stop me if you think that you've heard this one before
"phillies in three two!"
so there's this Team. a baseball Team. and they have a tough season. they lose their best pitcher before the season starts. their star player is laid up with maladies and slumps undetermined for months. he has his worst season ever.
and then the rest of the Team gets banged up. lots of trips to the disabled list, even for the remaining stars on the Team. the best remaining pitcher starts out in a funk of bad luck and can't seem to catch a break.
by the middle of the season, they're lucky to be hanging on to third place. the pirates (THE PIRATES!) of all teams are in first place. the Team looks in a funk. whole months pass where they play below .500 ball or barely break even.
the pirates begin to fade, but the brewers turn it on and go on an almost unprecedented winning streak. the Team is games and games out of first place in their division.
then august happens. september happens. the Team starts pulling down win after win. a lot of the weakest members of the Team get bumped for stronger ones.
by the middle of september, the division looks mostly out of reach, but the atlanta braves have started a collapse. from ten games out of the wild card, the Team inches closer, until the last game of the season.
in the final game, the Team demolishes their opponent behind their substitute ace. they wait expectantly to see the braves face the juggernaut - probably the best team in the league with a historically good rotation - to see if the Team goes right into the postseason or a one-game sudden death match with the braves. and the juggernaut puts the braves away.
the Team is in the postseason.
but then, the Team's first matchup is facing the juggernaut. a stacked lineup is merely the entree to a rotation that is not the best in the league, but the best in a decade. as the Team merely backed its way into the postseason, no one gives them much chance to beat the juggernaut.
but the Team rolls. the Team pushes. the Team puts its best on the field, night after night, making every game a contest. they force a game five.
and then, against anyone's predictions and working behind an improbable 3-hit complete game shutout by their substitute ace, they win.
that was a beautiful, unexpected thing. the game. the series. the whole last two months. it had its ups and downs, and times when i lost faith after the worst, most humiliating, most tony-la-russa losses (i have good hope i will never see corey patterson PINCH-HIT for the cardinals again). but the ride has been good; despite actually winning a very respectable 90 games, the regular season has much more the feel of the stumbling, fumbling 2006 team than the 2004 or 2005 team that glittered in talent. and maybe, given the respective outcomes, that's a good thing.
and for all that the powers that be have nightmares about a milwaukee-st. louis, texas-detroit postseason, i think the NLCS will be great baseball. the already potent rivalry between the two clubs is bound to get only better. the two clubs are pretty evenly matched. the cards' position players were a win or two better than the brewers', and the brewers pitching was about four wins better than the cardinals pitching. all-in-all, two pretty well matched teams. if anything, the advantage the brewers have in their rotation has come in large part from not having complete wastes of space at the back end. carpenter-garcia-jackson-lohse matches up pretty well with greinke-marcum-gallardo-wolf. the bullpen is a pretty clear win for the brewers, with rodriguez and axford looking like dynamite.
on paper this is a series that should go seven games. of course, as we've seen, baseball rarely works out the way it should on paper: hopefully, for poetic purposes, charlie manuel and joe girardi are gonna sit down and watch the LCS together.
all i can say is that i spent a fair amount of time thinking about what this post might look like if we won and what it might look like if we lost. i'm happy to be writing this post, rather than the other one. i am happy there will be more baseball next week for the cardinals, and that the dreariness of the off-season will be staved off a little further.
like taking pleasure in a sunny October day, half the joy in this tightrope baseball is knowing that it will soon be gone. and yet, enjoying the sun's warmth one day more makes that one day, that little warmth much sweeter.
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im near tears
is there any doubt in anyone’s eye that playoff baseball is by far the greatest spectacle in all of professional sports?
by zeruko on Oct 8, 2011 3:03 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
People who complain about long games
don’t understand the immense stress/joy of watching 300 pitches when every single one matters more than the 1000s thrown in the six months of mounting expectations combined.
by RasmustheRipper on Oct 8, 2011 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Very well said.
Many, many people simply just don’t understand this.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
yea, it's a spectacle alright.
it’ll be a bigger spectacle when they add more teams.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Oct 8, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Got my ticket to Game 4!
Section 127
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Oct 8, 2011 3:49 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I can't help but to say I'm a little jealous.
If I weren’t getting married this summer and weren’t pinching every fucking penny, right now I’d be looking in to how to get tickets to a game up in Milwaukee since I’m about an hour and a half drive from there.
but alas……
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
i was faced with the same decision in 06
decided to go to WS game 5 @ my wife’s urging.
Just cut a corner at the wedding. smaller center piece, nix the groom’s cake.
yeah. I feel like we've already cut about as many corners as possible and it's still not enough.
Ultimately, it’s not the end of the world if I didn’t get to go to a game. I still get to watch it all on the tv!
And that’s cool with me.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
i still don't understand why people don't elope to VEGAS or some place
then go on a honeymoon then have a big ass party when they get back. weddings are stupid
Balls
my wife and i have encouraged a number of couples to do just that
nobody’s listened so far. then they complain about how hard and stressful the wedding is to plan.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
That would be totally fine with me (and probably my fiance)
but there are a lot of people who want to share in the experience with us and I really can’t find that to be a bad thing.
It’s one day. We’ll be just fine.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
and that right there is the problem
society has made it to where people can’t just do what they want because they’ll piss off their family. everyone has to have a wedding, everyone had to be there to “share the love”. well i say F that, its your party do what you want & damn everyone else.
Balls
I wouldn't say "society" has made it that way
unless by “society” you mean practically every culture dating back to the birth of man.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
and I wouldn't say it's such a bad thing
that family and friends want to be there and be a part of our wedding day.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I'll leave a rally squirrel under my seat!
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Oct 8, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Math
If you flip a coin, it seems like a 4-2 result is just as likely as a 4-3 result.
CHRIS CARPENTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris Carpenter. Chris Carpenter.
CHRIS FUCKING CARPENTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 8, 2011 4:32 AM EDT reply actions 8 recs
(doesn't give a fuck)
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Can't get over it: We play for the NL Championship a team that we beat in the World Series.
Baseball is a funny game.
"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR
by vico on Oct 8, 2011 5:11 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
what are the other firsts, baseball trivialists?
Carp’s first 1-0 shutout
first time Carp and Halladay squared off, period
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
First time the Cards and Phillies have ever played in the postseason
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The Phillies don't exactly have a rich postseason history...
first team to 10k losses and all.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
At first that seems shocking,
but no NL teams played each other until the league was first split into divisions. The Phillies and Cards were in the NL East together in the initial divisional era, so they couldn’t ever play in the playoffs. It was only with expansion, three divisions and a wild card that it was even a possibility.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
oh, doesn't Furcal have first lead-off triples in same series?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
someone said yesterday
that was the Phil’s first 1-0 loss this year.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Can someone..
either direct me to a link (or if its one of the daily threads give me the date) or fill me in on why Garza’s name has been in the playoff threads so much. Obviously he said something, but I’m curious what he said.
Also, if no trouble, Rosenthal also said something to gain more Card’s fan disgust.
by DisplacedCardsFan on Oct 8, 2011 6:08 AM EDT reply actions
matt garza was reported to have asked in the lockerroom after a game
After a cubs victory against the cardinals, How it felt for the cardinals to have fucked themselves out of the playoffs.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 8, 2011 7:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really?
Well that explain it, thanks. I’m assuming it was the last series against the Cubs, I’ll go look it up.
by DisplacedCardsFan on Oct 8, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone have the caption of Torty and Buschy watching TV that they showed last night?
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
that was some epic photoshop
but they probably worked on that for days. VEB has a much shorter turnaround.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
recfreakinific
like taking pleasure in a sunny October day, half the joy in this tightrope baseball is knowing that it will soon be gone. and yet, enjoying the sun’s warmth one day more makes that one day, that little warmth much sweeter
Balls
1st one is headed to the facebooks.
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I've already sent them around to friends
my rec is taking a while to register there though
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
let’s hope he doesn’t need the extra out next time!
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 8, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i still can't believe it
i can’t believe they came back from 10 1/2 down
i can’t believe they beat Oswalt, Lee AND Roy F’ing Halladay
i can’t believe i’m smiling. yep, your crazy ass old bitter miserable curmudgeon GDM is actually happy!
i can’t believe it either
Balls
by gdm426 on Oct 8, 2011 7:48 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
this post is even better when you read your sig as part of the post!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
The absurdity of the Cardinals season
is the beauty of it. This makes no sense whatsoever. In the end, you just have throw up your hands and go with it.
The Cards just HAVE to win the series this year
I was -11 in ‘64 so I can’t partake in that whole thing.
One can’t help the way they feel, of course, but I can’t understand the robot, and the other gentleman on the post-game posts saying they weren’t feeling too attached to this team. The spirit these guys are playing with, and the wins of course, has me feeling like I was at ten years in 1985, before I sat and watched in horror in that game 7.
Seriously, the last couple of months and this past series has my loving this team. It’s not likely I’ll see the Cards go through a similar process again. For them to not win the series this year… well, instead of my own ’64, it will be reduced to, “yeah, that was wild. Remember that game Carp threw against Halladay?”
It’s one of the reasons I still can’t get full on nostalgic for Albert’s Game 5 homer against Lidge in 2005, as awesome as that was.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 7:48 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I too have wondered why there is such a disparity in the feelings towards this team
between many VEBers (Lboros, robot, etc) and the players themselves (e.g. Carp, Berk, etc). Some players seem to love the chemistry/clubhouse etc. From Carp’s post game comments, it appears that the feeling is more than just the obligatory “this is a great bunch of guys comment.”
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
a lot of people had an emotional attachment to Boog and Rasmus
and really didn’t like the guys who took their place. (Theriot and Patterson) Or the guys who sent them packing (Mo and Tony)
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Boog and Rasmus were handily replaced in terms of chemistry by Furcal and Punto
I dig it. I think the Memphis wave just came too late for those two flown birds.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The feelings of players who spend vast amounts of time with one another
and who were part of the team that made the improbable run probably should not ever be compared to the feelings of outside observers. To quote my grandpa, it’s like comparing apples to firetrucks.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
the happiest thing is the Yadi-hug.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you're just biased
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
well, not just that hug up there
but the random hugs in the background
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I know, just yankin yer chain.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
it's really a hug-and-smile combo
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
other hug of note was Big Mac's
he hugged two coaches at once and looked like he had arm-breadth for more. still a big dude.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That was impressive.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
you know, besides not mentioning the pride of Lafayette High
I’ve seen no features on McGwire. which is good. but it’s a little strange that they aren’t milking that cow.
/wants a glass of milk, not because i’m talkin to you
/go away, moocow.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
if you get it from Moo, I doubt it's milk
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, that's why it's fortunate
I guess they just like their storylines too much to even dig for the salacious one.
#developing
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The evil that men do is oft interred with their bones,
So let it be with McGwire.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 8, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that is a beautiful thing to come online to
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
well that could be interpreted way wrong
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
wouldn't be the first time I had that happen
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Is there footage of The Shredder shredding Carp's jersey?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I was wondering the same thing.
I never saw it happen on any of the feeds last night, just that he had been shredded.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
maybe there was this white light and sonic blast.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Maybe he was doing one of those fist punch to the gut things
that they don’t seem to be doing to much of this year, thankfully.
"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR
being Dirty?
maybe he started the shredding.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 8, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Apu looks about to start making out with him.
Can’t find the pic now, but it’s that from a different angle and Apu has his hand on Carp’s face as Carp is screaming, was my twavatar, now it will be the CDGAF Photoshop above.
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i love this, it's like they just don't know what to do, so they just hug it out
and bask in the bad ass glory that is Chris Fucking Carpenter
Balls
did you see the replay angle
from the third base side that zeroed in on Carp on the last play? He was taking these hesitating little steps waiting to delve into jubilation since Punto was practically torturing him by taking his time to get the ball to first since Howard crumpled (I do feel bad about that).
As bad a man as he is, it almost looked like a Little League World Series clip for a couple of seconds there.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
bad
I’m trying to find the latest, all I’m getting is MRI for the Achilles
expert VEB medical opinion is in the previous entries somewhere
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wait, are we the only fanbase even vaguely concerned for Ryan Howard's welfare?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Well, you know,
he IS from St. Louis.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
no shit?
when did this happen?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
'79
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
I only remember 'cause he was in my class at SMS(U)/MSU/whatever they want to call themselves these days
he went to school in Missouri, you know?
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
i thought he was Albert's age, dude's only two years younger than me
i’m such a epic fail at life
Balls
Most likely.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
that is really unfortunate.
he will probably spend the offseason working his ass off to recover from a brutal injury, while concurrently being harpooned by philly media and fans.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
so unfortunate. He seems like a really great person.
My mid-season predictions contest RESULTS
See if you won!
I've actually met him
in the mall in Springfield the spring after they won the world series. He declined a photo with Mrs. Scoot, but chatted with me for a few moments while the Foot Locker guy went and got his little kid a pair of shoes to try on.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
especially bc his $25mil a year contract kicks in this coming season
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
more like Soriano
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Best pitching wins?
I was thinking about that “maxim” yesterday, and more so today. The Phillies have better pitching than the Cards, in all sorts of very real ways. I wouldn’t even try to argue that. But it occurs to me that looking at it flatly evades the inherent relativity of which team has the “best pitching.”
Yesterday I was thinking that although Halladay is probably better than Carpenter by comparing careers and this year as well, didn’t Halladay have the tougher job since the Cards have a better offense than the Phils? Doesn’t a pitching staffs potential effectiveness rely on the level of competition they face. When judging which team in a playoff series has the better pitching, it would be cool if there were some sort of metric available to account for the two different offenses and arrive at a less Euclidean summation of which team has better pitching.
I guess I’m interested in hearing opinions on the question of whether or not we can judge who has the better pitching w/o factoring in who any given pitcher has to face in order to gain a win, or a low WHIP, or whatever. This is pretty clearly more true in a playoff series, at least in my mind.
No matter what, I would say that Bobby Cox would take exception to “best pitching wins.”
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
when one team's offense is significantly worse than the other's
all bets are off with the pitching maxim
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
always wondered the same about players and teams
how much of apu, braun, voto, and fielder’s admirable stats reflect playing in the nl central, as opposed to the al east?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I know
We have much better pitching in the NL central than they do in the AL east.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Bizzaro ESPN'd?
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
is there a pitching staff in the AL East that you would rather have than
The Cardinals staff? Than the Brewers staff? Than the Reds staff?
The whole “American League has better pitching” is a load any more.
Halladay
Lee
Hamles,
Kershaw
Lincecum
Cain
Wainwright
Carpenter
Garcia
Grenke
Kenndey
Hudson
…. I could go on.
AL has CC, King Felix, and Price. Who are really great pitchers. But AL pitching talent is a bit over blown.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Verlander?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I'd think about taking TB's rotation over any in the NL Central.
Certainly over all the teams’ rotations other than the Brewers.
i mean
I don’t really intend to break it down staff by staff, pitcher by pitcher. Someone can. It’s just like there are a few automatics in baseball. 1.) The AL East as the best pitching. 2.) The NL Central is the worst Division in baseball. 3.) The American league is better than the National League.
And they just at true. But no one questions it when a bobble head says it on FESPN or MLBN.
Grit != flat out sucking.
over the last 5+ yrs i'd say al east pitching has been better on average than nl central
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
OH, GLORIOUS MORNING!
Had to come in to work this morning, but IT"S ALL GOOD. My job’s at a family-owned business where pretty much everyone’s from Philly. I’m having a hard time containing my glee, especially with the Philly sports talk radio currently playing in the office.
Sure sounds like they want to run Ryan Howard out of town on a rail. A pearl of wisdom overheard: “Howard didn’t even run it out!”
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 8, 2011 8:44 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ahhhh Philadelphia
the city of brotherly go fuck yourself you fucking fuck… “you lookin’ at me?!”
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
What I imagine every Philly fan as

Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 8, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
That's awful
The man’s going to spend half a year having trouble walking.
Also I have to work in half an hour myself but we get to work in special u-verse Cardinals t-shirts. Worlds best casual day
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 8, 2011 8:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Philly is a tough tough sports town. The town got on Eric Lindros for throwing up because
of multiple concussions and ran him out of town. If I were a ball player, Philly would rank pretty low on my list of places.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Look for some of the reactions on Twitter...
they’re all class.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
They're really gonna dig that 5 year, $125 million contract that starts next year.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
he might miss spring training
but I doubt he’ll miss too much of the regular season.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I'm fairly ignorant as to the timetable for returning from an achilles tendon tear
but this is what Will Carroll tweeted earlier:
Best comparable injury for Howard is Olmedo Saenz – tore Achilles in 02 ALDS, didn’t make it back to majors in ’03 (played 14 minor games)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
so...
Do the phillies enter the market for one of the first basemen? Any chance they go in at an extremely high number for one year?
Grit != flat out sucking.
I think there's a chance
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I don't.
The Phillies will be focused on Rollins.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
But their window is closing fast
i think they’ll go all in the next couple of years.
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they already went "all-in" this year
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
yeah, and they need to win a world series sometime in the next fews to justify that
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oh....that sux
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
ah that sucks.
Get well sooner than the precedents, Ryan Howard.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 8, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that's a little too conservative
I think it’ll be right around nine months, so around ASB.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
that's probably bad news for PHI
they’d be better off taking the insurance settlement at this point.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Last time the Brewers won a playoff series the Cardinals turned around and beat them in 7
Here to history repeating itself. Also my friends and my playoff mustaches are working to perfection, with the help of a rally squirrel and Torty of course
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 8, 2011 8:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
espn
Crasnick
In 6
Caple
In 6
Bowden
In 7
Schoenfield
In 7
Kahrl
In 7
Karabell
In 5
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
oops, that didn't work well
anyway, crasnick was the only one picking el birdos
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
worked last series, and it did in 06 too.
cards as underdogs shock everybody. maybe it’s actually a good thing.
DO IT FOR TORTY!
twitter
I have saved this as my "Facebook website" since it went up on Oct. 2, 2006:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2610409
Makes me happy every time I happen to stumble across it.
Furcal interviewed by Sager...and something good came of it!
Link here is the the whole 1:28 video, but starting from 0:59 seconds was the best part.
On the diving play he made on Ruiz: “I had to make the throw of my life.”
Right at the end of the video: “It’s gonna be a happy flight.”
Also, Furc says “I wanna ‘wing’”, which is kind of cool mang.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
On second listen
I think he also said something like, “I gotta put a song in my arm.” That’s a neat phrase too, if I heard it right.
Common phrase in Spanish, perhaps?
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
sadism
I don’t feel good about Howard, but I’m enjoying watching the Philly interviews.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
that play was downright astonishing
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Charlie Manuel reminds me
more than a little bit of Whitey.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
This
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Charlie Manuel.
I also like Chase Utley, Jimmy Rollins (his Dick’s commercial was great), Victorino, Polanco, Pence, Halladay, Oswalt and Cliff Lee. And I don’t dislike really any of the other folks on their team.
I guess I really can’t dislike the Phillies…but I really like that we beat them.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 8, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
this
the worst part about philly is the phans
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
USA Today
The quiet was finally broken by the sound of a fan yelling, "Let’s Go Eagles,’’ and others began shuffling towards the exits.
I’m sorry, i can’t find the pie graph
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that is one forlorn article.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
forlorn is an excellent word.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I try to use excellent words occasionally.
Helps me not forget them.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked this bit, even if the sentence is clunky
It was the first time since the 1921 World Series that the game’s lone run in a clinching game was scored in the first inning.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
ooh, should stick that with the firsts thread
cool
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Oswalt for me, was kind of like Berkman.
He was a guy I really thought highly of when he was in Houston and who I really wanted to win a Cy before his career was over. Chase Utley is awesome in so many ways, but most of all he is incredibly awesome in comparison to the second basemen of the Cardinals for the last decade (argh). I once heard that Chase Utley was George W. Bush’s favorite baseball player. Chase Utley also will probably never win an MVP even though he deserves at least one and is indisputably the best second baseman of the last ten years.
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
Utley is sooooo underrated. Not that Ryan Howard is the size of C.C. Sabathia,
but shouldn’t Utley be doing $5 commercials instead?
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Utley & Howard's cameo on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia was great.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I dislike Utley
simply because of his hair. I mean seriously, does he lube it with motor oil or something??? But yes, he is a great second baseman
all that lube doesn't stop the #facetag
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I find it pretty funny
that Utley gels his hair down with L.A. Looks hair gel for every game. Making it even better is the fact that he looks like a villain from an episode of Miami Vice.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Utley's hair is another thing i love about him.
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
he's from the 20's or 30's
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, agreed about oswalt
I used to copy his windup in little league.
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they were great
I’d like to do away with the Brewers in four to highlight that the Phillies were the team to beat. I hadn’t spent that much time watching Utley before. He’s great. He NEVER gets thrown out on the bases and we got him twice. Really like the Phillies team — we are just better this year.
Just win
I also don't like their GM.
Not personally, just that I’m happy that he failed after making some dumbass moves that he had no business being rewarded for.
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I love the Ruben Amaro Jr Smug Level thing they have @ The Good Phight
that thing cracks me up….
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Everyone making small market comments do know the Rangers play in Dallas, right?
I mean actually Arlington but that’s Dallas’s baseball team
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 8, 2011 9:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
actually it's considered the Dallas-Ft,Worth Metroplex
Which means it’s one gigantic-assed area.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
it seems to me - though I stand ready to be corrected -
That some of the southwest teams (houston, arizona, texas) are in huge media markets but lack the huge numbers of passionate baseball fans that make a comparable city more attractive (say, philly). I may be totally wrong, but I suspect that’s it.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
THE ZOMBIE CARDINALS ARE STILL UNDEAD! LONG LIVE MEMPHIS AND ALL THE LITTLE ANIMALS!
The Puma looks on benevolently, calm but for this craving for cooked sausages.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Adron Chambers must think he won the lottery
He’s earned his spot on the postseason roster, but for me, this picture says it all:

Source: STLtoday (link)
“Is it like this every year, fellas!!”
PS – Image 5 in that set is great:
Natasha: “Ees Dotel and Squirrel?”
Boris: “Ees always Dotel and Squirrel.”
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
by lightbulb on Oct 8, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
AND NOW HERE'S SOMETHING WE HOPE YOU REALLY LIKE!
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 8, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
the highlights of the squirrel saga in fanshots
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Champagne for the NLDS? Really?
They don’t even make a banner for the NLDS. I can see celebrating making the playoffs, winning the division, winning the pennant and world series… but the NLDS is just a minor intermediate step. Come on guys…
a minor intermediate step
that required taking 3 games from Lee, Oswalt, and Halladay? C’mon, dude.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I've drunk champagne for far far more random and meagingless situations
but the point is well taken. That’s one of the reasons I really want to the Cards to win the series. After all this over the last couple months it would be nice to have something other just a “2011 Wild Card” banner. I suppose the NL Champs is a large step up from the wild card, but getting to the series and losing… pass
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Celebration inflation is a plague upon the land...
you should see these birthday parties my kid gets invited to… Give me football, where the guys win the wild card game, or the divisional game and they don’t even smile. They’re just like, yup, one more step on the path…
But MLB is still the sport with the lowest percentage of teams making the postseason.
Winning is still a big deal… mostly.
When the next round of playoff expansion goes through, then I think we can start having a real conversation about guys celebrating meaningless games. Can you imagine the two wildcards meeting in the same early postseason series: who’s the better also-ran of the regular season?
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
Give me football where players celebrate after every play, every tackle made:
pose for the camera, do a dance, bring their own sharpie to the game, etc. As far as I am concerned, if you play your butt off for 162 games, and then win a division series, you get to spray as much champagne and budwiper as you want.
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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
this
One of the many reasons I don’t watch handegg is because of the celebrations for some of the most trivial crap.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 8, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It's probably because I'm a vintage fan, going back to an 8 team NL,
but for me the National League pennant is a bigger prize than a WS win.
"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR
Really?
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mutant league is silly
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not the Junior Circuit for nothing.
"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR
by vico on Oct 8, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, the Series was a bit of an afterthought, icing on the cake.
Fun, and great to win, but the real pleasure came from besting the Dodgers, Giants and Braves. I still consider the Dodgers the Cards’ real rivals because of those pennant races. And the remarkable split in their records against each other.
"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR
I loved Posnanski's recent column about this
looking at how the best team in the regular season tends to get bounced before the WS in the current format.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
What is wrong with you?
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Yeah, I really don't like that they do this
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Did you see the orgy the Brewers had?
It was like they’d just won the World Series on a Perfect Game and walk-off grandslam while coked up.
by mattisnotfrench on Oct 9, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
In background
between Dotel’s head and the squirrel (did I just type that?)… it is out of focus and he’d be a bit heavier than I would guess, but that looks like Ozzie. Can anyone confirm who that is?
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Boggs cracks me up
like he’s discovered this baseball gig comes with keggers
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 8, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
there's a pic of Carp in there, post-Shredder
it looks like Holliday’s trying to cover him up with his own arms.
that tat commemorating his kids just gets bigger and bigger.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Heh
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
who is that without a Cardinal jacket
in slide 12 looking like he’s trying to avoid stepping in a pile of dog crap on his way out of the dugout? Berkman?
Just win
i think so
Berk looked like he needed a nap
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
although I think he was trying to be respectful in the visiting ballpark
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i am sure the ryan howard situation had something to do with it.
hard to celebrate when there’s an opposing player laid out. it was a little awkward
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This is turning out to be a battle of Disney proportions
the Cardinals and all their animal friends from the 100 acre wood vs. Morgans Monsters
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 8, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
i prefer more of a horror bent, as mentioned
Or maybe this kind of Disney:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T5_0AGdFic
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Sounds like the plot of Space Jam
I doubt the Cards would want to bring in Michael Jordan to play for them though.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 8, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Happy Flight
with a cameo by Shaq
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh, sbn, by the time I type and post the comment...
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I was thinking about this last night
they set traps (humane) in Busch Thursday. If they catch it, they need to set up a cage somewhere and keep it there, show it on the big screen when we need to rally, like the Anaheim rally monkey years back.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 8, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The Angels caught the rally monkey running loose in the stadium?
That sounds like a movie set up.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
I woke up this morning in a state of disbelief.
I had to flip on my computer just to make sure last night wasn’t a drunken imagination of mine…holy fuck that was awesome.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
Luckily
I held off on the Goldschlager shots and blacking out until after the game was over, so I remember the whole thing. The same can’t be said for the two or three hours afterward. I’m still trying to figure out why I woke up with a half eaten taco laying on my chest.
the tortoise descended from the sky, and the squirrel leaped upon your chest, taking a sacrificial bite from the taco, before the tortoise once again took flight.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's hilarious
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for that picture, Tom S.
It’s amazing on its own, but it basically says all that needs to be said about this series.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
it's kind of weird, but
I never got that feeling going into the series. I was saying to a friend of mine at work (Red Sox fan), before game 1 that the Phillies may advance to the NLCS, but they didn’t scare me, for some reason. My feeling was that Halladay was going to be tough, but I always felt the birds could beat their other three aces, if not every time.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 8, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I felt we matched up well against them.
I think were probably the only NL team that could have pulled off whatever the fuck just happened over the last week.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
It was probably more improbable for the D-backs to beat the Brewers
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
kid looks like he got Shredded
/Punto
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The Cardinals have so far done the impossible
and still managed to catch the trash talking, arrogant Brewers who thought the Cards were done a long time ago.
I take exception to labeling the Phils' offense as "stacked"
Maybe on paper, but their lack of consistent offense was that team’s Achilles heel. The fact that they couldn’t blow the doors off the Cards when they had the chances (save in game one), allowed the Cards to scratch and claw their way back. If the Cards didn’t finish them off, the Brewers certainly would have.
I don’t think the Brewers will be that accomodating, they are a more formidable opponent. Their starters have the ability to completely shut the Cards down in a given start, and they have the offense to compete in a slugfest.
by olddomination on Oct 8, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
While the Phillies were deservedly the favorites, it wasn’t exactly an epic mis-match. The Cardinals has the lefties to counter the Phillie offense and the Cardinals offense was better through the regular season.
A game into the playoffs I relized the Brewers should be the favorite over-all in the NL. The top of their rotation can compete with anyone and the might have the best offense in the majors. Again the Brewers should be the favorites, but it won’t be earth-shattering if the Cardinals win.
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The Brewers do not have the best offense in the majors. They do not have the best offense in the league. They do not have the best offense in the division.
My mid-season predictions contest RESULTS
See if you won!
(but yeah, their rotation is very good, though it's less scary with Marcum pitching horribly of late)
My mid-season predictions contest RESULTS
See if you won!
That would be us, I believe.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope, Astros
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Seriously, look it up
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I can't stop laughing at this.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He's like the little engine that could
Great young player.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
my dream is kolten wong turns into jose altuve
oh how sweet would that be
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Our own tiny second baseman?
squeeeeeeeee!
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 8, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Re-read what I wrote. Re-read what I wrote. Re-read what I wrote
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
Was there supposed to be a 'Cardinals' in the
and the might have the best offense in the majors
part? Because one could get confused by that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
They pretty clearly do NOT have the best offense in the league.
No might about it.
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They do not even "might" have the best offense in the majors/league/division.
They’re a very good team, and we’ll have a hard time beating them, but that one part of your analysis was incorrect.
My mid-season predictions contest RESULTS
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The Cards outscored the Brewers by 40 runs this year...
they got on base a bunch more, and they played in a pitcher’s park…
The Brewers bench is amazingly bad, not to mention Yuni and Mcgheehee.
then why are you picking in them in 6?
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our starters for this series were worth more fWAR than theirs.
11.1 for brew crew, 11.8 for us. and that only counts jackson’s WAR since becoming a cardinal.
their top 4 WAR in the bullpen (axford, krod, loe, and estrada) total 4.7. ours totals 3.8, but that’s with only 1/2 season of dotel and scrabble, who put up .9 and .4 respectively in that 1/2 season.
i actually don’t think their pitching is meaningfully better than ours.
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What are these crazy stats you're throwing out here
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hmm can't tell if serious, but maybe its confusing.
in terms of fWAR in 2011, the brewers’ four starters, greinke, gallardo, marcum, and wolf totaled 11.1 WAR. our four, carp, garcia, jackson, and lohse, put up 11.8 WAR, and that includes only jackson’s WAR with the cardinals.
their best four relievers put up 4.7 WAR in 2011. Our best 4 put up 3.8, but again, that includes dotel’s and scrabble’s WAR only for 1/2 of the season.
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I was not serious
But that second post was a bit better worded. I think this is as close of a 50/50 series as you’re going to see
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Rui drunk a little too much last night
I think he may have lost the last 3 years of his life, and unfortunately forgot sabermetrics.
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I think they are slightly more talented...
then add in home field and you have to give them the edge. If Marcum and Wolf continue to suck, that could change things.
wow, good stuff
I would never have guessed that.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Disagree
The Phillies offense is bad, but certainly good enough to carry their pitching.
They were the best team in baseball for a reason.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
To be honest, I wasn't into the LDS.
They backed into it. Sure, they had a great September, but it was the Phillies they had to face. Tough team. Maybe the Cardinals would just roll over, just being happy to have made the postseason? Maybe La Russa would over-manage the team into the ground? Postseason baseball is always great, but I had to be prepared…
But last night’s game, and the series as a whole, changed all that. They were dominant. They weren’t just dominant, they were kicking ass and taking names on defense. True, the bats weren’t there, but they were getting hits and not just from the heart of the lineup. They showed what they could do against Halladay and the Phils and gave me a good jolt of excitement, “They can do this!”
Thank you, Cardinals: I believe!
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
by icardinal on Oct 8, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i don't get why people say we backed into it
and that this season reminds them of 2006 etc etc. This is so incomparable, it’s ridiculous. we are freakin’ streakin’. if september didn’t fire up your hopes, then i don’t know what will. sure i’m ready for them to lose it at any second, but that’s ok. playing with house money, and whatnot. years from now, we’ll look back at this september and wonder why our current tea doesn’t look like that: a fun team on a tear, torty & glovington & bsquirrel, a solid bullpen, dominant carp, albert’s still around, rafael furcal playing well after getting him for a song, etc etc. just go with it people – these past few weeks have been a hell of a ride, and i’m afraid some of you have been missing out.
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
hey dude, is your running list updated?
/ironic
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there was quality Yadi goings-on last night
(oh, pre-emptive before anyone gets on me about “updating”)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
as far as pickoffs go
i’ve gotten all the videos i could find. it’s strange that even nowadays they decide something so rare and skill-dependent isn’t top play worthy. he’s got 3 this year and only 2 are available online.
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
those bastards
keep fighting the good fight. /thumbs-up
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
A difference in the timing of the streak.
The Cardinals were playing baseball of a quality on par with ’06 from June through July. Then they gradually improved through August and are riding a streak. The ’06 Cardinals had their streak begin in the NLDS vs. San Diego and they rode it to the title. Hopefully the ’11 streak ends as the ’06 streak did, with a victory.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed
the 06 comparisons a week ago drove me nuts tho. we didn’t start playing well until we got to the playoffs in 06, after backing into them. this year we earned the crap out of our postseason berth.
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
Al still thinks we got in with the wild card that year.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Al should be kicked in the nuts
repeatedly and on a daily basis.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
biggest difference betwee 06 and 11 so far
under no circumstances was The Chop going to be performed @ Busch Stadium this year
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that whole Atlanta thing is spooky
Smoltz announcing, this time around.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
retired a cardinal!
if dang eckersley hadnt gone to boston in ’98, we couldve had 3 guys who retired a cardinal on this tbs cast
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
he was pushing Halladay, oddly enough.
i wondered if he was bitter it wasn’t him down there.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He said during the cast that he wishes he were on the mound.
"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR
hell
the first time the 2012 team has a losing streak, they’ll be accused of being tight and no longer being the loose, fun team that was around in 2011
I think it's because of those two games
Against the Mets and then the Cubs. Coupled with the fact that the Cards needed the Braves to bomb to make the playoffs.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
those defensive plays (like 4 of them?)
were very very nice to see. the Cards with elite defense is much more fun to watch than the Cards with questionable at best defense.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That's an understatement. Would you like awesome defense or butchering?
I’ll take awesome please.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
I wonder if Cholly will take some heat now for not
“taking it easy” during the final week and “helping” the Cards make the playoffs instead of the Braves. I don’t think he should take any, but the worst case scenario came true.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions
maybe in Philly
he had too many gimpy pieces in his lineup
and, apparently, none with the healing power of Matt Holliday. and his coors.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So WMT... I am pretty convinced that Theriot would have also made Furcal's play in the 8th... Thoughts?
I kid! I kid!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I'm just glad that we finally had our best team on the field this year, even if it was only for a few innings
Furcal at SS, Punto at 2B, Jay in CF, Freese at 3B, Holliday in LF, Berkman in RF, Yadi at C, and Pujols at 1B. Has this lineup been on the field at the same time before last night? Not sure it has been with all the injuries and trades. Hopefully we see it often in the NLCS.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It's sounding like Schumaker will not even be on the NLCS roster due to his oblique injury.
This is a huge development in whether the best nine are on the diamond at a given time.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
There will be much less sliding into first...
I do know that.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
When you're sliding into first, And you feel something burst ....
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Don't forget about Punto pulling that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It will reduced by half...
50% = much less to me.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
For sure. It took an act of nature (not TLR) for us to put our best 8 on the field
But it still happened, so i get some satisfaction.
Of course no one wants to see someone get hurt, but like McClellan’s dead arm, Skip’s injury may "help"us play our best players.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
not disagreeing w/u but Skip drove in the winning and only run
I cringed when I saw the lineup w/him at CF.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
credit where due
skip took good at bats all series. Took his opportunities and helped the team.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
had the best average over the series
which is the only reason I can think of for TLR to be starting him at center. Wanted to keep the “hot bat” in while keeping the GB specialists in the infield.
still seems silly, but, there was a reason.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
yeah
doesn’t mean I agree with the decision to start him yesterday, but I try not to let that get in the way of admiring a player for turning in a heck of a series. That at bat against Halladay yesterday was really excellent.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Yeah, sure. Skip's going to get on base in about a third of his at bats.
So he’s going to get hits. But it doesn’t make him a better hitter or fielder than Jon Jay.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
punto was so key last night. several plays he made that neither skip nor theriot would have
especially the utley tag.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fourstick and I were talking about that very thing during the game.
Neither of the stonehanded tandem TLR prefers at second makes the tag on that throw. The other play off the deflection when Punto was charging and made the throw was excellent, too.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i am wondering if carp asked for punto.
i have a feeling he did.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I shall have the Shredder. I got all these great tats, y'know.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
why has the shredder meme not crossed streams
With the turtle meme so far? Seems like a natural progression.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it was just waiting on you to point it out
someone with photoshop/creative skills, make it happen!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
needs to be a masked wrestler
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
you know, the phillies claimed their 8-game losing streak was just because they were taking it easy
but, outside of game 1, they had a lot of trouble scoring runs in this series. i don’t know that they were taking it all that easy down the stretch.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
11 runs in game 1, 10 runs in games 2-5
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
I was saying that they were Not taking it easy against the braves, which helped the cards make the playoffs
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
right. i wasn't trying to disagree. just making a related observation.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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phillies team wOBA
.316
Cards #4 in the majors. I don’t know if this is why they won or not, but it is part of it. you just aren’t going to expect huge numbers from that offense.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Carpenter is a baseball giant
that is all
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Oct 8, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
that game cemented his place in baseball history
if it wasn’t already
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still chuckling over Carp's reaction to
Howard hitting that flyball on a 3-0 count. It was a “I can’t believe he just did that.” reaction. Furc’s catch, spin and throw like he was a dancing matador. Jay’s rundown in the 9th(I literally pounded my fist into my hand over that). And Punto, HFS, PUNTO! Punto saved our asses tonite, made some ridiculous plays. Yadi’s gundown and Carp’s laugh at the end. These are some visions I’ll not lose for a long time to come. Thank you for the ride, Cardinals! I look for more to come.
The only thing that might have made it better is if a couple of the guys had gone over to help Howard. I’m not saying that they should have, it just would’ve been a very sportsmanship-ly thing to do.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Furcal's kick on his follow through was pretty sassy!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I was actually a bit surprised
no one went to see about Howard. Had this been a regular season game, or even a non-clinching playoff win, Albert would have been over there in short order to check on him (along with other, most likely).
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 8, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Albert knew. had his back to it. Punto probably saw it right off, that's why he hesitated with the throw.
and the trainers descended fast.
after clinching, I don’t think you’d want to approach those guys right off.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Pu2Pu
/always wanted to type that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that sounds like a network protocol or a IP layer
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
i wondered too why punto was taking forever
but he could obviously see what albert couldn’t
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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and I was wondering
“Where’s Howard? Did he just give up in frustration?” felt bad when I saw what happened.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 8, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I yelled
until Stockton mentioned Howard was down.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
I initially assumed he was going to take it to the bag himself
He would have had time even if Howard had been OK, although it would have been a bit odd from that distance.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I know
I wouldn’t expect it, really, in the middle of a series clinching celebration. Had this not been the clincher, I imagine concern would have been expressed.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 8, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
tongue-in-cheek
they also had to hit Carpenter’s reset button inside his shirt and contain him before he exploded
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
soooooooooooo good to see them playing ridiculous defense
even with that Pujols misplay
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Bernie sums it up .
The Phillies were at Carp’s mercy.
And he had none.
by D4 on Oct 8, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
So, rotation set up?
Garcia
Lohse
Carp
E-jax
Garcia
Lohse
Carp
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 11:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
read in stltoday
Garcia
E-Jax
Carp
Lohse
Garcia
E-jax
Carp
too lazy to find the link.
Winner of the prestigious 2011 MVL as presented by Alxfritz.
"You didn't win LOY, but you did win MVL, which is a prestigious award I just made up. And that’s something RiverRat can never take from you." - Alxfritz
The Yahoo sports
page has the same rotation you say. Gonna be a long time between starts for Lohse.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Is the game order
2-2-1-1-1 or 2-3-2?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2-3-2
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Ah good
So lohse and Garcia get a home game
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2-2-1-1-1 is the NHL
if memory serves….
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I read this post
and it was a very good read. Is this an outline for a novel you’re planning to write? If so you could have a best seller if you put your heart into it.
how did you even sign up? i never saw that on the official site. i went there this morning looking for that
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They sent me an email to enter into a lottery for NLCS and World Series tickets.
I missed out on both.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
damnit
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the 28th out
probably already covered in the game thread (too lazy to check), Gload vertured onto the field running to first so should have been called out anyway. (does that make 29 outs?)
Don’t get to watch the Cards too often (usually ‘watch’ via gamecast) so was stunned at how much Motte looks like Bruce Sutter circa early eighties.
Vances Law “You can’t win a pennant without a slick fielding shortstop”
you can never get called out of the basepath on a play like that.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 8, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
actually you can
Rule 6.05k) In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three-foot line, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpires judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base, in which case the ball is dead; except that he may run outside (to the right of) the threefoot line or inside (to the left of) the foul line to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball;
Rule 6.05(k) Comment: The lines marking the three-foot lane are a part of that lane and a batter- runner is required to have both feet within the three-foot lane or on the lines marking the lane. The batter-runner is permitted to exit the three-foot lane by means of a step, stride, reach or slide in the immediate vicinity of first base for the sole purpose of touching first base.
A personal observation.
During the first week of spring training, I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. I’ve been a Cardinal-fan-at-a-distance for 55 years (New Jersey for 40, Nashville for 15), and given the prognosis I was about as long a shot as the Cardinals were to see the post season in what was shaping up as my last go-round.
Things didn’t work out as predicted which was a good thing. Surgery in May was not successful in removing the tumor, and it was discovered to have spread, but a combination of an experimental drug, chemo, a positive attitude and prayers from friends and strangers around the world seem to have brought the cancer to a standstill. Since May, there has been no spread and no growth in the tumors, which has my oncologist very happy because she can continue to bill me as long as I am alive. I feel good, eat like a horse, and have retained my hair and good looks.
I took an involuntary hiatus from mlb.com in early September to travel back to Jersey to meet my first grandson and see my older daughter married on the beach (two weeks post-Irene, so they had to move the ceremony from the original site, which had been turned into matchsticks.) I was reduced to following the Cards’ resurgence via crawls on YES, but they seemed to be getting closer every day. When I got home, I prepared myself for the eventual heartbreak that never came.
I’m still here, and so are the Cards. Life is good.
Thanks for letting me share this. I’ve been on VEB for a number of years but haven’t posted in a couple (I think my last contribution was a song parody about Jason Isringhausen set to “Folsom Prison Blues”). My avatar is still a “Viva El Birdos” button my wife found for me at a garage sale back when I was posting here. I figure if anyone would understand what this season has meant, it would be you guys.
P.S. We own the same squirrel that Dotel is waving around in that photo. It’s a dog toy with a squeaker in the tail. I bought it several years ago to prop up in our kitchen window because we have a family of squirrels that come up and pat on the screen when we don’t refill the bird feeders fast enough for them. It is disconcerting, to say the least, when you are waiting for the coffee to perk and see three furry mendicants begging you to break out the sunflower seeds. The squirrel was moved to the side of the TV for the game last night, and he’s gonna stay there for a while.
P.P.S. My brother, the Yankee fan with time on his hands, called me immediately after Furcal’s play. All he could say was "When did they put Ozzie back on the roster?"
The cat is fine, thank you.
by Intheway on Oct 8, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 35 recs
Welcome back.
And best of luck on your road to recovery.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
A rec to you.
Glad that you are having good results with the cancer. Nice job on keeping the squirrels in good health.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Life is good!
Best of luck to you!
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 8, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
May God continue
to bless you. I have lost several family members and friends to pancreatic cancer and I know it is not an easy one to beat. Hope and pray that you have.
I had cancer when I was 16
Had radiation and chemo for 12 months, now I have been in remission for 8 years. Hang in there man, I know how hard it can be but stuff gets better. And your lucky to still have your hair! Mine never grew back! Anything you can find to take your mind of stuff does wonders, I hope you continue to improve and the Cards keep winning.
by mick311 on Oct 8, 2011 1:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ouch. Good luck, and I'm cheering for you.
Unfortunately, I’ve had some experience with watching my mother suffer from pancreatic cancer, and am all too aware of the prognosis, and the usual outcome. Its not a fair thing to have, so keep on.
As a coincidence, it was five years ago this fall when her prognosis wasn’t good to make it through the fall, which unfortunately held true. It was also five years ago that there was another weird Cardinals team out there, backing into the playoffs, and somehow winning the whole damn thing. And I have to say, watching some of those games were the greatest things ever for me, from yelling at Endy Chavez, Yadi becoming my favorite Cardinal, the beginning of the epic night that came from the Anthony Reyes game, fully believing that Carlos Beltran would never recover from that curveball, and then finally trying to explain to strangers here in DC that Adam Wainwright isn’t actually our closer – just our best young pitcher who’ll be in the rotation next year, were absolutely necessary. Being able to take a couple hours off where my biggest worry was how Jeff Weaver was going to make it past five innings was exactly what I needed at that time. This is why I hate it when people think sports are dumb. Watching games with about four other like-minded midwesterners here was just what was needed when everything else isn’t good. I hope this postseason is just as special and great for someone else in VEBland as that 2006 one was for me.
Just again, keep on, and thank you for sharing.
by Expatcardfan on Oct 8, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
here's a "mi shebeirach" to u (prayer for good health)
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
I hope to see you here celebrating with us in about two weeks.
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by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is, without a shred of doubt, the best post I have ever seen on VEB.
Thank You for sharing.
yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man
Thank you for this post
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Best of wishes and prayers for you
My wife almost died from Pancreatitis and unfortunately my father did. The pancreas and illnesses associated with it are no joke much less the big "C’. Keep the faith and enjoy every day I wish the very best to you and yours.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 9, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I have seen the future...

And it’s GLORIOUS…
Also, go Blues. Go get the first of hopefully many, many wins tonight.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Oct 8, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
oh... oh no...!
it’s a lemur!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sorry, I can't find that lemur picture that went green recently
= Braun
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I woke up this morning still giddy...
I’m now at the office studying, and still giddy. I dont’ know the last time I’ve been this happy. Good times.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Yeah, I'm still pretty jazzed up too
I don’t want to wait – I wish they were starting the NLCS today. (I imagine the Cards might disagree though….)
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Last night was one of my favorite games of all time.
I love pitching duels, they are so tense. I love dominant pitching performances. I love Chris Carpenter. I loved last night so much, I was so nervous, so excited and so elated when Carp closed it out.
I had trouble sleeping, seriously. When I woke up, I only wanted to digest more information, narrative-pandering articles, everything possible about last night.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
early morning...lots of beer last night...
don’t picture what you read on VEB.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
well at least we weren't cocky sh*
a good horror flick needs a lot of terror.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
something about the postseason
that makes pitchers’ duels better. I was hanging on every single pitch last night.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
poking around Posnanski's twitter
besides the NL Central comment
this made me laugh
Of course I misspelled Steel in that previous Tweet. Hopefully, Real Steal, the Vince Coleman Story, will follow. 8:12 PM Oct 6th via Twitter for Mac
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think I'll go track down a Philly cheesesteak...
…and laugh maniacally as I devour it.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Oct 8, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Everyone's predicting the cheesesteak will beat you in three games
heh heh heh…
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ted Drewes > Geno's steak
but both delicious
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Not gonna say Carp has healing power...
But I’ve been sick the entire week and last night I actually think I forgot I was sick. I don’t think I coughed or sniffled the whole time during the game.
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 8, 2011 11:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Austin Texas VEB
Anyone in Austin —-can you suggest a sports bar where we can gather tomorrow?
Older than any three of you.
by Remember Kenny B on Oct 8, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
prophetjohn and clank are down around there somewhere.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Valatan too
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
102 wins ain't worth what it use to be.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
Just ask the A's...
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
A nice piece by Posnanski
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
is that the one with that one-liner ending
that needs warning-for?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I believe so.
The Posterisked one-liner ending, right?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Posterisked for the win.
those darn bears.
or we can laugh that they still can’t seem to capitalize.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he also has a poll for best baseball movie
field of dreams neck and neck with bull durham
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
No Major League II???
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
me no gusta Major League II
Major League is great. I think most of the actors actually looks somewhat believable as late-80’s baseball players. It also has my favorite sports movie quote.
“I only have one thing to say to you Vaughn. Strike this motherf***er out.”
I feel like they turned Major League II into too much of a family movie.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
There's that...
I just enjoy the whole “Maybe it’s the hybernator, or the out a stater. Whatever it’s see you later for Vaughn” bit…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Plus this gem...
My God! Good news fans, the Indians are showing signs of life for the first time in weeks. As a matter of fact they appear to be beating the crap out of each other. It looks like Willie Hayes is trying to hit Rick Vaughn, and why not, everyone else in the league does. Hayes swings and misses. I don’t know Monte, it looks like Vaughn is carrying his left a little low. This could hurt him in the later rounds.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
gold, pure gold
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The comedy writing was much better in the second.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Major League II is hilarious
Not quite the original, but hilarious.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Comparing those two movies is like apples and oranges.
Field of Dreams is about the game itself while Bull Durham is about Organized Baseball, a totally different dynamic. And then there’s The Natural, which, aside from its Hero Tempted theme, is about one season going from worst to first.
I voted for Field of Dreams.
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
me too
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I'm hoping the title of this post is a Smiths reference.
[Homer shows Bart "Wonderbat".]
Bart: Wow. How many home runs you gonna hit with that thing?
Homer: Let's see... We play thirty games. Ten at-bats a game. Mm...three thousand.
when in doubt, it's a smiths reference.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh, I was wondering what they were saying
Moments earlier Carpenter’s teammates, anticipating his arrival in the clubhouse, huddled together. When he entered, they mobbed him. “60 feet! 60 feet!” they chanted.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
May I just say
I am so very glad Dr. Wainwright is able to travel with the team.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So is the NL central still the worst division in baseball?
the game last night from Carp was unbelievable. What an amazing game.
The only thing that bothered me was, after that last out, how much coverage Howard and his injury got. I feel for the guy, but we just knocked off the best team in baseball on the road in game 5 behind a CG shutout from our ace! It just bothered me that they cut right from our on field celebration to Howard and then stayed on him while our team celebrated. then on SC they went right from the game highlights to Howard’s status and postgame interview. I cant say I was surprised bc it was fespn, but still, their season is over! Yea it sucks he hurt his ankle but is that really the top story with all the great baseball played yesterday?
Anyway, awesome game. Ill take the win, and am glad to see we are underdogs in this series, feels like 2006 again.
by mick311 on Oct 8, 2011 11:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
haven't you heard?
Ryan Howard for MVP!
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Sweet zombie jesus
THAT. WAS. AWESOME.
Moar wins please.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
not sure if mentioned, but I have to give props to TLR
Bullpen management was just phenomenal this series and he made a lot of right moves. Kudos.
Including not using the bullpen last night.
Although, I think Carp would have beat him down if he’d tried to.
yeah
only way to use the bullpen last night would have involved hitting Carp with a horse tranquilizer dart and dragging him off the field.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I think Bernie said a taser.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
that wouldn't have stopped him
just made him (more) angry
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I'm envisioning the movie Crank.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He's been right more often than wrong lately
which is all you can ask of a manager. They WILL make mistakes. Anybody would.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Oct 8, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
KNOW THINE....
SI Cover jinx …. go! Strange Brew
It wasn’t online for a while so I didn’t enter the fray on any of the Nyjer discussion.
If anyone needs a quick primer to this match-up, other than our mirror-image head-to-head records, that’s a pretty good link.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Probably nexdef'd
Al Davis died
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 12:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
you're the first
I knew about it though… distracted
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
again?
too soon?
In all seriousness… he had a huge impact on the NFL and how we know the game today. it’s too bad that he became a joke.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Bittersweet day for me....
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
by KlausChadman on Oct 8, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
go to the official site, they show yadi's 2006 home run.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 8, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
I got the final out from last night
accompanied by Shannon.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
must be random then.
still pretty cool.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 8, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's random
I’ve gotten Wainwright v Beltran, Wainwright v Inge, Yadi, Ozzie, and now last night.
A very cool campaign for MLB.com.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Now if only those jerkfaces would put this stuff up on youtube...
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
no shit!
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
They are leaving a ton of money on the table by not doing it.
I’ve never been able to easily navigate the mlb.com video page… youtube’s better.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
i kept refreshing...
yadi 2006, waino WS strike out, Beltran NLCS strike out (2x), Ozzie.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Viva El Birdos – An unofficial St. Louis Cardinals blog
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
So, uh
Furcal is good. He visibly slowed down going around second for his triple and STILL made it to third safe. And he made that awesome play in the 7th (?)
Is he an FA after the season?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Yeah...
I just watched the replay of his triple… Not a good decision by Furc. The Hawaiian missed the cutoff man and he still only made it by an eyelash.
must re-sign him and Punto
must.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I'm getting mighty tired of scrappy play and the revolving doors in the MI
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
Anyone know the status of Skip and his oblique?
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
I've seen the phrase "Not good" used.
Strauss (I think) speculated Greene would be replacing him for the NLCS.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
What would a Cards series be...
unless we got to call up someone from Memphis.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
i was going nuts about it at the time
but what an plate appearance by skip in the first.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Greene, and not McClellan?
TLR seems to prefer a 12-pitcher setup for the longer series, only tolerating 11 for the NLDS.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Oct 8, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
they ought to.
if they weren’t gonna put him in after carp’s first start in philly, they’re never going to put him in
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Had to leave him on the roster so he got his postseason share...
DUH
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
read in stltoday
that the decision for the last spot was between mcclellan and boggs and that westy wasn’t even an option. mcclellan is now healthy. i think it is a long shot that sanchez makes this roster now.
found the link. same article as the one that predicts cards rotation.
Winner of the prestigious 2011 MVL as presented by Alxfritz.
"You didn't win LOY, but you did win MVL, which is a prestigious award I just made up. And that’s something RiverRat can never take from you." - Alxfritz
I'd like to let you all in on the conversation I had this morning with my mom
Phone rings.
“Hey Alex, it’s Mom. Listen this kid I see (my mom’s a learning consultant) and his older siblings’ parents are going out of town and they need a babysitter for the week”
“Mom, people don’t tend to hire male babysitters, especially 24 year old male babysitters”
“Well, it’s a bunch of teenagers in highschool”
“Why do teenagers need a babysitter?”
“Well, the parents need someone there at night for a week who’s over 21, in case something happens”
“Yeah, I don’t know”
“Oh, I forgot to mention….they’re Stan Musial’s grandchildren”
So, yeah I’ll be making this call sometime soon.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 8, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
that's pretty cool
but if you let them do anything stupid, you’ll be in big trouble since you’re the only adult there. Just sayin.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yeah
I don’t want to be the one that let Stan Musial’s grandkids do something stupid.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 8, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
tuna melt sandwiches oh nooooo
wait.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think his grandson plays baseball at Truman
Wonder if he was one of the ones suspended for hazing/alcohol or whatever because of a party before the semester began.
You have got to be shitting me
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
If you meet Stan, ask him to introduce you to Torty.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
no one's actually seen Torty
except Master Allen
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
these automatic video clips on cardinals.com are awesome
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Was I imagining
that TLR made a long non-sensical statement about the squirrelly and torty alluding to the possibility that they are shacking up? I find it hysterical that these memes are being uttered by TLR on national TV in a post-game interview. What a year
Just win
by The Duke on Oct 8, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I hope not
The squirtle was bad luck in game 3.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
full Torty and squirrel quote
clearly TLR made the mistake of looking straight at Sager’s suit
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
TLR also making other decisions that day.......
It was a day that began when La Russa woke up at 10, and was so antsy, he started walking the downtown city streets. It was "kind of dangerous,’’ he said laughing, with fans recognizing him on the street, vowing he would go to bed a loser.
Am I the only one who thinks of his age and goes “…uh oh.”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
repost
Via BoDog.com, here are your first-round series prices:
Rangers -170 over the Rays (150)
Yankees -150 over the Tigers (130)
Brewers -170 over the Diamondbacks (150)
Phillies -300 over the Cardinals (250)
Odds to win the 2011 World Series
Philadelphia Phillies: 7/4
New York Yankees: 4/1
Detroit Tigers: 7/1
Milwaukee Brewers: 15/2
Tampa Bay Rays: 8/1
Texas Rangers: 8/1
Arizona Diamondbacks: 14/1
St. Louis Cardinals: 14/1
because TLR
vibe
spent most of the season feeling a 2008 vibe about this team, the blown saves etc
now………………2006 vibe…………… the abysmal grizzled veteran reliever being dumped for a younger more effective closer, the trade deadline middle infield upgrade…..
at times in the early season when
guys like D.D were getting it done it had the 06 vibe, then they began to suck, then they started to click..this team is way hotter than that team was though
because TLR
yep. this team is super hott!
Skip is hotter than like everyone on the 2006 team. Holliday is so much better looking than the whole 2006 outfield. Westbrook has those eyes. Theriot’s got the whole “pirate” thing going, chicks dig David Freese. Motte is sexy in that biker type of way. This is a very handsome team.
That’s what you were talking about right? Right?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
this is completely different from 06 because i expected them to win it all
i expect this team to find an epic way to fail & make me sad
Balls
i just mean
that i wasn’t expected a big ole video of yadi and ozzie hitting home runs or waino striking bitches out
you did not expect it....? hmm.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Oh...Aaron Heilman.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Those videos have been playing for about a week now
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
+1
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
But that's his gimmick...
I guess good announcing isn’t hereditary…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
i don't hate Joe Buck.
maybe it’s sentimental. But i like that he gets out of the way of the game. he’s on TV, alot of talking isn’t necessary, I think he lets the drama of the game take over. Watching his replays aren’t the most exciting though.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yes, I like that part of his style.
He doesn’t generally say more than he needs to to describe the action, which is good. But he’s so, so bad at conveying excitement. He seems genuinely bored by sports, like he’s just announcing the results of two random number-generators.
Wait…
i feel bad for him, he'll never get out from under his dads shadow
and no matter what, people from STL will get on him for not sticking up for the Cards enough, and everyone else will call him a homer
Balls
Wh
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 1:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
When does the WS lottery for tickets begin?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 1:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I got my condolences email this morning.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
For the world series?
Crap
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 2:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, for the World Series.
The raffle was for both the NLCS and the World Series.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
the mothership is saying
that tlr hasn’t picked his game 1 starter yet
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
they're waiting for the tortoise to pick
it takes a while
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
or the talisman
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Oooo
Intrigue?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 8, 2011 1:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope so. I don't want to have to see
Lohse pitch twice this series.
by mick311 on Oct 8, 2011 1:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Again TLR is using the communications arm of the organization to a perceived strategic advantage over Milwaukee.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Every team does it to some extent
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
or he simply doesn't want jaime thinking or answering questions about.
the guy is pretty protective of his young pitchers. particularly for keeping the pressure at a minimum in the post-season. not sure why that is …
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
this... what is this. tears?
how strange.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's what i thought
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
IS THAT ADAM WAINWRIGHT'S MUSIC?
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by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 4:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 6 recs
I held off on buying a torty shirt for fear of the Phillies, but now I am getting one
FOR TORTY
FIRE EVERYONE
OT reminder
Draconid showers tonight. Er, in a few hours. Brits may have a good show of it.
And this:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/10/07/141167121/looking-into-the-galaxys-heart-its-red
would've.
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Braves fan, which is something I’m not ashamed to admit. But I have family member in the Cardinals organization, so clearly my loyalties can be a tad conflicted. I visited Busch Stadium for the first time in late August during the Pirates series on a night when the Redbirds came back and won it in the 9th, 5-4. I told my sister to keep the faith; I thought the Brewers could choke (which wouldn’t be unprecedented), but never in my wildest dreams would’ve thought the Braves were the ones to gaak it up. Anyway, what this team has done is enough to make me a convert. Almost;-) What a run! This team is just damn fun to watch and highly admirable.
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by DavetheDawg on Oct 8, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
the braves just had some tough luck down the stretch
i think it would be quite a feat to lose hanson and jurrjens and still be able to make the postseason
Would've have mattered, really...
they would’ve been swept. Now, I can enjoy the Philly schadenfreude with a clear conscious.
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-Erk Russell
Whelp
It looks like if Mayor Nutter once some budwieser, he’ll have to go down to the corner store and get it.
Grit != flat out sucking.
"the team puts its best on the field night after night"
I’m pretty torn on this one. mainly re: skip schumaker. but he made it rather difficult to complain about him starting (well, in cf, yeah I can complain). now it seems skippy is out with an injury (unless there has been some updates I’ve missed after sleeping in today). I do like Punto and Furcal mif…. it is very nice to see elite (or near elite) defense up the middle finally in 2011. good timing for it as well.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions
Splits
Skippy
.287/ .334 / .347 / .682
Jay
.299 / .347 / .432 / .779
I don’t get it either. Only thing that makes any sense would be if Tony thought Jay would be completely overmatched by Halladay, if Jay is banged up worse than skip was at the start.
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
in retrospect
Jay looked fine out there. I think Tony was playing head-to-heads against Halladay and got away with it.
No way Schumaker catches that ball Utley hit.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
he was rewarding skip for his play
since carp obviously demanded punto at 2b
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony said it had to do with Jay looking overmatched against Halladay this year and earlier in the series
And that Schu and Punto had had relative success against Halladay before. No surprise there, standard SSS analysis by TLR.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
So I think I disagree somewhat with all the folks that give no consideration at all
to head to head matchups as useful data. I understand that SSS by definition means we can’t use asymptotic properties of the sampling distribution. But what are we trying to make inference on, after all? If we were to look at just the average across all pitchers and all ballparks, then we would not be trying to predict the outcome of a head-to-head matchup, i.e. the population then becomes the match up against all pitchers faced in a season and not vs. Halladay. So SSS is one problem with using head-to-head matchups even though the sample is from the correct population, i.e. skip vs. Halladay. But the wrong population is a problem with using a sample from across all pitchers, i.e. we assume that AB vs. each pitcher is distributed identically! That’s not correct either since surely every pitcher has different stuff. How do we properly combine both the average batting and head-to-head data? Maybe use some sort of empirical Bayes analysis?
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I think part of the issue is that the question, "is Batter X
A good hitter?" Is much more clearly relevant than " is batter X a good hitter against pitcher Y?"
A better way to look at matchups might be to look characteristically at the hitter and at the pitcher. If Pitcher Y has a great slider, is Batter X terrible with sliders? Here, it might be useful to look at scouting data.
I would be much, much happier to hear tony la russa say, “batter X is resting today because he’s 1-14 against pitcher Y. Batter X is having trouble adjusting to breaking balls and Pitcher Y is just deadly with a breaking ball” than hear “he’s 1-14 against this guy so he’s sitting.”
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by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 5:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I am not sure. I think the question, "Is batter X a good hitter?" is a longer
term question for making roster decisions. I think the question, “Is batter X a good hitter vs. pitcher Y?” Should be the question asked when deciding the lineup. I think we acknowledge the fact that the latter is a much more difficult question to answer. I think the scenario you presented w/ a great slider pitcher vs. a poor slider hitter does make sense. But isn’t pitching a lot more complicated than just fastball vs. .breaking balls?, i.e. location, sequence, speed differential, release point, movement, sharpness of break, consistency, deception, arm movement, etc. If so, then wouldn’t it make sense to look at the end result than trying to control for say 10+ factors?
I am not trying to defend TLR. I find him often indefensible. But just trying to brainstorm over methodological issues.
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yes
reasons like that make perfect sense.
Sometimes I wonder whether Tony makes decisions like this and doesn’t actually explain the real reason. He’ll just cite the matchup stats and not include whatever scouting info he has to go along with it.
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I doubt it.
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Because I'm sure some writer on VEB would have found that by now.
Or someone. Cards fans have a LOT of smart people that write about them and I’m sure someone, anyone, would have noticed that there’s a trend to his subs.
Unfortunately, all of the reasons, can be summed up by the personal matchups in 10 plate appearances or more (or even less sometimes!)
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They write about the hitters using video all the time
I think it would be pretty informative if one had a video of every PA against every player. I have no idea if they actually do any video data reduction or just review the raw video. But even if they do do that, then I would think that it would be pretty informative. I’ll take 10 PA’s on video over zero match up data any day.
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Well, I'll take career over matchups every day.
A good hitter who is 1-10 off a pitcher is better than a mediocre hitter who is 4-10 off a pitcher.
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We are not necessary disagreeing, right?
Career data and matchup data are both informative. You are saying that a small sample matchup data should not be the sole data for making decisions. I am saying that matchup data should not be completely discounted.
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Oh...
Well I guess yeah we agree. It completely depends on how the hitter looked though.
If he was 1-10 with six strikeouts, then yeah it’s probably not a bad idea to sit him.
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Considering that Papa Dunk tracks each individual pitch via his
multi-colored, log-scaled, polar-coordinate pitching charts (FSN showed it once and it looked extremely impressive), it would not surprise me that someone else would be tracking the batting performances by pitch.
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I'm certainly not in favor of giving no weight to matchups
Indeed, I give heavy weight to platoon match ups when I say Theriot should only hit LHP and Schu should only hit RHP.
But I disagree that the way TLR often uses matchbox- X inferior hitter is 4-10 against Y pitcher and Z superior hitter is 2-7 so TLR starts X hitter – is any sort of worthy analysis.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. I think most would agree that there should be some weight given.
I think we agree that the difficult question is, “How much weight and why?”
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Just bought Game 6 NLCS tickets in Milwauke
I think the Cardinals have won the last 11 road games I’ve attended, including Game 1 of the 06 WS in Detroit.
Can’t wait! But I’ll be ok with us punching our WS ticket before that game if they feel like it.
There supposedly had been some rumors
About a Votto for Bautista trade (other players were involved as well) Votto is from Canada iirc and it would open a spot for Yonder.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Dynasty ending
@Buster_ESPN
Buster Olney
Rival executives getting signals that the Reds won’t shop Joey Votto — but that they are fully prepared to listen to offers.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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"listen to offers" is a meaningless phrase
Everyone listens to offers. Doesn’t mean the Reds are going to seriously think about trading him.
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 8, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
we were listening to offers on Colby
after years of “don’t even bring him up or I’ll hang up on you.”
Grit != flat out sucking.
seems to me Mozeliak was trying to get rid of him
and that Votto isn’t unpopular like colby is
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 8, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
the 1B market in the offseason was already going to be crazy.....
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Martinez, Adams, Jay, and pick two prospects not named Miller
for Votto. Sayonara Pujols, make a run at Reyes. Profit!!!!
See above about possible Bautista trade
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2011/08/01/were-the-reds-working-on-something-big/
There are lots of other articles out there about this.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
wat
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Votto is Canadian...
that’s what they’re doing up there. Don’t think they won’t target him this winter…
hmmmmm
I just had a long conversation with my brother (a cubs fan) last night. he really wants them to get Votto somehow. interesting.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this is intriguing. I've heard other commentators
Suggest this. For the right package it could make sense. Votto is a great value but in just dollar amounts he’s no longer “cheap” by any stretch. You could put yonder alonso at first, and if the trade got you a good, cheap starter and a shortstop, you’d have a great team.
I’d watch the pujols/fielder negotiations. Some team is going to come out on the wrong end of the haggling, and be desperate to please the fan base.
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by tom s. on Oct 8, 2011 5:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bulls 402-0
but Jordan will be held under 200 points.
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surprise sweeps the nation as gyuzimi tries to coax a reaction out of cardinal fans
by prophetjohn on Oct 8, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Why ask the question...
if one of the two answers is unacceptable? The Brewers have more talent than the Cardinals. They appeared that way on paper back in April, then they proved it on the field. They also have the biggest home field advantage in baseball and four of the seven games are at Miller Park. Why wouldn’t I take the Brewers? Obviously I hope it works out otherwise…
Also, this.
well what about this
philly’s NLDS chances:
this
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tigers in 3
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 8, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rangers in 6, Cardinals in 6
I like the Rangers lineup alot. After dealing with Philly rotation, Brewers will seem like a break. (Since I’m still within the 24 hour rule, I reserve the right to flip-flop)
As a Mizzou fan, I am torn. Kinsler or Scherzer? I think I'll root for both.
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Can someone briefly explain to me the origins or Torty?
I live in Houston now so it’s a little harder to follow the Cards
Allen Craig has a pet tortoise. Some Cardinals told him to "Do it for Torty" before an AB earlier in the season, and he got a hit.
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Fredbird needs to go away
New mascots: Tory and rally squirrel.
yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man
The leather jacket is how you know she's a badass.
I think this would help. Toughen up the team’s image.
is that the girl from Saved By the Bell?
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NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Yeah...
when the show really sucked.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
no she came in toward the end. kelly kapowski and jesse spano randomly left for a season
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Haha
Haudricourt: Cards Lance Berkman on perception his team doesn’t like Brewers: “That’s correct.”
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by mysterui on Oct 8, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
no shit?
Never really woulda thought Berk would actually say that. They must REALLY not like them.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm sure nyjer morgan being a d-bag to carp earlier this season has something to do with it
but then again, they do a lot of things that make you scratch your head.
DO IT FOR TORTY!
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Remember that Lucroy called out TLR on his complaint about the lighting in Miller.
The Brewers hit Pujols on the hand and then Motte hit Braun. And that’s just this season.
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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup. Should be a chippy series. I wish Morgan wasn't involved, because I genuinely really dislike him.
Everything else in the “rivalry” just adds to the fun, in my opinion.
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Yeah, he seems like a dude who would always find a nice way to word something
unless there really were none. That’s it, T-Plush – YOU’VE PISSED OFF THE BERK!!!
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That's awesome.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you can describe the brewers in one word
DOUCHE
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by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really dislike them.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the only thing is, prince fielder seems like an alright guy
by the way, anyone see that interview with him and his kids on MLBN?
i realized that his kids were sitting two rows in front of me at game 3 of the NLDS in phoenix. can’t miss that hair.
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No that was Will Smith's son
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I like a few people on the Brewers -
Fielder, Counsell, Wolf, don’t mind Weeks
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 8, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
noted buffoon and Milwaukee resident Tom Haudricourt, upon being asked
whether he’s such an incompetent hack of a sportswriter that he put three first basemen in front of Albert Pujols in the 2008 MVP vote: “That’s correct.”
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WAT
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
That guy is a fool
he still tweets almost daily about the Braun HBP incident. can’t get over it to save his life.
i'm sure they acted the same with the Astros too
would've.
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this should read "GOB" though
"Note to the trappers at Busch Stadium, I cannot be caught. I am under the protection of the GOBS."
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
they should just sell
squirrel burgers.
om nom nom.
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I take it you've never been to Arkansas...
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
no, actually
and i hestitate to ask why it is that you ask…
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by Aranathor on Oct 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
you really need to go sometime
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I suggest floating the Buffalo River for a stretch.
There’s some really nice scenery along that river. And the drive thru that part of the Ozarks is pretty cool from what I remember.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
So the squirrel's going to be running around on a farm in the country with Boog?!?
THAT’S AWESOME!!
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
cool yahoo piece
So, does anyone else here like the Birds and want them to do well in the NLCS? Cuz I do.
DAMMIT, WHY DON’T THEY START IT NOW!!!
Gotta give them time to get over the hangover.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
glad I don't really have this problem
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
@AnswerDave Dave Brown
Zack Greinke just said Brewers don’t like Chris Carpenter because some of his attitude is “phony” and he yells too much
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
Is there a softer side to Carp that no one but the Brewers have ever seen?
I’m confused.
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by ducttape16 on Oct 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
His attitude is phony?
Did they not watch the game last nite?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't even understand that
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Someone else to add to people on that team that piss me off
Granted not so much pissed just very confused.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
maybe i'm wrong, but i can't remember anyone from our team ever singling out another player like that.
berkman might say “that is correct” when asked if we don’t like the brewers. but he’s never going to say, “we don’t like nyjer morgan because he is arrogant and has no respect of the game or its players.”
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I think fingers were pointed at the Reds last year...
granted that was a different story.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
when somebody calls you a whiny little bitch
fingers will get pointed, usually.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Or drop kicks you with spikes on...
as always you stay classy Cincinnati…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
yeah i was not counting that, because something specifically prompted it.
but like right now, if someone asked carp what he thought of greinke, i can’t imagine carp saying anything personal about him. i could be wrong.
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If I remember correctly
several Cardinals singled out Morgan after the tiff between he and Carp in St. Louis.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
also, after the time that Morgan tried to kill bryan anderson in an unnecessary collision
and the time that Morgan bizarrely somehow managed to spike albert in ST.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
I don't about kill, but it was a cheap shot.
At least Anderson had enough sense to stay out in front of the plate.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
*know
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we talking about the same Morgan that was suspended 7+8 games
for his week-long crime spree? The one that thew a ball at a fan in Philly (this one probably wasn’t malicious), clocked Anderson, ended Brett Haye’s season, called out his manager, was clothe lined by Gaby Sanchez (BTW, Gaby would rock in WWE Raw)?
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yes

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by BVHeck on Oct 8, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
okay i stand corrected.
its possible they occurred and i just missed it.
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Pujols said something or other about Morgan after the dip-throwing thing
can’t remember what it was though.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
that was in response to Morgan calling Albert "Alberta", IIRC
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
yeah, something along the lines of
“He’s a talented player, its a shame his shenanigans take away from his talent”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
This is silly.
I suppose Greinke would tell us that Morgan’s attitude is 100% authentic?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
his is just aided by imbalanced brain chemistry
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
100% asshat?
yeah, I’d say so.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
yeah, fuck mentally ill people
if you can’t keep your chemicals balanced, you have no credibility with me
personally I can't stand orphans or widows
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
And don't get me started on the orphaned widows.
Selfish pricks.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 8, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
and I have always suspected that handicapped people just aren't trying hard enough
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by TomCat009 on Oct 8, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
F'in Ryan Howard didn't even make to 1B.
f’in quitter.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
ill cowboy is Brad Thompson
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What's Brad Thompson up to these days?
No doubt he’s a janitor somewhere, mopping up other people’s messes.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 8, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah pretty much
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Yeah several years ago a young kid playing pro baseball felt a little lost and frustrated and didn't want anything to do with baseball
Then came back and became an All-Star, Cy Young winner, and one of baseball’s best pitchers. But don’t let that get in the way of a nice potshot.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 8, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He suffered from depression and social anxiety order
That’s not “feeling a little lost and frustrated” -
Also, I don’t know why I or anyone else shouldn’t potentially discount the weight or credibility of his comments, depending on what he says. I discount Ron Artest’s comments. I discount Ricky Williams’ comments. I discount Mike Tyson’s comments.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
To me the funny thing is that Greinke was not just expressing his own opinion on Carpenter
but that of the Brewers, saying that Milwaukee doesn’t like Carp because they think his yelling is phony. And yet folks are attacking Greinke personally for the opinion that he shares with his teammates.
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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Depression and Social Anxiety are things that everyone goes through at one point
Greinke’s was more extreme than most.
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No, clinical depression and social anxiety disorder
Are not things that “everyone” goes through. These are diagnoses that require treatment, and very often prescribed medication.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, different things entirely. It's not just a matter of scale.
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Yeah, I suppose I'm talking out of my ass
But I’ve definitely gone through phases of thought where depression or social anxiety have hit. I would have to think everyone has, so I’m having trouble seeing those disorders as being a product of a fundamentally different brain.
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Haha wow
Everyone has mental issues to some degree. Greinke’s were with dealing with the pressure of playing big league baseball. But I suppose that totally makes his opinion on other players invalid.
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I apologized for the comment above.
I don’t even know where I was going with that. I didn’t like what Greinke said about Carp and I got caught in the moment. No excuses. My grandmother is in the late stages of Alzheimer’s, so I know how devestating mentl illness can be. I’ll be more careful to proofread and think about what I’m posting.
Don't worry about it.
Everybody has made ill-advised comments. I have made several, myself. It’ll go away.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah my apologies, I shouldn't have commented until I read through the thread
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Phony is about the last thing I'd call Carp.
Asshole, douche, etc. I can understand but phony?
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yeah, I don't get that
ask the Phillies how phony Carpenter is….
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i think he meant asshole and was trying to be polite.
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Zack Greinke probably just hates ANY yelling.
Along with loud noises, bright lights, rooms that are too hot or too cold, being looked in the eye, clashing colors, most smells, and your stupid questions. Also he can’t pee when you are standing there. YOU’RE A BIG FAT PHONY AND ZACK GREINKE IS GOING TO RUN AWAY OUT WEST.
(I’m going to stop making fun of mental health issues, now)
how does he feel about squirtles?
Be afraid, Zack. Be very afraid.
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Ok Zach, I dont like you now either.
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by cj2k on Oct 8, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like Greinke's nice shy-guy persona is being corrupted over there.
would've.
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there's a Scott Baio short film coming up somewhere in here
would've.
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...
We don’t like Chris Carpenter because he’s a mean bully and this one time, this one time he got really, really mad at us and we didn’t do anything, but he was scary.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 8, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I think that's how Gibby was viewed.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also
And he didn’t seem to give a fuck.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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If the first round were 7 games, do we still win that series?
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The current format really sucks for the better team
But good for baseball, I guess?
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I think it goes seven and is a toss-up.
I don’t think much separates the Phillies, Cardinals, and Brewers.
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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
TBH, the cards had no business losing game 3.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Which is why the play games inside television sets.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
one could argue Phils had no business losing game 2
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I don't like that argument.
But still, in game 2, the Cards had 13 hits to the phillies 6, and drew 4 walks to their 3. game three, they were outhit 12-7 and 4 walks to 2. The cards outplayed them game 2 – 5. imo.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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sure, sure
But redistribute the runs from game 1 to the others, and the Phillies can sweep.
Carp probably doesn't start game 2 in a 7-game series
That changes pretty much everything… we could easily have been up 3-1 or down 1-3 after game 4.
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yeah, I think so
considering they won 2 of 3 in Philly.
….adding, that means they took 5 of their last 7 games @ CBP. Pretty impressive given the strength of that team.
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What kind of question is this?
Maybe??
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Remember this one?
“Where still n 1st and I hope those crying birds injoy watching tha Crew in tha Playoffs!!! Aaaaahhhh!!!”
Morgan didn’t realize at the time that St. Louis would be watching them from across the field in the opposing dugout….
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hell neither did I...
This is gonna be sweet…
They have to be psyched out a little bit especially after we upset Philly.
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I'm guessing that spelling really wasn't his main focus in school.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That's bordering on racist.
I think…
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pot, meet kettle.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 8, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
f'in Bosnians
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm shocked you brought that up.
SHOCKED
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Is it ever for athletes?
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
guess not always
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
if BB writes like most engineers I know
it probably wasn’t ;)
Allen Craig, OTOH, might be a better fit for this conversation, since he (1) actually graduated college and (2) with a degree in social sciences, rather than engineering.
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Now, now. Why are you picking on us engineers? We can write.
It just involve many greek letters and mathematical symbols.
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Who was it that was saying the Cardinals were the most hated team in baseball?
From the outside it would appear the Brewers would be the natural choice, and I would say that if I didn’t root for one of their rivals.
Honestly, it might be the Cards
Carp, Tony et al. seem to do more than their fair share of jawing on and off the field.
I tend to agree that a lot of people aren't fans...
More of the good stuff for us though.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Yeah, I would not be at all surprised.
In addition to those two, I’ve always suspected that Pujols is kind of a dick.
Everybody loves Berkman, though. Gotta love Berkman.
you can tell pujols is a dick by the way he talks to everyone when they get to first base
Grit != flat out sucking.
Yeah, sadly...
…the “complainers” label doesn’t drop from the sky. TLR always seems right in the middle of some faux-controversy about bad lighting or some shit.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 8, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Or rubbed balls. OTOH, the Kenny Roger's secret recipe on his palm was totally
not brought up by TLR during the WS. Maybe because of his Leland relationship?
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the way I see this....
if Brandon Phillips were on my team I’d be a major fan. If Nyjer Morgan was on my team, I’d still think he was a jackass.
Put Carp, Pujols, Molina, Holliday etc on anybody else’s team and watch the jerseys fly off the shelves.
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by nota bene on Oct 8, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
ayup
I mean, don’t get me wrong, I hate Brandon Phillips. But I’d love him if he was my team. Morgan. Ugh.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I kind of like Brandon Phillips.
/Be gentle.
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I like Brandon Phillips, too.
He’s like a professional wrestling heel the way he hams it up about St. Louis.
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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Then again, I've lost nearly ALL of the stigma from last year for the Reds.
As far as I’m concerned, the deep hatred rivalry we had with them is long gone for me now.
Seriously, I feel no ill will towards the Reds at all.
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i'll never really get over that until Cueto is no longer a red
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Oct 8, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have a strong dislike for Cueto
after he kicked LaRue in the head and Carp in the back. That was bush league no matter how you cut it.
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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
but BP is actually very good
morgan is is a good defender getting extremely luck on balls in play this season
What? No way. The Brewers are VERY likable.
I suspect 80% of fans who otherwise don’t care about any NL Central team will be pulling for the Brewers.
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Lots of people hate them because of "Beast Mode"
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I'd expect most non-Brewers/non-Cards fans
are going to root for the Brewers, cause of the novelty. Cards have been in the playoffs repeatedly the last 10 years, and won the whole thing once.
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kinda looks like a deranged uncle/grandpa after thanksgiving dinner
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after one too many scotchs
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I found this condensation left under my glass of tea at about the 7th inning last night

This could have taken any shape, and yet it manifested itself in the form of Torty Craig. Combine that with the fact that I got out of my late class 45 minutes early last night, allowing me to see the first three innings I would have otherwise missed, and I think the GOBs were looking out for us.
by Phizzle on Oct 8, 2011 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 19 recs
that is beautiful
please, pick up a can of spray shellac from home depot and make it permanent.
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Are you accepting pilgrimages to your Our Lady of the Torty shrine?
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by totalloser on Oct 8, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
tortoise of turin?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
by sportsman on Oct 8, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You should use a towel for that in the future
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 8, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lance lynn!
@chrisduncan11 chris duncan
Look for lance Lynn and McClellan to both be on. Westbrook off and Schumaker off with broken toe and pulled ribcage
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hmm, he followed it up with a tweet saying this is just a hunch he has.
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The pitching coach's son has "hunch" as to the bullpen makeup.
Yes, I’m sure everyone reading his tweets will believe him.
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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm...........I'm not going to say what I'm thinking........just not.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I read that as Schu has broken toe and pulled ribcage
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me too
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
Please no McCllelan
I BEG OF YOU!
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Why not?
The staff clearly wasn’t giving up enough homers in the LDS. They team created a need for KMac.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 8, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Lynn? Seriously?
I hadn’t heard anything about him being anywhere near ready to throw again.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
started throwing bullpens last week of season
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hanging out with Freese in the weight room.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 8, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah. Nobody will even sit next to Freese in the dugout.
His injuries are contagious. And it’s airborne.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 8, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Freesitis - airborne viral infection,
contagious form of Baldellulism.
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 8, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
KMac stepped on his foot with his spikes on.
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CCDNGAF
And decided to luggage his foot.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 8, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah. Reading more, it's just a hunch.
I would be mildly enthusiastic to see Lance Lynn on the roster.
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sorry that's my fault. i didn't see the other tweet at the time.
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actually they cancel each other out if this happens
please no k-mac
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
tough choice
I think I’d feel slightly more comfortable with westy
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, Strauss is a better source than Duncan...
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how so?
I remember Duncan calling the Lynn Call up and the Sanchez call up. I don’t see why he should be discredited as a source.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I don't know.
I’ve never thought Strauss was a bad source though. I mean when it comes to pure roster moves and such and such.
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oh me neither
I don’t see any reason to discredit any of their roster moves insight
Grit != flat out sucking.
f'n zoomzoom
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Handegg alert!
Sweet Myrtle the Squirtle, Oklahoma State has 56 points at halftime against Kansas. Their QB has thrown for 5 TDs (at halftime).
somehow this reminded me to tend to my fantasy teams
thanks
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Do home teams provide the batboys?
Cards batboy in dugout didn’t looked too thrilled that the Cards won.
"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR
He's missed enough school as it is.
Was eager to get back to the library.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 8, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if everybody else got to get hammered and you had to clean up the mess
during the party, you wouldn’t be jumping up and down either.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I'd gladly clean up all the Torty and Buschy turds, man sweat, shredded jerseys
and Ariel Brut and Budweiser wash in the clubhouse.
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yes.
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Mr. Tanner doesn't travel? hmm.
would've.
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nats annoucer is pretty annoying
“he stepped on the mask and maybe hurt himself.”
Grit != flat out sucking.
Ya, Ray Knight trying to do analysis
when he had no fucking idea what was going on.
That hit on Yadi was really bush, too. Ramming him was more important than touching the plate.
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That's awful.
Seriously, what the fuck did he have against Bryan Anderson?
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Talking smack
i think it’s funny when teams do it, but when my Team i root for does it it makes me squeamish.
For example I’m a bears fan and usually any time Urlacher talks crap before a game, it’s not going to end well…He doesn’t specifically do it a lot like a T.O. or somebody, but he has…a la last yr before N.E. yuck…
so let the crew talk smack and the birds stay silent…. I’d prefer it that way
because TLR
Let the play on the field do the talking?
by hangingfromatree on Oct 8, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds cliche
but i cringe any time a player on a team i like does it. i do think that regardless of what teams say, there is some fruit to the bulletin board talk
because TLR
I like the same mlb/nfl teams
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
similar situation
I grew up near moline IL
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I think I misread your comment
but was also thinking about football maybe
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
same here
i know quite a few cards/bears fans actually
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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 8, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm from the Metro-East and grew up liking the Bengals after the Cardinals left.
I think it was because Boomer Esiason was so dreamy.
by Houdinimachine on Oct 9, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Greinke haha you pansy
haha he doesn’t like Carp because “he yells too much.” aww you poor thing. I know about his social anxiety issues, I doubt he meant anything by it. More funny than anything else.
for someone who had anxiety with a team like the royals
imagine how he’s going to feel this series…
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yeah, I'd be pretty happy if we never mentioned his anxiety issues again.
He’s a great pitcher. Let’s try to beat him.
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i'm not disagreeing with you
everyone feels the need to mention his anxiety issue when they confront his comments about carpenter. it’s irrelevant and it’s terrible logic
I disagree that its irrelevant.
His history with anxiety issues makes it logical to think he is NOT someone who would make a comment to draw attention to himself. Thus his comment shouldn’t be taken as if he was “taking a shot” or whatever
what doesn't make sense,
I was clarifying I didn’t mean I think social anxiety disorder is funny, rather I think the comment is funny. I don’t even see why the first post needed clarification, its obvious the way it written what I meant.
and this isn't t plush we are dealing with
rather the opposite. he is not the kind of guy who would say anything to intentionally draw attention to himself. he hates even giving postgame interviews.
what doesn't make sense
is that “he yells too much” isn’t offensive in the context of the speaker having social anxiety disorder. i don’t understand the relationship
Sure he was taking a shot. He meant what he said, and if we think he's being a jerk, we should say so (though I don't think he is).
Honestly, I think he made a mistake in two ways:
1. No point in saying it. It’s clear they all think that.
2. It’s not phony. Carp really is that guy!
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I would expect an ex-hockey player to get hyped up and yell during games
especially when he’s doing well
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd HATE Carp if he were a Brewer. I LOVE him as a Cardinal!
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yeah I'm not a huge hockey fan either
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
not what I meant...
the quote that he thinks he yells too much is funny to me. the only reason I mentioned the social anxiety is to point out I doubt he meant anything by it given his history.
I'm either in the minority or the awful, awful majority here...
…but I think it’s at least a little funny. Or better said, it can be, if done without malice.
Like, Zack Greinke is a wonderful pitcher and by all accounts a really good guy. He had a medical issue and it was handled very well by everyone involved, and it appears he has a handle on it. I think that’s great.
I also think I’m going to make an occasional Holden Caulfield joke about Zack Greinke, especially because of the “phony” line (I can’t not do it). This is not because I think social anxiety disorder carries a stigma, or is inherently funny (DURR HE’S SHY DURR). It is because it’s a fact — a medical problem that is in the past — about Zack Greinke on which jokes can sometimes be hung. I also crack jokes about Lance Armstrong’s balls, when appropriate.
Also, I hope this gets super contentious and divides the commentariat deeply. Fun times ahead.
by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
YOU'RE AN AWFUL PERSON AND SHOULD BE ASHAMED!
Balls!
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by a fink on Oct 8, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
its funny that holden caufield said high school is full of phonies, that the brewers compared the cardinals to a kid in high school that no one likes, and that grienke called carp a phony
its like they’re all in a sallinger book club.
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by IHeartBoog on Oct 8, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
So you're saying that the Brewers were molested by their high school teacher?
Or like, almost molested, or maybe they just misinterpreted a totally innocent thing?
Interestinger and interestinger.
by Pegasus on Oct 8, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
are they critiquing the wild card format?
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
aggghhh where the heck is the Laughing Man avatar?
it’s been hours
would've.
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or was it changed out already
would've.
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it could be funny if it were relevant
like when braun called him awkward when he tried to do the bear claw thing. that was kind of funny. but when he says carpenter is phony and the response is “durr, he has anxiety” it can’t be very funny because it doesn’t make any sense
The guy seems more like he is autistic rather than anxious
he just seems to be moving through the world completely to beat of his own drum
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Yeah I mean, I'm with you.
I think you explained yourself fine, and your comment is getting misread. Sanctimony will do that to people.
I didn't think it was poorly phrased.
I thought the meaning was pretty clearly “that’s a weird thing to say, and Greinke’s history indicates he’s not just stirring the pot.” So I read you as a little… let’s say trigger-happy, yes. My bad — I’ll take your word for it that it was an honest misread.
funny that now i'm the one that has to be given the benefit of the doubt
and not the person who juxtaposed “you poor thing” with “I know about his social anxiety issues”
i can kind of see why you would find that funny
i don’t see why that statement is funny specifically because of greinke’s anxiety
the part about his social anxiety was meant to be seperate from the quote being funny
i guess i worded it poorly. the part mentioning his anxiety has nothing to do with it being funny, but just his history with anxiety issues make me think he would not be someone who would try to draw attention to himself
apparently hungover people have social anxiety
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I understand what you're saying.
Your original post wasn’t clear (the “I know he has social anxiety issues” was preceded by a sarcastic “poor thing.” Can you see how it was mis-read? And it has nothing to do with sanctimony. Anyway, now people are talking about it more in general than regarding your post.
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Huge difference between shy and social anxiety.
A person suffering from social anxiety will often feel like everyone is constantly judging them. It can be incredibly debilitating. Calling it shyness is disingenuous.
by Houdinimachine on Oct 9, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
The reaction to this statement is completely bizarre.
For the life of me I cannot understand why Cardinals fans are attacking Greinke for stating the reason why the Brewers—a team that consists of many more folks than just Greinke—dislike Chris Carpenter. Greinke appears to share the opinion, but it isn’t just his, so why would we attack him and his social anxiety disorder in retaliation for the Brewers’ collective opinion of Carp?
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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
this makes the brewers the guy that tries to get you pissed off
and then goes, hey easy there fella.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I see what you're saying a little now.
The video is pretty funny. It’s just funny the way he says it.
Damnit, I like Greinke more now.
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interesting
junkstats
Tony La Russa’s Cardinals made the 5th-fewest pitching changes in the NL, by the way. Surprising.
that is surprising to say the least.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 8, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouuldn't say "shocking."
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 8, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
WOOGIEWOOGIEWOOGIE
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 8, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like this would primarily be a function of how many innings a team's starters pitched
I’m guessing we’re near the top (though certainly behind Philadelphia) in innings pitched by starters if we’re fifth in fewest pitching changes. This would account for TLR’s predilection for swapping pitchers (though he probably isn’t all that different from other managers) while accounting for this stat.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 8, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
1. pitchers pitching deep into games.
2. 5th fewest in the NL is only out of 18 teams so it exaggerates how few.
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Does it seem like Nyjer has a special disdain for the Cardinals in particular?
It just seems like he has, regardless of what team he was playing for. I have a theory that something happened in his formative years growing up in the bay area that fostered this sentiment. Did TLR run over his bike during his A’s tenure?
On a personal note, I’ll always remember Al Hrabosky as a douche from when I attended a Cards signing when I was 9 years old. I was over the moon, just got signed pictures from Terry Pendleton, Tom Lawless and Curt Ford when next in line was Al Hrabosky. Being unawares as to his ethnicity and perceived mental state, I took the opportunity to ask “why do they call you the Mad Hungarian?” He just rolled his eyes, and said “get movin’ kid!” Dick.
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Probably Al *and* Horton.
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by bgh on Oct 8, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
so first we had brandon phillips calling us names
now nyjer morgan is taunting us
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 8, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Also possible Nyjer may have lost a childhood pet
to one of TLR’s infamous midnight pet-snatching raids.
TLR loves animals.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 8, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I just took a quick gander throught this thread
it took a relatively dark turn regarding mental illness…
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
Who's ready for some more Carp HA! memes
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 8, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
I was talking about the carp picture in general
but the nyjer morgan beer one is pretty classic.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
beer one is my favorite too
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by Notorious PSC on Oct 8, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I posted the first one ony my FB page
But didn’t take credit for it. It got 9 likes almost instantly.
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 9, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i just saw the interview with Greinke on mlb network
mental illness or not, idgaf.
He does appear to be a complete idiot, though
yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man
welllll...
he did miss a few starts at the beginning of the season because of an injury in a pickup basketball game, why dont you just ride a motorcycle without a helmet roethlisberger
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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 8, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
mlb network is covering the brews
and that awful tweet by nyjer morgan…I think english teachers everywhere just puked.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
jaime speaks
talks about Carp at 5:20
ignores the “why do the brewers hate him” bit.
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oh, and the next video is TLR talking about Nyjer
Nyjer has a “revved up motor”. lol.
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here's greinke's whole press conference if anyone would like context
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19867075&topic_id=&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_19867075&v=3
i think the context helps. he was mostly speaking for his teammates. and i think the opinion of carpenter is a reasonable opinion for an opposing player to hold
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Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
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