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Albert Pujols: Of History and Fans

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Last night Albert Pujols went 5-for-6 with 6 RBIs. 'El Hombre' hit a 3 run home run in the 6th, a 2 run home run in the 7th and a solo home run in the 9th. On October 22, Albert Pujols cemented his place in baseball and Cardinal lore.

Superlatives seem inadequate at the moment. In last night's game, Albert transcended words like "great" and "excellent". People trying to describe the historic element of it miss the purely visceral joy of watching the game. People trying to describe the visceral aspect will miss the historic one.

Imagine yourself limited to pre-WWII vocabulary. Now describe the internet to me. Imagine how difficult it would be to describe something that's never been seen before in your lifetime with modern parlance. It requires you to develop a new set of descriptors and to illustrate those descriptors to develop the meaning behind them. Albert Pujols was simply too good to capture in written word last night. Let's try though.

Star-divide

Jayson Stark, ESPN:

How do we digest the magnitude of what we just witnessed? How do we make our brains process the unprecedented show that Pujols just unfurled in Game 3 of a World Series that might be his final act as a Cardinal?

Three home runs -- in a World Series game? Five hits -- in a World Series game? Six RBIs and 14 total bases -- in a World Series game?

Who does this? That's what we ask ourselves.

Tom Verducci, SI:

Then came Pujols, right there with the Babe and Reg-gie among October legends, but alone for an entire generation. Pujols wasn't even born when Jackson hit his three home runs.

Pujols did his best not to allow himself to admire what Jackson once called "the magnitude of me." He was gracious in praise of his teammates, humble in being asked to reflect on what he had just accomplished.

Matthew H. Leach, MLB.com:

After Allen Craig's strikeout, Pujols assaulted a 1-1 fastball from Alexi Ogando that was up and in, drilling it off the façade above the club in left field. The ball was estimated to have traveled 423 feet, but it's hard to think there wasn't some sort of conversion factor at play there -- it was one of the most impressive homers you're ever likely to see, at least somewhat reminiscent of his famous blast off Brad Lidge in 2005.

"It doesn't matter how far it goes," Pujols said. "At that time, we needed a score. I just went up there and looked for a good pitch to hit. He's a great pitcher but he left the ball up, and I put up my best swing of the night. I'm just glad we got some runs back after they scored three runs in that inning."

Joe Strauss, StL P-D:

Quite simply, no player has accomplished in one Series game what Pujols did Saturday night.

A player constantly defined by superlatives torched the Rangers bullpen for 13 of his World Series record 14 total bases and all six of his record-tying six RBIs. He became the second player in Series history to compile five hits in a game.

In one night he shook not only Game 3 but also more than 100 years of World Series history.

Anthony DiComo, MLB.com:

He heard that Pujols became just the third player in history to hit three home runs in a World Series game, joining Babe Ruth and Reggie Jackson with his performance in Game 3. He heard that Pujols tied a World Series record with five hits, matched another with six RBIs, eclipsed one with 14 total bases and set still another with hits in four consecutive innings.

"I've had about an hour to put it in perspective," Holliday said afterward. "It's pretty good."

Gene Wojciechowski, ESPN:

"I'm not amazed,'' said the Cards' Lance Berkman. "I've seen it too many times. He's just the greatest.''

Not amazed? Then Berkman needs a baseball history lesson because he's never seen this before.

Those 14 total bases? A World Series first.

Hits in four consecutive innings? A World Series record.

Those three dingers? Babe Ruth and Reggie Jackson are the only other players to have hit three home runs in a World Series game.

Hal Bodley, MLB.com:

Rangers manager Ron Washington said Pujols should be outlawed.

"He's a super player, no doubt about it. He certainly came to play tonight."

Bernie Miklasz, StL P-D:

This starry night — Oct. 22, 2011 — belonged to Albert Pujols. And we will always remember where we were, when we saw The Great Pujols rearrange baseball history by giving the most transcendent performance by a hitter in World Series history.

Can we be like Lance Berkman and accept the incredible as ordinary?

Should Albert be outlawed?

Did you catch the Ryan Theriot "It is what it is?" quote? Cause we got that last night also.

I have a brother who is 16 years my junior. He doesn't play baseball except to play catch when I come over. He doesn't watch cable TV at home so he sees the handful of games that he gets taken to or when he's at my home. He was too young (5 years old) to appreciate the magnitude of the 2006 World Series.

Despite all this, my little brother is a baseball fan. He calls me about games after checking the score on the internet. When I talk to him today, it won't be about history or Reggie Jackson or Babe Ruth. It won't be about Albert's place in the history books. It will be about how he loves to watch Albert play.

In the midst of all this greatness, it's still the little things that get me. Albert Pujols makes young boys love the game of baseball. Forget the three homeruns. Forget the records. Forget the history. Last night, we were all just little boys watching our favorite player do amazing things. Can you ask for anything more than that in October?

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The thing that worries me -

and I know it’s stupid – is that Albert has an insane world series and just drives his price up.

Which doesn’t stop me from sitting in front of the TV with my mouth open when he does stuff like this.

by sdrone on Oct 23, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Cardinals, it seems, have drawn the line.

If Pujols comes back, he will need to come much closer to the team’s asking price. Would a monster series drive his personal price up? Probably. But right now, he doesn’t have that series without a team around him that is mashing. So it’ll be on him to take a “paltry” $26 million payday for five years. And a World Series ring can’t hurt the chances of doing just that.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 23, 2011 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Craig's performance

In the postseason also complicates things. With Berkman coming back, where to play Craig? Letting Pujols go to Theo and the Cubs solves this problem.

by olddomination on Oct 23, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

flag'd

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Craig going 7/25 with a couple of bombs shouldn't sway anyone too much as to his value

And given the fragility of Holliday this year + Berkman a year older, I think he’d end up getting plenty of ABs no matter what.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget TLR

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 23, 2011 10:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Craig has been worth 2.5 war in 343 plate appearances...

more if you add in the postseason – this guy seems like a very good bet to be at least a four win player, and Pujols days of being worth 8+ wins are over. Am I crazy or is the difference between Pujols and Craig only 2-3 wins?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that is a crazy idea

but if you replace Pujols with Craig and only lose 2 wins in the process, who do you replace Craig with? It’s a trickle down effect. Berkman is in decline as well. The Cards would needs someone like Matt Adams to rise up out of the minor league system and put up 4 WAR for the team to not take a large step back if Albert left (or sign Prince Fielder). The safer bet would be to sign Prince Fielder.

by jjray on Oct 23, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're crazy.

I think you’re combining a pretty optimistic opinion of Craig, and pessimistic projection of Pujols. Neither one is crazy on its own, but the difference between them is 2-3 wins at the MINIMUM.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 23, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree on you evaluation of pujols

but i’d like to see what craig does with a more reasonable BABIP. 4 wins seems like his ceiling to me

by prophetjohn on Oct 23, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his career mark is around 320...

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

#totallypredictive

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the point may have been that it's not *super* high

but i don’t see any reason craig wouldn’t be league average. he’s not super fast, doesn’t have ridiculous plate discipline and doesn’t have a crazy high LD rate.

i’d expect him to be around .300

by prophetjohn on Oct 23, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Craig had the following BABIP numbers in the minors:

.277 (A-)
.339 (A+)
.267 (AA)
.329 (AA)
.353 (AAA)
.351 (AAA)
.290 (AAA)

by stlfan on Oct 23, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minor league BABIP numbers are nearly meaningless

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think the medium projections for Pujols and Craig are 6.5 WAR and 4 WAR respectively

That’s more like Craig’s 70% projection and Pujols’ 30%.

I’d say Pujols is a 7 WAR player next year and Craig is a 3 WAR player. And Craig would still be getting plenty of playing time (like he did this year), even if he wasn’t a “starter”. He’d spell Berkman and Jay plenty against lefties.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think GM's are that stupid to judge Albert just by his postseason stats

Sure, maybe his price would go up, but I can’t imagine by that much

by hr on Oct 23, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we should be ready for anything.

I mean, for all we know, Nolan Ryan will walk up, shake the mang’s hand, and say “Joe Strauss is not allowed on the premises.”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dear God!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 23, 2011 10:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don't forget Jeff Suppan.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think tha's why the Brewers fans are really being haters...

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahah

I do! It’d be even worse if Hendry was still in power in Chicago.

by sdrone on Oct 23, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I completely disagree

This negates his entire down year in my mind (from the perspective of the average GM). See, Beltran, Carlos.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it doesn't really take "GM's" judging

Really just takes one stupid GM to run the price through the roof. And I hear the Giants are looking for a RH first baseman…

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 23, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily stupid.

We tend to judge by market prices, but ultimately it comes down to subjective values — that’s what the market is based on. If a guy is more valuable to one team because they just need one more piece to really boost their playoff chances, it is 100% logical, even advisable, to go above “market price” for a guy.

Lots of times GMs go WAY above, and that sometimes is stupid, but going above market value is not automatically stupid.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 23, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or as Tim McCarver likes to call him...

“El Hambre!”

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

McCarver was particularly incoherent last night.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was pretty funny when he was trashing that hick who threw something at Holliday.

“WHO WOULD DO SUCH A THING?”

(Buck rambling on like a used car salesman, then getting interrupted by McCarver…)

“LIKE A CHILD!!!”

"The Mollusk" makes me want to rail LSD crystals off my friends' sternum. Rage."

by ICEYhawtSTUNNAZ on Oct 23, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

HISTORY'S GREATEST MONSTER

I hope they took that guy to the basement and gave him the Qaddafi…

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sheckie's girlfriend is amazed by Tim McCarver

He is her favorite part of the World Series.

“Wait a second… is he just making this up? He doesn’t know what he is talking, so he is really just making stuff up! ‘Strike’ is not a five letter word, but ‘shame’ sure is… but this guy wouldn’t know about that.”

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 23, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

then the 2nd homerun

You can hear him giving a deadpan “unbelievable”

by leefyg on Oct 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, cos men are going to be riding animals and using cattle prods and dressing like clowns and, , , ,

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was privy to a lecture from one of the guys involved with sports medicine around town, mostly the Rams

and he said his first job was working at a rodeo

he got to the part about seizures as a symptom of concussions. this one rodeo guy was on the ground, and had a history of concussions. he starts seizing and apparently the announcer said “Don’t worry, folks, he’s movin’!”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is

an homage to Hamilton Porter in the Sandlot.

by WyoCardsFan on Oct 23, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha es bueno

rec’d

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 23, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like I'm doing both

I’m watching and rooting for the here and now — Albert’s HR’s giving us a big lead — then later reflecting on the historical aspect of it…the fact that some of these things we’ve NEVER seen before, and some of them we’ve only seen on old highlight reels.

It’s fun talking to people who know how good he is, but aren’t Cardinals fans so they haven’t watched him day in and day out…you just nod your head and say something to the effect of “Yep, going on 11 years of this amazingness everyday.”

by You Just Got Oshie'd on Oct 23, 2011 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah I had a Brewer fan friend over watching the game last night because his wife's a Cardinals fan

After watching in amazement he was like "that had to be Pujols’s best game ever. I was like “wat?!” and I started explaining to him about Pujols’s greatness and the 3 lead taking homer game against the Cubs and the Easter 2006 game and everything and then I remembered just how good Albert it and now I really want him back

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 23, 2011 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yesterday was my nephews 9th birthday and he LOVES baseball and the Cardinals especially Pujols

I give him his present and get to talk to him about yesterday’s game today. It should be fun, and it won’t be about history.

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 23, 2011 9:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

TLR put Pujols in a position to succeed.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Oct 23, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR did an excellent job scouting and drafting Pujols

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

My aunt was right behind homeplate for Ozzie's Game 5 homerun.

Every time she talks about it, I get goosebumps. Not because I can picture myself there, not because it’s such a legendary moment, but because, after 26 years, I can still hear the sheer joy in her voice. I get chills at the way that she can recall minor details. I can still tell that when she thinks back on that moment, her heart tingles.

As Albert’s 3rd homerun soared towards the stands, I realized that I will tell future generations about last night. They won’t like the story because it was the greatest offensive performance in World Series history, but because they will know that for one night, when he was a grown man, Old Grandpa Sheckie was convinced that a sports player could be a hero.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 23, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions   4 recs

i want the interview with those Cards fans in the good seats

who jumped to their feet immediately

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was sitting in the farthest reaches of the upper deck

above 3B in Busch II that day and had an awesome view of it. A guy two seats over had on the radio during the game so I not only saw it happen but got to listen to the immortal call of Jack Buck in real time. Man, that was just an awesome baseball moment.

by jjray on Oct 23, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok good I'm posting

I thought I was banned when my screen refreshed to a blank white screen that said “alert: you are no longer allowed to post on this site” I was like what the hell did I do?!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 23, 2011 10:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Signal probably cut out

What with the meteor-shower like barrage of Pujols homers still in flight.

by Kind_Al on Oct 23, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

probalby got a warning

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great moments

Wife and I got in late and missed the first five innings. A bit disappointed to miss all the fun that got us to 8-3. In retrospect it was perfect because all I really saw was Albert last night. The whole evening for me was just Albert doing magical things. Albert’s first home run felt more like Jack Clark’s Game 6 home run. I still remember him doing the big loop over to the Cardinals dugout as he headed towards first. I love big home runs from guys who are supposed to hit home runs.

The other thing that struck me about Albert’s home runs last night was how beautiful each swing was. Each one was a perfect home run swing. None of the turmoil and anger of a Reggie Jackson swing, just perfect mechanics.

And finally, was it me, or did everyone know that he was going to hit that third home run?

I loved Joe Buck’s comment that Darren Oliver just entered the history books alongside Charlie Hough.

Just win

by The Duke on Oct 23, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I've got you beat on the reason I missed "innings" (all of them)

last night.

But I did catch Pujols’ last home run while listening on the radio driving home and even though it was Dan Schulman and Bobby Valentine as opposed to John Rooney and Mike Shannon, it was still pretty cool to hear.

The best part was right before the home run, Valentine said “Dan, this next pitch could be a pretty important one, so I’m just going to shut my mouth and let you handle it”. Not 10 seconds later, Pujols hits number 3 and keeping to his word, Valentine didn’t say a thing.

(interestingly enough, I “saw” Ozzie’s home run on the radio too. My mom had just picked me up from basketball practice or something in grade school and I asked to turn the game on. She turned it on literally 5 seconds before Ozzie hit the home run. It was pretty awesome.)

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 23, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta admit

when he stepped in the box for the third HR, I was thinking ’there’s no way they’ll give him anything near the plate.’ Because he just had that look stepping in… you know… that look he gets when you KNOW that he’s about to do something especially Pujolsian.

What I mean to say is that when he stepped in, my heart knew that he was going to do it, even though my head was screaming otherwise.

I just feel so privleged to be able to watch him play. We may never see another Ruth, but Albert may end up being the closest thing.

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 23, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howard Zinn and Harry Jaffa agree:

Albert Pujols is awesome.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 23, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorted.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 23, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

in honor of what we witnessed last night

a new sig. What do you think? Unfortunately, I think it’s maybe too long and distracting, plus I’m a little worried about changing up sigs mid-Series when we’ve had such a good post-season run

by mattyp on Oct 23, 2011 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

i'd remove the parenthicals

there’s something missing rhythmically

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

wait. he walked on three balls?

i don’t remember that one.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 23, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

After so many times watching the Lidgebreaking,

I never realized until now just how great Brenneman’s call was on that shot. He instantly knew the magnitude of what he just saw.

by bailorg on Oct 23, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only you had videos instead of the game logs

I really want to see the ground-out scoring from second again. The very definition of a man on a mission to score.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 23, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nicely done, Azru.

You’re such a sentimentalist!

by a fink on Oct 23, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

a nice quote round-up

he might rust!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I've seen people starting a conspiracy theory

about two controversial calls – The foul tip off Beltre’s foot that wasn’t called a foul tip, and the blown call at first – both by Kulpa, who’s from STL and an admitted Cardinals fan.

The call at first base was bullshit (though I really don’t think it cost them the game) however the foul tip off Beltre was only visible by the slight friction shown from the infrared cam, and if it takes an infrared cam to see it was a foul tip, there’s not much you can do about it.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 23, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

well I hope he's not that stupid.

and/or involved in some elaborate underworld extortion scheme.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

It seems the Cardinals can't win a game without there being some sort of controversy/other story

With the NLDS clincher it was Ryan Howard, with the NLCS it was the Brewers’ errors, in the WS it was the Beltre foul tip and the blown call at first. I’d just like to see them win a game and have that be the only story.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 23, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

in Albert's contract year? fat chance.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder who the Red Sox are going to hire for next year...

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

this just in! they've switched to chicken tenders!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

jmo for sure

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 23, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot squirrel power confounding Oswalt

but since the Rangers don’t have support the of the animal kingdom (TLR is a druid who can summon wild creatures), they resort to tossing wiffle balls. Squirrel >> Wiffle Ball

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 23, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

they do have that whole deer thing

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

"admitted"

Are you sure about this? I would be surprised if an umpire ever admitted being a fan of a team. I mean, if he grew up here and went to all the games, then obviously he’s a fan, but to come out and say it? If anything I would think a guy like that would go the opposite way in order to appear neutral.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say this

I’m just stating what I’ve heard other people say. I think it’s because he’s from STL and made two calls in their favor that people are running with this.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 23, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right...

I’m just wondering if he ever during his time as a pro umpire stated his fandom. Seems like a dumb thing to do…

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

gotta respect the way the Rangers handled that incident

some very sportsmanlike/professional quotes in there from Napoli, Washington, etc.

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 23, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's hard not to like this team. I wanted the Tigers, but I've gotta say this is being a good Series.

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by vico on Oct 23, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinsler: "The game is not played in slow motion."

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by vico on Oct 23, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That called third strike on Craig was horrible.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which Kinsler call?

Safe @ 2B stealing in the 9th in Game 2? He was safe though, right? Was there another close play with Kinsler and Kulpa? I agree with other that the Beltre call should be a non-issue. If that happened in any season other than 2012, nobody would have known it was a bad call because it took high tech infrared to even determine that the ball did in fact touch Beltre’s foot. How is an ump to see that with the naked eye in real time from 90 feet away? The Kulpa call @ 1B involving Holliday was brutal. Matt was out by two steps.

by jjray on Oct 23, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

but andrus was out

that was pretty important
much more so than holliday last night

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by sportsman on Oct 23, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was pretty obvious that was a foul ball

from the way the ball bounced, and the way beltre collapsed.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 23, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think the first base call was "bullshit."

It was a bad mistake, but, I think, an honest one, given where he was standing and what he saw (and what he apparently didn’t hear — the leather hitting the flesh). The Denkinger call — which he had made up his mind about what the call was before the play was completed — that was bullshit.

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by vico on Oct 23, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said last nite...

they simply got a style point deduction. If you make a clean throw it’s not a problem. Stop immitating the WS Tigers if you have a problem with it Rangers.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hear, hear

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by vico on Oct 23, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, actually

I have no problem with the Rangers imitating the 06 Tigers.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't either.

I’m just sayin

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you watch the replay, the ump's head is down;

He’s watching the bag, because he’s anticipating a force play, not a tag. Bad call, but you can see how it happens.

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by tom s. on Oct 23, 2011 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

I think that’s what happened, and it’s yet another reason that MLB needs to get replay figured out.

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by nota bene on Oct 23, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brew Crew Ball calls Pujols' game three

“the most overrated performance of all time.”

No, seriously.

They show some numbers…notably WPA…and have an interesting argument, but what’s the point of it, besides butthurt? Get over it, people. I have an inkling that if Fielder or Braun had done something similar they wouldn’t be running numbers like that.

by PeterStork670 on Oct 23, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

But this was our year

sobs

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know who's really butthurt?

Cincinnati. Stroll on over to RR and see for yourself.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 23, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

love the Josh Hancock car crash jokes.

really have a hard time tolerating those people. i like to think anyone saying shit like that here would get summarily banned.

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by tehzachatak on Oct 23, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

not when the mod joins in

Apparently there’s a line: Tornadoes cross that line, but joking about a pitcher dying in a car crash doesn’t. Gotta love the morality of RR.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 23, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok I've been sitting on this for awhile...

There’s a video on youtube about the Ohio Secession Plan by the guy who did the Cleveland tourism videos… at one point he says that Cincinnati has to be blown off the face of the earth. I feel like the man has a point.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's my favorite line too

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 23, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine is:

The flats look like a Scooby Doo ghost down.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 23, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are joking about that?

What on earth is wrong with people? They’re upset about baseball and are now joking about someone dying an actual case of life or death, unlike baseball. I don’t even know of that made sense; I am so upset right now I’m incoherent.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 23, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The world is full of insensitive a-holes

don’t waste your time or energy validating their point of view by letting them upset you

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by TomCat009 on Oct 23, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Use moar curse words

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. He's totally right. As far as game-changing brilliance, really only that first homer stands out.

I don’t care a whit, though. It was a brilliant and tremendously memorable game from our hombre.

As far as our friends at BCB Jr., they need something to talk about over there, and their team is already collectively gone fishing. It’s nothing I’m going to get worked up over, and, as you pointed out, it’s more or less right.

by a fink on Oct 23, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get the sentiment

that the HRs weren’t all that dramatic, especially after the first, since our team was mashing and eventually up by a wide margin. But, uh, it’s kind of hard not to be up by a lot when you have the best player in baseball mashing every he sees into the stratosphere. In other words, in most situations being up by a lot, with diminished suspense, is just a natural consequence of hitting three homeruns.

by mattyp on Oct 23, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought they were plenty dramatic

The first one put the game away, the second one said “good luck to you over the next four games” and the third one set the record. I liked how it became all about Albert after he had already won the game. All in all, I thought it was great

Just win

by The Duke on Oct 23, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We watched the Cardinals come back in the 9th inning

against Cincinatti down something like 6 or 7 runs not that long ago, right? Can someone refresh my memory of the specifics?

In any event, this is part of why I don’t like WPA or LI much. I prefer a neutral context for evaluating performances.

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by azruavatar on Oct 23, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you talking Danny Graves meltdown?

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 23, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

.......

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CIN/CIN200505020.shtml

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mabry and Edmonds got the big HRs, Sean Casey made the key error,

and Graves went the full Templeton on the way out of the game…

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

john mabry is who i remember

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...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 23, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

<3 u mabes

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 23, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

John Mabry loves you too

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by mattybobo on Oct 24, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Milwaukee is never going to get

over it. I think their franchise is now in Houston mode … a slow decline. They shot their load and its over for them.

by jjray on Oct 23, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Send them back to the AL.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have enough pitching to compete.

They’ve locked in Braun, Hart, and Weeks. The question is whether they will be able to find another power hitter to fill the offensive void left beyond by Fielder’s free agency. I think the Reds and Brewers will be in the running for the Central title next season.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see the Reds at all

Who gets better on that team? Maybe Bruce? Volquez? Arroyo?

Alonso hasn’t really mashed at any level in the minors, he’s not the Answer that they seem to make him out to be. They just aren’t that great of a team that had virtually the entire team overperform for a year.

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by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If I remember correctly, Cueto had a very lucky season.

What happens with Rolen’s health will affect things as well. To me it depends on whether Bruce can evolve into a top tier hitter, whether Volquez can improve his control, and how brutal Cueto’s luck evening out is.

I think they are a dark horse in the Central. Probably a long shot. But, if the Cardinals don’t have Pujols, the division is going to be a dog fight.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're going to do something dramatic this winter that will improve their chances...

if it isn’t trading Votto, then it will be trading youngsters for a pitcher.

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see a major trade taking place.

Jocketty could very well make a move or moves similar to those made by the Brewers last offseason.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

How long will they have that pitching?

The Brewers gutted their farm system to take their shot this season. Their farm is decimated. Contrast that with the Cards farm system. The Cards top 20 prospects is a sight to behold, especially the pitchers.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/10/19/2502022/st-louis-cardinals-top-20-prospects-for-2012

by jjray on Oct 23, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I crapped myself a little.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have all 5 starters back next year

Greinke-Gallardo-Marcum-Narveson-Wolf can definitely win a division title. They lose Fielder yeah, but he was getting paid 15.5M this year. Some of that gets eaten up with arb contracts, but they’re still going to be prety good.

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by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

marcum is not under contract for 2012, iirc.

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by tom s. on Oct 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

interesting, though I suppose that means they can expect to

Commit a lot more of a small payroll to marcum.

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by tom s. on Oct 23, 2011 4:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They've got massive raises all over the place...

I think Marcum, Weeks, Hart, Braun, and Gallardo are going to cost about $17M more next year.

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

2013 is when Marcum and Greinke leave...

they’ve got one more run left.

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

True but A.D.A.M. is returning and that probably swings the scales a bit too

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by TomCat009 on Oct 23, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was listening to Sheehan-Jazayerli podcast about this.

Sheehan was saying their whole team kind of had peak performances this year, position players, pitchers, all of them. Combine that with probably going without Prince, it might be hard just to compete in the central next year. They also could gain a lot just be adding a couple of below average players at SS and 3B, but it looks bad and they’re farm is empty.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 23, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just mean in 2012.

Projecting even that far ahead at this point in the season—pre-free agency—is very flawed.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

no kidding

I mean, they are losing Fielder, but will be getting draft picks back for him. Plus, if they have a bad year, they can flip some of their pitchers for draft picks.

Farm systems can be restocked in a few years. In 07&08 ours was considered pretty bad.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 23, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is true

but the Cards will also get two draft picks for Pujols if he leaves and one for Jackson. We are much better poised than the Brewers to contend going forward although I must grant the point that the Brewers are going to have a solid staff in 2012. The Cards will have an even better staff in 2012 than 2011. Wainwright pushes every other starter down a slot making the entire staff look that much better. Shelby Miller will be idling in AAA getting ready to make the jump to light speed with Carlos Martinez stashed in AA. Rosenthal in high A.

by jjray on Oct 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

forgot to mention

Tyrell Jenkins in low A. I’ve never seen the Cardinals system have starting pitching stacked liked this. Just awesome.

by jjray on Oct 23, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd imagine Carlos Martinez will start in High-A again

He struggled pretty mightily there this year. A dude that can touch 100 should not be walking A-ball hitters.

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by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If so, he won't be there long.

Martinez will be in AA sometime in 2012 absent injury. Knock on wood.

by jjray on Oct 23, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or pitching like he did in High-A last year...

He’s a high risk/reward guy.

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by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dotel potentially as well

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by TomCat009 on Oct 23, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think we are going to get a comp pic

on Dotel. We would have to decline his option (paying like $500k to do so) then offer him arb, then have him decline arb. I don’t see that scenario playing out. I think we may very well pick up his option.

by jjray on Oct 23, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

and somehow he ended up as a Type A

no way he’s going to decline arbitration. He wouldn’t be able to sign anywhere else.

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by scoot on Oct 23, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He might get an offer from a team with a protected pick

or a team like Oakland or LAA who value middle relief

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by TomCat009 on Oct 23, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't count on it by any measure but this isn't Heath Bell

who has been living in the same city for five years, he declined Arby last year when he had a better case(more saves) and he has played for 14 teams, if they went to him and asked him to decline he probably would. That said he is probably more valuable in a TLR pen than any other in MLB.

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by TomCat009 on Oct 23, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to keep Dotel

He’s a total Roogy, but most of the scary bats we face are RH anyway, and like other people said, TLR seems to know how to use him most effectively. He just looks dominant.

Ryan Braun will probably lock himself in his room and cry all day if Dotel stays in the NL Central.

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

and those eyes produce BIG tears

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by vico on Oct 23, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Brewers, yes, Reds, no

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been going back and forth about it with guayzimi over there

And I’ll answer his(?) latest comment here to avoid stepping a hornet’s nest at BCB. You’re absolutely right that individual performance drives media narrative, and it should. Pujols deserves the effusive praise he’s getting.

I think the complaints at BCB have a lot more to do with “Marcia, Marcia, Marcia” syndrome (read: butthurt) than anything else. Many of the folks there are so sick of reading and hearing the media praise the Cardinals that they’re going to react negatively against anything positive that’s said about the Cardinals at this point. The problem is that as much as it hurts to say it, the Cardinals deserve the praise. They’re in the middle of an incredible run, and Pujols just had the game of his life. It’s just a bit too much salt in the wound to handle gracefully right now.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 23, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

wpa is kind of a dumb stat...

it’s way too prominent for what it communicates…

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

WPA is one of my favorite stats to play with

I messed around with it for BCB for a couple of posts this year.

But whenever I use it, I’m pretty careful to give the caveat that it tells us almost nothing about a player’s actual ability, or the level of his performance. It’s a really fun stat in a lot of ways, but one you’ve got to use judiciously to avoid abusing.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 23, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely understand where Brewers fans are coming from.

If the Brewers had made the World Series I would have felt similarly. The Cardinals success over the last ten years has multiplied that affect for other fanbases. I say that not to be a douche and “rubbing your face in it” but to say that I can understand some of the frustration some fans are feeling, but it has to be worse than I can understand.

I’ve said it several times: if I wasn’t a die-hard fan of the Cardinals, I think the Cardinals would annoy me a lot.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly Would be the Case

if I were a fan of any NL Central Division team. But, on an objective scale, I figure more fans would be annoyed by the Phillies these days since they’ve been the most dominant team in “regular season”. For the record, I kinda like the Phillies, after the Cards and Nationals.

For the AL, I think the Yankees would be the most hateable team

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, and while that's completely understandable from Brewers fandom generally,

I was a little surprised to see it splashed up on the front page by a member of the masthead. I mean… really, one of the most prominent things going on in the world of the Brewers right now is cherry-picking stats to diminish a rival’s performance? Basically I’m not surprised or offended by the sentiment, but I am at least surprised by it’s elevation to that level.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, I like you, I like the Brewers, and I like my many Brewers friends from my time living up there,

but if some of the posters over at your blog are having a hard time swallowing this, I can’t help but be glad to see it. When a fan lets their competitive spirit turn into genuine hatred, well, they deserve to swallow all the misery the sporting-world can throw at them.

by a fink on Oct 23, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a fink,

the most even-keeled and understanding commenter we have, enjoying a fanbase’s misery. i just want to point this out.

it’s going to be interesting to see how this brewers-cardinals rivalry develops next year.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay.

Fair enough. I was just attempting to point out that if even you are enjoying the justice, I think that the animosity between these two fanbases is ridiculously high.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this.

With the Cubs being bad these days, I really don’t feel strongly about any Cardinals “rivalry” at all. It’s somebody different every year, or every three years.

(I’m aware of the arrogance that could be read into the last sentence there… but hey, the last 10-15 years have been what they’ve been)

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like you.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

But you're crazy.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 23, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You wouldn't be aware of it.

Than you wouldn’t be crazy. So. You must be. Crazy.

by hangingfromatree on Oct 23, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

(It's from Old School)

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 23, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're pretty cool.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 23, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

green'd

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by nota bene on Oct 23, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow fink...

Tell us how you really feel.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 23, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I sort of disagree

Only because I sure am enjoying how shitty the Reds have been this year. But that was more of a “they started it” thing with their fans.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That your saying it's a bad thing to have hatred towards other teams

At least I think that’s what your saying.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah. Yeah, more or less.

But if the Reds were in the world series right now, I don’t think you’d be obsessing about how the media is being too nice to that ’roid head Joey Votto (who is a bad teammate!) and their illiterate manager.

by a fink on Oct 23, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I probably wouldn't be thinking about baseball too much

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be all college football for me.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 23, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know its weird how little I care about college football

Consider how much everyone else around he does. I do wanna go to a game though – but it’s hard to get tickets if you’re a freshman.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Know Fan of Both Brewers and Cards

I actually know one guy who likes both the Brewers and Cards — someone from work who I see occasionally. He grew up in Milwaukee but liked the Cards starting during the mid-60’s. Remembers Gibson, Flood, and the rest.

Likes the Brewers but likes the Cards better. Well, he was happy this year (and in 1982)

Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.

by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I really don't care

Just like the Reds, the Brewers will fade into irrelevancy while we win the World Series this year and win the division 7 times out of the next 10.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would not Surprise me

That wouldn’t surprise me. But better them than the Pirates.

Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.

by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ALBERT PUJOLS. APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD.

previously

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

yuppers

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly that look was priceless

‘cause I’ve got kids and I know exactly what that means.

by sdrone on Oct 23, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

poopy pants?

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The President Bush connection

Pujol’s homeruns last night reminded me of the Lidge HR against Houston (especially Albert’s first blast to left last night). President George HW Bush and Barbara were in the first row standing, clapping, as Albert hit the massive blast in Houston that night. This night in Arlington, there were President George W Bush and Laura. … I actually feel for Nolan Ryan (even thought he called the Rangers in 6).

by jjray on Oct 23, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, he had to sit between them.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was mostly because there might've been a daughter to her other side

maybe they wanted some girl time to chitchat.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was in one of the luxury boxes

I think he was a special assistant, or something like that, for the Astros at the time.

by bailorg on Oct 23, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Nolan went home and watched his cage match vs. Ventura to console

himself. Ryan is one bad M%^*cker. I really like him, and I am so glad his group got the Rangers.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 23, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ron Washington walked Miguel Cabrera with 1 out, 8th inning, tied game and no one on

I predict he walks Pujols in a clearly idiotic situation and the Cardinals win because of it.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness his pitchers decided to walk Craig to get to Pujols...

which had good idea written all over it.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Walking either of those guys is disaster...

considering we have Holliday, Berkman, and Freese up. This is a better lineup than MV3.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

kind of 3 Musketeerish

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a beautiful thing when everyone's peaking together.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

let's just take our towels

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

People don't seem to realize how historically good the Cardinals offense is...

Best NL Team OPS+ since 1945:

1. 1976 Cincinnati Reds (120)
2. 2000 San Francisco Giants (115)
3. 1953 Brooklyn Dodgers (114)
4. 2011 St. Louis Cardinals (113)

Fourth best in the last 66 years of NL play by OPS+.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Wow. That's amazing.

Considering what the DH does for us, is this the best offense an NL team has ever put together in an AL park since the DH? Who did the Reds run out at DH? Ah, Dan Driessen. Yeah, that team was amazing.

I would certainly guess this is the 2nd best NL lineup to show up in an AL park since the DH was instituted.

by a fink on Oct 23, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't make me post portraits.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

+Shelby Miller

2012 or 2013 barring off the field arrest.

by chriswallace on Oct 23, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rosenthal is not a PP

He’s a dreamboat who pitches

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

apu saved his best for last

lots of people hit last night
for a while, lots of people didn’t

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 23, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cracked knee cap, appendicitis, wrist fracture, tommy john, etc.

But every team goes through them, maybe not to the same extent.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 23, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I blame ryan theriot.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 23, 2011 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Theriot

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wash is a really bad in game manager...

I wonder if the FO could go to him, praise his strong points, and then ask him to do things differently wrt strategy… Would he get all huffy? I know Daniels understands that he makes a lot of bad moves.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

You'd have to think there's some friction

He’s had a few moves that are just comically indefensible in the postseason.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

the non-moves have been surprising.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

His defense is that he plays in the AL.

Apparently AL managers don’t actually have to do anything special. They just put in new pitchers when the current one gets hammered.

by chriswallace on Oct 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I laughed.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then I did a horrible job

cause I need a lot more of you to laugh if I’m going anywhere in the comedy game.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was hilarious.

I rec’d it.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i havent been letting myself get too excited

about this series yet, but after last night it’s real hard. I lived outside Arlington for 2 and half ish years and went to some ranger games. there is a reason it was hard to get pitchers there for awhile. When orel was the pitching coach he started to change things, then Nolan took over.

however no lead feels safe there kind of like MIL.

I

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed, since I've learned this year that

1. This team never does things the easy way, e.g. swept by Dodgers, losing to Cubs and ‘Stros late
2. I fear the GOB’s retribution too much. Once hubris creeps in the furies are merciless. c.f. Brewers.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 23, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the 3rd HR will stick in my mind the most

With the foulball before the HR hitting that Ranger fan in the elbow. Than Boom!

by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 23, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I was talking to my buddy on the phone at the time

I just started laughing…

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same here, because I called it.

Was actually kind of glad Craig struck out because I had a feeling.

“Watch this, If he get a fastball inside here its going out”

Two pitches later… BOOOM!

by El Hombre on Oct 23, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, cause that was just destroyed

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't worry everyone!

Leitch says Albert now has his Moment!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

How quickly they forget.

"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.

by StanTheManFan on Oct 23, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, the moment meme coming back to bite us in the ass again

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adron cracks me up
The rookie outfielder Adron Chambers actually went up to Pujols in the dugout before he batted in the ninth and told him, “You might as well go up there and hit another one.” Pujols didn’t say anything. He just looked at him and gave a little laugh.

- S.I.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

David Freese fell back to second place behind Beltran in all-time career postseason slugging % after his 2 for 4 night...

gotta love SSS.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

are you just speaking in gifs today

?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

OMG.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Great One

A name my brother and I have been calling Albert for years now.

Do we now need to start calling him “The Greatest One”?

From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.

by icardinal on Oct 23, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

rec'd extremely hard.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 23, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness I'm sure I'd be awesome at hockey if I never bothered playing defense

I’ve always thought Mario was better. I have no hard stats to defend this.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

The single most impressive season in sports history
The Penguins started the 1992–93 season well, and Lemieux set a franchise record with at least one goal in twelve consecutive games, from October 6 to November 1. He was on pace to challenge Gretzky’s records of 92 goals in one season (1981–82) and 215 points in one season (1985–86), until January 12, 1993, when he made the shocking announcement that he had been diagnosed with Hodgkin’s lymphoma. He was forced to undergo energy-draining aggressive radiation treatments, leaving his career and possibly his survival in doubt. He missed two months of play, and without him, the Penguins struggled. When he returned, he was 12 points behind Buffalo’s Pat LaFontaine in the scoring race.

On the day of his last radiation treatment, Lemieux flew to Philadelphia to play against the Flyers, where he scored a goal and an assist in a 5-4 loss. Before the game Lemieux earned a standing ovation from Philadelphia fans—a rare occurrence for a visiting player. With Lemieux back, Pittsburgh won an NHL record 17 consecutive games to finish first overall for the first time in franchise history; their 119 points are still a franchise record. Lemieux scored at an incredible pace, notching an average 2.67 points per game—the third highest points-per-game for a season, behind only Wayne Gretzky’s 1983–84 and 1985–86 averages of 2.77 and 2.69, respectively. Lemieux won his second straight and fourth overall scoring title, finishing with 160 points (69 goals, 91 assists) in 60 games, beating out LaFontaine by 12 points.

How ESPN hasn’t done one of their documentaries on this is beyond me. That’s imfuckingpossible.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Doesn't fit the script

But Mario is simply amazing… and he realized preventing goals was a good thing. And he’s on the cover of NHL 2002 which is the best non NHL 94 hockey game ever. So that’s got to count for something.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to care about defense when you finish with a +/- of 98

Gretzky definitely had the better career so it’s impossible to say Lemieux “was” better………..but there aren’t much bigger what ifs than Lemieux.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

NHL 02 ruled

i’m not even a big hockey fan, and that was a fun game.

DO IT FOR TORTY!
twitter

by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 23, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was the last sports game that had announcers that were fun.

That hit shook the people sitting in the rafters. Which begs the question, why are people sitting in the rafters? That’s just good stuff there..

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mario was awesome

but Gretzky did stuff that had never been done before. He reminded me of Larry Bird. He made everyone around him a superstar. For sheer elegance, I’d take Gretzky. If I needed to win Game 7 of the Cup I would choose Mario.

Just win

by The Duke on Oct 23, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

And winning championships is what it's about

Hence Mario is better QED

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't Remind Me

As great as Mario was, must admit to having a long time dislike of the Penguins. Granted, I’ll admit I was never predisposed to like Pittsburgh teams to start with, due to the Pirates’ rivalry with the Cards in the 70’s but had grown to totally dislike the Penguins.

Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.

by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't watch hockey though.

Growing up in NW Iowa, hockey was just totally off the radar when it came to sports watching, let alone playing. Baseball during the summer, handegg in the fall, college basketball and NBA in the winter and spring.

From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.

by icardinal on Oct 23, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Put it this way

Calling anyone else The Great One is a worse offense than calling someone else The Big Unit. It’s taken.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say it's as bad as attempting to call another athlete "The Man."

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And there's only one LT.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 23, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Sniffle*

I will inform my brother we must change…

From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.

by icardinal on Oct 23, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

**Sniffle here too"

Not to mention my younger daughter.

Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.

by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Jackie Gleason

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point.

different genre’s though. But good point.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

after he said he didn't like "El Hombre," and people asked him what he wanted to be called

he said just Albert.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 23, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"Why didn't you eliminate him, Albert?"

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's it....

sell the whole city of St. Louis if needed, but re-sign that big ape now!

:=8)

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 23, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

My only problem with the Cardinals in the WS

Is the shear amount of fair weather fans I got to deal with. They keep trying to talk baseball when obviously they know very little about baseball.

by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 23, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

educate them, then.

the only tragedy is if they remain fairweather fans.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

There are no such thing as Rangers fans...

that was a trick question

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

napping?

I don’t know what you are talking about…

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh i had mentioned how i would hate losing to the rangers

cause iknow all these “fans” who wern’t really fans until the WS talking smack on fb.. i’d ratehr lose to a diehard. soem were like not sure it matters..

i’m like when the cards lose and you see your thread it’s kind of annoying especially when you know some don’t know anything about baseball

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah

Yeah I live in Chicago… I understand the whole “die hard” fan who still has tags hanging from the jersey and hat phenomena…

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

for example

one of my friends started talking crap about the rangers…i was like arent you a red saox fan? he’s like yeah but i root for the home team(lives in dallas)
 i’m like you have two teams in the same league..

thankfully you didnt like the tigers in 06

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

You get one team in each league...

that’s how it works. I hope I never meet this person cause I might be tempted to punch them…

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he's better than this conversation

..
Me:hmm thought you were from IL

Her: true. but my heart is in texas…. :)

Me: didnt know u liked baseball

Her: i like batting. i seldom watch it butt my team is going for the championship so i think all of TX is tuning in.

Me: haha sounds about right

Her: ya im a base ball fan when it suits me. i do attend a game every few years and thats fun.

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah crap...

it’s a lady so I can’t punch… bah

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

no the first one is a dude

this ones a lady..

and i’d have more, but you get my point…

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

woo I get to go punchy punchy

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

some root for the rangers cause they are from TX

i was like thats like me rooting for the cubs since im from IL and they make the series..if that happens before i die..

did get one comment from a houstonian: i hate anything from dallas go cardinals

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So intrastate hate

outweighes intradivision hate… good to know.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are no baseball fans here :(

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

el hombre..hardocore legend

 i believe in 06 Hardcore Legend photoshopped the movie poster and albert anyone have it

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

awesome

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love how the girl is just kind of smiling dumbly the entire time

I hope that’s a Rangers fan.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know who was the happiest fans outside of Cardinal fans last night?

Dodgers fans, Because they can hope they will stop showing Reggie Jackson hitting 3 HR’s against them.

by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 23, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Unless ESPN goes under that's never happening.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like there is an important date

and several events missing from this.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Albert doesn't like that nickname.

the only one calling him that is Tim McCarver, sooooo….

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is he aware of "The Maching"

crap, what am I saying – Albert has been self-aware for a while now.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 23, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

didnt know that but

once upon a time there was a photoshop here

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert sees it as disrespectful to Stan.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah

sorry to be taboo didnt know that, but i do know a pic was made on here of it..

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

it might've been before Albert went and made it clear.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

on a related note, he okayed "winnie the pujols"

and Berman just obligingly called him that, saying maybe he has time to play TE for the Rams.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert was making the point

he’d rather have that than El Hombre.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

no i get it

i just said i dont like it.. not a berman fan

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Music

Highly recommend the new Puscifer album – It’s slightly different than the last two and this album is more A Perfect Circle-esque.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 23, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Who's he behind?

I really don’t like those records that count all 3 rounds and people talk on them as if they’re on par with old postseason records.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense...

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

At noon MLBN will be replaying Game 3

They think it’ll be over by the time Game 4 starts at 7.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

it will be three days later

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

They trim much of the crap

(cough -McCarver-cough)

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

McCarver is like that superfluous sprig of parsley on the steak plate.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think that game should be titled

Beast Mode: An Instructional Video

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just...wow

I was at a WS party, and when he hit that it was pandemonium. Somebody asked me ‘when did the Rangers trade for Lidge?’

I’m still laughing at that.

Oh, and RE-SIGN HIM!

Some people just need a high five. In the face. With a chair.

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by Ted Glover on Oct 23, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

these twitter follow widget things

take up a lot of screen space for me? is anyone else having that issue?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd prefer, aesthetically,

just a link to the twitter page like prophet has.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

albert and the post season

i can’t remember in 04, or 06 him being this good throughout the playoffs.

he did hr in 06 in game one, and at times in those playoffs was good, but this entire playoffs he seems to be playing much better..but i couldnt find significant stats

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Magic!

People forget that he outhit Beltran in the 04 NLCS .

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

just found something

but he didnt hit well in the world series in 06, but overall including this yr

343 avg, 18 hr 52 rbi.. maybe just at how great hes been in 11

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he has about 10 years...

to hit a half-dozen more and break the postseason record for HR.

i, for one, think he’ll do it.

by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 23, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

A pedophile?

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

secretly teaching kids life-skills.................?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

semi-relavent link

here. uhh.. it’s Maddox, so it’s really not safe for anywhere or anyone.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 23, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

My friends and I were at a bar that had Guess Who.

We played by asking questions like “is the person a pedophile? is the person a porn star?” stuff like that… way more enjoyable way to play the game.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow!

I’d completely forgotten about that game! also, that’s creepy.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 23, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does Albert not like "el hombre"?

I think it is a term of endearment. It recognizes that Stan was “the Man” and puts a twist on it to recognize Albert’s greatness. He can protest, but at some point (and I think that point has been reached), he should accept that he really is that good (both in talent and integrity) and that those comparisons are apt.

I like it, I hope he comes around to embracing it, especially if he signs for the long haul

Just win

by The Duke on Oct 23, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Racist

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pujols believes that there is only one "The Man" in any language and that is Stan Musial.

I agree with Pujols.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he really just hates unoriginal nick names...

Feels the people of STL can do better.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i could come up with a few but the'd be long

reliever breaker
the glare(as mentioned on VEB about the look he has when he’s hitting well)

or we could just use the mlb 2k generic nickname genarato thing

the animal
the hacker
etc

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do we need one?

I guess I’m okay calling him Pujols.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's wrong with the maching (or machine)

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunno

i thought i read above it was bad too…seems like a lot of requirements for a nickname..haha

im with bgh he probably doesnt need one

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing at all.

I kind of think that, if a no-doubt-about-it nickname for Pujols were to be had, it would have emerged as the consensus nickname by now.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I already mentioned that those sportscasters and writers who don't pay too much attention

seem to be calling him The King at lot — too much.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

One word:

Pujols.

From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.

by icardinal on Oct 23, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also agree with Pujols.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 23, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if he stays

if not, call him whatever

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 23, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he does know he's that good.

but allow him to show some respect to his baseball forebears.

it’s a simple request. imposing a nickname on him that he’s stated he does not like is just selfish and self-entitled of fans.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure who you're replying to

but yeah i wouldn’t force one on him. but it’s not like it matters in my house i could say whatever. my life will never be of any importance to AP.

and im not sure he needs one as said above,

i never really use one for him, other than hombre before i found he hated it…or mang/ maching because of the commercial

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Tony Siragusa is the absolute worst (non-baseball division).

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Pujols and the Cards showed no mercy

like the Rangers showed no mercy to the Tigers.

by XxStLunaticxX on Oct 23, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

OT: this has to be by far the worst study session ever...

I just don’t care any more. I want this stupid test to be over. I should never have opened VEB…

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

once the zombies bite you, it festers

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of '06...

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are you studying for? P.E. or PTOE exam?

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 23, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

PE

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 23, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the facepalm meme was invented just for Omar Minaya.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Oct 23, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no, joker you don't understand

Omar Minaya has amazing business in people smarts that allows him to be a successful GM, even though he knows nothing about baseball. We should surely fail in his shoes.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha found it! Matt Holliday: Deadpan Man.
“I guess it could have been included if it had gone in my mouth,” Holliday said. “Or, if it had wound up somewhere that caused me to miss a few games. Somehow maybe hitting my temple and knocking me out, maybe. The fact that it didn’t hit me is a real lifesaver.”
He grinned.
“You know,” he deadpanned, “considering it was a Wiffle Ball.”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Oh Matthew.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 23, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, right?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just got back home from the game last night....

Fucking awesome. Albert crushed that first home run. Good thing GWB got to witness firsthand some shock and awe.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 23, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

There's something about playing in front of former presidents named George Bush

that leads Pujols to hit massive homers that are soul-crushing for Texas ball clubs.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say we put them on the payroll

better than any coaching could ever do…

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ogando = no pressers.

i understand it’s a rule for the overall-ness of MLB but it just seems so dumb. they’re athletes. post-game is part of their routine. if their first priority is forgetting the last game and moving on, providing a 10-second clip that will play on repeat all day long is kind of counter to that goal. screw the media.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Like I said above...

everyone is peaking at the same time.

"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

you must have missed when they hit that baseball towards him.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember a couple of plays on defense that Punto probably makes.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i saw that with theirot...

couple guys were hanging out laughing< cant remember who…and he walked up put his arms around them and they got this sour look on their faces…

just saying..

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by Red Blazer on Oct 23, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least McKay is subtle

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought they were gonna have to call the EMT's

for Nolan Ryan last night. He looked like he was gonna have a breakdown

by XxStLunaticxX on Oct 23, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

.........seriously?
How Did Albert Pujols Become A Great World Series Hitter?
Baseball Nation – Rob Neyer – ‎40 minutes ago‎

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

did you read it?

actually pretty good piece, and not really about pujols.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then came Pujols, right there with the Babe and Reg-gie among October legends, but alone for an entire generation. - Tom Verducci

And we will always remember where we were, when we saw The Great Pujols rearrange baseball history – Bernie

by D4 on Oct 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll never forget that I was propped up in my bed, drinking Highland Park and Voss water. Ah, memories.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

careful with that water

Highland Park only needs 3-5 drops

"You've got to have an attitude if your going to go far in this game." -- Bob Gibson

by cyclone on Oct 23, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like the in-game interview with Jaime,

now that I can separate it from the Cruz home run, except for the part where Crazy Uncle Tim points out to him that different pitchers pitch in different ways.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

that was almost like hazing Jaime

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

dumbest question ever.

i thought for a second he’d misspoke; then i remembered it was Tim McCarver.

by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 23, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of Steve Stone saying in those old WGN Cubs broadcasts,

“Now, for you youngsters at home, . . . .”

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Cards are currently touring the massive cowboys thingy complex.

ringleader: Laird

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

in related tidbits, the rams players got to see to the 4th inning

@thegame

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, I thought I mentioned it already, but i must've re-started

Yadier Molina. holy whoa.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure what you're referring to, but

it’s pretty clear to me that Molina’s 5th inning double was the hit that made me think the Cards have this game.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cardinals front office

http://twitpic.com/74ew1q
time before mysterui photoshops his face in……

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks awful close to the top of the stadium

good thing none of them suffered altitude sickness. I think we should file some kind of grievance.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 23, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fear for their safety.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

everyone knows all Texans carry guns. They could be shot!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 23, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to refrain from tasteless railing jokes.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, baseball is an old man's game all right.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

neat

my sister used to be roomates with the girl in the middle. she gave me a gibson and a brock bobblehead.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

also a mcgwire bobblehead

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 23, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

next thing you'll tell me she's from St. Louis

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

actually, she isn’t..

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 23, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

shockhorror

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

not everyone can be as awesome as ryan howard

it is what it is.

i know that.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 23, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

...are you saying Ryan Howard is from St. Louis

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

My name is Dan Lozano

You want to sign the mang ?
Prepare to pay

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 23, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

$275 for Game 6 tickets

Keep riding the wheel or pull the trigger? $611 total for 2 tickets.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 23, 2011 1:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

DOOO EEET

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 23, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Texans:

Tickets for tonight and tomorrow continue to drop
.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 23, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't need to know this.

Or more accurately, my wife doesn’t need to know this.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

She's ignoring the conversation.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, SRO for tonight is $185

i’d pretty much have to leave right now

maybe next year

by prophetjohn on Oct 23, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

you expect us to be in the worl series next ?

Grab a fresh pair of underwear and go

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 23, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't necessarily expect to be alive next year

but i don’t really have $185. i mean i do, but i’m only semi-employed and i’m trying to have enough money to live in barcelona for a month next summer

also, my car is a piece of shit and no guarantee to actually make it to dallas and back

by prophetjohn on Oct 23, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, tonight's impossible for me

but tomorrow’s looking good. I’m so pleased I didn’t schedule a class on Tuesdays before 5 pm.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 23, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I'm going to try to go tomorrow too. Nobody to go with, but fuck it, WS.

I’m going to wait until halfway through the game, and if the Cardinals are winning, I might wait until after the game to buy. If they’re losing, I’ll buy right away. Price will probably drop if Cards win, rise if they lose.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 23, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've kept an eye on 'em since I arrived home

SRO went up just a bit, but overall ticket prices went down (i.e. if you want to sit instead of stand, the prices are now more palatable).

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 23, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he gives his team a spark! Clearly he ie Jesus!

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Oct 23, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

B-Ref joins BCBlite

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

WPA is such a trash stat, though

seems like it would inherently underrate a game like this simply because if you’re hitting 3 home runs and going 5-6, there’s a significant chance your team has a pretty big lead

it’s too bad pujols doesn’t have the skill of keeping the score between his team and the opposition closer

by prophetjohn on Oct 23, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can a contrarian pass up the opportunity to call a 3-HR game "not very good"

because his pitchers didn’t give up runs at the rate he was creating them?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's like saying throwing a no-hitter is unimpressive

Because your team wins 9-0.

The rangers didn’t leave some AAAA reliever out there to soak up runs. Pujols hit his homers off some pretty good relievers. It’s an accomplishment. The relative leverage of the accomplishment isn’t substantial.

The only valid point is that some of the media’s language is overheated.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 23, 2011 4:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I understand what WPA tries to do.

But seriously this line

5-6, 4 R, 6 RBI, 2 1B, 3 HR

is amazing during the regular season, let alone the World Series.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, but I don't understand how WPA works...

Mark Whiten 4-HR game

4-5, 4 R, 12 RBI, 4 HR WPA .346

Score of game: 15-2. 4-2 after the first inning, then St. Louis adds runs in innings 5-9.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

it depends on when this stuff happens

you know those WE graphs that we don’t post before the game is over? you just look at the spikes on those graphs. it’s the win probability after a play, minus the win probability before the play and then you do that for each play that a player is involved in and add them up

so, the second and third HRs pujols hit had basically no effect on win probability and might as well not have happened according to WPA since the cards already had like a 95% chance of winning

by prophetjohn on Oct 23, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't get me wrong, it's amusing

and i have no problem with someone pointing out impressive WPA numbers, same as it’s amusing when someone amasses 160 RBI or whatever in the regular season. but trying to evaluate a player based on a metric that is intentionally context-dependent doesn’t do it for me

by prophetjohn on Oct 23, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean WPA does what it says it does

Using it as a reflection of how well the player did is dumb.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always more or less took the stat to be

some way to measure how ‘clutch’ a guy was… anything outside of that seems to really be stretching.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's really stupid also

WPA doesn’t neutralize opportunities.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

YEAH HEAR THAT DUCTAPE I CALLED YOU STUPID

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other words
I’m trying to say something different. See? It’s different, like PBR and skinny jeans.

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by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those guys probably ironically like the Astros!

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I'm done reading LSB now.

They won’t let go of Pujols walking out on the media, they talk about football in 33% of their thread (not game thread), and they basically make it impossible to interact with them.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 23, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like VEB in blue...

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

We do none of those things.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 23, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair Texas Tech was awesome last night.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 23, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reggie contacted Albert

no report whether planets collided

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

@JoeStrauss
Joe Strauss
TLR says Salas unavailable until Game 6. No Cardinals arm has been ridden harder this series, this postseason, last 5 months.

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by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

PEACE, FERD!

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until Game *6*?

If necessary, that is Wednesday. Very worrisome.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

shoud DL him and install Sanchez

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by scoot on Oct 23, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure they can point to something on an xray and say he's hurt.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they're "pointing to something on an X-ray" then there is very likely a legitimate arm injury.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to say

it’s the end of a long season… I’m sure if you look hard enough you can justify anything as an injury.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

my question though is can you DL a guy mid series and replace him

that seems like it could be easily abused. like this situation exactly, get a fresh pen arm after riding a guy who would be unavailable the next few games.

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

or throw out that catch-all diagnosis: "Dead Arm"

Salas’ “stuff” wasn’t there at all last night

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by scoot on Oct 23, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow that's not good

makes the use of dotel last night even more frustrating. we are two men down tonight then without Salas and Lynn. yikes

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry.

Westbrook is on the roster.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

my fernando...

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NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 23, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE AIR THAT NIGHT

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

i was going more Lady gaga

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by Aranathor on Oct 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

you admitted that.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really surprising

He threw 3/4 days the 2nd-5th, 10th-13th (both included a 2 inning stint) and 19th-22. His arm has to be hanging.

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by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The National

I’m very excited for The National. This piece on last night is a good example why.

Albert Pujols has been known to hit the sort of home run that makes you worry about the pitcher’s self-esteem going forward. Pujols’ power swing is always a lovely, measured whiplash, but the special mind-fucking swing unfolds in one seamless motion.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

what's "the national"?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Classical.

You’d think I could somehow manage to type the right name when I linked to the article off of The Classical’s Twitter account’s tweet.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

no problem.

=)

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Classical, you mean?

I know the National have a new album due out eventually here, but I think that’s not what you’re referring to.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. I do. Ugh.

One of those days with the brain functioning on two different levels.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR's neo-Victorian team

hehehe i like that

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

they *might* be prone to mixing their metaphors.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just glad someone else is bringing the term "jobbers" into professional sports other than wrestling.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

HR #3 on mlbn right now

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 23, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

him and his caps-lock fetish

apparently you look cooler with uppercase letters rather than lowercase ones. ha!

by hr on Oct 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSM is doing something baseball-y

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

oh, it's the postgame.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLBN replay came in at a cool 2 hours instead of 4 hours, 4 minutes.

I laughed again at the old silent treatment gag the dugout pulled on Pujols.

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by vico on Oct 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a classic.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert: "It is what it is"

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by scoot on Oct 23, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

the thing about that round of pressers yesterday

it was so late, the crickets had taken over the stadium
i think they all just wanted to sleep

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

any idea when lineups are gonna be announced?

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by Aranathor on Oct 23, 2011 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

My dad

Who, ostensibly, was for the rasmus trade, texted me after the Jay CS and asked if we could have Colby back

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120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
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by VolsnCards5 on Oct 23, 2011 5:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

freese is a disciplined hitter? news to me.

I think he’s a pretty free swinger who rarely walks.

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by tom s. on Oct 23, 2011 5:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

he does lead the team in pitches/PA

But that could be a result of fouling of pitches more than anything.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 23, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

This makes the most sense to me.

Still a good thing to have a high # of pitches/PA, even if it seems like when he really hammers a ball it’s on pitch #1 or #2.

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

Furcal has much more experience and he is sucking from the lead off spot

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 23, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Furcal has been hitting the ball pretty hard.

I just wish he’d stop giving up strike 1 with that drag-bunting shit.

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i feel like furcal has gotten screwed a lot with his balls in play

where as Jay is just a roll over to second waiting to happen and almost always within 2 pitches.

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Furcal bats like .440 lifetime on bunt-hit attempts

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would rather he just takes the first pitch tonight against Holland

who has been ridiculously wild this postseason.

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rasmus would have been better

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally. That .201 OBP he had post-trade

really makes me wish he was on our postseason roster right now as our starting CF.

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

1-for-27<<<<<s post-trade .173

Colby probably wouldn’t have gone 1-for-27, but what were the odds that Jay would have gone 1-for-27? Comparably low, I would guess.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 23, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the exact opposite of the argument y'all have been making about the Rasmus trade.

I give up.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't speak for anyone else

But I don’t see how this conflicts with anything I’ve said about it. Please keep in mind I’m just talking about these 27 posteason ABs.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 23, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I wasn't really talking to you specifically

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strauss saying in addition to Salas, Lynn is unavailable tonight.

And Dotel only in “emergencies.”

I repeat: we should definitely have seen Westbrook last night.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

2 runs, 0 hits?

so, theriot and skip are the starting middle infield?

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by cschepers on Oct 23, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

we were up 8 runs when dotel came in

i mean its possible but it would be the biggest collapse in WS history. and if boggs got in serious trouble you can bring dotel in then

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree. I would have gone to Boggs,

but we had seen a 5 run lead shrink to 2 twice already that evening, and Napoli was up with a runner on. I don’t mind Dotel coming in all that much. My bigger problem is with not seeing Boggs in the 8th.

by a fink on Oct 23, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's where I'm at, too.

I wanted Westbrook for the last two innings. If you don’t trust the guy not to give up a lead that big, you’re just admitting we don’t have 13 (it’s 13, right?) acceptable pitchers in the organization. Which isn’t true.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

bullpen

I was banging this drum last night on the game thread. Tony’s bullpen usage made no sense and with this news its downright stupid.

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by njnick on Oct 23, 2011 5:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i think dotel is available though, his tweet is easy to misread

JoeStrauss Joe Strauss
Tonight is an emergency. Guessing Mitch Boggs key. RT @jabbered: @JoeStrauss no Salas, no Lynn, and Dotel only in emergency tonight?

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah "jabbered" is the one that suggested Dotel is only available in emergency

Strauss is saying tonight IS an emergency. So basically saying that Dotel IS available.

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by scoot on Oct 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Per MLBN, Rangers lineup
Kinsler 2B
Andrus SS
Hamilton CF
Young DH
Beltre 3B
Cruz RF
Murphy LF
Napoli C
Moreland 1B

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by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

SECOND CLEANUP

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by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously?

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 23, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course...

You have to go lefty-righty-lefty at the bottom of the lineup… and Young, Beltre, and Cruz can’t be moved. Wow, Wash is a crazy dude.

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

They said Washington has released his lineup.

And I’ve seen some reference to Napoli hitting eighth, but no complete lineup.

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by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say: even though batting order doesn't matter,*

this is funny-looking batting order.

*yes, I know that it does a little bit over a season, but my argument is that the effect is vanishingly small in a single game, so for my purposes here it doesn’t matter

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

jesus, Washington

this is just unfair to Rangers fans.

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by tehzachatak on Oct 23, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU THINK THE RANGER'S BEST HITTER WON'T BAT 8TH?!

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOLOLOLOLOL

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

$145 for SRO for game 5.

Should I pull the trigger or wait for the game to be played tonight? If the Cards win, I could get them cheaper, if the Rangers win, price goes up.

by chriswallace on Oct 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Pull the trigger

Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
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by cj2k on Oct 23, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

good move

i went SRO to Miller for Game 6, and it was well worth it.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you get tired standing for three hours?

Is there literally no way to steal someone’s seat?

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

we sat in the 9th, when the crowd had thinned a lot

and yeah, i’d rather sit. but it’s really not too bad.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like how McCarver pronounces it as "hambre," literally "hungry"

because Pujols is hungry for more nom nom nom

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by peppermartin on Oct 23, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe Pos has arrived
In Pujols’s case, I do think that a big part of his success comes from that heartfelt desire to crush every person who ever doubted him, who ever questioned his talent, who ever determined that he wasn’t good enough.

http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2011/10/pujols-and-respect.html

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Who ever questioned his talent?

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh geez...

isn’t pride one of the seven deadly sins?

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

but so is sloth

the 7 deadly sins are pretty contradictory.

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by Aranathor on Oct 23, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

/religion

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone, didn't you hear Poz?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cards lineup
@CardsInsider
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StL Lineup at TEX (10/23) Game 4 WS: Furcal 6; Craig 9; Pujols 3; Holliday 7; Berkman DH; Freese 5; Molina 2; Jay 8; Punto 4. Jackson RHP.

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by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm loving the sans Theriot lineup. TLR, do this forever

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by cj2k on Oct 23, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

La Russa is like the dog that keeps eating the chiles off my pepper plant...

he remembers that Theriot sucks, but then he forgets and has to be reminded again.

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

PUNTO!

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 23, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punto Gonna Punt

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by tehzachatak on Oct 23, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

just realized why its Punto over Theriot

Punto 3-5 with a homer off Holland
Theriot 0-3

You know TLR made the decision based on that too, you just know it.

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just going to assume it has to do with the whole defense thing...

Blissfully ignorant is a nice state of being.

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

great post, but you forgot something!

You forgot about us little girls! Gotta LOVE this sport! And Albert.

by HIfan on Oct 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Any female that can stick around and survive the comments

has my utmost respect.

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by azruavatar on Oct 23, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awwwww...thanks AZ.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 23, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine as well.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

What game did Felipe Lopez do the bat flip and hand wave for us? and does anyone have a video or GIF?

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by cj2k on Oct 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Who would be the Rangers long man today if we trounce Holland

good news is their pen might be in just as bad of shape as ours. Ogando has to be unavailable, and possibly Feldman too.

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

um... i don't know.

Feldman was their 5th starter this year, right? Dunno, seems like maybe they need innings out of their starter even more than we do.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, and holland has high blow up potential

they are pretty screwed if we knock him out early. feldman didn’t start this year, i don’t know if he would be available today. but him and ogando are their long guys

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adams and Feliz are fresh...

and Ogando is probably out. Aside from that the other four guys are probably equal.

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Jackson keeps the ball down

he really needs to go deep in the game. Come one baseball gods give him the power of Bob Gibson for one night only.

by XxStLunaticxX on Oct 23, 2011 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

7 innings would be fine

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by cj2k on Oct 23, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey guys, I'm fairly new

I’m not sure if it’s been discussed or even viable, but if Edwin goes deepish tonight and we win what are the odds of using Westy tomorrow? I mean that saves Carp for a possible elimination game/clincher at Busch on regular rest. Would Tony even consider it?

by Ahals15 on Oct 23, 2011 4:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I would imagine that Tony would have him throw game 5

since that would also be a potential elimination game in this scenario, but who knows. I’m not the best at prognosticating what Tony’ll try to do.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you watched him pitch lately?

Other than the Phillies game, he hasn’t pitched too well. The dude needs some rest.

by DiscoJer on Oct 23, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was excellent in Game 1.

One bad pitch that wasn’t even that terrible.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carp is fine

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by nota bene on Oct 23, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't he be on regular rest in game 5?

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like Matthew Leach said on twitter the other day

to save guys for later on down the road is asking for trouble in the post season. Play to win each game as it comes.

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by scoot on Oct 23, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea that's probably true

No sense in holding Carp out when the object is win in the fewest games possible. Thanks

by Ahals15 on Oct 23, 2011 4:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

not sure that he'd rest

carp for a guy who hasnt thrown in forever…Crazy tony in that form hasnt been seen in a bit..

of course he did one play a guy with dh available who had a groin issue in the outfield, and dh the healthy guy..but it wasnt game 5 of the series

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 23, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Carp is pretty much out of gas

Wouldn’t it make sense to have a rested (extra day) Carp in Busch than a dead tired Carp in Rangers stadium? And then you could have a rested Garcia in game 7 at Busch.

It just makes way too much sense to start Westbrook in game 5.

by DiscoJer on Oct 23, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I don't think it makes much sense.

Westbrook hasn’t thrown a live game in almost a month.

Carpenter has looked great on 5 days rest.

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

extra rest is often just as much of a curse as it is a blessing.

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by tehzachatak on Oct 23, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not for Carp actually.

For his career he’s got a much better record with extra rest. I’ll see if I can get the statistic.

by hangingfromatree on Oct 23, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

the rams are doing there best to make it interesting

while we have to listen to aj pierzynski continue to cheer for the rangers.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I also like how we get to endure Eric Karros...

#reasonsirefusetowatchtheFOXpregameshow

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Karros, himself, I don't mind so much

but Karros along with his hair makes it almost unbearable

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by peppermartin on Oct 23, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speakin of hair

what’s with the resurgence of bleach tips on dudes. it looks ridiculous.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping that it's not lost on Pujols that this week's press controversy would be small potatoes

in comparison to how the press would treat him elsewhere.

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by peppermartin on Oct 23, 2011 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

NY Press

Could we imagine how the NY City press would treat him?

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure hope so

Plus the Yankees need another first baseman like a hole in the head. They already got Mark Teixeira.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Millar is a tool

true story.

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by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I have "highlights."

They’re grey.

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by tom s. on Oct 23, 2011 6:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I really enjoy all baseball related questions on ESPN.

Texas and Wisconsin vote very pro how you’d expect Texas to vote… The state of Wisconsin needs to stop acting like a pissed off child.

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by ducttape16 on Oct 23, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

WHAT UP MEMELORDS

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

We're talking about last night's game.

Have anything to add?

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was so crazy when Albert hit those three HR!

Man I was yelling so much I pooped my pants again

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You wear pants?

Lololololol hipster.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hey Robit, did all those tears shortcircuit you?

(I rec’d it).

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

StubHub's website is so awesome

tickets are listed on their mobile app at $275, but online they are $300.

About an hour ago they dropped to $200 for a brief moment but the app was so unresponsive that I couldn’t purchase them in time.

SWEET!

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 23, 2011 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I also set a price alert to notify me

if the tickets were to drop below $280 and $250 and it has not sent me an alert all day, yet tickets have been below $280 all day up until about 40 minutes ago.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 23, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's really terrible.

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by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point, not only am I hoping we win tonight so that we win tonight

but I’m hoping people with Game 6 tickets for sale panic that there won’t be a game and they crash the price since they only paid $50 for SRO from MLB.com

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 23, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I can get two tickets for $200 - $225 each plus StubHub's 10% fee on both

I’ll be there. We are planning on going at this point but we really would prefer to pay less than $500 for the tickets. Pretty surprised my wife has been so supportive of this endeavor.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 23, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Inevitably

there will be atleast a few tickets left and at an hour or so till gametime they seller will want to get SOME money back on the ticket.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 23, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually

more like hour and a half before.

I think they shut down purchasing an hour before.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 23, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stubhub.com shuts down tickets EXACTLY two hours before game time.

That means 7:05 Central gets shut down at 5:05 Central. I’ve watched the site all day for the past two days and it was the same both times.

There were SRO tix for $89 right before ticket sales shut down.

by chriswallace on Oct 23, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

I’m having trouble converting east coast to midwest time.

There was a ticket for tomorrow night’s game on the mobile app for $4. That seems crazy to me but true.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 23, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Subtract 1 from East Coast Time

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That shouldn't really matter much

If the game doesn’t happen they end up with nothing no matter what.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 23, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I understand it correct

if they sell them on StubHub for $200 dollars, the seller makes $150 profit plus the $50 refund from MLB.

The person that bought from StubHub gets refund from StubHub as part of fan guarantee.

StubHub gets the 10% from the seller.

Unless I’m doing this wrong.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 23, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's wrong, nobody gets charged anything.

The charge would be reversed for the buyer on MLB.com and the buyer on Stubhub.com.

by chriswallace on Oct 23, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seller will get $50 from MLB.com

Buyer will get $200 from StubHub.com.

Will StubHub take the $200 from the seller?

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 23, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course

No way they could stay in business otherwise.

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys did I miss anything last night

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

nah.

sloppy game. nothing really stood out.

by hangingfromatree on Oct 23, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

try 20 seconds.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I need, baby

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you know what you're doing down there...

anything longer is just showing off.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's exempt as a creative professional

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 23, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So what'd I miss?

Albert somebody did something?

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 23, 2011 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Albertus Magnus

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mistype here.

Albertus Magnus — Latin for Albert the Great

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mr. Octobert

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by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Octalbert!

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

there it is

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by nota bene on Oct 23, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albertus Maximus

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Best

Albert the Best. In the name meaning department, the French last name Lemieux actually means “The Best”.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alberto Lemieux?

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by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Le Mejor

We should do the Spanish equivalent — Alberto Le Mejor.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

El Mejor

Alberto Le Mejor. (My old habits from typing French definite articles die hard.)

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

GET THE FRENCH CRAP OUTTA HERE

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am

That’s why I had to look up the Spanish.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albertus Magnus

Albertus Magnus, also known as Albert the Great, was one of the most universal thinkers to appear during the Middle Ages.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoops, reply fail. Meant to reply to Chris Wallace.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 23, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert Pujols' Swing and Stride

For those of you who are interested in my hitting stuff, I just updated my piece on Albert’s stride with a clip from last night…

- Albert Pujols’ Stride

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Oct 23, 2011 6:22 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Who here has seen The Seventh Seal?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there any chance you could give me like a paragraph long expansion of some theme in the movie?

It’s for my philosophy class. I promise I’ll watch the movie, cause I have to write an entire essay, but this is just for this thing I have to post the to class forum by 5 today.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

This seems like something that you could google really easily

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I trust VEB more

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, thanks anyway.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's basically Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey

in black and white.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 23, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

some googling reveals

1
2
3
4
5

all of these are reviews that deal with themes in depth.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're aiding and abetting in cheating.

He “promises” to watch the movie at some undisclosed later date.

by hangingfromatree on Oct 23, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanna watch it

It looks cool.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hated Sucker Punch

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really care that much.

These were all within the first two pages of a google search.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Rangers and Cardinals both have a ~Top 5 system in the minors

Crazy

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

how about the cardinals

going from one of the worst just a few years ago to one of the best.

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by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's certainly something Mozeliak doesn't get enough credit for, I think

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it will take a couple years

before a lot of VEB’ers forgive MO…

Right about the time that farm system starts making a big impact at the ML level.

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The healing process could start as soon as tomorrow night!

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't be top 5...

Better than all of the Rangers, Rays, Royals, Braves, Blue Jays, Reds?

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are the Reds really that highly regarded?

I thought a lot of their top guys kinda had down years in 2011.

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think better than the Reds'

And the Royals have graduated most of their stars that made them a great system

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck all yall...

I didn’t grow up with all this texting business

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's it got to do with texting

it’s the closest you can get to one of those squiggly equal signs that means approximately equal

at least without memorizing some special character’s alt code

or so i assume that’s the origin of it

by prophetjohn on Oct 23, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's not texting

That’s a sabermetrics thing even. ~.300 wOBA, look familiar?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck ~all yall

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by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

good! you're learning!

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nicely done.

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by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, I probably should've typed "Top ~5" instead of "~Top 5"

That’s probably what messed you up, right?

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today's Simulation

is right over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
in the Fanpost section at VEB
along with my game notes.

Link

by Xeifrank on Oct 23, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

thanks so much!

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 23, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i posted it up in the thread but i think dotel is available.

if you read the strauss tweet it was poorly worded but he was saying tonight “is an emergency” so i think he means dotel is fine

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

so velveeta cheese is disgusting before cookage.

I don’t get how it isn’t refigerated.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

disgusting looking.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

for starters

it’s not cheese

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 23, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

well thats true.

But taste soo good when mixed with chili beans and hot sauce.

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by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

How awesome is it having Allen Craig on this team?

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

very

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 23, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really, really hope so

He needs to be playing every day

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guy can really rake...

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrench

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He needs to play 2B every game during Spring Training.

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean

Winter ball ?

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 23, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

can he be at least as acceptable standing at 2nd as skippy?

I don’t think I saw any of his games there whenever they were played. I’m pretty skeptical, although some of that might be stupid bias against power hitters playing second.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He would likely be among the worst 5 fielding 2B in the league and among the 5 best hitting

I think it’s probably a great tradeoff

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Second basemen
Clint Barmes (33)
Willie Bloomquist (34) – $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
Orlando Cabrera (37)
Robinson Cano (29) – $14MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Jamey Carroll (37)
Alex Cora (36)
Craig Counsell (41)
Mark Ellis (35)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Bill Hall (32) – $4MM mutual option with a $250K buyout
Aaron Hill (30) – $8MM club option for 2012 and $8MM club option for ’13
Kelly Johnson (30)
Adam Kennedy (36)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Aaron Miles (35)
Brandon Phillips (31) – $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Drew Sutton (29)

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by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have this recurring dream where I wake up and we traded for Neil Walker.

Also, I would accept Kelly Johnson for 2/10 or so.

Also sigh, I see Kennedy and Miles on that list and one of those fuckers is definitely going to end up on the team.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so.

…for the first offseason in a while, I think we avoid any trash signings. We re-sign Punto and have no need of another utility player. When we want to see crappy offense from a MIF we will see Kozma.

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip is a bad hitter and a bad defender.

So a good hitter and bad fielder at second base would probably be more tolerable to watch.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's no way

Brown Mackie College is real.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets see...

Game 1 @ girlfriends = Jager & red bull = win
Game 2 @ girlfriends = no Jager/red bull = loss
Game 4 @ girlfriends = red bull in the fridge

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 23, 2011 7:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

that's kind of a yuck

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

---Edmund Burke to the VEB community

by guayzimi on Oct 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't had jager in two years

Jager pretty much comes back up the same way it went down…

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've noticed its one of those drinks people either love or hate

I don’t think its one of those drinks you kinda like. Its an all or nothing drink. I think of Jager as McGwire back in ’01. All or nothing.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 23, 2011 7:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well Joe Strauss sucks what else is new

JoeStrauss Joe Strauss
To correct earlier post, Lynn red-flagged for next 2 games. Salas a yellow flag tonight and likely available Monday.

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

PLEASE BE GOOD AT THE ONE THING WE RELY ON YOU FOR

too much to ask, I know….

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did he say earlier?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Salas would be unavailable until Game 6.

And Lynn was unavailable until tomorrow.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This, which sounded like an injury.
TLR says Salas unavailable until Game 6.

by a fink on Oct 23, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

should have known he was full of shit

Salas threw 15 pitches yesterday, Lynn threw 50

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do think Salas could likely use a night off.

He’s been out for an inning or two almost every game this postseason, and velo’s a tick down. They’re all tired, but I bet he’s meaningfully tired.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lynn threw 47 pitches last night.

I believe that’s the most he threw since he threw 51 on June 24 against Tortonto.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Toronto.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

BBTN has a brief digression about Albert's nicknames

but Ozzie was in it, so I don’t understand what just happened

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

the best part about any player making history

is Tim Kurkjian wetting his pants narrating the feature.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

True.

He always looks on the verge of giggling.

by hangingfromatree on Oct 23, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heart the Timmeh.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAIT WHAT

Albert said Laird should have an at-bat and offered his spot????!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

We've been over this:

He was misquoted. He said “Lord”. He offered it to “Lord”. And then tried to hit the ball to heaven. But they heard “Laird”.

by hangingfromatree on Oct 23, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ohhhhh.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was mentioned last night

something about wanting to give him an at-bat, but not offering because he knew Tony would say no.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 23, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

was it liveblogged ?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I quote prophetjohn
actually what he said
was that he thought about doing it, but figured tony would say no

here

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 23, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

SBN has been screwing me over with the Z

comments may or may not load. and then they’re randomly de-highlighted. I gotta go back and just re-read.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should note it was not until the Cardinals came to Texas in the *World Series*

that BBTN managed to get some Cardinals in front of the camera for their features.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

"Playing for Tony La Russa"

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cards never look like they're having fun

except for their hair.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone watching MLBN?

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

...
Planet Earth: Jungles >>> MLBN pre-game

-me

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never gotten around to watching that....

I have it on blu ray.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to watch it

someday…

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jungles is overrated

Caves is where it’s at

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

No wai

All about the Deep Ocean

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

SHORTFIN MOLLY MOTHERFUCKER

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deep Oceans, Great Plains, Caves, Mountains.

In that order. The rest are a blob of Still Very Awesome.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. FOX and they're still showing football.

It’s not like the World Series starts in 20 minutes or anything. So let’s go watch Cam Newton address his teammates in the locker room and Cleveland’s coach and Dallas’s coach…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 23, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

well MLBN isn't much better...

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 23, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need more Bradshaw!

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 23, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

nfl today was horrible

so many craptastic teams in that league

by Wombat x on Oct 23, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Junior!

then he has to answer questions from Buster. bummer. at least he got a showing at the World Series.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

No more Handegg. Lets watch Baseball

Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."

by cj2k on Oct 23, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

oh how convenient

Here is a gamethread for just such an occasion

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 23, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH Albert stumbles on the batting cage mat!!!!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

omfg there was no warning before the footage.

Albert’s ok. still. many curse words.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's gif-worthy.

but that might anger him.

……..wait.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have the gif-making upgrade

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before Sporting KC hired me, they were last in the league

Now, at the end of the season, we are first in the conference

It is what it is

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

"it" being me being a badass, of course

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 23, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Please pitch Albert inside.

"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro

by Toppins on Oct 23, 2011 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

tabbing is tough, yo.

someone managed to break the defragmenter on this machine, and I can’t get people to clear out their data.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 23, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

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