed since I joined, there seems to be more conversation about sabermetrics and such and although I’m not huge into that believe it gets a broader audience.
This has never been the stl today blogs and dont see it becoming it either, and think any accusations of bad blog aren’t fitting. Some people in here irritate me at times, but when it comes to it Tom selleck(spelling?) said it best baseballs a game, games are supposed to be fun
one more thing, I may not have very many comments, but have been coming here for quite a bit. Thought I’d add my to cents to the bragging contest above
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Dec 14, 2011 10:38 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
sup, mr. 320?
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
is there really a ranking of users?
ha…
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Dec 14, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
UID
"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."
-the red baron
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
ok so where do you see it at
..although i come often i dont often look at that stuff or other users profiles for that matter
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Dec 14, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Go to your profile and look at the VEB portion down where the blogs are listed.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
i may have missed it
was splitting attention..thanks
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Dec 14, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
wrecked
for tom selleck reference
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
it's on of my favorite
baseballish/chic flick movies
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Dec 14, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
maybe chic flick is too harsh
but it’s not just baseball
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Dec 14, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
tom selleck is one of my favorite actors
laugh at me if you want VEB, but Magnum PI is one of my top 5 TV shows
I though he did an excellent job as Eisenhower as well
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
i have the baseball card with
big hurt and selleck on it promoing the movies in Yankees unis
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Dec 14, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
i like that dennis haysbert
is in two of the best baseball movies of all time
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 14, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
You know,
that thought had never occurred to me until now.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 15, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
go to bed before midnigth?
but i have to
by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'm reading through Nick Hornby's Fever Pitch right now
Opening line:
I fell in love with [baseball] as I was later to fall in love with women: suddenly, inexplicably, uncritically, giving no thought to the pain or disruption it would bring with it.
Indeed.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Excellent book
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 15, 2011 12:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Fried chicken and beer.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Dec 14, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
2 / 3₨
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason
by The Continental on Dec 14, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
did eh cry?
or have the boys and girls club at his press conference?
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Dec 14, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Tearaway jerseys.
Teach Me How To Torty
by HollidaysofThunder on Dec 14, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Bobby Valentine
sign skip, skip nick #illogic SIGN CARLOS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2011 2:46 AM EST up reply actions
A gift that keeps on giving.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I can't wait for this to play out
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 16, 2011 6:37 AM EST up reply actions
Late Nate VEB:
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
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