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Chris Carpenter's elbow injury not a problem, insist people leaking information about it

As of the Supreme Court's landmark "People v. Not Thinking About Pink Elephants" ruling, your elbow's only not a concern when the official website isn't running headlines like "Chris Carpenter's Elbow Not A Concern" ahead of Game 1 of the World Series. I don't think this kind of thing leaks just because somebody within the organization has decided it would be hilarious to make their own life more difficult, and the Cardinals probably are worried about Carpenter's elbow, seeing as it's got 254 innings on it this year. 

That said, this strikes me as different, at least, from the dead-armed Shaun Marcum situation, of which the Cardinals just finished taking considerable advantage. Two of Carpenter's last four outings are complete game shutouts, and three of his last eight; one of his poor postseason outings involved pitching on three days' rest, and the other gave us less to worry about than any of the other Cardinals starts from the NLCS. 

Marcum, meanwhile, ends the season having struggled in six of his last seven starts—the complicating factor being that he was excellent in August, so that that pulls back to seven of his last fourteen. When these things go, I guess, they go too quickly to allow for little things like hiding your own arbitrary endpoints.

Nevertheless, if—as Joe Strauss tweets—this was a serious concern starting after Game 3 and continuing as recently as the NLCS's would-be Game 7, and it's less of a concern now than it was then, I'm not ready to panic. Carpenter's stuff looked Carpenterian in Game 3, and thanks to that Game 7 not happening he'll be pitching with extra rest. 

If he's not ready to go, I can only hope that the Cardinals find some way to win a game in the postseason while relying heavily on an extremely quick hook and a rested bullpen. 

Star-divide

In any case, it would be only fitting if the Cardinals' ace failed to start Game 1—it's happened in each of their last three World Series appearances. In 2006 Carpenter and Suppan both were otherwise occupied, leaving Anthony Reyes to pitch the second-best game of his life—8 innings, two runs, four strikeouts; in 2004 Carpenter was injured and the rest of the staff was basically indistinguishable, leaving Woody Williams to get batted around Game 1 in Boston after Jeff Suppan outdueled Roger Clemens in Game 7. 

It went on before that, too—in Game 1 of 1987 22-year-old Joe Magrane got blown out of the Metrodome, leaving John Tudor to start the Game 3 opener. The last time a Cardinals ace started Game 1 of the World Series—that is, the last time the Cardinals won an NLCS in six games—was 1985, when Tudor shut down the Kansas City Royals in Games 1 and 4 before falling apart with everybody else in Game 7. 

Chris Carpenter is a great starter—better than Jaime Garcia, better than Kyle Lohse and Edwin Jackson—but baseball teams can win and lose the World Series with incredibly effective aces and intermittently effective rookie starters. If this team can avoid compounding disasters as brilliantly as it has so far, they'll be able to win with an effective Chris Carpenter or a—well, or a moderately effective Chris Carpenter. 

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As if Game 1 weren't going to be nerve-wracking enough...

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

...and then stays in to pitch a couple innings

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 18, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

And then Shelby Miller

puts up four perfect innings and hands the ball to Motte for the save.

"He's a one-tool player. And that tool is his mouth."
BCB post regarding Ryan Theriot

by fightin'_eyerash on Oct 18, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I remember right Bob Gibson had a shoulder injury that he never gotten taken care of

Last time he threw out the first pitch he could barely do it from in front of the mound.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was his elbow actually

From all those sliders thrown over 300 inning seasons.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was from him being old.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

I think he homered to left at Busch II in an old timer’s game when he was 56 years old or something.

Guy was an amazing athlete.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love that he went to Creighton on scholarship.

But not for baseball.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are people that are just good at everything.

Bob Gibson is one of those people.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Michael Jordan, however

is not.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you seen his BABIP?

Was it bad luck or should we look at his batted ball profile?

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the NBA cancels the season

we should sign Chris Paul, throw him in at AA and see how he does.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

If there's one guy in the NBA I'd like to see play baseball,

it would have to be LeBron James.

But I think he’d probably make far more money as a 6’8" WR in the NFL. Think Calvin Johnson but bigger AND faster.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

He would be impossible to defend on a football field.

You’d just send him down the sideline and throw it up to him, much like teams did with Randy Moss for years.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except taller, with a better vertical and more physical

There couldn’t be a single play when he was single covered.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

KInda contributes to my theory

that the modern basketball player is the best overall athlete in the world.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

The modern LeBron James is

Not sure about the rest of them. Just being really tall is a huge part of what makes a good basketball player, but just being tall has very little to do with almost any other sport other than being a jump-ball-catching receiver in FB.

I’d bet the NFL guys would do better in more track and field events for what it’s worth.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Goddamn british

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aussie Rules football

has to be one of the most brutal games in the world, and they run all over the place.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 18, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, Blue Monk - good to hear from you. rugby is . . .

. . . on in every pub in Thailand. You need to come this way to enjoy properly. ..

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Oct 19, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt it

but on the flip side, how many 5’8" cornerbacks could defend LeBron, much less tackle him. He’d be impossible to take down after he caught the ball over their head with one of those giant hands.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 18, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that LeBron has the fastest baseline-to-baseline time in the NBA

and covers that distance in an absurdly low number of steps.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way

Moss is one of the fastest receivers ever, LeBron is just insanely fast for being 6’8. There’s a difference.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Moss ran a 4.28 or something when he worked out for the Vikings in '97.

I would guess that LeBron would run sub 4.4 though if he trained for it.

He’s the fastest baseline to baseline player in the NBA.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's seriously a freak of nature.

Also would be fun to see him play end on FG blocks.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really doubt it. Calvin Johnson's body control and hands are extraordinary.

I suspect that Lebron would be a good WR if he put time into it, but I think there is absolutely no way that he’d walk onto an NFL field with a few weeks (or months) practice and be elite.

by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean,

like Antonio Gates was? 6 months of practice and he turned into an elite TE, which is a much harder position to play than WR.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, 1 example at a different position.

My bad.

Also, HARDER? No way. It’s a different position with different people attempting to cover you. It’s certainly not harder in the skill set we’re discussing.

by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

TE is a harder position to play than WR

because it involves more blocking. A TE also works the middle of the field more often, which is more difficult than running go routes down the sidelines or post patterns. It’s not that WRs don’t work the middle. They certainly do. It’s just less often than TEs.

I think that fourstick’s point was that Antonio Gates had very little football experience, was drafted by the Chargers, practiced for 6 months, and was an elite TE in the NFL, a position more difficult to play than WR. If Gates, a lesser athlete than LeBron, can do it, LeBron seems a fair bet to become elite as a WR.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

MARCUS POLLARD!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

JIMMY GRAHAM!

One NCAA season of football after playing basketball for Miami. Now an elite TE.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

More TE's!

Anyhoo, you all go ahead with your wild and crazy ideas. Bunch of wacko yahoos with no class. That’s what you are!

I’m off to the post-office and I might even pick some flowers on the way. GOOD DAY, SIRS.

by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

TONY GONZALEZ!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because most basketball players

converted to football have a 40 time too high to play WR. So they are converted to TE instead.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

For whatever reason

Power Forward to Tight End appears to be the easiest cross sports switches.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

JAMES JETT!

sprinter turned WR

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahmad Rashad

Same thing.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

have to be tons of those..

I’m more interested in basketball players (LeBron specifically) as WR.

by all4tookie on Oct 18, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a shame 6'5 Usain Bolt

Probably hadn’t seen American Football until he was like 20

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I would think that guy like that (or even a very skilled soccer player) would have a more difficult time making the transition though, simply because catching the ball with your hands is something that’s difficult to learn how to do if you’ve never done it.

From what I remember, guys like James Jett always had shitty hands and dropped a lot of passes.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gather all that, but the skill-set is different.

TE may well be a more difficult position (I don’t think it is, but that’s not really the point), but the things that make it so are not the skill-sets we’re discussing, so the Gates example doesn’t really illustrate anything for me. Bob Hayes might be a better example, but it was a different game back then.

Anyway, I think it’s clear that LeBron has the physical tools to be a frighteningly good WR, but I think it’s kind of goofy to assume he’d be dominating immediately.

(also, it’s worth noting that while Gates has become a good blocker, he was pretty bad his first couple of years).

by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he'd be immediately dominant

but I think he would be dominant in a short amount of time.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you could line him up at WR immediately

and just chuck it deep to him 6-8 times a game. Basically what the Packers do with Jordy Nelson.

Just the threat alone would change how the defense has to defend your offense, just like how someone like Moss or TO changes how you have to defend things.

I guess my point is that we’ve never seen an athlete as freakish as LeBron in terms of size, speed, and strength play the position. Moss is the closest example that we have, and he’s FOUR inches shorter.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not just one example, it's the one example of a guy who did it in a short amount of time

Marcus Pollard, Tony Gonzalez (although he played football in college), and Jimmy Graham are all good examples of basketball players becoming TE.

Why? Mostly because they were undersized power forwards who couldn’t play SF due to quickness and lack of shooting ability at the next level, but those guys are typically the perfect build for a TE.

And, yes, as bgh points out, the TE position is much more difficult to learn because you have to learn a larger passing route tree and also know motion and blocking assignments. Whereas a Randy Moss like receiver (which is how I envision LeBron) basically runs 4-5 routes and lines up as a split end on 85% of snaps. It’s really not a hard position to learn and if you’re a freak athlete and built like a truck, like LeBron, you could be extremely effective in a very short amount of time.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i could buy this...

we don’t see basketball players go become WR because you have to be fast and generally a freak athlete.. And if you possess these skills, you are going to be successful in the NBA, so why switch?

by all4tookie on Oct 18, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course:
And if you possess these skills, you are going to be successful in the NBA, so why switch?

But if there’s no NBA, why not give it a shot?

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

because the incidence

of career-ending injury is probably higher in the nfl than it is in the nba. that’s a total shot in the dark (and one based on a guess), but i think the reason more people don’t try is because football is perceived as more dangerous.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate you.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

lies

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're right.

i don’t hate you.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

/waves flag

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's his job.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

For sure

I’m sure the lack of guaranteed contracts has something to do with this as well.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

And are you saying that LeBron isn't

as skilled with body control and hands as Megatron? I’d have to disagree with that — if anything, he’s MORE skilled as he plays at his size on a smaller court where body control and hands are more important than they are on the gridiron.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

They are utterly different types of body control (and hands)

And if you’re saying that ANYONE has better football body control and hands than Calvin Johnson, I just don’t see how that’s anything but rather wild conjecture.

by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

they had some interesting graphics about him on MNF last week

gave him the same treatment as Justin Blackmon in this video. His vertical combined with standing reach was 12.5 ft…include his wingspan, etc and his “catchable zone” dwarfed Blackmon’s

by all4tookie on Oct 18, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

Do you think that Calvin Johnson could go drop 50 in an NBA game?

He’s a great athlete, but you’re basically doing LeBron and guys like Blake Griffin an incredible disservice by saying that a guy who basically runs, jumps, and catches a ball has better body control than those guys do.

I really don’t even know what “football body control” is. I imagine it’s a combination of footwork, upper body agility, and proprioception while airborne. Honestly, I’d be surprised if there’s a single player in the NFL who is better at those things than someone like LeBron, Kobe, Carmelo, or any great NBA player, for the reasons I listed a few posts up. They basically work on footwork, body control, and positioning far more than someone like Johnson would. The difference would be straight line speed, which Johnson probably has.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think hands is the much better argument from fink's camp

ability to catch 50 mph footballs or tracking a ball over your shoulder or making one-handed grabs is much different than catching a basketball. We have years of observations about the elite quality of Megatron’s hands in this sense – we don’t have anything of the sort for LeBron.

by all4tookie on Oct 18, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think if you have soft hands, that translates

Not to mention, it’s not like he’s NEVER played football before. He was a pretty good football player his first two years in high school before he stopped playing due to the threat of injury.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

true, but guys like braylon edwards have played their

whole lives and still suffer from the drops. I don’t know how we can say LeBron would have better hands than Edwards after only seeing him on the court.

Plus, it’s an easy case to make that LeBron was great in high school because it really was men amongst boys. He could drop 25% of his targets and still score 5x a game.

by all4tookie on Oct 18, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I absolutely do not think Calvin Johnson could drop even 20 in an NBA game.

and that’s sort of my point.
1. Freakish athleticism only gets you so far

2. While some of the skills are similar between the 2 sports, at the elite professional level, they are fine-tuned to such a degree (over thousands of hours of practice), that their similarities are dwarfed by the differences in precision and technique.

by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that you're

relating two different levels of skill here:

  • Being a successful basketball player requires a combination of athleticism, dexterity, and special skills that relate to only basketball (i.e. shooting) as well as the ability to play within the structure of an offense.
  • Being a successful WR requires little more than freak athletic ability and a cursory knowledge of a pro football offense.

If you’re a ridiculously good athlete, you have a much better shot at becoming an All-Pro WR than becoming and All-NBA basketball player, because the former doesn’t require a special set of skills that have to be honed over time.

The transition to baseball from other sports is similar.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I just disagree with this:
Being a successful WR requires little more than freak athletic ability and a cursory knowledge of a pro football offense.

That said, I’d be fascinated to see Bron-Bron give it a shot!

by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's fine

it’s a difference of opinion. I just know enough coaches at the D-1 level to know that they recruit athletes of this type specifically because they believe that they can turn them into excellent WR.

And LeBron is probably in the top 1% of the type of guys that they would look for in terms of athletic profile.

FWIW — I still think Calvin Johnson would be the better receiver overall. I just think LeBron would just completely change how you would have to defend an offense due to the threat he poses not only in the middle of the field, but especially at the goalline.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking more Blake Griffin.

Imagine the tight end that guy could be.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 18, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd single cover him all the time

Because what are two 6’2"/6’3" guys going to do that you can’t accomplish with one?

I mean, he’d be impossible to defend. Impossible.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even then, wouldn't you just throw it up 8 times a game?

He’s going to catch 4 and probably get PI another 2 times.

It’s like Billick used to say regarding Moss in 1998: We’re going to test the other defense deep at least 6-8 times a game, because Randy’s going to catch at least 2 and we’re going to get PI at least 2 other times.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

I’m just saying he would catch 6/8 with 2 PIs if you just single covered him playing off coverage. You’d have to jam him and hope you got a pass rush.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I don't know how you would defend him

I would guess a rolled safety over top and a very speedy linebacker or strong safety jamming him. I can’t think of a single corner in the league who could conceivably jam LeBron at the line of scrimmage.

It would be really fun to ask Rex Ryan or Bill Belichick this question and see what the answer would be.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much of this was due to him hitting a ton of ground balls though?

Clearly he had issues making contact — look at all the strikeouts. Do I think he might have made it had he continued to play baseball all through college? Possibly, but there have been other uber-talented athletes who’ve failed at that too.

Gibson could probably have played professional basketball had he wanted to pursue it, but baseball promised more money at the time with fewer hurdles to jump over, so that’s the way that he went. He’s stated this on different occasions over the years.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's probably easier to go from professional baseball to another sport

than it is to go from any other sport to professional baseball.

Hitting is really tough.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 18, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd probably pick golf really

The difference between being PGA quality and not PGA quality is almost nothing, and that Almost Nothing just can’t be made up if you haven’t played all. the. time. for the last 15 years of your life. Most everyone can physically hit the same shots, consistency (FJM ALERT!) is the problem.

A really good athlete can still be a bad hitter but do enough elsewhere to justify their existence on an MLB roster (Deion Sanders).

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deion wasn't ever really a bad hitter

Go look at his numbers: from ‘91-’97 he was a fairly productive centerfielder — probably league average at the plate if you’re adjusting for position. I think had he spent all his time playing baseball, he could have been very similar to Kenny Lofton, another two sport college athlete who picked baseball over basketball.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

I agree on golf. The difference from being a 10 handicap to being a scratch golfer is gigantic and the difference from being a scratch golfer to being a Tour player is an order of magnitude more difficult.

This is why I consider Tiger Woods to be the greatest athlete of the last 15 years, just due to his utter dominance of the the PGA Tour the likes of which we’ve never seen. Nobody has won that much over that period of time in the history of the sport. It just hasn’t been done.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god

here comes the x isn’t a “sport” or y isn’t an “athlete” argument. Bad VEB, bad! Get back on track.

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 18, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Track isn't a sport, dude.

I can run in straight lines pfffff.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I know

I’m just comparing the dominance of those activities with the peers on those sports.

You could make a case that Messi is the best athlete on the planet right now using this same logic — I don’t know of anyone on the pitch who is even comparable to him in terms of what he’s able to do and how he changes matches.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Phil Taylor is probably the best at what he does. I’d love to be a millionaire based off a bar game.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see that argument

However, are the prizes for dart throwing large enough at the median level that someone could make enough money to consider it a profession without considering careers in other sports?

That would be my argument to refute that.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly think you have to consider Bolt in this conversation as well

what he’s done in terms of smashing the WRs in the sprints by the magnitude he has, has literally never been done in any other sport to the best of my knowledge. He ran a time in the 100m I thought it’d take another half-century or so before anyone got close to…

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bolt has no practice catching

throwing or otherwise handling a ball in any sense. He’s also not trained in any sort of plyometric way to change directions or use his upper body strength. All he is trained to do is run in a straight line for a very short distance at a VERY high rate of speed.

I maintain my position that a basketbally player (and maybe a water polo player) are the most balanced, well rounded athletes out there.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 18, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rugby and soccer players

at least need to be in that conversation. Also, decathletes

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 18, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

gymnasts

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No idea. But it was A ball, so who really cares?

I just find it funny that people focus on his failure to make it as a baseball player while ignoring other players who were actually incredible two (or three) sport athletes like Deion Sanders (who probably could have stolen 600 bases had he played baseball full time), Brian Jordan (All Star OF, All Pro Safety), and Bo Jackson (who was also 0.03 of a second from making the ’84 Olympic team as a sprinter).

Not to mention guys like Antonio Gates, Frank Thomas, and Ricky Williams who were awesome one or two sport athletes in college and wound up playing different sports in the pros.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's because he was Michael F. Jordan

and he attempted a second sport as a 31 year old.

I always had a soft spot for Jackson, Sanders and Jordan because they played two sports.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Taking a 14 (I think) year layoff playing a sport and then not totally embarrasing yourself

at any professional level is pretty damn impressive.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

especially in baseball

which involves a very particular kind of hand-eye coordination, pitch recognition, and reflex, rather than just pure athleticism.

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by mattyp on Oct 18, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

one of my favorite baseball moments

in this game, the Secret Weapon struck out Deion Sanders…looking.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL199105080.shtml

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

broken leg, separated shoulder, dislocated elbow

who cares? BGDGAF.

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by cschepers on Oct 18, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

in someone's ribs! Thinking of pain, I had the coice of watching the Cards-Boohooers in Thai or Sutcliffe. Tough call since I don't understand either one!

Trying to keep dry in Bangkok is difficult enough without having to fight sickness and tears brought on by Sutcliff’es drivel.

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by akaitori on Oct 19, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go Jaime?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

man, i wish we had Waino right now

i wish the necessity for TJ surgery would have been recognized at the end of last season instead of blaming the problems on sleeping on the arm and having to wait till spring…
is it time for baseball yet…

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

he didn't need surgery this time last year

it didn’t completely tear until this spring.

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by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, damn it, they should've used the time machine to go forward

and find out if it was going to be a problem.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

or they could have had him do like Punto

just go in the cage and let it eat and see what happens.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

his whole arm would've flown off

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I could get behind this

prepare Carp for surgery

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by Dttl89 on Oct 18, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

I think we take out their appendixes

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that needs to be on the viva el bar menu

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

we already put that forth as a Cortisone Shot

along with the Soft Tossing Lefty.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there a fanpost on this stuff?

i had some other good ideas.
….

ecks on the beach. apple(sauce) martini.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

not yet

the old, old discussions are duly labeled though, so I think they’re relatively easy to call back up.

then again, I think the old, old discussions also determined that ClemsonGirl would make for terrible waitstaff, if memory serves.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the Soft Tossing Lefty some devilish concoction that gets you totally smashed without realizing it?

Kind of the Cardinals version of a really big Long Island Iced Tea?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a green'd comment

take bottle
pour out a shot
drink the bottle
drink the shot

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds about right.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great drink at a baseball theme bar. Ingredients?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Oct 19, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

if they'd let him have his last start, he probably would've

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 18, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

By what time must the rosters be announced?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Gah! The anticipation!

Please Sanchez!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It would be great if the bench were the same as the NLCS

and Sanchez replaced McClellan, wouldn’t it?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish.

But I’ll best we see Westie.

by Davis51 on Oct 18, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

all the hints are there

Westie replaced McClellan, Skiperdoodle replaces Chambers (most likely). There were even a couple of articles that questioned whether it might be better to start Westbrook instead of Jackson in the Ballpark.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think those would be bad decisions.

I suspect Westbrook would be used about as often as he and McClellan were used in the first two rounds which is to say hardly at all. Even if Sanchez is unable to throw on consecutive days, an inning from him in Game 2, Game 3, and Game 5 could be instrumental given TLR’s new bullpen management strategy.

As for Schumaker, he brings nothing to the table that isn’t already there with Punto and Theriot. There is no reason for him to be on the roster, especially given how many injuries he is currently dealing with. A healthy Chambers is a much more useful player, in my opinion, because of his speed and defense. Schumaker was slow and a bad defender before his injuries. I don’t want to find out what a lame Schumaker looks like running the bases and in the field.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i agree that's probably what moves will be made, but it doesn't make any sense.

all of our starters faltered in the LCS. jackson only pitched TWO innings. and yet, we never saw k-mac but for the first game when he was awful. if you’re not going to throw those types when you have 7 innings to cover, when are you? clearly we have enough bullpen pieces to avoid the need for terrible long relievers

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only person on the 40-man that I would sub into a game solely to steal a base is...

Tyler Greene. Commence kicking the horse skeleton, everyone. Or is it now a horse zombie?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

How silly of me.

There must be flesh and brain left to become a zombie, right?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

we might be overthinki–

braaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiinnnnnssss

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

completely agree with the sanchez part.

and brian stull on 101 was saying sanchez has been throwing back to back and is good to go FWIW.

by Wombat x on Oct 18, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I’d go with that whole idea to Kil all the Jews, or maybe that one about making black people slaves, or even the crusades….

Man, people can make some stupid decisions.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 18, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

surprise!politics

but seriously, he’s British. it would be funnier if you’d picked something like the Opium Wars.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand the argument for Westbrook over Jackson.

Westbrook is a groundball pitcher but he gives up a lot of homeruns.

Jackson has a much better FIP (3.55 to 4.25), better HR/FB (8.2% to 11.4%) and better HR/9 (.72 to .79).

There’s no good argument to start Westbrook over Jackson and, no, I don’t consider a good argument to be “But Jackson just gave up some home runs last game!”

by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 18, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't either

I’m just sayin’ I read that.

As I noted above, I don’t really think either choice (Skip over Chambers, Westbrook over KMac) is the proper choice to make, but that’s probably what is going to happen. Twere it me, I’d drop KMac and put Sanchez on there (health provided) and keep Chambers (we don’t really need three 2B do we?).

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since the team really has NO second basemen, the question begs logic. . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Oct 19, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Skip over Chambers seems fine.

He’s almost certainly a better hitter than Chambers, and I’m not really convinced we need a backup CF who hits from the left-hand side. Both Skip and Chambers will (presumably) merely be used for an occasional pinch-hit (or perhaps a defensive swap in the OF) so I’d just pick the best hitter.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 19, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

my thoughts exactly

Reading the PD’s pro-Westbrook piece I was all like yeah he gets a lot of grounders but when they ain’t grounders they’s often dingers.

Unless Duncan is certain he’s got Westbrook sufficiently pixie-dusted up I’d rather see Jackson.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 18, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean there is probably some point

Where an extreme ground ball disparity coinciding with an extreme home run hitting team can bridge a .5 – 1 run ERA projection gap. However, I doubt that is the case with Westbrook and Jackson.

Why would we care about HR/FB? Westbrook doesn’t give up a lot of homers because he gets so many groundballs, obviously. And HR/FB is mostly random variation.

Westbrook has a career .8 HR/9 compared to .99 for Jackson.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY YOU NO BASEBALL YET?

talk to me when you baseball

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions   5 recs

maybe if we all called the MLB offices and begged

they would make there be baseball today

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Carpenter's elbow is not an issue

because there is no one else. Carp has to pitch game one as long as a medical examiner has not declared him dead. The manager has no decision to make. Thus, saying there is no issue with Chris Carpenter’s elbow is quite different from saying Chris Carpenter has no soreness in his elbow (or that he is completely healthy).

I’d still like to see Lynn in the WS rotation. Without Carp, we are toast but even if the Cards win game 1 behind Carp who else in that rotation can win a game? Maybe Garcia in St. Louis. But we need one other solid start from somebody and that somebody is going to have to make that start in Texas. I don’t think it would be wise to count on Jackson or Lohse. Lynn is the next best option. Double down on the gamble by replacing Lynn in the bullpen with Eduardo Sanchez. Jackson (who is replaced by Lynn in the rotation) replaces McClellan in the bullpen.

by jjray on Oct 18, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Jackson is a better starter than Lynn, IMO.

Even granting the argument that Lynn has better starter stuff — which I don’t — when’s the last time Lynn pitched more than two innings at a stretch?

Well parsed on the Carp stuff, also.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

It seems to me that there is a big difference

between the report in the first paragraph of the article:

Cardinals right-hander Chris Carpenter, the club’s probable starter for Wednesday’s Game 1 of the World Series on FOX at 7:05 p.m. CT, has dealt with some soreness in his right elbow recently.

And the report later in the article of:

According to another club source, the discomfort was located in the area of Carpenter’s triceps muscle.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, he might just have a sore arm.

Seems like that would be par for the course for just about any starting pitcher this time of year though.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

No kidding

My non-medical-background prediction is “triceps tendonitis”. This is a non-story.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it was a sore muscle after the Game 3 start

and it is no longer sore, I agree with Mo that it is a non-issue. As you state, a pitcher having a sore muscle in his arm isn’t anything to get too worked up over.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm heartened by the fact that someone went on the record stating it is a triceps issue,

even if it was anonymous.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too, except that is where his chronic nerve problem is located, no?

It’s probably just related to inflammation. She reassuringly said to herself.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think this is someone in the organization "feeding the troll"

The troll, of course, being Joe Strauss.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

The article I linked to was on stlcardinals.com.

It seemed to me that this source provided the triceps information to rebut Strauss’s article in the P-D.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've come to acknowledge that Strauss mostly has valid information

and is just a complete ass about showing off his insider access and hating on people for enjoying the game of baseball in a different way than him. It would be nice if the information came from a nicer person, but I’ll take it for what it is.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

But I like the idea of them giving him information that he runs with only to discredit his information after it’s printed.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they publish the stories that appear in the print edition

only after that edition has gone to print, to make sure that they are the same. I don’t think Strauss has any control over it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

He could just tweet it.

When Bernie or Goold have news they don’t string it out all night. They just report it.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a good point.

But I wonder what the P-D’s policy is on that type of thing. I may be wrong but it seems that most of Goold’s tweets are of the gameday news variety that won’t appear in the printed paper.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, Strauss is quite the dick

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he tends to report things because he can,

but not always thinking about whether he should. And I think the thing that drives his decision making process is the giant ego that you allude to. “I am Joe Strauss, LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY!”. He’s not a terribly good writer, even for a glorified stringer, so he has to make his dollar based on scoops and incendiary journalism.

There are a lot of times where he has good information, reports it, and then speculates on the ramifications of the information instead of just reporting it. I don’t like this type of editorializing. This is why I refuse to read his articles at length.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you say that enough times

you might be able to convince yourself.

by jjray on Oct 18, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

do you mean triceptarops

hahahaha

gosh, all the possible triceratops/triceps jokes and no one has ever photoshopped a triceratops into a triceps before? ugh, some people.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell of a place to have an elbow. No wonder he is sore. . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Oct 19, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jackson scares the shit out of me every time he takes the ball.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

You never know which Jackson you’re getting until the second inning because first inning Jackson is almost always shaky. Then, he works so slowly that I go crazy.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I mean, I see the numbers, I know he’s got good stuff, I see the pitches moving, and yet he’s fuckin terrifying to watch.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't really scare me

as much as bore the shit out of me.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edwin is a flyball pitcher

with less velo than Lynn and without a curve. Everything Edwin throws is hard. I am very much uneasy about Edwin Jackson starting against that lineup in Texas. IMHO Lynn has a better chance of giving us a quality start than Jackson in that situation.

by jjray on Oct 18, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Groundballer vs. Flyballer is an interesting argument.

Lynn is an extreme groundball pitcher who would probably do better in the Ballpark at Arlington than Jackson if Lynn had been starting all season. That’s the problem with your proposal in my mind. Lynn hasn’t started since mid-summer. He also had a sixty-day layoff due to his oblique injury. An experiment in stretching him out is not something to do in what could be a pivotal game of the World Series.

Jackson has higher average FB velocity (94.7) than Lynn (93.4), though, and this is with the majority of Lynn’s fastballs being thrown in relief. There is no reason to expect Lynn to throw with a higher fastball velocity while starting than Jackson does.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

REIFER!!!!!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Reifer ever makes it to the big club

those jersey are going be flying off the shelves! BTW, I was very disappointed to hear he pronounces his name “rifer” with a hard “i”.

by jjray on Oct 18, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

German 101 (assuming his name is Germanic)

on ie and ei words, you pronounce the last letter in English. That is, Reifer = rifer, Riefer = reefer

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHOOOO MARIJUANA

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

MADNESS

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Reifer makes the Cardinals roster at some point.

I’m really, really looking forward to the VEB photoshopped Reefer Madness poster.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is German 102?

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 18, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

They use dative case.

Ha, I remembered something!

It’s been a loooong time since German for me.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

DATIVE!

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

this was nicely done.

and i do know a lot about dating…indirectly. it’s true.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, sorry,

we’re not playing jeopardy.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both you and pegasus fail to come up with a quick Jewish joke.

I can only assume that Fritz is out to lunch right now or he would have been on this.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 18, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am completely blanking.

We’re not… I mean you aren’t going…

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn it. Would have gone with Hasselhoff.

Already reached my Hitler joke quota for the day.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

nach ein mal bier, bitte. ..

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Oct 19, 2011 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't hide behind those caps, I see your eyes

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree it is a risky

move in that Lynn has only two MLB starts … but Cards have to gamble in my view because their rotation is just so thin without Wainwright (and Carp running on fumes). On should expect an Edwin Jackson start in Texas to resemble an Edwin Jackson start in Milwaukee. No a pretty sight. If Garcia wasn’t so awful on the road, I’d say throw Jackson in game 2 @ Busch and Garcia in Game 3 in Arlington. But you want to give the team the best chance to win the two homes games and Carp / Garcia are our best hope. Now we are down to trying to steal a game in Arlington. I’d gamble on Lynn. And I’d gamble even further by putting Sanchez on the WS roster.

by jjray on Oct 18, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand where you're coming from,

but I think it’s more likely that they throw Westbrook, team leader in GB rate at Texas, in an attempt to steal a game.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

An Edwin Jackson start in Milwaukee, eh?

On August 30, Edwin Jackson did the following in Milwaukee:

7 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K. 91 pitches. .331 WPA.

NOT A PRETTY SIGHT INDEED

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edwin's last start in Milwaukee

2.0 ip / 4 er / 2 so / 3 hrs
Ugly. Expect more of the same in Arlington if he goes there.

by jjray on Oct 18, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah hey, just look at the most recent data point!

IRREFUTABLE CONCLUSIONS ENSUE

Truly, we’ve advanced the science of baseball today.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who said anything about irrefutable? I sure didn't.

You cherry picked one data point. I did the same. Here is another one for you. August 3, 2011. Edwin Jackson start in Milwaukee. He gives three HRs to Casey McGehee. Here is Edwin’s line from that game: 7.0 ip / 14 hits / 10 runs / 8 ERs / 1 bb / 6 SOs / 4 hrs.

by jjray on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Expect more of the same"

is about as close as you can get to promising that he’ll get pounded.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it's not a promise

I am saying that I think the probabilities are in favor of Jackson getting hit hard and not making it past the 3rd inning.

by jjray on Oct 18, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I'm saying the

probabilities of Lance Lynn being better than that are miniscule. Go look at Lynn’s two major league starts. Jackson has more successful starts in Milwaukee than LYNN HAS MAJOR LEAGUE STARTS.

I can’t even believe we’re having this conversation really: Who in their right mind shelves their 2nd or 3rd best starter for a guy who’s coming off an injury and hasn’t started a game in three months?

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh... it's just... when you look at the data, you're wrong.

You’re saying that it’s more likely than not that Jackson doesn’t get out of the third. That is simply incorrect. You know how many times Jackson failed to go more than three this year?

It’s one. One time. It was Sunday night.

That is why people are arguing with you. You’re presenting one extreme case – Bad EJax – as the most likely case.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

That one Brewers game he had to tough it out because the bullpen was spent.

He probably would’ve been pulled early that game. Then he also wouldn’t have been raked over the coals by McGehee. So that performance should be taken with a measure of salt.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still can't stand watching him pitch.

It’s like watching cement set.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I'm having trouble not being snarky here.

Is there a chance Jackson blows up, yes. But you’re totally disregarding the significantly non-zero chance that he’s excellent.

All professional pitchers blow up sometimes, and all are excellent sometimes. Based on the total accumulated data, rather than cherry-picked individual games, the evidence says that Edwin Jackson is a pretty good starting pitcher. That is all.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to be that guy who quotes himself

but only because I started a comment that was essentially the same as this paragraphs from the pre-Game 2 of the NLCS main post.

There is no debating that these are but a small sample of Jackson as a pitcher; nonetheless, they offer a window into the potential outcomes on this day in October. With his worrisome peripherals Jackson could very well be slugged out of the game, the victim of a quick hook the manager did not afford him back on August 3. Then again, a smoke-and-mirrors performance in the Duncanian style a la August 30 is entirely possible as well. Most likely, however, seems to be the middle type of performance, one not unlike his Game 4 outing against the Phillies. Around six innings, about three runs allowed, and a chance for the Cards’ bats and bullpen to win the game.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could live with that.

He’s going to give up runs, just hope that it’s not too many.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

your best-case scenario is telling: smoke-and-mirrors.

Interesting description. I cannot believe the guy ever threw a no-hitter. I don’t want to discount it as luck, but when I watch him pitch, it’s baffling he was ever that good, even just for one game. He rarely has a dominating inning.

by mikey_mac on Oct 18, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It took him about 200 pitches to get that NH, iirc.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was more like 150ish

still though.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Arlington you can probably double the above numbers and cut the innings in half. . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Oct 19, 2011 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

Not to mention, Lynn has been an excellent 2 inning option in the bullpen for the latter half of the season when he was healthy. There’s no reason to believe the Jackson would be as good in that role as Lynn has been, and you’d be losing use of Lynn in multiple games by starting him in any of those games.

Lynn might be more valuable to our club as a 2 inning reliever who can throw in multiple games than as a starting pitcher who only throws in one game.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I gather this is kind of how the Rangers are using Ogando.....

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Fortunately for them, they have 4 other pitchers as good or better than him.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lynn has also thrown two deeply mediocre seasons in AAA in a row

whilst Jackson was putting up nearly 4 WAR in both years in MLB. Lynn’s also started precisely two games in the majors and hasn’t pitched in a starting role for about 3 months.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 19, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why swap a guy who's been a starter in the big leagues for 6 seasons and hasn't come out of the bullpen since 2005

with a guy who’s had all of 2 starts in the big leagues and has been great coming out of the bullpen?

Why do it? What is the rationale behind pulling a 4 WAR starter from your rotation in favor of a guy who’s had two starts his entire career?

Seriously, if Tony La Russa was playing this angle we’d all be calling him a fucking crazy lunatic. So what’s your excuse?

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness, some of us call Tony a fucking crazy lunatic no matter what.

It’s one of our endearing foibles.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 18, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

The OP has made this point in two different threads now.

I’d just like him to back up this opinion with some evidence of why I should expect Lance Lynn to be a better starting pitcher than Edwin Jackson, despite all the evidence to the contrary that this is actually true.

They both have similar stuff — Jackson throws harder, Lynn sinks the ball more. The only discernable reason why you would do this is so that you have a guy who gets more ground balls pitching at Arlington. Which is a fine opinion to have, it just doesn’t trump the other 37 reasons why you WOULDN’T do it. Some people just hate Edwin Jackson around here: They forget all his good starts and focus on his bad starts. Well, Carp doesn’t get a chance to throw his shutout in Game 5 of the NLDS unless Jackson pitches well in Game 4. So let’s remember that.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I'm with you. I was just being wry.

Much as I might wish he hadn’t cost us Colby, Jackson undeniably improved our starting rotation.* He’s probably the third best starter on our staff right now, 2nd if we’re on the road.

*Let’s please not get into a “there would/should/could have been other moves made” debate. Just accept that Carp-Garcia-Jackson-Lohse-Westy is better than Carp-Garcia-Lohse-Westy-McClellan. And that Colby wasn’t going to get the playing time under TLR to become what we all wanted him to be.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 18, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you're replacing a starter in this series

it should be Kyle Lohse, who’s yet to have a solid outing in the postseason. But I think upsetting the apple cart right now is going to do more harm than good.

I DO think that it might not be a bad idea to add Westbrook onto the roster if Sanchez simply isn’t available due to his arm problems. But I think either of those guys is better than McClellan at this point.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

is it crazy to think that Lohse might be due for at least a QS?

Lohse last pitched on the 14th, right? And he’s scheduled to start Game 3 in TX, on the 22nd. Let’s hope the extra rest does him some good.

It’ll be the biggest game in his career, by far.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I was hoping

for NLCS game 4. Maybe this time it work.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just want a QS, period.

mother of…!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

By that rationale

Our entire starting staff, including Jake Westbrook, should be due for a QS.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

a team "source" said that it was more of a triceps problem

then an actual elbow problem. This probably means that he stubbed his toe.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

RIP CHRIS CARPENTER

LONG LIVE ZOMBIE CHRIS CARPENTER

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

While watching Hannibal Lecter. . . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Oct 19, 2011 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

hypothetical

you have two choices:
1) Carp can pitch in the WS at full strength, but misses all of 2012
2) Carp can’t pitch but is healthy all of 2012.

I’d really have to think long and hard about that, I reckon.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

1, definitely

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

For my selfish reasons only, of course

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

1)

You never know the future: Always taken what you can now. Plus, how many chances do you get to win a World Series? The Cardinals have had the best player in baseball for 10 years and this is only their third WS appearance.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Oct 18, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

on those terms, (2)

Since the Devil could easily interpret (1) as “1 IP, 5 ER, collapses on mound with a triceratops”.

I insist on 2 CGSO wins, if I’m trading 2012. And make sure you clarify that he’ll be back (and well rested) in ’13.

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 18, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it's 2 CGSO wins, obviously you choose 1.

TBH, two guaranteed quality starts, I’d probably chose 1. With no guarantees other than health, I dunno. I think it’s really close. The dropoff from Carp to Lynn/Rzep/Miller/whatever next year is probably a good 3 wins. The dropoff from Carp to Lynn or Westy in the WS is maybe a drop of, what, 5% chance of winning? Certainly no more than 10%. It’s close IMO.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but the dropoff in world series odds for 2012 is less than that I'm sure

Which is why 1 would make sense. However, World Series odds probably shouldn’t be the only barometer.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you asked Carp, I bet he'd say 'gimme the fucking ball'.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

def 1

We made the WS w/o Waino — we could do it w/o Carp. I don’t see us having a chance w/o Carp pitching some innings in this WS, though.

by mikey_mac on Oct 18, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 easily

Maybe on a percentage basis it would make sense to burn Carp now, but next year is a long time to be without Carp.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually thought about posting this question earlier today.

Though I was going to phrase it as 2 CG SO in the series and nothing in 2012 or no series and healthy 2012.

Hive mind stuff.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 18, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

And honestly, even if an ME declared him dead.

He’d be good for a couple of innings.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

ZCDGAF

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

relevant

zombie walk

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah! Zombie Squad says they'll be on tv soonish.

Oct 25 as part of docu on zombie impact.
http://zombiehunters.org/

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll just stick this here
“Coming out of that start in Milwaukee, I had 200-something innings, 4,000 pitches or whatever. and it’s the middle of October,” Carpenter said. “Everybody has got soreness, and everybody has got aches. I got some treatment on my elbow. My elbow is fine.”

the reporters then burst into flames

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if reporters are ballsy or stupid.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's especially amusing to watch the naked fear in Tim Kurkjian's eyes.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't get me wrong, I'm a KurkFan

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kurk's one of the few that doesn't make me want to kick the cat.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

ABSOLUTE MUST-READ

Bojan Koprivica with a GREAT piece on catcher defense. Seriously groundbreaking stuff.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/another-one-bites-the-dust/

by all4tookie on Oct 18, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

Damn

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

holy moly!

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the link

that’s a superb article

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's sexy.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

mama molina is going to be proud and sad at the same time

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Literally*

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I think most Cards fans missed last Thursday,

but it was the new hair a couple weeks ago.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caught up on TV last night.

Thursday’s Parks & Rec was very funny.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

treat yo'self!

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 18, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

still mussy. but slightly less mussy than the first episode

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alex Avila everyone!

Few surprises here, but excellent work. Yadi is a good catcher, Jorge Posada is a crappy catcher.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeez.

You goddamned nerds need to get out onto the field and play the damn game. Hippies.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Correct

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

great article

I’ll read it again when i have more time.

also, in the following graph, you can see the knuckleball giving its finger to all catchers

by _pistol_ on Oct 18, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have more bad news

BBTN’s set up a coffee table around the outline of old Busch Stadium.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

salt in wound.....

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 18, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny

brewcrewball is suddenly blocked for me at work under the “Alcohol and Tobacco” category. Wasn’t that way a week ago …

by jeff_abs on Oct 18, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this trolling?

I hope not… I’m just a sucker for these kinds of games. Someone needed to complete the demolition of the Brewers…

by guayzimi on Oct 18, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait what, they might actually delay the Epstein deal to respect the World Series?

HOW SHOCKING.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on

Aren’t you expecting an announcement that the World Series is being delayed while the Red Sox finish their negotiations with the Cubs over Epstein and then make their decision on his replacement ?

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 18, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

second consecutive off day? here my top albums of 2011 with an only slightly meaningful order

youth lagoon – year of hibernation
the strokes – angles
kanye west/jay-z – watch the throne
real estate – days
radiohead – the king of limbs
the antlers – burst apart
bon iver – s/t
smith westerns – dye it blonde
okkervil river – i am very far
bobby – s/t
wu lyf – go tell fire to the mountain
girls – father, son, holy ghost
gang gang dance – eye contact
akron/family – s/t ii

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Am I misreading or is there no Tennis, Cults, Handsome Furs, or Stephen Malkmus on this list?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't like cults

never like pavement, so for that and other reasons, i’d be surprised if i’d like the malkmus. never heard of the others

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The new Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks is produced by Beck

and I think it’s excellent.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, The Jicks are awesome

Mirror Traffic was still pretty top notch.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really enjoyed that handsome furs album

good call

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry.

Apple sells it on iTunes with an alternate cover.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't get my copy of MBDTF

to change to the “not two people fucking on a couch” version and it annoys me.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

the one i have is

this (NSFW, i guess, if you work at a church or something)

i don’t like that one. i don’t know why particularly, as i have albums with real naked people on their covers that don’t bother me. this particular cover just annoys me and looks gross.

the one i want is this but itunes keeps reverting back to the other one for some reason.

is there a third one i don’t know about?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, weird

i guess there were several version of this album cover. i’ve only ever seen this one

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, the pixelly one?

yeah, i don’t think that’s a real album cover just a censored version that some publications used.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh well

usually i’d be really anal about that sort of thing, but it’s been long enough that i don’t care

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

give it a shot.

i’m not a big fan of metal, but i know we have some. and i’m curious, so i’ll probably at least check out anything you mention.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im going off memory and my iPod in front of me

Opeth – Heritage (very relaxed record, they moved from death metal into more of a King Crimson/early 70s style)
Anthrax – Worship Music
Arch Enemy – Khaos Legions
Chimaira – The Age of Hell
Crowbar – Sever The Wicked Hand
Dream Theater – Dramatic Turn of Events
Iced Earth – Dystopia
Machine Head – Unto The Locust
Mastodon – The Hunter
New megadeth next month. It would probably make the list as well.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

symphony X's Iconoclast

and Evergrey’s “glorious collision” were both really good. I haven’t heard enough albums this year to rank them on a list, though.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 18, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

(and that DT album was HORRIBLE).

Labrie has become a pathetic whiny emo shell of himself.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 18, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly I've heard 1 track off Symphony X new album and I liked it

They are on my list of bands that I’ve heard about for awhile just never got around to listening to but I plan to.

Not saying this is DT’s best but a lot of the songs have grown on me quite a bit. Glad there’s another metal guy on here!!!

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 6:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Animals As Leaders is the sickest heavy thing I heard all year

saw those guys live and it was actually better than the album. They played with a fucking kickass band called Intronaut (which is one of those band names that pisses me off that I didn’t think of it first) which I have to track down a CD by.

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by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

chitown at least

but worst case scenario, nobody likes your music. might as well post it

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

seems like a bit of a down year for music

I’ve heard a good number of these (though certainly not all), and while I generally liked most of them, nothing was particularly amazing.

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by mattyp on Oct 18, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

last year was incredible,

so it’s okay if this year doesn’t live up.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

also apparently there is a wilco album i need to listne to

i very well may have forgotten some stuff. i typed this last night while under the influence of drugs

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

and there you were going on about your precious innocence

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say that I'm surprised you included Angles on this list.

I think there are a handful of truly great songs on that album but the album as a whole (especially “Under The Cover Of Darkness”) has a mix-tape feel to it for me, likely due to the creative process behind it.

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by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it's definitely worthy of a top-15 mention

i don’t know if 2 is where i’d put it given more thought, but i liked it more the more that i listened to it

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd stick with the Eagles, Huey Lewis, Hootie & the Blowfish, Aerosmith.

Here is my World Series hit list for all the old timers:

The Turtles (Torties) – Happy Together
Aerosmith – Sweet Emotion
Bruce Springsteen – Glory Days
John Fogarty – Put me in Coach
Captain & Teneal – Muscrat Love (substitute Squirrel for Muscrat)
Bon Jovi – Livin on a Prayer
Aerosmith – Dream On
George Strait – All My Ex’s live in Texas
Huey Lewis & the News – Workin for a Livin
Big & Rich – Save a Horse, Rise a Cowboy (substitute Ranger)

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by Gibby45 on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Ride

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by Gibby45 on Oct 18, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is there no Journey on this list?

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by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call, add:

Journey – Don’t Stop Believin’

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by Gibby45 on Oct 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

last week i sang put me in coach at the karaoke bar.

it was awesome

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You make me love you

I’ll bet it was awesome.

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by Gibby45 on Oct 18, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gibby45 is one of the more creepy people on this blog

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice try

But, you can’t take my attention off of IHB. Besides, a little creepiness is good for the soul.

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by Gibby45 on Oct 18, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

The name of the song is called “put me in coach” (as you acknowledge). It’s name actually is “Centerfield”. (c.f. Dodgson, 1871)

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by alberich on Oct 18, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of those would be on my list too... here's a few others I like....

Sorry, this list got long really fast… I don’t know what happened….

Top 5
Pearl and the Beard – Killing the Darlings (by far my favorite of 2011)
Washed Out – Within and Without (2nd fav)
Das Racist – Relax (Top 5)
Tune-Yards – Who Kill (top 5)
Beirut – The Rip Tide (top 5)

Others – in no specific order

St. Vincent – Strange Mercy
Yuck – Yuck
The Horrors – Skying
Holy Ghost – Holy Ghots
Wye Oak – Civilian
Tapes and Tapes – Outside
Alexander – Alexander
Active Child – You Are All I See
Grouplove – Grouplove
Megafaun – Megafaun
SuperHeavy – Super Heavy (only because I like the song Mahiya so much)
Neon Indian – Era Extrana
Yacht – Shangri-La
Givers – In Light
Dom – Family of Love (technically an EP)
Elbow – Build a Rocket Boys
Mates of State – Palomino
Eisley – The Valley
Friendly Fires – Pala
David Bazan – Strange Negotiations
City and Colour – Little Hell
Lovett – Highway Collection
Voxhaul Broadcast – Timing is Everything
Yelle – Safari Disco Club
Destroyer – Kaputt
Toro y Moi – underneath the Pine
Royal Bangs – Flux Outside
Empress Hotel – Empress Hotel
Devotchka – 100 Lovers
Memory Tapes – Player Piano
Dawes – Nothing is Wrong

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by pattimagee on Oct 18, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would add Mirror Traffic

And I thought Kurt Vile’s album was pretty good.

The Throne, really?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess there is just something about really shitty rapping over repetive beats

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

lullacopters

people have different taste. just because an album does not conform to your idea of what you like does not make it shit.

i quite liked it. others did too. you did not. all these things are okay.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Relax, we can argue taste

It doesn’t actually mean it’s a personal attack in any way.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didn't take it that way.

sorry if it sounded like i did.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I enjoy such an eclectic mix that I literally wouldn't know where to start.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaa ESPN graphic of Theriot vs. Furcal

ahh, I needed a laugh.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

cardinals.com

Is having some issues. Tickets say available but then nothing happens.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 18, 2011 12:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i hate football.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

let's analyze handshakes

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never understood the allure

of watching skinny Europeans in boxer shorts kick a black and white ball around for an hour either.

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 18, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for being a pedant, haha.

i actually really like that kind of football. american football is very boring to me, which strikes people as funny since the two sports i love watching (“soccer” and baseball) are often regarded as dull.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, AMERICAN football...

you mean an hour of committee meetings broken up by running a few feet every few minutes?

Baseball is the only real sport. All the rest are games.

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take ping-pong.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

or, as the Chinese say.....

ping pong.

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by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

funny

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Balls of Fury

surprisingly good flick.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to have to watch that one day.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm actually a big handegg fan myself but

St Louis is bigger baseball and hockey so your likely on par with many VEBers

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 18, 2011 9:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

haha...

we’re in the world series and all VEB can talk about is football and mizzou moving to the SEC. good stuff.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

oh and music.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you should read that post

about catcher defense on passed balls. it was really interesting.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i will when i have time.

so friday.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know who really sucks?

Sporting Kansas City and the Whig Party. That’s who.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

Don't you mean the Zombie Whig Party?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whigs....just wannabe Federalists.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOO WHIGS!

they’re currently part of our government. True story. Assholes.

/politics.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they look stunning.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

They look out of place on you humans.

at least in my doggy opinion.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was an American Whig party, too

but they went under during the runup to the civil war. So now they’re a joke about anachronistic nonsense here.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Oct 18, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

some of our first presidents were whigs.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lincoln started out a Whig I believe

The Republican party began largely with Whig party cast-offs.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa bro

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

baseball

baseball
baseball?
baseball

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

top selling albums of 2011

1. adele—“21”
2. lada gaga—“born this way”
3. mumford & sons—“sigh no more”
4. jason aldean—“my kinda party”
5. bruno mars—“doo wops & hooligans”
6. justin bieber—“never say never: the remixes”
7. chris brown—“F.A.M.E.”
8. various artists—“now 37”
9. nicki minaj—“pink friday”
10. katy perry—“teenage dream”
8.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I really like Adele

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have no shame in saying that i do too.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would there be shame?

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know.

just in case there was. i was being proactive for a change.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone pick up the Civil Wars ?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

'I've got this friend' is awesome.

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by pattimagee on Oct 18, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So.

The Cardinals are Awesome.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 18, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

so are you!

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are too!

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 18, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah baby

you should tell those people upthread that think the cardinals are destined to lose in 3

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh hell

i don’t think the cards have a hope in the universe of beating the Rangers.

But who gives a fuck? We beat the bastard-brewers!

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 18, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh come on man

you’re killing me

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also didn't think we would win the other series

so i’m not gonna switch up my thinking just yet, it seems to be working.

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NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 18, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I though I was the only one.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

thought

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait really?

elaborate

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not based on anything factual

its just that the Rangers seem really, really good.

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NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 18, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh ok

well so do the cardinals

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOO

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 18, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-URNS

woo-urns?

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 18, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

2004 (I acknowledge it happened), 2006, and 2011

in the World Series. Only a very, very few teams can boast of success like that in the past decade. Red Sox, Yankees, that’s about it.

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 18, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you saying that Pujols signed for $300MM with an LA team

will undermine his prior statements about wanting to play for a competing team with a shot at the World Series?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think he's gonna leave

but i also think that’s because we’re going to pay him too much money

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have been a very fulfilled fan base

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are nowadays.

Growing up in the late 80’s through the 90’s?! Ugh. That was a very dark time.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 18, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not have Carp...

pitch in games 3 and 7 to give the elbow some time? He can only start two games anyway, right?

by guayzimi on Oct 18, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

There might not be a Game 7

unless Carp pitches twice before then.

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 18, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Oct 18, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't understand this ticketing thing.

they are available, yet when you go to buy even just one ticket, it says tickets aren’t available in the quantity you selected. that makes no sense.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

According to the team, they're sold out.

They should probably just not have the option to buy online at all anymore, but I’m sure they don’t mind the page views.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sucks.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

well yeah. i already have game 6 tickets.

i was holding out hope that i could buy game 7 from the box office instead of stub hub.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't say that i blame you.

game 7 is absurdly expensive on stubhub.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

what games do you have?

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 & 7.

The 7 are Champions Club. Damn you “best available.”

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

through the box office for both?

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Si.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

do subjunctive better.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

no.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

okay.

you always say this. what did he do wrong?

are you supposed to say “i wish there were”?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

easy, Hitler.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

no.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

so if I was to acquiesce to your little campaign, you still won't listen to us?

ok.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish you could search multiple types.

Best available in infield box and bleachers, for example.

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by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish it just gave a range of prices

I don’t want SRO and I can’t afford green seats in pairs. So give me something in the middle.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i doubt you’ll be able to sell those for enough of a profit to buy cheaper tickets that would make it worth it (since the cheaper tickets will have to be scalped/third party).

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm aware of what I'm doing.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

that was an indirect question.

how you plan on going about your plan.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if I don't get double what I paid, I'm keeping the seats.

If I sell and can’t get anything online, I’ll probably try to scalp outside the stadium once the game starts. If no luck, go down to the oyster bar and hang out until they open the gates.

Of course, the likelihood of any of this happening is nil, so whatevs.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't even check because stubhub is broken

i noticed that games 1 and 2 prices went down. but game 7 is just going to go up, especially if i wait until the day of game 6

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i say there's an 80% chance game 7 isn't played.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even so, that's not going to affect ticket prices.

Everybody gets their money back — even on StubHub — if the game isn’t played.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

no i know.

i was just giving analysis.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Number of tickets are going down on stubhub for game one also

I’m pretty sure even if all the tickets sell no one will be buying my absurdly priced tickets.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you can make it tomorrow, i'll give you two tickets at face value

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by d-dee on Oct 18, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

i wish. but thanks

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB: no price gouging

what a community, huh

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by mattyp on Oct 18, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

454.50 for a pair

upper deck infield 449 row 4
i can’t believe i am sitting on $1000 worth of tickets because i thought having friends was a good idea.. aaaargh

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by d-dee on Oct 18, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope, i had 4 extra, cause they asked me to get some for them

i have one for me
(sigh)

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by d-dee on Oct 18, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOH

What jerks!

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, those people suck really, really bad

Is it bad that I’m only 26 and already entering my grumpy, get-off-my-lawn, “back in my day” stage? How the hell do those people not at least offer to pay for the tickets and be responsible for re-selling them? They asked for them, it should be their problem.

People today, I tell ya.

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by mattyp on Oct 18, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh wow.

game 7?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 18, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, game 7 wouldn't be a problem

tickets are for tomorrow, they called off late tonight
i’m beyond pissed

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by d-dee on Oct 18, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

What assholes!

The gf and I would swoop in to save the day but we already paid an arm and a leg for tickets. I hope you can sell them

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love too

Both I just paid to replace an axle on my car. :-(

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 19, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

this...

I had the same issue and called the ticket office. Basically told me they were sold out and that the returns that are occasionally posted online are literally lots of 1 or 2 tickets, so your chances are about nil.

by all4tookie on Oct 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

They told me it would be my lucky day if I got one.

I got 2 in 2 separate transactions for game 7. Same section, seats directly in front of each other. I should go buy a lotto ticket.

That was 3 hours ago though, now volumes are so high it can’t even process requests.

by redbirds34 on Oct 18, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

damnit! i'm never lucky

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

ask Siri sports questions, incl. WS

link

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

she actually answers none of them.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

from 'face
World Series umpires announced: Jerry Layne (Crew chief), Gary Cederstrom, Ted Barrett, Greg Gibson, Ron Kulpa, Alfonso Marquez.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Phew.

Dodged a bullet there.

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

wanted bob davidson.

oh well.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

AHAHAHAHA Passan breaking open what we all knew about Jason Motte

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING

that’s right, world. pushing 100 mph and he cannot see it.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

no glasses. no contacts. no nothing.

JUST GLOVE.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need to take out a large ad in Dallas newspapers

to let all Rangers players know this. You know, for their own safety.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

we need Big Smiley Motte for that picture.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm squinting because I can't see you!

You’re lucky my eyes are even open.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Nah

We’re gonna use the S-T. Rates are cheaper.

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by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

How does a dude like that not go get LASIK

Seeing things is really cool.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

why fuck with a formula that works, I guess....

as he gets older and his eyesight gets worse, does he get better?

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by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bull Durham remake
Crash: Hit the bull.
Motte: What bull?
Crash: Perfect.

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by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

without compare. My compliments, sir. ..

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by akaitori on Oct 19, 2011 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Holliday
I’m glad he’s on my team. I’m not sure I want to go up there against a guy who can’t see when he’s throwing a ball 100 mph.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

So he's channeling Sutter and Gibson?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I don't know what my vision is, but I can promise I'm not Ted Williams."

Motte is the greatest thing ever.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 18, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh,I thought he wore contacts

I wonder how he plays defense? That must be really scary if you see a line drive headed right towards your face just a second too late

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

all he sees is the white moving fast thing yay

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

how long is the metro ride from the airport to busch stadium?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe about 30 minutes.

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by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm.

i guess that’s better than staying at the hilton down town for $400/night (!)

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

I’m staying at the Ballpark Hilton for $185ish…

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by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

what nights?

i just checked for 26-27 and it was $429/night

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game 1

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. much more for games 6 and 7

the westin and the other hilton are sold out actually

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like the Westin.

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by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i could stay at the drury inn by union station

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two blocks from the Drury is a bar called Maggie O'Briens

and it usually runs a shuttle to the stadium.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 18, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh cool.

thanks

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

are there two drury's? it looks like there is one on 20th street and one on market street

which one do i want?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The one I was thinking of is Drury Inn Union Station 201 South 20th Street St. Louis, MO 63103. That is right by Maggie’s.

There’s another one that’s north of the stadium, iirc: Drury Inn & Suites Convention Center
711 North Broadway
St. Louis, MO 63102

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by azruavatar on Oct 18, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Near the arch too.

2 South 4th Street
St. Louis, MO 63102

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by azruavatar on Oct 18, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both of the latter two are within walking distance of the stadium.

But I don’t know much about how nice they are since I’ve never stayed in an StL hotel.

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by azruavatar on Oct 18, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for your help azru

i ended up getting a room a the drury inn on 20th street. it got great reviews on trip advisor. the website said sold out, but i just called anyway. they only had 4 rooms available. the rates were only $20/night more than holiday inn at the airport, and they have free happy hour!

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

free happy hour is the most underrated hotel amenity.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

the other thing that is awesome is now i don't have to leave for the game at freaking 430. i can have happy hour in my hotel and stuff until like 530, then head over.

unless i want to catch BP, i suppose.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

where did you get seats?

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

261

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

man oh man am i jealous.

and man oh man did you pay.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

are those good seats?

honestly, upper deck infield seats were the same price. it was a matter of sitting behind home plate but up high or sitting closer but to the side

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like that area.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

the cardinals always run specials in the area.

so i usually end up sitting there a lot.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i got them for $100 cheaper each than the cheapest tix are currently in that section

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

IHB

just to ease any remaining anxiety, I’ve never had a bad stay in a Drury. The only complaint I’ve ever had is that the breakfast sometimes gets a bit busy if too many people hit it at the same time. I’ve never stayed at the one on 20th, but I can’t imagine it being anything but good.

(Happy hour is neat too, but I usually don’t get to take full advantage ’cause it starts about the time I leave for the game.)

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

excellent. thanks again everyone for your input!

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

good to know, thanks

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've also stayed at that one.

It was pretty nice. Of course, that was a few years back.

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by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a restaurant at that Drury

called Lombardo’s that is fantastic. You should stay there (and get the toasted ravioli at Lombardo’s)

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by mattyp on Oct 18, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool, thanks for the tips. i should probably go read azru's stl guide

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh snap

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

no no no

i didn’t mean it like that. i meant i should probably read it to find additional awesome tips like the one from mattyp

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I CAN'T WAIT FOR GAME 6

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

veb meet up? i

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure my boyfriend would love it

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be down if other people are

My gf has said she’d like to meet some of VEB

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 18, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me?!

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a bad experience at Lombardo's once

The food WAS very good, but I got it 35 minutes after everyone else. They just completely forgot me, and then were pretty rude when I questioned them about it… acted like I had just showed up and not placed an order at all. I haven’t been back since.

Was good food though.

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by Vindicator9000 on Oct 18, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stayed there a couple times.

Nice location. There is a trolly that runs from Union to the park and vice versa. Not sure if it is still running this time of year – maybe a local could answer that one.

The Hyatt Regency at the Arch was also pretty sweet, and handy. Price was similar to the Drury at Union Station last time I was there. Enjoy the trip and the game!

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by Gibby45 on Oct 18, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks. the hyatt was my first choice, but sold out :(

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could stay at Gibby's place

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wait no they're in Michigan

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

But still

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHEW

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

so is the marriot at union station

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

sold out

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are two of them.

does the hilton charge per room or per night?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

half an hour.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

32 minutes.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

a 5:07 train arrives at Stadium Station at 5:39

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

so i guess that's not too bad.

i was hoping it was quicker. i think i would rather stay a little closer to the stadium, but somewhere right by the metro

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

ATTN all out-of-towners coming in

when you LEAVE Busch Stadium, make sure the train you’re getting on is going to Lambert and not Shrewsbury (unless you’re coming from the south). otherwise you will be stuck at Forest Park station in the middle of the night with little to no chance of squeezing back into the correct line.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goold comin' at us with the historicalnessity

Cards Trios

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Great article

This line:

Bob Gibson*, P
(1964, ’67, ’68): 9 games, 9 starts, 7-2, 1.89 ERA, 0.89 WHIP

just… no words, really.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Really good?"

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

needs to have an additional stat

“batters killed with sheer force of steely gaze”

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's downright

Verlander-esque.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

81 IP, 8 CG

Yeah, not 9 CG, 8.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

So get this

I had a minor procedure done today on my catching hand. I ask the surgeon if there is something wrong with my hand which is peeling off in certain places, fearing that it could be some sort of liver disease. He said that it could either be an allergy or a reaction to stress. This is the easiest semester I’ve had so far and I do not have a job. The only thing that stresses me out is that my favorite baseball team is in the WS. So, in essence folks, the Cardinals are killing me.

2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
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by Paulspike on Oct 18, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

This angers me a little...

Listening to sportscenter right before they go back from commercial and heard there’s some health council/board that is saying they don’t want either team to use tobacco products in dugout or on camera. Going to players union. I’ve never wanted to smoke or chew. This to me seems ridiculous to me IMO.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 1:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Everybody has to pay for everyone else's medical problems...

so some of the more dangerous products should probably just be banned. Or we need a law prohibiting medical treatment of oral cancer.

by guayzimi on Oct 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a bunch of gum chewers on the Cards, so doubt it's an issue

this is a think of the children thing. there’s nothing stopping them going down the tunnel, other than FESPN following them down the tunnel.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are definitely still dippers.

Theriot and Furcal off the top of my head. Unless they’re carrying that tape measure gum in those pockets.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's what I figured

hahaa, I had a vision of this rule applied to Ibañez

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lohse, too.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

give em some loose leaf mint tea to suck on

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm missing.

I need some tea on this grey autumn day.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

you dying of plague yet

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Earl Grey, perhaps?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The health boards from Arlington and St. Louis

as well as four U.S. senators sent letters to the MLBPA asking that tobacco products be banned for the World Series. It is part of a larger push, according to this article:

With baseball’s current collective bargaining agreement expiring in December, the senators, some government officials and public health groups like the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids want the players to agree to a tobacco ban in the next contract.

I don’t understand anger about this. It involves the MLBPA, health boards, and four senators. If the MLBPA chooses to enter into a tobacco ban by contract, that is their right in this country. I guess I don’t really care if they do or don’t.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think there's any harm in this either....

But I would say that these type of “agreements” tend to create hardliners with the community of players who use. For instance, how many teenagers would go use tobacco just to spite the MLB when they find out their favorite players are using it and don’t want it banned from the game? Probably as many as use it because their favorite players use it now, only they might not know it because the player hasn’t been outed in public for his personal habits.

I think that there’s been a significant drop in the amount of tobacco use among players just in the last 15 years and these type of steps weren’t needed to come this far. I think people like Brett Butler were instrumental in spreading information about the health issues related to chewing tobacco.

Players should be free to make their own decisions about their personal health, they should be forced to be role models for others simply because of their profession.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

First no guns in the clubhouse, and now this.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MY BELOVED GAME?

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear that saltpeter can give quite a kick.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, there's now guns allowed in the clubhouse?!

Well, fuck!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 18, 2011 9:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

...please don't post the picture of Franky and Albert with the guns

‘cause it’s really too large.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It bothers me bc everybody in the dugout is focused on the game

If you are paying attention to the game I don’t see any body in their right mind to think “I want to take a dip, oh man I need to run into the tunnel to take this”. I wonder if they will have a dugout monitor to regulate this. I understand the purpose behind it and its for a good reason. Is it more important to do this for WS than LCS or LDS? Or regular season?

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

How many kids start chewing because Raul Ibanez chews?

How many kids start chewing because their mom or dad chews and they have easy access to the product and can try it pretty much any time they want?

Any guess as to which one is higher? Because I’m sure it’s the latter.

In this instance, the players are the victims of being public figures who engage in a practice that is unhealthy. So, the question is, why aren’t health boards and senators protesting TV shows like “Man v. Food” which demonstrate piss poor eating habits. Considering that obesity and heart disease cause nearly 40% of the chronic illness in this country, I’d say this type of programming is far more harmful.

Both ideas are idiotic and a waste of time. If the intend was to educate people and let them make their own choices, I would feel differently. But that’s not the intent here — the intent is to essentially ban adults from engaging in a behavior because they might encourage kids to do it.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love it.

Basically in so many words what I was trying to say only you did it a lot better.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 18, 2011 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

he is a wordy bastard.

not saying that you’re wrong for being that way, fourstick. Just saying that you are a wordy bastard. How many keyboards do wear out in a year?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just finally wore out my old IBM Model M keyboard last year

That thing lasted 15 years. New Logitech Wave keyboard is nice, but it’s just not a replacement for the Model M that I had. I tried a UniWave one, but it seems like they’ve cheapened the key springs or something — it just doesn’t have the springback that the old one did.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love clicky keyboards

silent ones freak me out.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watching you with an iPad would be hilarious then.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bluetooth Keyboards

work really well for the iPad. My wife has the apple one and loves using it with the iPad.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that I'll probably ever have one

but what’s the battery life one of those keyboards?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It lasts quite a long time

40-50 hours of continuous use. Also depends on the keyboard and what battery it uses. My wife’s uses a Li-On rechargable battery. Others use AA’s and I’d guess they don’t last as long.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, it is.

it’s not quite youtube worthy, but oh man. freaking. out.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Model M is the best one I've ever had

I scour eBay looking for the specific model that i had — thing is, it’s really popular, and therefore hard to find and expensive on the used market.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've got an old HP keyboard.

It’s probably a good 10-12 yr. I’ve tried to get used to a couple of laptops and just can’t ever get the hang of them.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll use a laptop keyboard when it's convenient.

But I much prefer a standalone one.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

How interesting! Baseball Tonight only has memories from Rangers players!

i guess they’re the only team playing.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Remember, it's already over.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

tim mckernan's twitter....

just, wow.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Enjoy your venereal disease, dude.

Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Oct 18, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So, assuming those girls have fathers who are in their lives

(which is a big assumption), what is the chance that at least one of their dad’s co-workers listen to or follow McKernan? And how do you bring this up to one of their dad’s if he is not already aware?

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

@tmckernan @ashlately what is going on my dad has already called me twice

http://twitter.com/#!/k8gross/status/126277986474397696

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is why i don't have kids.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

she (thankfully) called it off after balking at the videotaping demand.

so now timmeh is actively recruiting someone else.

this is why i want males.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, I'm a pretty terrible human being

but that guy makes me look like Gandhi.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's also (sadly) a lot richer than you are.

i wonder what his parents think.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

nor would i.

okay, maybe for a year. put some money away.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

sports talk radio announcers are rich?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

How?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

High demand for their services

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

I mean, I wouldn’t think that being a talk radio host in St. Louis would be that big of a deal.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i want daughters.

but dealing with people like that would make me sick.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

...
this is why i want males.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I am currently very glad I have one of those

and maybe two.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yah, strikes me as backwards.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

this is why all girls should be taught MMA, so they can just rip the nuts off guys like that.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't even know what the guy said.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

or perhaps

raise sons who aren’t howard stern wannabes.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that's the other half of my plan

my children will be allowed to listen to back episodes of the jack benny program and then maybe NPR when they turn 18.

by DanUpBaby on Oct 18, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

you could just cheat

and consult momup

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Krav Maga: 101 ways to hit a guy in the nuts

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's not all of it, obviously.

besides the fact they’d be the most spoiled daughters of all time, boys are just easier to deal with. though considering most of my friends now are girls, maybe i’m destined to have like four daughters.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

one step at a time, pal.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

getting married to a 24 year old at the age of 28.

i have my life planned out.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's stupid

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

why?

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was, more or less.

this whole “getting a job” a job thing isn’t, um, as automatic as i would have liked.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, seriously, planning your life out is actually stupid

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to mention impossible

It is good to have goals, but to think that you have a plan for the age you and your wife to be that you haven’t even met yet will get married? Dumb.

I assumed he was joking too, BTW.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've 'joked' about it several times on here then

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL BEATLES

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he says as he puffs on his pipe and adjusts his monocle

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Had to get rid of the gold plated one...

Sterling silver.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't let him fool you folks

that’s platinum

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

completely OT,

but my wedding ring is palladium. I’d never really seen it before. It’s a white metal, and not as heavy on the fingers as gold. I really like it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

when you point it at things, does it do stuff

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know but there's been this creepy creature following me around

ever since the wedding.

(This is not a wife joke!)

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

does it crawl around and keep muttering guttural noises

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

most of the ring companies

changed from gold to palladium for class rings many years ago. Gold rings got to be waaaay too expensive.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got Lustrium®

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

palladium is ridiculously awesome.

and really, really rare. all the palladium ever mined, ever, would fit in a 25 cubic foot room. it also powers catalytic convertors. it’s awesome. that’s what i want my wedding ring to be made out of too.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure most cat converters are platinum actually

and also (to ArkansasTravs above) I’m pretty sure Palladium is more expensive than gold.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 19, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ring was slightly cheaper than white gold, iirc.

Like I said, I chose it because it was nice and light. I’ve never worn jewelry, and I didn’t want something heavy.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 19, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

hm.

i was under the impression most cat convertors used palladium. either way, both would work fine- platinum just gives you some more reactions that you don’t necessarily need.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, it's mined in MT.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 19, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i am getting married at 23 and will have my first kid at 28. i have my life planned out, too.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna go into investment banking, work really hard until I'm 35

Then travel the world and marry a Spanish local!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was when I was like 15 though

I’m pretty much living my adjusted-life plan

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I pretty much did this actually

Except I got married at 24.

Also, my twelve year old self just called, wanting to make sure that I am indeed a successful late night talk show host. What do I tell the poor kid?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it's on the way

But I will be 27 when he’s born.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats!

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I’m thinking that if I can teach him to pitch and bat ambidextrously, he has a real shot at being a bat boy if I can get it good with management somehow.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh that was my impression of 21 year-old IHB

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a good impression

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh. i'm sure she was a blast to be around.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

indirect snipe!

they’re fun for other 21 year olds to be around.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 18, 2011 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why?
boys are just easier to deal with.

by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe i'll step back and let you tell me what you think first.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, my kid is 27 months old, so I'm hardly a font of experience,

but as far as I can tell from talking to people, teaching HS, and thinking about things, being a parent is really difficult, but dealing with cultural gender baggage barely enters into it.

I suspect that it’s possible for some individuals to have a far more difficult time with a child of a particular sex, but that’s more about their own individual baggage than anything innately more difficult about it.

Also, a child’s individual quirks and the universal issues of growing up both seem to far outweigh anything that’s specific to being male or female.

by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

/parentoftwoboys.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was more or less playing off the "16 year old girl" stereotype.

but i’ll take your word with more weight.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I've gleaned through inheriting two teenage boys,

Girls have to deal with a lot more crap at that age. Very clicky, having the right jeans, and teenage girls are just down right mean to each other. I’m obviously speaking in generalizations, but from the goings on of the rest of the family, it seems my wife says at least once a week that she’s glad she had boys.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

spelling

don’t hit me, I just couldn’t figure it out for a while

clique-y

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's really annoying.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, I thought it was that they communicated

in one of those languages where tongue-clicking is a consonant.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

These are two equally-matched groups

I think this thing is gonna come down to match-ups and whoever gets a good streak going and is easier to raise on a given day.

My verdict: Rangers in 6.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rangers in 3

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because he's never been a problem to his parents.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

stabbed.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like how you don't circumvent it at all.

just go right to the point.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah.

sigh

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's really not his fault for giving the audience what they want.

No different than Limbaugh. If enough people want to buy something, somone’s going to step up and sell it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe not his fault wasn't the right term.

Just pointing out, that if it wasn’t him, it’d be someone else.

Hate the game, not the player.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Badminton AND Ryan Braun?

That’s a lot of hate for a Tuesday.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least a Thursday level of hatred

it’s like the crossword puzzle—it gets more extreme as the week goes on

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

warning for anticlimax

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2k-tsX5KE

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was some badass badminton

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

the crowd-gasms add to it.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure ain't the badminton played in my backyard

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

jesus christ

is there a way to unfollow somebody you’re already not following?

by DanUpBaby on Oct 18, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you could "block" them.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Television doesn't get better than the last 3 or so episodes of Breaking Bad.

Think I’m going to have to re-watch the whole season.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 18, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

NO SPOILERS

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

get to it!

there are references which can’t be held back forever.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huzzah!

I needed something to get past my 666th comment

check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos

by Dttl89 on Oct 18, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok plot question

how the fuck are there more episodes? The series is concluded, right?

by _pistol_ on Oct 18, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want to spoil anything.

But there is a sort of obvious way to go with it, when you think about it. Mentioned here, among other places. Ctrl-F “fifth and final” for the paragraph talking about what I’m talking about.

oh yeah THERE ARE SPOILERS IN THAT LINK, FOLKS

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok ok

i forgot about that part. antagonist exchange.

by _pistol_ on Oct 18, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm so bored, i'm ready to talk about the Rangers

someone fill us in, yo.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

A Nelson Cruz homerun ball just broke through the space/time continuum

It went back in time and killed young Hitler, preventing his rise to power.

Don’t worry, this created an alternate timeline that won’t have any effect on our own.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad Cazana is on our side

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

here I go OT, then.

http://type.method.ac/

a kerning game. yes. a game to challenge your typesetting skills.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

this seems very easy.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Offenses

Top 11 players by wRC+

Berkman(159)——————Napoli(178)
Craig(158)————————-Beltre(134)
Holliday(154)——————-Hamilton(129)
Pujols(148)————————Kinsler(128)
Punto(123 wat)—————-Young(127)
Molina(123)———————-Cruz(116)
Freese(122)———————Gentry(108) {I literally have no clue who this is}
Jay(112)—————————-Chavez(98)
Furcal(105)———————-Andrus(96)
Schumaker(89)—————Murphy(93)
Deslcaso(87)——————-Moreland(92)

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

From the Keith Ginter school of baseball

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, nevermind he was an infielder

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He originally pursued an interest in the honorable game of cricket

but upon finding that the noble sport of his ancestors was disdained by today’s common rabble, he chose instead to dedicate his considerable talents to demonstrating that a man of breeding and cultivation could excel at the new popular activity of “Base Thine Ball.”

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

how is punto higher than molina

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, SSS

Punto probably played 1/3 of the innings that Molina did

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS allen craig

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the DH really advantages us this series

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

[joke redacted about advantaging your mom]

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Napoli, WTFingF??????

I literally had no idea he had QUITE such an astounding season.

That Vernon Wells trade is looking better and better.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Napoli and Beltre were incredible acquisitions

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect excellence from Beltre.

He’s a really incredible player. Napoli’s always been under-rated, but I’ve always thought of him as an .800 OPS guy. To put up 1.046, a .414 OBP, in a down year for offense, from catcher? Incredible. If he put up 600 PAs he’d have out-stripped Joe Mauer’s career year, which IIRC was one of the top 5 all-time seasons from a catcher. Holy shit.

Mike Napoli lead the major leagues in wOBA. .444. Bautista put up a .441. I totally had no idea how amazing he’d been.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only reason I know how great he was in 2011 is him being on my fantasy baseball team.

(I know no one GAF.)

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same with me

I had Cruz too, I watched a lot of Rangers this year. I can give my expert scouting reports on them now guys!

by Wombat x on Oct 18, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Texas has been kind to Napoli

He had some monster stretches with the Angels.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hit like Pujols this year

30 homers in 113 games. Wowzers.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he plays a passable catcher, which helps out their lineup a lot in non-DH games

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking that Vernon Wells trade could literally be about the worst ever...

The Angels could’ve just had Napoli’s .444 wOBA playing in the OF this year, instead of Wells .285, and saved about $80m in the process. Wow.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeff Mathis omg

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very OT

Anyone playing Dark Souls? My life is basically unmanageable at this point, trying to juggle a baseball and a video game obsession simultaneously.

by jeff_abs on Oct 18, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Heads up, Game One attendees.

BJRains B.J. Rains
Fans are asked to arrive early tomorrow night for Game 1 due to increased security for dignitaries and special guests that are attending.

BJRains B.J. Rains
Gates open at 4pm tomorrow and the on-field ceremonies begin at 6:20 pm.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Where there be some St. Louis celebs in the crowd?

Maybe John Hamm and Jenna Fischer?

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Oct 18, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ladies (first and second)

clearly they heard Lance Lynn would be on the roster

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love john hamm so much.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's not too fond of saint louis anymore
It’s a good town to be from and a good place to be a kid…but it’s very much a place where when you grow up you either work for your dad or you leave town. There’s not a lot of innovation happening in St. Louis. For whatever reason, I always wanted to get out of that place.

Source: Marc Maron Podcast

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 18, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's actually the impression I get about that city as well

People here compare itself to STL a lot, and for the first time in awhile, KC is coming ahead

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i kind of want to live in KC for like three months.

just to check and out and stuff. i make fun of it a lot but i haven’t really been there.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I LOVE living here

They’ve revived a lot of neighborhoods, there’s innovation going on all around me (I live in the Crossroads district, where they just opened up the Kauffman Center). Cerner’s right here, Sprint’s not far away. I could’ve have been luckier

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

cerner recruits really hard from truman.

as do all the accounting firms. sprint for whatever reason does not.

maybe i’ll come spend a weekend of my break in KC. couldn’t hurt anything.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, yes they do

Which is why I now live here in KC. But, if you like to have a life at all, please do not go work for Cerner.

Otherwise, yeah, KC is a really sweet place to be.

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on Oct 18, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I very indirectly work for Cerner

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that doesn't really count

I was working there when they bought the Wizards. I imagine Neal doesn’t work you guys quite as hard as he does his code monkeys.

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I actually have a realllllllllllly cushy job

But I met Neal’s nephew randomly the other night. He… is not a fan of his uncle

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Illigs are cool though

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that's too bad.

work too much?

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once they get you there

They start you at 40 hours a week, like you’d expect. Everything is fine and dandy until they start asking for a few 50s every now and then (once every couple of months). Then 50s are the norm and 60s are the exception. Its like some elaborate long term torture, until you realize you have spent the last 12 days only working, eating and sleeping.

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on Oct 18, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, um, that's not the kind of work-life balance i'm looking for.

regardless, career fair tomorrow!

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

giggle

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It did make it a bunch easier when interviewing for jobs post Cerner

They didn’t even have to ask why I left, everyone understood.

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on Oct 18, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh so you did leave.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was only there for 16 months

June 2006 to October 2007. I have been at my current job since November 2007, and they actually like employees to have a work life balance. Its probably because they are much smaller and laid back.

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on Oct 18, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Career fair

What are you looking for a career doing?

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on Oct 18, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

pedantry

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear job prospects are good

in that line of work, but the pay is horrible.

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on Oct 18, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

accounting.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

couldn't've*

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You no longer have the right to correct anyone's grammar.
just to check and out and stuff.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i mistyped.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

tough.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

seems to still the the team

at least, when he called in yesterday

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 18, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

wut

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

er follow

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 18, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is the link to?

not working for me.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i understand that sentiment.

i didn’t grow up in st louis, so i have no special fondness for it other than the people i know and love who still call it home (namely my immediate family).

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something about chickens and eggs

I’ve heard about a dozen tales of people whose jobs forced them to move to St. Louis who thought they would hate it, and they they never left. It’s actually a great city to settle in, but for some reason tons of people get the whole “I’m gonna leave my crappy town for the big city” thing in their heads.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yes,

that’s the totally wrong approach. st louis is not a big city, and even if it were i feel like it wouldn’t really feel like one.

for all the shit i give st louis (and the midwest), being from california, it was really a nice place to live.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

coming from a small town of 1800

and moving here gives a person a great sense of anonymity. Back home I could be at a bar hitting on a friends friends ex girlfriend from 5 years ago and people in 6 towns know about it an hour later. Its nice to get away from the small town bullshit.

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was forced out of town when my dad got transferred

but it really was a great place to grow up. and if stupid wash U hadn’t wait-listed me for law school, i’d probably be living there now.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

fucking wash U!

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

but i wonder if i would have found veb. probably not. i wouldn't need an outlet if i was already living there

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

do subjunctive better.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

do verbs better.

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It is very difficult to talk to casual fans about baseball now.

I had lunch with my dad, a big Yankess fan (grew up in the 60s with Mantle on the TV), and our discussion turned to what the Yankees will do if CC opts out. I said it would be difficult for them to pay A-Rod, CC, and Teixeira during their decline years and that, in a couple of years Teixeira wouldn’t be a $20MM value at 1B. His response was, “What is $20MM in value? If he’s still hitting 30 HR and driving in 100 RBI, is that worth $20MM?”

My dad is much smarter than I am. But he has no concept of WAR. I didn’t even really know how to continue the discussion so I went to OBP, which he is somewhat familiar with.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think that's an insightful question

that not many casual baseball fans would have asked. at least, not the ones i know.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

That he arrived there immediately tells me that he would easily gobble up that type of analysis. He just doesn’t have the time. He still views hitters through BA, HR, and RBI. He also views pitchers based on W/L record and ERA. This is the baseball prism ingrained in him when he was growing up decades ago.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree

I normally just let me friends talk about whatever random stats they want and try and interject OPS in there or something when I can

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just grit my teeth, smile, and nod

when my patients start telling me Carpenter had a down year and needs to retire, etc.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know they aren't that dumb

Or at least the ones I’ve talked to. There’s a pretty rock solid theoretical foundation for OPS.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, i agree with you. it's funny though, i was very new to sabermetrics when i joined veb.

i knew i was smarter than the p-d posters, but i didn’t know WHY.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got into it.

When I coached my younger brother’s teams, I actually used OBP to construct the lineup. This was back before I discovered that batting order didn’t matter.

I had a long email exchange with Derrick Goold on the relative values of Renteria and Grudz and the Cardinals’ reported offers to each player. Then I wound up here.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

"batting order doesn't matter"

doesn’t it matter a tiny bit? like one or two wins over the course of a season?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

baseballmusings lineup generator says

The difference between the best possible lineup, and a typical {scrub scrub Pujols Berkman Holliday scrub scrub scrub Pitcher} lineup, was about 58 runs. The difference between the worst possible vs best possible lineups for the 2011 cardinals was about 111 runs. Simply batting the pitcher 8th gained about 25 runs, and swapping Yadi and Furcal between 7th and leadoff is worth about 8 runs, though things like that have second-order effects that aren’t measured in the model.

link IE (5.308 – 4.620)*162

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 18, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure baseball musings is just a regression

You’d need a markov chain to do this right.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The CasualFan I seem to end up having the most

Is that Barry Bonds was better than Griffey in the 90s even before the juice. I’ve actually ended up turning a couple people on to saber stuff because of that factual statement.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

this.

thanks for nothing, veb.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

hah.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still love talking historical baseball

and being nostalgic of the teams of my youth (Willie McGee’s BABIP in 1985 was perfectly normal, thank you very much!), but I have basically stopped talking baseball with most of my real life friends. My wife has picked up on the concepts pretty well, and my dad always has, so that’s been helpful…

Wait… is this like SABR therapy?

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

He was pretty, really shitty in Sucker Punch and The Town. Those are the only things I’ve seen him in, so I might be biased.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

go watch mad men.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's the yuni betancourt of actors

no range, really, but looks awfully good when you hit it right at him. and don draper is right at him.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he was great on 30 rock

speaking of…what happened to that show

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tina Fey got pregnant, had a baby.

It’s back in January.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, that's right. cool.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jon Hamm's

appearance on Between Two Ferns is his greatest comedic work

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 18, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did really well on that episode.

And in Bridesmaids.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really enjoyed "Hamm and Buble"

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

President of the Tyler Greene fan club - Wiki - PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 18, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I should probably watch this

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

SHE WENT TO TRUMAN

/obligatory

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

theater major with a journalism minor (lolz)

she originally enrolled as a pre-law history major.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i'm not having this discussion.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

the liberal arts are fine

if you want to be the put-upon secretary of some regional paper concern all your life

by DanUpBaby on Oct 18, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

have they said who's throwing the first pitch

this morning on mlbn i heard something about billy bob thorton or adam wainwright.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were taking fan suggestions.

I’d love to see Waino do it, myself.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

same. it would be symbolic in a multitude of ways

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

just take a half day.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No outside food? BOOOOOO

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, that's really fucking lame.

no “soda” for anyone.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

freaking serious?

The second best part of going to a game is my liter bottle of “Diet Mountain Dew.”

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep. No liquids. TSA rules.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

SNIPERS

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

guess they'll have to shut down the arch too

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

all for michelle obama.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey don't be dissin Dr. Biden

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Pawnee Rangers

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

mark it fucking zero

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, seriously

Shit’s morose all up in here

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

no basbol

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

the weather's all gloomy and stuff.

doesn’t help.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a work day with no baseball on the heels of a work day with no baseball.

What’s to be happy about?

And if you tell me I should just be happy with my life, I narrow my eyes at you.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

when did we turn into a bunch of gdms

sorry gdm

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

I jest. Actually, I have a date tonight that I’m rather excited about. So there. Life is good.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

hurray!

pegusi are hits with the ladies. lemme tell you. athene particularly.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

the size of the horn doesn't matter

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what peguseseses with small horns say

Also, I’ve heard that they tend to lie about the size on the internet a lot. Just something to keep in mind.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

you guys have your imaginary animals somewhat mixed up

and also, now i’m wondering where the crap i came up with this handle

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

we really wanted to trigger an existential crisis.

sorry.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's weird, it's been my default online-forum handle since forever

but WHY? i have no particular affinity for pegasi; sometimes i mix them up with unicorns, too. oh well.

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

have a towel

no one puts this in their lifetime plan

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

y'know, whatever happens, the offseason is approaching

is there something we can do for the withdrawal

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Post lots of late-night gifs?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, I'm sure we can come up with tons of stuff during the offseason

(I CAN’T IMAGINE WHAT WE MIGHT TALK ABOUT)

but in the immediate aftermath… that morning after is a —.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

FOR TORTY.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm gonna fanshot this shit sooner or later

Mozeliak on the annual dinner (that one with the businesses and the Cardinals peeps)

"Tony was great," Mozeliak recalled of the speech by Manager Tony La Russa. "He talked about, ‘We’re not quitting, [even though] this is tough.’ Then, [pitcher Adam] Wainwright gets up, and it’s like this sort of emotional, ‘We’re in this thing. Hey, if we can sweep the Brewers, we’re right back in this thing.’ It was great."
"[Mozeliak] has to say those things in that situation," Wainwright said. "But in this room, we never lost faith. We never lost hope. Now, saying it and doing it are two different things. I’m still not sure how we did it. But we did."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/for-resilient-cardinals-there-was-never-a-doubt/2011/10/17/gIQAbtQ6rL_story.html

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

....
For Mozeliak’s sake, it is a good thing his viewpoint wasn’t shared by the men in uniform, whose job it is to believe and to fight for life, even when they were 98.9 percent dead.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...mostly dead?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was that damn puffer fish powder!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Y2S: You ever figure out that trivia question?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

wait, someone asked a trivia question?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The one about which player hadn't played in the postseason at any pro level

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh right, I did.

I think it was two players out of the active 40. hang on, let me backtrack .Rzep is a borderline case, but he did well enough to be in a featured article in that Appy league series.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

first big dances

Gerald Laird
Corey Patterson

I still have to double-check Adron Chambers. (Actually, it all has to be double-checked.) That’s pretty much it. Even if limited to 2005 and on, and AAA and up, that’s still most of the roster.

The Mafia went all the way to the championship series two years in a row.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chambers played for Memphis just last year, didn't he?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he might not have been on the postseason roster

I’ve been trying to find his name in the box scores, though I might’ve missed something.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's on the roster

Starting pitcher for games 1 and 5

Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Oct 18, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully not.

And then he can take his ring and get the fuck off my team.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Oct 18, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

is anyone a little weirded out by Gerald Laird?

is that just me?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Remember that time he and Yadi fought?

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't even understand what that was.

i mean, nothing against his surprise!offense, but we’ve had a lot of weird dudes as backup catcher. this is the first guy who seems like Billy Bob Thornton in an action movie.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those are the kinds of clubhouse issues that doomed this team

and led to them watching the Miladelphia Phillers face the New Boston Yank Sox in the World Series at home on their couches.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fried chicken

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zaxby's

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zaxby's

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ain't nothin' wrong wit dat

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Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's hits in that chicken

said Col—- oh noooooo

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

breaking news involving beer!
BREAKING: Philly Mayor Mike Nutter yet to pay up on NLDS bet with @mayorslay. #1800BETSOFF @jeremykohler

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Slay really as bad as everybody on Twitter makes him out to be?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

At times

I should just stop before we get into the forbidden topic.

by bailorg on Oct 18, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

Nutter

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FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Oct 18, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehe hehe

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

can i get some honest input...

do i really make myself look like an ass, or do you guys just like to rib me for every little detail? no seriously, honest input would be nice.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

or to you period.

ZING

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's helping in your campaign, I'm sure.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly

it’s a little bit of both. You make yourself look like an ass, then others goad you into looking more like an ass. It’s a vicious cycle.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He takes it well, though!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've honestly though about changing my handle.

but you guys would notice. so it wouldn’t really matter.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

love me love me

say that you love me

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 18, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

After putting Brown Eyed Girl in my own head

You go and replace with that.

Evil.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

here ya go, TB

try this

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. I actually just described my actions above as "ribbing" you (regarding Truman). Weird that we both chose the same dated term.

I do get a bit irritated with the male/female child stuff, as it’s something I hear a ton, but I would have responded the same way to any other poster.

Keep on keepin’ on, fang.

by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

shut up.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you make yourself look insecure :)

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know he does.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only reason people make fun of you is because they know that you have the mental capacity to take it

Nobody wants to pick on a 70 year old or a 12 year old because one will write fifty paragraph rebuttal and the other will resort to dialogue more often found on a Call Of Duty chatlog. Don’t worry, it’s a good thing.

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think you look like an ass

but i’ve never really been on the “beat up on fang train” which is apparently a thing? anyway, i enjoy your contributions here and you are far from annoying in your participation here.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

They're just insecure about their lack of hair

Or in Mysterui’s case, too much.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colby Lewis announced as game 2 starter

damn, was hoping they would use him in Arlington, dude loves to give up a homer

by Wombat x on Oct 18, 2011 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

That's good news for us I think

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have preferred Holland game 2

which is how they have been going the last two series. Lewis is a good road pitcher, he just gets completely killed by that park.

by Wombat x on Oct 18, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

I was reading lonestarball and they were saying Holland last year in the WS you could literally see him shaking on the mound.

by Wombat x on Oct 18, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that's why they're pitching him in St. Louis.

And why they pitched him in Detroit. More of a pitchers park and he usually pitches much better on the road.

Also, there’s this.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Oct 19, 2011 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

argh, can someone see this photo (and yoink it out)

Leach

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

please?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prom?

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they have a stuffed Sully on display

and inside Sully’s stomach they found the remains of Nyjer Morgan

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 18, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the old standby themes:

Under the Sea
Moonlight Serenade
Behind the Stadium

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Behind the stadium

sounds like something a shady scalper would say

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 18, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Van Morrison

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damnit now I have to do rewrite Brown Eyed Girl

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the correct play

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

So hard to find my way

Running out past home
RoyO saw me just the other day
Said, “That was no pitch I’d thrown.”

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In 1998, my dad left me with a scalper while he went to an ATM to get cash

It was the last game of the season, and he wanted to make sure the scalper didn’t sell the agreed-upon seats while he was gone, but still.

by tomsteele on Oct 18, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has a new daddy now.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

the tortoise tribe eventually acquired him.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

amazingly enough, we got the tickets!

and saw mcgwire hit some dingers! plus jd drew hit a foul ball that kneecapped some lady.

by tomsteele on Oct 18, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first injury involving JD Drew

that wasn’t JD Drew

check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos

by Dttl89 on Oct 18, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Under the Bleachers?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'll be havin' some fun–!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

....what in the world is that.

a trip hazard

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

Welcome to Carp’s Luggage Shack, where we don’t give a fuck if you want to be luggaged or not

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 18, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

article on the Guy in the Truck!!

http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_19138502

So yes, it appears Tom Mee got a ring on 06. quotes about Punto and McGwire.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL RAIDERS

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope, that was about it

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, what a fucking stupid move

I can’t believe the bengals got out of that mess with a positive

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The raiders don’t have a draft pick until the third round of 2016

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I laughed at this.

And then verified.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

All the more reason to try and get a QB

that can help you out until then. Especially when the team you have is capable of winning your division.

I think this move is being poo-poohed, but Palmer grew up in Cali. If he’s successful in turning around his career out there then the Raiders get a franchise QB. That’s not a terrible trade really.

Of course, they could have just taken Phil Rivers when they had the chance.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

THEY TRADED TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS FOR A GUY WHO WAS GOING TO GET CUT

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn't going to get cut.

Wasn’t going to happen. Someone would have dealt for him before they decided to cut him. Which is probably why the Raiders made his move now. I’m sure there were other teams sniffing around as well.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWO HIGH ROUND PICKS

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

in this NFL though, with the rookie salary cap scale, those picks are SO effing valuable.

hit on ONE and you have great bargain performance for 4 years.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

CORRECTION: THEY TRADED ONE FIRST ROUND PICK AND A CONDITIONAL 2ND ROUND PICK

FOR A GUY WHO HASN’T BEEN GOOD SINCE 2006 AND WAS EVENTUALLY GOING TO GET CUT

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 18, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

AGAIN WITH EVALUATING SOMETHING BASED ENTIRELY ON CONJECTURE.

I’m not saying it was the best trade in pro sports this year and should win an award.*

I am saying that this is a team that is nearly a decade removed from a playoff appearance, just lost their QB for the season, and made a move to bring in someone who could help them make the playoffs this season. In so many words: I can understand the trade. Do I think it’s too much? Probably. But if that’s the asking price then you have to assume that there are other teams interested in making the deal (Miami, for one).

*Clearly, this should go to whoever brought Mike Napoli to the Rangers while giving up basically nothing.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

see, i disagree entirely with this premise.
But if that’s the asking price then you have to assume that there are other teams interested in making the deal (Miami, for one).

from everything the media has said, and everything the Bengals have done, Carson Palmer was not supposed to get traded. Mike Brown wanted to make an example of him. Mike Brown is also an absurdly stubborn man, so this makes quite a bit of sense. you think the Colts didn’t call the Bengals when it was clear Peyton wasn’t going to play? they clearly had no interest in tanking the season for Luck.

Miami, on the other hand (yes, I realize this was just an example, but permit me to rant for a moment), I am sure was NOT interested in making the deal. Miami is interested in going 0-16 and getting Andrew Luck, not getting a mediocre quarterback and winning 4 games instead, just enough to keep them out of the top pick. do you honestly think anything short of Tom Brady would even get Miami to .500?

what I hypothesize happened was that Hue Jackson, now, for better or for worse, almost entirely in control of the Raiders (again, I am basing this premise on media reports), who has worked with Carson Palmer before, saw Campbell go down and got very upset. and Hue Jackson decided he wanted Carson Palmer. I don’t think there WAS an asking price for Carson Palmer- people have called, and the Bengals have just flat said no- they haven’t negotiated before this, as far as we know. the Raiders decided they wanted Carson, and made an offer that even crotchety old Mike Brown could not refuse- especially with a rising young team that only needs a few more pieces to turn into a solid team for several years to come.

just my two cents- I don’t have any hard information here, but it just seems like this is more likely to me.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You may disagree, but this premise isn't any more objective than the one I made:
from everything the media has said, and everything the Bengals have done, Carson Palmer was not supposed to get traded. Mike Brown wanted to make an example of him.

Furthermore, I’m sure that the Colts called them. The issue is that the Colts value their draft picks and the Raiders don’t (although, looking at their last five first round picks, one might wonder if they shouldn’t be trading them for veteran talent or trading down to acquire more second and third rounders like the Patriots do).

They’re not going to give up a good draft pick for Carson Palmer when they can sign Kerry Collins, who actually probably fit their system better anyway if he could still actually play. The problem is that he can’t play anymore, and the Colts are far worse at every other position than most of us anticipated.

I don’t think Miami was interested in making a deal either, but then why in the fuck did they sign Reggie Bush? They already had Daniel Thomas and they let Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown walk so they could get REGGIE BUSH? I mean, that might be the stupidest signing of the entire offseason if you don’t include the Michael Vick extension. They could have signed Darren Sproles for less money and gotten a better player. There’s a reason Parcells got the hell out of Miami a couple of years ago, and Sparano should have followed him out of town if he knew what was good for him. You have the latino version of Dan Snyder running the show down there, and he just goes out and gets guys that he sees in commercials and shit to play on his football team.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 19, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was pretty widely known that Mike Brown had no intention of trading Palmer
I’m not expecting [Carson Palmer] to be back. Carson signed a contract, he made a commitment. He gave us his word. We relied on his word and his commitment. We expected him to perform here. If he is going to walk away from his commitment we aren’t going to reward him for doing it," Brown said via the Cincinnati Enquirer when asked about a possible trade.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/26/mike-brown-were-not-going-to-reward-carson-palmer-with-trade/

by all4tookie on Oct 19, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to argue the semantics of a press release.

However, I see nothing in this statement about him being cut either, which is what everyone above seems to be suggesting.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 19, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, there's no way he was going to be cut

that was never going to happen.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, it's definitely not more objective.

i’m definitely not “right” here- i just think this is more likely to be what happened.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i thought al davis died.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

@BJRains
B.J. Rains
Westbrook says he is on the roster.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

bs

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

then is Kmac off?

what about schumaker? FFFUUU

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, KMac is apparently off the roster in favor for Westbrook

That’s not really a bad move; they both suck, but westy can induce more groundballs, which is a plus in the arlington bandbox. still, meh.

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 18, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just like the NLDS, a series in which Westbrook did not pitch.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

or the NLCS

where kmac pitched one inning

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 18, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

*1/3 of an inning

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well SOMEONE has to give us more than one inning

To be honest, another 7 game series with out starters giving us 2 or 3 innings scares the crap out of me.

by sdrone on Oct 18, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Westbrook also reports that he has a magic pony that can fly to the moon, and that his car is "made of solid gold.

…actually, I’m sure he really is on the roster, I just couldn’t resist the joke

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

"I'm not greedy," said Westbrook

As long as I’ve got my health, my solid gold house, my rocket car, and my millions of dollars, I don’t need anything else

by dmiles on Oct 19, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

THOSE BLINTZES WERE LOUSY

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 19, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

PAINT MY FENCE

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 19, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

kmac would have said the same thing before the NLDS

i’d like more confirmation that bjrain’s twitter

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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 18, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kurkjian.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey i got game 7 tickets!

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

o/

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

\o

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

;)

how?

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

cardinals.com

and a lot of patience. section 446

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are seats, you just have to keep at it.

but it was weird, this time i got a pop up message that said “congratulations! you have been randomly selected to join the virtual waiting room for a chance to buy tickets!” or something like that.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn.

i should tell my brother to get on it.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you bill the time spent acquiring the tickets to "Game 7, LLC?"

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i wish. this whole last week has been very bad

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh

i sat three rows from the ceiling at chase field for the 2001 nlds. i lived. its actually kind of cool, you can see everything

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

how in the hell

can they have “high transaction volume” when they only have a few hundred tickets MAX? This is so damn frustrating

by jeff_abs on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh FFS

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

...one?

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The perma-Red Sox crawl.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ding

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ding

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Curt Schilling: Baseball Analyst"

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ding

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Red Sox pitchers drinking beer and eating chicken

is really ticker worthy? WTF ESPN? How lame can that network get?

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Oct 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, they should be analyzing two dudes trying to shake hands!

we demand real news!

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

now I want to see

the NY Rangers and the Arizona Cardinals play an exhibition baseball game.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Indeed

I suspect the rangers would be in good shape at the plate (at least some degree of hand-eye coordination overlap between hockey stick and baseball bat wielding), but I’d be most excited about watching an offensive linesman heading into second to break up a dp.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think they should play an exhibition football game

a few hours before first pitch of the Texas@St. Louis

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 18, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

been away from the computer a bit

It seems a World Series featuring the Cardinals is about to get underway.

This is pleasing.

Post’s title garners a rec on its own and reminds me a bit of Wainwright being quoted that it “isn’t like my elbow is about to pop” a couple of weeks before his elbow popped.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks Eduardo

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh no! Bud Norris picks Rangers over Cards

#budchuck intrigued by match-up

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

As long as he's not pitching for them

check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos

by Dttl89 on Oct 18, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

McClellan off, according to Rains

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by mysterui on Oct 18, 2011 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh. That's likely to become a curse here at VEB.

A la, “McClellan off, zoomzoom! Go rain on someone else’s parade!”

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 18, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woh

Dunk’s Fanshot

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by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, that's been making the rounds

old, old old gameshow footage.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nipsy Russell and Dick Van Patten....

The royalty of the 70’s

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

First thing I thought when I saw the matchup

by LandSickness on Oct 18, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, theyre 6ly flawed

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't tell Y2S

Is anyone else seeing that the SBN search results are no longer exhaustive? It used to be (< two days ago) when you searched, e.g., for a username, you’d get all of their comments. Now a much smaller subset is returned. I can’t tell if it’s filtered by date or something else, but it’s definitely not showing everything, and it’s definitely a very recent change.

by brackenthebox on Oct 18, 2011 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

do you hear that scream?

it is y2s crying out in anguish.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

I’ve just been telling y’all so. my conscience is clear.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've warned about this for years.

but it’s possible it’s also a temporary database thing.

of course, I got poo-poo’d when I pushed for the mods to have physical backup copies of everything in VEB, comments included.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

An email to one of my mailing lists from grad school showed up today that you might appreciate

It was discussing how we could future proof the internet against the possibility (likelihood) of international conflict. A few excerpts:

The idea of a canonical website is good and could be accomplished in a number of ways such that the cost to maintain such a site approaches zero with time while allowing mirroring (for example a bittorrent seed or a tree of hashes allowing anyone to efficiently confirm that their mirror is complete/correct).

I’m concerned that our failure to mirror academic knowledge, after some future conflict, may cause that knowledge and history be forever lost to us.
Failure Mode 1: The internet is based on a certain level of mutual trust among countries. This trust has been built during a brief lull in conflicts (the internet is a product of the current age of innocence). It seems unlikely to me that in a conflict the internet will be strategically neutral. One side will benefit for shutting themselves off, creating devices intentionally incompatible with the global internet. There is a argument to be made that the internet will not survive the next global conflict (although it may regrow in a time of peace afterwards). Thus the wide distribution of this knowledge will prevent it from being trapped in one national internet or incompatible format.
The Library of Alexandra was a wonderful project, but its destruction is still being felt. Going forward it is our obligation to future generations that we make the modern equivalent more robust.

by brackenthebox on Oct 18, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, this is just from my own relatively short experience with social network-type sites

when they fail, they do not give you fair warning. they’re just gone. and no amount of archive site digging brings them back. and no, it’s not always about the network, or the people behind the network. all it takes is one acquisition or natural disaster or someone’s credit gets blown up.

if I were to hypothetically have internet presence… VEB is the only place where I don’t have all of my material backed up and in multiple harddrives. with me.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

now i'm really sad

imagining what will happen when veb dies.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, if you guys don't care about the lboros era, then that's a community consensus

that’s just one thing that someone might be looking for. with data storage these days, it should not be difficult to pack up VEB in someone’s basement. it’s just needless to assume that all this stuff that will appear in no box score and no ESPN vault is just supposed to disappear. it’s the 21st century. demand your flying car.

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

AUGH

wait. i thought the SEARCH was just non-comprehensive now.

are you saying the first posts on veb may NO LONGER EXIST?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, i'm not being that alarmist

yet
but if you can’t find them, that’s as good as them not existing.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

in theory

this shouldn’t be too hard to do, right? Scrape the site with a python script, throw all the text files on a hard drive and (hopefully) forget about it?

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's I've always thought.

i mean, i’m not technically adept at all, but I have three dl’d programs that do it automatically on other sites. and they scoop comments too.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only thing we should expect to lose are picture files, IMO.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll put this on my list

of interesting things to try if I can find the time. I’ve been looking for a project that I could use to learn my way around the python web libraries.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course

I should note that most things on that list never get done

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not like I can gloss'rily throw stones.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a one-liner with wget

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/downloading-entire-web-site-wget

cron it to run regularly, and you’re done. The python scripting could be useful to provide better structuring or search, but archiving the site itself shouldn’t be too tough. Someone just has to actually do it. In fairness, this is basically what sites like archive.org do to the entire internet.

by brackenthebox on Oct 18, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I DO NOT APPROVE OF THIS WHATSOEVER

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS....it's all gone.

Even in the “power search” mode. Nothing from 2008 – 2010 for me. All of my little pebbles dropped to find things, and there gone.

dan’s gonna hear about this.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, on the bright side, I won't have to chronicle any Colby memes

oh, too soon?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

use google!

if you’re looking for a specific date, it’s easier….searching for a while year would be tough.

But entering [riverrat (date) site:vivaelbirdos.com] would turn up stuff. There are some cache sites out there that might have old pages backed up. I don’t know how far back the SBN database goes.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

completely useless if looking for a specific date.

completely useless if looking for all instances of a phrase (trust me).
completely useless if needing to search comments instead of fanposts.

I’ve been there — google does not cut it.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting for an image search though.

I’m on the hunt for the wizard at this moment.

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by RiverRat on Oct 18, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

pictures and captions pulled by AP

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

not surprising but just to confirm

miklasz Bernie Miklasz
Carpenter and Garcia for sure; but discussion will be Games 3 and 4. But for now Lohse and Jackson.

by Wombat x on Oct 18, 2011 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

So,

Lohse for 3 (and, thus, 7)? I wondered about this. Not sure if I like it or not, probably not. Lohse does seem to be a bit more consistent than Jackson. Albeit, that consistency is not as good as when Jackson is “on”.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i'm kind of surprised by that

rather have jackson in a game 7 at home than lohse. you can argue it either way though

by Wombat x on Oct 18, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

Kevin Millar – now there is a dumb mofo…

by guayzimi on Oct 18, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it doesn't show World Series press conferences in their entirety,

what is the point of the MLBN?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 18, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

SNIPERS

city gets ready

might be SBN’d, i’m seein’ some weird sh*

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

sh**

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

in fairness, i oddly shift-A'd this thread when it was at like 900 comments earlier

having not read 95% of them, so i’m only reading like 400 of them.

i do that sometimes. i’m really not sure why.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I skipped the entire comparative athletics bit at the top

whoooooo carrrrrrrrrres

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by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

blah blah blah LeBron can jump really high

on that note, not sure who it was, maybe fourstick, but there’s no way LeBron is the fastest baseline to baseline player in the NBA. maybe fastest small forward- maybe fastest small forward EVER, but if you try to tell me LeBron is faster than even, say, Ray Felton, I just don’t believe that. and I watch a LOT of NBA.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

this just in!

Albert Pujols shakes hands with Ron Washington!
BBTN replaces coffee table with full desk!
AAaaahh!

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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Kurkjian
I spoke to Chris Carpenter and he assured me he would be ready to go

he spoke like a guy who was going to go out there and pitch really well

and then Timmeh peed his pants.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

oh rats

it’s SBN deadhour.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's got a lot of confidence, and he's the ace.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

you don't wake up in the morning planning for your starters to go short

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it was more like

you dont wake up in morning and plan starters pitch short

by Wombat x on Oct 18, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm trying to translate

I had the volume turned down way too low, though.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

what a relief

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, it's Ozzie Guillen and Kruk

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

CJ Wilson says
I’ll stand behind whatever [Nolan Ryan] says, because he can beat people up.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Know your opponent

MLBN web simulcast. They’re breaking down the Rangers now.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Isn't it odd?

The Rams’ schedule seems downright prescient at this point. As we were finishing the Brewers off, the Rams were up in Wisconsin as well. Now that we’re prepping to face the Rangers… the Rams are getting ready to play the Cowboys. I can only take this as evidence that we’re going to play some mythical team from New Orleans after this Rangers series is over.

by Phizzle on Oct 18, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Or the remainder of the Rams' season will be cancelled

due to lack of interest.

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 18, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

if only

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

They’re better off just going 0-16, winning the Andrew Luck sweepstakes, and then parlaying that pick into multiple picks in the 2012 and 2013 draft to address actual areas of need. I think Bradford would be fine if they could just block in front of him and give him someone to throw to.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 18, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is going to be absolutely disgusting if this happens and Luck gets traded to Dallas or the Niners

because we know both those teams would dramatically overpay for him, and would also both probably turn into a powerhouse for the next 10+ years.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think either of those teams would overpay to grab Luck in the top spot

and they won’t have a shot anyway. The Rams aren’t going to deal the top pick for a pick that’s 20th or later in the draft in 2012 — they’re going to dangle it out there to the other teams with potentially top 5 picks that need QB’s, like Miami, Seattle, Denver, Kansas City, and Indy (assuming Manning is hurt as bad as reports indicate) and take the best offer given to them by one of those other teams.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 19, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

completely agree.

the rams have their quarterback and the foundation for a good defense, they just need to friggin’ block and catch the damn ball.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 19, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is assuming that running backs in the NFL have any trade value

Unless they’re named Adrian Peterson or Darren McFadden they really don’t. And Peterson probably doesn’t have a ton of value now that he’s signed a deal guaranteeing him a lot of money.

I would guess that you could get a 2nd and 4th round pick for Jackson, but not a 1st rounder. He’s been fairly banged up the past couple of seasons and his best years are likely behind him at this point.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 19, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. But a 2nd and a 4th rounder will be more valuable than Jackson going forward.

Assuming the Rams dont eff up the picks, so…

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 19, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

given their recent history

Long, good pick, Bradford good pick, But they were all first rounders, how many 2nd and 4th rounders are playing for the Rams now?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 19, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Laurinaitis and Saffold!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 19, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno about that

I think this team is one good draft and a free agent signing away from being a pretty good team. The defense is already pretty good, they just need a decent CB that can cover. You have a good young QB and a solid running back but the WR corps has been decimated by injuries the last couple of seasons to the point where the passing game just doesn’t scare anyone right now.

I think Jackson might have more value to the Rams the next couple of years than a couple of middle round picks would be. Especially if you can put a good team around him for the first time in his career.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Oct 19, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jackson wouldn't command that in a trade market.

I’d be pleasantly surprised with just a 3rd round pick and that’s just not worth it.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 19, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

hundred year old guy winning marathon

never seen a cubs world series championship

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   4 recs

oops. BBTN on fespn2

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

omg there is a tarp on the field!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guillen says, ask the pitcher first, with all the trainers and people and stuff;

Dunc and TLR should know Carp because they’ve known him for so long.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Kurkjian says to Guillen and Kruk that they probably didn't use "cryotherapy" back in the day.

long pause. Ravech asks if they know what that is.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

three dudes show up behind the fence!

you go, three dudes.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

more dudes are showing up.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tom, Santa Gluas isn't real.

If you’re dad had ever come back from the ATM, you would have known this by now.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

*your

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

but ... but ...

who ate all the cookies i left out for him?

by tomsteele on Oct 18, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

that wasn't me

this time

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 18, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

batslam

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully!

We’re sitting a Bud and a turkey leg by the fireplace tonight!

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

nervous

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having withdrawals

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLBN interview with Sauce.

First question about vision… “I’m not that blind”

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

sure, Jason

keep telling them that

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

the next time Motte pitches

will be the first time I can ever remember being interested in watching how the pitcher gets the ball back from the catcher.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a little scary for the hitter.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

has he been doing that consistently?

I always figured he just needed to pace around the mound….

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

most of the time

it’s part of his circuit. sometimes it seems like the pitch isn’t even in Yadi’s glove and he’s off the mound.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would search for my original comments in 2008

but. hahaha.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

this made me really sad :[

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was an amusing exchange

after Ravech asks Ozzie about something he said about his old pitching coach, it ends with hesitant Kruk and then Ravech goes “Did you two ever fight?”

I never fight him, but he might get me killed!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

that was Ozzie

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're talkin' Freese now.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is creepily cool to watch the shadows grow into full darkness behind them.

and hey, same thing outside my window!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

that might be a shot at us, eh?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you can see it

yeah it could be heh. someone made the comment “the mcgwire squirrel”

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

PEDs are a favorite excuse

among the fanbases of teams that the Cards beat. Been going on for a long, tiresome time.

Someone at FakeBCB brought it up too.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

and of course Tony is a drunk, cause he got a DUI

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

this was actually on the rally squirrel’s page. so for the most part it was for fun (but yeah one person had to bring it up).

I’ve grown to expect people to hate the Cardinals to some extent. sort of like how people hate the Yankees (except with no logic)

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of PED's

Am I the only one surprised this issue never came up with Mark McGwire after he became the hitting coach? I remember a ton of hoopla when it was first announced, but after the season started, the media suddenly stopped caring. Thank goodness for that.

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 18, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other fans still love to use it as a crutch.

But, yeah, after he came clean it all went away. Which is how most people thought it would go.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, well, other fans will use *anything* they can find as a crutch

but I agree, I’m pretty satisfied with how that whole thing turned out

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 18, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He honestly and openly admitted it.

No running, hiding, denying, and it took the wind right out of their sails. If he had done it 5 years earlier, life wouldn’t have been nearly as difficult.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Someone"

By that, you mean basically the whole fucking community.

President of the Tyler Greene fan club - Wiki - PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE
Google+ <
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 18, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats just wrong

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like a fucking tarantula.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

By George, that's brilliant!!

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Oct 19, 2011 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn, I got less than nothin' done today. sigh.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

i've noticed at least twice recently

that i’m getting RTs from people for whom i have RTs turned off

anyone else?

also occasionally tweets will not show up in my timeline. i’ll know because someone will reply to a tweet i haven’t read and i’ll look for it to see how i missed it and it’s not there

twitter, functionally, sucks

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I think if they add to the RT you get it.

I also don’t always get tweets. It’s annoying.

2011 - Year of Our Berk

by spants on Oct 18, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLBN Paths to the Championship

Now, Texas.
In a hour, Philadelphia Milwaukee Atlanta St. Louis

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

i get a little nervous that the other side's looking at it

which is completely paranoid, because surely they have even better stats than that

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

the one for Berkman does not include any data from LHP

which makes me wonder how accurate the whole thing is.

Looks cool though.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leach on the roster additions

for those of you looking for more info

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I really don't get Schu being on there.

Other than pure loyalty, why put a guy on there that is of questionable health? Especially, when you’ve got a speedy kid in Chambers.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone, now!

because….

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

and again I say

ffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu…..

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU THINK SCHUMAKER WON'T GET THE GWRBI IN A DECISIVE SERIES GAME?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

once in his lifetime

and it already happened

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 lh starters?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 18, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially especially when Texas has so many lefty pitchers

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

the logic side of my brain just screamed

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chambers is also lefthanded.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he's fast and not hurt

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

(The answer is actually, Tyler Greene.)

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, but it is

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 18, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

make you a deal

I say we throw both Schu and Theriot off and replace them with Greene AND Chambers. How would that suit you?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

all Skip is going to do is take minutes away from Punto

Punto’s a much better fielder, even if Schumaker is marginally a better hitter vs RHP. Go figure.

Then again, Skip had the winner against Halladay, so the only thing I can do is ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Schu * 0.75) / Riot = ??

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Oct 18, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't dividing by zero cause black holes?

not cool, man, not cool at all.

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 18, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

or heck

the whole game, either or

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

condensed

link

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 18, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gave up and shift+A'd 2/3 of this thread

Hope I didn’t miss anything very important.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

It was a wise move.

Did you bring any baseball with you?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

...you're not creepy enough?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Impossible.

No, I only brought carrots and no baseball.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

gnaw it into a passable bat, I guess.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

or a shiv so chitown...

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 18, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn't there a movie about that... that one guy who always eats carrots.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fight Club 2: VEB

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 18, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's with that british guy

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

shoot em up?

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 18, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

if that's the one with the baby, yes.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never seen the move.

I just used the great power of google.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 18, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was overtabbed, so thanks

it’s surprisingly difficult to fanshot on the fly

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

read the catchers article.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

weirdly, I had already done that this morning.

I think this means someone I respect tweeted it this morning.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

hrm. well, Westy and Schu are in.

board Busch Stadium like you’re boarding a plane.
and uhm. oh yes, I’m not telling you about SBN search. we agreed not to tell clank, right?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

aw hell now I have to ctrl+f

and Schu and Westy? Don’t hate that.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually noticed the SBN problems a day or two ago

I thought maybe it was an error and would go away.
Aw hell

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i need to read that

also, everyone claims that it’s interesting,but no one has anything to say about it.

so i’m not sure

but i don’t have time to read it now

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

you doubt VEB?

alas, pj.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

just got done with it a little bit ago

it’s long. It’s interesting. Many very well-thought out graphs. Yadi ranks highly.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it looked long

and it looked like it required the mindset of reading a scientific research paper. don’t know if i can get into that mindset tonight

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are pretty pictures.

i liked it.
math is my enemy.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ten minutes

Probably less for anybody with young eyes, because the subscripts are hard to read and blowing it up to where I can read them means a lot of lateral scrolling

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Oct 18, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

the little triangles on each of the graphs made them make a lot more physical sense

towards the last third of the article, I started skipping some of the fine print though cause I wanted to get to the conclusion.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it’s not just interesting stuff, it’s outstanding presentation.

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Oct 18, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

should we invite the Lone Star Ball folks over?

they need to join VEB tonight so they can post here tomorrow if they like to

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 18, 2011 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

who's telling them about the no politics rule

and will they actually believe us

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

what a joke.

next it’ll be one day and it’ll only take one rec to turn things green.
WHO WILL PRESERVE THE PURITY OF OUR SITE

jokes and jokes and jokes

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, purity?

am i in the wrong site?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

the purity of VEB

isn’t the dictionary definition of purity, really.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're talking in a biblical sense, right?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh my.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

had to be said

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't remember if I signed up two days ago or three.

But never fear, I’m here now. And just in time for game day. Here’s to a good series.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Oct 19, 2011 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was over there the other day.

Seem like an okay bunch for the most part. Don’t really seem to care much about other sites but I could be wrong. they were hospitable. Seem to be rather certain that they’re going to run roughshod over us.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, friends of mine ask me to hold the 4 extra tickets i have for game one for them

so i don’t list them
tonight they call me and tell me they “changed their mind because it’s too cold so they don’t want to make the four hour trip just to freeze in the stadium”
needless to say that friendship has been cancelled

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 18, 2011 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I could be there by noon tomorrow.

Unfortunately, I’ll be at work instead.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

wuss

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

GIVE THEM TO ME!

but not really.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaa!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll go and I can pay.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

email selqniq at gmail

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Oct 18, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm no poet and I haven't seen anything similar to this yet...

’Twas the night before the World Series and all through the stadium, not a player was stirring except for Mark Rzepczynski. The balls and gloves were hung by the lockers with care, with hopes the rally squirrel would bring wins to share….

Anyone care to make this better for me?

2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!

by mtzxc on Oct 18, 2011 8:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

"THAT'S A WINNER!!"

"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man

by threadkiller on Oct 18, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

The old posts are still there, guys.

They just don’t seem to be searchable. Hopefully this isn’t permanent or all hope is lost.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

reply better, asshole.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

fang, everyone!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

do me a favor and just don't reply to my posts anymore.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright boys that's enough

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

touchy.

and still not listening.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not interested in listening to you.

it’s a simple request. really.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, fine.

but I reply fast to anyone — I don’t necessarily look at their screenname. whatever gets put out there gets replied to. this being a public forum and everything.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's okay, Y2S, you can still reply to mine.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

you really ARE a masochist

impressive

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

you oughta see me in real life

this is nothing

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this serious?

is there some feud here of which i was previously unaware?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't look at me

I reply to everyone the same way

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sort of ducks the question.

i’m just confused because fang seems serious.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i obviously won't presume to speak for fang

for myself, as I said, I reply to whatever’s there. if I’m inconsistent, i’m one of the few posters with no small sample sizes, y’all can judge for yourselves. if he does not want that, then alright. if the mods don’t come to me with anything, then alright.

my feud with entropy is far more concerning to me.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

humblebrag
if I’m inconsistent, i’m one of the few posters with no small sample sizes, y’all can judge for yourselves.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not exactly proud of it.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know, i'm just grinding your sprockets

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a family blog

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's nice

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

do i really make myself look like an ass, or do you guys just like to rib me for every little detail? no seriously, honest input would be nice.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 18, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

well that time was completely intentional.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

or that correcting someone's grammar with additional bad grammar is also incredibly douching?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

AW. douchey

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 18, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine.

please correct your subjunctive.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

URRITE

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reports that Red Sox players drank beer in the dugout proved false.

New reports from team sources indicate that it wasn’t actually beer — it was Bud Light.

(I’ll be here all night, remember to tip your waitresses)

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

heh.

A week ago last Sunday was my best friend’s 40th birthday party. We had it at a winery that just happened to have Shiner Blonde.
So I get one cuz I like it. One of my older nephews was there with his wife and they both looked at me like I was nuts. All this was while my nephew was drinking a Bud Lite. I just shook my head and laughed, what else can you do?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

ding ding ding

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

zombie birds!!!

i like it. who dunnit?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i want to go to there

please print in 27×41 and charge me whatever

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure there are many conflicted blondes involved, though.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

GAW

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

noooo, we don't want to invoke him...

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

STAB!

one of my all time favorite memes.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

one of the few that i had a small part

in fostering. and then he never was very good.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

almost pure awesome

they needed to change that signature from alfred hitchcock to tony larussa

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

6-3-5!

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Washington Post
"Holliday’s the biggest human being I’ve ever seen," the Rangers’ Ian Kinsler said. "He’s humongous. And you’ve got Pujols right in front of those guys."

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

tremendous!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, seems like a keeper

thank you, google search for “giant lego”

by Pegasus on Oct 18, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's landed here before

i like confirmation from field level that Matt is indeed that huge, setting aside camera tricks and views from a distance

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

green. come again, please

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if you don't put anything in the fridge which leaps out.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember my parents used to have some nasty leftovers lurking in the back of the fridge

that I would have to dispose of. worst chore ever.

luckily I don’t have any leftovers. I’ll report if I find anything interesting though.

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if you fill it with beer

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Oct 18, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

it establishes a reciprocal baseline

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Oct 18, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

I’ll fill with beer for the weekend

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there any chance

this one will work out?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

CFIC is the one with the scary roommates?

I’ve forgotten.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh i don't know.

i thought so?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay.

so yes.

oh, did you hear about the search?!

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I discovered it on my own a few days ago and hoped it was a glitch

The old posts still exist, so I’ve got my fingers crossed

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of the craigslist killing and SBN searches

The origin of that is here. It’s cropped up a few other times, but this is the genesis. Also, CFIC is a good sport and I like him all the better for that.
Getting around the search issues is tricky.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohhh, right.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

he went to the school of the art institute of chicago

and plays drums to his own animations. so probably yes.

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The HBO documentary on Curt Flood was both fascinating and sad.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 18, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. what a story. and everything leading up to it.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

News update

Ryan Howard is from St. Louis.
Also, the Cardinals won the NLDS.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

LoMoGoHoRo

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

B-Ref lists Matt Holliday's nickname as Big Daddy.

I’m sure this has been reported before, but I happen to be looking at it right now.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

beats “Angel Face”

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Oct 18, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hollidy gave an interview in September that clarified this abomination

“That’s not really my nickname. Clint Hurdle used to call me that, but it didn’t really catch on… so I only hear that about every now and then when I see Clint.”
interview here

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

clank comin' in with the research

ba-bam

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He took grounders at third,

then they told him to go back to the outfield.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt says Theriot doesn't work out much

once in the first half, once in the second half. Heh, heh, heh.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLBN spending too long on NLCS Game 1?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh. Whatever.

And now, disgusted Marcum

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

marcum.

i will be eternally grateful to that man.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 18, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB columnist talking about how WS needs magic. there better be magic!

oookay.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Albert.

Yadi may have some Elven goin’.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine that went to game 6

just told me after the Pujols/Braun play at first, the Brewer fan behind him said, “I hope they shoot Pujols like they shoot a horse” Overall he said Brewers fans are the worst he’s seen in any park…and he averages 5 games a year at Wrigley.

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

there's no way to tell if they're fairweathers, though.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

True.

But if the team continues to have success, fairweathers can turn into the new normal.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. doesn't bode well.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats true

I think the worst thing I ever heard at a ballpark was right after AnKiel ran into the OF wall trying to make a catch in 09. There were a few minutes of silence over the ballpark and then some idiot Philly fan a few sections over yelled out, “You suck Ankiel! Go use some more HGH!” as he’s still lying there on the warning track with trainers and the team all around him. Phillie fans, classy as always, even on the road.

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

They really do dislike StL

Because of 1982. But I’ve been there twice wearing Cardinal gear and had nothing more than good-natured hassle directed at me. And I cheer loud.

Play ball!

by IL and StL Fan on Oct 18, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

girlfriendup and family are brewers fans

and pretty well behaved. I’ve been to miller park once or twice and it was definitely a better experience than wrigley or fenway.

by DanUpBaby on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

danup is dating the enemy!

=P

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 19, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

they aren't the enemy after you beaten them

Now they are one of the colonies.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 19, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

The guys behind me at Busch for game 5 were ordering a hooker during the game.

So, you know… Judging a fan base by a fan or four normally isn’t a great idea.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 19, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. condensed game just showed Greinke bouncing the ball off his chest

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 18, 2011 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Game highlights, that is.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 18, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

the .gif exists.

It’s amusing.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Betanwicket.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Game 6 highlights now.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sorta liveblogging MLBN

or randomly commenting.

It’s a 50/50 proposition.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

keep fighting the good fight.

i’m going to go eat some candy.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Block those metaphors! Block those mixed metaphors! Block those puns!

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 18, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm wondering how inebriated he was.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I shouldn't talk, though, i'm really liable to blog like that

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

he said "offence"

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should apologise for that.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even inebriated, your filters would work better than that, I'll warrant.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 18, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehe

now wait a minute, where are you getting all those right handed batters?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 18, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Mark Patterson

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang

by EinFesteBusch on Oct 19, 2011 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

1365 comments

my computer hurts

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 18, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

How many people actually were able to read everything?

Comments were flying.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

[raises hand meekly]

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

People, not SBN servers.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

how dare you call me an SBN

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

servers will just go down.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think SBN's been around long enough to know they need extra hamsters for traffic spikes

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we stop now, though, TBender will be left alone.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check your warranty.

VEB is specifically exempted.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

what did you think of that song I put up for you earlier?

I figured it would help you forget about that crappy song that azru quoted.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just listening now.

I recognize the chorus so I’ve heard it before.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wife heard the last half

and wanted the link. Says we heard it at the TRF or Durty Nelly’s on the Riverwalk.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured you probably had heard it before.

A buddy of mine gets hammered and will just start belting it out in the middle of a bar. he usually gets a free beer out of it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG

The Hairston double error.

STOP THAT BALL RICKIE WEEKS!

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I still feel disbelief about his effort there.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

my wife was open-mouthed over that.

she kept looking at the screen and then at me. ‘I can’t believe I just saw that’

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

"oh the humanity"

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you feel about Boones?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, I laughed harder when there were two Pirates out at third.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

this one stands out in my memory

especially Yadi’s reaction

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

and... Boog.

sniff.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet it's in d-dee's massive year-end multipost.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's mentioned, but no link

Searching MLB’s site tells me that a video clip was not made (hence the lack of link)

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? I've seen it on MLB though.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there a date?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm trying to open an overflow, so hang on

but you might be able to find it by searching the date → more from game → clip

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what I did

but nothing.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh snap! I found it

d-dee had the incorrect date.
heh, Pirates.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that now

god that was hilarious.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

woooooooo

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

well in context

Yadi was so happy because he got caught on it previously. they explained the rule to him, and so he knew for sure.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's reassuring that the ump knew the rule

he gives the low-key call for McCutchen, and then when LaRoche wanders off he gives the big theatrical call.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it ends with

#HAPPYFLIGHT.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Just watching this path to the WS thing on DVR

We were down 4-0 to Cliff Lee in game 2 after losing game 1 in a 5 game series. Unreal.

by Wombat x on Oct 18, 2011 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

...

JohnMarecek John Marecek RT by StLHugo

Great Wainwright line: “I told someone that it’s nice to know that next year I only have to go five, with the bullpen going four,” #stlcards

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

i love Waino

he’s got to really be restless not getting a shot at it this year
he’s still in there and is chief cheerleader

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, that's not fair Theo. Jed's gone. gone! you can't take him from the Padres. ship, sailed.

this is CPR, not Frankenstein’s monster.

/reading headlines only.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

oh man

i just increased the water pressure in my shower about 50 fold

it slowly gotten worse and worse. apparently there are holes. and calcium or something clogs the holes. so poked the holes and now it’s way better than it’s ever been

every day of my life was like that episode of seinfeld where they installed low flow shower heads

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh my gosh, I did the same thing for my sink

I opened the nozzle and wiped all the gunk and rocks out, and then it was like a waterfall

I love increasing my quality of life without paying or spending more than 15 minutes

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 18, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

like i'm seriously considering going to bed right now

just so that it can be tomorrow sooner and i can shower.

also, my minimum shower time is greatly reduced since rinsing my hair will take about 5 minutes less time

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

shower pressure is

probably in my top 10—hell, 5—concerns when looking at new apartments. Yes, I ask about it and turn the shower on. I basically want it shredding the skin off me.

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 18, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll concur with that

but when i moved here, i wasn’t in a financial position to be picky

things like this are why i’m in such a hurry to graduate

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

shredding?

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

he looks like a bull fighter or flamenco dancer

Ole, motherfuckers!

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

you could also get some CLR and clean it off

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude.

Let them revel in their moments. Don’t give up the secrets that quickly.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little life lessons like this are pretty great.

You feel like you’ve just discovered electricity or something when you work something like that out on your own.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

just don't ask VEB when to call 911

or to babysit.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I know.

I just can’t help but want to make life a little easier on people. it’s in my DNA.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You gotta douche it

soak the showerhead in some vinegar overnight

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 19, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

but seriously, winter sucks

i’ve got that winter feeling right now. i think i would be content if it were somewhere between 85 and 105 all the time.

by prophetjohn on Oct 18, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I love fall, for sure.

Probably doing the river road trip this weekend.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drive from Alton, through Elsah,

Grafton, around Marquette state park, across the ferry into Brussels, around Calhoun, and across the other ferry into St. Charles.

Do it every year.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed. I love winter.

It dropped to the low 20s, high teens for a few days last winter and those were my favorite days of the year.
I normally like it between 35-70

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

gah

you’re making me miss St. Louis. Winter back home was like hanging out with a kinda edgy character in a divey bar; you wouldn’t want to spend too much time around him, but it feels bold and exciting for a little while.

Winter in Boston is a guy with a bat who takes you out at the knees and then stands over you, screaming at you to put your teeth on the curb. And this somehow continues for 4 f’ing months.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh. My brother and his wife lived in Boston while she was finishing her degree at BU

I heard terrible, terrible things.
I live in Austin and winters are disappointing here

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

MADISON FTW! WOOOOO!

Lots of snow. Cold, but not painful temperatures. Competent road crews and drivers. Stunning frozen lakes to stare at and play broomball on.

by a fink on Oct 18, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

try Maine

it’s like Boston, except with an extra month

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

although, i'm fairly sure RiverRat has us all beat.

last i remember it was snowing outside for him, i think that was in June

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife's from Maine and she says the winters are worse out here.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

well, i was in StL in February and there was about 3 feet of snow back home, while I was wearing shorts. but maybe it was a off weekend.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

for her, it's the fact that it's so open out here

and the wind. Apparently there’s no wind in Maine.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends on where you are, i'm sure

but i feel that- bone chilling wind in the middle of winter is the WORST.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

what town are you in out there?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

just moved out of Maine, actually

but I was in Lewiston for the past 4 years.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh. my wife used to live there.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

small world.

I went to Bates College.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll have to ask her about it.

Since you’ve been there, is Gifford’s the best ice cream on the planet? she swears up and down that it is. I say that it’s okay.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do like Gifford's

but i would hardly say it’s the best in the world. on the other hand, i was born in Connecticut, and my Maine-born friends would say the same thing about Gifford’s. Mainers seem to have a lot of pride in their stuff- and I can’t judge that!

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did it feel to be from away?

that just cracks me up when we go back there. Somebody asks where I’m from, so I tell them, and they just say ‘Oh, so you’re from away?‘. And it doesn’t matter where you’re from or how long you’ve lived there.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

i spent the majority of my time at college-student friendly places, and Bates, while it does get 25% or so of its kids from Maine, draws pretty heavily on the rest of New England and elsewhere.

i’ve also been spending some portion of my summer in the middle of nowhere all the way upstate in Maine for my entire life, so I’ve got a handle on the Mainers…

but yes, it’s amusing. they are funny people.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fucking hate winter.

Despise it with a white hot hate of a 1000 suns. if I wanted to be cold I’d move to Alaska.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm with you

the only useful thing about winter is that my basement gets cold enough to ferment beer.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 18, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

man oh man

I don’t understand all of this cold hate.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 18, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm cool with cold

it’s the darkness which I do not appreciate.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

One year we drove up to visit during Christmas.

Left Houston: 53 deg.
Arrived in Metropolis, IL: -7 deg.

Hate.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Next morning woke up to Weather Channel showing 2 foot of snow in Corpus.)

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I drove up to Waukegan with my nephew one Christmas so he could see his dad.

it was almost the same thing. Got out in Kankakee to fill up and got met with a 35 mph wind. HFS was that a rude awakening.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like the cold

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's from Connecticut.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like winter sports, and ice skating, and fires

and lots of cold weather stuff

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

whereabouts in CT?

that was my stomping ground before I continued my northeastward migration up to Boston

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

New Haven area

trying to migrate toward Boston myself.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh, we almost certainly have some mutual acquaintances

I ran an office in New Haven for several summers that employed a bunch of local folks about your age. Small-ish world.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

wanna get me a job?

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

:P

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

but shit, what a thread for this small world!

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, depending on the how crappy of a job you want

since “pretty crappy” would describe the only ones I have the power to point people to. In any event, it is apparently your day for random overlaps with VEBers.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

try working in it everyday

you’ll learn to hate it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind cold

but I HATE ICE. Fuck ice. Snow, okay. Ice, AHHH.

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 18, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This. This. This.

Sorry Freese.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 18, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

of all the things that fall from the sky onto me

freezing rain is the only one that doesn’t evoke the slightest bit of positive feeling

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 18, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

a gem, late in the life of the thread!

this will get much less attention than it deserves, but have a rec.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 18, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's at 5 and may get greened yet.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wee! Possibly my first green ever.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 18, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

because none of you have to deal with it on a daily basis.....

Ooooh I love the winter. Fuck that, it’s below freezing right now. The high might get to 45 today, and it’s not even winter yet.

Gah….I need to move south.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 19, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

75-100 range is good for me

especially down on the river in an aluminum cook stove slamming brewdogs

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 18, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

every time I see that Hornsby quote about winter, I nod my head

I can deal with the cold, within reason, but it’s the fucking snow & ice that piss me off….

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 18, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

this. Although, I really hate cold.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 18, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

OVERFLOW

jump into the late night
sorry it’s so late

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Game #1 Lineup

Looking to run my final simulation of Game #1 of the World Series and wanted to get feedback from you guys on the most likely lineup that the Cardinals put out (including position played). Here is what I currently have. The most important thing is getting the right nine guys. Thanks in advance!

Rafael Furcal 6
Allen Craig 8
Albert Pujols 3
Lance Berkman 9
Matt Holliday 7
David Freese 5
Yadier Molina 2
Ryan Theriot 4
Chris Carpenter 1

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2011 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

And hitting 7th or 8th?

With Freese 2nd?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

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by TBender on Oct 19, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm scared it will be Theriot second, actually.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah probably correct.

NB agrees below.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 19, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

there's no way Craig is playing center

I mean, anything’s possible with TLR but all of our CFs are lefties. I think it’ll be this….

Furcal 6
Theriot 4
Pujols 3
Berkman 9
Holliday 7
Freese 5
Yadi 2
Jay 8
Carp 1

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 19, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that

unless Holliday and Berkman flip.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about that

it went Holliday/Berkman almost all the time during the reg. season. But then Holliday had the hand issues at the very end of the season and when he came back, Tony was going Berkman/Holliday.

I think Berk 4th/Lego 5th gives Tony some flexibility against lefty relievers (forget the guy’s name now, not Oliver).

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 19, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

i think you’re probably right.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Gonzalez?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 19, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's who I was trying to think of

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 19, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

have fun predicting the lineups when we're in Texas

here’s my best guess. As far as I know, it’s going to be Holland-Harrison-Wilson, all lefties, in Texas.

Furcal 6
Craig 9
Pujols 3
Berkman DH
Holliday 7
Freese 5
Molina 2
Theriot 4
Jay 8

You’d expect Schumaker is going to sit in those games. I have no idea what he’s going to do with Punto. The likelihood of the lineup being the same for all 3 of those games is very close to nil, I’d imagine….I could see Berkman getting a start in right, Craig in left, and Holliday at DH for one game, for example.

Tony is going to have a field day with these lineups. NL teams do not usually have a guy with a bat like Craig’s hanging around on the bench.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 19, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

goodness.

that lineup is disgusting. Jon Jay is a pretty fucking good #9 hitter.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

...
Furcal 6
Craig 9
Pujols 3
Berkman DH
Holliday 7
Freese 5

that’s gotta be up there with the 1-6’s in baseball.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

That #7 ain't bad either.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 19, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

that too

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

especially when he's had a career year at the plate.

if Texas was pitching Lewis at home, I’m pretty sure Schumaker would be playing 2nd, but it should be Punto.

I don’t know about y’all but having three switch hitters in one lineup is fucking cool.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 19, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Herzog agrees...

S Coleman
S McGee
S Herr
R Clark
L Van Slyke
S Pendleton
L Porter
S Smith

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski

It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron

by TBender on Oct 19, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those were the days !

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 19, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

unbelievable

I forgot that the dh could actually help us

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 19, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

as long as they don't do that first swing hacking shit

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 19, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's a good hitter against LHP

as much as we all hate him, its hard to deny that

by Wombat x on Oct 19, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks d00d

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 19, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's a bias related to the probability of the home team winning by a single run, not necessarily an edge to the cards

Even when the overall probability of a win is 50% for both teams, the home team will have more games at the top of the rankings. I wrote a fanpost a while back looking at this here (unfortunately the images were hosted on my expired school webspace and are thus gone).

In this case, he says the cards do have a slight edge (53%), but it’s not easy to extract that from the rankings of specific scores.

by brackenthebox on Oct 19, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, exactly

More Cards wins pushed towards the top but it is made up for further down in the list.

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

So 40 degrees tomorrow

Ball won’t be carrying at all I wouldn’t think. Time for Carp to go game 5 NLDS on their ass.

by Wombat x on Oct 19, 2011 1:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Greetings from Phuket. Went diving yesterday. Great metaphor. Small leopard shark minding its business, and some chick wearing a pink wet suit adn flippers. . .

with a “ranger” brand name provoked the shark that lurched after her. Hilarious watching her split and probably piss herself. Thought maybe of what it’s like for Texas to imagine facing Mott in the 9th. ..

See you bright and early tomorrow in Thailand. . . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Oct 19, 2011 2:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Lotsof hyper-sensitivity in this thread

WS jitters have VEB on edge, it would seem

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 19, 2011 7:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

there are two overflows, don't be hangin' here.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 19, 2011 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

How did that sore elbow work out for you? LOL

Chris Carpenter is a gamer. He didn’t throw a curveball until his 31st pitch, instead throwing more two-seamers. Brilliant outing. Passes Bob Gibson for most postseason wins (8) in St. Louis Cardinals history. www.graymatter123.blogspot.com

by Kevin Gray on Oct 20, 2011 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

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