End of November, Chat
The Winter Meetings will be kicking off soon, and there should be movement a-plenty there this year. For now, though, things remain slow. It's always this way this time of year, but it feels a little different in 2011. Probably, I would imagine, simply because as Cardinal fans we haven't actually faced a momentous choice hanging in the balance like the one we currently have in a very long time. In fact, now that I think of it, I can't honestly recall the last time a major Cardinal player hit free agency during anything remotely resembling his prime productive years.
Albert is a little beyond prime, of course -- or well beyond it, if we believe what is apparently common knowledge amongst the teams of major league baseball -- but he's still the closest thing to a Cardinal star leaving in his prime I can remember. Neither of the other two legs of the MV3 left as free agents. The last big name pitcher to be on his way was Matt Morris, and he was a husk by the time he left town. I suppose Edgar Renteria would be the last major free agent to fly the coop, and while Edgar was a very nice player, he obviously didn't have quite the same juice as Albert Pujols.
The point being, not only is this an odd offseason in general, with two enormously high-powered free agents on the market, neither of which is drawing the sort of interest you would ordinarily expect, but for Cardinal fans specifically it's very unusual for us to be in a waiting situation like this. Sure, everything is lining up nicely for Albert to return to the Redbirds -- and likely for a much more reasonable deal than most of us expected, it seems -- but that is no sort of sure thing. Honestly, I'm not sure I like this version of the waiting game all that much. Following tweets by local disc jockeys I thought had retired like ten years ago because said disc jockey knows where Albert Pujols is going on vacation just isn't all that enjoyable.
The big news of the day is the hiring of Bobby Valentine by the Boston Red Sox. Of course, the immediate reaction from the various media types has been to line up for more of that embarrassingly eager fellatio we've talked about before. Why do I get the feeling the Red Sox could literally have gone out and hired a shift manager from the McDonald's down the street from Fenway and we would have heard the same sort of fawning? Something about his people skills and previous experience with fast food. (It's a chicken joke, people. Come on!) Whoever the Red Sox hired was, I'm sure, going to be exactly the right hire and exactly what that franchise needed. Oh, well.
From my perspective, the hiring is pure win. Not for the Red Sox, necessarily, but for the rest of use who no longer have to listen to Valentine's moronic analysis about what makes players and teams successful. (Spoiler alert: it's magic.) Less Bobby V. in the booth makes Aaron a very happy boy indeed. Now, if we could only get some foolish team out there to hire Horton and Hrabosky to fill a pitching/bullpen coach tandem I might be able to watch a baseball game with the sound on for the first time in years.
I'll be here until about one o' the clock. We'll be holding a chat until then, with me playing the role of Joe Strauss. I hear you're all jerkbags. Developing...
The Baron's Playlist for the 30th of November, 2011
"Personality Crisis" - New York Dolls
"Subway Train" - New York Dolls
"Marquee Moon" - Television
"Guiding Light" - Television
"Recharge and Revolt" - the Raveonettes
"Summer Moon" - the Raveonettes
"Cannons" - Youth Lagoon
"Montana" - Youth Lagoon
"Punk Rock Girl" - The Dead Milkmen (this one appears here, alone, as the one inclusion I absolutely regret not making to my 40 favourite songs ever list. I fell in love with this song at nine years old, hearing it on my older cooler cousin's shitty boombox while he and his friends talked about breasts and tried to figure out how to roll a joint so it would stay together, and part of me will always be nine years old and shouting out lyrics that didn't really make much sense to me at the time whenever I listen to this one.)
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Goold vaguely reporting that the Cards are vaguely thinking about Rollins.
I don’t buy it (also: please no). I do buy this:
If we had to wake up and give Tyler Greene an opportunity (at shortstop) we would be comfortable with that.
See below.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Ick.
No Rollins, please. I’d be more comfortable giving Henry Rollins a contract right now than I would Jimmy Rollins.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
His intensity would make him a great reliever
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 30, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Not enough facial hair.
Funnier than Brian Wilson, though, and similar amount of ink.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
there is some relationship between what jmo said and the truth
but i don’t know what it is
TLR is gone, long live the king
"For the last time, we are NOT going to trade Colby"
Hi corey
by hr on Nov 30, 2011 1:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It might not make sense from a baseball standpoint
to sign Rollins but, should the Cards lose Albert, I think there will be pressure from a public relations standpoint to do something more than announce that Berkman is our starter at 1B and Craig in RF. The area of the lineup most in need of an upgrade is middle infield so management may feel compelled to throw money that direction … even if the cost will be well above the marginal value added to the team. Rollins might get a windfall out of it. Though I’ll puke if we give Furcal a multiyear deal.
that is exactly the kind of pressure that a good GM
will ignore, and I think Mo would do exactly that.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
Yup
I think that kind of pressure tends to be short-lived. In a similar vein, a lot was made early in 2011 about how Pujols’ lack of signing was definitely going to be a “distraction”, which negated his rationale for not negotiating during the season (i.e., in order to avoid distractions). Once the season got rolling the contract talk really fell off and the people who insisted it would be distracting were proven wrong.
If a GM makes moves to placate rabble-rousing stuff like that, it could really bite him in the ass. If he ignored it and makes sound baseball moves and the product is better because of it, that will take precedence.
Just say no to 33-year-old shortstops
that said, J-Roll’s actually been a pretty good and consistent player in recent years. I’d be happier signing him to a 3-year, $45m deal or something than giving Reyes megabucks.
But neither of those would be ideal, really.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 30, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
I would much rather have Furc to a one or two year for less
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather we just give Greene the shot he deserves.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
I can deal with that but if he does well, but then what if he doesn't do better than past effort?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
The FA options are not very good in the middle infield.
Furcal, Rollins in greater decline that APU. Dodgers snagged Adam Kennedy already for second. I guess Miles is out there. . . .for whoever signs TLR as resident genius
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Some truth to that, but Reyes makes much more sense than Rollins in that scenario.
And I think it’d be more about simply having the extra money available than the PR.
Meh.
If Pujols leaves I could see the team moving on to Jose Reyes as a centerpiece sort of player to spend their windfall on, but I don’t see Rollins in that same sort of light. And, honestly, if you aren’t going big in this case I don’t think the PR hit is going to be huge, considering you’re coming off a championship.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think Reyes' injuries more of less make him a dreadful candidate for meg BUX
and multiple years.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Jimmy Rollins makes no sense in any scenario
If we lose Pujols, then signing Jose Reyes for half the money and half the years makes a ton of sense. In fact, were it not for the franchise’s attachment to Pujols, signing Jose Reyes might make a ton more sense than signing Albert Pujols if looked at from an organizational perspective. We have a good number of players to fill the void of Pujols already on the roster (Craig, Berkman) or in the minors (Adams, Hamilton, less so) but nobody even close to what Reyes would provide us at SS.
It would also decrease the long term risk for the club, give us the lead off hitter that we haven’t had since Brock, and possibly cement our middle infield for the next half decade if Kolton Wong progresses through the system quickly.
Rollins, due to age, cost, and declining ability, does none of those things. Couple that with the fact that Philly seems to enjoy overpaying average hometown players, he would be a terrible move.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Reyes might not still be on the market when
Pujols signs finally elsewhere. But agree I prefer Reyes over Rollins if the Cards decide to throw silly money at a middle infielder after an Albert departure.
I'm guessing Rollins gets 3 years max, unless Amaro offers him something stupid (which is highly likely, I guess)
whereas I guess Reyes gets 6.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 30, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure that Reyes represents such a good candidate for long-term contract.
How many games has he missed in recent seasons? What’s the tea-leaf forecast for Jackson?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Reyes missed a bunch of time in '09
But he’s had almost 600 PA’s in every other season in the last 6 years.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I'm not sure we're quite as fickle as Philly phans. or as gullible.
fickle for values of “we throw crap at you”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I didn't want to push it
I don’t have the hilarribleness points that you have, mr. bobo
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
probably closer to
my debt to veb
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This morning, Mike & Mike suggested that Bobby V do his first press conference with a beer and a bucket of chicken in hand...
and then they spent time discussing about how meaningful such a gesture would be. They also said
if 10 people were looking at a painting, 9 would see one thing and Bobby Valentine would see something completely different. And that would be much more interesting than what the others are seeing…
I’m guessing that means that he would see a potential disguise?
I’m so happy that the Red Sox hired him!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah, I was actually listening to that too.
It made me a little nauseous, to be honest. I know he’s a former colleague and all, but ugh. Is it tough to do a radio show with your mouth so full, guys?
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
He's big in Japan.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
in stature and by comparison
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
So is natto! (rotten, slimy soy beans)
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I'm kind of intrigued by natto and I think I would try it if given the opportunity
It does look really weird though.
If you can't find any in the market, go to Cahokia Downs and sop up some of the . .
the drippings and droppings from the stables. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
It's not that bad.
just don’t breathe. I’ve never been fond of the fermented beans that show up in Asian cuisine.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Nov 30, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
there's a lot of yummy things
which get crossed off because of texture or smell. as an adult i’m too hungry to care.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 30, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
i wouldn't call natto yummy
just … edible.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Nov 30, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
tempeh and natto are the only two wholly plant based foods i can think of that i refuse to eat.
by tehzachatak on Nov 30, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
that aren't hyper processed, anyway
i won’t eat fake meat either (unless you consider surimi fake meat)
by tehzachatak on Nov 30, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, actually I am. Lots of confections here with that as a base. . .
Taxis, the subway and hotel often have signs banning such, however.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
You can generally get surimi where you also get gyros, yes?
Love gyros. Love, love, love it. With tzatziki sauce, yum. And falafel balls, with tzatziki sauce. Or falafel balls in my gyros, with tzatziki sauce. I love, love, Love saying tzatziki.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 1, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
Jerusalem Cafe on the DU Campus has Falefel until 4AM
full menu actually, and really amazing Schwarma. I always pronounce that word Zaht-zeekie is that correct?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
well, i typically eat surimi either in my own home, or in asian restaurants
i’m talking crab stick/fish cake here.
Nattoshiba
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Gonna blame SBN for this...
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
According to Kurkjian today, he's all things to all people.
It was one of the Timmiest columns ever.
He's the Marcel Duchamp of managing.
He once went to the mound, did nothing, then told reporters after the game he had, in fact, made a pitching change, because he said it was a pitching change.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
And then Magritte called him out on his bullshit
“Ceci n’est pas une changement de pitching.”
by mattybobo on Nov 30, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Why does all snotty French remind me of an Eddy Izzard show?
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell does that even mean?
I think he’s a pretty good manager, but a lot of the stuff that he does (especially the way he uses his first baseman to hold runners, which is the definition of a balk, imo) really rubs me the wrong way.
I think he’ll be good in Boston as long as they’re winning. If they’re losing, especially to the Yankees, he’s going to get run out of town in a hurry, because he’s a inflammatory as Ozzie Guillen when being questioned.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
He's magic!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
The hiring of Valentine
Makes Boston’s new GM a puppet. Valentine’s friends with Lucchino, the team’s prez, and it was Lucchino who made this call to hire him as no young GM starting out would want to deal with a manipulative manager in addition to a manipulative front office. Valentine will be involved in personnel decisions, and he has Lucchino’s ear and this combination will pretty much bypass the GM completely. It will be sort of like the Mo/Larussa dynamic if Larussa’s twin brother was the Cards’ team president.
by olddomination on Nov 30, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I am so much for this
and he won’t be on ESPN anymore until he’s DFA’d
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
I think he won the job when he screamed DON'T PANIC and SportsCenter ran it every hour
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
FESPN...
Some players not happy with Valentine’s hire.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Send them to Toronto for Rasmus, Miller and Tallet
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
How are the waves Big Kahuna??
Sorry, I had to.
Anyways, what are your feelings towards Furcal? Bring him back? Let him walk? Should he start vs. platoon? Will his skills (and health) begin (and continue) to erode (further)?
I don't honestly recall. Something about tsunamis.
With Furcal, it all depends on the contract. (Kind of a crap answer, I know, but that’s the best I can do.) If he’ll come back on a one- or two- year deal — preferably a one-year with an option would be ideal — then I’m okay with that. If he’s really going to be able to get a three-year contract from some team out there then I wouldn’t match it in an attempt to keep him around. I liked watching him, but the risks make him strictly a low-cost guy for me.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Furcal is purely a question of cost imo
anything over, say, 2/12 and I think we’d have to pass. And the way the market is trending, it looks like he’ll command more than that.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
We're one of the 13 smallest markets and Uncle Bud wants to help us...
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111130&content_id=26059392
This is a nice surprise.
Sign Roy O
That whole system just seems monstrously stupid to me.
We want extra picks for the smaller market teams, so we’re holding a lottery, but we also want to limit the amount teams are spending on the draft, because the problem with baseball isn’t middling relievers getting three year deals but the pittance (relatively speaking), teams spend on amateur talent acquisition. It’s moronic. If the small market teams weren’t so effing stupid, they would spend like crazy on the draft and ascend to glory on the absurd rate of return from the few draftees who become productive major leaguers.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe the owners...
foresaw a day when the big market teams used their resources to vacuum up all available amateur talent. Draft spending clearly isn’t a problem now, but who really understands the thought-process of Uncle Bud?
All I know is that next July we might get a free pick which we can turn around and flip for Clint Barmes after TGreene proves for the fifth time that he isn’t a major league shortstop.
Sign Roy O
It's possible that's the thought process.
If so, it’s still stupid. Regardless of how much you’re willing to spend, it’s still a draft. There is still an order that has to be followed. Now, the international market I can see, but worrying about the draft somehow being taken over by the big money teams is just asinine. Limiting the amount of money teams can spend will actually have a chilling effect and hurt competitive balance more than it helps, mark my words.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Greene has 300-some big league PA, proving exactly nothing.
And he sort of murdered AAA last year (in 300 PA, but shut up). I think there’s a good chance he’d be acceptable.
You're not going to win this argument.
You should really just back away now.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Well, if it's your first Tyler argument, then go ahead.
It is kind of fun at first.
Oh, to be young again…
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Sadly, no.
High socks, aka the correct way to wear a baseball uniform, is unfortunately almost completely absent from the St. Louis Cardinals. It’s the only reason I can think of to bring back Octavio Dotel, in fact.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
were all our rookies broken?
or did they just think the sport coats meme was cooler?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Springfield just this last season
ended their requirement socks be worn high. I liked it better that way.
I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.
They could've given him all of August and September to help settle the question of whether he can do it in the majors...
instead the team was hijacked by a win-now manager with one foot out the door.
Free Tyler!
Sign Roy O
And not only would we have had a better understanding of TG
We wouldn’t have wasted so much time watching baseball in October
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I have this strange feeling that playing Theriot over Greene did not have an effect on us winning the World Series
I don’t where that comes from, I must be going crazy!
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
In an alternate universe, MO has a goatee
and forced Tony La Russa to play Greene. We never won the World Series (the Brewers did, natch) and then China invaded. John Mozeliak betrayed America by telling them about a secret pass through the mountains.
by mattybobo on Nov 30, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
China's already here
it’s the Brazilians you gotta watch out for
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
With all of that plastic surgery they will soon be as good looking as us!
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Charles Dickens can dance the samba?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Um
Either “did” or “zombie Charles Dickens”.
I’m pretty sure he’s did. And he should have been offed by literary critics long ago.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 30, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
the Chinese or the Brazilians?
i’m pretty sure the Brazilians are all natural…
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I have learned something, now
now to find some way to apply this knowledge.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
A grad student I worked with at Wash U who is Argentine
told me horror stories about girls getting boob jobs for their sixteenth birthday and stuff. Ew.
but that happens here....
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm sure it does, but she alleged that it was much more common in certain South American countries
It could all be some sort of perception bias.
Of the ice-bathtub-kidney-stealing kind.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Hey
You weren’t supposed to mention that secret pass
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
You mean like Branch Rickey did to start the Cardinals minor league affiliations?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
If the small market teams weren’t so effing stupid, they would spend like crazy on the draft and ascend to glory on the absurd rate of return from the few draftees who become productive major leaguers.
Boston have pretty much done this the last two years, as if they need the help.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 30, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
worked well for Theo. . . .Exiled to Cubistic hell. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Ah, Cubistic Hell.
Georges Braque, no? Or was it perhaps Picasso?
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Dec 1, 2011 2:29 AM EST up reply actions
I don't see this system working well at all.
It might actually hurt the smaller teams as the larger markets will exploit it.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
does anyone know when the winter meetings actually start?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
The fifth through eighth of December, milady.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
sunny and almost 60 here in Boston
was mid-60s yesterday. I’m in disbelief.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
I understand about the equinoxes and solstices
However, I always thought the seasons were all off by 3-4 weeks. As far as I’m concerned, summer starts Memorial Day weekend. Autumn commences Labor Day weekend. Winter starts right after Thanksgiving. Spring, of course, starts when pitchers and catchers report – usually around Feb 18.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Well, a lot of it depends on your position in the hemisphere
But I believe meteorological winter, such that it is an actual thing, is more or less agreed to start at the beginning of December. Obviously you will have to regress this to the hemispherical average…
I refuse to have my seasons dictated to me by druids.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
hey i have friends who are druish
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
gracias. can't wait.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
hey, chatmeister, professional advice
i’ve negotiated a 36% increase in the starting pay for this spring internship and i don’t know if i should just accept it or keep pushing. granted, it’s still a bit lower than the massive corporations like intel offer, but it’s also a relatively small company, so it’s possible they’re giving me their best offer. this is definitely the company i’m going to work for this spring, though and they have intangibles, like gold gloves, that make them more appealing a destination for an internship than just money. s’why i’m trying to avoid the behemoths of the industry. what do?
~stacy in las vegas
Hmm.
I would take one more crack at more money, then accept regardless of the offer. If they toss you a bit more change you’re a shrew negotiator and get the job you wanted with extra cash, and if they refuse to go higher you look both shrewd and classy for playing it the way you did and then not making a fuss when negotiations hit their end.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
if you've made up your mind to work for them
36% seems like a good deal and enough to accept. Obviously, getting the most money possible has its benefits, but also some disadvantages. Namely, if you keep pushing, it could make them resent you a little bit, which could be contrary to your long-term interest in getting a permanent position there (if that’s what you want)
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
probably not the company i want to work for long term
but i went ahead and accepted. i didn’t actually have any leverage, in the first place, really. but the rate they’re offering is good enough as far as i’m concerned
by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Accept it
assuming, of course, that you’ve actually had any blowback at all in the negotiating process. If you walked in and asked for 36% and they just gave it to you? Well, you should probably accept it now, but you probably cost yourself some money.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i'm not sure what you mean by blowback
i didn’t even ask for a specific rate. when the offer was made, i told her that i was interviewing at other companies and she was like “oh make sure we get a chance to counter other offers!” so eventually i was just like “come on. seriously. you can do better.” in so many words. and she came back a couple days later with what i ended up accepting.
i may have been able to get another dollar or so an hour, but i decided it wasn’t the point of what i was trying to get out of the internship and not having any other offers i was as interested in seemed too risky
by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
When I mean blowback,
I mean a bunch of hemming and hawing and stalling about moving the salary up 36%. If there’s been none of that, then you underpriced yourself in the first place, but that doesn’t seem like that’s what happened.
Or, they could just really want you to work at their company. That does happen occasionally, and it puts you in a really good position.
Just don’t let them lowball you on the offer for a permanent position due to them being “generous” with your internship compensation.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I was really hoping this was some elaborate metaphor for the Albert Pujols situation
Even the numbers kind of work out. He used to make about 16 million a year. 36% of 16 is 5.76. Add that to his original salary and you get 21.76 million per year, for nine years that’s almost 196 million.
That happened to me as well. I still haven’t been charged yet for my purchases.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Nov 30, 2011 1:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I cant imagine wearing the in yhe dead of summer
Now I have to decide if I’m going to actually wear it.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Nov 30, 2011 1:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
also, change your avatar, Lozano
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Love the playlist
Nice playlist! I vaguely remember seeing the Milkmen at Miss Nights in the late 1980’s and slam-dancing to “Punk Rock Girl” with a real-live (hot) punk rock girl from Alton….then she puked on my shoes.
Good times.
Go Cards!
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+++St Louis Blues. St. Louis Cardinals. Denver Broncos+++
Also University of Denver Hockey and Lacrosse, Colorado Mammoth and Colorado Outlaws Lacrosse. Also watch a little EPL and MLS on occasion....
by HockeyHippie on Nov 30, 2011 1:22 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Any story that ends with,
“and then she puked on my shoes,” automatically get the Baron Seal of Approval.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Punk Rock shows rule
I remember waltzing through a mosh pit with some random girl to the song Death Valley Queen at a Flogging Molly, Street Dogs, and The Briggs show in 2002. After the song was over she slapped me then kissed me pretty soundly, punk rock girls are fun.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
oh yeah 1-2-3 1-2-3
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
LaRussa is sure going to regret retiring with the new CBA
Teams are going to be allowed to expand to a 26-man roster for day-night doubleheaders
he still would have found a way to be out of pitchers and bench bats by the bottom of the 10th
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Of the first game.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
his game 2 starter would have 4 PA by the end of game one
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
This is another big tidbit from the new CBA
III-a-3. Article XX(B) free agents signing minor league contracts who are not added to the Opening Day roster or unconditionally released 5 days prior to Opening Day shall receive an additional $100,000 retention bonus and the right to opt out on June 1.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 30, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure how that's a big deal.
Aren’t those just the free agents with enough service time to get out of club control? How many guys with 6+ years of MLB time actually get signed to minor-league deals every year? It seems like just a few.
First question of course would be do you think Pujols signs with Cardinals?
If yes, does he sign before or after Christmas? I really think he’ll drag this thing out until the Cardinals bite as long as no serious other offers arrive.
(So my answer is after)
will do ANYTHING for a rec
fang has started tweeting again, so i no longer care when he signs
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really? i was obviously hoping for pujols to drag this thing out until spring training
weren’t we all?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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damnit fritz
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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#suckstosuck
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
i hate it when a good dig goes unnoticed.
le sigh
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cute...
and seriously, did no one notice i was silent for A WHOLE FUCKING TEN DAYS?!
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Best 10 days of my life
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Nov 30, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
apparently people like my incessant tweeting and "pleasant" commentary.
okay…
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I do think he ends up back here.
The market this year is just brutal. He and Fielder both may have picked the absolute worst offseason to become free agents I can ever remember.
As for how soon, I think it probably gets done (or announced), at the Winter Meetings. Maybe after, but I think Pujols has a pretty good idea of just how little interest there really is out there by now. Maybe that’s the wrong way to say it. Not a lack of interest, but a definite lack of realistic landing spots.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Off the wall
But might Pujols accept arbitration with the thought that the market might be much more vigorous a year from now ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Why would the market be better next year?
If anything, it might be worse for him since Fielder will likely be on a multi year deal with one of the suitors for him, and Kendry Morales might put up numbers like he did in the first half of 2010 for the Angels. I’m not sure who gets added to the mix that isn’t in it currently this season.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
For starters
Dodger ownership situation gets resolved. Rangers sour on Moreland. Mets decide to spend big. Howard’s injury is career ending (doubtful I know) . Marlins flush with revenue after first year in new stadium. Cubs improve in 2012 and decide to make a push. Pujols rebounds from down 2011. Overall economy improves.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Counter-point:
- Rangers move Napoli to 1B.
- Mets decide Ike Davis is a pretty fucking good player.
- Philly can’t afford to pay Howard $25M a year to do nothing AND pay Albert Pujols.
Not only that, he’s a year older, which might shave two full years off the length of the deal that he gets. He might have a bad injury, such as his elbow blowing up, in which case he gets nothing. If you’re Albert Pujols and you can get a guaranteed deal worth $200M RIGHT NOW, you’d be foolish to risk all of that in an effort to hopefully get a similar, yet shorter, deal next year.
If you’re Prince Fielder, this might make more sense. But it makes zero sense for Albert.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
But a year ago Albert passed up a chance to get 200M guaranteed and accepted injury risk.
He might be willing to do it again. Sure the facts and circumstances are different in free agency vs a contract extension, but it was well known a year ago the market would be depressed as NYY, Red Sox and Phils would not be players for AP now.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
FWIW
I thought that was stupid too.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 30, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, but last year at that time
the market looked to be better than it is right now. He also wasn’t coming off his worst season either.
I thought it was silly to turn it down then, but free agency does funny things to people. Now that he’s tested the market, he’d be REALLY STUPID to turn down a $200M deal.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
real answer
cards purported offer is ridiculous
it makes little sense to the cards, and less to others
the only comparable commitment is arod
and how is that working out?
and he was not 32 and declining year after year after year
TLR is gone, long live the king
I don't think so, no.
It isn’t as if he’s going to get nothing. He’s just not going to get the historic contract he wanted. And I’m not sure 2012 will be enough to get him that historic deal.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think the risk of injury and regression prec ludes this, but if there are no better bidders or bettors . . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I wonder if anyone ever considered sending Descalso to winter ball and teaching him to play short….he has the cannon but dont know about the range ….maybe as good a plan as Green
Then who plays 2B?
I think Descalso is our starting 2B at the moment. Moving him to short just opens up yet another hole in the MIF.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 30, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
For me or for the rest of the world?
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
For me -- prostitutes. Lots and lots of prostitutes.
For the world — prostitutes. Lots and lots of prostitutes.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
You know eastern europe in the mid-90s was your place to be
the average family income was around $20 a month in Ukraine and all of our best looking models and tennis players come form there, looks like you missed your window buddy.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Czech Republic? Georgia? Moldova? Latvia?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Going rate in Bangkok is about $30 . . .
may go down after the floods. Fewer tourists and more hostesses out of work. Many of the bar girls hold down retail and hotel jobs that pay around $100 a month, so they moonlight in the twilight. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
In Soviet Russia, prostitutes pay you!
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
this has got to be one of the strangest places
i’ve seen a christmas wishlist go.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Nov 30, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
funny this is third year in a row
I have had almost this exact same conversation.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I have beaten you!
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
In my experience the peoples who live between two dominant cultures
have the highest occurence of stunning looking people.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
all the ugly ones are in a cellar somewhere, that's why.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
And then are still feel sad.
And is cold.
by mattybobo on Nov 30, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Premise ridiculous
Who have two potato?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
yeah....my bad.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
also a lot more expensive
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Also I went to a Ukrainian church for a year when I was a teenager
I have never seen so many insanely hot young women, or scary ugly old ones… and there didn’t appear to be much of a middle stage.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Odd that way, isn't it?
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I know.
It is very, how you say, sad.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
If you aren't watching the show "Gigolos" on Showtime, you really should
That goes for everyone else here too. Best unintentional comedy show on TV right now.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
but then we'd all be prostitutes
the economy might slide to a halt…….. or become the dream sex-communist society that clearly every nation-founder was actually going for.
new meaning to ‘manifesto’.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ben Franklin would be happy to see you thinking this way.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
his was a French dream, though.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and "mandate".
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 30, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Love this word. Always reminds me of this:
“Supreme executive power derives from a “mandate” from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!"
“Be quiet!”
“Oh but you can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!”
“Shut up!”
“Oh but if I went ‘round sayin’ I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away!”
“SHUT UP! WILL YOU SHUT UP!”
“Ah! Now we see the violence inherent in the system!”
“SHUT UP!”
“Oh, come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I’m being repressed!”
“Bloody peasant!”
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
unless you're in, like, any other country in the wolrd
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
the age of 18 isn't the age of consent in a lot of states.
if i remember right, 16 is most common.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
in states, really? i thought it was a federal law, or at least a federal mandate.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
They do it with alchohol
I know that for sure. They can’t force the states to have it at 21, but they withhold highway funds or something if the state doesn’t comply.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
I think alcohol is state
Federal just took highway funds away from non-21 states
"He probably misses his old glasses."
that's what I said
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
I guess that's not constitually regulating it, but it's functionally regulating it
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
you've stumbled on one of the great legal debates in history.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Yeah, but that was a very close call constitutionally.
The link between alcohol consumption and highway dollars (drunk driving) is pretty tenuous, but reasonable enough that the Court allowed it.
Not sure what the argument for age of consent would be, or what dollars it’d be linked to, etc.
Also yay, remembering con law.
there have been no supreme court cases
over the national minimum drinking age act, unless i am completely misremembering.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Wait is alchohol state or federal?
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
The laws directly regulating age of consumption are state.
The federal government doesn’t have power to regulate it directly. It regulates it indirectly by conditioning the grant of federal funds on states having laws it likes, which it’s allowed to do under the spending power.
gotcha, that's what I thought
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I think there should have a clause in there
“following common sense of what the original document was trying to do”
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
another epic and historical debate
vep are you trolling all the lawyers on here?
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on this one i was
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, there's no other way to do it though.
Thing is old as shit, almost impossible to update, and it doesn’t say what to do.
I think that statement’s politically agnostic enough to pass muster here, but yeah, probably a good place to leave off.
correct. which is why when arizona finally caved from .10 BAC to .08 BAC
every road in the damn state was under construction for the next five years
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it's up to the states,
but any state with a drinking age <21 loses a portion of its federal highway monies.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
nope.
i believe the fact that so many people think it’s 18 is due to pornography. i assume some states do, in fact, have 18 as the age of consent and in order to comply with that the companies that make pornography ask you if you are older than the lowest age that is above the age of consent in all fifty states (18).
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Federal law can regulate the production of pornography, since it's sold across state lines.
So I assume that’s where that comes from.
yeah.
pornography is actually really interesting from a legal perspective. most of it is made in california due to a court case decided in california protecting it as free speech.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
yeah pornography/obscenity law is really interesting.
my Con Law professor has some great stories of supreme court justices sitting around watching “lewd” movies, trying to determine if it was “obscene”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
from which comes the awesome quote:
“i’ll know it when i see it”. not the most rigorous test ever devised.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
At least it's honest, though.
The smell test is too rarely acknowledged in jurisprudence, even though it’s used all the fucking time.
a lot of states have laws that 16 is consent
but there are additional laws saying that you have to be within 2-3 years of the consenting parties, as well as laws about position of trust ect.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I love the position of trust.
I hate laws that limit it.
Either way, it is very complicated and you have to be very flexible.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Hmm.
Liking where this conversation is going….Complicated and very flexible. Mmm-mm.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
I wish Adam Wainwright a Pujolsian recovery.
I wish the Kardashians would all just go away. (I’ve never seen their show, but the mere fact it’s always there on the channel guide when I’m flipping through pisses me off to no end.)
I wish they would make more episodes of Durarara.
I wish coaches would stop raping children.
I wish Bioshock Infinite would actually turn out to be as brilliant as it looks.
I wish I didn’t have a cold.
I wish everyone had someone to share their bed with.
I wish I was a little bit taller.
I wish email didn’t exist, solely for the number of postal jobs it would create.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
without email, gdm might already be employed
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
...
I wish email didn’t exist, solely for the number of postal jobs it would create.
I totally made this argument in one of my Writing 122 essays this year! Teacher said it was only an example. Bitch.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck that!
They’re infringing on your civil rights!
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
holy crap, 122 essays in one semester
seriously, what a bitch
by hr on Nov 30, 2011 2:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, but they were all 5 sentence essays
and we had to combine them all at the end of the year.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
do subjunctive better.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
note: that's the last time i'm going to say "do subjunctive better"
it’s run its course.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
it was dead before the race even started man
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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yeah i knew a comment like this was coming.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm. Durarara characters
(i won’t do the exclamation points)
M,F,K?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Most bizarre subthread ever.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Hm...a question.
Are British actors just better than Americans or are British shows just more likely to hire less good-looking actors who are good at acting?
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
i don't understand the question
but i think the answer is that american people are generally better looking than british people
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Actually isn't there just a larger group of Americans from which to draw your people,
meaning you will have a larger selection of good-looking people?
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
by that logic, wouldn't america also have better actors then?
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And yet we are subjected to people like Whitney Cummings.
The point is that British shows are better acted, despite the difference in population.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Who is Whitney Cummings?
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
The Zooey Deschanel bizarro.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Zooey is pretty bizarro in her own right.
And as someone who really likes her as an actress (not as a singer), that’s pretty insulting.
Whitney would have been better off scrapping her show and taking the Kat Dennings role on Two Broke Girls, the other pilot she developed. I think she’s funny as a stand up, but that show is WAY to “Friends”-y to be appealing.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Personally, I hate Zooey Deschanel.
“Oooh, I’m not blond, and I make stupid facial expressions, therefore I am a good actress.”
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
by hazel on Nov 30, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I dunno -- 500 Days of Summer was really good
And she was really good in Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.
I like her — I just don’t really enjoy her quirky choices.
I also find her really hot, so I’m sure that adds some rose color to my glasses.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Yes Man was pretty good
If she wasn’t hot, I would find her insufferable though.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think I would find her insufferable even though she's hot.
Yet, still strangely find her attractive.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
because she's hot
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I personally don't see why everything thinks she's so gorgeous
By Hollywood standards, she seems pretty ho-hum.
But the pale white skin, dark-hair look just isn’t my thing, so I guess that’s really the actual explanation.
Half the girls in Portland are better looking than her.
So, I agree with you.
by mattisnotfrench on Dec 1, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
wait for it...
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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If that's the case, he needs to see a doctor.
It’s been more than four hours.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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have you seen new girl though?
i don’t really care about her, but that show is really funny
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no, it isn't
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
yes, it is.
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IT'S NOT MY WAR!
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it's really dumb
all of the characters are retarded. the jokes are only funny in “wow, that’s a really bad joke” kind of way.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
note, i've only watched like 4 episodes
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Often comedy is subjective but in this case you are just wrong.
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by ClemsonGirl on Nov 30, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't mind New Girl
but then again I’ve never laughed when watching the Big Bang Theory, so I don’t know what that says about me.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
That show isn't super funny so that's okay.
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I guess I don't get it
Whenever my parents call they tell me how funny it is, so i decided to watch a bunch of episodes, and I think I chuckled once
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
I could've written that same comment..
my parents love the Big Bang Theory. I just don’t get it.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
But it is
What’s even more funny is that 3 of my friends have no idea that they are Sheldon.
“But we don’t argue about physics for an hour.”
“All I have to do is ask 1 question about a linux kernel and walk away…..”
It would be funnier if you knew people like the characters I think.
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so it would be like a sitcom about VEB.
gotcha.
would've.
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i like that show. but it doesn't really make me laugh
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I enjoy it fine.
But I don’t think of it as being laugh out loud funny.
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The Big Bang Theory is terrible.
I do not understand its popularity in any way.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Nov 30, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
just to clear up any confusion
new girl and TBBT are two completely different shows
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did you see the thanksgiving episode?
i have laughed out loud at that show more than any other this season. except maybe parks & rec
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That was the episode that got me...
I thought it was a lot better than Whitney, but not much… and then I laughed a good 8 times during the Thanksgiving episode, and I conceeded that I liked it.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
It's a genius show.
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New Girl
“Who’s playing?”
“The Lions.”
“Ah, yes. The mighty, mighty Lions of Des Moines who play every Thanksgiving because theirs is the fiercest of the mascots.”
Sure, I’m from Des Moines, but that’s funny.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That was hilarious.
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The previews for that show make it look bloody moronic.
And I literally can’t stand anything about Deschanel. That may be unfair, but on the other hand, Zooey Deschanel sucks, so unfair my balls
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I think this stems from the fact that
British TV is developed for more of a niche market, much like cable TV is developed in this country. So they’re more likely to let the content developers run with an idea rather then giving copious amounts of “notes” in an attempt to get the show to appeal to the mainstream.
FWIW, without Chuck Lorre, does Big Bang Theory ever get highlighted? It’s the polar opposite of any type of show any studio exec would greenlight, as the premise of “nerds acting like nerds + one hot chick” isn’t really mainstream.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
...
as the premise of "nerds acting like nerds + one hot chick" isn’t really mainstream.
No that’s pretty mainstream I think. Nerdy is cool now apparently.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Name another show remotely like that one on television.
Now look at the number of cop dramas (CSI: Everywhere, NCIS: Everywhere, Castle, etc.) and traditional sitcoms (Mike and Molly, HIMYM, etc.) that are on TV.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
two guys a girl and a pizza place
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Friends
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Ugly Betty?
This is a guess. I’ve never watched the show.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 30, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Lasted two seasons. Brilliant, but had no life on network TV.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
almost every show is trying to recreate friends
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Which is stupid...
because Friends just re-created Cheers outside of the bar.
Why do we have to re-create shows that can’t even spin themselves off? Why can’t we just move forward with new ideas? Hell, we even rip off ideas from other places (The Office) instead of coming up with ideas that are original.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
true
a great bunch of shows here started in other countries and we just adapted them to fit here.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
which just moved Taxi to a bar, which was basically
Happy Days in a cab stand
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Community was pretty original
But stupid American didn’t watch it
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Are they canceling it or something?
That’s one of the few shows I actually watch, though it’s almost always on DVR with my sister since she makes sure I watch it with her now and then.
It's on "hold"
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i thought they were just moving it to a new night?!
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I watch Community Rui
The setting may have been original, but the dialogue and storylines were derivative crap. Watch moar good shows.
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You say "derivative" like it's a bad thing.
The whole point of the show is just to poke fun at pop culture tropes in general. I could understand how the concept could get tiresome after a while (you have to be more and more clever to keep it from getting repetitive) but if it’s not “derivative” then the concept doesn’t work.
The New Girl kind of has that same "nerdy is cool" vibe
I don’t really watch TV anymore though, so I couldn’t name any others, but it seems to be a trend in this country.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Have you watched that show?
It’s another show trying to be a twist on Friends. Same with Happy Endings, which I think is a superior show.
I have to admit, though, I really love the sitcoms without the laugh track. Much better, and it isn’t joke a minute. Although nobody on those shows talks or has any kind of conversation like a normal person would — it’s all very demonstrably witty and contrived.
That was what made the Ricky Gervais “Office” so special — everyone acted similar to normal human beings but just SLIGHTLY exaggerated for effect.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
My favorite Sitcom currently is That 70's Show
It has a laugh track. So does How I Met Your Mother, which I guess is ok.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't you call me Hitler for liking HIMYM?
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why are you overeacting
you argumentative fuck?
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Heh heh I miss late night VEB
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No I called you an idiot for saying HIMYM was the best, most original comedy show of all time
Or something else equally idiotic.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
I've watched one episode of How I Met Your Mother,
and it had an incredibly brilliant joke in it that really should have ensured I would watch more of it. Sadly, I have not seen another episode.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
which episode and which joke?
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Hmm.
It was an episode where Barney (the only character whose name I remember), had slept with — or wanted to sleep with, I don’t quite recall — the main character’s ex girlfriend. Barney is freaking out that the lead is going to find out what he did or wanted to do (I think they actually did end up in bed together the more I think about it), and so is very nervous and jumping at everything.
As for the joke: at one point in the proceedings, the lead is cleaning stuff out of his apartment or storage unit, and turns to Barney and asks, “Do you want my Xbox?”
Barney: “She has a name!”
And that’s how you fail to properly recreate a joke, ladies and gentlemen.
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by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
I remember that.
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hahaha yeah that's a great one.
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who will end up being Ted's wife (i.e. "The Mother")
my vote is for Robin, but no one in my family agrees.
youneverknow
Bob Saget has already said that she is not their mother.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
For the last time, Sheckie: BOB SAGET IS NOT GOD!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Nov 30, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't you talk about Bob Saget like that you heathenistic sonuvabitch
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
i laughed
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have you seen the whole series?
he calls her “aunt robin” all the time. plus, didn’t he say at some point that she ended up marrying her co-anchor who moved away?
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I know its complety illogical
and there is lots of evidence. And yet, I still think Robin will end up w/ Ted. Yep, have seen the whole series.
youneverknow
but the mother is the roommate of the one girl that ted dated while he was robin's roommate!
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seriously though, I know your right. I try not to let little things like facts get in the way of my theories.
youneverknow
oh yeah, like southside and boog. i get it.
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Therefore Ted must marry that dude's sister
OR Robin marries Barney and they are just referred to as “Uncle Barney” and “Aunt Robin” even though they aren’t technically related to Ted.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
i'm guessing its the latter
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i'm "aunt" ihb to a bunch of jerks i'm not related to
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Nah Robin is clearly going to marry Barney
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seriously, didn't ted tell his kids that robin marries the co-worker guy?
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Don't think so
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This conversation is worse than Pol Pot listening to Creed.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Nov 30, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
oh! i'm going to listen to arms wide open now.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
i'm not the only one who thinks this
And I swear they said at one point that she marries Don (or whatever her ex-boyfriend, ex-coanchor’s name was)?
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also
LettyGee
May 17th, 2011 2:12 PM
I think Robin isn’t the wife since in a pevious season Ted refered to Robin ex-bf and ex-coanchor as uncle Don, which seems to mean she will marry Don.
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Didn't Barney just impregnate Robin?
Not that this is determinative, but that led me to believe they were getting married. So did that early-season dance episode where it flashed to a wedding.
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what? i am behind an episode apparently
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I may be conflating a couple early episodes
but there’s one where Barney is choosing a tie at a wedding. There is no indication as to who is getting married. I assumed it to be Barney and Robin.
And I hope I didn’t just offer up a big spoiler for you.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
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i saw that one.
i don’t remember robin being pregnant
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Right.
I combined the early-season episode with the wedding scenes with the Robin-is-pregnant episode to conclude that Robin and Barney get married.
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yep haven't seen it yet
my boyfriend probably deleted it from the dvr again
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Sorry to spoil it.
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you should totally dump him for deleting HIMYM
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
He calls her Aunt Robin so that's out.
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British TV is developed for more of a niche market, much like cable TV is developed in this country. So they’re more likely to let the content developers run with an idea rather then giving copious amounts of "notes" in an attempt to get the show to appeal to the mainstream.
I think in a lot of areas it’s kinda the opposite actually. There has been a lot of stuff in the media over the last couple of years bemoaning the lack of a UK equivalent of HBO, and saying that shows like the Wire just wouldn’t get made in the UK.
Some of the lower budget stuff (especially comedy) is maybe a bit more experimental than in the US though, I guess. But, just like in the USA, 90% of British TV is populist shit. I imagine you just probably get to see more of the remaining 10%.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 30, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure "populist" is the right word for htat
I assume you mean something along the lines of “lowest common demoninator” rather than fostering adherence to a People’s political party or activist egalitarianism or something like that.
You asshtat.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Are you talking about all the property shows?
I do like things like grand designs, the ones where they save the old homes and estates, and of course I’m looking forward to Downton Abbey, will probably watch it this weekend …
Also, I’m missing me some Catherine Tate … anything new coming … or perhaps more Vicar of Dibley or other French and or Sanders?
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12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
is Downton back on PBS this week?
Been waiting for season 2 all year. Well, at least since season 1 ended…
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
you can download it when over on kickass torrents
It’s already been on PBS this year but may be in different cycles in different viewing areas I believe
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Are you talking about season 1? Season 2 has aired in Britain,
but is not supposed to air here in the US until January 8 of 2012. There’s a Christmas special airing Dec. 26, but I would bet that’s only in the U.K., too. Also, I don’t believe in paying for a torrent site.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
I seem to have been mistaken
But I normally just download my British content from sites such as:
The Box
or
But Downton abbey is not there so hence kickass torrents
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, and there are shows like Peep Show...
That blow away anything on American television, cable or otherwise.
by mattisnotfrench on Dec 1, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
I think there are many more very good British comedy shows than American ones.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 4, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
British shows have an easier television development process
and are therefore easier to get made.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Which is why they end up with The Office and Coupling
and we end up with Whitney and Two and a Half Men.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Fuck you for stealing my Whitney reference.
Seriously. Whitney. Argh.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
I don't watch any British shows
But I will say that Hugh Laurie is the best TV actor I’ve ever seen.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the British are better.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Laurie or Damien Lewis.
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Derk-a-Derrrr!
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by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
I thought he was a Spartan.
Not a warrior-hero Spartan with super-duper abs, but a traitorous well-spoken Spartan who keeps evidence of his betrayal on his person at all times.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
are you counting the teeth or not
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's an interesting query.
I think, for some reason, there’s just less of a concern with thespian’s appearances there. It’s not that they don’t have the beauty myth — just look at their tabloids sometime — but specifically in acting the Brits don’t seem to insist their stars maintain an unrealistic standard of physical attraction.
Really, though, you’d be better off asking Monk or Aranthor. They might have a better understanding of the paradigm than I.
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by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
theory
every actor is secretly Canadian
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this is certainly the rage in hollywood right now
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
ok new theory
every television actor is secretly Canadian
every movie actor is secretly Australian
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Does it have something to do with the BBC being a public service broadcaster,
or am I stretching it too far there?
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Hmm.
I don’t know, honestly. I don’t necessarily know why that would much matter, but I might be convinced.
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by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
In terms of quality, I believe it does.
There are far fewer commercial breaks and there is less pressure for immediate success and advertising dollars. I think this is bore out in better storytelling and shows being allowed to find an audience.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
See above re: my comments on HBO
On the other side of the coin, there are a lot of folks here who decry our TV model and believe (probably correctly) that the best drama in the last 10 years has almost all come out of that US, and that something like the Wire will never be made in the UK.
That said, the BBC is very good at certain things. The original ideals of Lord Reith still persist to some extent, which means massively expensive and not necessarily “profitable” but still genuinely groundbreaking projects like some of the recent David Attenborough/BBC Natural HIstory unit programmes (Planet Earth, Frozen Planet, Blue Planet etc), which are far and away ahead of any other Natural History filmmaking the world over, get made. But we get a lot of derivative shit as well, including on the BBC.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 30, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
FWIW, I think it's largely ascertainment bias.
In the US, you are likely to only see the better British-made TV shows/films, ergo there will probably be a higher percentage of good actors in those than the average US show you see on TV. Our soaps etc. are still full of terrible actors and actresses, some of which to some extent comply with the “unrealistic standard of attractiveness” thing.
That said, I do tend to agree to an extent with this
there’s just less of a concern with thespian’s appearances there
I’d also say that a thriving and vibrant stage scene plays a big part – I get the feeling there is perhaps more “serious” drama on stage here, that it’s maybe a bigger thing (on average) than it is in the states, and that a lot of our better actors (in particular, those over a certain age – Helen Mirren, Anthony Hopkins, Ian McKellan, John Hurt, Tilda Swinton etc etc etc etc) come, if not necessarily from that background directly, from an acting profession that is heavily invested in that sort of quality and professionalism.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 30, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Also Britain seems to have a large amount of good to very good, but not necessarily great, shows where good character actors can shine
Maybe I’m just a sucker for British murder mysteries, but I would consider shows like Sherlock, Lewis, Midsomer Murders, Foyle’s War, etc. to be far, far better than nearly all equivalent US crime dramas. I suspect I like these types of shows because the longer 1.5 to 2 hour episodes allow for more character development. I suppose that most of the actors that appear in these types of shows are probably considered B-list over there, but nearly all are better actors than the people who populate the “Also starring/guest starring” lists on American shows.
Think I probably generally agree with this.
Sherlock is excellent as well. Although I’m not sure that making Moriarty into a screaming attention-seeking queen was the best of ideas, we’ll see where they run with it.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 4, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm....I will basis my conclusion that British film/TV are better on two things
1. Fawlty Towers is fucking hilarious
2. Tom Wilkinson in Michael Clayton; Daniel Day-Lewis in Gangs of New York and There Will be Blood
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
sample size
We get the cream of the crop on British shows.
Also, British shows are more likely to hire less good-looking actors who are good at acting.
Grit != flat out sucking.
wait, swing music's back?
again?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Well, it was when Mel Gibson said that in that one Simpsons episode
They re-made Mr. Smith Goes To Washington as an action movie, with a bloody climax. “All in favor… say die.”
oh. well unless i miss my guess, that aired in 1999.
at which point, yes, swing music was indeed back.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Okay so why don't we get the cream of the crop of American actors then?
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
There are plenty of great american actors
Tucci, PSHoffman, DWashington, Freeman all jump to mind
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
the point is that americans only hear and watch the good british shows
and aren’t exposed to the crap ones. and there are plenty of crap ones.
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Nov 30, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
exactamundo
if you cherry picked american television you could have a non stop run of The Wire The Shield, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Sons of Anarchy, Community, Parks and Rec, Discovery Channel, History Channel (-ghosthunters), House, Deadwood, Flight of the Conchords and fifty more that slip my mind
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
you missed arrested development.
but discovery channel and history channel are pretty much dead to me.
history channel is mostly conspiratorial stuff now, and ever since discovery dropped wild discovery its existence has seemed a little pointless.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
My father is a huge fan of Ancient Aliens.
It’s always a little odd having dinner at the rents nowadays. He watches the Weather Channel and stuff about Atlantis and Nostradamus, pretty much nonstop.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
I understand the Ancient Alients fandom.
Just because of this guy.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Nov 30, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
His hair gets weirder every time I see that show.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Just the link...
because the picture is pretty big.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Just the link: the internet version of Just the tip.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, that link takes me to a blank white screen.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i noticed that. probably aliens, that are ancient.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Oh my gosh.
That guy cracks me up every time. Because every day he leaves his house and clearly thinks, “Yeah my hair and myself are kind of awesome.”
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
His daily checklist.
Phone? check
Wallet? check
carkeys? check
books about ancient nuclear weapons? check
hair properly combed and looking professional? fucking checkmate.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Nov 30, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually,
I believe the proper arrangement is check fucking mate.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
unless he is aussie and just missing a comma
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
i think i started a thread about this ages ago.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Hair properly combed so that people will take my crazy, controversial ideas seriously: Oh yeah, baby!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
i think it's purposeful.
if you look at pictures of him from early in the series he looks nowhere near so ridiculous.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I think he's slipping slowly even further into madness.
And we are all just witnesses.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
that is usually interesting to watch
case and point Gary Busey
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
He is one of the only reasons I watch that show.
Not Gary Busey, the other guy.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
i tried to post a link up above that shows the progression.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Nov 30, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am so right.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Trolling,
both in the internet sense and the actual troll doll sense.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
slash getting all types of laid.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
That.
Is just brilliant.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
At least Atlantis might actually be kinda sorta real
Some researchers recently said they might have found a sunken city near Cadiz that could have been the origin of Atlantis.
I've long said driving a truck across ice is interesting. it's not history.
A pawn shop is neither history nor interesting.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
neither is catching fucking crabs
in the alaskan ocean.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I wish you had left the Alaskan ocean bit off your post.
Much funnier that way.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
but that way, everybody'd say, "the jersey shore isn't on discovery!"
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 1, 2011 2:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I bet I could sell that Steamboat Itchy cell there!
(way to stay on the same episode!)
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Yep.
The hearsay and conjecture line, spoken by the immortal Phil Hartman.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I just knew it was a Lionel Hutz line
I didn’t realize it was from the Itchy and Scratchy court battle.
if the truck falls through the ice...
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Nov 30, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's why it's referred to as The Nistory Channel
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Was Discovery the one that did Planet Earth?
the footage from that one alone makes that channel worth it
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
and i believe it was discovery that made the decision
to replace sir attenborough’s voice with oprah winfrey’s for the narration, for which i will never forgive them.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
That was Sigourney Weaver
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I thought it was Sigourney Weaver
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Oh, fuck.
That’s pretty much sacrilege.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 30, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
this was actually done to the american version of
life but, yes, it is sacrilege.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Sigourney Weaver in Planet Earth wasn't terrible
But Oprah in Life was just intolerable. She narrated like she was doling out gossip on her talk show.
I find Oprah in life, in general, to be pretty intolerable.
by mattybobo on Nov 30, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You get a car!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
no politics!
you’re talking about the future Madam President, you know
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
heh
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Overdubbing David Attenborough's voiceover in any natural history show should be punished with some form of castration.
Chemical or mechanical. I’m not fussy.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 4, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Are we thinking of the same
Program because Sigourney Weaver narrates this one
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Same series
Different narrators
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
yes. we are thinking of the same programme.
discovery still replaced the narrator. and you don’t replace attenborough.
i think life was the oprah one.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Also,
the British seem to have a very strong attraction to ‘serious’ acting, while Americans are a bit more enamoured of Michael Bay films. So really skillful actors may get a bit more play there, it seems to me at least.
Finally, Kate Winslet alone makes your contention British actors are less attractive false. She pulls the whole country up to a tremendous degree.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Okay but in what universe would Burn Gorman be considered a candidate for the guy who gets laid all the time on an American show?
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
That...is a good point.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Kate Winslet??
Keira Knightly is the one I would have picked.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Keira Knightley
has the most perfect facial bone structure in existence. That being said, bitch needs to fucking eat something. Like a buffalo.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Deep fried.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I heard she's moved in with Mike MacDougal
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
And at night,
you can hear their limbs all rubbing together, like crickets or daddy longlegs mating.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
....
Oh, you meant the buffalo.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
if she wraps herself in bacon, and then later eats the bacon, that is acceptable too.
frying kills a lot of things
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
She has weird teeth, too.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 1, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
kate winslet is the right answer. sorry.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 1, 2011 2:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
A man after my own heart you are.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Dec 1, 2011 3:25 AM EST up reply actions
I used to think Michael Bay was some sort of postmodern genius.
Now I just think he’s an accidental postmodern genius who is entirely unaware of what he is doing. Also his work has become unwatchable, which is too bad because The Rock was fucking great.
I think it's more like he was aware of what he was doing
But thought it was a little better than it actually was, and then he didn’t really have anything else to offer.
MICHAEL BAY EXPLOSIONS!
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by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
he is very aware of what he is doing.
there’s an ad out there for verizon fios that is basically bay parodying himself. i think he is a postmodern genius whose movies are pretty crap.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
it's pretty easy to be a "genius" by making stuff that's so bad it's funny
what ever happened to stuff that’s actually good?
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
there are plenty of directors that make good film.
“postmodern genius” seems to me to be a backhanded compliment.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I love The Rock so much.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Winners go home and fuck the prom queen!

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Alternative retort:
Replace instances of Kate Winslet in this post with Jamie Bamber
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Kate Winslet, Keira Knightly, Sienna Miller, Emily Blunt, Gemma Arterton, Kate Beckinsale, Elizabeth Hurley, Rachel Weisz
And those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Emma Watson, Billie Piper, Thandie Newton, and Catherine Zeta-Jones probably also belong on this list.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I would let Kate Beckinsale have her way with me
And it would be glorious
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
cheaters never win.
except in sports, business, politics and life in general…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I would let anyone on that list have their way with me
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
It's odd,
but I don’t find Ms. Beckinsale all that attractive. From an objective standpoint I can surely see why she is attractive, but I don’t personally find her particularly appealing. I’m not sure why.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Beckinsdale on a list with Emily Blunt you pick out Beckinsdale to complain about?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I'm sorry, but I don't know who Emily Blunt is offhand.
I’m very out of touch, sadly.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I did not see Adjustment Bureau.
I meant to, but did not. Looking at here IMDb page, she’s also been in a bunch of stuff like Devil Wears Prada I’ve never seen. I feel bad about myself.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, I see.
It didn’t look particularly good, but I was willing to give it a chance.
When did Matt Damon stop making good movies?
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
did you see The Informant!?
terrible movie, but I thought Damon did a great job in it
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
How was it a terrible movie?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i had a hard time keeping interest in the movie
and it was filmed (and the actual story took place) 40 miles from where I grew up…maybe its just me?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
where was it filmed?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Decatur and Blue Mound
and a little bit at Lambert
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
At the Blue Mound ... that's just outside Altamont right?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
I see you meant the town
The Blue Mound Tavern is outside Altamont
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not a big fan of his recent oeuvre
though Hereafter was decent. The one he did with Emily Blunt, The Adjustment Bureau, was a good premise, but I don’t think it delivered (but, I’m a big fan of Emily). Haven’t seen True Grit, tho I heard he was good in it.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
i think we found the one person
who likes hereafter, you guys.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Nov 30, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My tastes in movies have always differed from most other people's, I've found
c’est la vie. I’m more of a rom/rom-com kind of guy, as I’ve stated in the past.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 1, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
yes, he was good in True Grit, and the movie was good too
Hereafter though…one of the very few Eastwood productions I don’t care for
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
I am very excited to see the new Muppet film.
I like both Jason Segel and Amy Adams, and I love love love muppets.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, you've already seen it?
Well then, I shall take your review to heart and immediately make plans to go and see muppets.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
adjustment bureau was fucking terrible.
normally i don’t get very worked up about films, but adjustment bureau was all “here is this massive plank of wood which represents a metaphor and we shall beat you over the head with this plank of wood until you’re very dizzy and want to go home and then we’ll pretend like we’re going to let you go home but then we’ll say ‘just kidding’ and beat you over the head with the metaphor some more”.
not very subtle.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
So every movie that comes out of Hollywood?
working heavy handed statements into Prince of Persia? really?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
not every movie does this.
but not every movie assumes its audience is as obtuse as adjustment bureau did.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
adjustment bureau was so-so. great idea, not so good execution.
the devil wears prada was excellent.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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TDQP was a good movie and did exactly what it aimed to do
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Also, I wasn't responding to the list,
only to Rui’s assertion about he and Ms. Beckinsale’s prospective rendezvous.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Probably that I rarely find cold looking women
who look like they have something bad tasting in their mouth to be attractive
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
well a lot of people do
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Really vep an "Appeal to Majority"?
A lot of people think Uma Thurman is hot, a lot of people are wrong.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
uma thurman is sexy
not hot. there’s a difference. you’re telling me you wouldn’t wanna wipe that look off of emily blunt’s face..? (i fear I’ve said too much)
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Uma Thurman has manfeet and manhands.
always creeped ME out, especially since Tarantino dedicated so much camera time to them.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Sorry I am 6'2" so I really don't have that kind of resentment
built up.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
it's not resentment
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
how tall are you again?
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
like 5-8
but, what?? everyone is below average at something.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
how much are you getting paid again?
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
More than the average 22 year old
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
oh yeah, well how good is your boat shoes and skinny tie ensamble?!
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Oh sir, that's well above average
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
you don't even have a matching one! lololol
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
It's not like two-year olds get paid anything
I don’t think considering twenty of them will make a difference
by hr on Nov 30, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
your hair is
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Oh we all know that's false
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
... this is still the funiest thing I have seen you write here.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
go watch the adventures of baron von munchausen and then we'll talk.
ignorance without the bliss - aimee mann
by tom s. on Dec 1, 2011 2:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
um, yeah.
whoever said british actresses weren’t as attractive is misguided.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
This is a flawed statement based on an ignorant assessment of sample sizes of a society
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
and Bad Teeth
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I think it's the overall cultural attitude toward the craft of acting.
In Britain, due to its deep roots to the theatre, acting is viewed as more of a craft. I think this allows for actors to work at becoming better by putting on a play every night for months on end. It’s quite different than filming a movie or a television show.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
anyone watch "Doc Martin"?
I like it, but sometimes I can’t figure out why. The lead is entirely unpleasant, sometimes the show is overly melodramatic, some of the episodes are unsatisfying. I guess when it works, it really works. And it’s different, which is a nice alternative to a lot of American TV.
youneverknow
remember when those shoes were really popular?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
barely
I have done Google searches for Doc Martin and keep getting surprised when shoes pop up.
youneverknow
I do
At some point I could no longer wear them because my feet were too wide, and breaking them in was too painful to bother. But I remember them being durable and my school had a dress code, so they were a good option that lasted a long time, since I would be wearing them at least five days a week.
I've had the same pair since 2002 or 2003, worn nearly every day, and they're still in great shape.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
I should also mention that I do no real work in them
but that’s still a crazy long time for a pair of shoes to hold up!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
hmm.
Wi-Fi Laptops Harm Sperm Motility And Increase Sperm DNA Fragmentation
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's from a study in argentina done by a corrupt organisation
with very little credibility in the scientific community at large.
nothing to see here.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Saw that, but pretty sure it's not actually Science yet.
Like, I think they just took some petri dishes of sperm and stuck them under running laptops. They didn’t actually test or study people.
that's been going around for years
as far as i know my sperm is still strong!
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
how many kids do you have, anyway
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ask Rui's mom
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they're not all yours, you egotist
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Random question from a frequent lurker
Didn’t someone photoshop Mozeliak in that scarf next to the character despicable me? Anyone have that link? Nothing is showing up on site search or on google.
On the twitters
the search monkeys have been stymied many a time
I wish y’all luck finding Despicable Mo.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...

"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Nov 30, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
yeah this is the only one I could find
I know there’s another one out there
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Needs more scarf
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
excellent job all
merit badges for everyone
yes, even Fritz gets a merit badge
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Also,
my cat has diabetes.
Fuck.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Honest (but probably still insensitive) question
how attached are you to this cat?
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god you are a robot.
i thought i was emotionally insensitive. you make me look like a depressed 16 year old girl.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
You mean you aren't a...
depressed 16 year old girl?
Sign Roy O
by guayzimi on Nov 30, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
i can refer you to one, if need be.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
It's not like he's talking about someone's dog.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Nov 30, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 13 recs
amen
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
It's a good question
I didn’t give a shit when my hampster died.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
you don't have to give a shit about something you can punt.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you don't have to give a shit about things you can't punt.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
When I was a kid and my dog died
I knew that meant I got to get a new puppy.
But yes, I’m a little emotionally … fucked up.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
eh, it's better than the opposite.
caring really sucks sometimes.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell is wrong with you
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Nov 30, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Azru's empathy chip only works with humans, sometimes
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
i get where you're coming from.
i cried when i lost pets to the reaper, but it was a small comfort that i was able to get new pets.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
jeezus azru
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Baby, I was born this way.
/shoots self
//comes back to life
But seriously, my emotional synapses are wired differently. I’m not trying to be mean but it wasn’t clear how attached he was to the cat or if it was more like “now I have to spend all this money on a diabetic cat” kind of comment.
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i think very few people would write that comment trying to get people to think they have to spend money.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
i get what he's saying. diabetes isn't life threatening
so it could be more like a, oh great, tests and medicine and blah blah.
my concern was more about how azru felt about his own dog when it died.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Wasn't there a House episode about parents dealing with an autistic kid?
Foreman, Chase, and the girl were like “hey look how dedicated they are they must love him a lot” and House was all “this is a fucking chore for them, man”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
so THAT'S why azru likes house so much!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Also the scene at the Chicago convention in
‘Love & Other Drugs’ where the long time husband basically says that Jake Gyllenhal should ditch Anne Hathaway because Huntington’s Chorea is a b*tch.
I hope I never, ever face a decision like that. Ever. I feel like a terrible person for not reflexively knowing how I would answer that question.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
You're about one step away from being a serial killer, aren't you?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
most people here are
I think CG will surprise us. she’s my dark horse candidate — she’s more highly motivated than #lazyveb
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 1, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
there are days........
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Don't be distracted by the pinterest
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
i mean, who would suspect her?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I was thinking I remembered you being on the spectrum.
That kind of reaction makes perfect sense to a person with Autism or Asperger’s.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
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Again, this is a House episode writ to life, but
I’d love to be able to ACTUALLY claim a mild form of asperger’s. As far as I know, however, I am simply an ass and not actually developmentally different.
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I have had her for about five years and inevitably think about her getting old and dieing, and that makes me pretty sad to think about. She is one of my longest adult relationships.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Having been through a cat with epilepsy (and cancer from the drugs) and then another with old age issues
I sympathize with you.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
That was tough for you, wasn't it?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Your face was tough for me.
I don’t have a hard time sympathizing with people. I am legitimately sorry that he is sad. I’m not sure how capable I am of empathizing though. That I’ll admit is difficult for me.
Is there a way to quantify the ability to empathize?
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yes. there are serial killer ratings. they have rubrics.
this is, of course, measuring lack of empathy, not the other way around. methinks empathy in practice is rather contextual rather than a true categorical imperative.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Can't find a test but this is interesting:
FBI article on serial murder’s
• Predisposition to serial killing, much like other violent offenses, is biological, social, and psychological in nature, and it is not limited to any specific characteristic or trait.
• The development of a serial killer involves a combination of these factors, which exist together in a rare confluence in certain individuals. They have the appropriate biological predisposition, molded by their psychological makeup, which is present at a critical time in their social development.
• There are no specific combinations of traits or characteristics shown to differentiate serial
killers from other violent offenders.
• There is no generic template for a serial killer.
• Serial killers are driven by their own unique motives or reasons.
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I...did not need to know this.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 1, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
The more you know
/cue shooting star
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by azruavatar on Dec 1, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh good I never wet the bed or hurt animals
so I was starting to think these urges were wierd
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Do you think the taste "umamami" is just a giant marketing scam?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Nov 30, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
like many things, it's a Japanese thing.
it was identified in 1908, which only makes it uncool because it was late for our Worlds Fair.
they’re only starting to market it to the foreign masses. mameshiba.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 30, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Probably.
I think it’s a real thing, but the marketing departments in Japan are chiefly responsible for it becoming a well-known phenomenon.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
No.
It’s real. And scientifically proven.
Still doesn’t mean you should eat foods with MSG, however.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
MSG sensitivity is pretty bogus though
Jeffrey steingarten, food editor for vogue magazine wrote a great essay(which is compiled in an excelent book called The Man Who Ate Everything) called “Why doesnt everyone in China have a headache”. The essay has lots of interesting factoids, and really calls into question the idea of msg sensitivity.
I want Tung Po!
by ILoveTheSt.LouisCardinals on Nov 30, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Without MSG I am nothing
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
without reading the book
i would say that people in china don’t have headaches for the same reason that people in america did not used to be lactose intolerant, but a lot of people from like africa or something are. evolution, man.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Except that lactose intolerance has been known to exist for hundreds of years,
and has an obvious and extremely provable biological cause and effect.
People with “MSG sensitivity” have been repeatedly proven to be full of shit and there is no biological mechanism that makes MSG sensitivity plausible.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
I heard a long thing on NPR that said it was all bogus. I believe it.
The “sulfite” problem is wine is horse-dung.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
This just in!
Some chemical compound that has been eaten for millenia without causing any sort of apocalypse is totally bad for you and you should stop consuming it!
Oh wait, nevermind.
Rinse, repeat.
don't eat the eggs.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
As the spouse of someone. . .
who gets migraines every time she eats MSG, I assure you that it is not bogus.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 30, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
I think that's a little unfair though
Migraines are kind of a special case. My sister gets migraines, and MSG is one of the things they were able to isolate that probably causes them. That means little for people who don’t get migraines, though.
Like true sulfite sensitivity, it's not that these things NEVER happen.
It’s that it’s incredibly rare. Way more rare than the masses of people who think they have problems with it.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Well, have you done tests that show the actual migraines?
And what is the correlation to “nights you ask for sex?”
by sdrone on Nov 30, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
MSG is good for you.
It makes things taste better without the addition of salt and fat, making them healthier.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Uh huh
By making them taste saltier and fattier. Which, by extension, makes you crave salty and fatty foods.
I really don’t care what anyone eats, honestly, I just get really tired of people stating that scientifically proven facts aren’t true.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Good movie
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Twitter
Who gets in?
2012 HOF Ballot released today
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
For those who hate clicking links:
The ballot: Jeff Bagwell, Jeromy Burnitz, Vinny Castilla, Juan Gonzalez, Brian Jordan, Barry Larkin, Javy Lopez, Edgar Martinez, Don Mattingly, Fred McGriff, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Bill Mueller, Terry Mulholland, Dale Murphy, Phil Nevin, Rafael Palmeiro, Brad Radke, Tim Raines, Tim Salmon, Ruben Sierra, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell, Larry Walker, Bernie Williams, Tony Womack, Eric Young.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
TONY WOMACK!
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Nov 30, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Of that list,
I’m going to say Larkin and Tim Raines get in. Long overdue for both, too. Lee Smith might have a shot, too, as it seems writers are now willing to vote for closers.
Dale Murphy is an interesting case. I can never make up my mind on him.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm.
I would need to look at his numbers. In my head he doesn’t feel like a Hall of Famer, but that’s based on absolutely no real analysis of his career. So he could be.
I would like to see Walker get in, but I think if he does it will be one of those long, protracted candidacies.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
See, that's much better than I realised.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I think Bagwell will get in, but he won't get in on the first ballot.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
you are correct sir!
he only got 41% on his first ballot last year
At the time, I was shocked he didn’t get more. I think he should be in.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
his 1994 was amazing
.368/.451/.750 39HR 15SB in 110 games 7.8 WAR from 93-99 he was a top 5 hitter in an era full of holy terrors.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
No shoe-ins therre, except for Bagwell and Walker (I hope)
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
There's quite a logjam...
I see six hofers with Bernie, McGriff, Mattingly, and Walker just missing.
Sign Roy O
Larkin gets in for sure.
I think Edgar might get in just because he got so many votes last year. Same with Jack Morris, he’s the next one after Blyleven, and the fact that Bert got in last year makes the Morris voters case for them.
Dark horse would be Trammell.
Should get in: Larkin, Raines, Bagwell, Trammell,
HOVG: Williams, McGriff, Murphy, Mattingly, Martinez, Smith.
Steroid fatalities: Big Mac, Palmeiro,
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
If Morris gets in, I'm gonna punch Jon Heyman
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just gonna punch Jon Heyman.
Best idea I’ve heard all day.
by Pegasus on Nov 30, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone said that about Blyleven
and then he got in last year.
I’m telling you, with the absence of any other good pitchers on that list, I bet he gets in.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Blyleven was in the low 60s in years 11 and 12...
and he made it in year 14. Morris is in the low 50s in years 11 and 12 with no momentum and sabermetric headwinds depressing new converts to his cause… He has to gain around 8% per year for the next three years – I don’t know where that new support comes from. From voters will get to vote for Schilling and Maddux if they really want a pitcher.
Sign Roy O
Some serious roids on that list. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
yay or nay on the holiday season?
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 2:19 PM EST reply actions
yay, obviously
no school for a month.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Always yay.
One of the few things I can honestly say I completely enjoy in life.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I like bacon well enough.
I made some of my own two years ago and really enjoyed that. A bit time-consuming, though, for someone who just doesn’t eat a huge amount of it.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
it was a bit of a rhetorical question.
i really enjoy your writing this time of year and have for the past five years.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yay.
The Holiday season is magical.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Bobby Valentine!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Nov 30, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
until you walk into a walgreens on Christmas Eve and witness a heated argument between cashier and customer that turns into culture bashing
Cashier said “Happy Hollidays”
Customer said “It’s Merry Christmas”
Cashier, instead of letting it go and realizing the old woman who was 80+ years old (and probably senile) wasn’t going to let it go said “Happy Hollidays, mam”
Customer now screaming “It’s Merry Christmas you whore, everyone around here celebrates Christmas”
Customer behind old woman says “Actually, I’m Jewish so I appreciate it that cashiers and other people wish Happy Hollidays”
Old Woman customer says (and I shit you not) “Nobody asked you how you felt, you’re Jewish, the only opinion I’d listen about from you is about money”
But yeah, outside of that, the holiday season is magical
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Just because some people ignore the magic doesn't mean it's not magical.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
I love how you subconsciously spelled "holiday" "holliday"
by hr on Nov 30, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
ha, my bad
freaking Holliday, I’m always spelling holiday “holliday” because of him
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
WHile he just counts his money...the jerk!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
not sure if actually happened
fry.jpg
or just reddit post from yesterday
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I can assure you it happened
3 years ago. I wish I had my phone to record it
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Some people are immune to the magic because they don't believe in magic.
Clearly the problem here.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Also, when I worked for Walgreens
people who came to the store on Christmas eve and Christmas were 99% asshole and 1% nice. I had a woman on Christmas, who told me I didn’t know how to do my job because I told her the new ad wouldn’t be here until the next day because of the Christmas Eve 48 hour special ad.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Because those are the people who don't believe in magic.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Tis the Season!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Sounds like a Protestant.
we all know the real greeting is “Merry Roman Catholic Christmas.”
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Happy Spanish Inquisition!
See, no one expects you to say that.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm really, really disappointed
that it’s been this long and The Spanish Inquisition hasn’t shown up yet. Sigh.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
it was too obvious, he sensed the trap
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, probably right.
Or maybe the mere fact I was expecting the Spanish Inquisition ensured it wouldn’t show up.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
that is because suspected they would show up
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
or because his google alerts is broken
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Did someone call the Spanish Inquisition? !!!!!!!!!!111
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Their absence is unexpected.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Pretty sure it is supposed to be "Happy Hogswatch!"
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
DUH
And this after four weeks of wishing people an Auspicious Advent, or else it doesn’t even count.
It also helps to quiz them on when you use the pink candle
That way you don’t waste it on anybody who not worthy.
is this the actual meaning of Boxing Day?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this interaction would be magical to see!
it’s a holiday miracle!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
better question: what are you doing in a walgreens on christmas eve?
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
i am almost positive i have been in a walgreens on christmas eve every year for like the last 5 years
either printing pictures, getting gift cards, or buying candy. its the only place that’s open!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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i was being an ass.
we always take the hour trip down to grandma’s for christmas and leave around 10:30 after having christmas morning. stupidly, it’s one of my favorite christmas traditions to go out around 9:30 AM after my shower to walgreen’s to get whatever we forgot to get already and then drive down the street to quiktrip to get a coffee.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
one of your favorite christmas traditions is going to walgreens?!
really? of all the traditions? that’s your choice?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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One of my favourite
holiday traditions is going driving around the city alone at around three o’ clock in the morning on Thanksgiving day.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Buying things.
Because they are the only place open. Duh.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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such a woman.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yay. I freaking love it.
Sure, there are some obnoxious things about it, but any external reasons to celebrate are good enough for me.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
I think he'll relax and have a really good one.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
no imo's for mojo
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
The magic can still find you.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Nov 30, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
as long as I'm stuck in retail, its a nay
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Magic hater.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Nov 30, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yay
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
WHAT ABOUT BACON??!?!?!
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 2:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
In handegg news, Aaron Rodgers needs a new barber.
by Pegasus on Nov 30, 2011 2:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
What about bacon?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I don't think it's a crime yet
though you’d get some angry faces
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
\o
Intercepted!
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Best idea I've heard all day!
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Did we really have Albert Pujols, Lance Berkman and Matt Holliday on the same team this year
And did we really win the World Series?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 2:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
this was my thought prior to September
Did we really have Albert Pujols, Lance Berkman and Matt Holliday on the same team this year? And are we really going to win 83 games?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Is this the real life ?
Is this just fantasy ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Caught in a landslide.
No escape from reality
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Doin alright
A little jiving on a Saturday night
And come what may
Gonna dance the day away
Jenny was sweet
She always smiled for the people she meet
On trouble and strife
She had another way of looking at life
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
We're just a poor team
We need a hometown discount
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
the correct answer is
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 30, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Well, it's been fun, all,
but I’ve spent much, much more time here than I could really afford to today due to the enjoyment. Now, however, I must go. See you guys — and gals (Ted Drewes’d) — next Wednesday.
Baron out.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
Thanks for reminding me that I can't go get Ted Drewes whenever I want because I don't live in St. Louis.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
Does anyone ever understand what the fuck Joe Strauss is talking about?
JoeStrauss Joe Strauss
If I had to construct a Top 5 To Be Traded List, Raz’ would be on it.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
Im guessing
He means a list most likely to be traded. Such a tool.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Nov 30, 2011 3:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Royals
are interested in Rasmus
Combine that with Rasmus not mumblings at the end of the season of Rasmus not working with his new coaches and people in Canada not happy with his work ethic. Could be possible.
At this point, if Strauss says Rasmus is out on the table to be traded you have to believe him right?
Grit != flat out sucking.
fyi
Amazon.com has the world series blu ray for pre order do $15.49
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Nov 30, 2011 4:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Bought it over the weekend.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Goold addresses the Cardinals' bullpen
and it includes this:
The Cardinals remain in contact with the agent for Octavio Dotel, as discussed in this morning’s paper, and the team does intend to explore the addition of a “veteran presence” for the bullpen. That was described this week as a Russ Springer-type. The team could also explore adding a veteran with closing experience who could fill in as either the closer or setup reliever if one of the younger relievers falters. The Cardinals view McClellan, Lance Lynn, Mitchell Boggs, Fernando Salas and Marc Rzepczynski all as possible fits for the setup role ahead of Motte. Lynn, the rookie righty, was described during the postseason as perhaps a closer-type reliever. A reliever like Brad Lidge or Kerry Wood would fit that “veteran” role and bring in past closing experience, but the price tag for such an arm is expected to be beyond the Cardinals’ reach at this time.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I WANT LYNN TO START
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Lynn's allowed to, you know, not be in the MLB
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
AAA
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Keep him in waiting for extra innings in game 6 of the World Series.
Beyond that I see no future for him.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I hope they work
Something out. The guy made braun look like a fool in the nlcs, it’d be nice to have that for an entire season.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Nov 30, 2011 4:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
K-Mc is a setup candidate? ...
If there has to be a vet pres then I hope it’s Rhodes coming back for cheap. We need another lefty anyway, and he was pretty dang good as recently as 2010. I wouldn’t describe myself as a believer in him rebounding, but I can’t think of a better lefty option that also solves the team’s desire for a vet.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
does anyone have good headphone recommendations?
three hundred dollars is probably my limit on price.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
My headphones came with my phone. They seem to work.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Nov 30, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
sweet, i got myself some boots!
cyber monday ftw
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
WOOOO!
which reminds me that my sisters want boots. i should look for some.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
amazon has a really great selection
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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bose are the best
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I know this now
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
you can learn a lot in 6.5 hours apparently
by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
there was a discussion above
I trust RB.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
remember 95% of people these days never listen on anything better
than Ipod earbuds so the jump from that to Bose is pretty big, just not as big of a jump as say to a nice set of Sennheisers
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Well I use the $2.03 premium in ear headphones on monoprice.com and they suit all my needs, so
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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you realize that there are better headphones that make music sound better and are more comfortable for your ears, right?
aren’t you the one who spends bucks on beer and boat shoes?
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
no, i have shitty earbuds
my mom got me bose a few years back for my birthday, but then my brother cut them in half because he’s dumbass. i wish i had bose.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
i was making fun of you for liking bose things
but i have no real reason for doing so. in doing my research, a lot of reviewers of headphones make fun of bose. i think because they’re overpriced and dial up the bass or something?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
They're not really all that overpriced.
The one issue with Bose — and this is something only people who are reviewing headphones would care about — is that they essentially build their headphones with the same soundstage concept they use in their radios and other speaker systems. They make amazing open-air speaker systems, but seem to think just because headphones and wave radios both employ small speakers the needs and opportunities are the same in both instances. What you get is much what you say: bass is pumped way up, clarity is sacrificed, the dynamics are really just off in general.
In other words, Bose makes headphones that aren’t designed with the headphone environment properly in mind.
Like I said, it’s the sort of thing only a very specific type of person is going to honestly care about.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Some audiophile I used to work with
said that they don’t release specs on their products, or something like that, and that they’re the only company that does this. Because of this they are a joke among people who care about that stuff.
their speaker systems are actually really, really bad.
Mentioning Bose on any DIY audio site, or any real audiophile site, is like quoting RBI’s or pitching wins. Their best stuff is mid-entry level, at best, and they cost significantly more than what an entry level system should cost. They survive off of marketing and hand-waving, and from the assumption that almost no one will ever actually hear a system that sounds good, so people think the flat, muddy, and ill-defined bass you get from a bose cube is acceptable, or even thrilling.
I’ve never used their headphones.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
I dunno
I don’t actually know anything about headphones, but the bose i had felt really soft on my ears.
I guess you’re right that bose and dre beats are too bassy. like RB says that throws off the dynamics.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
i don't really know a whole heck of a lot.
i was just going off what other people have said.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Those Beats audio ones are terrible about that.
Everything sounds like it was mixed by Lee Perry.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
The most comfortable pair of headphones I own
are actually an old pair of Philips from the early-ish 90s. I don’t recall the model number, but they’re like velvet-covered peanut butter to wear.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've found as I've grown older, I can no longer walk around listening to music all day
I have to have “conversations” and “social interactions” and (this is me making a jerkoff motion with my hand).
Enjoy your youth, dickbag.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Yesterday, I finished classes at 10 AM
So I got an omelete and then went back to my room to take a nap. Then I smoked a j and listened to all of the Soundtrack to the Film More while walking around the beautiful rain soaked campus. Then i got a sandwich and watched tv for a couple of hours. tired out by my arduous day I went to bed and got a full 10 hours of sleep.
So how are your suits and your job?
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Well, the work days about over
so I’ll probably go home, enjoy a vodka drink, do some reading, make dinner, watch some tv, have sex, and go to sleep.
So, not bad. My life isn’t completely ruined, yet (hooray nuva ring!).
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Nov 30, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
just year 20. i would still take 21-28
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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oh well yeah, fuck being 20.
21 is great, however.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I would start over at 20 or 18 even in a heartbeat
Not that life is over for me at this stage yet by any means, but age 18 to present day has been great for me so far. I’ve had a great run and have loved all of it all the way. Of course there were some low times, but the good times have far outweighed the low ones.
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
yeah....i firmly believe these will be some of the best years of my lfie.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
There is more to life than drinking, fang
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
not when you're an accountant lol
by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha lol
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
it's not even all about drinking.
just the freedom that i can do what i want when i want where i want.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
you already could do pretty much whatever you wanted
you just couldn’t drink in a bar. is that like a last barrier thing or something?
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
can't get into every bar.
can’t go to clubs downtown, can’t go to a casino, can’t get into everywhere on the loop, can’t go to all you can drink with my friends, etc etc etc
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
so you can't drink, is what you're saying?
ok, and gamble at a casino (although I thought that was 18), but the other ones are all pretty much redundant
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
not that I'm denigrating
getting into bars. I would spend most of my life in bars, if money was no object and liver failure didn’t exist.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
I can't imagine ever wanting to spend much time in a casino
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
or at the clubs downtown
or consuming alcohol. or really any of those things
i guess it’s nice that i can if i want to, though
You don't drink?
That surprises me for some reason?
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Because he smokes weed
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
no, but a lot of the common reason for not drinking don't apply when you smoke
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
i don't not drink as a rule
but it’s not something i do particularly often. i have beers on infrequent occasion because i like good beer. i’m not fond of being drunk, though. and i hate being hungover
Drinking alone also isn't fun, unlike smoking
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I agree that there is nothing wrong with drinking alone
I just don’t like doing it that much. Mostly because I’ve found that it speeds up time, and makes you kind of stupid.
Smoking alone on the other hand really slows stuff down and makes you think more. Also music is much better.
Personal preferences..
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I haven't tried drinking alone enough to say
but that article makes me think I should fit it into my schedule one of these days.
smoking alone is great though
I liked reading that a lot though
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you're not drinking alone with the right people.
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by CodyG on Dec 1, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, definitely. I enjoyed that time, but there's no way I'd go back.
VEP’s day up there sounds incredibly boring to current me, though I would have liked it quite a lot at his age.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
it sounds incredibly boring to me as well.
but maybe i like doing nothing in a different fashion than he does. (see: not high)
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
There are other factors,
but part of the nice thing about being early 30’s instead of early 20’s is related to Fritz’s double Pujols question. At 30, there are a number of aspects of one’s life that have been built through a lot of dedication, trials, and time. These are often really good things.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
i would definitely rather sit in my office and draft motions than sit in a tiny dorm room all day
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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yeah. its just like fink said. college is all about dreaming what you could do one day
when you’re actually doing it, it’s pretty freaking awesome.
plus, my office is probably bigger than vep’s dorm room.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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i often daydream during class about my real job.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
the only thing i truly miss about college, other than my friends
is being able to eat/drink whatever i wanted without consequence
/typed whilst eating a bag of celery sticks
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Yeah that's pretty awesome
I wolf down an entire pizza and beer every weekend, and can run 5 miles the next day no sweat.
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
i miss being able to screw with my Circadian rhythms at will.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
And by weekend I mean Mondays.
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
yeah well, i'm 35 when it comes to that.
i don’t care enough about my appearance, apparently.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think college is neccesarily about dreaming about what you might want to do someday
It’s being able to live without the pressure of having to do anything.
I’m not going to be happy when I get out of college and have to get a job.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Why not get a job you like doing?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Mostly what I like doing
is playing playing guitar, listening to music, hanging out with friends or just walking around thinking. I can’t imagine anyone is going to pay me to do that.
I like going to class, and I kind of like writing essays, but only ones that allow for a certain amount of creativity.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Open up a music shop or something
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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that's kind of hard
you’d have to have some startup funds and spend a lot of effort getting the business off the ground. Besides I don’t think I’d enjoy that all too much. I don’t really care about selling records, and I’d still have to be inside all day and wake up early and stuff.
I’m hoping my band makes some money.
/not going to happen
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think I can relate to VEP
I hate jobs, every job I’ve ever had (and I’ve had part-time jobs, real jobs, and everything in between). Hell, you could turn my favorite activities into a job, and as soon as it imposed obligations and responsibilities on me, I think I’d hate those activities too. It’s less that I hate jobs and more than I hate working, of any kind, regardless of the nature of the job. What I’m trying to say, is that I’m very lazy. And jobs kind of get in the way of that.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
It's kind of a career
If bum is career … mind you I like’s my beer but had to get a day job to support my passion
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
wat
i hope you feel some pressure to do SOMETHING otherwise you won’t have a job to get
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I don't really care about that at this point in my life
I don’t equate having a job with doing what you really wanna do in life.
I would like to make enough money to have a room and electricity, and I’ll probably room with people after college.
If I live in a cheap area, a part time job should be enough.
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i'll......agree with this.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
lets be honest
you’re probably not having sex tonight
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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If I can keep the damn dog out of our room I am!
So… I’m probably not.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
I am!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
don't want to know.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
maybe i will, too!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
o/
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
\o
i have all the power to decide….mwahahah
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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by IHeartBoog on Nov 30, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My job's pretty sweet
I sit at my desk and watch sports all day. Then I come home and walk the dog or take it to the dog park. Then I make dinner and drink a beer. Then I’ll read or play FIFA or learn Spanish before I go to bed.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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goddamnit i have to go to class now
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
at least we have money for bose headphones
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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you're like 32, aren't you?
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
31.
Thanks to the Marines and college, I didn’t have to join the real world until I was 26, though.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
yeah, i'm going to go ahead and say you're still young.
not college young, but young.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
I am, and I act like it quite often.
But I can’t devote the time to myself to stay up on/listen to music the way I used to, unfortunately. I spend enough unnecessarily used energy just keeping up on baseball.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
well that's completely acceptable.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
And since the announcers suck
there’s 3 hours a day, all summer long, to listen to music. That’s what I do anyway. Put on some tunes, put on the game, pour a drink.
"I spend enough unnecessarily used energy just keeping up on baseball."
Yeah, that pretty well describes me too.
I spend enough unnecessarily used energy just keeping up on baseball.
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It's called a hobby
wife told me I should have one :)
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
My boat shoes were $8
And I brew my own beer, so no, not really
Also, as I stated, those $2 earbuds suit my needs fine, so why spend more?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
because better earphones make music sound better
obviously you don’t need them, but they are a luxury.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
i have vose head phones.
They’re nice.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Nov 30, 2011 4:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sennheisers are magnificent.
V-Moda are a much lower range price-wise, but they’re really quite good also.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
V Moda Crossfade LP
Official site though I think you can find them cheaper on Amazon. I have a pair of Gunmetal Black
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Actually I'd go with the sequel it seems
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
I just ordered the original Crossfades a couple days ago for like $80 on newegg.com
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
listening to music on my computer and iphone.
i know the ipod/iphone isn’t that great when it comes to audio quality, but it’s what i have so i’m going to make the best of it. i’ll be grabbing a line out dock and a portable amp as well, if i need to do so.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I've had a pair of Sennheuser
HD studio reference phones for about 10 years. They still sound fantastic. The folks saying that Bose speakers or headphones sound good haven’t heard good sound systems.
bose. bose. bose.
bose. bose. bose.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
why do people like bose so much?
overpriced
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 30, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
because it is overpriced. Same reason people buy $200 jeans or women buy $1000 handbags.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
I don't know that I totally agree with this.
As I said above, there are certain things Bose tends to do well, which made them a name in the industry. It’s just unfortunate they don’t apply the proper mindset to all their products across the board.
Hmm. Maybe we’re sort of saying the same thing. You’re saying the premium placed on the product creates some of the desire, while I’m saying it’s largely the name recognition gained from things they actually DO do well. Perhaps this is a six of one, half a dozen of the other situations.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Dec 1, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
I think its more their advertising lends them a certain cachet with the public
Spend just enough money on seemingly classy ads filled with people who appear to know what they are talking about and make distinctive products with premium products is a pretty good formula that Bose has been riding. The other thing Bose has going for it: I’d bet most members of the music listening public probably couldn’t name many other premium brands that most audiophiles actually like.
for ear buds Shure, Grado and Westone make an excellent product
for over the ears AKG, Grado and I really like Sennheiser
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I have also heard good things about Audio-Technica and Beyer Dynamic
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I love Shure's buds,
but I think he’s probably talking about full over the ear ’phones.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
you would be correct.
i find earbuds uncomfortable and i’m not dropping close to a thousand on custom in-ear monitors that are molded to my ears, so i figure for comfort’s sake i’ll go with headphones.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i just found this gift guide
and will be poring over it for the next few hours [PDF warning].
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
If SBN search wasn't borked
I could point you to the discussion where I asked this.
Anyway, I got Audio-Technica ATH-M50 and I love ’em.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 30, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just go with good speakers. my neighbors aren't that close.
but, you need good cables. Don’t believe me? Check out the reviews.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Nov 30, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Something for the Christmas wish list!
Thanks!
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 30, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd for borked
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i have these and liked them a lot
the plug is messed up now, though and you have to fiddle with it to get sound in both ears. they’re several years old. the sound quality is amazing, though
by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
AKG K240 studio
quite a bargain at $99. I bought it around $150 in Korea. well-balanced sound with great comfortability.
Cardinals fan from Korea
by FreeRedbird on Nov 30, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
or an improved version of it
K240 MKII
highly recommend, especially given the price.
Cardinals fan from Korea
Sennheiser HD 558, or 280 Pro if you like the closed style
unless you have a headphone amplifier, i don’t recommend going above that price range- very low return on your money without a good preamp from that point forward
is that the same magnifying that Lozano uses
to inspect his girls before taking them for a test drive?
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Nov 30, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I think his has a zoom.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
by pattimagee on Nov 30, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Flim, you surpass yourself. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
This ad is endorsed by:
Milton Bradley, Carlos Zambrano and a billygoat
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Taking away all emotional investment...
if Albert Pujols was a free agent from another team, would VEB as a collective be excited about giving him a, say, 8 year-$200M contract?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
no. i would be arguing vehemently against signing someone to
that sort of contract.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I don't know if VEB has that kind of cash...
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
by pattimagee on Nov 30, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i would not approve.
that’s funny
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Not at all.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
no.
and do—dammit this is going to be tough.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'm honestly not excited about it now.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Nov 30, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Considering Albert Pujols is an 11 year veteran with the Cardinals, one of the greatest players in MLB (let alone franchise) history
Would VEB as a collective be excited about giving him a, say, 8 year-$200M contract?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Yes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Well I don't know about EXCITED
But I’m certainly okay with it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
what would it take to get you excited?
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
6 years $150?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i think patti might be asking you a dirty question
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
eh, dirt doesn't seem all that exciting to me
I can’t imagine it being exciting for rui either
by hr on Nov 30, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
i try not to assume
i mean, someone likes aaron miles
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 30, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
are you getting pedantic now
we all know it’s really loam, peat, and clay
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Where do I sign ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
that would be a good contract for us. especially the 8 years only part
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
All I want for Christmas
is for the St. Louis Cardinals to re-sign Albert Pujols
What if the Cardinals did that?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
see this is a good time for "wat"
rather than o_o
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
No, like, what if they actually announced the signing on Christmas?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
oh. they wouldn't. pujols would not want them to.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
there is never a good time for the fucking emoticon.
emoticons suck.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Says the guys with an exclamation point to his right
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
that AAV is high,
but i’m fine with that contract.
you’ve proved we’re irrational actors. good job.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
That doesn't prove we're irrational actors at all
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
That doesn't prove we're irrational actors at all
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
You derive more utils from watching an 11-year veteran who your team developed and raised than you do from an equivalent stranger team
That’s not irrational, that just means that you derive utility from emotional responses.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Correct
It just proves that we value keeping Albert Pujols more than we would value getting him had we never had him. And there are logical reasons for this—it would be a good thing, the argument goes, to keep him here for community reasons, historical reasons, legacy, etc. etc. etc.
Furthermore, it seems like every reasonable person who is arguing for keeping Albert Pujols has already said this many, many times. It’s well known that we place value on keeping him a Cardinal and that changes the calculus, so to speak. So this really isn’t anything new. It’s a pretty fun way to demonstrate it, though.
Fritz: amateur sociologist
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
oh come on
there’s no such thing as a pro sociologist.
Historian burn!
Bursting into song.
by Aranathor on Nov 30, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i need girl advice.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:10 PM EST reply actions
I'd say you're about a B cup
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Nov 30, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Also, concealer is your friend!
(Some weird guy who I suspect is actually a make up tycoon or something talked about make up a lot on Bourdain’s new show. It was really kind of strange. Not sure how make up is supposed to help me have a fun time in New York but whatever.)
What the hell are you talking about
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Oh wait misread
CARRY ON
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I felt like I had to explain why I was thinking of make up
But I really shouldn’t have, given the history of mattybobo jokes on VEB.
this is so true.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
sweeeeeet, guys.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
yeah what's the question?
(p.s. the answer is she probably doesn’t like you)
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
thanks lindsay.
and i was mostly joking because i’m not going to publicize it.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
wat
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
you're an enigma wrapped in annoying
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
by IHeartBoog on Nov 30, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 15 recs
enigma?
middle school drama is now an enigma? oh jeez.
by hr on Nov 30, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
its a saying..enigma wrapped in a riddle
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
no one seems to be feelin' ya, IHB.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
She has all the power to decide.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Nov 30, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
aranathor got it
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Aranathor > VEB
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 30, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, where's gdm and Gibby45 when
IHB needs to be felt?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Quiet, you.
Don’t encourage the weirdness.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Nov 30, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, this.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma
- Winston Churchill, 1939
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
or just weird.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
I got it
And lol’d
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 30, 2011 9:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Every time I'm stressed I just have a beer
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
DanUp's true identity?
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't know why everyone is guessing down there.
This is actually a picture of Dan.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
I actually think this could be Ryan Theriot with heavy eyeliner
he’s got the same douchey lip stuble and Theriot would wear that hat. make it happen VEB, photoshop Theriot into that picture
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
or the ancient alien guy's hair.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I liked it better when I thought this was Scott Weiland
I had a great picture to share.
Oh hell, I will share it anyway.
I may finally have found that “Fabulous Nazi” that VEB was talking about a while ago:

My screen shows a broken photocon.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Nope.
I get
This webpage has a redirect loop
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
OK, try this
I was linking directly to the image before, but this is the page I got it from: http://www.floridaentertainmentscene.com/music/artists/velvet_revolver/c_r/index.htm
What is a Velvet Revolver?
Does it put you under the ground? Is it a 60’s album with woven tufted fabric on it? Is it blue?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
It sounds like all of those things plus a bunch of other cliches
But in actuality, I’m pretty sure it’s band with Weiland (the guy from Stone Temple Pilots), Slash, maybe, and some other guys.
they're not too bad really
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 30, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
i had completely forgotten about this tool
sometimes I’m glad I’m single because I’m never forced to watch ridiculous “reality” bullshit
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Want to know what worked for me in college?
I bought a Tuxedo and said I would go with anyone to a dance. I became girls backup plan since I already owned a tux. It snowballed and by end of college I went to like 25 to 30 dances.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 30, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but i've never heard of a backup plan who got laid
and we won the world series.
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 30, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Coming this summer
“The Backup” from Fox
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 30, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
right up my alley!
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
proper backup plans never tell.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
you've said this like 8 times already on VEB
my friend has a tuxedo, hasn’t done jack shit for him yet.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Needs more advertising.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
by Cardinals645 on Dec 1, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
OT
Fun Christmas Mix, not your grandma’s Christmas Carols:
http://phishcoventry.blogspot.com/2010/12/background-beats-xmas-untz-edition-2010.html
for what it's worth, I love my grandma's christmas carols
bing crosby and the andrews sisters: all day for the next month
Mele Kalikimaka .... to you
that said, I think the Crosby and Bowie duet should be required viewing in order to preserve the 20th Century for future generations.
that and Porky Pig’s Blue Christmas. maybe some Chanukah Song to be fair.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXjbI3kRus
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i forgot there was a Beatles meme in there, hahaha.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
VEB dead hour.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 6:16 PM EST reply actions
So, was everyone stopped from commenting for a few minutes here?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:36 PM EST reply actions
i was
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
OT: News Flash!
682 series today.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:36 PM EST reply actions
What is that?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
It's a score
that I got using a 15 lb. ball that I roll toward 10 wooden sticks, called pins. I try to knock all of them down at once. Thank GOBs that they are placed in such a way that I can, on occasion, do this. If they were lined up in a straight line, either head on or across, it would be much, much harder to get this kind of score.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
i thought the highest possible score was 300?
is a series three games or something?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
series is 3 frames
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
No, this is wrong.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
meant games dammit
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well,
they do rhyme.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Congratulations BTW good on you!
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks.
Keep getting close to either a 300 game or a 700 series. Have none of the former, only one of the latter in my life. Avg. is up to 195, though.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
I haven't bowled actively for years, but that's a pretty respectable average
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
Three games.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
VEB ... Very funny
thought OT meant overtime and you might be referring to some for of overseas based balls or something
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously?
Can’t tell, sarcasm detector on the fritz again…
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
No sarky. I did think your answer was very funny ... kudo's. Y2S might give you a merit badge later
He’s been doing that lately
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that's my tops, too. Have done it twice in the last 2 years, once in the city tournament.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
I got my Mitchell and Ness 44' Musial Jersey today
It’s pretty cool…thanks VEB for pointing out sale to me…don’t remember who though bu thanks
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I think it was orginally TC or RR
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
You are probably right ... Thanks TC and RR!
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
and I still haven't got mine.
damnit.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I called yesterday
They gave me priority shipping
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
I have a nice phone voice
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
I believe AI will contact them tomorrow.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I believe RR deserves the credit for that.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 30, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Then thanks again to RR then
BTW you have several M&N jersey’s right? I didn’t see a what they are constructed of tag in mine, are they wool or heavy cotton and what are your suggestions on cleaning? Dry cleaning and if you wash them what’s shrinkage factor like?
Also, it has a yellowish tint. Is that to replicate what they would look like 67 years on?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
nah someone else posted it before me.
I just harped on it a lot.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
M&N facebook post has a lot of unhappy customers on it
myself included
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
everyone look out....
scoot took his fight to the book of faces.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and twitter
and soon to be over the phone. If that doesn’t satisfy me, I may just drive to Philadelphia.
facebook link, for your entertainment.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
It was
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 1, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
YOU CANNOT PROVE...
Oh, that.
Yeah, that was me.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
no, no, no
you tell us you taught your dog to type, and blame the dog.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Maybe you can explain, then,
why my commenting ability was turned off for a few minutes?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Can you fix yesterday's thread then?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Never mind it's working, must have been the same thing that affected this thread...guess the who site
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
You are magical! Stay in the SBN offices from now on
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Go kick some one in the knee and tell them to fix search.
Please.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
dan is there, just tell him to fix it with his magical powers
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
how many people work at the SBN offices?
2011 wOBA: Brendan Ryan .291, Aaron Miles .291
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Nov 30, 2011 7:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dodgers collect more scrubs....
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/dodgers-reach-agreement-with-adam-kennedy.html
As MLBTR’s free agent tracker shows, Dodgers GM Ned Colletti has committed about $15MM so far this offseason to free agents Mark Ellis, Juan Rivera, Matt Treanor, and Kennedy.
I’d much rather spend $14MM on a really good player and fill in with others. This squad has no upside….and it’s not like Kershaw and Kemp are going to have better years next year.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 30, 2011 6:43 PM EST reply actions
Can you tell that Colletti used to work under Sabean?
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment." -- Woody Allen
Wild - "Coors Field, which opened in 1995, will be the third-oldest ballpark in the National League next season."
what's older?
dodger, turner, wrigley
and we won the world series.
by YesWeOquendo on Nov 30, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
dodger and wrigley
turner is not.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Wrigley by far the oldest
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
But which stadium has most recently hosted the greatest WS game of all-time as well as a home team Game 7 win as well as a post-parade party ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Give me a minute ……………………….
Cardinals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
busch III has been open for 5 seasons.
and already has seen two world series championships.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
And just this year the Cardinals broke the "they suck in odd decades" and no WS drought
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, seriously.
First time since the 20’s-30’s-40’s that the Cards have won a WS in consecutive decades. Guess I’ll join in, since I’ve never done this, and since I idiotically called for a ban on this meme….
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO000000000000000000000OOOOOOOOOO
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Glad to have you in the fold!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Also clinched.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Yeah, when I think of clenching
something else comes to mind. But, it is apparently a synonym for clinch.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Things were clenched during the clinching.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
this is a meme, people.
just don’t post the pictures which came with the meme. and it did eventually lead to avocado.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
six but yeah
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
2006 2007 2008 2009 20010 2011
ugh. i always make that mistake. 6+5=11. stupid math.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
were you told there would be no math?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
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"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
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"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
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"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't know why, I love these
of course, I am a failed math major.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i made that mistake quite often until recently.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Don't know about "like" but I don't mind them
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Not my thing
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
My four month old nephew must be a real man then
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
if peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
probably not...
but Real Men of Genius have no problem with peeing in the sink, in a pinch.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
They have those at Wrigley
YOU MUST BE A SECRET CUBS FAN! GET HIM!
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Was it on Japanese TV? Then probably so
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
A SPY!
AHHHHHH!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
we used to have those in grade school
I’ve seen a few in dive bars over the years. It’s always amusing to walk in a see one.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 30, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Probably cheaper for owners as they probably use less water, or almost no water if judged by some places I've been in
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
I need to clarify that the ones in the bars
were actually 12 inch PVC cut in half with aluminum flashing as a splatter guard and everything was sealed with Liquid Nailz. These were not high class joints I was frequenting at the time.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 30, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Sound pretty bottom of the gutter ... the ones I'm talking about were 20 gallon drums split in half ... also bottom of the gutter and more old timey
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn't exactly bottom of the gutter
but they sure wouldn’t be confused with the lounge at the Ritz.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 30, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Well I was being harsh with the descriptors I guess
What a lot of people call bottom of gutter I feel pretty comfortable with … I’m kind of old timey myself. Also, people are usually real and pretty welcoming in places I’ve frequented with trough urinals
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
I've been in bars where you felt safer taking a piss outside.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Oh crap!
I forgot to message you about the cards, didn’t I? I got it fixed on Monday, there was something wrong with one of the connections outside.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
I've been in bards where I felt safer not taking a piss
Is this oneupsmanship going on here?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
theres one in a dive bar in effingham i go to occasionally
and it always smells worse than a regular bathroom
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
What, did they run out of the effing turkey for Thanksgiving?
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
quick but weak
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Ichabods?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
nope not Ichabods, never had a good time there
its that dive across the street from Martin’s, I forget the name
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
heh.
There was also an Ichabod’s in Flora. That was always an interesting time.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 30, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
I always liked the fried mushroom at Ichabod's in Effingham, was right across the street from my Uncle Rex's shop ... "Bill's Tire Sales"
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
I've never been to the one in Eff.
I always figured it was just like the one in Flora. A friend of mine used to manage it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Just a tavern really
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Dec 1, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
fenway?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Fenway
is the home of the Boston Red Sox. Bahston is in the junior circuit – American League. You may recall we were scheduled to play them in the 2004 World Series. Too bad that one got canceled.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
But that's not important right now
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
didn't see the nl designation.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
kinda related...Most World Series titles in current stadium
http://www.sporcle.com/games/kingmob91/mlb-most-world-series-titles-in-current-stadium
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Goddammit, Marlins

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
put a skinny tie and some boat shoes on 'em and i'd think it were you.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 30, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That would be a better mascot, too

They could call him “Fin-bad”
by mattybobo on Nov 30, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
looks like he raided Sager's closet
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 30, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
was
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 30, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
That is ridiculous! Should we go commiserate with our friends at Fishstripes?
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Ice Ice Billy.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Mind blowing factoid of the day:
Clint Barmes’ $10.5 million contract is the first eight figure deal handed out by the Pittsburgh Pirates since they signed Steve Beuchele in 1991.
Sign Roy O
little known fact:
this was also yesterday’s mind blowing fact.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Mind is
double blown
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
M2B
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Should bring them the same return for their investment
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Anyone know what a 503 error is. took like forever to get on this this morning..
by Tuning in from Korea on Nov 30, 2011 8:22 PM EST reply actions
It involves Jackie Chan
And issues with SBN’s servers.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
dan is trying to fix the search function down at the SBN offices and had a little ... oops moment
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
reply fail
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
x2
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
What about bacon?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I was answering Tuning in from Korea ya know
Anyone know what a 503 error is. took like forever to get on this this morning..
by Tuning in from Korea on Nov 30, 2011 7:22 PM CST reply actions
also, dan should make us bacon
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
ahhhh IC.. thought it might have been something on this side of the world..
by Tuning in from Korea on Nov 30, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
not to worry same thing happened here a few times already, dan is kind of clumsy with the internet tools
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
And won't give us collapsible threads.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
We have an edit button ... it's to the left of the "POST" button
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, trust me
The Preview button has reduced the amount of embarrassing errors I would normally be making. But it’s not the same.
Just Say No EDIT Button.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
if it had the "edited" autocomment
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Still no.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I'm for this this
And even though I FU quite often by not properly utilizing the preview button myself, I think we leave the threads raw … it’s just good fun
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
i had a dream that veb got collapsible threads
even my dreams are lame
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Without my daily reading of VEB, i go stir crazy or feel like something is off kilter.
by Tuning in from Korea on Nov 30, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
I know the feeling
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, there's a pretty big pile of stuff to read
on a day when nothing much happened.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 30, 2011 8:38 PM EST reply actions
Plenty of bizarre subthreads today.
Tread carefully.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
or someone could give an entirely fake summary
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Dan has been screwing around down at the SBN offices today and it wreaked havoc on the interwebs and VEB
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
...
Rollins
Valentine
Winter Meetings
Hot English acting chicks
And some other stuff.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Twitter has informed me of BaseballWives
I am not sure if this is a good thing.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
tell me more about this BasedballWives you speak of
teh he
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Gonna let Keith Law speak about it...
@keithlaw
keithlaw
I think it’s cute that some of you thought you needed to watch “Baseball Wives” to determine that it was awful
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I meant "BaseballedWives"
Different show perhaps
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
My mother told me it was awful.
Then she told me I did not want to marry David Freese because I didn’t want to end up like them. The she told me Nyjer’s ex girlfriend is on there and then I said and my point that I will not end up like them is made.
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OT: I don't know if anyone watches Castle
but the sniper episode is about as stupid as it gets. No spoilers though I’m not done yet.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
it was a bit over the top
but i like the show
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Nov 30, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Hey everyone
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by mysterui on Nov 30, 2011 10:16 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I think the cards owe some teams some fruit baskets
the marlins, braves, and phillies all come to mind.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
#thetradeworked
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
That ... was ... AWESOME!
11 in '11, Check.
12 in 12, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 30, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
that was a ridiculous day of baseball.
does it get any better than that?
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
Game 6 of the World Series :)
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truf
can you imagine being on the otherside of that game? I’m pretty sure I might have quit baseball after that.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
Especially having just lost the World Series the year before
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done seen it, brih
watched it again. wasn’t disappoint. missin’ based balls
by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Congrats on the job btw
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thanks, i'm excited
it’s gonna be a busy spring semester, but having this job is going to greatly increase my chances of being able to study in barcelona next summer, which is awesome
by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
That's 12 minutes of my life I won't get back
Which is ok by me. Thanks Mister Rui
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 30, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Rui will appreciate this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckbdLVX736U
I love the strings.
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Roughly 1000 of those views are mine
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at 3 minutes in he does a little lou reed impression
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
First stanza has always been my favorite
The fourth the fifth, the minor fall, the major lift
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by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
I've been meaning to listen to his solo work
He has like 30 albums. Where should I start?
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Hallelujah is a weird song.
It’s the only song I can think of that could have a really legitimate debate about which of two great renditions of it is the best version, and neither of the two candidates are the original.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Dec 1, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Hey Joe
Jimi and Nick Cave. Although that was a public domain song I think, so maybe it’s not a good comparison.
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Hmm.
That’s a decent example. Personally, as much as I adore Nick Cave, I don’t feel his version of Hey Joe holds a candle to Jimi Hendrix’s, but that’s really beside the point. The fact someone is making the argument and it isn’t totally ridiculous means the example is at least somewhat instructive.
There are probably a fair number of songs like that if you go back far enough (St. James Infirmary comes to mind), but so many are public domain offerings like you said. I specifically mean songs where the original was at least somewhat contemporary, as in we know who did the original because it’s on a record.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Dec 1, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
Have you heard this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmuGAP8iCuM
With Charlie Haden and Toots Thielemans (??).
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I had not before.
That is rather awesome, though.
I’ll still take Hendrix’s version, I think, if only because there are times in that performance when I want Cave to emphasize the melody a bit more, and not be quite as impressionistic in his interpretation. It’s both one of his greatest strengths and failings, really, and in roughly equal measure I think.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Dec 1, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think you're right that it doesn't really hold a candle to Jimi's version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_n_P40sEaM
Has to be the best live performance ever, what with the eating out of the guitar, the tongue flicks and the guitar thrusts.
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It's on a very, very short list, to be sure.
That’s something I’ve never tried to come up with a list of, come to think of it. Best Live Performances, either single song or whole show. That’s a tough one, honestly, as I don’t actually listen to a ton of live recordings. Hmm…
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Dec 1, 2011 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
Are you talking John Cale vs Jeff Buckley?
I might prefer kd lang’s version to either
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Rufus Wainwright not in the mix?
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I hated kd lang's version.
And everything else she’s ever done. You want to see an impressive display of vitriol, just get me talking about kd lang sometime.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Dec 2, 2011 4:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is the best version of that song
A different John Cale version is on the scrubs soundtrack and is awesome
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 1, 2011 11:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
People are really shitty writers these days
I’m editing journal articles by literally the smartest people (top 5%) in the class below mine, a class of 300, and it’s like nobody ever taught them basic composition. How do you edit when everything is wrong and your only urge is to throw the whole article in the garbage?
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
my high school teachers would make me rewrite if I broke their cardinals rules of paper writing
Just like three times. I almost never use passive voice and will avoid using they in a paper at all costs, among other things
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by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Passive voice isn't always wrong
I don’t why teachers bitch about that so much.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
In normal prose, maybe not
but you shouldn’t use it in formal scholarly writing, which is what I’m editing.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
eek, good luck. is this law review? i had to do that.
it was like somehow everyone lived the first 25-30 years of their lives without ever learning the distinction between passive and active voice.
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2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
Right, but its generally awkward
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by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
and just generally confusing too
all over this paper, there’s shit like “it was established” and “it was considered.”
…… By fucking whom, may I ask?
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
That's passive voice?
I will never send you anything I wrote.
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by ClemsonGirl on Nov 30, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Never mind.
I thought about it and now I understand. I was just confused without the real subject put at the end.
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by ClemsonGirl on Nov 30, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
hah, I'm probably a bit more nazi-like than necessary about it
but only because I’ve had the misfortune of handing in drafts that use the passive voice to partners at a law firm. They will bite your fucking head off for for that, I found out.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
makes sense
liability and whatnot
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
truth.
they would rather you get drunk in your office than write once sentence in passive voice.
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They have established that it is better to be drunk in one's office
than for one to write in the passive voice
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
no.
the partners prefer that you get drunk in your office rather than write in the passive voice.
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it has been proven that it is better to for one to write in the
passive voice if one wants an english professor to pass you.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
are you deliberately trying to write in the passive voice
i thought you were doing the opposite at first
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I was just teasing
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I think there are some subjects where it's more appropriate to use passive voice
Of course you should always name the subject.
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
its is almost always wrong
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2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
funny you should mention that
I mean, there are errors of every kind, but one of the editees wrote almost her entire 15 page draft in the passive voice. It was driving me crazy.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
If this person is older than 17 I would not accept it
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by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Passive voice drives me insane too
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by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
VEB! Wher ehave you gone it's only midnight here!
What’s going on?
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It's past their bedtimes
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by Notorious PSC on Nov 30, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
They gots to get up early tomorrow
crap so do i
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by vivaelpujols on Nov 30, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
i'm browsing cars in craigslist
i don’t think my car will handle an hour commute every day for too long
by prophetjohn on Nov 30, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Well the passive voice discussion up there certainly isn't going to entertain me when I take study breaks.
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maybe you should request an unnecessary pic spamming.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That could work.
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someone get the alison brie gifs!
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by vivaelpujols on Dec 1, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Did someone say puppies?

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by Notorious PSC on Dec 1, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ahhhhhhh!
They’re so happy!
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I'm here, what should we talk about?
I made a sock puppet (actual sock being used as a puppet) as a joke if that will start a subthread.
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Use it to hit on women at bars
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by Notorious PSC on Dec 1, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
that's not something I like admitting by the way.
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Why?
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theatre project for lit class
I made a joke one day to my group that we should do the scenes with sock puppets, they objected to the idea immediately, but I said I would do it anyways. Well… this is just for shock value when they see the puppet they’ll laugh and I love making people laugh.
I probably won’t do the scenes with it though, eh… maybe.
/i’m weird.
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EH....
I mean to pick up women at bars…AHHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
/all respect lost from VEBers.
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Stay fink!
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Only until I finish editing thing author questionnaire!
Alternative answer: I’ll stay fink 4eva!
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I don't know.
Are you sick? You should talk to scoot.
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"don't leave me here with CodyG"
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HAHAHA MEoW

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by CodyG on Dec 1, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why are they cooking the cat?
Were they fooled by his clever disguise?
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maybe the cat is really depressed
who knows?
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maybe his business venture of selling funny hats door to door didn't pay off
his entire inventory caught on fire because there was an electric wiring problem in his garage (he couldn’t afford an electrician)
he lost his house, he and his wife and two kids were force to move in his mother in law
his mother in law who hates him by the way, and thinks he’s a loser convinced his wife to kick him to the curve, and he was forced to live on the streets.
She wouldn’t let him see the kids either, and when she remarried she gave each of them her new husband’s last name.
He drank himself into a slobbering fool, experimenting from time to time with drugs just to take the edge off, and he was left a bag of lipids and proteins without a single thought or glimpse of hope.
He had only $6 in change and went to the local goodwill to buy a costume to fool the fisherman, and he did just that!
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It's to the curb, not curve.
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accept it for what it is
a bunch of words mashed together as a quick attempt at humor.
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11 in 11
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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LOLZ
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I'm awake.
And sort of not doing anything. What would you like to talk about?
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Dec 1, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Well I'm about to call it a night.
Having finished one final tonight and made significant progress on another part of another project I feel like I should sleep some.
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I see.
So you just wasted my time, is that what you’re telling me?
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Dec 1, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
Well you waited over an hour to respond...so really you wasted your own time.
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I responded in a very timely manner, by my standards.
So there.
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
by the red baron on Dec 1, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you can only deduct passive losses when...
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 12:28 AM EST reply actions
So the Rockies traded Chris Iannetta for Tyler Chatwood
and signed Ramon Hernandez to a 2/6.25 deal
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
ok deal I think, I mean Chatwood probably should be in the minors still, but it sure helps build that
pitching depth really quickly with these trades.
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Yeah the Rockies have a lot of prospects/starters in the system now
DeLarosa should be back after the break from TJ he is 30 next year, Hammel fell off last year is 29, and Chacin(24), White(23), Pomeranz(23), Nicasio(25), Chatwood(22), Gardner(24), Houston(24), Friedrich(24), Bettis(22), Cabrera(23) will all be competing for 5 rotation spots next year
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I'd trade some of that depth
also, I really want Cabrera in the cardinals farm…
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he and Bettis really put up some big numbers last year
Bettis had a 184/45 K/BB ratio and Cabrera had a 217/41 K/BB. That list above didn’t include Matzek who looked like a different pitcher after reworking his mechanics, Tyler Anderson who was their 1st Rounder this year, Peter Tago who is still highly regarded talentwise, or Nelson Gonzalez who is the next big thing from the latin program
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
It's pretty good depth to build on, hopefully the rockie fans get used to TINSTAPP though
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I think the hope is that 5 of the 15 turn out to be above average or at least average
Arenado is what has me psyched in that system. Trevor Story and Rosell Herrera are right behind him in getting me geeked for the next 8-9 years
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Don't you have a CF that OPS'd like .900 in AAA too?
Wheeler I’ve kept my eye on just because of the dramatic rise in power, there’s honestly too many for me to keep track of though.
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Blackmon had a ,965 OPS in AAA(PCL WARNING APPLIES)
Wheeler set a Tulsa record in AA with 35 HR
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I don't know what it is with Chatwood, he can throw 97, but his K/9 is 4
and his K/BB was almost one, he needs more seasoning.
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O, She Says (by Hailey Leithauser)
O, she says (because she loves to say O)
O to this cloud-break that ravels the night,
O to this moon, its mouthful of sorrow,
O shallow grass and the nettle burr’s bite,
O to heart’s flare, its wobbly satellite,
O step after step in stumbling tempo,
O owl in oak, O rout of black bat flight,
(O moaned in Attic and Esperanto)
O covetous tongue, O fat fandango,
O gnat tango in the hot, ochered light,
O wind whirred leaves in subtle inferno,
O flexing of sea, O stars bolted tight,
O ludicrous swoon, O blind hindsight,
O torching of bridges and blood boiled white,
O sparrow and arrow and hell below,
O, she says, because she loves to say O.
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needs a W
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 1, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I should have put it as a WOOOO continuation. Also, VEB can bite me.
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by a fink on Dec 1, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
$50 and some beer and food to mine.
until friday.
i fail at teh subjunctive
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 1, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
$34 and a five pack to my name.
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$60 and about .5 grams to my name.
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Pluck / plucky just isn't used often enough to describe bad baseball players.
We need to expand our grit vocabulary. I feel like there’s a whole range of adjectives that we’re not taking advantage of here.
#HappySeason
Gutsy,
game, persevering, spirited, spunky, tenacious, undaunted, valiant ??
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
On a related note, somebody (possibly Y2S, can't remember)
used “rakishness” while talking about Lance Berkman. That was a good word to use also. He does have a rakish quality which is charming.
Heath Bell is nearing a deal with an unknown team
presumably a baseball team
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 1, 2011 1:28 AM EST reply actions
not necessarily
I see Oreo Double Stuff league having a pretty good shot here
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I heard he might join a knee sliding league instead
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 1, 2011 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
Unknown team ?
The guys with paper bags on their heads ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
My unnamed sources tell me it'
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didn't they just sign a closer
i can’t remember who i just remember the conclusion being drawn that feliz was finally moving to the rotation
Nathan ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Dec 1, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
Mike adams should be the closer if I had a say.
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Joe Nathan
the 37 year old who struggled last year.
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But is he plucky?
I don’t think he’s plucky.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Dec 1, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
what we really need is transcripts of the old, old radio calls
the stuff they came up with on the fly was amazing
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
whenever I do myself a favor I'm usually filled with regret and shame
Will this have the same effect?
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by CodyG on Dec 1, 2011 1:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You can masturbate to this song if you want,
but I prefer to just listen.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
this thread is now soiled.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Dec 1, 2011 10:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This thread? VEB itself is a towel standing in the corner
of a teenager boys room, leaning up against the wall.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Hi.
Welcome to the internet. I can tell you are new here.
PS – VEB is the cleanest of the populated SBN sites. For real.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Might we get an overflow, please Mr.Robot,sir?
this thing’s at almost 1400.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 1, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
no
Let’s ride this bitch into the ground.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Dec 1, 2011 11:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
don't talk about dogs like that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Let's ride this queen into the ground.
(I think queen is the term for a female cat, please don’t hate me people it was just a joke)
really? I never knew that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Don't know if you saw my comment the other day,
but, heh.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I did.
I laughed while playing “We are the Champions” in the background.
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Umm Lookout Landing probably has you beat they damn near ban for OT
but VEB is a great place
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
And yet they still manage to make terrible, crude jokes more frequently than us.
Also, watch out for the OT threads.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
meh I prerfer not to risk banning for poor punctuation
and I rarely find the Mariners aren’t interesting enough for me to spend to much time there.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
This is for a fink:
I was at a liquor store buying some birthday presents for my dad, and I discovered the secret truth behind our confusion about Aventinus. Regular Aventinus is a wheat doppelbock, about 8% alcohol. There is also, however, an Aventinus weizen eisbock, which is an “ice” version created with some partial freezing, and is stronger and more intense. I bought a 16 oz. of the former and a 12 oz. of the latter and look forward to trying both. Yum.
I also became somewhat embarrassed when I discovered a simple explanation on Wikipedia. I should have done that instead of trying their official website, which of course is in German.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
If the Cardinals are able to re-sign the three-time MVP and keep him at first base for years to come, Adams will get opportunities to prove he can play the outfield.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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for some outfielders, the warning track is there to let them know the wall is coming
with Matt Adams, the warning track will be there to let the wall know he is coming.
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You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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