St. Louis Cardinals Hitters Fail with RISP, Allow Tony La Russa to Turn Game 5 into Theatre of the Absurd
Game 5 was the fault of the Cardinal hitters. Had someone--anyone--managed a hit with runners in scoring position manager Tony La Russa's bullpen managing would have been marginalized. As fate would have it, though, La Russa took center stage with a display of either drunkenness, hubris, or complete ineptitude.
The eighth inning of Game 5 of the 2011 World Series will go down as the worse-managed in franchise history. With the game, like the series, tied 2-2 La Russa called upon his bullpen for the first time in the game. In came Octavio Dotel who was rudely greeted by Michael Young who laced a double to the right-center field gap. Dotel then blew Adian Beltre away on three pitches with the K coming on an eye-high 95-MPH heater. With one out and the go-ahead runner standing on second base, La Russa transformed Rangers Ballpark into a theatre of the absurd.
A coaching visit to the mound communicated the managerial order to intentionally walk Nelson Cruz. Dotel has been a brutal force against right-handed batters not named Yuni Betancourt this postseason and Cruz is prone to the strikeout. Nonetheless the manager elected to put another runner on. Dotel struggled to lob intentional balls in the air to Molina's mitt but managed to do La Russa's bidding. Now with runners on first and second with one out La Russa called on Marc Rzpeczynski.
A grounder that bounced off the lefty loaded the bases and the Cardinals found themselves in an absurd predicament: lefty reliever vs. Mike Napoli with the bases loaded. The Ranger catcher posted a 1.046 OPS this season, which led the Rangers. Rzepczynski for his career had allowed an OPS 211 points higher against righties than lefties. Yet he was the pitcher chosen by La Russa to face one of the game's best right-handed sluggers. The results were teeth-gnashingly predictable. Aided and abetted by La Russa's bullpen management, Napoli launched a double into the Texas night, dashing the hopes and dreams of Cardinals fans for a 3-2 World Series lead.
After the Napoli double La Russa took us into the realm of the surreal. The manager replaced Rzepczynski with Lance Lynn--previously reported as unavilable--who was then ordered to issue another intentional walk. After Lynn successfully issued the free pass by throwing a mere four lob balls he was immediately pulled by the manager for Jason Motte in one of the most absurd bullpen machinations in the history of baseball. (Why not just leave Rzepczynski in to issue the intentional walk? Bringing in Lynn was completely unnecessary!) Motte ended the inning with such dominance that one could not help but wonder how La Russa did not bring him in to face Napoli two batters earlier.
La Russa was not done with bizarre managerial decisions, however. On an evening during which he graciously gave the Rangers three outs via the sacrifice bunt, he apparently thought it wise to hand over a fourth in the top of the ninth. After Allen Craig was fortuitously hit by a Neftali Feliz fastball, the manager decided to give the young slugger the green light on a full count pitch to Albert Pujols. The result: a strike 'em out, throw 'em out double play that ensured Matt Holliday would not represent the tying run at the plate during his subsequent plate appearance.
Tony La Russa has much to answer for after this game. Sadly, if the Cardinal bats had come through a time or two earlier in the game, La Russa likely would not have mattered tonight.
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I stay away from GTs as a general rule...
…and also generally try to NOT post when rather upset… Rule broken tonight.
fuck
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 25, 2011 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
is anyone alive?
are you hearing this shit? Tony wanted Motte warming up but the bullpen guy MISHEARD him and thought he said Lynn. He wanted Motte for Napoli but he didn’t get up in time.
thats… incredible.
So we were befuddled because the HOF manager and the bullpen coach can't talk on a phone.
Yikes
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 25, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
omfg! next time put K-Mac in the bullpen so he can interpret the sign language!
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
The Naked Gun 2 1/2
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
by KlausChadman on Oct 25, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
It is a bait and switch
don’t fall for it.
He’s drawing the media hounds off his players. This is TLR 101.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
actaully, this might be TLR 401
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
dude, I heard you can clear those credits in high school, but I said that was BS
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends on the department:
HOF Managing major allows clearing up through TLR 302 in high school, but only with a score of 4 or 5 on the AP Asshattery test.
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno dude...
Zep-Napoli is not something TLR would do. I mean, why worry about Murphy/Moreland when you have Albert Pujols lite coming to bat?
It's frighteningly plausible,
but considering this is TLR, it’s equally plausible Jon Jay discovers a phantom injury and Corey Patterson replaces him on the roster for the return to Bush.
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing else makes sense
Who brings in Lynn to deliver an IBB? On the other hand, Lynn and Motte don’t exactly sound alike. Boggs, yes. Lynn, no. Bizarre.
by Merry CRasmus on Oct 25, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
Motte and Lynn don’t sound alike. Not even close
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I asked Matt Leach about this.
His response was
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@pablohermes No, I don’t think so.
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I'm pretty sure if they had heard "Lynn" the reaction would have gone like -
fuck the fuck?
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
it fucking better be.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
POSTIVITY THREAD!
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 25, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
someone suggested babies.
I’m cool with it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
however, I'm going to break my rally fast
so….. don’t use dinosaurs to murder anyone. much.
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel like we deserve a negativity thread for tonight.
We can be positive tomorrow.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Evil babies?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
redundant
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by azruavatar on Oct 25, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
This.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Heh
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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I will NOT be reccing this.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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fvck you.
I was being pessimistic, but not a troll.
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After you post something...
that drives 20 people crazy, don’t post it a second and third time. Is thta too much to ask?
Yeah...see any of Vols posts.
His actual post count probably should be halved for accuracy.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Come on now
It’s not that bad
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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 7:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sometimes I can't tell when something posts.
Especially when the threads go long.
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8 minutes apart?
Double Play would be fitting here
Shitty end to a shitty game.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
by Zubin on Oct 24, 2011 11:31 PM EDT reply actions
Shitty end to a shitty game.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
by Zubin on Oct 24, 2011 11:39 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, it's happened like that before.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Yes.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I thought the second post was doubled.
SEriously tho, I was being pessimistic. Didn’t mean to be a troll.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
you calling out someone trolling a thread
is like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Trolling prophetjohn is not "trolling"
by guayzimi on Oct 25, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
lol
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's pretty funny
but you’re skirting around the issue. your most egregious trolling i’ve always entered after the fact
i can look up the “MLB playoffs are a farce and anyone who wants their team to win has a fundamental misunderstanding of the game” exchange if you like.
the fact of the matter is that a large portion of your “contribution” to VEB is trolling and you’re getting pissed off about what you falsely interpret as trolling
by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
i know that both of these statements are facts
that’s where my accusation is coming from
by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
if you have bad internet, sometimes it may not seem that the post has gone through so you click Post again
happened to me several times
What's up with the sig?
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
It made more sense with a link
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/STL/1886.shtml
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
i think you should add that to your sig.
in fact, just make the entire sig, as its current text, a link to that, so people don’t scream at you.
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I noticed Bob Caruthers
Tallied 4.3 WAR as a hitter and 9.6 WAR as a pitcher, epic.
You only did it so that you could wear terry underwear and feel the city air run past your body
by lunchboxbomb on Oct 26, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
such bullshit that we're in the world series
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 25, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
what the hell is metabitching?
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
see any TPG fanpost
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
oh, yeah
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I will take the blame.
I haven’t worn my holliday or berkman shersey in the last two games. Both of which are undefeated.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
All of the things that worked in the past wins
Stopped working yesterday and tonight.
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Kittens > puppies
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Not here
She’s wrong above, but she doesn’t know it yet.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
YOU'RE so, so wrong
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW, I ended up getting
pepperoni, bacon, and mushrooms. NO OLIVES.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
i haven't liked olives
Ever since I heard someone call them monkey sphincters
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What the fuck is wrong with you people
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WAT
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Granted
I only eat olives on pizza, and black ones at that, but still…
WAT.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Greek olives are the best
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So hipster
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
What IS a hipster, anyway.
But, seriously. Lucques, Nicoise and Picholines are all top 5.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
French people are definitely hipsters
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Never
The olive industry totally sold out
by Merry CRasmus on Oct 25, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Can you eat these if you wear close-toed shoes?
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
what's the difference between greek, french, and generic olives?
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
some of them, you can play edward olive hands with,
some of them you can’t.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
oh that's totally legit
i thought they were just being argumentative
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
There are tons of different cultivars of olives that are treated differently in brining/curing.
Different nationalities tend to go toward certain styles, but there’s a ton of variation within a country’s whole lineup.
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cultivars of olives?
what the…
Why would you waste your time on such a terrible, out-moded fruit? Just squeeze the oil from the sumbitches and call it a day.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
by Toppins on Oct 25, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
something wrong about fruit that produce oil
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
why don't they call it olive milk?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Well, coconut milk is actually white...
I suppose we could, but I don’t really want to live in a world where olives lactate.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
I do.
I have to admit, while expecting a reply from you, I did not expect pervert.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It was my third option; I wasn't happy with the google image
search for olive milk, and I didn’t feel up to creating some 12th century quote about olyve mylke.
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RR... vindication?

Clearly not a perv, just into bath products.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
nah, avocados are doing their own thing
in the same way fruit shouldn’t produce oil, they also should also have edible skin
/fruit police
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
So if you can't like olives
then nobody can. I see how it is.
by Merry CRasmus on Oct 25, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I haven't liked olives
ever since I tasted one.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
If I may get epicurean here for a moment,
Good olives (my favorites are Green Lucques) with a nice fino… OMG. Literally makes me weak in the knees.
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Hmm..
Shoulda gone with bell peppers and not bacon.
But a solid choice.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Pepp, bell peppers, and shrooms is a popular choice with me.
But I felt like bacon tonight.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
3 things I can't eat! Oh, and also the pizza crust!
Your dinner would kill me!
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I'm so
confused, and disappointed at the same time.
by whattheheckman on Oct 25, 2011 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
touched for the very first time...!
sorry, that was facetious. and 80s.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
it doesn't even make sense
lynn didn’t come in to face napoli, rzep faced napoli, so saying lynn was a mistake is nonsense. he was just buying time for motte
i thought that part was pretty clever actually
it certainly worked
by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
don't forget to include altitudinal directional rotational magnitude
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
gps triangulates for a reason hombre
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
that's why you need a gyroscope
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
look kids
you can joke all you want, but i truly know more about how these things work at a software level than you do. they aren’t infallible. JUST GOOGLE IT! positioning algorithms… its how they work. But I guess a wiki on pitch f/x will satiate the masses…
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
did you really just bring this up again? Fortunately, I think pj and pegasus have left the building.
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Wait did something happen earlier?
This looks interesting
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go back to the penultimate gamethread. Or maybe the one before that.
There was quite the menage a trois regarding something or other about sumthin’
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ehh.. its not worth the bother
plus most of the good scholarship is not available on open source… but hey, the crowd will always win the battle
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
dude who's trying to claim
that he knows more about pitch fx than all of us was originally claiming that it’s some guy sitting in a room plotting the pitches on a graph
then he was claiming that the trajectories were estimated just like home run distances
and some other stuff. but don’t worry, he knows more, he just doesn’t know how to explain it without saying things that are patently false
the guy who thinks he knows it all
usually knows very little. it’s true for everyone. sorry if i came off wrong when i typed up some cursory posts in the heat of the moment. but I still think pitch f/x is not the end all, be all.
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
what are you using that is better than pitch f/x?
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
and yes
ultimately, human judgement of fairness should be what determines a good system. After all, balls and strikes exist to impart a degree of fairness to the game, even if they are capricious.
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
i think pitch f/x is great
just not infallible… there really are issues with the way it it measured. it’s easy, like an oral thermometer. but that’s not the best way to measure temperature.
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
what do you think you know about pitch f/x
if what pj posted below is true, I’d say you know very little.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
pitch f/x is fine
but not without flaw… for one, it uses just two points of reference, giving even the slightest vibration (like say… from crowd noise) a greater affect on the determination than a system with more vantage points would… or one that took things like wind, air temp, and vibration into account. Pitch f/x doesn’t do all that.
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
well, he's obviously changing his position
to sound less stupid. you can click on the link i posted below to read all about it. you’ll enjoy it, i promise
but seriously, this is fascinating stuff
the fact is, ultimately these locations are put on the graph by some guy
i truly know more about how these things work at a software level than you do
can’t make it up
yep
i said these things, and they aren’t without base
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
explain how the first quote is not 100% wrong
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
because
it has been a decision to use only 2 angles of reference- likely in deference to the umpires. The resources exist to have more, and get better accuracy. But it’s been a human decision to chart things in this nature.
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
so humans designed the system, therefore they were the ones who plotted the graph
gotcha.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
or better yet
by some guy. it’s not a perfect system. I’m not either, but there is room to improve.
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
no one disagrees with you there
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not on that point
but i disagree that humans plot the pitch fx graphs. i’m also skeptical that this guy is a professional software developer. i think he’s just hoping we don’t know what the word “algorithm” means
i'm not a software developer
but i work on developing software-based products. and many include positioning algorithms, i’ve become familiar with this stuff.
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, GPS, you mentioned it
GPS has nothing to do with how pitch fx works. therefore algorithms designed for GPS will not work when the input is data from cameras
i don't work on GPS either
i was looking for an easily recognizable example of how a greater number of points are needed to track, rather than trace, movement. if you have an iPhone, have you ever clicked on the map button, and clicked the arrow to ask your location? chances are, its made some mistakes from time to time. because it uses the same type of system pitch f/x does. granted it’s a larger area, so the margin for error is bigger. but it still exists. sure, lets call that pitch to punto a strike. i’m not about to call pitch f/x the best reference for such a thing.
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
oh ho.. i see what you did there
i’m not trying to angst the community… but don’t be surprised if a more accurate ( and more fair) system comes about- the ultimate fear is that a perfectly defined zone will favor either hitters or pitchers too much- i’d imagine the former
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
rec'd
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
it just fascinates me that you're willing to stand behind an argument
such as claiming that the graphs are plotted by a human.
and simultaneously claim
that you not only understand, but you understand better on a software level?
are you an developer?
i don't need to argue with you
just google it! haha
but yes, i work with positioning algorithms as part of my job.
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
go to bed, its late there
i like you, i do. but i have good reasons for disagreeing on the pitch f/x matter.
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Coming back from 3-2 deficit
Trying to stay positive after that sh— sandwich. Here’s your list of teams who have come back from a 3 games to 2 deficit to win the Series (x – means they came back from down 3-1). Cards were on the good side of 4 of these, and on the bad side of 3
:
2002—Anaheim (AL) 4, San Francisco (NL) 3
2001—Arizona (NL) 4, New York (AL) 3
1991—Minnesota (AL) 4, Atlanta (NL) 3
1987—Minnesota (AL) 4, St. Louis (NL) 3
1986—New York (NL) 4, Boston (AL) 3
1985—Kansas City (AL) 4, St. Louis (NL) 3-x
1982—St. Louis (NL) 4, Milwaukee (AL) 3
1979—Pittsburgh (NL) 4, Baltimore (AL) 3-x
1973—Oakland (AL) 4, New York (NL) 3
1968—Detroit (AL) 4, St. Louis (NL) 3-x
1958—New York (AL) 4, Milwaukee (NL) 3-x
1952—New York (AL) 4, Brooklyn (NL) 3
1946—St. Louis (NL) 4, Boston (AL) 3
1940—Cincinnati (NL) 4, Detroit (AL) 3
1934—St. Louis (NL) 4, Detroit 3
1926—St. Louis (NL) 4, New York (AL) 3
1925—Pittsburgh (NL) 4, Washington (AL) 3-x
1924—Washington (AL) 4, New York (NL) 3
1921—New York (NL) 5, New York (AL) 3
1903—Boston (AL) 5, Pittsburgh (NL) 3-x
Bats better wake up back home, and Kyle Lohse better be ready to do his best Jeff Suppan game 7 clutch start impression…
Also 1987 NLCS....
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
it's almost like
there was a time recently where the team had to win 2 in a row against a superior team to not get eliminated.
by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep! I'm not all that worried. We have a good shot to win game 6 with Jaime.
We’ll see. And hell, if they beat us, they’re worthy champions, we had a wonderful season, and I’ll be proud of that NL flag forever.
But, let’s just beat ’em anyway!
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and has others have said
If we go seven it’s basically a bullpen game where Lohse doesn’t get out of the 2nd if he’s not perfect. Then we begin the parade of relievers and that’s when finally we can decide if we won the Rasmus trade or not.
ha
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 25, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to rewrite the ninth inning please
Craig get hit, Albert and Holiday Walk, Berk reaches on a PB…
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
by Zubin on Oct 25, 2011 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, the Rangers were trying to give that away.
I am so depressed.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
how about in the 8th, rzep stops the ball
by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Or how any hit in the 5th, 6th or 7th
gets us 2 runs. Seriously, this one was atrocious
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i blame ryan franklin for showing up
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I am still steamed at that bunt Craig was told to do
in what was it… the 3rd inning when Furcal was on 2nd with no outs. It took the bat out of Albert’s hands and set up the Holliday double play. That just set the tone to a crushing defeat. I will never understand why they gave up an out there. Horrible!!!
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
by KYCards on Oct 25, 2011 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So I have a very exciting weekend planned
you better not fuck up my weekend cardinals.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
My niece turns 1 this Saturday
and they’re throwing a costume party. I hate dressing up so I intend to go as a baseball player and wear my Cardinals’ stuff. Don’t ruin this for me
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I'm dressing up, getting drunk, and trolling the streets of st. louis. It'll be much more fun screaming go crads!
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
I'm spending $50 to go to a charity event
But it’s all-you-can-drink, so I feel bad for taking money away from charity
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Ha, if you hold your liquor at all like I do,
charity is ripping you off. And I’m only half Asian. :P
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Girl please
I get CRUNK
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None of you have ever drank with me
Will azru did, I guess. Kind of.
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After a beer, I bet you do!
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Winner.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Why are you the way that you are
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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It's the Asian half
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
We're having a big Halloween costume party with lots of grad students and lots of little kids!
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
afterwards catch a free shuttle home in the windowless white van...
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 25, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if I have to dress up for halloween, I'm going as ash.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Pokemon?
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boomstick

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I found Star Trek costumes and I wanted to get one
But I don’t have anywhere to go, which is probably not surprising given that I want to get a Star Trek uni for my Halloween costume.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
True fact
A coworker has one of the chainsaws from Army of Darkness signed by Campbell.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
We have a huge backyard, there will be a fire pit... I love halloween.
Come on up to Columbia, VEB!
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
holy poop you've got way too much me-gunk in your head
Except my backyard isn’t huge
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 25, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, I miss Como!
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing baseball-wise to contribute here
but I’m sitting on my porch in Hawaii, watching the sunset over the mountains on a perfect night. I wish you were all here too, please just soak in the island-y goodness and take a deep breath of the air.
Ahhhhh… it feels good to be a Cardinal fan, and coming home for another swing at the title!
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 12:17 AM EDT reply actions
what's up with the tons of ibbs and bunts
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
same as always
just not working tonight
by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Well you see, Wash and TLR have this agreement
if you get a free baserunner, you give up an out as a thank you.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
I believe tha
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Today was a horrible day.
You ever have the kind of day where you want to snarl at everybody?
May Wednesday be better.
Also, can Fox PLEASE stop showing Nolan Ryan every at bat?
by mattisnotfrench on Oct 25, 2011 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
it was a good day until stupid mike napoli
by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd had a crappy day before the game.
The game just made it a lot worse.
by mattisnotfrench on Oct 25, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
i learned about infinite series and that was cool
and then i got 100% on 2 assignments that were handed back
and then the cardinals pooped in my mouth
by prophetjohn on Oct 25, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
god yes
me and my gf got into it bad … kinda not sure if we are going to break up or what.
Cards game…
a bunch of shit broken and dealing with it for months, sending things back…gettting them back still not fixed or getting new ones with other problems.
just other stuff.
Things have just seemed shitty lately and im pretty mentally drained. Nothing huge, like people dieing but fuck…I really hope we win this thing.
fuck I want a month vacation
lol
by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
also I hate Ryan and his ugly face...
im not sure why
by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
dude.
i am really sorry. that sucks.
my grandmother is slowly dying. so this week has sucked shit for me, too. i wanted a cardinals world series win, but maybe that’s a little bit selfish of me. we’ll see.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i wouldn't mind it as much
(which sounds terrible, i know) if her mind wasn’t going first.
it’s just the worst.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
:(
Keep going strong, man! It’ll all work out in the end! :)
by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I actually know exactly where you're coming from.
My grandmother suffered from progressive dementia the last… oh, seven or eight years. By the end, she recognized nobody, except occasionally grandpa. There were some very sweet moments there, but mostly it’s just gathering what strength you can from family, remembering her how she was, and waiting.
All the best.
oh wow.
yeah, this has only been about three years and i have every expectation she’ll be gone, unless she gets really good medical care, in the next year or so. she’s in a bad way.
i really can’t imagine going through this for the better part of a decade.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
it's like, life, you know?
why’s it got to end so slowly and painfully for? i know we’re so much better off than most everyone, and i know by any statistical measure the quality of life right now is the highest it’s ever been, but it all seems sort of silly when confronted with protracted pain. she’s in her eighties. modern society was crafted in such a way to allow her to live this long, and i’m thankful for that. but now, it’s hard to see the forest for the giant redwood of a tree that is her slow, undignified end. she made it all this way for what?
fuck.
i’d almost rather talk about the baseball game.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
thank you.
that was weird. i was really saddened by what he said, but laughed at the text. so it balanced out. i appreciate it.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
it's oddly.. i don't know. serious, i guess, but I like it.
Take care of what you can.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Not to make light of your situation, as I've been there,
but this is why I smoke, drink, and eat pork fat.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It's hard to know whether saying anything is better or not, but:
I presume (from the way you’re talking about it) she raised a loving family and passed on her values. Although life ends, and it rarely ends cleanly, but there is great dignity in those simple things.
The forest is still there, and I know only time lends perspective. But it’s still there, trust me.
Um, go Cardinals.
thanks a bunch.
this is helpful. i know what you say is true.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Yeah, my dad had Alzheimers, too
It was a slow, horrible process.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't imagine dealing with Alzheimers.
There (if I’m understanding right) there’s not necessarily physical degeneration at the same time, or not as rapid. My grandma had vascular dementia, which meant nervous system degeneration that left her mostly bedridden. It seems like it would be even harder with a loved one physically functional, but with their mind gone.
Anyway not the cheeriest topics, sigh.
Yeah, I work with older adults professionally
so I’m unfortunately all too familiar with dementia. My dad was pretty physically healthy right up until the end when he got aspiration pneumonia. He would still walk around, but he wasn’t verbal at all for the last couple years.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
ugh, thats awful
my grandmother went quick…
but my dad was maybe a year and a half of awful.
No one should have to go through any of that.
Heres hoping for the best
and good thoughts to you and your family
by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
almost a year
its just one of those things where we love eachother a lot but we just cant seem to get along
by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont know if there is such a thing as a little break
but yeah, ive thought a lot about it lately
by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I've seen it happen.
And I’ve seen it not happen. All you can do is be honest with each other, and see where life goes.
A man's low point in life has got
to coincide with taking dating advice from gdm
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I need an excedrin
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
fashion advice as well
viva la argyle!
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I have sideways diamond print dude pants on now
from a The Dude costume I wore successfully several years ago. I brandished white russians all night.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
makes sense to me. white russians are fucking delicious
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
they went over well
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
That sounds good!
My, how fast I forget my 24 hour hangover from the weekend.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually....not really
We got really trashed, watched Star Trek Voyager, and passed out, and then I was hungover the entire next day. Haha. Apparently I’m too old for that kind of thing.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Girl you crazy
Are you going to fink’s Halloween party?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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my costume is Henry VIII
I’m in the middle of procuring enough doll heads to fill a bag to carry over my shoulder.
Most of the rest is complete.
Still not a werewolf.
You should try to emulate Jonathan Rhys-Meyers.
He made Henry look goooood.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I approve!
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha
Would people get it, you think?
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
um... A few.
Plenty of English grad students will be there, but they’re all into theory, so I’m not sure if they’ve actually read any books.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
I love, love, love Vonnegut.
So, yes.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Kilgore Trout!
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
It goes along with my sig line, GDM
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Oooooh you should read more
and we can be friends on goodreads
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Reading is amazing.
Butterfly in the sky!
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I live in PA now, remember?
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
you're 27, you're not even close to being too old
that’s hilarious you watched Star Trek & passed out though. i used to do that all by myself
Balls
I used to never get hungover
and now it happens every. single. time. Once I hit my mid-20’s, it was over.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't agree with this whatsoever actually
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If you're fighting enough that you need a break, then you're probably not meant to be together
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what kind of circular logic is this?
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
nevermind
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh, I think a relationship is a choice.
It’s not meant to be…you choose to be in it or you choose not to be in it.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well of course
That’s just what came to my mind first instead of “not right for each other” but I think the former sounds gentler
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I gotcha.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
what kind of free will bullshit is this?
determinism all the way baby.
cough
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
wat
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ya
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
mmhmm
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Lineup wish list for Game 6 (yes, actually, in this order):
Holliday lf
Berkman rf
Pujols 1b
Craig cf
Freese 3b
Schumaker 2b
Molina c
Garcia p
Punto ss
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
Would you rather have Craig in center, while Jaime pounds grounders at the infield,
or Jay as an automatic out?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, I think you have to allow for the possibility of flyballs
that could be pretty crucial to determining the outcome…
That 1 flyball could be the difference… and you’re really replacing Jay with Schu in an obtuse way.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
That 1 plate appearance could be the difference just as easily...
it’s a specious argument.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure... but if you look at season numbers and all that good, hard evidence
the odds of Craig screwing the pooch in CF or Skip messing up a DP from 2B seem higher than the offensive upgrade from furcal/punto/jay to punto/skip/craig
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Also offense is worth far more than defense.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 25, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather be sure that fly balls to center
are automatic outs
BTW, Nate.
I love you a little bit.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
punto hasn't exactly been tearing the cover off the ball either
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
He's been roughly equal to or better than Furcal at the plate over the course of the season/playoffs
and is, according to UZR over the last 3 years, a better defender at short, but the key point I want to make is getting a position player hitting 9th and Holliday and Berkman in front of Albertus Magnus.
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, then we agree
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Glad you're not calling the shots...
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
He'd make better in game decisions than la russa
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Feel free to sub Dirty for Skip if you want.
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
So Direct TV is dropping a bunch of channels,
including FSMW. If I lose Gonzaga basketball this year I’m gonna go Wayne Brady on someone.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
we shall see
there’s always the threat but usually right before it happens a new contract is worked out.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
Dish went through the same thing with them last year at this time
it took about 6 weeks to get it straightened out
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm glad they aren't just caving.
If they cave, it means our rates go up.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
at least there's this
Mike Lowell on Motte striking out Andrus in the 8th: “It’s hard to hit 99mph, I don’t care who you are.”
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT reply actions
but a hit ain't one!
pitch me
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
So, yeah definitely broke something in my hand
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I just threw a hissy fit over a pillow.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
please remember that VEB is not qualified to advise you to seek medical attention.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
base of fifth metacarpal
“Boxers fracture”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Cut the hand off NOW.
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The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Done.
Now what do I do about the bleeding stump?
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just suck on the blood.
It will stop, evetually.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
God no!
Just had a similar thing to that done on my left hand. Hurts like fuck
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It's ok. I poured some lemon juice on it and drank a beer
while putting my sunglasses on.
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i went and yelled outside
Guy had his newborn out and the baby started crying. I’d feel bad but the guy is a cubs fan and the kid is destined to cry if he follows that path.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 12:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
With this being it for Carp
I would have liked to see Carp pitch the 8th until he got into trouble.
You could make the argument that a HR would have been ‘leaving him in too late’ however it goes against LaRussa’s ‘hero pitcher’ mentality. Carp must have been hurting or else LaRussa really did go into mental meltdown. It is hard to keep your wits when an 8-year old is doing cartwheels in the other dugout.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2011 12:28 AM EDT reply actions
I'm disappointed for clank! And the other VEBers who went tonight, and tonight only!
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Not if we win the next two
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Well I think it's going to sting until game 6
And if we don’t win the Series, it’s going to sting all offseason, even if it subsides during game 6 and potentially game 7
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 25, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
That was awful in kind of a healing way...
Like, well, that’s it – it’s over, and in spectacular, mind-blowing fashion… I didn’t even freak out that much, I just hung my head and said “go get ’em next year”
And here we are.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
I never noticed this before
But Joe Sheehan is unbearable
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I find him annoying
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super annoying....
I like listening to Rany whateverhisnameis, but you have to suffer through Sheehan too.
subscribe to his newsletter!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
....

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by Paulspike on Oct 25, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Probably doesn't.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to watch more baseball games before April.
Please win Wednesday, so that there will be more baseball. Please.
by Pegasus on Oct 25, 2011 12:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to have to agree with the generic cable rating.
Not Catwoman bad, but pretty bad.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
No way, man.
Dan Marino should definitely buy this car. Well, not this one, because I’m going to fuck this one up. But he should definitely buy one just like it.
I was a huge Michael Bay apologist before the Transformers movies. Now, not so much. I’ve walked out of three movies in my life, and the two of those I saw in theaters were two of them.
I, like Carp, don't give a fuck.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
who cares
maybe he is a piece of shit, we dont know
by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think he was calling himself a piece of shit
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
i thought he was yelling at himself.
but give that it’s carp, i have no idea and i wouldn’t put that past him.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
tourettes
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So I'm looking pretty good today
A white dress shirt under an argyle sweatshirt and dark jeans. With boat shoes.
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argyle sweatshirt? Really?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah man, like this. Except the dress shirt was white
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In this country, we call that a sweater, Rui
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh whatever, same thing
I’m a little drunk also
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o/
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
And you could stand yourself?
Or was it some out-of-body experience where you wanted to punch yourself every time you saw your reflection?
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Oh I'm sorry that I have a fashion sense
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Despite your questionable word usage there,
I like that look. Argyle sweaters are hot!
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not a V-neck, though, or else I would've worn a tie with it
But it’ll do
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argyle is horrid
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Completely false
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it's the worst fashion ever
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah?
What do you think good fashion is? Curious
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In no way does that answer my question
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well you like boat shoes and skinny ties so that is different than what my fashion is
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
...I'm aware of that
I’m just asking what you think looks good
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perhaps I thought it was a passing fad and it is out now
at work, I like haggar or other comfy slacks and a comfortable button up shirt, slightly unique but not too eye catching. tuck in for a more formal look. other than that jeans and t-shirts. I think fashion is pretty silly, but I have engaged in the judging of said fashion, so I suppose I am providing an opinion that is not as advanced on the topic as some opinions. my fashion is that I really don’t care about fashion, but I still try to find interesting prints on button up shirts, or perhaps a death metal t-shirt. perhaps I will blog my entire collection via photograph.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Good fashion depends on the person
He can’t answer your question.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I don’t really have one fashion. I wear lots of different things. but no argyle.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm asking what he thinks good fashion is
How is that unanswerable?
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What looks nice?
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good fashion
doesn’t matter. I’m just saying that the argyle thing is annoying aesthetically to me. I usually go for nondescript stuff I guess.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
You don't have to like argyle to have good fashion.
There are a lot of other patterns and styles to choose from. You don’t have to like every print that stylists wear. For example animal print is fashionable right now for women. I hate it, I don’t think that means I have poor fashion sense, I just don’t like one particular style.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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this is what I was trying to say
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i like argyle socks
because no one else really sees them. I would probably punch myself if I wore that sweater.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
argyle
can’t stand it never will
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Argyle is awesome!
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
that's because you know that it is atrocious
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
but that's just my opinion
and I’m being an asshole because I has sad
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
look at high fashion
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
it's like advanced or something
in a fashion sense.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
it's more important fashion
on the stage
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
which reminds me
as I was leaving Austin, I saw a billboard that read “Jean shorts are never okay”
and I thought of VEB and laughed
Still not a werewolf.
Man, I want a Halloween costumes where I can wear jorts
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That's not funny in KC!
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Or as a Kansan?
I saw SO MANY JORTS the two years I lived in Kansas.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, what kind of caramels are those? Is there a brand? I need to check ingredients against allergens.
My whole family is genetic junk. Except my wife. So… me and my kid.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
my mother is responsible for those
I mentioned I was making a card, and she volunteered her candy-making services. I thought she was joking, but it turned out she was serious.
What are the various allergies?
Still not a werewolf.
in other words,
clank enjoying baseball is among her highest priorities, oddly.
Also, she does this to encourage my weird art projects. Apparently physics and math aren’t good enough for her.
Still not a werewolf.
What the fuck is going on here
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Oh right.
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rui's mom made me "candy" too
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
clank missed the reply
by about as much as albert missed that pitch in the 9th
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Your reply stream seemed mislocated
maybe notsomuch
maybe just sleepy
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
I know there's heavy cream
but I can say with 87% surety there’s no gluten. I’ll email her and let you know.
Still not a werewolf.
she's had students with gluten allergies before
so she’ll know if there’s anything suspicious.
Still not a werewolf.
dress shirt under v-neck sweater is a good look.
all grown-up and (in rui’s case) married and shit. it works.
Here in
Merca, we call that a sweater.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Dude. I have 2 sweaters like that. You probably ought to burn anything in your wardrobe that looks like something I'd wear.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
by a fink on Oct 25, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
NOPE
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I was just telling my husband
that he should get some cardigans.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
My lucky cardigan is out of juju. I'm not sure how I can recharge it. I'll think of something.
Maybe I’ll wear it to the pet store and feed the turtles.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
I don't have the physique to pull off a cardigan, I don't think
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No. The opposite, actually
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and instead of looking like a handsome white guy
you looked like an androgynous asian.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah I got a bunch of compliments actually
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Good
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, I had the sleeves unbuttoned and rolled up
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argyle should be on everything
carry on brah
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I need to get a new winter coat though
Maybe a nice black one? Not quite overcoat length, but same material
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pea coat
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
peacoats are way to mainstream for mysterui
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
What do I do that is not mainstream
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well, unlike the rest of us,
your mom.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i thought you were a hipster?
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think I do anything that is hipster-related
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....

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twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
3/4 coats are the shit
and if you hurry, you can get last year’s stock on sale before the shopping season
That's probably too long
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if it's fitted right it should go to your knees
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's too long. If I wore a suit every day to work, totes
I don’t, though.
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5'10
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yeah, you're just above where i'd mandate 3/4 then.
get a well-fitted full, or if that’s not your thing, just get a coat you like.
average height, average build guys though, i will seriously yell at you about 3/4 coats.
I'm not opposed, certainly
I think they look nice. But I think they look a bit formal if you’re not wearing a suit
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This whole sub-thread should come with a big fat warning.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Of how to impress people? I guess
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I'm in college.
This is a place where dressing like a douche is revered by the way. I’m not too worried about how I look, fashion-wise.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Dressing nicely = dressing like a douche?
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for the most part, yes.
This is why I miss the nineties. Couldn’t miss with a pair of jeans and a flannel.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I do that pretty often too
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flannel, yeah!
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I miss the nineties for so many reasons.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
music was so good.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 25, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hell yeah
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I really miss the Spice Girls too
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How old are you, Rui?
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
that wasn't music.
You really have no idea. Music sucked, basically from about 74 till 91. And then, everything was awesome for about seven years or so.
It might have been the drugs though.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
I like 80's music
but in a “this is bad, but I’m still enjoying/nostalgic” kind of way.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
JESSIE WAS A FRIEND
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Late 80's were really good
Early Pixies, Nirvana.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I classify both of those in my ninetis genre.
I call it the formative years.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
God I hate the Wall
Animals was good though.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
My personal favorite Pink album
I gave it a full 3 repeats today at work… it’s just magical.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
It's held up to repeated listens better than Wish You Were Here or Meddle
I don’t think it’s one of their best albums though.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, not the best from a technical standpoint
It just is great listening for me… fits what I liked about them perfectly I guess.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Have you ever heard More?
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Give it a listen, I think it's definitely held up the best
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Youtubed a couple songs
I will have to get this. I dismissed their work they did for films because of my misconception that it was more like modern film soundtracks. Not the case it seems.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Yeah
There are some soundtrack songs, but there are also 8 or 9 full songs on the album. Check out some of their other soundtrack stuff, Zabriskie point has a great song called Country Song.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I was speaking with a wide brush.
For every Wall, there were a thousand Cindi Laupers
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
i must be the only veber who likes tom petty
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
running down a dream
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Love Petty.
I also prefer to not think of him as an eighties, or seventies for that matter, musician.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i like him
just saw him last year (or was it this?)
by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Impossible.
Because I like Tom Petty.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Exactly.
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by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Basically, I'm saying college doesn't have a really high standard for dressing nicely.
So dressing how I normally would ends up working out pretty well.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that's true
If you every want to stand out, though, start dressing really nicely.
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Yeah, definitely do that while you're there.
And then (I’m telling you) don’t be hesitant to switch to dressing like a grown-up when you’re out. Because, um, girls (or boys, but I’m assuming girls).
you go to mizzou right?
dressing nicely to class is a very easy, very effective way to impress girls
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Good place to ask I suppose:
But what should I be for Halloween that requires little resources?
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Zombie Steve Jobs
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this is what I am, but one-upped
put a single button on the front, maybe an apple logo on the back, and you’re an iDied. i’m infinitely entertained by that joke, FYI.
Not wearing make-up sorry
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Three-hole punch version of Gabe
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do you have a beard, y/n
would've.
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No I don't.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
A drunk guy
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
You won't get a straight answer on that.
It was probably a missed sign by McKay (my guess, given the evidence).
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
The never run in front of Pujols
Line of thought has now been replaced with you must run in front of Pujols
by Merry CRasmus on Oct 25, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
dgoold Derrick Goold
Pujols calls a hit and run then doesn’t swing. Motte is supposed to be warmed up; Lynn was. Welcome to Grapefruit League action #worldseries
2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
Bilingual Twitter
Really?
Pujols calls a hit and run?
This would explain so much
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 25, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
worst managed game ever
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that title pretty much sums it up
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Ionesco loves it
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
haha, "then things took a turn for the surreal"
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to go read about the russians invading europe
lets get them wednesday. go crads.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
Russian Rangers?
I prefer to think of this scenario as the Rangers being French, and the Cards being the northerly Russians. Do YOU know what happens when you invade Russia with winter approaching? Shit gets real.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Just read this on Twitter and laughed.
The Rangers take a 3-2 lead in the World Series. Or as George W Bush calls it, “Mission Accomplished.”
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
late night VEB has much lower standards than day thread VEB
more gifs without subject lines!!
by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Politics or no,
it’s freaking hilarious. We can appreciate that.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah.
i laughed too. i just like to say “/politics”. no worries.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i don't think you're wrong
it’s doubtful anyone’s going to get upset about a well placed “mission accomplished” joke, but then there’s the inevitable “where’s the line?” questions that pop up. probably best just to avoid it
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually agree with him
JeffPassan Jeff Passan
I’ve never left a clubhouse more confused. Conflicting stories, mixed-up calls, blown opportunities. The Cardinals go home an abject mess.
Meh.
Passan is great at telling a story, but his tweets don’t translate. Plus he’s young and his reputation gets to his head sometimes. Funny how baseball story lines can change from one game to the next…but ultimately, this team seems to respond well to being counted out. It should be an interesting finish.
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
but you got people to talk to you right?
thats whats really important
by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
#messyflight
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
why didn't you run onto the field and save tony from himself?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I was pissed
He embarrassed me in front of all of my new Rangers fans friends.
Still not a werewolf.
have you resorted to Junior Mints?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well at least some good came of it
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Some pretty delicious toppins on that mirite
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
we've decided you're not allowed to go see the cardinals in arlington anymore
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if it's just me
but it’s so weird to see so many of my StL Facebook acquaintances (i.e., people I haven’t talked to in some 7 years) with Torty and “Carp meme” (with the HA! in the middle) profile pictures. I really hope none of them are VEBers
i'm sure they went to the same high school.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
of course most of them did
I dunno, I guess it’s just me
by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
but seriously, VEB is just really viral
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's like the /b/ of the Cardinals
No, I’m not even joking. We talk about the most random bullshit and spawn Cardinal memes at the same time.
Am I too drunk right now?
by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't like loss #2, but it was at least comprehensible.
What the fuck did I witness tonight?
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
a giant cluster fuck
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it doesn't appear you will get any discussion here
its world series game 5 but all people are doing is talking about fashion… odd.
THIS IS WHAT WE DO
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
No offense, but you're new.
This is how we deal with shit.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
fair enough
there is a lot of weird shit that just happened though, i wanted to get some other perspectives on it but no one is talking about it
The hard-hitting analysis comes on the off day
Need more distance, fewer raw emotions
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
last thread we vented.
we’re on step 4 or 5 now.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Is this the step where we apologize to the people we've wronged in the past?
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
No.
Fuck those guys.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
which part is the wrestling?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we have to get enough olive oil first
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
We were talking about it.
Now we’re forgetting.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
or as we like to call it: drinking
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm too old for that.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I suppose we could all mourn the loss of a great Carpenter start
and a very winnable game, but we are engaging in group therapy right now.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
What happens when give a senial old bastard a ballclub to manage
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
it's past midnight.
if y’all want to post baby animals………………
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Craig's run didn't matter
Down by two in the ninth inning, the most infuriating part about Craig running on 3-2 with Albert up is that Craig’s run didn’t matter.
Yeah there was literally no reason to do it
Other than avoiding the DP I guess
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Yep. That was the whole of it. Albert doesn't swing and miss too often with 2 strikes. I guess I didn't hate it.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
but feliz is a strikeout pitcher. the question is if a groundball or stirkeout is more likely
i think strikeout is way more likely
I love pomegranate juyce.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
$$$ though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
this is more fun when you don't agree with me.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
thank you.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Not as expensive as those damne acai berries
also, not as annoying and pretentious sounding
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
in which case, no harm done.
I see it as protecting the tying run, risked against the chance of Pujols striking out. Which, conservatively, is 20%. I cannot mentally do the math of that being a good decision (which means it probably wasn’t) but whatever.
Yeah
But Albert’s been hitting the ball in the air lately.
by DeWitt4Torty on Oct 25, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Also we would not be talking about this if Albert didn't swing a Ball 4
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Just stopped by for a recap
And all I know is a shitload about olives…
by Iowa on Oct 25, 2011 1:04 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
And argyle sweaters!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
The funniest part
is that I inadvertently started the olive thing, and I HATE olives.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
guys... is clank unable to see us?
did he turn off auto-refresh?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I wish my sister had given me the WPA key so I could use my netbook
and have a riveting conversation with clankbot
Still not a werewolf.
Bro just go to Fangraphs
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i didn't mean to reply to you
but it doesn’ tmatter anyway since i’m the third person to make this goke
CLANK WE'RE HERE
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
omg this is how horror movies start.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
IT'S ONLY MIDNIGHT WEIRDOS
I even used my first emoticon.
c’mon c’mon I can’t stay up forever
I have to drive to Austin tomorrow
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
okay this straight stream of clank replies is depressing
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well, at least seeing what went down next time you open the thread will be mildly amusing to you,
if also a little depressing.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
It usually is.
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!!
by The Spanish Inquisition on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's you.
sorry
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I find this really funny
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
watch some futurama dude
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
now i'm scared for clank.
VEB is terrible at warning people about that guy hiding in the curtains!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
holy shit.
it’s like VEB is waging thermonuclear war on itself.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
the dude hasn't mounted the bomb yet.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I thought we've moved on rather well.
It’ll be the off season soon, and this is good practice.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I actually really love late night offseason VEB
Crazy shit
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
when RB doesn't delete it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Howdy
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I feel kind of bad for chuckling at your comments
How was game
by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
game was so much fun!
SO MUCH FUN. Yeah, it really really sucked that we lost, but I’m so glad I went.
Also, I befriended an evil wizard.
Still not a werewolf.
It can't be good
to follow in Sammy Sosa’s footsteps
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
that's good. Ticket prices plummeting already for game 6. I think I'm going to go.
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
Depends on money, weather, and health.
I don’t mind sitting in a cold, wet stadium, but I don’t like driving at night when it’s raining, and I’ll be driving home after the game (around 2 hours)
RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!
hope you already have a good wizard friend
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
What'd you get to eat?
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
What is wrong with you
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i bet it's delicious
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course I have
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I dunno, this was like 6 years ago
I didn’t mind it. They’re really bony
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
isn't this some kind of Pennsylvania thing
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Hey, I live there.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't know
I’m actually not that adventurous with food.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
no, i'm serious
I can’t remember which locality actually does specialize in making such a soup.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't doubt it.
They have a lot of local foods here with which I am not familiar (native Missourian, transplanted to PA).
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
This it?
http://dinersdrive-insanddives.blogspot.com/2011/03/soup-and-sandwiches-dv1108h.html
I live on the other side of the state; never heard of it…
by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
could be!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 25, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe betraying his trusting companion is Craigs slumpbuster...
you never know with these athletes
by jealousblues on Oct 25, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
so i am pumped for game 6
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Whooooooooooooo
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
you're not going are you
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Not unless Sig offers me tickets in the next 2 days
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i am very glad for the off day.
i can’t even imagine baseball tomorrow. i feel crushed. that game was so very winnable.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
on the other hand,
you’ll be AT the game. so have a lot of fun! here’s hoping for a win!
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
there should be some kind of in-stadium veb meet up for shots
do they have shots at busch? maybe it has to be a domestic beer meet up
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
tweet at me and i'll do a shot with you.
just we’ll be in completely separate places.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Hotme!
Pujols at home again!
The arch in the outfield!
Allen Craig pinch-hitting heroics!
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Copious amounts of rain!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 7:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And cold temperatures!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
yeah, me too
i’ll be sitting in class listening to some jackasses, myself included, give presentations about makeshift eyetrackers we built
So I sat next to the tallest guy in the world
and he had an eerie knack for calling things before they happened.
Before Moreland’s home run, he quietly said, “he’s going to hit a home run here.” After the home run I marveled, “WIZARDRY!” and he chuckled. He then went on to predict many other things, such as the inning for the Rangers tying the game, various strikeouts by both sides, Allen Craig getting caught stealing, the outcome of the game, etc.
Everything he said came to be, with exactness.
CLYDE BRUCKMAN’S BASEBALL DOPPELGANGER.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 25, 2011 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
better than sitting behind him
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 25, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
so basically you sat next to Dr. Who and didn't notice.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the beard threw me!
also, I hope this bat-signaled chalk into appearing to say, “it’s the Doctor, not Dr. Who!”
Still not a werewolf.
yes, I am really sleepy at this point
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You get so many points for the Clyde Bruckman reference.
SO MANY POINTS.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Oct 25, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I was talking with my Korean cohort about TLR bringing in Lynn to intentionally walk a batter
then pulling Lynn after the IBB, well he said the LG Twin’s manager did exactly the same thing earlier this year.
by Tuning in from Korea on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 AM EDT reply actions
But, Tony La Russa is the manager of the LG Twins
—Directed by M. Night. Shyamalan
by hr on Oct 25, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
On the plus side, TLR gave us a wonderful gif tonight
We can all post that double facepalm he did after Rzepczynski failed to come up with that grounder.
Y’know, after TLR comes back next season and continues to TLR his way around the late innings.
PS this is my first post; I’ve lurked here forever. Sorry it’s not in better circumstances.
This would be a good gif to have in our back pocket.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
I'm sorry, but I'll be the judge of your lurking prowess.
LOY.
Also, this search snafu is probably going to eff up my efforts.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
QUICK QUESTION WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MY MOM
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 25, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
very giving
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 25, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
very.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
this should be the litmus test for membership.
the only right answer is “mr. rui is a saint!”
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
oh god.
mrs.
that was not a tranny joke, i promise.
where’s bobo.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
uh...I know her child does something with soccer or something
…does that count?
by SAFairGame on Oct 25, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, buddy!
You’re my best friend! Let’s grab a beer!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
at least veb found out 2 of my pet peeves tonight
well, besides the obvious bad management. mcrib and argyle
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:36 AM EDT reply actions
I like mcribs so much I even like the fake mcribs you find at cafeterias
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
faux charbroil mm
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn I didn't even realize it at the time
Murphy’s ball was a tailor made double play ball if rzep lets it go by him. This was just one of those games where everything that could go wrong did go wrong. (insert Murphy’s law joke since it was Murphy batting here)
Cards win this series in 7, just to let you guys know.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 25, 2011 1:52 AM EDT reply actions
awesome!
stock tips for short selling?
(i’m not disagreeing with you or being snarky, btw, i just want to get rich)
Hedge well?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
what I thought since before the series anyway
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Can someone post the Picture of Berkman with the glove on his head that says something about a headress?
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
The NA-PO-LI chants are deafening in person
It’s amazing. It shakes the ballpark.
Still not a werewolf.
probably shakes the pitch f/x cameras
just saying… there are only 2 of them after all…
by parliamentlite on Oct 25, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, I like the Rangers fans. The ones I met were friendly and knowledgeable.
Still not a werewolf.
good night,
fellow tremblers in the world’s storm-troubled sphere.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
this is a good recording to sleep to
http://protman.bandcamp.com/album/siktoe-navajoe very soothing
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 2:03 AM EDT reply actions
is TLR really sticking with they couldn't hear me on the bullpen phone?
they’re all laughing at you Tony. they’re all laughing. we would be too if we weren’t crying
Balls
Which reminds me
I got into a weird discussion after the game with another Cardinals fan.
He was pissed at Lynn, saying he better learn to suck up his dead arm ‘cause he’s going to be a starter next year.
me: uhhhhhhhh
Still not a werewolf.
Watched this game at the bar w/ no audio
Just got home and was hoping that VEB could explain this game to me. VEB could not. We must look elsewhere for answers.
Time and again we see the reliance on a proven methodology... a methodology separate from human experience... built upon figures, not feelings... which encourages our dependence on the empirical world... a world with no room for ground-rule doubles... Inherited Runners Scored
In Summary:
1. RonWash and TLR made this quite possibly the worst-managed game in WS history. 2. Allen Craig might be slower than Torty. 3. We got 4 baserunners on in an inning and didn’t score. That is all. 4. For some reason we have yet to realize Neftali Feliz hasn’t heard of this thing called a “strike zone.” 5. TLR brought in a pitcher to only issue an intentional walk. 6. Supposedly there was some bullpen phone confusion.
Anything else?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 25, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Because they gave away what, 6 outs?
4 sac bunts and 2 caught stealings, IIRC.
It just doesn’t make sense to sac bunt that much. Not on this team, full of guys that strike out and are as slow as dirt, setting up a double play easily.
The bunts were all awful
The worst was the Craig bunt in the 3rd inning. Just completely indefensible. Then the pinch bunt by Theriot to set up Punto (by he way I know everyone loves his glove but my god, the guy just can’ freaking hit) and Furcal. Looking at the play by play of this game is so painful. The top of the 7th has to go down as one of the worst innings for managers in WS history.
To be fair to craig
Both of his CS were on 97+ mph fastballs. Not many guys are going to be able to beat that
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You know what does make it plausible that there was miscommunication with Motte not facing Napoli?
There aren’t really defined roles in your bullpen, from what I’ve seen in the postseason. For example, with the Giants, you know in the 8th its Romo or Lopez, not anyone else. But for STL, you never really know what TLR is up to with relievers, making it possible they heard “Lynn” and just warmed him up without asking questions. Just my .02
What's great about BABIP becoming mainstream is now the fan never actually has to admit his team flat-out lost.
<3 Kanani Madison
Even if it was...
That doesn’t mean he had to stick with Rzep.
Just have him check on runners until Motte is ready. Last time I checked, you were allowed to do that as much as you want – keep throwing to the base with the runner at it.
Granted, that doesn’t make that much sense with runners on 2nd and 3rd. But so what? It’s just killing time until the right guy warms up.
Game 6 tickets
Are like 230 right now, how much do you guys think they will be down to by wed afternoon?
Well shit
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
though i dont buy the whole bullpen thing
Someone made an interesting point and said perhaps larussa asked for motte for napoli and they thought he said mark. Tony usually calls Scrabble by his first name and I could see motte and mark sounding alike though I don’t know why you bring in Lynn to walk a guy, just let Scrabble do it.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 7:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
nm
Saw this morning Tony asked for both Scrabble and motte
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 7:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really because on Mike and Mike they thought he wanted Motte to pitch to Napoli.
I was asleep when the original stuff was happening so I don’t know.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
he did
He wanted Mark and Motte up – Mark was supposed to work around Napoli and then Motte would come in but that didn’t happen.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
So you mean he didn't...he wanted Mark to pitch to Napoli but not really pitch just throw the ball up there.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 25, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
FFS
I don’t know if you guys saw this little gem, but apparently not taking responsibility runs in the family.
from Devon Larussa’s Twitter:
I saw a crack head doing “The Wash” today. Coincidence? I think not…
The tweet was deleted and followed up with
I really truly did not mean to be offensive! It’s a phrase I use, meant as a joke. Please don’t be offended! Go Cards!!!
Lamer excuse: Tony’s bid to be the new Verizon spokesperson, or Devon’s saying whatever the hell she’s saying (I really can’t tell if she’s referring to all black people as crackheads or just managers who jump up and down, either way it looks bad).
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 8:10 AM EDT reply actions
Once again
Washington was buste with cocaine…I believe she is talking directly about him
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
obvious tweet is obvious
I’m being facetious. Her saying it’s a joke she uses looks really bad, because now instead of calling a manager a crackhead you look like you’re referring to all black people as crackheads. Not too mention the whole casting stones thing, Larussa DUI cough cough.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah yes
I see it now
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
By trying to make excuses
you make yourself look worse. Ah, the Larusa® way indeed!
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 25, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
You mean
The LaRussa Way®
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wish teams could pinch manage
It was obvious Tony didn’t have it last night. Get someone else in there.
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hey guys and girls
TONY SAC BUNTED WITH ALLEN CRAIG LAST NIGHT.
RAAAAAGGGGGEEEEE
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Good News
My father and I are going to game 6, a game pitched by Jaime Garcia. We have never been to a Jaime start in which he did not throw a gem.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=300822124
Game score: 87, batters faced after 9 IP: 28
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
We are the only two people here
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ITS TWO TO TWO
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 25, 2011 8:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Crazy Game
Wow, that was one crazy game. Since it involved the Cardinals, let an ex Cardinal say it best: There is one word in America that says it all, and that one word is, ‘You never know.’" – Joaquin Andujar
I believe when you say "youneverknow" you actually mean
“freaking stupidity”.
9 freaking walks and 2 freaking errors given to us.
There is a game scheduled for tomorrow
so there’s still a chance.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
it was a best of 7 series not best of 5
so there is still a chance.
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Oct 25, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
gotta win tomorrow
that’s about all I can say
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 25, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Shift-A
LaRussa has made it pretty damned difficult to take the Cards seriously. WTactualF?
Still rooting for you guys, but with slightly rolled eyes and a perceptible head shake.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
The title ‘Theatre of the Absurd’ is particular bad when it refers to the play that went on during a game. La Russa needs to get a reality check and realize that his crazed decisions are affecting more than himself; it affects the entire team and game.
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