greatest season ever
well, that was a fantastic ride. after 2006, i suppose i should be used to world series runs that run against all conventional wisdom.
it's hard to think back to the early dominance of the cardinals in april, followed closely by the abject collapse of the team. i don't have to remind you - since every other article about the season recalls it - the run of the cardinals back from a 10.5 game deficit.
the epic run to the postseason, closing on the last day was nothing but a prelude to an exciting 5 game series with the phillies, a challenging 6-game nlcs against milwaukee, and finally one of the most exciting world series in recent memory.
along the way, we saw a historic single game offensive performance by albert pujols, repeated and unexpected clutch offensive performances from david freese (who - and you will never believe what i have just discovered - is actually from st. louis!), a remarkable endurancefest from chris carpenter, and a nearly perfect postseason from the stalwart members of the bullpen - including jason motte, fernando salas, and lance lynn.
posting two world series victories and three ws appearances in eight seasons (the albert pujols era) is an outstanding showing for any team.
and one can't mention albert without noting that today is day one (of five) of the exclusive negotiating period.
i will try to have some further thoughts later in the day.
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The Cardinals are the Champions of the World!
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
by vico on Oct 29, 2011 8:05 AM EDT reply actions 15 recs
OF THE MOTHERFUCKIN' WORLD!
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
YOU THINK WE WON'T WIN THE WORLD SERIES??!!!!!!!!!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 29, 2011 8:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 8 recs
Of the World!
What are British Fans are reading today:
Comeback kings Cardinals savour World Series triumph against the RangersDailymail link
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 29, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
My sister texted me last night saying she and her friend were listening to or watching BBC coverage of the game, somehow
Apparently Albert Pujols was described as “menacing”.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Yes, a most menacing and brutish fellow...
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 29, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
As a British cardinals fan
I get most of my info from here. Great team, great site, great fans.
by NoWayMan! on Oct 29, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Meant more to say the World is watching the World Series of the Ages
And I love it here as well
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 29, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
AND FUCK THOSE WHO SAY IT SHOULDN'T BE CALLED THE WORLD SERIES
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes because we played it for the WORLD's shock and awe!
Of the STL CARDINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 29, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't really understand that these days.
Sure, the teams are from the US, but the players are from all over the world.
It’s not MLB’s fault that Brits suck at baseball and Dominicans are good.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
well it might be more that the Brits suck at not having rain-outs
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
canada is in it
that makes it international, hence world
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 29, 2011 8:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
canada is in it
that makes it international, hence world
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 29, 2011 8:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In 1985 (I think it was) I went to a Cards game
against the Astros. Ryan didn’t pitch that day, but as I sat in the first base side terrace loge seats in right field, I watched Ryan go from left-to-right along the outfield wall during BP, grabbing a ball from the bucket (a ball boy was following him), sign it, and toss it into the stands.
I didn’t get one, but…
the Rangers have a class owner.
Nolan Ryan was not only a great player, but he is EXACTLY the sort of guy MLB should be promoting to ownership.
Yes, Ryan made a jackass move predicting his team to win in 6 games, and as a player, he should have known better, but…
the Rangers are lucky. Seriously, they have money, talent, and Nolan freaking Ryan is their owner.
They could do much, much worse.
Ryan is a class act is ever there was one.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup
The Rangers have made it to two consecutive World Series and they are in a pretty good place now. I wouldn’t say they are all that old either. I, for one, thought Beltre was about three years older than he actually is.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
plus him beating the shit out of ventura is one of the best baseball "lowlights" of the last 30 years
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by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Beltran...
…been around forever. If I remember right he broke into the league at 19.
by BigJawnMize on Oct 29, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Beltre is a bad ********
He would catch anything near him
and power to boot
by jealousblues on Oct 29, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
For all of this.
He was one strike from being spot on in his prediction (twice).
Love the guy.
So glad his team lost.
Proud to be a member of The Night of the Longest Train Wreck Ever (9/10/09)
I like the Rangers.
I’ve always like Nolan Ryan, I have no problem with his prediction. I like Ian Kinsler, he’s an Mizzou grad, and he is just so damn good at 2B. I like Michael Young, I like Andrus, I like Beltre. I’m really glad they didn’t beat us, or else I wouldn’t have a choice but to dislike them. If the Cardinals were designed like the Rangers, I would be very happy. Of course, if the Cardinals were designed like the Rangers, we wouldn’t be WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!!!!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I had no problem with Ryan's prediction either.
What was he supposed to say, “Cardinals in 5”"? He was showing confidence in his own team. I have no problem with that. I like the Rangers, too. Can’t point to one player on that team that I don’t like. Love Wash, even if he’s not the genius TLR is.
He was supposed to say NOTHING. Like Mo, Tony, and DeWitt did.
Not a big deal, but definitely going to mock quote it.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I know Randy Galloway put him on the spot,
but you’re right. He should have just predicted a great series. It’s not a big deal, but he’ll probably have to learn to be more diplomatic in his position.
Amazing world series
Would love to see a cards rangers world series repeat next year!
"And that youngster will leave the stadium with a souvenir today. Not a ball, but a nice looking bruise."- Mike Shannon
by wizard11 on Oct 29, 2011 1:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wish I couild find it
but only like 4 of 30 or so people who picked on ESPN had the Cardinals winning in any way shape or form. From then I knew we were going to win this series.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Riding back to the east side on the metro last night
The entire train was singing ‘We are the Champions’ over and over.
T’was epic.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Greatest run ever?
Just to throw it out there, but given the fact that the Cards, as we know, Came From 10.5 Games Back to make the postseason and win the whole shebang, is this the greatest run of any team, in any U.S. sport, ever? Not just catching and passing the Braves, but then beating the alleged best team in baseball in the LDS, then beating the favored Nyjer Morgans, then beating the favored Texas Long Ballers.
NC State’s 1983 NCAA basketball title comes to mind. Nobody saw that coming.
The ‘78 Yankees, coming from 14 back to pass the BoSox, beat the Royals in the LCS and then the Dodgers in the WS? Meh. The Yanks were defending champs, anyway.
The 2004 BoSox? I don’t think so.
Thoughts anyone?
scrappy, scrappy, scrappy ball club
by brockflood on Oct 29, 2011 8:13 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I wasn't alive to see the '64 crew beat the Yanks
but that would have been something.
The Yanks were coming of a couple of decades of dominance, and the Cards had to fight their way into the playoffs.
THIS IS OUR ’64!!!!!
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe it
plus it was the rise of Bob Gibson, yes?
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by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't doubt it
but the way the league and playoffs are setup now, I think this is about as close as a team could come to that kind of run.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
64 was great
I remember it. Just getting to the World Series like this year seemed to be enough. But this was better.
Older than any three of you.
by Remember Kenny B on Oct 29, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we needed something to make up for 2004 and 2005.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
2006 made up for that
in my mind, this was payback for ’85.
At 11 years old I watched the Birds lose an agonizing game 6 and a horrifying game 7.
This one is the most direct correlation of ’85. I waited 26 years for this!
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry Rangers, but it had to be you
then again, when I was a kid, in the mid ’80’s, the Rangers were perpetually bad. So all of this somehow makes sense.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
this made up for 2009 for me.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
2009 didn't need a make up
that team got as far as they could.
That ’85 squad… damn… the were the best team that year.
After “go crazy folks, go crazy”… to lose in the WS with Vince Coleman getting run over with the tarp…
I’m not intentionally trying to pull the “age card” on you, but seriously, if you witnessed the greatness of the ’85 Whitey Ball team…
It wasn’t just a great Cardinals team, it was a team that was something special to watch… it was a team that was unlike…
maybe it’s just my childhood talking…
anyway… 2011… WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
2009 had a shot at the pennant, imo.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
ya, a nutshot.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 29, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
damn dong-gloves
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
word.
my family talks about the 1985 team with such reverence. I was just young enough not to remember, although I do remember bits of ’87. I grew up loving Whitey Ball and the style of play of those Cardinals teams.
Side note: why did the ‘85 Royals have home field that year? My hungover mind can’t think of the reason.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
AL and NL simply traded WS home field each year.
AL had odd numbered years then. That’s why the Twins had home field in 87 too.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
that's what i figured.
thanks!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I was 10...
…for the 85 team. This is the team that is the worshiped around my folks house.
The 87 team stealing it from the Mets at the end of the season was on of the sweetest things ever. Pendleton!!!
by BigJawnMize on Oct 29, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I lived and died with Jack and Mike in '85
what a tandem (you could almost hear Jack’s irritation with Mike’s lack of prep for a few years until he got used to him).
It is strange, but even today, I like to hear Mike’s voice because I subconsciously think Jack’s is next.
It hurts me soul that Joe prefers football. I don’t blame him, and he can’t help how he feels, but damn..
JACK AND MIKE IS THE SUMMER SOUNDTRACK OF MY LIFE!
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Same here
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 29, 2011 5:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think Joe necessarily prefers football, but
I just don’t think he wants the life of a daily broadcaster for a baseball team where he’s basically traveling with the team for six straight months.
If you can get that job, it is pretty hard to say no I'd wager
I think about it this way: Joe Buck has been able to call the World Series and the Superbowl in his career. That’s pretty amazing and I don’t really fault him for doing football.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I mean, aren't those pretty much the two biggest sporting events in America?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
More or less.
Olympics, depending on how you classify it. March Madness and College football. Still, as far as championship games go, WS and SB are pretty much it.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I had that gig
I’d have to study up on football a bit… not baseball though. The internet has taught me so much.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
REMEMBER THE DEKINGER!!!!
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
My buddy kept texting me about how the umps gave us this series
I told him it made up for 85 and that shut him up quickly…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
there were bad calls that went against the cardinals
yeah, Holliday was out at first. But we scored 16 runs in that game.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Wasn't he safe at third though? Thought I heard someone say that.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
1000 cameras in the stadium
and not one angle showed me he was definitively out or safe. So I’d go with the Umps call, looked more out than safe to me.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Fair enough.
Were there not other situations though where the call should have gone to us but didn’t? Not that we got hosed overall, but certainly it was a mixed bag, no?
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols was safe at home against the brewers
the umps were calling strikes for Holland that they weren’t giving to Garcia in game 2
Grit != flat out sucking.
we still lament, Ryan Ludwick!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This series made me miss Ryan Ludwick.
Because David Murphy looked like his evil, well-shaved brother.
WWCD? CDGAF.
or cameron from ferris bueller's day off
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 30, 2011 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought there was one angle that showed him being pretty definitively out
Left hand got to the bag first, tag was on his back before it did.
I felt like it was more of a make-up for '87.
Cards got to play game 7 on their home field instead of 4 games in that miserable Metrodome.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
to this day, my mom is convinced that the Twins cheated.
she completely believes the conspiracy about the vents.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
yeah, the vents...
but I always felt that “argument” was sour grapes. no, the twinkies beat us.
That is not the feeling I have from the ’85 series… that shit was ours!!!!
This 2011 win is recompense for that one.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate Kent Hrbek.
That is all.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I have no words to explain
Tommy Herr getting traded to the Twins for Brunansky (whatever his fucking name was).
Tommy Herr to the Twins…
ok, lets focus on the WS we just won, because I’m getting pissed off over here.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Here this may help.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 29, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
yeah, that helps
good work
I’ll give you 5 points for that on the midterm!
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by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Can someone with skills stitch this together with Edmonds' 2004 walkoff?
Please? Pretty please? Pretty please with sugar on top?
someone needs to get that screencap of him and Edmonds from Fox
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cardinals broke some hearts the last few weeks
I never really spend much (any) time checking out other SBN sites, but I felt compelled to do so over the course of the post-season.
The Phillies, Crew, Rangers… according to the SBN sites, and without exception, the consensus seems to be that the Cards beat the best teams those respective franchises have ever had.
I’m not trying to build up the underdog “us vs them” angle, but maybe by looking at it in a certain way, we can see why some NL teams hate El Birdos. I take all the TLR hating and the Cards are whiners stuff as, well… it is typical my-guys-are-better-than-your-chumps sort of fan stuff.
The Cards aren’t the Yankees. Besides the fact that the Cards haven’t even won half the championships that the Yanks have, our team does seem to have an ability to win over their heads. The Cards aren’t the highest payroll in baseball, or the NL, or even the NL central, but things do come together for our club at a disproportionately high rate.
The Cards faced three teams who were coming off regular season success that their fan base has never witnessed before, and beat them. It’s the best the Phils, Crew, and Rangers have ever put out there.
Is this the best Cards team ever? I don’t need to think about it or do research. No, it isn’t.
But we won anyway (WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!)
If I was a Brewers, Reds, Cubs fan… I’d hate us too.
WHAT A GREAT COUPLE OF MONTHS OF BASEBALL!!! I fully expect the Cards to win at least another while I last, but this is one run I will remember above them all.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 8:29 AM EDT reply actions 27 recs
So Rec'd.
It started for me with my Trip to St.L on 9-11…I didn’t think we had a chance in hell, but just for the love of the Cards. I had a great time and met some great new Cardinals friends and when we left, we were only 3.5 out…it’s been amazing since then….every time that I thought we were out, they proved me wrong.
What a Game 6, and then to close it out with a win in Game 7…just an incredible ride.
I have tons of favorite Cardinals teams, but this one may be my favorite.
Thanks for making it memorable boys!
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 WORLD CHAMPIONS!
by RollBirdsRoll on Oct 29, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
The Cards aren’t the Yankees - 7 of 9 farm system products on the field at the end of the game.
Motte, Yadi, Albert, Descalso, Craig, Jay, Skip all were out in the field.
Freese – MVP and Yadi and Craig could have been.
We build them, don’t buy them !!
by D4 on Oct 29, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's what i'm saying
seriously, the Cards literally invented the farm system, more specifically Branch Rickey.
Branch Rickey… the greatest mind, businessman, and humanitarian in baseball history.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
yer drunk on hyperbole, yo.
pioneering, certainly.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
drunk... yes
are my thoughts on Rickey hyperbole? I’ll take that argument.
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by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, yes, yes.
I know it’s goofy to say these things the day after a win, but I feel like this one will stick in my head more than any other Cardinals season in my life. I grew up with the Cards — one of the oldest memories I have is being 6 or 7 and going to games with my Grandpa. When the year started, I wasn’t too thrilled with the way this team was built (still missing the days of Whitey Ball) and had my share of Waino Depression Syndrome. But over the course of the year, I grew to love this team — just a bunch of really, really likable guys. Even when it seemed like the postseason was an impossibility, they were just fun to watch and support. I think that’s why this WS is such an “icing on the cake” moment for so many fans — Cardinals fans found something to be happy with this year, win or lose. And then they just… kept… winning.
WWCD? CDGAF.
Harvey's Wallbangers
The best Brewer squad was probably Harvey’s Wallbangers back in ’82— not this one. Of course the Cards beat them then too, though in retrospect they were probably the better team.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
I fully understand why the rest of the world is sick of hearing that the Cards
came from 10.5 games back in the wild-card race Aug. 25. But they did. It is what it is.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
We know this.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Thank You Baseball
Sewing together the seasons
Keeping time with our days
Binding our hopes
Forgiving our doubts
Granting splendid perfection
Other mysteries remain. TL
by BKKCard on Oct 29, 2011 8:34 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
going to go find a post-dispatch
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't know, i'm kind of freaking out a little
i’m going to call ahead first.
damn it, why’d you have to up and close, Borders.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
they should have known that we would have won the world series and you would need a copy of the post.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
those effers
weird, the walgreens said they aren’t even in yet.
whew. ok… I might go round to a strip mall and pick up an extra anyway.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The walgreen near me hasn't even opened yet.
so I’m going to wait. I’m pretty sure my folks get one delivered to their house. So worst case scenario, I steal theirs.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
best hangover ever.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 29, 2011 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
time differences
I live in China so I am only getting started after watching El Birdos win this morning!
I almost forgot…
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
i have to say, Albert and AJ(?) looked funereal during the main presser
then he brightened right up talking to Chris Berman.
I think the mang might actually like Berman.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"like" like?
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
he is on record as saying the moniker "Winne the Pujols" is fine
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we need to wake up the brit to clear this up for us
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
an interesting project is to see how many VEBers have offered to have babies
just in the last 48 hours
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
In scroling thru the gameposts...
el birdos have options to sire heirs for the next several generations
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by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
there was also a lot of love
like Carp loves Lance Berkman.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so, the Cards make a lot of money on the back-end, on merch
soooooo
the more you buy
the more you pie
I think the trick is to get all those new converts to baseball and explain to them they really need a cap and a t-shirt. and a squirrel.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 8:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm really not thrilled with the official hat and hoody...
gray is prettly bleh
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
I like the t-shirt the guys were wearing
after the game. I’m definitely gonna get one…there is a caricature t-shirt of the main guys too…I think I need that. I really want the video just in time for Christmas. MLB.com is gonna get a big order from me soon.
The NL champs shirt is awesome.
My girlfriend’s came in mail yesterday, and mine should be arriving shortly. They look even better in person.
Is there an official squirrel plushie? Link?
I want one!
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
BRAIIIIIINS
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 29, 2011 8:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
BRAIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
i saw the original of this on a sign in some of the shots
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
baseball will save StL
let us not forget, and the extra special greatness of this win, the city of StL is now NOT going to have to make cuts they were planning on a few weeks ago.
OWS (Occupy World Series)!!!!!!!
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
like all the sign painters and metalworkers who'll have to update the stadium to make room for
OUR BRAND NEW CHAMPIONSHIP
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
wrong thread
…………….wait.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
y'know, as long as the NL can keep putting their foot on their necks at the ASG
I think a lot of AL managers just don’t understand how to play, uh, BASEBALL. the genuine article, jerks!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I truly feel like the NL is catching up or has just about caught up to the AL talent-wise
I don’t know if the numbers would bear that out yet, but at least we’ve won a couple ASGs and World Series in a row. I like this trend.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
it helps that all those big sluggers in the AL are getting old.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Also, I assume the depressed offense has a chicken-and-egg kind of relationship going on with all this.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
we should give them hugs
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
my regret is that SBN or Firefox or something wouldn't let me open the Twitter tab
I would’ve loved a real-time scroll
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yadier Molina has set a smackload of records, which makes me happy
counting stats fuck YEAH
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he leads the world in yadier molinas
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
is that a regular season or post season record?
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 29, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
World and Olympic
you’re thinking in the wrong terms.
I’m fairly certain that Yadi wins the shot-put, javelin, and perhaps discus in 2012 if he wants it.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
he also convinced them to let Carp go back out.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
nevermind throwing arm
Yadi will Socrates a guy into a corner.
He didn’t pick off Kinsler… he reasoned him off the bases.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Yadi has won numerous trophies for his game face alone
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 29, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
It was the throw-cratic method
Yadier forced Kinsler to question his own assumptions about his baserunning skills.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 29, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
but can there be reason, sir, at the end of the gun!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
...can love really bloom on the battlefield?
NO idea why that was the first thing that popped into my head…
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
we are young
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
RBIs by a tandem in a world series game. RBIs in a world series (team record), 8th overall.
i think a couple more
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes..
…we will have to draft the offspring of all these guys. The children should be worth 1 ring each with just the name.
by BigJawnMize on Oct 29, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
more woodland creatures
@AdrianCoyote Adrian Taylor
@MatthewHLeach @dgoold If Cards win, they’ll be 2-0 in World Series in years a Happy Feet movie comes out. #needmoresequels
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Hello BGH, it's me, Judy
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I went back and rec'd that
you know, for posterity.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
I like Joe Posnanski's
“rejected” post-game article from this game much better than mine.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
best part of posnanski one:
See that third baseman over there, David Freese, the 28-year-old local kid who doesn’t even play every day. Watch that kid. He’s going to start hitting. And then he’s going to keep hitting. And before it’s all done, they will intentionally walk him in Game 7 of the World Series rather than face him.
fuck yeah they will
by Pegasus on Oct 29, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Heh
Oh yeah, it’s true. The Red Sox are going to collapse too. Terry Francona will leave under fire. Theo Epstein will go run the Cubs. This will happen. Too much beer and fried chicken up there.
You’ll get that joke in about six weeks.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I think that's the joke.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
oh, that makes so much more sense now
I thought bgh was time travelling. what.
by hr on Oct 29, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm confused.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
coolstandings updates the picture every night without changing the url
so in august, the picture bgh posted was when the line was near the bottom.
by hr on Oct 29, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I see now.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
anyone catch berkman was the first to hug tlr
that made me tear up.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 29, 2011 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rangers-in-6 Nolan Ryan did not talk to the press.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I wonder what kind of article Passan will write
by jealousblues on Oct 29, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll mention Pujols in the opening and his pending free agency
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
ha i forgot about this
game 6 prediction fit so perfectly for how it played out!
terrible imo to publicly mention your team will win in 6
by guillermozeliak on Oct 30, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I have hangover all over my head and championship all over my internets
I love it. I have to work in 10 minutes which sucks, but I love it
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 29, 2011 9:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
HAPPY WORK!
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 29, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't even drink
and I still woke up with a hangover.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Oct 29, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
woke up early and got my STL P-D
now back to bed
Ughhhh, I is soooo sick....
….but deliriously happy! No cold can defeat World Championship Cardinal baseball!
I think I’m gonna stuff myself with waffles, go back to beg, and hug my cardinals jersey as I drift off to happy, heavily medicated sleep…
;=8)
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Feel better, Moo Cow. We won the fucking World Series!!!!!!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 29, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
for some reason, this one feels more fulfilling than 06
maybe it’s what the cardinals had to do to get here, being 10 1/2 back and all. maybe it’s because of the rough patches the team endured (waino going down, franklin/batista, etc.). maybe it’s because everyone thought they were out, and no one – even most VEBers – gave them a chance before their rally. whatever it is, all of this FEELS SO RIGHT.
THEY DID IT FOR TORTY! 2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
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I feel the same way
2006 wasn’t as fulfilling as 2004 was supposed to be. And this team, after stumbling for four months of baseball only to put it together in the last two and beating the odds ever single time….I mean after game 6 I can only say “Wow! What a Ride”
this
the word “fulfilling” is exactly the one I have been using
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
the tigers lost
but we kind of beat the rangers, and crew and phillistines
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
as soon as we ... well, we didn't quit hitting ourselves in the face
but as soon as that died down, the juggernaut was really primed to make a run
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
so anyone else think josh hamilton is kind of douchey?
great player and all but still…
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
Hamilton:
He said, you haven’t hit one in a while and this is the time you’re going to. But there was a period at the end of that. He didn’t say, you’re going to hit it and you’re going to win.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
admitting that God called his shot is kind of ... unusual.
I mean, I understand if he believes it, that was just odd to say that to the press.
compare/contrast Lance Berkman.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I was gonna say compare/contrast with Pujols on his decision-making for the upcoming contract
Not sure what other kind of sign he’s looking for.
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 29, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
referring
Berk said “It’s not like I pray for hits or anything”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
In a completely disarming, folksy manner.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
oh it was so very disarming
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Hamilton and Pujols
I always wondered if, when Hamilton was standing on 1b, if he and Pujols got along or whether they tried to out-Jesus each other.
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
Un-be-freaking-lievable!!!
Flags Fly Forever!
p.s. I wonder if Grienke still thinks Carpenter is “phony”?
Zack Greinke? I bet it's more like Zack "Cranky" today!
am i right?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
nah, Zach's fine.
his wife, on the other hand… still waiting for those seats
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
i think the cards should have made amends
by offering her the best seats in the house for the World Series
right behind home plate
by jealousblues on Oct 29, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
best definition of gritiness ever
Joe Posnanski has a great article on game 6 up at SI. Here’s his description of Freese and gritiness:
“He has been electrifying this postseason. It isn’t just that he has hit .393 with power for the postseason, but there has just seemed something sturdy about him, something that appeals to the many, many Cardinals fans I know. It is the something almost inexpressible that Ken Boyer had, that Terry Pendleton had, that, yes, David Eckstein had, something that has to do with visible effort. They may not really be trying any harder than anyone else. But damn it, they LOOK like they are.” [emphasis added]
I thought that was great.
here's an odd coincidence...
MLB The Show ran a World Series sim, and just like Nolan Ryan, the sim predicted the Rangers in 6.
THEY DID IT FOR TORTY! 2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
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Man, downtown St. Louis got trashed last night
clean up clean up, everybody clean up
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
I need some VEB help.
Could someone who is savvier than me at searching game threads go back to find the link to the sports betting messageboard where the guy bet on the Cardinals to win the WS and stood to make 40 grand?
I want to read reaction if there is any and if he got his money yet.
Thanks.
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
i have utterly forgotten my search terms for that
clank might be able to help when he rolls in, even though he is not my search monkey.
here’s the other bet — http://deadspin.com/5851837/
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I was in the other thread linking torty, oddly
there were two
one who bet $100,000 on the world series
and one who bet the Cardinals would make it to the series, which Y2S linked
Still not a werewolf.
how're you holding up
any other “labs”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I got a few hours of sleep so all's well
now I’ve got to go hang out with people and accept free fun, food, and drink. laaaaaame.
Still not a werewolf.
your life is so hard!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I want to watch clips of the Series again!
Maybe even watch whole innings! Maybe watch the 6th game!
But instead I’m going to Six Flags.
I did put back on my shirt from yesterday. ’Cause you know, we won the WS when I was wearing it. Feels good.
Still not a werewolf.
apropos of nothing, i thought you might be sympathetic
someone took my bag of soybeans. i was going to cook them up. but somehow, relatives decided i’m not actually eating any beans, and confiscated them. all.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
sympathy granted.
Mention that they have shamed you. Whenever I’m around family, I tend to write my name all over everything I want/like. I think this actually encourages bad behavior, in hindsight. Hmm.
Still not a werewolf.
yeah, you seem to have too many siblings for that not to backfire.
hypothetically.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
what is the Six Flags over there called ?
(hell, I can barely remember what ours is called, I think they changed the name)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Was Fiesta Texas always a Six Flags park?
I feel like it was not in the earliest days of my visits with family down there. I could be wrong, maybe they just added “Six Flags” more prominently to the name after a while.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Ah, coolness
I guess I could have Wikipedia’d it… but thank you for tolerating my internet laziness (VEB does that a lot)
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
that would be the word, yes.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I really need to get myself to KC one of these days, and polish off Worlds of Fun.
it’s been aaaaggges since I’ve hit an amusement park.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
What seems strange to me
As a recent San Antonio resident is that there is an expensive outdoor mall right next to it and as you’re walking to/from your car you can hear people screaming as they start to go down the roller coasters.
I always imagine Six Flags way out in the middle of nowhere (like the St. Louis, Chicago Six Flags and Cedar Point) but this one is now right by stuff due to the continued expansion of San Antonio.
by dontEATnachos on Oct 29, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember Fiesta Texas being in the middle of nowhere too
My grandfather’s house was one of the earliest built in Fair Oaks Ranch (if it’s even called that anymore) and I have noticed that his area and the area around Fiesta Texas have become more and more built up over the years.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
i've seen footage of this house in Austin next to a rollercoaster. like, right under it.
but then that might just be Austin
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Houston, probably.
Or Kemah technically. At Tillmanland (Kemah Boardwalk).
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
you're probably right
i’m still at the no-heavy-machinery phase
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's still just Six Flags St. Louis
But I still think of it as Six Flags Over Mid-America. Kind of like how I still say “Showbiz Pizza” half the time instead of Chuck E. Cheese’s.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Showbiz Pizza, aaaahhh!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
it's Kiel, dammit, Kiel!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Heh, seriously
It’s actually ScottTrade still, right? Kiel, Savvis… was there another name in the middle there?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Shooow Biiiz Pizza! Where a kid can be a kid!
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
Thanks for both links. The second one is the one I had in mind.
That pic of the cash in that guy’s wallet is awesome.
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
My favorite ultimately-meaningless-but-meaningful-to-me stat of the post-season:
David Freese is the first position player to with both the CS and WS MVP awards since Darrell Porter in 1982.
God bless Darrell Porter.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
there are actually a lot of firsts
a sh*-ton. I lost track of all of them.
Carp’s firsts alone are monstrous.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I would like to see a complete list, but it would take Elias to compile it.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
we also now have a title in a 1- decade.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was going to mention this last night, but forgot!
It’s the Wild Card Effect!
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
what's really eerie is that both times we needed the Braves to do it.
I still remember Boggs howling about breaking their heart like they broke his (he the Georgia boy)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm sad.
ever since twitter needed log-in for media, I have missed a lot of tweeted pics because of my lack thereof.
grab and drop some, y’all… help a fan out
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Just log in with your @TortyCraig account
2011 will be a season for the ages. The St. Louis Cardinals are the WS Champs!
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by Paulspike on Oct 29, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
oh, right.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
a quote by me.
We don’t always win World Series, but when we do — they are the most interesting Series in the World.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
what made it really exciting is they'd never met
it was so very old-school, pre-interleague.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
where the best team to adapt and win the mental as well as physical game will win.
and, sorry for so many posts, I am so strung out right now
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
see now, this "WOW" headline of the P-D is kind of lame
I found one that says 11th Heaven
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
better than the "really." one i got
all of them were lame in columbia
by Redbird99_98 on Oct 29, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
really? "really"? for real?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
"Texas toast" is a good one
though mean.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I fuckin love texas toast.
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Here in Texas
we call it “toast.”
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Well, I guess I can finally wash my "Do It For Torty" shirt
starting to get a bit funky
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
is SBN still saying we should shave our hair with gilette?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
anybody know if torty has a hangover?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I can finally wash my Holliday jersey.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 29, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I can finally log onto VEB
barely even lurked since the last week of the season and definitely stayed away from game threads. Can’t jinx ’em now.
by the way, for those of you not in St. Louis
there’s a fine layer of frost on the grass
but it’s okay
we got the… FREESE WARNING
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wonderful, marvelous season
capped by an epic playoff run. What a joy.
I’m stuck in a room watching a bunch of guys struggle through the FE for 8 hours today. Guess I’ll go read through the game 6 and game 7 threads… Hope I don’t laugh or WOOO out loud.
be sure to tell us how many people gave up on Game 6.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
haha, a tidbit from Passan
the Cards call their video room the “sports bar”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
YOU THINK WE'RE NOT GONNA DRINK BEERS IN THE CLUBHOUSE
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 29, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
it's not a bad bit of prose, and appeals to the voyeur in me.
David Freese had stopped by earlier, and Aldo – that’s Mike Aldrete, the Cardinals’ co-hitting coach – bumped fists with him. Neither said anything. The game was in the 11th inning, and twice already the Cardinals had done the impossible, and now everybody was glued to his lucky seat, and no way were they wrecking this thing. Aldo in one corner. Chad Blair, the Cardinals’ video coordinator, next to him. Matt Holliday forming a scalene triangle. Lance Berkman off to the side. Ben Bultmann and Isaiah Honick, video assistants, in the opposite corner. Not moving. Never moving.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Late-Breaking News: Chris Carpenter Does Not Give a Fuck
He just doesn’t. Not even a little bit. You read it here first.
scrappy, scrappy, scrappy ball club
by brockflood on Oct 29, 2011 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
whoaaaa!
next thing you’ll tell me there’s a couple of dudes from St. Louis with rings
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
WHOA GUISE
DAVID FREESE AND KYLE MCCLELLAN ARE ST. LOUIS AREA LOCALS AND THEY JUST WON THE WORLD SERIES WITH THEIR TEAM WHICH HAPPENS TO BE THE ST. LOUIS CARDINALS
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 29, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
NEXT THING YOU'LL TELL ME THEY WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL HERE
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
YOU THINK WE WON'T ASK WHICH HIGH SCHOOL THEY WENT TO???
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 29, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
IT IS WHAT IT IS
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
as Carpenter was leaving the game, the bar I was at gave him a standing ovation.
It felt so fitting. Chris Carpenter pitched like an ace during this run. As he walked off the field, I felt so…proud of him. Situations like this lead to unnecessary narratives, but this World Series just seemed like a perfect microcosm of our season. And Carp’s Game 7 was no different for me.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Gahhh Im working 6 to 6 today...
Can I pay someone to grab me a Post Dispatch? Living in central IL stinks…
2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!
by mtzxc on Oct 29, 2011 10:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I actually really like the photo of Albert that is on ESPN.com right now
He’s goggled and is madly spraying alcohol into the air.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Just went there to take a look
There article on David “Guess Where I Went To High School” Freese is apparently titled
“Call him ‘MVFreese’”.
That may be one of the worst things I’ve ever seen.
Don't say hi to me.
We can all be excused on a Day After like this one.
Now, using “then” for “than” is another matter entirely. No excuse evah for that one.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
"MVFreese! I am totally going to use that!"

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 29, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Watched Freese's triple for first time
This morning. Goosebumps just thinking about it.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 29, 2011 10:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Guys...the Cardinals are the 2011 World Series Champions!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2011 will be a season for the ages. The St. Louis Cardinals are the WS Champs!
Bilingual Twitter
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!
This team could be powerhouse next year
if they sign Pujols, Furcal and keep Dotel. I’m ok with Westy, Lohse in the back half of rotation with Waino, Carp and Garcia out in front.
Berkman to Pujols: “just come back”
Just win
its going to be pretty much the same team + waino next year
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 29, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
assuming pujols resigns, of course.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 29, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
and if we resign Furcal or get a SS that can field
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 29, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
please let both these things happen
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
less than 24 hours later, i have to confess
i’ve got a line of buckets filled with cold water for the “re-sign furcal” talk
Memo to Puhols — St Louis is the best baseball city, where baseball is actually a priority.
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
hopefully the memo will spell his name right.
also, subject lines. =)
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
An intern wrote that memo and forgot to proof-read it
John Mozeliak will have the intern come into his office and please close the door behind him if he wouldn’t mind. How is the intern doing? Ah, that is good. Well, there’s really no easy way for John Mozeliak to say this to the intern, but he has bad news. Sometimes mistakes are made and that’s unfortunate, and we really aren’t going to play the blame game. But with the memo incident and the fallout afterwards, John Mozeliak feels that at this time, the Cardinals organization has to go in a different direction. They will be more than happy to provide references and wish the intern all the best in the future.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 29, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It was surprisingly easy to fall asleep last night around 2,
but I woke up at 4:30 and was so excited, I didn’t get back to sleep until 6:00.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
If FAcebook has been good for one thing this year
it gave me a “world series gear” link and I found a Cards luggage tag. Been searching for one for a few years for the Christmas list.
Now gotta wait for world series gear prices to go down, and baseball card prices to subside on ebay.
Thanks to everybody, including VEB.
A hell of a season. A hell of a finish.
I wrote here during the NCLS that I had every reason back during Spring Training to think that neither the Cards nor I would be around to see this happen. Well, we both made it, and a CT scan this week shows that the cancer hasn’t progressed from where it was in May, so I’m already planning ahead to my first ST trip because it is something I promised myself 50 years ago I would do.
Life is good, and this morning is oh so sweet.
The cat is fine, thank you.
by Intheway on Oct 29, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 15 recs
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE GREAT RESULTS!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 29, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Congrats man
A title is a helluva way to celebrate.
So basically, you were down to your last strike
But you refused to let it end there
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
fight it like the cards did
and you’ll be making more happy posts when we get 28 in 2028 and holding a middle finger up to NYY
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 29, 2011 7:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Beating them in the WS four years in a row in the mid 2020's will have been so awesome
The 2028 series was like an awesome reunion.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
YOU DON'T KNOW ME, JOKER!
I’M THINKING LUCKY 13 IN ’13!
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 29, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well this century is lining up for LOTS of Championships.
- in 12, #13 in 13, #14 in 14, etc…. for the REST OF THE CENTURY!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
So... World Series Champions!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 29, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
We've got to get Flair into the parade somehow
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 29, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
He's a Cards fan, isn't he?
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 29, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
just have him style & proflie down the streets.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
look, if frickin Pat Burrell can randomly show up.........
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Punto's buddy
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
So I roll out of bed and turn the TV on...
MLBN is showing Game 2 of the NLDS. The Cards have just tied it at 4 and the bullpen is starting its postseason run.
Gonna be a good day.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Sigh.
107 days until pitchers and catchers report
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Guess I'll have to think about this until then.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 29, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
they need a bigger stage if they're gonna keep having babies.
also, I am steadily more and more convinced that AJ is his dad’s actual agent/bodyguard.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know where I can rewatch game 7?
I still haven’t gotten a dvr thing. And, if not, has anyone taken a screenshot or something of one of fox’s blimp aerials near the end of the game? I bet the sea of red in and out of the stadium looked spectacular.
So Chris Carpenter's daughter is terrified of Fredbird
Poor Ava Carpenter couldn’t clear the tears from her eyes. She is 6 years old. A streak of red coursed through her blonde hair. Most of the Cardinals ladies, even the littlest ones, dyed at least one lock of hair. Ava wore red boots, too, and as proud as she was of her daddy and as tough as she was trying to be for his sake, she couldn’t get past the gigantic Cardinals mascot causing her waking nightmares.
"She hates Fredbird," Alyson Carpenter said. "Instant terror."
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
can y'all post more links? links are good
I am being hypocritical, because tab-gack is making me not post as many links. also they all seem inadequate, except, oddly, Passan’s stuff.
here.
Game 7 – it’s complicated
Game 6 is above
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Columbia Tribune frontpage link
MattSebek Matt Sebek
The front page of the today’s Columbia Tribune is simple, elegant & dramatic. Just fantastic. — pic.twitter.com/XsuVt4wr
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
we won't be able to see that.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Fine. Twitslacker.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 29, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
if you see a dude with a super-goofy giant grin on his face grabbing one as well.
it’s probably me
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
the hell, I want that one!
thanks
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i'll work my family connections
they owe me for stealing my beans
gracias
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, I've never had a good reason to buy a Columbia Tribune before
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
can someone get me one of those.
or at least tell me where i can get that picture. yadi falling to his knees first before jumping up like crazy was the most poignant part of everything to me.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
fespn pointed out that we had the same regular season record
as the Red Sox.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Is that why we got a trophy?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
hence my thought that this is for 2004
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes. WWL measures everything in relation to the Bo Sox
When will a modern day Capernicus come around and show the Church of the Our Lady of Bristol that the world does not revolve around Boston?
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
by totalloser on Oct 29, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
The Church of Our Lady of Bristol...that's great.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
oh cool!
so, they won the world series too?
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
I am tempted by chocolate rally squirrels at Crown Candy......... hmmmmmmm
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Lets talk TLR
some of us love him, some of us hate, most of us are in the middle…
he’s going to the Hall of Fame as a Cardinal
But, what is he worth? Should he turn the reigns over to the Secret Weapon?
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
For a stetch there, his teams were fading badly at the end of the season.
This year notwithstanding.
Let him manage as long as he wants now.
by GogoPlata4U on Oct 29, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking about it last night.
Sometimes, in the regular season, he burns himself over-managing as if every game is a World Series Game 7, and it definitely can be frustrating to watch at times. But when you see him master his way through a postseason like he did this year, maybe all that run-up is worth it.
I’ve come to just have to accept TLR for what he is. Though sometimes his games have frustrating events (e.g. position players pitching), I don’t necessarily disagree with his opinions that get him in those positions (for the preceding example — that you should aim to win in 9 innings, not bank on extras).
There’s one video I really want to find… remember when the season was about two weeks old, and TLR was getting absolutely grilled on the Cardinals complete void of offense? Game after game he was being asked about why the Cardinals couldn’t produce, was Mark McGwire cut out to be a hitting coach, why was the offense not clicking with the offensive moves they made…
It was that point, about two weeks in after another shutdown loss, where Tony lost his temper at the reporter who asked question. I don’t remember exactly what he said, but he got mad and said it was only two weeks into the season, give it time and stop demanding changes after 10 games.
Only two weeks into this season and people already thought the Cardinals were hopeless and he was firing right back. In an odd way, I’ve felt like that kind of set the pace for the year’s offense.
WWCD? CDGAF.
La Russa is your classic INTJ type brain. Master strategist.
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
over strategist
when things tightened up late in the season
he made fewer weird interventions and more so than usually
let the players play
and jmo got him a few better players
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Myers-Briggs FTW!
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That presser link floated around this week.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
yeah, it got replayed in the montages
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU DON'T THINK THIS RANT WILL BE REPLAYED IN MONTAGES AFTER WE WIN THE WORLD SERIES????
Don't say hi to me.
by chalk on Oct 29, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i've been overall disappointed in the montage-making
but mostly because there have been too many moments for not enough airtime.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps they need to skip the montage
and go with a documentary.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
i was thinking zombie movie
hey!! are those animators in Taiwan or wherever going to summarize this series?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He will be back so he can get number 2 on the all time wins list
also because of this
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 29, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Must...Have...TLR...Bobblehead...
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
About TLR this season, I think I was really frustrated that he was taking too much of
a long term approach. Instead of settling for immediate wins, he kept on wanting to find out where each player stood and in the process sacrificed many wins. It worked out in the end, but it almost didn’t. And if we did miss the playoffs, say by one game, I would have been really pissed. But now, we made it, and all that long term strategy led to many confident players in the post-season, especially some of the young players. I am still conflicted on this.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
very very good post and observation
when franklin blew his last game and was relieved of his closing roll…i was like okay “time to put you to the bottom of the pile” and the next day tony did it…..but its just luck i happenened to give franklin his final chance the same time tony thought so too
thats why i found the situation with motte so strange…it was against the grain taking him out in the ws against hamilton…i would have thought the whole point of building him up during the season was to live and die with him instead of bringing in rhodes…but i had no problem whichever way he went
im a little conflicted but i agree with him…on the flip side he may also prematurely take a pitcher out on a positive note to build on which i like
by guillermozeliak on Oct 30, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He's maddening, tinkering, and always messing with our heads
But I maintain he’s probably better at this than most.
i think EvilFrog hit it
he’s regarded as a genius because his peers do comparatively idiotic sh* next to him.
however I think his preparation is bar none. i’m most concerned in that his attention to detail has been slipping, which might be age factors or something else.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
After seeing Ron Washington manage, I feel a little better about TLR
Also, having him back might lead to Allen Craig, starting second baseman.
i agree on the attention to detail
there are some parts he may miss since he’s an old timer…not saying that he’s not as sharp but tony might not be changing or adapting as fast as today’s experts
but my take is this is why we have coaches…hopefully he is open and able to be a life long learner of managing
by guillermozeliak on Oct 30, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Berkman
renowned Cardinals crusher, Killer B, long-time foe. How great is it that he got his well-deserved World Series ring as a St. Louis Cardinal? Congratulations Mr. Berkman, I am glad you’re on the right side.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 29, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I love fat elvis
I even highly respected him as an astro
he is all texas… i can’t fault him for that any more than i can fault freese from being from StL
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 29, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He was my favorite non-Cardinals player for a long time.
I’m so glad he was a part of this team, and that he had such a great year.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Where's does he get all that power? Contrasting the Puma w/ Dirty Dan
When it looks like Dirty Dan got all of the ball with a full swing, it always gives me a false sense that he drove it really far. But it almost always results in a fly ball way short of the warning tracks. When the Puma lazily flicks at the ball on the edge of the plate, the ball skys and ends up 10 rows in the stands as a HR. These two lefties are oppositely deceptive in their swings. Don’t get me wrong, I love Shoeless, but watching him can be maddening, while watching Berk can be a pleasant surprise.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
can I just mention
nobody burned any cars or anything. they didn’t do it now and they didn’t do it five years ago.
it’s not like it’s a requirement for a celebration
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
downtown was awesome last night
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 29, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Downtown was a bum's dream
There was probably about $10,000 worth of empty beer cans piled up to recycle.
Best fans in baseball in more ways than one.
This is a very family oriented town/team. I like the fact that many of the players’ kids were all over the postgame pics.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
well to be fair
that’s standard practice nowadays
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Some teams seem to have more of that than others, but you're point stands
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
MLB Network is doing a replay marathon of every Cards postseason win right now
NLDS Game 4 should be on now.
yeah this is awesome
i woke up to game 2 of the NLDS. Hoping my dvr has enough room to record all of this haha
Let the off-season intrigues begin
I heard there was an important free agency decision in STL.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
I prefer 2011 Cardinals.
but that is like picking a favorite child.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I understand but for me 2011 just feels better and different for some reason too.
Good lord I wrote off this team so many times during the season. This team was undescribably special for me to watch all year long.
by GogoPlata4U on Oct 29, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont know the reason...
but i was very attached to this team from the beginning. this unexpected championship was so freaking great. Plus, Game 5 NLDS and Game 6 of the World Series are two of my favorite games. 2011 tops 2006 for me.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Gm 6 for obvious reasons, but for pure viewership enjoyment I have to go with
gm 3. When Albert hit the first HR, I just burst out laughing. It just kind of felt like: “Hi Texas. There are some sticks in the Cardinal lineup also. Here’s evidence.”
by GogoPlata4U on Oct 29, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
every game in this world series was remarkable.
it’s funny that Game 7 was probably the least dramatic.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
For me, until it got to be 5-2 or even 6-2, it felt pretty tense
1 run lead for these 2 teams is like nothing, it’s like a five dollar bill in my wallet. (Please don’t tell my wifey about this)
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
yeah 2011 team is better
in 2006 the tigers practically handed us the world series. this year the braves just gave us a chance and they ran with it all the way
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
06 as a Cards fan who lived through the decade preceding. 11 for all of baseball.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
06 since it was the first championship of my lifetime (and the whole living through the prior decade).
But 2011 for…well, you know.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
toss-up, but i'd say 11
THEY DID IT FOR TORTY! 2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
twitter
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 29, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
2011 and it's not even close
Honestly 2006 was a lot less satisfying than I thought it’d be.
Not afraid to nitpick
Probably 2006
Because I felt so cheated the two previous years. Wanted to see the MV3 get their rings. And because I was surrounded by Mets fans when Wainwright introduced his filthy, filthy curveball to the rest of the nation. This has been completely stunning, though. Beautiful and satisfying in a different way.
i enjoyed this one more
for two reasons. one, i wasn’t a member of VEB then. i followed it a bit during the season but i didn’t interact with anyone here as much. VEB has become a very substantial portion of my enjoyment of baseball. i’d still love baseball without this site, of course.
two, i didn’t really get to watch the world series that year. i was out in the wilderness. i caught a little of game five on the radio, but that’s it.
this time, i got to watch it all. the improbable run. the LDS, the LCS, the world series. it was amazing.
2006 was still awesome, and i did catch up on the series when i got back by watching recordings of the game but i felt a little more removed from the action.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
2006 was the payoff for MV3
But this one is better to me because of the whole story.
A team immediately shorthanded in ST as their ace goes down,
a team making their valiant run anyway and then left for dead by everyone in August,
a team that found some magic* and just kept getting closer in September and was overshadowed by the team in the AL doing the same thing,
a team that tried to piss it away with 5 games left in the season and scored runs on a BB and a WP to win a game,
a team that had one bad motherfucker pitch the game of his life to force a game 163 (and then got to watch as that game wasn’t needed),
a team that was such an afterthought that they didn’t have a “Written in the Stars” commercial until after the NLDS,
a team that needed that bad motherfucker to top his previous game of his life to keep playing,
a team that outbrewered the Brewers in the NLCS,
a team that was so expected to flop in the WS that even on the day of Game 7 MLBN ran more of Atlanta’s “Written in the Stars” commercial than theirs
You don’t imagine this whole scenario ever. A piece here, a piece there absolutely. But every time they needed some thingdooery to advance the cause they got it.
*Carlos Santana’s talisman has real powers!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
2011.
Myabe I’m biased right now, but this was insane.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Great defense, good offense, solid but unspectacular starters and excellent closer then,
Mediocre defense, awesome offense, talented by shaky starters, and ridiculous bullpen now.
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
I enjoyed the 06 run more, but that probably doesn't have much to do with the respective teams
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this team more
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
2011 for me.
Possibly because I’m older now. But really I think I just really like this team.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
2011 for me
Because 05 is when I began following the Cardinals, I didn’t know nearly enough about baseball in general back then, and I wasn’t nearly as invested in the Cardinals.
Grit != flat out sucking.
mme too
so i agree with you and clemson…i was in colleg for 06 and 04 runs…didnt follow as much because of school and even the regular season
after we got holliday ive watched 90 percent of the games followed 100 percent of them and understand so much more now (which veb was a huge part analyzing the game of baseball for me)…and i hit the jackpot winning it in ’’11because ive only intensely followed since aquireing holliday…im spoiled
by guillermozeliak on Oct 30, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
2006 was my first full season following the team
but i had to watch them win from germany
this postseason i spent pretty much all home games at busch
i doubt there will be another postseason run like this in my lifetime or such a crazy ws. or ever
2011 no contest. i was invested a hundred percent
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 29, 2011 8:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2011
2006 felt more flukey. We were doing it then with guys like Weaver and Suppan playing way over their heads. Don’t get me wrong, I loved winning back then, but at the time I was somewhat frustrated that it couldn’t have been one of the 100 win 04/05 teams win it but the 83 win 06 team gets it done.
This year seemed more like the real deal in that we played really good ball for an extended period.
Then, the way this team did it with the absolute refusal to die makes it really special.
I think the other thing I like about this team is that the chemistry seems to be so much better. 06 had the LaRussa/ Rolen conflict where this year just has so many good vibes.
Finally, my son is older this time and I have enjoyed watching the games with him more this year than I did in 06 when he didn’t have as much of a sense of what was going on.
2011 cardinals, in 3.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
David Freese was born with "ice in his veins...."
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Mac's expression there is hilarious.
These kids…
by peach concrete on Oct 29, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
MAFIA!
i still can’t figure out who that guy in the jacket is.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
aldrete?
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by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 29, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that giff.
McGwire “absorbing” the punch is so awesome.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Attacking McGwire with conventional techniques is counter-productive
With his absorption powers it only adds to his strength.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
someone else is posting from China

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I didn't know you were black y2s
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
but seriously, that's Nelly
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Tony LaRussa's best phone call ever
"Let’s lay out the options," La Russa said.
"It’s Carp," Duncan said.
He hung up.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 13 recs
I'm just really glad
That Tony didn’t hear “Lynn” when Duncan said “Carp”
by thegodfather on Oct 30, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Listen to this...
My brother and sister-in-law drove to StL from KC, with the intention to just be in StL for Game 7. They called my aunt to see if they could stay at their place. My aunt said “Of course you can stay with us! But how about you also come to the game with us, as we have these 2 tickets and all.”
So, they went to Game 7, for free and all.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 29, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
wow......
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by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 29, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
was Pat Burrell like the bear in The Shining?
because otherwise it just doesn’t make sense. even for the horror oeuvre.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Are there some pics or clips of this?
It just makes so very little sense that I can’t believe it.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
gdm noticed it, when he rolls in ask him
it was probably in one of the multiple shots
I’m sad I couldn’t watch more of the local channels, ‘cause y’all were missing out — and also sad that some of the local channels had horrible production values
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yea, always bums me out that I can't watch FSMW, and all that.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Friend of Punto's, who invited him
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
It is, indeed...
a celebration, bitches.
…and Furcal deserves credit for having his best game of the series when it mattered most.
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss?"
-The Diz
by The Classical on Oct 29, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
he's clutch
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
Cardinals baseball effect.
My mom called me this morning to say her favorite moment was Craig and Jay after Craig made the final out, how happy they looked running at each other like little kids. Said it reminded her of me and my friends just celebrating a summer game when we were kids.
WWCD? CDGAF.
yes! the Can You Believe This moment
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Feliz Vuelo
a Disneylandia.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
think about how many ATL teams he's been on that made the playoffs & never won
now he’s got one with us, pretty f’ing cool
Balls
If any of you Columbia-area VEBers want to come
to a low-key, outdoor halloween party tonight with some med students, english grad students, and little kids, shoot me a message via twitter or FB.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
I didn't realize you were in Columbia
are you involved in Beth Shalom or Hillel, per chance? I wonder if I actually know you.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Nothing wrong with that at all. I don't make it all that much to Shul anymore, as I
now have a 2 month old baby.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
I'm in Como too
VEB watch party 2012!
by Michael Wuest on Oct 29, 2011 11:11 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
yeah, sometime when the season gets going again we should all meet somewhere to watch a game.
There are 6 or 7 of us, I think.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
For some reason, this song kept running through my head the last few games
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG8fugqFn9Q
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
My fav pic
so far is Craig
Also love the Yadi on his knees at the plate and the Furcal jubliation moment in the above gif.
by DisplacedCardsFan on Oct 29, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
Actually this
is a better one of Yadi
by DisplacedCardsFan on Oct 29, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anybody see this from that Jeff Passan article?
On plane rides throughout this season, Matt Holliday would awaken to a fierce thump on the top of his head. The first time it hurt like hell, and all the ones after that wounded his pride more than anything else.
Adam Wainwright(notes) liked sitting behind him, slipping on his 2006 World Series ring and popping Holliday good. When Holliday turned around, Wainwright would say: "I got one of these and you don’t." And as old as the joke got to Holliday, it never lost its amusement to Wainwright, bored as he was rehabbing his elbow from Tommy John surgery.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
yeah
I think i commented in some faraway thread
Waino is mean, lol
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
he is such a goofball.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
no wonder holliday was always injured
Waino was secretly sabotaging his season!
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Since it seems like you're reading through this and posting the best quotes
I’ll save you some time.
"Nobody believes me," Dotel said, "but we won the World Series. Ha ha ha ha ha."
"He’s a free agent!" Dotel said. "Alberta! Say hello to my little friend!"
Don't say hi to me.
by chalk on Oct 29, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Dotel scares the f out of me
as a good bullpenner must
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
you didn't check this photo before you posted it, did you
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
i was trying for understatement
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in fucking tears right now.
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
This article is pretty darn good.
Definitely the best thing I’ve read so far post-game-seven.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Adam should know
You can’t hurt Holliday’s head – if you want to damage him, get him when he’s not wearing the dong glove
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So really it's just a matter of time until Adam gets a concussion on a flight next season???
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
non baseball
tis the season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcNoMnKjrY
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
celebrate good times come on
(i feel like this has been posted after every series win)
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Wonder if Rangers might be a bidder
For Albert
by setitan on Oct 29, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
problem is
now Albert’s seen how Wash operates.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He'd bat him 8th
And swap him for German.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
someone should do one of those things that progressively zooms in on his face
by prophetjohn on Oct 29, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I second that.
Offseason memes commence.
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss?"
-The Diz
by The Classical on Oct 29, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
What I thought of (for you Final Fantasy fans)
by saladdays on Oct 29, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
excellent
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 30, 2011 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions
i no longer have my ps2 or mvp baseball games
but i will probably be spending a good chunk of the winter playing The Show. this is the first time in several years that i can’t wait for baseball season to be back.
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Love the show
wish they would introduce a new engine. They keep using the 08 engine, and while it’s good and they improve on it every year, they could do so much more.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd love to see EA get the license back and make MVP games again
i loved those. i gave my PS2 to a friend earlier this summer after not playing it (and trying to get rid of it) for the better part of two or three years. the only downside was the fact that i wanted to play the mvp games on occasion, as i had done in winters past. ah well.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 29, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
2K has been horrible – 07 was the last good one and it all went downhill after that. I loved the MVP series (05 was the best for me) but people are missing out. That’s why I recommend getting a PS3 to any baseball fan. I have all the systems and i’m not partial to one or the other, but when it comes to baseball, nobody beats The Show
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a ps3
and i like The Show a lot. if EA got the license, i’d be ecstatic that the MVP series would be back. i loved the mini-games and stuff that The Show doesn’t feature. I’m not even a big Franchise fan in many games, but I liked the Franchise mode in MVP.
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Yeah, the Show is the nuts. Love the rivalry mode to play with a buddy.
Sometimes baserunning can be a little iffy, but overall it’s far and away the best out there.
Yeah I mostly play road to the show
and season mode.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
so is there a manhunt in Philly over who exactly threw a squirrel at the bullpen?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's really quality, it is.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You know, it really is
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
I wanted you to post it!
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
They gave out a trophy for the canceled series in 2004?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 29, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
albert looks like he is going
home to have squirrel for dinner
love him or hate him and sometimes both
I really dont think many current managers can manage clubhouse chemistry and talent the way that TLR does. he’s won with some good A’s teams, and some teams that had lots of holes.
Under him guys like Taguchi, PWilson, Rhodes, Jeff weaver, R.Theriot, Nick Punto..and more have rings…
because TLR
i really don't think clubhouse chemistry or talent have anything to do with Tony.
he prefers his veterans to set the tone, and that has been widely reported.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but a lot of his players attribute him with the mindset and attitude thats what i meant by chemistry. i think he has a grasp for who does or doesn’t belong. all i was saying
but havent debated with you in a bit so hooray
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Oct 29, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
that makes sense
he does run it like a barracks, imo
and i think you mean
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
there have been times when it's been tense
but this team seemed to be a lot more loose than 06. there were reports he was like celebrating and stuff with crowd or something after game 6…
anyway we could debate all day not sure any current manager wins with some of the teams he does
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Oct 29, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
sometimes, it's hard to support his proven vets theory
because of players like theriot, winn, patterson and guys like that…. but somehow, some way, it works.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 29, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but he has also this year and in 06 turned it over to younger guys..Wagonmaker, Lynn, a younger Kinney, Craig as a pinch hitter(long ride for him though) etc
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Oct 29, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i didn't say like that.
i meant the guys that no one can stand…
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I'm saying it works when they have good proven vets
and not bad ones.
Theriot was replaced, Winn didn’t help us at all, and Patterson was just a throw in on a trade to keep guys in Memphis playing every day. He had 12 PAs during September.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Guys like Taguchi, Wilson, Rhodes, Weaver, Theriot, and Punto win World Series rings every single year.
Every team has players like them: veteran position players in the autumn of their careers as bench players, No. 5 starters, LOOGYs, fifth outfielders. I don’t think it’s really an accomplishment unique to La Russa.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The manager didn't pull anything off so much as the players did.
TLR deserves some credit, but runs like this happen. It’s the nature of baseball in the Wild Card era. The Marlins of ‘98 and ’03, the ’02 Angels, the ’07 Rockies (even if they didn’t win), the ‘04 Red Sox. There are many examples of teams getting hot at the right time and winning a pennant or World Series. For what it’s worth, there’s an argument that TLR’s horrendous bullpen management and in-game over-management cost the Cardinals Games 2 & 5 in this series.
Does TLR deserve some credit? Sure, he does. But, there’s so much beyond a manager’s control that I don’t think anyone can credit him with this run. With the talent on this roster, I’d argue quite a few managers could have rode the wave into the playoffs and won a World Series title.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i agree mostly
but still think as much as he over manages and makes bad mistakes, he did a good job with this bunch. most of the players said it was he who said lets get better even if we appear to be out of it(paraphrased). And i know there was a player meeting.
i know who he is and what he does…see my sig, just saying props to him
i could be wrong and the re-tread experiment has gone both ways- Weaver worked…Wells did not..etc..
i guess im done im not getting anywhere, just think as maddening as he can be, he did a good job..
because TLR
this was like 06
he had to play younger guys
he even jettisoned cpat
albert had one hit, one, outside of game 3
holli was useless for the most part
but, tastee, ac, sauce, and even d2d2 did good
plus furk and do tell
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
molding the bullpen
and able to get a group work together was the best thing
its been said by commentators/experts before but schilling said it best when he talked about the bullpen aspect of this team and you have to control egos if that problem would have occured…he was spot on and i respect his opinon
by guillermozeliak on Oct 30, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
the now-traditional October man-pile!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I fear for the placement of Dirty Dan's and Punto's hands.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I'm not seeing anything
I see a youtube box with a spinning circle
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do believe I am being trolled
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
WHOA GUISE WE CAN EMBED VIDEOS NOW
WHY DIDN’T DEVELOPER DAN TELL US—Oh wait, it’s a .gif file.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I BELIEVE I CAN FLY
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Freese looks terrified of the ensuing collision!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
BCB and RR did not take it well last night, see
by prophetjohn on Oct 29, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
you even got that fake youtube thing from there
crossing the line from schadenfreude-lavishing to rec-whoring
the rec whoring this was supposed to be a joke, I should have reworded that
I just thought that the cross-SBN-blog posting was something we planned to stop because it always seems to get out of hand after a while.
by hr on Oct 29, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks, mom
but reading and posting are not the same thing. if somebody is worried about what blog i’m reading the day after their favorite team won the world series, well i don’t have anything clever to say. it’s just sad
Son, I never said I cared about you reading other blogs
Hell, I read all of BCB, BCB-“lite”, RR, LSB, HH, and LL this morning. But I didn’t cross-post anything from there because it only excites the trolls. Feel free to read whatever you want, who cares?
by hr on Oct 29, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
you think the best way to spend your time right now
is complaining about where i copy image URLs from.
also, i don’t think you know what is meant by “cross posting,” but this exchange is tiring either way, i’m gonna move on
To be fair, I only planned to complain for 10 seconds (see my 5 word post above)
but I digress as well. 2011 FUCKING WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS
Aslo by cross-posting I mean copying other people’s posts and pasting them on here, I dunno if that clarifies anything
by hr on Oct 29, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 29, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
welp, i guess it's about time for all the bitching and moaning to start again
sorry, guys. matt holliday sucks dicks i hate him
by prophetjohn on Oct 29, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
please keep cross posting at will. it's fun.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 29, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
World Series Serious drinks at mobile! 6!
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"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I've been randomly throwing my hands in the air and yelling
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
whenever I enter a room, or someone comes into the room I’m in.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions
to all the de-lurkers and new posters
welcome welcome welcome
we are indeed as scary as advertised, but we love you guys. please stick around and stuff.
you’re probably just lost in some other overflow or something.
sorry all we can say right now is
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Rec'ing
A low key way to test the waters.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Oct 29, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks! Will do.
And WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by jestanley on Oct 29, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you've got to get over the new-guy hatred
this site’s continued existence (let alone the continued quality of the comments and gamethreads) would be in doubt without them.
by DanUpBaby on Oct 30, 2011 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
GDM just doesn't like the kids on his lawn
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 30, 2011 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I've solved this problem
by selecting a career path in which I will never be able to afford a lawn again
you should try underemployment
all the financial concerns of unemployment, and none of the free time! I’m digging it.
by DanUpBaby on Oct 30, 2011 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
damnit
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 30, 2011 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Haven't seen anyone post this yet...
Brandon Phillips said that if the Cards win, he might come to the parade in a Molina jersey.
Man, I can’t hate that guy. I’ll still boo him, but he’s pretty decent.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions
to be honest, phillips & morgan have worn out my welcome
for them to say what they did about the cards is unacceptable. i was in cincy in may and the reds fans booed yadi just as much as cards fans would phillips. the fire is still there.
THEY DID IT FOR TORTY! 2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
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hey request for a memesplanation, por favor
who started the “you don’t think” all-caps meme? and is it from something
thankee
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's from an early season TLR presser, right?
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i dunno
my databanks have a big blank hole there
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Were you asking about the real-world event that inspired it or the first meme-ing of it on VEB?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Yes, exactly this.
Skip to about 3:30 in the video for the blowup.
This is tied with IT IS WHAT IT IS as my favorite meme of the year.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
When Adam Wainwright has TJ surgery, the Cards won the WS
I know that. It is what it is.
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
you don't know me joker
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 29, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Tony knew all along that Freese would hit
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU THINK TONY DIDN'T THINK FREESE WAS GONNA HIT?
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
by cschepers on Oct 29, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It didn't strike me that the "YOU DON'T THINK" meme was from that presser...
Until I went and searched for it after talking about it above. Derp.
WWCD? CDGAF.
wtf
you have 20 times as many posts on veb as me and you don’t know the origin of this meme? wtf
Don't say hi to me.
hey, I don't necessarily remember everything I read/see/do
why do you think i like making lists so much
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The good Latin teachers always say
“If you don’t know it, look it up”. So Y2S looked it up.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Alternate Indiana Jones version:
Indiana Jones: Can’t you remember?
Henry Jones: I wrote them down in my diary so that I wouldn’t have to remember.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
"You're named after the dog???"
“I’ve got a lot of fond memories of that dog…”
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
YOU DON'T THINK YADI2SECOND IS GONNA FORGET SOMETHING?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 29, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
MLBN replaying their postgame stuff from last night.
Holiday just finished his interview, talking to craig now. Craig still has the ball from the last out.
Buehrle and Oswalt want "in" on the '12 Cards. Is there room?
by RedAllOver on Oct 29, 2011 1:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
they've both said that they want to be cardinals at some point
especially buehrle.
THEY DID IT FOR TORTY! 2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
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Buehrle obviously does. He's been chirping about it for years now. Didn't know about Ossie
Are both FA’s??
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Buehrle for LOOGY
Only place we have a spot for him.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 29, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
tis their own fault for opening the door
Team Year IP BB Texas Rangers 2011 62 41
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
though they weren't so much walks, as terrifyingly inexorable shuffles
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't put guys on base
Our offense was not Albert and the chipmunks squirrels. It wasn’t even Albert and Berkman and Holliday and the squirrels. I wonder how many people were put on base via the walk for David Freese. And then there’s Allen Craig. Oh, and Yadi is a good hitter now, especially for a catcher. Oh, and Furcal’s bad luck wasn’t going to last forever. And so on…
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
If you're having a bad day
or maybe just hungover, whatever, do yourself a favor and take a look at Motte’s interview with the MLBN team. Probably my fav interview of the entire year.
by DisplacedCardsFan on Oct 29, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
lurking rangers fans?
but then, this probably wouldn’t help em much
by hr on Oct 29, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol rec
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Awesome interview.
He somehow managed to call Brian Wilson a douche without saying his name.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i loved the game 6 berk-and-freese one
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wrong link, btw
MLB video gotcha
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You are incorrect Jason
“I’m kind of low-key.”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Primadonna
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 29, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But I love the pre-madonna. I'm pre-Madonna.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
I wasn't even born yet pre-Madonna.
Pretty sure.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome malapropism.
Arthur Rhodes may be a pre-madonna, though.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 29, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're having a bad day
hungover, whatever, do yourself a favor (if you haven’t already) and check out Motte’s interview with the MLBN. Easily my fav interview of the entire year.
by DisplacedCardsFan on Oct 29, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions
YOU THINK TONY WON'T KILL YOU IF YOU TELL HIM TO BE A MAN?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions
a real victory
besides the Birds winning, and granted I don’t post very often, I feel somewhat glad that my above comment has 16 greens.
Understand that as a teacher….
either way, I’g glad the Birds won
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
what is craaaaazy is the media still hasn't noticed the Mafia.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
news of the Brownies!
orioles reportedly returning to cartoon bird on their logo (via Calcaterra)
no word on if they’ll have an LED singing tree in the outfield……
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I made that one the other day
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
CFCMWTTTAW
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
I just want to say
Thanks to all of you guys and gals for being here.
I watch almost every game at home with my laptop open. It doesn’t feel right if I can’t read VEB as it’s going on.
It feels like I’m watching every game in a huge room full of friends, sharing the memes, the fun, the good times, the triumph, and the heartbreak. You guys make something that’s already great (Cardinals baseball) even better.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Motte looked like a bear waiting for yadi to pounce on him
I don’t think it is at all reactionary to say this is my favorite cardinals team ever.
Character, class, and personality abound
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 29, 2011 1:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yadi was on his knees for a second
hence Motte… probably didn’t realize Yadi can launch from such a short distance, Waino should’ve warned him
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yadi's got surprising hops considering he had 30 lbs. of equipment on him
He reminds me of Jimmy Superfly Snuka. Maybe Yadi’s got a career in WWE after baseball.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Hey guy guess what
WE WON THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 29, 2011 1:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if he were nekkid, that really does resemble the classic shot out of the mist and smoke....
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I was going to post the arnold shot
but you see butt, and I don’t know how VEB feels about side butt shot
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
it would probably be fine if we needed to rally but
WE WON THE WORLD SERIES WOOOOOOOOOOOO
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Why is he Tebowing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
He's come back from the future
to save us from the evil machings
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
In the future Tebow is that awesome?
Cuz that would be good news for my fantasy team. Peyton Manning has sucked ass this year.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
This is like when the Terminator arrives
in a new time.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 29, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Only difference being..
that time-travel cannot tear apart the Cardinal uniform.
Only The Shredder is capable of such a feat.
As a bonus, we are not subjected to naked Pujols.
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss?"
-The Diz
by The Classical on Oct 29, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
So does Jimmy Ballgame get a ring?
He signed a contract for this year and I guess it all depends on how generous the cards are
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions
Landon, on the other hand........
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and edmonds didn't even play a spring training game.
THEY DID IT FOR TORTY! 2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
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They can give rings out to whomever they want
The lowest level scouts get rings of some sort.
Not afraid to nitpick
the team can give him one if they want to
But they don’t have to give him one.
Grit != flat out sucking.
he was never on the team because he failed the physical
so contract never in force
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
He has one from 2006 anyway.
If not, I’d be upset if they didn’t give him one. But he does have one from ’06, so nbd.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
there are usually two different rings, one for players&front office
and another one for lower level employees, scouts, etc
Balls
Do coaches also get player level rings?
In 2006 the Cards basically named any and all former players that dropped by in spring training, including Gibson, Brock, Schoendienst, Eldred, et al., as coaches of some sort and gave them rings.
So..World Series merchandise
Forgive me if this has been discussed, I opened the last 3 threads and ctrl + F looked for “buy” and “purchase”
Besides official team gear (clothing, etc.) and the P-D newspaper, who else rolls out stuff we need to buy? I assume AB-InBev will have their World Championship beer products rolled out fairly soon—anyone know when, or how soon they hit the shelves in 2006?
Dick's
My sister was just at Dick’s Sporting Goods in Chesterfield. Said it was mobbed.
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Oct 29, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I was afraid
of this.
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Oct 29, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
not much
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Oct 29, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
That is a pretty cool stein
I went to the Cardinals promotional game for Budweiser Beer Stein night..it was Sept. 3rd when things weren’t looking so hot. Only has 10 championships on it..
I'm hoping to get the budweiser glasses like they had
in 2006. My grandfather made a great wooden case for them and I’d like to try my hand at it.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 29, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I never got a glass from 2006
But a friend “acquired” a nice 2009 ASG glass from a bar for me..
I have it sitting in a bookshelf and have been too scared to use it for fear of accidentally dropping it or something.
my company gave each employee one of those glasses in 06
and I broke mine in 08. Then shortly after that, my then fiancee’s uncle, who is a cubs fan, gave us three that he had acquired. Because he hated them.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I love those glasses, I hope they have those again.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Is the P-D gonna have a better print option than the "WOW" page?
In 2006 they had a nice square photo (see here) and I’d like to get another one to match with it.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
The problem with McCarver's incompetence is that it's infectious
- CNN article on Cardinals’ victory
P.S. Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Boog would have made that play.
I read that and raged.
Bengie Molina plays for us?
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, what the fuck
seriously? that’s just flat-out incompetence.
by hr on Oct 29, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
So, I think Craig Allen should take about a week off,
and then immediately start taking grounders for the next 4 months. If he could take the second base job in Spring Training, and get 4 ABs a game next year, it would be wonderful.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 29, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
He's so not quick enough to be a starting 2B with a groundballing staff
If we’re complaining about Theriot or Skip’s defense….yeah. He can get some time there but it’d be idiotic to put a -15 defender at 2B on a regular basis. He should get a pretty good number of ABs as the first bat off the bench and Holliday/Berkman’s injury caddie.
Not afraid to nitpick
What about Pujols to 2nd?
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 29, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
craig is most definitely 1.5 wins better with the bat than theriot/skip though.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 29, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
he is
but I like the idea of getting a real second baseman instead of asking craig to turn into one.
Grit != flat out sucking.
dude totally needs to be the new second baseman
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
bar reactions
i got some street shots but after checking my phone today there was nothing good i found tihs one from paddy o’s and i love these….this is the best one ive found…please post yours if possible!
by guillermozeliak on Oct 29, 2011 2:15 PM EDT reply actions
does anyone have a link to the shot of Craig and Jay
…running in from the outfield after Craig caught the last out last night? Today, I see a different clip on mlb.com than the one I saw on Fox live. In the original clip, they looked like little kids that got the keys to the candy store. Another clip I’d like to find is LaRussa freaking out in game 5 when the ball bounced of Zep and Punto couldn’t dig it out.
Sorry if this has been covered already. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
youneverknow
I have watched this so many times.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 30, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OMG
Two things not noticed before:
The bench blindsides Motte while Yadi is in midair. Heh.
TLR and Berkman at the end of that clip.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
thank you!
wonderful video. I’ve been watching various highlights for days. I saw pretty much all of games 6 and 7 in bars w/ the sound muted (I was playing guitar both nights). Hearing the audio adds so much!
youneverknow
I have the best sister in the world.
Her and her S.O., who are back in St. Louis, spent a couple hours this morning scouring the town for a copy of the P-D to save for me. They finally found one by braving a “not so friendly” neighborhood.
Something about this team. I want all the swag I can get my hands on from this series.
WWCD? CDGAF.
Just wanted to point out that in 2006 the world was pissed
at the cards for winning the WS. This year almost everybody outside of STL is saying this was one of the most historic seasons/WS of all time.
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
yeah but there are still some
of the 06 comments…. Rangers gift wrapped it, Rangers choked…similar to the Tigers threw it away…
However Ron washington was very complimentary about how they played hard, the cards just wouldnt quit
because TLR
im seeing a lot of cub fans posting similar stuff on FB
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 29, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
1908 and 1945.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
yes, this has been my standard response for years
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 29, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Congratulations to the St. Louis Cardinals and their fans
A great run through September and October, even as a neutral observer it was fun to watch. May you enjoy the moment all winter long. All of the other teams have to “wait ’til next year!” The Cardinals don’t :-)
apologies if nexdef'd
“The baseball gods,” Schumaker said, “were working in our favor.”
by tomsteele on Oct 29, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
So how hard is it gonna be to get parade celebration tix?
"I had one of those faces you look at and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not."
-Bob Gibson
Saddest part of the year
is always when I go to BRef.com to get the final game results page to turn into the spreadsheet I keep track of the games I recorded this season.
Slightly less sad when there is a big fucking banner at the top of the Cardinals BRef page that says WORLD CHAMPIONS, BITCHES
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 29, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
So it turns out the Red Sox had deals with both David Freese and Carlos Martinez and the commissioner nixed both...
I’m starting to appreciate Bud.
martinez contract with the red sox was nixed because of his immigration paperwork
what’s the story with freese? he signed as an amateur free agent?
think about how much more money is available to be spent on the 2012 team
than there would have been if the crying birds really hadd just watched the playoffs
9 post season home games has to be what, 40M in revenue just in ticket revenue?
Not afraid to nitpick
10, sort of, if you count the rainout
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 29, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
some quotes from another forum I visit...
Texas fan
Rangers in 5.
I see no reason we don’t run away with this series.
nope
KC fan
I’ve given up on trying to predict playoff baseball. It’s just too hard.
That said, Cards in 7, why not.
(though I’d prefer to see the Rangers win)
why not is as good a reason as any I suppose
We all have something we such at.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Last Night....
…we played the ball game and catched and hit and threw the ball and we win’ed!
:+8)
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
We hit and we pitched better than they hit and they pitched?
Brilliant strategy. Tony is a genius.
Tortell for 2012 Manager!
too much band in the montage
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
At some point we're going to need to collect all the clips
And all the records and firsts and factoids into one place. So we can all bask in it,
why, maybe even a reliable search function
I’m still fuzzy, I might be able to get more done tomorrow
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
if heaven is Busch Stadium
the Virtual Waiting Room is limbo
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i fantasize of staking a claim on the bridge to nowhere (good memories of going home to the parking garage)
but would that be closed off?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
people are trying to sell the tickets on ebay
for 200 dollars. No bids so far, lol
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
well, because they're fuckers
the ticket sales all go to charity
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's 200 for 2 tickets
must be a season ticket holder, because there are multiple listings. I wish you could comment on ebay posts with crap like “THEY’RE FIVE DOLLARS AND GO TO CHARITY”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
guess there's no reporting them?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I guess they're not doing anything illegal
They’re taking their five dollar tickets and attempting to cash in
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
something else i was thinking of
if any do you think Big mac in year two helped? His philosophy seemed to get into the lineups head, then at times it seemed not present at all…just curious.. now i’ll wait for it to be devoured
because TLR
Freese said they were working on turning on the ball IIRC
The guy can’t follow them to the batter’s box and tell them to calm down.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i just remeber how most of us last season
debated the hitting coach, and if he was doing ok…he was renewed..
in 06 it seemed like at times the bats fell short especially in 04 too.
when they chose to be patient they said it was a big mac thing…and i liked his speel about bastard pitches
because TLR
it's a debate worth having.
I think hitting coaches are easy scape goats, I think in a case like McGwire, it easy can turn into a feel good story.
But like you said, McGwire has stated he teaches to lay of the bastard pitches, he also teaches to see the pitch and not guess, and to follow through the swing once you commit.
When the team collectively does what he says he preaches, and they have the best offense in the league. It’s becomes harder to say that he didn’t help.
Yeah, sometimes it seems the players wandered away from that philosophy. But I’m not sure can fault McGwire, or even the player for that. It is just baseball.
Grit != flat out sucking.
thank you for a well thought out reply
i just remeber last yr and people were quick to point out so and so doesnt like Big macs approach or its messing with this or that…but this year soemthing seemed to click, even though at times they still disapeared into the night…
maybe thats the baseball part, but youd think guys like Big mac, TLR etc would have an approach or a one trick pony in houston..
because TLR
I think Berkman helped
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course he did. He's a tremendous human being.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Berkman's help was felt immediately
No gloomy depressing dugout this year. Young guys were pivotal to this team getting to and winning the WS and I think Berk welcoming them taking them under his wing and helping to create an environment where they felt welcome to be a part of it all and be themselves was a huge impact on our success.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 29, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Great SEC game, today.
He he.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
DENSITY
http://www.missourinet.com/2011/10/29/11-things-you-need-to-know-about-11-in-11/
Save this article, btw. I think missourinet deletes their old ones.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
here's something they didn't mention
the team leader in steals this year was tyler greene, with 11.
THEY DID IT FOR TORTY! 2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
twitter
everyone got tickets for the rally?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
i have two pairs of tickets plus a single
that i bought while trying to get a good place to be with the camera. i finally got a good ticket for me but i ended up 5 extras to make sure i got something at all
best i could get was, sadly, the upper deck – 446 row 8 (2 tickets), 334 row 2 (2 tickets), 170 row 11 (1 ticket)
the tickets had no tax or fees so face value is $5. if anyone wants them, let me know, i will give them to you for what i paid
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
you can have those, no problem
you want to meet there and do this? email me your phone number to selqniq at gmail and i’ll call you to make arrangements
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
sure, no problem, email me and i'll give you the paypal acct
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
did you get them alright?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
tickets are gone
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I got 2!
section 261. Should the view be good from there? Is it best to get there at two or take pictures of the parade first and then go into the stadium? Any suggestions?
It's a great section to watch a baseball game in.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
Look, the reason the Cardinals won the World Series this year is because of our Special Assistant Coach
Albert Fred Schoendienst. He’s worn a baseball uniform for 66 consecutive years, and is a living, breathing, walking, talking history book on how to play the game the right way, how to lose graciously, how to win magnanimously, and how to celebrate with pride in one’s teammates and humility in one’s own accomplishments. I love that Red is a Cardinal institution, and I hope he enjoyed this one as much as all the others with which he’s been involved.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 29, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
jpos
See that catcher? Yadi Molina? You know how good he is defensively already, he’s shown it for years. Well, that defense will intimidate the heck out of teams in the playoffs. They will fear him.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Yadier really seemed to have Ian Kinsler's number.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
HFS!!!!!PUJOLS SIGNED!!!!!!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I don't even have to click on that
to have a good idea of what it is.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I made this joke on Twitter like 2 months ago
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
It's funnier now.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Effing ban.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
he's going to be doing that a lot more in the next few days
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Look, jerk, I'm in the midst of polishing off a bottle of champagne (mimosa-style).
I was able to figure out this was BS, but not before my heart skipped a beat. Quit fuckin’ around. :-P
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi, 2008 called
They want their memes that weren’t really funny back then back.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
I hope the robot banned you for that
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
nope, no warning or anything.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Congrats to me and congrats to all of you guys!
THIS IS AMAZING
Baseball was designed to break your heart
hey buddy
so I went downtown in Napa and met this guy who claimed to be a personal friend of Tony Larussa…. then I got bought a yager bomb by a braves fan and a giants fan…. We were hugging and jumping up and down like they had just won it all! SO HAPPY! SUCH A GREAT MOMENT!
Baseball was designed to break your heart
Really enjoying my diamonds today, you guys
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
4 C's of baseball diamond grading
Carp factor – how much one DNGAF
Craig turtle factor – how to be ready no matter what
Crazy – as in go crazy folks, e.g. Mr. Freeze in Game 6
"C"arma – all the stars have to align, e.g. rainout, Braves imploding, squirrels descending
2011 Cards grades Flawless D1+.
(I visited the GIA campus in Carlsbad 20 years ago, it made my girlfriend happy.)
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
by totalloser on Oct 29, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no more of this, please.
i mean the debate, not enjoyment.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
We just won the World Series
It’s okay to have a little bit of a sense of humor.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You sure get offended by a lot of things that I say, haha
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't get offended by much at all.
i don’t know why you feel this way. perhaps my tone isn’t being conveyed properly.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
So you got that it was obviously a joke
and not a debate starter, then.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU'RE A MONSTER
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Oct 29, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Only if by monster
you mean truly endearing person!
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
did you share your baked goods, or not?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Sure thing
Come on over. It’s snowing. A lot.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I need a new ice scraper
the zombie special convinced me it’s a good weapon-of-choice.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
WTF Tony?
As proof of that, even with a four-run lead in Game 7, La Russa was sketching out an endgame about what to do if Motte, a right-hander, was shaky in trying to close out the game and the Rangers managed to send a few left-handed hitters to the plate. He couldn’t remember afterward if he bounced the scheme off Pettini or Dave Duncan, his pitching coach, but La Russa’s plan was to move Motte from the mound to the outfield, bring in left-handed reliever Marc Rzepczynski to pitch to the Rangers’ left-handers, then bring Motte back to pitch to the right-handers.
Basically TLR was ready to put a blind pitcher in the outfield last night.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
This surprises you?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Well, I've always assumed
that there’s a limit to his insanity somewhere. Apparently not.
Of course, I wouldn’t put it past him to be trolling either.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
if TLR puts lohse in LF
TLR will do anything.
THEY DID IT FOR TORTY! 2011 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!
twitter
If it had worked
TLR = genius!
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Oct 29, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And then the circle would have been completed.
And TLR-is-not-Whitey crowd would have been sated.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I think Lou Piniella pulled that a couple of years ago against the Cards
With Sean Marshall in the outfield.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
luckily Motte made sure nobody had to worry about that.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I love the conversation between TLR and Dunc yesterday morning.
"I said ‘How about the alternatives?"’ La Russa said on the field after the clincher. ‘He said, ‘Are you kidding? It’s Chris Carpenter.’ And he hung up on me."
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 29, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I thought they banned you
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Freaking Virtual Waiting Room
I finally get in select 2 tickets for best available option and get
Tickets are not available together in the quantity you requested in this section at this time. Please try a different section, or fewer tickets.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
Me too. Pretty sure its sold out
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 29, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
at least give me a flash game of "whack the LaRussa pinata" while I wait
but no, I wait get that beautiful popup, and BAM, sold out.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright
who’s running the Torty and Rally Squirrel accounts?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
Hahahah I read your name as a reply
Is that on purpose?
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, anybody know....
….where to find audio from ESPN’s Schulman from Game 6 for the Freese triple, homer and Berkman single?
Do you mean Mike Shannon's calls, instead?
Get up baby, get up baby, get up, Oh Yeah, David Freese has just sent us into game number 7 ….
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Following up on the Fanpost I did a while back about VEB playoff predictions
(original Fanpost here), in the final analysis two VEBers called all seven series correctly: tomsteele and JStymie. For their accomplishments they win absolutely nothing. At the other end, Willie McGee’s Twin brought up the rear by calling only one of seven series correctly (he was undone by missing three of four LDS). Here are the overall results:
tomsteele 7
JStymie 7
cj2k 6
hr 5
a fink 5
Pegasus 5
jacksonian 5
I-Musial-ly-Am 5
hangingfromatree 4
BTown 3
guayzimi 3
matt man 3
SecondHalfMatt 3
WyoCardsFan 3
lightbulb 3
zoomzoomj88 2
TBender 2
Willie McGee’s Twin 1
Of course we all win by getting to watch one of the greatest two months of baseball ever culminating in one of the greatest World Series ever culminating in the Birds’ 11th championship, which I imagine is good enough for everyone.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 29, 2011 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
Between this and WMT's poor-showing in my mid-season predictions contest,
I think I might need to stop trusting his analysis…
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
i don't even remember doing this!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So did something big happen in St. Louis last night?
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 29, 2011 5:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, six was a serious number - you can get 25 cent sodas and coffees today!!
Other than that, not much.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 29, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Damn
Why do I have to live over 200 miles away. I want my cheap drinks.
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 29, 2011 5:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
People were mad that the Blues lost to the Flames
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
When the Birds won in 2006, MLB Audio/TV subscribers could download video files
of all the clinching games in their entirety. I don’t suppose they’re doing that this year…? I can’t find anything about it.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 29, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
why don't you just rab whatever games you want from
here
no registration required to get the torrents and download the games
win
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
the game six link says it's only 3 hours and 44 minutes.
is it the whole game? that seems short? i guess it has commercials cut out…
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
true game time 4:33
less 20 commercial breaks each about 3 min…
i assume it’s the whole thing, russians know how to bootleg right. i haven’t seen it yet though but i bet it’s a good rip
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 29, 2011 7:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
true game time 4:33
less 20 commercial breaks each about 3 min…
i assume it’s the whole thing, russians know how to bootleg right. i haven’t seen it yet though but i bet it’s a good rip
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 29, 2011 7:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Let's see if they re-sign Pujols first
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
Yep! Unless you're intending to give him a whole lot of credit with your sig, which is how it currently looks!
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Fire TLR?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I just got back home from Game 7.
Physically and financially wiped out, but very, very happy.
That was quite the thing they all did.
by Pegasus on Oct 29, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
there was definite thingdooery involved.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 29, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
superlative
it had the dizzying highs, the terrifying lows, and precious little of the creamy middle
The St. Louis Redbird thrill ride, featuring the highest highs and the lowest lows. And, of course, not recommended for those with heart disease or high blood pressure. Must be in good health to experience this attraction.
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Winner
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Youneverknow.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 29, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Guys.....
It literally will never get better than this. Ever. Unless we are 30 games out with 30 to play and we strikeout twice in Game 7 of the World Series for the final out only to have the catcher miss the ball and reach first base, this is the highest point we can ever hope for.
Everything else will feel great, don’t get me wrong but we just witnessed probably they greatest 2 month stretch in the history of Cardinals baseball, dramatically speaking.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 29, 2011 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I am so grateful to have been able to see the magical run we all witnessed.
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
HOLY CRAP WE WON THE WORLD SERIES
Boog would have made that play.
by thepainguy on Oct 29, 2011 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Best post-season run, EVER!
Ive been watching baseball for 30 years and never saw a run like this! Go Cards for life! Most exciting World Series since 86’!
Re-sign Furcal and Craig at 2B?
Furcal
Craig
Pujols
Freese
Holiday
Berkman
Molina
Jay
P
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Oct 29, 2011 6:22 PM EDT reply actions
not sure what i feel about furcal.
it’s awesome having defense at the position but he may be too expensive.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
He had a pretty bad year overall
I don’t think it would cost more than 5 million. We can afford to bump payroll up a little bit – the WS adds quite a bit of revenue.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
if we can get furc for that much, no more than a couple years, i'd sign off
not sure that’s all it would take, though. he’s a “name,” and not all GMs are very smart.
incredible
making the trip was a close call, because $$$$$$, but how many chances do you get in your life to see your team play a game 7?
I mean he's 34
He had a miserable year overall and was awful in the playoffs. I’m not sure he’d get much more than 1/5 for a half season of average hitting with the Cards.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
His bad year overall was influenced by injury.
And a ridiculously unlucky BABIP. He had a wOBAr of .378 with the Cards.
Depending on the price of course, I’d bring him back and do a Descalso/Greene platoon at 2B.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 29, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No I think he's good
I just don’t think his price will be very high.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 30, 2011 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions
5?
the guy hit .125 in the ws and not much better overall
with his injury histpry, i don’t think he will get anywhere near that
and if someone does pay that, they are a little dim
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I don't think anyone will be valuing him based on the WS of lasers hit at Adrian Beltre
He’s definitely getting 5M at the absolute cheapest IMO. He was a 4-win player in 2010. His approach was still there and while his batted ball profile did change, a whole lot of his crappy 2011 is BABIP sucked (.240?).
Not afraid to nitpick
Hit at or hit NEAR Beltre.
Beltre fields everything in a 50 ft radius, I swear.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we get real middle infielders please?
Seriously, please, can we???
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
who do you suggest?
those are tough positions to fill, there is a reason we have had a revolving door at second for so many years.
True. I know, I'm far too tipsy to make real suggestions.
But I really would like real middle infielders, ftr.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Like 2013 at the earliest.
Starting year at High A Palm Beach. Should finish in AA. Starts 2013 in AAA hopefully, and gets promoted to MLB in May (thus minimizing service time enough to get an extra year). That’s kind of a best-case scenario.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
sign Punto for the bench
unless they are actually going to give t. greene a shot
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe Greene is out of options
It’s now or never and I can’t imagine they would just punt a perfectly viable backup MIFer.
Not afraid to nitpick
but would they punt punto?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 30, 2011 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Craig
I am more concerned about getting Craig into the lineup every day. He needs to play every day somewhere. Frankly, I’d rather see him in LF and give Pujols some of Holiday’s money. Don’t crucify me – I know Holiday is a great hitter and presence in the lineup. I am just thinking. And drinking.
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Oct 29, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
5 more years of team control.
He’ll get his shot, but it just might not be next year.
Having him as depth/super PH/Berkman caddy is not a bad thing at all. Even assuming Pujols re-signs, I bet there are 400 PAs for Craig somewhere.
Okay
But it seems wrong that Skip, Theriot, Punto, or anyone of their ilk should get more ABs than Craig. And I don’t remember the last time I used the word “ilk.”
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Oct 29, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think you CAN give pujols some of holliday's money
since baseball contracts are guaranteed. plus, holliday is very good. i’d play craig at second, and if his bat continues, his defense will be bearable.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I am fine
actually great with Craig at 2B and Holiday in LF. But can Craig play 2B and will TLR let him, given his love for Skippy?
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." - Annie Savoy
by redbirdbluedevil on Oct 29, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
skip is gone.
he’s a free agent. we won’t re-sign him.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Yea, sadly, he'll probably be back and given a raise.
Who knows, maybe he’ll be non-tendered.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
haha can the cardinals decline arbitration?
come on skip, go free yourself. i thought there was a discussion of fare-thee-well-skippy back a couple of days ago. i remember bgh chimed in.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
It says 3rd year arb on Cott's.
But they can decline arb. Idk that they will though, especially if Tony is back. At best they non-tender him and then re-sign like they did with Miles a while back.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not fine with Craig at all at second
Last time we moved an outfielder to second, it sucked.
Grit != flat out sucking.
but we moved an average hitter, who became a bad hitter, to 2B last time
this time, it’s what looks like a very good hitter.
craig may just be a worse defender too
Lets instead sign a real second baseman.
Grit != flat out sucking.
here's the list:
Clint Barmes HOU
Willie Bloomquist ARI *
Orlando Cabrera CLE
Robinson Cano NYY *
Jamey Carroll LAD
Luis Castillo NYM
Alex Cora WAS
Craig Counsell MIL
Mark Ellis OAK
Carlos Guillen DET
Jerry Hairston Jr. MIL
Aaron Hill ARI *
Omar Infante FLA
Joe Inglett HOU
Kelly Johnson TOR
Adam Kennedy SEA
Felipe Lopez TB
Jose Lopez FLA
Aaron Miles LAD
Brandon Phillips CIN *
Strike Cano and Phillips, obviously. It’s slim pickins. My vote is Kelly Johnson, but my back-up vote is Craig unless and until a month of play proves he absolutely can’t hack it there.
these are free-agents?
does it include players with options?
also, what’s a good park adjusted hitting stat i could use to evaluate cano? he’s a really interesting player. would he hit well in st louis?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
yeah, that's the cot's list
asterisks for options, whether (i think) player or team. cano’s is team — he’s not going to be available.
aw, fuck.
okay. thanks. they’ll pick that up for sure. is phillips a team option?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
so i guess the question is
whether or not craig is worth more than 2 WAR at second.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i think he'd have to be REALLY bad defensively not to be.
it’s possible that he is in fact that bad, though. i just want to find out instead of signing some chump.
i dunno, if i’m moze i’d probably re-up punto as a utility IF and defensive caddy, hope for the best with craig there, and resign myself to the fact that you might have to turn the starting 2B job over to him at some point. it’s not that much worse than the other available options.
encouraging example:
Dan Uggla’s wRC+ this year was only 109. His UZR was -12.2 (that’s Schumaker-bad).
fWAR: 2.5
allen craig 2011 wRC+: 158
one fifty fucking eight. stick that bat at second and let’s win some slugfests.
don't know if he does that again,
but yeah. this answers my question. craig at second works.
i know UZR is questionable, but uggla is pretty fucking bad at defense
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
on second though,
this doesn’t mesh well with duncan’s pitch to contact strategy, so we’ll see.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
right, i don't see that either over a full season
but even so — if he can be an above-average hitter playing just acceptably-awful defense…
He probably won't play 2B every day anyway.
Gets time in corner OF spots for sure.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey!
Aaron Miles is free!
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Yea but it was really bad idea.
I mean, I’d totally rather have Craig than Skip, but still … no.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
craig's and schumaker's offensive skill-set
has almost no overlap. craig would be a good value at second base.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I wouldn't think he'd be anything close to a regular infielder
But if he played a game or two a week at 2b/3b and a couple games in the outfield per week, he’d get about 400+ AB
by olddomination on Oct 29, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I would really, really like to see Craig given at least as much of a shot to stick at 2B as Schumaker got.
No clue what the org’s thinking is on that. Some may depend on who is managing.
I agree.
His offense would more than make up for some below avg defense at 2nd. it would be great with Furcal back at SS also, or it would even give us some flexibility if we wanted to go with an all glove SS like Ryan Jackson. At the very least, if Skip comes back Craig should platoon at 2nd v LHP. Schu should never start v lefties. If Craig can stay healthy, there should be plenty of ABs between OF and 2nd.
by mick311 on Oct 29, 2011 7:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
New sig test!
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
CATFIGHT!
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's in my sig already...I win.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 29, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
GDM might fight you to have his babies though
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It took me a very long time to figure out what this meant.
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You're going to have gdm's babies, didn't you hear?
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
This is what I thought.
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Ha, I meant Freese's babies
Not the hedgehog or porcupine or whatever that is, haha.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
aw snap
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You get pretty aggressive when it comes to Freese
I haven’t seen one calm response
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He's my future husband and he's a baseball player.
I need to start practicing defending him from others.
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I'll get behind your future marriage
if you promise to invite me to the wedding. I want to party with some effing world champions!
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
What'll you do if a bro comes at you though?
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
....

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 29, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
um, i'm pretty sure i called dibs on that at the beginning of the season
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 29, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Also I asked, and you didn't answer...so you lost your chance.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 29, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
What about the heart?
Whenever I zoomed through a thread I could tell when CG posted
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't wnat to have ten thousand things in my sig.
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Is this better?
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Why didn't it show up?
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It won't let me put it back in.
Sorry. I guess it’s an SBN thing or something.
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I keep trying to change my sig but it isn't working
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it will work tomorrow.
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try the symbol itself or the html code for the symbol
would've.
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I can’t change mine at all.
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by The Continental on Oct 29, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The changes have been made and will show up later.
Been that way for a couple of weeks.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 29, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
it will not let me change my signature
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It takes a while for your changes to register. Goes for avatars as well.
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usually it changes right away after I save at the profile page
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, but lately it's been screwing up, like the rec thing
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 29, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions
Why does MLB.com have us as suitors for Jose Reyes?
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
we need a short-stop.
if we don’t get pujols we have quite a bit of cash to go after another top-tier free agent.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I just cant/ dont want to imagine us not signing Pujols
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
fine
Then he signs a one year deal to get a ring and make big bucks next year.
Grit != flat out sucking.
That would be so awesome
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
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yeah, he'd be in right
and berkman would be at first. i would really prefer albert stay, though.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Albert!
must stay. If I have a choice, I take Albert over all the other options. GO CARDS!!!
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by redbirdbluedevil on Oct 29, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
For 2012 it might actually be the best distribution of money/talent given our current strengths
You could even sign Furcal to play 2B and still have the money to sign say Mike Gonzalez as another LH reliever. Reyes, Craig, Berkman, Holliday, Freese, Molina, Furcal, Jay—-Wainwright, Carp, Garcia, Lohse, Westbrook (Miller)—-Motte, Sanchez, Salas, Gonzalez, Lynn, Boggs, Scrabble. That’s still a stacked team.
But that’s just rosterbation, winning the WS has completely changed the Pujols discussion. It’s 100% impossible for him to pull the “winning” card, and I don’t see him wanting to be seen as chasing the money so long as the Cards offer is in the same ballpark as the FA offers.
Not afraid to nitpick
Yeah
I don’t think Pujols is gonna wanna sign elsewhere though. WS win is as good as it gets, and we should have great team next year. And we have a good farm system.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah. i mean, this makes sense.
but it’s really hard for me to judge how much of his attempted nonchalance is actually him not wanting to stay with the cardinals that much and how much of it is his PR so that he keeps his market value high. i mean, if he came out and said “i want to stay here”, i think the offers he got would drop.
anyway. i’m also wondering how much his ego was bruised by the offers last off-season. there were rumours they were low-balls, and pretty severe ones too. we’ll see where we stand in a few weeks more clearly.
i have a sabr question: how much excess value has pujols provided over the length of his now-expired contract?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
that's not helpful, haha.
how much is a 1 WAR player worth on the open market? 3 million?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
yeah, that's about right
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
real answer, i don't know, and am too tired to add it up
but for whomever does, please remember to adjust $/WAR down for inflation as you go back. pretty sure you should do that on a question like this.
okay. i'm working on a couple of things.
we’ll see if i have time to polish them up for a real post at some point.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
According to FanGraphs
Since the start of the 2005 season (that’s when he signed the extension, right?), it would have cost about 230 million dollars to replace his production with free agents.
So you could say he provided about 130 million in excess value – not including playoff performance.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ok, so then add another 30 million or so, heh
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
huh, I could swear it was 6/100 with an option
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
is that what i really want to know, though?
i’m not sure, that’s why i’m asking
what i want is what pujols value was over his contract, not replacing him with free agents. would it make sense to evaluate that using his WAR over the last seven years, multiplied by what 1 WAR—on average—cost in those years, and from that total subtract $100 million?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
That's what comparing to free agents does
It would cost about 4.5 million today to get a 1 WAR player in free agency. Over the life of Pujols’ contract it would cost about 260 million (assuming clank is right) to get his WAR in free agency.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 29, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
and losano's ego and hunt for status
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
i agree
but do think some of the aforementioned examples by joker make us better?
only if the moves make us A LOT better would i agree with the shuffle
but if it only makes us a little better, same, or is a cheaper option….id like pujols because number one: i will pay my hard earned cash to watch pujols play baseball
by guillermozeliak on Oct 30, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
reyes is all talent & no heart, he just wants to get paid, i don't want him
he takes off months of the season with those stupid f’ing hamstrings of his. and he took himself out of the last game so he could win the batting title. he’s all about himself & doesn’t care about whats best for the team. he should fit in great in bean town
Balls
Next year
The problem will be expectations. Defending a title is not an easy task. In the meantime, I’m being uncharacteristically optimistic. Pujols re-signs, we get a healthy Waino back, everything looks good on paper. Now we have to will ourselves to greatness again. Back to celebrating 2011!!!
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by redbirdbluedevil on Oct 29, 2011 6:51 PM EDT reply actions
the thing with expectations will be to remember regression and aging
like, we’re probably not getting another 5-win season out of berk, or another 250 innings out of carpenter. yadi had a career year, and it’s hard to forecast a repeat of that. holliday and pujols are both on the wrong side of 30. hell, freese is 28. etc., etc. you could argue (and i might so argue) that getting waino back only mitigates natural regression/aging of the rest of the team, rather than making us better overall.
ps: WE JUST WON THE FUCKING WORLD SERIES
so nobody, myself included, GAF about me being less than 100% optimistic about next year.
Yea, regression is a bitch when you just won the world series.
But having a healthy Pujols/Holliday/Craig/Wainwright/Freese, maybe a real SS for more than 2 months, no Franlinsteintistas, etc. could offset that.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Motte > Franklin alone probably negates the regression of those guys, honestly
He either took the L or blew the save that led to a loss 6 times!!!! March 31, April 8th, April 9th, April 17th, May 1st and June 1st, not to mention how he murdered win probability in the games he didn’t strictly blow. He managed to not suck in games that we won only twice.
Having one of the worst pitcher performances in the big leagues during 10ish highly leveraged situations has a pretty big effect.
Not afraid to nitpick
WPA -2.82, so that's like 3 more wins at least I would hope.
But those IPs likely get replaced by El Guardo, Zep-Lynn, and The Reifer (I’m hopeful on that front), so hopefully it’s even better than that.
Pretty sure Batista somehow managed a positive WPA though. I know that makes no sense, but yea, it happened.
We did have a relatively healthy rotation ALL YEAR though. Carp, Jaime, Lohse, W-B, and K-Mac/EdwinNOW were all healthy like all year long. That helps out a lot.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The high leverage innings that Franklin pitched would get replaced by Motte
And the lower leveraged innings that Motte pitched would get replaced by Salynnchezynski etc, who are all actually good as well. Replacing Franklin’s TESSing with that chaining is legitimately like 4 actual wins.
Relievers, how do they work?
Not afraid to nitpick
I'll trust your math on that.
I definitely think there’s room to repeat with Pujols back. Not a lock, but definitely room to be reasonably optimistic.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
plus i wouldnt be suprised if
zep, motte, sanchez, lynn struggle (any sort of combination you want…obv worst case would be all 4)
with today’s scouting they just can find the littlest of edge to break a ball player and now that we the champs we’re under a microscope
by guillermozeliak on Oct 30, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahem
WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Little did I realize that when I bought this I'd be drinking it this year

I didn’t expect that we’d win the series this summer when I threw down on this bottle. The Wine and Cheese store told me it may last 6-7yrs if properly kept. I figured I had a decent window since I was only going to drink it if they won. Well tonight I’m drinking it as my victory drink
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 29, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
the last month and a bit has been beyond incredible
St. Louis Cardinals Champions of the motherfucking world. motherfucker.
so, what do you want to talk about?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
YES.
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Whoa whoa whoa
No debate starting, didn’t you hear?
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
it's going to be a lot.
and i think it’s going to be too much.
these are not specific thoughts.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Not a chance he's been too inconsistent and/or injured
Holliday’s contract is probably about the ballpark unless the Nationals or someone Werths him for some stupid reason.
Not afraid to nitpick
yeah, probably.
he just keeps popping out 6-win seasons when he’s healthy, though. such a tantalizing talent.
That's what Holliday did, except consistently
There’s absolutely no reason to give Reyes more money than Holliday got on a long term deal……there hasn’t been much salary inflation and Holliday was a better bet.
I’d personally try to get creative with Reyes. Mental masturbation: 3y/60M + a 1y/20M player option after 3 years if he gets 600 PAs in any season (and say 300+ PAs in 2014) + 1y/20M added for additional 600 PA seasons (potentially creating a 3y/60M player option) vs. a 2y/30M team option (3M buyout) if he fails to reach 600 PAs in any season on the original 3 years.
For Reyes: guarantees him 21M a year, but could run up to 6/120 or has the upside to opt out after 3 years. For team: shorter term guarantee.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 29, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that would be an awesome contract.
great idea.
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not only that but i really just don't see
him maintaining his offensive production after the next couple years, even if he doe stay healthy. i know that’s a pretty unscientific analysis.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
$25 million AAV?
No fuckin way. Dude is constantly injured. No way he breaks $20 mill. $15 million AAV maybe, over like four or five. More than that just isn’t worth it. Maybe if one team (not us) decides they HAVE to have him. No way he gets a Zito/Soriano contract.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Next season is going to be so awesome
hearing us being referred to as defending champs every single game. what a ride.
Oh man, that is just the cherry on top
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
I hope Albert is there as well in red, not blue
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i can't believe that is all going to happen like this week.
we have the 5 day exclusive negotiating period starting sunday, then he’s a free agent. (right?)
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by TBender on Oct 29, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Did you hear
the Cardinals are 2011 world champions.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I totally want a Cardinals World Champions cap
but it costs $14 to get it shipped over here. Worth it?
Also which one? gotta be this one right

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I like the one they wore on the field
but I’d buy this one – if that makes any sense
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm getting the one they wore on the field
I just hope it fits my large head.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 29, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Because you're second half Matt Holliday?
And he has a huge head?
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt my dome is as big as Matt Holliday's
But its not easy finding hats. The one size fits most scares me
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 29, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m not comforted by “one size fits most” I wear a size 8 59FIFTY
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, no. That one they wore on the field is ugly.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 30, 2011 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I tend to think a lot of those "official" articles of clothing for stuff is ugly
Because there is a lot of flash and noisy logos. I actually kind of dig the t-shirt because I think the logo is classy, but I didn’t like those hats.
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If you’ve decided on a cap, then it’s totally worth it.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Aranathor, I need a link to this cap
ASAP.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 30, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Never mind, found it.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 30, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions
how could would this team have been with Adam Wainwright and not so many GIDPs??
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions
Win the division...
get swept by Arizona. Brewers ride the wave to a historic season…
Thank god that ligament snapped…
by guayzimi on Oct 29, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm totally watching 2006 NLCS Game 5 right now.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
Game 7 is better.
What happened in Game 5. Seriously forgot — Game 7 destroyed all other NLCS memories.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, but i'm watching from the beginning
(of my DVD set). Game 5 is the first game in it.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't wait to buy the World Series on Bluray
I’m hoping it’ll fit on one disc
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 29, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
They don't offer it like that, do they?
and if they did, wouldn’t it have to be on like 4 blu-rays to maintain quality?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 29, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I just have the SI WS commemorative DVD thingy
narrated by what’s his face. Billy Bob Thornton
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I have that set too.
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There's one thing wrong about that set:
The lack of NLCS Game 2. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Hot stove here we come...
Sign Oswalt 2/16
Sign Sizemore 1/8 with a $13 million team option
Sign Furcal 1/8 or 2/12
Find someone to give us a few million for Westbrook
Non-tender everyone that can’t throw a baseball 99 mph
Resign Skip for mascot purposes
Sign Pujols or don’t
Burhle or Oswalt would probably take a discount to sign with us
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
They'd have to take a FAT discount to justify signing to be the 4th best starter
And even then it’d be questionable. If they sign Pujols, there just isn’t room for them unless payroll goes to 130M. By my count they have 86M locked in before accounting for a 1B (or RF), 2B, SS, 2 bench spots and 2 relief spots. Signing Pujols is gonna push that into the 111M range and I’d rather they not go into the year with Greene and Descalso as the starting MIF.
Not afraid to nitpick
Oh, I agree with you. I just would like them to bump up payroll.... but wouldn't we all
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
no place in the rotation
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish we would dump Westbrook and Lohse
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
seemed to work out ok
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, yes this year it worked out and I wouldn't have wanted anything changed
but I don’t think my heart could handle them pitching another season for us, even though Lohse at times pitched very well.
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
I don't think Lohse is that awful.
Could even repeat this year with a real infield defense behind him.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
lohse was good this year and westbrook sucked
probably going to be more normal next year (regression by both to the mean)
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Lohse pitching against an offense like the Rangers or the Brewers is never going to be easy though
especially in the postseason
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
Yeah I just looked at his numbers and they aren’t bad at all. I guess the horridness of the contract we gave him clouds my judgement of him. That being said, get rid of Westy.
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
We already have like 6+ starters guys.
Waino-Carp-Jaime-Lohse-WB-Lynn-Zep-Miller-Cleto
Like seven of those are already major league level starters.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I was more or less just going off of what guayzimi said. But yeah I know.
I hope we keep Lynn in the pen, Zep I have mixed feelings about where he fits best. Miller would be June, and probably start in the pen. Can Cleto really start??
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
Well, I put Cleto last for a reason.
But he’s doing so-so in AAA and still has that upside, I think. But I’m higher on him than most I think. Point is we’re deep with potential rotation guys.
Personally I’d rather put Lynn in the rotation than Zep. We need a guy to shut down lefties. If we were that thin in the rotation, I’d be all for moving Zep there, but as deep as we are, I’d think he’s the last guy to get moved given our lack of bullpen lefties.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Swagerty a Bullpen only guy??
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
No, but he ended the year relieving in AA.
They shifted him to the bullpen to save his arm for the rest of the 2011 season. I don’t think he’ll be able to start in the majors this year. I’d imagine he’d be behind Cleto, without assuming any steps forward for Cleto.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
awesome that way i can show you all up with my buehrle bobblehead
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 29, 2011 8:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Re-sign Pujols for sure
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
Neyer on Dave Duncan and Carp:
Carpenter looked shaky again in the top of the second. Mike Napoli led off with a single, and was replaced on first base when David Murphy hit into a fielder’s choice. Ian Kinsler walked.
At which point, the second non-playing character in our little drama took the stage. Out of the dugout popped Dave Duncan, arguably the greatest pitching coach in pitching-coach history. We don’t yet know what Duncan said to Carpenter, but presumably the subject of curveballs came up; Carpenter had not, to that point, thrown any of them.
Duncan trotted back to the dugout, Carpenter started mixing the occasional curveball into his repertoire, and from that moment until the top of the seventh inning, Carpenter allowed only two runners to reach first base. Neither of them scored.
I have to wonder about his arm
Or elbow or whatever, if he wasn’t trying to throw it because it hurt. If so, all the more props to Carp…
Halladay better f'n carry the bait bucket
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
me neither.
i’m tinkering a lot. i’d love a FO job, but i don’t think i’m good enough.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I loves me some Jonah Keri...
When not continuing his run at playoff swearing records, Carpenter came up big, plowing through six innings and 91 pitches on just three days rest.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarp!!11
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
11
I see what you did there.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
11th inning walkoff, too!
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 29, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
wow!
forgot about that… great year!
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
my fanshot has some of the 11s
the Missourinet link has a whole bunch of them.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what date does free agency start?
watching already as options declined and other picked up…
Aaron cook and seizmore declined..
Giambi and carmona excersised.
Seizmore is injury prone, maybe they could give incentive laden deal?
because TLR
Who cares? They'll resign Pujols by then.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you're right and that he doesn't "test the waters"
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
he will "test the waters"
it guarantees the cardinals will offer him as good a contract as they possibly can.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
my big free agent storyline is will skip depart or not
I’m sure he’ll be back… but I hope it is at a minimal capacity
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 29, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Two weeks from today is the end of the FA exclusivity window.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I may have to wtch Leno for once
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 29, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure whether I can take that hit; but I'll try.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
Just wait until it is on hulu
Then you can just watch the one section of his interview.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 29, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
you guys
Jeanine Duncan was at the game on Friday
per Bernie
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Is she doing better?
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
i need to close this tab
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
spoiler alert! the end of the horror movie!
It’s a little 28 Days Later and a little The Birds
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
FWIW, (Real) BCB has been giving the Cards their props today.
They still hate the Cards, but they can’t deny what was a great series and a great story. There’s a surprising amount of respect for the Cards over there right now.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 29, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
Pujols bait.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Awesome view
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=2655396
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
by cj2k on Oct 29, 2011 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Damn, this video is awesome but the video after is better
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
only works with Troy Glaus so dang tall. and also, he's a real third baseman.
video is linked above, btw.
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
time to read up on uniform geekery!
http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Blogs/2011%20October.htm
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what!
The Authentics Store had Kyle Lohse’s broken bat (two pieces) from game 4 of the NLCS for $200. It was a natural Rawlings Chris Carpenter model.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Carp has his name on Lohse's bats? lol
you’d think Kyle would be able to afford his own
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 29, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i know this is shocking and scandalous
but a lot of times
they share bats
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn it was great to wake up this morning knowing you team are the World Series
Champions.. Make my workout must more better, and just finished making a huge pot of post Cardinal victory Chili..
by Tuning in from Korea on Oct 29, 2011 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
if there were more people on, would be asking for the recipe sooner or later
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
would it be too much of the schadenfreude to request an animated gif of Cruz's misplay. misplays?
I mean, our collection just seems incomplete without them. no offense to Rangers fans.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Thats what I like about Chili it's
one of the easiest things to make and each time I make it I’m always tinkering or tweaking it.
by Tuning in from Korea on Oct 29, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
aha
yeah, I cook like that a lot. I have to watch that habit while baking, i’ve gotten my proportions screwed up
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Dotel is such a card
Dotel couldn’t stop celebrating. Bottle after bottle he shook, popped the cork, sprayed it toward Pujols and repeated the derisive nickname Milwaukee outfielder Nyjer Morgan(notes) tagged him with this summer:
"Alberta! Alberta! Albertita!"
I do wish we could have him back next year
by hr on Oct 29, 2011 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Well written collection of stories by Passan
He wouldn’t stop. Nothing was off-limits here, not in the haze of a championship. As Pujols’ eyes burned and twitched to blink the drink out of them, Dotel kept squirting, yelling, laughing.
"He’s a free agent!" Dotel said. "Alberta! Say hello to my little friend!"
by hr on Oct 29, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we've linked that 3x
if RiverRat weren’t banned, he might have words with us
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
withdrawal?
I can’t believe there’s nothing baseball going on. in this country.
well, I guess there’s Japan.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Really wish I had MLBN again.
Baseball always being on and all that.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 29, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
they were replaying the whole run
):
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
nlcs game 5 right now
garcia’s about to get pulled
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Korean Series going on. Samsung Lions vs Sk Wyverns
In the 7 game series, Samsung Lions are up 3 games to 1 for SK.
by Tuning in from Korea on Oct 29, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, the East Coasters might be snowed in
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not dead yet.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
undead, then?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He's going with the zombie meme...
duh
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
i love this design
but would rather not have it in a shirt
also, Cardinals holiday merchandise confuses me at first glance
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I saw that and really liked it.
Might have to buy the shirt anyways.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
doing my part to encourage the making of pies.
you like delicious pie, don’t you Albert???
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
not to start anything but
there are a lot of iPod covers.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently Mike Gonzalez had torn his meniscus in his knee late this season
he pitched through it during the playoffs, but it gave out last night. Here’s to hoping he recovers fully in the offseason.
what the heck is with us and opponents during clinching games?
geez, that’s really creepy. i mean, we’re kidding about the horror movie, really we are.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that is really bizarre.
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
I have to wonder
If playing all those games just takes its toll. It’s a miracle Carp lasted the whole season, IMHO.
Fanshot review
2011, presented in chart form.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I think my brain just melted looking at that...
There’s a lot going on in that thing…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
and the way they convey information isn't intuitive
or intuitive. it’s still a pretty looking chart, though.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Where is everyone?
I’m sad and need cheering up!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
Sorry about your team, they had a good run
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
You act as if the season is over.
We play Wake and NC State next. We were never going to the National Championship. Our highest goal was an undefeated season and the ACC Championship and Orange Bowl. 2 out of 3 of those are still in the picture. And from the start GT was going to be a tough game. When you play fake football it is hard to beat you.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 30, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
But they never pass...
when you only have to defend the run it seems like it should be easier. At least you didn’t lose by donking it off the upright.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
We can't defend the run.
Don’t get me wrong. Clemson played bad. Very bad. But I hate the triple option and I have always hated GT and now I hate them even more.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 30, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I was talking about the undefeated run.
Sammy Watkins and Tahj Boyd are absolute studs.
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
I have been nervous about this game all season.
GT just knows how to beat us. The ACC Championship (if we make it) would be hard too because it will be either GT or VT. We’ve already beaten VT and it’s hard to beat a team twice, especially when they have been improving since they lost and we can’t beat GT.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 30, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I am so nervous about LSU's game next week.
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
I am not speaking to you anymore.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 30, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha, sorry, but I go there
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
I hope y'all lose.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 30, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Because it doesn't matter.
We all know it’s Bama and LSU in the National Championship so this game is meaningless.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 30, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope it's not Bama vs LSU in the national championship.
Regardless of whether we win or lose, an undefeated Boise State should get a shot. Assuming Oklahoma State loses.
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
I hope it's not either.
But we all know it will be. And a Boise State vs. LSU/Bama game would be incredibly boring for anyone not cheering for the SEC.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 30, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but they deserve the chance.
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
I want the whole BCS system to be blown up.
So I’m for whatever makes that happen quickest.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 30, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too. Playoffs FTW
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
Undefeated teams should be able to defend the run.
Call me old fashioned.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Well that's why we're not undefeated!
And it’s not a straight run.
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I understand...
It’s like how Illinois can’t defend football plays… it gets frustrating.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Our defense is extremely inconsistent.
And it seems to me very emotional. If anything goes the slightest bit bad they seem to fall apart. They’re young though. The next few years should be fun.
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Halloween Saturday...
probably out being debaucherous…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
...

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 30, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Awwwwwwwwwww
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 30, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
new and improved!
http://www.sporcle.com/games/g/worldseriesmvps
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 30, 2011 12:03 AM EDT reply actions
first time I've had time to stop in all day. All I can say is:
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
ot powerball
11 16 40 51 56 38
Start with 11 add 5 because that’s the years since last ws. Pick random starting number 40 add 11 get 51 plus 5 is 56. 3 plus 8 equals 11. Damn I wish I’d played tonight.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 30, 2011 12:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
'44 browns-cardinals ws highlights on mlbn
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
another 11
La Russa’s first championship was 22 years ago
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i am watching the 10th inning of game 6 for the 2nd time today.1
just doesn’t get old.
by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 30, 2011 12:40 AM EDT reply actions
Man, LSB really, really wants Darvish.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions
zombie special on now on History !
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Im unpacking today
My Carp bobblehead even has a look to it like even it doesn’t give a fuck. I’m thinking of putting it in the basement bc I fear it will intimidate guests.
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 30, 2011 1:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
what i wanna know
who is the fan who acquired a squirrel and pelted the bullpen with it in Philadelphia
would've.
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NYT
The finale was Chris Carpenter’s finest moment, a 1-0, three-hit shutout on the road against Roy Halladay. The relievers never left the bullpen that night, although a visitor did tumble in.
It was a stuffed squirrel, tossed to the Cardinals’ relievers by a fan and retrieved by Octavio Dotel. The game before, in St. Louis, an actual squirrel had darted across the plate, distracting the Phillies’ Roy Oswalt while he threw a pitch. Dotel adopted the stuffed version for good luck, giving it a home in his locker and toasting it with his teammates during Sunday’s celebration.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I always love that one.
How the hell did the squirrel distract Oswalt when the ball was in the catcher’s mitt before the damn squirrel ran across the plate? that just cracks me up.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it's a dog toy
Target sells them, they are really natural looking squirrels (except for a squeaker in the tail). My dogs loved them when they were younger.
Need baseball?
Climax Series Pacific League Stage 1, Game 2
Lions @ Fighters
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 1:22 AM EDT reply actions
This stadium has, like, 16' walls.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
The Climax Series?
Sounds like somebody’s honeymoon.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Fighters' lefty giving up long, loud outs
but in a stadium this big, NBD.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
How big you think that field is?
my screen’s jumping too much to get a real good idea.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Fairly typical field dimensions, with a monstrous wall.
Left Field – 100 m (328.1 ft)
Center Field – 122 m (400.3 ft)
Right Field – 100 m (328.1 ft)
Height of Outfield Fence – 5.75 m (18.9 ft)
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks.
that’s not too bad. But there’s no cheap HRs for sure. You gotta bust the shit out of it to clear that wall.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, hey, that was Micah Hoffpauir
grounding out for the Fighters.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
HFS! It's a Hoffpauir!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Soft tossing lefty. Funky delivery.
An NL Central team should sign this guy to throw against the Cards.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
= no-hit shutout
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
What a freaking throw
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
I love all the crowd rituals they do in Japan.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
It's kinda like European soccer match.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
They're so synchronized!
The best Americans can pull off is the wave.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
okay, after about five minutes of watching this,
i love it. we need to make something like this happen in the mlb.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
it's the asian mindset
don’t be the one to fuck up. Americans couldn’t care less.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
this makes me love America. Even more.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
I like the way you can do a pop-out and adjust the size of the window with Justin.tv.
Get with it MLB.tv.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
not by a long shot
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
by the look on his coach's face
he’s gonna get an ass chewing later.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Inaba is not Freese
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
I'm trying to listen to this with my headphones on
not knowing what they’re saying is starting to fuck with me.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I just pretend it's Al and tune it out.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
heh
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
the batters all have that same Ichiro swing
It’s really different from our general swing
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Warning track fly outs are much less dramatic here.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
well fuck, you gotta hit the thing another 30 feet to get a HR.
otherwise it’s just a really long double.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Fat guy trying to score!!!!!
Denied!!!!!!!!!
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
that was impressive
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
dude went ass over tea kettle
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Homerun Hoffpauir
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
Just re watched the key moments of game 6 on dvr for like the 8th time today
that freese double is in my top 3 moments in sports history of my life. maybe number 1
Over Mary Lou Retton?
Really?
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
good times!
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 30, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
additionally, the umpire hand gestures aren't exactly the same.
“out” seems to be any general lifting on one hand, and doesn’t need a clenched fist (this one’s for spants).
“safe” is any outstretched motion, often repeated three to four times in rapid succession.
also, brock is fucking stealing bases all over the place and bob gibson is doing what he does (throwing complete games).
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 30, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, Brock was running in Matrix-vision compared to everybody else.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
and rec'd.
too bad that one went unnoticed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 30, 2011 2:09 AM EDT reply actions
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 30, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's what you have to do to hit one out of there.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:11 AM EDT reply actions
he tagged the shit out of it
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was a pretty swing
on a low and away pitch.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
You remember when we got Horner in 88?
That was the year after he hit 31 HRs in Japan.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I do.
Didn’t quite have anything left to do that against MLB pitchers by then. But that was a different era of NPB baseball too, I guess.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
he only played 60 games before he got hurt.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I couldn't recall if he was used as a spare part or got hurt.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
he never got back. retired in 89
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Fighters lost the first game with Darvish starting.
This is only a best of 3, so their backs are against the wall here.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:16 AM EDT reply actions
FWIW, 90 mph is about 145 kph.
I haven’t seen anything close to that.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:22 AM EDT reply actions
kinda gives a whole different perspective compared to what we're used to
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
nifty little pickoff
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:26 AM EDT reply actions
Shoot. Looked away and missed it.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
pitcher caught the runner getting an extra lead
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
these guys are the most slap-hitting dudes I've ever seen
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:33 AM EDT reply actions
Slaphitting & astroturf
welcome to 80’s baseball!
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by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
and that’s old style turf. that’s not that new shit that acts kinda like grass
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions
except that 80's baseball had a lot more base stealing
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Brian Wolfe
He made his major league debut when Alex Rodriguez of the New York Yankees may have shouted “Mine!” to distract third baseman Howie Clark from catching an easy pop fly. Clark was unable to catch the baseball because of Rodriguez and the run scored. Wolfe was charged with the run in his major league debut.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:37 AM EDT reply actions
that's pretty funny
ARod’s still a shithead though
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions
nah
that’s just good baseball. If you’re not shouting “mine” when you’re running the bases, you aren’t a team player.
Lots of things to hate A-Rod for, but that is NOT one of them.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
I'm not knocking him for it. I'm just saying that he's a shithead.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Man, that 2B was playing in Belliard territory.
Worked, though.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:40 AM EDT reply actions
The 2B has got some range.
he was clear into the OF when he caught that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:40 AM EDT reply actions
I'm slightly disappointed that there aren't any commercials in this
but it does keep the game moving along.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:43 AM EDT reply actions
The Fighter's manager looks like he's just a guy taking in a ballgame.
The Lion’s manager looks like he’s getting a rectal exam.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:44 AM EDT reply actions
You'd think that a guy that could throw 95+
with any kind of a decent breaking ball/change up would just own this league.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:47 AM EDT reply actions
Sounds like Darvish, so yeah, pretty much.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
So Darvish is basically going to be about average over here?
That’s the problem with taking players from asian countries, there is such a wide disparity between there and here. Central and South America is pretty much the same as here so not as much of a leap.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently his breaking stuff can be just nasty.
But yeah, that translation is a dice roll. The big diff is that Japan players generally come over and go straight to MLB. Latin American players usually go through the minors where the bad ones get weeded out and the good ones get fine-tuned.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions
We'll see.
I thought the Sox were crazy to put out 60 mil just for the rights to talk to Matsusaka. He’s been pretty good, but I wouldn’t have put out that kind of cash just for the rights to negotiate. Don’t they have to play like 7 years over there before they can come over here?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I realize they didn't have to pay it out necessarily
but they committed that much before any negotiations took place.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the high posting fees really make it a crazy gamble.
Dice K- 10.6 fWAR over 5 seasons.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions
was that an actual fee?
Or was it just that they committed that much to a contract? I never really understood that part.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions
The posting fee goes to the player's club.
In his case, $52 mil to the Lions. On top of that, he signed a $52 mil 6 year contract. Crazysauce.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I was just reading about that.
They’ll never get that much back out of him. Suddenly having Theo working for the Cubs isn’t quite so daunting.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions
He's getting a TJ, which will likely take him to the end of that contract on the DL.
So, yeah, not good.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it's 7 years, yeah.
Taguchi played there for 10 IIRC.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Loving these videos
The first one you posted has links to lots of other videos from fans at the game. Fun stuff. Love hearing different people’s insane reactions.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I might make this my sig, when SBN gets fixed.
2011 World Series Ratings Up +19%
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions
isn't that awesome?
especially with the excerpts saying it was going to be the lowest rated World Series ever. +19%, how bout dem apples bitches????
Balls
Gettin' sleepy.
I have a lot of respect for worldwide Cards fans that stay up to oddball hours to watch ’em play.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 3:19 AM EDT reply actions
Oh, no! Fighters' 2B muffed one.
Lions take a late 2 – 1 lead.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 3:20 AM EDT reply actions
2B got ate up on that one
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 3:21 AM EDT reply actions
Fighters not lying down!
Lead off double.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 3:27 AM EDT reply actions
Oh, man. Fighters miss a golden opportunity.
Their season is on the line here.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 3:39 AM EDT reply actions
Lions tack on another run. 3 - 1
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 3:50 AM EDT reply actions
Was posted last night.
She’s a doll.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions
serious marriage material
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, this is what started the infamous diamond debate, haha
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 30, 2011 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha
I should warn her that once you get married, and you’re up at 4am reading some forums and a young adult novel, your husband will wake up to go to the bathroom and tell you you’re crazy.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 30, 2011 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I should wake him up
and demand that he serve me some bacon. That was in the marriage vows, right?
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 30, 2011 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah i think so,,,,
to have & to hold, through breakfast, lunch, dinner & snacks, provide all the bacon your heart desires, through sickness & death, till death do you part
Balls
It's The Red Pyramid
by Rick Riordan. I’ve read all the Percy Jackson books, so I figured, why not? Thought I’d take a little detour before starting the 3rd Song of Ice and Fire book.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 30, 2011 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions
how are those percy jackson books?
I’m man enough to say that I do not yet have enough magical-children novels in my life.
They're decent enough
Sometimes I just like a break from adult lit, ha. They read pretty young though, kind of on the level of early Harry Potter if you’ve read those.
I like the Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel series, too.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 30, 2011 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions
have I read early harry potter?
have I read early harry potter, she says.
these would be competing with harry potter fanfiction for time on my to-read-when-my-brain-is-fried list. I’ll put them on the queue.
it's like she's new here or something
come on siren, that’s a newbie mistake. everyone knows about Dan & Harry
Balls
I'm very busy and important
can’t keep up with everything, you know
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 30, 2011 4:56 AM EDT up reply actions
He knows I'm kind of a big deal
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 30, 2011 5:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha, it's not that they're LIKE Harry Potter
I just meant the level of reading, kind of general age-group, is more on par with the early HP.
The HP series is much better than Percy Jackson IMO, but Percy is still worth a try! I like mythology, so it’s fun.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 30, 2011 4:54 AM EDT up reply actions
FWIW, the home team is down 5 - 1 and about to be eliminated
and the crowd is still cheering like mad.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 3:55 AM EDT reply actions
they love their baseball over there
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 30, 2011 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, that was crushed.
And that’ll about do it for the Fighters. 8 – 1
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 4:02 AM EDT reply actions
That's it. Lions win and go on to face the Softbank Hawks in Stage 2.
Fighters are eliminated.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 4:16 AM EDT reply actions
Thanks for indulging me, VEB.
g’night.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 30, 2011 4:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I appreciated it
I’ve been to two japanese baseball games and I loved them both. totally different experience, but a lot of fun.
terrible revelation
I have not seen mr. baseball.
it’s like watching 80s baseball, complete with no-hit shortstops, running and bunting, astroturf, guys who don’t even pretend to break 90 on their fastballs, and dated uniforms, in strange and cool-looking 5/8 replicas of major league stadiums, most of them domes, while the people around you chant and drum on things in unison.
and every away team has a traveling cheering section with a band.
run, don't walk to Netflix & watch Mr Baseball
that’s just how Mr Baseball portrays it, it’s Whitey ball to the 25th power. i don’t remember the traveling cheering & bands though.
Balls
minus tommy herr in a mink coat during the celebratory parade
make this happen, baseball movies.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 30, 2011 5:02 AM EDT up reply actions
so my trip couldn't have ended any better.
Sorry for terrible writing and grammar in here… i just arrived back in seoul and this is my feeling for the 2011 world series. It ended the same way as it began: After flying from Seoul to St. louis and just barely making it to game 1 we went away with a big W from it. I also got chances to go to game 2 and 6 but by far the best part was game 7. You just knew after CJ wilson hit furcal that the World Series was ours… it felt so freaking good. I was saddened by the Rain delay at first because it meant less time to see my family before i left on friday but it was a worthwhile sacrifice. My flight was leaving at 6:10AM to Seoul via Detroit (on saturday) so once again i packed my bags and put them in my friends car and parked at the Queen and watched game 7 in the landing. After winning we went to Morgan Street to celebrate a bit and then walked towards busch to meet my friend who bought me a 2011 World Series champs tshirt from the gift shop A giant sea of red was englufing downtown st. louis; i had wished that STL was like this every night, i can’t forget the awesome pictures i took with drunk happy strangers, oh man. Simply AWESOME. This season felt better than 2006 because our team was better and to use a cliche “they never gave up”. and while a lot of people won’t agree with me. I do think that the cardinals team did deserve the world series win. Anyways, so later I walked across the Eads later with my drunk friends(Except for driver) and went to the airport at 5. Lets just say the Cardinals gave me a HAPPY FLIGHT.
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 30, 2011 5:17 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Kamshahamnida for the post. . .
Did a ten spot in Korea – 8 in Seoul. Let me know if you ever come to Bangkok. . . . Glad someone from this part of the serious world visited the World Series. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Rec'd - one more to go!
Good for you letsgostlcardinals! Glad for you to have had the great experience!
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 30, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Hi! I'm baaack
So this is the other side, eh?
That went… well.
Cards fan in Middle East
by Shloz on Oct 30, 2011 5:21 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
DUB - see my comment below. My guess is you have book in you about this season. . .
Would be altogether fitting and proper. . . . Don’t even need to interview TLR – just post growls from the Pit Bulls at ARF and record a couple crunches from snapping torties. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Anti-Prohibition here in Bangkok - people rooting for the dries rather than the wets. Something of a good metaphor for this season - totally unexpected, hard to describe, full of hope, sorrow and then the great void men call Albert's contract.
Not to diminish anything is this amazing season; however, not sure this is the greatest season ever – 1964 has a special albeit similar place. The improbable comeback, collapse of the Phils, and the win over the invincible Yanks of Mantle, Maris, Ford and all the rest. The wonderful Halbertstam book covers it so well.
Would not be surprised to see a similar tale about the 11 Cards. DUB – would be a hell of a project. . . . Go far it, and thanks to VEB who sustained me in a year of political and natural disaster here in Thailand. The wit and hope from each post and comment carried a lot delivered a source of strength and solace when things otherwise seemed lost.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
by akaitori on Oct 30, 2011 6:48 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
wait,
this website did that? VEB??
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Oct 30, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
YOU DON'T THINK VEB WILL SUSTAIN A MAN THROUGH A YEAR OF DISASTERS?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Future Mrs. David Freese ♥
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 World Series Champions
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 30, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
VEB is a humanitarian entity full of benevolence for all mankind throughout the world!
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 30, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
they are both amazing
but totally different. ‘64 Cards didn’t have to go through a playoffs, but had a tougher opponent in the WS
11!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 30, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions

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