World Series Kind Of A Big Deal Morning Thread
I'm too nervous to say anything interesting right now, not that there's much interesting to say—The St. Louis Cardinals are in an elimination game in the 2011 World Series at home with Jaime Garcia pitching and everybody just-about-healthy. They're a good team, and the Texas Rangers are a good team, and one of those teams will win Game 6 of the World Series. Which will be played! And the Cardinals are in it!
In the grand tradition of rain delay programming, here are some fanposts you might have missed over the last week or so, in no order, ahead of the actual preview post and then the actual baseball game:
- I really enjoyed lancelotlink's fanpost comparing the 2011 regular season to the 2011 World Series, which makes for a surprisingly 1-to-1 analogy so far. By this method, Game 6 will involve Albert Pujols doing a thing and Game 7 will be won entirely with memes and relief pitchers.
- Meanwhile, back in the National League, Pegasus left us with this great travelogue about watching the Cardinals win the pennant (spoiler alert) in Milwaukee.
- I don't think anybody managed to look at the words "I'm Tony La Russa, Bitch," without clicking on them, but when the Cardinals win Game 6 on an incredibly rare look-to-third-fake-a-double-switch pickoff at first base you'll want it handy.
- Likewise, judging by its 51 recs I don't think many people missed Ignatius J. Reilly's The Little Boy, which you should just read, ideally while you are alone, because some dust might fly up into your eyes and people will get the wrong idea about it.
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Mass / Volume = DENSITY!
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 27, 2011 8:04 AM EDT reply actions 11 recs
The bad news...
Now I have to find a way to watch the games that doesn’t include a personal media blackout and MLB Condensed games.
Worse, a Friday night Game 7 (if necessary) means I have no way at all of watching, only finding out Sat. night after the fact.
The good news is…
Every game under these conditions this past month has gone quite well for the Cards (except maybe one)!
Cards fan in Middle East
Just go to a bar.
They’ll have it on.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Oct 27, 2011 9:40 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
maybe not in the middle east.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Gametime is 3 AM here.
I don’t work Fridays (computer for watching)
Don’t have cable TV (ESPN only way to see overseas)
And I’m an Orthodox Jew (no computer, internet, TV, nada till Sat. nite)
Cards fan in Middle East
Can't someone else set things up for you?
I had an orthodox friend growing up and her family hired someone on Friday nights to do everything—turn lights on/off, etc.
By this logic, can’t someone set up mlb.tv on your computer while you’re just sitting there?
In theory, but
A) I’m actually too devout to do somehting like this
B) Not many non-Jews around (Jewish town in Israel)
Cards fan in Middle East
In 2006 they also clinched on Friday nite
and I know for a fact that some Orthodox relatives of mine Stateside found a bar to “walk by” that evening…
Cards fan in Middle East
go to the office and tell your boss you just felt like working extra
have you really never made an exception?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
that won't jive with the missus, tho
And as for Sabbath- no I haven’t, and don’t intend to ever, actually
Cards fan in Middle East
well then, we'll just stick with your good news then and hope you're right
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
The question now is - if I have a way to watch tonite live - do I?
The problem is avoiding finding out anything until Sunday, when I can watch the Condensed games.
This includes avoiding my mom – who is certain to find out ASAP Sat. nite.
Cards fan in Middle East
Well,
That Makes you a far far better man than I.
by dccardsfan1 on Oct 27, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
And I sure as shit don't fucking roll!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 27, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
I'm glad it was you.
I was gonna go there.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you can almost always count on fritz for that
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax.....
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 27, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The only reason I'm happy no Jews on the team AFAIK
Rangers aren’t so lucky.
Smite Kinsler in Game 7!
Cards fan in Middle East
oh dear.
yeah, no one told Bud Selig about Eck when he did the MVP trophy presentation….
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep, contrary to popular belief,
David Mark Eckstein is Roman Catholic.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 27, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Barry Weinberg, the trainer, is Jewish.
On Kol Nidre (Game 5 against the Phillies), he was at Shul, then made it back to the game by about the 4th inning.
Not exactly Sandy Koufax, but not too shabby.
If I had a tagline, this would be it.
by lancelotlink on Oct 27, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this place is restricted, Wang, so don't tell 'em you're Jewish
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
made it back before i did from Kol Nidre...
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
so pissed i only saw like 2 innings of that game
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Walter, it's already posted.
WELL HE CAN UN-FUCKING POST IT! I don’t roll on Shabbas!!!
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 27, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure there will be links out there
that someone is streaming from.
Check here: http://freelivestreaming.net/baseball-live-stream-links/
They usually have at least one stream, just don’t click on the ads or plug-in requests.
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
Disregard.
I didn’t realize your issue was religious.
Too bad you can’t just watch then go to confession. :D
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
I'm pumped
Win or lose it’s been a fantastic ride and I can’t wait to have people over tonight with beer ready for Game 6. I don’t follow the NFL or NBA so this is the pinnacle for me sports-wise.
Go Cards. Two more wins baby.
Good news everyone
Cardinals are in the world series. And they are playing a game tonight.
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Oct 27, 2011 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
okay, so who's going tonight and when and where do you have seats?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
me, 261
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
me, sitting at my kitchen counter.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
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FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 27, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 27, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
by Aranathor on Oct 27, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
by IHeartBoog on Oct 27, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 27, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Oct 27, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Oct 27, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
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Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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President of the Tyler Greene fan club - Wiki - PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE
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Follow me @thestlcardsfan4
by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 27, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I closed it already, asshole
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 27, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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Google+ <
Follow me @thestlcardsfan4
by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 27, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know I'm starting to think you guys just don't care about closure
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, I'm doing it because I know you stopped it because it pissed you off.
And that letting it continue would probably piss you off more.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 27, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I'm infuriated.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
HAVE YOU NO HUMANITY
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
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The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 27, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
by BigMOman on Oct 27, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
by BVHeck on Oct 27, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 27, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This thread makes much more sense with subject lines
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 6:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If this were truly rain delay programming
it would have moar Stavinoha kneeling home runs.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
You didn't like the kneeling Beltre homer?
We were watching and we had just said Beltre was sitting on Carp’s curve before that pitch. "Don’t throw the curve, don’t throw… ahh f*$k.
he seriously should've buzzed him on that one
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
that's the second time I've read about knowing beltre was going to light up the curve
…the first i heard was a guy on twitter called backstop10 who was a catcher and is the “Sr. EVP for the Rangers” whateverTF that means…
What did you guys see specifically? Them taking hacks at the curve and laying off other pitches?
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Beltre had done that same thing and fouled it off about 3 other pitches
and Carp just kept throwing it. It was a law of averages, sooner or later he was going to straighten one out and hit it a long way. He was timing it. I was literally willing Carp to throw him a fastball in and he didn’t listen.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Jim Sundberg...
On a local DFW radio show this morning, Mr Sundberg mentioned that someone had told him that today is the 26th anniversary of his World Series winning slide into home plate that allowed the Royals to beat the Cards to become the World Champs.
This makes for an interesting parallel for us Rangers fans.
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
Maybe it was to push the Series to a Game 7.
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
I think we can all agree that it is in the best interests of baseball and humanity
that this series go to a 7th game.
Make it so.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 27, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Negative.
I can’t agree. My heart couldn’t take it.
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
well our hearts can't not take it. wait.
haha.
how are you feeling? i am so nervous.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I'm feeling
cautiously optimistic, thanks for asking.
If it goes to a Game 7, then I will be feeling very nervous. Just the thought of the possibility that f^%$ing Carpenter pitching… f%$# no!
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
I had missed “The Little Boy”….thank you for linking it,
And thanks to the poster for sharing….absolutely perfect
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 27, 2011 9:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Rumor has it Eckstein is throwing out the first pitch.
For (potential) Game Seven, wouldn’t it just set the crowd crazy if Wainwright came in for the first pitch and dropped a beautiful curve across the plate?
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Oct 27, 2011 9:39 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
He already threw out a first pitch in Game 1
With Sutter and Gibson.
I wish Musial was able to do it, but I don’t know if he can.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I think Ric Flair should throw out the first pitch.
He would style & profile that pitch for a strike! Then, according to many reports, wouldn’t pay his debts…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
He'd use the ceremonial ball as collateral and take out a loan to buy ballpark village.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
WOOO!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Come to think of it, I was kind of Natchin' buying these playoff tickets.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
"That's a good move"

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Cool, I loved Eckstein when he played with us.
2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
Bilingual Twitter
Nexdef'd?
During this postseason run, the Cardinals officially notified Wainwright and his agent that the options for 2012 and 2013 on the righty’s contract have been exercised.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
question prior the big game...
What does nexdef’ed mean?
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Oct 27, 2011 9:46 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
like strauss last night on the moneyball thing
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
i missed the theard last night
I was working on a float for the Alton Parade. Strauss trolling again?
Grit != flat out sucking.
of course, trolling, being an asshat
you know, wednesday
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
Means lagging behind
Like audio/video streams can do online. The program file Nexdef tends to be the culprit with MLB.tv.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Still no subject lines
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 27, 2011 9:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
only once though
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
you can't see me you can't see me
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 27, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
and now that I’m on mobile, I realize how annoying this is…
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 27, 2011 11:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
existential crisis!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
aaaargh. does the full site do that too?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We can see everything fine.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
It’s broken!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
so mean.
Ya something hokey was going on. Fritz posted the fix above.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Well, it comes down to this VEB. I don't want this season to end tonight.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
pregame nervousness has set in.
it’s ten hours before gametime.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 9:55 AM EDT reply actions
And I thought I was just cold.
At least, that’s what I’m telling coworkers.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
it's going to be a long day.
luckily (or unluckily?) i only have one class to worry about.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
having only one class is lucky.
I am having the damnedest time attempting to focus on work.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
heh, same here
Thursday nights mean my lab from 8 to midnight, and we’re currently doing the most important lab of the year (double-slit interference, woo!!!!!)
and all I can think of is how I can cut as many corners as possible and get out of the lab early.
Still not a werewolf.
Freshman year in college
I waited until the NCAA 3rd place game (back when they played it) was over before going to physics lab. I got a lot of dirty looks from both students and the TA when I showed up.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 27, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I would do this
but it’s a time consuming lab and I don’t think I can finish it in an hour or two. And making my partner do all the work and showing up in the last hour would be a really shitty thing to do. Also, it’s a cool lab.
Still not a werewolf.
double slit? yea, cool.
mine was something like kinetic/potential energy, big whoop.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 27, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Skip. I really do. I support him more than most.
But, reading this does not comfort me.
The Cardinals’ second hitter in Game 6 may be the most important of all. If he is standing on first base, Pujols is more likely to see pitches to hit. La Russa has indicated that the crucial assignment could belong to veteran Skip Schumaker.
Whether or not you agree with Mr. Morosi, something about “most important of all”, “crucial assignment” and “Skip Schumaker” being related to each other, doesn’t feel right. Unless of course it was, “Most important of all, you do not want to ensure a crucial assignment to Skip Schumaker.”
Whatever. Prove me wrong Skip. Please! Go 4-5, with 3 runs or something like that.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i think we need to give skip a break.
he made all the plays monday night (even though we sweated out the napoli bomb), has a better arm than jay, and sure as hell looks more competent than jay at the plate right now. now, you can argue whether or not he should be batting second, but i don’t think playing skip in centerfield is the worst decision in the world.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was more harsh than I wanted it to be.
I actually like Skip.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I think it has to do more with Berkman and Holliday beating them than Skip performing.
There is a reason those two bat behind Pujols.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
or if our damn leadoff hitter could freaking get on base.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
If their damn good 3b could stop robbing him of hits...
I haven’t really seen Beltre since his Dodger days. Dude’s still really good.
one of the most annoying things of the series.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
this is true.
Furcal (and others) have laced some balls, only to have them gobbled up by Beltre.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
He did much better bunting,strangely enough
How about a nice half-bunt towards first?
Better yet- to the pitcher. That got him to 2nd on Monday
Cards fan in Middle East
Hey, it worked in 2006!
…but seriously, stop hitting balls to the left side of the infield. Beltre and Andrus are killing us with their defense.
not easy for RH hitters
or our opposite-field-hitting lefties.
I guess that leaves Freese… And Albert-bombs.
And 2006 was classic.“Hit It To The Pitcher”
Cards fan in Middle East
Plus, I think we will see Gentry at center, tonight.
So, don’t hit it there, that dude can run. Lefties, pull! Righties, push!
2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
Bilingual Twitter
can't catch homers.
am i right or am i right?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
fuck you Endy Chavez
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Oct 27, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what Yadi said in Game 7 of the 06 NLCS.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
didn't work out all too well for the mets...
silly “momentum” narratives aside…
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
It seemed to at the time
My uncle (rabid fan) said he was ready to tip the cap at that point in the game.
Made the end even sweeter.
Cards fan in Middle East
with him batting lefty tonight this hopefully shouldnt be a problem
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 27, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
this
If furcal gets on, that would give the 2nd place hitter a chance to bunt him over. Then we can walk Pujols to set up the Holliday / Berkman DP.
No, but in all seriousness. Or 1 and 2 batters have been better for these last few games.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Then we can walk Pujols to set up the Holliday / Berkman DP
heh
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Furcals bad luck
You know, both Texas losses began with Furcal hitting a bullet that Beltre snagged (the first being quite amazing). I just wonder how those games would have gone if those balls get into the corner.
I agree though. He’s GOT to get on somehow.
by YepYouGuessedIt...CardinalRed on Oct 27, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Tuesday I had the AC on
Yesterday it rained all day. This morning I had to turn on the heater. The leaves are brown and gold. The wife roasted some acorn squash for dinner last night…
It’s October in St. Louis. There’s baseball to be played.
Grit != flat out sucking.
how poetic
where’s my plate of roasted acorn squash?
if you’re gonna talk delicious, you better have enough for everyone
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
key to the game that won't be discussed...
jaime garcia has GOT to get through the first inning.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions
(discussed enough)
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Avoid the Capital One Call to the Bullpen

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 23 recs
This might be my favorite so far.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 27, 2011 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It freaks me out when stuff like this gets posted here...
And then quickly shows up in my facebook feed.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I got it by email yesterday
So it was inevitable that it would be on F-B. Do we know each other? I just put it up at the same time I phot here.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
...posted here
put it on FB at the same time. Me no say English good.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
nonononono
do not support him!
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
y'all know a rangers fan made this, right?
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Does that make it less funny?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I do.
I’m very disappointed that no Cardinals fan—and, specifically, no VEBer—created this wonderful bit of humor.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that's what we like to call 'drinking'
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
somebody should do this with the
‘This is patrick’ meme.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
yesyesyesyesyesyes
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This is brilliant
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - Wiki - PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE
Google+ <
Follow me @thestlcardsfan4
by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 27, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm sure fespn milked this, but here's an oldie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFQeHORpw0A
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Jaime's French Toast
MUST BE COOKED EXACTLY AS ORDERED.
"Some guys smoke. Some guys drink. Some guys chase women. I'm a big barbecue sauce guy." Rick Majerus
by Fendi Hotdogbun on Oct 27, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well Puma... How about you berk something about it.
“We’re all human beings,” Berkman said. “People can say, ’It’s no insult to such-and-such.’ But by the same token, teams clearly feel they have a better chance of getting me out than they do Albert if they intentionally walk him to pitch to me. Intellectually, I know that’s probably the case. But in your heart, as a competitor, it rankles you a little bit.”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 27, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 19 recs
SBN has always been
‘a bit wonky’
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
now see here
i’m not the young ’un i used to be
i ration my cotton candy
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
the only food which violates that Not Bigger Than Your Head rule.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Big Puma goin' green.
dig it.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
well he'll be batting as a LH today
and hopefully TLR bats him fourth so he berks the berk out of the ball
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 27, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
the more we say this, the more there will be some bloop hit.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but that's manageable. A grand slam is less manageable.
by chriswallace on Oct 27, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, that would be our pitchers.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
3 of the last 4 pitchers to hit a grandslam have been Cardinals
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
if only Carp had been able to bat
freakin’ AL rules.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't feel like reading the rules.
But I do know that even if it isn’t optional the DH can bat for any defensive player.
It is optional; however, the DH can only be used for a pitcher.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 27, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
no, DH has to bat for the pitcher
but the manager doesn’t have to use a DH
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
What about the pinch-hit bunt?
Couldn’t he just have Lohse or Garcia come in to bunt instead of a position player? Cuz, they definitely practice it more.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
that's not right, is it?
I always understood the rule to be you could designate the DH for any position player but once so designated, it stays with that position (for that game). I don’t know if anyone has ever used it for anyone but the pitcher, but the rule doesn’t preclude this, iirc.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 27, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
thats right in college and high school
but not in the big leagues. I’m pretty sure we’ve had this discussion before.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
ah, ok
I don’t watch/pay attention much to AL baseball until the playoffs. I’ve never looked at the rules and just assumed it was the same as HS/College.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 27, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
. . .
The Designated Hitter rule:
A hitter may be designated to bat for the starting pitcher and all subsequent pitchers in any game without otherwise affecting the status of the pitcher(s) in the game. A Designated Hitter for the pitcher must be selected prior to the game and must be included in the lineup cards presented to the Umpire-in-Chief.
The Designated Hitter named in the starting lineup must come to bat at least one time, unless the opposing club changes pitchers. It is not mandatory that a club designate a hitter for the pitcher, but failure to do so prior to the game precludes the use of a Designated Hitter for that game.
per MLB
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
So you could just let the hitter hit for himself
But if you do that you get no DH the rest of the game.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
don't hitters usually hit for themselves?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
will sbn allow me to comment.... and go!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i think i'm prepared for the consequences
except that one.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
flagged
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
crap
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
hadn't read bgodar's TLR meme
WASH MY BALLS! I’M TONY LA RUSSA, BITCH! … might be the single greatest line ever posted on veb. Well done bgodar! Keep up the good work.
You know, Tony LaRussa just might be
the Rick James of baseball. We are so lucky to have had the pleasure of his performance these many years.
As much as I dislike the word meme, I don't think we're using it correctly anymore.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
MEH-MEE
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Don't call him Ma'am.
He’s no Ma’am, he’s a decent respectable woman.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah!
Wait…
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
indeed, we are not.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, perhaps "reimagining" is the right term
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Alx, perhaps you could
write a fanpost instructing all the vebers how to use the word correctly. God knows we would not want to misuse internet slang. Of course, there is a right way and wrong way to use slang. And the wrong way pisses off Chris Carpenter so I wouldn’t want to do that. Except on the day he is pitching when a pissed of Carp is a good Carp.
Yup. When Jaime's pitching, you make sure his eggs are cooked just so.
When Carp’s pitching, you put sand in his bedsheets.
by Pegasus on Oct 27, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You're right.
F’ that. we’ve got bigger things to think about right now.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 27, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
heh
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
ZOMBIE CARDINALS... DAMP BUT UNDEAD! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE GLOVE, MAFIA!
It is the 27th of Ozzie Extraordinary Time here in Albertofstan.
And there is baseball to be played.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Somebody gave him a job
@MLB_PR
MLB Public Relations
David Eckstein to throw 1st pitch, Vince Coleman delivering game ball b4 #WorldSeries Game 6 tonight 7:30ET on @MLBONFOX
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
VEB: Vince Employment Board!
Way too go!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Look out
behind you, Vince
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 27, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
VINCE
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
"Delivering game ball?"
How is that a thing? You are not good enough to throw out the pitch, but you can walk out and hand someone a ball.
lol, i went back and read that gamethread last night
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 27, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
So THAT'S why they postponed it
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do they even use the Eastern Time zone when referring to this World Series?
We all know nobody on the East Coast is even watching this World Series.
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
I am
actually, I’ve talked to folks here (near DC) and lots of folks are really enjoying the series. Of course, these are people who like baseball and might have watched no matter who was playing.
youneverknow
Game 5 had a higher rating than Monday Night Football
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet still the lowest rated game 5
in 15 years or something, wasn’t it?
That MNF football overnight rating was one of the worst in forever as well, I think.
Historically, no one does well when the World Series and the NFL go head-to-head
Wait, did I just learn something from Dan Caesar?
IDGAF
this is fantastic. Nerves, butterfly stomachs aside, THIS TEAM IS IN THE WORLD SERIOUS AND HAS SHOWN THAT IT DESERVES TO BE. Billowy stomachs aside, I am proud of this team from where is has come from. I’m proud to call myself a cards fan, no matter how the chips fall were they may. 10 1/2 games back? SCREW THE ODDS! This team is a miracle, missing it’s starting ace from day one. And I won’t cry if it doesn’t happen, because there is much to be proud for, but I will lay my heart on the the line and say this team is miraculous. This team, it could go to 11!

IT COULD GO TO 11!
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 27, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
this post needs an edit button.
it. where.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 27, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Great Scott !
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 27, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
One more night. Just one more night.
I am not ready for this run of baseball to end.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
put the different phil collins song on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
How about Spinal Tap?
Tonight I’m Gonna Rock You Tonight!
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
if so
stick it in the thread that goes to 11
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cards should be relaxed and not too wound up.
They are ‘playing with house money’.
This scares me as a Rangers fan.
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
Maybe so, but then again
I think it probably started to feel pretty real to the Cards after going up 2-1, if it hadn’t before. But as long as you’re scared, I’m happy.
PANTS AT RISK
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Recall
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I made it
10 seconds
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 27, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Screw you.
Make your own nerves. many of us are. IDGAF! Say it, folks! BE PROUD!
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 27, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
i am almost shaking.
i have so long to wait before this game.
it is not going to be a fun wait.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Word up
Not sure what to do with myself at work
by LandSickness on Oct 27, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
reloading stubhub to watch the tickets get purchased every few minutes is boring
I need a hobby or some tickets to do at work
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
just buy all the tickets
then sit back and laugh
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
You could make...
[dramatic turn]
ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
this is actually a fairly brilliant idea, assuming you had enough credit cards to initially purchase all of the tickets
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
And if you get stuck with them
I bet you could bribe some people for some favors if you let them go with you.
2006, best year of my life. StL Cardinals AND Indy Colts win their championships.
is the tap water acceptable to drink here?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
the water in phoenix tastes like bleach or rust, depending on the season
doesn’t take much to impress me
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
So, besides Phoenix then
Is there any other place in the US where anyone would recommend NOT drinking the tap water? Just for my own future reference when traveling.
I’m guessing anywhere south of the Mason-Dixon line is probably the main danger area…
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
tucson
its even worse there. portland has great tap water.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Makes sense
Good water = Good brews
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
The water at Camp Lejeune, NC may or may not end up killing me
so if you find yourself there, especially in the past, I’d avoid it.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
damn time travellers
always drinking my water
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
camden, nj
although only because of the taste; I don’t think it’s unsafe
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
why south?
do you think we are unclean?
I actually can’t imagine anywhere in the U.S. where the tap water would be “unsafe”, unpleasant, sure, not unsafe. I did find, however, that the water in College Station, Texas is unsafe for house plants. We killed almost all of our plants when we first moved there because of the salt content of the water (infiltration of seawater into the wells).
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 27, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
South carolina.
All of it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
AB set up shop in StL because this was the only area they could get vast amounts of water at high quality
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
that's cool. what makes the water so good?
in portland, i always assumed it was because the water comes from the mountains
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Some people say it's the Clydesdales
but I don’t agree
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
mmm municipalities
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
mmmmmm... shit
…wait
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
by Aranathor on Oct 27, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you and fritz can find other places to discuss your scat porn
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, so preferably do it a searchable forum
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
We have good water treatment
The plants have some features that others around the country don’t have. Not sure if that is due to different regulation in STL or they just choose to go the extra mile.
Too bad they turn it into Budweiser.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
there it is
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
what do Budweiser and sex on the beach have in common?
They’re both fucking close to water.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 27, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I can attest to that
in a round about way. When I moved to Texas for grad school the local Bud came, of course, from the Houston brewery. The difference in taste was quite noticeable.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 27, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
But it's not like they just fill up vats with tapwater..
Consistently pure water is the key to consistently pure Budweiser beer. And that goes for any water that rinses or cleans our containers, too. That’s why our filtered water is flown to our headquarters in St. Louis from around the country daily and tested for purity by our brewmasters. Taste testing water to brew beer..that’s a commitment to quality.
http://www.budweiser.com/en/our-beer/default.aspx#/our-beer/five-ingredients-no-compromise/not-just-any-water
You forgot the next paragraph.
then the water is filtered one additional time through our brewmasters urinary systems and used in the brewing process of our award-winning Budweiser beer. It is this final filtration that provides the crisp, pee-pee taste of which our customers consistently approve!
(honestly, i dont hate budweiser)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 27, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
You're being very generous comparing Budweiser to urine.
I have no idea what urine tastes like, but it can’t be a lot worse.
by RollBirdsRoll on Oct 27, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, I know
still, it tasted different. ‘Course this was in the early- to mid-’80’s, maybe they’re doing it better now.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 27, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was because of all the German immigrants in the area
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
if you check the label of gallon jugs of Great Value drinking water
a lot of it comes from the Mississippi River via the St Louis and Quincy, IL municipal water supplies
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 27, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
thats why i assumed the water would be gross. the mississippi isn't exactly clean
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
We had terrible water until the Worlds Fair.
Now it’s piled high with lime boldness.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
1904 was a helluva year
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Just as long as you check for snakes first
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I would prefer that the Saint Louis Baseball Cardinals win tonight's baseball contest this evening.
And if it’s not too much to ask, the next evening as well.
Thank you
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 27, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So after laughing at you guys posting a bunch of subject only post in reply to my lack of subject lines but unfortunately not knowing what you said for me to respond to, I update to iOS5 to try and fix the problem and as it turns out, problem still there? Is SBN breaking the mobile site to strong arm the app?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 12:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
this sounds terribly frustraing.
just do that and it should work.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 27, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Thats mean but mainly hilarious
Thats what I did on my phone and it worked
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Still can't get mine to work so gave up and went to the computer
Thanks! That was very helpful!
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
fritz, you're an ass.
that should work great! hadn’t thought of it that way before.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 27, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I wish I had thought of it
whoa, worked for me.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 27, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm giggling uncontrollably at this (even though it's really rather played out at this point)
i know, isn’t it amazing?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You’re cold
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 1:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't get it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
can't tell if serious
buddhas can’t see subject lines.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Eh his post was kind of jumbled.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
it was. i didn't get it at first either.
but, context, brah
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
yeah, bru
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't even have a phone. You're cruel.
Wow works like a charm.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 27, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Also thank you to hr for posting where I could see it purposely
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 12:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it seems like an awful problem to have. i'm really sorry. i don't know why SBN would break their version of the mobile site, though, since that doesn't seem like good business practice. however, i'm more inclined to think that this is just another
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 27, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
manifestation of SBN being SBN, meaning it's a "temporary" problem and it will linger on indefinitely. i'm hopeful it will be resolved, though. sorry again. seems like a shitty issue to have.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 27, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
tonight could should be the last night arthur rhodes ever puts on a cardinals jersey
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
shall we name others?
How about Theriot, Patterson (may not be in uniform anyway), Jackson.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 27, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
TOMORROW SHOULD BE THE LAST NIGHT THEY ALL PUT ON JERSEYS
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
by IHeartBoog on Oct 27, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes, tomorrow
and, hopefully, they’ll all get a nice parting gift that fits on their finger!
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 27, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't mind seeing some of them in Cubs jerseys next year
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, you want them naked?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Haaaavvee
you met IHB?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
well I knew about the hammock, but I don't stalk her
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
And
Ryan Theriot
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 27, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
this edition of hot or not dot com brought to you by
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it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
There are only two people with smiles that good
Adam Wainwright and my boyfriend.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Unfortunately, by BF doesn't have a curveball that good
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
You should try Rui's mom, she has the best curveball in town
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
if he ever tries Rui's mom
that’ll be one helluva bender
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
What about this?

Forgetting the awkward smile.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
This is more my style.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 27, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Pretty sure George A Romero holds the copyright on that pic, actually
if litigation ensues, don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 27, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
/clicks the first one
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
My wife's favorite
She gets annoyed when my son and I call him “Lego”

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
Yeah I'm gonna miss Skip
Not theriot.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
And Dave Duncan
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
under contract for next year
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought he was going to retire because of the wife
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think there has been an announcement, but it’s possible.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 27, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
there's that other guy too
what’s his name?
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 27, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently,
no one else got it. I figured by the time I got back from lunch…. oh well.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 27, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
schumaker
theriot
rhodes
dotel
furcal
patterson
. . . I think that’s about it
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
and matt holliday once mo trades him for striking in game 5
by prophetjohn on Oct 27, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt was playing. Does that make him a scab?
Since he crossed the strike line?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be mourning
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
it finally hit me
tears flowing
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 27, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, gotta go
See you all on the other side, folks
Go Redbirds!
Prayers from the Promised Land.
Cards fan in Middle East
Shalom!
And on Saturday, hopefully Mazeltov!
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 27, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You're in Topeka?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 27, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
whatever happens tonight....
I’m going to enjoy the shit out of this game.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
Fucking A
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
by cardsfan59 on Oct 27, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Fuck yeah
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck. yes.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah, my dad made that last night
That’s why I wondered if there were more samples.
by LandSickness on Oct 27, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope by the end of the day you have managed to quote the entire movie in this thread
Still not a werewolf.
One thing about this no subject line thing. TE entirely blank threads, well, my mind is blown
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 1:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
heh
this thread included “butt sex” and “zing” that’s a small summary for you.
Still not a werewolf.
That summary deserves every bit of creativity my mind is giving it
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 3:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you can read thegoodphight
they are really weird with their subject lines
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 27, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You wouldn't believe the amount of porn terms I've searched on VEB
Surprisingly, a lot of interesting threads came up.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
DP?
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonder if Wash is serious about starting Harrison over Holland in game 7.
. . .And there WILL be a Game 7, and Carp is starting it for us.
He sure sounds serious.
Said it at least twice, now.
(also I sort of would prefer Jackson in 7, which I know isn’t popular, but arguing about it would probably anger the GOB)
(Carp threw more innings this year than he's ever thrown.)
(The one time in his career he pitched on short rest — game 2 vs. Philly — he looked bad.)
(And we already know his elbow has been bothering him.)
It’s my belief that the GOB can’t see inside parentheses. Because anyway, none of this matters unless we win tonight.
Want nothing to do with Jackson
Though if Jayson Stark is to be believed, before the rainout yesterday, the Cards were seriously considering Jake F. Westbrook.
Not much confidence in Carp on 3 days, but he’s the best option if TLR isn’t willing to start Lance Lynn.
Not with us he's not
With CWS this year, sure. Other than his record and ERA, there’s not much to like about his tenure as a Cardinal. Those peripherals are scary.
I guess he “eats innings,” but that’s not a quality I want in my Game 7 starter.
e: HYPOTHETICAL game 7
They're not THAT bad.
I’m not a big proponent of “just throw out the bad numbers,” but remember that he got left in that Aug. 3 game against Milwaukee to get knocked around and save the bullpen. TLR was explicit about that. Knock even a couple of those HR off his post-trade numbers and he looks basically the same as he did before the trade.
Anyone know where I can find video of Edmonds' 04 NLCS Walkoff?
MLB.com doesn’t have it, and the only youtube hit for it is terrible.
I have been having similar trouble.
I would appreciate the help as well.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
unfortunately the only place I see it anymore is on MLBN
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 27, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
man, he could really catch up to those high ones
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
We can’t even write subject lines
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 27, 2011 1:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Man did Szymborski go on a Cardinals-related Twitter follower adding spree
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Oh shit how do I turn this signal off
Fuck
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
call him Dave
or Dan
or something
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Dante
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
it would appear that you have indeed summoned him
to see that you keep a disturbingly close eye on his twitter account
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
it's because he appreciates the fact that we worship his magical abilities
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
So can someone, not in a subject line, link fritz’s pizza recipe?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm your personal assistant, fritz
he added, “I add a small handful of cornmeal to the dough, too.”
Still not a werewolf.
johnson?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i'm not sure this should be explained on VEB
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If you do, use the subject line
then half the crowd can’t be offended by what they can’t read.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Thank you clank for linking, and thank you fritz for the recipe
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
don't actually add the cornmeal.
remember to add the cornmeal.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I found a recipe for "Pizza Fritz"
though I’m sure that’s not what you want
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 27, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Add 6 penises braised in Rui's mom's mouth, 4 gallons of hot sauce, Rui's moustache and poop
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
when did I start talking about poop a lot? Or rui's mustache, for that matter?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
i guess, it's never too late to start.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Weren't you the original scatporn guy?
And this recipe is a amalgamation of you and Rui, because I got Rui jokes.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I like a good scatporn joke as much as the next guy (lol, Germany), but I don't think it's my thing.
Penises, that’s my thing.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 27, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
wait
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 27, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
that what it said on the restroom wall
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this where I now point out you cannot insert an active link into the subject line?
At least, I haven’t figured out how.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
subject line

do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i like the wild gyrations toward the end
here’s to making them even wilder.
by Pegasus on Oct 27, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You mean "wider"
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
sorry, i meant after they intersect again.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
I wanna see that yawning
progression clamp down and then cross streams like strangers in the night!!
I want more... More baaaacon!
Jim Gaffigan
by blueinmemphis on Oct 27, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
you and your "progressive" propaganda!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
yo can you dig it?
Furcal ss
Molina c
Pujols 1b
Berkman rf
Holliday lf
Freese 3b
Schumaker 2b
Jay cf
Garcia p
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 27, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
Yadi second?
Are you high?
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I have bigger issues with Schu playing 2B.
Always a bad idea.
by Cardinals645 on Oct 27, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that too, go punot
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm fine with Punto being there for defense but I think the Schu man is going to slap
some singles through tonight.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 27, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
oh
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah?
oh.
oh. that is not what I intended.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
its exit only
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 27, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
maybe this is a 9 1/2 weeks reference
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
how that didn't end up green is beyond me
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Better than being variance mirite
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
"she" is not me!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Well, that's just like your opinion.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
the fuck
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
oh whew
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
"whew"
ha
Don’t worry the real lineup will provoke zero angst.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 27, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
ha
why is this so astounding?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 27, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So, would you say you did a double take?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 27, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how about this? I think this is my favorite one that has a non-zero chance of happening.
Furcal ss
Holliday lf
Pujols 1b
Berkman rf
Freese 3b
Molina c
Jay cf
Punto 2b
Garcia p
But for real the Schu man is coming.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 27, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
There's no way this is official
Three LHH batting back-to-back-to-back? In a TLR lineup? Molina batting second? Even though that’s really where he should have been batting all season?
This lineup makes too much sense and is so anti-TLR that I can’t fathom it being accurate. Or maybe after losing two games to a guy who bats his best hitter 8th, he’s decided to throw caution to the wind.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
finally someone who sees reason
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 27, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
I’d bench Holliday in favor of Allen Craig right now.
Holliday hasn’t had a lick of power since the injury, he’s just been slapping the ball to the right side and back up the middle. His homer in the NLCS was of the “cheap” variety, in that everyone, including the catcher and home plate umpire, thought it was a foul ball.
Craig has been seeing the ball well, has taken a number of good AB’s and walks, and it gives us a contact hitter to pinch hit with late in the game (Holliday).
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
isn't this the exact same argument with jay v. skip?
unless you think that holliday is actually still injured.
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no, it's pretty much the exact same argument
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it's fucking not.
And you didn’t read a word I said above.
Matt Holliday is clearly still injured and it is affecting his ability to hit for power and pull the baseball
- Holliday (Final 28 days of 2011 Reg Season): .255/.309/.353/.662
- Holliday: (Spray Chart for October)
- Holliday: (Spray Chart, pre-injury 2011)
Notice how there aren’t hardly any balls to the deep outfield? This injury’s turned him into a slightly better version of Ryan Theriot, essentially. In 59 post season PA’s, he’s had 3 XBH: 2 doubles slapped down the line Furcal style and the one cheap homer in Milwaukee. That’s it. His other 10 hits are all singles.
Craig, on the other hand, is putting up a .500+ slugging and .400+ OBP in the postseason thus far in only half as many PA’s as Holliday.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Ok, you're right
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
holliday's hit in game 5 finally looked like a legit hit.
maybe he’ll for 4-4 tonight.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
guys, colby lewis has a 4.54 FIP
the best offense in the NL should be able to score 6 runs off this guy.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions
definitely should have smacked him around in game 2 but
sometimes sliders with zero movement are hard to hit
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 27, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
soft tossing righties=soft tossing lefties
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
pappy’s is jampacked, now where the hell do I have lunch?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 2:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
mmm blues city deli
I always go with the #2
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 27, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Rui, did you see the new South Park?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
who are you
his secretary?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
That one's a real jaw-breaker
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
No I only watch good shows
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
oh
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
uh, so, uh
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCvQ_7u1XeI
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
poor ralph
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Couple of oat sodas, Gary
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
say, you got a good sasparilla?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 27, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Sioux City?
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
I'm not ready for the season to be over so the Cards must win!
I will be in St. Louis tonight and the last time I was in St. Louis during a game the Cards won so I will volunteer to be a good luck charm. Not at the game, unfortunately, visiting family. GO CARDS!
Yadi hitting second. All I could think of was moar double plays.
TortyCraig
My guess as to the meaning of Yadi's neck tattoos is that they are the symbols from an ancient civilization for "Caught Stealing."
I'm with ya on this.
This run has been so much fun. I want it to last as long as possible. Any good luck you bring the redbirds way is more than welcome!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah, I just want more baseball.
Championships are nice, too, but winter is long and cold and there’s no baseball. Gimme another day, fellas.
hey man, at least it makes tonight a good night no matter what
it could be the last real baseball I’ll see for a long, cold, dark while, so I’m gonna enjoy it no matter what
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
Baseball is probably worse for my productivity than any other single thing.
I’m terrible during the playoffs, and even worse in between pitchers-and-catchers day and Opening Day.
oh, me too
for sure. I’m laughably far behind in every single class, and it’s like 50% due to baseball (the other 50% because it’s my third year and I don’t give a shit anymore)
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
damn it i can’t read any veb
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 3:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yeah, i feel sorry for those people that can't read our sincire comments about how much we don't
hate them all, especially d-dee
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
by Aranathor on Oct 27, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
very well played, i appreciate the way you changed gears mid-stream so that it wasn't
a display of your true feelings, in the end
No, you're not.
Indeed.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
you can stuff your sorrys in a sack, mister
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this thread gets a lot less interesting if you can ACTUALLY read what we post.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
what grapefruits?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 3:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what’s that? you don’t think d-dee can stab you over there
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
probably misses her old glasses.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 27, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
do a thing
hasn’t been effective since the May, its resting on its laurels, living off past glories.
it should be non tendered.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
i believe "do a thing"
has been following a strict diet and workout program. it very well may be in the best shape of it’s life.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
your about 6 months too soon for that meme
you don’t want to be like Trevor Hoffmans fastball-change up combo and have memes back into each other so that they’re basically the same.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
so you're saying
don’t cross the streams
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yes
but i wanted to get that ridiculous metaphor in there
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
you've been having thoughts about Trevor Hoffman?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i've spent most of today
thinking about Aztecs and Conquistadors.
Even defunct closers provide a welcome distraction.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
you really Stavinoah'd that one!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
HERE COME STAVINOHA
WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
i can only conclude
y’all are jerks
hahahahaha
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i gotta stop talking porn
damn
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Men can't multi task.
Every ex-girlfriend has told me so. One open window at a time.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 27, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
oh please
new interface devices exist.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
why is the word
immediately so hard to spell?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Because it's so
NOW.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Courtesy of BRef...This Date in Cardinal History...
1965 – The St. Louis Cardinals trade two of their mainstays, sending first baseman Bill White and shortstop Dick Groat to the Philadelphia Phillies for outfielder Alex Johnson, pitcher Art Mahaffey and catcher Pat Corrales. St. Louis also throws in catcher Bob Uecker.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
anyone in SRO today
(no effin subject lines)
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 3:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Who wants to stand all night?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
you better come find me and tell me what to do about my ankle like you promised
and it better be helpful
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 3:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It helps
Biggest thing is staying off your ankle though
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
you tell me NOW? i went walking my foot to see if i regain some range of motion. wonderful
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 4:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ignore him, that’s not good advice. Stick to what I told you and you’ll be fine. Heck, meet up with VolsNCards tonight and he’ll be able to give you some tips. Since, you know, he’s a Doctor just like me.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
scoot, judging by how swollen and painful my ankle was this morning
i don’t even want to imagine what it would’ve been like if you hadn’t told me what to do last night
thanks a bunch
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 7:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, I've always been told...
And it’s always helped me with a bum ankle.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
in the place where you live
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 27, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Now face north
think about direction
wonder why you haven’t before
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
You know I can’t read this, right?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 27, 2011 4:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey man, I found a 1985 Cardinals DVD at the Salvation Army here yesterday. Let me know if you need it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 27, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
You are a dick
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You are
a massive dick
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh no subject line people
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
This so wrong.
You shouldn’t do that to him.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
That's just mean.
HCL’s going to hate you when he gets on a real computer.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
totes harsh dude
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
1985. DVD.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
by lightbulb on Oct 27, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So THAT'S why I can't find a Casablanca DVD anywhere?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 27, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow
but soon…you’ll find it.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
by lightbulb on Oct 27, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think this is the beginning of a beautiful thread-ship.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 27, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'm shocked, shocked
to find that memeing is going on in here!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 27, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You must not lose your head
A thread is still a thread, “reply” is still “reply”
The not-on-topic things apply
As memes go by
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 27, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Three little recs don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy VEB world
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
by lightbulb on Oct 27, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rui, I would like to purchase that DVD
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, sold
To VEP it goes!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Aww sweet, a new door stop
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
42
and THAT is the answer to the ultimate question of Life, the universe, and everything.
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
i like how even the texas guy's
getting in on the action
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Maybe I'm an attention whore.
or not.
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
when are you getting there?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 3:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Me
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
Sorry
I am
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
to clarify for d-dee, VolsnCards5 will be at the game in SRO
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
He is also sorry for many other things that some people can not currently see.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
what grapefruits?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 4:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well i’ll be at the front of the line gate 2 if anyone wants to come join me and we can troll for the best spot as soon as they let us in
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 4:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
VEBers meeting at 615, third level left field, where the good beer is?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
OT: Anybody know anything about Robbie's House of Jazz in Webster Groves?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
I LIVE THERE!!!!
….and know nothing about the place.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks for your help
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i think it's relatively new.
they’ve held good shows before, i’ve just never been. the people i’ve talked to have enjoyed their visit.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. I saw there
is supposed to be a quartet playing there on the 5th. That’s a helluva a trek for me, but it doesn’t cost much and might make the wife happy.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's been there for a while, but with a different name(?)
My wife and I went there a couple of times after other shows and hung out for a while. An OK little place. Never went specifically to see a show, though.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 27, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it very hard to locate?
Even with mapquest directions can get a little fuzzy.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Mapquest? Did you log onto Prodigy to get those directions?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 27, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No. I'm just talking about any directions in general.
Haven’t tried Prodigy yet. I knowz nuffing about it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
heh. that's going back a long way
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a 386SX
My first computer I bought (non parental unit purchase) when I joined the Air Force, way back in 1991. I remember playing Fantasy Baseball on Prodigy with that computer. Prodigy’s Fantasy Baseball rocked!
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
I can remember when our computer lab
got a whole roomful of 286’s around that time. Holy shit was that a step up.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember repairing computers
with an oscilloscope and a soldering iron.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 27, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but it's kind of tucked away
in the far corner of a shops/office building. It’s just off Lockwood.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 27, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks. might have to give it a try for something different.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Furcal 6, Schumaker 8, Pujols 3, Berkman 9, Holliday 7, Freese 5, Molina 2, Punto 4, Garcia 1
"He probably misses his old glasses."
miklasz: Furcal 6, Schumaker 8, Pujols 3, Berkman 9, Holliday 7, Freese 5, Molina 2, Punto 4, Garcia 1
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Would lineup construction really make a difference today?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
having skip instead of jay lowers our oddes by 1.2%
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
but only in a true statistical model.
in reality i think it increases our odds.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
wat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
the statistics say to play jay, obviously.
he hits for a better average and likely has better defense than schumaker (at least using the metrics we have to measure).
however, jon jay isn’t seeing shit right now. he’s 1 for his last whatever and hasn’t really squared up a ball well in about two weeks. i know you and VEP are big followers of the “hot and cold streaks don’t exist” movement, but the postseason is all about small sample size.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
the statistical model predicts what's most likely
use whatever inputs you want. if you want to take into account the fact that Jay’s 1-30, do that, but your decision is still based off the statistical model.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
okay that's fair.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
and fyi, while hot and cold streaks do exist
they are impossible to predict. therefore you should really just go with who is the better player.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
but it's easier to predict if one will continue than if one will end.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
no it isn't
http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/20/projecting-future-performance/
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
well maybe not in 2007 but that was four years ago
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Oh yeah, I forget to mention
that the way baseball works has changed since the great fire burning in the outfield in 2009.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
regardless...
skip’s wOBA against R (career): .338
jay’s (BABIP assisted) wOBA against R (career): .344
it’s really damn close.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Skip's older and has been a lot worse the past two seasons
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
and skip has a better arm and has hit better lately.
it’s at worst a push.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Jay is a better fielder than Skip in center
A lot better. And yeah, it’s a push if you ignore all of the evidence and common sense.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
whatever.
i meant to say “you’re right” the entire time.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
ftfy
it’s at worst best a push.
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I think the real issue is that Skip seems to be trending down overall
While Jay is younger and isn’t necessarily doing that. Does anybody envision Skip posting 112 wRC+ anymore? I sure don’t, but I could see Jay continuing to be that good a hitter.
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Yeah I think Jay is a far better player than Skip going forward
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Those career numbers include the good Skip years and the bad ones. I know more data usually is better, but that’s something to think about. I don’t think the “pleasantly above-average hitting” Skip Schumaker is coming back at this point, whereas Jay is currently an above average hitter.
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That said
God only knows if it’ll make a damn bit of difference over a single game. Maybe Jay has gangrene in his foot and Skip will hit three home runs. I’d be thrilled with that. OK, I wouldn’t be thrilled about gangrene but the homers would be awesome.
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Yeah that's why 1.2% drop was the pulled out of ass number
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
EXACTLY
i don’t give a shit about “going forward”—we need to win TONIGHT. jay is 1 for his last 30.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
tonight is "going forward"
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
a very tiny piece of "going forward"
i’m pretty indifferent to the move.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I'm sure you've been watching Jay hit the last 10 days.
So I’m also reasonably sure that you’ve noticed that he hasn’t hit more than 2 balls out of the infield in this entire Series. He’s struggling right now, clearly.
Schumaker has been making good contact, is a good hitter against right handed pitching, and has been playing better recently.
We can argue to the end of the earth about who the better player is over the long run, but for this one game, Game 6 of the 2011 World Series, I think it’s hard to say that Jay is the better hitter for the lineup.
Now, clearly, he’s the better defender. But sometimes you have to sacrifice a little to get a little somewhere else, and this is the trade off that we have to make. He looked pretty good out there on Monday night — got to all the balls he needed to get to and didn’t miss any plays that Jay would have made.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 27, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hot and cold streaks aren't predictive of future performance
Future – meaning tonight.
Read the link I posted above. Evidence!
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Skip is a signifcantly worse bet than Jay
I think that he is the worse choice if your going to use any logic for the decisions.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if I can get behind this
Your use of “any logic” seems to be going a little too far. I think it would be better if you said “strictly statistically based logic” because logic does not include only statistics. One of the reasons “streakiness” and “clutchiness” are so meaningless when it comes to predictions is because of all the noise. Now, if player A goes 1 for 10 because he just broke a rib, is that the same thing as player B going 1 for 10 because he hit ten balls really hard but nine of them went right to a fielder? I would say no, but unless we go into batted ball data, they are statistically the same. I would sit player A and start player B.
If we are limiting ourselves to a very small amount of data than I would start Jay every single time, but clearly that’s not what’s going on here.
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I realize I kind of turned "not stats" into "stats" by getting into batted ball stuff
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They are basing their decision on nothing but results
They are not basing it on anything else that would be predictive – such as injury, or the like.
So they are using the same statistical reasoning as I am – they are just doing it poorly.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't say for sure that they are doing what you say
but it is a possibility. I’m more interested in the hypothetical “what Tony is thinking” when he makes the decision. We’re talking about such a small amount of data that this is all really hypothetical, and we as VEB commenters are not privy to all the information. If I were in charge of the lineup I’d probably just play Jay. Maybe if I were the manager of the Cardinals, though, and not myself, I’d have a chance to look at a ton of video or just talk to Jon Jay and see if anything is hurting, etc.
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What else are they basing it off of?
That Skip has looked better? That’s just the same thing as results. If a player is 1-30, no doubt he’s looked pretty shitty.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You can have bad results and not look shitty
Remember how much we hated seeing all of Craig’s blistering balls-in-play not amount to anything when he first started getting playing time? Most people (including the Cardinals if I remember right) drew a distinction between the results and how things “looked” and they were right to do so. I am not going to say that I really think Skip has “looked” better than Jay or whatever, I’m just saying that this sort of judgment call is not crazy.
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I don't think the judgement is crazy!
I agree that Skip has looked a lot better than Jay. The odds that Jay has been playing well and gone 1-30 are very, very low.
I’m saying it doesn’t matter that Skip has looked, or played, better than Jay over the past 8 games. It’s not predictive.
Please read the link I posted above.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Predictive in what context?
Context is your problem here, and it’s a HUGE PROBLEM in this case where the predictive point is exactly ONE game.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Predictive as in going forward
As in the next 1000 – or 4 – at bats.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
more so, over a 1000 bats.
there’s not much that is going to be predictive of a single game performance. but, you say that further down in the thread too.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Wrong again
It’s NOT the same thing as results. And if you don’t get that, then, well, you just told every scouting department that they don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.
I’m sure they appreciate the fact that their entire job is now illogical.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I'm saying if Jay went 1-30 he most likely has actually played like shit
You are agreeing with me.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
And you are also saying
that even though he’s played like shit in his last 30 PA’s and shown zero signs of breaking out of it (like hard hit balls, good pitch recognition in multiple PA’s, etc.) we still can’t make an inference that Skip, who is nearly and identical hitter against RHP in his career, might be the better play offensively in this particular game?
That’s really just nonsense, VEP, and I think you know it.
Your problem is that you can’t PROVE WITHOUT ANY DOUBT that he’s the better play, and therefore, saying that is just illogical. Well, this is baseball, not rocket science. Sometimes you go with your best educated guess.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Here's what I'm saying
Jay and Skip have hit equally well against RHH over their career. Skip is older than Jay and has been worse over the past couple of years, therefore Jay is the better bet.
The fact that Skip has hit better over the past few games, and neither of the players injured, is not predictive, and that’s proven by the link I posted above.
I agree that there is a big chance that Skip is actually a better bet than Jay for tonight, I just think there is a bigger chance that Jay is the better bet.
Now I
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
How close is it?
Statistically run it out for me. Because I don’t much care what YOU think as much as I care about the hard information you’re using to make your assertion, which I’ve not yet seen.
I laid out the reason why I think Skip is the better play tonight offensively, I’ve yet to see you do that other than say I’m wrong while insulting me of being illogical.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Let's see
Jay’s ZIPS wOBA is .328, Skip’s is .310. Let’s say they have an equal platoon split going forward.
That’s my assertion. Their career numbers are more reflective of their talent – and thus their odds of getting a hit tonight – than their performance over the past 6 games.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want to do the math
I know, however, that they have more than zero predictability, which is more than I can say for the past 30 at bats.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess it depends on who you mean by "they"
but if you mean the people actually make the roster decisions, you really have no clue what they are using to make their decision.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah, there is the "VEB discussion" level
and then there’s the “real world decision makers” level. The first is all fun and games since we just don’t have access to as much information.
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Do you really think there is something we don't know about Jay?
C’mon Bobo, Tony has time and time again used small sample size stats (machups and the like) religiously in his lineup choices.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no clue but not really
Tony does use small sample sizes and I hate it, especially when it’s weird stuff like “this guy played in the same division as this pitcher five years ago and was 4 for 11 off of him, he gets a start”. I hate that stuff. But I just don’t guarantee to myself that he’s making an entirely illogical decision here. In a narrow “on paper” way it definitely looks illogical, and as I said I would start Jay over Skip just about 10 times out of 10. Tony manages both of these guys right now and it’s entirely plausible he has a decent reason for starting Skip.
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Yeah, sure Tony could be making a logical decision
I just highly doubt it.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt it too, probably not as much as you do
But eh. Maybe the playoff run has Tony’s gut on a (non-predictive) hot streak. I’m OK with a little magical thinking during the playoffs because it helps me stay optimistic.
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Yeah I don't really care
It’s not like it matters much in one game.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm talking about you guys
And given Tony’s very obvious and documented reliance on small sample size statistics, I garauntee he is using the same logic.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong again...
I said nothing about results, actually. I merely stated that Skip has looked better and taken better AB’s as of late. Not sure what that has to do with “results based analysis” — it’s simply using my eyes to gauge the performance of two players and inferring things based on my educated presumptions of what makes a good hitter or not.
If you want to continue to be bullheaded about shit like this, fine. I would just suggest that you stop resorting to “anti-stat” talking points in order to do it.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I clarified what I meant by results below
I’m not interested in arguing with you fourstick, I’ve made my point already.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
And you're, well, wrong
but I’m sure that doesn’t matter as you won’t be admitting it any time soon.
Carry on…
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
you JUST said
that you refused to argue with him any more, fourstick, and you’re doing it any way.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Thanks
If I needed fatherly advice, I’d go ask my dad.
And if you have anything you’d like to add to this conversation, except arguing with me about who I do or do not engage on this site, then I’d ask you to butt out.
Thanks.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I was typing a similar post.
using past behavior to predict future performance is not the only “logic”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Dude
You did not just use the words “any logic” to refute someone else’s logically laid out argument?
This is why I don’t argue with you anymore, you have no respect for how anyone else thinks if it doesn’t fit into your “model”.
Well, your model don’t measure everything, so get used to insulting other people’s “logic”.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
fourstick.
did you just use the words “i don’t argue with you any more” and then launch into a polemic?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 27, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't, I pretty much stay away from him.
He says stupid stuff like this all the time, completely ignoring context and inferred logic, to make some diatribe about the semantics of the predictive nature of statistics and the like.
It really borders on insanity.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
it isn't healthy for you two to speak to one another
so someone has got to stop doing it.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
How many times do you think you've personally insulted me over the past two months?
I’d say well over 100.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
How many times have you made assertions
without supplying tangible evidence? Lots of times.
You just don’t like being called out on your BS. Understandable.
FWIW — if calling me “illogical” isn’t a personal insult, I’m not sure what one is then.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I didn't call you illogical, I said your decision to start Skip over Jay was illogical
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That's calling ME illogical
as I am the one who put that decision in the post.
Again, semantics. It’s always semantics with you.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i disagree with this...
“That idea is stupid” =/= “You are stupid”
Without this distinction it would be impossible to have a disagreement on the site without everything being considered an ad hominem attack.
by all4tookie on Oct 27, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
when he taps the ball in the infield
28 or 29 times in his last 30 ab’s don’t you think its reasonable to say that is more than just randomness?
I'm not saying it's randomness
I’m saying it’s not predictive.
I agree that hot and cold streaks exist – players have off days and on days. However, using past cold streaks to predict future cold streaks is bad statistics.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Last 14 PA, starting with most recent game
weak GB
weak GB
K
weak GB (ROE)
weak GB
GB to pitcher
GB, FC
GB, 1B unassisted
GB, 1B unassisted
FB, CF
FB, deep CF
weak GIDP
GB
Sac Bunt
weak GB
source
Oh, and he went 0-5 in our 16-7 game 3 win, when all other cardinals got on base at least TWICE.
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
Yes, I agree that Jay has played very poorly over the past few games
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
What is Skippy's same pattern?
I’ve seen a bunch of weak grounders to the rights side from him as well. In fact, I’ve seen so many weak grounders to the right side from Skip that I call a weak grounder to the right side a “Skip.”
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 27, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Skip's en fuego!
I cannot contain my excitement about Skip Schumaker, a career -10 UZR/150 in CF, with a .300 wOBA this year, playing CF and batting 2nd in the most important Cards game in at least the last 5 years.
And by “cannot contain my excitement,” I actually mean, “want to shoot myself.”
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 27, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
you do sarcasm so well
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
fair enough
i understand statistically i lose this argument. but i think in a situation like this where its 1 game is the season you can argue that jay’s struggles are predictive that he would have a bad game because something is wrong with his swing that is causing him to roll over everything. and while its possible today is the day he breaks out of it, there is more of a chance today is not the day he corrects it. and today is all that matters.
I don't think that those flaws in swings neccesarily carry over games
I get what you’re saying – Jay has probably played so poorly becomes something is wrong with his swing. However, I don’t agree that there is more of a chance that today is not the day he corrects.
If that were the case, we would see that hot and cold streaks do in fact have predictive value to some degree. However, the research shows they have no value.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Also,
the consecutive days off may have given him time to work with McGwire on getting his swing back? Just thinking out loud.
Don’t really think it makes that big of a difference really. In a one game situation there is a lot of luck involved: I’m hoping that the cardinals get lucky tonight and tomorrow. Haven’t seen many bounces our way since game 1.
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
How do you know they aren't predictive?
Do you have a model that completely eliminates all possible error to the point where you could determine this?
No, you don’t. So, therefore, your point is just as illogical as the one the rest of us are making.
The difference is that we have hard evidence that his previous PA’s have been poor and that he’s hit only one or two balls hard out of the infield in the last 30 or so PA’s.
I think you’re making a theory into a law without any basis whatsoever for doing so. Which is also bad statistics — but because you have numbers your method is somehow superior to ours.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
agree. this is where i hate the streaks don't matter talk
i cant take anymore jay choppers to second. i know you can say its impossible to predict them ending or whatever but the whole hot streak issue is the one sabermetric thing i don’t agree with.
if it was a lefty i would say play jay just because shu is equally inept againwt lefties and is a far worse fielder. but i don’t mind it against a RHP
Do you disagree that Jay is more likely to have a better game than Skip?
I’m pretty indifferent as well, I’m just the one defending the argument.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Skip is the better "pick to click" at this moment.
He’s made solid contact when he’s been in the lineup as of late. Haven’t seen that from Jay in two weeks.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I don't think that means anything
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
And I don't really give a shit what you think
I think I’ve made that perfectly clear.
I really do wish I could watch you coach Little League sometime. I think it would be a fantastic thing to watch.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
GO AWAY
You’ve made your point. Now you’re being a nuisance.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
sorry.
i commented in three places. you apparently don’t read through everything before posting, so it looks like i’m continuing to engage you when i just said something in three places around the same time.
i’ll shut up now. i apologise for interjecting, i just took you at your word when you said you didn’t want to engage VEP anymore…
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Once is enough
You made your point. No need to post it three different places.
I’m sorry that I have to call into question people that hide behind numbers to tell other people they don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about. It rubs me entirely the wrong way, and VEP does this all the time.
There is more to the game than what is in the data. In the long run, the data generally win out. In the short run, however, matchups, performance, and fundamentals matter much, MUCH more and can wash out a lot of the statistical edges, simply because the edges are so infinitesimally small for one game that you’re just as well going off your gut feeling.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 27, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
are baseball players' outcomes typically
a normal distribution?
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
No, players are much more likely to get an out than to do something positive
If that’s what you’re asking.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
what I meant was
does a particular players’ outcomes follow a normal distribution. For example, if John Jay’s career OBP is .350, then if you split his career up into 30AB samples, would they follow a normal distribution?
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
thinking out loud here...
I think I’m missing StDEv. it could be normal, but the standard deviation be really high?
Reason I ask is, if I used Excel random number generator to “Create” a 30 AB sample with an expected outcome of .350 of the samples generating a number 1, then over 100 samples (F9, F9, F9… etc.), the smallest number of successful PAs was 3, and it only happened once in N=100 30AB samples. This would tell me that the explanation for John Jay’s performance is not random chance, but instead something that has affected my actual EXPECTED outcome. Does this make any sense at all?
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
Well, no, that would tell you that it's an extreme outlier
There is never any point where you can dismiss luck completely as a possibility.
But I’m not saying that Jay’s true talent OBP over the past 30 PA is .350 and he’s just getting unlucky. His true talent OBP over that time was probably a lot lower (you could use some Bayesian math to figure out what, I don’t even wanna try), but that is still not predictive of future performance.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
this much about statistics I do know
if it’s that extreme an outlier, and N=30, then I could give you a 95% confidence that the mean/expected OBP for John Jay over the last 30 AB is LOWER than his career mean.
Of course that still doesn’t tell you he won’t fix whatever’s CLEARLY wrong before tonight. That is, if he actually played tonight.
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
I'm not sure
I would think it would be skewed towards 0.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say Skip is more likely to have a better game than Jay
Because Jay is not only 1 for his last 30 but he’s swinging at everything and rolling over within the first 3 pitches of every AB. You can say its impossible to predict when it will end so just play him, and in the regular season that could be true but we don’t have time to wait. Something is off with his swing, when you tap the ball in the infield almost every one of your last 30 AB’s, I think its more than just randomness.
Jay's career wOBA against righties is not all that assisted compared to Schu's
Skip’s career BABIP against righties: .335
Jay’s career BABIP against righties: .342
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Well, nothing to do with this game but going forward
Jay’s expected BABIP >>>>>>>>>> Schu’s BABIP
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 27, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
so many of those ABs were against LHP though weren't they?
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so then the 1-30 streak is probably not as bad as it seems
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that's still pretty bad.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Right, and Jay's pretty obviously a better hitter vs LHP than Skip
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this makes sense
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yay!
Now Holliday can chop grounders with Pujols and Berkman on.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
can't argue that
unfortunately, we haven’t hit any outside of game 3. And we’re not likely to tonight.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You were
fallible.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
So... what's the consensus expectation for tonight's game?
And any thoughts on this?
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
Gotta compliment him on his dynamite crotch beefers, you guys
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
larger sample size
BABIP against in those 79.1 innings is .266, WHIP is 1.172
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
Hey IHB, what's the disposition of your Game 7 tickets?
Unless I’m only imagining that you had them and their disposition was an open question.
VEB is in full smartass mode today.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
But then they took a philosophy class and now they realize that hapiness is just a fleeting emotion and they are going to die
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
upon learning that southwest might have mercy on me and let me change my flight for free
and in light of the fact that i will actually get more work done tomorrow if i stay, i have elected to stay for game 7.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
and even though my dad is in phoenix right now
its his fault i’m a cardinals fan, so i expect he will understand
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
did you actually call and ask yet?
i would call and ask.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i think you probably should have done it last night. they might not have the same mercy tonight/tomorrow.
plus, if we lose tonight, it’s all your fault for not changing your flight in the first place. practically BEGGING to go home.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
why not?
i mean, you might be right. but its total GOB baiting to change my flight before i know anything.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
i would call and ask.
don’t have them change the flight yet, but explain the situation (rain-out and a possible game seven) and ask if, if needed, they can show mercy on you even if you call tomorrow to change it for sure.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i'm going to blame you.
and just because you waited.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
what would even be the point? if i call today and they say, yes, if that happens, call us back and we will change your flight
then tonight i call back and talk to someone totally different.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
chill. i'm just giving you crap.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
WELL NOW I'M WORRIED
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
"Oh hey Linz, just wanted to surprise you! I'm right outside the door! Let's go grab dinner, my treat!"
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I thought Southwest uses the 'no change fees'
as an advertising theme. (?)
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
same day only.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahh. OK.
I am an American Airlines guy myself, so I am used to change fees. ;)
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
plus they (southwest) make you pay for the difference in fares
anyway, so you’re really only saving the change fee itself. i didn’t know it was same day only, though…that’s strange.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Wait, what?
There’s no change fees ever
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Twitter
this is correct
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
okay, that makes a lot more sense.
i was pretty sure i had changed flights to later days entirely and i was only charged the difference in fare price.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
yeah, my fault.
i meant what il rosso said.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeeeeeeeeey! who are you here with anyway?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 4:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wait for tomorrow
if we don’t make it what’s the point in spending a bundle to watch the other guys spill champagne on our field
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 5:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I did that last year.
My buddy and I spent $200+ on SRO at RBiA, just to watch the freaking Giants celebrate on our holy land.
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
I really like Wainwright.
This article does not change that feeling.
He offered to skip today’s scheduled side session.
“Then I’ve got five innings for them in Game 7,” he said.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
In all seriousness
is this possible? Maybe that’s why LaRussa hasn’t announced a Game 7 starter?
/fingerscrossed
//wishingandhoping
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
highly unlikely
but it does give one goosebumps thinking about it
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
that would cause VEB
to implode… or at least warp some kind of time-space continuum
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
I know I would implode
Wainwright attempted to throw at close to full strength a couple weeks ago during the National League championship series. The effort disrupted some scar tissue in his right elbow and forced him to stop throwing for a week.
(from that same article)
Still not a werewolf.
No
Even if he were medically cleared, he is not on the roster for the Series and therefore ineligible to pitch.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
In what situations can the roster change?
injury?
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
In the organization on August 31st
Just need another pitcher to be “injured” to slip him onto the roster.
Or can teams only make injury changes in the LDS and LCS?
(Not advocating this move, but a that move can still be made.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
No changes can be made to rosters after they are set for the World Series
If we had four pitchers get hurt in Game 1, then we are four pitchers short the rest of the Series. No exceptions.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Got a link for that?
I can’t find anything that is WS specific.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
It's the same rule that applies to the LDS and LCS.
You set your roster of 25 players. In between rounds you can make changes to that roster prior to the next series if the player was on the 25 man roster prior to rosters expanding and you can use a player not on the 25 man roster at that time due to an injury to another player (Skip in the Milwaukee series) or and injured player returning from the 15 or 60 day DL (Lynn for the LCS and World Series).
And no, I can’t find a link.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Then that means an injured player can be replaced mid-series.
And they have to be replaced by a similar player (position or pitcher), and are not eligible for the rest of that series or the next.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
The final 25-man playoff roster must be set a day before a club’s first Division Series game, and a team that advances has the right to change its roster for both the League Championship Series and World Series. A rule change, new under the current Collective Bargaining Agreement, allows a team to replace an injured player during the middle of a series, so long as another player at the same position replaces him. Additionally, a player replaced in one post-season series may not be brought back for the following series.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Wainwright would not count, though
As he was not on the active roster during the 2011 season.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Just has to be in the organization.
See Lance Lynn.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah
I’m not sure he would count as he was on the 60 day prior to the start of the season.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i think he would - was always on the 40-man and was on the 60-day DL as of 8/31
from everything i can gather, those are the gating criteria
I thought there was something about being on the active roster during the season though
And it stemmed from an incident a few years back in relation to a situation much like Wainwright’s (missed the whole season, but was on the active roster the season before and placed on the 60 day during spring training).
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
as is Wainwright.
They were both on the 60 day dl on 8/31
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
No just in the organization
If not on the 40-man, then the player must be placed on the 40-man before being activated..
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
got it. technically has to be on the 40-man, but you can easily arrange that
makes sense unless you have Rule 5 concerns
Exactly.
This is a great example of
We have these rules. You can follow them, or not. Whatever.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
he still hasn't thrown a breaking pitch.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
okay, it was a liberal usage of the word "serious"
but it’s still fun to think about.
/lalalalal
//Ican’thearyou
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
Did you know that Adam Wainwright has had a positive hitting WAR in every single major league season?
Whoa
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by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you adjusting for position though?
It’s not like being an above average hitter from the pitcher’s position is all that much to write home about, hell, only about 75 of them hit in a given year as it is.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Debbie Downer...
.254 wOBA for his career
Brendan Ryan wOBA for 2010 – .256
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 27, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Shaved head... check.... 2006 inaugural cardinals tshirt... check.... big beard....check
Shrine of Cardinals memorabilia around my 42 inch high def tv…. check…. Awesome workout before the game…. about to happen! I am doing my part guys! Go RED BIRDS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Baseball was designed to break your heart
Could you bench Arthur Rhodes?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 27, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's going to bench press the entire west coast!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 27, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
did you write this in bold or can i see subject lines now out of the blue
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 4:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe they fixed it
Hit me up on Google+
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by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s bold. Fritz is a dirty rotten bastard.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
*what are you talking about?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
way to go man
That was a pretty indicting failure
on your part
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
She already threatened to kill us all. . . this is only going to make her urge to kill rise
it is what it is
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
SBN must have fixed the problem
You can see both lines?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Haha fuck you mobile users
Hooray SBN!
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm actually curious about how this looks to them. can they see the space?
Hallelujah!
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I wish I had access to the mobile site so I could actually see the havoc we've wrought.
Now that dan’s finally listening, onto collapsible threads!
Still not a werewolf.
yes, I caught a glimpse,
and then it all started working again.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you assholes are lucky it’s only from this point on
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
She has no idea.
Good to see it works now!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Now who's the asshole
Welcome back d-dee!
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
still broken above
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 5:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
refresh.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
 
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 27, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
still not.. boo
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 5:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just checked on my phone,
it’s showing everything
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
not my opera mobile
but if the you click reply you can see the subject line and that’s why fang will get his ass kicked
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 5:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh, it's been broughten
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 5:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i pronounced this a "brofften"
in my head when i first read it.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i can't remember what movie that line was from
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 5:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sounds like you need a phone that doesn’t run Android
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds like you should be slapped
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 7:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Visiting lineup
@KMOXSports
KMOXSports
Rangers World Series Game 6 lineup: Kinsler 2B, Andrus SS, Hamilton LF, Young 1B, Beltre 3B, Cruz RF, Napoli C, Gentry CF, Lewis P
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
He wouldn't have gotten anything to hit the last couple of games either,
except that the hitters in front of him WERE ON BASE. It’s awful hard to put the go-ahead run on third base with less than two out just so you don’t have to pitch to him.
This whole “protection” scheme is just a huge myth. In reality, we should hope for Albert to be walked every time he sees the plate, because our run expectancy goes up every time they do that. He shouldn’t be extending his strike zone when they pitch around him, he should take his walk and rely on his teammates to drive him in.
Seriously, this team is too fucking good to continue a 1-20 streak with runners in scoring position.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
the protection thing is a myth for the most part but in the NL
washington batting napoli 7th makes it so you can reasonably walk napoli since there is a low risk of him coming around to score with gentrey and the P coming up next.
The best 6-7 punch in baseball history?
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by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
In Post-Season History, which makes it seven times as important!
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
man, that d-dee poster is a real pain in my ass.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 4:47 PM EDT reply actions
way to ruin it for everyone by posting without a subject line...here I'll fix it
stop being an ass, now d-dee is going to think its broken again after your blank post
seriously man, not cool
i will choke you bitch
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 4:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
ya, it's working again.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
all of the missing stuff shows on refresh, too.
oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no i still can't see it but i know what he wrote
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 5:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hello.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
looks like it's working again.
i’ll take the credit.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
...
It’s weird, right? Seeing that DirecTV blimp in person…it’s like we’re in Back to the Future 2 or something. Digital ads floating through space.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Speaking of BttF2:
It appears the movie makers were on to something. In 2015, Marty is amazed that the Miami team won the World Series. There were no Florida teams at the time of the movie, and Florida becomes the Miami Marlins next year. Interesting…
Movie predicting life, or life following movie?
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
i don't know if you can say back to the future two was predictive.
not a big enough sample size.
/sabr’d
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Au contraire...
You can use multiple samples from multiple dimensions.
Prise de fer of your Sabr.
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
Well, not quite
Marty was amazed that Miami had a team, but they didn’t win the series. Instead, it was the Cubs who “won” the World Series in a sweep, which is total science fiction.
I can barely make it out from the 18th floor at my work but I’m in Clayton.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
This is great
Game 6, World Series, in St. Louis.
It wouldn’t have been fun if we didn’t have to come from behind to win this series.
Go Cards
Just win
Subject lines!
I’m excited! Also, il Rosso is an evil evil person
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Absolutely nothing
And cornmeal
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 6:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh shit.
i forgot about that. you didn’t do that, did you?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
No. I did add corn flour though
And top it with Zia’s original restaurant recipe with added organic garlic, garlic powder, onion powder, crushed red pepper, oregano and cilantro (as is always my red sauce recipe) as well as proven cheese, salsiccia, and pepperoni. It was excellent. But you felt bad for a sec, didn’t you
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 7:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*provel cheese
Cheese was not gritty
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 27, 2011 7:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
TLR thinks Moneyball had "good acting"
but he’s offended by the depiction of the team and scouting, so he found some parts not enjoyable because it wasn’t accurate enough
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
That's what the sabermetricians think also
Can’t win em all.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 27, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm just amused this is what he's spending time on in the press conference
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
It is somewhat topical
with the 5 outs given away.
They were pretty rough on Art Howe and Fuson in the movie. Much more so than the book. In movies, I guess, someone clearly has to wear the white hat and black hat. Not easy to deal in nuance, and not enough time to explain when you try.
by Merry CRasmus on Oct 27, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m in St. Louis!
Go Cardinals!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
what meat do I grill to increase Cardinals chances of victory?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 27, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions
great answer
but hard to come by and plus I don’t want to get “the hunger” for human meat.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 27, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Squirrel

At least they skinned it first.
Reminds me of “The Cook the Thief His Wife and Her Lover.”
Boog would have made that play.
One of my friends from high school got me into f'ed up movies
Said it would challenge me and stretch me (and we didn’t do drugs like acid).
Of course he turned out to be schizophrenic, so I haven’t been to a movie like that in a while.
Boog would have made that play.
What do a beaver and a shiva squirrel have to do with the Cards and the WS?
Boog would have made that play.
i have a friend who works in a Schnucks bakery
and her squirrels look like that
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 27, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
BLIMP!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
jesus what did i start up there.
do subjunctive better
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 27, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions
always blame fang
there is never need to doubt
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
well, I don't know that you started it
the Earth has been going around the sun since that thread began, but I don’t think that the thread started that. Similarly…
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Standing outside Musial statue
Open the gates already!
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 27, 2011 5:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Want to kill lady
Singing and dancing at gate
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 27, 2011 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is it d-dee?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i only do a knife dance
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 27, 2011 7:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So if I brought cash to the stadium
How much do you think I could pay for a seat if I could get to a seller before a scalper did?
Boog would have made that play.
The cardinals better fucking win tonight.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
umm?
DShulman_ESPN Dan Shulman
LaRussa says he has a Plan A for tomorrow night but it could be altered by what happens tonight. #stlcards #worldseries #mlb #cardinals
Not only this, Tim Kukijan just said “it appears he is leaning towards starting Jake Westbrook”
Wrong tweet woops
DShulman_ESPN Dan Shulman
TLR just said Carpenter is unlikely to start gm 7 but is def available in relief. That leaves Westbrook, Jackson as most likely. #stlcards
either full of shit or carp is hurt
maybe the cardinals are just not meant to sign him to extensions
Kurkijan said that it was likely to be Westy starting
with Carp coming in later. I was assuming he was just speculating.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
hasn't been very good recently
i guess westbrook is a lot more rested. lohse just pitched 230 innings or so after maybe 100 or so the previous 2 years total
i know what it says in those tweets
which is not much. i don’t know why dan schulman doesn’t think lohse is a possibility
i think there is merit to starting westbrook over lohse, though.
Depending on how things go tonight...
Salas/Lynn/Zep/Motte/Dotel can go 6-8 innings, so maybe it doesn’t much matter…
On Metrolink
On my way to game. Yipppppeeeee!!
by Poop on Oct 27, 2011 6:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
you're a sick bastard
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
at least he's housebroken
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
That's human crap
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 27, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Stubhub App Sucks
I saw one tease price and the tickets weren’t there. None of the links I click on actually have tickets behind them.
Boog would have made that play.
go to musial and see Passan.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Too pricey
I may show up a bit late and see if there are any scraps left over.
Boog would have made that play.
CHUG CHUG CHUG
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
you gonna stay awake for this one?
what is it, midnight across the pond right now?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
23:20
dunno, had planned to get an early night with BF tonight but that plan hasn’t worked out. I’ll stick around so long as the birdos are winning.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
bandwagonner
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 27, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
hey
i stayed up ‘til 4am for the last game just to watch us fail to score any runs and then blow the game. If the rangers score some runs i’m not sticking around to watch us lose.
I’ve never watched a team that isn’t my own lift a trophy (in games where they’ve beaten my team) and i’m not going to start now.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
Hey I wanted to ask you,
Does ANYONE over there even give a shit that the NFL plays a game in London each year?
by mick311 on Oct 27, 2011 6:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
there is a growing amount of shit given each year
first time it was like: Hey! What a wierd novelty. Now its like: Hmmm… we could actually enjoy this, despite the fact it is utterly ridiculous.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
goodell supposedly wants an additional game there each year
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 27, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I need an east bound link so I can get to the game
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 27, 2011 6:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You'll never guess
(unless you’ve done this sporcle quiz)
Who has the 2nd most PAs in the cleanup spot since 2000?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
http://www.sporcle.com/games/mlbdarinh/mlb-starts-by-lineup-position-2000-2011
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
another good one from sporcle
got all of them but the first answer
http://www.sporcle.com/games/ESPN/2011-mlb-worst-attendance
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 27, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i wouldnt have guessed it
but its not that surprising
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 27, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like time is standing still.
Let’s Go Cards!
by Tuning in from Korea on Oct 27, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Eck says this is exactly where you want 'em!
recounting big speech from Troy Percival back in the Angels series.
David Eckstein: still very short.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Game 6 Pregame on Fox starts now
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
FLASH
AAAAAA-AAAAA
SAVIOUR OF THE UNIVERSE
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
More Queen !
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 27, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
BI-CYCLE
BI-CYCLE
i want to ride my BI-CYCLE BI-CYCLE
I want to ride my bicycle i want to ride my bike
i want to ride my bicycle i want to ride it where i like
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I'm just a poor boy
Nobody loves me
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 27, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
HE' JUST A POOR BOY
FROM A POOR FAMILY
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
What a great season. Even if they lose tonig................Screw that
Just Win Baby !!
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 27, 2011 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
Al Davis approves
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 27, 2011 7:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
HFS
theyre actually showing our HOFers pregame???
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 27, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
Hey Cardinals, you guys rock. Go kick some Texass arse.
Angels fan signing out.
hula dula da dominoes rula.

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