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David Freese, sabermetrics, Game 6 of the 2011 World Series

ST LOUIS, MO - OCTOBER 27:  A fan of the St. Louis Cardinals holds up a sign reading "Weather Forecast in St. Louis Deep Freese" after Game Six of the MLB World Series at Busch Stadium on October 27, 2011 in St Louis, Missouri.  (Photo by Doug Pensinger/Getty Images)

People talk a lot about how statistical analysis sucks the fun out of baseball, how it turns people into number-producing automatons, how it leaves baseball games with all the suspense of a Strat-O-Matic game, and it's easy to see why someone might believe that having never gone through a season from that perspective himself.

For most of the teams every year you'd observe four months of people calling themselves on each other's small sample sizes, talking prospects up for next year, considering just how long it's going to be before the no-name guy who's won five starts in a row gets shelled and sent back down to the PCL, and then two months of those same people, or what's left of them, debating who should get called up when rosters expand. Then the season ends and you'd watch them debate the merits of FIP and xFIP until February, when it's time to talk about small sample sizes again. 

But watching baseball after you know how baseball works is knowing when it's time for the analysis to stop. Yesterday the Cardinals needed—and this is just starting in the bottom of the ninth inning—an Albert Pujols double on the latest last-at-bat-in-Busch-Stadium-as-a-Cardinal; a David Freese triple off Neftali Feliz and just over the head of Nelson Cruz; singles from Daniel Descalso and Jon Jay against a left-hander, followed by a Kyle Lohse bunt; a single from Lance Berkman out of an intentional walk; and David Freese hitting his fifth home run of the postseason, and driving in his 19th. 

Old Sportswriter Straw Men of baseball, this is the situation in which you're totally right, and the reason you've got things all wrong—when it comes down to this one moment, WAR really doesn't mean anything. 

Star-divide

That said, in case you were wondering:

  • David Freese is now hitting .393/.439/.787 in the postseason, and .313/.364/.495 in 2011. 
  • Jake Westbrook's scoreless inning was his second appearance since exactly a month ago, when he gave up five runs in two innings on September 27, and his first playoff victory since the 2007 ALCS. 
  • I'm finally okay with the Cardinals trading Jim Edmonds, as of right—now
Game 7 of the 2011 World Series. Whatever happens, the Cardinals have played baseball exactly as deep into the miserable, baseball-less offseason as the schedule allows. 

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I am still in love with David Freese this morning.

And I was APPALLED at the news that people left the game in the 7th inning. APPALLED!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn't leave until the 8th

Just kidding !!!

It was magical there. All the people in my section were standing from the 8th inning on. After the game, the guy next to me says “I’ll probably never see you again, but we shared something special tonight.”

by Poop on Oct 28, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

just make sure he didn't poke you with a hepatitis needle

and that’s what he was talking about

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 28, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

speaking of hepatits

Did anyone catch Beavis and Butthead last night? It was pretty good.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

not sure if serious. . .

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

serious

the new beavis and butt-head premiered last night and those who caught it would know why i said “speaking of hepatitis”

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

this coming from the same guy who posted below he lives for baseball

what were you doing watching beavis and butthead last night??

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I caught it.

I laughed throughout. It wasn’t the best B&B episode ever, but it didn’t lack the classic B&B atmosphere.

From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.

by icardinal on Oct 28, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, wasn't the best

I’m still fond of “No Laughing” but it was definitely a classic. I loved the ripping of Jersey Shore, True Life: I’m addicted to Porn, and the music videos. The True Life bit had me laughing non-stop: porn, porn, porn, porn, glasses, porn, porn, porn, porn, there’s my dad, porn, porn, porn, porn.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but those fucks left some pretty awesome seats empty

so i win
and Cardinals win
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 28, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I hate you today

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

i love you instead, icing black and blue swollen ankle according to your directions as we speak

i brought some preliminary happy pix too before i sit down and edit the batch

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 28, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just kidding, of course

I’m happy for everyone that got to witness that game. Earlier in the night I thought we may see you in the dugout strangling someone. I’m glad things turned around and you didn’t have to resort to violence against our beloved birds.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

one of the presswire photogrphers was telling me he has to empty his memory cards quickly

because it’ll get crazy when the rangers stream the field
take that!

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 28, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

The people that left got exactly what they deserved for their lack of faith

For years, they will have to lie to folks and say they were “there” for this epic contest and suffer the guilt of both their lie and their disloyalty. I just wish fans like that would give their tickets away to true fans. Maybe some of those early leavers were among those that post so often here about had bad a team the Cards are and how they would never win, etc, etc.

by RedAllOver on Oct 28, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean they paid hundreds of dollars to be there.

And people like me would have killed to be there and then they’re going to leave? Screw them.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's their money

if you would really kill to be there, kill them and take their tickets

by jeff_abs on Oct 28, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

But then I have to get on a plane and get there.

I may not kill but I may tie up and leave in a locked closet.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Although if SBN was alive I might kill it.

I had more but I don’t feel like typing it again.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now the whole comment is here and there aren't two!

I am so confused.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

this comment needs

a fritz hobo-murder reply

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 28, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Busy, Matty.

These stolen from a murdered hobo cans of beans aren’t going to heat themselves!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

there were people outside the stadium after the game asking to buy people's ticket stubs

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 28, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

at least they beat the traffic!

by Iowa on Oct 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I woke up this morning

To find I apparently bought four tickets to tonight’s game. Will be driving down from Chicago around noon. And to think we have (in part) Prince to thank for this! Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go sell my first born.

Go Cards!!!

by Please Tommy Don't Herr't 'Em on Oct 28, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

kids are more important than baseball

I’ll take those tickets off your hands so you don’t have to worry.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

is this just fantasy?

caught in a landslide
no escape from reality

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 28, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

open your eyes, look up to the skies

and seeeeeeeeeeeeeee

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 28, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just a poor boy (poor boy),

I need no sympathy.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 28, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because I'm easy come, easy go

A little high, little low

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by mtzxc on Oct 28, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm told they are

better sell me the tickets just to be safe

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does the professional signs...

…bother anyone else.

First the “Deep Freese” sign is obviously made for TV and supplied by Fox for the event.

Second, you know it is Fox making these because the same people in charge of coming up with the catch phrases hired Tim McCarver. (side not is anyone old enough to remember when McCarver was good as the Mets play by play guy, I want to know when this guys hits the bottom of the slide.)

Third, if you want them to look homemade change the font and color up some. Same freaking sign every game.

Fourth, I have seen real homemade signs taken away from actual fans. Probably because they are not readable on TV.

Sht this list could be endless.

by BigJawnMize on Oct 28, 2011 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

That looks like the sign guy

He’s from Springiield and he’s there with 20 to 30 signs stacked up in the aisle (near the Cardinals Cowboy).

He’s famous now, so the ushers don’t hassle him.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Oct 28, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's only been doing it for as long as I can remember

since 1985 for sure…

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I recall him at games in the early 90s

I remember signs about Bernard Gilkey hitting it out of the “Gilkey Way”

by dmiles on Oct 28, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah sign guy always uses that font

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 9:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yep

He’s also a season ticket holder for most of the Missouri state athletic programs, and owns a large screen printing business in springfield. Most definitely not a plant.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 28, 2011 9:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You guys know everything.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 28, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB: We sound knowledgeable on everything.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

our basement is right under a holliday inn express

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

there is this dude in st louis "the sign guy"

he logs a bunch of signs year round
it’s not fox, the guy is legit even if an irritating fame whore
you can follow him on twitter, but all the puns get old pretty much immediately

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 28, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

You ever think how hard it is to come up with those

Without getting old?

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 9:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

clearly impossible

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 28, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think you can call him a fame whore

He is at every Springfield Cardinals game with his signs. Not exactly getting on prime time TV down there.

Official sponsor of Fat Jesus.

by MattK on Oct 28, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

fame, no? attention, yes.

Also, Dominoes pizza.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is from Springfield MO

He brings signs to Springfield Cardinals games too.

by saladdays on Oct 28, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

have you really never seen the sign guy before?

he’s one of the first things I remember seeing at busch stadium as a kid.

by DanUpBaby on Oct 28, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

and he passes out suckers!

(don’t take candy from strangers, kids. Unless it is Halloween night)

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

OMG...I have become too much of a cynic!

There is a guy who makes this and doesnt get paid by someone. I am skeptical. I always thought he worked for someone, his signs show up at a lot of sporting events now or the style is copied. It is the font.

I apologize I obviously have been jaded living in Chicago too long.

by BigJawnMize on Oct 28, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

so, about Ronnie Woo Woo.............

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I bursting out in laughter...

…I dont know if it is thinking of Ronnie Woo Woo or how when every Cubs fan walks by my desk they shake their head in disgust, I cant stop laughing. It is like turrets.

by BigJawnMize on Oct 28, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously

I am an idiot….

I vote that someone from the site, say one of the actual clever ones work with this guy to come up with some decent shit.

by BigJawnMize on Oct 28, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here is some feel good music

to celebrate Card’s big win. This is the kind of music I grew up with in the 40’s. Glad some young people have found the good taste to appreciate it. Arte Shaw would be grateful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=L7N6slVrQeY&vq=medium

by ridgesee on Oct 28, 2011 9:15 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

that was great

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 28, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta rec that

I didn’t grow up in the ’40’s, but I do love me some big band swing. (or just about anything with a lot of brass)

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 28, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some of the best jazz I ever heard was at a bar in Yokohama Chinatown.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 28, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was worried when Westbrook came in

and I was like “awww, crap, our season comes down to a guy who hasn’t pitched in a month”. I’m so glad to be wrong.

by dmiles on Oct 28, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

don't get it twisted, if he'd have to pitch three

some balls would have hit the bleachers

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 28, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had the same reaction

I was yelling at him to keep it down every pitch.

Westbrook goes down in history as the winning pitcher of this game. Awesome.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

He had that one great bullpen session though.

I mean, geez, come on guys, he threw a 4 hitter against a simulated lineup!

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is MLB 2011 that lifelike of a video game?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was actually relieved

I forgot all about Westie and the only pitcher I could remember that was available was Rhodes.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 28, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would still rather have Sanchez there, though.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 28, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our bullpen worries me tonight

also, vs a lefty with probably no Holliday, our lineup worries me tonight. The closer it gets to gametime, the more worried I guess I’ll be…

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

we have two fully rested starters behind Carp

Lohse all ready to follow his excellent pinch-bunting performance with a good relief outing

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 28, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Motte threw 27 pitches

I’d say he’s available if need be tonight. Salas and Lynn both threw in the 40s IIRC and aren’t going to be available.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Salas looked overextended last night, anyway

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I'm in the minority here

but I wouldn’t mind seeing Lohse get the start. (without checking stats) seems like he gets through the first 2-4 innings pretty smooth. Then use a bullpen arm if Lohse gets in a tight spot and have Carp warm up to get us to the end of the game. Carp on short rest makes me nervous

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

then we move him to the outfield and then back to the mound!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either Lohse or Carp is going to be the first arm out of the pen tonight, I imagine

I guess its a matter of which one you want to start.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carp is starting.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is the correct decision

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd start Carp

Lohse, then Jackson. Tony will not bring any of them in during the middle of an inning, he’ll use the actual relievers for that part.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 28, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

My preference

would be Carp but on a really short leash, say 40 pitches/3IP or so, or until/unless he starts to labour. Then I’d try to get EJax in for 1-2 innings, and use Lohse if needed. I think both should be rested enough to pitch as a pure bullpen arm. I’d mix in Rzep and Dotel as matchups allow, and hope this combo gets us to the 8th or 9th.

Really, I’d be prepared to throw all my best bullets in the first 9 innings (perhaps even the first 7 or so). Salas or Lynn can always throw in extras, if it gets to that, but in no way do I hold anything back. TBH, if the bullpen hadn’t been so taxed last night, I’d consider giving Rzep, Motte, Dotel, Lynn and Salas all an inning or so, and use Carp/Lohse/Jackson effectively as relievers (although probably start with Carp). Basically use 7 or 8 pitchers, intentionally, for 9 innings.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can understand that

but I wonder if it might make more sense to just hold EJax as the last man out of the ’pen in case of extras, so you have someone who is capable of going six or seven innings if it comes to that.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

but I don’t like holding too much back in this scenario. It’s not like the regular season, because we still have Westbrook and Jaime who both pitched last night and should really be unavailable, but both (esp. Westy) threw <60 pitches I think, so in an emergency they could be used. Probably the only time I’d vaguely consider being a bit more conservative is if it’s tied after 7 or 8 and we still have (say) Motte in the pen. Maybe go with EJax or Lohse for another inning at that point.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is Game 7.

It’s ‘all hands on deck’ time.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

That, I agree with. Everyone throws a few innings if needed in an elimination game. They all get six months to recover no matter what, now.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Westbrook can still fill this role.

He only threw one inning last night, and could probably go 3-4 innings if needed tonight I would guess. Plus, as a sinkerballer, he might be better off with a little arm fatigue anyway.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Lynn or Salas...

but Dotel, Zep, and Motte ready plus Jackson and Lohse.

by guayzimi on Oct 28, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why are Lynn and Salas out but Dotel/Zep/Motte can all pitch?

Didn’t both Lynn and Motte both go more than an inning yesterday? I imagine any of them can/will be used if needed, but also guessing that all of Lynn, Salas and Motte (and Zep, to a lesser extent) will be less effective than usual tonight.

I hear you on Jackson and Lohse, though. Kinda hoping Jackson can be our wild card, somewhat. Two innings of hard-throwing stuff from the pen would be very useful, especially if Carp can only make 3 or 4 innings on short rest.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rzep threw something like 15 pitches yesterday

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

8, even

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Salas threw 48 pitches and Lynn 32...

considering that and the fact that both kind of seem out of gas I assume they’ll be at the back of the pen. Motte threw 27 pitches but he at least seems strong.

by guayzimi on Oct 28, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

I didn’t think it likely we’d see Salas tonight. I think Motte will come in in a save situation, but if it’s a lefty up first we might see Rzep/Rhodes and then the ball given to Motte for any righties. I’m pretty sure Motte won’t throw multiple innings, though.

Realistically, I’d think a well-rested Kyle Lohse throwing at maximum effort would be better than Lance Lynn (who I think has been pretty lucky so far and probably isn’t quite the beast he’s looked in his MLB career to date) so I kinda hope we only use Lynn as a last resort.

Boggs is the big question mark. Given that Westbrook took the 11th yesterday, I’m kinda guessing that he’s worn out his welcome with TLR. That said, he still looks a good pitcher to my eyes. Will be interesting to see just how far down the pecking order he is if it goes to extra innings. Will Lynn or Salas get in before Boggs?

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say that I'm with TLR, at least for tonight

he came in and gave up the go-ahead run in game five on his first pitch. He shouldn’t be immediately dumped, I think he has a lot of promise still, but that doesn’t exactly inspire a ton of confidence in me.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I probably agree tbh

though part of that is that he’s barely pitched in the last couple of months and has been oddly (to my eyes) under-used this year. One week, he’s the closer, and then about a month later he’s demoted to Memphis and then unsure of his role when he comes back.

For a guy with such good stuff he does seem oddly hittable, though. Maybe it’s partially bad luck.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Westbrook was excellent because he keeps the ball down.

Even when the Rangers hit it in the air, they undercut it.

by chriswallace on Oct 28, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think Lohse and Jackson will get the Salas/Lynn roles...

with not much drop off. Then Dotel/Zep/Motte… As for the rest, I’d put it at Westy-Boggs-Lynn-Salas, but who knows?

On the the other side, Holland, Lewis, and Ogando have to be out… Maybe they go with Adams over Feliz? I would, but Wash probably won’t.

by guayzimi on Oct 28, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find it hard to believe Lohse & EJax

(two guys with sub-4.00 FIPs in MLB in starting roles this year) won’t be BETTER out of the pen than Lynn, who’s hovered round a 4.00FIP in triple-A the last two years.

I’m guessing Texas are in the same spot we are, really. Ogando didn’t throw that much did he? Mind you, we’ve hit him pretty well so far. I imagine they’ll go Adams/Feliz in the 8th and 9th and the rest is all pretty up for grabs.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lynn did something new or found some velocity that renders his past stats less meaningful (I think)...

as for Ogando – he is toast. Stick a fork in him, my god he is terrible. I think it’s a result of going from 45 innings to 180 this year.

by guayzimi on Oct 28, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lynn found a bit more velo in the pen

he was early-90s in Memphis I think (despite early year suggestions he hit 97 one game), but seems to sit 94, 95 in the pen. That said, most pitchers get 2-3mph from moving into relief. I imagine Kyle Lohse could throw 93 from the bullpen (with probably better control and secondary stuff than Lynn), and Jackson would be up at 97, 98, comfortably. I’d go to those guys first, I think.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

badumching

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

incredible game

I was gigging w/ my band, but had my eyes glued to the TV the whole freaking game. Luckily my band mates and the crowd are really supportive and cheer along with me. Several times I thought it was over (when we were down 7-4, when we had a chance to blow it open in 8th w/ loaded, the J. Hamilton home in the 10th). But they just coming back. Only bummer was we were playing a song in the 11th and got distracted from the TV (guitar solo?) and missed the Freese homer.

UNBELIEVABLE GAME!

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Oct 28, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I dont post very often,

but im a daily reader…. and you people entertained me well after the game was over so thank you, i was giggling well after 3 am last night

VEB + Cardinals huge win = BEST DAY EVERRRRR

my love for you is like a truck

by TheHolyDiver19 on Oct 28, 2011 9:19 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

powerfull emotions there

very eloquent

my love for you is like a truck

by TheHolyDiver19 on Oct 28, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gant

I think it was Ron Gant that got deked but yeah, great game. This one however, will resonate a lot longer.

by paposse on Oct 28, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gant didn't reach base in Game 7.

And Sanders didn’t play. Game Log and Play by Play

It must have been Lonnie Smith or Brian Hunter.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was Skates

Chuck Knoblauch deked Lonnie. Very famous play. I always felt bad for Lonnie. That was one eff’d-up stadium and little wonder he could not find the ball. Guess he should have found his third base coach.

by Youneverknow on Oct 28, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to go on the record

And say that I prefer Jack Buck’s “We’ll see you tomorrow night.”

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Jack>Joe

But Cardinals win> Twins win
Also it was kind of perfect that Joe honored Jack with that call by calling it for the team that Jack spent his career doing radio for

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 9:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh I agree and say that to people a lot

But Jack is, well, Jack. Enough said

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not much of a Joe Buck fan

But from what I saw, he did a good job last night.
Other than the Jaime Garcia pinch-hitting part.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 28, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I especially appreciated them shutting up during the tensest moments.

Of course, I won’t be able to judge the broadcast tonight, AS I WILL BE THERE IN PERSON FOR GAME SEVEN OF THE FUCKING WORLD SERIES AT BUSCH FUCKING STADIUM.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I felt like they stopped trying to ruin everything with crappy camera angles

That is on Fox rather than Buck and McCarver, but yeah.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you guys not tweeting

#FoxTruckSucks @MLBonFox

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Using the club tickets?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 28, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will demand a t-shirt from a commoner in the regular seats

and make his peasant wife sew it into a tie for me.

They will both avoid eye contact, as traditions dictate.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Peasants are good at doing menial work like that

They should be honored to provide for their betters!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree

Joe is pretty good and anytime he makes me think of Jack is wonderful.

by OCCardsFan on Oct 28, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess some people might find the quotation of his dad kind of cheesy or something

But I thought it was great. Especially after that eerily prescient trivia question and discussion segment! You can’t write this stuff, folks.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Early in the game

when they were talking about 6th games ending on home runs, I said to myself, “Well, maybe tonight will be another one.” I never dreamed it would actually happen, much less in the 11th after 2 run rallies to tie in both the 9th and 10th!

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 28, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

my favorite buck comment last night

They just. Won’t. Go. Away.
the phrase, the timing, the tone….made me laugh out loud and yell at the TV, “That’s right, baby!”

by westsidecards on Oct 28, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yeah, I find Buck is good with certain kinds of calls

if he didn’t spend half his time cleaning up after McCarver, I bet he’d come off much better.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love the comment McCarver tried to make

I don’t recall what his rambling was about but even McCarver stopped and said “nevermind”

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i did really enjoy that one.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

When exactly did that happen?

I remember hearing it but I can’t remember what moment of the game it came in. One of our game-tying hits maybe?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i can't find it on the replays either...

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I blockquoted it when it happened.

check out the game threads.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet, maybe I'll do some thread spelunking in a minute

I knew I could count on VEB

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

VIDEO

Berkman’s single in the 10th

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah ha!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't expecting a video link so quickly

Again, I should have known VEB would be on top of this.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm basically replaying these clips over and over right now.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

remember to wash your hands

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zombie Cardinals

they’re still coming after you!

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 28, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

well it's more of a relentless lumbering

oh, the lumbering.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

It sounded to me like Joe Buck was trying very hard...

to suppress his enthusiasm for the Cardinals. I think part of the reason he’s so monotone is that he tries too hard to be impartial.

What was he like as a Cards-only broadcaster? I recall him being a lot better but maybe some of you feel otherwise…

by mattisnotfrench on Oct 28, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was actually quite similar as a Cards broadcaster.

I don’t recall him being like a radio broadcaster very often.

by chriswallace on Oct 28, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I don’t think he was ever the regular radio broadcaster. he subbed for Jack a few times when Jack was sick, if I remember right.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was a regular TV guy.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I misread chriswallace's comment

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved him when he was a cards only broadcaster.

He has a good sense of humor that seems more subtle than a lot of announcers which I really like. He does seem to try really hard to not be biased in my opinion. Other fans don’t think he does a good job, I think he sometimes goes overboard and does too good a job.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

Although last night I thought I could hear I distinct “I’m lovin every minute of this” vibe during the events of the last three innings.

by bailorg on Oct 28, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure everyone does.

Here’s the thing though: If you’re Joe Buck, that’s a no win situation for you, especially since Fox decided to talk about that particular Game 6 three separate times during the coverage last night. If you do your own thing there, people criticize you for not paying homage to the old man. If you pay homage to the old man, people criticize you for ripping off one of the greats, even if the guy was your dad.

I think Joe is a pretty great announcer in his own right, but his sense of history and the fact that he’s the son of a legend who was part of so many of them make it difficult to put the moment in context without seemingly ripping off dear old dad.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's in his contract with FOX

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's kind of my attitude two

I still wish they could get the WS back on NBC.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastic.

Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........

by liars&thieves on Oct 28, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have absolutely, positively no problem with his call last night.

and think joe buck is ridiculously underrated as a broadcaster and hated around the country for seemingly no reason. i mean, come on, the alternative is thom brennaman. no thank you.

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

People elsewhere think he's a homer.

People in St. Louis think he is not and that he should be.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

What the heck SBN?

People elsewhere think he’s homer. People in St. Louis think he’s not but should be.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was doing that to me a few days ago

If you refresh your comment’s contents will be there.

by mojowo11 on Oct 28, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I did that earlier several times and it didn't work.

SBN needs to learn how to handle David Freese.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe just talks too much on TV

Master of the Obvious. MOTO. If he would stop telling us what we can clearly see with our own eyes, the rest of his work is pretty solid.

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 28, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

his job his play by play.

i’m not sure exactly what you’re looking for. i actually joe’s work is a bit downgraded because mccarver is such an idiot. if joe could get someone competent in his booth to provide actual analysis his work would improve. it’s kind of the dan mclaughlin effect.

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't tell us the count after the pitch.

We can see that on the graphic. Don’t tell us “Flyball to right field” We can see that.

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 28, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hear this about tv pbp guys often

but I’ve never actually watched a who doesn’t say those things, and I think it would sound strange. for me that patter’s just part of watching a baseball game on tv.

by DanUpBaby on Oct 28, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say that it's an old habit from most starting out on radio.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

And people being used to it from radio too

Like DanUp, I think it would just be weird to not get the “play by play” commentary even though we can see what is happening because we have television now.

If nothing else I think we can fall back on the “part of the game” argument just like bad umpiring and managers wearing uniforms.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

besides

lots of time (regular season at least) I’ll only be half-watching a game. It’s nice to know when to look up to see a play or be able to follow along by just the sound while you’re in another room.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 28, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

or if you spend a few seconds too long in the bathroom between innings.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a "competent" color man in baseball though?

I think Smoltz does a great job, but that’s mostly because he hasn’t been doing it for very long. I thought Hershiser was really good when he first started, but now he’s just like the rest of them — constantly saying stupid things and making dumb comments in an effort to reach that casual fan.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

and... that's a burn.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

That wasn't my point at all actually

It’s that while the casual fan may not care as much about things as the rest of us do, people like McCarver do the game no favors by making comments that are either completely false or are completely hyperbolic in their nature. There’s plenty to explain just about the game itself while making comments about things that are happening while they are happening through the eye of an informed observer.

FWIW — I think Tim McCarver, judging by his interview show, is FAR more intelligent than what comes off on TV. It’s just that he’s been produced as part of a broadcast for so long that he’s forced by FOX to dumb it down for a “tee-vee” audience so as not to turn off the casual fan.

I’m sorry, I just think that’s backwards. I think good analysis can be engaging. I think what turns most casual fans off are the endless cliches and stupid banter. Which is how I feel about Mark Jackson on NBA broadcasts. It’s just one stupid cliche after another in his Brooklyn staccato.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

my comment was super tongue in cheek.

i agree with you completely.

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm ok with commentary

I can just tune the ramblings out, but I really wish the TV networks could give us more whole field views of the plays. (like when Lohse bunted, and they showed the defense playing it out)
why do we always have to see just a crappy angle of the plate from behind the pitcher?

"There's only one way to play baseball, "the Cardinals' way." - George Kissell 1920-2008

by Supergus on Oct 28, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

TV meme?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate it

I especially hate it when the show him when they get a run, are in the midst of scoring runs, etc.

I do not mind however when they go to a shot of him when we are sucking the life out of thier team when we hit HR or make great plays, or otherwise get on a roll…also do not mind the shot’s of Nolan Ryan in these circumstances, even though I have huge respect for him.

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 28, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

My dad actually says he like Tim McCarver a lot, and I think he is getting at the same thing you are… that he is clearly smarter and better at talking about baseball than the broadcast format makes him seem. He probably remembers more Tim McCarver over the years and has the “smarter Tim” improving the projection, as it were, whereas I have a much larger recency bias.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I seem to remember someone a few years ago rewatching a WS game from the late 1980's

and remarking in utter shock that Tim McCarver was consistently making insightful points about the game.

by bailorg on Oct 28, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Francona was 1000x better than McCarver

Competent guys who are fresh out of the league are always the best.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 28, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poz made the point the other day that a color guy is only good for so long

Specifically talking about McCarver. I think this is probably right. Smoltz has a fresh perspective. McCarver, not so much.

by OCCardsFan on Oct 28, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it's a lot like a band, right?

There are so very few that remain consistently good at turning out new material for years and years and years, and even those bands (Rolling Stones, U2, Springsteen) have a real contentious relationship with their original fans because they can’t continue to do the same fucking type of music forever. They get bored with it, experiment, and piss off a bunch of people enough that those people then form a huge backlash against the “new stuff” or claim that they’ve “sold out”.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dylan goes electric???

Worst thing evar!!!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's an example of
  1. Huge Outrage
  2. Backlash
  3. Turnaround
  4. Acceptance
  5. Distinguished as classic folk/rock masterpieces.

Basically, Dylan has come full circle.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's the only one I can think of that made interesting choices but

ones that always seemed to work out well for him.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least until his born-again Christian phase

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like his Christmas album.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

And his XM radio show is mesmerizingly awesome, even though he’s not using his music there

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bowie

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only issue I have with Joe has more to do with Fox than with Joe, probably

It’s the fact that he’s in commercials that are supposed to be funny but end up coming off as smug and contrite.

That, and his sometimes over-reaching in terms of what is and isn’t appropriate (The Randy Moss fake-moon at Lambeau was not “disgusting”, just merely a bit inappropriate unless you’ve been an opposing fan at a GB game).

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a packers fan (undefeated defending SB champs)

I disagree. Getting beaten by a team that didn’t even have a winning record that we had beaten twice was bad enough, that moon was cocky an offensive and to be ok with it and call fox commercials smug is unbelievably contradictory. Did I mention the Packers are undefeated SB champs that just beat the last place Vikings?

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 10:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well,

perhaps if your drunk ass, cheese eating fans would stop mooning the opposing teams bus (which also happens to be in public), the “fake-mooning” probably wouldn’t have happened.

Arrogance is not liking a taste of your own fucking medicine.

I don’t give a shit about the Packers this year or next year or the year after that. I really don’t, so keep on with your rubbing in your Super Bowls and all that endless bullshit. If you can’t take a fucking joke, then I have no respect for you.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um, Randy Moss's fake mooning was intentioned every bit to be offensive out of cockiness

And I was the one telling a joke by teasing you about the Packers winning and you were the not taking a joke

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Whatever

Packers fans are the most arrogant I’ve ever seen in person. Most arrogant. So I’ll just lump you in with those people based on your above comments about being undefeated and super bowl champs and move along.

P.S. Don’t call me a hypocrite when you can’t even realize how incredibly arrogant you’re being about this whole situation.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I CAN HEAR YOU

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm sorry of it offended you, it was meant to be a playful jab

You should know I’m not arrogant from my posting one here. There is another guy here who’s like you and is a Cardinals and Vikings fan and is very curteous and kind, he even gave me a funny Detroit blows pic, but I can’t remember who it is but if he is reading I hope I’m not offending him either

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 10:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm sorry of it offended you, it was meant to be a playful jab

You should know I’m not arrogant from my posting one here. There is another guy here who’s like you and is a Cardinals and Vikings fan and is very curteous and kind, he even gave me a funny Detroit blows pic, but I can’t remember who it is but if he is reading I hope I’m not offending him either

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 10:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i disagree with you.

i think just about everyone but packers fans were okay with the move moss pulled.

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was more than okay with it.

Don’t judge us by our worst. That’d be like saying every Cardinals fan is an attention whore that owns a Dominos franchise in Springfield, Mo.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was more than ok with it

that was one of my least favorite Joe Buck moments ever

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most Packer fans I know thought it was "obscene"

which I find incredibly hypocritical, considering those same fans think it’s funny that a certain group of Packer fans moon the opposing teams bus after EVERY GAME IN GREEN BAY.

So it’s more obscene for someone to fake doing it on national television than it is for a group of drunk people to do it in public in a parking lot?

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care about football as previously stated

But i think the whole Packers “joke” middle finger takes away packers fans’ right to be pissed about fake mooning.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize

I knew he was a Vikings fan so he was automatrealized ping to be Ok with it and I wanted to tease him a little. This is the first third party opinion of it besides FESPN guys that I’ve gotten despite being surrounded by Rams fans because my family/friends never gave me an opinion.

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 10:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

automatrealized ping= automatically going

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 10:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Honestly, I don't think I would've given Joe's call on Moss a second thought

if not for it being brought up seemingly 90% of the time Joe Buck’s merits as a broadcaster are discussed.

I just didn’t, and still, don’t think of it as a big deal either way.

by bailorg on Oct 28, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's the only television guy

who states the count on EVERY SINGLE PITCH. It’s not like we can’t see the graphics or anything, or keep it in our heads by watching. On radio sure, but this always bugs me during the game.

by paposse on Oct 28, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

D'oh

I see this was already covered.

by paposse on Oct 28, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

He does have to drown own shoe size mentioning Tim McCarver who thinks Mt Everest is a volcano

Did anyone else notice after Freese crossed home McCarver realized he hadn’t said anything to ruin that great moment and be remembered forever yet so he popped up and said “How did this happen?” like an upset parent talking to a kid that just ran thier car into a mailbox?

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 10:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ya, I thought it expressed the wonder that I was feeling

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 28, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jack>Joe

But Cardinals win> Twins win
Also it was kind of perfect that Joe honored Jack with that call by calling it for the team that Jack spent his career doing radio for

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 9:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

F'ing double posts

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 9:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Vin Scully in his prime

Heaven !

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 28, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

they did, however, stop talking to let it breathe.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course you do

Joe’s was just an homage. The original is always better.

by mojowo11 on Oct 28, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was just a tribute

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Had to rerun the last 3 innings

Would you believe that in the middle of the eigth inning some giant
steel monster came wandering down my street destroying every thing
in sight, stepped on my beloved 1992 chevy Silverado extended cab
smashing it.

Then backhanded my split level, tacking off my roof and second floor,
then reached in with in with index and middle finger, plucked up my ass
in my Lazy Boy and dumped me right of the top of my neighbor’s Lexus
350 Suv.

by ridgesee on Oct 28, 2011 9:32 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

What a game!

Went to bed 1:40 AM eastern, don’t have to work, and I was up ay 7:30 AM since I could not sleep.

Gonna be a long day.

Redbirds Fun
2006 WS for JB and DK57RIP: Josh Hancock

by cardsfan84 on Oct 28, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Lightweight

Went to bed at 2:30, up at 6:00. And now staying home with a kid who was up and down all night with an ear infection.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

lightweight

went to bed at 4.30. (got up at 11am though)

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 28, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lightweight.

haven’t slept yet.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 28, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 AM - 7:45

and I’m not even a little bit tired. So pumped full of adrenaline, just want it to be game time

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 28, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

i appologize if this has been brought up

but has anyone seen the highlight of freese with the two guys that got his home run ball? One of the dudes is wearing a cubs t-shirt. Is he just trolling or what??

my love for you is like a truck

by TheHolyDiver19 on Oct 28, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I'll never understand why cubs fans do that at Busch

I was at a Cardinals/Dodgers game and this guy was at Busch dressed in full Cubs gear, jersey, pants, spikes and all.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spikes?

Are you sure it wasn’t Mark Prior wandering around stadiums looking for a contract still?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Not sure, we're checking.

We can report he is from St. Louis though.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is?

don’t you have him confused with Ryan Howard?

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 28, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that

on the newsfeed today. The guy who got the ball brought his Cubs fan friend with him to the game. He (Cards guy) said something like “I didn’t know he was going to wear that shirt, unbelievable”

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 28, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

just left my 8 o'clock patient sitting in the waiting room for 15 minutes

had no clue he was here. It’s going to be a long (but great) day

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I hear you.

Is it bad that I hope most of my patients no-show so I can just hang out on VEB all day?

Stupid UCL's.

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 28, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, not at all

our phone system is down now so even if people call in they get a no show.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

ZOMBIE CARDS LIVE ON!!!!!

I have to admit that I posted a “thanks for the great season, Cardinals” message on my Facebook in the 7th. I knew I could be proven wrong by this team, and I wanted to be the one “doubter” that turned karma back to our Birds.

by CBonerfied on Oct 28, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

My wife purchased a Groupon for a comedy club thing tonight

some time ago; she was nice enough to ask if it clashed with the World Series (she bought it after the playoffs started). I told her no, and that I didn’t think we’d make the Series anyway.

She walked into the office this morning while I’m on a call and said “I guess I should cancel the show and the sitter tonight?”

She didn’t know the outcome of the game. She was in bed upstairs and heard me yell “UN FUCKING BELIEVABLE” at some point before midnight.

by sdrone on Oct 28, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I know what you meant.

But I still keep reading it wrong.

Ask me about the death of five hookers and how Craig James was allegedly involved.

by IsayPetrinoYouSayPaterno on Oct 28, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

hah!

now that i read it over i could see how someone could read that.

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can we all make an agreement tonight?

Whether the Cardinals are up by 10, or down by 10, let’s all forego proclamations about the championship until the actual final out has been recorded. Clearly, the insane has become sane now, and we should collectively acknowledge that.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

There is no championship

There is only a baseball game tonight.

And the Cardinals are involved.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

just another day at the ballpark

no big whoop.

scrappy, scrappy, scrappy ball club

by brockflood on Oct 28, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's what i hear

apparently it begins around 8 or so. but who knows? i get my info secondhand here. i’ll be glued to the tennis channel myself.

scrappy, scrappy, scrappy ball club

by brockflood on Oct 28, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's some time tonight

I guess we’ll know when the gamethread pops up.

by DanUpBaby on Oct 28, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh it's definitely bgh.

where’s Rui with all of his evidence?

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 28, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

shhhh

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

the cover's working

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's what we want you to think

the “Lab” is working.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so upset that I don't know and noone will tell me.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

here is a hint

it’s not me

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was diggers rally hat

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 28, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I HAVE NO IDEA

I THINK IT MIGHT BE ME

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 28, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

you must seek out the one

known as the shredder

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm SpartiTorty!

No, I’m SpartiTorty!

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh FFS

I forgot all about his prediction while watching the game last night.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 28, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 28, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

FLASH

He’ll save every one of us!

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 28, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

More Queen !

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 28, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

KING OF THE IMPOSSIBLE!

From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.

by icardinal on Oct 28, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

WAR, huh, good god ya'll, what is it good for?

Absolutely nothin’. And while we’re on the boomer era music kick:

Like a bird on the wire
Like a drunk in the midnight choir

Sounds a lot like I felt last night after that ugly, beautiful, clusterfuck of a win last night

scrappy, scrappy, scrappy ball club

by brockflood on Oct 28, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

What a long, strange trip it’s been, Cardinals fans.

It all comes down to tonight, let’s hope we keep truckin’ on

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 28, 2011 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm reading a thread on Google+

It was started by Vic Gundotra (from Google) and it’s pretty interesting.

People are mostly talking about how boring baseball is and how it shouldn’t be called the World Series because it’s US only.

So someone follows up with “the nba has a world championship and it’s us only” to which a genius replies

" USA basketball is of a way higher level than any other country. So with basketball it’s righteous to call it “World Championship”."

I shit you not.

Thread for those interested:

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I've also got a person in my circles

Who’s a die-hard Red Sox fan (thick Bostonian accent and all) who “hates the cardinals.”

When did the Cardinals become the Yankees of the NL?

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

baseball pseudo-fan self-righteousness about the world series is just infuriating

it’s called the world series because that’s what it’s called. the super bowl often does not take place in a bowl-shaped stadium.

by DanUpBaby on Oct 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Also

AFAIK there’s nothing in the rules that states that MLB franchises have to be located in the USA. That’s just where they are.

Barcelona, the best soccer team in the world, cannot play in the kickyfoot world cup. So should they rename it “the Championship of National Soccer Teams” or something?

Additionally, sometimes boats from outwith the American continent win the America’s Cup Yachting.

Some things are slightly confusingly or inaccurately named in the English language. Who knew.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

not only are there not rules athat states MLB franchieses have to be located in the USA

There are MLB franchises that are currently, not located in the USA

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 28, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Summary
  1. People are stupid.
  2. People are hyperbolic in their dismissal of what other people like and enjoy.
  3. People are stupid AND arrogant.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Correct me if i'm wrong....

But the United States of America isn’t the only Country that has a baseball team, is it?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 28, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

honkbal ftw!!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Calling it the World Series because Toronto has a team...

is like calling the Fargo airport “Fargo International Airport” because it has one flight a week to Winnipeg. Technically true…

by guayzimi on Oct 28, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um hello?

CANADA! It’s where they ship you if you don’t get along with Tony. Duh!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

not really

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 28, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

snoozer

just another boring win for westbrook. dude’s like clockwork. put him out there, get the W. zzzzzzz……

scrappy, scrappy, scrappy ball club

by brockflood on Oct 28, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

david freese dropped a pop up

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

he keeps dropping things FFS

if the camera guy and Beltre had let him fall into the camera-well? OMFG.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

How can people say baseball is boring?

I guess I’ll never understand it. Then again, when I tell people I find the NFL boring, they’re like “THAT’S UN-AMERICAN”

I’m sorry, i’ll never understand the dances and celebrations after EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY. You made a tackle? Congratulations. You threw for 2 yards? Congratulations.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I mean, I guess that's just how I was raised

I really don’t care for anything else but baseball. I don’t watch the NFL, NHL, NBA, etc. I’ve tried to watch games, they just don’t interest me.

I will forever live and breathe for baseball.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i will borrow from Joe Po.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball IS boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great."

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I totally understand how baseball is boring if you aren’t into things like pitch selection etc.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 28, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah.

me, personally, I can watch Brandon Dickson pitch the 6th inning of a 10-1 game in June and be happy, but for more casual fans, I really think baseball IS pretty boring most of the time. but 2 outs, bottom of the 9th, down 2 runs, men on second and third, wild closer on the mound… you can’t get better than that in sports. you just can’t.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can understand how baseball is boring if you don't have a decent centerfield camera

that is not off-set like a f’n Batman villain shot.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find handegg incredibly boring too.

It’s 3 hours of committee meetings, where guys occasionally line up and run a few feet. Halfway though, you see the Black Eyed Peas.

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 28, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Professional is boring me this year for some reason.

College handegg is awesome.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

our family calls it the No Fun League

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is why they created the Redzone channel

There is no reason to watch the NFL without it.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 28, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Football's pretty boring because 12 actual minutes have play during it.

I don’t find it boring, but when you have that little actual play, I can see it.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 28, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think part of it

is what you grew up with. I played baseball in the summer, football in the fall growing up and and still enjoy both. I do like college football better than the NFL, but I do watch big games.

If someone never played baseball/softball, it is harder for them to appreciate the pace of the game which does seem slow if you’re not fully involved in each pitch. I know there’s probably quite a few here who never played but love baseball, but most probably had a dad/uncle/mother/etc. that introduced them to the game.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 28, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

me either

and I don’t have anything against racing, I can appreciate F1.. but NASCAR is just stupid

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like a lot of forms of racing...

but Corporate Pretty Boy bumper cars isn’t one of them.

by RollBirdsRoll on Oct 28, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you ever go to a race in person, it may change your mind

racing is impossible to capture on TV. But in person, it’s completely compelling (at least to me). Those machines are crazy – you feel the cars as they go by.

Plus, the fans are a sideshow like no other.

by all4tookie on Oct 28, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get the idea of racing around a completely circular track

Surely the whole skill of racing is judging the track, taking different lines, judging and using the various corners and textures of the circuit etc.

Just going round and round in a big oval seems a bit ridiculous to me.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know nothing about mechanics

or technique. And admittedly a pretty dumb premise. But: crashes. LOUD NOISES. Man-made machines going fast.

by all4tookie on Oct 28, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me neither.

I love watching other types of racing… Rally, F1, LeMans, etc. But Nascar really does nothing for me.

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 28, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure baseball got more than a few converts last night

my girlfriend has always been a bit apathetic about baseball (comes naturally when you’re from Baltimore). I thought she was going to have a heart attack a few times in the last four innings.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 28, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

My friend from Houston...who surprisingly doesn't really care about baseball..I mena she has the Astros why doesn't she watch them?

She watched the game last night and said it was so exciting and now she is getting out of something she said she would do tonight to watch the game tonight. Well done David Freese, you have gained baseball fans.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

My wife loves the tension of the World Series

but won’t watch regular season games. That’s where you develop the love/hate for the game. Just being in it for the WS is too much like a one night stand. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

I want more... More baaaacon!

Jim Gaffigan

by blueinmemphis on Oct 28, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh you know

There was a zombie virus outbreak, the Cards were all infected, and they refuse to die and forced a Game 7….you know, just regular baseball stuff.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

two things from the morning buzz

Bernie reported that for the first time, the stadium was shaking.
(Now, I’ve seen Bernie in person, and let me tell you, it would take a lot to shake that guy’s chair. Just sayin’.)

A cubs fan called in to the DP show and asked if Colby Lewis was cheating because he saw some HD moisture of some sort “glistening” … sorry

glistening
on his ballcap, and he kept going to it.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

it would take a lot to shake that guy’s chair.

heh. so true.

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can believe it

When we left 20min after the game ended when we were walking under the stadium to get out it sounded like the old kiehl.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why did Descalso

replace Furcal last night at SS. Was Furcal injured somehow?

by ridgesee on Oct 28, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Double switch situation I think.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, double switch

Furcal made the last out in the 8th, so Motte went into the leadoff spot and Descalso went into the 8th spot for Rzepczynski.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

SBN screwed up

Why did Descalso replace Furcal? Is Furcal injured somehow?

by ridgesee on Oct 28, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they did a double switch to get

The pitcher farther down the lineup

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 28, 2011 10:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yup

Can’t afford to have the pitcher spot come up when you’re trying to rally from a two-run deficit.

LOLOLOLOL

by mojowo11 on Oct 28, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because TLR

tony had done yet antoher double switch and was screwed. So then we had DD at short and FREAKING THERIOT at 2nd.

I just wish we could pinch hit for the pitcher and leave the damn positions alone.

by sdrone on Oct 28, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually thought Tony was great last night

Played must win in a must win and put guys in positions to overcome two runs from Jaime leadoff walks and three errors and two late dingers plus a pitcher scoring thanks to a wild pitch and an extra inning dinger. No problem with Tony last night

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 5:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Man SBN was weird last night

After Freese tied it up in the ninth I hopped online to share a WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO with y’all, but the VEB front page was showing 7-4 in the box score and 2 overflow threads. So I reloaded and then it was 4-3 with one overflow thread. I reloaded again - tied 2-2 with just the original game thread.

It was like freaking Memento or something.

by Andyfantastic on Oct 28, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Zombie Cardinals...

…have infected SBN.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 28, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm having similar issues right now

where threads disappear from the main page.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 28, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you sure they weren't destroyed?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 28, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got this on twitter last night when I called for a Chef Rhodes Zombie Attack...

@ArthritisRhodes: @swmrnbk @boxcar_fritz Chef Rhodes is gon’ bussa cap in yo bitch asses if you keep bein funny.

by swmrnbk on Oct 28, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I have no idea how im even moving this morning

Must try and get work done.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 28, 2011 10:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I GOT LAID LAST NIGHT!!!!!

oh, never mind. that was just david freese.

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

David Freese looked like that after he got shredded

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

i can only imagine

that David Freese got more action last night that all of us combined in our entire lives.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 28, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

30 guys just beat him up and tore off his clothes

 I mean, if one is into that kind of thing

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

SBN is not being my friend today.

It must think I have a better chance with David Freese and it is jealous.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

It clearly thinks I have a better chance with David Freese and is jealous.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Over/Under on comments today

Yesterday’s threads: 1177, 671, 1451, 1491, 1071, 1087, 1036. Total of 7984

Over/Under is 10,000 ?

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 28, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

if we win?

fucking 10,000,000

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

so you're all saying

over 9000

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

winnar

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 28, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

THE MAFIA IS BACK IN TOWN! LONG LIVE THE MAFIA! ZOMBIE CARDINALS LURCH ON!

THE SCENT OF UNDEATH GETS ON YOU!
And it smells like Berk.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I love that everything I read about them today is

‘They will not die! Kick them, stab them, knock them down and they just keep coming back!’
and all I can think is
BRRAAAIIIIIIIINNNNSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

get some runs

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

after those first innings, it seems they may be in need of such.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Texas' only chance is to call in

native son Woody Harrelson as a professional zombie killer. These people wearing the birds on the bat are not human. They have died many times but appear obviously to this fact.

by jjray on Oct 28, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I was born in STL and live

no more than four miles from Busch III but feel Nolan Ryan’s pain. I almost wish they wouldn’t keep showing him in utter agony each time the Cards come back from the dead. It must be a horrifying sight from his perspective.

by jjray on Oct 28, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

every good zombie movie needs a reaction shot.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

wait

this is not a movie

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prospect watch:

pet prospect Jeremy Patten is subsititute teaching today at Mrs. Scoot’s school. Also, he is checking stub hub for tickets and trying to get in contact with someone from the organization to hook him up for tonight.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Anyone ever have an issue with fake tickets?

The gf and I were in the extra bleachers above the Rangers bullpen last night on the aisle. This guy comes up and he asked us to make room so he could carry his handicapped son to their seats in the middle of the row. I offered to just trade our tickets for his so it would be easier for him and his son.

We take the tickets and go sit down after moving a family over. Then another guy shows up and says we are in one of his seats. We get up and go ask one of the aisle workers to check everyone’s tickets so we can get our seats. At this point the game has already started, it wasn’t going well and I was realizing the path to hell really is paved by good intentions.

The worker goes through everyone’s tickets and basically just has the family move over so we can sit. He however gave us the tickets for those seats. Later on my gf went out to go smoke. When you leave the stadium they scan the ticket and mark your hand. When you come back in they scan it again. When she tried to leave the ticket came up invalid. They let her go smoke and come back in though.

I’m assuming someone made some fake tickets. Anyone ever hear of anything like this? The one that came up invalid was from stubhub.com

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

If you tell stubhub they'll refund it.

I mean she got back in so it’s not a huge deal but they will.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our original tickets were bought from the Cardinal website

Wasn’t a big deal once we got a seat. Although if she had gotten kicked out or something I would have been really pissed at the situation

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

what's possible

is that the person who sold the stubhub ticket, tried to get in anyway and likely got there early. I’ve never had it happen to me, and I’ve never done that to someone who’s bought a ticket from me on stubhub, but I have heard about it before.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

right

that’s why I don’t understand how the people got in anyway

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

They may not have noticed at the entrance

Or if it was the family of 5’s ticket then maybe some scanned and the ticket scanner saw but let them come in anyway.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't think of that.

Seems like a more likely situation than a fake ticket

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Game-tying triple off of Neftali Feliz

Game-winning HR to the deepest part of the park to win in the 11th. Guess we know who our Mr. October is.

And man, when Freese makes an error on the infield, he REALLY knows how to make up for it.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 28, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

sbn keeps re-highlighting old comments

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

my exact thoughts

after last night. Good thing Tony did the double switch with Furcal so he couldn’t switch Freese out.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 28, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

@FortClank's Twitter love letter to David Freese is amusing.

Also, he may be slowing going mad. Or maybe this is a symptom of lycanthropy.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 28, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

A quick word on Napoli

Over on the “game/manager” threads on Tom Tango & MGL’s site, Rally has jumped in occasionally and called Mike Napoli the “God King”, and he’s right. That guy is amazing. After we win this game tonight, I’m fine with them still giving him the MVP.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 28, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

if we win tonight and he does at least something.

lance berkman is your MVP. and he should be.

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also perfectly fine

I’m just sort of in awe of Napoli in this series. First time I’ve really gotten to see him play.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 28, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

After seeing him twist his ankle last night in the replay and then keep playing I'm impressed just by that

Last night when the Ranger fans behind their bullpen started the Napoli chant the rest of the bleachers yelled sucks afterward. We were able to pretty much counter or drown out anything they tried to start.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah there were a ton

I was feeling bad when we sat down. I kept looking around for fellow Cardinal fans to sit down with us. Eventually it filled out to be all Cardinals in our extra bleachers section.

My gf noticed that the best pair of cowboy boots belonged to a Cardinal fan. Texas fans should be ashamed.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still in Craig for MVP camp

It might be lonely after Freese’s big night or after Pujol’s record night.

You take Craig’s hit out of the first 2 games and the series is already over.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'll set up in this camp.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can we talk about Lohse's bunt for a minute?

With a little less charging from Beltre, that could’ve been caught in the air. I don’t know if anyone covers second base on the wheelhouse play, but if so, I think there was a real possibility you could’ve seen a WS-ending triple play there.

by Andyfantastic on Oct 28, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

no

Kinsler was on his way to 1st, Andrus to 2nd and the runner was trailing behind Andrus, paused to see if it was going to be caught. Would have been a pretty easy double play though. If he had bunted it a little harder, however, it would have been bases loaded with no outs.

My question was, why send Jackson up there in the first place? If we had played on another couple of innings, it sure would have been nice to have him available.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 28, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.

by Hootie Who on Oct 28, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

...
No, because what I did was shove it down my pants right away. I don’t think anyone realized I had it.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

there it is

that was the fan who came with his cubs pal and caught-and-released Freese’s home run ball.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing that he didn't fuck a toaster last nite.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

He didn't need one.

Pretty sure that ball would’ve gotten him laid at any point in time.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

this doesn't look frozen enough.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

well I like the color of the original

just put a freeze background or overlay a foreground
/opinion

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why is his shirt not torn in half?

Ask me about the death of five hookers and how Craig James was allegedly involved.

by IsayPetrinoYouSayPaterno on Oct 28, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

So i never post

But i read this daily, literally every day. Im going to the game tonight. And whoever does these photoshops is amazing. I kept shouting “we dont die” at the game last night and was searching for a “zombie cardinal”. U r my hero. Getting this printed at staples today! Can u do one with carp standing over texas, or something to go with a " we mess with texas" theme? It may get national media exposure tonight!

by TK1 on Oct 28, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Win expectancy graph from last night

Sorry if already posted — looks like a seismograph of a huge quake:

(not sure this will work — haven’t embedded one of these before…)


Source: FanGraphs

by DCRedbird on Oct 28, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

my wife said I rolled over this morning

And said “let’s have lots of babies and name them all David Freese!”

I’m awesome and so is she.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 28, 2011 10:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

I, for one, am scared.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 28, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I worry less about the site

and more about a massive influx of velociraptors in the St. Louis Metro Area.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 28, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

so that story you told about the brawl at the wedding

was actually your wedding? I’m so sorry, man.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 28, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

No . Imagine worse.

My wife’s name is Work. She’s kind of abusive. I never get to finish but I’ve constantly got to tinker with her various parts. She expects me to get up early with her and talk to her late at night. She won’t let me drink. She’s always adding things to my to-do list and she never rewards me if I accomplish something.

She’s just one disembodied foot from literally kicking me in the balls.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 28, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

actual lol. one of the best posts i've ever read.
I never get to finish but I’ve constantly got to tinker with her various parts

perfect.

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

this isn't the clearest version of this song

but it’s the best I can find. for you, az

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh!

That’s great…so when’s the baby coming?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is 13 the cutoff for internet usage at your house?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sooooooo.......was it worth the 20 hour trip to the Lou?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

this should be green

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 28, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

My parents went last night

And I was concerned that they may have left when it was 7-5 late. I told my mom via email that I hope they stuck around last night, her reply:

“Hell yeah we stayed”

by jeff_abs on Oct 28, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

who would leave? i can't believe people left. the thought never ever crossed my mind

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 28, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

St. Louis bound on the Megabus from Chicago!

When I booked this ticket home three weeks ago, the World Series was still an unlikelihood. Then they beat the Brewers.

I looked at the schedule and saw that it would end on Thursday at the latest. A day before my arrival. There was a way though. Seven games, 1 rainout.

It needed to happen for this to happen — for me to be home to celebrate or commiserate with my city. Just as the Cardinals path to Game Seven was a tightrope, so to was the path to me seeing it. And here we are.

When everything lines up like that, ladies and gentlemen, only one word is appropriate. Destiny.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 28, 2011 10:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

no no no

The word is “DENSITY”

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 28, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

and that's great.

I’m jealous.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 28, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's DENSITY

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

come on, y'all.

i need more wonderfully done pictures to put up on my facebook.

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I got some ideas for some good ones

but I don’t have photoshop on the work computer so it will have to wait for later today

by LandSickness on Oct 28, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

there's a pic going around on FB of a topless chick

with the full Cards logo painted across her chest if you’re looking for Cards related pics. Nice artwork

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've had about three friends share it so far.

Just wait and it’ll come around.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where is the link?

just want to check out the art work.

by jjray on Oct 28, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay.

NSFW

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

aren't you at work?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I work at home. ;-D

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

then you can never look at that link

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, since I am the boss

I get to break the rules when I feel the need to.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

y'know, I just can't come down on fans walking out like all the sportscasters are doing

Some people have work. Some people have to drive a few hundred miles. They’re sitting there in their hundred-dollar suits spewing disgust at the walk-outs. Dude, some people have young kids. They can’t just leave them with the nanny.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Those fans should know they need to stay and face the media after a game like that.

/wait…

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

speaking of kids

how about the kid that Beltre almost fell on and then he said something to the kid and rubbed his head? Then as Beltre was walking away you could hear the kid yell “YOU MISSED IT!”. I just had to laugh.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

i thought it was a deeper voice that yelled

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It sounded like a little kid voice to me.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

It didn't sound like the kid to me, either.

Sounded like an adult behind him. That and I think it was yelled while the kid was laughing.

Still was funny though. :)

WWCD? CDGAF.

by JStymie on Oct 28, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe so.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, my parents were at the game and left before it was finished

That’s cause my mom needs to sleep because she is a workaholic. Of course, they still stayed up and watched the end on TV, but at least they could go to bed right after instead of find their way home and then go to bed.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least they still watched it.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

They said their logic was the following

As hard as it was to leave a World Series game early, they just didn’t feel like they needed to be there if the Cardinals lost… and didn’t mind watching a win on TV at home if it got to that point.

Maybe this all gets filed under “first world problems” but in the words of the philosopher Ryantherius, it is what it is.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Anyone heard from RB?

He was complaining of the classic signs and symptoms of heart attack last night

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 28, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

a heart attack? I thought that was an orgy

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he hung out with us after the game

Even banned ClemsonGirl from all of SBN.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 28, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok good, was worried about him

Like actual hang out, or Internet hang out

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 28, 2011 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

How do we know if he was wearing pants?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in Texas, so internet hangout.

But his network-wide banning would have been just as effective if he’d done it in person.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 28, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 28, 2011 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

oh look it's another person I hate today

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

guess you didn't get the official notice
Alex Fritz has been banned from Game 7

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Dude..

It’s blockquoted…don’t argue.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

You no go?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 28, 2011 11:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or from IHB?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man I bet she is totally happy

in spite of all the job crap she’s dealt with.

by sdrone on Oct 28, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

soooo hungover....

slept until 10:30

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 28, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's probably still busy with the graph, taped to his toaster.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I was there. Under the press box. I made Bernie shake

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 28, 2011 10:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i'm not sure you should admit that in a public forum

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I made them all shake

Seriously though, there is a metal facade that is part of the press box, and it is where you lean in SRO. the lady attendant tried to get us to stop banging on a couple times, but by the 9th, she had given up and joined in

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 28, 2011 11:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

well now I feel better about the earthquake readiness of the stadium

it’s supposed to sway

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I heard that SRO sucks hardcore

Can’t see anything but 2nd base to the outfield

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

It want ideal

But I was able to see 95% of the action

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 28, 2011 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wasn't

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 28, 2011 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You got to be in the stadium though

That was the loudest and craziest game I’ve ever been at

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

That game

makes up for the dramaless last game of the regular season. The Stl/Hou game was nowhere near as good as the Bos/Balt, ATL/Phi & Bos/Tam games. They needed to make up for that.

One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on Oct 28, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Let him sit

I’m getting tired of his “hitting.”

by sdrone on Oct 28, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

walking?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 28, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

mmmmm holliwalks

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

what about Napoli and Cruz?

I can’t imagine that Napoli’s ankle isn’t swelled some (a lot) and why did Cruz leave after the top of the 11th?

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 28, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Posnanski reports.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

spoiler
He leaped for the ball but awkwardly and meagerly, like someone descending stairs in the dark who doesn’t realize that there is one more step. The ball crashed off the wall, bounced by him, and the Cardinals scored two runs to tie the game and the St. Louis crowd transformed into a jet engine.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

So anybody catch the story in the paper about the 23 year old woman from Arlington?

She didn’t show up to work so she could watch her Rangers win the World Series in Game 6 and was told before she left that if she didn’t show up she’d be fired. Worst. Career Choice. Ever.

I love my Cardinals but in 2006 I had to watch the World Series from a Walgreens tv that got a fuzzy OTA broadcast.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 28, 2011 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

She's 23.

I say it’s worth it.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I bet she can get another job pretty easily

Some company will offer her one just for the free air time on the news.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

any boss that makes you choose between work and the world series isn't worth working for

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 28, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just realized Freese's triple was hit the opposite way.

SUCK IT, EVERYONE.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

that was the first thing i was going to say when i logged on today.

ALL YOU FREESE HATERS CAN SUCK IT

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 28, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

10 AM and 400 comments.

going to be a long day.

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Also, I was at the captains corner "bar" at 615

Yelling “viva el birdos.” no one showed up

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 28, 2011 11:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

maybe we should change the word to 'bacon'

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

i had no idea where it was!

then in like the 7th inning i found it. it was right by my seats. but fritz said third level, so i was so confused.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 28, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Usually is.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's on the third level!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

quiet you.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll grab a jpeg copy of this

on the off-chance I ever make it back to Busch some day (sniff…)

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of good beer, Fritz

the APA I brewed last weekend, (I tweeted you about it), is having some issues… the fermentation has stalled so far. I’m gonna give it a little more time & hopefully it will finish out ok. at least my basement room smells nice and hoppy!

"There's only one way to play baseball, "the Cardinals' way." - George Kissell 1920-2008

by Supergus on Oct 28, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

might try warming or cooling it a bit?

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 28, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to game 7.

Just booked a flight. I do not, however, have tickets yet. So maybe I’m just going to St. Louis to stand around.

Any words from the wise on acquiring said tickets? Stubhub’s been rising slowly all morning — is hoping a last-minute scalp dumb?

by Pegasus on Oct 28, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

And, done. Sitting in 434.

Headed to Busch Stadium for Game 7 of the 2011 World Series.

I just pooped a little.

by Pegasus on Oct 28, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Try it. If it fails, go to a nearby bar and watch the game.

They open the gates at the stadium for stragglers in the 7th inning. Have fun.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Si.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, wasn't sure

I remember seeing a lot of people standing outside the fence in the outfield area last night.

Looks like thats what me and the gf are doing tonight

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 28, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I might be down there as well.

Can you really see anything from there? Does someone usually have a radio or something?

I’ll definitely be downtown, but I haven’t come up with a plan of action yet.

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 28, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, Uncle Pennybags

You can just up and pick up a day-of plane ticket and grab a ticket? What do you do for a living, and can I be your assistant…

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 28, 2011 12:23 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

If you have some guts

Prices will probably start to drop with an hour to go.

I know of a guy who parks in one of the stadium garages and has a printer in his car.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Oct 28, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Craig or Holliday tonight?

What should the lineup be? Furcal has looked like a bum with a bat also

by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 28, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Furc has been getting BABIP'd

I can think of three line drives right at someone

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 28, 2011 11:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

depends on how hurt Holliday is

if the injury will affect him in the field I’d rather not see him out there. Would love to see him come through in a big pinch-hit situation though — I feel bad for him

by matt man on Oct 28, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be fine with either

Holliday the better player and all…….but those two indefensible mental mistakes mean I wouldn’t complain if Craig started.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 28, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Furcal in for sure

Matty I’m not so sure about…

my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 28, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit!

 I laughed out loud at work! You get me with those every time.

by illcowboy on Oct 28, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

AWESOME

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

despite slight concerns about GOB-poking….

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a couple requests, need some photoshop help

Me and some buddies will be at the game and are getting some signs printed up. If anyone could do an “angry” carp vs. Chuck norris (as walker, yexas ranger) pic with a “who would REALLY win in a fight” caption. Also was trying to think of a “we mess with texas” pic. Any help, watch for them at the game tonight.

by TK1 on Oct 28, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I may head down to the gates...

…with a “The Cardinals are coming. Tra-la, Tra-la” sign.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 28, 2011 12:26 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

nice

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what does David name his restaurant?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

It's an ice cream place.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

sports bar?

maybe he buys into an Applebees chain and changes the name to AppleFreese?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm laughing.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Freese and Lance Berkman

The Video Aw shucks (giggle)

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Lol that is awesome.

I really like Berkman a lot.

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 28, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have developed an exaggerated affection for him

if he keeps up this endearing banter, coupled with his clutchy 3 for 5, 3 rbi behavior, i may go over the edge and become stalkeresque

by westsidecards on Oct 28, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn that folksiness!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy to like a guy who puts up a .400-odd wOBA

and is earning <$10m. Especially if he seems a genuinely cool person.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

TODAY IS CHRIS CARPENTER DAY!!!!!!!!

for the last time this year. For that, I’m very excited, and also a little sad

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 28, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

it's more like all hands on deck.

I hope Jaime gets an RBI out of his ordeal.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

but Fritz

it’s SO COLD.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know whether to rec this or hate you for invoking such memories.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I read this

And just stole 3 bases.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

lineup predictions!

should:

furcal
freese
pujols
craig
berkman
molina
jay
punto
carpenter

will:

furcal
theriot
pujols
berkman
craig
freese
molina
jay
carpenter

do subjunctive better

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 28, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't think Theriot will hit #2

Most likely Craig. Which is fine by me.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

By that rationale

shouldn’t Craig but 2nd? With Pujols 4th.

My main worry here is that, sans Holliday, our lineup vs lefties looks so much weaker than it does against righties. Berkman really isn’t that great against LHP, so we’ve really only got one genuinely very good hitter there (Pujols).

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Freese, Craig and Yadi are all slightly better against lefties I think

but none of them have a massive career platoon split, and Berk/Jay/pretty much whoever we play at 2B all suffer quite badly vs LHP. I definitely think our lineup looks much more stout with a righty on the mound, sadly.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is funny

because it’s damn near the exact quote we’ve been paraphrasing all year…

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 28, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would work for me yeah

But it’s a lefty on the mound tonight, no?

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Harrison is a lefty

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

oops...

meant hitting as a righty…

by guayzimi on Oct 28, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

these types of mistakes are to be expected today

see, Fritz didn’t even catch his official ban from the stadium tonight. I’m glad I was able to point that out for him.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it would have been sad if he had driven all the way up there, paid for parking and all that.

You really saved him.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Saint Louis Cardinals are pleased to announce that the Belize ambassador to the United States, Alejandro Fritzaria, will be throwing out tonight’s first pitch before joining Stan Musial in his gold plated rocket suite.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad that's not you.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right...

/applies fake mustache

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!

Two things:

1. Columbia = mass hysteria. An hour after the game at Dobbs outside, people were chanting “LET’S GO CARDS,” “FUCK TEXAS” and a thousand more. Then two Cubs fans were running around saying Let’s go Cubs and then a FUCK the Cubs chant started.

 2. The place where I watched had neighbors who were Texas Rangers fans (fairweather naturally). Anyway when Hamilton hit the homer, they screamed FUCK THE CARDS and knocked on the wall. Then when we won, not me, but a guy who had been drinking for the next 15 minutes kept hitting his door and saying “what’s the score?” (They were douchebags about it, but then again the Rangers fans were too).

Anyway that kid has a broken thumb and a sore knee now (also going to Game 7).

Last night = pure awesome. I would say more but I’m going to be late to class (I’m still going? Yeah…)

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 28, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm trying to come up with a David Freese song Geiger-style but I can't think of which song to start with.

Help!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm thinking more poppy and stuff.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Freese is in the hooooouse toniiiiiight

Everybody gonna have a good time
And he gon’ drive in hundred runs
Another title for our fans

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 28, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean this is what I keep coming back to.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS IS HOW WE DO IT

It’s Friday night and I feel all right

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Speaking of Friday

You could do it to ‘Friday’

You could even work lineup construction into it :p

by Danrarbc on Oct 28, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

again I point out,Texas ended our happy flight streak

Texas is on a ridiculous streak of their own; havent lost back to back games in well over a month now.

DENSITY

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

On 10/28/2006, Wainwright's strike out of Inge

for a most wonderful Birthday present. Last night David Freese’s HR was another awesome gift.

I wonder what the Cards have in store tonight.

by gocards62 on Oct 28, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

i'm guessing DOOM.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

STOP SPOILING OUR EST FUN :[

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the least productive day of work in human history.

I am taking work I’ve done on previous days, and setting it on fire. That’s how unproductive today is.

by Pegasus on Oct 28, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Just told a customer I'll get to their project on Monday

and they totally understood why.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

aren't you going to game seven?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 28, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

so, least productive half day

by Pegasus on Oct 28, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read the BCB and the RR game threads

I just can’t get over how so many people let jealousy and hatred eat at them like that.

"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter

by cardsfan59 on Oct 28, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really thought...

at least some fans got behind their league, but looking at the Angels/Brewers/Reds blogs this doesn’t appear to be holding.

by guayzimi on Oct 28, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all honesty

If it was Milwaukee in this thing, I’m pretty sure we’d all be rooting for Texas. Not quite as rabidly, perhaps, but still.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have been rooting for Milwaukee

If only to give Cub fans one more thing to be annoyed about.

by bailorg on Oct 28, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could root for the Reds or Brewers...

but probably not the Cubs. If they win the pennant that will ruin an important tradition.

by guayzimi on Oct 28, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be rooting for Milwaukee.

I’ve always had a large soft spot for them, dating back to the AL days. They’re just like us, except for without the banners.

by mattisnotfrench on Oct 28, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have been rooting for Texas if it were anyone but us.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I very likely would have

Though I would have had a tough time deciding between the Rangers and Diamondbacks.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

Probably would have picked the Rangers because they’ve never won.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

schadenfreude not, lest ye be schadenfreuded

of course, given that our gamethread tonight is going to be slightly longer than the Iliad, I guess no one’s really going to take the time to read through it if we lose.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 28, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

a cubs fan friend texted me this morning

that it was a good ass game and he hated me
i told him i was there so he can hate me more and told him to be a good sport and root for the trophy to come to the NL

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 28, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok what's the deal

I thought obstruction was against the rules
there are some mouths with jobs who were saying good job blocking third base

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

On a tag play it's fine

When you aren’t trying to make a play on the runner, it’s not.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 28, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

and I don’t think the block was intentional at all. Somtimes you just end up in the way on a play like that and it worked out to Beltre’s advantage there.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert does it all the time on

The Pickoff ©

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 28, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

again

unintentional or he would do it every time.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that qualified as obstruction

I’m still not convinced he was out.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 28, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

5000 cameras in the place and not a good angle with any of them

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

IS THERE NO JUSTICE FOR RYAN LUDWICK

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It looked to me like he was out even though it was difficult to tell.

You can see his arm bend on the replay and appear to be at an inch or so from the bag when he was tagged.

The good news is though, IT DOESN’T MATTER!

GAME SEVEN BABY!

That is sooooo not funny - Maize N Brew Dave

by jeepnut on Oct 28, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

the problem is they never showed a shot where you can see both Holliday's left hand AND the tag

not Holliday’s right hand (which hit Beltre’s foot) but his left hand.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 28, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm just trying to get a clarification

and mostly trying to keep us smarter than the “broadcasters”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at our bullpen

Salas threw 48 pitches yesterday; I don’t expect to see him tonight.

Lynn threw 32, Mott threw 27, and the rest of our guys threw 10 or less. I think it’s safe to say that our bullpen wasn’t rocked too badly and should be fine for tonight.

by hr on Oct 28, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm starting to think our bullpen is exhausted.

I mean, I know they couldn’t keep just shutting down everyone forever, but every pitcher seems to be giving up runs lately.

by sdrone on Oct 28, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not so much exhaustion as they know our gameplans now.

that’s the one thing that might get at Carp. they’ve seen him a lot already.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gameplans change, especially when you have as many pitches as Carp.

As long as his pitches have good movement, he does well. It really all comes down to fooling the hitter, even if they know what pitch you’re throwing.

by chriswallace on Oct 28, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carp

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 28, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

's pitched pretty well in his appearances vs TX so far though....

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 28, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to imagine Motte as a shutdown closer in the post-season, for that reason

once a team sees him 3 or 4 times in a series, you’ve got to think they’ve got a decent handle on his fastball, even if it is a great pitch. Maybe.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as it's middle half and down, he does alright. Typically he has trouble with that though.

Sometimes balls find holes and he’s been a bit unlucky in that regard, especially in game 2.

by chriswallace on Oct 28, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still Cardinals related:

St. Louis Business Journall is reporting that the Cardinals are 95% finished on a $95 million dollar Phase 1 for Ballpark Village. Will include new Cardinals Hall of Fame and restaurant with tiered seating looking into stadium…

/end of nerdy business me for the day

2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!

by mtzxc on Oct 28, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe they'll open a concession stand too this time though?

2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!

by mtzxc on Oct 28, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It truly does amaze me that they haven't figured out a business plan to take advantage

of the most valuable commercial property in all of St. Louis.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 28, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I do think the major decisions by Centene

and Peabody to not build new headquarters there kind of messed up the plans…There was a list of companies that wanted to locate there, but once the major hitters left, everyone else did too.

2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!

by mtzxc on Oct 28, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. BPV's draw was

always “new modern development with iconic connections next to the Cardinals”. Without major companies wanting to have their corporations overlooking the stadium (and the publicity associated with that), the whole thing just fell apart.

They should have moved MUCH quicker early on to get Centene locked in; before they decided to move to Clayton.

2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!

by mtzxc on Oct 28, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

"once the major hitters left, everyone else did too."

I feel bad that I can’t come up with a good baseball team simile for this. Some unfortunate Marlins team? Expos? Somebody come up with one.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Todd Zeile, cleanup hitter.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

The Cardinals have never been bad. What are you talking about.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly they have not

Zeile usually hit 5th. Whitten was cleanup

by dmiles on Oct 28, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yet when Whiten hit 4 HRs in a game.

He hit 6th.

It was what it was.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

For those who remember this

Last night I felt like Thomas Hill after Laettners turnaround shot in ’92 to beat Kentucky when Hill was standing around not moving with his hands on his head in shock.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 28, 2011 12:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

CARP

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

does anyone know when the cardinals take batting practice tonight?

and are you allowed to go down and watch the practice in the good seats, or can you only go to your ticketed seat?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 28, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

AVERT YOUR EYES

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

gates only open 2 hours before gametime though, right?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 28, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

We went to game 5 and were there about 3 1/2 hours before game time.

This was in Arlington. The Rangers were in the middle of BP when we arrived. You may want to get there about 4 or 4 1/2 hours early to ensure seeing Cardinals BP. That is, if they’re letting people in already.

by chriswallace on Oct 28, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

z

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

ffs

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing.

It’s what Chris Carpenter presses to unmark comments, though.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

try pressing Rz

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slider low and away….swing and a miss.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

There’s another post queued up for 1:00pm as this one is already at 673 comments.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 28, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Since i can't afford tickets to game 7

where is a place near the stadium within walking distance that is a great place to watch the game? It’s been awhile since I’ve been back here home. I’ve been going to the Landing for most games that i haven’t been to yet. Any recommendations would be awesome.

Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.

by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 28, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

How stupidly packed is it going to be tonight?

I still haven’t figured out where I’m going tonight… I just don’t want to be standing somewhere where I can’t see what’s going on.

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 28, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol I gotta work too.

I get off at 4:30, then drive an hour from St. Louis INTO Illinois to change and pick up my wife, then drive an hour back, find a place to park, and get to Shannon’s or wherever.

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 28, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

why park downtown? take the Link or a bus.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 28, 2011 1:41 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

might do that.

Wife gets a little freaked out on packed metro trains. I normally ride, so I’m used to it.

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 28, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to Hooters in 2006

And then ran to the stadium afterwards and got in.

I have no idea if that Hooters even still exists, but it was a good time.

by mojowo11 on Oct 28, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Proud

I am walking around the office this morning with my head held high as a proud Cardinals fan. That game was a microcosm of my life. Lots of mental lapses and stupid errors. But never quitting or giving up.

by VinegarBend on Oct 28, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Is it bullet-proof?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

CWDGAF.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool post up at BtBS

David Freese now holds the biggest WPA performance for a post-season game.

Also, look who has the number 11 WPA game for pitchers in the post-season…

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

And Berkman is now fifth all time...

and Hamilton is probably in the top 20. All from one game. That should clinch it for anyone arguing that it was the most exciting WS game ever.

by guayzimi on Oct 28, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, just realized a beautiful symmetry

We traded half-shirt for half-shirt. It’s the circle of life…

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 12:28 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

hahahaha

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Feliz ain't Pujols

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently Cruz is somewhat questionable today.

He’ll be playing injured if he plays. Strained right groin.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Aaron Boone says Matt Holliday only needs four fingers.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

CUT IT OFF! RONNIE LOTT DID

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Adams

“If that’s the choice the wanna make, I think we will be in favor of that. "

On Carp on 3 days rest.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 28, 2011 12:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Ruh roh.

"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter

by cardsfan59 on Oct 28, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

what a phony.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That boy ain't near as smart as somebody told him he was.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was a Padre

He doesn’t know baseball is ever played this late in October.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 28, 2011 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

more like a walk-off role...

Tip your waitresses, folks.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 28, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Irony

After all the irony of the Cards beating the Phils in the NLDS after the Phils had swept the Braves which allowed the Cards to get in, and the Cards getting to host Game 7 tonight because (in part) Fielder homered in the All Star game; wouldn’t it be incredible if Rhodes struck out Hamilton or Murphy at a crucial moment in a Cards victory.

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 28, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

with all the inexplicable things this postseason

it seems a little dangerous to make predictions

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to mention the colossus

is getting a ring either way

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you're a midwest ex-pat, it's amazing how people are coming out of the woodwork to talk about the Cards

it’s like “hey, you’re the Cardinal fan guy, aren’t you? Did you see that game? Wow, that sure was exciting!”

Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President

by peppermartin on Oct 28, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

what high school did you go to

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet!

I went middle-of-nowhere about 3/4 hour SW of Springfield MO

Stupid UCL's.

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 28, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's really amazing

but it was pretty easy to pick out the jumping and screaming person in a crowd last night

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Of course, wearing team polos also makes me stand out.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Craig

Kind of hoping he finds his way into the starting lineup tonight. Guy is swinging the bat WELL right now. He needs 4-5 at bats tonight.

by Stanley1 on Oct 28, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He seems to just feast off of Ogando

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 28, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's wide open tonight

If Texas wins, it’s probably Napoli. If we win, I could see Craig, Berkman and Freese all having a shot at it (depending on who does what tonight).

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i want adron

his mojo needs to be in the line-up, not just in the dugout w/a rally towel (oscar performance again last night). plus, i want to see him score from first on a single. i love me some speed!

by westsidecards on Oct 28, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

if there is a legitimate injury, yes

but you have to replace them with someone who plays the same position, IIRC. so could not remove Holliday and add Wainwright.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

i thought you could

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes you can.

We covered this yesterday.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

was in the morning thread, right?

gotta go find that

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Link to my post with details and source link

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

gracias sir

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 28, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bob Forsch throwing first pitch. Chris Daughtry singing national anthem.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

YAY!

Followed by “why?”

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 28, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

my thought process exactly.

at least it isn’t Chris Daughtry singing God Bless America, in which case I might have offed myself in the 7th inning stretch

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he was awesome

It was very quality as well as patriotic and it breathed life into our team after the downer top of the 7th. Everything about it was excellent

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 1:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nice Cheers reference

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 28, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because Bob Forsch is a Cardinal hero, that's why.

Oh…..wait……you were talking about the singer? nevermind

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did somebody say Bob Forsch?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There you are.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we can definitely say that the Forsch is with us.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worst zsymmbroskuusi symbol ever.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

for the worst sabermetrics guy ever

it’s fitting

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I'm just going to go sit outside the stadium and smile...

I’ve done one and a half work-related things so far…

"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig

by pattimagee on Oct 28, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

screw this, i can't work

headed home to head to the airport to head for st. louis to head to the game. fuck yeah, zombie cards.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by Pegasus on Oct 28, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

ESPN just showed the shredding

That’s…..disturbing.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

My wife just got her part 3 boards results back and she passed the whole part!

Now she just has part 4 in a couple of weeks!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 28, 2011 1:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

cool. congrats to Mrs. Buddha

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need a nap.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, folks

Yankees fan here. Just want to stop by and say no matter what happens tonight, the Cardinals gave the baseball world a ride this postseason. What a show last night, and best of luck to you tonight.

Follow me on twitter @nyybrandonc

Writer/Editor for Pinstripe Alley, Blueshirt Banter

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball."

"Every day is a great day for hockey."

by Brandon C. on Oct 28, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks!

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 28, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

GET OUT OF HERE

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

you notice he didn't say that he hoped that we'd win?

just good luck

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really am not a fan of that form of thinking. All the AL teams are the Yankees’ rivals, and I hope for all of them to lose every time out there.

That being said, at the beginning of the series I said this

“I hope the Rangers win in 5, or the Cardinals win in 7”

So that’s who I’m rooting for!

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"Every day is a great day for hockey."

by Brandon C. on Oct 28, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're just yanking your chain.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must refrain from commenting.

Thank you for stopping by.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have been following baseball since I was 7 years old in 1991

In those 20 years, this will only be the fifth World Series game 7, and obviously the first featuring the Cardinals. Cherish it, people.

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by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

SEDGWICKS

Cards fans in Chicago, is this the place to be tonight? Anyone there last night>

I went to the ND vs USC game saturday only to watch the irish lose, flew to texas, watched the Cards lose Sunday. Watched them hand the game over on Monday. Flew to STL on Wednesday, only to have the game get postponed and have to sell my tickets. Took a train back to Chicago Wednesday night. Had to watch the game last night in Harry Carrays of all places due to my bud’s birthday dinner. Now I’m tempted to drive down to STL for the game but think I might be bad luck.

Talked to the waitress at Sedgwicks on the phone and they are out of tables and recommend getting there by 330 to guarantee a spot.

by ShannonIsn'tSober on Oct 28, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Sedgwicks...

…will be a madhouse. In a good way. Wall to wall Cardinals fans tonight, I’m sure. Fortunately, they’ll open up the basement lounge and turn on the game, but the atmosphere’s a bit more subdued down there.

Go. Get a bucket of beer because: a) it’s only 18 bucks for a five-pack and b) you’ll have trouble getting a new bottle quickly what with the mass of Cards fans.

Also, they have Cardinal Bombs.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 28, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

my VEB is dying

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

It's only UN-dying

It will gain momentum and pretty soon the VEB horde will be banging on the doors of the abandoned factory where the survivors are holed up.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braaaaaaiiiiinnnnsss....... neeeeddd..... braaaaiiiiinnnnnssssss.....

especialllllllyyyyyy…. hrrrrabossskkyyyy….

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 28, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you saying Al needs a brain

or to eat Al’s brain?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

could go either way

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's easier to watch that mess of a game on MLBN now that I know how it turns out.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 28, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

3/4 of the way back to STL.

Looking out the window, there’s a cloud that looks like a seal floating on it. Behind it, another cloud follows that looks like a crab, pincers raised menacingly.

Does that mean anything?

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 28, 2011 1:25 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Crab?

Must have something to do with clubhouse Cancer.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOO

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punto shredded your pants?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hah!!

undies…

"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig

by pattimagee on Oct 28, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last night, I didn't want the season to end

Today, I don’t want the season to end.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 28, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Per Bernie

Sprained wrist for Lego. Chambers on the roster for tonight.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang

by EinFesteBusch on Oct 28, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Predicted Lineup

1. Furcal – SS
2. Schumaker – CF
3. Pujols – 1B
4. Berkman – LF
5. Craig – RF
6. Freese – 3B
7. Molina – C
8. Punto – 2B
9. Carpenter – P

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang

by EinFesteBusch on Oct 28, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

my stab

1. Furcal – SS
2. Craig – LF
3. Pujols – 1B
4. Berkman – RF
5. Freese – 3B
6. Molina – C
7. Theriot – 2B
8. Jay – CF
9. Carpenter – P

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's just...

Jay goes 0-15 when starting, then 2-4 off the bench. Does this matter?

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang

by EinFesteBusch on Oct 28, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

SSS LOLWTFBBQ

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we might see Theriot against the lefty...

call me crazy. Then he’ll be replaced by Punto in the fourth when Ogando comes in.

by guayzimi on Oct 28, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay plays, I think.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

sbn'd

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang

by EinFesteBusch on Oct 28, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's gonna have a moment.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Count your fucking money

/notserious

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by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

screw that

I want him to steal home

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 28, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY

CHAMBERS IS STEALING HOME!

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I would literally crap my pants if this happened

but the cleanup would be worth it

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 28, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

BRUMMER

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

STOP RIGHT THERE

I GOTTA KNOW RIGHT NOW

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 28, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow. that sucks for holliday

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 28, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chambers is on the World Series roster replacing Holliday per John Marecek

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

@CardsInsider
St. Louis Cardinals
Rookie OF Adron Chambers will replace OF Matt Holliday on the roster for Game 7. Holliday out injured with a sprained right wrist. #STLCards

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 28, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Chambers would be a fairly improbable hero

But here’s to hoping it doesn’t come to that.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Oct 28, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the speed.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the subject of Ryan Theriot

maybe I am forgetting just how awful he was for a while, but I really think if he had been playing at 2B a lot, with maybe 5 starts at SS over the year, and batting 7th or 8th for most of the year, with Furcal playing SS all year… I would be pleased with his acquisition. I hated on him as much as anyone mid-summer, and I don’t take any of that back, but I really think he’s a pretty competent bench MIF- just sucked to see him starting and leading off all damn summer.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

most people would agree with you

If he was platoon with skip, it would have been a great pickup

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 28, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't even care anymore, we're down to one game for all the marbles.

As long as Theriot doesn’t GIDP and we are in a position to win, I’m happy with this year.

by chriswallace on Oct 28, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boggs just misses Super 2.

(not that it really matters)

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Bernie talking with Chris Rose

Sounded like Bob Costas’ story of the 1986 WS…trophy ceremonies on again, off again, running everywhere.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang

by EinFesteBusch on Oct 28, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

So ...

The undead Zombie Cardinals, are a win away from becoming un-undead, and achieving eternal life? Last night was a pretty good summation of everything we love, hate, and everything-in-between about baseball. Seems everybody on both teams had an equal share of hero and goat moments (except Matt Holliday, who only gets to be a goat). It will be sad when this series is over. I kind of wish it was best of … more games.

by hangingfromatree on Oct 28, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

nah, we get ALL THE BRAINS

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you mean to get him off the roster for this game? don't know how they can

he’s definitely not really injured, and I’m pretty sure MLB would be really anal about not allowing fake injury moves.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lynn?

uh, not that I saw. he left after throwing 48 pitches…

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

that was Salas. still, he threw a lot.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

Lynn got a sore neck from turning his head so quickly to watch Cruz’ bomb go out.

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 28, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Afternoon Thread

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 28, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Adron chambers is now on the roster!!!

Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."

by cj2k on Oct 28, 2011 2:27 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

RALLY ADRON

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2011 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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