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"phillies in three two!"

 

so there's this Team. a baseball Team. and they have a tough season. they lose their best pitcher before the season starts. their star player is laid up with maladies and slumps undetermined for months. he has his worst season ever.

and then the rest of the Team gets banged up. lots of trips to the disabled list, even for the remaining stars on the Team. the best remaining pitcher starts out in a funk of bad luck and can't seem to catch a break.

by the middle of the season, they're lucky to be hanging on to third place. the pirates (THE PIRATES!) of all teams are in first place. the Team looks in a funk. whole months pass where they play below .500 ball or barely break even.

the pirates begin to fade, but the brewers turn it on and go on an almost unprecedented winning streak. the Team is games and games out of first place in their division.

then august happens. september happens. the Team starts pulling down win after win. a lot of the weakest members of the Team get bumped for stronger ones.

by the middle of september, the division looks mostly out of reach, but the atlanta braves have started a collapse. from ten games out of the wild card, the Team inches closer, until the last game of the season.

in the final game, the Team demolishes their opponent behind their substitute ace. they wait expectantly to see the braves face the juggernaut - probably the best team in the league with a historically good rotation - to see if the Team goes right into the postseason or a one-game sudden death match with the braves. and the juggernaut puts the braves away.

the Team is in the postseason.

but then, the Team's first matchup is facing the juggernaut. a stacked lineup is merely the entree to a rotation that is not the best in the league, but the best in a decade. as the Team merely backed its way into the postseason, no one gives them much chance to beat the juggernaut.

but the Team rolls. the Team pushes. the Team puts its best on the field, night after night, making every game a contest. they force a game five.

and then, against anyone's predictions and working behind an improbable 3-hit complete game shutout by their substitute ace, they win.

Star-divide


that was a beautiful, unexpected thing. the game. the series. the whole last two months. it had its ups and downs, and times when i lost faith after the worst, most humiliating, most tony-la-russa losses (i have good hope i will never see corey patterson PINCH-HIT for the cardinals again). but the ride has been good; despite actually winning a very respectable 90 games, the regular season has much more the feel of the stumbling, fumbling 2006 team than the 2004 or 2005 team that glittered in talent. and maybe, given the respective outcomes, that's a good thing.

and for all that the powers that be have nightmares about a milwaukee-st. louis, texas-detroit postseason, i think the NLCS will be great baseball. the already potent rivalry between the two clubs is bound to get only better. the two clubs are pretty evenly matched. the cards' position players were a win or two better than the brewers', and the brewers pitching was about four wins better than the cardinals pitching. all-in-all, two pretty well matched teams. if anything, the advantage the brewers have in their rotation has come in large part from not having complete wastes of space at the back end. carpenter-garcia-jackson-lohse matches up pretty well with greinke-marcum-gallardo-wolf. the bullpen is a pretty clear win for the brewers, with rodriguez and axford looking like dynamite.

on paper this is a series that should go seven games. of course, as we've seen, baseball rarely works out the way it should on paper: hopefully, for poetic purposes, charlie manuel and joe girardi are gonna sit down and watch the LCS together.

all i can say is that i spent a fair amount of time thinking about what this post might look like if we won and what it might look like if we lost. i'm happy to be writing this post, rather than the other one. i am happy there will be more baseball next week for the cardinals, and that the dreariness of the off-season will be staved off a little further.

like taking pleasure in a sunny October day, half the joy in this tightrope baseball is knowing that it will soon be gone. and yet, enjoying the sun's warmth one day more makes that one day, that little warmth much sweeter.

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im near tears

is there any doubt in anyone’s eye that playoff baseball is by far the greatest spectacle in all of professional sports?

by zeruko on Oct 8, 2011 3:03 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Very well said.

Many, many people simply just don’t understand this.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 8, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

sig relevance

see below

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 9, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea, it's a spectacle alright.

it’ll be a bigger spectacle when they add more teams.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Oct 8, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got my ticket to Game 4!

Section 127

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang

by EinFesteBusch on Oct 8, 2011 3:49 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

I can't help but to say I'm a little jealous.

If I weren’t getting married this summer and weren’t pinching every fucking penny, right now I’d be looking in to how to get tickets to a game up in Milwaukee since I’m about an hour and a half drive from there.

but alas……

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 8, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was faced with the same decision in 06

decided to go to WS game 5 @ my wife’s urging.
Just cut a corner at the wedding. smaller center piece, nix the groom’s cake.

by _pistol_ on Oct 8, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. I feel like we've already cut about as many corners as possible and it's still not enough.

Ultimately, it’s not the end of the world if I didn’t get to go to a game. I still get to watch it all on the tv!

And that’s cool with me.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 8, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

i still don't understand why people don't elope to VEGAS or some place

then go on a honeymoon then have a big ass party when they get back. weddings are stupid

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 8, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

my wife and i have encouraged a number of couples to do just that

nobody’s listened so far. then they complain about how hard and stressful the wedding is to plan.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 8, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be totally fine with me (and probably my fiance)

but there are a lot of people who want to share in the experience with us and I really can’t find that to be a bad thing.

It’s one day. We’ll be just fine.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 8, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that right there is the problem

society has made it to where people can’t just do what they want because they’ll piss off their family. everyone has to have a wedding, everyone had to be there to “share the love”. well i say F that, its your party do what you want & damn everyone else.

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 8, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say "society" has made it that way

unless by “society” you mean practically every culture dating back to the birth of man.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 9, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I wouldn't say it's such a bad thing

that family and friends want to be there and be a part of our wedding day.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 9, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in 129!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 8, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

(for game 5)

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 8, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll leave a rally squirrel under my seat!

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang

by EinFesteBusch on Oct 8, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Math

If you flip a coin, it seems like a 4-2 result is just as likely as a 4-3 result.

by hotwater2 on Oct 8, 2011 3:52 AM EDT reply actions  

(doesn't give a fuck)

www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 8, 2011 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't get over it: We play for the NL Championship a team that we beat in the World Series.

Baseball is a funny game.

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Oct 8, 2011 5:11 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

what are the other firsts, baseball trivialists?

Carp’s first 1-0 shutout
first time Carp and Halladay squared off, period

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

for real? wow.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Phillies don't exactly have a rich postseason history...

first team to 10k losses and all.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

I keep forgetting their pre-bandbox days

…wait, are you saying the Phanatic was created, not born?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

At first that seems shocking,

but no NL teams played each other until the league was first split into divisions. The Phillies and Cards were in the NL East together in the initial divisional era, so they couldn’t ever play in the playoffs. It was only with expansion, three divisions and a wild card that it was even a possibility.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

oh, doesn't Furcal have first lead-off triples in same series?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone said yesterday

that was the Phil’s first 1-0 loss this year.

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooh, that's a good one

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can someone..

either direct me to a link (or if its one of the daily threads give me the date) or fill me in on why Garza’s name has been in the playoff threads so much. Obviously he said something, but I’m curious what he said.

Also, if no trouble, Rosenthal also said something to gain more Card’s fan disgust.

by DisplacedCardsFan on Oct 8, 2011 6:08 AM EDT reply actions  

matt garza was reported to have asked in the lockerroom after a game

After a cubs victory against the cardinals, How it felt for the cardinals to have fucked themselves out of the playoffs.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 8, 2011 7:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Really?

Well that explain it, thanks. I’m assuming it was the last series against the Cubs, I’ll go look it up.

by DisplacedCardsFan on Oct 8, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

that was some epic photoshop

but they probably worked on that for days. VEB has a much shorter turnaround.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

recfreakinific
like taking pleasure in a sunny October day, half the joy in this tightrope baseball is knowing that it will soon be gone. and yet, enjoying the sun’s warmth one day more makes that one day, that little warmth much sweeter

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 8, 2011 7:39 AM EDT reply actions  

1st one is headed to the facebooks.

www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 8, 2011 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've already sent them around to friends

my rec is taking a while to register there though

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's the best one.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 8, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

let’s hope he doesn’t need the extra out next time!

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 8, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 8, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

this post is even better when you read your sig as part of the post!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

The absurdity of the Cardinals season

is the beauty of it. This makes no sense whatsoever. In the end, you just have throw up your hands and go with it.

by jjray on Oct 8, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

undead

October is great for horror movies.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Cards just HAVE to win the series this year

I was -11 in ‘64 so I can’t partake in that whole thing.

One can’t help the way they feel, of course, but I can’t understand the robot, and the other gentleman on the post-game posts saying they weren’t feeling too attached to this team. The spirit these guys are playing with, and the wins of course, has me feeling like I was at ten years in 1985, before I sat and watched in horror in that game 7.

Seriously, the last couple of months and this past series has my loving this team. It’s not likely I’ll see the Cards go through a similar process again. For them to not win the series this year… well, instead of my own ’64, it will be reduced to, “yeah, that was wild. Remember that game Carp threw against Halladay?”

It’s one of the reasons I still can’t get full on nostalgic for Albert’s Game 5 homer against Lidge in 2005, as awesome as that was.

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 7:48 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

I too have wondered why there is such a disparity in the feelings towards this team

between many VEBers (Lboros, robot, etc) and the players themselves (e.g. Carp, Berk, etc). Some players seem to love the chemistry/clubhouse etc. From Carp’s post game comments, it appears that the feeling is more than just the obligatory “this is a great bunch of guys comment.”

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

a lot of people had an emotional attachment to Boog and Rasmus

and really didn’t like the guys who took their place. (Theriot and Patterson) Or the guys who sent them packing (Mo and Tony)

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Boog and Rasmus were handily replaced in terms of chemistry by Furcal and Punto

I dig it. I think the Memphis wave just came too late for those two flown birds.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i concur.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The feelings of players who spend vast amounts of time with one another

and who were part of the team that made the improbable run probably should not ever be compared to the feelings of outside observers. To quote my grandpa, it’s like comparing apples to firetrucks.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

word.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

the happiest thing is the Yadi-hug.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're just biased

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, not just that hug up there

but the random hugs in the background

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, just yankin yer chain.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's really a hug-and-smile combo

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

other hug of note was Big Mac's

he hugged two coaches at once and looked like he had arm-breadth for more. still a big dude.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was impressive.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know, besides not mentioning the pride of Lafayette High

I’ve seen no features on McGwire. which is good. but it’s a little strange that they aren’t milking that cow.

/wants a glass of milk, not because i’m talkin to you
/go away, moocow.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you get it from Moo, I doubt it's milk

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

am reading the labels

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, that's why it's fortunate

I guess they just like their storylines too much to even dig for the salacious one.
#developing

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

The evil that men do is oft interred with their bones,

So let it be with McGwire.

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 8, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that is a beautiful thing to come online to

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

well that could be interpreted way wrong

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 8, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

wouldn't be the first time I had that happen

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dirty Dan getting dirty towards the end

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S. '08, '09, '10, '11

by dan on Oct 8, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there footage of The Shredder shredding Carp's jersey?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering the same thing.

I never saw it happen on any of the feeds last night, just that he had been shredded.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 8, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe there was this white light and sonic blast.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he was doing one of those fist punch to the gut things

that they don’t seem to be doing to much of this year, thankfully.

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Oct 8, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

reply fail; see below

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Oct 8, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apu looks about to start making out with him.

Can’t find the pic now, but it’s that from a different angle and Apu has his hand on Carp’s face as Carp is screaming, was my twavatar, now it will be the CDGAF Photoshop above.

Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs

by cardinalswsbound on Oct 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you see the replay angle

from the third base side that zeroed in on Carp on the last play? He was taking these hesitating little steps waiting to delve into jubilation since Punto was practically torturing him by taking his time to get the ball to first since Howard crumpled (I do feel bad about that).

As bad a man as he is, it almost looked like a Little League World Series clip for a couple of seconds there.

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 8:02 AM EDT reply actions  

bad

I’m trying to find the latest, all I’m getting is MRI for the Achilles

expert VEB medical opinion is in the previous entries somewhere

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you know,

he IS from St. Louis.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

no shit?

when did this happen?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

'79

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 8, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only remember 'cause he was in my class at SMS(U)/MSU/whatever they want to call themselves these days

he went to school in Missouri, you know?

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 8, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most likely.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 8, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is really unfortunate.

he will probably spend the offseason working his ass off to recover from a brutal injury, while concurrently being harpooned by philly media and fans.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've actually met him

in the mall in Springfield the spring after they won the world series. He declined a photo with Mrs. Scoot, but chatted with me for a few moments while the Foot Locker guy went and got his little kid a pair of shoes to try on.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 8, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

more like Soriano

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best pitching wins?

I was thinking about that “maxim” yesterday, and more so today. The Phillies have better pitching than the Cards, in all sorts of very real ways. I wouldn’t even try to argue that. But it occurs to me that looking at it flatly evades the inherent relativity of which team has the “best pitching.”

Yesterday I was thinking that although Halladay is probably better than Carpenter by comparing careers and this year as well, didn’t Halladay have the tougher job since the Cards have a better offense than the Phils? Doesn’t a pitching staffs potential effectiveness rely on the level of competition they face. When judging which team in a playoff series has the better pitching, it would be cool if there were some sort of metric available to account for the two different offenses and arrive at a less Euclidean summation of which team has better pitching.

I guess I’m interested in hearing opinions on the question of whether or not we can judge who has the better pitching w/o factoring in who any given pitcher has to face in order to gain a win, or a low WHIP, or whatever. This is pretty clearly more true in a playoff series, at least in my mind.

No matter what, I would say that Bobby Cox would take exception to “best pitching wins.”

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

always wondered the same about players and teams

how much of apu, braun, voto, and fielder’s admirable stats reflect playing in the nl central, as opposed to the al east?

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...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 8, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

We have much better pitching in the NL central than they do in the AL east.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bizzaro ESPN'd?

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there a pitching staff in the AL East that you would rather have than

The Cardinals staff? Than the Brewers staff? Than the Reds staff?

The whole “American League has better pitching” is a load any more.

Halladay
Lee
Hamles,
Kershaw
Lincecum
Cain
Wainwright
Carpenter
Garcia
Grenke
Kenndey
Hudson
…. I could go on.

AL has CC, King Felix, and Price. Who are really great pitchers. But AL pitching talent is a bit over blown.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Verlander?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Verlander is the best pitcher in the AL. Should have been there.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd think about taking TB's rotation over any in the NL Central.

Certainly over all the teams’ rotations other than the Brewers.

by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

this year maybe

I’d still take ours with a health Wainwright.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean

I don’t really intend to break it down staff by staff, pitcher by pitcher. Someone can. It’s just like there are a few automatics in baseball. 1.) The AL East as the best pitching. 2.) The NL Central is the worst Division in baseball. 3.) The American league is better than the National League.

And they just at true. But no one questions it when a bobble head says it on FESPN or MLBN.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH, GLORIOUS MORNING!

Had to come in to work this morning, but IT"S ALL GOOD. My job’s at a family-owned business where pretty much everyone’s from Philly. I’m having a hard time containing my glee, especially with the Philly sports talk radio currently playing in the office.

Sure sounds like they want to run Ryan Howard out of town on a rail. A pearl of wisdom overheard: “Howard didn’t even run it out!”

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by peppermartin on Oct 8, 2011 8:44 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

ahhhh Philadelphia

the city of brotherly go fuck yourself you fucking fuck… “you lookin’ at me?!”

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

What I imagine every Philly fan as

Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs

by cardinalswsbound on Oct 8, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

That's awful

The man’s going to spend half a year having trouble walking.

Also I have to work in half an hour myself but we get to work in special u-verse Cardinals t-shirts. Worlds best casual day

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 8, 2011 8:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Philly is a tough tough sports town. The town got on Eric Lindros for throwing up because

of multiple concussions and ran him out of town. If I were a ball player, Philly would rank pretty low on my list of places.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look for some of the reactions on Twitter...

they’re all class.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

he might miss spring training

but I doubt he’ll miss too much of the regular season.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm fairly ignorant as to the timetable for returning from an achilles tendon tear

but this is what Will Carroll tweeted earlier:

Best comparable injury for Howard is Olmedo Saenz – tore Achilles in 02 ALDS, didn’t make it back to majors in ’03 (played 14 minor games)

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

so...

Do the phillies enter the market for one of the first basemen? Any chance they go in at an extremely high number for one year?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think there's a chance

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't.

The Phillies will be focused on Rollins.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

But their window is closing fast

i think they’ll go all in the next couple of years.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

they already went "all-in" this year

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, and they need to win a world series sometime in the next fews to justify that

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh....that sux

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah that sucks.

Get well sooner than the precedents, Ryan Howard.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 8, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's a little too conservative

I think it’ll be right around nine months, so around ASB.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 9, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

not sure

but I’m a lot more confident that it will be closer to 9 months than a year.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 9, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's probably bad news for PHI

they’d be better off taking the insurance settlement at this point.

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 9, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last time the Brewers won a playoff series the Cardinals turned around and beat them in 7

Here to history repeating itself. Also my friends and my playoff mustaches are working to perfection, with the help of a rally squirrel and Torty of course

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 8, 2011 8:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

espn

    Crasnick
        In 6

    Caple
        In 6

    Bowden
        In 7

    Schoenfield
        In 7

    Kahrl
        In 7

    Karabell
        In 5

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

oops, that didn't work well

anyway, crasnick was the only one picking el birdos

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Furcal interviewed by Sager...and something good came of it!

Link here is the the whole 1:28 video, but starting from 0:59 seconds was the best part.

On the diving play he made on Ruiz: “I had to make the throw of my life.”
Right at the end of the video: “It’s gonna be a happy flight.”

Also, Furc says “I wanna ‘wing’”, which is kind of cool mang.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 8, 2011 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

On second listen

I think he also said something like, “I gotta put a song in my arm.” That’s a neat phrase too, if I heard it right.

Common phrase in Spanish, perhaps?

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 8, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

sadism

I don’t feel good about Howard, but I’m enjoying watching the Philly interviews.

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie Manuel reminds me

more than a little bit of Whitey.

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

This

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I like Charlie Manuel.

I also like Chase Utley, Jimmy Rollins (his Dick’s commercial was great), Victorino, Polanco, Pence, Halladay, Oswalt and Cliff Lee. And I don’t dislike really any of the other folks on their team.

I guess I really can’t dislike the Phillies…but I really like that we beat them.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

this

the worst part about philly is the phans

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

USA Today
The quiet was finally broken by the sound of a fan yelling, "Let’s Go Eagles,’’ and others began shuffling towards the exits.

I’m sorry, i can’t find the pie graph

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is one forlorn article.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

forlorn is an excellent word.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I try to use excellent words occasionally.

Helps me not forget them.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked this bit, even if the sentence is clunky
It was the first time since the 1921 World Series that the game’s lone run in a clinching game was scored in the first inning.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooh, should stick that with the firsts thread

cool

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oswalt for me, was kind of like Berkman.

He was a guy I really thought highly of when he was in Houston and who I really wanted to win a Cy before his career was over. Chase Utley is awesome in so many ways, but most of all he is incredibly awesome in comparison to the second basemen of the Cardinals for the last decade (argh). I once heard that Chase Utley was George W. Bush’s favorite baseball player. Chase Utley also will probably never win an MVP even though he deserves at least one and is indisputably the best second baseman of the last ten years.

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 8, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Utley is sooooo underrated. Not that Ryan Howard is the size of C.C. Sabathia,

but shouldn’t Utley be doing $5 commercials instead?

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Utley & Howard's cameo on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia was great.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dislike Utley

simply because of his hair. I mean seriously, does he lube it with motor oil or something??? But yes, he is a great second baseman

by Cardsray on Oct 8, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

all that lube doesn't stop the #facetag

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find it pretty funny

that Utley gels his hair down with L.A. Looks hair gel for every game. Making it even better is the fact that he looks like a villain from an episode of Miami Vice.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Utley's hair is another thing i love about him.

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 8, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, agreed about oswalt

I used to copy his windup in little league.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

they were great

I’d like to do away with the Brewers in four to highlight that the Phillies were the team to beat. I hadn’t spent that much time watching Utley before. He’s great. He NEVER gets thrown out on the bases and we got him twice. Really like the Phillies team — we are just better this year.

Just win

by The Duke on Oct 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also don't like their GM.

Not personally, just that I’m happy that he failed after making some dumbass moves that he had no business being rewarded for.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the Ruben Amaro Jr Smug Level thing they have @ The Good Phight

that thing cracks me up….

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone making small market comments do know the Rangers play in Dallas, right?

I mean actually Arlington but that’s Dallas’s baseball team

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 8, 2011 9:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

actually it's considered the Dallas-Ft,Worth Metroplex

Which means it’s one gigantic-assed area.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

it seems to me - though I stand ready to be corrected -

That some of the southwest teams (houston, arizona, texas) are in huge media markets but lack the huge numbers of passionate baseball fans that make a comparable city more attractive (say, philly). I may be totally wrong, but I suspect that’s it.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

THE ZOMBIE CARDINALS ARE STILL UNDEAD! LONG LIVE MEMPHIS AND ALL THE LITTLE ANIMALS!

The Puma looks on benevolently, calm but for this craving for cooked sausages.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

the highlights of the squirrel saga in fanshots

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Champagne for the NLDS? Really?

They don’t even make a banner for the NLDS. I can see celebrating making the playoffs, winning the division, winning the pennant and world series… but the NLDS is just a minor intermediate step. Come on guys…

by guayzimi on Oct 8, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

a minor intermediate step

that required taking 3 games from Lee, Oswalt, and Halladay? C’mon, dude.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 8, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've drunk champagne for far far more random and meagingless situations

but the point is well taken. That’s one of the reasons I really want to the Cards to win the series. After all this over the last couple months it would be nice to have something other just a “2011 Wild Card” banner. I suppose the NL Champs is a large step up from the wild card, but getting to the series and losing… pass

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Celebration inflation is a plague upon the land...

you should see these birthday parties my kid gets invited to… Give me football, where the guys win the wild card game, or the divisional game and they don’t even smile. They’re just like, yup, one more step on the path…

by guayzimi on Oct 8, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

But MLB is still the sport with the lowest percentage of teams making the postseason.

Winning is still a big deal… mostly.

When the next round of playoff expansion goes through, then I think we can start having a real conversation about guys celebrating meaningless games. Can you imagine the two wildcards meeting in the same early postseason series: who’s the better also-ran of the regular season?

From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.

by icardinal on Oct 8, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Give me football where players celebrate after every play, every tackle made:

pose for the camera, do a dance, bring their own sharpie to the game, etc. As far as I am concerned, if you play your butt off for 162 games, and then win a division series, you get to spray as much champagne and budwiper as you want.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

this

One of the many reasons I don’t watch handegg is because of the celebrations for some of the most trivial crap.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 8, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's probably because I'm a vintage fan, going back to an 8 team NL,

but for me the National League pennant is a bigger prize than a WS win.

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Oct 8, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, the Series was a bit of an afterthought, icing on the cake.

Fun, and great to win, but the real pleasure came from besting the Dodgers, Giants and Braves. I still consider the Dodgers the Cards’ real rivals because of those pennant races. And the remarkable split in their records against each other.

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Oct 8, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, 63 and 64 were classics

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 8, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved Posnanski's recent column about this

looking at how the best team in the regular season tends to get bounced before the WS in the current format.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read it was Ariel Brut.

Non-alcoholic.

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Oct 8, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

wet blanket

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

-1

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is wrong with you?

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I really don't like that they do this

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you see the orgy the Brewers had?

It was like they’d just won the World Series on a Perfect Game and walk-off grandslam while coked up.

by mattisnotfrench on Oct 9, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

In background

between Dotel’s head and the squirrel (did I just type that?)… it is out of focus and he’d be a bit heavier than I would guess, but that looks like Ozzie. Can anyone confirm who that is?

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boggs cracks me up

like he’s discovered this baseball gig comes with keggers

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

there's a pic of Carp in there, post-Shredder

it looks like Holliday’s trying to cover him up with his own arms.

that tat commemorating his kids just gets bigger and bigger.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

favorite

The Core

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

Chambers again in midair.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

who is that without a Cardinal jacket

in slide 12 looking like he’s trying to avoid stepping in a pile of dog crap on his way out of the dugout? Berkman?

Just win

by The Duke on Oct 8, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think so

Berk looked like he needed a nap

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

although I think he was trying to be respectful in the visiting ballpark

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am sure the ryan howard situation had something to do with it.

hard to celebrate when there’s an opposing player laid out. it was a little awkward

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is turning out to be a battle of Disney proportions

the Cardinals and all their animal friends from the 100 acre wood vs. Morgans Monsters

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by peppermartin on Oct 8, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

i prefer more of a horror bent, as mentioned

Or maybe this kind of Disney:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T5_0AGdFic

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like the plot of Space Jam

I doubt the Cards would want to bring in Michael Jordan to play for them though.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 8, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Happy Flight

with a cameo by Shaq

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, sbn, by the time I type and post the comment...

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about this last night

they set traps (humane) in Busch Thursday. If they catch it, they need to set up a cage somewhere and keep it there, show it on the big screen when we need to rally, like the Anaheim rally monkey years back.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 8, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Angels caught the rally monkey running loose in the stadium?

That sounds like a movie set up.

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DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 8, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I woke up this morning in a state of disbelief.

I had to flip on my computer just to make sure last night wasn’t a drunken imagination of mine…holy fuck that was awesome.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 8, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Luckily

I held off on the Goldschlager shots and blacking out until after the game was over, so I remember the whole thing. The same can’t be said for the two or three hours afterward. I’m still trying to figure out why I woke up with a half eaten taco laying on my chest.

by Cardsray on Oct 8, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's hilarious

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for that picture, Tom S.

It’s amazing on its own, but it basically says all that needs to be said about this series.

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by Titus Pullo on Oct 8, 2011 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

it's kind of weird, but

I never got that feeling going into the series. I was saying to a friend of mine at work (Red Sox fan), before game 1 that the Phillies may advance to the NLCS, but they didn’t scare me, for some reason. My feeling was that Halladay was going to be tough, but I always felt the birds could beat their other three aces, if not every time.

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by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I felt we matched up well against them.

I think were probably the only NL team that could have pulled off whatever the fuck just happened over the last week.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 8, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was probably more improbable for the D-backs to beat the Brewers

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by hazel on Oct 8, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

kid looks like he got Shredded

/Punto

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Cardinals have so far done the impossible

and still managed to catch the trash talking, arrogant Brewers who thought the Cards were done a long time ago.

by XxStLunaticxX on Oct 8, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I take exception to labeling the Phils' offense as "stacked"

Maybe on paper, but their lack of consistent offense was that team’s Achilles heel. The fact that they couldn’t blow the doors off the Cards when they had the chances (save in game one), allowed the Cards to scratch and claw their way back. If the Cards didn’t finish them off, the Brewers certainly would have.

I don’t think the Brewers will be that accomodating, they are a more formidable opponent. Their starters have the ability to completely shut the Cards down in a given start, and they have the offense to compete in a slugfest.

by olddomination on Oct 8, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

While the Phillies were deservedly the favorites, it wasn’t exactly an epic mis-match. The Cardinals has the lefties to counter the Phillie offense and the Cardinals offense was better through the regular season.

A game into the playoffs I relized the Brewers should be the favorite over-all in the NL. The top of their rotation can compete with anyone and the might have the best offense in the majors. Again the Brewers should be the favorites, but it won’t be earth-shattering if the Cardinals win.

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by Zubin on Oct 8, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be us, I believe.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, Astros

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by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, look it up

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by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't stop laughing at this.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Altuve is a beast.

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's like the little engine that could

Great young player.

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was there supposed to be a 'Cardinals' in the
and the might have the best offense in the majors

part? Because one could get confused by that.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

They pretty clearly do NOT have the best offense in the league.

No might about it.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

They do not even "might" have the best offense in the majors/league/division.

They’re a very good team, and we’ll have a hard time beating them, but that one part of your analysis was incorrect.

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cards outscored the Brewers by 40 runs this year...

they got on base a bunch more, and they played in a pitcher’s park…

The Brewers bench is amazingly bad, not to mention Yuni and Mcgheehee.

by guayzimi on Oct 8, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

then why are you picking in them in 6?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

our starters for this series were worth more fWAR than theirs.

11.1 for brew crew, 11.8 for us. and that only counts jackson’s WAR since becoming a cardinal.

their top 4 WAR in the bullpen (axford, krod, loe, and estrada) total 4.7. ours totals 3.8, but that’s with only 1/2 season of dotel and scrabble, who put up .9 and .4 respectively in that 1/2 season.

i actually don’t think their pitching is meaningfully better than ours.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are these crazy stats you're throwing out here

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by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm can't tell if serious, but maybe its confusing.

in terms of fWAR in 2011, the brewers’ four starters, greinke, gallardo, marcum, and wolf totaled 11.1 WAR. our four, carp, garcia, jackson, and lohse, put up 11.8 WAR, and that includes only jackson’s WAR with the cardinals.

their best four relievers put up 4.7 WAR in 2011. Our best 4 put up 3.8, but again, that includes dotel’s and scrabble’s WAR only for 1/2 of the season.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was not serious

But that second post was a bit better worded. I think this is as close of a 50/50 series as you’re going to see

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by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rui drunk a little too much last night

I think he may have lost the last 3 years of his life, and unfortunately forgot sabermetrics.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they are slightly more talented...

then add in home field and you have to give them the edge. If Marcum and Wolf continue to suck, that could change things.

by guayzimi on Oct 8, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, good stuff

I would never have guessed that.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

The Phillies offense is bad, but certainly good enough to carry their pitching.

They were the best team in baseball for a reason.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be honest, I wasn't into the LDS.

They backed into it. Sure, they had a great September, but it was the Phillies they had to face. Tough team. Maybe the Cardinals would just roll over, just being happy to have made the postseason? Maybe La Russa would over-manage the team into the ground? Postseason baseball is always great, but I had to be prepared…

But last night’s game, and the series as a whole, changed all that. They were dominant. They weren’t just dominant, they were kicking ass and taking names on defense. True, the bats weren’t there, but they were getting hits and not just from the heart of the lineup. They showed what they could do against Halladay and the Phils and gave me a good jolt of excitement, “They can do this!”

Thank you, Cardinals: I believe!

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by icardinal on Oct 8, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

i don't get why people say we backed into it

and that this season reminds them of 2006 etc etc. This is so incomparable, it’s ridiculous. we are freakin’ streakin’. if september didn’t fire up your hopes, then i don’t know what will. sure i’m ready for them to lose it at any second, but that’s ok. playing with house money, and whatnot. years from now, we’ll look back at this september and wonder why our current tea doesn’t look like that: a fun team on a tear, torty & glovington & bsquirrel, a solid bullpen, dominant carp, albert’s still around, rafael furcal playing well after getting him for a song, etc etc. just go with it people – these past few weeks have been a hell of a ride, and i’m afraid some of you have been missing out.

by BVHeck on Oct 8, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey dude, is your running list updated?

/ironic

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

there was quality Yadi goings-on last night

(oh, pre-emptive before anyone gets on me about “updating”)

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

as far as pickoffs go

i’ve gotten all the videos i could find. it’s strange that even nowadays they decide something so rare and skill-dependent isn’t top play worthy. he’s got 3 this year and only 2 are available online.

by BVHeck on Oct 8, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

those bastards

keep fighting the good fight. /thumbs-up

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

A difference in the timing of the streak.

The Cardinals were playing baseball of a quality on par with ’06 from June through July. Then they gradually improved through August and are riding a streak. The ’06 Cardinals had their streak begin in the NLDS vs. San Diego and they rode it to the title. Hopefully the ’11 streak ends as the ’06 streak did, with a victory.

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed

the 06 comparisons a week ago drove me nuts tho. we didn’t start playing well until we got to the playoffs in 06, after backing into them. this year we earned the crap out of our postseason berth.

by BVHeck on Oct 8, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Al still thinks we got in with the wild card that year.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Al should be kicked in the nuts

repeatedly and on a daily basis.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

he still has...?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

biggest difference betwee 06 and 11 so far

under no circumstances was The Chop going to be performed @ Busch Stadium this year

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by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that whole Atlanta thing is spooky

Smoltz announcing, this time around.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

retired a cardinal!

if dang eckersley hadnt gone to boston in ’98, we couldve had 3 guys who retired a cardinal on this tbs cast

by BVHeck on Oct 8, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was pushing Halladay, oddly enough.

i wondered if he was bitter it wasn’t him down there.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell

the first time the 2012 team has a losing streak, they’ll be accused of being tight and no longer being the loose, fun team that was around in 2011

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's because of those two games

Against the Mets and then the Cubs. Coupled with the fact that the Cards needed the Braves to bomb to make the playoffs.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

those defensive plays (like 4 of them?)

were very very nice to see. the Cards with elite defense is much more fun to watch than the Cards with questionable at best defense.

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's an understatement. Would you like awesome defense or butchering?

I’ll take awesome please.

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Cholly will take some heat now for not

“taking it easy” during the final week and “helping” the Cards make the playoffs instead of the Braves. I don’t think he should take any, but the worst case scenario came true.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

maybe in Philly

he had too many gimpy pieces in his lineup

and, apparently, none with the healing power of Matt Holliday. and his coors.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

So WMT... I am pretty convinced that Theriot would have also made Furcal's play in the 8th... Thoughts?

I kid! I kid!

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by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just glad that we finally had our best team on the field this year, even if it was only for a few innings

Furcal at SS, Punto at 2B, Jay in CF, Freese at 3B, Holliday in LF, Berkman in RF, Yadi at C, and Pujols at 1B. Has this lineup been on the field at the same time before last night? Not sure it has been with all the injuries and trades. Hopefully we see it often in the NLCS.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's sounding like Schumaker will not even be on the NLCS roster due to his oblique injury.

This is a huge development in whether the best nine are on the diamond at a given time.

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

There will be much less sliding into first...

I do know that.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you're sliding into first, And you feel something burst ....

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget about Punto pulling that.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It will reduced by half...

50% = much less to me.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

For sure. It took an act of nature (not TLR) for us to put our best 8 on the field

But it still happened, so i get some satisfaction.

Of course no one wants to see someone get hurt, but like McClellan’s dead arm, Skip’s injury may "help"us play our best players.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

not disagreeing w/u but Skip drove in the winning and only run

I cringed when I saw the lineup w/him at CF.

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

credit where due

skip took good at bats all series. Took his opportunities and helped the team.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 8, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

had the best average over the series

which is the only reason I can think of for TLR to be starting him at center. Wanted to keep the “hot bat” in while keeping the GB specialists in the infield.

still seems silly, but, there was a reason.

Do it for Torty.
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by Oedipa Maas on Oct 8, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

doesn’t mean I agree with the decision to start him yesterday, but I try not to let that get in the way of admiring a player for turning in a heck of a series. That at bat against Halladay yesterday was really excellent.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 8, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, sure. Skip's going to get on base in about a third of his at bats.

So he’s going to get hits. But it doesn’t make him a better hitter or fielder than Jon Jay.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

punto was so key last night. several plays he made that neither skip nor theriot would have

especially the utley tag.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fourstick and I were talking about that very thing during the game.

Neither of the stonehanded tandem TLR prefers at second makes the tag on that throw. The other play off the deflection when Punto was charging and made the throw was excellent, too.

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am wondering if carp asked for punto.

i have a feeling he did.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I shall have the Shredder. I got all these great tats, y'know.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

why has the shredder meme not crossed streams

With the turtle meme so far? Seems like a natural progression.

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by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think it was just waiting on you to point it out

someone with photoshop/creative skills, make it happen!

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by scoot on Oct 8, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

needs to be a masked wrestler

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Careful what you ask for...

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by Red Blazer on Oct 8, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

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by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

But the Diamond backs wouldn’t have been a walk in the park for them either.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know, the phillies claimed their 8-game losing streak was just because they were taking it easy

but, outside of game 1, they had a lot of trouble scoring runs in this series. i don’t know that they were taking it all that easy down the stretch.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

11 runs in game 1, 10 runs in games 2-5

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by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

right. i wasn't trying to disagree. just making a related observation.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

phillies team wOBA

.316

Cards #4 in the majors. I don’t know if this is why they won or not, but it is part of it. you just aren’t going to expect huge numbers from that offense.

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Carpenter is a baseball giant

that is all

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by mattyp on Oct 8, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm still chuckling over Carp's reaction to

Howard hitting that flyball on a 3-0 count. It was a “I can’t believe he just did that.” reaction. Furc’s catch, spin and throw like he was a dancing matador. Jay’s rundown in the 9th(I literally pounded my fist into my hand over that). And Punto, HFS, PUNTO! Punto saved our asses tonite, made some ridiculous plays. Yadi’s gundown and Carp’s laugh at the end. These are some visions I’ll not lose for a long time to come. Thank you for the ride, Cardinals! I look for more to come.

The only thing that might have made it better is if a couple of the guys had gone over to help Howard. I’m not saying that they should have, it just would’ve been a very sportsmanship-ly thing to do.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Furcal's kick on his follow through was pretty sassy!

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by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was actually a bit surprised

no one went to see about Howard. Had this been a regular season game, or even a non-clinching playoff win, Albert would have been over there in short order to check on him (along with other, most likely).

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 8, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Albert knew. had his back to it. Punto probably saw it right off, that's why he hesitated with the throw.

and the trainers descended fast.

after clinching, I don’t think you’d want to approach those guys right off.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pu2Pu

/always wanted to type that

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sounds like a network protocol or a IP layer

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wondered too why punto was taking forever

but he could obviously see what albert couldn’t

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I was wondering

“Where’s Howard? Did he just give up in frustration?” felt bad when I saw what happened.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 8, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I yelled

until Stockton mentioned Howard was down.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I initially assumed he was going to take it to the bag himself

He would have had time even if Howard had been OK, although it would have been a bit odd from that distance.

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know

I wouldn’t expect it, really, in the middle of a series clinching celebration. Had this not been the clincher, I imagine concern would have been expressed.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 8, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

tongue-in-cheek

they also had to hit Carpenter’s reset button inside his shirt and contain him before he exploded

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, rotation set up?

Garcia
Lohse
Carp
E-jax
Garcia
Lohse
Carp

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 11:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

read in stltoday

Garcia
E-Jax
Carp
Lohse
Garcia
E-jax
Carp

too lazy to find the link.

Winner of the prestigious 2011 MVL as presented by Alxfritz.

"You didn't win LOY, but you did win MVL, which is a prestigious award I just made up. And that’s something RiverRat can never take from you." - Alxfritz

by Green Man! on Oct 8, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Yahoo sports

page has the same rotation you say. Gonna be a long time between starts for Lohse.

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is the game order

2-2-1-1-1 or 2-3-2?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

2-3-2

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah good

So lohse and Garcia get a home game

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

2-2-1-1-1 is the NHL

if memory serves….

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Garcia

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read this post

and it was a very good read. Is this an outline for a novel you’re planning to write? If so you could have a best seller if you put your heart into it.

by ridgesee on Oct 8, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

how did you even sign up? i never saw that on the official site. i went there this morning looking for that

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

They sent me an email to enter into a lottery for NLCS and World Series tickets.

I missed out on both.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

damnit

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

the 28th out

probably already covered in the game thread (too lazy to check), Gload vertured onto the field running to first so should have been called out anyway. (does that make 29 outs?)

Don’t get to watch the Cards too often (usually ‘watch’ via gamecast) so was stunned at how much Motte looks like Bruce Sutter circa early eighties.

Vances Law “You can’t win a pennant without a slick fielding shortstop”

by vances law on Oct 8, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

actually you can

Rule 6.05k) In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three-foot line, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire’s judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base, in which case the ball is dead; except that he may run outside (to the right of) the threefoot line or inside (to the left of) the foul line to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball;
Rule 6.05(k) Comment: The lines marking the three-foot lane are a part of that lane and a batter- runner is required to have both feet within the three-foot lane or on the lines marking the lane. The batter-runner is permitted to exit the three-foot lane by means of a step, stride, reach or slide in the immediate vicinity of first base for the sole purpose of touching first base.

by vances law on Oct 8, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seen it

I don’t remember when, but I know I’ve seen a runner called out for this. It’s pretty rare, though, because that’s the shortest path to first base, so players do tend to run inside the line.

by hotwater2 on Oct 8, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome back.

And best of luck on your road to recovery.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

cheers and good wishes

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

A rec to you.

Glad that you are having good results with the cancer. Nice job on keeping the squirrels in good health.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Life is good!

Best of luck to you!

Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President

by peppermartin on Oct 8, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

May God continue

to bless you. I have lost several family members and friends to pancreatic cancer and I know it is not an easy one to beat. Hope and pray that you have.

by ridgesee on Oct 8, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had cancer when I was 16

Had radiation and chemo for 12 months, now I have been in remission for 8 years. Hang in there man, I know how hard it can be but stuff gets better. And your lucky to still have your hair! Mine never grew back! Anything you can find to take your mind of stuff does wonders, I hope you continue to improve and the Cards keep winning.

by mick311 on Oct 8, 2011 1:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ouch. Good luck, and I'm cheering for you.

Unfortunately, I’ve had some experience with watching my mother suffer from pancreatic cancer, and am all too aware of the prognosis, and the usual outcome. Its not a fair thing to have, so keep on.

As a coincidence, it was five years ago this fall when her prognosis wasn’t good to make it through the fall, which unfortunately held true. It was also five years ago that there was another weird Cardinals team out there, backing into the playoffs, and somehow winning the whole damn thing. And I have to say, watching some of those games were the greatest things ever for me, from yelling at Endy Chavez, Yadi becoming my favorite Cardinal, the beginning of the epic night that came from the Anthony Reyes game, fully believing that Carlos Beltran would never recover from that curveball, and then finally trying to explain to strangers here in DC that Adam Wainwright isn’t actually our closer – just our best young pitcher who’ll be in the rotation next year, were absolutely necessary. Being able to take a couple hours off where my biggest worry was how Jeff Weaver was going to make it past five innings was exactly what I needed at that time. This is why I hate it when people think sports are dumb. Watching games with about four other like-minded midwesterners here was just what was needed when everything else isn’t good. I hope this postseason is just as special and great for someone else in VEBland as that 2006 one was for me.

Just again, keep on, and thank you for sharing.

by Expatcardfan on Oct 8, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

here's a "mi shebeirach" to u (prayer for good health)

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope to see you here celebrating with us in about two weeks.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is, without a shred of doubt, the best post I have ever seen on VEB.

Thank You for sharing.

yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man

by sociopath on Oct 8, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for this post

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best of wishes and prayers for you

My wife almost died from Pancreatitis and unfortunately my father did. The pancreas and illnesses associated with it are no joke much less the big "C’. Keep the faith and enjoy every day I wish the very best to you and yours.

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 9, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh... oh no...!

it’s a lemur!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

Que?

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 8, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry, I can't find that lemur picture that went green recently

= Braun

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I woke up this morning still giddy...

I’m now at the office studying, and still giddy. I dont’ know the last time I’ve been this happy. Good times.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I'm still pretty jazzed up too

I don’t want to wait – I wish they were starting the NLCS today. (I imagine the Cards might disagree though….)

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last night was one of my favorite games of all time.

I love pitching duels, they are so tense. I love dominant pitching performances. I love Chris Carpenter. I loved last night so much, I was so nervous, so excited and so elated when Carp closed it out.

I had trouble sleeping, seriously. When I woke up, I only wanted to digest more information, narrative-pandering articles, everything possible about last night.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

*don't say "digest"*

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

early morning...lots of beer last night...

don’t picture what you read on VEB.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

well at least we weren't cocky sh*

a good horror flick needs a lot of terror.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

something about the postseason

that makes pitchers’ duels better. I was hanging on every single pitch last night.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

poking around Posnanski's twitter

besides the NL Central comment
this made me laugh

Of course I misspelled Steel in that previous Tweet. Hopefully, Real Steal, the Vince Coleman Story, will follow. 8:12 PM Oct 6th via Twitter for Mac

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

hahaha

awesome

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I'll go track down a Philly cheesesteak...

…and laugh maniacally as I devour it.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 8, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Ted Drewes > Geno's steak

but both delicious

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not gonna say Carp has healing power...

But I’ve been sick the entire week and last night I actually think I forgot I was sick. I don’t think I coughed or sniffled the whole time during the game.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 8, 2011 11:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

he DGAFYI

but that, ironically, is how you are now well.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Austin Texas VEB

Anyone in Austin —-can you suggest a sports bar where we can gather tomorrow?

Older than any three of you.

by Remember Kenny B on Oct 8, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

prophetjohn and clank are down around there somewhere.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valatan too

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

102 wins ain't worth what it use to be.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Oct 8, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Just ask the A's...

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

A nice piece by Posnanski

on this very subject.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

is that the one with that one-liner ending

that needs warning-for?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe so.

The Posterisked one-liner ending, right?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Posterisked for the win.

those darn bears.
or we can laugh that they still can’t seem to capitalize.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

he also has a poll for best baseball movie

field of dreams neck and neck with bull durham

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Major League II???

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

me no gusta Major League II

Major League is great. I think most of the actors actually looks somewhat believable as late-80’s baseball players. It also has my favorite sports movie quote.

“I only have one thing to say to you Vaughn. Strike this motherf***er out.”

I feel like they turned Major League II into too much of a family movie.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's that...

I just enjoy the whole “Maybe it’s the hybernator, or the out a stater. Whatever it’s see you later for Vaughn” bit…

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus this gem...

My God! Good news fans, the Indians are showing signs of life for the first time in weeks. As a matter of fact they appear to be beating the crap out of each other. It looks like Willie Hayes is trying to hit Rick Vaughn, and why not, everyone else in the league does. Hayes swings and misses. I don’t know Monte, it looks like Vaughn is carrying his left a little low. This could hurt him in the later rounds.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

gold, pure gold

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The comedy writing was much better in the second.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Major League II is hilarious

Not quite the original, but hilarious.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comparing those two movies is like apples and oranges.

Field of Dreams is about the game itself while Bull Durham is about Organized Baseball, a totally different dynamic. And then there’s The Natural, which, aside from its Hero Tempted theme, is about one season going from worst to first.

I voted for Field of Dreams.

From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.

by icardinal on Oct 8, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, Field of Dreams

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

we only need 101

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 8, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping the title of this post is a Smiths reference.

[Homer shows Bart "Wonderbat".]
Bart: Wow. How many home runs you gonna hit with that thing?
Homer: Let's see... We play thirty games. Ten at-bats a game. Mm...three thousand.

by boog on Oct 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

when in doubt, it's a smiths reference.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

oh, I was wondering what they were saying
Moments earlier Carpenter’s teammates, anticipating his arrival in the clubhouse, huddled together. When he entered, they mobbed him. “60 feet! 60 feet!” they chanted.

SI

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

see below for more!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

May I just say

I am so very glad Dr. Wainwright is able to travel with the team.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

So is the NL central still the worst division in baseball?

the game last night from Carp was unbelievable. What an amazing game.

The only thing that bothered me was, after that last out, how much coverage Howard and his injury got. I feel for the guy, but we just knocked off the best team in baseball on the road in game 5 behind a CG shutout from our ace! It just bothered me that they cut right from our on field celebration to Howard and then stayed on him while our team celebrated. then on SC they went right from the game highlights to Howard’s status and postgame interview. I cant say I was surprised bc it was fespn, but still, their season is over! Yea it sucks he hurt his ankle but is that really the top story with all the great baseball played yesterday?

Anyway, awesome game. Ill take the win, and am glad to see we are underdogs in this series, feels like 2006 again.

by mick311 on Oct 8, 2011 11:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

haven't you heard?

Ryan Howard for MVP!

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet zombie jesus

THAT. WAS. AWESOME.

Moar wins please.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

not sure if mentioned, but I have to give props to TLR

Bullpen management was just phenomenal this series and he made a lot of right moves. Kudos.

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Oct 8, 2011 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Including not using the bullpen last night.

Although, I think Carp would have beat him down if he’d tried to.

by illcowboy on Oct 8, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

only way to use the bullpen last night would have involved hitting Carp with a horse tranquilizer dart and dragging him off the field.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 8, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Bernie said a taser.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

that wouldn't have stopped him

just made him (more) angry

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 8, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm envisioning the movie Crank.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been right more often than wrong lately

which is all you can ask of a manager. They WILL make mistakes. Anybody would.

"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.

by StanTheManFan on Oct 8, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

KNOW THINE....

SI Cover jinx …. go! Strange Brew

It wasn’t online for a while so I didn’t enter the fray on any of the Nyjer discussion.

If anyone needs a quick primer to this match-up, other than our mirror-image head-to-head records, that’s a pretty good link.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably nexdef'd

Al Davis died

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 12:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

you're the first

I knew about it though… distracted

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

again?

too soon?

In all seriousness… he had a huge impact on the NFL and how we know the game today. it’s too bad that he became a joke.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bittersweet day for me....

"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"

by KlausChadman on Oct 8, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got the final out from last night

accompanied by Shannon.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's random

I’ve gotten Wainwright v Beltran, Wainwright v Inge, Yadi, Ozzie, and now last night.

A very cool campaign for MLB.com.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now if only those jerkfaces would put this stuff up on youtube...

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

amen

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

no shit!

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are leaving a ton of money on the table by not doing it.

I’ve never been able to easily navigate the mlb.com video page… youtube’s better.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i kept refreshing...

yadi 2006, waino WS strike out, Beltran NLCS strike out (2x), Ozzie.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, uh

Furcal is good. He visibly slowed down going around second for his triple and STILL made it to third safe. And he made that awesome play in the 7th (?)

Is he an FA after the season?

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...

I just watched the replay of his triple… Not a good decision by Furc. The Hawaiian missed the cutoff man and he still only made it by an eyelash.

by guayzimi on Oct 8, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen the phrase "Not good" used.

Strauss (I think) speculated Greene would be replacing him for the NLCS.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

What would a Cards series be...

unless we got to call up someone from Memphis.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was going nuts about it at the time

but what an plate appearance by skip in the first.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greene, and not McClellan?

TLR seems to prefer a 12-pitcher setup for the longer series, only tolerating 11 for the NLDS.

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by StanTheManFan on Oct 8, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure we can

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by scoot on Oct 8, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...

I believe they can reconfigure the roster however they want now. I think they can even change the pitcher-position player ratio.

by guayzimi on Oct 8, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

they ought to.

if they weren’t gonna put him in after carp’s first start in philly, they’re never going to put him in

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Had to leave him on the roster so he got his postseason share...

DUH

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

read in stltoday

that the decision for the last spot was between mcclellan and boggs and that westy wasn’t even an option. mcclellan is now healthy. i think it is a long shot that sanchez makes this roster now.

found the link. same article as the one that predicts cards rotation.

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by Green Man! on Oct 8, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to let you all in on the conversation I had this morning with my mom

Phone rings.

“Hey Alex, it’s Mom. Listen this kid I see (my mom’s a learning consultant) and his older siblings’ parents are going out of town and they need a babysitter for the week”
“Mom, people don’t tend to hire male babysitters, especially 24 year old male babysitters”
“Well, it’s a bunch of teenagers in highschool”
“Why do teenagers need a babysitter?”
“Well, the parents need someone there at night for a week who’s over 21, in case something happens”
“Yeah, I don’t know”
“Oh, I forgot to mention….they’re Stan Musial’s grandchildren

So, yeah I’ll be making this call sometime soon.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 8, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

that's pretty cool

but if you let them do anything stupid, you’ll be in big trouble since you’re the only adult there. Just sayin.

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by scoot on Oct 8, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I don’t want to be the one that let Stan Musial’s grandkids do something stupid.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 8, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

tuna melt sandwiches oh nooooo

wait.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his grandson plays baseball at Truman

Wonder if he was one of the ones suspended for hazing/alcohol or whatever because of a party before the semester began.

by leefyg on Oct 8, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have got to be shitting me

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NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

damnit

try again.

you have got to be shitting me
cause that is totes awesome.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

these automatic video clips on cardinals.com are awesome

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Was I imagining

that TLR made a long non-sensical statement about the squirrelly and torty alluding to the possibility that they are shacking up? I find it hysterical that these memes are being uttered by TLR on national TV in a post-game interview. What a year

Just win

by The Duke on Oct 8, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I hope not

The squirtle was bad luck in game 3.

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he did.

this is before that live TV memeblurtation

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/st-louis-cardinals-grounsdkeepers-take-on-squirrels-after-nlds-incidents-100711

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR also making other decisions that day.......
It was a day that began when La Russa woke up at 10, and was so antsy, he started walking the downtown city streets. It was "kind of dangerous,’’ he said laughing, with fans recognizing him on the street, vowing he would go to bed a loser.

Am I the only one who thinks of his age and goes “…uh oh.”

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

repost

Via BoDog.com, here are your first-round series prices:

Rangers -170 over the Rays (150)
Yankees -150 over the Tigers (130)
Brewers -170 over the Diamondbacks (150)
Phillies -300 over the Cardinals (250)

Odds to win the 2011 World Series

Philadelphia Phillies: 7/4
New York Yankees: 4/1
Detroit Tigers: 7/1
Milwaukee Brewers: 15/2
Tampa Bay Rays: 8/1
Texas Rangers: 8/1
Arizona Diamondbacks: 14/1
St. Louis Cardinals: 14/1

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/extramustard/hotclicks/09/30/rachel-reynolds-baseball-playoff-odds-predictions/index.html#ixzz1aD6PkRjy

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 8, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

vibe

spent most of the season feeling a 2008 vibe about this team, the blown saves etc

now………………2006 vibe…………… the abysmal grizzled veteran reliever being dumped for a younger more effective closer, the trade deadline middle infield upgrade…..

by vances law on Oct 8, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

at times in the early season when

guys like D.D were getting it done it had the 06 vibe, then they began to suck, then they started to click..this team is way hotter than that team was though

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 8, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep. this team is super hott!

Skip is hotter than like everyone on the 2006 team. Holliday is so much better looking than the whole 2006 outfield. Westbrook has those eyes. Theriot’s got the whole “pirate” thing going, chicks dig David Freese. Motte is sexy in that biker type of way. This is a very handsome team.

That’s what you were talking about right? Right?

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by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

JAIME GARCIA

caliente

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh for sure

it had nothing to do with playing the game

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 8, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa

check out the mothership home page

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

...I think...

looking for proof

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Oct 8, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay

then forget it

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Oct 8, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just mean

that i wasn’t expected a big ole video of yadi and ozzie hitting home runs or waino striking bitches out

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

you did not expect it....? hmm.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh...Aaron Heilman.

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by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those videos have been playing for about a week now

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by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

good lord joe buck is terrible

sound a little more bored by it all, could you joe?

by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"

by KlausChadman on Oct 8, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that's his gimmick...

I guess good announcing isn’t hereditary…

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't hate Joe Buck.

maybe it’s sentimental. But i like that he gets out of the way of the game. he’s on TV, alot of talking isn’t necessary, I think he lets the drama of the game take over. Watching his replays aren’t the most exciting though.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I like that part of his style.

He doesn’t generally say more than he needs to to describe the action, which is good. But he’s so, so bad at conveying excitement. He seems genuinely bored by sports, like he’s just announcing the results of two random number-generators.

Wait…

by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i feel bad for him, he'll never get out from under his dads shadow

and no matter what, people from STL will get on him for not sticking up for the Cards enough, and everyone else will call him a homer

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 8, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wh

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 1:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

When does the WS lottery for tickets begin?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 1:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I got my condolences email this morning.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the world series?

Crap

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 2:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, for the World Series.

The raffle was for both the NLCS and the World Series.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

the mothership is saying

that tlr hasn’t picked his game 1 starter yet

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

they're waiting for the tortoise to pick

it takes a while

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooo

Intrigue?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 1:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Again TLR is using the communications arm of the organization to a perceived strategic advantage over Milwaukee.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every team does it to some extent

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by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

or he simply doesn't want jaime thinking or answering questions about.

the guy is pretty protective of his young pitchers. particularly for keeping the pressure at a minimum in the post-season. not sure why that is …

Do it for Torty.
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by Oedipa Maas on Oct 8, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

this... what is this. tears?

how strange.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

the braves just had some tough luck down the stretch

i think it would be quite a feat to lose hanson and jurrjens and still be able to make the postseason

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would've have mattered, really...

they would’ve been swept. Now, I can enjoy the Philly schadenfreude with a clear conscious.

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by DavetheDawg on Oct 8, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whelp

It looks like if Mayor Nutter once some budwieser, he’ll have to go down to the corner store and get it.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

"the team puts its best on the field night after night"

I’m pretty torn on this one. mainly re: skip schumaker. but he made it rather difficult to complain about him starting (well, in cf, yeah I can complain). now it seems skippy is out with an injury (unless there has been some updates I’ve missed after sleeping in today). I do like Punto and Furcal mif…. it is very nice to see elite (or near elite) defense up the middle finally in 2011. good timing for it as well.

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Splits

Skippy

.287/ .334 / .347 / .682

Jay

.299 / .347 / .432 / .779

I don’t get it either. Only thing that makes any sense would be if Tony thought Jay would be completely overmatched by Halladay, if Jay is banged up worse than skip was at the start.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

in retrospect

Jay looked fine out there. I think Tony was playing head-to-heads against Halladay and got away with it.

No way Schumaker catches that ball Utley hit.

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by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was rewarding skip for his play

since carp obviously demanded punto at 2b

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony said it had to do with Jay looking overmatched against Halladay this year and earlier in the series

And that Schu and Punto had had relative success against Halladay before. No surprise there, standard SSS analysis by TLR.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I think I disagree somewhat with all the folks that give no consideration at all

to head to head matchups as useful data. I understand that SSS by definition means we can’t use asymptotic properties of the sampling distribution. But what are we trying to make inference on, after all? If we were to look at just the average across all pitchers and all ballparks, then we would not be trying to predict the outcome of a head-to-head matchup, i.e. the population then becomes the match up against all pitchers faced in a season and not vs. Halladay. So SSS is one problem with using head-to-head matchups even though the sample is from the correct population, i.e. skip vs. Halladay. But the wrong population is a problem with using a sample from across all pitchers, i.e. we assume that AB vs. each pitcher is distributed identically! That’s not correct either since surely every pitcher has different stuff. How do we properly combine both the average batting and head-to-head data? Maybe use some sort of empirical Bayes analysis?

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think part of the issue is that the question, "is Batter X

A good hitter?" Is much more clearly relevant than " is batter X a good hitter against pitcher Y?"

A better way to look at matchups might be to look characteristically at the hitter and at the pitcher. If Pitcher Y has a great slider, is Batter X terrible with sliders? Here, it might be useful to look at scouting data.

I would be much, much happier to hear tony la russa say, “batter X is resting today because he’s 1-14 against pitcher Y. Batter X is having trouble adjusting to breaking balls and Pitcher Y is just deadly with a breaking ball” than hear “he’s 1-14 against this guy so he’s sitting.”

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by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 5:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I am not sure. I think the question, "Is batter X a good hitter?" is a longer

term question for making roster decisions. I think the question, “Is batter X a good hitter vs. pitcher Y?” Should be the question asked when deciding the lineup. I think we acknowledge the fact that the latter is a much more difficult question to answer. I think the scenario you presented w/ a great slider pitcher vs. a poor slider hitter does make sense. But isn’t pitching a lot more complicated than just fastball vs. .breaking balls?, i.e. location, sequence, speed differential, release point, movement, sharpness of break, consistency, deception, arm movement, etc. If so, then wouldn’t it make sense to look at the end result than trying to control for say 10+ factors?
I am not trying to defend TLR. I find him often indefensible. But just trying to brainstorm over methodological issues.

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

reasons like that make perfect sense.

Sometimes I wonder whether Tony makes decisions like this and doesn’t actually explain the real reason. He’ll just cite the matchup stats and not include whatever scouting info he has to go along with it.

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by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he does just that.

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt it.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

why?

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because I'm sure some writer on VEB would have found that by now.

Or someone. Cards fans have a LOT of smart people that write about them and I’m sure someone, anyone, would have noticed that there’s a trend to his subs.

Unfortunately, all of the reasons, can be summed up by the personal matchups in 10 plate appearances or more (or even less sometimes!)

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

They write about the hitters using video all the time

I think it would be pretty informative if one had a video of every PA against every player. I have no idea if they actually do any video data reduction or just review the raw video. But even if they do do that, then I would think that it would be pretty informative. I’ll take 10 PA’s on video over zero match up data any day.

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I'll take career over matchups every day.

A good hitter who is 1-10 off a pitcher is better than a mediocre hitter who is 4-10 off a pitcher.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are not necessary disagreeing, right?

Career data and matchup data are both informative. You are saying that a small sample matchup data should not be the sole data for making decisions. I am saying that matchup data should not be completely discounted.

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh...

Well I guess yeah we agree. It completely depends on how the hitter looked though.

If he was 1-10 with six strikeouts, then yeah it’s probably not a bad idea to sit him.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering that Papa Dunk tracks each individual pitch via his

multi-colored, log-scaled, polar-coordinate pitching charts (FSN showed it once and it looked extremely impressive), it would not surprise me that someone else would be tracking the batting performances by pitch.

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm certainly not in favor of giving no weight to matchups

Indeed, I give heavy weight to platoon match ups when I say Theriot should only hit LHP and Schu should only hit RHP.

But I disagree that the way TLR often uses matchbox- X inferior hitter is 4-10 against Y pitcher and Z superior hitter is 2-7 so TLR starts X hitter – is any sort of worthy analysis.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. I think most would agree that there should be some weight given.

I think we agree that the difficult question is, “How much weight and why?”

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just bought Game 6 NLCS tickets in Milwauke

I think the Cardinals have won the last 11 road games I’ve attended, including Game 1 of the 06 WS in Detroit.

Can’t wait! But I’ll be ok with us punching our WS ticket before that game if they feel like it.

by matt man on Oct 8, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

There supposedly had been some rumors

About a Votto for Bautista trade (other players were involved as well) Votto is from Canada iirc and it would open a spot for Yonder.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dynasty ending
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Rival executives getting signals that the Reds won’t shop Joey Votto — but that they are fully prepared to listen to offers.

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by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

why?

did they give up on next year already?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

"listen to offers" is a meaningless phrase

Everyone listens to offers. Doesn’t mean the Reds are going to seriously think about trading him.

FIRE EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Oct 8, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

we were listening to offers on Colby

after years of “don’t even bring him up or I’ll hang up on you.”

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

seems to me Mozeliak was trying to get rid of him

and that Votto isn’t unpopular like colby is

FIRE EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Oct 8, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

the 1B market in the offseason was already going to be crazy.....

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by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Martinez, Adams, Jay, and pick two prospects not named Miller

for Votto. Sayonara Pujols, make a run at Reyes. Profit!!!!

by guayzimi on Oct 8, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Votto is Canadian...

that’s what they’re doing up there. Don’t think they won’t target him this winter…

by guayzimi on Oct 8, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmmmm

I just had a long conversation with my brother (a cubs fan) last night. he really wants them to get Votto somehow. interesting.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is intriguing. I've heard other commentators

Suggest this. For the right package it could make sense. Votto is a great value but in just dollar amounts he’s no longer “cheap” by any stretch. You could put yonder alonso at first, and if the trade got you a good, cheap starter and a shortstop, you’d have a great team.

I’d watch the pujols/fielder negotiations. Some team is going to come out on the wrong end of the haggling, and be desperate to please the fan base.

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by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 5:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

...

tigers in 6, cards in 6

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by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 8, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bulls 402-0

but Jordan will be held under 200 points.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why ask the question...

if one of the two answers is unacceptable? The Brewers have more talent than the Cardinals. They appeared that way on paper back in April, then they proved it on the field. They also have the biggest home field advantage in baseball and four of the seven games are at Miller Park. Why wouldn’t I take the Brewers? Obviously I hope it works out otherwise…

Also, this.

by guayzimi on Oct 8, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

well what about this

philly’s NLDS chances:

this

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

tigers in 3

Do it for Torty.
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by Oedipa Maas on Oct 8, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rangers in 6, Cardinals in 6

I like the Rangers lineup alot. After dealing with Philly rotation, Brewers will seem like a break. (Since I’m still within the 24 hour rule, I reserve the right to flip-flop)

by illcowboy on Oct 8, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a Mizzou fan, I am torn. Kinsler or Scherzer? I think I'll root for both.

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fredbird needs to go away

New mascots: Tory and rally squirrel.

yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man

by sociopath on Oct 8, 2011 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

oh god no

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

The leather jacket is how you know she's a badass.

I think this would help. Toughen up the team’s image.

by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that the girl from Saved By the Bell?

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by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

when the show really sucked.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

no she came in toward the end. kelly kapowski and jesse spano randomly left for a season

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, OK

That was a show I’d tell everyone how much it sucked, but I’d watch it anyway. Somehow, I couldn’t turn away.

by illcowboy on Oct 8, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

no shit?

Never really woulda thought Berk would actually say that. They must REALLY not like them.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure nyjer morgan being a d-bag to carp earlier this season has something to do with it

but then again, they do a lot of things that make you scratch your head.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 8, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember that Lucroy called out TLR on his complaint about the lighting in Miller.

The Brewers hit Pujols on the hand and then Motte hit Braun. And that’s just this season.

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

And iirc

Motte missed Braun by throwing behind him, and then on the next pitch managed to hit him in the thigh? Or was this another intentional toss I’m thinking of

by leefyg on Oct 8, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Should be a chippy series. I wish Morgan wasn't involved, because I genuinely really dislike him.

Everything else in the “rivalry” just adds to the fun, in my opinion.

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he seems like a dude who would always find a nice way to word something

unless there really were none. That’s it, T-Plush – YOU’VE PISSED OFF THE BERK!!!

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's awesome.

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by RiverRat on Oct 8, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can describe the brewers in one word

DOUCHE

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by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I really dislike them.

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by RiverRat on Oct 8, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only thing is, prince fielder seems like an alright guy

by the way, anyone see that interview with him and his kids on MLBN?

i realized that his kids were sitting two rows in front of me at game 3 of the NLDS in phoenix. can’t miss that hair.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

No that was Will Smith's son

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by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like a few people on the Brewers -

Fielder, Counsell, Wolf, don’t mind Weeks

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by monkeysareblue on Oct 8, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

noted buffoon and Milwaukee resident Tom Haudricourt, upon being asked

 whether he’s such an incompetent hack of a sportswriter that he put three first basemen in front of Albert Pujols in the 2008 MVP vote: “That’s correct.”

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by mattyp on Oct 8, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAT

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by TBender on Oct 8, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That guy is a fool

he still tweets almost daily about the Braun HBP incident. can’t get over it to save his life.

by Wombat x on Oct 8, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure they acted the same with the Astros too

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

this should read "GOB" though

"Note to the trappers at Busch Stadium, I cannot be caught. I am under the protection of the GOBS."

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

they should just sell

squirrel burgers.

om nom nom.

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by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I take it you've never been to Arkansas...

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, actually

and i hestitate to ask why it is that you ask…

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by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

you really need to go sometime

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suggest floating the Buffalo River for a stretch.

There’s some really nice scenery along that river. And the drive thru that part of the Ozarks is pretty cool from what I remember.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta give them time to get over the hangover.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

glad I don't really have this problem

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

@AnswerDave Dave Brown
Zack Greinke just said Brewers don’t like Chris Carpenter because some of his attitude is “phony” and he yells too much

"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter

by cardsfan59 on Oct 8, 2011 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there a softer side to Carp that no one but the Brewers have ever seen?

I’m confused.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

His attitude is phony?

Did they not watch the game last nite?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't even understand that

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone else to add to people on that team that piss me off

Granted not so much pissed just very confused.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe i'm wrong, but i can't remember anyone from our team ever singling out another player like that.

berkman might say “that is correct” when asked if we don’t like the brewers. but he’s never going to say, “we don’t like nyjer morgan because he is arrogant and has no respect of the game or its players.”

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think fingers were pointed at the Reds last year...

granted that was a different story.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

when somebody calls you a whiny little bitch

fingers will get pointed, usually.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or drop kicks you with spikes on...

as always you stay classy Cincinnati…

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i was not counting that, because something specifically prompted it.

but like right now, if someone asked carp what he thought of greinke, i can’t imagine carp saying anything personal about him. i could be wrong.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly

several Cardinals singled out Morgan after the tiff between he and Carp in St. Louis.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, after the time that Morgan tried to kill bryan anderson in an unnecessary collision

and the time that Morgan bizarrely somehow managed to spike albert in ST.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't about kill, but it was a cheap shot.

At least Anderson had enough sense to stay out in front of the plate.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

*know

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we talking about the same Morgan that was suspended 7+8 games

for his week-long crime spree? The one that thew a ball at a fan in Philly (this one probably wasn’t malicious), clocked Anderson, ended Brett Haye’s season, called out his manager, was clothe lined by Gaby Sanchez (BTW, Gaby would rock in WWE Raw)?

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay i stand corrected.

its possible they occurred and i just missed it.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pujols said something or other about Morgan after the dip-throwing thing

can’t remember what it was though.

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by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was in response to Morgan calling Albert "Alberta", IIRC

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by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, something along the lines of

“He’s a talented player, its a shame his shenanigans take away from his talent”

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by scoot on Oct 8, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is silly.

I suppose Greinke would tell us that Morgan’s attitude is 100% authentic?

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

his is just aided by imbalanced brain chemistry

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

100% asshat?

yeah, I’d say so.

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by cschepers on Oct 8, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, fuck mentally ill people

if you can’t keep your chemicals balanced, you have no credibility with me

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

personally I can't stand orphans or widows

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by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I have always suspected that handicapped people just aren't trying hard enough

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by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

F'in Ryan Howard didn't even make to 1B.

f’in quitter.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Short bus to the hospital.

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by vico on Oct 8, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah several years ago a young kid playing pro baseball felt a little lost and frustrated and didn't want anything to do with baseball

Then came back and became an All-Star, Cy Young winner, and one of baseball’s best pitchers. But don’t let that get in the way of a nice potshot.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 8, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He suffered from depression and social anxiety order

That’s not “feeling a little lost and frustrated” -

Also, I don’t know why I or anyone else shouldn’t potentially discount the weight or credibility of his comments, depending on what he says. I discount Ron Artest’s comments. I discount Ricky Williams’ comments. I discount Mike Tyson’s comments.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

To me the funny thing is that Greinke was not just expressing his own opinion on Carpenter

but that of the Brewers, saying that Milwaukee doesn’t like Carp because they think his yelling is phony. And yet folks are attacking Greinke personally for the opinion that he shares with his teammates.

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depression and Social Anxiety are things that everyone goes through at one point

Greinke’s was more extreme than most.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, clinical depression and social anxiety disorder

Are not things that “everyone” goes through. These are diagnoses that require treatment, and very often prescribed medication.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I suppose I'm talking out of my ass

But I’ve definitely gone through phases of thought where depression or social anxiety have hit. I would have to think everyone has, so I’m having trouble seeing those disorders as being a product of a fundamentally different brain.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 9, 2011 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha wow

Everyone has mental issues to some degree. Greinke’s were with dealing with the pressure of playing big league baseball. But I suppose that totally makes his opinion on other players invalid.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I apologized for the comment above.

I don’t even know where I was going with that. I didn’t like what Greinke said about Carp and I got caught in the moment. No excuses. My grandmother is in the late stages of Alzheimer’s, so I know how devestating mentl illness can be. I’ll be more careful to proofread and think about what I’m posting.

by illcowboy on Oct 8, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry about it.

Everybody has made ill-advised comments. I have made several, myself. It’ll go away.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah my apologies, I shouldn't have commented until I read through the thread

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 9, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Phony is about the last thing I'd call Carp.

Asshole, douche, etc. I can understand but phony?

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I don't get that

ask the Phillies how phony Carpenter is….

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by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zack Greinke probably just hates ANY yelling.

Along with loud noises, bright lights, rooms that are too hot or too cold, being looked in the eye, clashing colors, most smells, and your stupid questions. Also he can’t pee when you are standing there. YOU’RE A BIG FAT PHONY AND ZACK GREINKE IS GOING TO RUN AWAY OUT WEST.

(I’m going to stop making fun of mental health issues, now)

by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

how does he feel about squirtles?

Be afraid, Zack. Be very afraid.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok Zach, I dont like you now either.

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by cj2k on Oct 8, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I feel like Greinke's nice shy-guy persona is being corrupted over there.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

think you're on to something here

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by vico on Oct 8, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a Scott Baio short film coming up somewhere in here

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's how Gibby was viewed.

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Also
And he didn’t seem to give a fuck.

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by TBender on Oct 9, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the first round were 7 games, do we still win that series?

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The current format really sucks for the better team

But good for baseball, I guess?

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by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it goes seven and is a toss-up.

I don’t think much separates the Phillies, Cardinals, and Brewers.

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

TBH, the cards had no business losing game 3.

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by RiverRat on Oct 8, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why the play games inside television sets.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

one could argue Phils had no business losing game 2

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by scoot on Oct 8, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like that argument.

But still, in game 2, the Cards had 13 hits to the phillies 6, and drew 4 walks to their 3. game three, they were outhit 12-7 and 4 walks to 2. The cards outplayed them game 2 – 5. imo.

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by RiverRat on Oct 8, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure, sure

But redistribute the runs from game 1 to the others, and the Phillies can sweep.

by hotwater2 on Oct 8, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carp probably doesn't start game 2 in a 7-game series

That changes pretty much everything… we could easily have been up 3-1 or down 1-3 after game 4.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

back to back wins by the Phillies is not very likely.

by guayzimi on Oct 8, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I think so

considering they won 2 of 3 in Philly.

….adding, that means they took 5 of their last 7 games @ CBP. Pretty impressive given the strength of that team.

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by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

What kind of question is this?

Maybe??

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember this one?
“Where still n 1st and I hope those crying birds injoy watching tha Crew in tha Playoffs!!! Aaaaahhhh!!!”

Morgan didn’t realize at the time that St. Louis would be watching them from across the field in the opposing dugout….

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by Red Blazer on Oct 8, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

hell neither did I...

This is gonna be sweet…

They have to be psyched out a little bit especially after we upset Philly.

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by Red Blazer on Oct 8, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing that spelling really wasn't his main focus in school.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's tweetbonics

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by Red Blazer on Oct 8, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's bordering on racist.

I think…

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have something against birds?

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by Red Blazer on Oct 8, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

pot, meet kettle.

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by RiverRat on Oct 8, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

f'in Bosnians

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm shocked you brought that up.

SHOCKED

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it ever for athletes?

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

guess not always

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

if BB writes like most engineers I know

it probably wasn’t ;)

Allen Craig, OTOH, might be a better fit for this conversation, since he (1) actually graduated college and (2) with a degree in social sciences, rather than engineering.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now, now. Why are you picking on us engineers? We can write.

It just involve many greek letters and mathematical symbols.

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who was it that was saying the Cardinals were the most hated team in baseball?

From the outside it would appear the Brewers would be the natural choice, and I would say that if I didn’t root for one of their rivals.

by leefyg on Oct 8, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, it might be the Cards

Carp, Tony et al. seem to do more than their fair share of jawing on and off the field.

by Phizzle on Oct 8, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tend to agree that a lot of people aren't fans...

More of the good stuff for us though.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I would not be at all surprised.

In addition to those two, I’ve always suspected that Pujols is kind of a dick.

Everybody loves Berkman, though. Gotta love Berkman.

by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, sadly...

…the “complainers” label doesn’t drop from the sky. TLR always seems right in the middle of some faux-controversy about bad lighting or some shit.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 8, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or rubbed balls. OTOH, the Kenny Roger's secret recipe on his palm was totally

not brought up by TLR during the WS. Maybe because of his Leland relationship?

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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leyland and Tavarez.

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

the way I see this....

if Brandon Phillips were on my team I’d be a major fan. If Nyjer Morgan was on my team, I’d still think he was a jackass.

Put Carp, Pujols, Molina, Holliday etc on anybody else’s team and watch the jerseys fly off the shelves.

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by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

ayup

I mean, don’t get me wrong, I hate Brandon Phillips. But I’d love him if he was my team. Morgan. Ugh.

Grit != flat out sucking.

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I kind of like Brandon Phillips.

/Be gentle.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Brandon Phillips, too.

He’s like a professional wrestling heel the way he hams it up about St. Louis.

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then again, I've lost nearly ALL of the stigma from last year for the Reds.

As far as I’m concerned, the deep hatred rivalry we had with them is long gone for me now.

Seriously, I feel no ill will towards the Reds at all.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a strong dislike for Cueto

after he kicked LaRue in the head and Carp in the back. That was bush league no matter how you cut it.

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

but BP is actually very good

morgan is is a good defender getting extremely luck on balls in play this season

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? No way. The Brewers are VERY likable.

I suspect 80% of fans who otherwise don’t care about any NL Central team will be pulling for the Brewers.

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until they lose to them in extra innings

and morgan pulls out the beast

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by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Morgan is a piece of work.

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of people hate them because of "Beast Mode"

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd expect most non-Brewers/non-Cards fans

are going to root for the Brewers, cause of the novelty. Cards have been in the playoffs repeatedly the last 10 years, and won the whole thing once.

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by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Needless to say,

I’m not wiping it up until this season is over.

by Phizzle on Oct 8, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is beautiful

please, pick up a can of spray shellac from home depot and make it permanent.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

tortoise of turin?

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by sportsman on Oct 8, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

You should use a towel for that in the future

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lance lynn!

@chrisduncan11 chris duncan
Look for lance Lynn and McClellan to both be on. Westbrook off and Schumaker off with broken toe and pulled ribcage

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH

wait, why no sanchez?

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Oct 8, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm, he followed it up with a tweet saying this is just a hunch he has.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The pitching coach's son has "hunch" as to the bullpen makeup.

Yes, I’m sure everyone reading his tweets will believe him.

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm...........I'm not going to say what I'm thinking........just not.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

psh

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Oct 8, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

He must feed his soft-throwing redhead fetish.

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read that as Schu has broken toe and pulled ribcage

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by scoot on Oct 9, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

me too

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by RiverRat on Oct 9, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please no McCllelan

I BEG OF YOU!

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not?

The staff clearly wasn’t giving up enough homers in the LDS. They team created a need for KMac.

by hangingfromatree on Oct 8, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lynn? Seriously?

I hadn’t heard anything about him being anywhere near ready to throw again.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

started throwing bullpens last week of season

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by scoot on Oct 9, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

so um...

how did westbrook break his toe?

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by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

hanging out with Freese in the weight room.

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by RiverRat on Oct 8, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Freesitis - airborne viral infection,

contagious form of Baldellulism.

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by monkeysareblue on Oct 8, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

KMac stepped on his foot with his spikes on.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

CCDNGAF

And decided to luggage his foot.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 8, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH MY GOODNESS! YYYYYYYES!

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah. Reading more, it's just a hunch.

I would be mildly enthusiastic to see Lance Lynn on the roster.

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry that's my fault. i didn't see the other tweet at the time.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're such a troll, IHB!

heh

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sanchez.

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by RiverRat on Oct 8, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

tough choice

I think I’d feel slightly more comfortable with westy

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

chris duncan as the source

is almost as bad as strauss.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 8, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

how so?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, Strauss is a better source than Duncan...

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

how so?

I remember Duncan calling the Lynn Call up and the Sanchez call up. I don’t see why he should be discredited as a source.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

I’ve never thought Strauss was a bad source though. I mean when it comes to pure roster moves and such and such.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh me neither

I don’t see any reason to discredit any of their roster moves insight

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

f'n zoomzoom

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ladies Love

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Handegg alert!

Sweet Myrtle the Squirtle, Oklahoma State has 56 points at halftime against Kansas. Their QB has thrown for 5 TDs (at halftime).

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Do home teams provide the batboys?

Cards batboy in dugout didn’t looked too thrilled that the Cards won.

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by vico on Oct 8, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, if everybody else got to get hammered and you had to clean up the mess

during the party, you wouldn’t be jumping up and down either.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I'd gladly clean up all the Torty and Buschy turds, man sweat, shredded jerseys

and Ariel Brut and Budweiser wash in the clubhouse.

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by vico on Oct 8, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

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by vico on Oct 8, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr. Tanner doesn't travel? hmm.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

nats annoucer is pretty annoying

“he stepped on the mask and maybe hurt himself.”

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, Ray Knight trying to do analysis

when he had no fucking idea what was going on.

That hit on Yadi was really bush, too. Ramming him was more important than touching the plate.

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by vico on Oct 8, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, not Yadi.

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by vico on Oct 8, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's awful.

Seriously, what the fuck did he have against Bryan Anderson?

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talking smack

i think it’s funny when teams do it, but when my Team i root for does it it makes me squeamish.

For example I’m a bears fan and usually any time Urlacher talks crap before a game, it’s not going to end well…He doesn’t specifically do it a lot like a T.O. or somebody, but he has…a la last yr before N.E. yuck…

so let the crew talk smack and the birds stay silent…. I’d prefer it that way

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 8, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

sounds cliche

but i cringe any time a player on a team i like does it. i do think that regardless of what teams say, there is some fruit to the bulletin board talk

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 8, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i grew up in central IL

closer to STL. than CHI, and after the NFL cards left..

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by punchinjudy on Oct 8, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

similar situation

I grew up near moline IL

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

same here

i know quite a few cards/bears fans actually

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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 8, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greinke haha you pansy

haha he doesn’t like Carp because “he yells too much.” aww you poor thing. I know about his social anxiety issues, I doubt he meant anything by it. More funny than anything else.

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for someone who had anxiety with a team like the royals

imagine how he’s going to feel this series…

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by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 8, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I'd be pretty happy if we never mentioned his anxiety issues again.

He’s a great pitcher. Let’s try to beat him.

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not disagreeing with you

everyone feels the need to mention his anxiety issue when they confront his comments about carpenter. it’s irrelevant and it’s terrible logic

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I know. I was agreeing with you!

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree that its irrelevant.

His history with anxiety issues makes it logical to think he is NOT someone who would make a comment to draw attention to himself. Thus his comment shouldn’t be taken as if he was “taking a shot” or whatever

by Wombat x on Oct 8, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

what doesn't make sense,

I was clarifying I didn’t mean I think social anxiety disorder is funny, rather I think the comment is funny. I don’t even see why the first post needed clarification, its obvious the way it written what I meant.

by Wombat x on Oct 8, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

and this isn't t plush we are dealing with

rather the opposite. he is not the kind of guy who would say anything to intentionally draw attention to himself. he hates even giving postgame interviews.

by Wombat x on Oct 8, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

what doesn't make sense

is that “he yells too much” isn’t offensive in the context of the speaker having social anxiety disorder. i don’t understand the relationship

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure he was taking a shot. He meant what he said, and if we think he's being a jerk, we should say so (though I don't think he is).

Honestly, I think he made a mistake in two ways:
1. No point in saying it. It’s clear they all think that.
2. It’s not phony. Carp really is that guy!

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

not what I meant...

the quote that he thinks he yells too much is funny to me. the only reason I mentioned the social anxiety is to point out I doubt he meant anything by it given his history.

by Wombat x on Oct 8, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm either in the minority or the awful, awful majority here...

…but I think it’s at least a little funny. Or better said, it can be, if done without malice.

Like, Zack Greinke is a wonderful pitcher and by all accounts a really good guy. He had a medical issue and it was handled very well by everyone involved, and it appears he has a handle on it. I think that’s great.

I also think I’m going to make an occasional Holden Caulfield joke about Zack Greinke, especially because of the “phony” line (I can’t not do it). This is not because I think social anxiety disorder carries a stigma, or is inherently funny (DURR HE’S SHY DURR). It is because it’s a fact — a medical problem that is in the past — about Zack Greinke on which jokes can sometimes be hung. I also crack jokes about Lance Armstrong’s balls, when appropriate.

Also, I hope this gets super contentious and divides the commentariat deeply. Fun times ahead.

by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

YOU'RE AN AWFUL PERSON AND SHOULD BE ASHAMED!

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That gets a rec.

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by vico on Oct 8, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you're saying that the Brewers were molested by their high school teacher?

Or like, almost molested, or maybe they just misinterpreted a totally innocent thing?

Interestinger and interestinger.

by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

aggghhh where the heck is the Laughing Man avatar?

it’s been hours

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

or was it changed out already

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

it could be funny if it were relevant

like when braun called him awkward when he tried to do the bear claw thing. that was kind of funny. but when he says carpenter is phony and the response is “durr, he has anxiety” it can’t be very funny because it doesn’t make any sense

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guy seems more like he is autistic rather than anxious

he just seems to be moving through the world completely to beat of his own drum

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by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

your missing the point

the quote itself is funny. saying “he yells too much” is funny to me.

by Wombat x on Oct 8, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I mean, I'm with you.

I think you explained yourself fine, and your comment is getting misread. Sanctimony will do that to people.

by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't think it was poorly phrased.

I thought the meaning was pretty clearly “that’s a weird thing to say, and Greinke’s history indicates he’s not just stirring the pot.” So I read you as a little… let’s say trigger-happy, yes. My bad — I’ll take your word for it that it was an honest misread.

by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can kind of see why you would find that funny

i don’t see why that statement is funny specifically because of greinke’s anxiety

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

the part about his social anxiety was meant to be seperate from the quote being funny

i guess i worded it poorly. the part mentioning his anxiety has nothing to do with it being funny, but just his history with anxiety issues make me think he would not be someone who would try to draw attention to himself

by Wombat x on Oct 8, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently hungover people have social anxiety

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand what you're saying.

Your original post wasn’t clear (the “I know he has social anxiety issues” was preceded by a sarcastic “poor thing.” Can you see how it was mis-read? And it has nothing to do with sanctimony. Anyway, now people are talking about it more in general than regarding your post.

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huge difference between shy and social anxiety.

A person suffering from social anxiety will often feel like everyone is constantly judging them. It can be incredibly debilitating. Calling it shyness is disingenuous.

by Houdinimachine on Oct 9, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

The reaction to this statement is completely bizarre.

For the life of me I cannot understand why Cardinals fans are attacking Greinke for stating the reason why the Brewers—a team that consists of many more folks than just Greinke—dislike Chris Carpenter. Greinke appears to share the opinion, but it isn’t just his, so why would we attack him and his social anxiety disorder in retaliation for the Brewers’ collective opinion of Carp?

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you're saying a little now.

The video is pretty funny. It’s just funny the way he says it.

Damnit, I like Greinke more now.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 8, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting
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Tony La Russa’s Cardinals made the 5th-fewest pitching changes in the NL, by the way. Surprising.

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

that is surprising to say the least.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Cards had very few complete games, right?

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by vico on Oct 8, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

CGs

PHI 18
TBR 15
LAA 12
SEA 12
TX 10
FL 7
LAD 7
MIN 7
STL 7

4-way tie for 6th.

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by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouuldn't say "shocking."

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by monkeysareblue on Oct 8, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

(it's electric!)

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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOOGIEWOOGIEWOOGIE

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 8, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like this would primarily be a function of how many innings a team's starters pitched

I’m guessing we’re near the top (though certainly behind Philadelphia) in innings pitched by starters if we’re fifth in fewest pitching changes. This would account for TLR’s predilection for swapping pitchers (though he probably isn’t all that different from other managers) while accounting for this stat.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. pitchers pitching deep into games.

2. 5th fewest in the NL is only out of 18 teams so it exaggerates how few.

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by hazel on Oct 8, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does it seem like Nyjer has a special disdain for the Cardinals in particular?

It just seems like he has, regardless of what team he was playing for. I have a theory that something happened in his formative years growing up in the bay area that fostered this sentiment. Did TLR run over his bike during his A’s tenure?

On a personal note, I’ll always remember Al Hrabosky as a douche from when I attended a Cards signing when I was 9 years old. I was over the moon, just got signed pictures from Terry Pendleton, Tom Lawless and Curt Ford when next in line was Al Hrabosky. Being unawares as to his ethnicity and perceived mental state, I took the opportunity to ask “why do they call you the Mad Hungarian?” He just rolled his eyes, and said “get movin’ kid!” Dick.

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by peppermartin on Oct 8, 2011 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Jerk.

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by vico on Oct 8, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably Al *and* Horton.

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also possible Nyjer may have lost a childhood pet

to one of TLR’s infamous midnight pet-snatching raids.

TLR loves animals.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 8, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keith Law picks Cards in 6

and Rangers in 6. Might agree with both of those actually

by Wombat x on Oct 8, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm hoping cards in five.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 8, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where?

Don’t see it on espn.com, but I might be bad at looking.

by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

thuh twidder

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by Wombat x on Oct 8, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh oh

i like what happens when all the experts predict the cards to fail

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just took a quick gander throught this thread

it took a relatively dark turn regarding mental illness…

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by beer me on Oct 8, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

no one really like carp

didn’t you get the memo.

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by beer me on Oct 8, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure, they were great last night

just be wary that Flim might repost them across the interwebs

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by hr on Oct 8, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just saw the interview with Greinke on mlb network

mental illness or not, idgaf.

He does appear to be a complete idiot, though

yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man

by sociopath on Oct 8, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

welllll...

he did miss a few starts at the beginning of the season because of an injury in a pickup basketball game, why dont you just ride a motorcycle without a helmet roethlisberger

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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 8, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

he does math for fun.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

mlb network is covering the brews

and that awful tweet by nyjer morgan…I think english teachers everywhere just puked.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 8, 2011 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

talks about Carp at 5:20

ignores the “why do the brewers hate him” bit.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, and the next video is TLR talking about Nyjer

Nyjer has a “revved up motor”. lol.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 8, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

here's greinke's whole press conference if anyone would like context

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19867075&topic_id=&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_19867075&v=3

i think the context helps. he was mostly speaking for his teammates. and i think the opinion of carpenter is a reasonable opinion for an opposing player to hold

by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

excited for this one. I think Verlander gets hit a but, he’s been giving up the longball lately

by Wombat x on Oct 8, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to go out tonight

but I had a little to much fun last night. totally worth it though.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 8, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ALCS Thread

HERE

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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

For anybody interested there's a site I go to where you can download torrents of Cards games

There’s not alot of games on here but it has all the playoff games. The formats vary but can all be played w/ VLC Player. There’s no seed raito and it is always super fast. Here’s the link for game 5 and you can search for other sports as well: http://sport-video.org.ua/SLCPP071011.html

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