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St. Louis Cardinals 5 Philadelphia Phillies 4: The Arthur Rhodes Long-Troll

Months of detailed set-up for this one at-bat.

Who knew Chris Carpenter would be playing the Roy Halladay to Cliff Lee's Kyle Lohse today? Going into this series I don't think enough credit was given to the advantage the Cardinals have on offense compared to the Phillies—Pujols may be coming off the worst season of his career, after all, but Howard's OPS was .835. It's not as big a gap as the difference between the Phillies' pitching and everybody else's, but it's a significant one, and it even involves Ryan Theriot so long as a left-hander is pitching. 

As for the three days' rest thing, it turns out it didn't work. I had a sinking feeling about it, but I wanted to be convinced, so I can't act like I predicted it would turn out quite like that. I didn't predict, either, that the Cardinals bullpen would turn in a nearly perfect six innings and that Tony La Russa's various bullpen machinations would work out perfectly for the first time in nearly a hundred years. 

So: Thank you Fernando Salas, for keeping the game from turning that corner between feels-like-it's-out-of-reach and okay-now-it's-out-of-reach; thank you Arthur Rhodes, for looking like Arthur Rhodes; thank you Ryan Theriot, for being what you're being; and thank you Cardinals, for rallying—which was hard enough to expect—and holding the rally with one run, which was more mind-boggling still. 

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 3, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

IT'S ALL DENSE UP IN HERE

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 3, 2011 12:45 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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by a fink on Oct 3, 2011 12:45 AM EDT reply actions   4 recs

Have you heard? Conan's on TBS.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

and looks incredibly stupid, but the 7ish goth intern says he pulls it off

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

"You ask for a little and you get a Motte." — MLBN

groan

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Oct 3, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions   5 recs

Greg, Harold, Eric, or that other guy?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

AAAHHHHHHHHH

"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields

by Thelonious Dunk on Oct 3, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

so white sox get a little promo

For the postseason on fox and tbs and the cardinals still don’t have 1

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 3, 2011 12:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Neither does Detroit, afaik

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by monkeysareblue on Oct 3, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I read this as porno

And I was confused

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 3, 2011 7:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

woooo

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 3, 2011 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

"Who knew Chris Carpenter would be playing the Roy Halladay to Cliff Lee's Kyle Lohse today?"
Let’s just lock it down from here out, and do to them what they did to us yesterday.
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by a fink on Oct 2, 2011 8:00 PM CDT reply actions

Well, at least I called for it.

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by a fink on Oct 3, 2011 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

You got that.

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by a fink on Oct 3, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carp says he felt great physically. He thinks he wasn't where he needed to be mentally.

Not blaming it on short rest.

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by a fink on Oct 3, 2011 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

that's hard to believe

but if he says so

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

He looked good for the most part

A lot of close counts and pitches.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Phillies looked really disciplined against Carp

it seemed like they didn’t swing at a single pitch out of the zone.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 3, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

In all honesty he really didn't throw a lot of pitches in the zone...

whosoevers Idea it was for him not to throw from a mound in between starts is too blame.

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by Red Blazer on Oct 3, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

this was his side session

which he doesn’t do anymore
and this is what it is

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 3, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

he was all over the place in the first

by prophetjohn on Oct 3, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

eh...

…he looked like a guy who didn’t get his between starts workout in.

That throwing session you really want to be addressing pitches/locations you are going to use in the up coming start. It took him a couple inning to sharpen up. But I though if we would have left him in he could have gone into cruise mode.

That said he is ready for Game 1 against Milwaukee.

by BigJawnMize on Oct 3, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I heard it mentioned during the broadcast that Carp

hasn’t done any side sessions at least since the all-star break.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 3, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

MOTH.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 3, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is Orkin on call for Tuesday?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

somebody check my math here

I think these are the matchups for the rest of the series….

Tuesday—Garcia vs. Hamels
Wednesday—Jackson vs. Halladay?

Game 5 (if necessary)* would be Carp vs. Lee again, I think

  • disclaimer for warding off GOB purposes

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 3, 2011 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

oswalt?

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could be

but Halladay would be on 3 days rest

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh shit, you're right

so it’d be

Garcia vs Hamels
Jackson vs Oswalt

and then game 5 would be Carp vs Halladay.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 3, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think a lot rides on how game 3 plays out

they may or may not go with Halladay in game 4

I can see the wisdom of trying to use both Halladay and Lee twice in a best of 5… who couldn’t

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 3, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think they'd risk it

I can’t count to 5, is why I thought Halladay would be on reg. rest for Wed. He’d surely pitch game 5. It’s not like Hamels & Oswalt suck or anything….if the Phillies win in 4, they’d have Halladay/Lee lined up for the NLCS. If it goes to 5 games, then Halladay pitches game 5 and Lee is lined up to open the NLCS.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 3, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right.

If Oswalt is your 4th best starter, the other three clearly do not suck.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds reasonable

Oswalt scares me not at all

having said that…

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 3, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

true dat

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 3, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

at least our hitters have seen him a million times

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 3, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

and we have a puma on our side

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 3, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

They'll throw Oswalt against Jackson

And bring Halladay back on full rest for Game 5.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 3, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

poor salas

Referred to as sally by chris carpenter

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think Salas deserves to call Carp "Sally", after tonight

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by SleepyCA on Oct 3, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I hope my streak continues.

My gf and I are 7-0 on the year for all StL professional sports. 5-0 for the Cardinals. We have tickets to both games.

It is what it is.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 3, 2011 12:52 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

It is what it is.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Night all. This game was amazing

Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."

by cj2k on Oct 3, 2011 12:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Leaving this here, scroll up from it to make your own theory.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 1:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Or start here and work down. Your choice.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

the thing is

this annotating leads me to believe that you’re really yadi2second

by DanUpBaby on Oct 3, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

muhahaha.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 3, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I only strive to be that thorough, sometimes.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

one of the all-time most useful posts

is you annotating the eel bombing saga.
Excellent work.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 3, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

That was one really, really slow morning at work.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

stealing our f'n towels!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 3, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quit the Mariners to play softball.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably couldnt put up with boog anymore

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 3, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fun fact:

Outfield of Ichiro, Byrnes, and Milton Bradley.

This would have been a sitcom if NBC created it.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

if they could find a way to get zambrano...

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 3, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't he in Seattle a while back?

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by RiverRat on Oct 3, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, NBC makes shit like Whitney

that would have been on FOX & they would have cancelled it after 6 episodes & then teased then fans for 50 years about bringing it back or making a movie

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 3, 2011 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's funny,

is that she’s producing a show on CBS (2 Broke Girls) that’s a lot better then her namesake show in NBC. She could easily play the Kat Dennings role on that show, so it appears that she hitched her name to the wrong horse, simply because they put her name on the title of the show.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 3, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

i thought her show might be funny bc she's so funny, it's sooo not though

and 2Broke Girls isn’t that funny either. but it has more promise than Whitney

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 3, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I laughed a few times at the Whitney pilot.

Not the second episode, though.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 4, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

same here. 2 girls was funnier tonight also

it’s like big bang, you just got to turn your brain off & not think about.

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 4, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's lobbying for robot umps.

Can’t be all bad.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 3, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Verlander threw 251 innings this year.

HFS

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by RiverRat on Oct 3, 2011 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

and carp threw 237 at age 36

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 3, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Give Chris Carpenter some fucking run support at all this year

and he probably throws about that amount as well.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 3, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carp already threw the most in the NL

What more do you want? I think it’s probably more PHing and the DH. The top four or five SPs in IP are AL guys because they just go until they’re tired or in trouble — no need to worry about PHing for them.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 3, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to hang it on the fridge.

Put some stickers on it, too.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 3, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

hahaha

If there is an alternate universe where I actually have kids, I hope alternate-clank does this.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 3, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what's funny?

You’ll have to do this all the time in the real world, so this is probably the best possible experience for you to have as a student.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 3, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

One of my Java profs. in college flat-out told us he wasn’t teaching us a programming language. It was our own damn responsibility to learn the language; he’d just help with programming concepts and such.

Those of us that didn’t drop the class learned a lot that semester..

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 3, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cat and Motte.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 1:16 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

HA HA HA

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 3, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Miklasz Tweet
miklasz Bernie Miklasz
Lance Berkman on the Cardinals: “We’re like a good plowhorse. We just keep plugging away.”

OK, that one just sounds made up. How many folksy quotes is Berk gonna hit us with via Cardinals writers?

by Cardinals645 on Oct 3, 2011 1:27 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

All of them. All of them.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's from Texas

It’s quite possible they still use plow-horses to farm in Texas….

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 3, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

If this is a euphemism, I don't wanna know.

@miklasz Bernie Miklasz
Sitting at Citizens Bank Park press box, watching @JoeStrauss get his balloon party underway.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 3, 2011 1:42 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

balloon party >> unicorns

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 3, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm catching up with old threads and this little nugget made me laugh.
Regardless, we’re going to have to win Game 2 against the bullpen — I give our club no chance of touching up Cliff Lee. We hit lefties horribly and he’s the best lefty in the playoffs (apologies to CC Sabathia).

Pretty funny looking back. Link

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 3, 2011 2:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not a prophet, lol

However, I think my point about our bullpen lefties against their left handed hitters has proven true so far this series: Rzep couldn’t get anyone out in Game 1 and it cost us a chance to win it. Rzep and Rhodes both pitched well last night and it led to a Cardinal win.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 3, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

kudos to the bullpen, seriously

i said all day that last night’s bullpen wasn’t the real stl bullpen, and that we can be lights out when needed. i’m glad the gobs didn’t smite me

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 3, 2011 2:18 AM EDT reply actions  

shame we didn't use the real STL bullpen last night.

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 3, 2011 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

just before craig got the triple,

i totally yelled out “DO IT FOR TORTY!” so it works

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 3, 2011 2:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Well don't stop now. You've obligated yourself to be the Tort-leader.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 3, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was so fired up

i wanted to show my boyfriend the endy chavez catch and the carlos beltran K

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 3, 2011 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

instead, he went to bed

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 3, 2011 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, she IS a lawyer

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 3, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Me too!

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 3, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so happy right now...

Even still at 2:00am… I love this feeling.

"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig

by pattimagee on Oct 3, 2011 3:15 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Didn't know this

From Stark:

Until Sunday night, that man, Clifton Phifer Lee, was an insane 94-1 in his career when his team gave him a four-run lead (or more) in either the regular season (87-1) or postseason (7-0).

Also, Phifer?

by DisplacedCardsFan on Oct 3, 2011 3:18 AM EDT reply actions  

So, I've lost faith in non-VEB blogs.

The Good Phight is putting that loss on umpires. (Groan)… Also we didn’t “deserve” (whatever the fuck that means) to win that game even though the score at the end had us with more runs than them.

I mean… obviously I’m biased, but that umpiring was not catastrophically one-sided. Or game-changing awful. And we got shafted too. Also, watching the game – again biased – I thought we actually played better not that we got lucky and “got away with one.”

Thoughts?

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 3, 2011 3:57 AM EDT reply actions  

well

the strike zone was unpredictable for both sides….the Phillies certainly have some legit complaints about it, but both sides had to deal with how erratic the strike zone was. I’m not sure if Tony bitching about it had any real impact, but people are going to be talking about his in-game comments tomorrow rather than the fact that Carpenter wasn’t very good, which is probably why Tony does stuff like that. I thought the rest of the umpiring was fine; for example, Descalso had a checked swing call that I was sure was blown when I saw it live, but the replay confirmed the call.

I agree that the Cards overall outplayed the Phils. If you want to think about it in terms of luck, the Cards really should have won yesterday and lost today, so I guess it kind of evened out. Both teams have now blown 3 run 1st inning leads, which should make the rest of the series even crazier. But the Phillies bats were totally put to sleep by the bullpen. Seriously, 6 innings of bullpen and all they could manage is 1 single and 1 HBP? That’s the story of the game right there.

Both teams were playing hardass in this game, too: Jay hitting Chooch, Utley taking out Theriot. Scrabble was pitching inside to Utley in the 8th, so Utley leaned into one (pretty blatant if you ask me, but that’s never called). Phillies fans can bitch about BABIP, but the Cards were hitting the ball hard; 2 triples and 3 doubles. Craig’s triple was off Victorino’s glove; I didn’t see where Vic was playing Craig before the pitch, but obviously it must have been just a little too shallow.

P.S. IMHO the Rollins pickoff was worse than any of the 3 baserunners the Cards lost. I think that was a straight steal and not a hit & run. He committed before the pitch was thrown.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 3, 2011 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed on the Rollins steal

He was going on first movement. Scrabble has a very effective move to first though — he disguises his throw home until the very last possible second before delivering, which allows him to pick off runners who are going on first movement. That’s the second guy he’s picked off in as many weeks.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 3, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

running on a lefty + Molina seems like a terrible idea in the first place

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 3, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

"The Good Phight is putting that loss on umpires"

Where was this said?

And where was it said, as you quote, that the Cardinals didn’t “deserve” to win?

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm assuming stlcardsfan4 meant the comments as opposed to (or in addition to) the main posts,

and given that assumption it took me about 30 seconds to find this and this (which was greened by the commenters) regarding the first claim. I don’t know about “deserve,” but there clearly are folks at The Good Phight blaming the umps for the loss, and that point of view isn’t exactly being shouted down. (By the way, I realize the poster in the second link says the strike zone “most likely” wouldn’t have affected the outcome, but then he/she goes on to explain how the Phillies were hurt by the strike zone; so he/she is clearly putting the loss, at least to some degree, on the umps – and again, his/her comment went green.)

That said, of all the sketchy calls the worst one was clearly the K on Utley from what I saw. But there were plenty of others, many of which burned the Cards.

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 3, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

Comments.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 4, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't we have like 13 hits to their 6?

and 5 runs to their 4?

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 3, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He plays for the Phillies now.

I still like him but obviously now I want him to lose when playing my other teams.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 3, 2011 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just admit

that once you found out that his middle name was Phifer, the gloss came off the idol just a little bit, didn’t it?

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 3, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last night was a beautiful expect the unexpected moment

It was so awesome

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

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