The NL Central, minor gambles, and Jimmy Rollins
by DanUpBaby on Dec 1, 2011 11:26 AM EST
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PrintFear not, everyone: The Cubs are out of the Albert Pujols sweepstakes in favor of signing David DeJesus, who gives us an example of just how expensive middle-of-the-road difference-maker free agents might be in this offseason—he's costing them two years, $10 million, with an option of some kind. For David DeJesus that might not be worthy of remarks; for DeJesus at 32, coming off his worst season in Oakland's offensive graveyard, it's a minor gamble.
The Cardinals look ready to make their own minor gamble at shortstop, where Rafael Furcal—older and less consistent than DeJesus—could be looking for a two-year deal of his own. Unfortunately, I'm not sure John Mozeliak's laudable effort to keep saying Tyler Greene's name until Furcal's agents remember who he is is going to successfully drive Furcal's price down, but given the Cardinals' security elsewhere and their willingness to play Daniel Descalso at second base they can probably afford to turn, say, Skip Schumaker and Ryan Theriot's $6 million into Furcal in 2012 and worry about getting burned on it in 2013, when Ryan Jackson is ready to become a .220-hitting cult hero.
While we struggle to know anything about what's going on with Pujols and Prince Fielder, these free-agency triage moves are the most interesting part of the Hot Stove League. The Cubs have successfully replaced Kosuke Fukudome with his non-union American equivalent, and steeled themselves to deal with a potentially awkward situation in which Alfonso Soriano is a perfectly useful short-side platoon guy for the last three years and $54 million of his Major League career.
The Cardinals, for their part, already have Adam Wainwright coming back and a full season of having not signed Ryan Franklin and Miguel Batista to look forward to. But it's at shortstop that they have the clearest chance to upgrade, Pujols or no Pujols, which is why they've been linked to Jimmy Rollins, of all people.
Rollins talk, predicated on the idea that John Mozeliak can't successfully hoodwink the Phillies into believing Chase Utley is a free agent instead, after the jump.
Objection one: Of all the players currently in free agency and not named Albert Pujols, I think Jimmy Rollins benefits the most from not moving to another team in mid-career. Rollins is not an actual Hall of Fame shortstop, but he has an MVP Award, he's accumulated 1866 hits already, and he's played 11 seasons for the same team, which has gone from irrelevant to perennial World Series contenders over the course of his career.
If he's looking at his legacy, his only way to add to his Hall of Fame cred if he moves to the Cardinals is if he has one of those years that's good enough that he gets all the credit for the Cardinals repeating—he'd probably have to do about what he did last year, which was his best season since 2008.
But if he sticks around for the Phillies until he's 37, getting 150 hits a year, he's got 2600 hits for the same team, which would be the most in team history and do great things for the BBWAA voters who still hate free agency. The Phillies, admittedly, don't have nearly the same pressure to resign Rollins as the Cardinals do Pujols, so he could look elsewhere if he's being lowballed, but it makes sense for him to make his quixotic chase of 3000 hits with the Phillies if he wants to be yet another guy elected to the Hall of Fame ahead of Alan Trammell.
Objection two: Jimmy Rollins wants to stick around until he's 37. The list of shortstops who were still effective at 37 isn't exclusively superstars—Honus Wagner and Ozzie Smith were both All-Star caliber, while Omar Vizquel, Larry Bowa, Pee Wee Reese, and Rabbit Maranville were all useful—but at the same time, a lot of players who were much better than Jimmy Rollins at 32 were much worse at 37.
Derek Jeter this year is a good example—his defense was as terrible as ever, and his offense wasn't quite good enough to make him an average everyday player. Trammell and Barry Larkin couldn't play full seasons.
Objection three: I actually like Jimmy Rollins a lot as a baseball player—the surprise power, the triples, the stolen bases, even the counting stat accumulation—but Rafael Furcal just makes too much sense for the Cardinals at shortstop, whether they sign Albert Pujols or not. 34 isn't exactly a great vintage for shortstops, either, but 27 players managed at least two WAR at that age. The age curve for a Rollins contract would be less than forgiving, and I'm sure John Mozeliak knows it: 36, 27, 17, 13, 6.
I can believe that the Cardinals will feel a need to make a splashy free agent move if Albert Pujols goes elsewhere, but I can't believe that it would be signing Jimmy Rollins for three years more than they'd need to offer Furcal for an extra win or win-and-a-half in 2012.
Kyle Lohse and Jake Westbrook will be gone after the season; why wouldn't they chase down a starter? Mark Buehrle or Roy Oswalt would each be much cheaper, available on a short-term deal, and just as popular in St. Louis; C.J. Wilson would be a Rollins-sized gamble and offer the same look-we're-doing-something glow. And Yu Darvish would successfully corner the market on Japanophile VEB authors, if they're interested.
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If the Cardinals are able to re-sign the three-time MVP and keep him at first base for years to come, Adams will get opportunities to prove he can play the outfield.
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he looks like he'd be awful in the outfield,
but it’s certainly worth putting him there while he’s blocked and the Cardinals entertain trade offers, like Brett Wallace at third.
I mean, he can kind of be a Matt Stairs-ish guy, yeah?
Without the awesome BB rate
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my favorite stairs season: -25 runs in 139 games in right field, +26 runs above average as a hitter
it’s like those vince coleman years where he nearly makes up for being a terrible hitter by putting together an all-star-hitter kind of season on the bases.
This clip shows Adams legging out a double, among other things...
http://cardinals.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20004603&c_id=stl
Dude looks light on his feet for a guy who’s probably 260. Still can’t say he looks fit for a corner OF spot though.
He says the Cards told him to work on strikezone management and taking more walks in the AFL. Not sure those goals were accomplished based on his numbers there…
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 1, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
He ought to spend the Offseason with Berkman and or Lego
if he can cut down to 230-35 he might become an asset
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Thanks for the link. Didn't realize how hefty he is. . . . If this is a trend. . . . He'll beef up the team for sure
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
That is what inevitably will happen
but we would like to build some value as a trade chip via:
1.) acting like trading him isn’t our only option
2.) giving him some major league at bats to showcase
by RasmustheRipper on Dec 1, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Wallace is a good example
I am an Adams fan and saw him live 15ish times last season in Springfield. As much as he surprised/impressed with his glove work at first, however, it is difficult to imagine him in the outfield. All that being said, I’m all for trying, particularly if he can drop some weight this offseason. The right frame of reference would be to picture a slightly more svelte, younger Prince Fielder patrolling right/left field.
As a stop gap—and to prove the bat is real/improve his trading stock (if Albert resigns)—it seems like there isn’t much downside to giving it a whirl.
Wouldn't he still be blocked as an OF?
Holliday is in left, is getting slower, and probably has a below average arm — I don’t think he can move to right.
Adams has to be around the same speed, if not slower. If he can’t play in RF, he’s blocked by Holliday in LF. Even if he COULD play RF, he’d have to be better than Craig, which seems questionable even assuming defensive adequacy.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
Damn, I KNEW someone would say that but didn't want to bother mentioning it.
Should have trusted my instincts, clearly.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
4 man outfield?
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
He needs to repeat what he did
His first half was a monster one but his second half slid off. Still finished with 30 HR’s and 100 RBI’s a very rare feat in the minors.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't check his average
but it looks like he had 15 HRs in both the first 60 games and his last 60 games.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
didn't he have some sort of second-half injury? AFL, too, no?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Meanwhile, in other Hotstovery,
Praise Jeebus, the Flying Spaghetti Monster and the Gods of Baseball for leading the Cardinals not into the temptation that apparently is Bobby Valentine, so as to leave him available to practice his genius on the Boston Red Sox, who deserve him.
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
He's a bad TV analyst
Doesn’t make him a bad manager
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Example: John Madden
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Tony Dungy
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
John Madden was a far better analyst than Bobby Valentine
If for nothing else other than entertainment value
Wait, people ten years younger than me only got to see John Madden the caricature.
This saddens me.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 1, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Look how many legs this turkey has!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
And look at that oversized novelty bus! Ha ha! What a crazy old man!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
john madden was a good analyst.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
He did pick the Cardinals all the way through the postseason.
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
Didn't say that, or imply it.
But he would have been bad for the Cardinals.
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
Doesn't saying that he'd be bad for the Cardinals imply that he's a bad manager?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Okay, then why would he be bad for the Cardinals?
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Because he was a bad analyst on television.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
o_o
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I'm stating why people are critical of Valentine, not my personal beliefs.
See my comment below.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
You linked to this post.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yes, I know
I say “He’s a bad analyst, not necessarily a bad manager”
He says “Didn’t say he’d be a bad manager, just bad for the Cardinals”
I say “Why would he be bad for the Cardinals?”
You say “Because he was a bad analyst”
I say “o_o”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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TEH CARDINAL WAY
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I nominate this for WSOY
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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i'll take it into consideration
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
I should probably know what "WSOY" is but I don't.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 1, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Worst subthread of the year
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Why does "of" make the acronym but "the" doesn't?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
It's modeled after the ROY award.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
no, its modeled after the LOY award
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
LOY?
Ah, just got it.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
no.
The award is on hiatus until dan fixes the search function.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
The search function breakdown is horrible.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 1, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
you mean ROTY?
/drives subthread further down (up?) the WSOY rankings
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I think that someone with close organizational ties like Matheny was a better idea than someone like Valentine
Did the Cardinals even interview Valentine? He didn’t seem to be on their radar at all.
They did not interview him and there is nothing to suggest he was on their radar.
Valentine and the Cardinals being in the same article typically involved the author of said article spitballing about the replacement for TLR.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No. I doubt if they thought his crack-the-whip managerial style would work well with this iteration of the team.
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
I honestly don't know much about Valentine's style as a manager
but the Cardinals made it pretty clear what kind of person they were looking for, and Valentine didn’t seem to fit.
Not that I disagree with you
But we just won the World Series with that kind of manager
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I don't think a new manager would get away with the things LaRussa did with the players.
He was the face of the Cardinals and they played on his team. A new manager would be coming in to their clubhouse and “cracking the whip”. Big difference.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I disagree that TLR was that kind of manager.
In my understanding of the phrase. He gave wide latitude to many players, was not wont to get in the way of veterans, wasn’t one to give marching orders. His whip could sting without cracking.
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
"...wasn't one to give marching orders..."
This seems off-base to me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Or Theriot.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 1, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Holliday ?
in Game effing 6 of the World Series ? What was he thinking ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Holliday got picked off once.
Thurston was a far worse baserunner and Theriot has his own metric (TOOTBLAN) because he is such a horrible baserunner.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 1, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
TOOTBLAN
being an acronym for ….?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
thrown out on the basepaths like a nincompoop.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Thanks
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
No we didn't.
TLR was hands off in the clubhouse, and a protect your players, for the most part type of manager. Valentine is anything but that. He’s been known for calling his guys out publicly, and pissing off a lot of people while he’s doing it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yes, this is the Valentine who would not have been good in St. Louis.
Might work in Boston, but I won’t be surprised to see a very volatile time in the clubhouse and in the local media.
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
yeah, tony totally didn't call his guys publically
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
You were 8 the last time Valentine managed.
You have no idea the kinda crap he pulled. If Franklin had a bad outing, TLR would do everything he could to put the blame somewhere other than Franklin. Valentine would bus roll him. And everyone else. Valentine never made mistakes, it was always his players. And while it’s true that players play the game, TLR did a great job of deflecting pressure from his players and back on himself. Unless they were in his doghouse, obviously.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Crack the whip = if you don't play specifically how the manager wants you to, then you get punished, correct?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
You get punished in a particular way.
Not the TLR way.
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
To me, Crack the whip
is more of a get chewed out, run extra laps for screwing up style. Getting benched/traded isn’t “Crack the whip” per se
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
And get directly called out in the media.
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
Uh yeah, it probably does
Considering a lot of his bad analysis comes in the form of misunderstanding proper strategy.,
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Not really
His bad analysis came in the form of saying random, irrelevant shit
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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i'm not sure how this is a disagreeing comment
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
nope
but being a bad manager does
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
i have no clue if he is a good manager or not
those mets teams were pretty good
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
How bad was he? See endless comments, but have never seen him?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Bobby Valentine has described himself as a Bill James disciple who has been greatly influenced by James's work.
When managing in Texas, in the 80s and long before Moneyball, he hired a sabermetrician and friend of James. He won an NL pennant and a championship while managing in Japan. Maybe it’s because I don’t watch much ESPN and found the fake mustache costume amusing, but I don’t think Valentine is a bad manager.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
keeps him out of the broadcast booth.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I bet he is a bad analyst.
I don’t know that there is such a thing as a good analyst on ESPN who hasn’t been entrenched for years. I’ll repeat that I don’t watch it much but I think Tim Kurkjian and Jayson Stark are relatively good. Then again, I also love Peter Gammons. Most every other analyst on ESPN is pretty awful, from what I’ve seen. It seems to me that ESPN is okay with horrible analysts; otherwise, they wouldn’t alone their horrible analysts to drone on and on the way that they do and then sign them to extensions.
I agree with you. I’m glad Valentine is back in baseball and look forward to him managing the Red Sox.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
stark and kurkjian are the best on espn.
i maintain that sutcliffe is the absolute worst of the bunch.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Kurkjian?
He’s not the worst, but I can’t think of any time I heard him say something smart. Maybe I’ve been missing it.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
Sutcliffe was so bad that I turned him off in favor of Thai - which I hardly speak. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
this
He won an NL pennant and a championship while managing in Japan.
Seems unpossible
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
astral projection
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'm so glad he signed with the Red Sox
So that VEB can comment and fixate on his suckiness anyway…
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
Before I finish reading the post I just want to say that this sentence, Dan, is awesome for like three or four reasons:
The Cubs have successfully replaced Kosuke Fukudome with his non-union American equivalent, and steeled themselves to deal with a potentially awkward situation in which Alfonso Soriano is a perfectly useful short-side platoon guy for the last three years and $54 million of his Major League career.
Poor Alan Trammell
Anyway, Rollins only make sense in that he’s a good shortstop, and the Cardinals are probably in the market for shortstops. So he’s worth looking into. But I think Mr. Up covers the basic reasons why he doesn’t make all that much sense for us, so why bother since he’s getting older and will need a fairly expensive multi-year deal. How many multi-year deals of a questionable or risky nature can we really be expected to be involved in at the same time?
Any trade prospects at short? Drew?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
When should we expect to see Matheney's coaching staff finalized?
Well, more importantly, I’ve not heard a thing about Oquendo. What’s up?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
he's back. they announced that awhile ago.
actually, they announced the whole team
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
tell Tackle Box who won the world series
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 1, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I already know who won the world series
I watch ESPN.
It was the Phillies, duh.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
by Tackle Box on Dec 1, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Wow, I figured they would've said the Red Sox like every other year.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Nope. Philly's pitching is just too dominant.
Can’t be beat.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I guess since it worked for the Giants last year.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I heard it was the Mets.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
BUT WHAT ABOUT BACON?!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
THE OZARKS PRODUCE A FAIR AMOUNT OF IT
DO ACTIVE VOICE BETTER
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
SOME PEOPLE WHO LIVE OR AT LEAST WORK IN THE OZARKS PRODUCE A FAIR AMOUNT OF IT.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Wouldn't it be the pigs
that acutally produce the bacon? Would the packing house actually just harvest it?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Sounds like quite the industry.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
You have to get quite
an education to enter that industry.
And it’s pork bellies, I believe, that bacon comes from.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
the vast majority of it does
although I prefer pork jowl bacon
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
or use the Italian Guanciale
if you want anyone else to eat it
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
YEAH! LET'S GET IT RIGHT, PEOPLE!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
lawyers love metonomy
comes from all those years of talking about corporations like they are actual persons.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
I raised pigs when I was in high school.
Home grown bacon is the best. One year the hog I raised was the Reserve Grand Champion at the Montgomery Co. Fair.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Montgomery County, Md?
have been to that fair a couple of times. Used to play in a band that played at a bar just off the fairgrounds. You could hear the demolition derby going on between songs.
youneverknow
no, Missouri.
but we also had a demolition derby at our Co. fair
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Oquendo said he'd be back even if he wasn't the manager
I think most people missed this somehow
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 1, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
sb nation st. louis just got some additional analytics put in
here are the top three android phones to visit the site this month, because I am a little confused by the third one:
1. htc evo 4G
2. motorola droid x
3. sony xperia arc
the only reasonable explanation for this is that someone with an xperia arc visited sb nation st. louis 770 times in the last month.
for any other mobile nerds, the top 10 devices on sb nation st. louis over the last month:
1. iphone of any kind (7,090)
2. ipad of any kind (3,648)
3. htc evo 4G (1,603)
4. ipod touch of any kind (1052)
5. motorola droid x (1020)
6. sony xperia arc (770)
7. htc droid incredible (553)
8. motorola droid (522)
9. motorola droid 2 (403)
10. samsung epic 4G (363)
12,000 additional pageviews came from mobile devices it didn’t recognize.
maybe we have more Chinese viewers than we think
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's a single user?
Or are there more Sony Xperia Arcs out there?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
they're actually cool-looking phones,
but I am stunned to learn that anyone bought them, let alone that enough people bought them to hit the site multiple times per day.
Perhaps they were free when you renew your plan?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Maybe they are international users?
I’ve never even heard of this phone. Sony has no market share here.
They are not know to rock a microphone, so this could be correct.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
It's bigger in Europe...maybe Aranathor?
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
It's probably Volsncards' phone....
697 of those visits resulted in attempted posts.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 1, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
VolsnCards5
stuffing ballots since 2010
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
interesting that top phone of the third largest carrier was the top android choice.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
for a long time it had no competition from the iphone or from similarly-specced android devices
plus the whole first-4G-in-the-states thing.
somehow none of that worked in the palm pre’s favor, which will make me sad forever.
i'll agree with this.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I am waiting for my samsung galaxy to arrive in the mail
can’t wait
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 1, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
let me know how you like it.
i’m trying to decide on the brand for my next phone and samsung has been less than stellar for my mother and brother, who both have samsung smartphones. i think i’m leaning HTC but i’m not sure.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
I was going to get an htc but I ended up plunking down more money for the galaxy
I really was surprised how much I liked smartphones the first time I got one. so I figure I may as well go with something that rocks.
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 1, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
but will do
hoping that I like it a lot. this new generation one has longer battery life, so that is encouraging
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 1, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
thanks.
and thanks for keeping it civil the other night. considering who was involved that could have gotten really ugly.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I was wondering if I was toeing the line but I think I presented my case pretty well without offending anyone
which since I can get passionate about that stuff, I was pretty proud of myself. thanks for not getting ticked off at me as well :)
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 1, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
it was an innocent little joke, intended to make people laugh and/or troll others.
i wasn’t interested in having a discussion, thus wasn’t participating (having to work and study for a test notwithstanding).
it was more the combination of people that drew my concern. all through work i was getting notifications and quickly realized it might have turned ugly. it was a recent grad friend, my friend’s mom, another recent grad, and a 19 year old freshman girl (the most prominent one), and you, obviously. i was DEATHLY afraid of what i was going to read when i got home.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Just got my new Motorola Triumph
Got it for only $120 on Cyber Monday
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
It's a retread.
They told me about you buying it, and then they had a good laugh at your expense.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 1, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the triumph looks like a really good deal even when it's not on sale
if I weren’t hiding out on a family plan and an inveterate android hater I’d look into it.
the triumph is a great phone. . . .
for me to poop on.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 1, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It seems not to be the best phone stock
I am going to put Cyanogenmod 7 on it once it is done charging. I have it on my tablet and it is pretty solid
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Just got done rooting and installing the custom rom
Was painless. It scored a Quadrant benchmark score of 2196. Which is pretty damn good with no tweaking so far
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
To give you an idea how good that is
My Nook Color got a score of 1986 and something like a Nexus One gets like a 1300
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Not much problems with my tablet
Just put it on my phone so I will see
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
if the Marlins will actually do anything, but they sure are working hard to make their fans believe they’re doing what they can. They’re making a “serious run” on Bell. So, by my count, with help form MLBTR, they’ve been “in” on Pujols, Madson, Carlos Guillen, CJ Wilson, Reyes, Buehrle, and Bell, and kicking trade market tires for Gio Gonzalez, Street, and Sheilds, My guess is they’ll get one of those guys, but you gotta think fans appreciate the apparent effort.
Because Matheny
yeah. at the same time, though, if you're a marlins fan
it’s probably hard to believe this isn’t another one of their spending sprees that will end in a post-world-series firesale.
interesting study on human emotion:
would you rather:
win the world series once every, say, 15 years, have a fire sale after each win, and SUCK for 6-8 years after the win before gradually building back up to your every-15-years championship (but only making the playoffs that 14th and 15th year).
OR
put a competitive team on the field every year (like the cardinals, etc) and take random chance
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Have a competitive team every year and leave the postseason to chance.
I’m happy to have been a Cardinals fan instead of a Marlins fan over the last decade.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 1, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
but were you from 1997-2004?
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
2000, 2001 and 2002 were all pretty good years
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
04 was pretty good,
until they cancelled the post season. That team had a chance to go all the way.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
No, we lost to the Red Sox. It was kind of a big deal.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 1, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you're thinking of the film "fever pitch"
by DanUpBaby on Dec 1, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
yeah jimmy falon would not make a movie based on something that could happen in real life
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Nor would anyone let Jimmy Fallon and Drew Barrymore run onto the field
In real life after a World Series game. That is just crazy.
i'm having some kind of seizure.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
nor would anyone every make a movie where the main character is named lindsay and she's a red sox fan!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
You and your stoic refusal to let the reality of your condition defeat you
and eventually drive you to create a fantasy escapist pseudo-reality!
the secret life of walter fritz-y.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 1, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
impossible
they just now hired Bobby V. No way they could’ve won without him.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
They put our Cardinals in a shitty hotel in a different city!
Bastards.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
kind of a long winded question
i value being competitive every year more than any championships. the playoffs are pretty much luck anyway
and now just for giggles, let all these players accept their offers and let's see what they payroll will look like
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
i'm sorry to ask this here
but i know no other place where i can get so many opinions of people who usually know what they are saying
i need a pre-owned small suv not older than 5 or 6 yrs that gets 20 hwy mpg or better and is not a dodge. the money i am willing to spend is up to $15k
any models you recommend i look into? is that even realistic? i know less about cars than i do about football so please help
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
One of my former bosses swears by the CRV
he commutes ~60 miles each day and absolutely loves those things.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
We loved ours until the communist state of Missouri told us it wouldn't pass an emissions test.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
sounds like you need to find someone to do your inspections for you. . .
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I told the guys that did mine i'd buy four new tires if it passed.
#TheBribeWorked
"He probably misses his old glasses."
i was thinking the same thing
my brother has one and loves it
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Rav4 in the same boat
Smaller SUV but has lot of cargo space
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
similar is vw tiguan
or, cough up 9 bucks and check out the ratings at consumer reports
TLR is gone, long live the king
crvs this year have an all new body
They look very, very nice
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 1, 2011 3:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i like my CRV. if i were shopping again, i'd also look at a subaru forester or legacy.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
Our next car will be a Subaru Forester
(Although I really want their new BRZ.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
my wife wants a forester.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Is he supposed to be impressive?
Hell, I look like that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
he's supposed to have a mustache.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Even taller than pine tree forests MF
See i truncated it to only the two caps
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
oh well, I'm fucked now.....
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Youngster
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
You are not taller that pine tree forests!
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
YOU DON'T KNOW ME, I-MUSIAL-LY-AM!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahahaha
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
probably a steadier paycheck
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Mine will be the driver of said new automobile.
I get to keep the Outback Sport.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
If mine gets one
then I get a new truck a couple of years later.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
i had a 2003 honda pilot for a long time which my sister now has
not exactly small, but gets about 21 mpg and has never had the slightest maintenance issue. loved that car.
We really like our GMC Acadia/ Chevy Traverse.
Don’t know if you can get into one for that price, though. And I’m not sure it falls into the SUV category, but it is all wheel drive, and has a ton of storage. Especially if you toss the kids out.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
can you kid-toss while it's in motion, or is it just not designed for that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
While frowned upon legally,
yes, it’s entirely feasible.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
CRV or RAV4 are your only good options
for small SUVs. The others don’t generally get great reviews.
My Honda Pilot gets 20, sometimes even 22 or 23 if I push it, on the highway and my wife loves it, but it’s not a small SUV.
a question for you.
Is there a how to that you can point me too for the motion pics that you put together (The pitcher frame by frame in one photo is what I’m referring to.) I finally figured out the multiple photos / second function on the camera, and I’d like to do some of those with the hockey shots I’ve gotten this year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
what program do you use for editing?
CodyG pointed me to some tutorials for doing this with GIMP last year.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Picasa for the most part.
alternate answer,
What is this editing of which you speak.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Pretty sure you'll have to use a more extensive program
to get the layering that you are seeking.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Is Gimp free?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
if you want to pay for something
Amazon currently has Corel PaintShop Pro X4 as one of its lightning deals. $33. No clue what it does or if that is a good deal.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
rec'd
super cute.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
they also have
these for whoever was looking for headphones the other day.
lightning deal price $20
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
ah.. well, superior cameras have multiple exposure modes
mine doesn’t and i also don’t have a tripod
so i just do those in photoshop
select a rough outline of the subject, paste is a new layer, delete around the edges and turn down its opacity
a couple of those took me up to 4-5 hrs (i’m sure there’s easier ways to do it)
so i am looking forward to buying a Canon 7D which should have multiple exposure
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I am looking forward to figuring out how in the fuck to properly use the 7d.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
also, I need a $2500 lens.
Which sucks.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
reading the manual is a good start
also, which lens is that?
get a refurbished or used one
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
Something like
this. I need to be able to zoom out enough for shots on the close side of the ice, and in enough for the other end. With the 70-300, all I can take is headshots when they’re close to me.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you can get a sigma with the same parameters for a fraction of the cost
did that photo business take off by the way?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
not really.
Still getting our feet wet.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I don't see a sigma with anything close to those params.
50-300 is the closest I can find.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It's not nearly as sexy as that cannon, is it?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
not dure what DG IF means
but here
off-brand lenses often perform just as good
the canon one is great but i cannot justify shelling out the money for it unless i am making money from it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I agree. There is no way in hell I'm shelling out anything close to that at this point.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
get a tamron or a sigma, try it out, see if you even need that range
don’t forget that lenses that have a big range tend to have problems on either side
look at nikon lenses too, they might be cheaper
or just stack your lenses
btw, that sigma i posted above, they make those for canon too, i just didn’t pay attention to what i was pasting also with sigma “OS” = Canon “IS”, don’t know what the IS equivalent is in Tamrons
point is, you can always go cheaper than the brand names
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I have a lot of nicer but older Canon lenses from actual camera's.
I wonder if I can convert them over
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
converter and adapter rings galore are out there
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
You think I could hook them up to my cell phone camera
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
ha
ask these guys
they have all kinds of weird ghetto low budget solutions
they might take it as a challenge and make it happen
don’t expect to fit the concoction in your pants pocket though
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
It says it will fit pentax and samsung.
Do those interchange with the eos body? It looks like it from the reviews, but I don’t see anything in the description.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
nvm, it does
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
do you need a small suv for actual suv-like things, or for suv-like storage capacity?
I’d look at the ford escape in its various permutations—the 2009+ model with the 2.5 gets 20-28, the older ones with the 2.3 get 20-23. actually for 15k you might be able to get one of the escape hybrids if you looked for it; they got 34-31 and 30-28, depending on the age. they’re all reasonably reliable, getting more reliable after the 2008 refresh, and there are mazda and mercury versions out there that are functionally identical.
for more suv-like things momup had, when we up children were actual children, and enjoyed a gmc envoy, which had a million platform twins—chevy trailblazer, buick rainier, oldsmobile bravada, isuzu ascender, saab 9-7x—and got 19 MPG on the highway.
while I'm wasting time comparing domestic compact suvs
both saturn vue models are also relatively reliable (I’m going by truedelta numbers), relatively cheap, and have cool mild hybrid variants.
I'd steer away from Saturn, as repairs are going to be a PITA in the future
with Saturn being discontinued.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I thought about that, but the 2008+ vues shouldn't be a problem
now that there’s an identical chevy model being sold to fleets.
All I know, is that when I was still doing Chevy,
I had a real tough time getting parts for anything that was Saturn. On the flip side, the price should plummet for the same reasons I stated above.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It is what it is
did you ever get another email/your jersey? Turns out the missus got 3 emails: First a confirmation, then a correction (undercharged for shipping), and finally the cancellation.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
No, nothing.
Just my order status on their site which says unshipped.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I tried to call the bastards this morning
but got a recording saying they were experiencing, “higher than average call volume.” The poor guy that recorded it sounds so dejected, it almost makes me not want to call back. Almost.
Heres the body of the email they sent:
Unfortunately the order you placed with Mitchell & Ness has been cancelled because the item you have ordered has sold out and is not going to be restocked. The authorization on your card has been voided out and the funds will go back into your account within 24-48 hours.
The Black Friday Sale has been extended to Tuesday, November 29th 11:59pm EST if you would like to place another order.
If you have any questions please call our customer service department at 1-866-879-6485 during the hours listed below or email us at info@mitchellandness.com.
Bots: feel free to spam that email address all you want
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i need a an suv that allows you to lay the back seats down
to fit 200 lbs of dogs and suitcases to take to the in-laws several times a year
plus haul stuff home from ikea
i’m a simple gal
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
Seriously, go drive a traverse or Acadia.
Two rear rows of seats that will both fold down. Ours is great.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Test that seat
before you buy it. I hate GMs seat flipping processes.
yeah, I know.
first Mo adamantly says that he’s not going to trade Colby, then the next thing you know, he’s trading Colby. Just tell us up front, damnit.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
the canonical dog SUV is the honda element
that might be worth checking out. 20 mpg in the city and the highway, interior materials that are (according to my dog-mom friend) easy to, uh, deal with.
definitely the element
If you plan on looking at one let me know, my dad’s a manager at a honda dealership and he’ll see you get a good deal and good service.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 1, 2011 3:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Something to consider:
Have you thought about a station wagon like the Jetta TDI? They get around 44 mpg on the highway and run diesel, but the fuel costs and maintenance (read: brakes, tires, etc.) will be far lower than a small SUV.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Depends.
I know a ton of local diesel mechanics that will work on the TDI engine and parts aren’t all that expensive either.
The only really expensive issues are changing out the timing belt (~$1000 or so every 150,000 miles) and any transmission problems that require new parts to fix as used or OEM parts are impossible to source.
That said, I know several TDI owners with 2001 and 2002 models that are currently closing in on 400,000 miles with little to no heavy maintenance besides timing belt and clutch plate replacement.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
there's always been a crap shoot with VW
many, like the folks you know have cars that run forever & have zero problems, but i feel real sorry for those who buy the lemons of the bunch. i too knew many VW’s who travel far into the 100K’s & had little to no problems
Balls
a small SUV is too small to do all this, what are you driving now?
again, email me & we’ll talk
Balls
Good luck with a Hybrid Escape right now...
since they are discontinuing that model, the used market for those has gone through the roof. You’re basically paying mint used on any under 100,000 miles at this point.
We’ve been happy with our ’07 Vue, but it is what it is: A cheaper SUV.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
thanks everyone for the pointers
i’m writing ALL these down and going on a car shopping test driving tour this weekend
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
honda of frontenac has lots of cars on the ground right now
Meaning theyd love to give you one. Of course it depends if you want to travel to frontenac.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 1, 2011 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Frontenac?
Those filthy rich old people are sketchy you know :-P
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 1, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
I notice how man people can't seem to hit the toilet these days
I mean unless it’s first thing in the morning, you should pretty much shoot where you’re aiming.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 1, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
You would think so
But sometimes the pee splits in a V and it goes around the toilet
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Hyundai Sante Fe
Been one of the best, most reliable, and best priced vehicles I have ever owned.
by Macarver hater on Dec 2, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
There's a good list of those right now:
Honda CRV, Saturn Vue, Chevy Equinox (2010 and newer), Toyata RAV4, Ford Escape.
I’m a Vue owner myself.
In terms of used, I would guess you’ll get the best price on a ‘06-’08 Vue, but the CRV and RAV4 will probably provide you the best value. I drive an Escape for work and they are also pretty nice vehicles.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
How about a Toyota Rav-4? Don't anything about its service record
but my brother-in-law loves his.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 1, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
one of these
Is perfect for your needs. They kinda drop in value quickly, so you can gobble up slightly used one for a good price.
Grit != flat out sucking.
#1 ranked public school in the midwest, haters.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 1:43 PM EST reply actions
(regional)
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
(no one cares)
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 1, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
you owned the system!
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Sangamon State!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I graduated from sangamon state.
TortyCraig
My guess as to the meaning of Yadi's neck tattoos is that they are the symbols from an ancient civilization for "Caught Stealing."
My niece went there pre-med.
Then she went to SIU-C med school. Of which she only spent her first year at Carbondale and then she went back to UIS for the last three years but it was still SIU-C’s program. Strangest way I’ve ever heard of to do it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
wouldn't surprise me if it were.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
for some reason SIUC doenst have most of their Med program in-house, its up there in Springfield
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
She did very well in it.
She pretty much gets offered any job she goes after. But then again, she’s just that type of person. She over-achieves like gangbusters.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Well, there are people in Springfield.
Otherwise, they’d be treating deer in Carbondale.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
How is the University of Michigan - Dearborn on there but not the University of Michigan - Ann Arbor?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
because michigan sucks
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
Oh, regional
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
what makes a school regional
as opposed to national?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
it basically just excludes the biggest state school in each state, which i guess are "national"
however, it’s confusing in the fact that UMKC is included in the “national” category but places like minnesota-duluth are not.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
The same thing that make a free agent Type A vs. Type B.
i.e., there are some easy calls but overall it’s pretty random, and largely based on Collective Wisdom.
If it sucks they call it regional...
Sign Roy O
by guayzimi on Dec 1, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
...
8. What are Regional Universities and Regional Colleges? Like National Universities, Regional Universities offer a full range of undergraduate programs and provide graduate education at the master’s level. However, they differ by offering few, if any, doctoral programs. Of the 626 Regional Universities, 263 are public, 350 private, and 13 are for profit.
The 370 Regional Colleges, including 95 public institutions, 259 privates, and 16 for profits focus on undergraduate education but grant fewer than 50 percent of their degrees in liberal arts disciplines. The Regional Colleges category includes institutions where in some cases only a small number of the degrees awarded are at the bachelor’s level.
The Regional Universities and Regional Colleges are placed into one of four geographic categories (North, South, Midwest, and West).
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 1, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Because neither are as fine an institution as the University of Northern Iowa.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 1, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm wearing a UNI T-shirt right now!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
i have one!
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, my wife is really proud to have graduated from such an elite institution.
Oh wait, no one in the real world fucking cares.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 1, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
St. Louis natives only care where you went to high school.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
You know it is only $45 to fly from STL to Kirksville
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
WAY too much.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
no, the airline pays you to fly to Kirksville.
you have to pay them to fly away from there
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
oh, well if it's free then awesome.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
i will say that i have just as good of a job making just as good money as a friend who went to stanford undergrad and yale law
but that’s probably not typical
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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A degree now in days barely gets your foot in the door
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
and the degree
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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My finance degree went to shit fast in 08
I have been looking to go back to get an Engineering degree or at least get IT cert’s. My biggest regret of my life is not sticking with Computer Engineering
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
you picked about the worst time ever to graduate with a finance degree.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
From 2005 to 2008 I was making absolute bank
Then poof it was all gone
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
yay accounting.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
yeah. i guess i meant like a graduate degree may mean more than a bachelors' degree or an associate's degree, even within the same field
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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stop saying industry.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 1, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
industry
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Apparently I didn't even need a degree to get the job I have now!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
my boyfriend is a financial analyst and held that job for five years before he got his degree
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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yes, but all biglaw jobs pay the same more-or-less.
This is a weird industry.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 1, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
i agree on both counts.
i just think its funny that he paid 4x (at least) what i did for the same outcome
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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This education & industry model is totally sustainable, you guys.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 1, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
sure, but getting a biglaw position out of UA (i think you said you went there)
is probably pretty rare – both because there aren’t many biglaw positions in Phoenix and other big firms in other markets probably don’t recruit heavily out of UA.
ergo, i’m sure you were at the tippy top of your class, did law review, had excellent undergard grades, etc. (and good for you, btw).
But going to YLS pretty much guarantees you a biglaw job if you want it (even if you don’t try very hard in school), in any market.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 1, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
This is correct
The friend from Yale could get the same job in Phoenix if he/she wanted it, but could also get similar jobs across the country.
i suppose that's true. and a good point. a lot of people in my class got biglaw jobs, but i don't think that's the case anymore
the big firms like latham, kirkland, sullivan, used to recruit at u of a, but they don’t anymore. it will probably never be like that again, unless the “industry” returns to its mid 2000s heydey
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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you guys really need to quit typing "biglaw jobs" before I get fired for giggling too much.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 1, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Law degree's sure don't seem like they are worth it
Too much risk about not getting a good enough job
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
they aren't anymore
unless you can get a scholarship. things used to be different.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Now, now, pj. Just because Texas State was No. 10
among regional public universities in the West, is no need to rain on fang’s parade. (Truman being No. 1 among regional public universities starting with T in the Midwest)
Then again, perhaps in some AL-to-NL analysis, the West is a better league than the Midwest, so Texas State is on top….tough to say.
/apply shit-tons of sarcasm to this post….
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 1, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
i know.
i was mostly trolling.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
i find this description the most amusing
The University of Notre Dame is a private, independent, Catholic institution in South Bend, Ind. Notre Dame’s athletic teams, known as the Fighting Irish, play in the NCAA Division I and are particularly competitive on the football field.
Winner of the prestigious 2011 MVL as presented by Alxfritz.
"You didn't win LOY, but you did win MVL, which is a prestigious award I just made up. And that’s something RiverRat can never take from you." - Alxfritz
As evidenced last night,
their basketball team is shite.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Mine came in at #23 (nationally)
I was like where the hell is Purdue? Then I noticed that you had to click on the national universities (what the hell is that?). Boiler up!
Where I did most of my studies is #1 college in the west.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
OH YEAH?!
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/page+2
Number 14 university in the country!
/Wash U elitism
/not actually THAT proud of an alum
/Wash U is pretty cool, though
(these last two comments
are trolling lovingly ribbing fang from the other day. I don’t think you were around for the genesis of this stuff)
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
ribbing fang happens?!
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
fang was ribbed for fink's pleasure.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 1, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 23 recs
when you win the internet this thoroughly
you get a several hundred thousand dollar winner’s share. And an Internet Champion ring. And the right to decide if Colby Rasmus gets a similar ring.
well played
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
i definitely went to a top 3 liberal arts college in Maine
i actually can’t name more than 3 in Maine, which helps my security of this statement!
We were 23!
One ahead of UCLA!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
all for only 41K/year!
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Urbana Champaign is apparently not in the midwest
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 1, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Oh ok
I was like we have a Top 5 or so Engineering Program, WTF?
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 1, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
in case you didn't listen to this
you should, because it is really good http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/11/26/2588244/cardinals-2011-musical-free-association-mix-by-dj-cfic
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 1, 2011 1:50 PM EST reply actions
I think I am torn if I would rather sign furcal or rollins
I don’t think we get either if Pujols returns though, which is probably the best scenario. gotta see what Greene can do.
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 1, 2011 1:56 PM EST reply actions
rollins is going to cost more years and money
i don’t like that. if we are trying to get pujols and we already have holliday on a long term deal, we should try to limit the amount of guaranteed ks we have in the future.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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I’m certain Pujols will be addressed before SS. Shortstop will be addressed as a function of $ available (i.e Pujols) as well as years (i.e. the organization’s views on Greene and Jackson)
btw – can tell a lawyer by use of ks as an abbreviation for contracts.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
oh, that's what she meant
I was trying to figure how signing Pujols and Holliday related to our willingess to play guys who strike out frequently.
oops. habitual
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Yes, Stick at SS
He needs a year in Memphis
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Not just stick,
but the reports say he’s pretty salty at SS. Profiles to be an above-average glove with the hope that his bat is less anemic than Adam Everett’s.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Adam Everett is the reason Ben Zobrist is in Tampa.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
SON OF A
remember how i didn’t get an email with a chance to buy WS or NLCS tickets even though i thought i was signed up with cardinals.com? well turns out, the email was sent to my freaking hotmail account that i never use for anything except when stores ask for my email address. i just checked it because i ordered something on amazon, and there it was. damnit.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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lol hotmail
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Dec 1, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
2002 was a great year, you guys.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 1, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i have had this account since at least 2002
i have 13,000 emails in my inbox. but i need somewhere for all my spam to go.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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I've had my g-mail since Febuary of 2005. 33,000+ e-mails.
I’m pissed the service I used from 1999-2004 deleted all of those e-mails and quit.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
i am pissed that i recently had to get a new gmail address because mine got hacked
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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i'd gotten the first one in 05 as well
why does that not seem like that long ago?!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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i guess. i don't know.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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There's a form
you’ll have to attempt to verify a couple of things. Unless you had a backup email address set up, but I don’t think Google has required that for a while.
Think about in future generations
There is going to be like no good user names left
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
yeah that's why i locked up a twitter account with my actual name in case that becomes something i want
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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What is crazy is that someone already did it with my name
And he lives in STL also
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
you probably did it when you were drunk
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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I wish
He has as web page up and everything. If I ever meet him we must fight to death.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
it was sad
Jack Buck, Darryl Kile, the NLCS……….sigh
It used to be all we had...
ICQ>SonicRadio>HotOrNot.com>Hotmail>Myspace
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
the dating website?
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Where does it fall? its for a friend...
EHarmony?—————-Match?——————Zoosk?———————Craigslist?
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
sounds pretty frightening... really...
One time I met a girl that I followed randomly on twitter.. but all we did was high-five.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
The early oughts were a wild, swinging time...
Lets go listen to the Strokes and get an adult handshake from a stranger!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Dec 1, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
myspace sucked.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
ICQ was awesome
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
The good old days
I remember all these people from real life starting to ask me if I had AOL Instant Messenger, or maybe just asking if I “had AOL”. Then after seeing what all the hubbub was about I said to myself “oh, this is just ICQ”.
I used ICQ in the mid 90's had some fun times
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 2, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I eventually switched to Instant Messenger out of necessity
None of my friends were using ICQ anymore.
but you did go to the world series
why are you mad?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
yeah this
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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you still got to go to the world series
I’m having a hard time sympathizing with you. Now me on the other hand, I got screwed out of that 37 Hornsby jersey.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I went to WS games 1 and 6 plus got my Musial jersey
Just saying…
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Dec 2, 2011 8:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can visualize Mo and Dewitt in his office
with Mo staring at himself in a mirror with Dewitt watching.
Mo is practicing “We feel comfortable with Tyler Greene as our short breaks out laughing”
Bill says “You almost had it that time. You have to keep a straight face in front of the agents”
this a good article about the new draft rules
it might not be as bad for small market teams as it initially seemed.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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We are considered a small market team
So would be eligible for the draft lottery
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
yeah right...
could we have done #45 pick and Jess Todd for DeRosa? If so that’s pretty valuable.
Sign Roy O
There has been a lot of stupid "analysis" on the interwebs about the CBA is going to play out. (not saying the linked article is stupid - haven't read it yet)
It would be a good topic for a front page post.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 1, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
i agree with you. this article is pretty good though. it has actual facts to back up the analysis.
and quotes from actual sources. its from an mlb.com writer, so not totally legit, but its nice to see the other side of the story. all i’ve been reading is how awful these new rules are.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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If I'm not mistaken, the CBA itself hasn't been released yet,
so it would seem that an MLB.com writer might provide the most legit information at the current time just because he or she would have greater access to sources with the most knowledge of how it will play out. I could be wrong though and it could simply be an article that was ordered by Selig in an attempt to counter the criticisms that have been leveled at the new CBA.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 1, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
It hasn't been released
I did a bunch of surfing for CBA stuff yesterday
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck yeah VEB
http://www.sbnation.com/2011/12/1/2602750/sports-expertise-sb-nation-matt-ufford
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Grantland and Valentine
I really enjoyed reading this article on Grantland by Jonah Keri. I’m sure someone has already posted but I wanted to link to anyways and highlight my favorite quote from it.
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/11066/much-ado-about-bobby-valentine
Put your best nine on the field, don’t burn out your pitchers, don’t bunt in the first inning, and make sure the players give a crap. That’s what Bobby Valentine’s job should be. The rest is all noise.
Yet, somehow, he will find a way to fuck that up.
All managers do.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
So Jon Bois has pretty much the best job ever, right?
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I can think of, um, a lot of jobs better than associate editor of a website.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Yeah but he pretty much just sits there and makes funny sports gifs
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maybe vep needs this kind of job
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No he'd probably hate it
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he hates everything anyway
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that sounds very boring
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
looks like a cartoon in slow mo
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Middle infielder subthread
Two more were signed recently. Santiago went back to the Tigers at 2/4.2M. Adam Kennedy went to Dodgers at .8M. I think the Cards still are looking for two more whether Greene/Descalso start or backup. I consider neither Kozma, Theriot, nor Skip as viable options. If AP leaves, we may look at one or both from the upper tier (Reyes, Rollins, Furcal) or middle tier (Kelly Johnson, Alex Gonzalez) If AP returns, we’ll likely go bargain basement for both. Choose two from Punto, Jack Wilson, Hairston, Ronny Cedeno, Carlos Guillen, Renteria, DeRosa, Miles, O Cabrera, Betancourt, Counsell, Vizquel, Izturis … I think resigning Punto would be a great move.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 4:00 PM EST reply actions
Johnson plz
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(Sidney Rice is on IR! Get someone in there! You gotta beat fang, man. The sanctity of the universe depends on it)
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Dec 1, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In retrospect I probably should have traded Tony Gonzalez like 10 weeks ago for a decent #3 RB
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Yeah, I'd re-sign Punto. Kelly Johnson would be lovely, but I think he'll get paid plenty.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
We should not re-sign Punto
He has a 31% line drive percentage last year vs 15% in 2010. He led the majors in it.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Solid walk-rate though
To both our points though, we’re only talking about 166 PAs though. We know the glove plays, and if he can OBP at .330, I think he’s worth re-signing.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Also - though though, though-though-though
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
i feel like we should be able to get furcal or johnson AND pujols.
johnson is coming off a mediocre season, as is furcal. neither should be prohibitively expensive.
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Per Cot's, payroll for 2011 season was 109M as the season started.
It may have changed somewhat over the year due to trades (Cards paid 1.4M of Furcal’s salary). For 2012, I see payroll at 87M with 4 roster spots open; Pujols, 2 MIF, 12th pitcher. Pujols at 25M puts the total at 112M. Whether or not a Furcal or Johnson would fit in addition to Pujols is a function of the 2012 budget. I sure wish Mo/DeWitt would tell us how much we have to work with.
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
who did you remove from last year's payroll?
you have to remove theriot, punto, skip, kmac, and laird, at least.
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Who I have on is
Carp,Wain.Jaime,Lohse,Westb
Motte,Boggs,Salas,Sanchez, Lynn, Rzep
Molina,Cruz or Anderson
Freese,Descalso,Greene
Berk,Holliday,Jay,Craig,Chambers or Robinson
I did remove the 5 you listed.
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I believe those guys are already removed
The $87 million roster number came out after free agency started.
news flash: joe strauss gets to vote on a hall of fame ballot; derrick goold does not.
#nojusticenopeace
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
also, murray chass is a member, but is prohibited from voting.
they say it is because he’s affiliated with the NY Times, which prohibits its writers from voting, and not because he’s a world-class asshole.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
chasshole?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 1, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully nobody tells them he left the Times in 2008.
He’s just a blogger now.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
yeah, i'm not sure if wikipedia is right on this point, or if he is no longer a member.
also, joe strauss’s vote is worth just as much as posnanski’s.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
it's ok, though
because strauss’s ballot gets thrown out every year for consisting of nothing but snide remarks about sabermetrics and snarky twitter-tag insults, with no actual attempt at voting.
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The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
you know what i'm going to do the rest of the day?
fuck all
maybe i’ll go play some oblivion in a little bit. i might make some tea. feel grateful i even have pants on
basically, this semester is over except for a half-assed monday, where half my classes are optional
I loved those days
I also loved the classes where you had 4 tests and the teacher took the best 3 for your final grade. I made sure to ace the first 3 so I didn’t have to come to school the final day.
Plus, because I was an English major, I never really had exam days, it was always “turn in a 7-10 page paper by 5:00 on the date the exam would have been.”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Dec 1, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
It depends on the paper for me
I’ve always done better on papers (say, the A I just got on my 10 page research paper on Radical Right parties in Europe) than I do on exams.
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 1, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
the only reason i like my require writing classes.
no final.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
*chortle* Silly f'in Brit *chortle*
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
How can that be racialist?
I didn’t call you a “pale silly f’in Brit”.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
toothless.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
hairy-backed?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
you're right.
that says it so much better
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
that's actually not it
i bought oblivion a long time ago and never go around to it because i was busy having a life, loser
It was a dark and stormy night
when I suddenly remembered my step-father telling about some weird weblog that catered to fans of the St. Louis Cardinals. I was jonesing to talk about baseball, specifically Cardinals baseball, but my wife was having none of it, and my best friend, a die-hard Tigers fan, not only didn’t live in the same town as me, but only knew of Albert Pujols on the Cardinals’ roster. So, I fired up my old Toshiba laptop, turned on Internet Explorer, and went looking for links to Cardinal weblogs….and thereby discovered Viva El Birdos. Three years down the road, and I’m stunned at the number of hours I have wasted, WASTED, I say, reading and posting on this stupid, stupid, wonderfully shameless site. F* you, VEB. I can’t quit you.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 1, 2011 5:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It is either ironic or fitting (or both? is that possible?)
that you make this comment on the most OT non-late night VEB comments section in recent memory.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Dec 1, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I posted it before I started reading the comments. Just got out of my car after listening to John Feinstein
on Fresh Air, and had the urge to write something. So, I read DanUp’s post, and then skipped down to write that. I’m going through the threads now, and yeah, basically there’s some weirdness here today.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 1, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
We're usually at our best when we're at our weirdest.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Per Heyman..
Cards are in on Alex Gonzalez.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 6:22 PM EST reply actions
I'm always a little sad when I remember he's still in the league
it seems like both of them should have retired at once
Alex Gonzalez?
I counter with Donovan Solano, Top Prospect.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Dec 1, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
amusing pluralization for danup's benefit.
18) Adeiny Hechavarria, SS, Grade C+: Borderline B-. I like the glove, but I think the Vegas numbers were a fluke. Could turn out similar to the Alex Gonzalezi. I might be underrating him a bit but he’s never looked good with the bat when I’ve seen him.
also, further up that page, it appears that there is yet another molina. no word on when he converts to catcher yet.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
There are more Molinas out there ?
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
as long as he's not starting and making less than $2 million.
I’d be okay with it. Gonzalez, Punto, Greene, and Descalso is a less than steller, but adequate MIF group.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
also...
Re-sign Punto!
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
"not starting and making less than $2m" is sort of what i think about for a plan C.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
I would guess that a Gonzalez signing would
be the end of the short-but-sweet Shredder era in St. Louis.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
better options than alex gonzalez
furcal
rollins
descalso
greene
punto
me
gabe
fritz
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Best free agent option for 1 of 2 MIF spots
outside the big three of Rollins, Reyes, Furcal
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
furcal is in the big 3?
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
there are only 3
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we hid the 3 from him and he has never touched them
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Reminds me when
My buddy told me he won 3rd place in a wake boarding competition. I asked him how many competed and he told me 3.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Furcal is one year removed from back to back fWAR seasons of 3.7 and 2.8
He is one year older than Rollins.
Furcal fWAR over last 3 seasons: 2.8 3.7 0.9 Total of 7.4
Rollins fWAR over last three seasons: 1.0 2.0 3.7 Total of 6.7
Yeah, Furcal is in the big three.
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
I'd go with you or gabe. I'm passed my peak and have Belliard-esque range.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
I disagree with nearly everyone on that list, strike Greene...
…and Tyler Greene only makes the cut due to the fact that he makes league minimum and might not be terrible.
- Furcal apparently will require a two year commitment and make about three to four times what Gonzalez would probably cost. Also, he’s 34, has a lot of injuries the last couple of years and may not be an elite defender any longer at SS.
- Rollins is also past his prime and will cost about twice what Furcal will cost, coupled with the fact that Philly will drive up his price. I mean, do we really want to get in a bidding war for a mid-30’s SS with a team that signed Ryan Howard to a 5Y$125M extension? I think not.
- Daniel Descalso is not a SS. Pray that he never gets enough innings at SS to qualify for a decent sample in UZR.
- Punto might not be able to play the position with his arm troubles. That, and he might not cost much less than Gonzalez, who would also be above average at the same positions defensively, as well as bringing some pop at the plate. At least AG’s bat has some upside — we saw Punto’s upside in limited PA’s in 2011.
- You, Gabe, and Fritz: Well, you would work for free Budweiser and autographs, so we can’t completely rule this out until we know what Albert Pujols will be making next year.
Remember, none of these guys is really a long term solution at SS, unless Greene’s contact rate suddenly turns him into pre-headcase Kahlil Greene for a few pre-arb seasons. Other than that, we’d be better off throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks at the lowest possible price. I’d rather do that for one season with a decent glove than pay Rollins or Furcal for multiple years of sunk cost at the age that they currently are.
FWIW — this is NOT in any way an endorsement of an Alex Gonzalez signing. I’d rather go with Greene and see what he can do. But it would be far better than some of the other options on the table, that’s for sure.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I wonder how much
Japanese shortstop Hiroyuki Nakajima would cost. I’d rather we get him and put Greene at 2B, with Descalso gettting time there against RHP.
We need another Nipponese dude on the team.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 1, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
In salary? Or with posting fee?
Seems like he wouldn’t get a whole lot less than what Fukudome got from the Cubs, and that’s far more than I’m willing to pony up for a guy who was never as good as Kaz Matsui in Japan.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
you ever have one of those accident-prone nights
well… at least all phalanges are accounted for
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I have yet to cook tonight!
I am a bit leery. there will be knifework involved.
actually more than half my kitchen injuries involve the microwave
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
helpful hint: stop putting parts of your body inside a running microwave.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
or your genitals in a toaster.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
I nearly hacked off a finger yesterday fixing lunch.
It was a wobbly day all around. Sounds like what you’re up against.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, pretty much
I nixed most of the to-do list. i hope this heals up, ‘cause tomorrow’s now gonna be packed. even outside of the basement.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Free Agent SS - sorted by 2011 OBP...
1.Nick Punto – .388, career .325
2.Jose Reyes – . 384, career .341
3. Jerry Hairston, Jr – .344, career .326
4. Jimmy Rollins – .338, career .329
5. Edgar Renteria – .306, career .343
6. Luis Rodriguez – .299, career .314
7. Rafael Furcal – .298, career .348
8. Ronny Cedeno – .297, career .286
9. Craig Counsell – .280, career .342
10. Jack Wilson – .274, career .307
11. Yuni Betancourt – .271, career .292
12. Alex Gonzalez – .270, career .291
13. Orlando Cabrera – .267, career .317
14. Andres Blanco – .263, career .301
15. Cesar Izturis – .250, career .295
Reyes, Rollins, and Furcal are certainly the only ones worthy of starting.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 7:30 PM EST reply actions
hairston is okay.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
He turns 36 early next season and he's never been a full-time SS, though
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Right
They would be looking at Gonzalez if they were looking for a cost-effective starter. Hairston is definitely a reserve.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
5. Tyler Greene - .322, career .307
Looking better all the time!
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 1, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
6. Ryan Theriot - .321, career ..344
I guess anyone who has seen d-dee’s Theriot video wouldn’t count him as a SS, though
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
I vote we trade for Martin prado
M-carp and cleto?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 1, 2011 7:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
what if we really did get to run the team by democracy?
would we be awesome collective GMs or would we run this ship into the ground?
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Cody and I would be yelling at each other from opposite sides of the room,
nothing would ever get accomplished, and lots of alcohol would be consumed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It would be great entertainment for most of us
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Ship, meet ground.
Repeat.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Dec 1, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good call
Until you realize that it would probably take Shelby Miller to pry him away from the Braves.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I don't get the love of Prado.
as a FA pick up that would be one thing, but no way in hell am I going to trade a very valuable piece for him that could be traded for something a little less fungible.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
I realize that you are saying that he's not worth Miller.
I just think we have options already here that are as Prado.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Remember when the rangers were te envy of MLB due to their catching depth?
Salty, Ramirez, and Teagarden?
Yea, none o them are still in the org, and all have sucked on the ML level. Prospects are harsh mistresses
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 1, 2011 7:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yes, and i am crying for them what with their nelson cruz acquisition.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
Oh I don't feel bad for them
But going 0-3 is crazy
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 1, 2011 7:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
not that crazy. remember when we had "crazy" third base depth with wallace, freese, and craig?
i mean, freese ended up being a good third baseman when healthy, and craig panned out elsewhere, but i suspect that kind of depth evaporates with some regularity.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
But, like you said,
We went 1.5/3
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 1, 2011 7:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well, sorta. there are asterisks on both - freese for missing a lot of time, craig for having success in the OF, not 3B.
saltalamacchia has been worth 3 wins over basically 2 seasons of PAs. he’s not useless, even if he’s out of the org.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
Yes
And isn’t it funny: They decided to say fuck all to those prospects and then went out and got Mike Napoli for basically nothing and Yorvit Torrealba in case Napoli couldn’t catch full time.
Lesson: Best not to put all your money in with just developing prospects — sometimes you need to make a trade that seems nonsensical from an organizational standpoint just because of the players involved.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
No matter who the double play combo is next season...
They’ll pretty much automatically be an upgrade over Theriot and Skip, right?
Unless of course…its Theriot and Skip.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 7:39 PM EST reply actions
you just had to go there
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
What is a good download speed for a cell phone?
My phone downloaded 786kpbs off the network and over 8000 on the wifi
it depends on the network I think
I get about 2 mbps on at&t’s fake-4G hspa+ network, though since I’m on a webos phone the only options for measuring speed are based on its really buggy implementation of flash.
is it too early for cats? i have a great one
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
fine, i don't care if its too early or not!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
by IHeartBoog on Dec 1, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
this one will always be my favorite
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Dec 1, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
my high school physics teacher was a fan of the "guy running away with your precious metals" puns
“Ah Gee, someone stole my silver” vs. “Ay You! come back here with my gold!”
to his credit, I remember them.
ironically, that same cat choked to death after trying to swallow chunk of copper during a photo shoot.
apparently, cuprousity killed the cat.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 1, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Ahh yes Irony, I haven't practiced it for years. People just looked at me like I was an idiot so I gave it up.
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i FEel you.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 1, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like dropping a hydrogen bomb on this subthread
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
do whatever you wisH-2
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 1, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Boom
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
he should Ra-ise his hyperbole to a new level
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
U don't seem very stable.
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by a fink on Dec 1, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just facepalmed the shit out of myself because of this whole thread.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
O
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Dec 1, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yes
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
BeCs I Cn
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I lurnt 2 spel fonetikuly
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
YES
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
TLR interview with ESPN magazine
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 8:04 PM EST reply actions
only four? rolen, kennedy, ryan, rasmus, right off the top of my head.
I can only think of about four players who I do not have anywhere from a good to a great relationship with. And I think that’s a surprise.
Who are those four exceptions?
You can ask all you want. You got no chance.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
can you blame him for kennedy? lol
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
yes. the kennedy fiasco led to our eating a bunch of salary to have skip schumaker, wonder second baseman.
kennedy was no great shakes, but la russa needlessly antagonized him.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
i guess it depends on his definition of what a good relationship is
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
i'm assuming that he's counting edmonds as having fixed that relationship. they definitely were on the outs for a while.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
i would guess so, since he came to spring training this year
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Memory sometimes fades with age.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
this is some pretty shitty reading comprehension
where did i state that his players didn’t like him? or maybe you’re just trolling as usual
I was replying to cardsfan...
Sign Roy O
by guayzimi on Dec 1, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i understand the context of the comment...
cardsfan’s comment references cardsfan’s belief that more than 4 players in the history of tony’s managing career dislike him…
i also like ellipses at the end of all my sentences because i’m condescending…
You are correct in your understanding.
I do not believe that only 4 players who have played for LaRussa in his 33 years of managing dislike him,
Who cares or doesn’t care about my belief is irrelevant to me because I do not seek believers.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
Endless wealth, world peace, and an end to the designated hitter.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
3 things that are unattainable
good luck with that
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Fatalities from war as a percentage of global population are in major decline.
There’s hope! Though, wealth is relative. I’m just now realizing the DH-joke part.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be willing to keep the DH,
in exchange for contracting 2-4 teams.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
12 per league, 6 per division
each division champ goes to the league championship, league champions play for the WS. 7 game series, no interleague during the regular season.
ahh, if only.
I don't get the pining for contraction.
What’s the benefit of this?
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
less shitty middle infielders.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, but expansion makes baseball more popular and generates more revenue
boosting player salaries and drawing better athletes from around the world.
Contraction would do the opposite, I’m sure. How pissed would you be if your team was contracted?
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'm only advocating it for the betterment of my team.
I don’t care how much the players and owners make.
Its a moot point as it will never happen.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
True
But it seems like quite a few VEBers have expressed this sentiment, so I’m curious.
But my point is that long-run this could lead to lower quality players. Plus, other teams would benefit just as much from the contraction, so the Cards wouldn’t win more games on average.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Gene Stechschulte
Then again it’s to La Russa’s credit he didn’t strangle him on the mound.
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Maybe I don't know the obvious
But what happened there?
by Merry CRasmus on Dec 1, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
many pitches left over the plate leading to some absolutely irate reactions from La Russa...
this was before mlb.com video clips, one time I remember him turning beet red and just walking back into the tunnel for a minute… then he went to the mound with the death stare.
Sign Roy O
Anthony Reyes
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
on a personal level
I don’t think him and Ryan didn’t had a bad relationship. They went to dinner after Ryan was traded.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Rolen might also not count
They liked each other enough for several years. It’s true that from 06 to the trade there was a lot of friction. But they have apparently kissed and made up since then.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I think really that's the thing...
Personal relationship is a bit different from professional one, even with LaRussa. I think fans have a tendency to buy into the idea that every player who didn’t work out under LaRussa had a bad personal relationship with the guy, or that friction in the locker room that led to trades also led to a lasting personal grudge that exists today. Ozzie is obviously one, and mostly like Rasmus is another.
Ozzie, Rasmus, and Rolen come to mind
But after thinking more about Rolen, they may have made up.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Eh, that sounds like more of a "Sorry I ran you out of town; let me buy you dinner and I'll explain how it's strictly business."
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 2, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Did they get one, or is this sarcasm? (I assume the latter.)
I’m not saying Tony always did that, but it’s not like they just happened to have dinner plans already set for that evening. Tony clearly bought him dinner to talk to him about his profession and why he was traded. I don’t think Tony hated the guy, but I bet it was an uncomfortable work environment.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 2, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
it's the latter.
Scotty did not so much as make up as said hi after the first time he was in town Tony didn’t speak with him. JEd made up, and Eck made up with Mo.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
if you want clothes...
just say, “anything but clothes”.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
ipad2
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
What is in the trunk of my car?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
i must confess the nature of my comment was sarcastic
Whilst I recognize yours was as well
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
snuggies?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Make Amazon wishlist,
e-mail link to parents.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I did this last year for the first time
I was kind of sad about not having the surprise factor, but at the same time it was better than telling my mom I wanted season 2 of the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya over the phone.
Exactly.
I’m impossible to buy for. I do this for my wife, otherwise she’d get me something wonderfully heartfelt but completely wrong.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm easy.
She just get’s me beer, and other drinking accoutrements.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Does M&N have wish lists?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
They wish people would stop calling them.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
ha ha ha
That’s what I got, they had apparently called in some friend of the family or young girl they knew .. she was just like … I don’t normally work here, but they’re having trouble keeping up … yes your order shipped! So I asked for the tracking number, she said it’s saying shipped but will actually ship tomorrow, virtually gave me a promise.
I basically kept asking questions until I think she ensured my order got out. I did it in a very nice way.
I’m in logistics mind you
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
I'm still stuck in limbo.
Got the original email, and nothing since.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
did you cal them?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 2, 2011 6:05 AM EST up reply actions
or you could start a thread on VEB and be coy.
at least you’ll know she’ll get all her comments green.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This has been my standard reply for about 5 years now
It works great.
Even better? I usually end up with a ton of Amazon GC $$$, which go a long way towards buying $5 Kindle books throughout the year.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
ATTN: To the Powers that be @ VEB
d-dee’s amazing fanpost is now 15 days old and has dropped out of the “recommended” section. Someone needs to make that stay at least through spring training.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 9:03 PM EST reply actions
you can put it on the left where the glossary is
Balls
by gdm426 on Dec 2, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It ought to be required of all newbies to peruse it when joining.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
how do you verify they've read it? with a check box?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 2, 2011 6:06 AM EST up reply actions
To many potentially good folks would say "F'it...F'in VEB Asshats!"
I say 10~15 good questions to weed out the trolls, don’t make it a freakin weekend term paper type cram fest.
P.S. they have to get at least 9 correct … so a little knowledge please with a time limit, but no obscure crap.
Or something like that
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 2, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
More dramatic/amazing...
Marshawn Lynch beast mode vs the Saints or Freese 9th inning game 6?
Sign Roy O
Anyone else just have a delicious holiday feast?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I'm drinking a beer and sipping Jamesons whilst still at work,
so, maybe?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
was it alchohol?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Well, afterward.
I made some fancy mac and cheese with walnuts and other delicious things, served with charred raddichio and bok choy with a balsamic dressing. I had some coconut milk-based egg nog with cognac after.
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That eggnog sounds amazing
My dorm had a feast tonight – mashed potatoes, stuffed chicken, tritip, salmon, cranberry rice, salad with grapefruit and pomegranate, bruchetta, string beans. and then cheesecake and gingerbread cookies and eggnog (sans liquor). Can’t eat anymore.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Nice. The salad sounds intriguing.
I’ve never had that combination before, but I’ll try it soon.
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My godmother makes these things
With lettuce leaves of some sort (I’m not sure what kind) with goat cheese, pomegranates, candied walnuts, and balsamic vinegar. It’s not a salad, they are more like wraps.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
That sounds even more intriguing. I'm going to make those this weekend.
I’ll probably try with bibb lettuce.
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Balsamic vinegar is the nectar of the gods
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
agreed, all dressings pale in comparison
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
I picked up a fig balsamic a while ago,
and it is awesome. I’m a sucker for the oil & vinegar store.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i will disagree with this statement
i do like real balsamic, but it’s so expensive and hard to find, and most “balsamic” vinegar in the US sucks. i love sherry vinegar though, and it’s pretty easy to find decent kinds here.
I think the cheap ones have their place, and considering how little of it is needed in most preparations,
the good ones that aren’t super old aren’t terribly expensive.
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i dunno
maybe i just burnt out on the cheap ones. i used them for a while and then realized just making something with a good vinegar and adding sweetening is exponentially better.
and i didn’t mean to be so critical of real ones, i do have a couple and i use them, but i am just not into the balsamic vinaigrette thing anymore, so the uses decrease a lot. salad doesn’t show it off well enough. good strawberries and balsamic, or chunks of parmigiano though…
I never use it on plain salads. I love it on grilled or charred salads, though.
M wife makes a good gluten-free french-style crusty bread I dip in evoo and balsamic, and the good stuff goes on ice cream sometimes.
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ice cream!
interesting. what flavors? i can’t imagine that works well with everything, but that sounds friggin delicious on the right stuff.
balsamic vinegar on icecream?
I can buy that. Pepper tastes really good on icecream.
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
ever had black pepper ice cream?
fucking awesome. i don’t think i’ve ever put pepper on ice cream though, i should try that
the fig stuff I have is awesome on icecream.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Mario Batali says that you can make "balsamic"
vinegar more like the good stuff by reducing it by about half over high heat
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
That's what my dad does
It’s awesome. Sometimes he adds a little bit of this or that (honey for example) to change up the flavor a bit.
One of the coolest things I saw on a Mario Batali show was a making a toast (as in, a drink before a meal) with really good balsamic vinegar. I thought, “that’s brilliant! And all this time I thought I was just crazy for wanting to drink this stuff!”
If you like it that much(and you should)
Try this as it is pretty close to a recipe in his Po cookbook
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
haha
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 2, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
damnit this was supposed to be a reply to gdm
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 2, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Curiousity
For the men: Is it important to you that your wife (real or future hypothetical) takes your last name?
For the ladies: Is it a big deal to you to take your husband’s (real or future hypothetical) last name?
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Kinda important
I would never do hyphenated though.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I would take her last name if it was cool
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
meant to reply to azru
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if I'd ever do that
but I realized tonight that I would have no issue if someone I was getting married to wanted to keep their last name.
Me not wanting kids simplifies that equation in some ways though.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Yep, kids not having the same last name as one of the parents always seemed like a pretty big issue to me.
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yeah, those no way it actually makes any kind of a difference
It’s just whatever sentiment you attach to your name.
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think I'd like my kid to not have my last name, and I know my wife feels the same way.
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i suppose parentally, that sort of makes sense.
i’ve always approached this from the point of view that i don’t care if my wife changes her name- but i’ve just assumed that my children would have my last name, because that’s what my family did. if she wanted them to have her last name… i guess i would need to think about that a little. i don’t think it would bother me, though.
In Spain or specifically Galicia kids take their mom and maternal grandmother's last names
so they are all hyphenated
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Yeah, I know
I just don’t think it has any makes any tangible difference. You’re not going to love your kind less, and he’s not gonna grow up confused about who his parents are.
It’s a sentimental, which of course is important to the individual, but it would be easy to shake if you needed to.
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
It also just doesn't matter at all
Unless your name is attached to something where changing would harm you (if you were an author or something like that).
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
A friend of mine took her name.
But he really wanted to put distance between himself and his family.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I told her that if she wanted to that would be great
but if she wanted to do something different that was fine, too. But I’m notoriously easy to get along with.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
i would not have cared either way.
i think some of it depends on your career and how old you are when you get married. someone who’s made a name for herself in her field would have obvious disincentive to change her name.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
I preferred that she did, but if she didn't want to, I would be totally fine with it.
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I was about to write almost exactly this
so instead I’ll just write this longer explanatory note in agreement with it.
Can I ask why?
Or is it a disallowed topic on VEB — in which case, I understand already.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
no problem
it’s just the way I was brought up, I guess. More traditional? I mean, if my wife hadn’t wanted to take my last name it wouldn’t have been a deal breaker. But she was honored and wanted to take it.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Also, Aranathor
I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on this if you stop by.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
My wife considered the hyphen thing for a bit
For some reason, it bothered me slightly, and I told her that. I also told her that if that was the only way she would marry me, then I would deal with it. I did tell her i wanted our kids to have my last name
She ended up just taking mine
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 1, 2011 10:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In her case, it was more of an "I want to honor my father" thing
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 1, 2011 10:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think I would feel so weak
If I had a hyphenated last name.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 1, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
a little important
i’d be open to discussing it, but i think i’d feel uncomfortable with a woman refusing to do so
my attitude on this is kind of funny considering that i think marriage is kind of arbitrary and i could pretty much take it or leave it when you exclude the tax benefits
I didn't care
(She did.)
My mom seemed to care more about it than we did.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
She did take my name, to be clear.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Seeing as my wife was still using her exes last name,
yes, I wanted her to take mine.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Haha
Yea, that shit would stop with a quickness
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 1, 2011 10:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
addendum to my previous comment
mine was the same way, so she did need to change it from that ballknocker’s last name, I didn’t really care to what though.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
No.
Kids aren’t hyphening though; I forbid it on grounds of exponential impracticality. They can take her name or mine, but no hyphens. I probably wouldn’t want to change my name either, not that you asked.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
We gave one of our names as their middle name and the other as a last name...
now they complain about all having the same uncool middle name.
Sign Roy O
heh.
that’s how my sister and i am. the difference is, i have two middle names- my first being for my grandfather, and my second being my mother’s last name. my sister only has one (my mother’s last name). while i have not legally changed my name, i use only my first middle name in almost every allowable situation (although my college diploma has my full name). my sister doesn’t really have that option.
not in the slightest bit
i think i would prefer my wife did not take my last name, although i wouldn’t be upset either way. i would probably think quite strongly about taking her last name, and then pass on it because i like mine and my family too much.
ah, but i would positively refuse to hyphenate my name
and i would be against my children having hyphenated names if at all possible.
It's not a big deal either way
I don’t really care.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Dec 1, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
would you tell your wife and children your first name?
or are they just going to address you as Tank Clank
no one will ever, ever know.
and the only reason I’d ever have kids is if I turned into a Manananggal. And then I would eat them.
Still not a werewolf.
Would it be a deal-breaker if you met your dream girl and she really wanted kids?
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
(i think this is more interesting subthread than the name one so i'm going to reply unsolicited)
i am fairly certain i want kids- but i am pretty neutral about bringing kids into the current world, and i believe very strongly that there are way too many people on this planet, and i don’t really want to contribute to that. i am certainly going to adopt (from birth, if i can), but i think i would be willing to have a child or two if my SO really wanted it (i’ve had major relationship changes in the past based on these feelings, and i have mellowed a bit from my stance a few years ago)
but then you can't pass on your genes
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
but how else will i shape my child to take revenge on the world for all of my failings?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, and don't think that doesn't make me unhappy-
but i think the reasons i have for not wanting to create more lives are worth it.
no i agree
I made the same argument with technology the other day. then again, i’m gonna die when all the ramifications happen, so who gives a crap?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
one of my exes really wanted kids, and that was a contention point.
but I don’t know. It’d be difficult, certainly.
Besides, what kid would feel great knowing that one of his parents didn’t want him?
Still not a werewolf.
One of my close friends is really ambivalent about having kids.
His wife really wants them, and he just figures “it’s the thing to do” at his age. I’m a bit concerned about it!
Of course, I think a lot of people are not terribly enthused about being a father, do it anyway, and really love it. Having a kid (intentionally) without actively wanting one seems crazy to me, though.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
I run into this with some degree of frequency.
I simply have no filial feelings nor do I want to particularly develop any. If people want (and can support) children, great. Good for them. I’d be happy to just find a SO and die childless together while doting on relatives & friends kids at my whim.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Dec 1, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes.
I constantly debate whether I’m ready for a dog or not again.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
not ein enough
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 1, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
corgis rock
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
do you have a decent sized fenced backyard?
if not, you may want to hold off. Walking a dog in the hot, cold, snow, wind, rain, etc. can be a real pain in the ass
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
i generally strongly dislike both
but there are approximately 2 kids that i like and 0 dogs that i like, so i’ve disproven your inequality
as someone who likes kids and dogs
I prefer kids because eventually they are able to communicate with you in english, which I’m fond of.
by DanUpBaby on Dec 1, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, kids are eventually able to take care of themselves, and let you play with their kids without expecting you to take care of them.
AND you don’t have to watch them die, for the most part.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
As a caretaker of a 12 year old, sometimes I wonder.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They have the ability to communicate with you in English.
Whether or not they do is another matter.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Only people without kids think that these are two things that can be compared.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
I always get the same things
1. Wait until you’ve been with someone you love long enough
Nope. Have had multiple long-term relationships, and that feeling never surfaced
2. Wait until you’re older
I’m nearly 26. I assume it should’ve at least started by now, looking at how many people I know my age with kids.
3. Wait until you have nieces and nephews. There’s something about blood kin.
I have 4. I’m pleased to see 2 of them for 3 hours once a week, and then send them to their parents when they’re misbehaving, crying, or pooping.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Dec 1, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It seems like none of those address your concern re:overpopulation.
BTW, what is your concern about overpopulation, exactly?
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Shit, good point.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Sure explains why nobody addressed that concern, huh?
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
they probably already know that I don’t worry about it because I expect the alternate life form invasion to decimate most of the population. Robots, aliens, otters, whatever.
Still not a werewolf.
I also fear the upcoming otter invasion.
I plan to have children so I can train them to be the best otter fighters in the world and singlehandedly save mankind from being entirely wiped out.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
be careful and train them
otters aren’t like a man- just because you pin one down on its back does not mean you’ve won. they’re pretty slippery!
I don't think her children will be otters
but if they are, well then she’s just 2 steps ahead of the rest of us
Still not a werewolf.
oh wait I thought your subject line was directing connected to the next phrase
I wish it were. Heh! ClemsonGirl’s otter children!
Still not a werewolf.
an otter-human hybrid would be a wily opponent, that's for sure
by tehzachatak on Dec 1, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the more I think about this
the more I suspect truer words haven’t been spoken on VEB tonight.
Amen, tehzachatak, amen.
Still not a werewolf.
No worries.
I have done extensive study on how to defeat otters. It has a lot to do with giving them clams that never open. No matter how long you float on your back and hit them against rocks.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
by ClemsonGirl on Dec 1, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is my main goal.
I want to see Steve Spurrier in an orange and purple sweater vest and matching visor. The moment he recognizes that no, South Carolina will never be Clemson because they never produced a graduate who saved the world from the Otter Domination will be a truly great moment.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
careful or they will crack your
skull on their tummies
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
by TomCat009 on Dec 2, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i told you people! i told you.
(i am pro-CG, by the way. just so it is known. in writing.)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that was me, i think.
and as Dan alluded to- i’m not sure i should get into it.
i’m just going to point out that the planet is beginning to run out of resources, and that this is what the population graph looks like.
anyone who understands basic population dynamics can extrapolate here.
Yea, I almost didn't ask because of the politics thing.
Though I’m not sure either of the main two sides has a position.
At any rate, have you ever read anything by Julian Simon? Perhaps I’ll just link you to his wikipedia page and leave it at that.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
yup
i’ve read a lot of his stuff, and he has some really good points. i find the Erhlich-Simon wager fascinating- and i’m not sure what side i would have taken on that. i think the economics are really cool, and often valid- i’m not debating anything about prices of things, or stuff like that.
on the other hand, i think his views on the effect of humans on the biosphere are pretty ill-informed, and i take issue with how he views the planet. in AGGREGATE, i think what he’s saying is pretty true- but i don’t like viewing humanity in aggregate.
Simon is one of my favorite economists. The Simon-Erhlich wage is awesome simply as a case of two intellectuals putting their money where their mouth is.
I brought him up because if the only thing stopping you from having kids is an overpopulation concern, then you almost owe it to yourself to examine the other arguments. But since you have, I won’t try to convince you further.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
don't fool yourself
i’m already there
but you sir! …….. granted this is mostly to maintain solidarity. more Molinas didn’t get out there with magic. well. not literally.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
26 is still really young to think you should want kids
i’m 29 and i still don’t have those feelings. but i expect that i will some day
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Just asked her if she regretted taking my name
she said no, wanted the same name as the kids. I pointed out we could have hyphenated, and she said “You didn’t want to do that when we got married.” Her memory is better than mine. I recall asking her about this before tying the knot, and indicated it wasn’t vastly important to me, only somewhat important. She said, Ms. Sparta!cular is a mouthful.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 1, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
it is not important
i’d probably be happier if she didn’t (even if my last name happens to be AWESOME)
For me it's just kind of a given.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
by ClemsonGirl on Dec 1, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would, uh, discuss it.
also, I knew a husband and wife who both hyphenated their names. which was funny because she had a very typically Asian name and he…. very much did not.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
my wife went back and forth on it
then eventually changed her middle name to her maiden name I don’t know if it upset me, but I definitely had some conflicting emotions about it.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
My wife did the same
But for nursing reasons
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
a friend of mine retained her maiden name professionally
but outside of work, everyone knows her with her much cooler Japanese last name.
Still not a werewolf.
Beware the Otters!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
No it's not important.
I don’t get it at all and, at the risk of making some people mad, it’s just an archaic, meaningless tradition.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Given what my last name is....
…I would personally understand if she wanted to keep her own.
you just need to explain that it is pronounced 'Throat-Warbler Mangrove'
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
by TomCat009 on Dec 2, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hahahahaha
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
This made me laugh out loud, I'm still laughing on the inside and it's difficult to type because my huge beer belly is convulsing as the laughter rolls through me
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 2, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
my wife took my last name
I didn’t really care all that much. I don’t think my family would have been too happy with it.. which is weird, because I have aunts on both sides of my family that kept their maiden names. They had a hard enough time with the fact that she didn’t convert to Catholicism… which is weird, because I have other family members who didn’t and they don’t seem to have a problem with that.
> tebow
What did she do with it?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 2, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
tl;dr
what happened?
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 1, 2011 10:31 PM EST reply actions
I could have missed a few things
but: matt adams in the outfield, bobby valentine to the red sox, sony xperia arcs on sb nation st. louis, the marlins in the hot stove league, d-dee’s new pre-owned crossover, truman state in the regional college rankings (it’s pretty good! hi haters I guess), furcal or rollins, IHB’s hotmail account, the new CBA, space baseball is pretty great, fungible middle infielders, strauss’s hall of fame ballot, oblivion is for old men named “stanley” or “wilfred,” maybe, sea bass gonzalez is the one who’s still playing, science cats, tlr: “because me!”, marshawn lynch, christmas presents, holiday feasts, and marriage-name-dynamics.
by DanUpBaby on Dec 1, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 13 recs
Caught some of that last one.
What’s a marshawn lynch? Is this a new way to hang miscreants? Thanks for the rundown.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 1, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Is this anything like
Royal Crown Cola?
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 1, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Asshat is back
Pujols pulling a LeBron would be good for MLB
No, but it would be good for asshat writers who like to put up asshat crap like this.
He’s doing what he must to extract the value he deserves, lest he roll over and accept a lowball from the Cardinals or Florida Marlins, the only other team known to have offered him a contract.
Yes, that would be the lowball offer that has stopped most teams from even bidding on his services.
"There are three things the average man thinks he can do better than anybody else: build a fire, run a hotel and manage a baseball team."- Rocky Bridges
by That's a Winner on Dec 1, 2011 10:40 PM EST reply actions
Jeff Passan’s column this week is endorsed by Dan Lozano
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Dec 1, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I didn't even bother reading it.
He’s kinda like Jeff Gordon or Bryan Burwell. In fact, I think I’m done with Yahoo Sports altogether. I’ve been duped into far to many bleacherreport.com links
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
normally he gets more hate here than is deserved
but the “lebron corollary” thing at the center of this is an enormous reach. the lebron thing was interesting only because, thanks to the NBA’s cap-distorted economics, you could sign a guy who was clearly the best player in basketball and two other outstanding players and create an easily marketable super-team in a sport that’s more dominated by good players (and their personalities) than any other. in the meantime it cratered interest in cleveland.
more obviously, lebron+any team makes the playoffs
the cubs will not make the postseason in 2012 with or without albert pujols.
So you're saying we need more wild cards?
/Selig’d
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I can understand the hate
especially after reading
Still, leaving baseball’s self-proclaimed greatest fans
We are not “self-proclaimed”, at least not originally. The first I heard of us being the greatest fans was in a comment by Bob Costas some, what, 15 years ago now? Yes, he lives in St. Louis, but he grew up in New York. Of course we “proclaim” it now, but only because it’s true.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 1, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
i read this in the morning
a Cub fan I know linked it to facebook of course, so I’m sure he thinks its actually going to happen
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
So, the Marlins finally landed a FA.
jaysonst Jayson Stark
#Marlins agree to 3-year $27M deal w Heath Bell, pending physical. Expected to take physical tomorrow. More to come at ESPN.com
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 11:04 PM EST reply actions
dumb da dumb dumb dumb dumb
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
But he's sure to bring out the fans!
Right? He’ll be a big draw, right?
(is this thing on?)
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
this kind of display?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I hope the real thing is exactly like this.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
i hope it makes hideous noises as well
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
that would be excellent
I hope it makes weird dolphin and whale sounds
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Dolphins and Whales singing the Miami Vice theme.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
or the Baywatch theme
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
subliminal message:
Pujols is supposed to see the Arch and recognize Miami as home.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
I often find myself laughing at people who get guaranteed single year salaries higher than what I will make in my entire working career.
HAHAHA. Stupid Ryan Madson. HAHAHA.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Dec 1, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
do you understand what i'm saying
i will find it humorous if ryan madson turns down the phillies’ ridiculously overpriced offer and ends up taking less money because of it
that is what i’m saying
i'm pretty sure that's EXACTLY what his comment was in response to
by tehzachatak on Dec 1, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it's not funny when someone's greed ends up screwing them out of a bunch of money?
maybe i’m the only one who sees the humor in it
hmm
did Madson decline the Phils offer? I thought they pulled it or never formally offered it to him.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Jim Bowden breaks it down here
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not reading that
You should ashamed for linking to anything Jim Bowdne.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Madson/Boras and Phils GM Amaro agreed to a contract iirc
Phils president nixed it
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
this was like the day papelbon was signed
so it’s possible not much was known then. i was just driving from the airport and i turned on the radio and it said bernie miklasz was talking and i was like “wtf” and i was like “oh yeah, i’m in st louis”
I asked for $11 million and only got $8 million. #1%problems
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, I wasn't sure what it would come out to, so I just did the mainstream one.
Also, it largely depends on if you’re doing national or global.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I figured. I typed 0.5% before deciding that if I'm doing decimals I want it to be exactly right.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Changing the world one subthread at a time.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
just wait till we get to the passive voice
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I still have a hard time laughing at someone who is so clearly
still going to be better off than me. Even if he gambled wrong and lost out on 5M or whatever, he’s still making so much as to be irrelevant.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
I'm so grateful Motte was effective
and killed the nagging rumors about interest in a closer
Still not a werewolf.
And the two best players - Reyes and Pujols...
have like three teams interested in them combined.
Sign Roy O
thats about what I thought he'd get.
glad its not us.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, goodie
The Miami Marlins and free-agent closer Heath Bell have agreed on a three-year contract, pending a physical, sources told ESPN.com.
The two sides have been talking about a deal that would pay Bell $9 million a year. The deal also includes a vesting option for a fourth year.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
oddly enough this about the going rate a discount even
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
so what kind of compensation will san diego get now?
and we won the world series.
by YesWeOquendo on Dec 2, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Motte is set up to make some money soon
if he can hold on to this closer job over the next few years
Grit != flat out sucking.
The white spot on my computer is expanding every day
This isn’t good. Soon I won’t be able to see anything.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Is that what happens when you use the internet to masturbate? Computer blindness?
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
its harder to type with hairy palms
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
what computer do you have?
Apple has free replacements for certain affected models. i think you’re on a mac, maybe i’m remembering wrong.
I have a mac
But this happend because I dropped the computer off of my bed. I don’t think they cover phycial damanger.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
er... physical damage
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
ah, you would be correct
there was some issues with white/yellow spots randomly appearing on panels on some comps.
Seriously go watch The Muppets
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Your daily December Christmas song:
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer.
This is the 1949 version by singin’ cowboy and Angel’s owner Gene Autry.
Enjoy.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 11:21 PM EST reply actions
Just starting to watch
but my general opinion is that Costas is kind of a dick.
/Mark Halperin
//Jokes no one but me and bgh will get
///and maybe not even bgh
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
I remember that now
Stewart’s sketch on that was fantastic
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 2, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
At 59, without a gray hair on his head, can we assume that Costas dyes his hair?
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
much like Tom Selleck, this man does not gray
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Dec 1, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Probably,
but it happens. My dad is over 70 and still has coal black hair.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
So, you're saying you're from Jamaica?
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 1, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
This is apparently a reference to something that I don't know about.
Or I’m being dense.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Your dad is 70, and you claim his black hair is undyed.
Reminds me of the 80’s era joke:
Son: Mom, have you heard of the disease, AIDs?
Mom: No, honey, what’s that?
Son: Well, it’s a disease that attacks the immune system, caused by something called HIV. They’ve found that it mostly affects gay men, and Jamaicans.
Mom: Why are you telling me this, son?
Son: Well….because I have it.
Mom: ….Honey, I didn’t know you were from Jamaica?
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 1, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, maybe you're the mom in this scenario, and your dad is Jamaican.
"That catcher Torre sure ain't no chicken" - Jack Buck
by This...is...Sparta!cular on Dec 1, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
we're not mentioning Tony La Russa in this thread??
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Also, he's never had to shave.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
YOUR EXCITED?!!! FEEL THESE NIPPLES!!!
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Since the people whom I love and share a somewhat small home with
have been sick lately, I’ve been avoiding alcohol so as not to undermine my resistance.
After more than a week of abstinence, this totally mainstream and uninteresting pinot tastes mighty fine.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 11:45 PM EST reply actions
i sense there will be a sex joke here when i wake up tomorrow.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
imagine how much fang would enjoy that wine!
by tehzachatak on Dec 1, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
he'd just complain about not being able to get it at a bar
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So, I'm still doing an excellent job
as an unwitting straight man? It’s a dirty job, but someone’s gotta do it.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
you have the monocle for it
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
My roommates been here a lot lately
So I haven’t been able to “drink alcohol” in a while. It’s gonna taste when I get home for break.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
What
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i think he wants to smoke marijuana cigarettes.....reefers.
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 1, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Well if they're allergic it would.
Or wouldn’t if you’re my old roommate.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
I'm just saying.
And I’m still angry at her.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Marijuana cigarettes?
I heard those will drive you insane!
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
are you talking about drugs?!?
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 2, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
I have heard that hunger is the best sauce, I imagine the same is true for wine
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
so MLBTR
says that under the new CBA the Padres now get an extra 1st Rounder directly in front of the Marlins, does this mean that every type A the Marlins sign the Rockies lose a position in the draft?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I believe that is correct, yes.
Chalk that up under: Collateral damage from idiotic policy.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Anyone else read Childhood's End by Arthur C Clarke? Azru?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
i think i started that and then lent it to someone.
as with most books, i don’t think i got it back. Clarke rocks. and no, i will not write your book report, read it yourself.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Fuck you man, I read if for fun
But if you have any notes on The Tempest, I’d like to see them.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 2, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
VEP is in a west coast terrorism group?
by prophetjohn on Dec 2, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I actually have it in-house. marked up and all.
but I don’t have the notebook that goes with it. Tempest seemed pretty straightforward if you were down with at least one of the tropes. wasn’t all screwy like The Scottish Play.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
don't mention IHB
i never made that comment.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Wow!
How does she get her cookies to just come right out of the cookie cutter like that? Amazing!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
She turned me into a newt!
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Dec 2, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
I keep waiting for muppets to show up in that clip.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
so flipping around
“My First Place” buying in Soulard
tosh.0 with a young boy introduced to a lobster
it’s a sign?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I used to be an adventurer like you
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 2, 2011 12:15 AM EST reply actions
have the PTBNL been NY?
are we still waiting?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
assuming you're referring to the rasmus trade (it might help to specify)
i haven’t heard anything, but expect cash
cash can be swapped for PTBNL?
and I wasn’t aware that we were waiting for any other PTBN.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yes.
An eight-player deal was struck today, as the Blue Jays announced they’ve acquired center fielder Colby Rasmus and pitchers Trever Miller, Brian Tallet, and P.J. Walters from the Cardinals for starter Edwin Jackson, relievers Marc Rzepczynski and Octavio Dotel, outfielder Corey Patterson, and three players to be named later or cash considerations.
Still not a werewolf.
4 months, 6 months...same thing.
I think there is a 6 month deadline
#12in12
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Dec 2, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
writing a thrilling essay on
/clears throat
Critical Commentary of Felipe Guamán Poma de Ayala, ‘The Conquest’, in, C. Dilke, ed., Letter to a king: a picture-history of the Inca civilisation by Huaman Poma, p.109 line 14 to p.110 line 10
hows thangs?
Bursting into song.
not gonna lie, that sounds hella boring mate
things are about the same. still looking for work. still looking for love. i wonder if you can find love on twitter? and if so, how do you go about hooking up?
Balls
Its more interesting than it sounds
but right now i just want it done and out of my life forever.
I dunno about twitter… but i’m sure you could write a book ‘Finding love in 140 characthers or less’.
(also, you can add characters to the list of words Aranathor can’t spell)
Bursting into song.
i love Bon Jovi, i hadn't heard that in years
i’m already writing a screen play & a book about my life so i don’t know if i have time to write about love on twitter. i’d like to think you can find love anywhere, even on twitter
Balls
i did right after making that comment, for what it's worth.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 2, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
when i say i've always loved bacon, i mean i've always loved bacon
Balls
by gdm426 on Dec 2, 2011 3:42 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
always
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Dec 2, 2011 5:07 AM EST up reply actions
early morning internetin'
I just discovered this, wherein RiverRat and DanUp take command and pwn baseball’s birther.
also, bonus! surprise appearance by TOLAXOR
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Dec 2, 2011 7:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
It seems like Danup is a bad one to get mad at you
his clarity of thought and grip on satire leads to some memorable obliterations.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
all from the guy who brought us Kyle Lohse as we know him and his Orange Slice
It’s interesting and fairly conspicuous that Brannon deconstructs most of the comments, but leaves DanUp’s untouched.
Still not a werewolf.
jamie lee curtis mention was golden.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
dude scares the shit out of me the way he can turn a phrase
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Clubhouse Confidential
I don’t buy into baseball analytics as much as most people on this site. But I do believe in team chemistry & especially this past season, Karma! I don’t see what the big deal would be to bring back both Skip & Theriot. Its not like their salaries are holding us back from pursuing anything! Skip could platoon both 2nd base & outfield. Ryan is a good bench guy, to fill in where needed. Bring back Punto if concerned about a 2nd base fixture. Descalso can platoon between 3rd & short if concerns about Furcal’s health if he re-signs.
The teams chemistry is what drove the Cards through the last 2 months. Why mess with it! If it ain’t broke don’t fix it!
CliffNotes: "My Dad wanted me to be a baseball player!"
Roy Hobbs: "The Natural"
it's not like they would be blocking any good, cheap players with their clocks running out
oh wait!
of course… it is what it is.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
O..o
Not sure if serious……….
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
thanks, I like to throw that in as a variation.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 2, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Because Theriot and Schumaker suck at every aspect of the game.
They can’t hit, they can’t play defense, and they’re not fast. The one time Skip pitched, Aaron Miles took him deep. Their 2012 salaries won’t break the bank, but an extra million here and there adds up, especially when Albert starts making over $20 million.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 2, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Erm.
This is the problem with ephemeral terms about personality, grit, and chemistry. According to them, the clubhouse might as well be a voodoo ritual. Sometimes you throw in the fermented chicken neck of baseball (Ryan Theriot) and out comes magical wins. As anyone who watched the games can tell you, Theriot is actually very bad at them, and any salary that you pay him is far, far too much.
At least the argument is moderately more coherent with Schumaker, who has been with the team for some time and done what he can to help them win. The problem is that what he can do to help them win most is, oftentimes, not being in the lineup or on the field. He basically only makes sense batting against righties and with a pitcher who gets few ground balls on the mound. Unfortunately, we have one of the most ground-ball-dependent staffs in the game, so Schumaker’s biggest weakness is magnified. He makes the most sense on a different team.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
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