Chris Carpenter's elbow injury not a problem, insist people leaking information about it
As of the Supreme Court's landmark "People v. Not Thinking About Pink Elephants" ruling, your elbow's only not a concern when the official website isn't running headlines like "Chris Carpenter's Elbow Not A Concern" ahead of Game 1 of the World Series. I don't think this kind of thing leaks just because somebody within the organization has decided it would be hilarious to make their own life more difficult, and the Cardinals probably are worried about Carpenter's elbow, seeing as it's got 254 innings on it this year.
That said, this strikes me as different, at least, from the dead-armed Shaun Marcum situation, of which the Cardinals just finished taking considerable advantage. Two of Carpenter's last four outings are complete game shutouts, and three of his last eight; one of his poor postseason outings involved pitching on three days' rest, and the other gave us less to worry about than any of the other Cardinals starts from the NLCS.
Marcum, meanwhile, ends the season having struggled in six of his last seven starts—the complicating factor being that he was excellent in August, so that that pulls back to seven of his last fourteen. When these things go, I guess, they go too quickly to allow for little things like hiding your own arbitrary endpoints.
Nevertheless, if—as Joe Strauss tweets—this was a serious concern starting after Game 3 and continuing as recently as the NLCS's would-be Game 7, and it's less of a concern now than it was then, I'm not ready to panic. Carpenter's stuff looked Carpenterian in Game 3, and thanks to that Game 7 not happening he'll be pitching with extra rest.
If he's not ready to go, I can only hope that the Cardinals find some way to win a game in the postseason while relying heavily on an extremely quick hook and a rested bullpen.
In any case, it would be only fitting if the Cardinals' ace failed to start Game 1—it's happened in each of their last three World Series appearances. In 2006 Carpenter and Suppan both were otherwise occupied, leaving Anthony Reyes to pitch the second-best game of his life—8 innings, two runs, four strikeouts; in 2004 Carpenter was injured and the rest of the staff was basically indistinguishable, leaving Woody Williams to get batted around Game 1 in Boston after Jeff Suppan outdueled Roger Clemens in Game 7.
It went on before that, too—in Game 1 of 1987 22-year-old Joe Magrane got blown out of the Metrodome, leaving John Tudor to start the Game 3 opener. The last time a Cardinals ace started Game 1 of the World Series—that is, the last time the Cardinals won an NLCS in six games—was 1985, when Tudor shut down the Kansas City Royals in Games 1 and 4 before falling apart with everybody else in Game 7.
Chris Carpenter is a great starter—better than Jaime Garcia, better than Kyle Lohse and Edwin Jackson—but baseball teams can win and lose the World Series with incredibly effective aces and intermittently effective rookie starters. If this team can avoid compounding disasters as brilliantly as it has so far, they'll be able to win with an effective Chris Carpenter or a—well, or a moderately effective Chris Carpenter.
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when i read the thread title, i had an internal wager going
how long it was take for this to be said. you win
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
As if Game 1 weren't going to be nerve-wracking enough...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
...and then stays in to pitch a couple innings
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
And then Shelby Miller
puts up four perfect innings and hands the ball to Motte for the save.
"He's a one-tool player. And that tool is his mouth."
BCB post regarding Ryan Theriot
by fightin'_eyerash on Oct 18, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
If I remember right Bob Gibson had a shoulder injury that he never gotten taken care of
Last time he threw out the first pitch he could barely do it from in front of the mound.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was his elbow actually
From all those sliders thrown over 300 inning seasons.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I thought it was from him being old.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
I think he homered to left at Busch II in an old timer’s game when he was 56 years old or something.
Guy was an amazing athlete.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I love that he went to Creighton on scholarship.
But not for baseball.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
There are people that are just good at everything.
Bob Gibson is one of those people.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Oct 18, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Have you seen his BABIP?
Was it bad luck or should we look at his batted ball profile?
2011 - Year of Our Berk
If the NBA cancels the season
we should sign Chris Paul, throw him in at AA and see how he does.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
If there's one guy in the NBA I'd like to see play baseball,
it would have to be LeBron James.
But I think he’d probably make far more money as a 6’8" WR in the NFL. Think Calvin Johnson but bigger AND faster.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
He would be impossible to defend on a football field.
You’d just send him down the sideline and throw it up to him, much like teams did with Randy Moss for years.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Except taller, with a better vertical and more physical
There couldn’t be a single play when he was single covered.
Not afraid to nitpick
KInda contributes to my theory
that the modern basketball player is the best overall athlete in the world.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
The modern LeBron James is
Not sure about the rest of them. Just being really tall is a huge part of what makes a good basketball player, but just being tall has very little to do with almost any other sport other than being a jump-ball-catching receiver in FB.
I’d bet the NFL guys would do better in more track and field events for what it’s worth.
Not afraid to nitpick
maybe marginally better in sprints, but
I doubt they have the stamina of a basketball player.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Football players can take way more a beating
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Rugby union players are particularly extraordinary athletes.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Goddamn british
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Aussie Rules football
has to be one of the most brutal games in the world, and they run all over the place.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 18, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, Blue Monk - good to hear from you. rugby is . . .
. . . on in every pub in Thailand. You need to come this way to enjoy properly. ..
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I doubt it
but on the flip side, how many 5’8" cornerbacks could defend LeBron, much less tackle him. He’d be impossible to take down after he caught the ball over their head with one of those giant hands.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I believe that LeBron has the fastest baseline-to-baseline time in the NBA
and covers that distance in an absurdly low number of steps.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No way
Moss is one of the fastest receivers ever, LeBron is just insanely fast for being 6’8. There’s a difference.
Not afraid to nitpick
Heh, yeah my friend could "run" about a 4.5 as a senior in high school
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Moss ran a 4.28 or something when he worked out for the Vikings in '97.
I would guess that LeBron would run sub 4.4 though if he trained for it.
He’s the fastest baseline to baseline player in the NBA.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
He's seriously a freak of nature.
Also would be fun to see him play end on FG blocks.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
I really doubt it. Calvin Johnson's body control and hands are extraordinary.
I suspect that Lebron would be a good WR if he put time into it, but I think there is absolutely no way that he’d walk onto an NFL field with a few weeks (or months) practice and be elite.
You mean,
like Antonio Gates was? 6 months of practice and he turned into an elite TE, which is a much harder position to play than WR.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Ah, 1 example at a different position.
My bad.
Also, HARDER? No way. It’s a different position with different people attempting to cover you. It’s certainly not harder in the skill set we’re discussing.
TE is a harder position to play than WR
because it involves more blocking. A TE also works the middle of the field more often, which is more difficult than running go routes down the sidelines or post patterns. It’s not that WRs don’t work the middle. They certainly do. It’s just less often than TEs.
I think that fourstick’s point was that Antonio Gates had very little football experience, was drafted by the Chargers, practiced for 6 months, and was an elite TE in the NFL, a position more difficult to play than WR. If Gates, a lesser athlete than LeBron, can do it, LeBron seems a fair bet to become elite as a WR.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
JIMMY GRAHAM!
One NCAA season of football after playing basketball for Miami. Now an elite TE.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
More TE's!
Anyhoo, you all go ahead with your wild and crazy ideas. Bunch of wacko yahoos with no class. That’s what you are!
I’m off to the post-office and I might even pick some flowers on the way. GOOD DAY, SIRS.
Because most basketball players
converted to football have a 40 time too high to play WR. So they are converted to TE instead.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
For whatever reason
Power Forward to Tight End appears to be the easiest cross sports switches.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
It's a shame 6'5 Usain Bolt
Probably hadn’t seen American Football until he was like 20
Not afraid to nitpick
Yeah
I would think that guy like that (or even a very skilled soccer player) would have a more difficult time making the transition though, simply because catching the ball with your hands is something that’s difficult to learn how to do if you’ve never done it.
From what I remember, guys like James Jett always had shitty hands and dropped a lot of passes.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I gather all that, but the skill-set is different.
TE may well be a more difficult position (I don’t think it is, but that’s not really the point), but the things that make it so are not the skill-sets we’re discussing, so the Gates example doesn’t really illustrate anything for me. Bob Hayes might be a better example, but it was a different game back then.
Anyway, I think it’s clear that LeBron has the physical tools to be a frighteningly good WR, but I think it’s kind of goofy to assume he’d be dominating immediately.
(also, it’s worth noting that while Gates has become a good blocker, he was pretty bad his first couple of years).
I don't think he'd be immediately dominant
but I think he would be dominant in a short amount of time.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think you could line him up at WR immediately
and just chuck it deep to him 6-8 times a game. Basically what the Packers do with Jordy Nelson.
Just the threat alone would change how the defense has to defend your offense, just like how someone like Moss or TO changes how you have to defend things.
I guess my point is that we’ve never seen an athlete as freakish as LeBron in terms of size, speed, and strength play the position. Moss is the closest example that we have, and he’s FOUR inches shorter.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
It's not just one example, it's the one example of a guy who did it in a short amount of time
Marcus Pollard, Tony Gonzalez (although he played football in college), and Jimmy Graham are all good examples of basketball players becoming TE.
Why? Mostly because they were undersized power forwards who couldn’t play SF due to quickness and lack of shooting ability at the next level, but those guys are typically the perfect build for a TE.
And, yes, as bgh points out, the TE position is much more difficult to learn because you have to learn a larger passing route tree and also know motion and blocking assignments. Whereas a Randy Moss like receiver (which is how I envision LeBron) basically runs 4-5 routes and lines up as a split end on 85% of snaps. It’s really not a hard position to learn and if you’re a freak athlete and built like a truck, like LeBron, you could be extremely effective in a very short amount of time.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i could buy this...
we don’t see basketball players go become WR because you have to be fast and generally a freak athlete.. And if you possess these skills, you are going to be successful in the NBA, so why switch?
Of course:
And if you possess these skills, you are going to be successful in the NBA, so why switch?
But if there’s no NBA, why not give it a shot?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
because the incidence
of career-ending injury is probably higher in the nfl than it is in the nba. that’s a total shot in the dark (and one based on a guess), but i think the reason more people don’t try is because football is perceived as more dangerous.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
That's his job.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And are you saying that LeBron isn't
as skilled with body control and hands as Megatron? I’d have to disagree with that — if anything, he’s MORE skilled as he plays at his size on a smaller court where body control and hands are more important than they are on the gridiron.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
They are utterly different types of body control (and hands)
And if you’re saying that ANYONE has better football body control and hands than Calvin Johnson, I just don’t see how that’s anything but rather wild conjecture.
they had some interesting graphics about him on MNF last week
gave him the same treatment as Justin Blackmon in this video. His vertical combined with standing reach was 12.5 ft…include his wingspan, etc and his “catchable zone” dwarfed Blackmon’s
I don't think so
Do you think that Calvin Johnson could go drop 50 in an NBA game?
He’s a great athlete, but you’re basically doing LeBron and guys like Blake Griffin an incredible disservice by saying that a guy who basically runs, jumps, and catches a ball has better body control than those guys do.
I really don’t even know what “football body control” is. I imagine it’s a combination of footwork, upper body agility, and proprioception while airborne. Honestly, I’d be surprised if there’s a single player in the NFL who is better at those things than someone like LeBron, Kobe, Carmelo, or any great NBA player, for the reasons I listed a few posts up. They basically work on footwork, body control, and positioning far more than someone like Johnson would. The difference would be straight line speed, which Johnson probably has.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I think hands is the much better argument from fink's camp
ability to catch 50 mph footballs or tracking a ball over your shoulder or making one-handed grabs is much different than catching a basketball. We have years of observations about the elite quality of Megatron’s hands in this sense – we don’t have anything of the sort for LeBron.
I think if you have soft hands, that translates
Not to mention, it’s not like he’s NEVER played football before. He was a pretty good football player his first two years in high school before he stopped playing due to the threat of injury.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
true, but guys like braylon edwards have played their
whole lives and still suffer from the drops. I don’t know how we can say LeBron would have better hands than Edwards after only seeing him on the court.
Plus, it’s an easy case to make that LeBron was great in high school because it really was men amongst boys. He could drop 25% of his targets and still score 5x a game.
I absolutely do not think Calvin Johnson could drop even 20 in an NBA game.
and that’s sort of my point.
1. Freakish athleticism only gets you so far
2. While some of the skills are similar between the 2 sports, at the elite professional level, they are fine-tuned to such a degree (over thousands of hours of practice), that their similarities are dwarfed by the differences in precision and technique.
I think that you're
relating two different levels of skill here:
- Being a successful basketball player requires a combination of athleticism, dexterity, and special skills that relate to only basketball (i.e. shooting) as well as the ability to play within the structure of an offense.
- Being a successful WR requires little more than freak athletic ability and a cursory knowledge of a pro football offense.
If you’re a ridiculously good athlete, you have a much better shot at becoming an All-Pro WR than becoming and All-NBA basketball player, because the former doesn’t require a special set of skills that have to be honed over time.
The transition to baseball from other sports is similar.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I guess I just disagree with this:
Being a successful WR requires little more than freak athletic ability and a cursory knowledge of a pro football offense.
That said, I’d be fascinated to see Bron-Bron give it a shot!
That's fine
it’s a difference of opinion. I just know enough coaches at the D-1 level to know that they recruit athletes of this type specifically because they believe that they can turn them into excellent WR.
And LeBron is probably in the top 1% of the type of guys that they would look for in terms of athletic profile.
FWIW — I still think Calvin Johnson would be the better receiver overall. I just think LeBron would just completely change how you would have to defend an offense due to the threat he poses not only in the middle of the field, but especially at the goalline.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I'm thinking more Blake Griffin.
Imagine the tight end that guy could be.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I'd single cover him all the time
Because what are two 6’2"/6’3" guys going to do that you can’t accomplish with one?
I mean, he’d be impossible to defend. Impossible.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
You'd have to jam him at the line and then have your 6'3 guy play the deep ball
Not afraid to nitpick
Even then, wouldn't you just throw it up 8 times a game?
He’s going to catch 4 and probably get PI another 2 times.
It’s like Billick used to say regarding Moss in 1998: We’re going to test the other defense deep at least 6-8 times a game, because Randy’s going to catch at least 2 and we’re going to get PI at least 2 other times.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Oh yeah
I’m just saying he would catch 6/8 with 2 PIs if you just single covered him playing off coverage. You’d have to jam him and hope you got a pass rush.
Not afraid to nitpick
Honestly, I don't know how you would defend him
I would guess a rolled safety over top and a very speedy linebacker or strong safety jamming him. I can’t think of a single corner in the league who could conceivably jam LeBron at the line of scrimmage.
It would be really fun to ask Rex Ryan or Bill Belichick this question and see what the answer would be.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Also he could be the designated field goal blocker
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by jd is legend on Oct 18, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
here we go:
http://www.rotosavants.com/2009/09/was-michael-jordan-babip-victim.html
I knew I’d read something about this.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
How much of this was due to him hitting a ton of ground balls though?
Clearly he had issues making contact — look at all the strikeouts. Do I think he might have made it had he continued to play baseball all through college? Possibly, but there have been other uber-talented athletes who’ve failed at that too.
Gibson could probably have played professional basketball had he wanted to pursue it, but baseball promised more money at the time with fewer hurdles to jump over, so that’s the way that he went. He’s stated this on different occasions over the years.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
It's probably easier to go from professional baseball to another sport
than it is to go from any other sport to professional baseball.
Hitting is really tough.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I'd probably pick golf really
The difference between being PGA quality and not PGA quality is almost nothing, and that Almost Nothing just can’t be made up if you haven’t played all. the. time. for the last 15 years of your life. Most everyone can physically hit the same shots, consistency (FJM ALERT!) is the problem.
A really good athlete can still be a bad hitter but do enough elsewhere to justify their existence on an MLB roster (Deion Sanders).
Not afraid to nitpick
Deion wasn't ever really a bad hitter
Go look at his numbers: from ‘91-’97 he was a fairly productive centerfielder — probably league average at the plate if you’re adjusting for position. I think had he spent all his time playing baseball, he could have been very similar to Kenny Lofton, another two sport college athlete who picked baseball over basketball.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
FWIW
I agree on golf. The difference from being a 10 handicap to being a scratch golfer is gigantic and the difference from being a scratch golfer to being a Tour player is an order of magnitude more difficult.
This is why I consider Tiger Woods to be the greatest athlete of the last 15 years, just due to his utter dominance of the the PGA Tour the likes of which we’ve never seen. Nobody has won that much over that period of time in the history of the sport. It just hasn’t been done.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Oh god
here comes the x isn’t a “sport” or y isn’t an “athlete” argument. Bad VEB, bad! Get back on track.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
on track, like those non-athlete, non-sport playing NASCAR drivers, mirite?
by all4tookie on Oct 18, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
PLAYING PING PONG WITH GOLF CLUBS ON TOP OF A FORMULA ONE CAR ISN'T A SPORT
…but maybe it should be
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I know, I know
I’m just comparing the dominance of those activities with the peers on those sports.
You could make a case that Messi is the best athlete on the planet right now using this same logic — I don’t know of anyone on the pitch who is even comparable to him in terms of what he’s able to do and how he changes matches.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Well
Phil Taylor is probably the best at what he does. I’d love to be a millionaire based off a bar game.
Not afraid to nitpick
I can see that argument
However, are the prizes for dart throwing large enough at the median level that someone could make enough money to consider it a profession without considering careers in other sports?
That would be my argument to refute that.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I honestly think you have to consider Bolt in this conversation as well
what he’s done in terms of smashing the WRs in the sprints by the magnitude he has, has literally never been done in any other sport to the best of my knowledge. He ran a time in the 100m I thought it’d take another half-century or so before anyone got close to…
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Bolt has no practice catching
throwing or otherwise handling a ball in any sense. He’s also not trained in any sort of plyometric way to change directions or use his upper body strength. All he is trained to do is run in a straight line for a very short distance at a VERY high rate of speed.
I maintain my position that a basketbally player (and maybe a water polo player) are the most balanced, well rounded athletes out there.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Rugby and soccer players
at least need to be in that conversation. Also, decathletes
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
gymnasts
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
No idea. But it was A ball, so who really cares?
I just find it funny that people focus on his failure to make it as a baseball player while ignoring other players who were actually incredible two (or three) sport athletes like Deion Sanders (who probably could have stolen 600 bases had he played baseball full time), Brian Jordan (All Star OF, All Pro Safety), and Bo Jackson (who was also 0.03 of a second from making the ’84 Olympic team as a sprinter).
Not to mention guys like Antonio Gates, Frank Thomas, and Ricky Williams who were awesome one or two sport athletes in college and wound up playing different sports in the pros.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I think it's because he was Michael F. Jordan
and he attempted a second sport as a 31 year old.
I always had a soft spot for Jackson, Sanders and Jordan because they played two sports.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
Taking a 14 (I think) year layoff playing a sport and then not totally embarrasing yourself
at any professional level is pretty damn impressive.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
especially in baseball
which involves a very particular kind of hand-eye coordination, pitch recognition, and reflex, rather than just pure athleticism.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Then again if I was Michael F. Jordan, I don't think baseball would be too tough for me either
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 19, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
one of my favorite baseball moments
in this game, the Secret Weapon struck out Deion Sanders…looking.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL199105080.shtml
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
broken leg, separated shoulder, dislocated elbow
who cares? BGDGAF.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
in someone's ribs! Thinking of pain, I had the coice of watching the Cards-Boohooers in Thai or Sutcliffe. Tough call since I don't understand either one!
Trying to keep dry in Bangkok is difficult enough without having to fight sickness and tears brought on by Sutcliff’es drivel.
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man, i wish we had Waino right now
i wish the necessity for TJ surgery would have been recognized at the end of last season instead of blaming the problems on sleeping on the arm and having to wait till spring…
is it time for baseball yet…
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
he didn't need surgery this time last year
it didn’t completely tear until this spring.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
well, damn it, they should've used the time machine to go forward
and find out if it was going to be a problem.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
or they could have had him do like Punto
just go in the cage and let it eat and see what happens.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
his whole arm would've flown off
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I could get behind this
prepare Carp for surgery
check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos
I disagree
I think we take out their appendixes
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that needs to be on the viva el bar menu
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
we already put that forth as a Cortisone Shot
along with the Soft Tossing Lefty.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
is there a fanpost on this stuff?
i had some other good ideas.
….
ecks on the beach. apple(sauce) martini.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
not yet
the old, old discussions are duly labeled though, so I think they’re relatively easy to call back up.
then again, I think the old, old discussions also determined that ClemsonGirl would make for terrible waitstaff, if memory serves.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Is the Soft Tossing Lefty some devilish concoction that gets you totally smashed without realizing it?
Kind of the Cardinals version of a really big Long Island Iced Tea?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
It's exactly like a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster
but without the olive.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's a green'd comment
take bottle
pour out a shot
drink the bottle
drink the shot
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Great drink at a baseball theme bar. Ingredients?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
if they'd let him have his last start, he probably would've
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
By what time must the rosters be announced?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
If it's the same rules as the first two rounds, tomorrow morning.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Gah! The anticipation!
Please Sanchez!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It would be great if the bench were the same as the NLCS
and Sanchez replaced McClellan, wouldn’t it?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
all the hints are there
Westie replaced McClellan, Skiperdoodle replaces Chambers (most likely). There were even a couple of articles that questioned whether it might be better to start Westbrook instead of Jackson in the Ballpark.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I think those would be bad decisions.
I suspect Westbrook would be used about as often as he and McClellan were used in the first two rounds which is to say hardly at all. Even if Sanchez is unable to throw on consecutive days, an inning from him in Game 2, Game 3, and Game 5 could be instrumental given TLR’s new bullpen management strategy.
As for Schumaker, he brings nothing to the table that isn’t already there with Punto and Theriot. There is no reason for him to be on the roster, especially given how many injuries he is currently dealing with. A healthy Chambers is a much more useful player, in my opinion, because of his speed and defense. Schumaker was slow and a bad defender before his injuries. I don’t want to find out what a lame Schumaker looks like running the bases and in the field.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I agree with your evaluations
I still bet both moves are made :(
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
and i agree that's probably what moves will be made, but it doesn't make any sense.
all of our starters faltered in the LCS. jackson only pitched TWO innings. and yet, we never saw k-mac but for the first game when he was awful. if you’re not going to throw those types when you have 7 innings to cover, when are you? clearly we have enough bullpen pieces to avoid the need for terrible long relievers
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
Plus Chambers has a Dave Roberts pinch-steal moment in him.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The only person on the 40-man that I would sub into a game solely to steal a base is...
Tyler Greene. Commence kicking the horse skeleton, everyone. Or is it now a horse zombie?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
no recent evidence of life,
I’d call it a skeleton
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
How silly of me.
There must be flesh and brain left to become a zombie, right?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
we might be overthinki–
braaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiinnnnnssss
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
completely agree with the sanchez part.
and brian stull on 101 was saying sanchez has been throwing back to back and is good to go FWIW.
Westbrook over Jackson would literally* be the worst decision ever.
*(not actually literally)
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
I’d go with that whole idea to Kil all the Jews, or maybe that one about making black people slaves, or even the crusades….
Man, people can make some stupid decisions.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
surprise!politics
but seriously, he’s British. it would be funnier if you’d picked something like the Opium Wars.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't understand the argument for Westbrook over Jackson.
Westbrook is a groundball pitcher but he gives up a lot of homeruns.
Jackson has a much better FIP (3.55 to 4.25), better HR/FB (8.2% to 11.4%) and better HR/9 (.72 to .79).
There’s no good argument to start Westbrook over Jackson and, no, I don’t consider a good argument to be “But Jackson just gave up some home runs last game!”
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 18, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't either
I’m just sayin’ I read that.
As I noted above, I don’t really think either choice (Skip over Chambers, Westbrook over KMac) is the proper choice to make, but that’s probably what is going to happen. Twere it me, I’d drop KMac and put Sanchez on there (health provided) and keep Chambers (we don’t really need three 2B do we?).
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Since the team really has NO second basemen, the question begs logic. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Skip over Chambers seems fine.
He’s almost certainly a better hitter than Chambers, and I’m not really convinced we need a backup CF who hits from the left-hand side. Both Skip and Chambers will (presumably) merely be used for an occasional pinch-hit (or perhaps a defensive swap in the OF) so I’d just pick the best hitter.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 19, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
"but jackson just got hit by a car walking across the street to the stadium"
Grit != flat out sucking.
my thoughts exactly
Reading the PD’s pro-Westbrook piece I was all like yeah he gets a lot of grounders but when they ain’t grounders they’s often dingers.
Unless Duncan is certain he’s got Westbrook sufficiently pixie-dusted up I’d rather see Jackson.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 18, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean there is probably some point
Where an extreme ground ball disparity coinciding with an extreme home run hitting team can bridge a .5 – 1 run ERA projection gap. However, I doubt that is the case with Westbrook and Jackson.
Why would we care about HR/FB? Westbrook doesn’t give up a lot of homers because he gets so many groundballs, obviously. And HR/FB is mostly random variation.
Westbrook has a career .8 HR/9 compared to .99 for Jackson.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
WHY YOU NO BASEBALL YET?
talk to me when you baseball
by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
maybe if we all called the MLB offices and begged
they would make there be baseball today
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Chris Carpenter's elbow is not an issue
because there is no one else. Carp has to pitch game one as long as a medical examiner has not declared him dead. The manager has no decision to make. Thus, saying there is no issue with Chris Carpenter’s elbow is quite different from saying Chris Carpenter has no soreness in his elbow (or that he is completely healthy).
I’d still like to see Lynn in the WS rotation. Without Carp, we are toast but even if the Cards win game 1 behind Carp who else in that rotation can win a game? Maybe Garcia in St. Louis. But we need one other solid start from somebody and that somebody is going to have to make that start in Texas. I don’t think it would be wise to count on Jackson or Lohse. Lynn is the next best option. Double down on the gamble by replacing Lynn in the bullpen with Eduardo Sanchez. Jackson (who is replaced by Lynn in the rotation) replaces McClellan in the bullpen.
Jackson is a better starter than Lynn, IMO.
Even granting the argument that Lynn has better starter stuff — which I don’t — when’s the last time Lynn pitched more than two innings at a stretch?
Well parsed on the Carp stuff, also.
It seems to me that there is a big difference
between the report in the first paragraph of the article:
Cardinals right-hander Chris Carpenter, the club’s probable starter for Wednesday’s Game 1 of the World Series on FOX at 7:05 p.m. CT, has dealt with some soreness in his right elbow recently.
And the report later in the article of:
According to another club source, the discomfort was located in the area of Carpenter’s triceps muscle.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
So, he might just have a sore arm.
Seems like that would be par for the course for just about any starting pitcher this time of year though.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
No kidding
My non-medical-background prediction is “triceps tendonitis”. This is a non-story.
Not afraid to nitpick
If it was a sore muscle after the Game 3 start
and it is no longer sore, I agree with Mo that it is a non-issue. As you state, a pitcher having a sore muscle in his arm isn’t anything to get too worked up over.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He nervously said to himself.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Oct 18, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm heartened by the fact that someone went on the record stating it is a triceps issue,
even if it was anonymous.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Me too, except that is where his chronic nerve problem is located, no?
It’s probably just related to inflammation. She reassuringly said to herself.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Oct 18, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think this is someone in the organization "feeding the troll"
The troll, of course, being Joe Strauss.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
The article I linked to was on stlcardinals.com.
It seemed to me that this source provided the triceps information to rebut Strauss’s article in the P-D.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I've come to acknowledge that Strauss mostly has valid information
and is just a complete ass about showing off his insider access and hating on people for enjoying the game of baseball in a different way than him. It would be nice if the information came from a nicer person, but I’ll take it for what it is.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I agree.
But I like the idea of them giving him information that he runs with only to discredit his information after it’s printed.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
I wish he wouldn't make people stay up so late for his non-stories, though.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
I think they publish the stories that appear in the print edition
only after that edition has gone to print, to make sure that they are the same. I don’t think Strauss has any control over it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He could just tweet it.
When Bernie or Goold have news they don’t string it out all night. They just report it.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
That's a good point.
But I wonder what the P-D’s policy is on that type of thing. I may be wrong but it seems that most of Goold’s tweets are of the gameday news variety that won’t appear in the printed paper.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yes, Strauss is quite the dick
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he tends to report things because he can,
but not always thinking about whether he should. And I think the thing that drives his decision making process is the giant ego that you allude to. “I am Joe Strauss, LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY!”. He’s not a terribly good writer, even for a glorified stringer, so he has to make his dollar based on scoops and incendiary journalism.
There are a lot of times where he has good information, reports it, and then speculates on the ramifications of the information instead of just reporting it. I don’t like this type of editorializing. This is why I refuse to read his articles at length.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you say that enough times
you might be able to convince yourself.
do you mean triceptarops
hahahaha
gosh, all the possible triceratops/triceps jokes and no one has ever photoshopped a triceratops into a triceps before? ugh, some people.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
hell of a place to have an elbow. No wonder he is sore. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Jackson scares the shit out of me every time he takes the ball.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
He doesn't really scare me
as much as bore the shit out of me.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Edwin is a flyball pitcher
with less velo than Lynn and without a curve. Everything Edwin throws is hard. I am very much uneasy about Edwin Jackson starting against that lineup in Texas. IMHO Lynn has a better chance of giving us a quality start than Jackson in that situation.
Groundballer vs. Flyballer is an interesting argument.
Lynn is an extreme groundball pitcher who would probably do better in the Ballpark at Arlington than Jackson if Lynn had been starting all season. That’s the problem with your proposal in my mind. Lynn hasn’t started since mid-summer. He also had a sixty-day layoff due to his oblique injury. An experiment in stretching him out is not something to do in what could be a pivotal game of the World Series.
Jackson has higher average FB velocity (94.7) than Lynn (93.4), though, and this is with the majority of Lynn’s fastballs being thrown in relief. There is no reason to expect Lynn to throw with a higher fastball velocity while starting than Jackson does.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
REIFER!!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
If Reifer ever makes it to the big club
those jersey are going be flying off the shelves! BTW, I was very disappointed to hear he pronounces his name “rifer” with a hard “i”.
German 101 (assuming his name is Germanic)
on ie and ei words, you pronounce the last letter in English. That is, Reifer = rifer, Riefer = reefer
I hope Reifer makes the Cardinals roster at some point.
I’m really, really looking forward to the VEB photoshopped Reefer Madness poster.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
DATIVE!
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure what dative is but it sounds like something you'd know nothing about
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FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 18, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
He knows about it indirectly.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 14 recs
I took Russian once. Russian has, like, five cases. I was doing OK until we got to the genitive, and then I got my ass kicked.
Is Russian, genitive owns you.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
this was nicely done.
and i do know a lot about dating…indirectly. it’s true.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Both you and pegasus fail to come up with a quick Jewish joke.
I can only assume that Fritz is out to lunch right now or he would have been on this.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Damn it. Would have gone with Hasselhoff.
Already reached my Hitler joke quota for the day.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
nach ein mal bier, bitte. ..
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Don't hide behind those caps, I see your eyes
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree it is a risky
move in that Lynn has only two MLB starts … but Cards have to gamble in my view because their rotation is just so thin without Wainwright (and Carp running on fumes). On should expect an Edwin Jackson start in Texas to resemble an Edwin Jackson start in Milwaukee. No a pretty sight. If Garcia wasn’t so awful on the road, I’d say throw Jackson in game 2 @ Busch and Garcia in Game 3 in Arlington. But you want to give the team the best chance to win the two homes games and Carp / Garcia are our best hope. Now we are down to trying to steal a game in Arlington. I’d gamble on Lynn. And I’d gamble even further by putting Sanchez on the WS roster.
I understand where you're coming from,
but I think it’s more likely that they throw Westbrook, team leader in GB rate at Texas, in an attempt to steal a game.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
An Edwin Jackson start in Milwaukee, eh?
On August 30, Edwin Jackson did the following in Milwaukee:
7 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K. 91 pitches. .331 WPA.
NOT A PRETTY SIGHT INDEED
Edwin's last start in Milwaukee
2.0 ip / 4 er / 2 so / 3 hrs
Ugly. Expect more of the same in Arlington if he goes there.
Yeah hey, just look at the most recent data point!
IRREFUTABLE CONCLUSIONS ENSUE
Truly, we’ve advanced the science of baseball today.
Who said anything about irrefutable? I sure didn't.
You cherry picked one data point. I did the same. Here is another one for you. August 3, 2011. Edwin Jackson start in Milwaukee. He gives three HRs to Casey McGehee. Here is Edwin’s line from that game: 7.0 ip / 14 hits / 10 runs / 8 ERs / 1 bb / 6 SOs / 4 hrs.
No, it's not a promise
I am saying that I think the probabilities are in favor of Jackson getting hit hard and not making it past the 3rd inning.
And I'm saying the
probabilities of Lance Lynn being better than that are miniscule. Go look at Lynn’s two major league starts. Jackson has more successful starts in Milwaukee than LYNN HAS MAJOR LEAGUE STARTS.
I can’t even believe we’re having this conversation really: Who in their right mind shelves their 2nd or 3rd best starter for a guy who’s coming off an injury and hasn’t started a game in three months?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Sigh... it's just... when you look at the data, you're wrong.
You’re saying that it’s more likely than not that Jackson doesn’t get out of the third. That is simply incorrect. You know how many times Jackson failed to go more than three this year?
It’s one. One time. It was Sunday night.
That is why people are arguing with you. You’re presenting one extreme case – Bad EJax – as the most likely case.
That one Brewers game he had to tough it out because the bullpen was spent.
He probably would’ve been pulled early that game. Then he also wouldn’t have been raked over the coals by McGehee. So that performance should be taken with a measure of salt.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
I still can't stand watching him pitch.
It’s like watching cement set.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I'm having trouble not being snarky here.
Is there a chance Jackson blows up, yes. But you’re totally disregarding the significantly non-zero chance that he’s excellent.
All professional pitchers blow up sometimes, and all are excellent sometimes. Based on the total accumulated data, rather than cherry-picked individual games, the evidence says that Edwin Jackson is a pretty good starting pitcher. That is all.
I'm going to be that guy who quotes himself
but only because I started a comment that was essentially the same as this paragraphs from the pre-Game 2 of the NLCS main post.
There is no debating that these are but a small sample of Jackson as a pitcher; nonetheless, they offer a window into the potential outcomes on this day in October. With his worrisome peripherals Jackson could very well be slugged out of the game, the victim of a quick hook the manager did not afford him back on August 3. Then again, a smoke-and-mirrors performance in the Duncanian style a la August 30 is entirely possible as well. Most likely, however, seems to be the middle type of performance, one not unlike his Game 4 outing against the Phillies. Around six innings, about three runs allowed, and a chance for the Cards’ bats and bullpen to win the game.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I could live with that.
He’s going to give up runs, just hope that it’s not too many.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
your best-case scenario is telling: smoke-and-mirrors.
Interesting description. I cannot believe the guy ever threw a no-hitter. I don’t want to discount it as luck, but when I watch him pitch, it’s baffling he was ever that good, even just for one game. He rarely has a dominating inning.
It took him about 200 pitches to get that NH, iirc.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think it was more like 150ish
still though.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
In Arlington you can probably double the above numbers and cut the innings in half. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
This
Not to mention, Lynn has been an excellent 2 inning option in the bullpen for the latter half of the season when he was healthy. There’s no reason to believe the Jackson would be as good in that role as Lynn has been, and you’d be losing use of Lynn in multiple games by starting him in any of those games.
Lynn might be more valuable to our club as a 2 inning reliever who can throw in multiple games than as a starting pitcher who only throws in one game.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I gather this is kind of how the Rangers are using Ogando.....
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
If they replace EJax's start its going to be with Westbrook
not Lynn. Lynn is not stretched out at all.
Lynn has also thrown two deeply mediocre seasons in AAA in a row
whilst Jackson was putting up nearly 4 WAR in both years in MLB. Lynn’s also started precisely two games in the majors and hasn’t pitched in a starting role for about 3 months.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 19, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Why swap a guy who's been a starter in the big leagues for 6 seasons and hasn't come out of the bullpen since 2005
with a guy who’s had all of 2 starts in the big leagues and has been great coming out of the bullpen?
Why do it? What is the rationale behind pulling a 4 WAR starter from your rotation in favor of a guy who’s had two starts his entire career?
Seriously, if Tony La Russa was playing this angle we’d all be calling him a fucking crazy lunatic. So what’s your excuse?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
In fairness, some of us call Tony a fucking crazy lunatic no matter what.
It’s one of our endearing foibles.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
The OP has made this point in two different threads now.
I’d just like him to back up this opinion with some evidence of why I should expect Lance Lynn to be a better starting pitcher than Edwin Jackson, despite all the evidence to the contrary that this is actually true.
They both have similar stuff — Jackson throws harder, Lynn sinks the ball more. The only discernable reason why you would do this is so that you have a guy who gets more ground balls pitching at Arlington. Which is a fine opinion to have, it just doesn’t trump the other 37 reasons why you WOULDN’T do it. Some people just hate Edwin Jackson around here: They forget all his good starts and focus on his bad starts. Well, Carp doesn’t get a chance to throw his shutout in Game 5 of the NLDS unless Jackson pitches well in Game 4. So let’s remember that.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Hey, I'm with you. I was just being wry.
Much as I might wish he hadn’t cost us Colby, Jackson undeniably improved our starting rotation.* He’s probably the third best starter on our staff right now, 2nd if we’re on the road.
*Let’s please not get into a “there would/should/could have been other moves made” debate. Just accept that Carp-Garcia-Jackson-Lohse-Westy is better than Carp-Garcia-Lohse-Westy-McClellan. And that Colby wasn’t going to get the playing time under TLR to become what we all wanted him to be.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
If you're replacing a starter in this series
it should be Kyle Lohse, who’s yet to have a solid outing in the postseason. But I think upsetting the apple cart right now is going to do more harm than good.
I DO think that it might not be a bad idea to add Westbrook onto the roster if Sanchez simply isn’t available due to his arm problems. But I think either of those guys is better than McClellan at this point.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
is it crazy to think that Lohse might be due for at least a QS?
Lohse last pitched on the 14th, right? And he’s scheduled to start Game 3 in TX, on the 22nd. Let’s hope the extra rest does him some good.
It’ll be the biggest game in his career, by far.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
That's what I was hoping
for NLCS game 4. Maybe this time it work.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want a QS, period.
mother of…!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
By that rationale
Our entire starting staff, including Jake Westbrook, should be due for a QS.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
a team "source" said that it was more of a triceps problem
then an actual elbow problem. This probably means that he stubbed his toe.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Dr. Paletta has booked the room
and prepared his team for a full cranial removal.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 18, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
While watching Hannibal Lecter. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
hypothetical
you have two choices:
1) Carp can pitch in the WS at full strength, but misses all of 2012
2) Carp can’t pitch but is healthy all of 2012.
I’d really have to think long and hard about that, I reckon.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
1, definitely
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
For my selfish reasons only, of course
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
1)
You never know the future: Always taken what you can now. Plus, how many chances do you get to win a World Series? The Cardinals have had the best player in baseball for 10 years and this is only their third WS appearance.
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
on those terms, (2)
Since the Devil could easily interpret (1) as “1 IP, 5 ER, collapses on mound with a triceratops”.
I insist on 2 CGSO wins, if I’m trading 2012. And make sure you clarify that he’ll be back (and well rested) in ’13.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
If it's 2 CGSO wins, obviously you choose 1.
TBH, two guaranteed quality starts, I’d probably chose 1. With no guarantees other than health, I dunno. I think it’s really close. The dropoff from Carp to Lynn/Rzep/Miller/whatever next year is probably a good 3 wins. The dropoff from Carp to Lynn or Westy in the WS is maybe a drop of, what, 5% chance of winning? Certainly no more than 10%. It’s close IMO.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but the dropoff in world series odds for 2012 is less than that I'm sure
Which is why 1 would make sense. However, World Series odds probably shouldn’t be the only barometer.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
If you asked Carp, I bet he'd say 'gimme the fucking ball'.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
2 easily
Maybe on a percentage basis it would make sense to burn Carp now, but next year is a long time to be without Carp.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually thought about posting this question earlier today.
Though I was going to phrase it as 2 CG SO in the series and nothing in 2012 or no series and healthy 2012.
Hive mind stuff.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 18, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
For 2 CGSO in the world series, I would swap all of Carp's 2012 AND 2013.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 19, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And honestly, even if an ME declared him dead.
He’d be good for a couple of innings.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
relevant
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oh yeah! Zombie Squad says they'll be on tv soonish.
Oct 25 as part of docu on zombie impact.
http://zombiehunters.org/
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
all the good zombies will be giving blood that day
Bad people do good things, pt 2.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I'll just stick this here
“Coming out of that start in Milwaukee, I had 200-something innings, 4,000 pitches or whatever. and it’s the middle of October,” Carpenter said. “Everybody has got soreness, and everybody has got aches. I got some treatment on my elbow. My elbow is fine.”
the reporters then burst into flames
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't know if reporters are ballsy or stupid.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
it's especially amusing to watch the naked fear in Tim Kurkjian's eyes.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
don't get me wrong, I'm a KurkFan
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Kurk's one of the few that doesn't make me want to kick the cat.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
ABSOLUTE MUST-READ
Bojan Koprivica with a GREAT piece on catcher defense. Seriously groundbreaking stuff.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/another-one-bites-the-dust/
by all4tookie on Oct 18, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
thanks for the link
that’s a superb article
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
that's sexy.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
mama molina is going to be proud and sad at the same time
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
*Literally*

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Did his good hair come back yet? I haven't been able to keep up with the season.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
I think most Cards fans missed last Thursday,
but it was the new hair a couple weeks ago.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Caught up on TV last night.
Thursday’s Parks & Rec was very funny.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
still mussy. but slightly less mussy than the first episode
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Alex Avila everyone!
Few surprises here, but excellent work. Yadi is a good catcher, Jorge Posada is a crappy catcher.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Jeez.
You goddamned nerds need to get out onto the field and play the damn game. Hippies.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
great article
I’ll read it again when i have more time.
also, in the following graph, you can see the knuckleball giving its finger to all catchers

i have more bad news
BBTN’s set up a coffee table around the outline of old Busch Stadium.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Is this trolling?
I hope not… I’m just a sucker for these kinds of games. Someone needed to complete the demolition of the Brewers…
wait what, they might actually delay the Epstein deal to respect the World Series?
HOW SHOCKING.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Come on
Aren’t you expecting an announcement that the World Series is being delayed while the Red Sox finish their negotiations with the Cubs over Epstein and then make their decision on his replacement ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 18, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it gets delayed and the paper work will be carried via horseback and it will not start until the paperwork returns
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 12:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the constant stream of Red Sox news at the height of the playoffs has been downright disrespectful
we don’t care about your fried chicken
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
second consecutive off day? here my top albums of 2011 with an only slightly meaningful order
youth lagoon – year of hibernation
the strokes – angles
kanye west/jay-z – watch the throne
real estate – days
radiohead – the king of limbs
the antlers – burst apart
bon iver – s/t
smith westerns – dye it blonde
okkervil river – i am very far
bobby – s/t
wu lyf – go tell fire to the mountain
girls – father, son, holy ghost
gang gang dance – eye contact
akron/family – s/t ii
Am I misreading or is there no Tennis, Cults, Handsome Furs, or Stephen Malkmus on this list?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
didn't like cults
never like pavement, so for that and other reasons, i’d be surprised if i’d like the malkmus. never heard of the others
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The new Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks is produced by Beck
and I think it’s excellent.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i'll probably give it a shot at some point
i didn’t know the album existed. not too hopeful, though
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i have now pinned it to the left side of my spotify
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
BOOOO WHATEVER
I really love Pavement, and you don’t, so I’ll chalk this up to no accounting for taste.
I agree, The Jicks are awesome
Mirror Traffic was still pretty top notch.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I really enjoyed that handsome furs album
good call
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
that is a naked person
my innocence is sullied
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry.
Apple sells it on iTunes with an alternate cover.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
thank goodness apple has my innocence in mind
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i can't get my copy of MBDTF
to change to the “not two people fucking on a couch” version and it annoys me.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
apple censored the already highly censored cover?
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
the one i have is
this (NSFW, i guess, if you work at a church or something)
i don’t like that one. i don’t know why particularly, as i have albums with real naked people on their covers that don’t bother me. this particular cover just annoys me and looks gross.
the one i want is this but itunes keeps reverting back to the other one for some reason.
is there a third one i don’t know about?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
oh, weird
i guess there were several version of this album cover. i’ve only ever seen this one
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, the pixelly one?
yeah, i don’t think that’s a real album cover just a censored version that some publications used.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
oh well
usually i’d be really anal about that sort of thing, but it’s been long enough that i don’t care
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
beautiful that you mention Stephen Malkmus
and Handsome Furs. Mirror Traffic may be my favorite album in some time. How about Destroyer?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 18, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, did you say Destroyer?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not my favorite Detroyer album
but I think it’s pretty ace.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 18, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I am tempted to do so but I am unsure how many metal people are on here
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
give it a shot.
i’m not a big fan of metal, but i know we have some. and i’m curious, so i’ll probably at least check out anything you mention.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Im going off memory and my iPod in front of me
Opeth – Heritage (very relaxed record, they moved from death metal into more of a King Crimson/early 70s style)
Anthrax – Worship Music
Arch Enemy – Khaos Legions
Chimaira – The Age of Hell
Crowbar – Sever The Wicked Hand
Dream Theater – Dramatic Turn of Events
Iced Earth – Dystopia
Machine Head – Unto The Locust
Mastodon – The Hunter
New megadeth next month. It would probably make the list as well.
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
symphony X's Iconoclast
and Evergrey’s “glorious collision” were both really good. I haven’t heard enough albums this year to rank them on a list, though.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
(and that DT album was HORRIBLE).
Labrie has become a pathetic whiny emo shell of himself.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Honestly I've heard 1 track off Symphony X new album and I liked it
They are on my list of bands that I’ve heard about for awhile just never got around to listening to but I plan to.
Not saying this is DT’s best but a lot of the songs have grown on me quite a bit. Glad there’s another metal guy on here!!!
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 6:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Animals As Leaders is the sickest heavy thing I heard all year
saw those guys live and it was actually better than the album. They played with a fucking kickass band called Intronaut (which is one of those band names that pisses me off that I didn’t think of it first) which I have to track down a CD by.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
chitown at least
but worst case scenario, nobody likes your music. might as well post it
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
seems like a bit of a down year for music
I’ve heard a good number of these (though certainly not all), and while I generally liked most of them, nothing was particularly amazing.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
i thought the same thing
but the last couple months have been good to me
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
last year was incredible,
so it’s okay if this year doesn’t live up.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
also apparently there is a wilco album i need to listne to
i very well may have forgotten some stuff. i typed this last night while under the influence of drugs
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
and there you were going on about your precious innocence
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I have to say that I'm surprised you included Angles on this list.
I think there are a handful of truly great songs on that album but the album as a whole (especially “Under The Cover Of Darkness”) has a mix-tape feel to it for me, likely due to the creative process behind it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i think it's definitely worthy of a top-15 mention
i don’t know if 2 is where i’d put it given more thought, but i liked it more the more that i listened to it
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd stick with the Eagles, Huey Lewis, Hootie & the Blowfish, Aerosmith.
Here is my World Series hit list for all the old timers:
The Turtles (Torties) – Happy Together
Aerosmith – Sweet Emotion
Bruce Springsteen – Glory Days
John Fogarty – Put me in Coach
Captain & Teneal – Muscrat Love (substitute Squirrel for Muscrat)
Bon Jovi – Livin on a Prayer
Aerosmith – Dream On
George Strait – All My Ex’s live in Texas
Huey Lewis & the News – Workin for a Livin
Big & Rich – Save a Horse, Rise a Cowboy (substitute Ranger)
IHeartIHeartBoog
gibby45 is one of the less creepy people on this blog. - IHeartBoog
Why is there no Journey on this list?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Good call, add:
Journey – Don’t Stop Believin’
IHeartIHeartBoog
gibby45 is one of the less creepy people on this blog. - IHeartBoog
meaning they were albums that were released in 2011
not my favorite albums ever
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
last week i sang put me in coach at the karaoke bar.
it was awesome
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You make me love you
I’ll bet it was awesome.
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What you call "put me in coach" is actually called Centerfield
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 18, 2011 9:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
All of those would be on my list too... here's a few others I like....
Sorry, this list got long really fast… I don’t know what happened….
Top 5
Pearl and the Beard – Killing the Darlings (by far my favorite of 2011)
Washed Out – Within and Without (2nd fav)
Das Racist – Relax (Top 5)
Tune-Yards – Who Kill (top 5)
Beirut – The Rip Tide (top 5)
Others – in no specific order
St. Vincent – Strange Mercy
Yuck – Yuck
The Horrors – Skying
Holy Ghost – Holy Ghots
Wye Oak – Civilian
Tapes and Tapes – Outside
Alexander – Alexander
Active Child – You Are All I See
Grouplove – Grouplove
Megafaun – Megafaun
SuperHeavy – Super Heavy (only because I like the song Mahiya so much)
Neon Indian – Era Extrana
Yacht – Shangri-La
Givers – In Light
Dom – Family of Love (technically an EP)
Elbow – Build a Rocket Boys
Mates of State – Palomino
Eisley – The Valley
Friendly Fires – Pala
David Bazan – Strange Negotiations
City and Colour – Little Hell
Lovett – Highway Collection
Voxhaul Broadcast – Timing is Everything
Yelle – Safari Disco Club
Destroyer – Kaputt
Toro y Moi – underneath the Pine
Royal Bangs – Flux Outside
Empress Hotel – Empress Hotel
Devotchka – 100 Lovers
Memory Tapes – Player Piano
Dawes – Nothing is Wrong
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
I would add Mirror Traffic
And I thought Kurt Vile’s album was pretty good.
The Throne, really?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess there is just something about really shitty rapping over repetive beats
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
lullacopters
people have different taste. just because an album does not conform to your idea of what you like does not make it shit.
i quite liked it. others did too. you did not. all these things are okay.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Relax, we can argue taste
It doesn’t actually mean it’s a personal attack in any way.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i didn't take it that way.
sorry if it sounded like i did.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I enjoy such an eclectic mix that I literally wouldn't know where to start.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahaa ESPN graphic of Theriot vs. Furcal
ahh, I needed a laugh.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I rec'd this before I finished the first sentence.
Nice opener.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions
cardinals.com
Is having some issues. Tickets say available but then nothing happens.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 18, 2011 12:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i hate football.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
let's analyze handshakes
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never understood the allure
of watching skinny Europeans in boxer shorts kick a black and white ball around for an hour either.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 18, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks for being a pedant, haha.
i actually really like that kind of football. american football is very boring to me, which strikes people as funny since the two sports i love watching (“soccer” and baseball) are often regarded as dull.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
oh, AMERICAN football...
you mean an hour of committee meetings broken up by running a few feet every few minutes?
Baseball is the only real sport. All the rest are games.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
and yeah, I can't help being pedantic lol
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 18, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take ping-pong.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
or, as the Chinese say.....
ping pong.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
funny
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Balls of Fury
surprisingly good flick.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm going to have to watch that one day.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm actually a big handegg fan myself but
St Louis is bigger baseball and hockey so your likely on par with many VEBers
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 18, 2011 9:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
haha...
we’re in the world series and all VEB can talk about is football and mizzou moving to the SEC. good stuff.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
oh and music.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
you should read that post
about catcher defense on passed balls. it was really interesting.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i will when i have time.
so friday.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You know who really sucks?
Sporting Kansas City and the Whig Party. That’s who.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Don't you mean the Zombie Whig Party?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Whigs....just wannabe Federalists.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
BOOOOO WHIGS!
they’re currently part of our government. True story. Assholes.
/politics.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And they look stunning.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
They look out of place on you humans.
at least in my doggy opinion.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
There was an American Whig party, too
but they went under during the runup to the civil war. So now they’re a joke about anachronistic nonsense here.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Lincoln started out a Whig I believe
The Republican party began largely with Whig party cast-offs.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
top selling albums of 2011
1. adele—“21”
2. lada gaga—“born this way”
3. mumford & sons—“sigh no more”
4. jason aldean—“my kinda party”
5. bruno mars—“doo wops & hooligans”
6. justin bieber—“never say never: the remixes”
7. chris brown—“F.A.M.E.”
8. various artists—“now 37”
9. nicki minaj—“pink friday”
10. katy perry—“teenage dream”
8.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
Mumford and sons, really? That was released about two years ago.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that really stands out
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like Adele
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i have no shame in saying that i do too.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would there be shame?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i don't know.
just in case there was. i was being proactive for a change.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone pick up the Civil Wars ?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
'I've got this friend' is awesome.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
So.
The Cardinals are Awesome.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
by Aranathor on Oct 18, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
so are you!
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah baby
you should tell those people upthread that think the cardinals are destined to lose in 3
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
oh hell
i don’t think the cards have a hope in the universe of beating the Rangers.
But who gives a fuck? We beat the bastard-brewers!
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I also didn't think we would win the other series
so i’m not gonna switch up my thinking just yet, it seems to be working.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
i'm still voting 10 in the fan confidence poll
why mess with what’s working
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I though I was the only one.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
thought
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
wait really?
elaborate
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
its not based on anything factual
its just that the Rangers seem really, really good.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
oh ok
well so do the cardinals
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
2004 (I acknowledge it happened), 2006, and 2011
in the World Series. Only a very, very few teams can boast of success like that in the past decade. Red Sox, Yankees, that’s about it.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Are you saying that Pujols signed for $300MM with an LA team
will undermine his prior statements about wanting to play for a competing team with a shot at the World Series?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i don't think he's gonna leave
but i also think that’s because we’re going to pay him too much money
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
we have been a very fulfilled fan base
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
We are nowadays.
Growing up in the late 80’s through the 90’s?! Ugh. That was a very dark time.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
yeah, remember when we had Cris Carpenter and Rich Gedman?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when we had Felix Jose
and he hit cleanup?
Why not have Carp...
pitch in games 3 and 7 to give the elbow some time? He can only start two games anyway, right?
It's like nobody reads anymore.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There might not be a Game 7
unless Carp pitches twice before then.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 18, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 18, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't understand this ticketing thing.
they are available, yet when you go to buy even just one ticket, it says tickets aren’t available in the quantity you selected. that makes no sense.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
According to the team, they're sold out.
They should probably just not have the option to buy online at all anymore, but I’m sure they don’t mind the page views.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
that sucks.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
well yeah. i already have game 6 tickets.
i was holding out hope that i could buy game 7 from the box office instead of stub hub.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
can't say that i blame you.
game 7 is absurdly expensive on stubhub.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm hoping to sell mine and use the profits to buy cheaper tickets.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
what games do you have?
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
through the box office for both?
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
(I wish there was a "worst available besides SRO" or "Worst available by tier" option.)
"He probably misses his old glasses."
do subjunctive better.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
okay.
you always say this. what did he do wrong?
are you supposed to say “i wish there were”?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
yes.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
no.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
so if I was to acquiesce to your little campaign, you still won't listen to us?
ok.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I wish you could search multiple types.
Best available in infield box and bleachers, for example.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I wish it just gave a range of prices
I don’t want SRO and I can’t afford green seats in pairs. So give me something in the middle.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i doubt you’ll be able to sell those for enough of a profit to buy cheaper tickets that would make it worth it (since the cheaper tickets will have to be scalped/third party).
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm aware of what I'm doing.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
that was an indirect question.
how you plan on going about your plan.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if I don't get double what I paid, I'm keeping the seats.
If I sell and can’t get anything online, I’ll probably try to scalp outside the stadium once the game starts. If no luck, go down to the oyster bar and hang out until they open the gates.
Of course, the likelihood of any of this happening is nil, so whatevs.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
i can't even check because stubhub is broken
i noticed that games 1 and 2 prices went down. but game 7 is just going to go up, especially if i wait until the day of game 6
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
i say there's an 80% chance game 7 isn't played.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Even so, that's not going to affect ticket prices.
Everybody gets their money back — even on StubHub — if the game isn’t played.
no i know.
i was just giving analysis.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Number of tickets are going down on stubhub for game one also
I’m pretty sure even if all the tickets sell no one will be buying my absurdly priced tickets.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
if you can make it tomorrow, i'll give you two tickets at face value
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
ha
i wish. but thanks
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
VEB: no price gouging
what a community, huh
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
454.50 for a pair
upper deck infield 449 row 4
i can’t believe i am sitting on $1000 worth of tickets because i thought having friends was a good idea.. aaaargh
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
nope, i had 4 extra, cause they asked me to get some for them
i have one for me
(sigh)
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
HFS.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, those people suck really, really bad
Is it bad that I’m only 26 and already entering my grumpy, get-off-my-lawn, “back in my day” stage? How the hell do those people not at least offer to pay for the tickets and be responsible for re-selling them? They asked for them, it should be their problem.
People today, I tell ya.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
no, game 7 wouldn't be a problem
tickets are for tomorrow, they called off late tonight
i’m beyond pissed
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
What assholes!
The gf and I would swoop in to save the day but we already paid an arm and a leg for tickets. I hope you can sell them
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
this...
I had the same issue and called the ticket office. Basically told me they were sold out and that the returns that are occasionally posted online are literally lots of 1 or 2 tickets, so your chances are about nil.
They told me it would be my lucky day if I got one.
I got 2 in 2 separate transactions for game 7. Same section, seats directly in front of each other. I should go buy a lotto ticket.
That was 3 hours ago though, now volumes are so high it can’t even process requests.
damnit! i'm never lucky
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
from 'face
World Series umpires announced: Jerry Layne (Crew chief), Gary Cederstrom, Ted Barrett, Greg Gibson, Ron Kulpa, Alfonso Marquez.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Phew.
Dodged a bullet there.
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
wanted bob davidson.
oh well.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
AHAHAHAHA Passan breaking open what we all knew about Jason Motte
that’s right, world. pushing 100 mph and he cannot see it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
no glasses. no contacts. no nothing.
JUST GLOVE.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
We need to take out a large ad in Dallas newspapers
to let all Rangers players know this. You know, for their own safety.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
we need Big Smiley Motte for that picture.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm squinting because I can't see you!

You’re lucky my eyes are even open.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nah
We’re gonna use the S-T. Rates are cheaper.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
why fuck with a formula that works, I guess....
as he gets older and his eyesight gets worse, does he get better?
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Bull Durham remake
Crash: Hit the bull.
Motte: What bull?
Crash: Perfect.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
without compare. My compliments, sir. ..
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Matt Holliday
I’m glad he’s on my team. I’m not sure I want to go up there against a guy who can’t see when he’s throwing a ball 100 mph.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
So he's channeling Sutter and Gibson?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
"I don't know what my vision is, but I can promise I'm not Ted Williams."
Motte is the greatest thing ever.
Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.
Huh,I thought he wore contacts
I wonder how he plays defense? That must be really scary if you see a line drive headed right towards your face just a second too late
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
he ain't got no distractions
can’t hear them sportsfans yell
no banner ads or spotlights
just fields by sense of smell
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
that grizzle-bearded wizard
sure throws a mean fastball.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
by cschepers on Oct 18, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
he seems to manage on defense...
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7701725
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
all he sees is the white moving fast thing yay
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
how long is the metro ride from the airport to busch stadium?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I believe about 30 minutes.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
hmm.
i guess that’s better than staying at the hilton down town for $400/night (!)
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
What?
I’m staying at the Ballpark Hilton for $185ish…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
what nights?
i just checked for 26-27 and it was $429/night
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
Game 1
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yeah. much more for games 6 and 7
the westin and the other hilton are sold out actually
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I really like the Westin.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i could stay at the drury inn by union station
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Two blocks from the Drury is a bar called Maggie O'Briens
and it usually runs a shuttle to the stadium.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
oh cool.
thanks
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
are there two drury's? it looks like there is one on 20th street and one on market street
which one do i want?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
The one I was thinking of is Drury Inn Union Station 201 South 20th Street St. Louis, MO 63103. That is right by Maggie’s.
There’s another one that’s north of the stadium, iirc: Drury Inn & Suites Convention Center
711 North Broadway
St. Louis, MO 63102
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Both of the latter two are within walking distance of the stadium.
But I don’t know much about how nice they are since I’ve never stayed in an StL hotel.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
thanks for your help azru
i ended up getting a room a the drury inn on 20th street. it got great reviews on trip advisor. the website said sold out, but i just called anyway. they only had 4 rooms available. the rates were only $20/night more than holiday inn at the airport, and they have free happy hour!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
free happy hour is the most underrated hotel amenity.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
the other thing that is awesome is now i don't have to leave for the game at freaking 430. i can have happy hour in my hotel and stuff until like 530, then head over.
unless i want to catch BP, i suppose.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
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where did you get seats?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
261
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man oh man am i jealous.
and man oh man did you pay.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
are those good seats?
honestly, upper deck infield seats were the same price. it was a matter of sitting behind home plate but up high or sitting closer but to the side
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i like that area.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
My weekend season tickets were in 263.
I like that area quite a bit.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
the cardinals always run specials in the area.
so i usually end up sitting there a lot.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i got them for $100 cheaper each than the cheapest tix are currently in that section
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IHB
just to ease any remaining anxiety, I’ve never had a bad stay in a Drury. The only complaint I’ve ever had is that the breakfast sometimes gets a bit busy if too many people hit it at the same time. I’ve never stayed at the one on 20th, but I can’t imagine it being anything but good.
(Happy hour is neat too, but I usually don’t get to take full advantage ’cause it starts about the time I leave for the game.)
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
excellent. thanks again everyone for your input!
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I've stayed at the Drury next to Union Station a bunch, and it is always nice.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 18, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
good to know, thanks
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I've also stayed at that one.
It was pretty nice. Of course, that was a few years back.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
There's a restaurant at that Drury
called Lombardo’s that is fantastic. You should stay there (and get the toasted ravioli at Lombardo’s)
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
cool, thanks for the tips. i should probably go read azru's stl guide
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no no no
i didn’t mean it like that. i meant i should probably read it to find additional awesome tips like the one from mattyp
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I CAN'T WAIT FOR GAME 6
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Seems like a lot of us have tickets to game 6
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
veb meet up? i
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i'm sure my boyfriend would love it
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I'd be down if other people are
My gf has said she’d like to meet some of VEB
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a bad experience at Lombardo's once
The food WAS very good, but I got it 35 minutes after everyone else. They just completely forgot me, and then were pretty rude when I questioned them about it… acted like I had just showed up and not placed an order at all. I haven’t been back since.
Was good food though.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 18, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Stayed there a couple times.
Nice location. There is a trolly that runs from Union to the park and vice versa. Not sure if it is still running this time of year – maybe a local could answer that one.
The Hyatt Regency at the Arch was also pretty sweet, and handy. Price was similar to the Drury at Union Station last time I was there. Enjoy the trip and the game!
IHeartIHeartBoog
gibby45 is one of the less creepy people on this blog. - IHeartBoog
thanks. the hyatt was my first choice, but sold out :(
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You could stay at Gibby's place
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Oh wait no they're in Michigan
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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WHEW
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so is the marriot at union station
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sold out
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there are two of them.
does the hilton charge per room or per night?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
32 minutes.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
a 5:07 train arrives at Stadium Station at 5:39
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so i guess that's not too bad.
i was hoping it was quicker. i think i would rather stay a little closer to the stadium, but somewhere right by the metro
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ATTN all out-of-towners coming in
when you LEAVE Busch Stadium, make sure the train you’re getting on is going to Lambert and not Shrewsbury (unless you’re coming from the south). otherwise you will be stuck at Forest Park station in the middle of the night with little to no chance of squeezing back into the correct line.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Goold comin' at us with the historicalnessity
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Great article
This line:
Bob Gibson*, P
(1964, ’67, ’68): 9 games, 9 starts, 7-2, 1.89 ERA, 0.89 WHIP
just… no words, really.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
"Really good?"
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needs to have an additional stat
“batters killed with sheer force of steely gaze”
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
That's downright
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
81 IP, 8 CG
Yeah, not 9 CG, 8.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
So get this
I had a minor procedure done today on my catching hand. I ask the surgeon if there is something wrong with my hand which is peeling off in certain places, fearing that it could be some sort of liver disease. He said that it could either be an allergy or a reaction to stress. This is the easiest semester I’ve had so far and I do not have a job. The only thing that stresses me out is that my favorite baseball team is in the WS. So, in essence folks, the Cardinals are killing me.
2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
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by Paulspike on Oct 18, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
This angers me a little...
Listening to sportscenter right before they go back from commercial and heard there’s some health council/board that is saying they don’t want either team to use tobacco products in dugout or on camera. Going to players union. I’ve never wanted to smoke or chew. This to me seems ridiculous to me IMO.
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 1:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Everybody has to pay for everyone else's medical problems...
so some of the more dangerous products should probably just be banned. Or we need a law prohibiting medical treatment of oral cancer.
it's a bunch of gum chewers on the Cards, so doubt it's an issue
this is a think of the children thing. there’s nothing stopping them going down the tunnel, other than FESPN following them down the tunnel.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
There are definitely still dippers.
Theriot and Furcal off the top of my head. Unless they’re carrying that tape measure gum in those pockets.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
yeah, that's what I figured
hahaa, I had a vision of this rule applied to Ibañez
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
give em some loose leaf mint tea to suck on
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I'm missing.
I need some tea on this grey autumn day.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Earl Grey, perhaps?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The health boards from Arlington and St. Louis
as well as four U.S. senators sent letters to the MLBPA asking that tobacco products be banned for the World Series. It is part of a larger push, according to this article:
With baseball’s current collective bargaining agreement expiring in December, the senators, some government officials and public health groups like the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids want the players to agree to a tobacco ban in the next contract.
I don’t understand anger about this. It involves the MLBPA, health boards, and four senators. If the MLBPA chooses to enter into a tobacco ban by contract, that is their right in this country. I guess I don’t really care if they do or don’t.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I don't think there's any harm in this either....
But I would say that these type of “agreements” tend to create hardliners with the community of players who use. For instance, how many teenagers would go use tobacco just to spite the MLB when they find out their favorite players are using it and don’t want it banned from the game? Probably as many as use it because their favorite players use it now, only they might not know it because the player hasn’t been outed in public for his personal habits.
I think that there’s been a significant drop in the amount of tobacco use among players just in the last 15 years and these type of steps weren’t needed to come this far. I think people like Brett Butler were instrumental in spreading information about the health issues related to chewing tobacco.
Players should be free to make their own decisions about their personal health, they should be forced to be role models for others simply because of their profession.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
First no guns in the clubhouse, and now this.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MY BELOVED GAME?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Old Hoss Radbourn would just switch to dipping gunpowder.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear that saltpeter can give quite a kick.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, there's now guns allowed in the clubhouse?!
Well, fuck!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 18, 2011 9:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
...please don't post the picture of Franky and Albert with the guns
‘cause it’s really too large.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It bothers me bc everybody in the dugout is focused on the game
If you are paying attention to the game I don’t see any body in their right mind to think “I want to take a dip, oh man I need to run into the tunnel to take this”. I wonder if they will have a dugout monitor to regulate this. I understand the purpose behind it and its for a good reason. Is it more important to do this for WS than LCS or LDS? Or regular season?
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How many kids start chewing because Raul Ibanez chews?
How many kids start chewing because their mom or dad chews and they have easy access to the product and can try it pretty much any time they want?
Any guess as to which one is higher? Because I’m sure it’s the latter.
In this instance, the players are the victims of being public figures who engage in a practice that is unhealthy. So, the question is, why aren’t health boards and senators protesting TV shows like “Man v. Food” which demonstrate piss poor eating habits. Considering that obesity and heart disease cause nearly 40% of the chronic illness in this country, I’d say this type of programming is far more harmful.
Both ideas are idiotic and a waste of time. If the intend was to educate people and let them make their own choices, I would feel differently. But that’s not the intent here — the intent is to essentially ban adults from engaging in a behavior because they might encourage kids to do it.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Love it.
Basically in so many words what I was trying to say only you did it a lot better.
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he is a wordy bastard.
not saying that you’re wrong for being that way, fourstick. Just saying that you are a wordy bastard. How many keyboards do wear out in a year?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I just finally wore out my old IBM Model M keyboard last year
That thing lasted 15 years. New Logitech Wave keyboard is nice, but it’s just not a replacement for the Model M that I had. I tried a UniWave one, but it seems like they’ve cheapened the key springs or something — it just doesn’t have the springback that the old one did.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i love clicky keyboards
silent ones freak me out.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Watching you with an iPad would be hilarious then.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Bluetooth Keyboards
work really well for the iPad. My wife has the apple one and loves using it with the iPad.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
not that I'll probably ever have one
but what’s the battery life one of those keyboards?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It lasts quite a long time
40-50 hours of continuous use. Also depends on the keyboard and what battery it uses. My wife’s uses a Li-On rechargable battery. Others use AA’s and I’d guess they don’t last as long.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
oh, it is.
it’s not quite youtube worthy, but oh man. freaking. out.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Model M is the best one I've ever had
I scour eBay looking for the specific model that i had — thing is, it’s really popular, and therefore hard to find and expensive on the used market.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Yeah, I've got an old HP keyboard.
It’s probably a good 10-12 yr. I’ve tried to get used to a couple of laptops and just can’t ever get the hang of them.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll use a laptop keyboard when it's convenient.
But I much prefer a standalone one.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
How interesting! Baseball Tonight only has memories from Rangers players!
i guess they’re the only team playing.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Remember, it's already over.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
tim mckernan's twitter....
just, wow.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
Enjoy your venereal disease, dude.
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
by zack3315 on Oct 18, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So, assuming those girls have fathers who are in their lives
(which is a big assumption), what is the chance that at least one of their dad’s co-workers listen to or follow McKernan? And how do you bring this up to one of their dad’s if he is not already aware?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
@tmckernan @ashlately what is going on my dad has already called me twice
http://twitter.com/#!/k8gross/status/126277986474397696
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
she (thankfully) called it off after balking at the videotaping demand.
so now timmeh is actively recruiting someone else.
this is why i want males.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, I'm a pretty terrible human being
but that guy makes me look like Gandhi.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
he's also (sadly) a lot richer than you are.
i wonder what his parents think.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
nor would i.
okay, maybe for a year. put some money away.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
sports talk radio announcers are rich?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
High demand for their services
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Twitter
i want daughters.
but dealing with people like that would make me sick.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
...
this is why i want males.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I am currently very glad I have one of those
and maybe two.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way, not wanting to have a daughter because there are some asshole men out there is kind of goofy.
yah, strikes me as backwards.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I agree.
this is why all girls should be taught MMA, so they can just rip the nuts off guys like that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't even know what the guy said.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I would teach them a self-defense tactic that involved less slow, deliberate rolling around on the floor
but I’m pretty victorian like that
by DanUpBaby on Oct 18, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
or perhaps
raise sons who aren’t howard stern wannabes.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's the other half of my plan
my children will be allowed to listen to back episodes of the jack benny program and then maybe NPR when they turn 18.
you could just cheat
and consult momup
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Krav Maga: 101 ways to hit a guy in the nuts
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
that's not all of it, obviously.
besides the fact they’d be the most spoiled daughters of all time, boys are just easier to deal with. though considering most of my friends now are girls, maybe i’m destined to have like four daughters.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
getting married to a 24 year old at the age of 28.
i have my life planned out.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That's stupid
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
why?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I assume you were originally joking... but to possibly think you can have your life planned out?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
i was, more or less.
this whole “getting a job” a job thing isn’t, um, as automatic as i would have liked.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No, seriously, planning your life out is actually stupid
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
not to mention impossible
It is good to have goals, but to think that you have a plan for the age you and your wife to be that you haven’t even met yet will get married? Dumb.
I assumed he was joking too, BTW.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i was.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You've 'joked' about it several times on here then
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
LOL BEATLES
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm 99% sure Fang is not a complete moron and knows that it's not practical to plan your life out when you are 21
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
he says as he puffs on his pipe and adjusts his monocle
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Had to get rid of the gold plated one...
Sterling silver.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
don't let him fool you folks
that’s platinum
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
completely OT,
but my wedding ring is palladium. I’d never really seen it before. It’s a white metal, and not as heavy on the fingers as gold. I really like it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
when you point it at things, does it do stuff
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't know but there's been this creepy creature following me around
ever since the wedding.
(This is not a wife joke!)
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
does it crawl around and keep muttering guttural noises
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
most of the ring companies
changed from gold to palladium for class rings many years ago. Gold rings got to be waaaay too expensive.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
palladium is ridiculously awesome.
and really, really rare. all the palladium ever mined, ever, would fit in a 25 cubic foot room. it also powers catalytic convertors. it’s awesome. that’s what i want my wedding ring to be made out of too.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure most cat converters are platinum actually
and also (to ArkansasTravs above) I’m pretty sure Palladium is more expensive than gold.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 19, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The ring was slightly cheaper than white gold, iirc.
Like I said, I chose it because it was nice and light. I’ve never worn jewelry, and I didn’t want something heavy.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
hm.
i was under the impression most cat convertors used palladium. either way, both would work fine- platinum just gives you some more reactions that you don’t necessarily need.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Also, it's mined in MT.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yeah i am getting married at 23 and will have my first kid at 28. i have my life planned out, too.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I'm gonna go into investment banking, work really hard until I'm 35
Then travel the world and marry a Spanish local!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
That was when I was like 15 though
I’m pretty much living my adjusted-life plan
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I pretty much did this actually
Except I got married at 24.
Also, my twelve year old self just called, wanting to make sure that I am indeed a successful late night talk show host. What do I tell the poor kid?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
"you did it for about nine months, but then jay leno demanded his job back"
by DanUpBaby on Oct 18, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"But dad, that guy has read hair and is almost a foot taller than you"
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
wat
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
oh that was my impression of 21 year-old IHB
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
It was a good impression
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
oh. i'm sure she was a blast to be around.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Very few people are enjoyable at that age.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
indirect snipe!
they’re fun for other 21 year olds to be around.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 18, 2011 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe i'll step back and let you tell me what you think first.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, my kid is 27 months old, so I'm hardly a font of experience,
but as far as I can tell from talking to people, teaching HS, and thinking about things, being a parent is really difficult, but dealing with cultural gender baggage barely enters into it.
I suspect that it’s possible for some individuals to have a far more difficult time with a child of a particular sex, but that’s more about their own individual baggage than anything innately more difficult about it.
Also, a child’s individual quirks and the universal issues of growing up both seem to far outweigh anything that’s specific to being male or female.
This.
/parentoftwoboys.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
i was more or less playing off the "16 year old girl" stereotype.
but i’ll take your word with more weight.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I've gleaned through inheriting two teenage boys,
Girls have to deal with a lot more crap at that age. Very clicky, having the right jeans, and teenage girls are just down right mean to each other. I’m obviously speaking in generalizations, but from the goings on of the rest of the family, it seems my wife says at least once a week that she’s glad she had boys.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
spelling
don’t hit me, I just couldn’t figure it out for a while
clique-y
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's really annoying.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
oh, I thought it was that they communicated
in one of those languages where tongue-clicking is a consonant.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Also, it's a lot easier for boys to pee on you when you change their diapers
Advantage: girls
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
These are two equally-matched groups
I think this thing is gonna come down to match-ups and whoever gets a good streak going and is easier to raise on a given day.
My verdict: Rangers in 6.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
AHHHH TERRIBLE VISUAL
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
That kids gonna have a tough time in preschool with a name like that
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he's never been a problem to his parents.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
It's not goofy. It's extremely fucked up.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Oct 18, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
stabbed.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i like how you don't circumvent it at all.
just go right to the point.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He was a big reason why I stopped listening to sports talk radio.
Just awful.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It's really not his fault for giving the audience what they want.
No different than Limbaugh. If enough people want to buy something, somone’s going to step up and sell it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
maybe not his fault wasn't the right term.
Just pointing out, that if it wasn’t him, it’d be someone else.
Hate the game, not the player.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Badminton AND Ryan Braun?
That’s a lot of hate for a Tuesday.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
at least a Thursday level of hatred
it’s like the crossword puzzle—it gets more extreme as the week goes on
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
warning for anticlimax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2k-tsX5KE
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah, that one guy was nuts
partner dragging him down
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that was some badass badminton
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
the crowd-gasms add to it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sure ain't the badminton played in my backyard
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
you could "block" them.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Television doesn't get better than the last 3 or so episodes of Breaking Bad.
Think I’m going to have to re-watch the whole season.
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - Wiki - PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE
Google+ <
Follow me @thestlcardsfan4
Fitting however
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - Wiki - PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE
Google+ <
Follow me @thestlcardsfan4
by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 18, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The cousins from last season were cartoonish too.
Guess it fits the show.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I would hate to deface anyones integrity
check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos
I don't want to spoil anything.
But there is a sort of obvious way to go with it, when you think about it. Mentioned here, among other places. Ctrl-F “fifth and final” for the paragraph talking about what I’m talking about.
oh yeah THERE ARE SPOILERS IN THAT LINK, FOLKS
i'm so bored, i'm ready to talk about the Rangers
someone fill us in, yo.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
A Nelson Cruz homerun ball just broke through the space/time continuum
It went back in time and killed young Hitler, preventing his rise to power.
Don’t worry, this created an alternate timeline that won’t have any effect on our own.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I'm glad Cazana is on our side
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
here I go OT, then.
a kerning game. yes. a game to challenge your typesetting skills.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Offenses
Top 11 players by wRC+
Berkman(159)——————Napoli(178)
Craig(158)————————-Beltre(134)
Holliday(154)——————-Hamilton(129)
Pujols(148)————————Kinsler(128)
Punto(123 wat)—————-Young(127)
Molina(123)———————-Cruz(116)
Freese(122)———————Gentry(108) {I literally have no clue who this is}
Jay(112)—————————-Chavez(98)
Furcal(105)———————-Andrus(96)
Schumaker(89)—————Murphy(93)
Deslcaso(87)——————-Moreland(92)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
From the Keith Ginter school of baseball
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, nevermind he was an infielder
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He originally pursued an interest in the honorable game of cricket
but upon finding that the noble sport of his ancestors was disdained by today’s common rabble, he chose instead to dedicate his considerable talents to demonstrating that a man of breeding and cultivation could excel at the new popular activity of “Base Thine Ball.”
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
HFS allen craig
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Yeah, the DH really advantages us this series
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
[joke redacted about advantaging your mom]
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Mike Napoli, WTFingF??????
I literally had no idea he had QUITE such an astounding season.
That Vernon Wells trade is looking better and better.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Napoli and Beltre were incredible acquisitions
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I expect excellence from Beltre.
He’s a really incredible player. Napoli’s always been under-rated, but I’ve always thought of him as an .800 OPS guy. To put up 1.046, a .414 OBP, in a down year for offense, from catcher? Incredible. If he put up 600 PAs he’d have out-stripped Joe Mauer’s career year, which IIRC was one of the top 5 all-time seasons from a catcher. Holy shit.
Mike Napoli lead the major leagues in wOBA. .444. Bautista put up a .441. I totally had no idea how amazing he’d been.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I looked it up, and Napoli basically put up a year on par with Mauer's best year, Piazza's peak, and that crazy 2003 by Javy Lopez (I think that's the one anyway)
I think Napoli missed some time with injury this year too? Only 432 PAs.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
The only reason I know how great he was in 2011 is him being on my fantasy baseball team.
(I know no one GAF.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Same with me
I had Cruz too, I watched a lot of Rangers this year. I can give my expert scouting reports on them now guys!
Texas has been kind to Napoli
He had some monster stretches with the Angels.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He hit like Pujols this year
30 homers in 113 games. Wowzers.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
And he plays a passable catcher, which helps out their lineup a lot in non-DH games
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I'm thinking that Vernon Wells trade could literally be about the worst ever...
The Angels could’ve just had Napoli’s .444 wOBA playing in the OF this year, instead of Wells .285, and saved about $80m in the process. Wow.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Mathis omg
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Very OT
Anyone playing Dark Souls? My life is basically unmanageable at this point, trying to juggle a baseball and a video game obsession simultaneously.
Heads up, Game One attendees.
BJRains B.J. Rains
Fans are asked to arrive early tomorrow night for Game 1 due to increased security for dignitaries and special guests that are attending.
BJRains B.J. Rains
Gates open at 4pm tomorrow and the on-field ceremonies begin at 6:20 pm.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
Where there be some St. Louis celebs in the crowd?
Maybe John Hamm and Jenna Fischer?

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
Ladies (first and second)
clearly they heard Lance Lynn would be on the roster
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he's not too fond of saint louis anymore
It’s a good town to be from and a good place to be a kid…but it’s very much a place where when you grow up you either work for your dad or you leave town. There’s not a lot of innovation happening in St. Louis. For whatever reason, I always wanted to get out of that place.
Source: Marc Maron Podcast
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 18, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That's actually the impression I get about that city as well
People here compare itself to STL a lot, and for the first time in awhile, KC is coming ahead
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i kind of want to live in KC for like three months.
just to check and out and stuff. i make fun of it a lot but i haven’t really been there.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I LOVE living here
They’ve revived a lot of neighborhoods, there’s innovation going on all around me (I live in the Crossroads district, where they just opened up the Kauffman Center). Cerner’s right here, Sprint’s not far away. I could’ve have been luckier
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
cerner recruits really hard from truman.
as do all the accounting firms. sprint for whatever reason does not.
maybe i’ll come spend a weekend of my break in KC. couldn’t hurt anything.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, yes they do
Which is why I now live here in KC. But, if you like to have a life at all, please do not go work for Cerner.
Otherwise, yeah, KC is a really sweet place to be.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
I very indirectly work for Cerner
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Yeah, that doesn't really count
I was working there when they bought the Wizards. I imagine Neal doesn’t work you guys quite as hard as he does his code monkeys.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
No, I actually have a realllllllllllly cushy job
But I met Neal’s nephew randomly the other night. He… is not a fan of his uncle
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
The Illigs are cool though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
well that's too bad.
work too much?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Once they get you there
They start you at 40 hours a week, like you’d expect. Everything is fine and dandy until they start asking for a few 50s every now and then (once every couple of months). Then 50s are the norm and 60s are the exception. Its like some elaborate long term torture, until you realize you have spent the last 12 days only working, eating and sleeping.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
yeah, um, that's not the kind of work-life balance i'm looking for.
regardless, career fair tomorrow!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It did make it a bunch easier when interviewing for jobs post Cerner
They didn’t even have to ask why I left, everyone understood.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
oh so you did leave.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was only there for 16 months
June 2006 to October 2007. I have been at my current job since November 2007, and they actually like employees to have a work life balance. Its probably because they are much smaller and laid back.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
Career fair
What are you looking for a career doing?
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
pedantry
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I hear job prospects are good
in that line of work, but the pay is horrible.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
accounting.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
couldn't've*
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
You no longer have the right to correct anyone's grammar.
just to check and out and stuff.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i mistyped.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
tough.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i understand that sentiment.
i didn’t grow up in st louis, so i have no special fondness for it other than the people i know and love who still call it home (namely my immediate family).
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Something about chickens and eggs
I’ve heard about a dozen tales of people whose jobs forced them to move to St. Louis who thought they would hate it, and they they never left. It’s actually a great city to settle in, but for some reason tons of people get the whole “I’m gonna leave my crappy town for the big city” thing in their heads.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
oh yes,
that’s the totally wrong approach. st louis is not a big city, and even if it were i feel like it wouldn’t really feel like one.
for all the shit i give st louis (and the midwest), being from california, it was really a nice place to live.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
coming from a small town of 1800
and moving here gives a person a great sense of anonymity. Back home I could be at a bar hitting on a friends friends ex girlfriend from 5 years ago and people in 6 towns know about it an hour later. Its nice to get away from the small town bullshit.
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i was forced out of town when my dad got transferred
but it really was a great place to grow up. and if stupid wash U hadn’t wait-listed me for law school, i’d probably be living there now.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
fucking wash U!
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
but i wonder if i would have found veb. probably not. i wouldn't need an outlet if i was already living there
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
do subjunctive better.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
do verbs better.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It is very difficult to talk to casual fans about baseball now.
I had lunch with my dad, a big Yankess fan (grew up in the 60s with Mantle on the TV), and our discussion turned to what the Yankees will do if CC opts out. I said it would be difficult for them to pay A-Rod, CC, and Teixeira during their decline years and that, in a couple of years Teixeira wouldn’t be a $20MM value at 1B. His response was, “What is $20MM in value? If he’s still hitting 30 HR and driving in 100 RBI, is that worth $20MM?”
My dad is much smarter than I am. But he has no concept of WAR. I didn’t even really know how to continue the discussion so I went to OBP, which he is somewhat familiar with.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i think that's an insightful question
that not many casual baseball fans would have asked. at least, not the ones i know.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I agree.
That he arrived there immediately tells me that he would easily gobble up that type of analysis. He just doesn’t have the time. He still views hitters through BA, HR, and RBI. He also views pitchers based on W/L record and ERA. This is the baseball prism ingrained in him when he was growing up decades ago.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah, I agree
I normally just let me friends talk about whatever random stats they want and try and interject OPS in there or something when I can
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I just grit my teeth, smile, and nod
when my patients start telling me Carpenter had a down year and needs to retire, etc.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
You know they aren't that dumb
Or at least the ones I’ve talked to. There’s a pretty rock solid theoretical foundation for OPS.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, i agree with you. it's funny though, i was very new to sabermetrics when i joined veb.
i knew i was smarter than the p-d posters, but i didn’t know WHY.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I got into it.
When I coached my younger brother’s teams, I actually used OBP to construct the lineup. This was back before I discovered that batting order didn’t matter.
I had a long email exchange with Derrick Goold on the relative values of Renteria and Grudz and the Cardinals’ reported offers to each player. Then I wound up here.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
"batting order doesn't matter"
doesn’t it matter a tiny bit? like one or two wins over the course of a season?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
less than 4 wins separates the very worst possible lineup from the very best
per baseball between the numbers
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 18, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
therefore, its unlikely the minor changes managers make have any impact at all
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 18, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I might have the number wrong, I don't have the book with me
but that was essentially the conclusion that baseball prospectus guys came up with.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 18, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
baseballmusings lineup generator says
The difference between the best possible lineup, and a typical {scrub scrub Pujols Berkman Holliday scrub scrub scrub Pitcher} lineup, was about 58 runs. The difference between the worst possible vs best possible lineups for the 2011 cardinals was about 111 runs. Simply batting the pitcher 8th gained about 25 runs, and swapping Yadi and Furcal between 7th and leadoff is worth about 8 runs, though things like that have second-order effects that aren’t measured in the model.
link IE (5.308 – 4.620)*162
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Pretty sure baseball musings is just a regression
You’d need a markov chain to do this right.
Not afraid to nitpick
The CasualFan I seem to end up having the most
Is that Barry Bonds was better than Griffey in the 90s even before the juice. I’ve actually ended up turning a couple people on to saber stuff because of that factual statement.
Not afraid to nitpick
this.
thanks for nothing, veb.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I still love talking historical baseball
and being nostalgic of the teams of my youth (Willie McGee’s BABIP in 1985 was perfectly normal, thank you very much!), but I have basically stopped talking baseball with most of my real life friends. My wife has picked up on the concepts pretty well, and my dad always has, so that’s been helpful…
Wait… is this like SABR therapy?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
I dunno
He was pretty, really shitty in Sucker Punch and The Town. Those are the only things I’ve seen him in, so I might be biased.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
he's the yuni betancourt of actors
no range, really, but looks awfully good when you hit it right at him. and don draper is right at him.
yeah he was great on 30 rock
speaking of…what happened to that show
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
ah, that's right. cool.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Jon Hamm's
appearance on Between Two Ferns is his greatest comedic work
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
wat
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - Wiki - PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE
Google+ <
Follow me @thestlcardsfan4
by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 18, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I should probably watch this
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
SHE WENT TO TRUMAN
/obligatory
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Did she study accounting, or did she just waste her time there?
by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
theater major with a journalism minor (lolz)
she originally enrolled as a pre-law history major.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No wonder she didn't make anything out of herself!
(I’m done now)
by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah i'm not having this discussion.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
the liberal arts are fine
if you want to be the put-upon secretary of some regional paper concern all your life
by DanUpBaby on Oct 18, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
have they said who's throwing the first pitch
this morning on mlbn i heard something about billy bob thorton or adam wainwright.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
that's who they thought could throw it out
I’d love to see Waino throw out the first pitch.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 18, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He threw the last pitch in the previous world series.
It’s have a nice sense of symmetry if he threw out the first one this time.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
They were taking fan suggestions.
I’d love to see Waino do it, myself.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
same. it would be symbolic in a multitude of ways
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
just take a half day.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, that's really fucking lame.
no “soda” for anyone.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
freaking serious?
The second best part of going to a game is my liter bottle of “Diet Mountain Dew.”
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
guess they'll have to shut down the arch too
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
all for michelle obama.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
hey don't be dissin Dr. Biden
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
THIS IS NOT NAM, THERE ARE RULES

Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
mark it fucking zero
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I am this close to requesting gifs just to up the cheerfulness on this thread.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yeah, seriously
Shit’s morose all up in here
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
no basbol
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the weather's all gloomy and stuff.
doesn’t help.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's a work day with no baseball on the heels of a work day with no baseball.
What’s to be happy about?
And if you tell me I should just be happy with my life, I narrow my eyes at you.
when did we turn into a bunch of gdms
sorry gdm
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
hurray!
pegusi are hits with the ladies. lemme tell you. athene particularly.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
the size of the horn doesn't matter
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That's what peguseseses with small horns say
Also, I’ve heard that they tend to lie about the size on the internet a lot. Just something to keep in mind.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
you guys have your imaginary animals somewhat mixed up
and also, now i’m wondering where the crap i came up with this handle
we really wanted to trigger an existential crisis.
sorry.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's weird, it's been my default online-forum handle since forever
but WHY? i have no particular affinity for pegasi; sometimes i mix them up with unicorns, too. oh well.
have a towel
no one puts this in their lifetime plan
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
y'know, whatever happens, the offseason is approaching
is there something we can do for the withdrawal
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Post lots of late-night gifs?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I mean, I'm sure we can come up with tons of stuff during the offseason
(I CAN’T IMAGINE WHAT WE MIGHT TALK ABOUT)
but in the immediate aftermath… that morning after is a —.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm gonna fanshot this shit sooner or later
Mozeliak on the annual dinner (that one with the businesses and the Cardinals peeps)
"Tony was great," Mozeliak recalled of the speech by Manager Tony La Russa. "He talked about, ‘We’re not quitting, [even though] this is tough.’ Then, [pitcher Adam] Wainwright gets up, and it’s like this sort of emotional, ‘We’re in this thing. Hey, if we can sweep the Brewers, we’re right back in this thing.’ It was great."
"[Mozeliak] has to say those things in that situation," Wainwright said. "But in this room, we never lost faith. We never lost hope. Now, saying it and doing it are two different things. I’m still not sure how we did it. But we did."
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
....
For Mozeliak’s sake, it is a good thing his viewpoint wasn’t shared by the men in uniform, whose job it is to believe and to fight for life, even when they were 98.9 percent dead.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So...mostly dead?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
it was that damn puffer fish powder!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Y2S: You ever figure out that trivia question?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
wait, someone asked a trivia question?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The one about which player hadn't played in the postseason at any pro level
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
oh right, I did.
I think it was two players out of the active 40. hang on, let me backtrack .Rzep is a borderline case, but he did well enough to be in a featured article in that Appy league series.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
first big dances
Gerald Laird
Corey Patterson
I still have to double-check Adron Chambers. (Actually, it all has to be double-checked.) That’s pretty much it. Even if limited to 2005 and on, and AAA and up, that’s still most of the roster.
The Mafia went all the way to the championship series two years in a row.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Chambers played for Memphis just last year, didn't he?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
he might not have been on the postseason roster
I’ve been trying to find his name in the box scores, though I might’ve missed something.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Does Patterson really count, since he's (hopefully) not on the roster?
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
He's on the roster
Starting pitcher for games 1 and 5
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 18, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand what this means
and for that, I am grateful.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully not.
And then he can take his ring and get the fuck off my team.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
is anyone a little weirded out by Gerald Laird?
is that just me?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Remember that time he and Yadi fought?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I don't even understand what that was.
i mean, nothing against his surprise!offense, but we’ve had a lot of weird dudes as backup catcher. this is the first guy who seems like Billy Bob Thornton in an action movie.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Those are the kinds of clubhouse issues that doomed this team
and led to them watching the Miladelphia Phillers face the New Boston Yank Sox in the World Series at home on their couches.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Fried chicken
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Zaxby's
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Ain't nothin' wrong wit dat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
there's hits in that chicken
said Col—- oh noooooo
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
breaking news involving beer!
BREAKING: Philly Mayor Mike Nutter yet to pay up on NLDS bet with @mayorslay. #1800BETSOFF @jeremykohler
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Seriously, Slay got a much, much better payback from that bet
than what he put up.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe they're sending it via squirrel mail.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Is Slay really as bad as everybody on Twitter makes him out to be?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Heh
Nutter
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 18, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
can i get some honest input...
do i really make myself look like an ass, or do you guys just like to rib me for every little detail? no seriously, honest input would be nice.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
I'm not sure I'm going to answer that on account of you don't actually listen to us when we give you advice.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
or to you period.
ZING
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
that's helping in your campaign, I'm sure.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
honestly
it’s a little bit of both. You make yourself look like an ass, then others goad you into looking more like an ass. It’s a vicious cycle.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i've honestly though about changing my handle.
but you guys would notice. so it wouldn’t really matter.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Posting this message....
makes you look like an ass.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 18, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
After putting Brown Eyed Girl in my own head
You go and replace with that.
Evil.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
here ya go, TB
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. I actually just described my actions above as "ribbing" you (regarding Truman). Weird that we both chose the same dated term.
I do get a bit irritated with the male/female child stuff, as it’s something I hear a ton, but I would have responded the same way to any other poster.
Keep on keepin’ on, fang.
shut up.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you make yourself look insecure :)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
damn.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i know he does.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The only reason people make fun of you is because they know that you have the mental capacity to take it
Nobody wants to pick on a 70 year old or a 12 year old because one will write fifty paragraph rebuttal and the other will resort to dialogue more often found on a Call Of Duty chatlog. Don’t worry, it’s a good thing.
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think you look like an ass
but i’ve never really been on the “beat up on fang train” which is apparently a thing? anyway, i enjoy your contributions here and you are far from annoying in your participation here.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
They're just insecure about their lack of hair
Or in Mysterui’s case, too much.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Colby Lewis announced as game 2 starter
damn, was hoping they would use him in Arlington, dude loves to give up a homer
I would have preferred Holland game 2
which is how they have been going the last two series. Lewis is a good road pitcher, he just gets completely killed by that park.
Holland looked TERRIBLE and as though he might have pooped his pants against the Tigers
Not afraid to nitpick
Well, that's why they're pitching him in St. Louis.
And why they pitched him in Detroit. More of a pitchers park and he usually pitches much better on the road.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I think they have a stuffed Sully on display
and inside Sully’s stomach they found the remains of Nyjer Morgan
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 18, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the old standby themes:
Under the Sea
Moonlight Serenade
Behind the Stadium
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Behind the stadium
sounds like something a shady scalper would say
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 18, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Van Morrison
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Damnit now I have to do rewrite Brown Eyed Girl
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Brown Eyed Squirrel?
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Oct 18, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
This is the correct play
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
So hard to find my way
Running out past home
RoyO saw me just the other day
Said, “That was no pitch I’d thrown.”
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In 1998, my dad left me with a scalper while he went to an ATM to get cash
It was the last game of the season, and he wanted to make sure the scalper didn’t sell the agreed-upon seats while he was gone, but still.
Damn. Did you ever see your dad again?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 18, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
the tortoise tribe eventually acquired him.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
amazingly enough, we got the tickets!
and saw mcgwire hit some dingers! plus jd drew hit a foul ball that kneecapped some lady.
The first injury involving JD Drew
that wasn’t JD Drew
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Is there a "behind the stadium" if the stadium is round?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
one can't truly walk all the way around the way it was with Busch II
well, you can, but it’s not quite the same.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Under the Bleachers?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
we'll be havin' some fun–!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
....what in the world is that.
a trip hazard
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
heh

Welcome to Carp’s Luggage Shack, where we don’t give a fuck if you want to be luggaged or not
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 18, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I smell caption contest!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Oh come on, Texas. Don't you remember that charming smile?
Berk says he might as well eat crow
http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/10/18/11/Berkman-I-was-wrong-about-the-Rangers/landing_rangers.html?blockID=584266&feedID=3582
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
But right about the Cardinals.
So it’s all good.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, "The Ben and Skin Show" exists.
So there’s that.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't Berkman leave a handwritten note for CJ at the All-Star game?
When a puma handwrites you a note, how can you not smile
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 18, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
article on the Guy in the Truck!!
http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_19138502
So yes, it appears Tom Mee got a ring on 06. quotes about Punto and McGwire.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
LOL RAIDERS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Did they something else besides trading for Carson Palmer?
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope, that was about it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
yeah, what a fucking stupid move
I can’t believe the bengals got out of that mess with a positive
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The raiders don’t have a draft pick until the third round of 2016
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I laughed at this.
And then verified.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
All the more reason to try and get a QB
that can help you out until then. Especially when the team you have is capable of winning your division.
I think this move is being poo-poohed, but Palmer grew up in Cali. If he’s successful in turning around his career out there then the Raiders get a franchise QB. That’s not a terrible trade really.
Of course, they could have just taken Phil Rivers when they had the chance.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
THEY TRADED TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS FOR A GUY WHO WAS GOING TO GET CUT
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He wasn't going to get cut.
Wasn’t going to happen. Someone would have dealt for him before they decided to cut him. Which is probably why the Raiders made his move now. I’m sure there were other teams sniffing around as well.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
TWO HIGH ROUND PICKS
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
in this NFL though, with the rookie salary cap scale, those picks are SO effing valuable.
hit on ONE and you have great bargain performance for 4 years.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
CORRECTION: THEY TRADED ONE FIRST ROUND PICK AND A CONDITIONAL 2ND ROUND PICK
FOR A GUY WHO HASN’T BEEN GOOD SINCE 2006 AND WAS EVENTUALLY GOING TO GET CUT
Not afraid to nitpick
AGAIN WITH EVALUATING SOMETHING BASED ENTIRELY ON CONJECTURE.
I’m not saying it was the best trade in pro sports this year and should win an award.*
I am saying that this is a team that is nearly a decade removed from a playoff appearance, just lost their QB for the season, and made a move to bring in someone who could help them make the playoffs this season. In so many words: I can understand the trade. Do I think it’s too much? Probably. But if that’s the asking price then you have to assume that there are other teams interested in making the deal (Miami, for one).
*Clearly, this should go to whoever brought Mike Napoli to the Rangers while giving up basically nothing.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
see, i disagree entirely with this premise.
But if that’s the asking price then you have to assume that there are other teams interested in making the deal (Miami, for one).
from everything the media has said, and everything the Bengals have done, Carson Palmer was not supposed to get traded. Mike Brown wanted to make an example of him. Mike Brown is also an absurdly stubborn man, so this makes quite a bit of sense. you think the Colts didn’t call the Bengals when it was clear Peyton wasn’t going to play? they clearly had no interest in tanking the season for Luck.
Miami, on the other hand (yes, I realize this was just an example, but permit me to rant for a moment), I am sure was NOT interested in making the deal. Miami is interested in going 0-16 and getting Andrew Luck, not getting a mediocre quarterback and winning 4 games instead, just enough to keep them out of the top pick. do you honestly think anything short of Tom Brady would even get Miami to .500?
what I hypothesize happened was that Hue Jackson, now, for better or for worse, almost entirely in control of the Raiders (again, I am basing this premise on media reports), who has worked with Carson Palmer before, saw Campbell go down and got very upset. and Hue Jackson decided he wanted Carson Palmer. I don’t think there WAS an asking price for Carson Palmer- people have called, and the Bengals have just flat said no- they haven’t negotiated before this, as far as we know. the Raiders decided they wanted Carson, and made an offer that even crotchety old Mike Brown could not refuse- especially with a rising young team that only needs a few more pieces to turn into a solid team for several years to come.
just my two cents- I don’t have any hard information here, but it just seems like this is more likely to me.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You may disagree, but this premise isn't any more objective than the one I made:
from everything the media has said, and everything the Bengals have done, Carson Palmer was not supposed to get traded. Mike Brown wanted to make an example of him.
Furthermore, I’m sure that the Colts called them. The issue is that the Colts value their draft picks and the Raiders don’t (although, looking at their last five first round picks, one might wonder if they shouldn’t be trading them for veteran talent or trading down to acquire more second and third rounders like the Patriots do).
They’re not going to give up a good draft pick for Carson Palmer when they can sign Kerry Collins, who actually probably fit their system better anyway if he could still actually play. The problem is that he can’t play anymore, and the Colts are far worse at every other position than most of us anticipated.
I don’t think Miami was interested in making a deal either, but then why in the fuck did they sign Reggie Bush? They already had Daniel Thomas and they let Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown walk so they could get REGGIE BUSH? I mean, that might be the stupidest signing of the entire offseason if you don’t include the Michael Vick extension. They could have signed Darren Sproles for less money and gotten a better player. There’s a reason Parcells got the hell out of Miami a couple of years ago, and Sparano should have followed him out of town if he knew what was good for him. You have the latino version of Dan Snyder running the show down there, and he just goes out and gets guys that he sees in commercials and shit to play on his football team.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I think it was pretty widely known that Mike Brown had no intention of trading Palmer
I’m not expecting [Carson Palmer] to be back. Carson signed a contract, he made a commitment. He gave us his word. We relied on his word and his commitment. We expected him to perform here. If he is going to walk away from his commitment we aren’t going to reward him for doing it," Brown said via the Cincinnati Enquirer when asked about a possible trade.
I'm not going to argue the semantics of a press release.
However, I see nothing in this statement about him being cut either, which is what everyone above seems to be suggesting.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
yeah, there's no way he was going to be cut
that was never going to happen.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
no, it's definitely not more objective.
i’m definitely not “right” here- i just think this is more likely to be what happened.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i thought al davis died.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
@BJRains
B.J. Rains
Westbrook says he is on the roster.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
then is Kmac off?
what about schumaker? FFFUUU
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
So, KMac is apparently off the roster in favor for Westbrook
That’s not really a bad move; they both suck, but westy can induce more groundballs, which is a plus in the arlington bandbox. still, meh.
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Just like the NLDS, a series in which Westbrook did not pitch.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
*1/3 of an inning
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Well SOMEONE has to give us more than one inning
To be honest, another 7 game series with out starters giving us 2 or 3 innings scares the crap out of me.
Westbrook also reports that he has a magic pony that can fly to the moon, and that his car is "made of solid gold.
…actually, I’m sure he really is on the roster, I just couldn’t resist the joke
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
"I'm not greedy," said Westbrook
As long as I’ve got my health, my solid gold house, my rocket car, and my millions of dollars, I don’t need anything else
by dmiles on Oct 19, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
PAINT MY FENCE
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 19, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
kmac would have said the same thing before the NLDS
i’d like more confirmation that bjrain’s twitter
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 18, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
hey i got game 7 tickets!
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Twitter
\o
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;)
how?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
cardinals.com
and a lot of patience. section 446
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there are seats, you just have to keep at it.
but it was weird, this time i got a pop up message that said “congratulations! you have been randomly selected to join the virtual waiting room for a chance to buy tickets!” or something like that.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
damn.
i should tell my brother to get on it.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you bill the time spent acquiring the tickets to "Game 7, LLC?"
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i wish. this whole last week has been very bad
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I hope you don't mind steep heights
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
eh
i sat three rows from the ceiling at chase field for the 2001 nlds. i lived. its actually kind of cool, you can see everything
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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how in the hell
can they have “high transaction volume” when they only have a few hundred tickets MAX? This is so damn frustrating
You'd think the Cardinals had been a doormat for the past decade
and no one had every heard of them. Good grief.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
...one?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
the little banner on the bottom of the screen showing "SOX" is a nice touch as well
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The perma-Red Sox crawl.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
"Curt Schilling: Baseball Analyst"
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Red Sox pitchers drinking beer and eating chicken
is really ticker worthy? WTF ESPN? How lame can that network get?
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
yeah, they should be analyzing two dudes trying to shake hands!
we demand real news!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
now I want to see
the NY Rangers and the Arizona Cardinals play an exhibition baseball game.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This segues nicely from the multi-sport athleticism discussion above.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Indeed
I suspect the rangers would be in good shape at the plate (at least some degree of hand-eye coordination overlap between hockey stick and baseball bat wielding), but I’d be most excited about watching an offensive linesman heading into second to break up a dp.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
i think they should play an exhibition football game
a few hours before first pitch of the Texas@St. Louis
Grit != flat out sucking.
been away from the computer a bit
It seems a World Series featuring the Cardinals is about to get underway.
This is pleasing.
Post’s title garners a rec on its own and reminds me a bit of Wainwright being quoted that it “isn’t like my elbow is about to pop” a couple of weeks before his elbow popped.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
And Eduardo dropping a nice picture for us.

#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
oh no! Bud Norris picks Rangers over Cards
#budchuck intrigued by match-up
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
As long as he's not pitching for them
check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos
McClellan off, according to Rains
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Nice. So is that the only change?
Westy on, Kmac off?
by mick311 on Oct 18, 2011 5:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Heh. That's likely to become a curse here at VEB.
A la, “McClellan off, zoomzoom! Go rain on someone else’s parade!”
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Calcaterra bringin' it
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/your-official-hardballtalk-world-series-preview/
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Woh
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
yeah, that's been making the rounds
old, old old gameshow footage.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Nipsy Russell and Dick Van Patten....
The royalty of the 70’s
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
is anyone else vaguely hoping this will highlight how stupid Interleague schedules are?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes
First thing I thought when I saw the matchup
by LandSickness on Oct 18, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, theyre 6ly flawed
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't tell Y2S
Is anyone else seeing that the SBN search results are no longer exhaustive? It used to be (< two days ago) when you searched, e.g., for a username, you’d get all of their comments. Now a much smaller subset is returned. I can’t tell if it’s filtered by date or something else, but it’s definitely not showing everything, and it’s definitely a very recent change.
do you hear that scream?
it is y2s crying out in anguish.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I've warned about this for years.
but it’s possible it’s also a temporary database thing.
of course, I got poo-poo’d when I pushed for the mods to have physical backup copies of everything in VEB, comments included.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
An email to one of my mailing lists from grad school showed up today that you might appreciate
It was discussing how we could future proof the internet against the possibility (likelihood) of international conflict. A few excerpts:
The idea of a canonical website is good and could be accomplished in a number of ways such that the cost to maintain such a site approaches zero with time while allowing mirroring (for example a bittorrent seed or a tree of hashes allowing anyone to efficiently confirm that their mirror is complete/correct).
I’m concerned that our failure to mirror academic knowledge, after some future conflict, may cause that knowledge and history be forever lost to us.
Failure Mode 1: The internet is based on a certain level of mutual trust among countries. This trust has been built during a brief lull in conflicts (the internet is a product of the current age of innocence). It seems unlikely to me that in a conflict the internet will be strategically neutral. One side will benefit for shutting themselves off, creating devices intentionally incompatible with the global internet. There is a argument to be made that the internet will not survive the next global conflict (although it may regrow in a time of peace afterwards). Thus the wide distribution of this knowledge will prevent it from being trapped in one national internet or incompatible format.
The Library of Alexandra was a wonderful project, but its destruction is still being felt. Going forward it is our obligation to future generations that we make the modern equivalent more robust.
by brackenthebox on Oct 18, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, this is just from my own relatively short experience with social network-type sites
when they fail, they do not give you fair warning. they’re just gone. and no amount of archive site digging brings them back. and no, it’s not always about the network, or the people behind the network. all it takes is one acquisition or natural disaster or someone’s credit gets blown up.
if I were to hypothetically have internet presence… VEB is the only place where I don’t have all of my material backed up and in multiple harddrives. with me.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
now i'm really sad
imagining what will happen when veb dies.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I mean, if you guys don't care about the lboros era, then that's a community consensus
that’s just one thing that someone might be looking for. with data storage these days, it should not be difficult to pack up VEB in someone’s basement. it’s just needless to assume that all this stuff that will appear in no box score and no ESPN vault is just supposed to disappear. it’s the 21st century. demand your flying car.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
AUGH
wait. i thought the SEARCH was just non-comprehensive now.
are you saying the first posts on veb may NO LONGER EXIST?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
no, i'm not being that alarmist
yet
but if you can’t find them, that’s as good as them not existing.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
in theory
this shouldn’t be too hard to do, right? Scrape the site with a python script, throw all the text files on a hard drive and (hopefully) forget about it?
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
yeah, that's I've always thought.
i mean, i’m not technically adept at all, but I have three dl’d programs that do it automatically on other sites. and they scoop comments too.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the only thing we should expect to lose are picture files, IMO.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'll put this on my list
of interesting things to try if I can find the time. I’ve been looking for a project that I could use to learn my way around the python web libraries.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
of course
I should note that most things on that list never get done
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
it's not like I can gloss'rily throw stones.
would've.
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this is a one-liner with wget
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/downloading-entire-web-site-wget
cron it to run regularly, and you’re done. The python scripting could be useful to provide better structuring or search, but archiving the site itself shouldn’t be too tough. Someone just has to actually do it. In fairness, this is basically what sites like archive.org do to the entire internet.
by brackenthebox on Oct 18, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I DO NOT APPROVE OF THIS WHATSOEVER
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
HFS....it's all gone.
Even in the “power search” mode. Nothing from 2008 – 2010 for me. All of my little pebbles dropped to find things, and there gone.
dan’s gonna hear about this.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
well, on the bright side, I won't have to chronicle any Colby memes
oh, too soon?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
use google!
if you’re looking for a specific date, it’s easier….searching for a while year would be tough.
But entering [riverrat (date) site:vivaelbirdos.com] would turn up stuff. There are some cache sites out there that might have old pages backed up. I don’t know how far back the SBN database goes.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
completely useless if looking for a specific date.
completely useless if looking for all instances of a phrase (trust me).
completely useless if needing to search comments instead of fanposts.
I’ve been there — google does not cut it.
would've.
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interesting for an image search though.
I’m on the hunt for the wizard at this moment.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
pictures and captions pulled by AP
would've.
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they're
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not surprising but just to confirm
miklasz Bernie Miklasz
Carpenter and Garcia for sure; but discussion will be Games 3 and 4. But for now Lohse and Jackson.
So,
Lohse for 3 (and, thus, 7)? I wondered about this. Not sure if I like it or not, probably not. Lohse does seem to be a bit more consistent than Jackson. Albeit, that consistency is not as good as when Jackson is “on”.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i'm kind of surprised by that
rather have jackson in a game 7 at home than lohse. you can argue it either way though
Freaking MLB network cuts off TLR press conference so they
can put a microphone in front of Kevin friggin Millar
If it doesn't show World Series press conferences in their entirety,
what is the point of the MLBN?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
SNIPERS
might be SBN’d, i’m seein’ some weird sh*
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sh**
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
in fairness, i oddly shift-A'd this thread when it was at like 900 comments earlier
having not read 95% of them, so i’m only reading like 400 of them.
i do that sometimes. i’m really not sure why.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I skipped the entire comparative athletics bit at the top
whoooooo carrrrrrrrrres
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
blah blah blah LeBron can jump really high
on that note, not sure who it was, maybe fourstick, but there’s no way LeBron is the fastest baseline to baseline player in the NBA. maybe fastest small forward- maybe fastest small forward EVER, but if you try to tell me LeBron is faster than even, say, Ray Felton, I just don’t believe that. and I watch a LOT of NBA.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
this just in!
Albert Pujols shakes hands with Ron Washington!
BBTN replaces coffee table with full desk!
AAaaahh!
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Kurkjian
I spoke to Chris Carpenter and he assured me he would be ready to go
…
he spoke like a guy who was going to go out there and pitch really well
and then Timmeh peed his pants.
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh rats
it’s SBN deadhour.
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he's got a lot of confidence, and he's the ace.
would've.
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you don't wake up in the morning planning for your starters to go short
would've.
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i'm trying to translate
I had the volume turned down way too low, though.
would've.
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now he says get Cruz to chase.
would've.
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You guys stop making jokes about Timmy Kurk's height already!
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
haha, it's Ozzie Guillen and Kruk
would've.
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CJ Wilson says
I’ll stand behind whatever [Nolan Ryan] says, because he can beat people up.
would've.
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Know your opponent
MLBN web simulcast. They’re breaking down the Rangers now.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 6:43 PM EDT reply actions
Isn't it odd?
The Rams’ schedule seems downright prescient at this point. As we were finishing the Brewers off, the Rams were up in Wisconsin as well. Now that we’re prepping to face the Rangers… the Rams are getting ready to play the Cowboys. I can only take this as evidence that we’re going to play some mythical team from New Orleans after this Rangers series is over.
Or the remainder of the Rams' season will be cancelled
due to lack of interest.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 18, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
if only
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by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
No
They’re better off just going 0-16, winning the Andrew Luck sweepstakes, and then parlaying that pick into multiple picks in the 2012 and 2013 draft to address actual areas of need. I think Bradford would be fine if they could just block in front of him and give him someone to throw to.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
it is going to be absolutely disgusting if this happens and Luck gets traded to Dallas or the Niners
because we know both those teams would dramatically overpay for him, and would also both probably turn into a powerhouse for the next 10+ years.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think either of those teams would overpay to grab Luck in the top spot
and they won’t have a shot anyway. The Rams aren’t going to deal the top pick for a pick that’s 20th or later in the draft in 2012 — they’re going to dangle it out there to the other teams with potentially top 5 picks that need QB’s, like Miami, Seattle, Denver, Kansas City, and Indy (assuming Manning is hurt as bad as reports indicate) and take the best offer given to them by one of those other teams.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
completely agree.
the rams have their quarterback and the foundation for a good defense, they just need to friggin’ block and catch the damn ball.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 19, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
This is assuming that running backs in the NFL have any trade value
Unless they’re named Adrian Peterson or Darren McFadden they really don’t. And Peterson probably doesn’t have a ton of value now that he’s signed a deal guaranteeing him a lot of money.
I would guess that you could get a 2nd and 4th round pick for Jackson, but not a 1st rounder. He’s been fairly banged up the past couple of seasons and his best years are likely behind him at this point.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I agree. But a 2nd and a 4th rounder will be more valuable than Jackson going forward.
Assuming the Rams dont eff up the picks, so…
"He probably misses his old glasses."
given their recent history
Long, good pick, Bradford good pick, But they were all first rounders, how many 2nd and 4th rounders are playing for the Rams now?
Grit != flat out sucking.
I dunno about that
I think this team is one good draft and a free agent signing away from being a pretty good team. The defense is already pretty good, they just need a decent CB that can cover. You have a good young QB and a solid running back but the WR corps has been decimated by injuries the last couple of seasons to the point where the passing game just doesn’t scare anyone right now.
I think Jackson might have more value to the Rams the next couple of years than a couple of middle round picks would be. Especially if you can put a good team around him for the first time in his career.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Jackson wouldn't command that in a trade market.
I’d be pleasantly surprised with just a 3rd round pick and that’s just not worth it.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 19, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
hundred year old guy winning marathon
never seen a cubs world series championship
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
omg there is a tarp on the field!
would've.
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SKIP SCHUMAKER ACTIVATED
would've.
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Guillen says, ask the pitcher first, with all the trainers and people and stuff;
Dunc and TLR should know Carp because they’ve known him for so long.
would've.
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Tim Kurkjian says to Guillen and Kruk that they probably didn't use "cryotherapy" back in the day.
long pause. Ravech asks if they know what that is.
would've.
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three dudes show up behind the fence!
you go, three dudes.
would've.
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more dudes are showing up.
would've.
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how is everyone's World Series Eve going?
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
Drinking hot tea and decorating our World Series tree.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Tom, Santa Gluas isn't real.
If you’re dad had ever come back from the ATM, you would have known this by now.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
that wasn't me
this time
would've.
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i think it's a damn shame to be using the old elvis shots
come on, a little more love for the Berk.
would've.
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Hopefully!
We’re sitting a Bud and a turkey leg by the fireplace tonight!
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
nervous
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I'm debating on whether or not to clean out the refridgerator
I really don’t want to, but I guess I should
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
confirmation from Mount Pleasant that the Cards did have sparkling grape juice to go with the champagne.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
MLBN interview with Sauce.
First question about vision… “I’m not that blind”
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions
sure, Jason
keep telling them that
would've.
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the next time Motte pitches
will be the first time I can ever remember being interested in watching how the pitcher gets the ball back from the catcher.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
it's a little scary for the hitter.
would've.
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has he been doing that consistently?
I always figured he just needed to pace around the mound….
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
most of the time
it’s part of his circuit. sometimes it seems like the pitch isn’t even in Yadi’s glove and he’s off the mound.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I would search for my original comments in 2008
but. hahaha.
would've.
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this made me really sad :[
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Vasgersian's top play of the postseason:
Carp getting shredded after NLDS game 5.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
that was an amusing exchange
after Ravech asks Ozzie about something he said about his old pitching coach, it ends with hesitant Kruk and then Ravech goes “Did you two ever fight?”
I never fight him, but he might get me killed!
would've.
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they're talkin' Freese now.
would've.
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it is creepily cool to watch the shadows grow into full darkness behind them.
and hey, same thing outside my window!
would've.
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that might be a shot at us, eh?
would've.
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so you can see it
yeah it could be heh. someone made the comment “the mcgwire squirrel”
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
PEDs are a favorite excuse
among the fanbases of teams that the Cards beat. Been going on for a long, tiresome time.
Someone at FakeBCB brought it up too.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
and of course Tony is a drunk, cause he got a DUI
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
well
this was actually on the rally squirrel’s page. so for the most part it was for fun (but yeah one person had to bring it up).
I’ve grown to expect people to hate the Cardinals to some extent. sort of like how people hate the Yankees (except with no logic)
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of PED's
Am I the only one surprised this issue never came up with Mark McGwire after he became the hitting coach? I remember a ton of hoopla when it was first announced, but after the season started, the media suddenly stopped caring. Thank goodness for that.
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Other fans still love to use it as a crutch.
But, yeah, after he came clean it all went away. Which is how most people thought it would go.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, well, other fans will use *anything* they can find as a crutch
but I agree, I’m pretty satisfied with how that whole thing turned out
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He honestly and openly admitted it.
No running, hiding, denying, and it took the wind right out of their sails. If he had done it 5 years earlier, life wouldn’t have been nearly as difficult.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
"Someone"
By that, you mean basically the whole fucking community.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 18, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
thats just wrong
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it is really weird
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
looks like a fucking tarantula.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
By George, that's brilliant!!
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
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damn, I got less than nothin' done today. sigh.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i've noticed at least twice recently
that i’m getting RTs from people for whom i have RTs turned off
anyone else?
also occasionally tweets will not show up in my timeline. i’ll know because someone will reply to a tweet i haven’t read and i’ll look for it to see how i missed it and it’s not there
twitter, functionally, sucks
I think if they add to the RT you get it.
I also don’t always get tweets. It’s annoying.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
MLBN Paths to the Championship
Now, Texas.
In a hour, Philadelphia Milwaukee Atlanta St. Louis
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
for Cardinals fans only
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/html_eb7e7968-eb3b-11e0-99ea-001a4bcf6878.html
would've.
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i get a little nervous that the other side's looking at it
which is completely paranoid, because surely they have even better stats than that
would've.
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the one for Berkman does not include any data from LHP
which makes me wonder how accurate the whole thing is.
Looks cool though.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Leach on the roster additions
for those of you looking for more info
would've.
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I really don't get Schu being on there.
Other than pure loyalty, why put a guy on there that is of questionable health? Especially, when you’ve got a speedy kid in Chambers.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
everyone, now!
because….
would've.
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and again I say
ffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu…..
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU THINK SCHUMAKER WON'T GET THE GWRBI IN A DECISIVE SERIES GAME?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
once in his lifetime
and it already happened
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
especially especially when Texas has so many lefty pitchers
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
the logic side of my brain just screamed
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Chambers is also lefthanded.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
but he's fast and not hurt
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
(The answer is actually, Tyler Greene.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
make you a deal
I say we throw both Schu and Theriot off and replace them with Greene AND Chambers. How would that suit you?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
all Skip is going to do is take minutes away from Punto
Punto’s a much better fielder, even if Schumaker is marginally a better hitter vs RHP. Go figure.
Then again, Skip had the winner against Halladay, so the only thing I can do is ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
doesn't dividing by zero cause black holes?
not cool, man, not cool at all.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Anyone else going stir crazy w/ 2 days of no playoff baseball?
I feel I’ve been spoiled by this October.
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 8:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
is there a condensed version of game 6 around anywhere?
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 8:43 PM EDT reply actions
or heck
the whole game, either or
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
condensed
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I gave up and shift+A'd 2/3 of this thread
Hope I didn’t miss anything very important.
Still not a werewolf.
It was a wise move.
Did you bring any baseball with you?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
...you're not creepy enough?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
gnaw it into a passable bat, I guess.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
isn't there a movie about that... that one guy who always eats carrots.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
it's with that british guy
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
if that's the one with the baby, yes.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never seen the move.
I just used the great power of google.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
i was overtabbed, so thanks
it’s surprisingly difficult to fanshot on the fly
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
read the catchers article.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
weirdly, I had already done that this morning.
I think this means someone I respect tweeted it this morning.
Still not a werewolf.
hrm. well, Westy and Schu are in.
board Busch Stadium like you’re boarding a plane.
and uhm. oh yes, I’m not telling you about SBN search. we agreed not to tell clank, right?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I actually noticed the SBN problems a day or two ago
I thought maybe it was an error and would go away.
Aw hell
Still not a werewolf.
i need to read that
also, everyone claims that it’s interesting,but no one has anything to say about it.
so i’m not sure
but i don’t have time to read it now
you doubt VEB?
alas, pj.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
just got done with it a little bit ago
it’s long. It’s interesting. Many very well-thought out graphs. Yadi ranks highly.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
it looked long
and it looked like it required the mindset of reading a scientific research paper. don’t know if i can get into that mindset tonight
there are pretty pictures.
i liked it.
math is my enemy.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ten minutes
Probably less for anybody with young eyes, because the subscripts are hard to read and blowing it up to where I can read them means a lot of lateral scrolling
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
the little triangles on each of the graphs made them make a lot more physical sense
towards the last third of the article, I started skipping some of the fine print though cause I wanted to get to the conclusion.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
should we invite the Lone Star Ball folks over?
they need to join VEB tonight so they can post here tomorrow if they like to
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
who's telling them about the no politics rule
and will they actually believe us
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what a joke.
next it’ll be one day and it’ll only take one rec to turn things green.
WHO WILL PRESERVE THE PURITY OF OUR SITE
jokes and jokes and jokes
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
wait, purity?
am i in the wrong site?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the purity of VEB
isn’t the dictionary definition of purity, really.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
you're talking in a biblical sense, right?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
had to be said
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't remember if I signed up two days ago or three.
But never fear, I’m here now. And just in time for game day. Here’s to a good series.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I was over there the other day.
Seem like an okay bunch for the most part. Don’t really seem to care much about other sites but I could be wrong. they were hospitable. Seem to be rather certain that they’re going to run roughshod over us.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
so, friends of mine ask me to hold the 4 extra tickets i have for game one for them
so i don’t list them
tonight they call me and tell me they “changed their mind because it’s too cold so they don’t want to make the four hour trip just to freeze in the stadium”
needless to say that friendship has been cancelled
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I could be there by noon tomorrow.
Unfortunately, I’ll be at work instead.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
wuss
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
GIVE THEM TO ME!
but not really.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
who cares how cold it is? ITS THE WORLD SERIES!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
literal fairweather fans
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 18, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
email selqniq at gmail
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I'm no poet and I haven't seen anything similar to this yet...
’Twas the night before the World Series and all through the stadium, not a player was stirring except for Mark Rzepczynski. The balls and gloves were hung by the lockers with care, with hopes the rally squirrel would bring wins to share….
Anyone care to make this better for me?
2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!
by mtzxc on Oct 18, 2011 8:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
"THAT'S A WINNER!!"
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 18, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The old posts are still there, guys.
They just don’t seem to be searchable. Hopefully this isn’t permanent or all hope is lost.
Still not a werewolf.
reply better, asshole.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
do me a favor and just don't reply to my posts anymore.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
alright boys that's enough
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
touchy.
and still not listening.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm not interested in listening to you.
it’s a simple request. really.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, fine.
but I reply fast to anyone — I don’t necessarily look at their screenname. whatever gets put out there gets replied to. this being a public forum and everything.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's okay, Y2S, you can still reply to mine.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
you really ARE a masochist
impressive
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you oughta see me in real life
this is nothing
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
is this serious?
is there some feud here of which i was previously unaware?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
don't look at me
I reply to everyone the same way
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that sort of ducks the question.
i’m just confused because fang seems serious.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i obviously won't presume to speak for fang
for myself, as I said, I reply to whatever’s there. if I’m inconsistent, i’m one of the few posters with no small sample sizes, y’all can judge for yourselves. if he does not want that, then alright. if the mods don’t come to me with anything, then alright.
my feud with entropy is far more concerning to me.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
humblebrag
if I’m inconsistent, i’m one of the few posters with no small sample sizes, y’all can judge for yourselves.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not exactly proud of it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i know, i'm just grinding your sprockets
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a family blog
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
that's nice
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
do i really make myself look like an ass, or do you guys just like to rib me for every little detail? no seriously, honest input would be nice.
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - Wiki - PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE
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Follow me @thestlcardsfan4
by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 18, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well that time was completely intentional.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this a good opportunity to mention that correcting someone's grammar uninvited is incredibly douche-y?
Still not a werewolf.
or that correcting someone's grammar with additional bad grammar is also incredibly douching?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
AW. douchey
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
fine.
please correct your subjunctive.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
URRITE
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Reports that Red Sox players drank beer in the dugout proved false.
New reports from team sources indicate that it wasn’t actually beer — it was Bud Light.
(I’ll be here all night, remember to tip your waitresses)
by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
heh.
A week ago last Sunday was my best friend’s 40th birthday party. We had it at a winery that just happened to have Shiner Blonde.
So I get one cuz I like it. One of my older nephews was there with his wife and they both looked at me like I was nuts. All this was while my nephew was drinking a Bud Lite. I just shook my head and laughed, what else can you do?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
ding ding ding
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
zombie birds!!!
i like it. who dunnit?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm not sure there are many conflicted blondes involved, though.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
GAW
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
noooo, we don't want to invoke him...
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
STAB!
one of my all time favorite memes.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
one of the few that i had a small part
in fostering. and then he never was very good.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
almost pure awesome
they needed to change that signature from alfred hitchcock to tony larussa
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
or screenplay by Torty Craig, directed by the Busch Stadium Squirrel
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yes they could throw them in there somewhere
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
6-3-5!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Washington Post
"Holliday’s the biggest human being I’ve ever seen," the Rangers’ Ian Kinsler said. "He’s humongous. And you’ve got Pujols right in front of those guys."
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's landed here before
i like confirmation from field level that Matt is indeed that huge, setting aside camera tricks and views from a distance
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
green. come again, please
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to clean the fridge before my new roommate moves in
aren’t I nice?
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
only if you don't put anything in the fridge which leaps out.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I remember my parents used to have some nasty leftovers lurking in the back of the fridge
that I would have to dispose of. worst chore ever.
luckily I don’t have any leftovers. I’ll report if I find anything interesting though.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I said nice not overly generous
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
it establishes a reciprocal baseline
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
true
I’ll fill with beer for the weekend
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
CFIC is the one with the scary roommates?
I’ve forgotten.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
CFIC's our lovable craigslist killer.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 18, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I discovered it on my own a few days ago and hoped it was a glitch
The old posts still exist, so I’ve got my fingers crossed
Still not a werewolf.
speaking of the craigslist killing and SBN searches
The origin of that is here. It’s cropped up a few other times, but this is the genesis. Also, CFIC is a good sport and I like him all the better for that.
Getting around the search issues is tricky.
Still not a werewolf.
I just steal their souls once they live here
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
he went to the school of the art institute of chicago
and plays drums to his own animations. so probably yes.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
something baseball-y for you legal types. or legal for you baseball types?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-simzak/world-series-antitrust_b_1018431.html
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The HBO documentary on Curt Flood was both fascinating and sad.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
yeah. what a story. and everything leading up to it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
News update
Ryan Howard is from St. Louis.
Also, the Cardinals won the NLDS.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
B-Ref lists Matt Holliday's nickname as Big Daddy.
I’m sure this has been reported before, but I happen to be looking at it right now.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 9:31 PM EDT reply actions
Hollidy gave an interview in September that clarified this abomination
“That’s not really my nickname. Clint Hurdle used to call me that, but it didn’t really catch on… so I only hear that about every now and then when I see Clint.”
interview here
Still not a werewolf.
clank comin' in with the research
ba-bam
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He took grounders at third,
then they told him to go back to the outfield.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt says Theriot doesn't work out much
once in the first half, once in the second half. Heh, heh, heh.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
MLBN spending too long on NLCS Game 1?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Eh. Whatever.
And now, disgusted Marcum
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
MLB columnist talking about how WS needs magic. there better be magic!
oookay.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Who's the Maiar on the team?
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 18, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
A friend of mine that went to game 6
just told me after the Pujols/Braun play at first, the Brewer fan behind him said, “I hope they shoot Pujols like they shoot a horse” Overall he said Brewers fans are the worst he’s seen in any park…and he averages 5 games a year at Wrigley.
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
Weird. Rarely hear of trouble at Miller Park.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
there's no way to tell if they're fairweathers, though.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
True.
But if the team continues to have success, fairweathers can turn into the new normal.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah. doesn't bode well.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
thats true
I think the worst thing I ever heard at a ballpark was right after AnKiel ran into the OF wall trying to make a catch in 09. There were a few minutes of silence over the ballpark and then some idiot Philly fan a few sections over yelled out, “You suck Ankiel! Go use some more HGH!” as he’s still lying there on the warning track with trainers and the team all around him. Phillie fans, classy as always, even on the road.
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
They really do dislike StL
Because of 1982. But I’ve been there twice wearing Cardinal gear and had nothing more than good-natured hassle directed at me. And I cheer loud.
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Oct 18, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
girlfriendup and family are brewers fans
and pretty well behaved. I’ve been to miller park once or twice and it was definitely a better experience than wrigley or fenway.
they aren't the enemy after you beaten them
Now they are one of the colonies.
Grit != flat out sucking.
The guys behind me at Busch for game 5 were ordering a hooker during the game.
So, you know… Judging a fan base by a fan or four normally isn’t a great idea.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Heh. condensed game just showed Greinke bouncing the ball off his chest
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
Game highlights, that is.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
Betanwicket.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Game 6 highlights now.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Oh, I was hoping you were liveblogging an imaginary game
in the absence of baseball.
Still not a werewolf.
I'm sorta liveblogging MLBN
or randomly commenting.
It’s a 50/50 proposition.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
keep fighting the good fight.
i’m going to go eat some candy.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wow, I thought Bernie had the florid prose
waxing poetic about the Brewers collapse
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Block those metaphors! Block those mixed metaphors! Block those puns!
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
i'm wondering how inebriated he was.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I shouldn't talk, though, i'm really liable to blog like that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
he said "offence"
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
He should apologise for that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Even inebriated, your filters would work better than that, I'll warrant.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
...
Mark Patterson
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Oct 19, 2011 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions
my netbook is going to burst into flames and burn my apartment to the ground
VEB will be responsible
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 18, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Just wait til tomorrow's gamethreads
hoo boy
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Sunday night was the most traffic EVAR in a gamethread on VEB
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
How many people actually were able to read everything?
Comments were flying.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
[raises hand meekly]
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
People, not SBN servers.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
how dare you call me an SBN
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
servers will just go down.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Does VEB have it's own special servers or is it just part of SBN servers?
I don’t think SBN would die in the latter case
Sig WIP
And then we all move to Twitter
and break that.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think SBN's been around long enough to know they need extra hamsters for traffic spikes
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
if we stop now, though, TBender will be left alone.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Check your warranty.
VEB is specifically exempted.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
what did you think of that song I put up for you earlier?
I figured it would help you forget about that crappy song that azru quoted.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Just listening now.
I recognize the chorus so I’ve heard it before.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Wife heard the last half
and wanted the link. Says we heard it at the TRF or Durty Nelly’s on the Riverwalk.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I figured you probably had heard it before.
A buddy of mine gets hammered and will just start belting it out in the middle of a bar. he usually gets a free beer out of it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
OMG
The Hairston double error.
STOP THAT BALL RICKIE WEEKS!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I still feel disbelief about his effort there.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
my wife was open-mouthed over that.
she kept looking at the screen and then at me. ‘I can’t believe I just saw that’
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
"oh the humanity"
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
...
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you know Jerry Hairston Jr is part of three generations of beisbol?!?!?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
And I hate every last one of them.
All of them.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you feel about Boones?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Totally OK with them.
Just Hairstons.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
nah, I laughed harder when there were two Pirates out at third.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
this one stands out in my memory
especially Yadi’s reaction
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
and... Boog.
sniff.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet it's in d-dee's massive year-end multipost.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It's mentioned, but no link
Searching MLB’s site tells me that a video clip was not made (hence the lack of link)
Still not a werewolf.
really? I've seen it on MLB though.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
is there a date?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm trying to open an overflow, so hang on
but you might be able to find it by searching the date → more from game → clip
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember that now
god that was hilarious.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
woooooooo
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
well in context
Yadi was so happy because he got caught on it previously. they explained the rule to him, and so he knew for sure.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
it's reassuring that the ump knew the rule
he gives the low-key call for McCutchen, and then when LaRoche wanders off he gives the big theatrical call.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
And it ends with
#HAPPYFLIGHT.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Just watching this path to the WS thing on DVR
We were down 4-0 to Cliff Lee in game 2 after losing game 1 in a 5 game series. Unreal.
is there a list of VEB folks on twitter?
by DJ Jazzy Jeff Weaver on Oct 18, 2011 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
Don’t know how complete it is.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Here's a good place to start
https://twitter.com/#!/CodeeG/veb
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
...
JohnMarecek John Marecek RT by StLHugo
Great Wainwright line: “I told someone that it’s nice to know that next year I only have to go five, with the bullpen going four,” #stlcards
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
i love Waino
he’s got to really be restless not getting a shot at it this year
he’s still in there and is chief cheerleader
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, that's not fair Theo. Jed's gone. gone! you can't take him from the Padres. ship, sailed.
this is CPR, not Frankenstein’s monster.
/reading headlines only.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh man
i just increased the water pressure in my shower about 50 fold
it slowly gotten worse and worse. apparently there are holes. and calcium or something clogs the holes. so poked the holes and now it’s way better than it’s ever been
every day of my life was like that episode of seinfeld where they installed low flow shower heads
Oh my gosh, I did the same thing for my sink
I opened the nozzle and wiped all the gunk and rocks out, and then it was like a waterfall
I love increasing my quality of life without paying or spending more than 15 minutes
Sig WIP
like i'm seriously considering going to bed right now
just so that it can be tomorrow sooner and i can shower.
also, my minimum shower time is greatly reduced since rinsing my hair will take about 5 minutes less time
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
shower pressure is
probably in my top 10—hell, 5—concerns when looking at new apartments. Yes, I ask about it and turn the shower on. I basically want it shredding the skin off me.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
i'll concur with that
but when i moved here, i wasn’t in a financial position to be picky
things like this are why i’m in such a hurry to graduate
by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
shredding?

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
he looks like a bull fighter or flamenco dancer
Ole, motherfuckers!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
you could also get some CLR and clean it off
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude.
Let them revel in their moments. Don’t give up the secrets that quickly.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Little life lessons like this are pretty great.
You feel like you’ve just discovered electricity or something when you work something like that out on your own.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
just don't ask VEB when to call 911
or to babysit.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I know.
I just can’t help but want to make life a little easier on people. it’s in my DNA.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You gotta douche it
soak the showerhead in some vinegar overnight
"He probably misses his old glasses."
wait, there's a gala?
well, they clearly have the David Freese experience going
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Hey, VEB! I had this weird dream that fang and Y2S killed each other,
and then clank punched cardfan4 (who had been correcting someone’s geography regarding the Balkan Peninsula) and everyone was spinning.
Weird.
you SLEPT?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
what did they look like?
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
what I figured!
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
but seriously, winter sucks
i’ve got that winter feeling right now. i think i would be content if it were somewhere between 85 and 105 all the time.
I LURV WINTER. I literally did a little happy skip in the parking lot tonight due to the chill in the air.
I love fall, for sure.
Probably doing the river road trip this weekend.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Drive from Alton, through Elsah,
Grafton, around Marquette state park, across the ferry into Brussels, around Calhoun, and across the other ferry into St. Charles.
Do it every year.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed. I love winter.
It dropped to the low 20s, high teens for a few days last winter and those were my favorite days of the year.
I normally like it between 35-70
Still not a werewolf.
gah
you’re making me miss St. Louis. Winter back home was like hanging out with a kinda edgy character in a divey bar; you wouldn’t want to spend too much time around him, but it feels bold and exciting for a little while.
Winter in Boston is a guy with a bat who takes you out at the knees and then stands over you, screaming at you to put your teeth on the curb. And this somehow continues for 4 f’ing months.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Ugh. My brother and his wife lived in Boston while she was finishing her degree at BU
I heard terrible, terrible things.
I live in Austin and winters are disappointing here
Still not a werewolf.
MADISON FTW! WOOOOO!
Lots of snow. Cold, but not painful temperatures. Competent road crews and drivers. Stunning frozen lakes to stare at and play broomball on.
try Maine
it’s like Boston, except with an extra month
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
although, i'm fairly sure RiverRat has us all beat.
last i remember it was snowing outside for him, i think that was in June
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
My wife's from Maine and she says the winters are worse out here.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
well, i was in StL in February and there was about 3 feet of snow back home, while I was wearing shorts. but maybe it was a off weekend.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
for her, it's the fact that it's so open out here
and the wind. Apparently there’s no wind in Maine.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
depends on where you are, i'm sure
but i feel that- bone chilling wind in the middle of winter is the WORST.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
what town are you in out there?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
just moved out of Maine, actually
but I was in Lewiston for the past 4 years.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
heh. my wife used to live there.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
small world.
I went to Bates College.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll have to ask her about it.
Since you’ve been there, is Gifford’s the best ice cream on the planet? she swears up and down that it is. I say that it’s okay.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I do like Gifford's
but i would hardly say it’s the best in the world. on the other hand, i was born in Connecticut, and my Maine-born friends would say the same thing about Gifford’s. Mainers seem to have a lot of pride in their stuff- and I can’t judge that!
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
How did it feel to be from away?
that just cracks me up when we go back there. Somebody asks where I’m from, so I tell them, and they just say ‘Oh, so you’re from away?‘. And it doesn’t matter where you’re from or how long you’ve lived there.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
well
i spent the majority of my time at college-student friendly places, and Bates, while it does get 25% or so of its kids from Maine, draws pretty heavily on the rest of New England and elsewhere.
i’ve also been spending some portion of my summer in the middle of nowhere all the way upstate in Maine for my entire life, so I’ve got a handle on the Mainers…
but yes, it’s amusing. they are funny people.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I fucking hate winter.
Despise it with a white hot hate of a 1000 suns. if I wanted to be cold I’d move to Alaska.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm with you
the only useful thing about winter is that my basement gets cold enough to ferment beer.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
I'm cool with cold
it’s the darkness which I do not appreciate.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
One year we drove up to visit during Christmas.
Left Houston: 53 deg.
Arrived in Metropolis, IL: -7 deg.
Hate.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
(Next morning woke up to Weather Channel showing 2 foot of snow in Corpus.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I drove up to Waukegan with my nephew one Christmas so he could see his dad.
it was almost the same thing. Got out in Kankakee to fill up and got met with a 35 mph wind. HFS was that a rude awakening.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i like the cold
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
he's from Connecticut.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i like winter sports, and ice skating, and fires
and lots of cold weather stuff
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
whereabouts in CT?
that was my stomping ground before I continued my northeastward migration up to Boston
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
New Haven area
trying to migrate toward Boston myself.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
heh, we almost certainly have some mutual acquaintances
I ran an office in New Haven for several summers that employed a bunch of local folks about your age. Small-ish world.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
wanna get me a job?
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
:P
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
but shit, what a thread for this small world!
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
well, depending on the how crappy of a job you want
since “pretty crappy” would describe the only ones I have the power to point people to. In any event, it is apparently your day for random overlaps with VEBers.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
try working in it everyday
you’ll learn to hate it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
This. This. This.
Sorry Freese.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
of all the things that fall from the sky onto me
freezing rain is the only one that doesn’t evoke the slightest bit of positive feeling
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I feel the same way about meteors.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 18, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
a gem, late in the life of the thread!
this will get much less attention than it deserves, but have a rec.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It's at 5 and may get greened yet.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wee! Possibly my first green ever.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 18, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
because none of you have to deal with it on a daily basis.....
Ooooh I love the winter. Fuck that, it’s below freezing right now. The high might get to 45 today, and it’s not even winter yet.
Gah….I need to move south.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
75-100 range is good for me
especially down on the river in an aluminum cook stove slamming brewdogs
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
every time I see that Hornsby quote about winter, I nod my head
I can deal with the cold, within reason, but it’s the fucking snow & ice that piss me off….
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
this. Although, I really hate cold.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
OVERFLOW
jump into the late night
sorry it’s so late
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Game #1 Lineup
Looking to run my final simulation of Game #1 of the World Series and wanted to get feedback from you guys on the most likely lineup that the Cardinals put out (including position played). Here is what I currently have. The most important thing is getting the right nine guys. Thanks in advance!
Rafael Furcal 6
Allen Craig 8
Albert Pujols 3
Lance Berkman 9
Matt Holliday 7
David Freese 5
Yadier Molina 2
Ryan Theriot 4
Chris Carpenter 1
Jay instead of Craig.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Oct 19, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And hitting 7th or 8th?
With Freese 2nd?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I'm scared it will be Theriot second, actually.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah probably correct.
NB agrees below.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
there's no way Craig is playing center
I mean, anything’s possible with TLR but all of our CFs are lefties. I think it’ll be this….
Furcal 6
Theriot 4
Pujols 3
Berkman 9
Holliday 7
Freese 5
Yadi 2
Jay 8
Carp 1
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
yeah, that
unless Holliday and Berkman flip.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking about that
it went Holliday/Berkman almost all the time during the reg. season. But then Holliday had the hand issues at the very end of the season and when he came back, Tony was going Berkman/Holliday.
I think Berk 4th/Lego 5th gives Tony some flexibility against lefty relievers (forget the guy’s name now, not Oliver).
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
yeah
i think you’re probably right.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Gonzalez?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
yeah, that's who I was trying to think of
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
have fun predicting the lineups when we're in Texas
here’s my best guess. As far as I know, it’s going to be Holland-Harrison-Wilson, all lefties, in Texas.
Furcal 6
Craig 9
Pujols 3
Berkman DH
Holliday 7
Freese 5
Molina 2
Theriot 4
Jay 8
You’d expect Schumaker is going to sit in those games. I have no idea what he’s going to do with Punto. The likelihood of the lineup being the same for all 3 of those games is very close to nil, I’d imagine….I could see Berkman getting a start in right, Craig in left, and Holliday at DH for one game, for example.
Tony is going to have a field day with these lineups. NL teams do not usually have a guy with a bat like Craig’s hanging around on the bench.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
goodness.
that lineup is disgusting. Jon Jay is a pretty fucking good #9 hitter.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
...
Furcal 6
Craig 9
Pujols 3
Berkman DH
Holliday 7
Freese 5
that’s gotta be up there with the 1-6’s in baseball.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
That #7 ain't bad either.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
that too
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
especially when he's had a career year at the plate.
if Texas was pitching Lewis at home, I’m pretty sure Schumaker would be playing 2nd, but it should be Punto.
I don’t know about y’all but having three switch hitters in one lineup is fucking cool.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Herzog agrees...
S Coleman
S McGee
S Herr
R Clark
L Van Slyke
S Pendleton
L Porter
S Smith
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Those were the days !
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 19, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
that's not something I would want to pitch to
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 19, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
unbelievable
I forgot that the dh could actually help us
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 19, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
theriot batting 2nd
gah!
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 19, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
although I guess furcal then theriot could wear down the pitcher pretty fast
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 19, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
as long as they don't do that first swing hacking shit
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 19, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah the key is long at bats
not getting out quickly
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 19, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Simulation Results
Here are the simulation results for tomorrow’s game. I posted them over at BtB as a neutral site. I will put this link up again in tomorrow’s pre-game thread. Good luck.
by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2011 1:20 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
thanks d00d
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Seems to favor the Cardinals by a hair over the top 20 most possible outcomes...
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
that's a bias related to the probability of the home team winning by a single run, not necessarily an edge to the cards
Even when the overall probability of a win is 50% for both teams, the home team will have more games at the top of the rankings. I wrote a fanpost a while back looking at this here (unfortunately the images were hosted on my expired school webspace and are thus gone).
In this case, he says the cards do have a slight edge (53%), but it’s not easy to extract that from the rankings of specific scores.
by brackenthebox on Oct 19, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
So 40 degrees tomorrow
Ball won’t be carrying at all I wouldn’t think. Time for Carp to go game 5 NLDS on their ass.
Greetings from Phuket. Went diving yesterday. Great metaphor. Small leopard shark minding its business, and some chick wearing a pink wet suit adn flippers. . .
with a “ranger” brand name provoked the shark that lurched after her. Hilarious watching her split and probably piss herself. Thought maybe of what it’s like for Texas to imagine facing Mott in the 9th. ..
See you bright and early tomorrow in Thailand. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Lotsof hyper-sensitivity in this thread
WS jitters have VEB on edge, it would seem
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 19, 2011 7:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
there are two overflows, don't be hangin' here.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
How did that sore elbow work out for you? LOL
Chris Carpenter is a gamer. He didn’t throw a curveball until his 31st pitch, instead throwing more two-seamers. Brilliant outing. Passes Bob Gibson for most postseason wins (8) in St. Louis Cardinals history. www.graymatter123.blogspot.com

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