in memoriam: bob forsch, 1950-2011
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 5:00 AM EDT
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Printyou can't go home again.
the heroes of your youth had their meaning in a specific context, at a specific time in your life. and when you go back to revisit them, like a house you used to live in, they are changed. something new has moved in. not better or worse, just different and strange.
this is where my thoughts went when i heard about the death of bob forsch: perennial cardinal, author of two no-hitters, starting pitcher in three different world series.
bob forsch wasn't an all-star. he wasn't a cy young candidate. he didn't collect any gaudy array of awards. but he was a constant presence in the cardinals organization, spending the vast majority of his career in this organization. he started 21 games for the Astros in 1988 and 1989, along with some relief duty.
and he was a fixture in my childhood memories of the club. the first ballgame i ever remember attending was his second no-hitter. i was still a little boy who didn't yet understand baseball well, and no-hitters are by their nature uneventful, so i fell asleep. i remember waking up to the news that he had pitched a no-hitter, and trying to wrap my head around the concept. i didn't really understand what had happened, but i knew it was special.
from the adult world, looking back, forsch was a steady, unspectacular presence on the team. he was worth more than 4 wins above replacement as a pitcher only once. he was a pitch-to-contact guy who would have made dave duncan's heart sing. in the fast-paced, astroturfed, defense-first world of Whiteyball he found his calling.
the man had a career strikeout rate of 3.65 K/9, making jake westbrook look like pedro martinez. but he didn't walk many guys, leading the league in walk rate in 1980 with 1.38 BB/9 and with a career 2.68 BB/9. somehow, he translated his pitch-to-contact skills into a 15-season career.
he's not a hall-of-famer, though he's a decent candidate for the hall of the very good, especially in the jon garland sheer endurance division.
beyond endurance, his other real claim to fame on the statistical end of things was that he was an exceptional hitter, as pitchers go. he was worth a respectable, though unspectacular, 30.4 wins above replacement as a pitcher in his 15 seasons. however, he was worth a further 10.1 wins above replacement with the bat. we often forget to take a look at the offensive value of pitchers. while it's usually not determinative, it's non-trivial in many cases. in forsch's especially; there's a vast difference between being worth 30 wins and 40 wins over a career.
in 1976, he hit for a .363 wOBA; he hit for a .353 wOBA in 1980. he finished his career with a .249 wOBA. his only real career hardware - other than his 1982 WS ring - was a pair of silver slugger awards in 1980 and 1987.
he ranks 24th on the career list of most offensive runs earned above replacement among pitchers, trailing fellow cardinals bob gibson, jim kaat, and steve carlson.
in short, he's a decent candidate for the cardinals hall of the very good; maybe he even fits the starting rotation for their exhibition team.
but for me, he will be first and foremost a core member of the Whiteyball Cardinals.
along with willie mcgee, tom herr, and ozzie smith, he was a member of very select few to play on all three of the world series teams of the 1980s. in my mind, he is throwing no-hitters and blasting grand slams.
that is why it is bizarre for me to look back on those days and see him with new eyes, to try to judge him on sabermetric grounds. it's weird to think of a man who was larger-than-life to me in my youth as jon garland with jeff mathis's bat. instead, i'll acknowledge his limitations while remembering the glorious postseasons of the 1980s and the unique role he played in each one.
maybe i can't go home again, but maybe bob can.
thank you for the memories, bob. may the forsch be with you.
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You pretty much knew you had a great chance to win any game he started.
Maybe that’s an operational definition of a winner.
Thanks for the memories, guy
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
And now Bob get's to drink his Pepsi
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 6, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
I remember Forsch as the least-exciting guy I liked growing up.
I was excited whenever Tudor or Andujar would pitch, but I always knew we had a good chance to win with Forsch on the mound. He was a #2 guy who could have been a #1 on most teams in the league. Or maybe it was because he felt more connected to the 70s for me, a kid who BARELY remembers the 82 Series and has no significant memories until about 84.
Anywho… RIP, Bob. And, I think you meant Steve Carlton, not Carlson.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
When I think of
Forsch the memories begin in the 70s when, as we were still reeling from the vast stupidity of the Steve Carlton trade, Forsch was often our #1 starter, which tells you something about the 1970s Cardinals. I remember watching games against the Phillies that whole decade, having to endure the usual 3-hit shutout from Lefty but, now and then, Forsch would throw such a game of his own against Philly and we gained some small satisfaction.
My other memory of Forsch revolves around that 1983 no-hitter. I had tickets to that game, but had to sell them because I got a job working evenings and had to start on the day of that game. You can imagine how I felt when I heard the outcome. Of course, the good news is that I met my wife 1 night later at that new job. Que sera sera.
RIP, Bob.
well said, tom s.
you made an almost perfect description of how i felt about him. he was the everyman. while not flashy, he just went out and did his job and was more or less successful in the attempt. i remember listening to the 83 no-hitter on the radio. it was one of the great memories for me.
he was the kind of guy a kid could look up to. he always seemed like a decent guy and you never heard anything bad said about him. And as others have said, you always felt like you at least had a chance with him pitching. as we all know pitching wins don’t mean anything but forsch did hold the record for most wins at Busch II until MattyMo passed him. And I remember them saying that he actually used one of the bigger bats in the league.
a piece of my childhood and youth has been laid to rest along with many others over the years. i had always hoped that one day he would be a coach in our system and that will never happen now. i will just try to keep his memories alive and smile on them from time to time.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 9:06 AM EDT reply actions
When I saw the news yesterday, I first thought of when I called his grand slam against the Pirates
while listening on the radio with my dad. I called the shot, my dad laughed a little and then he hit it. Sweet.
My second thought, though, was of you and that great screen name “MaytheForschbewithyou”. A great tribute to a great Cardinal.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I remember that grand slam.
And I was listening to the radio, too. Pretty cool that you called it. Did you your dad look at you a little funny after he hit it and then ask you for lottery numbers? I would have.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. Did we even have a lottery then?
Take that kid to the race track!
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't remember.
I think it was around in the late eighties but couldn’t remember before that. I know we’ve been making ‘win the lottery’ jokes forever around our house.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
+100000
Forschie was the rock of our rotation for years, a Carp except the flip side of Carp without the K’s and intimidation. But every 5th day u knew we were gonna win. Adios, Moochacho…
:=8(
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Matty Alou dies
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/7186392/former-mlb-outfielder-matty-alou-dies-age-72
As I recall, this guy was a bright spot in the 70s.
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Nov 5, 2011 9:07 AM EDT reply actions
Along with old Andy Rooney.
it’s been a rough few days.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
add the gwar guitarist into the mix and it's an odd bunch
from different ages
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
heh. I forgot about him
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I had not seen the news on Rooney. Way to sad of a week. At least AR had a long life.
Forsch checked out too soon. May all the good guys somehow meet. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Wow...
I had no idea he was such a good hitter. 6th best since 1945 among pitchers by ops+ now that I look it up….
Sign Roy O
Awesome, random pic
Mike Shannon (left) and Tim McCarver (right) after the 1964 World Series!
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Nov 5, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions 16 recs
Whattaya know? They were young once, too.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
this picture is great.
for some reason Mike Shannon cracks me up…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I like Flood's quote about playing like the Indianapolis Clowns
Easily my favorite Negro League team name
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Nov 5, 2011 10:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think the clowns were a great team name, but
The atlanta black crackers have to be the best team name ever, maybe in all of sport.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 3:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Freeburg Midgets
Cobden Appleknockers
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 5, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Pekin Chinks.
They changed their name to the Dragons in the early 80s.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Nov 5, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I drive by the pekin exit on my way to chicago
and every time I’m in the car with someone who isn’t from illinois I tell them that story, and they refuse to believe me.
thats not a cold frosty one!
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
by Aranathor on Nov 5, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I find this champagne quite enjoyable.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YEAH CHAMPAGNE!
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That is so funny.
And it would be so out of character from the McCarver that we all know.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It's like opposite world.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
or it could be like that shot of Eckstein downing that bottle
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm imagining the Boog and Bombs show
filmed in kinescope.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
mike shannon could have been a truly great player
If his health had cooperated. He landed on his feet as a broadcaster, but his playing career was sadly cut short.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the longer I look at this picture, the less sense it makes
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
i'm the same way
it doesn’t seem possible. like a window into some alternate reality
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
Very well said Tom S.
Forsch is one of those players that was beloved by Cardinals fans as if he was a superstar, even though he may not had the results of a superstar. A great piece of a peak in Cardinals history, the adulation he has received from fans of those Whiteyball teams is deserved.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Nov 5, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Geez...
the attendance for his first no-hitter was only 11,495 and only 12,457 for his second.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
The 1970s were dark days for the Cardinals.
Not sure why it was so low for the second one, though. They’d won the World Series the year before and the fans should have been there. It was very late in the season, however, and they were out of the race. Could weather have been a factor?
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Nov 5, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I was at the 2nd no-hitter in 1983.
I sold beer that year at the stadium. That ’83 season saw the highest attendance in Cards history up to that time, but by the end of September the team had fallen out of contention and the crowds were sparse.
I was working the first base box seats that night. By the 6th inning the buzz had started and when the 9th came around I broke a VERY strict rule and just sat down in an empty seat and watched. (In those days we could sell beer through the entire game; vendors had their choice of when to stop selling.) It was pretty cool to watch. Expos did not like the idea of being no-hit, as you’d expect. I think it was Del Unser who was royally pissed at a called 3rd strike and gave the home plate ump some serious crap. He may have been tossed.
RIP, Forschie. He was a mainstay of the ’82 champions. I find his death at the age of 61 pretty shocking.
by Youneverknow on Nov 5, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Very articulate tribute. Thanks for the personal memories. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Interesting anecdote from that game tom s. linked to
where Forsch hits the GS. Todd Worrell, wunderkind closer of the ’86 season, went 1.2 innings that game for the save, on his way to an average of over 1.1 innings per appearance (and a 9-10 record with 36 saves) in his ROY season.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 10:45 AM EDT reply actions
...
http://robrains.com/friends-teammates-mourn-the-sudden-death-of-bob-forsch/
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
....
http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2011/11/05/remembering-bob-forsch%e2%80%99s-greatness/
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Forsch
Great post! When I started paying attention to baseball as an 8-year-old in the late 70s, Forsch was one of the few decent players (pace Garry Templeton, George Hendricks, and Ken Oberkfell) on a team that was not very good. Actually Ken Reitz and Ted Simmons were All-Stars so there at least two very good players. But Forsch was the guy that I loved. I think it was because he was a pitcher that could hit. And in arguments with my Cub-lovin’ cousins, it was something to hang your hat on. Plus, he and Ken were the only brothers to throw no-hitters. They could natter on about Dave Kingman all they liked, BUT Forsch had an ONLY to his name so there. They pointed out Bob’s inability to strike people out. And pointed out that even Bob Forsch could strike out Dave Kingman. It was silly, but it hooked me on baseball.
Reitzie was a lovable
player, yes, “very good”? Nyet.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Nov 5, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I started watching the Cardinals in 1988.
The first 3 trades I can recall were…in order:
Tom Herr for Tom Brunansky
John Tudor for Pedro Guerrero
Bob Forsch for Denny Walling
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
Ugh!
Who was the GM at the time?
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Nov 5, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You say this like you've never heard of
Charles Dallan Maxvill. My sarcasm detector is on the (alx)fritz, so you’re gonna have to let me know….do you really not know who he is?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, long time Cardinals SS and punchless hitter.
14 seasons, 11 fWAR
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what made him so great
his total uselessness at the plate. A lifetime .217 hitter with over 3400 ABs, the epitome of the all-glove, no-hit player. In 14 seasons and all those ABs, had a tolal of 6 HRs!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't be deriding Maxie's offensive stats
Mario Mendoza hit only .215 with 4 HRs in his career.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 5, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah but
Mendoza had less than 39% of Maxvill’s ABs.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Some mediocre hitters had warning track power
Maxie and Mendoza had Texas leaguer power.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 5, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, he was playing in the of the pitcher.
Doesn’t that explain his offensive line?
Oh, wait, no, it doesn’t.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Nov 5, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
"era" of the pitcher. Sorry.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Nov 5, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw one of those six home runs
and it was an inside the park one. Strangely enough, in the limited number of games I’ve attended, I’ve seen two inside the park home runs.
I think I saw that one, too!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but I bet he remembers each of them. . ..
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Aha.
Well, he was an interesting study in suckitude, as noted in Continental’s and my posts above, both as a player, and, to a lesser extent, a GM. However, as a kid in the 60’s, I was emotionally enthralled with him and Julian Javier as our double play combo.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Gibby
We must be about the same age. I thought that infield was awesome back in the day. It took me awhile to figure out that “Hooley” and “Havier” were actually the same player. When Maxville got a hit, it was a celebration. You didn’t get much past him at short, however.
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Nov 5, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Born in '58.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I started to ask what the hell made you fall in love in 1997
Then I realized that I started following in the early 90’s.
I understand completely, Pegasus.
Still not a werewolf.
I started living and breathing in 1989
So I feel pretty good for having missed this era
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Tudor for Guerrero worked out well.
Guerrero was pretty good for us, Tudor didn’t do much in 89 (hurt?) and came back to us in 90 and went out on a high note.
Herr for Brunansky probably wasn’t as big a win for us, but it wasn’t bad, either. Brunansky had some power and then got us Lee Smith (who was VERY good his first 2 years for us).
The Forsch trade was stupid, but it’s not like Forsch was good in Houston.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
(don't get me wrong. I loved Herr and Tudor and Forsch, and I hate the trades on an emotional level)
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Something else was going on.
Forsch had trade veto also, I believe, as 10-5 guy or whatever it was. He wanted to go. He mentions it in his book.
by Forsch's2nohitters on Nov 5, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The end of the 80s
the end of Whiteyball.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was PISSED with the Herr trade
and Tudor is still my favorite Cardinal of all time.
RE: Herr, I swore I’d never watch the Cardinals again after that trade. I was 10, and every core player on that team was my hero. Trading away Tommy Herr (or Smith/McGee/Coleman/Worrell) was an unthinkable sin.
I got over it as soon as Spring Training started.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
Yeah, I swore off the Cardinals for the rest of the season when we traded Colby
It lasted like 3 days
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
It lasted like the whole season for hazel though
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 5, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah...none of the trades were horrendous...
they just prevented me from developing an attachment to Tom Herr. I recall Forsch’s performance not being great in ‘88. Tudor returned, like you said, and became one of my favorite starting pitchers I’ve witnessed with the birds on bat. The list:
1. Carpenter
2. Wainwright
3. Tudor
4. Morris
5. Kile
6. Tewksbury
7. Stottlemyre
8. Magrane
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
9. Garcia (and climbing)
10. Rick Ankiel (I miss you, curveball)
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You had me at 12-6.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
No Woody Williams?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 5, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I almost put him in at #10 until I got caught up daydreaming about Ankiel's rookie season
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
kinda surprised costas didn't ask tony about ankiel in that interview
you know that has to be one of his big regrets.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 5, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't blame Tony, Matheny's injury, or the playoff setting for what happened to Ankiel.
He just lost it and it stayed gone. So sad. That was our Clayton Kershaw and his career was ruined by whatever was going on in his mind. IIRC, there was a matter of his father being locked up for dealing drugs or something.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Isringhausen?
He was an excellent pitcher even if his latter-day injuries made him painful to watch.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 3:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
starters only list...
Relievers would be:
1. Lee Smith
2. Worrell
3. Dayley
4. Henke
5. Isringhausen
6. Motte
7. Kline
8. Percival
9. T.J. Mathews – always liked this guy a lot for some reason
10. Russ Springer/Kiko Calero
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Esteban Yan got an endless supply of love
in the form of pastry.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
as did Ray "Burger" King...and Porkchop
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 5, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
As much as I dislike him now
I used to love it when “The Mad Hungarian” came in the game…
"You've got to have an attitude if your going to go far in this game." -- Bob Gibson
i'd have to have danny cox
somewhere in the top 7-8.
Mercilessly persecuted for my opinion of Gus Johnson since Fall, 2011.
Guerrero
almost single handly won it for the Cardinals in 1989. If the Cards had gotten decent pitching he would have. Best clutching season I’ve ever seen a player have.
I was 9, so I don't recall the details, but I really liked Guerrero when he was here.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Hell yes.
Pedro could not be stopped that year. He was automatic with RISP.
by Forsch's2nohitters on Nov 5, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
oh good Lord!
I forgot how bad those trades were.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
as fink pointed out
I’ll recant the Tudor-Guerrero trade.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I'll be rational.
None of them were bad. I just hated seeing my team get pulled apart.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
actually, i think I remember.
Anyway, I think it’s fascinating to what extend our childhood memories affect what we want out of our teams.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
It was just that the majority of that team
had been together for so long that when they started tearing it apart it was rough to witness. Those guys were our heroes, they shouldn’t get old and worn out and not good anymore. But they do. Time is a cold, hard bitch.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
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Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Your timing allowed you to miss April Fools Day 1987
Mike Dunne and LaValliere, Andy Van Slyke for Tony Pena.
AVS would be a cult hero in St. Louis and along with Ozzie, the only real player of talent in the early 90’s on that squad. Instead, he went on to Pittsburgh to be an amazing defender and cult hero.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 5, 2011 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
now he's a horrendous radio personality in STL
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
First time I heard him speak.
As a player I thought “Ok, not all athletes are smart.”
by Forsch's2nohitters on Nov 5, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
the first actual Cardinal related transaction I remember
was Jack Clark leaving to sign with the New York Yankees.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I never realized, but I showed up
just in time to see the dismantling of the greatest team of the ’80’s. Within a year and a half Whitey Herzog had retired. resigned
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
well, they gutted his team right in front of him.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
For no particular reason other than the randomness with which we choose favorites as kids,
I LOVED Tony Pena.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
It was the crouch he used.
Loved him too.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
as a kid I remember thinking
if I was squatting for that long, I’d want to stick one leg out to the side too….
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
this.
I used to emulate it from when he was with the Astros. That’s actually dangerous for a LLer to try. LL pitchers are always very accurate.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a Tony Peña catcher's mitt.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 5, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I was devastated by this trade
and I was only a few months away from my 6th birthday.
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 5, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally at a PC
and can’t sleep. Using fWAR,
We gave up to Pittsburgh:
AVS – 31.9 fWAR
Dunne – 1.7
LeValliere – 13.0
Total – 46.6
for Tony Pena – 3.6 fWAR.
We lost that trade by 43 fWAR.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 6, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I loved Van Slyke as a Cardinal
inordinate hatred came the Cardinals’ way from me after that trade.
Gibson for Manager!
furthermore, from 1987 thru 1994 (AVS in Pitt years)
AVS’ 31.9 fWAR would have been 2nd on the Cardinals only to Ozzie’s 37.8 and over double the Cardinals real 2nd on the list of Jose Oquendo’s 15.1.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 6, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
and in conclusion
from that span of 1987 to 1994, AVS was the 20th most valuable position player in all of baseball.
The 7th was Ozzie. Poor Ozzie didn’t deserve to play on such shitty teams.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 6, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't alive when he was pitching,
but he was one of the Cardinals that my Uncle, who is responsible for my indoctrination as a Cardinals fan, talked about all the time about being a true Cardinal and playing the game the right way. I always saw him as a great in Cardinals past, and he will always be a legend to me.
I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.
by Sir Sci on Nov 5, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I remember Game 1 of the '82 Playoffs
How he just wrecked the Braves.
He throws a 3 hit shutout. Has two hits a Run and a RBI. Set the tone for the post season.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN198210070.shtml
I'm watching Game 6 again
I get emotional every time I watch it. What an incredible game.
I know that narratives generally suck and don’t mean anything, but I really like the “The World Series went 7, but it was won in 6” one.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
kinda like the '80 winter olympics Miracle on Ice
the victory was the win vs the soviets, but that was only the semifinals
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Pal who owns the Home Run Bar in Bangkok plays the 6th game all the time ... .
Customers have to ask to see something else. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I was very young when Forsch was pitching
I will remember him as the first pitcher that I ever saw hit a homer. It blew my mind. I hadn’t realized that was allowed.
by YepYouGuessedIt...CardinalRed on Nov 5, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
The thing I remember about Bob Forsch mostly
was that he was such a neat looking guy. Always wore his uniform just right and with a tailored looking fit. Bloused his pants legs perfectly, just below the middle of calf of the leg.
Not at all like some of the sloppy pitchers of today like C.C Sabatha, who looks like he’s out there on the mound in a pair of bad fitting pajamas he’s slept in for a week. And Forsch always looked to have the perfect form for a pitcher, good windup, release. He looked good even when he was giving up hits and getting knocked around he looked stylish. Always wondered why he wasn,t a better pitcher all around because when he had his stuff he was good.
Pete Vuckovich and Gorman Thomas
weren’t exactly dapper.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Only 1.25 mil for Thome.
At that price, it doesn’t hurt so much to have a guy that’s only a Professional Hitter.
#HappySeason
Sounds like he really, really wanted to hang 'em up with Philly.
He and Manuel are tight too.
He was realistic about his salary and got to go where he wanted. Good for him.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I would give him 162 pinch hitting appearances if he were with the Cards.....
and I bet he’d pop 15-18 homers
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus a handful of DH starts.
Between him and Giambi, is the NL trending toward having a “DH” on the roster or are these aberrations? Honestly, I’d hate it if the Cards burned a roster spot on a guy like that. Let the kids play.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Possibly more an indication of those teams
having serious age/injury concerns at 1B.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I guess so,
but it seems like most orgs would have some hitter without a position that could stand at first.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
but i think it’s a market thing- there is an oversupply of those players, so teams can get them for cheap-ish, and at some point, depending on a team’s financial situation, it becomes a smart signing.
I'm working on the
Allen Craig
and David Freese
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 5, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh wow
I figured he was already making more money than that already
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course
All these guys are in (except Joyce, not made it to the Rays yet).
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I doubt if this qualifies but 7 WAR for just over a million sing me up!
Alex Gordon http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5209&position=3B/OF
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Clayton Kershaw has a shout at being the player
with the most surplus value produced ever. His first three years have been utterly insane.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Stanton probably
gonna have to check around and see if his defense is as good as BRef says.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I was going to throw out Hellickson
didn’t realize his FIP & xFIP were that high.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
way too many good, cheap catchers around this year
Avila, Wieters, Carlos Santana
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Andrew Bailey
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 5, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
bumgarner is still league min, ya?
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 3:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
True Fact
Todd Helton got paid over $20mil last season. Sweet Zombie Jesus.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Unrelated True Fact
Jason Motte thew out 49% of basestealers during his minor-league catching career
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
who was it they interviewed? lynn? garcia?
Who said that when motte was catching you had to step off the mound quickly when there was a play at second because motte would take your head off on the throw?
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that contract was big
but Helton was ridiculously good in his prime.
(note: Todd Helton is my favorite baseball player of all time)
and to be even fairer
this is his last stupid-huge money year.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
yeah
not going to actually go look up the value, because i don’t want to be totally disillusioned, but my immediate guess would be that his production over the life of the contract came damn close to the price.
yeah, in the "you pick a player as a kid and love them" kinda way.
got to watch him play in the minors, signed some of my stuff, really nice guy, and always loved the fact that he hit for average AND power- was just an absurd hitter in his prime.
yeah, my problem is that living on the east coast, i got to see very little Cardinals at a young age (except those minor leaguers who played in New Haven for that year)
so i don’t have the emotional childhood attachment to most Cardinals players that I otherwise could. except Ray Lankford, because he was fucking amazing in video games.
by the time he’s in his mid 30s, Yadi will probably be my favorite player ever, especially if he stays here for the rest of his career.
Roberto Clemente and Brooks Robinson were mine.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Nolan Ryan. For. Sure.
5000 k’s, 300 wins, 7 no-hitters, played for a million years, beat up Robin Ventura. Whats not to like?
Oh yeah…..“Rangers in 6”
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I never really realized how much I loved Lance Berkman and Randy Johnson
until I went back and looked at my old yahoo fantasy teams and realized they were both on my team almost every single year and none of those teams were in keeper leagues.
Pete Rose.
When we were in LL, everybody wanted to be pete rose.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'll take "Warning signs for what happens if you overpay Pujols for $1000, Alex"
Not afraid to nitpick
It'd be totally cool if Pujols' contract turned out like Helton's.
The Rockies ended up on top..
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Did they?
$141.5 mill over 9 years. I’ve got $116.7 M from fangraphs over that time period. That’s $24.8 M short, and nearly $3 M short per year.
by Cardinals645 on Nov 5, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm
looks like this would be the best case scenario for bert’s contract…
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Hmm, that doesn't sound right (Does it count the $23 million option cause that'd be a HUGE difference?)
1st year: 7.2 fWAR ($20.1) – $10.6 million
2nd year: 7.4 fWAR ($43.1) – $22.2 million
3rd year: 5.0 fWAR ($60.1) – $34.8 million
4th year: 2.2 fWAR ($68.1) – $51.4 million
5th year: 4.4 fWAR ($87.1) – $68 million
6th year: 0.8 fWAR ($90.9) – $84.6 million
7th year: 3.2 fWAR ($105.2) – $101.2 million
8th year: -0.1 fWAR ($105) – $120.3 million
9th year: Never happened – Woulda been $141.5
Anyway, even showing that is a little disingenuous because they reworked the deal for 2011. Although Cots is really confusing as to how it changed the deal. (I’m getting a $10.6 million salary on the “team list” which would make the contract about even.
Either way, if Pujols is entering his last season having exactly lived up to the contract, we’re looking pretty good most likely (Actually playing better than). So with the exception of last season where he was randomly a below replacement player, Helton was worth more than he was being paid by the slimmest of margins but still notable.
That happens to Pujols and we probably got lucky.
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Dan Duquette about to be named O's GM
Not a bad choice, considering everyone else turned them down.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
Hehhe
remember when Pete Kozma played for the 2011 Cardinals?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
He'll be reminded when he gets his ring.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 5, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Contribution to the 2011 Cardinals: Simultaneous Brown Note
I felt a great disturbance in Cardinal nation: as if millions of fans simultaneously released their bowels
I’m trying to think of the next most obscure guy on the club that’ll get a ring. Andrew Brown, maybe?
valdes
(ha! not a non-sequitor for once!)
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Anyone know
or is there a way of finding out, what the average number of IP by an SP was this year?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Are you including all SP
or is there a minimum for IP? Just thinking people like Bedard or Zito or even KMac can throw off the average.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 5, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably should be an arbitary minimum somewhere
it doesn’t have to be super-accurate i just need an arbitary cut off for pitchers in the Fanpost i’m writing.
I mean, would it be fair to say 160 IP for SP and 60 IP for RP?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
60 for RP sounds about right
probably 180 for SP if you use a minimum IP of 140
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 5, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
For starters
Go to mlb.com. Go to stats, pitching, regular season. Click on GS so it sorts by games started. Establish your cutoff. i.e. there were 128 pitchers that made at least 20 starts. Build a spreadsheet. I’m sure there are easier ways, but this would work for starting pitchers.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 5, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
it would be best if you could just use games started, and find the average from there
i don’t know if there’s any quick and dirty solutions for you though
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
His last start of 2012, if you want to see what the fuss is all about.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
I use it to right wrongs throughout the time stream. And pick up chicks. Mostly to pick up chicks.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Coco Crisp???!
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
acceptable.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
You've got Newton and Gauss on there
what about Einstein?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually crafted and wrote the list in under 60 seconds
That said, I prefer Newton and Gauss to Einstein, but Einstein makes the top 5 science/math folks.
Still not a werewolf.
Aw. Not even I think I should be above Carp.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
your handwriting is beautiful
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Nov 5, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
your handwriting is so scarily neat.
are you real? hypothetically.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
dude, stop watching me. creepy.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
my god
its so meta
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
i like the actual bolding. nice touch.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so which Submachine are you on, again?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Engineer / architect / draftsman handwriting.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It's either leftover from my fling with an architecture major
Or from the brief period when I considered majoring in EE or Aerospace.
Still not a werewolf.
i've been told i have good handwriting...
but mine looks like puke next to this.
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
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Was this right handed or left handed?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
left.
I didn’t think anyone would take notice of my handwriting. Sadly, it has overshadowed The Continental’s place on my hero list.
Still not a werewolf.
The problem is...
it’s legible.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Sounds like the title of the next Bollywood hit.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 5, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Nationals should.
They should be thinking about how they are going to counter that Halladay, Lee, Hamels rotation. Strasburg, Darvish, Zimmermann is a nice start. Add Bryce Harper, Ryan Zimmermann, Jayson Werth (he can’t stay this bad, right?), Wilson Ramos, Danny Espinosa, Michael Morse, Anthony Rendon, Drew Storen, and Tyler Clippard……This could at worst be a wild card team.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Jordan has two 'n's, Ryan only has one.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah..
I was happy I remembered the 2nd on Jordan’s and then got carried away
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
A man as young and good looking as me
shouldn’t have this much ear hair.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 13 recs
I don't know what to do with this comment other than recommend it.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Nov 5, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I went back and looked
and they never did show Forsch’s Game 7 pitch, did they? I remember waiting for it and you could see them walking out to the mound, but Buck was right in the middle of his opening monologue and I don’t think they ever did show it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
Several Forsch video tributes here. His Game 7 pitch is third.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Slightly apropos of Yu,
if anyone hasn’t seen the No Reservations episode in Osaka (S2, E4) that spends a lot of time exploring the Japanese baseball culture, go watch it. Netflix has it.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Anyone interested in Japanese baseball?
Robert Whiting has written several books on the subject. My favorite is The Bat and the Chrysanthemum – Also, You Gotta Have Wa.
worth finding and reading. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Now that the team doesn't have a manager,
blood pressure levels have steadied. Expect them to rise again regardless of who is named manager and expect them to soar as Albertgeddon approaches.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
actually i meant the voting thing on the left side of the home page – but, yes that meter too!
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO F yeah!
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 5, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You mopped the floor with that... mop
Anyone here have baseball? Anyone?
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
Should a been in the thread last night.
Lions vs. Hawks! Woooooooo!
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I still have my 52 - Kawasaki jersey I picked up in Japan in '05
Shortstop for the Hawks hits a grandslam. Of course I bought his jersey.
Proud to be a member of The Night of the Longest Train Wreck Ever (9/10/09)
I still have shit from when the Yokohama team was the Whales
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
still not up to full steam yet.
still a bit astounding at the post season. proper complaining to commence when a new manager is named.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
Forsch
When I was younger (just finishing college) I had a job in the pro shop of a golf course that some of the Cardinals would frequent from time to time, since the head pro let them play for free. This was probably around ’86 or so, given the players I remember coming through. As is often the case with such brushes with fame, the moments were often deflating, as the players could be incredibly cold and gruff, eager to enjoy their off day. But Forsch was an incredibly gracious guy who introduced himself as “Bob,” shook our hands, made a point of paying for things, and even appeared to be knowingly compensating for the behavior of some of his teammates. He seemed, above all else and even now, at such a historical remove, a kind man. That left an impression on me that stirred back to life when I read the news. R.I.P. “Bob.”
by RobbingGormanThomas on Nov 5, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
My dad met him at the warm-up a few years ago,
and dad, who could make friends with a fencepost, asked to see his world series ring. Forsch took it off and told dad to try it on, which dad did. Dad now gets teary-eyed whenever anyone mentions Forsch, and retells the story about the nicest guy that let him try on his world series ring when he didn’t know him from Adam… His untimely death is certainly a tragic loss, especially in light of the fact that the memories most have of him are of a good pitcher and a kind man. Ditto the R.I.P…
These personal anecdotes are quite nice. My thanks for posting this one.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
he can see your dreams.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
It's more of a scowl.
The scowl is my default facial appearance.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
i thought robots didn't have faces
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I don't have my wallet on me!
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Nov 5, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Where can I buy a tommy herr jersey?
The cardinals clubhouse store never has one, and I can’t seem to find one online. Is there a website you guys/gals know of that might have one?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 5, 2011 3:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fauxback
It doesn’t have yellow eyes and has a white outline around The Birds on the Bat.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 5, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
cheaper
http://www.fansedge.com/Tommy-Herr-St-Louis-Cardinals-Cooperstown-Replica-Jersey-_1599748437_PD.html
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent
Thank you
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 5, 2011 3:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Or, you could try to find a Dotel jersey, peel his name off
and glue Herr’s name on.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 5, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Also works for Rasmus...
which are probably easier to find
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Take a guess what pitcher had the highest O-Swing % in the league this year
pretty surprising when you see it
gotta be kershaw
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
ok...its been 8 minutes...
you gonna tell us or do i have to look it up myself?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
jeff francis
just because of the “surprising” factor
by hr on Nov 5, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
you shouldn't have included that part
it would’ve been more surprising
by hr on Nov 5, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but non qualifiers i mean nothing is really surprising
mike mccoy who is an infielder is in the top 5 or something
it was surprising to me
2 non-pitchers in the top 6 haha
by hr on Nov 5, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
fister is pretty weird to me
since he has always been known as a guy who strikes out no one and relies on a sinker. how about carl pavano in the top 10 too…what
note that both pavano and fister's o-contact are in the top ten as well
could mean their pitches are just pretty easy to get a bat on
by hr on Nov 5, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. I never wouldve guessed that
World Series Champions 2011. Unbelievable. Tony LaRussa, you will be missed.
i wish i could have had mike matheny teach me
how to play baseball. seems like a natural teacher
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
Forsch
…was one of those guys who you never thought “Shit, Forsch is pitching!” He wasn’t spectacular, he wasn’t particularly exciting, but whenever he was on the bump it always seemed like the Cardinals had a good chance at winning. He was also, by all accounts, a classy guy and a valued member of Cardinal nation.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 5, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
this is how I look a Forsch.
He was just … there. and good. As a young kid, I had an unhealthy like for andujar. I was young and didn’t know any better. but gosh, he was exciting.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
On the mound and at the plate.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't wrap my head around the idea of a pitcher putting up a wOBA in the .360s
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
I was talking about Andujar (I didn't make that clear).
He would hack viciously at anything he thought he could reach, sometimes damn near corkscrewing himself into the ground. 5 career HR, though.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
And destroying a toilet.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh.
[In 1986 with Oakland] He suffered numerous injuries along the way, including an injury sustained during batting practice even though pitchers do not bat in the American League.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I've been talking with my dad about it.
He’s been pretty bummed. Said he’ll him Forsch more than Andy Rooney.
He’s got a weakness for classy athletes.
Still not a werewolf.
seems a lot like the Cardinals latter part of the 20th century starting pitchers
like Tudor, Tewksbury, Bottenfield, etc
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
sorting a lot of my old baseball cards in preparation to give them to a kid who wants them, as i got a lot of mine
and i found a 1999 Chris Carpenter Blue Jays card. heh.
make sure you have both in your deck if you're going to use them
you can evolve the 1992 one with the 1999 one and get better moves and hp
by hr on Nov 5, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I could take credit for finding this.
New White Sox hitting coach Jeff Manto has a different view when it comes to taking pitches. telling The Mully and Hanley Show that walks set up double-play balls.
"Do we want Adam Dunn taking a ball (when it is) off the plate with a man on third and the infield back and you got (Justin) Verlander throwing and he walks him? I don’t know," Manto said.
"What happens is that you set up the double play. If you (hit) into a double play, you get out of the inning. We give high five for taking the walk, but we have arguably the most prolific left-handed hitter in the game at the plate. He can drive that run in."
From here: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/11/04/manto-dunns-struggles-in-the-past/
…how has this man not immediately been fired?
by SAFairGame on Nov 5, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
not anymore you don't
we have arguably the most prolific left-handed hitter in the game at the plate
by hr on Nov 5, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he was talking about
a.j. pierzynski
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
it's funny - I thought that one of the SABR ideas
That might have gained currency after the WS was the importance of walks. A generally good pitching staff got beaten in no small part because they allowed 41 walks.
Not that 7 games should be more persuasive than seasons and seasons of data, but sometimes high profile flops – as in the WS – carry more weight with some observers than a lot of data.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 5:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what the epic fuck
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
by nota bene on Nov 5, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oddly....
Jeff Manto was quite good at taking walks…
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean...
He’s right, the chances for a DP increase dramatically with a runner on First vs. No runner on First situations.
Of course, I don’t see how Dunn making an out instead is any better. Then you don’t need a double play.
Grit != flat out sucking.
it depends on if the clubhouse dissenters include the core
most of whom have re-upped their contracts
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
....permanently
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm, after they've seen the pacific northwest?
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
(Boog played in Alaska, so methinks he was familiar.)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he was a fairbanks goldpanner, to be specific.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 5:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
another good team name
assuming he wasn’t actually, you know, panning for gold.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
i would not put it past him.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
also your avatar is so apropos.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
also, he went to lewis and clark for college.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 5:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and he eats salmon
right before his ring pops.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
in fact, why would any team do that?
by tehzachatak on Nov 5, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
All I know is once Boog was off the team we won the world series.
it is what it is.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
was wondering when that was coming
lol!
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
the tlr style
remove 2 important players from the roster due to stubbornness, then go ahead and still win an historic world series, then retire.
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes, if half the "genius" statements about TLR included the word
despite
then it might be more accurate
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Tony LaRussa can't really hear your criticisms...
because his ears are all plugged up with World Series rings.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought it was the champagne
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes this is a good way of wording it
he still wins it despite some sort of pseudo-sabotage or him trying to throw fits
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It is what it is.
"You can't be friends with a squirrel! A squirrel is just a rat with a cuter outfit." - SJP
by zero sum gain on Nov 6, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
wasn't boog the most valuable position player for
The mariners or something?
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
leader in the clubhouse
offense juggernaut (relatively)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
WEEP
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/stevekelley/2015190810_kelley31.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2015378590_mari21.html
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sigh
now i’m gonna go to mlb.com and watch boog highlights, aren’t i?
..yep.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
oh god, I can't even bring myself to do that.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
don't do it
you’ll be forced to see things like this.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
it's too late
sorry VEB has greeted you with such a sob-fest
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the joy of a baseball fan can be fleeting.
and the heartbreak can last forever.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
i'm mostly mad
colby’s getting a ring and he isn’t.
or even Luddy, but Luddy got one too many cold streaks in his famous streakiness. (also i’m wondering if LaRue will get a share.)
basically, I think the team could have gone for a pennant at least in 09, then avocado happened.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm mostly railing against the cruel ironies of life
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=17585257
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
i'd like to think that could be considered a gritty play
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
That was an awesome stop and a great through
I miss that…:(
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 6, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
he is pretty good
and they are pretty bad. poor boog!
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Boog Facts:
7 fWAR in the last three years
Had a higher BA and OBP than Clobby did in 2011 (still lower wRC+ though)
Averaging 2.4 fWAR per 500 PAs in his career
that seems like a decent signature.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
too be fair
they both looked like Douchebags
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
by Aranathor on Nov 5, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just in the one pic, at least for Boog.
So he wore a graphic shirt once. Are you forgetting all his funny videos????
I think Aranathor is trying to be funny
or perhaps wryly amusing.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well Colby did look really douchey in the photo.
Even though, frankly, I always thought he was hilarious. Even his line as he left was pretty funny: “I hope he’s happy.” Always understated.
And lazy
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I think it's a matter of dressing douchey
vs. designing a douchey line of clothes
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"If it was me, I'd be following a guy like Pujols around and watching every thing he does."
“Well … everybody’s different.”
I remember DeRosa doing an interview in '09
and the interviewer asked him what he has learned from Pujols. DeRosa said that Pujols is so good that his advice didn’t help because average players didn’t have Pujols’s physical skills.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 5, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yadi must be an extraordinary specimen of physicality.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He certainly has above-average contact skills.
Yadi rarely swings and misses.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 5, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
remember when Brian Anderson described him as free-swinging in the NLCS?
lololololololol
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 5, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Very tough to stike out...takes very good at bats.
I loved that at bat a few years ago when he fouled off to a 17 pitch at bat, think it was 17 anyway
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 6, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
but wwwaaaait, how much are we paying Ryan Theriot?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Brendan makes 1.75 million next year in his would-be 2nd year of arbitration.
Theriot is heading into his 3rd year of arby. I think Theriot could make more.
Brendan Ryan
decent shortstop
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
but in all seriousness
the guy had a .313 OBP. Which, and i think i speak for most people when i say this, is pretty shit.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
That's above the league average for shortstops last year
Especially those who played in Safeco field.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
its still shit though
just less shit in context
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
context defines what is shit
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
going through these baseball cards is so fun
i have like 3 shoeboxes full, and i keep seeing things like “Nate Bump- Future Star”. the best part is mixed in with the probably thousands of cards is like 2 packs of Jurassic Park cards- so every once in a while, i flip past Joe Girardi and get velociraptored. i think 10 year old me did this to troll myself.
I've got 35000 baseball cards at my parents house
havent gone through them in 6 years or so.
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 5, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Cue the bored music.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTGoqle4m34
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 5, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
going to go make a skillet style omelet
must have food, all this caffeine is making me feel crazy
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions
This MLBTR article points to an interesting question. How the fuck has John McDonald had an MLB career for 13 seasons?
The guy’s got a .238/.275/.326 line, yet has just signed for another 2 years and $3mil more. In-fucking-sane.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
If my memory serves me correct, he's an outstanding defender
And he’s probably a really cool dude
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
'outstanding' might be pushing it
judging by his UZRs
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Boras is none too happy about it.
Bloomquist didn’t exercise his mutual option with the D-Backs and they signed McDonald. Here’s Boras’s reaction:
"It sounds to me like what happened is, they got upset when Willie opted out. They got emotional and they went out and signed a guy who hit .169."
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 5, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
"I get so emotional, baby, every time I think of yoo-ooo"
Dear Scott -
If it was a good idea to opt out, then you should be saying “there’s 29 other teams who’d love to have my client.” If you care about the d-backs signing mcdonald, then opting out was a bad idea.
Also, your client is old and not very good, and opting out of a major league deal was a terrible idea.
Also also, why are you reppping willie bloomquist? Shouldn’t you be lobbying for CC Sabathia to get a dedicated refigerator for ham sandwiches in the clubhouse or something?
Tom S.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Pretty sure Scott Boras understands the methods to maximize his player's salary
Not afraid to nitpick
CC also has a new contract
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Nov 5, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh heh heh
My new roommate is moving in and just brought in a stack of dvds. I’m excited for the realization that I only have a crappy tv with a VCR.
SURPRISE!
Still not a werewolf.
He'll be so embarrassed!
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Nov 5, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The excitement of my DINOSAURS: Fun, Facts, and Fantasy Vols 1 and 2
will quickly overcome the embarrassment.
Still not a werewolf.
DVD's....
Sell them while you can, before they turn into VHS tapes.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone going to watch the afl rising stars game?
8pm eastern on MLBN
the starting line-ups are as follows:
Rising Stars East lineup:
RF – Robbie Grossman (Pirates), CF – Mike Trout (Angels), SS – Junior Lake (Cubs), 3B – Nolan Arenado (Rockies), DH – Bryce Harper (Nationals), C – Derek Norris (Nationals), 1B – Ben Paulsen (Rockies), 2B – Brian Dozier (Twins), LF – Tim Wheeler (Rockies)Rising Stars West lineup:
CF – Kevin Mattison (Marlins), SS – Nick Franklin (Mariners), RF – Wil Myers (Royals), 3B – Mike Olt (Rangers) , DH – Michael Choice (Athletics), 1B – Joey Terdoslavich, LF (Braves) – Jaff Decker (Padres), C – Christian Bethancourt (Braves), 2B – Christian Colon (Royals)
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
any cards gonnna take place?
I was gonna watch the Blues before heading out
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Nov 5, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He's injured
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 5, 2011 7:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not sure
Happened last game before “rising stars” game. He hit a HR then came out.
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
From twitter
“#Padres 3B Jedd Gyorko has been named as a replacement for #STLCards 1B Matt Adams on the West Division team. #AFLRisingStars”
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 5, 2011 7:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pujols contract
I’m starting to get nervous about a term longer than 5 years. That might not be long enough to keep him, but so be it.
Boog would have made that play.
5 would be great. Anything more than 7 makes me squirm.
I’m having a hard time balancing how much I want him to retire a Cardinal and my desire for a competitive team with a sensible payroll.
Still not a werewolf.
I don't care about a sensible payroll...not my money.
I’d rather have 5 more good years of Albert and 3 less than good years instead of 0 more years of Albert.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
it's your fandom.
if albert handicaps the cardinals in terms of financial obligation and they can no longer field a competitive team, then you’ll care. so you should care about a sensible payroll.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I stopped writing my response and posted it because you used the exact verb I was using
and you posted the second half of my post.
How are you always in my brain?
Still not a werewolf.
i think maybe you just leave your backbrain unlocked.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Mr. Potatohead! Mr. Potatohead!
Backdoor passwords are not secrets!
"You can't be friends with a squirrel! A squirrel is just a rat with a cuter outfit." - SJP
by zero sum gain on Nov 6, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Do we know what handicapping would look like?
I mean, looking at our financial obligations going forward, there are plenty of ways to pay for a big contract to Albert. If we can extend Waino and Yadi to modest raises after their current deals are up, we’ll have a young, talented, and cost-controlled rotation with room to maneuver for position spots.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 5, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Estimated Payroll, 2012-2015 (sans Pujols)
Rotation:
Carpenter – $10.5MM (2012) – $10.5MM (2013)
Lohse – $11.85MM (2012)
Waino – $9MM (2012) – $12MM (2013, last year of current deal) – $17MM (2014) – $17MM (2015)
Westbrook – $8.5MM (2012) – $8.5MM (2013)
Garcia – $3.25MM (2012) – $5.75MM (2013) – $7.75MM (2014) – $9.25MM (2015)
Miller – $500K (2013) – $500K (2014) – $3.25MM (2015)
Martinez – $500K (2013) – $500K (2014) – $3.25MM (2015)
Fielders:
Holliday – $17MM (2012-2015)
Berkman – $12MM (2012)
Yadi – $7MM (2012) – $12.5MM (2013) – $13MM (2014) – $14MM (2015)
Freese (not arb eligible until 2015) – $500K (2012) – $500K (2013) – $600K (2014) – $3.5MM (2015)
Jay – $400K (2012) – $500K (2013) – $500K (2014) – $600K (2015)
Descalso – $400K (2012) – $500K (2013) – $500K (2014) – $600K (2015)
Craig – $400K (2012) – $500K (2013) – $500K (2014) – $600K (2015)
Payroll (approx.):
$81MM (2012) – $68MM (2013) – $58MM (2014) – $69.2MM (2015)
Plus a good, young, cheap bullpen. Obviously making some assumptions with Waino and Yadi, and I don’t know what’s gonna happen with Carp or Berkman after 2012, but does this look like a hamstrung team, even with an albatross named Albert Pujols? What am I missing?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 5, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i assume we won't be paying Next Manager as much as TLR
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Unless it's Francona.
Yet another reason to go with Oquendo.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 5, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
what was Tito paid?
iirc TLR was far and away the most
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
actually not as much as i though
$4MM this year, per Cot’s
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 5, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i heard they're hot, too.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Waino's non-bulldog look goes a long way
I mean, what a smile.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Albertross
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
by akaitori on Nov 5, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
overhead, hangs motionless upon the air
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 6, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Since the beginning of September
I’ve been convinced that we were watching Albert’s last year in the birds on the bat. But now, I’m not so sure. We can afford him. And we’re the ONLY team that can justify giving him a big contract. He’s going to tail off, but only with the Cardinals will he be getting paid for past performance. Any other team will just be paying him for all the beat-downs he’d delivered upon them in the past. So…
Mo will make it happen. 9 years, $260MM. With a player option for $25MM for the 10th year. That’s my guess.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Worth it?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what it's going to take, at least AAV-wise.
285 for 10 seems like it’s more than what it’ll take though. If we’re doing 9, I’d say more like 234 M.
well then it's a good thing i'm not GM
i will repeat…we’re the only team that kind of team would make sense for. if the rangers/cubs/angels paid him that much, then no, not worth it. not ever. but since he gave us the best bargain in baseball for 6-8 years, i don’t mind overpaying him for 4 years toward the end of his career.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
*that kind of deal.
i’m a little drunk.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't think that makes sense for us at all
paying pujols 28 million dollars when he is 41 years old would be a complete disaster
but paying him $600K
in 2002 was o so nice
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
You're doing it wrong.
That’s not how contracts work.
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I still think the Rangers could do it.
They just got that big TV deal, and their payroll isn’t even in the 100 M range yet, which they could totally afford. I think their window is pretty clearly NOW. Colby Lewis, Hamilton, Kinsler, and Napoli could all be gone before 2014. Michael Young too, but that’s a good thing with that contract. I don’t know too much about their system, but I doubt it’s deep enough to replace those guys. I think they’d want to push to put them over the top now. If I were them, I’d think about overpaying Albert or Prince for a “short” contract. See if Albert will do 5 years 170 M or something.
they could do it.
the rangers SBN blog seems to think 1B is their biggest need, so if they want offense, they should land either albert or prince. but with wilson leaving, they’ll more likely be going after pitching this winter.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Oddly enough,
they really don’t want either one. Albert’s too beat up and Prince’s body type isn’t anything they seem to want.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 6, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
yep.
I hope they end up paying for him what the Sox did DiceK. That’ll keep them in check. Cuz the Sox will never get the value out of DiceK for what they spent.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 6, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't hope that. It'll only drive up SP prices
And they play in the AL West — No matter how good they are, the odds of us facing them in another series match is quite low. Doesn’t hurt us for them to be a good ball club.
Then again, we seem set at SP for a while. Lynn and Zep ready to step in potentially, with Miller, Martinez, Cleto, etc. developing in the minors.
I'm just not a big fan
of Japanese pitchers. After watching some of the Japanese playoffs, most of them are really soft tossers and Darvish is like DiceK. Just enough of an anomaly to dominate hitters that aren’t used to hard throwers. He is supposed to have some nasty breaking stuff, but we’ll see. I think he may be good for a while until the hitters over here figure him out. But I very well could be wrong.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 6, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I really like Japanese pitchers windups
When I was still playing baseball I settled into a pitching motion similar to dice-k’s.
I remember it really helped with command of fastballs and sliders, and that crappy circle change I threw. But I couldn’t throw a good curveball without changing the arm motion. Also I couldn’t pitch from the stretch nearly as well.
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really though
how much did Dice-K’s price drive up the market? there were plenty of cheap options that year…Smoltz, Lieber, Pavano…all with better years than Dice-K following that ’06 rush
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions
You'd think they'd have to get a 1B or LF.
If it were me I’d move Young to LF, and sign a 1B. DH Napoli.
Where did you see they didn’t want Albert or Prince?
No, I suppose not, but it just seems like a waste to have Moreland and Gentry playing 1B and LF
I guess Young usually plays 1B though, but he’s not great at it.
It was in some of their discussions
right after the WS. They were discussing this very thing. They may have changed their minds by now. But none of them seemed too keen on either of them.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 6, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
thats the future's problem.
I might not even be around for that.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, I stopped forming my logic because il rosso posted everything I was about to post.
ignore my post.
Anyway, that kind of logic is what got the Cubs where they were the last few years.
Still not a werewolf.
except Soriano + Zambrano + Fukudome + Dempster still don't equal 1 Albert Pujols
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I said that tongue in cheek, but
the last 2 years those 4 Cubs players totaled 15.0 fWAR to Alberts 12.6 fWAR.
Pujols made $32 Million during that time. Those four made $131.25 million.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet zombie jesus
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I know you're not being serious
but it’d be more important to check their fWARs in their contract years. I’m at b-ref, and the combined WARs of only Dempster, Zambrano, and Soriano in contract years is 15.2. Not Pujolsian, but pretty good for 3 players in one season.
Still not a werewolf.
how would 6 years 170 million make you feel?
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be awesome....
but it’ll only get you Prince Fielder
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd go for that
I don’t think Albert would, tho.
"You can't be friends with a squirrel! A squirrel is just a rat with a cuter outfit." - SJP
by zero sum gain on Nov 5, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
that's almost 28.5 mil per year
I don’t see why he wouldn’t take that for 6 straight years! how about 7 years 200 million? that’s my absolute max I think
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
For six I think he'd want 180.
If he can command 8-10 years, then to take 6 he’ll want to be the first 30 million man in baseball. Even then he’d likely rather have 7 and 200. Maybe 6 190, with a team option to make it 7 200? Just spitballin’ here.
6/180 with 20 mil option for year 7?
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, with some sort of large-ish buyout.
Like, the buyout makes it 180, and the option makes it 200 or something. I think that’s kind of tough for the team to swallow, but it’s also not quite as much as what Albert/Lozano want, which is pretty much what any deal is going to have to be.
how many Cardinals-only records remain for him to break, eh?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He's still 30 away from Musial in HRs
and 280 away in doubles. Also, he’s 162 triples away, and 804 SBs away from Brock, and 251 wins away from Hoot.
"You can't be friends with a squirrel! A squirrel is just a rat with a cuter outfit." - SJP
by zero sum gain on Nov 6, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, I'd be pretty floored if he took that.
I think he’d be more likely to consider the same amount of money in a shorter time span. Idk for sure that he’d take 6 180, but I’d be surprised if he didn’t at least consider it. Somewhere in between there and 10 280 are the terms he would consider.
yes, he does. and comparatively, he has a point.
but i’m not sure the market will bear that. There wasn’t a recession then. And I think current consensus is that the ARod contract isn’t a good one, but an example of Yankee overspending.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
well, i guess i'd look to see who was making 25/per
and if it looked like they earned their money
the thing about apu that bothers me is 3 straight years of declining production
i don’t believe there is any chance albert will be apu 2011 in 2016
for example, cc signed for 25m 6 years out
lee and halladay are <25 now
paying apu 25m+ 5 or 6 years out is not a good idea
TLR is gone, long live the king
Dead VEB is dead
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Homework faster damn you!
Faster!
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
i'm not very entertaining at the moment
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
neither am I. I'm actually productively homeworking
oh wait not anymore. The new roommate brought oreos
Still not a werewolf.
they make all kinds of newfangled oreos
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think my brother gets the double-stuf golden ones and refrigerates them
I don’t even know him anymore
Still not a werewolf.
why... refrigerate?
hypothetically
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He also spreads Nutella between 2 Costco vanilla animal crackers and refrigerates those
Still not a werewolf.
high metabolism
and moderation in all things.
however, the real tricky bit is whether one’s blood vessels are full of gunk.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Despite the reports of my spaghetti fests (I'm all out of supplies now),
I’m a pretty balanced eater. Also, my cholesterol levels are remarkable. Is it possible to have clogged arteries if your cholesterol is impossibly low? I don’t know these things.
Still not a werewolf.
well, not accounting for sorcery.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
or Lycanthropy
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Training wheels for frozen thin mints.
Shameful confession- I stash / hide boxes of thin mints from the rest of the family. I’m running low. When is cookie season again?
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Oreos ftw
also, thats the first time i’ve used ‘ftw’ in a long time.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
So
is this what life without baseball is going to be like? Cause in that case, i want baseball back.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
what you really ought to do
is find some way to get gdm in here
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm really curious as to when they can change the signage around Busch Stadium
they have to move the flags over… the dugout stickers will be easy.
but they put a black frame over the sign with the years over Highway 40 oh sorry I-64, so do they just take the whole thing down?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it looks like
[1926 1931 1934 1942 1944 1946 1964 1967 1982 2006]
and it doesn’t look like there’s much margin space to make room for more
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
they'll probably just shunt them all closer together
i imagine they planned for this inevitability
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
oh god not more horrible kerning
the whole postseason I kept staring at “Stadium” and willing the letters to move over
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Cleaning office / destroying old 'puter media.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
physically destroying?
cause thats fun
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
now i picture him with a monocle and a sledgehammer
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes, exactly.
Except for the hard drives that I nicked the magnets out of.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I'm always homeworking
This is why I always seem to be around here. I usually have my computer open when I’m homeworking. And the homework never ends.
Still not a werewolf.
I need something to listen to and my brain is focused on not-music.
Any good recommendations?
Still not a werewolf.
i rarely multitask to music, unless it's specifically to set a mood
in that case i randomly look for music in languages foreign to me, so I can’t listen to the lyrics and then think about the lyrics and go all bobo on the lyrics
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
lots of music doesn't have lyrics
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i should say i still like to hear the human voice
(it gets a little too hypnotic, even with voice-like instruments like electric guitar or violin)
but lyrics distract me a bunch
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Soulcalibur I and II soundtracks.
Especially
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAFwrNGVgzg
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKD5CJPIvKw
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZwjlnDARhY
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
see, where were you when i dumped a whole bunch of anime soundtracks
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i find when life is grinding me down, it's good to feel like a champion
like of parallel parking
or finding my winter gloves
or buying something on sale
or watching your WORLD SERIES CHAMPION ST. LOUIS CARDINALS WOOOOOOOOOO
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Gotta go a little older-school
With some Soul Edge/Soul Blade music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oq25f2CaN8
Jazz is good homework music
But you need some Miles Davis smooth jazz.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Albert will sign with the Cardinals: yea or nay?
(I don’t mean whether you want it or not, but whether you think it’s going to happen)
Still not a werewolf.
not sure, chalk. still waiting on that Mystery Team.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I really strongly believe that Albert knows and wants what he can get here that he can't get anywhere else.
All this song and dance is just to maximize the money; I really think he’ll take our best offer unless some other team absolutely blows us out of the water.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Yea, I'd say 5-15% depending on the length.
10% at $200 million is $20 million, which is pretty sizable. That’s an awful lot to pass up.
by Cardinals645 on Nov 5, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
but what of your eyes and mind and heart?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
bah.
They’re forming a committee to discuss the issue and reach a consensus. My gut just DGAF.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The mediator between his eyes, mind, and heart is his gut.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Nov 5, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
man, that quote of Tony's was paraphrased by one of the Fox dudes, too.
it’d be tough to find it exactly
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it sounded like an industrial process
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yea.
given the current market situ, I think so.
Sawks/Yanks: out of it. no room.
Dodgers: no money, up for sale. Mets, the dame, except the up for sale part.
Angels: too much payroll, I’m guessing.
Cubs: Isn’t Theo going into a rebuilding phase?
Marlins: Could be, but they’re not a contender. Non-contenders would have to way overbid, if Albert really is sincere about winning.
Nats: possibly, they are closer than the fish. But they’d still have to overbid, which isn’t to say they wouldn’t.
Ironically, i think the closest competitor is the Rangers. They may have a shot. I just hope no team is out there driving the price up so high as to make Albert an eventual lodestone of a contract. In any case, he’ll probably get a contract bigger than what he’ll be worth for his 32 years. And if that downside is too big, which i fear it may be, then I wouldn’t be all that heartbroken if he signs somewhere else. Which would still be a shame, but I wouldn’t be angry about it.
At this point, I’m more afraid of some 9 or 10 year deal that sinks the team than I am of him playing somewhere else.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
I'm glad that Prince is on the market at the same time.
The Nationals are definitely overbidders, but as a young team, I think they’d prefer Fielder to Albert. Same with the Orioles.
Still not a werewolf.
yea, forgot about the o's
but they’d have to go way over for Albert to go there. Not winning anytime soon, those O’s, and the fanbase isn’t pressing them to make that kind of move.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
Hell, the 0s are having trouble getting a GM to even agree to interview with them.
I can’t seem them as a player at all.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I'm part of the fanbase
and I’m pressing them to make a big move. (But not a big move involving Albert, of course.)
Of course the O’s idea of a big move is signing Garrett Atkins and trying to make a 1B out of him.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Nov 5, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
funny that by beating the rangers we may have taken his best competitor out of the deal
who would leave a world series winning team for the losing team? I guess they will have to pony up a little more if they want him. although, perhaps I am comparing Albert to Edgar there.
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 5, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't agree with this
Making it to the Series two years in a row shows they’re a great team, and Albert knows that adding himself to any team drastically improves that team.
Still not a werewolf.
Especially given that an AL team can afford to give him the longer more robust contract
with the DH
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
I think the Nats would think twice after Werth's performance this year.
The Rangers do scare me though. Angels also have Trumbo and Morales for 1B/DH.
How far out were the Marlins this year? You’d thinking adding Pujols would bring them pretty close.
that 'if' is pretty damn gigantic though
plus they’ve got LoMo and Gaby Sanchez to try and stuff into the 1B position.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I read somewhere they would stick with mitch moreland at 1B next year
by hr on Nov 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
it would surprise me if they don't make a run at albert.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I think they're definitely going to try to make a move
but to be honest, I don’t think there’s any way pujols will not be a cardinal in the next 5 seasons. We got Matt Holliday, Lance Berkman, and Waino next year, and Pujols would want to walk away from that? Please…
by hr on Nov 5, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Never mind, I must've made that one up
It seemed fishy as I typed it out
by hr on Nov 5, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Seattle?
Don’t know if that’s realistic or ridiculous, but they could use some O.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Nov 5, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
No chance
Mariners are in a full-blown youth movement. Shed a lot of payroll recently. Traded Cliff Lee to get Justin Smoak at first base. Can’t see Albert wanting to play for a doormat like the Mariners at any salary
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 6, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
long as they have Felix
they’re not a doormat. though they should’ve kept Fister. they can fuck with the rangers if they like.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
With all due respect
Mariners have had Felix for years and have pretty much been permanent cellar dwellers his entire career. Felix has six full seasons. In that time, Mariners have 4 last place finishes and one second to last. The Mariners can only dream of competing with the Rangers.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 6, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
They have Justin Smoak and they suck at baseball.
Rebuilding teams don’t go after Albert Pujols.
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would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes, but that was quite a long time ago.
4-5 years at least.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah. I hadn't had cable in 10 years prior to getting it just prior to this season for FSMW.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Hate to break this to you,
Mtv doesn’t play music videos any more.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
They were already moving away from that years ago, but M2 looks promising!
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
dont tell 'em about president
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh i have a bad feeling i've screwed up the previously on VEBs
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
damn.
I only did the first of the October 5s
taking 8 minutes to load is just not good…. but it’ll take even longer to restart
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Aranathor
Anybody else
seriously considering the possibility that, maybe. Just maybe. The 2011 Cardinals, for all their flaws, awful performances and mind-boggling decisions; can actually pull this out of their collective ass?
by Aranathor on Oct 6, 2011 8:11 AM CDT
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
damn i'm good
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
by Aranathor on Nov 5, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the collective ass!
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
if you're into that sort of thing
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Well...some of us did forego pants during the games.
Saved on dry cleaning charges.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
surreal art
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sucks to be Victorino
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
from tomsteele
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
YOU DONT THINK THE CARDINALS CAN PULL A WORLD SERIES VICTORY OUT OF THEIR ASS?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 5, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
apparently i did think that
Well, baseball was fun.
by Aranathor on Nov 5, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
....and green for being optimistic
i’m not even sure fink was this optimistic!
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
if anyone is going to restore the lost World Series thread
a placeholder post has to be up one day (preferably two days) before the month comes around. I might have some time to help with html cleanup but the placeholder post must, I repeat, must be up before comments close if you want it to be linked.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ok, trying to load the chronological fanposts / fanshots
destroys my browser
so if there was any from the first ten days of October of note, please let me know.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and I think I'm linking overflow threads where they should not be linked
thanks SO MUCH sbn for labeling fanshots “one month ago”
well no sh*
to make up for my incompetence, a d-dee special
entitled NLCS
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MHlhaLbkjG4/To-4Yl6eFbI/AAAAAAAAA4c/IU8iC4bw824/s513/yadi.gif
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
awwww.
Waino said they had the hearts of lions.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what in the sam hell is this!
yep. I really will miss a lot about him whenever he leaves.
My mid-season predictions contest RESULTS
See if you won!
by a fink on Oct 7, 2011 10:18 PM CDT
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm still seeing apathy comments after the Cardinals make the NLCS.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
not sure you get a prize
besides nostalgia
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well, if this game is any indication,
the east has no future. 10-1 west after three.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
it's basically the top prospects playing in the arizona fall league.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
The last Yu Darvish start of 2012.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
just curious
does anyone have the last thread of LSB for game 7 link?
I’m still catching up
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
well that was depressing
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
the place kind of died after Game 6
You can’t blame em either
by hr on Nov 5, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Work wears me out.
Gonna wind up working sat and sun this weekend. Tommorrow I’ve got to rework my MSP Annual article and finish my 2011 draft review. (O and write a VEB post.) I also need to get ready to fly out on Monday to Pennsylvania for work as well.
So basically, work is taking over my life. But, between the flight and hotel time, I’ll probably finish The Devil’s Star before I’m back on Wednesday. I just wish I could balance out all this shit I have to do and not feel overwhelmed every day.
But such is the rat race.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
O and
it irritates me that I still can’t get Nesbo’s The Batman or The Cockroaches in the US. Someone translate that shit, STAT.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
I appreciate it but it is already in my morning schedule.
Everything is written down for tomorrow and I go to bed in 5 minutes. Changing my pre-determined schedule would be more detrimental than getting that extra hour.
I know that probably doesn’t make much sense (and it seems martyr-ish) but my brain is like that.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
You should work on your Norwegian instead so that
you can translate those books for me.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
in case nobody's ever said it,
you guys are awesome. Thanks for the great stuff y’all post every. single. freaking. day.
by hr on Nov 5, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Thanks.
Not fishing for compliments. Just fishing for more hours in the day. Tonight I think I might catch an extra hour.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
azru, you're the best
… at everything.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 5, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
well, obviously
why else would i say it?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 5, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
a toast! A toast i say!
for our glorious overlords!
Huzzah!
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
well said, Brit
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I can write a piece about why the Cardinals
should resign David Eckstein.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 6, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I should have expected to find something like this.
That is the LAST TIME I open up to any of you on VEB. Emotional sharks . . . every last one of you.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Oh, man.
Just found my first CompuServe disk from Novell from 1994. Has my CompuServe ID and password on it.
NOVWINCIM 1.2 for Windows
Rates and pricing:
300 / 1200 / 2400 baud US $4.80 / hour
9600/14400 baud US $9.60 / hour
#HappySeason
that belongs in a museum
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R16be0l3PLE&feature=player_embedded#
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Just came from a sports bar where I had to yell at the manager (who is cute) to not turn off the Mizzou game.
They were trying to turn on “The Game of the Century” instead. However there was a big screen with the South Carolina game on right next to it. I was like change that one.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Roll Tide
I mean I wanted to to watch GOTC too but Mizzou was on one tiny TV in a secluded corner…I felt it wasn’t much to ask.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
no politics
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 5, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Surely
in this situation it would have been better to hit on said cute manager, thus getting the game on and possibly free drinks.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I didn't really yell at him.
I had to yell so he could hear me. And then I pouted and told him I was from Missouri and never got to watch them.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Pop Warner? No thank you.
I found this quote from him about hitting…
“Warner said Pham would benefit from generating momentum at the plate and not swinging from a standstill. He’s stopped dropping his back shoulder and trying to elevate everything, which has improved his discipline at the plate.”
The guy knows nothing about hitting, but this does explain some of the problems I see in Pham’s swing. It also explains why most of the AA guys seem to have a problem with lunging (his comment about momentum).
Boog would have made that play.
hasn't Tommy Pham performed far better under Warner than any of his previous stops?
In fact, its not even close.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he helped him some with his approach
But it’s largely in spite of him rather than because of him.
Like I said, trying to generate momentum is a bad idea because it can lead to lunging and lunging is bad.
If swinging from a standstill is so bad, then why have both Pujols and Edmonds (and many others) been so good despite it?
I’m not interested in a manager who hasn’t spent even a token amount of time looking at video of good hitters.
Boog would have made that play.
So, you know that this is a hitting coach's job yeah?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Not to mention that this isn't what Springfield hitters actually do.
But regardless, I like Warner a lot. I think he’s incredible with the players.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
meh...different things work for different players.
At this point Pham should continue with whatever is working or he’ll have absolutely no future at all.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone need a copy of DOS 4?
5 1/4 floppies? Degaussing coil?
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
they make a pill for 5 1/4 floppies, or so I'm told.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I have DOS 2.1 on 5 1/4 at work
along with an unopened package of 8" floppies. exciting stuff.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
I have DOS 1.1 around here somewhere,
but I’m not giving that up.
And everyone on the Internet has 8" floppy.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
well, they may say it's 8"..
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
I still have some punch cards from a peripheral machine that I worked with back in the mid-70s
the company I worked for had a Singer mainframe…as in Singer sewing machines….
"You can't be friends with a squirrel! A squirrel is just a rat with a cuter outfit." - SJP
by zero sum gain on Nov 6, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Singer mainframe is a new one on me.
The early computer industry had some odd ducks, for sure.
Punch cards were a technology that I was, thankfully, spared.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 6, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
my cobol teacher in college
used punch cards for namecards in class. He always joked he’d have to retire when he ran out of punchcards since he couldn’t get them anymore.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
The machine I worked on was so marginalized.
The tech was from the mid-60’s, I think. The mainframe sat in the middle of the computer room, which was a/c’d to about 65 degrees. There were two banks of those big tape machines (maybe 20 total?), in an L shape, both about 10 feet from the nearest walls. The punch-card machine I worked on sat behind one of the banks, up against a wall. I could not see anyone else in the room. Punch-cards, which were used as inventory control, came in from all the stores (about 1500 nationwide), and I had to feed most of them into this damn machine, which jammed about every 5 minutes or so. I spent most of my summer (thank the GOBs I only did this one summer, for about 12 weeks) unjamming that stupid machine. The day I left, I looked behind the machne, and there were a handful of cards that had fallen back there. I grabbed them and left. They’re in a box somewhere in my basement (if my wife hasn’t thrown them out).
"You can't be friends with a squirrel! A squirrel is just a rat with a cuter outfit." - SJP
by zero sum gain on Nov 6, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
If you honestly want / need it, e-mail me at the address in my profile.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
was jok
although i do have a lot of monitors around here that are probably desperately in need, except i will also probably never use them again
Are you suuuuuure you don't want it?
It makes cool buzzy noises when it’s on and makes pretty psychedelic patterns on CRTs. It’s pretty nifty!
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 5, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll miss you!
"You can't be friends with a squirrel! A squirrel is just a rat with a cuter outfit." - SJP
by zero sum gain on Nov 6, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone else think that moving out of Loser Field and
playing a regular night time schedule in a brand new stadium would work wonders for the Cubs. At some point don’t you have to cut ties with your wretched past?
Apparently not….Theo is trying to secure funding for $300 million worth of renovations for Wrigley.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
Needs at least that much spent on it.
Stinky ballpark.
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
Nah, that's the right move for them.
Wrigley is like their whole identity. Losing it would destroy them. It does need a TON of renovations though; that’s a really good opening move for Theo. The only way you can replace it is by building a stadium that blows all the others away.
by Cardinals645 on Nov 5, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
my theory is still that Wrigley is the actual curse
infrastructure, day games, money pit, etc.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Losing is also their identity.
Its probably time for a new identity.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Losing is an obvious problem, but the ballpark doesn't have to be. Red Sox didn't have to leave Fenway.
They don’t have to change venues any more than they have to change uniforms or team name.
by Cardinals645 on Nov 5, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think its more the day game thing.
Still after 103 seasons I’d be doing everything to distance the team from a losing tradition.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
oh ...
and the HORRENDOUS general managing of Jim Hendry. That money probably should’ve been able to buy a winner by now.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 5, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
See, this is the real issue, I think.
And they were only 5 outs away from the series in Hendry’s first year. Imagine what a competent FO will do for them.
by Cardinals645 on Nov 5, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i think they are still about 2 years away
from being able to rid themselves of Hendry’s work.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 6, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I've read that many of the players like the day games.
And their attendance records for day and night are comparable. So why change?
I think it’s smart. It’s something unique and part of the “experience.” 37% of their attendance comes from tourists.
Still not a werewolf.
Agreed. The ballpark itself is a huge crowd draw.
It’s part of the identity of the Cubs. And while their winning percentage sucks, they have a monster fanbase which gives them plenty of revenue.
Still not a werewolf.
That's cheaper than making a whole new ballpark FFS
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 5, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe new Busch was built for about $344 million...
obviously a new Cubs park would have to be over the top, so no less than $600 million I’d imagine. A moot point since this would never be considered anyway.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 6, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
oh come on, sbn
i rebooted for you
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
its only handegg
but decisions (play calls) by alabama’s oc lost them that game in OT
TLR is gone, long live the king
It was awful.
And the game was awful.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
so. many. chicken mcnuggets.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
no, thirty piece for like 8 bucks
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 6, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
the one in my pants?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 6, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Heh. Jordan Swagerty did.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 6, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ednY9R6xlgE
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 6, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn it.
30 years lived, 0 earthquakes felt.
One of these days….
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 6, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to cut you into little pieces
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 6, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
heard more than felt in central mo
thought the house was settling or something. this is the second one i’ve felt this year. they sound a bit like a really strong wind hitting the house.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
World Series Champions 2011. Unbelievable. Tony LaRussa, you will be missed.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!
"You can't be friends with a squirrel! A squirrel is just a rat with a cuter outfit." - SJP
by zero sum gain on Nov 6, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Just a reminder. This was given away to fans after the 06 WS:
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 6, 2011 12:35 AM EDT reply actions
they are Cape Codders, of course
i do not remember any sandwiches, but i DO remember lots of miniature golf:
you played sandwich miniature golf.
this will not cease to be amazing to me for at least 20 minutes. What would sandwich miniature golf be like? Don’t tell me.
Still not a werewolf.
I too would be very motivated to golf well
if I were playing sandwich miniature golf.
Still not a werewolf.
Yore choice
or
"You can't be friends with a squirrel! A squirrel is just a rat with a cuter outfit." - SJP
by zero sum gain on Nov 6, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
omg that first one looks delicious
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Scabananut sandwiches!
I loved those as a kid. But it has to be on pasty white bread!
Gibson for Manager!
...what?
to all of that post, really.
peanut butter and bananas on homemade bread. Best sandwich ever.
grilled cheese is number two.
Still not a werewolf.
My other favorite sandwich as a kid
also on pasty white bread…mayonnaise and dill pickles.
Gibson for Manager!
At least I never had anyone spread jell-o and set the couch alight when I was around.
Gibson for Manager!
I can't get both on at the same time
have to log out and log back in with different account.
Gibson for Manager!
does your alter-ego account exist to troll me?
I create alter-ego accounts to troll myself. (not on VEB, though)
Still not a werewolf.
I haven't noticed too many sandwich enthusiasts.
There needs to be more.
Also, ice cream sandwiches! Sandwich #3.
Still not a werewolf.
Bill Cosby?
Is that you and your Monster Chicken heart?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 6, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm gonna stick my foot out
but don’t bite it. just give it a little snakey lick.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
What time is it?
“It’s 10 o’clock”
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 6, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
clank, not everyone is a giant radioactive monster scouting out new urban areas to trample
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
y'know, if they really scouted in advance
what if they used google earth
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what sort of interface
one phone per eyeball?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
nah, you gotta have whole wheat bread or something to cut the sweetness
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
clearly VEB needs to stay up to confirm this
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Incidentally how do you change that?
I changed time zones a while back but haven’t bothered to fix them on here cuz I don’t know how.
i know the little saying
but it always confuses me more than it helps me
i was thinking that, like, i was staying in place and time was “falling back” or shifting one hour back, but i guess time is staying in place and i am shifting backwards?
we roll standard style 24/7
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
No, where time goes you go.
Time falls back one hour — you go back one hour. So when time goes from 1 AM back to Midnight, you go there too. Thus, you get an extra hour.
In the spring, time will jump an hour forward, and you will go with it. You will be at midnight one second, and 1 AM the next.
I'm not real impressed by Abita overall
I do like their design and labeling though
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 6, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Abita Turbodog is one of my go-to beers
"You've got to have an attitude if your going to go far in this game." -- Bob Gibson
my faves are purple haze and turbo dog
I don’t get to try turbodog too often. none of my go-to places carry it, so the only time I can get it is at binny’s or other large liquor stores, where I usually go for stuff i haven’t tried yet because of the big selection
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 6, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Got to check out the Abita "brewery" in the early 90's
It was basically the guy’s garage outside NOLA. Had to buy Turbodog’s in a local NOLA store and haul them all the way back to Montgomery. They’ve sure come a long way.
"You've got to have an attitude if your going to go far in this game." -- Bob Gibson
i did a shift + a
what did i miss
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
surely you mean gibby45
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
this is kinky, right?
kinky
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Bob Forsch was super cool
and a bunch of old folks came out to say goodbye.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 6, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Jell-o spreading and couch alighting
a bunch of cool stuff about Forschie. Scabananut sandwiches, and The Continental going forward in time to score with chicks, thus becoming one of clank’s heroes, knocking CoCo Crisp off the list. You know, the usual.
Gibson for Manager!
ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm is now trolling me
Azru is the best at everything
Fister does surprising things
Everyone liked Forsch
Why would anyone trade a 2.5 WAR shortstop?
Albert is a free agent.
Also, sandwiches!!!
Still not a werewolf.
also, clank has very nice handwriting for a lefty
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
clank also found out to be devil
VEB is in the process of scheduling a purging.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
yeah, stop conflating lycanthropy with satanism
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you know what you did to that poor sandwich
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
you had me until
azru is the best at everything
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
yeah, what aren't you telling us IHB?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
oh you shortened it!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
i want to change my name so bad
but i don’t want to lose my sbn history
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Don't worry
this is just a troll account
to hassle clank.
Not really.
Yes, really.
But not.
Yes.
Gibson for Manager!
Oh, and you have to scroll up to see the Shannon & McCarver pic.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 6, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
heh, that is awesome!
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Kind of excited for tomorrow, you guys
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There was one I liked for $12. But you only really need one...
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I wish
But since you brought it up, went shopping at the Legends outlets today. Bought a nice purple argyle sweater, a Banana Republic peacoat for $50 (70% off!), some slippers, and a scarf!
Lookin’ fly yo
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my god how do you live with yourself?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Very fashionably, that's how!
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by mysterui on Nov 6, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
sounds like you are all set for your vagina-oplasty
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Nov 6, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
rui are you sure you wouldn't like a nice negro-plasty instead?
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of course I am
But after two limit pushers, I expected another following suit.
Still not a werewolf.
Ah, that makes sense.
Not that I actually thought you didn’t know the rules. Sorry for disappointing.
oh god
i imagine you wearing all of these things at the same time
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Well I mean, the slippers are the only part that wouldn't go with an ensemble
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i don't see anything wrong with your clothes
but how can you use words like “ensemble” seriously and still look in the mirror?
by prophetjohn on Nov 6, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
my jeans are getting too small
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That word was actually used ironically
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That's not bad.
I’m not a scarf guy though myself. On the other hand, I’ve only lived in SoCal and Houston so there’s really never been any need.
i'm watching game 7
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
allen craig is a beast
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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i'm watching Game 7
of 2006 NLCS. In 4th inning.
BTW, the only 2011 game being released on blu-ray is Game 5 of the NLDS and it will be bonus footage on WS highlight film. Will be interested to see what quality it is.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 6, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
i wish i had that one
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I recorded them
I’ve recorded every Cardinals game since Opening Day 2006 (sans some lost games due to PC crashes and being blacked out).
I have almost 1,000 Cardinals games on DVD.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 6, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
You have some great games, then. How often do you watch that final inning of the 2006 NLCS?
Still not a werewolf.
This is maybe the 2nd time I've ever busted out this DVD
One I used to watch all the time was Pujols’ Easter Day assault.
I actually started recording games in 2005 only recording like 3 or 4 regular season games on my PC. I then recorded the 2005 postseason, only to have my HDD crash. I actually still have the 2005 NLCS for the most part from that and watch Game 5 the most of any of my games.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 6, 2011 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you watch the whole game or just the 9th inning?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Game 5?
The whole thing. It’s such an epic game. TLR goes hero mode on Carp and Berkman hit’s a linedrive HR into the Crawford Boxes, which at the time was infuriating.
Carp was dealing until that point. For some reason, I think Berkman had actually done that to Carp earlier in the season in the same scenario.
I watch the Reggie Sanders game from 05 from time to time too.
I’m mad at myself for 2006 because I had the capability to record the 2006 Postseason in HD and didn’t even think to do it. Now I can’t find HD copies anywhere, just widescreen SD versions.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 6, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
i'll take your word for it
cuz all i remember from that game was albert’s homer. and thom brenneman. i miss thom brenneman. i prefer him and whoever else fox trotted out there to the TBS special squad in the NLCS.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Thom and actually a TBS broadcaster (and CSNChicago)
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 6, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
did brenly do the NLCS this year?
him i don’t mind. dick stockton and brian anderson and ron darling get on my nerves.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
The first thing I did after subscribing to mlb.tv was to rewatch 2010's opening game.
That was a great, fun game.
Still not a werewolf.
Game 6 is better
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i've already watched it twice
what i really want to watch is game 5 nlds
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
That was my favorite of the postseason
Halladay was insanely good that game.
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i haven't seen it since the original time i saw it.
but i was so anxious and fucked up i don’t know if can watch it again. i literally nursed one beer the entire game. i couldn’t even get up at the commercials.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
I smoked a doob before the game, so I wasn't too nervous
But the tension was still amazing. I think Halladay just realized after the first couple of batters that he was just way better than anyone else on the field and wasn’t going to give up anything. That curveball he had – 85 and an absolute hammer. But Carp’s stuff was nearly as good.
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we got super lucky. that's all i can say.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Carp had what, 3 strikeouts?
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Was the fact that Carp only struck out 3 people just kinda randomness?
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pitch to contact
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Carp always "pitches to contact" and routinely strikes out 6+
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was jok
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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by IHeartBoog on Nov 6, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're a joke
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so's your face
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
you mean you thought he should have strucken out more?
yeah probably some of it was randomness.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
German FTW
spracken ze deutsch?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions
i remember watching it live i felt like carp was dominating
but when i watched it again they hit soft grounders early in counts on a ton of fastballs pretty much down the middle. i mean he still threw a great game but yeah the phillies just couldn’t hit for shit
Watched that before this
it’s weird watching the game and then remembering what things looked like when seeing it live. Still believe that ball Pujols hit was a HR that actually circled the Earth. In the stadium it appeared to be hit to Wyoming.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 6, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish FOX had shown the HUGE OVATION
Freese got going out to play defense in the 10th. Nearly shook the stadium for a 4th time.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 6, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
my favorite is all the "yadi" chanting
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You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
I'm so jealous you were there
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it was really the greatest thing thats ever happened to me
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Were you more thankful to be at Game 6 or Game 7?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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that's really tough.
my instinct is game 6. but that’s because we won. i mean, if you look at it in a vacuum, game 6 was one of the best games in WS history. but if the cardinals don’t win game 7, then game 6 probably falls by the wayside. since i was 10 years old i have dreamed of watching the cardinals win the WS at home. so, if you look at game 6 and 7 as completely independent things, i pick game 7.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Command + Shift + 3 will take a screenshot of your entire screen
Command + Shift + 4 will let you make a selection
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Well yeah, now you gotta upload to imgur or something
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Testing.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 6, 2011 1:54 AM EDT reply actions
wait a minute
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Crap.
Well, THAT didn’t work.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 6, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Guess I'll have to open something else besides Chrome...
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 6, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
i hate when people take up your twitter feed with like 14 tweets in a row
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
if i had a dollar for everytime someone mentioned that yadi could hit "0" and still play every day because his defense is so good
…
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
You'd have like $7?
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Twitter
i bet i would have at least $16
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
it's a Tony line.
so everyone’s repeated it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah that's what i mean
i think i hear it like two dozen times during the season at least
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
.....you could buy out Boog's contract?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I haven't heard that one lately
not even from Tony. Yadi just had a career year. Highest OPS, wOBA, and wRC+ of his career. I don’t know how much we can expect from him next year, but long term, I like our chances with him on the team over any other catcher.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
5-2 STL
this is where i knew we would win
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
What are you watching?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
game 7 on my dvr
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
bought Game 6 on iTunes
every time i watch it, it just makes me want to watch Game 7. even though it was an afterthought.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
This is hilarious at 7:40. I dont even like Wilson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7JgMDHU8KuA
World Series Champions 2011. Unbelievable. Tony LaRussa, you will be missed.
happy saturday night VEB
have a rum and 7up for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTGoqle4m34
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
disregard that link.
bleh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPJM4czWkNw
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
or, if you'd rather,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FV2ILnnTa0&ob=av2e
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
so my buddy has played madden '12 non-stop for the last week
i just played it for the first time tonight. my packers just beat his broncos 24-14. and i’m a few drinks in. i feel strangely good about this.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
from this article
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2011/11/snub-tony-larussa-your-own-peril/44603/
not really relevant to anything, but the picture amused me
probably just a bullpen phone
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
still up
:P
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 6, 2011 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Was Tony's reaction to the final out
of World Series ever made into a .gif? If so, could someone plz link it…Thanks.
by DisplacedCardsFan on Nov 6, 2011 5:07 AM EDT reply actions
Do EEEEEEEEEEEET
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 6, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Engage
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 6, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
"Mr. LaForge, have you had any success with your attempts at finding a weakness in the Borg?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 6, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
If we reverse the polarity of the dilithium crystals we might be able to
disengage the borg tractor beam… If only we had a stuffed rabbit with which to distract them!
“but Mr. LaForge isn’t that likely to cause a massive power surge and destroy the Enterprise and where are we going to find a stuffed rabbit at this hour?”
“Damnit Jean! I’m an blind engineer with a magic vision thing! Not a Taxidermist”
Well, baseball was fun.
by Aranathor on Nov 6, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Very funny
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 6, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
If we reverse the polarity of the dilithium crystals we might be able to
disengage the borg tractor beam… If only we had a stuffed rabbit with which to distract them!
“but Mr. LaForge isn’t that likely to cause a massive power surge and destroy the Enterprise and where are we going to find a stuffed rabbit at this hour?”
“Damnit Jean! I’m an blind engineer with a magic vision thing! Not a Taxidermist”
Well, baseball was fun.
Very funny
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 6, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Photon, not proton.
"You can't be friends with a squirrel! A squirrel is just a rat with a cuter outfit." - SJP
by zero sum gain on Nov 6, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for posting this Tom
My memories and associations with those years are similar, and it was nice to have a last recap of Forsch. Nice work.
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