St. Louis Cardinals 5 Philadelphia Phillies 4: The Arthur Rhodes Long-Troll
Who knew Chris Carpenter would be playing the Roy Halladay to Cliff Lee's Kyle Lohse today? Going into this series I don't think enough credit was given to the advantage the Cardinals have on offense compared to the Phillies—Pujols may be coming off the worst season of his career, after all, but Howard's OPS was .835. It's not as big a gap as the difference between the Phillies' pitching and everybody else's, but it's a significant one, and it even involves Ryan Theriot so long as a left-hander is pitching.
As for the three days' rest thing, it turns out it didn't work. I had a sinking feeling about it, but I wanted to be convinced, so I can't act like I predicted it would turn out quite like that. I didn't predict, either, that the Cardinals bullpen would turn in a nearly perfect six innings and that Tony La Russa's various bullpen machinations would work out perfectly for the first time in nearly a hundred years.
So: Thank you Fernando Salas, for keeping the game from turning that corner between feels-like-it's-out-of-reach and okay-now-it's-out-of-reach; thank you Arthur Rhodes, for looking like Arthur Rhodes; thank you Ryan Theriot, for being what you're being; and thank you Cardinals, for rallying—which was hard enough to expect—and holding the rally with one run, which was more mind-boggling still.
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The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 12:43 AM EDT reply actions 12 recs
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IT'S ALL DENSE UP IN HERE
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
by nota bene on Oct 3, 2011 12:45 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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by a fink on Oct 3, 2011 12:45 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
so are they going to play that same song on every intro video on mlb network?
Written in the Stars?
so bad.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 3, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions
Have you heard? Conan's on TBS.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
and looks incredibly stupid, but the 7ish goth intern says he pulls it off
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
they wanted wynonnas big brown beaver
But they feared the backlash
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 3, 2011 12:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
"You ask for a little and you get a Motte." — MLBN
groan
"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR
by vico on Oct 3, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
which genius said that
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 3, 2011 12:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Greg, Harold, Eric, or that other guy?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 3, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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by a fink on Oct 3, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 3, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Indeed, good sir. Indeed.
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by a fink on Oct 3, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
AAAHHHHHHHHH
"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields
by Thelonious Dunk on Oct 3, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
so white sox get a little promo
For the postseason on fox and tbs and the cardinals still don’t have 1
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 3, 2011 12:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Neither does Detroit, afaik
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 3, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they have the ordonez hr to win the 06 alcs on half the commericals.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 3, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
err....thats on mlbn
so i’m likely wrong. whoops.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 3, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I read this as porno
And I was confused
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 3, 2011 7:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"Who knew Chris Carpenter would be playing the Roy Halladay to Cliff Lee's Kyle Lohse today?"
Let’s just lock it down from here out, and do to them what they did to us yesterday.
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by a fink on Oct 2, 2011 8:00 PM CDT reply actions
Well, at least I called for it.
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by a fink on Oct 3, 2011 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think tonight
WE ALL WON.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Carp says he felt great physically. He thinks he wasn't where he needed to be mentally.
Not blaming it on short rest.
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that's hard to believe
but if he says so
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
He looked good for the most part
A lot of close counts and pitches.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Phillies looked really disciplined against Carp
it seemed like they didn’t swing at a single pitch out of the zone.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
In all honesty he really didn't throw a lot of pitches in the zone...
whosoevers Idea it was for him not to throw from a mound in between starts is too blame.
If you like baseball...you'll love my ROKU !!!
this was his side session
which he doesn’t do anymore
and this is what it is
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Looked like he was just barely outside the strike zone quite often
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 3, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it seemed like his complaining wasn't justified
Although, he was just barely missing, and he was probably expecting to get a lot more calls.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 3, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
his mental state was "Jerry, I'm Chris F. Carpenter. Remember?"
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
eh...
…he looked like a guy who didn’t get his between starts workout in.
That throwing session you really want to be addressing pitches/locations you are going to use in the up coming start. It took him a couple inning to sharpen up. But I though if we would have left him in he could have gone into cruise mode.
That said he is ready for Game 1 against Milwaukee.
I heard it mentioned during the broadcast that Carp
hasn’t done any side sessions at least since the all-star break.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 3, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
MOTH.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 3, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is Orkin on call for Tuesday?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
somebody check my math here
I think these are the matchups for the rest of the series….
Tuesday—Garcia vs. Hamels
Wednesday—Jackson vs. Halladay?
Game 5 (if necessary)* would be Carp vs. Lee again, I think
- disclaimer for warding off GOB purposes
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
oswalt?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Could be
but Halladay would be on 3 days rest
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
oh shit, you're right
so it’d be
Garcia vs Hamels
Jackson vs Oswalt
and then game 5 would be Carp vs Halladay.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Carp will be well rested ....maybe that was the plan...
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I like the odds there
CCDGAF doesn’t have many bad back-to-back starts
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 3, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I think a lot rides on how game 3 plays out
they may or may not go with Halladay in game 4
I can see the wisdom of trying to use both Halladay and Lee twice in a best of 5… who couldn’t
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 3, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think they'd risk it
I can’t count to 5, is why I thought Halladay would be on reg. rest for Wed. He’d surely pitch game 5. It’s not like Hamels & Oswalt suck or anything….if the Phillies win in 4, they’d have Halladay/Lee lined up for the NLCS. If it goes to 5 games, then Halladay pitches game 5 and Lee is lined up to open the NLCS.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Right.
If Oswalt is your 4th best starter, the other three clearly do not suck.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
sounds reasonable
Oswalt scares me not at all
having said that…
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 3, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
true dat
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 3, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
at least our hitters have seen him a million times
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
and we have a puma on our side
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 3, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
They'll throw Oswalt against Jackson
And bring Halladay back on full rest for Game 5.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I found a bunch of crusty green stuff stuck to the bottom of a jar...I smoked it...
by Red Blazer on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
poor salas
Referred to as sally by chris carpenter
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 3, 2011 12:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think Salas deserves to call Carp "Sally", after tonight
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
by SleepyCA on Oct 3, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hope my streak continues.
My gf and I are 7-0 on the year for all StL professional sports. 5-0 for the Cardinals. We have tickets to both games.
It is what it is.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 3, 2011 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
When SecondHalfMatt was going to games we were winning. I know that.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 3, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It is what it is.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Night all. This game was amazing
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
Leaving this here, scroll up from it to make your own theory.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Or start here and work down. Your choice.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
I only strive to be that thorough, sometimes.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
one of the all-time most useful posts
is you annotating the eel bombing saga.
Excellent work.
Still not a werewolf.
Heh.
That was one really, really slow morning at work.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
ricky horton just said that the rally towel doubles as a crying towel
lol
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 3, 2011 1:05 AM EDT reply actions
stealing our f'n towels!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
christ eric byrnes is an idiot
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 3, 2011 1:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Quit the Mariners to play softball.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
probably couldnt put up with boog anymore
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 3, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Fun fact:
Outfield of Ichiro, Byrnes, and Milton Bradley.
This would have been a sitcom if NBC created it.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
if they could find a way to get zambrano...
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 3, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't he in Seattle a while back?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no, NBC makes shit like Whitney
that would have been on FOX & they would have cancelled it after 6 episodes & then teased then fans for 50 years about bringing it back or making a movie
Balls
What's funny,
is that she’s producing a show on CBS (2 Broke Girls) that’s a lot better then her namesake show in NBC. She could easily play the Kat Dennings role on that show, so it appears that she hitched her name to the wrong horse, simply because they put her name on the title of the show.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i thought her show might be funny bc she's so funny, it's sooo not though
and 2Broke Girls isn’t that funny either. but it has more promise than Whitney
Balls
i thought they called that laverne and shirley
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
same here. 2 girls was funnier tonight also
it’s like big bang, you just got to turn your brain off & not think about.
Balls
He's lobbying for robot umps.
Can’t be all bad.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Verlander threw 251 innings this year.
HFS
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and carp threw 237 at age 36
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 3, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Give Chris Carpenter some fucking run support at all this year
and he probably throws about that amount as well.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Carp already threw the most in the NL
What more do you want? I think it’s probably more PHing and the DH. The top four or five SPs in IP are AL guys because they just go until they’re tired or in trouble — no need to worry about PHing for them.
holy mother of cats
I absolutely blew off one of my midterms because it fell at a very unfortunate time last week. I walked into the exam cold, not knowing the material at all.
I managed to teach myself the concepts during the exam, even proving it by the end.
I just checked my grades, and I got a perfect score.
I like to think this was a kind gesture by the Cardinals for believing in them all season long.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 3, 2011 1:14 AM EDT reply actions 13 recs
Whoa. Dude.
That’s fantastic.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 3, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to hang it on the fridge.
Put some stickers on it, too.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 3, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
You know what's funny?
You’ll have to do this all the time in the real world, so this is probably the best possible experience for you to have as a student.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
yep
One of my Java profs. in college flat-out told us he wasn’t teaching us a programming language. It was our own damn responsibility to learn the language; he’d just help with programming concepts and such.
Those of us that didn’t drop the class learned a lot that semester..
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Miklasz Tweet
miklasz Bernie Miklasz
Lance Berkman on the Cardinals: “We’re like a good plowhorse. We just keep plugging away.”
OK, that one just sounds made up. How many folksy quotes is Berk gonna hit us with via Cardinals writers?
by Cardinals645 on Oct 3, 2011 1:27 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
All of them. All of them.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Oct 3, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's from Texas
It’s quite possible they still use plow-horses to farm in Texas….
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
If this is a euphemism, I don't wanna know.
@miklasz Bernie Miklasz
Sitting at Citizens Bank Park press box, watching @JoeStrauss get his balloon party underway.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 3, 2011 1:42 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
balloon party >> unicorns
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
I'm catching up with old threads and this little nugget made me laugh.
Regardless, we’re going to have to win Game 2 against the bullpen — I give our club no chance of touching up Cliff Lee. We hit lefties horribly and he’s the best lefty in the playoffs (apologies to CC Sabathia).
Pretty funny looking back. Link
I'm not a prophet, lol
However, I think my point about our bullpen lefties against their left handed hitters has proven true so far this series: Rzep couldn’t get anyone out in Game 1 and it cost us a chance to win it. Rzep and Rhodes both pitched well last night and it led to a Cardinal win.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
kudos to the bullpen, seriously
i said all day that last night’s bullpen wasn’t the real stl bullpen, and that we can be lights out when needed. i’m glad the gobs didn’t smite me
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
shame we didn't use the real STL bullpen last night.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
just before craig got the triple,
i totally yelled out “DO IT FOR TORTY!” so it works
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Well don't stop now. You've obligated yourself to be the Tort-leader.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
i was so fired up
i wanted to show my boyfriend the endy chavez catch and the carlos beltran K
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
instead, he went to bed
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Well, she IS a lawyer
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 3, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you don't go to Petsmart right now and buy a pet turtle TLR will start Arthur Rhodes at 1B on a gritty hunch.
Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.
I'm so happy right now...
Even still at 2:00am… I love this feeling.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
by pattimagee on Oct 3, 2011 3:15 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Didn't know this
From Stark:
Until Sunday night, that man, Clifton Phifer Lee, was an insane 94-1 in his career when his team gave him a four-run lead (or more) in either the regular season (87-1) or postseason (7-0).
Also, Phifer?
by DisplacedCardsFan on Oct 3, 2011 3:18 AM EDT reply actions
So, I've lost faith in non-VEB blogs.
The Good Phight is putting that loss on umpires. (Groan)… Also we didn’t “deserve” (whatever the fuck that means) to win that game even though the score at the end had us with more runs than them.
I mean… obviously I’m biased, but that umpiring was not catastrophically one-sided. Or game-changing awful. And we got shafted too. Also, watching the game – again biased – I thought we actually played better not that we got lucky and “got away with one.”
Thoughts?
well
the strike zone was unpredictable for both sides….the Phillies certainly have some legit complaints about it, but both sides had to deal with how erratic the strike zone was. I’m not sure if Tony bitching about it had any real impact, but people are going to be talking about his in-game comments tomorrow rather than the fact that Carpenter wasn’t very good, which is probably why Tony does stuff like that. I thought the rest of the umpiring was fine; for example, Descalso had a checked swing call that I was sure was blown when I saw it live, but the replay confirmed the call.
I agree that the Cards overall outplayed the Phils. If you want to think about it in terms of luck, the Cards really should have won yesterday and lost today, so I guess it kind of evened out. Both teams have now blown 3 run 1st inning leads, which should make the rest of the series even crazier. But the Phillies bats were totally put to sleep by the bullpen. Seriously, 6 innings of bullpen and all they could manage is 1 single and 1 HBP? That’s the story of the game right there.
Both teams were playing hardass in this game, too: Jay hitting Chooch, Utley taking out Theriot. Scrabble was pitching inside to Utley in the 8th, so Utley leaned into one (pretty blatant if you ask me, but that’s never called). Phillies fans can bitch about BABIP, but the Cards were hitting the ball hard; 2 triples and 3 doubles. Craig’s triple was off Victorino’s glove; I didn’t see where Vic was playing Craig before the pitch, but obviously it must have been just a little too shallow.
P.S. IMHO the Rollins pickoff was worse than any of the 3 baserunners the Cards lost. I think that was a straight steal and not a hit & run. He committed before the pitch was thrown.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Agreed on the Rollins steal
He was going on first movement. Scrabble has a very effective move to first though — he disguises his throw home until the very last possible second before delivering, which allows him to pick off runners who are going on first movement. That’s the second guy he’s picked off in as many weeks.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
running on a lefty + Molina seems like a terrible idea in the first place
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Yeah, that was really bad.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 3, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
"The Good Phight is putting that loss on umpires"
Where was this said?
And where was it said, as you quote, that the Cardinals didn’t “deserve” to win?
http://www.thegoodphight.com
I'm assuming stlcardsfan4 meant the comments as opposed to (or in addition to) the main posts,
and given that assumption it took me about 30 seconds to find this and this (which was greened by the commenters) regarding the first claim. I don’t know about “deserve,” but there clearly are folks at The Good Phight blaming the umps for the loss, and that point of view isn’t exactly being shouted down. (By the way, I realize the poster in the second link says the strike zone “most likely” wouldn’t have affected the outcome, but then he/she goes on to explain how the Phillies were hurt by the strike zone; so he/she is clearly putting the loss, at least to some degree, on the umps – and again, his/her comment went green.)
That said, of all the sketchy calls the worst one was clearly the K on Utley from what I saw. But there were plenty of others, many of which burned the Cards.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 3, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't we have like 13 hits to their 6?
and 5 runs to their 4?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 3, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He plays for the Phillies now.
I still like him but obviously now I want him to lose when playing my other teams.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Just admit
that once you found out that his middle name was Phifer, the gloss came off the idol just a little bit, didn’t it?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Last night was a beautiful expect the unexpected moment
It was so awesome
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 3, 2011 7:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
previously on VEB
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/10/2/2465237/cardinals-vs-phillies-game-2-overflow-2
as a bonus, jump to
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/10/3/2463874/cardinals-vs-phillies-nlds-game-3-duel-of-the-southpaws
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
previously on VEB
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/10/2/2465237/cardinals-vs-phillies-game-2-overflow-2
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

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