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St. Louis Cardinals @ Milwaukee Brewers NLCS Game 1: Brew Crew Slugs Its Way to 1-0 Series Lead

It was clear early in Game 1 that Jaime Garcia did not have it. Garcia labored through the first inning and performed something felt akin to a Houdini prestige in escaping with only two Brewers crossing home plate. Time and again Garcia would miss up. Time again Garcia would miss inside to left-handed hitter and away to right-handed hitters. Garcia simply did not have his tantalizing repertoire harnessed in this the biggest game of the season to date.

Neither did Zack Greinke. The Cardinals touched the former American League Cy Young early and continued to pepper his offerings around the yard until he was relieved after surrendering six runs off a combination of eight hits and two walks for the Redbirds. The loudest contact off Greinkecame off the bat of David Freese who shot a three-run homer over the right-center field wall to give the Cardinals a two-run lead. That lead was padded to three by a Berkman single in the fifth.

Then the floodgates opened.

Star-divide

Despite a rough outing Garcia somehow entered the fifth inning with a 6-3 5-2 lead. It felt comfortable, perhaps too much so for Garcia didn't look comfy on the hill in the middle of the beasts' lair. Corey Hart singled to left on a 2-2 offering. Jerry Hairston followed that with a double. Braun strode to the plate with ducks on the pond. He clubbed the first pitch he saw from the struggling lefty for a ground rule double. With the bullpen scrambling to get loose Prince Fielder mashed a first pitch fastball over the wall. In what felt like the blink of an eye a three-run lead had transformed into a one-run deficit. La Russa turned to proven veteran Octavio Dotel to stop the bleeding.

Dotel greeted Richie Weeks with a throwing error. Then offered up a fat, hanging slider to Yuni Betancourt--YUNI BETANCOURT--that even Betancourt--BETANCOURT--was able to deposit beyond the wall. Dotel eventually managed to record three outs. This six-run explosion would be all the Brewers were need.

The Cards plated a run in in the seventh on a Pujols GIDP that cut the lead to just two. La Russa then turned to Kyle McClellen, he who was left off the NLDS roster due to a "dead arm." The alleged resurrection of his arm led to his inclusion on the NLCS roster. K-Mac's arm may not be dead but it looked anything but lively on this day. Betancourt smoked a leadoff double. The Brewers were kind of enough to give McClellan an out via a Carlos Gomez sacrifice bunt--on which Gomez looked to have beaten the floater to first from K-Mac's undead arm--Jonathan Lucroy lined a McClellen meatball to center that re-extended the Milwaukee lead to three.

K-Rod and Axford locked down the final two innings.

The Brewers took a 1-0 lead in what was a fireworks-filled first game. But the series is anything but over. The clubs split the regular season series 9-9 and are neck-and-neck in talent level. Losing Game 1 of the NLCS was unquestionably a missed opportunity for the Cardinals just as it was in the NLDS. However, all is not lost. There is a lot of baseball left to be played.

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That 5th inning

was a swift kick in the nuts.

by redbirds34 on Oct 9, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

No other way to describe it

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by cj2k on Oct 9, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 5th

Nasty breakfast for me. Listening to the babbling fool MaCarver and then the spectacle of that inning. That was pitching fail.

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by klcard on Oct 9, 2011 11:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The brewers

Might be the most disrespectful baseball team I have ever seen. I can’t stand them. They really need to be put in there place by a real baseball team.

by cardfan124 on Oct 9, 2011 11:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

this

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by cj2k on Oct 9, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

(They are a real baseball team)

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 9, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a damn good one.

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by a fink on Oct 9, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve attempted to tell my Brewer “fans” friends this and they try to claim it’s all St. Louis and I need to lighten up. Umm no. It’s about playing the game that doesn’t disrespect the game and your opponent. The Brewers shenanigans do both of that. If you need to act like an idiot to enjoy something, then you don’t expect yourself to even be in this situation

by DKelly28 on Oct 9, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shenanigans!

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by a fink on Oct 9, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Music playing after Fielder HR

Do the Brewers always play some kind of dance music as their players round the bases after hitting a HR? I couldn’t help but notice dance music playing as Prince crossed home plate. It just seemed a little over the top. I can understand fireworks….but dance music??

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by KYCards on Oct 9, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Rangers play the song from the natural

i have no problem with a song…but hate the showtime moves…

if albert hesitates for a moment on a hr people talk smack..even on this board…but people not here celebrate the brewers showboating

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 9, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess what got me

was the music was playing even before he crossed the plate. Must be something new because I don’t remember this being a regular thing for HRs even in Milwaukee.

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by KYCards on Oct 9, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we are just looking for things to hate about the Brewers.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 9, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is that they (and their fans) are acting like they’ve already won everything. Getting to the LCS for the first time in 29 years doesn’t mean you’ve won anything at all. If they win the WS fine, but they still have to get there first.

by DKelly28 on Oct 9, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who gives a shit how they act?

Let them do whatever they want. And beat them and then they’ll obviously stop acting like they won everything. Because so far, they have won everything they possible could.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 9, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Because so far, they have won everything they possible could."

Exactly that. Complaining on our end just feels like sour grapes.

by Pegasus on Oct 9, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winning...

Your first division title and playoff series in 29 years doesn’t exactly give one the option to act unsportsmanlike to the opposition and the game in general.

by DKelly28 on Oct 9, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unsportsmanlike to the game?

Show me in the rulebook where it says you can’t celebrate the way they celebrate.

There’s no “the game” to offend. I don’t get this, at all.

by Pegasus on Oct 9, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doing stuff like this beast mode crap especially in live play on the field is a huge disrespect. Shut up and wait until your off the field before celebrating some mundane accomplishment. Celebrating something exciting is one thing, excessive celebration is another thing. If you are going to act like that, then don’t complain when you get called out for it.

by DKelly28 on Oct 9, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying the Cards don’t do some celebrating on the field of play but most teams do something small like that. The celebrations done by the Brewers overshadow both the actual achievement and the opposition.

by DKelly28 on Oct 9, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't find it excessive.

And I think you find it annoying because they do it, as opposed to we do it.

And, I think Cards fans bitching about it are rightly criticized as arrogant by fans of other teams. Let them have their fun; we don’t occupy some Arbiters of Sportsmanship role that entitles us to criticize everybody.

by Pegasus on Oct 9, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

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by a fink on Oct 9, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't care about the beast mode stuff

but i will say its almost embarrassing for them because of how much they do it. In ARI Fielder was doing it after he drew a 4 pitch walk with a base open when it was clear they were pitching around him. he just looks stupid in that case

by Wombat x on Oct 9, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's become a ritual.

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by a fink on Oct 9, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that is the main thing that annoys me.

I get really tired of all this gimmicky crap. It just feels so forced after like the 3rd day. I live in the bay and I have to put with all the Giants’ nonsense. “fear the beard”, rubber chickens, coming up with an animal that every player looks like… ya it gets a little old. Same with the beast mode thing and how much the fans jump all over it and think it’s cute. Honestly, I would hate it if the cards started stuff like that.

by cardsfan_1986 on Oct 10, 2011 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

they do, they just don't do it for the fans

they do it for themselves. there’s no audience participation beyond wearing a panoramic shirt of Yadi or a Pappy’s cap. the closest we get is a gag on a Play Like a Cardinal ad, and ¾s of those are obsolete within a few months.

it’s like Ichiro’s old ASG speech. it would suck if there were footage, and they put it in the coverage.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya I have no problem

with stupid inside jokes on among the players. we all have those with our friends. I would actually think the beast mode was kinda funny if it was just a clubhouse thing that we heard about by chance. honestly it’s the media coverage that bothers me more than the brewers… watching these reporters feed and encourage morgan is almost unbearable

by cardsfan_1986 on Oct 10, 2011 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

social media

is ruining sports journalism. there is a reason why baseball writers are in the hall of fame. journalism in general is just going all to shit, and it blows because the need for good journalists is diminishing because there is no reason to have someone cover something on scene when you can just fall back on twitter for anything and everything. even when its all conjecture and hyperbole, as long as you credit it to someone else the misinformation buck can be passed.

by adiueordie on Oct 10, 2011 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

ya I honestly never even go to mainstream media for sports news anymore.

pretty much just read about the cards here… and sometimes mlbtr. and if I see a link to posanski i usually give it a read.

by cardsfan_1986 on Oct 10, 2011 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

posnanski

may be the last writer to ever be inducted.

by adiueordie on Oct 10, 2011 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

if social media existed in the 60/70s

hunter s thompson would never have written a book. discipline is needed in writing.

by adiueordie on Oct 10, 2011 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course there is no official rule

on how a team celebrates. But there at least used to be a “unwritten” rule that most teams don’t want to show up the opposing team during the game. I guess the game is changing and this might be one of the changes. Hey if the Cardinals don’t care….then we shouldn’t either. If they want… let them breakdance on homeplate.

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by KYCards on Oct 9, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said WE

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by KYCards on Oct 9, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I just made it up then.

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by KYCards on Oct 10, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

So for many years

teams not wanting to show up the other team during the game is something just out of my own make believe world?

 I think it was more about respect for the other team and for the game itself. At least that was the way it came across and was explained to me over the years.

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by KYCards on Oct 10, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I refer you to my comment downthread

re Tony and Albert and Carp, etc. I don’t consider any of that stuff disrespectful. I consider it gamesmanship, exuberance, or both.

Baseball’s a humbling game. That’s one of the reasons I love it. And those who don’t approach it with fear and respect generally get comeuppances. That’s enough for me; I don’t need to personally disapprove of them. If I was on a team making the kind of run the Brewers are, I bet I’d be pretty exuberant, too.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

They don’t care because for the most part, the Cards don’t go running to the media unless someone brings it up to them. When the Cards do bring up a legitimate gripe or complaint, they get called out as “whiners” and “phonies”.

by DKelly28 on Oct 9, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s Tony though. That’s been his spiel for years. By this point in his tenure, most people are well aware of it. Sometimes it makes sense and needs to be address and other times it doesn’t. The players themselves usually keep things inside the clubhouse.

by DKelly28 on Oct 10, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Prince is just out there having fun.

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Having fun is one thing but going over the top is something else. Yeah, Albert tends to watch his homers but he is far from the only one in the league who does so. The Brewers tend to take things past the level of reasonable celebration and then take offense to getting called out on it. Can’t have it both ways.

by DKelly28 on Oct 10, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, who determines "reasonable?"

Albert does his religious thing every time he gets on base, doesn’t he? How is that different than beast mode? Sure, lots of other players do it, but how is it different?

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I consider myself virtually unoffendable on relgious items

but really, fink? Beast mode = “religious thing”? Get real.

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by azruavatar on Oct 10, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, this is the Brewers, and this is their spiel.

And Albert’s spiel is staring down homers, and Carp’s is barking at opposing hitters, and etc. etc.

And mine is arguing with people on the internet, so I’ll quit now.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, Tony absolutely brings things up other managers might not.

He knows what he’s doing, and it’s a part of his gamesmanship. I totally get how it leads to us being called whiners.

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares?

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by a fink on Oct 9, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

yeah, i haven't really noticed or cared about anything they've done

I do hate the Reds though.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 9, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i more or less agree.

i told myself i wouldn’t let the brewers become the reds from last year for the sole reason that they were in first place and beating us, so they didn’t. i think all my hate for the brewers stems from nyjer morgan, so i just hate him. it’s easier and more fun to just hate one player.

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 9, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It just seems over the top

and I am too “old school” for many. Of course this could be the new trend and next year a country song will blare as Matt Holliday rounds the bases after a homer at Busch.

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by KYCards on Oct 9, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the real difference between fireworks and music?

They’re both auditory expressions of celebration. If anything, fireworks are more ostentatious because they’re also visual.

I know that NHL teams are newer, but think about how they celebrate goals. There are lights and sirens and music. Sometimes fans participate by throwing towels (Blues) or throwing octopus (Red Wings). It’s all just a celebration. No one is trying to offend anyone else.

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by spants on Oct 10, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

If anything the whole system should offend those don't like the bloated nature of sports

So yeah, fuck the Brewers.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

And everyone else! WOOOO!

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but the Brewers have Prince Fielder

And he’s fat.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

SCREW 'EM!

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe St. Louis can start doing this and take requests from the fans!

Fans can vote on which songs can be played during homerun trots. Too bad Ludwick is gone…a little extended version Brass Monkey would be fun.

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by KYCards on Oct 10, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just looked up the octopus ritual.

It started in the wild and crazy days of the 1950s.

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by spants on Oct 10, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree.

Yeah, they’ve got some attitude. And it makes it easy to root against them, especially when they’re playing the Cards. But put in their place? If they win the games, they get to be in whatever place that leaves them in. They were the best team in the NL Central this year, and have a good shot at winning it all. I mean… get over it, a little.

by Pegasus on Oct 9, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"put in their place" will just end up putting us arrogant asses in our place.

if no one is bigger than the game of baseball, neither are we.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 9, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly.

Like we’re the baseball police or something?

by Pegasus on Oct 9, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

bad boys bad boys

whatcha gonna do
whatcha gonna do when the squirrel comes for you

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 9, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

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by a fink on Oct 9, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding me? They like to celebrate. Good for them. If we don't like it, we should play better ball than them.

The only real jackass on the field they have is Morgan. KRod, for all his problems off the field, is fine on it.

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by a fink on Oct 9, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ejax vs. Marcum tomorrow

Pitcher’s duel anyone?

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Oct 9, 2011 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck.

We’re screwed.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 9, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick

Someone guarantee a loss

by redbirds34 on Oct 9, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

guarantee?

I think that’s one word this team doesn’t know

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Oct 9, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

and they will close the roof

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by cj2k on Oct 9, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

in case anyone cares

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 9, 2011 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

wheatgrass?

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 9, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, really

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really think this board

takes it too easy on garcia…you can point to Babip all you want, but what it comes down to is Garcia’ stuff is way too good to be pitching the way he is. And it’s clearly a mental issue. Not only is it extremely irritating to see a pitcher hold himself back with that mental weakness, it also worries me with the type of contract we gave him. The dude is too talented to be periodically pitching like this. It’s inexcusable. I have seen nothing that convinces me his ocd bull on the road will go away either. I mean jeez get a sports psychologist or nut up. Either way figure it out.

by vaneasy2338 on Oct 9, 2011 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

You're right, we can point to BABIP all we want.

Because BABIP is a real thing, and it’s important to understanding baseball.

So there.

by Pegasus on Oct 9, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

His point stands - Garcia does have some mental issues

From what I’ve seen, he’s prone to snowballing in games – one hit leads to another and another. No time to look up data on this exactly right now, but I’m pretty confident it happens.

by rencelas on Oct 9, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mental issues is going way, way, way too far

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by mysterui on Oct 9, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mental issues yes

Give up way too easy probably not…even the announcers have said all year when he gets in a jam, or things start to go south liek an E then he hangs his head, loses focus…

but this is his second major league yr too

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 9, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh ok. So Garcia gave up?

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 9, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

the 5th lead off with a hit…i worried, wondered how he’d respond…

i think the issue was as the post of the thread stated…he didnt have his stuff today

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 9, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

and when an error happens and bad things happen afterward, we remember because of the narrative. and when an error happens and he pitches around it, of course we don’t remember because it’s not noteworthy

by prophetjohn on Oct 9, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

not what im saying

i was thinking thats what the guy was saying, but out of anyone on the staff..i worry about him the most to pitch out of it, but like i said…hes young

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 9, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats a good point...

but there’s more evidence to suggest the mental issue is there. For one it’s pretty clear his demeanor changes for the worse when such instances happen. Two, the difference between the road era and home era. And then on top of that his pitching coach talks about the ocd habits he has on the road. Can’t see why he would lie about that. It seems to add up to a mental problem to me.

by vaneasy2338 on Oct 9, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont liek the word mental issu

it’s mor eof a concentration thing..

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 9, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

umm ok?

concentration=mental game… I’m confused now

by vaneasy2338 on Oct 9, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think the demeanor of most pitchers changes when they start giving up a bunch of runs

so that’s not particularly noteworthy. his ERA is definitely not noteworthy since his K and BB numbers are actually better on the road. the only difference is the number of balls in play his defense converts into outs.

and so he’s OCD and there’s more things to upset his routine on the road. statistically, this issue has not manifested itself in his performance

by prophetjohn on Oct 9, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

but for once I buy the veteran-narrative (as in I do think there’s a pretty good chance he corrects the “trying to hard” when he gets in a jam think as he gains experience.) I love having Jaime Garcia on our staff, but I do think right now he unravels quickly when things go wrong. Super sharp one inning and then 8 of his next 10 pitches miss location by an alarming margin.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 10, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

its so clear that the mental game is

playing such a large part is his inconsistenty, doesn’t take a psychologist to realize it either. Just watch the game. Or maybe Dave Duncan just made up his ocd habits to give him an excuse to fail on the road. The dude needs to get mentally stronger, but the thing is some players never do.

by vaneasy2338 on Oct 9, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

"just watch the game"

is when, no offense, I tune out a little.

by Pegasus on Oct 9, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't discount watching the game, but one can't draw clinical conclusions from such a small fraction of the evidence.

we can make inferences but that’s all

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 9, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, so you're saying you don't like watching pitching?

(I know what you were actually saying)

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 9, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll tone that down some.

Yes, watching the games I sometimes get a sense that he’s rattled. And it seems to happen more on the road, when the hostile crowd gets loud.

I don’t, however, think that we have a big enough body of evidence to say that there’s truth to that, yet. And I’m too suspicious of easy narratives to buy into it at this point.

His numbers this year have been worse on the road than at home. He certainly didn’t have it today. That’s all I’m ready to say about that.

by Pegasus on Oct 9, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Garcia gave up a lot of runs.

But he’s helped the team more than he’s hurt it. And what happened happened so no need to harp on it and bash Garcia every chance I get.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 9, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have said nothing of the sorts...

I have recognized that he is very, very talented. In fact, he nearly perfect hit this very lineup early in the season. But’s thats just it… the talent isn’t matching the performance. I don’t want us to bash him every chance we can as you put it. I find it so frustating that his mental game holds him back that, and it seems like a lot of fans are ignoring it.

by vaneasy2338 on Oct 9, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I don't know what you meant about:
I really think this board takes it too easy on garcia

Greinke gave up six runs too by the way.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 9, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

...
Greinke gave up six runs too by the way.

and got cheered when he left.

I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.

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Haha yeah.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

re: mental game holding him back

Or, I could just as easily argue — and in fact, I am going to go ahead and argue — that unknowables like mental makeup are something that too many fans (and announcers, etc.) use to gloss over the fact that he’s not actually as talented as we might like him to be.

by Pegasus on Oct 9, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, he's young. This is his 2nd full-season.

If the problems you see (that may actually be there) continue over the next couple of years, it’s a legitimate concern. Until then,
1. We’re not looking at a ton of outings as far as drawing conclusions/being concerned.
2. Even if those issues ARE real, they might very well go away as he matures.

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by a fink on Oct 9, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

even if the problems are real and continue,

they are the kind of problems that lead to 4 WAR, 200 IP seasons. those are pretty solid problems to have

by prophetjohn on Oct 9, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

not if is getting up 6 runs

in our biggest games (not saying is going to)

by vaneasy2338 on Oct 9, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

timing is largely random

he gave up some runs to one of the best offenses in baseball on a day when his command wasn’t great. that doesn’t change my opinion that he had a great season

by prophetjohn on Oct 9, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

i think his season which is the largest relevant sample of performance data we have was pretty damn good. and it followed a season which was pretty damn good. my conclusion? jaime garcia is pretty damn good. furthermore, the cardinals are not playing baseball right now if jaime garcia weren’t so damn good

by prophetjohn on Oct 10, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean we are talking about

our number 2 starter (well maybe 3 next year)… if we want to do big things in the postseason and that’s always the goal in my mind, it needs to be solved…

by vaneasy2338 on Oct 9, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

what needs to be solved?

he had a great season. one of his bad games came at an unfortunate time.

by prophetjohn on Oct 10, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't really consider his season

great (or at the very least I felt it could have been better)… these mental problems are something that just didn’t pop up today…they have been talked about all season when he pitches on the road…often times, I have felt they have come into play…there may or may not be a problem

by vaneasy2338 on Oct 10, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

right

these “mental problems” that may or may not exist didn’t just pop up. and yet he’s been a 3-4 WAR pitcher both season in the majors! that sounds like the kind of mental problems that i can live with

but i’m getting pretty tired of talking about this, tbh

by prophetjohn on Oct 10, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's shown flashes of brilliance and flashes of incompetence

IMO he’s just having a sophomore slump where hitters are starting to figure him out a bit. He’ll figure it by next year.

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Oct 10, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

people forget this is his second full season. only thing i would like to see is him go deeper into games

by Wombat x on Oct 10, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

What I would like to see

is tlr pulling his pitchers when they look like they hit a wall. I mean these aren’t regular season games and we have a pretty good bullpen that has been pitching well. If the starter looks gassed why not take him out before he gives up a big inning? I was hoping that tony would get jaime out of there before he had to pitch to braun…

by cardsfan_1986 on Oct 10, 2011 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

so you don't gas your bullpen

in case tomorrow’s starter does the same thing. the middle of the brewers lineup is tough on bullpens. there is no right answer. you just cross your fingers.

by adiueordie on Oct 10, 2011 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

i guess so

but you get a lot of days off in the post season… and the bullpen just had three days off… and we brought an extra pitcher… i just think that in the playoffs you have to move away from the “saving your bullets” mentality and do everything you can to win every game.

by cardsfan_1986 on Oct 10, 2011 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed. you all seem to forget the performance he gave us in game 3? he had his good stuff, just made one mistake and payed for it.

by geewhzz on Oct 10, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

sure 'nuff.

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by a fink on Oct 9, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

dick ankiel has ruined it for all future young starters

i’m worried about him, i’m not sure if it’s a focus thing, and OCD thing or what. all i know is the team needed him to step up big time today & he couldn’t. i don’t know why that is.

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 9, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is was his first big start

in the post season, i’m not panicking yet… Garcia seems to be a streaky guy, and right now he’s in a bad one

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 9, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Brewers are good. He's young, and it was a big moment. He's 50 innings-pitched over last year. He had a bad day.

I don’t see a need to find a reason beyond those.

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by a fink on Oct 9, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

I definitly think it’s more of an arm fatigue thing then any sort of mental issue. It’s part of the reason I didn’t want him to start today. I think he needs more rest inbetween starts.

by dccardsfan1 on Oct 10, 2011 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

i disagree

you start jaime in game 1 so he can also start game 5 at home, rather than start games 2 and 6 in milwaukee. unless you’d rather throw lohse in those games and have jaime only start game 4.

by adiueordie on Oct 10, 2011 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Garcia pre- and post- contract

Before the contract extension in 2011

19 starts – 117 1/3 IP (6.18 IP/start) – .658 OPS against – 18% LD – .309 BABIP – 1.25 WHIP – 3.22 ERA

Since the contract extension

13 starts – 77 1/3 IP (5.95 IP/start) – .790 OPS against – 23% LD – .344 BABIP – 1.42 WHIP – 4.07 ERA

by stlfan on Oct 9, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

(inception)

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 9, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

westy

i want to bring this up again…Kmac wasnt great again, and for him to be on the roster in place of westy makes me wonder.

maybe i’m reading into it too much, but maybe they will unload him and re-sign E-jax ok dreaming but hey

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 9, 2011 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

KMac for Westy isn't the issue, it's KMac instead of another position player

Also, Tony pinch hitting Punto instead of Allen Craig

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by mysterui on Oct 9, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

k-mac being on the roster is regardless a stupid decision.

sanchez, greene, rui, rui’s mom, i don’t care. k-mac shouldn’t have been on the roster.

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 9, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

not my point

my point is that westy isnt on it…even if it is a position player… thought it was interesting

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 9, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should have Sanchez instead of McCllelan.

I really hope McCllelan leaves next year.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 9, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't understand how tony can watch him pitch

and think that he has anything to offer to this team right now. he’s clearly the least talented arm in the pen (ya i think he’s worse than rhodes)…

by cardsfan_1986 on Oct 10, 2011 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

the last 11 or 12 weeks has been the first time

the cards’ pen has had five better right handed options than kmac since his mlb debut.

by adiueordie on Oct 10, 2011 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

hope whoever said it is right about the roof being closed

ball carries a lot more with the open roof they say, do not want EJax giving up any cheapies.

by Wombat x on Oct 9, 2011 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd bet on

Casey McGehee starting…

by stlfan on Oct 9, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

good

hes atrocious. he had the 3 homer game on edwin so i bet your right that he plays

by Wombat x on Oct 9, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than Jerry Fucking Hairston Jr.

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by cj2k on Oct 10, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

just lost the NLCS, see you guys next year

but seriously, i genuinely thought that the cardinals would not lose a game to the brewers

by prophetjohn on Oct 10, 2011 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

is this some kind of complicated sarcasm?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

first part is obvious but second part not sure if serious

by Wombat x on Oct 10, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Seriously though, important to steal one of the first two at their place. I’ll be on edge tomorrow.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

i like our chances 1-1 going home. brewers are just a completely different team on the road

by Wombat x on Oct 10, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

tonight was really theirs to lose

shame we got so many runs off greinke and couldn’t hold em, though

by prophetjohn on Oct 10, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

I’m keeping it in perspective, but this was disappointing.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn columbus day

I can’t laugh at all the Pitt kids wearing backwards Philly caps tomorrow. Why are they even off anyway? Weird…

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Oct 10, 2011 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Also, it delays your mail!

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

USPS is off, too?

If mailmen get the day off, I should too.

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by clank on Oct 10, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vunter Slauch!

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh my goodness.

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

...!!

Where did this come from?

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by clank on Oct 10, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

come on, can't you see the inset

David Freese, Jon Jay, and Daniel Descalso.

Their parents must be so proud.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

that spinkle doughnut better not mean they're googling Prince Fielder gifs.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh I saw that

but didn’t know how this came to be on the internet
I need verification!

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by clank on Oct 10, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i'm planting tongue in cheek

Allen Craig must look at them all the time like “what is wrong with you people”

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

I was hoping someone here would know.

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by hr on Oct 10, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

My metabolism has been absoulely fucked since I started college

I have one meal a day, and then like 3 boxes of ramen and whatever other crap I have in my room. Somehow I’ve lost weight though.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Eat breakfast every day.

I didn’t for a long time, and I’m telling you, it’s great. You feel better, you eat more, and it’s good for you.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, getting up has been a problem

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eat right away when you get up, then.

Important thing is to get your system working — it helps regularize your metabolism.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i had breakfast today

but then i went back to sleep for 4 hours. Does that count?

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That's right! You'll be right as rain!

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a slow-carb guy, and swear by it.

So that’s blasphemy, right down to the prunes.

Eggs, eggs, eggs.

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Crack an egg in your oatmeal before you cook it.

Stir it well – you won’t notice.

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by spants on Oct 10, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I do a modified gallo pinto for breakfast now and then — beans, bulgur instead of rice, peppers, and a fried egg. It’ll do you right.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was just having some fun.

I actually do like oatmeal in the morning, but I usually eat a handful of almonds and raisins in the morning. My daughter usually asks for fried rice*, so I’ll make that.

*Rice, capers, eggs, spinach, lemon juice, ginger.

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

rats.

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by clank on Oct 10, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, me too.

I’m disciplined about my own diet, but am not pushy about what other people do (though I’m free with advice).

Now I want almonds, by the way…

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you are entirely serious.

I love prunes. Refrigerated prunes are even better.
Every morning for breakfast, I pour hot almond milk over homemade muesli.

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by clank on Oct 10, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude

I just buy a 48pack of granola bars from costco and eat one every morning on my way to school. Muesli? Almond milk??? whaaaat?

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Oct 10, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

"zone perfect" bars were my go to last year.

now that i have my own place i actually sit down and have a bowl of cereal.

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

f'in hippies

big ole bacon, egg, toast w/ grape jelly and oj and coffee breakfast

shit’s so cash

by prophetjohn on Oct 10, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I miss orange juice.

But SO MUCH SUGAR OH MY GOD. I was shocked.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Every juice ever is basically a wallop of sugar.

Though the no sugar added kinds are better because it should just be natural fructose rather than added glucose.

Sugar is everywhere.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 10, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

like children.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're talking to someone who doesn't drink any juice.

Or eat any fruit. Because sugar is everywhere. Slow carbs, baby.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

GROSS! Probably white bread, too.

Consider my nose up-turned.

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Well, I'll lower my nose a few ticks.

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

for the love of christ does it always have to come back to that?

i very much enjoy my drunken/occasional weekend taco bell. but it’s not like i eat the damn stuff every day.

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha

I actually do a cheat day once a week where I eat all the crap I feel like (there are sound reasons for it, but whatever). And Taco Bell is delicious.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

That, and it's metabolically good.

It keeps you in high gear through the week.

I hardly even call what I do a “diet” anymore, I’ve internalized it so much. It’s just what I eat. Lean protein, nuts, dark-colored vegetables, and legumes. And from 6 p.m. Saturday to 6 p.m. Sunday, whatever the hell I want.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

you sound like my mother.

“it’s not a diet, it’s a lifestyle”

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

"it's not a lifestyle it's a life"

slippery slope my friend.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

your ma's a smart lady.

I’m about to get all preachy, which I don’t like, but it made a significant difference in my day-to-day when I started eating better.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

out of curiosity and not to piss you off, I present:
i love me some taco bell.
but webster groves is my home base. so when the parents are payin’, i upgrade.

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link

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by clank on Oct 10, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

are their cinnamon twists any good?

I wanted them so much when I was little.

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by clank on Oct 10, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep.

though my favorite dessert from there is the caramel apple empanada.

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

ew, taco bell

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think the only reason people like it is

99% of the time they eat it they are drunk. i don’t think i have ever had taco bell sober

by Wombat x on Oct 10, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure

But still, McDonalds, Jack in the Box, Carls Junior – these all above Taco Bell for drunk food.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

t bell is generally open later i feel like

2 am or later aka 1 am when the lazy workers bail

by Wombat x on Oct 10, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha, yeah. I sure didn't.

Call it advice to bear in mind for the future.

by Pegasus on Oct 10, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only meal a day I'm guaranteed to eat is breakfast.

What a highly sensible college student I am!
Also, handsome.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 10, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

hypothetically.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

what a fine match you will make any well bred female

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

*for

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's like Brandy, only male.

here

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Brandy, you're a fine girl

WHAT A GOOD WIFE YOU WOULD BE

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by clank on Oct 10, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

That song is art.

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

trufax

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1 Blasting this now. Everyone on my dorm floor hates me now.

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But VEB doesn't hate you!

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by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha... well i got that going for me

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I was just about to post that

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by cj2k on Oct 10, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you ever seen Berman's rant against his colleagues

when he thought he was off the air? it was pretty great… I didn’t realize what a dick he is along with being a terrible broadcaster

by cardsfan_1986 on Oct 10, 2011 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

not really sure

I had a journalism teacher that showed it to us… i think it related to libel laws or something

by cardsfan_1986 on Oct 10, 2011 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

He used to be good at that?

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

his nickname for Edmonds was Mr. Edmonds

get it? like the horse?
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
what a clever guy

by cardsfan_1986 on Oct 10, 2011 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

not when you have no homework

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm about to fall asleep, i probably should actually

they’re just so boring. there’s nothing to do

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 10, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

you could watch South Park episodes online

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was awful.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

unfortunately.

just like rui’s mom herself.

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It had a good run.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

sit here depressed and tweet and post on veb and listen to music.

basically do everything BUT homework and go to bed, which are the two things i should be focused on most.

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2011 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is NOT what I do.

Haha sorry it’s pretty much what I do except without the depressed part. Actually I’m honestly listening to Red Hot ChilI Peppers live on youtube. For some reason I enjoy live ten times more than regular.

That is unless said person is bad live in which case I usually don’t like them at all.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm here for school to use the cliche.

But seriously, i have four classes tomorrow and I have to wake up at like 8 so I would not function well if I chose to participate in Sunday Funday.

Thirsty Thursday though…

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God this upcoming weekend is going to be awesome.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

fall break for this kid.

i’m actually going to stl for wed and thurs night. then omaha, ne for a conference on friday night and all day sat then back to kirksville sat night. going to be a crazy weekend.

oh yeah, mizzou homecoming is this weekend isn’t it?

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck yeah it is.

100th aniversary. Shit’s gonna be crazy. And it’s virtually a guaranteed win against Iowa State.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

watch south park, post on veb

i would jerkoff, but my roomates are here.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

did I say jerk off?

I meant have hot, drunk college sex, becasue I’m in college now f%$# yea!

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

which I will later forget!

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Don't worry

I’m videotaping

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 10, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey, you don't happen to by my asian roommate?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

y'all don't have to be roommates.

webcam hacking — it’s a thing, now.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

though of course

i have no idea how to do that.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK now anger is over

In all seriousness if TLR loves to play matchups like he does why not setup rotation where maybe you give Garcia a start @ home? The splits to me seem to be too large to ignore. It is October and we do all know he isn’t the same pitcher on the road. Maybe swap out Lohse & Garcias starts and give Garcia a better chance to succeed. Its late and I can’t remember how the rotation is set. I’m just curious if anyone else would agree or if not why it wouldn’t work.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 10, 2011 1:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm glad Garcia started on the road.

If he doesn’t start twice, guess who does? Kyle Lohse. So in that aspect I’m glad Lohse is only getting one start this series.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

garcia starts game 5 at home

the only choice was garcia or lohse getting two starts. garcia was the pick and the correct one

by Wombat x on Oct 10, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK just wondering. That is true. Although didn’t it say Lohse would get game 7 if there was one? I get minimizing Lohse bc I’m sure confidence is low for him but I’m going to guess Lohse’s split on road is a little better than Garcia’s. I’m just on my phone so I can’t check out the road splits for the 2. Although I do agree w/ what everyone says I’m just thinking out loud.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 10, 2011 1:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bah, even with Lohse's boringness and mediocrity

I’d still rather see him take that first game start over Garcia. We’re talking about a guy with a near-5.00 ERA on the road, going up against a team with a ridiculous home field winning percentage. Plus factor in Garcia’s delicate crystalline emotional states in the howling wolf pit of Miller Park … it just seemed like a bad idea to pitch him there.

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by Ray DeRousse on Oct 10, 2011 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pujols on his gidp at bat:

“I had a good pitch to hit and I just missed it,” Pujols said. “You throw me that pitch (and) seven out of 10 times I put the ball in the seats. … I’m going to get other opportunities. Hopefully, I come through.”

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_74300f17-5973-528d-8123-2326aa59227a.html#ixzz1aM4Y4tfB

I wonder how accurate his 7 out of 10 number is.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 10, 2011 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually, he would put it in the seats ZERO out of ten times

With the awful swing he put on that ball.

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by Ray DeRousse on Oct 10, 2011 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was So

Sad

"Gibson drilled the Rookie for having the impertinence to hit a long foul ball off of him"

by flood on Oct 10, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this weird or normal?

I like Kyle Lohse in the regular season. But when it comes to a vital game or a playoff game, I absolutely hate when he pitches. Even though his stats are not really that bad.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 2:08 AM EDT reply actions  

he's not a very good pitcher

and he throws pretty much junk.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

So it's normal?

I don’t know how he’s made a career with his pitches. But good for him I guess.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

listening to Fire Burning In The Outfield (DJ VEX VEB ReeeMix)

dude knocked it out of the park with this one

oh what might have been,,,,

where have you gone Colby Rasmus? you’re stars too bright for the STL,,,,

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 10, 2011 2:24 AM EDT reply actions  

go to hell tony, go to hell and die

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

He played in the playoffs in 2009.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer not to speak of that series

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

avocado.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

i still find it hard to accept that this is the postseason

it feels more like “free baseball ……. which incidentally saves me from having to care about basketball lockouts, handegg drama, and hockey”

it’s a weird kind of downer that it’s Milwaukee, too, like finding out the Cards are potentially closing their schedule on the road in Miller Park. i hear there aren’t even any haboobs there.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 3:10 AM EDT reply actions  

In a season full of terrible managerial decisions

That fifth inning might be TLR’s “David.” Jaw-droppingly bad. I couldn’t believe Garcia was allowed to pitch to the two hottest hitters in the NL. Was TLR taking a shit at the time?

In other news, our “Big Three” have hit one home run since September 22nd. That isn’t going to work against the Brewers.

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by Ray DeRousse on Oct 10, 2011 5:29 AM EDT reply actions  

then i blame tom s. for posting that piece of classical art

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

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