Tony La Russa Is Still Retired Overflow Thread
by bgh on Nov 1, 2011 6:30 PM EDT
Email
Print
It's just about us as an organization. I mean, this one is just different. It was really hard and it was different. As I said a couple days ago, it's like your favorite dog, favorite cat. They're just different. They're still your favorites.- Tony La Russa on winning the 2011 World Series
909 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I can see it in your eyes
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 1, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I can feel it in your touch
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 1, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I've thought about it for a long, long time
by purple_haze on Nov 1, 2011 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe I think too much but something
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 1, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I think too much but something's wrong
There’s something here that doesn’t last too long
(this sort of dates us, doesn’t it?)
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 1, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
My name is Elder Price.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 2, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
HI ANDY
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I can't believe that the Cardinals didn't pick up Corey Patterson's option!!!???!!!???!?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 1, 2011 6:39 PM EDT reply actions
I can't believe Corey Patterson
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
by Aranathor on Nov 1, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ever made AA.
I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.
was a first round draft pick.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Nov 1, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, didn't know that.
That might be the most implausible detail of this whole sordid story.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Nov 2, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I ordered my World Series merchandise from the Fox Sports Midwest website on Saturday.
It still has not shipped. Did I make a mistake?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I got some Majestic stuff that wasn't available on MLB.com this weekend.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 1, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone have a link for the stein that has the postseason game W-L on it?
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
I bought it.
It’s available at the Fox Sports Midwest store, if not MLB.com.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 1, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, thanks.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
I ordered some stuff from MLB.com Saturday, and the first item just shipped today.
Still apparently waiting on the shirt to arrive in the warehouse, even though the damn website said “in stock”…and still does. The order tracking, however, says “Special Item…awaiting inventory arrival”
Damn Liars. Grrrrr.
by RollBirdsRoll on Nov 2, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
no
Order would have been processed yesterday at the earliest. I’d venture to guess that a lot of people order their stuff on sunday/monday. Did the guarantee next day shipping?
Grit != flat out sucking.
I did not guarantee next day shipping because I didn't think I needed to do so.
I assume that their shop (or warehouse) hasn’t even received some of the merchandise yet.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 1, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Look down to my reply fail.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 1, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure about the sports stores where you are but Hibbet Sports
In Washmo has hats in stock
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 1, 2011 6:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd say you're fine.
You actually ordered from fastballfanatics.com/teamfanshop.com…they fulfill the FSMW orders (Same website with a FSMW skin) and a lot of the championship stuff is noted as special item and shipping as soon as they get it.
I have the same issue with MLB.com, except they say it’s in stock…At least FSMW/FF is upfront about the shipping dates as far as I can tell.
by RollBirdsRoll on Nov 2, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, you should only order from FESPShop!
Which is what I did, for some idiotic reason. Only after I ordered did I get an email telling me that this was an “advance” sale item, and as such, I would have to wait until the item was in. This, despite telling me when I first ordered it that I would likely get it late this week. F*in’ ESPN.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 1, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
I'm so mad
I reply failed!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 1, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
A fun read on Fangraphs:
The Most Impactful Plays of the Postseason
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
more from FG
series win probability. The accompanying graph is exceedingly sexy.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
That looks pretty similar to the season's playoff probability
also, the low point of the series came on a Theriot strikeout.
by David201 on Nov 1, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In impactful play No. 9, Roberts' grand slam, what does this mean?
The D-backs had hit grand slams in each of the first three games of the National League Division Series — surely that streak would end in Game 4, right? Wrong.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
I think the actual streak was
the DBs hit GSs in 4 consec games at home, not games in the DS.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
Tyler Greene
…any chance we actually see him at shortstop next year? Even if one of Westbrook/Lohse gets traded, I have a VERY difficult time seeing the club make payroll with Pujols if Furcal gets signed.
Or they could increase payroll beyond 110, I guess.
With no TLR to bench Greene, though, I think it might make sense to try a MIF of Greene-Descalso
Tyler Greene will be on the roster for sure
I’m in favor of an infield with Furcal at SS and Greene at 2B (with Descalso getting some time at 2B against RHP; I’d be OK with a straight platoon but wouldn’t prefer it).
I think the team would really have to be short on money to go with a Greene/Descalso MIF. And if they’re that short on money, I’m guessing I hate the Pujols contract that made them that short.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 1, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm estimating Pujols at 27m AAV
Even the most minimalist of bullpens is going to cost 3.5m
Waino/Carp/Garcia/Westbrook/#5 is another 32 (I’m factoring in having to eat some of Lohse’s salary/pay him to waive the NTR)
Holliday is 17
Berkman 12
Molina 7
…that’s already 71.5, and the team already burned 1.5 million cutting Furcal and Dotel loose.
So now you’re at 73 million. Pujols puts you at 100.
You now have 10 million with which to field a 3b, SS, 2b, CF, backup C, backup OFs, backups IFs, a manager.
Yikes.
I'd probably disagree with some of this.
A manager’s salary doesn’t count – even if it does, we’re saving quite a bit there over TLR’s 2011 salary.
27 AAV is too much for Pujols; no way we pull the trigger on that, IMO.
I don’t think anyone from the starting rotation will be traded.
Relatively easy to pay minimally for the extra spots and bullpen – 3b – Freese (min), CF – Jay (min), INF – Greene (min), C -Cruz (min), INF – Descalso (min), OF – Chambers (min), OF – Craig (min), INF – M. Carp, bullpen – Lynn, Rzep, Boggs (arb 1), Salas, Sanchez, Motte (arb 1 – $1mm), Reifer/Dickson/FA LOOGY (all min or close to it).
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 1, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It's going to be >= 25 AAV
I can’t see him taking Ryan Howard money.
…nevermind the fact that the Ryan Howard contract is a hideous abomination…
If he requires >25M for longer than 5 years
The Cardinals should no longer be in the Albert Pujols business.
Not afraid to nitpick
i'd give him the Ryan Howard contract
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Give him 6/180 and backload it to make the npv
something like 150. That way he gets to have the highest npv and the Cardinals get a reasonable contract.
by guayzimi on Nov 1, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this.
i’m still putting 7/175 on the table and telling him to take it or leave it.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 1, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless it's for like 3 years
I still don’t totally understand players demanding long term deals at the cost of AAV. Wouldn’t a guy like Pujols, who I am sure is impossibly confident in himself, rather get 3/90 this year, banking he could get 3/90 3 years from now?
Not afraid to nitpick
guaranteed money.
lots and lots and lots can happen in three years. if he gets tragically hurt and/or loses tons of production, he’s going to cost himself down the line. if he signs long term now, he gets that money no matter what. it’s too big a risk.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 1, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
eh, I don't mind
That’s a pretty arbitrary cutoff.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I thought it was 5 guaranteed years with a vesting option for year six?
The tweets describing it were confusing, though.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Costas brought up in his TLR interview
that equity deals are kosher under the CBA. Some combination of deferred salary + vesting equity (upon retirement) could bring his effective salary under 25 mil.
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
by Reynolds rapper on Nov 2, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
They should increase payroll this year
With the added WS revenue they have no excuse IMO. I would love for them to trade Westbrook or Lohse though.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
also, it'll be fairly easy to shed payroll heading into 2013
with Lohse, Westbrook, and Puma cming off the books. Shelby should easily replace one of the starters, along with other possibilies like Lynn, Rzep, Cleto, Dickson, etc. Somebody can be a 5th starter, and the rest can be in the bullpen.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 1, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, they definitely should be willing to increase payroll for 1 year
I can’t wait to Westbrook and Lohse are replaced by Lynn and Rzep.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I don't think we'll see Rzep as a starter.
Maybe, but I see him as more of a Scott Downs-type long-term.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 1, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hope not
He was fantastic as a starter for 120 innings in the AL East – I certainly think we should give him a chance. I could easily see him turning into a Jaime quality starter.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
He actuallly reminds me of Jaime - not so much mechanics, but the velocity and movement of his pitches.
I think he could start. Maybe he’ll be up for the 5th starter role in 2013 behind Waino, Miller, Carp, and Garcia.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 1, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree about his stuff
Hopefully he won’t be pidgeonholded as a reliever.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Carp is only signed thru 2013 as well
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
yup
keeping Pujols in terms of yearly payroll, next year could very well be the only really troubling season for the owners. In light of extra revenue from the WS and the fact that they should be saving at least 2-3 million on the manager, there’s no reason they can’t temporarily increase payroll in 2012 to keep a transcendent player. I don’t think a hard payroll will be the issue with keeping Albert.
After 2012 the team would save ~20 mil with Lohse and Westbrook replaced by some combination of Miller, Lynn, Rzep (my vote would be Miller and Rzep and keep Lynn as a high leverage reliever). Another 12 mil would be saved if they don’t keep Berkman or if he retires and Craig replaces him full time.
I fear the issue will be contract length. Can the team really give Albert ~25mil/yr for 8-10 years? That will look terrible after say 5 years. Will he even consider something at a more reasonable length, like 6-7 years? I’d give him 1-2 mil/yr more if I could knock a couple years off of the total length.
11 in '11!! To Infinity and Beyond!!! ...
I think he's gotten the best offer he's going to get from us.
It’ll just depend on what offers he gets from other clubs. I’m really not seeing them breaking the bank to keep him.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
i took a break from the thread for a few days
and i soaked in the victory and reflected on tony’s accomplishments and our 2011 season, now i realize how hard Mo’s job is…he’s gotta get back to work asap
i like being a fan much more…less stress
maybe tony is on to something retiring on top..maybe i should retire as a cardinal fan because no way my investment is ever paid off higher for following this 2011 championship team! o well i’ll tlake a mediocre championship ws win next year
by guillermozeliak on Nov 2, 2011 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions
TLR on with Costas now
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Why walk away now?
A lot of things just came together. The difficulty doing the job. I’ve been convinced that changing the look of the St. Louis Cardinals would be good for that franchise.
Was it just starting to wear on you?
I talked to Red. There are differences today than when he managed that take the fun out of the job.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Is health and age a part of it?
I feel great. I can’t wait to go to work, whatever that turns out to be. But there’s wear and tear that comes with the job. Just… enough’s enough.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Come spring training, I think my dugout time is done.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Could you do something with the Cardinals?
I think it would be a disservice to whoever comes next to still be there.
Could you be a GM?
The General Manager job is one of the toughest in baseball. My family is in California and we’re not moving.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
He keeps bringing up opening a bookstore.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
When you told the team, what was the reaction?
Good riddance. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. (joking, of course)
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Did you feel at all like you had lost any focus or sharpness?
If you’re going to lose focus or sharpness, it’s because it’s not as important to you any more. Internally, it was just the same as it always had been.
Game 5, What happened?
We had a real weapon in Mark, um Zep (I still can’t pronounce it). Mason didn’t hear, or I paused and it’s my fault.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
You can delay if a guy is throwing, but you can't delay if he's sitting.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I've heard complaints from other AL managers about the bullpen phones there.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Costas- Tony is always going to protect his guys, he's going to take the blame. Is that what you're doing.
If it isn’t performance on the field, if it’s a mix up, then it’s my reprehensibility.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Um, responsibility.
He’s not that reprehensible.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I'm guessing he said responsbility...
it’d be awesome if he said “reprehensibility” though.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 1, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, that was my fault.
Also, most of these aren’t direct quotes. I’m not fast enough for that. I’m paraphrasing as best I can.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Tony is tough to transcribe live
he mumbles a little, mangles words, and I don’t think he’s a natural public speaker anyway.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
by nota bene on Nov 1, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Plus that lawyerin' training makes him evasive when he wants to be.
But you’re not quite sure if he’s being evasive until he’s well into his response.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you did a great job!
- the only other thing i honed in on was tony saying “albert is very aware of his status in history in STL” in response to costas’ question about whether albert realizes that the equity he has built in this city can not be duplicated.
- also, i thought it was funny when he showed tony the “mastermind” cover and equated it to “putting a cross in front of dracula”
by westsidecards on Nov 1, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Yeah, I kind of skipped the part with the magazine.
I was eating, plus I had no idea how to transcribe it or distill it into something readable.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that status thing is worth a lot.
here’s hoping pujols realizes it. albert is, to put it kindly, a bit prickly when criticized.
there’s no better place than STL for him to spend his decline phase. he’ll be happier, even if somewhat less rich.
by Pegasus on Nov 1, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Will you have input into the next manager?
I’ll help if I’m asked, but they’re on top of it.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Will you advise Pujols?
I think St. Louis has the edge.
Do you think you being gone lessens the change that Pujols comes back?
No, I don’t. I wasn’t going to manage there for his whole contract anyway.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Is it legitimate for Pujols' opinion to be taken into account for the new manager?
Pujols is a smart baseball guy. I don’t think he’ll impose himself, but if he’s asked, he’ll give his opinion.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Was the White Sox decision to hire Ventura an indication that he knew you were done?
Jerry was one of the guys I talked to and I let him know that I was having thoughts about retiring.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
All Star Game?
When we one the NL pennant, one of the coaches said “We get to go to the ASG” and then I realized that I wouldn’t get to do it.
If Selig asked you to manage the ASG, would you do it?
If he thinks that’s the right thing to do, I’d do it.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Was Game 6 of the WS the greatest game you ever managed?
It was the most challenging, entertaining… Errors, then dramatics and heroics. Yeah, I would say it was.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Worst loss?
Game 5 NLCS 2002. After the loss of Jack and Kyle and my own personal trouble. When we got past the NLDS and were against the Giants I started to believe. It was meant to be.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
You've had more than a few detractors, do they have a point?
If they’re talking about overmanaging… if you make move you’re overmanaging, if you don’t make a move you’re undermanaging. You have to answer to your bosses and owner. If you can’t explain why you did something, then you’re just doing it to get attention.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
You, Bobby Cox, and Joe Torre all become eligible for HoF the same year.
(doesn’t want to talk about his HoF cred) Anytime you’re included with Bobby and Joe, it’s a privilege.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Man TC you did an excellent job capturing that interview!
TLR did not say it that eloquently in a normal and proper grammar sort of way. But you captured what he was saying perfectly.
BTW I’m not dissing TLR, I think he has about a 5 second tape delay in his head and is constantly self editing, skipping ahead and coming back, then disregarding the thought, and racing forward again.
Also Rec’d for the entire sub thread, I regret i have just one to give.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Again, I seem to have just given 2 rec'd simultaneously or
I’m psychically linked with someone else.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I rec'd the whole thing
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Nov 1, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you, everyone.
When I posted about it twice and got crickets, I presumed that most people wouldn’t be able to watch.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, I just got home. Thank you.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Nov 1, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, thanks.
Came home and took a nap so I missed it.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Nov 1, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
...
nice rec-whoring work
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Nov 1, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Still saving for retirement.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait you get money for rec's?
I shoulda tried harder. Gee Wally why is it so hard to know when to try hard?
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No,
gonna use them to build my retirement shanty.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
don't try trading them in for warm cookies
Y2S is a sneaky devil
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Nov 1, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn I was sure you would come back with a
Gee Beeve I don’t know etc. fill in the blanks
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorrrrrrrry, Mrs C
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are you mocking me? Are you mocking me?
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I tried to rec'd but just show's "loading"
Not sure what’s up, but “rec’d” anyway.
BTW there’s a flag and if that was me it was an accident.
Robot, if it was me it was an accident. Do not hold it against TC. Not that i thought you would after your thorough analysis.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heh, don't sweat it
SBN is being SBN. That issue has been happening a lot.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you've finally beat Shelby's adventure.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Nov 1, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Better than Bill and Ted's?
Or is it a negative meme? I hate to ask
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What? No.
I had a highly-rec’d stream of posts of Shelby’s grand adventure in some fanshot, or something. I don’t remember the title.
It’s not really a meme at all.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Nov 1, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sounds interestling tell me more
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you have reached your goal
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Nov 1, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just tryin' to help.
Besides, wasn’t that buried in an overflow fanshot after everyone left? If it had been on its own or in an active thread, it would have been much bigger.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i was trying to get off the page to the right TC
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are you looking at me?
Are you looking at me?
So we’ve made it to the very far right then..how much farther can we go? Or is this it? I’m scared we may fall of the edge!
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's just an old superstition.
The blog is a globe. It just looks flat from our perspective.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Heresy
Where is the stake, burn him!
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 2, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
It was very helpful.
I was the first to rec it!
Yeah, it was buried in a fanshot minor league gamethread consisting almost entirely of Cody and me. So, consisting entirely of Cody.
I’m amazed it got enough views to go green.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Nov 1, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do reply's get out of order over here?
It’s like the whole world was turned on it’s side and all the posts slid to bottom and you can’t tell what order they are in
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 2, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
So that's a yes then! Ha
I cracked it. Oh the thrill. But now I’m wondering if the next time I will have to do more right siding to get the same thrill and get hooked becase it get’s harder and harder and you cannot replicate that first high. I think I’m scared straight now. Wooow that was close. BTW…………WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 2, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Did know your WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO’s get truncated over here?
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 2, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
wait, did you say Cody?
sooooo…
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's where it's always gone.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't know why I thought differently
I thought it was to either the source, or Joe Pos’s tweet. But that’s in your profile. hm.
Still not a werewolf.
wait, Joe Pos had a tweet?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ah. sadly no.
i wanted to rub it but not too far in
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you guys aer killing me
my phone is goign to exxplode
by hr on Nov 2, 2011 12:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm pretty sure I made up 99% of the comments before your novel.
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
or right account
/goes back into hiding
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
i'm just going to interject and say
it’s really weird to see tony being frank since he no longer speaks on behalf of the team.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I have defintely noticed that
in the past few days.
He’s been a lot less instantly defensive when asked questions that he normally would have snapped at.
Of course, that could be a byproduct of winning the series.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Nov 1, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
it's an ad now
did you hear tony say “Albert will be more reasonable than people think”, or was i dreaming?
by westsidecards on Nov 1, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he definitely said that.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
happy dance!
i know it doesn’t mean anything, but i still wanna dance!
by westsidecards on Nov 1, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
My opinion of Tony has really skyrocketted these past few days
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Ive always been a fan of his
but yeah, he’s seemed more…human lately
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
all you guys reccing every last thing
you can issue merit badges too, y’know.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 1, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Fine.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Nov 1, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Also, googling merit badges leads to some very bizarre results
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
i'm just sayin' that's what they're for
if someone’s working their ass off
but it — the comment — is not something you necessarily agree/disagree about.
liveblogging generally covers that.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's like a manly pat on the shoulder.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what do we call anti-rec-whoring?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
is costas orange on your screen too? he looks alien right now
and yet tony looks normal
by westsidecards on Nov 1, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. Hadn't noticed.
They just went to commercial, or I’d check.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh... yeah. Fake tan, I guess?
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Hearing 20 minutes of analysis on a fumbled snap
That took place in a game between two teams who have no chance I winning the superbowl makes me miss baseball do hard.
Can we get a running clock on the front page counting the days till pitchers and catchers report?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 1, 2011 7:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
have you ever noticed while watching any NFL-based show on ESPN
that they have to interject the word “football” into a sentence 20 times? They never say “he caught the ball,” its always, “he caught the FOOTball,” “this was a great game of FOOTball” Its kinda annoying
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
They all take the longest possible way to say anything
The quarterback position. National Football League. Saint Louis Rams.
Not afraid to nitpick
Sam Bradford.
Number 8. From University of Oklahoma. Likes threesomes. And Imo’s Pizza. And unicorns.
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
104 days, 3 hours, 22 minutes, 28 seconds.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Nov 1, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Like sands through the hourglass
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
do. not. want.
a watched pot never boils….something…..hey, macaroni!!
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Nov 1, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
So, which cellphone should I get?
/ducks
Manchester City: 25 points, 8-0-1, 1st in EPL, +26 GD
Sergio Aguero: 9 G, 2 A
Edin Dzeko: 8 G, 2 A
by cardinalswsbound on Nov 1, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
What beer should I drink ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Nov 1, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
does this skinny tie go with these boat shoes?
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you think of navy blue pea jackets?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 1, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No. Thought this whole line of comments was just rerunning old memes from last year.
Or, at least, il rosso and TC seemed to be turning it into that, so I thought I’d jump in. Did I ruin it?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 1, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
no, not at all. I remember the heated pea coat argument from last year
I was just curious if it had been rehashed and I missed it.
Still not a werewolf.
As I remember the whole skinny tie and boat shoes argument.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 1, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait...
Now I just did.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Guys...David Freese on Ellen...I cried,
Also the boxers he got are, um, well, interesting.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
I really don't think he meant anything by it.
They just had similar situations and their parents handled it differently and he was just answering the question based on his experience.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
I think it's ambiguous
Freese might have just blurted it out, or that might really be what the rest of the clubhouse thought.
I’ve noticed that, since the WS, the players keep getting asked about how they pulled it off, and a number of them have mentioned “trades” in general, praising Mo, etc. Maybe I’m reading between the lines too much, but Freese’s comment makes me wonder.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
I really don't think he meant anything by it.
I feel like if he had wanted to say something about it he would have had the opportunity already. Maybe he feels like he can say it now because at the moment he can do no wrong but it doesn’t seem consistent with how he’s been handling everything.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
it's hard to say
if I had to guess, I think it was on purpose. However Freese strikes me as a bit of a space cadet sometimes (for example, I thought it was hilarious when he had nothing to say in his defense for missing his flight to LA….he denied he was partying, but he never actually explained why he missed the flight), which is why I think it’s ambiguous.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
by nota bene on Nov 1, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what I mean by it not being consistent.
I think he could have said it and subconsciously was thinking of Colby’s situation or had just been thinking of his situation more recently because of the trade earlier in the season and just said how he felt about that kind of situation.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Lance Berkman has already stated "he's a superstar"
What’s the discussion about?
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm confused.
This doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not anyone thinks Freese is a superstar…I don’t think.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Was some discussion about Freese, blank stare, goofy, etc.
If Lance Berkman proclaims Freese is a superstar dammit, he’s a superstar.
Actually CG thought you would be on board with that. I am anyway. I obviously didn’t explain it very well.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still confused.
He is clearly a superstar. And always has been.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
this "superstar" subthread is making me lol
by westsidecards on Nov 1, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I was cooperating but guess I'm not getting through here
Freese his a superstar. I respect and like Lance Berkman who confirmed it.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Again I’m cooperating here.
Out.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I still don't get it.
But I also just watched The New Girl and realized I can’t say the word with a straight face or in front of guys at all so maybe everything just went over my head.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Yeah, I agree.
It at least struck me as something that he’s thought about before, and has a clear opinion on. Hard to avoid thinking there’s not some backstory there.
I just didn't get that feel from it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
neither did i
the comment came up in the context of a discussion about how supportive his parents have been… that they were the only ones who supported his decision to drop bball even though he had a scholarship to Mizzou; and then they had to turn around and pay tuition. jay asked him if his dad was his coach, and specifically “was that good or bad”? david said it was great as a kid, but at a certain point coaches have to coach and “ya gotta let your dad be your dad”. i think that’s an honest, generic answer. i don’t know freese from adam, but he doesn’t strike me as the type of guy to send a subliminal, snarky message to an ex-teammate.
by westsidecards on Nov 1, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This is pretty much exactly how I feel.
I hope this doesn’t become blown out of proportion because I feel like it will be a blight on something that should just be fun and enjoyable for him.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Maybe Freese is much craftier that anyone gives him credit for
He is a patented Lance Berkman approved and anointed “Superstar” BTW, (I am not being sarcastic). I like me some Lance and Freeser.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I know Freese from Adam.
Adam’s much taller, and pitches better.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Nov 1, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I took me awhile to figure out that this must be an actual phrase.
It’s in a Miranda Lambert song and I just thought she meant the person didn’t know her from Adam Lambert…because they have the same last name.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
the original phrase is "you don't know me from adam"
by westsidecards on Nov 1, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought it was "you don't know me, joker".
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Nov 1, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what was in the song.
But I had never heard it before. I didn’t know it was a phrase until you used it here. ANd even then it took forever because I thought you meant Waino.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
I was so wanting to post some words in this thread right here
but I have elected against it…don’t have the energy, but still have that desire to cooperate
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammt guess I did after all
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You're confusing me so much tonight.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
let just call lit a tie and start over tomorrow
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this tie
skinny?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
No, but apparently it will still go well
with a pea coat. and deck shoes.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
no way he meant anthing
i think some people on here have a complex or something about the lazy cf’er
freese even tweeted “joey bombs will be proud of your power”
by guillermozeliak on Nov 2, 2011 5:52 AM EDT up reply actions
he meant everything by it
it was the clearest part of his interview — he was sending a message to Colby
Just win
You're supposed to agree with me!
You’re letting me down fink.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
I mean, there's certainly the possibility that he was just not careful, but give the year that's a LOADED thing to say.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
But it was also the question.
And given the year it’s also possible this was just already on his mind without him meaning anything by it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
The question what was it like having your dad as a coach.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
hm... lots of ways out of that without putting it how he put it.
Like I said, you could be right. I’m just not sure.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
He could have meant it that way.
It just doesn’t seem consistent with the way he acts. I feel like he would have had plenty of opportunities to say it before and he didn’t (at least that we know of, but come on you know Strauss would have been all over that) so it seems odd that he wait until now to say it. Was it a poor choice of words? Yes. Was it possibly influenced by the happenings this year? Quite possibly. Do I think he meant it to call out the Rasmus family? No. And I think that may be a distinction I’m making that others aren’t. That he could have said it because he was influenced by what happened this year but wasn’t saying it to be “mean” (maybe not the right word but all I could come up with right now).
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
YOU WILLL NOT INSULT FREESE
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I thikn you're reading a whole lot of unknowns into my future husband.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
hm...
hm… lots of ways out of that without putting it how he put it.
Like I said, you could be right. I’m just not sure.
I mean, there’s certainly the possibility that he was just not careful, but give the year that’s a LOADED thing to say.
I’m not so sure.
Yeah, that’s right. I’m quoting myself back to me. err… you.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
You have been reasonable and i think I have too.
Others have just jumped right in and said they know for sure that’s what he meant. I have said I don’t know if that’s what he meant I just don’t think it is. You have said it could be what he meant you just aren’t sure. I just don’t think I’m being that unreasonable to think he didn’t mean it to be mean or call anyone out.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
I'm very tired and I am for some reason feeling offended.
I don’t know why. But I really don’t think I’ve been unreasonable.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Nah. I never said you were.
You can keep your Freesie-pie, just keep your hands off my sweet, smouldering pile of Riot.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Gross
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 1, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh you can have him.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
yours is the only reasonable stance to take
i watched t thinking he mentioned colby by name the way people were acting
statements like:
he meant everything by it
it was the clearest part of his interview — he was sending a message to Colby
are patently absurd
it's the Tonight Show, not Meet the Press
and the Cards have media people….at least some of those questions are pre-arranged.
Like when they just magically happened to have the picture of Freese as whatshisname from Tropic Thunder as it came up in conversation?
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
Of course they are.
I just don’t think that he meant it to be mean.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
I think I'm going to order Joanies Pizza for the first time
what type of crust should i get?
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
...
This was the Team of the Living Dead, and its story will live on for all of eternity in the heart of every St. Louisan draped in red and every witness bewitched by ball.
So many — too many — teams talk about the adversity endured on the road to a title, but few lived it quite like these Cards. Theirs was a hurdle laid out not in some invented anecdote but in the cold, hard mathematics that lead to fairly basic conclusions. This team was 10 1/2 games back of the Wild Card on Aug. 25. The postseason, let alone the championship, was but a rumor.
Yet here they are.
#HappySeason
just stealin' our memes!
too contagious. when their arms start rotting off, they’ll be sorry.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Can we have late night VEB early tonight since I am tired?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
So, Yellon has an article up on Baseball Nation again.
Well, more of a BS session with the other BN writers. Guess what team it’s about. Go on, guess. No, it’s about the Cubs.
In fact it’s a moderately interesting hashing out of who in the hell is doing what in the Cubs front office. Theo Epstein, Jed Hoyer, Jason McLeod, and Randy Bush are all jumbled up at the top of the Cubbie’s FO pyramid. The Big 3 were together in Boston, of course. But time marches on. Hoyer was the GM in San Diego. If egos get in the way, this could be such a glorious trainwreck. My popcorn is ready.
#HappySeason
All he's seeing are the previously successful rock stars.
As to how it’s all going to work in practice, no one has a clue.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll see. The fact that three of them have worked together previously tempers my expectations of disaster.
In fact, I expect the opposite of disaster.
There are principles of management that tend to apply anywhere human beings are involved...
maybe since they’re buddies it’ll work…
it'll work until it doesn't
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 1, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony argues against momentum
http://www.mlb.com/news/wall/article.jsp?content_id=25856612
about 1:40 in.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
So does anyone else think that Lohse is likely to be moved this offseason
He had a solid season and, while we probably wouldn’t get much in return, we could probably find someone willing to take on the contract. It’s more likely than anyone wanting Westbrook.
by purple_haze on Nov 1, 2011 8:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not too sure I WANT Lohse moved.
He earned his money this last year. Seems like when he’s healthy, he’s capable. And he’d be replaced by…?
Lohse had a 4.00 xFIP this year
Which is the still the best mark of his career, and he’ll be 32.
Lohse is completely replaceable, either with Lynn or Rzep.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Not counting on either of those guys for 2.5 WAR, sorry.
Could it happen, sure. But Lynn’s last year as a starter (AAA 2010) was no great shakes, and Rzep has never been particularly above-average as a starter either. You’re being too cavalier about them.
by Pegasus on Nov 1, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not counting on Lohse for 2.5 WAR either
This was the best year of his career and he’ll be 34 next season (sorry, not 32). He should projected at 1.5 WAR at the most and I think Lynn or Rzep can easily match that. Rzep already has in limited playing time as a starter in the AL East.
Rzep has never been particularly above-average as a starter either.
This is best on absolutely nothing. Rzep was worth 1.7 WAR per FanGraphs as a starter in 2009 and 2010 over 123 innings. That’s better than Lohse has ever been. Rzep also has a career 3.44 ERA in the minor leagues as a starter.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Again, NOT his best year ever.
And Rzep getting hurt isn’t something you — I’ll use the world again — can just cavalierly ignore. Health is a skill, and some pitchers don’t have it.
Anyway, would (sincerely) love to debate this more, but I have a prior engagement with a female. G’night VEB.
It was Lohse's best year on a rate stats basis
We’re just arguing semantics at this point. He had the lowest ERA, FIP and xFIP of his career – I don’t know what else you call that besides his best year.
Health is a skill, and some pitchers don’t have it.
Actually, I would argue that no pitches have it. Our ability to predict injury in pitchers is minimal at best. Also Lohse is 34, those guys tend to break down more than 25 year olds.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Corey Patterson narrows his eyes at you,
shrugs and walks away, utterly indifferent.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
it's kind of funny that i'm saying this, but mayhaps you should adjust for the league he played in
i would call his best season 2003 when he amassed 3.3 WAR, but maybe i’m crazy
actually nevermind
can we just say that you’re right so i don’t have to have this conversation again?
yeah okay
king of limbs sucks.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Wait, what?
We’re just arguing semantics at this point.
No, no we’re not. If a guy throws 30 innings with a 0.50 FIP, he did NOT have a better year than a guy who threw 200 with a 4.00 FIP (important note: I am pretty sure, though not positive, that this would be true; you get my point anyway). That’s not a semantic difference.
He threw 188 innings this year, not 30
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Of course quantity matters towards value
Thats’ not what we’re talking about.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
o rly
So we’re talking about how xFIP alone is the right rate stat to decide which season is a guy’s best? Good to have that settled, then.
We're talking about whether Lohse is likely to repeat this level of perfomance next year
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
thanks (really) for reorienting me:
okay — you think the likelihood of Lance Lynn (who has never attempted to start in the majors and was not especially good at it in the minors) or Rzep (who has repeatedly attempted to start in the majors and failed to show any indication he is durable enough to last a season) being a 2.5 win starter is at least as great as the likelihood of Kyle Lohse (who has now done it 4 times in his career) being a 2.5 win starter, next year.
I think you are wrong.
Now, I’ll grant that the money saved might be worth the gamble. But that hasn’t been your argument, so far.
Yes, I am arguing that Rzep or Lynn have an equally good shot at being a 2.5 WAR starter
Rzep is 27 next year and in 125 innings as a starter in the AL East in 2009 and 2010, he was worth 1.7 WAR. Yeah, there is a question of durability, but Rzep was a starter throughout his career in the minors and has only been a reliever this year. I think he is better than Lohse going forward, who is 34.
Lynn, I’m not as confident in, but he has far better stuff than Lohse and many of VEB prospect experts believe him to be very good.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
do you like him better than lohse?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
specifically next season
and only based on pitching merit? i’m not sure. his 2010 season was pretty bad. he’s also going to give you fewer innings than lohse, since lohse is more stretched out.
i don’t think the difference either way is likely to be more than +/- 1 WAR
Kyle Lohse threw 188 innings this year.
Mark Rzepczynski has thrown fewer than that in his major league career, and never more than 159 (across all levels) in a season.
I think he has better stuff than Lohse. I think his chances of throwing more than 120-150 innings — at least at full health — are substantially lower than Lohse going ~200. I don’t think the talent disparity makes up for that gap.
We’re in judgment call and gut feel territory here, so probably not much more point to arguing it. After all, Lohse has a NTC.
We can still trade him though if he waives it
which he might be inclined to do if we threaten to bullpen him. Trading Westbrook makes a lot more sense, but Lohse has waaaay more trade value.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
right, threatening to bullpen in his contract year would play to our advantage.
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
Why would we bullpen him?
Why would he believe that threat?
Your whole theory here is based on wishful thinking and hopes — wishing Lohse (i.e. Lohse’s agent) was dumb enough to fall for that, hoping Lynn’s velo bump translates to SP success he’s never shown in the past, hoping Rzep’s fragility just goes away. Sorry, I’m not building a team on best-case scenarios.
I don't actually think we are going to trade Lohse
I would just want us to.
And I’m not arguing we build a team based on best case scenarios – I’m building it based on reasonable average projections. And it’s incredibly disingenuous for you to say that, especially since you just agreed it is a judgment call.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
It's not a bit disingenuous.
Your judgment is “I think we’ll see best case.” Mine is “I don’t think we will.” Were I running a team, I would not count on best cases. There’s nothing inconsistent there.
But hey, pout if you’re mad.
I don't think Rzep being as good as Lohse for a similar amount of innings is best case and I've made that very clear
I think that’s average case. Best case would be Rzep being worth 4 WAR in 190 innings like Jaime’s been.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Rzep was worth 1.7 WAR in 125 innings in 2009 and 2010
In the minors, he has a career ~3.40 ERA in ~50 starts. Rzep is also 27 whereas Lohse is 34.
I think there is plenty of evidence for Rzep being as good as Lohse.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
i mean, do the math
you’ve got rzep putting up 1.7 over 120 innings of starting. so in 200 he’s got what, 2.7 or so?
again, no indication he can go 200. and even if he does, that’s roughly what lohse did this year.
you’re just assuming, contrary to the evidence, that rzep has starter durability. good luck with that.
Rzep has been a starter all of his life before this season
With the Jay’s he averaged about 5.8 innings per start. Lohse, this year, averaged 6.3 innings per start.
I don’t see much evidence to say that Rzep’s durability is something much to worry about.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
you're not even trying
c’mon, if you’re not going to be serious, what are we doing here?
you’re citing average innings per start, rather than inning load over a year? and, again, ignoring the history of actual injuries?
i’m going to bed.
21 starts
which is all he got.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
is your point
that he didn’t choose to have a small innings load, so therefore he’s going to pitch a lot of innings anyway?
i dunno
it’s so dumb i’m having a hard time expressing it
pegasus’ point is that he has not a had a starter’s load ever in his career, therefore it is unlikely that he will be able to handle a starter’s load next season. this would be true of any pitcher, regardless of the reason why he only tossed 120 innings or whatever
you're cherry picking stats
120 innings is the most rzepczynski has ever pitched with 60 last season and lohse is coming off 188 IP
just like using FIP from several years ago instead of WAR when the league has changes so much
Rzep never got a full season's worth of starts
I’m citing all I can from him.
I’m saying if we gave each Lohse and Rzep 30 starts next year, here is what is most likely to happen:
1) Lohse will pitch more innings per start.
2) Rzep will be better on a rate stats basis.
3) Lohse is less likely to get injured. And this point I would agree with only very tenuously given our track record at predicting starter injuries.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
rzep never having a full season of starts is the opint
he’s going to give you fewer enough innings to essentially cancel out being better on a per unit basis
it’s a wash
I agree
I think Rzep and Lohse, if given 30 starts, are likely to have equal value.
That’s been my argument the entire time.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
okay
“there’s another player about as good as him on the team” seems like an odd reason to vehemently demand a trade that will bring little salary relief and minimal prospect return and eliminate the starting pitching depth
I think the salary relief and minimal prospect return is worth losing some starting pitching depth
We’d still have Lynn as a backup, and it’s not that hard to find pretty cheap not terrible starters on the free agent market.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
we also have westbrook
who is coming off a crappy season and wainwright who is coming off of elbow surgery. i like the depth, it’s not worth $2MM or a C prospect
by prophetjohn on Nov 2, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think we'd get a lot more in a trade
if we don’t, than I wouldn’t want to make the trade.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
not to be a dick
but if it really doesn’t matter because they’ll both have the same value, then what does it matter? lohse isn’t going anywhere, why would he? Nobody’s gonna take him without us eating a bunch of his salary. I just don’t see what all the fuss is about. Just leave Scrabble in the pen and let him fight for a job in ‘13. We’re going to need a couple of lefties anyway.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Because if we can replace Lohse' production
We can trade him to upgrade in other areas. He had a 3.39 ERA this year – I think he has some trade value. We could get maybe 6 million in salary relief and a B/C prospect.
That 6 million would likely allow us to re-sign Furcal and Punto.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
That sounds well and good.
But i don’t see lohse letting us trade him. not without it costing us more money in a payout to him for waiving the NTC. Then you’re not saving 6mil. I see your logic, but i just don’t see it happening.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand it's not likely to happen
That would just be my preference if I were the GM.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
okay.
now I’m following you. it’s an interesting scenario.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
in what universe is Scrabble throwing 190 IP next year
He has 23 total starts. In his career. Including the minors.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
No, he has 21 starts in his career in the majors
He has 57 starts in the minors.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=rzepcz001mar
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
shit, never mind
that’s the second time today I’ve totally misread a FG page.
Anyway, point stands that he’s never thrown anything like 190 innings in a year. I guess his career high is 150ish in 09.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
I think threatening a guy like that is not going to get you very far
you have to be willing to carry out the threat if he calls your bluff, and then you’re stuck paying a reliever $12M out of spite.
All you can do is ask him. He’s got the NTC for a reason.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
I would be willing to carry it out
If I think Lynn and Rzep are as good as Lohse anyway, why would it matter who is in the pen?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
the cardinals front office
are not going to strong-arm him out of his no-trade clause. it may not even make the team better
i think you let the man who put up 2.5 WAR pitch
I realize it's not going to happen
But I think it would make our team better.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
i'm okay with giving him a shot
and having the depth. if he sucks, he gets replaced. i don’t expect him to suck, though
but then, like I said....
you’re paying a reliever $12M. If he gets 60 innings of work, that’s $200,000 an inning. I mean, Dotel had a 3.5M option and people were saying that’s too much for a reliever.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
Who cares?
We’re paying his contract anyway. If Lynn is in the rotation and Lohse is in the pen, that’s 12.5 million owed. If Lohse is in the rotation and Lynn is in the pen, that’s 12.5 million owed.
If you accept that the two are equal pitchers going forward (which I believe) than it doesn’t matter what role they are in.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
not sure Kyle Lohse would see our bullpen as a threat
they say they bring their own drinks.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wild ass guess
I’d imagine the chances that WB gets traded are ~35-45%. The chances Lohse gets traded are probably < 15%.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
rotation is set already for next year
I can accept that. if for some weird reason lohse was being shopped they’d point at, hey he can’t do well in the playoffs, why would we take on that contract
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 2, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't need any of your sabermetrics, I'll still bid on Lohse next season
If, he has a SS behind him
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope fantasy baseball didn't hear that
Cover me Fink
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
See that's what I've been saying this whole time
Lohse has a no trade contract, but I don’t think he would be to adverse to waiving to go to another contending team. He had a 3.39 ERA this year in 188 innings – his trade value is the highest it’s ever been.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I think you need to threaten a guy with being the last pitcher in the pen to get him to waive his NTC...
Realistically we’re not sending Lohse to the pen. Maybe it would work with Westbrook if we signed someone like Oswalt…
Ok...so he sits in the bullpen and counts his money.
Where’s the motivation?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I think he'd rather start and count his money as well
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
If the choice is between being on a team that wants him to start and rotting in the pen...
wouldn’t he choose the former? Seems like decent leverage to get him to leave.
there is no way in hell we are signing Oswalt
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
Mark it, must be fact
Yes, but don’t know how 6 starters work out
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Get someone to pay $3-4 million for Westbrook...
If Lowe is worth $5 million, Westbrook should be worth four… Does he have a NTC? If so, tell him he can be our long man or someone else’s starter.
Actually I still lilke Westy and will be fine with him
Again, ground ball hitting clubs kinda should invest in a SS not named The Riot
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
he's a terrible ss.
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Nov 1, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That a good one Threadkiller
See you didn’t kill it. I did. (still meant it was a good one)
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oswalt's health makes me nervous
and he’s a year older than Lohse
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
Yeah, but I like Oswalt and he's a lot better than Lohse
I would rather give Lynn or Rzep a chance before Lohse or Oswalt.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
the last time we signed a former Astros star, we won the World Series
I know that. It is what it is.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
Ed Wade would do anything...
but he won’t do that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Don't see it.
He was a 2.5 WAR pitcher with a 3.67FIP/4.04xFIP. I don’t see why he’d waive his no-trade clause either.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 1, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no doubt in my mind that Lohse will be worse next year
This was his best season ever and it came at 32 years old. Nothing about his stuff changed, he just had a good year, and will likely have a much less good year next year.
I think he’s should be expected to give us around 1.5 WAR, and I think that Lynn/Rzep should be projected around the same.
Plus, even if they are worse, we could shed payroll.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
It was his best season on a rate stats basis
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
No, it wasn't his best season ever.
Best xFIP ever is not the same thing. He’s been at least this good 3 out of 5 years with the Cardinals — i.e. every year he’s been healthy.
Best xFIP is the same thing as best season
Unless you think that his BABIP or his HR/FB should be factored into evaluations of his performance.
It might not have been his best year – he was more valuable in 2008 because he pitched more innings, but it’s definiltely up there.
The point stands that there is no way Lohse should be projected to be 2.5 WAR next year.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
he pitched 12 more innings in 2008.
12 innings is not worth 0.6 WAR
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 1, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The league was better as a whole, so I suppose that has something to do with it
But not all of that is change in hitter talent – half of it is probably change in pitcher talent.
I think it’s pretty easy to argue that this was Lohse’ best year.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
can we just say similar and move on?
2011 was in no way far and away a better season.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 1, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure
Either, I think he’ll be worse next year.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Don't evaluate SPs with rate stats, sorry.
The whole “have to pitch a bunch of innings” thing is a thing.
Lohse pitched 12 more innings in 2008
The only season where he was even close to this good on a rates basis.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
FIP- has him at 98 for the year
tied for 7th best
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
Really?
This is the lowest FIP of his career – are the league numbers really down that much?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
sorry, my mistake
it’s tied for his 4th best season by FIP-.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
That's really weird
This is his lowest FIP by .20 points. The third place season is .60 points higher.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I think you're aunderestimating the effects of park (the Homerdome) and league (AL) in the early 2000's
Times they be a changin’….
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 1, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how much we should be park adjusting FIP though
FanGraphs does is so they compare to a replacement level pitcher to give them WAR – so they are essentially park adjusting replacement level ERA.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I bet Lynn could beat 1.5 WAR in a full season
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
Yep
And I’d bet double that Rzep could do that.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
hopefully the gaping pneumonia hole that is Ryan Theriot will not be standing behind him
Said with total commitment
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And if that's not the case
Lohse will be just fine
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this like the "no doubt" that was in your mind about Omar Infante last year? (kidding)
I think his best year was probably 2008, but regardless this was one of his best years.
I think your projection is low, and is overly-influenced by his injury-plagued years. He’s a 2.2-2.7 WAR pitcher next year and I don’t think he’s any more of an injury risk now than any other pitcher.
For next year, I’d rather keep Lynn and Rzep in the pen and keep Lohse as our #4. Sure, assuming he waives his NTC (and I don’t see why he would), we could shed some payroll by trading him but I don’t see much upside in doing so. The couple of million bucks we’ll save for one year aren’t going to make the difference in signing Pujols for $180mm+.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 1, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
No they wouldn't
But I would like to see Lynn and Rzep get a chance at starter sooner than later. I don’t think they are worse than Lohse. I think Rzep is better.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I also think Lohse is a good fielding pitcher and a better-than-average hitter
Can Rzep hit? Small things but I bet they add some WAR to Lohse’s totals.
Bottom line – I think the rotation is set for next year and Lynn and Rzep are in the ’pen. Miller/Lynn/Rzep and whoever else can fight it out for the 4th/5th spots in the 2013 rotation.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 1, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Lohse has a no trade clause?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
2012 season would make him a 10 and 5 guy anyway right?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
man, that's a great point
that had never occurred to me
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
I think Lohse isn't going anywhere
but I also think Westbrook stands a decent chance of being traded.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
no one is eating lohse's salary AND giving us something in return.
no one. the NTC clause not even factoring in.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 1, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonig on record with keepng Lohse
And having a shortstop
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't care if we get something in return
The salary relief would be more than enough for me to want to trade him.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
let's say kyle lohse is worth 2 WAR next year.
at market value, we’d have to get someone to pay $9M of his salary. then they’d have to give us something. i’d rather just keep him and work on trading westbrook.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 1, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Westbrook has much less trade value than Lohse
We’d actually have a shot at getting someone to eat all of Lohse’ salary if we gave him away for free. There is no chance anyone eats all of Westbrooks salary.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
i'd rather just have lohse pitch for us.
even if we get $12M is salary relief you think we’ll go out and find 2 WAR with it?
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 1, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, definitely
We could sign Furcal, Punto, another reliever, a backup catcher. Or we could just put it towards Pujols’ contract.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
and put punto where? second base? isn't descalso just as good?
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 1, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Punto is better
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Punto's probably marginally better
switch hitters are useful. I’d give DD the edge at third.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
GG finalist at 3B
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
unless the Yankees are really desparate
I don’t see anybody eating a big enough chunk of 12M to make much difference.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
let's get back to this conversation after the Yankees don't sign Wilson or Darvish
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Rzep can't dress up like Tony and manage us next year
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 1, 2011 10:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
got a funny text from a Cardinals fan in Chicago today
was just chatting with a cub fan about the cards WS win. He said I should cherish it because Theo Epstein will be hitting 40 HR next year
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
theo is so yesterday
just the fact that he thinks he can save the cubs because he saved the Red Sox tells me he has got a high opinion of himself — I look forward to lots of bad signings and bloated payrolls, although, to be fair, he will have to be really bad to beat Hendry
Just win
not even
a little bit of a queasy feeling? honestly, i wish they hadn’t gotten him. if they get good with the kind of money they can spend……i just don’t like the thought of that.
well, blimey.
They could absolutely turn into a juggernaut.
I’ll watch and wait for a while before declaring Theo the next Branch Rickey, though.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
but even if they do manage to become a powerhouse, it’ll take at least 2-4 years I think. Between StL, Milwaukee, and Cincy, I don’t think the Central looks like an easy division for the foreseeable future. And the Astros might be moving to the AL.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
i honestly think that the field itself among other things contribute to the continual suckiness of the Cubs
way too much day baseball, shitty weather in the spring, stupid ivy covered walls
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
it depends on the actual strength of their farm, IMO.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so who was/is the worst GM?
Hendry or Wade? Its a tough call, I still can’t believe Hendry lasted that long in Chicago
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It's impossible,
but after that WS I want Ian Kinsler to be a Card. I know, not a serious thought, but that guy is an amazing ball player.
I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.
this move would save him from constantly being picked off by Yadi
not that they ever play against each other anyway
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love Kinsler
As I said before, this club has no interest in a 2B who has a high OBP, runs well, and plays good defense.
They would rather convert a craptastic player from another position, apparently.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
I think you just sent up the Kolten Wong signal.
a 2B who has a high OBP, runs well, and plays good defense
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 1, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless he turns into a pumpkin, I think I'm gonna love me some Wong.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Nov 1, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Twss
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
What? You're making a sexual joke about a person's name? I don't believe it!
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Nov 1, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
....at least you didn't say "I'm gonna love me some Cox"
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
They'd just rather not pay for a 2B.
That’s a place were they punt on salary and have for quite a while.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
he's black ops!
sneaking on to your HGTV and your USA channels
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
This postseason appearance never happened.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Ok...
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Nov 1, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it worked!
you’re motivated to get a beer!
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
Another success.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I’m keep backing you up in keeping the celebration going like it’s 2011 Y2S.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I've got to pen another minor league article.
After work and the gym, my self motivation levels bottom out. I’m a little burnt out on writing at the moment too. (How I’m ever going to write a book is beyond me but it’s always on my to do list.)
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
at least you went to work and the gym.
that’s enough motivation for me for one day.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 1, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Robot, you had me beat after going to work and...
But then again, you are a robot so I don’t feel bad now
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You can free yourself from porn addiction
When you see a Mac OS X 10.5 opening itself on some website, don’t think about it’s smooth silver skin or that perfect curvature just around the base, think about it being some desktop’s daughter.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 1, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was going to be mean but this should do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6wRkzCW5qI
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
They play that on the big screen at Quad Cities all the time. Right before the 9th.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
I love it.
Did it work?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Okay here's the other one:
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
yeah right
i’ve got a 30 minute presentation that i have to have prepared by the end of the night (because apparently i’m taking a public speaking class) and i’m reading ruby tutorials
i thought GG's were on at 10 ET?
i’m still getting a football game and mlb network is showing the taiwan game. are the winners being announced someplace else?
it'll be on after football
they’ve scored 90 pts combined with over 10 min left in the game so it could be a while
That football game is even putting the commentators to sleep.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
Whoa...
The finally broke the OF down into LF/CF/RF?
Progress.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
roberto clemente would like a word with you
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
who dat who said "who dat?"
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
who dat?
who dis?
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Nov 1, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yes its progress
regarding the critics: you can make that lf/rf argumentt wiht any position
by guillermozeliak on Nov 2, 2011 5:58 AM EDT up reply actions
how did Hummel already post that?
they haven’t been announced yet…
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Cazana must have had something to do with it
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
reads like a rewrite of a news release
probably had it set up to come online automatically once the embargo was off.
But football is interminable.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
i heard mike matheny will be involved
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
damn it VEB
why can’t i quit you
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Because TLR
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Nov 1, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
must be the fish oil.
or the railroad rocks.
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Nov 1, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
someone motivate me...
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 1, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
You are a lazy bastage
Get moving dammit
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
you know, i thought that was an appropriate usage of the term.
apparently not.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Matheny says his brothers and dad took care of everything. all he imparted was the video part and handling Tony La Russa.
He’s getting better every year.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Will Yadi be the winner? Oh, the tension!
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
where are all the ladies? Mike Matheny is on the tv!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He's doing a solid job.
Pretty relaxed, a little monotone.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
whoaaaa Clayton Kershaw looks entirely surfer without the "beard"
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that Scooby-Doo dude
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
More like Shaggy minus a beard
Damn I’m blanking…guess cause the blond dude was so boring
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan Haren named as a possible gold glove winner.
Where’s my drink?
this crazy jazzy music is sure martini-worthy.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Scotch. Neat.
I do like being able to vary my drink selections now that the seasons over and I don’t need to worry about the juju.
PS- You’re all welcome for the role my drinking played in the playoff run.
by StillLostinNC on Nov 1, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Aw. Matheny time over, I guess.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
He's a wizard, you know
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 1, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, at least faceplant didn't win.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
Kotsay?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i know lol
its funny there just happen to be at least two Brewers that come to mind when you say faceplant
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
John Kruk says
Victorino is a GIFted athlete, heh get it?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 1, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Unfortunately for "VICTORINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
He’s going to end up on some and many reels, for a loooooooooooooooong time with that one. Actually I think he’s a very good player and stand up dude.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Victorino is scary
he had 2 of their 3 hits in the Carpenter game….
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
All I ever remember in the last few seasons playing against Philly is
“VICTORINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!” as if said by a Latin soccer announcer we all know
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
most. intense. facepalm. ever.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
Perhaps I missed the mark on that meme
Should do more research or just pay more attention to the context next time
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
nah, that's how we get new memes.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So sad that DENTISTRY didn't catch on.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
there was a whole subthread of those
I think I rec’d five or six of them
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
oooh. I'm wondering if I saw that.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Those poor Brits.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
y'all realize that's just the copious sweat, right.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
HoF asked Carp for his Game 7 jersey,
he handed them a laundry basket full of them.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pujols for Player-Manager
This is so crazy it just… might… work!
Patience is a virtue, until it's too late
by redbird brain on Nov 1, 2011 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It is what....oh f* it.
Can we kill this meme once they let The Riot go?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
It's an inherently anti-Theriot meme
so probably not.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
it is what it is
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i never followed this one
so i dont get the meaning….but i heard that exaact line on that new sitcom on fox w/ zooey deschanel and it was pretty funny
by guillermozeliak on Nov 2, 2011 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Theriot quote
“When I was the starting SS, we were in first place. I know that. It is what it is.”
Or something very similar to that — I’m just going off memory. “It is what it is.”: A statement that will always be true in any situation.
That last highlight they showed,
the bare-handed grab- that was pretty sweet.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
We should trade Theriot for him
World Series Champions 2011. Unbelievable. Tony LaRussa, you will be missed.
Yadi!
4 in a row is nice
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
Should have been a half-hour program at most
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
Oh, they're folding the top Web Gems into this.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
Wait, I guess not.
Or did I just miss it?
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 1, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Now I'm watching booooring poker
I like to play not watch
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Nov 1, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Francouers catch was so awesome
World Series Champions 2011. Unbelievable. Tony LaRussa, you will be missed.
Shouldn't Peter Bourjos win a gold glove
from my expert scouting eyes that dude is freaking awesome in center
you should be safe then clank
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 1, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
the statute will probably say how valuation is calculated
market value/replacement value something like that. I imagine someone might be able to avoid a felony even if the stolen property exceeds the requisite value, if they confess and plead to a lesser charge, but I can’t say with any certainty.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
the cookies don't cost that much!!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
These are really really good cookies
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Does anyone have a link to just a simple table of who won the GGs?
I don’t want to actually read someone’s article to find out. Can’t MLB.com just post a list?
Never mind.
Found what I was looking for.
by Cardinals645 on Nov 2, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
For anyone else that want 'em:
NL Rawlings #GoldGlove winners: Kershaw P, Molina C, Votto 1B, Phillips 2B, Polanco 3B, Tulowitzki SS, Parra LF, Kemp CF, Ethier RF
AL Rawlings #GoldGlove winners: Buehrle P, Wieters C, Gonzalez 1B, Pedroia 2B, Beltre 3B, Aybar SS, Gordon LF, Ellsbury CF, Markakis RF
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
.324/.399/.586/.986, 39 HR, 126 RBI
totally gold glove material
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
And Ethier
Holy shit, the managers are insane.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 2, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
@keithlaw
I’m so glad the Dodgers won three Gold Gloves. Now Frank Mccourt can melt them down and pay his lawyers for a few more weeks
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Nov 2, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
heh
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 2, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Does Law usually dish out that kind of outright snark?
I thought he was more buttoned up than that.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
is joke?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 2, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
No, but I'm not following him.
I usually only hear about his articles.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
no, he does it all the time
/no really, I need t go back in hiding.
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
just a few minute ago
The people who voted on the Gold Glove awards also believe the McRib is real food.
Still not a werewolf.
i stood waiting for the bus next to someone have a phone conversation about the mcrib
i laughed a little bit
I just vomited a little
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
after he left espn he changed
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 2, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, probably thinking neyer
actually easy to confuse the congenitally nice guy with the snark monster, though, since for a good long while they were both the only saber-friendly presences on fespn’s baseball squad
There's a new mod coming.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 12:16 AM EDT reply actions
Cheese it, everyone!
It’s the rozzers!
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
we don't have to watch, right
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
will he ban people hwo nest more than 10 sets of posts
by hr on Nov 2, 2011 12:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
which obliquely reminds me
ROBDTSPL2 makes my list of favorite things from the season. It’s a long list. Also, theoretical.
Still not a werewolf.
He's gonna ban people with iPhones
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
It's me
‘cause I’d rather be a mod than a rocker!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, baby!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Is this info posted somewhere?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 2, 2011 12:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wait...really?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
See below.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
people who are still here or check in, in the morning direct Sheckie to my profile for email or
tell him to email me at tallhair99 at yahoo dot com. thank you all and good night
11 in '11
haha, reading old game threads.
Art the Dart….. appreciating turtle-sex
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
let's step back in time.... time... time.....
a list of things I can’t believe
1. We scored 13 runs tonight
2. Eduardo Sanchez got the win tonight
3. Tony La Russa used Octavio Dotel for the 4th game in a row tonight- and it worked
4. That I am typing this coherently given the amount of bourbon in my body
5. That @TortyCraig is a twitter phenomenon
DFA Corey Patterson
“not everything is about you, Rains” -Fritz
by tehzachatak on Sep 28, 2011 12:03 AM CDT
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
woah
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
i think his profile is actually better than his comments
I really don’t give a Rat’s Ass about The Cardinals
or even Baseball in general in the traditional sence,
that all to often tends to drive the stereotypical
Cardinal Nation Fan…
into a routine of predictable orgasmic climax…
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
no, azru revealed
after he banned him.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Sadly, dementia is usually progressive.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it was cardball
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
those threads were gold
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
you hurt me
you hurt us all
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
In honor of Tony's retirement
Talking Points About Tony?
Hey!
I’m sorta new around this particular forum &
not quite sure what is considered "In Good Taste"….
When incorporating certain verbs & nouns into dialog regarding Tony,
may I use the following descriptives to assist the reader in a
better understanding of a particular song, dance or pony show
that may need a further deeper clarification of my point of view?
IE:
Idiot
Stupid
Asshole
Nitwit
Dingbat
Clueless
Numskull
Impotent….(refering to "Inaction") rather than "Limpdick"
but not ruling out "Limpdick" as I have no first hand knowledge
either in support or dispute of "Limpdick" IE: Just Speculation….lol!
On A Side Note:
In defence of "Mr T"
Low these past many years,
I have noticed extreme Potency
with regard to "Action" &
suspect "The Purple Pill"
may be in play behind the scenes?
Sex is very much like baseball in the sence that….
You are as likely to Screw as you are to SCREW UP!
Ain’t it time we MANAGE over MIS-FREAK’N-MANAGE!
Anyway, I was just wondering if these "Descriptives"
were OK to utilize when talking about "Mr T"
Seeya Art-out
Always pushing the… “IT”….
“You’ll Never Know How Fast You Can Go…
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down”
“Just…DaRoost From DaBench”
by “Art The Dart” on Sep 23, 2011 12:09 PM CDT actions
Still not a werewolf.
Did anyone notice the great deals at Plaza tire! I never realized I could get the Enduro 606 so cheap! To think I woulda missed it if I wasn’t watching the game! I also like the Jack In The Box commercials too! WTF? WTF? is going on here…please….?
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Torty Just Had A Heart Attack!
Allen just left the line up
to perform CPR….HIT ME TOO
Still not a werewolf.
LOOK WHAT YOU'VE STARTED, Y2S
Is it just me or….
Turtles Fucking is kinda sexy?
Still not a werewolf.
Is this any way to welcome a new mod?
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
do we really have a new mod?
and besides, we’re giving him a preview of things to watch out for.
Still not a werewolf.
...
So the chances of…
Pujols reaching .299 are equivalent to the Cards getting into the playoffs…what do I root for? I root to not be down 6 runs by the 4th.
by PH4APU on Aug 26, 2011 7:21 PM CDT actions
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
FWIW, that gamethread had 296 comments
and continued on until after noon the next day.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Hello
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
GIF friday is now a thing!
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
Sorry, didn't I explain?
New fake mod coming….
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
*chris brown
/I seriously should be hiding right now.
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
Interesting.
I guess Cuban has been shut out again.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
wow
I’m surprised that he just gave up all of a sudden like that.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
not that surprising
He needs the money. Once the ownership of the team was clear as between him and Jamie, a sale was IMO a strong possibility.
(he said, with the benefit of hindsight)
well
all I mean is that he dragged it out this long, I’m surprised he’s giving up before the final act. Maybe he can’t pay his lawyers any more.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
but the dragging out was really, really profitable
they were fighting over the ownership of what i assume was their largest saleable asset. now he’s got it to himself, and hell yeah it’s for sale. unless i’m missing some aspect of the whole debacle (i didn’t pay close attention)
well, yeah, that's just it
This isn’t about his wife. He’s been fighting MLB to keep control of the team. That’s what all the noise about McCourt trying to sell the TV rights is over. Selig (and presumably the other owners) are furious about that, and have been trying to force him to give up the team.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
Beltran switched from Boras to Lozano.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this is what I dumped back in October 2
I knew I should’ve been doing something
but then TLR went and retired, and I got distracted.
relive the DENSITY
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/26/2449407/st-louis-cardinals-one-game-back-in-wild-card-with-three-games-to-play
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/26/2451541/game-160-star-wars-night-in-houston
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/26/2451780/game-160-overflow-thread-1
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/27/2452242/st-louis-cardinals-playoff-odds
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/27/2453821/cardinals-at-astros-a-letter-from-the-ghost-of-christy-mathewson
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/27/2454659/game-161-overflow-1
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/27/2454786/game-161-overflow-2
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/28/2455088/once-more-with-feeling
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/28/2455986/day-of-destiny-overflow-thread
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/28/2456625/game-162-open-thread-cardinals-at-astros-28th-september-2011
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/28/2456630/game-162-overflow
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/28/2456636/game-162-overflow-2
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/28/2457139/cardinals-going-to-the-playoffs
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/29/2457399/st-louis-cardinals-postseason-2011
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/29/2459186/arthur-rhodes-just-ate-bj-rains-or-the-birth-of-the-st-louis-zombie
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/30/2459044/st-louis-cardinals-postseason-schedule
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/30/2450925/game-160-st-louis-cardinals-houston-astros-september-26-2011-7-05-cdt (La Russa Surprises with NLDS Rotation Announcement)
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/9/30/2461075/late-night-veb-alds-edition
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/10/1/2461898/welcome-to-october-welcome-to-the-playoffs
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/10/1/2461883/2011-nlds-game-1-stl-phl-october-1st
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/10/1/2462692/nlds-game-1-overflow-thread-lets-score-some-more-runs-edition
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/10/1/2462868/st-louis-cardinals-drop-first-game-of-nlds-vs-phillies
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2011 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
not insane enough
I didn’t include fanshots
I was in a hurry, I forgot the rest of the world is on eastern time, and comments close one month later.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
While this post is still yellow,
it looks like it could be a treatise on the McRib.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
secret: it IS
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we got into the playoffs
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...
Can we just give the WC to the Giants or something?
I think it’s pretty clear neither the Cards nor the Braves deserve this
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: ‘It might have been!’ — Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
by mysterui on Sep 27, 2011 7:53 PM CDT actions
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
what an asshat.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
On the other hand
I just can’t give up on this team
I have to believe they can make this comeback epic!
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 27, 2011 8:00 PM CDT via mobile actions
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Leave it to HL to say something cool on my birthday.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
happy belated birthday
I got you an ice cream cake, it’s in the car.
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
Thank you for the kindness of thinking of me.
Bet your car smells like hell by now.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
it's already smelled that way from the ice cream sandwiches that have been in there for months.
The jerk.
Still not a werewolf.
doh!
I really shouldn’t use my car as a freeze anymore.
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
nothing like soured milk
I suggest lemon juice, a whole bunch of it
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
No, your car is the perfect freezer
you just picked the wrong season
he is in Iowa, after all.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
that's the problem
It’s 30 degrees one day and 75 the next.
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
Well I can tell you every beer I bought in the winter times of my high school days
wish they weren’t kept in my car. Although getting drunk off natty light is a lot easier when all the water is frozen and all that is left is the alcohol of the beer.
that he is.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
HL was on it the whole time.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
HL was like the only person totally rooting for the team still
kudos for that, Hardcore Legend
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 2, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOULDN'T wanna be ya!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll just leave this right here
Never give up. It’s much healthier to be an optimist, and be let down, than to be a pessimist (“realist”), and never be satisfied, even your expectations are exceeded. By a lot.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
even *when
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
wait, the date on that is Sept 27, 2011
That was one day before we clinch the postseason. It was right at the end of our “epic comeback.”
huh?
Still not a werewolf.
second to last day of season.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
They were losing badly in game 161
they had a pretty big comeback in that game.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
that was the game that my ice cream sandwiches salvaged!
I dragged my pals across campus for those sandwiches. And UT is a big campus.
Still not a werewolf.
Flagged.
(Automatically due to links.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
y2s is a spambot
He’s probably the one who emailed me this treasure:
When a pitcher signs big$$$$$ to play baseball, he should hit——not be a pussy!!!! Yeaaaaa Cards!!!!
Still not a werewolf.
He is
SBN The Verge.
But I think anyone who posts more than five links gets auto-flagged by the system.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
i would never say 'p--y'
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I was at Games 160 (sucked), 161 (yay!), 162 (greatest night I've ever attended)!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
so who needs advice?
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:00 AM EDT reply actions
how do I get 8 hours of sleep when it's midnight right now and I have to wake up in 7 hours?
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
I should mention I'm at the library right now, so I'll need to adjust the numbers
how do I get 8 hours of sleep when it’s midnight right now and I have to wake up in 7 4-5 hours?
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
I don't have any, where should I go to buy them at this hour?
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
i am most disturbed that the guy
has no hair….
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
fuck it
just load up on the caffeine and stay up. Go to the store and get a dozen red bulls. Trust me.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
what a terrile idea.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, drink coffee instead
red bull’s pretty gross.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I always thought it was an acquired taste
shit’s expensive, really
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
How do I get this stain out?
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I do!
When using a Russian AN-94 assault rifle against Taliban insurgents, should I employ a frequency-shifting muzzle silencer, or a phase cancellation silencer?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks for lighting up the NSA
now they’ll be like “British, Koreans, some guys in Thailand and Pakistan? this blog can’t be about baseball!”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Also, Texans.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
the second one.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Just tape a 2 liter soda bottle to the end of it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
undetermined coefficients.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
John Mozeliak is probably all ears at the moment
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
sent dewitt my resume yesterday.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
How much should I tip? if anything
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
How do I have sex with Zooey Deschanel?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
hey i'm in a band, i might actually have a shot.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
the school band doesn't count.
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
My trombone is hella-sexy
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
ladies love a good glissando
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 2, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and the spit valve!
"Sometimes we're not good enough, but our hearts are always good enough" -- Tony La Russa
Bet she's getting together with M.Ward
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
first, get her to finalize divorce
so you’re on your way!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Oh.... I get it
How do I have sex with Zooey Deschanel ?
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
naaaah
Zooey>>>>>>>>>>>>Emma. Emma looks like girls that I’ve known personally, Zooey looks like nobody I’ve known.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
now that's just a good way for you to get hurt.
and it doesn’t solve anything.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
stick to pillows, it's less harsh on your hands.
I didn’t insult Emma, not intentionally anyway. I just happen to crush on Zooey is all. The girl is just cool, other than the whole leaving a WS game before it was over thing.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
eh she seems kind of like an annoying indie chick who can get away with because she's so damn cute
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I can live with it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I know.
I’m just saying the same shit I always say. Just twittin ya.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, there's gonna be two hits.
Me hitting you and you hitting the floor.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I love being an internet tough guy.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
whoa. no.
though emma with the pixie cut = ew
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
My preference, fellas.
Nobody else has to agree with it. I just dig Zooey.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
This is just wrong.
She’s adorable no matter the cut. Too bad she’s only a few years older than my daughter.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
sucks to suck.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
it's pretty close for me
i would pick zooey though.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Katy kissed a girl?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
and then they totally did it?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
pics or it didn't happen
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
And she liked it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
they're similar looking.
but zooey.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Zooey's eyes just kill me.
And yes, my wife knows about my crush. She crushes on Tom Brady so I get mine.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
thank goodness the internet has already done the work
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Nov 2, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's just weird seeing them together.
still Zooey
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I only want the girl with the knife
no one else
that's how certain body parts go missing.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the (flames?) on Zooey's dress.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
related: holy mother of ass is she hot.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
lifting weights
not recreationally, but not like Ahnold either. what do i start with?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 2, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I suggest some 12 oz curls.
that’ll put that silly notion right out of your head.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
whoa David Freese just opened L.A. sportscenter!!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
WHY DID THEY NOT ANNOUNCE THIS?
GAH!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
LandSickness:
still awesome.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JUkPY6X1w4w/TopzkPzIaWI/AAAAAAAAABQ/75cCuyV9MwM/s512/photo%252520%25252811%252529.JPG
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
pretty sure i could do this if i emptied my old shoeboxes
but i doubt i have any from before 1992.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 2, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I've got quite an old collection...
As my grandparents grew up in Florida and were huge baseball fans. I think I have half a binder of ozzie cards, and a couple full of various old Cards. Maybe if we sacrifice the old Hrabosky card I found, the universe will encourage Pujols to come back!
WWCD? CDGAF.
David Freese still on the L.A. SC!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
how did he craft all the party-line answers into a full interview?
i do hope he takes a nap soon though
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Still has to go to Macy's today.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
I am soooooooo upset!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
larussa might manage the all star game.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:40 AM EDT reply actions
would be first occurence
perhaps only?
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 2, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
according to the article fang posted, no, actually
by tehzachatak on Nov 2, 2011 1:43 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
that would be so cool
hell, he’s perfect for managing the ASG anyway. I bet he’d even play Pujols.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
heh. hard to believe that was already more than four years ago.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
If it were purely an exhibition, that would be fine.
But since they insist on This Time It Matters, it seems like it should be someone actively managing in the NL.
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
caption contest. Laurie Skrivan
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2011 1:48 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
"Hump it? Hell, I got this pocket Kama Sutra right here..."
#HappySeason
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
"Can you believe they're letting me touch it?"
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"What they don't know is I'm the one who farted!"
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lego: there goes ms. squirrely and mr. torty again
Jaime/Carp/Boggs: WTF!?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Nov 2, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"How far do you think I can get?"
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
"Who needs those guys that went to Letterman and Leno...
…the party is still raging here."
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
by Reynolds rapper on Nov 2, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
"Dude, what's with the weird 'fro? That's like, so 70's."
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
The celebration was going great for the St. Louis Cardinals
until 2 gold prospectors from 1849 showed up in a time machine…
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Nov 2, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
"I HAZ ALL THE TROPHY"
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Nov 2, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Needs moar World Serieses.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Holliday:
“See that guy over there, Jaime”
Jaime: Yeah?
Holliday: He’s the one who fitted me for my Dong Glove™
Chris Carpenter: WTF
Boggs: Awwww, I want a Dong Glove ™
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Nov 2, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Motte: "They don't know it, but I invented the dong glove."
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
"And it talks to me."
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
"Hurry, Zach Galifanakis is stealing our World Series Trophy!" Berk: "It's cool guys, it's Motte."
WWCD? CDGAF.
So Furcal had a -9.4 UZR/150
anyone else really surprised by this?
(sorry to interrupt late night veb)
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
UZR is unreliable in small samples
Carlos Lee led all outfielders this year.
by tehzachatak on Nov 2, 2011 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
like a minature golf course.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
ya i think it was defensive WAR he led
but your initial point is still valid
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
How would he lead defensive WAR?
He plays left field???
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
yeah
i’m not actually sure where this came from- someone said something like this earlier. maybe they were using BRef, because Fangraphs actually doesn’t have Lee’s 2011 defense that good- 18.1 UZR/150 (in a related note, i’m really confused why this isn’t showing up normally in the defensive leader board- maybe Fangraphs is as confused by it as i am), but the fact that it’s even positive is bizarre.
wait, never mind, that is really good
i’m having a lot of problems with the fangraphs defense leader boards right now. ignore me.
in a related note Dan Uggla played more innings in the field than any other MLB player this year
i’m having fun with this thing now you guys
Wouldn't be hard to cover in that park.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
UZR is unreliable in large samples as well...
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
by Reynolds rapper on Nov 2, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
although he was hurt earlier in the year with L.A., so maybe his defense there wasn’t so hot. He looked pretty good as a Cardinal though.
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
ya those were my thoughts
he made me think of boog on some plays
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
he really only had that one bad string of games where he really looked out of sorts.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree.
or maybe our expectations were just driven to the floor by having to watch theriot at shortstop for four months.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 2, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
way too many stupid errors
e.g., game against the mets where the cardinals collapsed in the ninth innings, etc.
by hr on Nov 2, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
that's going to drive up his arby price
What? I can't hear you over ALL THE CHAMPAGNE BEING POURED IN MY EARS.
it oughta be 100 since he let Miles hit one off him.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
xFIP superstar?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 2, 2011 9:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
damn i think i listed my low and high points of the season
earlier in a thread…i may have forgotten:
miles hr…was one of the worst moments, i really wanted to trip the guy as he rounded the bases and shave his head
by guillermozeliak on Nov 2, 2011 5:16 AM EDT up reply actions
dan johnson...unfucking believable
they too were down to their last strike!
i thought nothing couldve topped that night…i was lucky to see those great moments…now i hear curse of the andino..:)
and then the world series happpened! wow…greatest season we will ever see in our lifetime
by guillermozeliak on Nov 2, 2011 6:18 AM EDT up reply actions
That video was amazing
This really was the best season ive witnessed sinceive been alive. Tye red sox hilarious collapse and the cardinals unbelievable world series win. Please happen again next year!! Nothing makes me happier than both of those things!
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Nov 2, 2011 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions
so did u really like tony danup?
because during those days of the lazy center fielder rumblings and discussion i read into you like tony was nothing to miss and you were wanting someone else
i guess now the pujols contract discussion with fill in the gap of future articles and comments of diatribe towards tlr
congrats tony you were awesome
also, not sure if anyone noticed but there was picture on the espn mlb page with corey patterson…the caption/article to some effect: “with big free agent names on the market one must not forget the small contributers who may make a difference” i laughed
I just used SEEYA ART in an email
And I want to SEEYA ART after my last class today and skip everything else I’m supposed to do.
ART OUT
Yeah, he won’t get it, but at least I’m entertained.
Still not a werewolf.
You are disturbed.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Nov 2, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
causing confusion in clueless people is fun
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Corey Patterson was drafted above
JD Drew
CC Sabathia
Matt Holliday
Mark Buehrle
Adam Dunn
and that doesn’t include those that didn’t sign that year (Zito, Lee, Teixeira)
Still not a werewolf.
Buehrle was drafted in the 38th(!) round that year
so there are a ton of players from that draft ahead of Mark that never even got to the majors, much less put up 45.9 fWAR (46.6 bWAR), not just C Pat.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Nov 2, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
WTF SI?!
I like hearing Rodgers praise as much as any cheesehead and I get that that Pack are 7-0 defending chaps and all, but for fucks sake! They always put champions on the cover after they win one in any sport, the MLB just had the most exciting playoffs ever with two teams that made historic runs to win the wild card, no sweeps, more elimination games and more total games played than ever before, an incredible WS game 6 and in the end the most out of it team comeback story in playoffs history wins out and all this just before thier HOF manager retires (actually to be fair SI may not have known about Tony retiring before picking the cover but just saying) and thier trancendant HOF one of the all time great superstar possibly leaves via free agency, and you think a football team on a bye week is more worthy of the cover than the Cardinals?! I’d be mad about this if I wasn’t a Cradinals fan! Fucking stupid!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 2, 2011 9:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I totally agree with this but I think the NFL makes SI, ESPN, etc. more money. MLB needs to do a better job marketing the greatest sport in American history.
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Nov 2, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, the last two covers have featured the World Series
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/cover/select/2011-01-01/2011-12-31/dd/1/index.htm
Plus I would swear there was a commemorative, “Cardinals World Series Champions” issue on sale in the local grocery store when I went yesterday.
Tehre's always one of those
I gotta pick one up, but I bet they’re not available in Chicagoland.
WTF there's TWO issues that have come out since the last one I got
I think my #$#$@# mailcarrier is stealing them or something.
As an appetizer to RB's post,
a morning open thread in the theme of Yadier Molina’s 4th Gold Glove Award.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Viva El Birdos
Related FanShots on Viva El Birdos
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Big League Stew - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
- College player makes impossible over the fence catch to save tournament game (Video)
- Security!: Camden Yards guard collides with Royals’ Mike Moustakas
- The Juice: Nelson Cruz matches career high eight RBIs, Pujols stays hot in Seattle
- Benches clear at Fenway as Red Sox-Rays rivalry heats up
- Keeping good company: Albert Pujols becomes fourth-youngest player to hit 450 home runs
