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St. Louis Cardinals Hitters Fail with RISP, Allow Tony La Russa to Turn Game 5 into Theatre of the Absurd

Game 5 was the fault of the Cardinal hitters. Had someone--anyone--managed a hit with runners in scoring position manager Tony La Russa's bullpen managing would have been marginalized. As fate would have it, though, La Russa took center stage with a display of either drunkenness, hubris, or complete ineptitude. 

The eighth inning of Game 5 of the 2011 World Series will go down as the worse-managed in franchise history. With the game, like the series, tied 2-2 La Russa called upon his bullpen for the first time in the game. In came Octavio Dotel who was rudely greeted by Michael Young who laced a double to the right-center field gap. Dotel then blew Adian Beltre away on three pitches with the K coming on an eye-high 95-MPH heater. With one out and the go-ahead runner standing on second base, La Russa transformed Rangers Ballpark into a theatre of the absurd.

A coaching visit to the mound communicated the managerial order to intentionally walk Nelson Cruz. Dotel has been a brutal force against right-handed batters not named Yuni Betancourt this postseason and Cruz is prone to the strikeout. Nonetheless the manager elected to put another runner on. Dotel struggled to lob intentional balls in the air to Molina's mitt but managed to do La Russa's bidding. Now with runners on first and second with one out La Russa called on Marc Rzpeczynski. 

A grounder that bounced off the lefty loaded the bases and the Cardinals found themselves in an absurd predicament:  lefty reliever vs. Mike Napoli with the bases loaded. The Ranger catcher posted a 1.046 OPS this season, which led the Rangers. Rzepczynski for his career had allowed an OPS 211 points higher against righties than lefties. Yet he was the pitcher chosen by La Russa to face one of the game's best right-handed sluggers. The results were teeth-gnashingly predictable. Aided and abetted by La Russa's bullpen management, Napoli launched a double into the Texas night, dashing the hopes and dreams of Cardinals fans for a 3-2 World Series lead.

After the Napoli double La Russa took us into the realm of the surreal. The manager replaced Rzepczynski with Lance Lynn--previously reported as unavilable--who was then ordered to issue another intentional walk. After Lynn successfully issued the free pass by throwing a mere four lob balls he was immediately pulled by the manager for Jason Motte in one of the most absurd bullpen machinations in the history of baseball. (Why not just leave Rzepczynski in to issue the intentional walk? Bringing in Lynn was completely unnecessary!) Motte ended the inning with such dominance that one could not help but wonder how La Russa did not bring him in to face Napoli two batters earlier.

La Russa was not done with bizarre managerial decisions, however. On an evening during which he graciously gave the Rangers three outs via the sacrifice bunt, he apparently thought it wise to hand over a fourth in the top of the ninth. After Allen Craig was fortuitously hit by a Neftali Feliz fastball, the manager decided to give the young slugger the green light on a full count pitch to Albert Pujols. The result: a strike 'em out, throw 'em out double play that ensured Matt Holliday would not represent the tying run at the plate during his subsequent plate appearance.

Tony La Russa has much to answer for after this game. Sadly, if the Cardinal bats had come through a time or two earlier in the game, La Russa likely would not have mattered tonight.

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I stay away from GTs as a general rule...

…and also generally try to NOT post when rather upset… Rule broken tonight.

fuck

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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 25, 2011 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

is anyone alive?

are you hearing this shit? Tony wanted Motte warming up but the bullpen guy MISHEARD him and thought he said Lynn. He wanted Motte for Napoli but he didn’t get up in time.

thats… incredible.

by Wombat x on Oct 25, 2011 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

So we were befuddled because the HOF manager and the bullpen coach can't talk on a phone.

Yikes

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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 25, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Naked Gun 2 1/2

"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"

by KlausChadman on Oct 25, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is a bait and switch

don’t fall for it.

He’s drawing the media hounds off his players. This is TLR 101.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 25, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

actaully, this might be TLR 401

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on the department:

HOF Managing major allows clearing up through TLR 302 in high school, but only with a score of 4 or 5 on the AP Asshattery test.

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by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno dude...

Zep-Napoli is not something TLR would do. I mean, why worry about Murphy/Moreland when you have Albert Pujols lite coming to bat?

by guayzimi on Oct 25, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's frighteningly plausible,

but considering this is TLR, it’s equally plausible Jon Jay discovers a phantom injury and Corey Patterson replaces him on the roster for the return to Bush.

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by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing else makes sense

Who brings in Lynn to deliver an IBB? On the other hand, Lynn and Motte don’t exactly sound alike. Boggs, yes. Lynn, no. Bizarre.

by Merry CRasmus on Oct 25, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I asked Matt Leach about this.

His response was

MatthewHLeach Matthew Leach
@pablohermes No, I don’t think so.

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure if they had heard "Lynn" the reaction would have gone like -

fuck the fuck?

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our comeback at home

Is going to be epic.

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by purple_haze on Oct 25, 2011 12:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

it fucking better be.

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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

POSTIVITY THREAD!

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 25, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

someone suggested babies.

I’m cool with it.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

however, I'm going to break my rally fast

so….. don’t use dinosaurs to murder anyone. much.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like we deserve a negativity thread for tonight.

We can be positive tomorrow.

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Evil babies?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

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by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

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by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 25, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will NOT be reccing this.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 25, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

fvck you.

I was being pessimistic, but not a troll.

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by Zubin on Oct 25, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

After you post something...

that drives 20 people crazy, don’t post it a second and third time. Is thta too much to ask?

by guayzimi on Oct 25, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...see any of Vols posts.

His actual post count probably should be halved for accuracy.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

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by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on now

It’s not that bad

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by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 7:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sometimes I can't tell when something posts.

Especially when the threads go long.

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by Zubin on Oct 25, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Oct 25, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

8 minutes apart?

Double Play would be fitting here
Shitty end to a shitty game.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
by Zubin on Oct 24, 2011 11:31 PM EDT reply actions

Shitty end to a shitty game.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
by Zubin on Oct 24, 2011 11:39 PM EDT reply actions

by guayzimi on Oct 25, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it's happened like that before.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the second post was doubled.

SEriously tho, I was being pessimistic. Didn’t mean to be a troll.

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by Zubin on Oct 25, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's pretty funny

but you’re skirting around the issue. your most egregious trolling i’ve always entered after the fact

i can look up the “MLB playoffs are a farce and anyone who wants their team to win has a fundamental misunderstanding of the game” exchange if you like.

the fact of the matter is that a large portion of your “contribution” to VEB is trolling and you’re getting pissed off about what you falsely interpret as trolling

by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I c wut u did thar

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Morning

Would you please step down from there, with your license and registration?

by redbirds34 on Oct 25, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's up with the sig?

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think you should add that to your sig.

in fact, just make the entire sig, as its current text, a link to that, so people don’t scream at you.

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by tehzachatak on Oct 25, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed Bob Caruthers

Tallied 4.3 WAR as a hitter and 9.6 WAR as a pitcher, epic.

You only did it so that you could wear terry underwear and feel the city air run past your body

by lunchboxbomb on Oct 26, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

what the hell is metabitching?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

see any TPG fanpost

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bitching about bitching

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, yeah

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will take the blame.

I haven’t worn my holliday or berkman shersey in the last two games. Both of which are undefeated.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 25, 2011 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

All of the things that worked in the past wins

Stopped working yesterday and tonight.

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

So um....

no more puppy pictures?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 25, 2011 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

because all that thread did

was make me want to find a puppy and kick it.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 25, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kittens > puppies

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not here

She’s wrong above, but she doesn’t know it yet.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

YOU'RE so, so wrong

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, I ended up getting

pepperoni, bacon, and mushrooms. NO OLIVES.

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good choice

olives are terribad.

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

i haven't liked olives

Ever since I heard someone call them monkey sphincters

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What the fuck is wrong with you people

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't hate

that was fvcking awesome

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

WAT

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Granted

I only eat olives on pizza, and black ones at that, but still…

WAT.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Greek olives are the best

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

French.

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by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

So hipster

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

What IS a hipster, anyway.

But, seriously. Lucques, Nicoise and Picholines are all top 5.

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by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

French people are definitely hipsters

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can you eat these if you wear close-toed shoes?

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

some of them, you can play edward olive hands with,

some of them you can’t.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh that's totally legit

i thought they were just being argumentative

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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are tons of different cultivars of olives that are treated differently in brining/curing.

Different nationalities tend to go toward certain styles, but there’s a ton of variation within a country’s whole lineup.

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by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

cultivars of olives?

what the…

Why would you waste your time on such a terrible, out-moded fruit? Just squeeze the oil from the sumbitches and call it a day.

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

agreed

something wrong about fruit that produce oil

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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

why don't they call it olive milk?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, coconut milk is actually white...

I suppose we could, but I don’t really want to live in a world where olives lactate.

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do.

I have to admit, while expecting a reply from you, I did not expect pervert.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was my third option; I wasn't happy with the google image

search for olive milk, and I didn’t feel up to creating some 12th century quote about olyve mylke.

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by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

RR... vindication?

Clearly not a perv, just into bath products.

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

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by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah, avocados are doing their own thing

in the same way fruit shouldn’t produce oil, they also should also have edible skin
/fruit police

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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't liked olives

ever since I tasted one.

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I may get epicurean here for a moment,

Good olives (my favorites are Green Lucques) with a nice fino… OMG. Literally makes me weak in the knees.

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by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great choice.

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm..

Shoulda gone with bell peppers and not bacon.

But a solid choice.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pepp, bell peppers, and shrooms is a popular choice with me.

But I felt like bacon tonight.

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ohhh agreed.

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so

confused, and disappointed at the same time.

by whattheheckman on Oct 25, 2011 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

touched for the very first time...!

sorry, that was facetious. and 80s.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

it doesn't even make sense

lynn didn’t come in to face napoli, rzep faced napoli, so saying lynn was a mistake is nonsense. he was just buying time for motte

by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

this was suppose to be his finest hour

what a freaking joke.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 25, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

what's happening.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 25, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

look kids

you can joke all you want, but i truly know more about how these things work at a software level than you do. they aren’t infallible. JUST GOOGLE IT! positioning algorithms… its how they work. But I guess a wiki on pitch f/x will satiate the masses…

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait did something happen earlier?

This looks interesting

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

go back to the penultimate gamethread. Or maybe the one before that.

There was quite the menage a trois regarding something or other about sumthin’

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by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

ehh.. its not worth the bother

plus most of the good scholarship is not available on open source… but hey, the crowd will always win the battle

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude who's trying to claim

that he knows more about pitch fx than all of us was originally claiming that it’s some guy sitting in a room plotting the pitches on a graph

then he was claiming that the trajectories were estimated just like home run distances

and some other stuff. but don’t worry, he knows more, he just doesn’t know how to explain it without saying things that are patently false

by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

the guy who thinks he knows it all

usually knows very little. it’s true for everyone. sorry if i came off wrong when i typed up some cursory posts in the heat of the moment. but I still think pitch f/x is not the end all, be all.

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

what are you using that is better than pitch f/x?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

and yes

ultimately, human judgement of fairness should be what determines a good system. After all, balls and strikes exist to impart a degree of fairness to the game, even if they are capricious.

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think pitch f/x is great

just not infallible… there really are issues with the way it it measured. it’s easy, like an oral thermometer. but that’s not the best way to measure temperature.

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

what do you think you know about pitch f/x

if what pj posted below is true, I’d say you know very little.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

pitch f/x is fine

but not without flaw… for one, it uses just two points of reference, giving even the slightest vibration (like say… from crowd noise) a greater affect on the determination than a system with more vantage points would… or one that took things like wind, air temp, and vibration into account. Pitch f/x doesn’t do all that.

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, he's obviously changing his position

to sound less stupid. you can click on the link i posted below to read all about it. you’ll enjoy it, i promise

by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

i said these things, and they aren’t without base

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

explain how the first quote is not 100% wrong

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

because

it has been a decision to use only 2 angles of reference- likely in deference to the umpires. The resources exist to have more, and get better accuracy. But it’s been a human decision to chart things in this nature.

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

so humans designed the system, therefore they were the ones who plotted the graph

gotcha.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

or better yet

by some guy. it’s not a perfect system. I’m not either, but there is room to improve.

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

no one disagrees with you there

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

not on that point

but i disagree that humans plot the pitch fx graphs. i’m also skeptical that this guy is a professional software developer. i think he’s just hoping we don’t know what the word “algorithm” means

by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not a software developer

but i work on developing software-based products. and many include positioning algorithms, i’ve become familiar with this stuff.

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, GPS, you mentioned it

GPS has nothing to do with how pitch fx works. therefore algorithms designed for GPS will not work when the input is data from cameras

by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't work on GPS either

i was looking for an easily recognizable example of how a greater number of points are needed to track, rather than trace, movement. if you have an iPhone, have you ever clicked on the map button, and clicked the arrow to ask your location? chances are, its made some mistakes from time to time. because it uses the same type of system pitch f/x does. granted it’s a larger area, so the margin for error is bigger. but it still exists. sure, lets call that pitch to punto a strike. i’m not about to call pitch f/x the best reference for such a thing.

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh ho.. i see what you did there

i’m not trying to angst the community… but don’t be surprised if a more accurate ( and more fair) system comes about- the ultimate fear is that a perfectly defined zone will favor either hitters or pitchers too much- i’d imagine the former

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 25, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

and simultaneously claim

that you not only understand, but you understand better on a software level?

are you an developer?

by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't need to argue with you

just google it! haha

but yes, i work with positioning algorithms as part of my job.

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coming back from 3-2 deficit

Trying to stay positive after that sh— sandwich. Here’s your list of teams who have come back from a 3 games to 2 deficit to win the Series (x – means they came back from down 3-1). Cards were on the good side of 4 of these, and on the bad side of 3
:
2002—Anaheim (AL) 4, San Francisco (NL) 3
2001—Arizona (NL) 4, New York (AL) 3
1991—Minnesota (AL) 4, Atlanta (NL) 3
1987—Minnesota (AL) 4, St. Louis (NL) 3
1986—New York (NL) 4, Boston (AL) 3
1985—Kansas City (AL) 4, St. Louis (NL) 3-x
1982—St. Louis (NL) 4, Milwaukee (AL) 3
1979—Pittsburgh (NL) 4, Baltimore (AL) 3-x
1973—Oakland (AL) 4, New York (NL) 3
1968—Detroit (AL) 4, St. Louis (NL) 3-x
1958—New York (AL) 4, Milwaukee (NL) 3-x
1952—New York (AL) 4, Brooklyn (NL) 3
1946—St. Louis (NL) 4, Boston (AL) 3
1940—Cincinnati (NL) 4, Detroit (AL) 3
1934—St. Louis (NL) 4, Detroit 3
1926—St. Louis (NL) 4, New York (AL) 3
1925—Pittsburgh (NL) 4, Washington (AL) 3-x
1924—Washington (AL) 4, New York (NL) 3
1921—New York (NL) 5, New York (AL) 3
1903—Boston (AL) 5, Pittsburgh (NL) 3-x

Bats better wake up back home, and Kyle Lohse better be ready to do his best Jeff Suppan game 7 clutch start impression…

by DCRedbird on Oct 25, 2011 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Also 1987 NLCS....

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's almost like

there was a time recently where the team had to win 2 in a row against a superior team to not get eliminated.

by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yep! I'm not all that worried. We have a good shot to win game 6 with Jaime.

We’ll see. And hell, if they beat us, they’re worthy champions, we had a wonderful season, and I’ll be proud of that NL flag forever.
But, let’s just beat ’em anyway!

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

and has others have said

If we go seven it’s basically a bullpen game where Lohse doesn’t get out of the 2nd if he’s not perfect. Then we begin the parade of relievers and that’s when finally we can decide if we won the Rasmus trade or not.

ha

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 25, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to rewrite the ninth inning please

Craig get hit, Albert and Holiday Walk, Berk reaches on a PB…

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Oct 25, 2011 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Seriously, the Rangers were trying to give that away.

I am so depressed.

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Oct 25, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am still steamed at that bunt Craig was told to do

in what was it… the 3rd inning when Furcal was on 2nd with no outs. It took the bat out of Albert’s hands and set up the Holliday double play. That just set the tone to a crushing defeat. I will never understand why they gave up an out there. Horrible!!!

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Oct 25, 2011 12:14 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

So I have a very exciting weekend planned

you better not fuck up my weekend cardinals.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 25, 2011 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

My niece turns 1 this Saturday

and they’re throwing a costume party. I hate dressing up so I intend to go as a baseball player and wear my Cardinals’ stuff. Don’t ruin this for me

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm spending $50 to go to a charity event

But it’s all-you-can-drink, so I feel bad for taking money away from charity

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, if you hold your liquor at all like I do,

charity is ripping you off. And I’m only half Asian. :P

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Girl please

I get CRUNK

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've never seen an Asian get "crunk"

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

None of you have ever drank with me

Will azru did, I guess. Kind of.

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

After a beer, I bet you do!

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Winner.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why are you the way that you are

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the Asian half

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you spot a beligerently drunk waldo.

It might be me.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 25, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

if I have to dress up for halloween, I'm going as ash.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pokemon?

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

boomstick

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I found Star Trek costumes and I wanted to get one

But I don’t have anywhere to go, which is probably not surprising given that I want to get a Star Trek uni for my Halloween costume.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

True fact

A coworker has one of the chainsaws from Army of Darkness signed by Campbell.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing baseball-wise to contribute here

but I’m sitting on my porch in Hawaii, watching the sunset over the mountains on a perfect night. I wish you were all here too, please just soak in the island-y goodness and take a deep breath of the air.

Ahhhhh… it feels good to be a Cardinal fan, and coming home for another swing at the title!

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Well you see, Wash and TLR have this agreement

if you get a free baserunner, you give up an out as a thank you.

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe tha

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Today was a horrible day.

You ever have the kind of day where you want to snarl at everybody?

May Wednesday be better.

Also, can Fox PLEASE stop showing Nolan Ryan every at bat?

by mattisnotfrench on Oct 25, 2011 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

god yes

me and my gf got into it bad … kinda not sure if we are going to break up or what.

Cards game…
a bunch of shit broken and dealing with it for months, sending things back…gettting them back still not fixed or getting new ones with other problems.
just other stuff.

Things have just seemed shitty lately and im pretty mentally drained. Nothing huge, like people dieing but fuck…I really hope we win this thing.

fuck I want a month vacation
lol

by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude.

i am really sorry. that sucks.

my grandmother is slowly dying. so this week has sucked shit for me, too. i wanted a cardinals world series win, but maybe that’s a little bit selfish of me. we’ll see.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Condolences, man.

My grandmother lingered for a long time. It’s about as un-fun as it can be.

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't mind it as much

(which sounds terrible, i know) if her mind wasn’t going first.

it’s just the worst.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

:(

Keep going strong, man! It’ll all work out in the end! :)

by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I actually know exactly where you're coming from.

My grandmother suffered from progressive dementia the last… oh, seven or eight years. By the end, she recognized nobody, except occasionally grandpa. There were some very sweet moments there, but mostly it’s just gathering what strength you can from family, remembering her how she was, and waiting.

All the best.

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh wow.

yeah, this has only been about three years and i have every expectation she’ll be gone, unless she gets really good medical care, in the next year or so. she’s in a bad way.

i really can’t imagine going through this for the better part of a decade.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's like, life, you know?

why’s it got to end so slowly and painfully for? i know we’re so much better off than most everyone, and i know by any statistical measure the quality of life right now is the highest it’s ever been, but it all seems sort of silly when confronted with protracted pain. she’s in her eighties. modern society was crafted in such a way to allow her to live this long, and i’m thankful for that. but now, it’s hard to see the forest for the giant redwood of a tree that is her slow, undignified end. she made it all this way for what?

fuck.

i’d almost rather talk about the baseball game.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank you.

that was weird. i was really saddened by what he said, but laughed at the text. so it balanced out. i appreciate it.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to make light of your situation, as I've been there,

but this is why I smoke, drink, and eat pork fat.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's hard to know whether saying anything is better or not, but:

I presume (from the way you’re talking about it) she raised a loving family and passed on her values. Although life ends, and it rarely ends cleanly, but there is great dignity in those simple things.

The forest is still there, and I know only time lends perspective. But it’s still there, trust me.

Um, go Cardinals.

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks a bunch.

this is helpful. i know what you say is true.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, my dad had Alzheimers, too

It was a slow, horrible process.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't imagine dealing with Alzheimers.

There (if I’m understanding right) there’s not necessarily physical degeneration at the same time, or not as rapid. My grandma had vascular dementia, which meant nervous system degeneration that left her mostly bedridden. It seems like it would be even harder with a loved one physically functional, but with their mind gone.

Anyway not the cheeriest topics, sigh.

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I work with older adults professionally

so I’m unfortunately all too familiar with dementia. My dad was pretty physically healthy right up until the end when he got aspiration pneumonia. He would still walk around, but he wasn’t verbal at all for the last couple years.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

ugh, thats awful

my grandmother went quick…
but my dad was maybe a year and a half of awful.

No one should have to go through any of that.
Heres hoping for the best
and good thoughts to you and your family

by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

almost a year

its just one of those things where we love eachother a lot but we just cant seem to get along

by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

A man's low point in life has got

to coincide with taking dating advice from gdm

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

fashion advice as well

viva la argyle!

TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone

by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have sideways diamond print dude pants on now

from a The Dude costume I wore successfully several years ago. I brandished white russians all night.

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds good!

My, how fast I forget my 24 hour hangover from the weekend.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually....not really

We got really trashed, watched Star Trek Voyager, and passed out, and then I was hungover the entire next day. Haha. Apparently I’m too old for that kind of thing.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Girl you crazy

Are you going to fink’s Halloween party?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

my costume is Henry VIII

I’m in the middle of procuring enough doll heads to fill a bag to carry over my shoulder.
Most of the rest is complete.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

You should try to emulate Jonathan Rhys-Meyers.

He made Henry look goooood.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wild Bob!

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Newt?

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I approve!

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

Would people get it, you think?

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

um... A few.

Plenty of English grad students will be there, but they’re all into theory, so I’m not sure if they’ve actually read any books.

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love, love, love Vonnegut.

So, yes.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kilgore Trout!

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It goes along with my sig line, GDM

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think i need to read more

the last book i read was TLRs 3 nights in august

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 25, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oooooh you should read more

and we can be friends on goodreads

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I live in PA now, remember?

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're 27, you're not even close to being too old

that’s hilarious you watched Star Trek & passed out though. i used to do that all by myself

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 25, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I used to never get hungover

and now it happens every. single. time. Once I hit my mid-20’s, it was over.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't agree with this whatsoever actually

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you're fighting enough that you need a break, then you're probably not meant to be together

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

what kind of circular logic is this?

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

nevermind

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I think a relationship is a choice.

It’s not meant to be…you choose to be in it or you choose not to be in it.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ayup

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well of course

That’s just what came to my mind first instead of “not right for each other” but I think the former sounds gentler

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I gotcha.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

what kind of free will bullshit is this?

determinism all the way baby.

cough

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

wat

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

ya

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

mmhmm

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup wish list for Game 6 (yes, actually, in this order):

Holliday lf
Berkman rf
Pujols 1b
Craig cf
Freese 3b
Schumaker 2b
Molina c
Garcia p
Punto ss

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Whoa, whoa.... whoa.... whoa....

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Craig in center?

Seriously?

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Oct 25, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would you rather have Craig in center, while Jaime pounds grounders at the infield,

or Jay as an automatic out?

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I think you have to allow for the possibility of flyballs

that could be pretty crucial to determining the outcome…

That 1 flyball could be the difference… and you’re really replacing Jay with Schu in an obtuse way.

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

That 1 plate appearance could be the difference just as easily...

it’s a specious argument.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure... but if you look at season numbers and all that good, hard evidence

the odds of Craig screwing the pooch in CF or Skip messing up a DP from 2B seem higher than the offensive upgrade from furcal/punto/jay to punto/skip/craig

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also offense is worth far more than defense.

Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.

"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 25, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, Nate.

I love you a little bit.

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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

At least put Shu in center

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by Zubin on Oct 25, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's been roughly equal to or better than Furcal at the plate over the course of the season/playoffs

and is, according to UZR over the last 3 years, a better defender at short, but the key point I want to make is getting a position player hitting 9th and Holliday and Berkman in front of Albertus Magnus.

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by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glad you're not calling the shots...

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

He'd make better in game decisions than la russa

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Feel free to sub Dirty for Skip if you want.

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by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

So Direct TV is dropping a bunch of channels,

 including FSMW. If I lose Gonzaga basketball this year I’m gonna go Wayne Brady on someone.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

we shall see

there’s always the threat but usually right before it happens a new contract is worked out.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dish went through the same thing with them last year at this time

it took about 6 weeks to get it straightened out

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by scoot on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad they aren't just caving.

If they cave, it means our rates go up.

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by azruavatar on Oct 25, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

at least there's this

Mike Lowell on Motte striking out Andrus in the 8th: “It’s hard to hit 99mph, I don’t care who you are.”

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

but a hit ain't one!

pitch me

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just threw a hissy fit over a pillow.

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

base of fifth metacarpal

“Boxers fracture”

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by scoot on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

What color is it?

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Knuckle going purple

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cut the hand off NOW.

/maynotbesoundmedicaladvice

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by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Done.

Now what do I do about the bleeding stump?

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

just suck on the blood.

It will stop, evetually.

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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck that

cauterize it!

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

God no!

Just had a similar thing to that done on my left hand. Hurts like fuck

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

there it is!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

i went and yelled outside

Guy had his newborn out and the baby started crying. I’d feel bad but the guy is a cubs fan and the kid is destined to cry if he follows that path.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 12:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

With this being it for Carp

I would have liked to see Carp pitch the 8th until he got into trouble.

You could make the argument that a HR would have been ‘leaving him in too late’ however it goes against LaRussa’s ‘hero pitcher’ mentality. Carp must have been hurting or else LaRussa really did go into mental meltdown. It is hard to keep your wits when an 8-year old is doing cartwheels in the other dugout.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2011 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

This one stings

And it’s gonna sting for awhile

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FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Oct 25, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Not if we win the next two

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I think it's going to sting until game 6

And if we don’t win the Series, it’s going to sting all offseason, even if it subsides during game 6 and potentially game 7

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by jd is legend on Oct 25, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was awful in kind of a healing way...

Like, well, that’s it – it’s over, and in spectacular, mind-blowing fashion… I didn’t even freak out that much, I just hung my head and said “go get ’em next year”

And here we are.

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

keithlaw
Did the bullpen phone tell Allen Craig to steal second too? #TLRexcuses

by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

I never noticed this before

But Joe Sheehan is unbearable

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find him annoying

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

super annoying....

I like listening to Rany whateverhisnameis, but you have to suffer through Sheehan too.

by guayzimi on Oct 25, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

subscribe to his newsletter!!!

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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

....

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Meh.

Seasons 2-5 of Lily were fantastic. She’s starting to look pretty old

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably doesn't.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to have to agree with the generic cable rating.

Not Catwoman bad, but pretty bad.

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way, man.

Dan Marino should definitely buy this car. Well, not this one, because I’m going to fuck this one up. But he should definitely buy one just like it.

I was a huge Michael Bay apologist before the Transformers movies. Now, not so much. I’ve walked out of three movies in my life, and the two of those I saw in theaters were two of them.

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

i thought he was yelling at himself.

but give that it’s carp, i have no idea and i wouldn’t put that past him.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I'm looking pretty good today

A white dress shirt under an argyle sweatshirt and dark jeans. With boat shoes.

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions  

argyle sweatshirt? Really?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah man, like this. Except the dress shirt was white

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

In this country, we call that a sweater, Rui

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh whatever, same thing

I’m a little drunk also

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

o/

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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

\o

Got your back.

Not really. hahaha

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by azruavatar on Oct 25, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

And you could stand yourself?

Or was it some out-of-body experience where you wanted to punch yourself every time you saw your reflection?

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I'm sorry that I have a fashion sense

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

/totallyjealous

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Despite your questionable word usage there,

I like that look. Argyle sweaters are hot!

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not a V-neck, though, or else I would've worn a tie with it

But it’ll do

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Completely false

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah?

What do you think good fashion is? Curious

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

In no way does that answer my question

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

...I'm aware of that

I’m just asking what you think looks good

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps I thought it was a passing fad and it is out now

at work, I like haggar or other comfy slacks and a comfortable button up shirt, slightly unique but not too eye catching. tuck in for a more formal look. other than that jeans and t-shirts. I think fashion is pretty silly, but I have engaged in the judging of said fashion, so I suppose I am providing an opinion that is not as advanced on the topic as some opinions. my fashion is that I really don’t care about fashion, but I still try to find interesting prints on button up shirts, or perhaps a death metal t-shirt. perhaps I will blog my entire collection via photograph.

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good fashion depends on the person

He can’t answer your question.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I don’t really have one fashion. I wear lots of different things. but no argyle.

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm asking what he thinks good fashion is

How is that unanswerable?

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

What looks nice?

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

good fashion

doesn’t matter. I’m just saying that the argyle thing is annoying aesthetically to me. I usually go for nondescript stuff I guess.

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

...okay

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

You don't have to like argyle to have good fashion.

There are a lot of other patterns and styles to choose from. You don’t have to like every print that stylists wear. For example animal print is fashionable right now for women. I hate it, I don’t think that means I have poor fashion sense, I just don’t like one particular style.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 25, 2011 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am wearing argyle socks

they are attractive.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

i like argyle socks

because no one else really sees them. I would probably punch myself if I wore that sweater.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

argyle

can’t stand it never will

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Argyle is awesome!

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

but that's just my opinion

and I’m being an asshole because I has sad

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

which reminds me

as I was leaving Austin, I saw a billboard that read “Jean shorts are never okay”
and I thought of VEB and laughed

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I want a Halloween costumes where I can wear jorts

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not funny in KC!

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or as a Kansan?

I saw SO MANY JORTS the two years I lived in Kansas.

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, what kind of caramels are those? Is there a brand? I need to check ingredients against allergens.

My whole family is genetic junk. Except my wife. So… me and my kid.

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

my mother is responsible for those

I mentioned I was making a card, and she volunteered her candy-making services. I thought she was joking, but it turned out she was serious.
What are the various allergies?

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

in other words,

clank enjoying baseball is among her highest priorities, oddly.
Also, she does this to encourage my weird art projects. Apparently physics and math aren’t good enough for her.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

What the fuck is going on here

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh right.

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

rui's mom made me "candy" too

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

clank missed the reply

by about as much as albert missed that pitch in the 9th

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

what did I miss?

I don’t think I missed anything.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your reply stream seemed mislocated

maybe notsomuch

maybe just sleepy

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

nope

I’m fairly certain fink understood me entirely.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know there's heavy cream

but I can say with 87% surety there’s no gluten. I’ll email her and let you know.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

dress shirt under v-neck sweater is a good look.

all grown-up and (in rui’s case) married and shit. it works.

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here in

Merca, we call that a sweater.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whatevs

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

NOPE

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was just telling my husband

that he should get some cardigans.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

My lucky cardigan is out of juju. I'm not sure how I can recharge it. I'll think of something.

Maybe I’ll wear it to the pet store and feed the turtles.

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have the physique to pull off a cardigan, I don't think

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

No. The opposite, actually

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh.

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

and instead of looking like a handsome white guy

you looked like an androgynous asian.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah I got a bunch of compliments actually

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, I had the sleeves unbuttoned and rolled up

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

good. test passed.

cufflinks in a sweater makes me yell at you. french cuffs are for suits.

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

argyle should be on everything

carry on brah

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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I need to get a new winter coat though

Maybe a nice black one? Not quite overcoat length, but same material

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

pea coat

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

What do I do that is not mainstream

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, unlike the rest of us,

your mom.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I do anything that is hipster-related

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

3/4 coats are the shit

and if you hurry, you can get last year’s stock on sale before the shopping season

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's probably too long

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's too long. If I wore a suit every day to work, totes

I don’t, though.

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

5'10

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, you're just above where i'd mandate 3/4 then.

get a well-fitted full, or if that’s not your thing, just get a coat you like.

average height, average build guys though, i will seriously yell at you about 3/4 coats.

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not opposed, certainly

I think they look nice. But I think they look a bit formal if you’re not wearing a suit

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

This whole sub-thread should come with a big fat warning.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of how to impress people? I guess

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in college.

This is a place where dressing like a douche is revered by the way. I’m not too worried about how I look, fashion-wise.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dressing nicely = dressing like a douche?

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

for the most part, yes.

This is why I miss the nineties. Couldn’t miss with a pair of jeans and a flannel.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do that pretty often too

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

flannel, yeah!

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I miss the nineties for so many reasons.

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

music was so good.

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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hell yeah

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I really miss the Spice Girls too

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

How old are you, Rui?

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

22

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

that wasn't music.

You really have no idea. Music sucked, basically from about 74 till 91. And then, everything was awesome for about seven years or so.

It might have been the drugs though.

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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

f'n Brittney

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like 80's music

but in a “this is bad, but I’m still enjoying/nostalgic” kind of way.

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

JESSIE WAS A FRIEND

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

OF MINE

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

(was jok)

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Late 80's were really good

Early Pixies, Nirvana.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I classify both of those in my ninetis genre.

I call it the formative years.

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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

But... But... The Wall!

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

God I hate the Wall

Animals was good though.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

My personal favorite Pink album

I gave it a full 3 repeats today at work… it’s just magical.

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's held up to repeated listens better than Wish You Were Here or Meddle

I don’t think it’s one of their best albums though.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, not the best from a technical standpoint

It just is great listening for me… fits what I liked about them perfectly I guess.

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you ever heard More?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Give it a listen, I think it's definitely held up the best

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Youtubed a couple songs

I will have to get this. I dismissed their work they did for films because of my misconception that it was more like modern film soundtracks. Not the case it seems.

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by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

There are some soundtrack songs, but there are also 8 or 9 full songs on the album. Check out some of their other soundtrack stuff, Zabriskie point has a great song called Country Song.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was speaking with a wide brush.

For every Wall, there were a thousand Cindi Laupers

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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dig it.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love Petty.

I also prefer to not think of him as an eighties, or seventies for that matter, musician.

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by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i like him

just saw him last year (or was it this?)

by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Impossible.

Because I like Tom Petty.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 25, 2011 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Basically, I'm saying college doesn't have a really high standard for dressing nicely.

So dressing how I normally would ends up working out pretty well.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that's true

If you every want to stand out, though, start dressing really nicely.

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, definitely do that while you're there.

And then (I’m telling you) don’t be hesitant to switch to dressing like a grown-up when you’re out. Because, um, girls (or boys, but I’m assuming girls).

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

you go to mizzou right?

dressing nicely to class is a very easy, very effective way to impress girls

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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good place to ask I suppose:

But what should I be for Halloween that requires little resources?

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zombie Steve Jobs

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is what I am, but one-upped

put a single button on the front, maybe an apple logo on the back, and you’re an iDied. i’m infinitely entertained by that joke, FYI.

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not wearing make-up sorry

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Three-hole punch version of Gabe

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

do you have a beard, y/n

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

No I don't.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

A drunk guy

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

You won't get a straight answer on that.

It was probably a missed sign by McKay (my guess, given the evidence).

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

The never run in front of Pujols

Line of thought has now been replaced with you must run in front of Pujols

by Merry CRasmus on Oct 25, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

dgoold Derrick Goold
Pujols calls a hit and run then doesn’t swing. Motte is supposed to be warmed up; Lynn was. Welcome to Grapefruit League action #worldseries

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that title pretty much sums it up

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Ionesco loves it

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha, "then things took a turn for the surreal"

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to go read about the russians invading europe

lets get them wednesday. go crads.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 25, 2011 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Russian Rangers?

I prefer to think of this scenario as the Rangers being French, and the Cards being the northerly Russians. Do YOU know what happens when you invade Russia with winter approaching? Shit gets real.

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by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just read this on Twitter and laughed.

The Rangers take a 3-2 lead in the World Series. Or as George W Bush calls it, “Mission Accomplished.”

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:55 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

/politics

seriously.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Politics or no,

it’s freaking hilarious. We can appreciate that.

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah.

i laughed too. i just like to say “/politics”. no worries.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think you're wrong

it’s doubtful anyone’s going to get upset about a well placed “mission accomplished” joke, but then there’s the inevitable “where’s the line?” questions that pop up. probably best just to avoid it

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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually agree with him

JeffPassan Jeff Passan
I’ve never left a clubhouse more confused. Conflicting stories, mixed-up calls, blown opportunities. The Cardinals go home an abject mess.

by Wombat x on Oct 25, 2011 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Meh.

Passan is great at telling a story, but his tweets don’t translate. Plus he’s young and his reputation gets to his head sometimes. Funny how baseball story lines can change from one game to the next…but ultimately, this team seems to respond well to being counted out. It should be an interesting finish.

by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

#messyflight

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 25, 2011 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hi friends.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 12:59 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

why didn't you run onto the field and save tony from himself?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was pissed

He embarrassed me in front of all of my new Rangers fans friends.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

have you resorted to Junior Mints?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

well at least some good came of it

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it...

Pomegranate milk pie?

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some pretty delicious toppins on that mirite

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

wake up wake up

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Herro

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if it's just me

but it’s so weird to see so many of my StL Facebook acquaintances (i.e., people I haven’t talked to in some 7 years) with Torty and “Carp meme” (with the HA! in the middle) profile pictures. I really hope none of them are VEBers

by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:00 AM EDT reply actions  

i'm sure they went to the same high school.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

of course most of them did

I dunno, I guess it’s just me

by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

but seriously, VEB is just really viral

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's like the /b/ of the Cardinals

No, I’m not even joking. We talk about the most random bullshit and spawn Cardinal memes at the same time.

Am I too drunk right now?

by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't like loss #2, but it was at least comprehensible.

What the fuck did I witness tonight?

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 25, 2011 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

a giant cluster fuck

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

it doesn't appear you will get any discussion here

its world series game 5 but all people are doing is talking about fashion… odd.

by Wombat x on Oct 25, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

THIS IS WHAT WE DO

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

No offense, but you're new.

This is how we deal with shit.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

there is a lot of weird shit that just happened though, i wanted to get some other perspectives on it but no one is talking about it

by Wombat x on Oct 25, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

The hard-hitting analysis comes on the off day

Need more distance, fewer raw emotions

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

last thread we vented.

we’re on step 4 or 5 now.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Fuck those guys.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

which part is the wrestling?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

We were talking about it.

Now we’re forgetting.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

or as we like to call it: drinking

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm too old for that.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose we could all mourn the loss of a great Carpenter start

and a very winnable game, but we are engaging in group therapy right now.

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

What happens when give a senial old bastard a ballclub to manage

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now we know

How Tigers fans felt back in 2006…

by DiscoJer on Oct 25, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's past midnight.

if y’all want to post baby animals………………

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Craig's run didn't matter

Down by two in the ninth inning, the most infuriating part about Craig running on 3-2 with Albert up is that Craig’s run didn’t matter.

by DeWitt4Torty on Oct 25, 2011 1:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah there was literally no reason to do it

Other than avoiding the DP I guess

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh. ok.

How do you feel about pomegranates?

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love pomegranate juyce.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

$$$ though

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is more fun when you don't agree with me.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank you.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not as expensive as those damne acai berries

also, not as annoying and pretentious sounding

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't like it

Still don’t like it….Albert hits the ball in the air…

by Iowa on Oct 25, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

in which case, no harm done.

I see it as protecting the tying run, risked against the chance of Pujols striking out. Which, conservatively, is 20%. I cannot mentally do the math of that being a good decision (which means it probably wasn’t) but whatever.

by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But Albert’s been hitting the ball in the air lately.

by DeWitt4Torty on Oct 25, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

naw

the most infuriating part is the best hitter in baseball swinging at ball four

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 25, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But Albert’s been hitting the ball in the air lately.

by DeWitt4Torty on Oct 25, 2011 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Just stopped by for a recap

And all I know is a shitload about olives…

by Iowa on Oct 25, 2011 1:04 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

And argyle sweaters!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

The funniest part

is that I inadvertently started the olive thing, and I HATE olives.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

The green ones are good

with a draft beer….no shit…in the glass

by Iowa on Oct 25, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

guys... is clank unable to see us?

did he turn off auto-refresh?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I wish my sister had given me the WPA key so I could use my netbook

and have a riveting conversation with clankbot

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Bro just go to Fangraphs

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

CLANK WE'RE HERE

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

JUST GO TO G+ TO SEE THE MESSAGE!

(a fink, he can’t hear you!)

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

omg this is how horror movies start.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is a sci-fi series, I knew it

I’ve seen this episode before

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

IT'S ONLY MIDNIGHT WEIRDOS

I even used my first emoticon.
c’mon c’mon I can’t stay up forever
I have to drive to Austin tomorrow

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:12 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

it's you.

sorry

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's what she said

wait
DAMMIT

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

whoa.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find this really funny

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

watch some futurama dude

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

now i'm scared for clank.

VEB is terrible at warning people about that guy hiding in the curtains!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:13 AM EDT reply actions  

holy shit.

it’s like VEB is waging thermonuclear war on itself.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

the dude hasn't mounted the bomb yet.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought we've moved on rather well.

It’ll be the off season soon, and this is good practice.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually really love late night offseason VEB

Crazy shit

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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

when RB doesn't delete it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

well fuck me

how did I managed to turn that off
HEY GUYS

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Howdy

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh, thanks pal

I was sitting and waiting and waiting and waiting

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

game was so much fun!

SO MUCH FUN. Yeah, it really really sucked that we lost, but I’m so glad I went.
Also, I befriended an evil wizard.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

WAS IT MATT KEMP

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

WAT

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

It can't be good

to follow in Sammy Sosa’s footsteps

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

go!

absolutely worth it.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on money, weather, and health.

I don’t mind sitting in a cold, wet stadium, but I don’t like driving at night when it’s raining, and I’ll be driving home after the game (around 2 hours)

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is wrong with you

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i bet it's delicious

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course I have

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of figured

How is it? Never had it before

by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, this was like 6 years ago

I didn’t mind it. They’re really bony

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

isn't this some kind of Pennsylvania thing

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I live there.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

noted.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't know

I’m actually not that adventurous with food.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, i'm serious

I can’t remember which locality actually does specialize in making such a soup.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't doubt it.

They have a lot of local foods here with which I am not familiar (native Missourian, transplanted to PA).

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

could be!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Turtle burgers

Just like those commercials they keep showing during the game.

(Well, close enough)

by DiscoJer on Oct 25, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

so i am pumped for game 6

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 25, 2011 1:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Whooooooooooooo

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're not going are you

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 25, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not unless Sig offers me tickets in the next 2 days

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

i am very glad for the off day.

i can’t even imagine baseball tomorrow. i feel crushed. that game was so very winnable.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

on the other hand,

you’ll be AT the game. so have a lot of fun! here’s hoping for a win!

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

there should be some kind of in-stadium veb meet up for shots

do they have shots at busch? maybe it has to be a domestic beer meet up

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 25, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

tweet at me and i'll do a shot with you.

just we’ll be in completely separate places.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hotme!

Pujols at home again!

The arch in the outfield!

Allen Craig pinch-hitting heroics!

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Copious amounts of rain!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 7:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And cold temperatures!

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, me too

i’ll be sitting in class listening to some jackasses, myself included, give presentations about makeshift eyetrackers we built

by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I sat next to the tallest guy in the world

and he had an eerie knack for calling things before they happened.
Before Moreland’s home run, he quietly said, “he’s going to hit a home run here.” After the home run I marveled, “WIZARDRY!” and he chuckled. He then went on to predict many other things, such as the inning for the Rangers tying the game, various strikeouts by both sides, Allen Craig getting caught stealing, the outcome of the game, etc.
Everything he said came to be, with exactness.
CLYDE BRUCKMAN’S BASEBALL DOPPELGANGER.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

so basically you sat next to Dr. Who and didn't notice.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

the beard threw me!

also, I hope this bat-signaled chalk into appearing to say, “it’s the Doctor, not Dr. Who!”

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, I am really sleepy at this point

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

You get so many points for the Clyde Bruckman reference.

SO MANY POINTS.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

twitter @sirensofsilence

by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was talking with my Korean cohort about TLR bringing in Lynn to intentionally walk a batter

then pulling Lynn after the IBB, well he said the LG Twin’s manager did exactly the same thing earlier this year.

by Tuning in from Korea on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 AM EDT reply actions  

On the plus side, TLR gave us a wonderful gif tonight

We can all post that double facepalm he did after Rzepczynski failed to come up with that grounder.

Y’know, after TLR comes back next season and continues to TLR his way around the late innings.

PS this is my first post; I’ve lurked here forever. Sorry it’s not in better circumstances.

by SAFairGame on Oct 25, 2011 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

This would be a good gif to have in our back pocket.

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome!

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry, but I'll be the judge of your lurking prowess.

LOY.

Also, this search snafu is probably going to eff up my efforts.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

QUICK QUESTION WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MY MOM

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

very giving

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

very.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

and warm.

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

this should be the litmus test for membership.

the only right answer is “mr. rui is a saint!”

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh god.

mrs.
that was not a tranny joke, i promise.
where’s bobo.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, buddy!

You’re my best friend! Let’s grab a beer!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd.

the mysterui’s mom joke needs to die i think. it’s had a really really long run.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn I didn't even realize it at the time

Murphy’s ball was a tailor made double play ball if rzep lets it go by him. This was just one of those games where everything that could go wrong did go wrong. (insert Murphy’s law joke since it was Murphy batting here)

by Wombat x on Oct 25, 2011 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Can someone post the Picture of Berkman with the glove on his head that says something about a headress?

Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."

by cj2k on Oct 25, 2011 1:59 AM EDT reply actions  

good night,

fellow tremblers in the world’s storm-troubled sphere.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 25, 2011 2:02 AM EDT reply actions  

is TLR really sticking with they couldn't hear me on the bullpen phone?

they’re all laughing at you Tony. they’re all laughing. we would be too if we weren’t crying

Balls

by gdm426 on Oct 25, 2011 2:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Which reminds me

I got into a weird discussion after the game with another Cardinals fan.
He was pissed at Lynn, saying he better learn to suck up his dead arm ‘cause he’s going to be a starter next year.
me: uhhhhhhhh

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 25, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watched this game at the bar w/ no audio

Just got home and was hoping that VEB could explain this game to me. VEB could not. We must look elsewhere for answers.

Time and again we see the reliance on a proven methodology... a methodology separate from human experience... built upon figures, not feelings... which encourages our dependence on the empirical world... a world with no room for ground-rule doubles... Inherited Runners Scored

by DaneIorg on Oct 25, 2011 2:38 AM EDT reply actions  

In Summary:

1. RonWash and TLR made this quite possibly the worst-managed game in WS history. 2. Allen Craig might be slower than Torty. 3. We got 4 baserunners on in an inning and didn’t score. That is all. 4. For some reason we have yet to realize Neftali Feliz hasn’t heard of this thing called a “strike zone.” 5. TLR brought in a pitcher to only issue an intentional walk. 6. Supposedly there was some bullpen phone confusion.

Anything else?

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

7 hits, 9 walks, 2 errors, 1 hbp

= 19 base runners and 2 runs. Is that even possible

by Wombat x on Oct 25, 2011 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because they gave away what, 6 outs?

4 sac bunts and 2 caught stealings, IIRC.

It just doesn’t make sense to sac bunt that much. Not on this team, full of guys that strike out and are as slow as dirt, setting up a double play easily.

by DiscoJer on Oct 25, 2011 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

The bunts were all awful

The worst was the Craig bunt in the 3rd inning. Just completely indefensible. Then the pinch bunt by Theriot to set up Punto (by he way I know everyone loves his glove but my god, the guy just can’ freaking hit) and Furcal. Looking at the play by play of this game is so painful. The top of the 7th has to go down as one of the worst innings for managers in WS history.

by Wombat x on Oct 25, 2011 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair to craig

Both of his CS were on 97+ mph fastballs. Not many guys are going to be able to beat that

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You know what does make it plausible that there was miscommunication with Motte not facing Napoli?

There aren’t really defined roles in your bullpen, from what I’ve seen in the postseason. For example, with the Giants, you know in the 8th its Romo or Lopez, not anyone else. But for STL, you never really know what TLR is up to with relievers, making it possible they heard “Lynn” and just warmed him up without asking questions. Just my .02

What's great about BABIP becoming mainstream is now the fan never actually has to admit his team flat-out lost.

<3 Kanani Madison

by giant4life83 on Oct 25, 2011 2:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Even if it was...

That doesn’t mean he had to stick with Rzep.

Just have him check on runners until Motte is ready. Last time I checked, you were allowed to do that as much as you want – keep throwing to the base with the runner at it.

Granted, that doesn’t make that much sense with runners on 2nd and 3rd. But so what? It’s just killing time until the right guy warms up.

by DiscoJer on Oct 25, 2011 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Game 6 tickets

Are like 230 right now, how much do you guys think they will be down to by wed afternoon?

by Wombat x on Oct 25, 2011 3:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Well shit

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

though i dont buy the whole bullpen thing

Someone made an interesting point and said perhaps larussa asked for motte for napoli and they thought he said mark. Tony usually calls Scrabble by his first name and I could see motte and mark sounding alike though I don’t know why you bring in Lynn to walk a guy, just let Scrabble do it.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 7:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

nm

Saw this morning Tony asked for both Scrabble and motte

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 7:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Really because on Mike and Mike they thought he wanted Motte to pitch to Napoli.

I was asleep when the original stuff was happening so I don’t know.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 25, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

he did

He wanted Mark and Motte up – Mark was supposed to work around Napoli and then Motte would come in but that didn’t happen.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you mean he didn't...he wanted Mark to pitch to Napoli but not really pitch just throw the ball up there.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 25, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

FFS

I don’t know if you guys saw this little gem, but apparently not taking responsibility runs in the family.

from Devon Larussa’s Twitter:

I saw a crack head doing “The Wash” today. Coincidence? I think not…

The tweet was deleted and followed up with

I really truly did not mean to be offensive! It’s a phrase I use, meant as a joke. Please don’t be offended! Go Cards!!!

Lamer excuse: Tony’s bid to be the new Verizon spokesperson, or Devon’s saying whatever the hell she’s saying (I really can’t tell if she’s referring to all black people as crackheads or just managers who jump up and down, either way it looks bad).

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Once again

Washington was buste with cocaine…I believe she is talking directly about him

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

obvious tweet is obvious

I’m being facetious. Her saying it’s a joke she uses looks really bad, because now instead of calling a manager a crackhead you look like you’re referring to all black people as crackheads. Not too mention the whole casting stones thing, Larussa DUI cough cough.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah yes

I see it now

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

By trying to make excuses

you make yourself look worse. Ah, the Larusa® way indeed!

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean

The LaRussa Way®

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I wish teams could pinch manage

It was obvious Tony didn’t have it last night. Get someone else in there.

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Hey guys and girls

TONY SAC BUNTED WITH ALLEN CRAIG LAST NIGHT.

RAAAAAGGGGGEEEEE

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Good News

My father and I are going to game 6, a game pitched by Jaime Garcia. We have never been to a Jaime start in which he did not throw a gem.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=300822124

Game score: 87, batters faced after 9 IP: 28

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

We are the only two people here

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ITS TWO TO TWO

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Crazy Game

Wow, that was one crazy game. Since it involved the Cardinals, let an ex Cardinal say it best: There is one word in America that says it all, and that one word is, ‘You never know.’" – Joaquin Andujar

by deweydell on Oct 25, 2011 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe when you say "youneverknow" you actually mean

“freaking stupidity”.

9 freaking walks and 2 freaking errors given to us.

by sdrone on Oct 25, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is a game scheduled for tomorrow

so there’s still a chance.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 25, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why sure

Run those boys back out there,
Let’s see what they can do.
If you got Cardinals on your jersey,
I’ll be rootin’ hard for you…

by deweydell on Oct 25, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was a best of 7 series not best of 5

so there is still a chance.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 25, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

gotta win tomorrow

that’s about all I can say

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shift-A

LaRussa has made it pretty damned difficult to take the Cards seriously. WTactualF?

Still rooting for you guys, but with slightly rolled eyes and a perceptible head shake.

Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.

"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 25, 2011 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

The title ‘Theatre of the Absurd’ is particular bad when it refers to the play that went on during a game. La Russa needs to get a reality check and realize that his crazed decisions are affecting more than himself; it affects the entire team and game.

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by rfreddreka on Oct 26, 2011 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

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