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World Series Game 5: How Will Chris Carpenter Attack the Rangers?

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In Game 1 of the World Series the St. Louis Cardinals turned to their ace, Chris Carpenter, against a Texas Rangers club that was fresh off an offensive breakout against Justin Verlander and the Detroit Tigers in the ALCS. Carpenter threw well that cold and blustery night. When lifted for pinch-hitter Allen Craig his line was respectable:  6 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 SO. Before tonight's pivotal Game 5 start, I thought we might look more indepthly at how Carpenter attacked the Rangers lineup during Game 1.

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It is no secret that Chris Carpenter, a convert to Duncanism, throws an excellent sinker. To that primary weapon Carpenter has added a cut fastball that has largely supplanted the slider he threw earlier in his Cardinals tenure. Rounding out his arsenal is a hammer-like curveball and a seldom used changeup.

Making up 44.4% of his 2011 regular season offerings, the sinker is Carpenter's most-thrown pitch. The second-most throw pitch is his cutter, which Carp used 32.8% of the time this season. His curveball is thrown 20.3% of the time. This 2011 regular pitch selection is the baseline through which we will look at his Game 1 performance against the Rangers.

Last Wednesday Carpenter attacked Texas with sinkers in a staggering fashion. 57 of Carpenter's 87 total pitches (65.5%) were sinkers. 23 of the 87 (26.4%) were cut fastballs. Carpenter threw just 7 curveballs in the outing--meaning the deuce made up just 8% of his pitch total.

Carpenter and Yadi's pitch selection in Game 1 raises many questions in my head. Did he attack the Rangers with fastballs in Game 1 in anticipation of using the curveball more in his second start of the series? Did he hold back on throwing curveballs because of arm soreness? Is it simply better to attack the Texas lineup with sinkers and cutters? Did he have a particularly good feel for the sinker in Game 1? Did he throw fewer curveballs because of the perceived slickness of the baseballs that night?

The motivation behind Carpenter's Game 1 pitch selection is difficult to know. What we do know is that Carpenter went on the record as stating that the game plan does not change with the ballpark he is playing in.

[Y]ou don't pitch to a ballpark, you pitch to your game plan, and if you don't execute and get it up, they'll hit it out. That's the bottom line.

Tonight I am going to be very intrigued by how Carpenter approaches the Rangers hitters and what that may reveal about the game plan.

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hm... samsonite anyone?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 24, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

samsonite?

I was way off!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 24, 2011 1:21 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

samsonite?

I was way off!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 24, 2011 1:21 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

twice

in fact

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

new app issues

Slow to post comments

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 24, 2011 1:37 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Nope

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just lasted 11 seconds

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by tehzachatak on Oct 24, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

one more to green!

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 24, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is there a catch or something?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

you win a pony of you wait the full 2 mins

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You didn't see it?

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by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
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by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

appropros

DOOOOMED

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

saw it coming

Was going to post link to Futurama if you hadn’t.

FIRE EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Oct 24, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping for

Lots of sinkers, clearly audible cursing and sad Rangers fans in stupid Halloween attire

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by madding on Oct 24, 2011 1:15 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Let us hope

that the reason for so few curveballs in Game 1 is not elbow injury/discomfort related.

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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 24, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

warmer in Texas

can only imagine that will help no matter what the issue

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by tehzachatak on Oct 24, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

help the movement toward the plate, anyway

i suppose it also helps the movement the other way

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by tehzachatak on Oct 24, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

its all part of the plan

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The alarming number that I see:

Between Games 1, 2, and 4, we scored 4 runs in 3 games. 4 runs. In 3 games.

The explosion in Game 3 was awesome. But what’s happening outside that? Will we improve the second time around against these pitchers?

I think the Rangers will have better looks at Carp this time around – just hoping he’s able to use his curveball like a madman, since he didn’t in Game 1.

by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 24, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

absolutely.

by the same token, i’d think that wilson will intensely examine holland’s start last night and adjust his gameplan.

by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 24, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson might stand a better chance

if he pitches with his other hand.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn't that called The Stranger?

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by ldr on Oct 24, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seemed like an appropriate repost from a comment of mine back in the mixtape days.
Did you throw any four seamers tonight?
Carp……No, I didn’t throw one.
So you’re hitting 95 – 96 with your sinker
Carp….Ya.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   4 recs

Awesome

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just a 2 seamer

Joel Zumaya threw 101 mph “sinkers”

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 24, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strasburg averages 96 on his sinker

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jonny Venters is somewhere in that territory

Chien-Ming Wang sat 94 with his sinker in his prime, iirc

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatever happened to chien-ming wang?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 24, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, sure, ask the Asian guy.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Injuries, brah

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was with the Nats this year actually

He was pitching pretty damn well by the end of the year too.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 24, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep.

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 24, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ranger fan here

but I’m pretty sure Feliz only throws two-seamers.

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by e2drummer on Oct 24, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was going to say that he has a lot of ridiculous movement on his fastball

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gamesmanship?

I filmed a bullpen of his at the end of the season and I don’tt hink I saw a single 2-seamer.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Oct 24, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I don't know.

Brooks has him throwing 40 four seamers, and four sinkers. Carp said what I quoted in the post game.

It is what it is.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys, where can I find game score for pitchers?

I’m embroiled in an argument over which was better: Carp’s Game 5 NLDS start or Holland’s. In need of a hard stat.

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by dan on Oct 24, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Fangraphs, I think.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN has them.

Holland was an 84. Carp was also an 84. sorry :[

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 24, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where did you find that?

I couldn’t find it on fangraphs

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by dan on Oct 24, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woops

Just saw the “ESPN” part

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by dan on Oct 24, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i went to that game!

Beckett was good.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 24, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

FORTH, ZOMBIE CARDINALS! LONG LIVE THE MAFIA!

or Carp will luggage you

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Rumor on the Rangers board that Holland will come back and pitch Game 7 -- if there is a Game 7...

…they say he is a former bullpen guy who, as such, does not need the full four days of rest.

by RedAllOver on Oct 24, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Jokes on them

Carpenter and Garcia are going to shut the door on this thing.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 24, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see Carp getting some innings

but Garcia on zero days risk is a bold move.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've been Fritzed.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

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by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Request it from dan.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

download the new SBN app

its a feature.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless

Odds that he could duplicate his performance have to be nearly zero. That was an epic game for him; no chance he does it x2 against our line-up, and on short rest.

But I’m with you. Let’s do this thing in 6.

by Washoo on Oct 24, 2011 1:58 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised but I also find their logic suspect.

I doubt he was bouncing back from many 116-pitch outings as a reliever. Most were low-stress pitches but that is still a much larger number of pitches than what a reliever would throw.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was about to post a similar statement.

I’m doubting he’ll hit his spots like he did last night.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be game 7 of the ws

Any player that is a competitor will say they are good to go. More so when you shut down the opposing teams offense. He may not be as great but he will be ready to go

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 24, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll have Wainwirght and Shelby Miller, though.

And, just in case…

….

amaury cazana

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.
The St. Louis Cardinals have removed half their pitching staff due to mysterious ailments and replaced them in time for tonight’s Game 7.

“We’re not sure what happened, but everyone all of a sudden got hurt so we had to make some roster adjustments.”

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i had a panic attack

thanks for the blockquotes

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 24, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He may be "ready to go"

but it is a question of effectiveness.

According to Baseball-Reference.com, 43 postseason games between 2000 and 2010 were started by pitchers with three days’ rest. One caveat is that the data show rest only within the playoffs, so would not include starts such as Greinke’s and Carpenter’s because their three days were between the regular season and playoffs.

Still, the results are cause for pause. Those pitchers are 11-20 in the 43 games. They have a combined 5.05 ERA and averaged five innings per start.

This is why I am not that worried about facing Holland on three days’ rest if a Game 7 is played.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, that's one of the weirder SBN block quotes I've seen.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So an improvement over our current starting pitching?

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over Lohse? Maybe.

Over Carpenter and Garcia, I don’t think so.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

was jok

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

gud jok

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

another thing to note

is that when you are starting a pitcher on three days rest… You are doing it because they are the ace of your staff. So that high ERA stands out.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 24, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good

A guy prone to blowups on 3-days rest? Why not!?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 24, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love that

I have no doubt we’d get to him upon second viewing. There’s only one pitcher in the MLB who can hold back this offense in two consecutive starts within a week, and, luckily for us, he’s on the other Texas team.

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by dan on Oct 24, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

submitted without comment.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Did he say everything felt good?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't fuck with the colonel.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 24, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it a navy Cardinals jersey?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is. I have a Smoltz one.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you buy it on eBay last winter for $1.00?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought you didn't like jerseys designed like non-existent jerseys?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the regular t-shirt design.

We don’t have red jerseys either, but everyone wears red t-shirt jerseys.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wish they made more white sherseys

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

and since we're on the subject and since i know everyone is not sick of hearing about it

i have solved the men’s small dilemma. this weekend i learned how to cut my t-shirts. i practiced on an old youth XL that used to look awful on me and now looks awesome.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

scoop neck, side stitching

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

its kinda like

this

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just as I suspected

IHB is a 13 year old girl

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

should have labeled it NSFW

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

you would do this.

that girl is 14 tops.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

IS THIS JOKE THAT I AM THINKING ABOUT APPROPRIATE OR NOT

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

is the punchline

fang?

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

who carses? say it

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh my goodness didn't even notice that.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

.....what?

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that it was navy.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

colorblind kid over here!

color is not the first thing i notice.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally colorblind? Or just r/g?

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

r/g

though i hate the name of it, because i can totally see red and totally see green.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then what are you blind of?

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness

i have “Deuteranomaly”

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

jk

i have “Deuteranopia”

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

Deuter

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Heh heh

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

But you just said you can see red and see green

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can definitely see red.

i shouldn’t have said green. i can see certain shades of green but the brighter colors are troublesome. but i have the most trouble with blues/pinks/purples.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to be confused with Deuteronomanomaly

which leads to an inability to discern if clothes are made of a mixture of wool and linen

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 24, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that said Verlander at first

and then Collmenter
and then WTF, did this guy pick this shirt up from the garbage bin??

by hr on Oct 24, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we get badass Carp tonight

And close this thing out in 6. I don’t wanna have to see Lohse start game 7. If there is a 7th game, do we really put him out there? Hes been awful, I think I would rather see Westbrooke….any thoughts on this? Sorry if its been discussed.

by mick311 on Oct 24, 2011 2:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Empty the cupboard

Tell Lohse he only has to go 3 and see where that takes you.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 24, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll just have to

cross that bridge when we get to it. Who knows who will pitch how many innings in Games 5 and 6 and if there will even be a Game 7. Start Lynn, Lohse, Westbrook, or Jackson. Even Carp for a couple on two days rest. TLR is likely to pinch hit for the pitcher’s spot each at bat. The starter may get hit for in the bottom of the second or third.

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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 24, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect answer.

I can’t imagine Tony not doing this.

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by pattimagee on Oct 24, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Bullpen can probably go the rest of the way.

by Stanley1 on Oct 24, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooooh, extra innings!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should have said, every pitcher toes the mound

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by dan on Oct 24, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmmm

Kinky

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120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
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by VolsnCards5 on Oct 24, 2011 6:15 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

CCDGAFAG7

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 24, 2011 2:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hey fritz.....

I used your pizza dough recipe that you posted last week. Good stuff.

I made an itallian sausage, pepperoni, canadian bacon, bacon, mushroom, garlic and Gorgonzola pie. Awesome.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Very nice. I think I forgot to list cornmeal in it, though.

I add a small handful of cornmeal to the dough, too.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You sandbagging son of a bitch

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't put it in the dough, just on the surface to work it.

I’ll try it next time. The piss poor thing about it, my pizza stone snapped in half after i took it out of the oven.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be.

You could just line a rack with unglazed quarry tiles. Much cheaper and the same thing.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya, I set it on a second stone on the counter,

and snap. I should have just left it in the damn oven.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine broke a while back as well

I used to always leave my pizza stone in there as well. Until mine cracked as well. That was mostly my fault though. I set it in the sink so it wouldn’t be taking up space on the counter and it got some cold water poured on it and the rapid temperature change broke it.

Since then though, I’ve stepped away from the pizza stone anyway. I think I prefer the tray with holes in the bottom.

I might have to go back and dig up Fritz dough recipe though. I’m always disappointed in the quality of my pizza crusts. They seem to turn out much better if I just make them into calzones.

by dontEATnachos on Oct 24, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you have a good recipe for nachos?

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

My usual strategy

Cover a tray with tortilla chips, add a layer of shredded cheese, cover with another layer of tortilla chips, then cover with another layer of shredded cheese, then pour some Ortega taco sauce on them and maybe some jalapenos and throw it in the oven and set it to broil. In maybe a minute or two when the cheese is melted but not bubbling take it out.

It’ll probably end up as one giant nacho cheesy mess but who cares? It’s delicious.

by dontEATnachos on Oct 24, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man was that joke lost

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

But thanks! That actually sounds really good

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Needs more beef.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

You’ve got to keep it simple. I could make that in college with just a toaster oven (or even a microwave).

by dontEATnachos on Oct 24, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

eww.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

this man understands what nachos are about

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 24, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and tomatoes and black olives

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grocery stores in Columbia at least have started carrying cans of the white mexican restaurant cheese

You have to heat it up slowly and mix it with a bunch of water to get it to be the right consistency, but it’s the bomb diggity.

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by joker24 on Oct 24, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine sucks.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

they had some sort of farmhouse cheddar last time i was there

i almost cried when i tried it, it was so good.

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"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 24, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

umm... england?

it’s been awhile. maybe it was irish, actually. which also doesn’t narrow it down much.

damn, i’m going to have to go back and try all their cheese again and figure it out. it was white and about $15/lb. which I’m sure totally doesn’t help.

actually, it might have been this one. probably not as good as my mind’s tongue remembers..

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 24, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIGHT!

queso vs. nacho cheese sauce

by dontEATnachos on Oct 24, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch the end of riverrat's video above.

In this fight, the Queso would be John Cleese.

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by a fink on Oct 24, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

why not eat nachos? they are DELICIOUS

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, so do you make your pizza on a peel, and the put it on the stone?

I had a bitch of a time getting it from a cutting board (plastic type) onto the stone.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Euphemism?

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah she is

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lots of cornmeal helps me go from peel to pizza stone

Although I also often up with cornmeal burning on the bottom of the oven

by OCCardsFan on Oct 24, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here

The corn meal are like tiny ball bearings to smooth the slide from the peel to the stone. But even then I sometimes get basil flying off or the dough getting a bit uneven.

Being able to take my time on the tray is a bit better for me. Plus, I feel like the stone cooks the bottom too fast unless your crust is super thin. Really depends on the style of pizza.

The truth is, I’m never going to be able to make anything as good as those authentic style Neapolitan pizza places with their 800 degree wood-fired pizza ovens. So I’m always going to end up disappointed with my result.

by dontEATnachos on Oct 24, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grill it

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 24, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Live in an apartment

And I can’t get a real grill on the balcony. So I just have an electric one and it doesn’t hold the heat well enough to really get the temperatures I’d like … it kind of maxes out around 450-500.

by dontEATnachos on Oct 24, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually just assemble the pizza

on the stone itself. Started doing that when I tried to transfer one and I dropped it on the floor.

by dccardsfan1 on Oct 24, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't have an actual peel

so i just put it on a flat baking pan on parchment, then slide the parchment onto the stone. works slick

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 24, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

call me a non-american

(actually do, its my only sense of identity) but what is the difference between Canadian bacon and regular bacon?

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NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maple syrup and moose

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 24, 2011 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

canadian bacon is cured and smoked tenderloin, very lean, much like ham.

regular bacon is made from the belly.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate your expertise in this matter

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Canadian bacon is ham, basically

it’s like English bacon but thinner. I was told while in Ireland that if I wanted American-style bacon, I had to ask for it burnt.

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by nota bene on Oct 24, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

jowl bacon is where it's at.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guanciale is where it's at.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 24, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

pancetta.

Or any other cured Italian meat, for that matter.

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Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tempeh!

(not really. It sort of sucks. You guys win.)

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by a fink on Oct 24, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

This article on Ron Washington nails it

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/10/24/2510833/world-series-2011-ron-washington-texas-rangers

Ron Washington drives me nuts. I’m convinced he’s one of the better managers in the game, and it makes me feel like someone who doesn’t check Snopes.com before forwarding an e-mail.

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

did you know

Ron Washington was a sniper for the Navy Seals and has explicit tattoos all over his arms? That’s why he puts on his long sleeve cardigan before each game!

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by ldr on Oct 24, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

One time on a really bad acid trip, Ron and his friends were driving around town when they spotted a gnome on the side of the road

They obviously had to have it, so they picked it up and put it in the trunk of their car!!! When they got home, they stored their gnome in the closet and went to bed. The next morning they woke up and turned on the TV and there were amber alerts for a missing 6-year-old girl. When they inspected the closet for the gnome they found the night before, they found the missing girl!!!! They gave her $300 and told her to run home and not tell anyone.

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

fixed
One time on a really bad acid trip, Ron and his friends were driving around town when they spotted a gnome on the side of the road

They obviously had to have it, so they picked it up and put it in the trunk of their car!!! When they got home, they stored their gnome in the closet and went to bed. The next morning they woke up and turned on the TV and there were amber alerts for a missing 6-year-old girl. When they inspected the closet for the gnome they found the night before, they found the missing girl!!!! They gave her $300 and told her to run home and not tell anyone.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

seems legit

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ron Washington was killed after drinking coca cola while eating pop rocks.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

...
Ron Washington tried to kill himself one time, and he decided to go out in spectacular fashion. He tied himself to a boulder with a rope, drank a lethal quantity of poison, set himself on fire, and jumped off a cliff into a lake below. During his fall, he attempted to shoot himself in the head with a revolver, but the bullet severed the rope, freeing him from the boulder. When he hit the lake, the water put the flames out, and the impact of the fall, while not lethal, caused him to vomit up all the poison. He swam to shore and lived to tell about it.

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

another
Jackie Moore tells about the Texas Rangers manager, Ron Washington, who was dining out one night when a young high school lad came up to his table.

“Mr. Washington,” said the teen-age boy, “my name is Bernie Rosenberg. Would you please do me a favor?”

“What kind of a favor?” Washington asked.

“Well, I’m here with my girl and I want to make a good impression on her. I certainly would appreciate it if you would drop by my table and say “Hi, Bernie!”

“OK, kid, I’ll try,” said the manager, smiling.

A little later he dropped by the table and said “Hi, Bernie!”

The boy looked up at him and snapped, “Don’t bother me now, Wash. Can’t you see I’m busy?”

by matt man on Oct 24, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad

Behold the power of the blockquote

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was trying to find the differences and losing my mind

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

wait

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I can’t really remember any of Jaime’s individual starts, except for the Colorado one.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

His K:BB is identical at home and on the road

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=garcija02&year=2011&t=p

So I’m going to say no.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I was looking at the wrong table

His K:BB is higher on the road this year than at home!

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm on edge

best of 3 for the friggin World Series. I really hope there is no rainout, I have seen enough of Holland for a lifetime

by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel so bad right now

I had both Mike Napoli and Derek Holland on my fantasy team and now they’re the heroes of Game 4. I thought AL picks would be safe because we’d never play them, but what do you know…

by hr on Oct 24, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

On Mr. Holland's Opus
“I wanted to show I belong here. I wanted to make a name for myself.”

I’m glad there’s a douchey quote like this to justify my disdain for Derek Holland and his baneful mustache.

Yes, I know this is not the whole quote and this might be considered quote mining, but screw that guy. He pitched too well for me to show him any respect.

by YepYouGuessedIt...CardinalRed on Oct 24, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

What is even remotely douchey about that quote?

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was the mustache talking.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

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by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pride and aspiration are douchey

Haven’t you heard?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

its hard to determine douche-y-ness from words alone

if they were said in a douche-y way, then…

i don’t know, it’s hard to contrue this quote in that way. If he’d said

“Goddamn, i’m Derek Holland and i whupped those shitty cardinals! Did you see what i did to Albert Pujols? BAM! Thats what! Now i’m going to go have some beers and pick up some hot gash with my Brah’s Ryan Braun and Brandon Phillips. Word to your mother!

Then maybe i could hate him some.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

or
I’m Derek Holland, bitch!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, actually, I might like him then.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's the hurt talking...

but I prefer the “hey-I’m-just trying-to-help-the-team-win” approach to the “hey-I-just-want-to-advertise-my-own-aweseomness” approach. I know it’s a reach, but I thought this was an appropriate venue for non-sensical venting? My mistake.

by YepYouGuessedIt...CardinalRed on Oct 24, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha I liked it when you said "He pitched too well for me to show him any respect."

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really need to get one of these...

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."

by MeSoHornsby on Oct 24, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

In baseball, there damn sure is

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not literally

That would be silly of me to say

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But figuratively

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

In that baseball is much more of an individual sport than other sports considered team sports

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Such as soccer

It is very possible that the collective is better than the individual parts

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I'm rambling so I'm just going to get back to work

Y HELO THAR COLUMBUS CREW

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

but that is also the reason why one day you can beat texas 16-7 and the next day you can lose 4-0

and that is what makes baseball so great.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

/TimKurkjianVoice

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 24, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

mind blown

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or mind bIown?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLND BIOWN

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is an i in 'pie' though

and meat is an anagram of team

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

but there is a "me" if you jumble the letters around

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, there's ellipses in the username

oh, you mean Holland

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

For interested parties, re: postseason revenue -

MLB has a formula that allows players 60% of gate in first 3 games for Division Series.

The same formula for the first 4 games of LCS and WS. Using Cardinals 2006 earnings – and assuming the profit margin is roughly the same – here is our playoff revenue thus far (in millions):

DS Game 3: 1.0
DS Game 4: 2.5
LCS Game 3: 1.4
LCS Game 4: 1.4
LCS Game 5: 3.8
WS Game 1: 2.0
WS Game 2: 2.0
WS Game 6: 5.0

Total: 19.1 million

Add another 5 if the series goes to Game 7.

More numbers on postseason revenue.

by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 24, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

2/3 of one year of Albert Pujols!

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

shit

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You see that it's impossible to justify a contract that big

The max I go is 7 years and $25 mil AAV. Anything bigger and I walk

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are those numbers right?

I don’t know, I’m delirious right now. Stupid playoffs. I have to scouting reports for three teams today!

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're babbling.

pujols is not going to take $25mm AAV. he will want more than ryan howard. its gonna take $27-28 i suspect.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn't negate my argument

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

if pujols wants 7 years/27mm AAV you walk?

i don’t.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know I can't critically think right now

Mindless stuff plz

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay

do you happen to know if the stl airport has free wi-fi?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

lolololololo

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just tether with your....

nevermind.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, don't think so

Another thing KC does better!

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

wtf

$7.95/day. i thought miami and dallas were the only ones still doing this ridiculous BS.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

it does not and it pisses me off to no end.

bunch of bullshit is what it is.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

rather than worry about albert

i think i will be happy that we have 20 million unexpected dollars for 2011. pending the cut dewitt takes.

by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 24, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Pujols will insist on getting more AAV than Ryan Howard

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem of getting paid to work,

is that you’re actually expected to work.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, that doesn't have to do with anything

It’s that right now, due to the incredibly stupid playoff format, we could play any of 3 opponents, so we have to scout all of them

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would match what Ryan Howard is going to make from 2014-2016

And be a few million less than what ARod makes over the next couple of years. I’m sure that Pujols will be looking for more than $25 million/year, at least for the first 3-5 years of the contract. Which means we will indeed be walking.

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by lightbulb on Oct 24, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing to sniff at

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 24, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can already answer the question asked by this article:

Chris Carpenter will attack the Rangers with things they can’t hit.

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by monkeysareblue on Oct 24, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Chris Carpenter will attack the Rangers

by making them not give a fuck about winning the game, thus allowing us to win.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 24, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Just think

In 2 or 3 days I can focus more of my attention on not caring about the NBA

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 24, 2011 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

There's always the MLS playoffs!

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

quit advertising yourself

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

6-1

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate you

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

rooney

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 24, 2011 6:24 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Or not

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 24, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would you make a joke about that terrible disease?

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by dan on Oct 24, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the Stove will be very Hot, my friends.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert Pujols was seen at Starbucks. We are working this story to determine what he ordered and which team is now the frontrunner because of his selection. Story at midnight.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

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by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

so....who's going to game 6?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Besides you ?

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 24, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

and 51,000 Texans

who may be getting their final opportunity to see AP in a Cardinal uniform in person.

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 24, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't seem to keep

Game 5 and Game 6 issues straight

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 24, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

me!

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be in the bleachers

Or in the Arch depending on who tells you where section 589 is

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 24, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

me

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 24, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

WHEN I'M A-PITCHING I SHOW MY STUFF AND HE'S SO STRUCK OUT

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

LET ME THROW ON, LIKE I JUST DON'T GIVE A F*CK.

LET ME THROW ON, GAME FIVE YOU KNOW THAT IT’S WON

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 24, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Correct play!

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

more questions

how long would it take to walk from union station to the game, and would it be a sketchy walk

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

15-ish minutes and no.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you.

it seems like the metro will probably be packed right after the game.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

She can stop at J Bucks!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's officially "Joe Bucks" now, at least according to in-stadium advertising

He’s the only J affiliated with it now, I guess.

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Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 24, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Less blabbing, more Googling

J. Buck’s is in Clayton, Joe Buck’s is downtown.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 24, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now "Joe Buck's."

It’s seems Joe bought everyone out.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

15 sounds a bit low

if this will be in pre- or post-game traffic and depending on how fast one walks. I did that walk with three high school girls one time (daughter and friends before you get the wrong idea) and it took us at least 20 minutes.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 24, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said 15-ish, not 15:00.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the frog says even less

I thought I walked at a brisk pace, but you guys must really book it.

(It is, however, pleasant walk with some nice buildings to look at on the way and usually lots of other fans for company.)

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 24, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

the colder it is outside, the faster we'll go.

i bought a red fleece scarf and red fleece gloves this weekend.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU DID IT WITH 3 HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS?!

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

u jealous

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell yes

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which high school did they go to?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 24, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

it takes me 12 minutes to walk from where I work to the staduim

I’m just a few blocks father than union station.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 24, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool. thanks, all.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like 9 days, 4 hours roughly.

http://maps.google.com/maps?rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS439US440&safe=active&q=1000+Ballpark+Way+Arlington,+TX+76011&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0×864e8770b07df919:0xa118cda7834a5ef5,1000+Ballpark+Way,Arlington,TX+76011&gl=us&ei=yNGlTtfzGKSusQLbvKiEBQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=2&ved=0CCoQ8gEwAQ

by jxmetal1 on Oct 24, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i got the point

and i likey

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by ldr on Oct 24, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOLOLOLOL

jonmorosi: Ron Washington sticking with what worked in Game 4 — Murphy, Napoli, Moreland hit 7-8-9. #Rangers @MLBONFOX

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Premise ridiculous

Who have two potato?

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nap hitting 8th is just fucking mind boggling.

Yes, I’d like for the best hitter on the team to get the least amount of at bats.

Thanks, Ron.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasjoke

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

because that's clearly what 'worked' about game 4

not Holland pitching the game of his life.

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NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't think that Carpenter will follow Jackson's lead and walk Murphy twice?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

When was the last time Carp walked 7 guys?

i would bet it was when he was still with the Jays

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NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a good question.

I doubt he has done that as a Cardinal.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go all the way back to 2000

As a Blue Jay, he walked 8. April 10th, 2000.
Walked 9 on August 16th, 1999 against Seattle.

Walked 6 as a Cardinal on May 9th 2006 against Colorado.

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by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that horrible Colorado game

There was that and a bad game vs Detroit that summer and outside of that he seemed invincible. I think attended his much better (understatement) game vs Detroit in the WS

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 24, 2011 7:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Colorado never happened

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

April 10, 2000 with Toronto

Last time he walked 7+ guys. 8 BBs against the Angels .

The most he’s ever walked in a game with the Cards is against Colorado on May 29, 2006 — 6 BBs.

by matt man on Oct 24, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hooray!

Thanks Wash.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 24, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody see any squirrels today?

I’m going out and not returning until I see some squirrels, hopefully happy, joyous undead squirrels.

by jjray on Oct 24, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw a squirrel at the zoo Saturday.

He sneaked in to the prairie dog area and stole some of their corn.

I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.

by Hootie Who on Oct 24, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heyman on Pujols

in today’s column:

One person who knows Pujols well suggested he could not envision the superstar leaving St. Louis for even $20 million more in total dollars. Pujols, who attended high school and community college in the Kansas City area, has his home and his foundation in St. Louis and perhaps most important of all, he has his legacy wrapped up in being a Cardinal. (He also wants to win and couldn’t reasonably make the case he’s going somewhere else to win more, as the Cardinals have more postseason wins than any National League club since he arrived.)

“If he stays, he’s Stan Musial, Bob Gibson, Lou Brock and Red Schoendienst all wrapped up in one,’’ one National League executive said, naming four other Cardinals icons.

This “National League executive” obviously knows little about St. Louis or Stan Musial. Pujols is a Cardinal great but he isn’t The Greatest Cardinal Of Them All.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

yet

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

pujols is staying in saint louis.

i would bet a four digit amount of money on it.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks to the power of internet gambling

You probably could actually bet a four digit amount of money on it.

by dontEATnachos on Oct 24, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i had a four digit amount of money.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks to the power of internet phishing scams

You could probably find a Nigerian prince who could hep you with that.

by dontEATnachos on Oct 24, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

If I had a four digit amount of money that I could just throw away, I’d take you up on that

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

$10.01 is four digits

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by dan on Oct 24, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is also four digits

Now, if you are gambling fingers… You have a gambling problem.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 24, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

or an excess of fingers

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can gamble excess fingers?


Interesting.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 24, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

no.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So,

up to $99.99? That’s my kind of four digit money, unfortunately.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 24, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Albert's making commericals in 40 years

Red

I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.

by Hootie Who on Oct 24, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

As someone with no appreciation for baseball history

I would not have noticed anything offensive about that comparison.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 24, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto, on both accounts really

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I think you have commented on how Pujols is not really all that likeable in your opinion. Musial is one of the most likeable players in baseball’s history. Also, I highly doubt Pujols will hit as well for as long as Musial did.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted to disagree on the "will hit as well for as long" point

But then I looked at wOBA (sorry for the large size):

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 24, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

damn. he's not even half way to stan's career

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a .410 wOBA at age 41 by the way

135 games, 505 plate appearances, slash stats of .330/.416/.508

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 24, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

wat

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS

You’re not top 11 WAR ever on accident

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 24, 2011 7:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

HFS

You’re not top 11 WAR ever on accident

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 24, 2011 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Underrated.

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by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the most underappreciated baseball players ever.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at his season-to-season stats is mesmerizing.

he was so good, for so long.

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by SheckieZx on Oct 24, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Musial was an incredible player.

I don’t think people understand how excellent he was at hitting and how long he was excellent at hitting, if I may repeat myself.

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by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

What exactly does the blue line represent on this graph?

It can’t be league average, because it’s comparing a bunch of seasons that are decades apart.

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by mattybobo on Oct 24, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was wondering the same thing

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

wOBA is adjusted for league, in a way

Not park adjusted though

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure

That line is the same as if you were only to look at Stan’s wOBA by age, and maybe’s the average wOBA for a player of that age in a given year.

I think when you compare players, it defaults to the average line of the first guy you take (so Stan’s in this case). Would seem to be meaningless…I guess.

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by lightbulb on Oct 24, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I love Albert

Even if he stays he’ll be the #3 Cardinal (which is is now) after Musial & Hornsby.

by DiscoJer on Oct 24, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aside from the fact that I discount massively the "greatness" of players from the old day

Pujols would pass Hornsby’s WAR as a Cardinal by next year if he stays—-and really we should count Hornsby’s WAR as a Cub as negative CardinalWAR.

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by joker24 on Oct 24, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the end of his career, he could be "The Greatest"

or at least tied or something.

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by SheckieZx on Oct 24, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know we're pretty good at comparing eras in baseball, or at least better than we used to be

But if Pujols has a full career comparable to Hornsby or Musial I wouldn’t have a problem with people saying that he’s the greatest Cardinal of all time, at least in on-the-field terms. Even if he falls short of our current forms of “comparable to the competition” grading of production I just think the issue is too complex for us to really say that Musial was “better” than Pujols. I can’t imagine baseball as a whole has gotten worse since those times, and I would be much more willing to believe it has gotten better. I would love to see Albert travel back in time to the 40s or 30s and see what he could do.

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by mattybobo on Oct 24, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball as a whole has gotten a fuckton better since even the 1980s

Go watch pitchers from the 80s and their stuff sucks, it’s a very visible difference. No one knew what S&C was, and the game showed.

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by joker24 on Oct 24, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strength and conditioning

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're like the birds on the bat.

It’s hard to say which one is my favorite, or which one is better. But the logo with two birds looks much better than the logo with one.

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by spants on Oct 24, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Ron Washington

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by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

we were all laughing about putting napoli 8th

he goes out and hits a 3-run bomb.

i think ron knows what he’s doing.

by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 24, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

but that means we can't mock Washington....

i refuse to believe it!

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the internet

we have the right to mock every and anyone. I’m pretty sure this the reason the thing was invented.

by jjray on Oct 24, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

meaningless is a little strong

still makes sense to have your best hitters at the top of the lineup

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 24, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over 162 games, sure.

But when we needed our best hitters up at the end of Game 2, we had a poop sandwich instead. It’s more important to have 8 (or 9) really good hitters than it does what order they’re in.

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by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

beat me to it.

in a game to game context, it is meaningless. full season you might squeeze out a handful of wins from a better lineup

get some runs

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 24, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i donno

The fact that their best hitter may receive one less PA in a world series is a pretty big fucking deal in my opinion.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 24, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hah true

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yes

But there are very few teams like that. So you want your best players to get the most ABs. Napoli only got 3 in Game 1, I believe

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

it doesn't make a huge difference but loo at game 1

we won by 1 run and the last batter of the game was Cruz with Napoli sitting on deck and only getting 3 PA’s because he’s hitting 7th instead of 3rd/4th.

by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wanted to break up the back-to-back LH hitters Murphy and Moreland.

At least that is the story we are getting here in the DFW area.

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by BigTex71 on Oct 24, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

but why is he down in the 7th/8th spots in the first place

by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good decision by Wash.

Holland has been inconsistent as hell. He was probably the most schizophrenic starter in MLB this year. Routinely follows 80 game score starts with complete duds. I’m not sure if he pitched back-to-back good games all year.

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by Toppins on Oct 24, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Washington just told us that Harrison is his Game 7 pitcher even if rain pushes Series back a day. Holland in pen. #Rangers #WorldSeries

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

4-0 marlins

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

ok, so

its a little different

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 24, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

StullySTL Brian Stull
We just had a Ryan Franklin sighting—here to cheer on his former teammates

Ugh—-Jinx.

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by cardsfan59 on Oct 24, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

That's sort of unnecessary

He’s a good guy and I’m sure they’re happy to see him

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's there as a guest of Mo.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was supposed to be a question...

“Rhodes will get a WS ring no matter who wins, right?”

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, we call it the Molina effect.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

BREAK GLASS IN CASE OF SKIP

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by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah i don't mind this.

skip’s defense is probably 80% as good as jay’s (with a better arm), and jay can’t hit shit right now. plus, PUNTO

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

A MUCH better arm

The throw in the 9th in game 2 that Albert should have caught was weak as shit from Jay

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was Rasmus-esque!!!!

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by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

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by jd is legend on Oct 24, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many deep fly balls that Jay caught over the last 2 has would Skip not have caught?

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'll find out tonight, no?

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

there it is

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

...no?

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

2

But both were meaningless

by guayzimi on Oct 24, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 by my non-scientific count at all

I also recall him playing too deep in game 3 on a ball that was a single and should have been caught though

by all4tookie on Oct 24, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd have guessed 3, too.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip is coming off a broken toe

I just don’t know how well he is running right now. As others have said. I guess we’ll find out tonight.

by jjray on Oct 24, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

the problem is skip against a lefty

after not playing for two weeks will likely be just as bad as jay at the plate.

the question is what is more likely- skip doesn’t get to a ball jay would have, or skip gets a hit or two that jay wouldn’t. seems like skip sucking in center is more likely.

by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right! If only Corey Patterson were still on the roster!

I kid! I kid!

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by SheckieZx on Oct 24, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it will be much, much worse.

Schumaker had one of the worse PAs of the playoffs in Game 2 against Feliz. It was so bad it has convinced me that he is playing decidedly hurt to the detriment of the team.

Schumaker’s platoon split against LHPs is much worse than Jay’s. In fact, Schumaker shouldn’t ever start against a lefty. Jay’s career split is nonexistent.

Schumaker vs. LHP in his career: .210/.281/.243/.524
Jay vs. LHP in his career: .296/.356/.377/.733

Add in how much better Jay is at defense and this is a poor decision on every level, IMO.

Schumaker’s Career UZR/150 (692 innings) in CF: -10.5
Jay’s Career UZR/150 in CF (765 innings): 4.4

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

only reason skip should start over Jay in center

is if Jay is hurt.

If jay is hurt, DL him and bring up chambers.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 24, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully he'll ground one down the RF line tonight for a double.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

BUT ONE OF THEM WAS A WALKOFF HOMERUN AGAINST TIM COLLINS ON 6/19

WITHOUT SCHUMAKER TAKING THAT PA AGAINST A LEFTY, WE WOULDN’T HAVE MADE THE PLAYOFFS!!!!

by all4tookie on Oct 24, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that's so gritty.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 24, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

dgoold Derrick Goold
TLR: “Jay is not himself. There’s no reason to bury him.”

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by cardsfan59 on Oct 24, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

There it is

Jon Jay has been abducted by space aliens. That’s a perfectly logical reason not to start him in CF.

by jjray on Oct 24, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

they say Jerryland is actually a spaceship...

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That must be where they are keeping

the real Jon Jay. Somebody get over and check it out.

by jjray on Oct 24, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

it'll take days to search that place

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

There’s no reason to start Skip.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 24, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except Tony makes decisions with his gut

and extremely small samples sizes. I’ll bet Skip faced some pitcher who resembles CJ Wilson in A ball and went 2 for 4 against the dude. His gut told Tony to go with it.

by jjray on Oct 24, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

called this yesterday

i dont even know how to feel about it, but i just figured tony would do it

by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't mind this one bit

Jay is struggling and he’s done the same thing with all his AB (or at least a good portion): weak chopper/grounder to the right side. Skip has a better arm than Jay and it’s not like it’s Ryan Theriot out in CF.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 24, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip is a terrible CF.

Also, Skip is the KING of the weak chopper/grounder to the right side.

I liked TLR better when he was playing our best players every night.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 24, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think playing Craig in CF and DHing Theriot might be a better idea.

A horrible idea, yes, but a better one than starting Skip Schumaker in CF against a left-handed starter.

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by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i actually like that. we're not going to see a lot of plays in center tonight.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nooo to Craig in center

That would be the worst of all scenarios IMO

by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip Schumaker is a career -10.5 UZR/150 in CF

and has hit .524 against left-handed pitchers. I think you’re underestimating how terrible Schumaker is in CF and at hitting lefties.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

.524 OPS*

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am with you on Shu, staying with Jay is the best call

but Craig in center field would be a disaster. I get the point your making but I would crap myself if they put Craig in center field for the most important game of the season.

by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR is putting a player worse than Craig in CF for the biggest game of the year.

Have you yet crapped your pants?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

prediction sure to be right

Skip goes 2-4 and makes one blunder in the field. Overall, an even performance

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by VolsnCards5 on Oct 24, 2011 7:26 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

carpenter adjusts

no balls hit to center field

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 24, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

why.

the difference between theriot v. skip hitting > difference between craig v. skip in CF

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

disagree

we don’t have enough info to know how good/bad Craig really is as a fielder but all the scouting reports are that he is a corner outfielder at best. I would put Holliday in center before I put Craig there.

by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the same as people who are clamoring for a Westbrook start.

We haven’t seen Skip/Westy suck in awhile so everyone stats to want them again while at the same time we see Jay/EJax or whoever struggle more recently so everyone hates them.

by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

anything hit to right-center is going to be a problem

how many innings do Craig & Skip have playing next to each other in the OF? Anything hit between them will be an adventure….

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by nota bene on Oct 24, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soooo...

Oswalt has been cut loose. How about a 2/18 and we tell Westy to compete with Lohse if he wants a rotation spot?

by guayzimi on Oct 24, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

good god yes.

but it would never happen.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think westbrook/lohse is going to be okay with that.

like rui said, we’d be eating one of their contracts (whether it was for another team or for the most expensive reliever of all time), and tony wouldn’t do that to a “proven vet.” though honestly, i’d trade away both of ’em for nothing if the cardinals could get someone to eat their salary.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Westbrook stunk this year...

I don’t think we want to just hand him a starting spot.

by guayzimi on Oct 24, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

trading either...

will require eating half of remaining year. not outside the realm of possibility if we could get roy for a reasonable price.

by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 24, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're both untradeable...

one would be the 5th starter, the other 6th.

by guayzimi on Oct 24, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

so are you just burning the 8.5?

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we burning or are we eating

This is important

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn man, don't burn all that in one sitting

That could last you a couple months.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 24, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

And just eat one of their contracts?

om nom nom

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's only $8.5M for Westbrook...

he’d be a good 6th starter. We’ll probably need that if Lynn becomes an important bullpen piece and KMac is non-tendered. Waino-Carp-Garcia-Oswalt-Lohse will involve some missed starts.

by guayzimi on Oct 24, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Word.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 24, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

DO IT

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 24, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you are remembering correctly

Replacing Westbrook or Lohse with Oswalt would almost make me cry tears of joy.

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by mattybobo on Oct 24, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should sign him now to start game 7.

Seems on the up and up.

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by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

DO IT

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 24, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Buehrle?

Isn’t he also a FA and a guy that has always wanted to be a Cardinal. If he is will to give us a discount to play here, he would prob be cheaper. I think he is younger than Roy too, right?

by mick311 on Oct 24, 2011 5:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We have like 8 SPs next year.

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by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wainwright, Carpenter, Garcia, Lohse, Westbrook, possibly Lynn, possibly Rzepczynski...

possibly Boggs, but not very likely. Maybe Dickson? Any other minor leaguers who are close enough who could at least do the replacement level thing as early as next year?

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by mattybobo on Oct 24, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever happens with K-Mac

and after a few months in Memphis, depends how aggressive they want to be with Shelby if a SP goes down.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't cry tears of joy but I would not mind it

Buehrle seems to do the same “solidly above average” thing every year.

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by mattybobo on Oct 24, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn't he injured or something?

I guess a 1 or 2 year deal wouldn’t hurt too bad, but anything over is a no

by hr on Oct 24, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

2011

pardon my format
ERA FIP xFIP WAR
lohse 3.39 3.67 4.04 2.5
oswalt 3.69 3.44 3.95 2.5

by _pistol_ on Oct 24, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd much rather Oswalt replace Westbrook

Also, the whole NTC thing.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 24, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

so i watched the series finale of friday night lights last night. (no spoilers)

anyway, i was just thinking its one of the more underrated shows of recent memory. and also that coach eric taylor is one of the best father/husband characters in a long time.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Or Graham Lubbock

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

true. but not exactly a role model for said family.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes. yes. and....yes.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sad the show didn't stick around longer.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

it inexplicably did not get the ratings.

the best kept secret ever. the show got canceled and then everyone realized how good it was.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

airing on friday nights probably didn't help much.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since their demographic was out watching Friday night high school football?

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know that current high school football players or their families were the real demographic of that show

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like that show.

The complete series DVD was on sale a couple of weeks ago. I thought about buying it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes. yes. and....yes.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got my tickets for Game 6

$632 later the wife and I will be making the drive starting tomorrow night to watch the Cardinals clinch a World Series.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 24, 2011 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

woohoo! where are you sitting?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

$632 FOR SRO!?!??!?!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's for 2 tickets

so $289 each plus stubhubs 10%

Seller hasn’t confirmed purchase yet, hope that dick doesn’t screw me over.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 24, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS ©

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wowzers.

RE-SIGN ALBERT PUJOLS!

by a fink on Oct 24, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet sassy molassy

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

says the lawyer

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thought of a possible game seven on a friday night...

I’m not going to be able to stand up for a few minutes.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 24, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol friday night game 7

i would quite likely just die.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOoooooo

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God

I took vacation time and have to drive 10 hours to see the game Wednesday. Would love to waste my time.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 24, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe it will stop by game time

they can have the tarp out there all day

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Furcal quote from Heyman
“Baseball is crazy. You never know what team will sign you. I wish I stay here,’’ Furcal said.

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by a fink on Oct 24, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

"St. Louis not like Latvia. Plenty of potato. Soldiers no raping daughter."

“Sometimes is very cold, but just wait. Weather will change.”

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 24, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In Latvia, no high school

So can’t make talk with St. Louisians

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish he stay here too.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 24, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR not commiting to Lohse FWIW

jaysonst Jayson Stark
Tony La Russa on his rotation: Only committing to Garcia in Game 6. Not naming anyone for Game 7, saying: “Then we’ll see where we are.”

by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Tony does not tempt the GOBs.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's basically three scenarios...

and these are all with the caveat that every single pitcher on the roster except jaime garcia would be told to “be ready” in the event of a game 7.

1. kyle lohse starts. he’d be on normal rest and this is more than likely the expected scenario, imo.

2. edwin jackson starts on three days rest/westbrook starts. this is kind of a WTF scenario, but tony could be crazy enough to do it.

3. game 6 gets rained out and game 7 is on friday. chris carpenter starts the game on 3 days rest. i guarantee this happens in this scenario.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

oh FFS

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that #1 is most likely

there was talk in the paper today of Lohse starting and only planning on him facing the Rangers’ lineup twice (if he lasted that long). They mentioned that he’s seem to do well until the 4th or 5th inning, so, he starts but is likely gone after 3 or 4 innings.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 24, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT (trying to keep my mind off the game): leftover spaghetti

i’ve heard a lot about spaghetti pancakes being a good leftover spaghetti meal. has anyone done this? i’ve been looking online for good leftover spaghetti recipes and haven’t found too much. the problem is, the noodles already have some sauce on them.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I usually eat my leftover spaghetti,

as spaghetti.

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

we have a ton left. i wanted to do something different.

geez you guys

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

you didn't really expect anything different

than the replies you got, did you?

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by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the hell is a spaghetti pancake

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

mix the noodles with egg. add garlic, onion, tomato, whatever. fry in butter.

voila

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, a frittata?

I have heard of that before. It’s perfectly yummy.

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by mattybobo on Oct 24, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually i did

people make their own pizza, their own hot sauce, their own beer. fink talks about how braising is an underrated cooking method. i reasonably expected someone to give me a good recipe for leftover spaghetti.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cooked sausage for pizza a week ago.

The cooked sausage has been in the fridge. Is it still safe to book in sauce and eat it?

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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this a joke

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really.

I’m actually wondering whether I should throw the cooked sausage out and figured, given your past questions, you would know.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh okay. well i wouldn't eat it. but its probably okay to eat.

this is the story of my life.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 24, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did mean "cook."

Thank you.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

A week's probably too long

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recommend this course of action.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

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by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoops. just read your op in more detail. This won't work since they already have sauce in them.

You can throw the whole mess in a casserole dish and put slices of fresh mozarella and basil leaves all over the top and bake it for a bit.

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by a fink on Oct 24, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the fuck

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. Put leftover spaghetti in microwave-safe bowl

2. Heat spaghetti until warm
3. ??
4. YOU EAT

by hr on Oct 24, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

profit?

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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 24, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's a

recipe that has gotten good reviews.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frittata time!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 25, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, how many of you just DGAF anymore?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not so much that I DGAF

but that I’ve been institutionalized – sort of like in Shawshank Redemption. I don’t know how I could function in society anymore if I wasn’t a Cardinals fan.

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by peppermartin on Oct 24, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh good

maybe we can get a Woooooooooooo out of the crowd.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

we've gotten everything a fanbase could possibly ask for and more out of this season, given the events of February to August

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 24, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is probably politics

but the WS has reportedly saved jobs and stuff.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Test

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Every time I get the "Your message can't be posted" box,

I instinctively log out and back in to make sure that the robot didn’t ban or warn me. Am I the only one?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 24, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. You are the only one he hates.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's been happening a lot today

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by mysterui on Oct 24, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

no.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully these guys

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 24, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Derek Holland *wishes*

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Oh!

So you spell it Holland Oates!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 24, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

mine cannot be the first rec....

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe if he grows that stache out for another 10 years

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 24, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously,

these guys would probably give us an awesome “Star Spangled Banner”

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 24, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't go for that

Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President

by peppermartin on Oct 24, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Say it isn't so

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 24, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

....

obligatory

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 24, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

but seriously, its Demi Lovato

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 24, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

she's got pretty good pipes

hopefully she doesn’t get nervous

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...Game 5.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 24, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

golly, how many flair gifs do you have

actually, I don’t want to know. save em for Game 6!!

by hr on Oct 24, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

no, I don’t think it did (at least not as of Saturday).
Sorry your evil plan never came to fruition :(

by hr on Oct 24, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh. I've been hoping I just filled something out wrong and that it would come back to me,

but I guess it was lost. OK. I’ll see what I can do about getting it to you again, though now with all the build-up, I think it won’t be as funny!

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by a fink on Oct 24, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

rationing is good.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every time I think about the game

or look at the time, my heart skips a beat. Being a baseball fan cannot be good for my health

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by Paulspike on Oct 24, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

BASED BALLS

I want it to start.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 24, 2011 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it a bad sign that I

probably look forward to the travel days more then the players. I mean my nerves are shot and I’m drinking like I’m 20 again.

by dccardsfan1 on Oct 24, 2011 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

just saw a squirrel

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120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 24, 2011 7:20 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

live or dead?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

alive

2 actually

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 24, 2011 7:24 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I have to apologize to VEB in general

I am loathe to admit
I broke fast — someone left some chocolate out, and I ate this apricot cream… seconds later was Boggs’s first pitch.

so. don’t fear the GOB. just don’t tempt them. T___T

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, wow. I facemarked. WTF, Y2S

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday Arthur Rhodes

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Hope you enjoy

using that AARP membership

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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 24, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

guess the actual age or be funny

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Older than Furcal

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

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by TBender on Oct 24, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

older than Bob Dole

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 24, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

58... i think the media would have made a big deal about it if he was older than Satchel Paige was the last time he pitched in the MLB.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 24, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He went to war with General Lee

2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
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by Paulspike on Oct 24, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

awww

http://twitpic.com/75att3
http://twitpic.com/75c07s

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

heading to Sedgwicks...

…to watch Game Five with a bunch of Cards Fans in ChiTown.

Come on down! $18 buckets! Let’s go Cards!

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 24, 2011 7:40 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Awww, I wish I was there!

Sounds fun!

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by sirensofsilence on Oct 24, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody else

wearing the same shirt they wore on Saturday night? C’mon lucky shirt!

by ckeiner on Oct 24, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

Not that I, um, ya know, believe in such silliness or anything.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO Jason Motte is teasing the crowd with a baseball

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

someone should tell him what happened before.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

#happyflight montage.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

"What happens on the flight stays on the flight."

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Carpenter has decreed
What happens on the flight, stays on the flight.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

was that Carp at the end?

what happens on the flight stays on the flight

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 24, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

screw it, i'm fanshotting this.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

fun facts

Player A vs. LHP: .210/.281/.243
Player B vs. LHP: .211/.269/.337

One of these players has one homerun against LHP in his career. The other is Adam Wainwright, who has 2, in roughly 28% of the PAs.

by all4tookie on Oct 24, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

A: Schumaker

B: Wainwright.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

sigh.

and to think at one point i was ambivalent about shu/jay.

by Wombat x on Oct 24, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE ONE THEY CALL WAINO

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 24, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game Thread

HERE

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 24, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

How many?

How many liners are going to be scorcched right at someone? D.GOOCH

by Donald Gooch on Oct 24, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone have a link for the game

"I quit because I didn't feel like the Detroit Lions had a chance to win. It just killed my enjoyment of the game."
-Barry Sanders

by DasBlues74 on Oct 24, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I went to a russian website someone posted on here a few days ago

I just dont remember the url

I’m stuck studying so it’d be huge if someone knew of a few sites i could find it on

"I quit because I didn't feel like the Detroit Lions had a chance to win. It just killed my enjoyment of the game."
-Barry Sanders

by DasBlues74 on Oct 24, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

FURKWHEELS!!!

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 24, 2011 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

internet audio link

for anyone trying to hassle their way thru:

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?s=la

or

http://tunein.com/radio/WS-St-Louis-Cardinals-at-Texas-Rangers-Oct-24-2011-p355307/

Eagerly waiting to hear the Cox to Wong to Pujols double play call.

by siddfynch on Oct 24, 2011 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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