Will the Cardinals Be Able to Out-Slug the Rangers?
by bgh on Oct 17, 2011 7:00 AM EDT
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The lineup did it, with bats, at the plate.
There has been one constant to this 2011 season, the Cardinals' run-scoring prowess. From the early season west coast road trip on the Cards demonstrated they could score runs. They did so with a balanced offensive attack that led the National League in runs scored, batting average, on-base percentage, and slugging percentage. The club also placed last in the NL in strikeouts. In short, they were difficult for opposing pitchers to get out at all let alone via the surest way to record an out, the strikeout.
Leading the offensive charge was Lance Berkman. Through Pujols's slow start, Freese's broken hand, Holliday's injuries, Rasmus's slump, and Corey Patterson starts, there was always Berkman. He took tough PA's, walked, slugged, and homered. To behold his career resurrection was a thing of beauty--even when the club was sitting 10.5 games behind Atlanta in the Wild Card standings. While the Puma did not carry the club this series, we saw just how good the lineup around him, Pujols, and Holliday can be. The lineup's core was complemented by the production from Jon Jay, Yadier Molina, and David Freese, which created a lethal combination for the Milwaukee pitching staff.
Of course, to categorize Freese as a complement to the lineup's heart doesn't do his NLCS justice. A deserving MVP, Freese's NLCS will go into the record books as one of the league's greatest. Further padding his stats with three hits in the deciding Game 6--one of which a game-defining first inning homer that vaulted the Cardinals to an early 4-0 lead--the third baseman finished the six-game series with a batting average of .545 and thee homers, stats that would make even Jeffrey Leonard blush.
Much has been made of the Texas Rangers' imposing lineup of mashers. This is understandable and deserved. After all, Nelson Cruz bats seventh. For the 2011 season, the Rangers hit .280/.340/.460/.800 and plated 850 runs. All of this was accomplished with a lineup that featured the abomination that is the designated hitter. Part of the fun of the World Series is that silly DH rule and how each league's champion will adjust to the other league's rules regarding it. Thankfully Prince Fielder powered the NL to an All-Star Game win, giving the Cardinals home-field advantge. This means that four games, including the first two, will be DH-less (as it should be). How the Rangers adjust to the pitcher batting will be intriguing to watch.
The Cardinals did some hitting of their own this season. .273/341/.425/.766 was their line, and it is a line that includes their pitchers. Allen Craig will likely take the DH plate appearances in Texas, perhaps even batting seventh. With Tony La Russa not having to choose two of the trio of Holliday, Berkman, and Craig, the St. Louis lineup in DH form is pretty imposing in its own right.
And so we must brace ourselves. The bombardments of and by Milwaukee may have just been a warmup for a World Series that, at least on paper, has the makings of a slugfest. The questions appear to be whether the Rangers can outscore the Cardinals without a DH and whether the Cardinals can outscore the Rangers with one. It is a matchup most ironic in a season that was supposed to be defined by pitching.
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The only thing I can complain about...
…. is the fact that living in the Eastern Time Zone sucks with games that end at Midnight and a work schedule that began at 5:00 AM.
by Buckeye Redbird on Oct 17, 2011 7:22 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i was at a wedding last night and didnt get home to start the game until midnight.
Work this morning at 7. It was worth getting 4 hours of sleep.
PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE!! update - .341/.430/.621!!!!
Public Relations Officer of the Tyler Greene Fan Club.
by Stash Musial on Oct 17, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Weddings on Sundays?
You crazy, USA
2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
Bilingual Twitter
yeah.
had another one Friday night. The DVR got a workout this weekend. But still worht every second.
PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE!! update - .341/.430/.621!!!!
Public Relations Officer of the Tyler Greene Fan Club.
by Stash Musial on Oct 17, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Octavio Dotel loves his squirrel
“But the main thing is, we’re here, we’re going to the World Series. And I’m very, very excited to be in the World Series … me and my squirrel.”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 17, 2011 7:29 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
down thread
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
actual quote, per Stark
And I hope my squirrel don’t let me down.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
whoa! I did not know this. per AP.
that squirrel is not Dotel’s. A Philly fan threw it at him.
Ha. HA!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
boom
Somebody threw it to us, like making fun of us. They didn’t know that it’s our good luck; they gave us good luck to our bullpen and that’s why the bullpen has been so great lately.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Roenicke did a pretty good interview
I did not feel he was that whiny considering that they just lost. I thought he gave plenty of props to STL. He did say that all the breaks went to the Cards, but he qualified it by saying that you make the breaks by playing well.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
by totalloser on Oct 17, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought so too
I just liked the fact he gave us the prop of recognizing, kind of with awe, that “this team is hot”
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 17, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys, we are going to the world series
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 8:02 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
he bought us all tickets!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Oct 17, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I'm still worried.
But I’ve been that way since August so maybe we can do it. Also is there any merit to the idea that since neither team has seen the other’s pitching that this won’t necessarily be the slugfest we think it will be?
interesting possibility
this could be the salvation of our starting pitchers if it works out this way (which would, by extension, save the bullpen from collapsing from overwork).
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
The Rangers have seen Jackson this year.
Though I guess that’s only one start.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
And he's never the same pitcher from start to start
so, it doesn’t really matter much….
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Jackson faced Texas once this year
on May 16 – he gave up 4 earned in 5.1 with 11 hits and 3 walks – egad (but on second thought, 4 given up in 5.1 might not be too bad in this series)
Also
Is there anything wrong with Fat Albert’s hand/wrist area? just curious.
It seemed like he was spiked.
If that’s the case, then he should be OK. (knocks drum solo from Innagadadavida on wood)
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Iron Butterfly FTW
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 17, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
It looked to me like he landed on his own hand and then got a big 'ol strawberry on the forearm.
He’ll be fine.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
he just needs a little spot-welding and he'll be fine
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Gut feeling...
The Cards rotation will be vastly improved, not sure if it will be enough to beat the Rangers, but I think they go deeper into ballgames.
With all the attention (well deserved) that the bullpen has received, I think starters have something to prove.
by DisplacedCardsFan on Oct 17, 2011 8:16 AM EDT reply actions
I just want to see Carp go deep into game 1
The pen needs the rest. They will be coming in early in these WS games, to be sure. But if LCS is any indication, so will the rangers’. Their pen has been pretty amazing, too.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 17, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
We've just got to jump on them early.
We have to knock their starters out, that’s about the only way I feel confident.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
i'll agree.
rangers lineup is scary. but they’ve never seen our guys before. will take some time to adjust, and vice versa.
by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 17, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Got SRO tickets to game 6 last night
Pumped!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 17, 2011 8:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
How much did that put you back?
Also get there early so you can be one of the first in line. The best spots disappear quick and people try to take them from you if you turn your back half a second.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Too much
Thanks for the tip. How early is early? And is there a special place we need to go?
The description on the tickets say “aisle”
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 17, 2011 8:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well the 3rd base side was really good
My gf, d-dee and I lined up a bit over 1 hr before the gates would open. That got us leading the line in typically. But this is the WS
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Can we just go in whichever gate we want?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 17, 2011 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes but depending on where you want to be picking the right gate will help you get there quicker
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Last
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 17, 2011 10:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Last question
How long before gametime do the gates open?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 17, 2011 10:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Does this have all you nonbelievers and people who just couldn't get behind this team believing and caring yet?
I know nothing about the Rangers except they can hit. Well we can too. How does our pitching match up?
bollocks
let me add at least not up to my obsessions from past seasons
i’ll watch every inning & i hope they will win, but i’m just not as into the team as in years past. there’s a lot of reasons, mostly personal i won’t bore you all with. but it’s the truth
Balls
So...
I did not participate in the game thread(s). What did I miss? Looks like some of you people were trying to shamelessly up your post counts.
Oh, and WOOOOOOOOO!
azru forgot to dust his circuitry
i think i am in no shape to sum up, sorry
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
RALLY SQUIRREL!!!!! :=8D
TORTY POWER!!!!
:=8D
Go Cards Go!!!!
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O
Any opinions on Westbrook over Jackson
as the fourth starter in Texas? That place is another launching pad, and Jackson’s straight fastball is made for the Rangers’ lineup. Jackson has been awful.
by vinniefromjersey on Oct 17, 2011 8:36 AM EDT reply actions
Jackson hasn't exactly been lights out.
I’d have to give the edge to jackson but not by much. i’m terrified of him pitching (especially in Arlington) but i’m also terrified of westbrook going. It’s a dilemma. I just hope by the time it gets around to jackson/westbrook we are up 3-0
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd take jackson over westie in a possible game 7 at Busch.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 17, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd pick Westbrook over my mother
but only after she had double knee replacement.
Replace an above average pitcher who has above average stuff but has struggled in 2 of his last 3 starts,
with a below average pitcher with below average stuff who has struggled in every start since the end of July?
No, I think I’ll stick with Jackson, thanks.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 17, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'd go with lance lynn and ask him to give me 4-5 innings and hope he can keep them to 2 runs
I don’t trust Jackson or Westbrook…Lynn has pitched well and we know he can pitch 4 innings of solid ball…then go back to Carp Jaime and Loshe….damm I wish waino wasn’t hurt…its series like this we’d be able to stick carp and waino for 4 games and let jaime and loshe flip the other 2 and if it went 7 stick waino or carp again
not when he's just coming back off an oblique injury
this is not the right time to stretch Lynn or have him swinging a bat
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
He won't be swinging a bat in Arlington.
But I still don’t want to stretch him out like that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Why not have a Relief pitching start the game before our travel day?
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
That would be very larussaeccentric.
George Will would call it brilliant. Maybe it is.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
I guess it is essentially what we've done.
Every game… so, hopefully there is just a short leash on the starters… I almost attribute it to Dave Duncan more than Tony. Last night when they interviewed Tony about the Relief corps he said it was all Dave Duncan. something like, ‘I look over at Dave and when he nods his head, I nod mine and make the move… I don’t ask too many questions.’ Which also leads me to believe, Dunc deserves a lot of credit, as usual.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
I think that's a bad decision
He hasn’t started any games since June, and starting a game is far different from being asked to come in and work one or two innings. Plus, we’d lose a very good reliever for the two games before and the two games after that start, and I don’t trust Jackson in relief as he’s never done that before.
Seems like you’re finding more problems in search of a solution to a non-problem.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
And then replace Lynn
with Sanchez and Jackson for McClellan in the bullpen. That would deploy our best arms but I doubt Tony does it. He and Dunc are now using Lynn as a security blanket. Lynn is the fireman called in at times of crisis before the 9th. Without Wainwright, this is the best playoff pitching roster we can muster but I’d be shocked to see it.
Carpenter
Garcia
Lynn
Lohse
-——————————
Motte
Salas
Dotel
Sanchez
Scrabble
Boggs
Rhodes
Jackson
best possible news for a broken toe.
not, there’s really ever any good news for a — oh, hell, folks, help me out here
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 17, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
my opinion is that we should start the better pitcher, which is clearly jackson in my opinion
by prophetjohn on Oct 17, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Summing up,
it appears, and I concur, that Jackson should be on the roster over Westbrook.
Next question: Does Jackson or Lohse get the game 3 (and, thus, potential game 7) start?
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 17, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
THE ZOMBIE CARDINALS – MORE UNDEAD THAN EVER! LONG LIVE THE MAFIA!
I believe in the beer of victory. I believe they thirst for more!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Cardinals National League Pennant 2011 stuff: pics, it happened
P-D: the game
P-D: field celebration warning: contains squirrel cosplay
P-D: locker room beerkakke
yahoo gallery
Dotel and Squirrel
Freese receives his icy trophy
Freese finishes speech, teammates attack
If anyone has the quote when Winer asks Freese about ten-year-old Freese, that was pretty good. Albert’s full answer about getting spiked is terrifying and awesome. And of all things, thanks Smoltz for your immortal Wisconsin area code crack — we thought it was funny.
There’s little better about winning a pennant than the way it throws Albert Pujols back into Excited Little Kid mode.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
apaprently that foreboding Brewers security
could not secure the visiting clubhouse from fans sneaking in. so I’m hoping someone wakes from their hangover and relates their awesome story of walking upon the squishy carpet of victory.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
photo requests you might be interested in
Carp chugging in mid-question
crying Brewers girl
not a photo, but Shannon and Rooney re: beer and heaven
one you might not want to request: The Cat gets Shredded again
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
oh damn it, I pressed post
the double-error has also been gif’d.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
from prophetjohn
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
no, i saw during the end of the game
was looking for some critical analysis of her reaction.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 17, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't need to see the crying Brewers girl.
Why do you need to see a kid crying because her favorite team just got knocked out of the playoffs? Kinda lame and I thought it was lame of TBS to show her a second time.
She’s a kid.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
by Tackle Box on Oct 17, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nah, it's all right
remember the even younger crying braves kid?
by prophetjohn on Oct 17, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the braves kid was worse.
Ugh. Poor kid. I never understood what was funny about that.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 17, 2011 1:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
looked older than that, fwiw
i’m not talking about the children.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
she was like 17 minimum.
not like a five year old girl here.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
are you kidding me?
17 minimum? so that was an adult?
sorry…..she was at best a freshman in high school. looked more like a middle schooler to me.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Are you nuts?
She was at least a freshman in college. Middle School WTF?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
are you serious?
17 minimum? so that was an adult?
sorry…..she was at best a freshman in high school. looked more like a middle schooler to me.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
what say you, VEB?
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
looks like she's wearing her dads hat
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Why are you making fun of this?
Stop being a troll.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 17, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i was making my case that she was at least 17.
and this was the only picture i could find. but thanks for passing along judgments anyway.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I will take Things Fang Is Likely To Tell A Judge At Some Point for $500 alex
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
by TomCat009 on Oct 17, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 16 recs
Very Nice
I think she was crying because her boyfriend just dumped her after Salas got Braun on strikes.
IHeartIHeartBoog
gibby45 is one of the less creepy people on this blog. - IHeartBoog
If I was him I would have dumped her too, she is bad luck
she just cost the Brewers a chance at the WS!
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
if i were her, i'd have dumped him for looking like a tool
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
Can we at least admit that her taste in teams is probably not
quite as bad as her taste in boys?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
by TomCat009 on Oct 17, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
jesus.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's just stick with this one. It's funnier anyway.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
i wanted to see that choking brewers fan in the front
behind the first base dug out.
Grit != flat out sucking.
you mean the dude they kept showing on FSMW every time we played them?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I have fought FSM videos and won!
what a stupid glitch to only play one video, and then only allow access through that video’s playlist.
Interviews featuring Jason Motte attempting to hug Jay long-distance
Interviews 2
sorry these links are half-assed. the epic montage is not there, which opens with Freese requesting Laird’s AFLAC duck impression.
anyone with the live TBS stuff, and the live FSM stuff — that’s a goldmine. they’re not putting the best parts online.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
"Unable to process."
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 17, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
FSM site is such MS trash... sigh.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
found!
David Freese’s MVP interview, with the what would 10 year old David say
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The Flyover Series
How beautiful is this? But for a Cardinals fan of 50 years living in Dallas with a Rangers afflicted wife and kids, this is very complicated. Two very similar teams who must get better starting pitching. Carp will take Game 1 against C.J. Wilson (the baseball version of Tony Romo – a pretty boy with no clutch) but after than I fear for the Cards’ starters. The Rangers lineup, power, speed, versatility and defense makes them the favorite. But none of that matters when the GOBs decide to rewards you after tormenting you for 5 months of Hell. God Redbirds – there are lots of us down here.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Rangers will be tough. i actually do think they will win it.
Don’t care. This is all beyond gravy at this point, and one of my favorite seasons ever. These Crads are the NL Champs!
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 17, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Disagree! Cards in 4!!!
(knock on wood) (double knock on wood) wait… how many knocks?
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
OT
In my head, when reading, I always hear your username as “pattmagroin.”
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 17, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
This is going to be an intense series
I think there will be blowouts on both sides with a couple close games that will decide the series
by RasmustheRipper on Oct 17, 2011 8:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
What?
No baseball today? Is the season over?
Wait….The Cards are going to the World Series!?!?!?!?!?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
SBN, you rascal you.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
I wonder how ol' T Plush took the loss?
In my mind, he’s still in the Milwaukee clubhouse playing Wii baseball with a bunch of 9 year olds and posing every time he hits a home run.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
the entire twitter universe blew up with making fun of him
it may be futile to think this but i do think he fired up not only the fan base but the cardinals team as well after that game.
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope he enjoys watching the Cardinals in the postseason
now that his season is over
Watching MLBN right now,
They are hardcore saying Nyjer Morgan and the “trash talking brewers” pissed off the baseball gods hahah
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Bowa gave him hell about it last night.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Because Larry Bowa knows all about trash talking
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 17, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
heh heh heh.
i can’t imagine his mentions last night. is searched them and it was just downright ugly. and he deserves ever bit of it.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
The only thing better for myself than the Phillies winning the World Series is that the Brewers wouldn’t win the World Series. It’s just that much sweeter that the Cardinals knocked Nyjer out. He’s an immature piece of s*** average baseball player, and has now officially ruined the reputation of the only winning team he’s ever played for. If the Brewers were smart they’d trade him to the Twins and just let him rot away.
The Jruth shall be told.
your avatar is bender.
this confuses me.
there can only be one robot.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 17, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
MAN WAVING FLAG
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
THANK YOU
it confused me for so long, but i thought i was the only one
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
il rosso isn't replying because now 'e can't unsee it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you guys keep mentioning this.
i can only respond so many times before the conversation is tired. it’s a cardinal. i see how it could look like a man waving a flag, but i don’t see that without trying. i like my avatar. it has gotten compliments. i am not changing it.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
like this?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
just flag them next time
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Flags Fly Forever!!!!
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
oh, never mind.
you’re a phillies fan. welcome to our corner of the web.
victory for us as cardinals fans is much sweeter, i think, because we knocked off the brewers.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I dunno about ruining the rep of the Brewers necessarily
and TBH the series was clean, there weren’t any brawls or HBP wars. I think all that Morgan really ruined was his own rep….he tugged on Superman’s cape, and Superman lined a double over his head.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
by nota bene on Oct 17, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
House Money Baby!!!!
The TLR knows the right buttons will be all over the media this week, but I think this one has to get a head nod for Mo. With the exception of Boog(and who knows what happens behind the scenes) and Theriot as his replacement Mo did an excellent job filling the 25 man roster with guys who deserve to be on MLB rosters.
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Sorry, had to. This song's been stuck in my head for the whole postseason.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
well that sucks.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 17, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the real question is Will the Rangers be able to Out-Slug the CRADNALS?
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 17, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
density
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know what to expect in this WS
except that it seems there will be a lot of runs one way or another.
The Birds are looking like the dogs for the third series in a row… love it!
GO CARDS!!! Lots of runs… lots of pitching… whatever… just find a way to win this!
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
Berkman
Not thrilled with a lefty-heavy Texas SP rotation that will force Berkman to bat from his worse side until the Cardinals getting into the bullpen.
And even then
He’ll be seeing a steady dose of Darren Oliver I would imagine.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I guess RHB 2011 OPS vs LHB in brackets
Pujols(.946), Holliday(.883), Freese(.900), Craig(1.000), and Molina(.842) even Punto had a .800 Ops against LHP.
No offense but a team that go through Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels should be respectful of but hardly scared of CJ Wilson
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
sorry is should say the RHB will have to pick up the slack
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
You and the rest of us all know
that Punto will not start against LHP in this series, no matter how much we might want that to happen. It will not happen.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Why does Tony have to see every switch hitter as a LHB?
At least Theriot had that .768 OPS against LHB
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I'm completely fine with Theriot against those guys
Yes, we give up some defense, but he really is a solid hitter against lefties.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Punto seemed overmatched at the plate
Throwing the fastball up in the zone exposes him. Great defensively and usually clutch but against Rangers’ hard throwing lefties, he would be like a second pitcher in the lineup.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
I think he provides more value on defense than Theriot will provide with the bat.
And every defensive play in short series is magnified.
FWIW (SSS), Punto’s splits against lefties are actually better than Theriot’s this season. One hopes that TLR notices this.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
only if the sample size is small enough
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
It's pretty small
like, less than 100 PA’s I think.
As an aside, he might actually have tiny splits against these pitchers too, which would work in his favor if they are any good.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
A Reiteration on Theriot
Since the ASB, the Cardinals are 9-20 when Theriot starts and 38-12 when he doesn’t.
by DeWitt4Torty on Oct 17, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
In terms of being overmatched
I suppose Theriot striking out on a 87 mph fastball in his eyes isn’t “overmatched”?
I think they are equally inept offensively, and when that’s the case, I’d rather go with the excellent defender.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Punto, sigh
I agree with all of you — I’d rather have Punto’s defense. But Tony will be Tony…
Maybe this is less of a consideration in the era of interleague play, but wouldn’t you also have to consider that Punto has spent the majority of his career in the AL when making this choice? He’s probably more familiar w/the Rangers’ staff than Theriot. B-R shows he has a stat line of .250/.400/.393/.793 from 2001-2011 against current Rangers pitchers. (SSS warning — this is 35 plate appearances.) Theriot is .211/.250/.263/.513 in 21 PAs, for what it’s worth.
Don't get me wrong.
I am not a Theriot fan. Truth is, we are overmatched at 2nd (Kinsler is very good) whoever plays the position for us. But, we were overmatched with Utley too. At the end of the day, having a good defender at second (Punto or even Descalso) might be the best play.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Agreed
At the end of the day, having a good defender at second (Punto or even Descalso) might be the best play.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
This is why I think Punto should play.
I don’t think Theriot is that much better with the bat than Punto to make up for how much better Punto is with the glove than Theriot.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
mo says on mckernan's show this morning...
very likely skip is on ws roster. this argument may be moot.
by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 17, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
how does Skip help against lefties?
Would he even play?
Although, if he’s just replacing McClellan, I suppose it doesn’t really matter.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
why would skip be on the roster
why do we need a 3rd second basemen who wouldn’t play against the lefties anyway? if he takes KMac’s spot that means no sanchez, we need as many relievers as we can get
I'm less worried about their bats than I am about their arms.
We’re going to see three LHP in the first four games of this series and they’re the type of pitchers that our club has struggled with in the past. Lewis is more of a power pitcher type (in the Cliff Lee mold) but the other two are pretty similar to the Randy Wolf-types that have shut us down.
Not to mention, it turns Furcal and Berkman around to the side of the plate where they aren’t as effective and basically puts Ryan Theriot at second base for the majority of the series, which weakens us defensively.
I think the our pitchers might have more success in this series. The Rangers really only have 4 left handed bats, and none of them are much better than average. Moreland won’t play much in this series, Murphy will probably start in LF for the majority of the series, and Chavez will be a defensive replacement in CF/pinch hitter. I think this is a big advantage for our bullpen, which is loaded with pitchers who have ROOGY-esque splits. Rzep and Rhodes should sit down at the video board and figure out how to get Josh Hamilton out, as he’ll be the one guy that they’ll face in this series.
Everyone is predicting a total slugfest, and rightfully so, but I think there will be a at least 3 games in which the winning team scores 4 runs or less. I think the bullpens factor heavily in this series, and considering how good both bullpens are, that’s going to keep scoring down considerably more than people think.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 17, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Theriot
Ugh.
If games 1 and 2 were in Texas, you wonder whether LaRussa would keep Punto in there with the DH in play.
by olddomination on Oct 17, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
No
Because he plays splits. Punto will start against Lewis and be available off the bench, but he might only get one start in the whole series. Which sucks, because we’ve been pretty good when he’s in the lineup.
Not to mention — when there’s a man on third and less than two out, Punto has proven that he can get the runner home by playing fundamental baseball. Theriot hasn’t demonstrated that.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I understand the Punto love because of his defense
At the same time the guy did just go 0-4 with the golden sombrero last night. I don’t know how much he would be able to do at the plate against the 3 lefties.
He did have an RBI on a sac fly to right field
He did make some excellent plays at 2B. He turns the double play better than any of the other second baseman that we have. He takes good AB’s and has good plate discipline.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Good analysis
but the Rangers’ lefties are not like Randy Wolf. All three – Wilson, Harrison and Holland – can throw heat and while Wilson and Holland have sucked in the post-season, both can really bring it. I fear Lewis, who is a crafty RHP and can throw inside and move the ball around. The Cards can hit fastballs and the Rangers’ lefties have struggled with their command of the heater.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
While they don't rely on lots and lots of breaking stuff
Harrison and Holland really mix it up and change speeds effectively. Harrison has three effective pitches and mixes up his fastball between a two and four seamer. Holland is essentially a fastball/changeup pitcher, but his change-up can be a devastating pitch when he’s throwing well. They throw harder than Wolf does, but they mostly use the fastball to get ahead and then rely on offspeed stuff to get hitters out, which is very similar, tactically, to guys like Wolf and Wandy who have always given us trouble.
I agree on Wilson — he’s your prototypical lefty power pitcher, and also seems to be their bizarro version of Adam Wainwright. Nothing like wasting 4 years of quality cost-controlled starter by maligning him to the bullpen…
One thing that I do think favors Cardinal hitters is that the Texas pitchers like to work ahead in the count and our hitters are aggressive. Which means that there should be plenty of first and second pitch fastballs to work with in this series
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 17, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and this is why i read VEB comments
good stuff, fourstick
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 17, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed.
I always read fourstick’s stuff…
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Lewis is a good pitcher on the road
he just can’t keep the ball in the park to save his life in Arlington. They SHOULD start him game 2 but I have not seen anything definitive on if they will.
by the way this analysis on holland is not at all accurate
he throws his changeup 10% of the time and it is his worst pitch according to fangraphs. harrison and holland are really nothing like wolf at all
Josh Hamilton isn't much better than average?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 17, 2011 10:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was referring to the other left handed bats that they have.
Murphy, Moreland, Chavez, and Borbon.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
OIC
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 17, 2011 11:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mizzou Homecoming + Cardinals NLCS victory = Sheckie a tired lad.
These past two weeks have been so much fun. Let’s keep it going for another! Happy flight!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Let's not talk about Mizzou homecoming
Because as an ISU fan, that was fucking depressing.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
well, the only way it was really available in Columbia was PPV.
which was ridiculous. I was at a bar, watching it stream online…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Big XII Media Rights working for YOU!
Is it any wonder teams are leaving this conference in droves?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
also fucking depressing: being an ISU fan.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Says the guy that roots for the Rams
How many wins ya got there buddy?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
says the guy who roots for the vikings
how many super bowl wins ’ya go there, buddy?
how many bowl games ’ya got there, buddy?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
What college do you go to?
Oh, right, one that doesn’t have D-1 sports teams.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
don't see relevance.
or care, for that matter. adopt a D1 team.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I went to ISU, therefore am an ISU fan.
Nearly half of my mom’s side of the family went there as well. So it’s a tradition to root for them regardless of how bad they are.
You, however, instead of rooting for the team where you go to college, instead choose to root for the other team in the state. This makes you resemble a Hawkeye fan, where 80% of the fanbase has never set foot in a classroom in Iowa City.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
well of course i root for the team where i go to college.
they’re just on a different level of competition (and horrible, but that’s another story).
so your logic states that because i don’t attend a D1 school, i’m not allowed to root for any D1 school. seems fair.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I patently don't have much choice in being in ISU fan, I was one pretty much from birth, lol.
You have a multitude of choices in terms of rooting for an NFL team.
Also, good luck to Mizzou being the second Vanderbilt of the SEC for the next 10 years.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I patently don’t have much choice in being in ISU fan, I was one pretty much from birth, lol.
the same applies to me and the rams (well, since i remember. i’m aware the rams weren’t in saint louis when i was born). my best friend’s parents have season tickets to the rams, my father is a huge rams fan, and i’ve been to several games. besides the fact that they are from saint louis. and, you know, won a fucking super bowl when i was nine years old. i was hooked, and i’m not about to abandon a team i love because they’ve been incompetent for so long.
and your comparison on mizzou is unfair. teams mizzou is currently better than:
vandy
kentucky
ole miss
miss state
tennessee
georgia
teams they’re at least on par with:
a&m
arkansas
south carolina (usually)
florida, lsu, auburn, alabama are all clearly better and have better overall programs, but those are some of the top programs in the country. mizzou won’t have the success they did in the big 12 and will be a mid-level team in the SEC, but to call them the “second vandy” is just ignorant.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You really think that Mizzou has a better football program than
Tennessee and Georgia? You are out of your mind. Pretty much no point in continuing this discussion if that’s what you think.
I don’t think they are on par with South Carolina or Arkansas either — both those programs are clearly better at this point then Missouri is.
Just go look at the recruiting classes for A&M, Arkansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, and even Ole Miss and Mississippi State the last couple of seasons. All those teams are compiling more talent than Mizzou — the reason they don’t win as many games is because they have to play IN THE SEC where there are 5-7 programs in the top 20 every year. The competition is much more fierce there than in the Big XII North where you get to play ISU, Kansas, and K-State every year.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
not sure if you noticed, but mizzou has 40 wins in four seasons.
and yes, they could beat tennessee and georgia right now. ole miss and miss state. and have a shot at south carolina and arkansas.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you think Mizzou would perform in the SEC,
if the school joins it?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
lots and lots of 7-5/8-4 type seasons.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Saved.
I will be sure to re-print this in 5 years. I think it’s going to make you look pretty foolish.
They will have some success in basketball, though, mostly because the Mizzou basketball program already resembles the SEC program that it was modeled on: recruit JUCO and non-qualifier talent, make sure they leave after three years, nobody graduates.
That SEC program, obviously, is Arkansas.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
or because it's been successful in the much superior big 12?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That's debatable
Florida, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Arkansas have all had pretty good basketball programs over the last decade. Probably on par or better than the likes of Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, and Mizzou.
My point is that since they already recruit like the SEC schools recruit, they will have a better shot at competing, one, and two, you only need two great recruits to make yourself a top 25 basketball team, you need many more than that to create a top 25 football team, as well as some luck with depth, injuries, and etc.
If you think that Missouri is in the top tier of the SEC in football, you’re liable to get laughed out of the conference.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i already admitted that is not going to be the case.
i have to go to class, but i’ll draw out what i think is realistic for mizzou when i get back.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if you noticed
But all those players are in the NFL right now. And have been replaced by players who, um, aren’t as good as those players.
See, you seem to be arguing that your PROGRAM is better by telling me how good you TEAM has been in the last 4 years.
I’m telling you that the programs you say you’re better than have historically been WAY better than yours and are in the midst a few down seasons due to coaching turmoil (Arkansas, Tennessee, Ole Miss) or lots of players leaving early (Georgia). Similarly, South Carolina has won more games against top 25 opponents than Missouri has over the past 4 years and Steve Spurrier coaches there — they have top 20 recruiting classes each of the last two seasons.
There’s a big difference between having a great football program (Oklahoma) and having some great football teams (Texas Tech, Mizzou, Kansas)
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
except that mizzou's program is changing.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
So was Kansas’ program. And Texas Tech’s. And Oklahoma State’s is changing too, except the SEC didn’t want those guys — their entire AD is dependent upon funding from one rich oil guy.
Northwestern’s program was “changing” in the late ’90’s and Purdue’s was “changing” under Joe Tiller….until it wasn’t anymore. Wisconsin’s program is the only one I can think of that’s radically changed it’s fortunes and sustained it for over a decade, and that may have more to do with Barry Alvarez stepping aside when he did and allowing Bielema in the door, while still remaining involved as an ambassador to the program. Gary Pinkel ain’t Barry Alvarez.
And that’s the point: There aren’t any easy games in the SEC because everyone has enough talent to beat anyone else should they not show up for a week or so. It’s hard to build and change a program when you’re getting waxed every other weekend by teams who are really good and struggling to beat the teams you would consider yourselves “on par” or “better than” week to week.
When you’re Tennessee (or Michigan, or USC, or even Notre Dame), you can make a couple of bad coaching decisions and survive because your program has a national profile. Once you get the right coach, the recruits come flying in because you have rich tradition and a huge fanbase (and rich boosters….) Notre Dame, who is on their 5th coach since Lou Holtz I think, still is able to get four and five star players BECAUSE THEY’RE FUCKING NOTRE DAME.
You can’t walk into some kids house and convince him to come to Missouri because you’re MISSOURI. But the coaches at Georgia and Tennesee can absolutely do that.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i'm convinced you have
a ton of time on your hands.
ncaa football, damn.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 17, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do,
but I also live in a state where this has been the pre-eminent talk on sports talk radio lately because we have no pro teams of any kind in the entire state. So I get to hear all this bullshit about how great MIssouri’s “program” is when they’ve been within four different missed FG’s of not winning their own division of the conference. A division which, I might add, has been rated the worst division in a BCS conference a number of times over the last decade.
And they’re talking like they’re just going to go crush some SEC football teams and steamroll into the top half of that conference just, like, that.
So I feel compelled to point out that Chase Daniel and Blaine Gabbart don’t play there anymore and that the current coach is also the same coach who didn’t have a single 8 win season when Brad Smith was breaking NCAA records as his QB FOR FOUR YEARS.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I root for CSU Rams L 63-13 to Boise State on Saturday :(
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
The 63 thing is nowhere near as painful as the 13
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
St. Louis, Colorado State, Fordham, Mt. Vernon, Glenbard East.
It’s tough being a Rams football fan…..
(for the record, I have no idea how good Fordham’s football team is…..)
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
An old priest I knew growing up played for Fordham on the same team as
Vince Lombardi I don’t think they have been very good since
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In 1964 (I was at Maplewood HS) my father wearied of me moaning over the Post and Globe reports of the Cards’ demise as the Phillies streaked away toward an inevitable pennant. Dad promised if I stopped reading the papers, and ceased wailing about Musial’s retirement, the Cards would beat the Phils and reach the Series. I’ve done repeat penance by staying off this forum since late August in hopes of a Second Coming. It worked, pop, 47 years since your promise. Wherever you are, I owe you yet another one. I owe you another one again!
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by akaitori on Oct 17, 2011 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 29 recs
this should be green.
and so, it will be.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 17, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, it was tough to stay away. Miss the wit, and sardonic wisdom.
Four more to go!!
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Let us be underdogs!
also who did Steve Berthiaume pick? Was it the Astros?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Full list not up yet
I’m also curious to see
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 17, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
not a sure thing
no one picking Texas in 3
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
always in 6 or 6. always always always.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Rangers in 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
let's perpetuate this story.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 17, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
LSB is just absolutely certain theyr're going to win this in a walk.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody tell him
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I agree on the East Coast Time Thing
But, it is a good tired. Two thoughts: first, Berk hit the ball hard the last few games and got almost zero for it. Line drives all over the field just right at ‘em. He’ll be fine in the Series.
Second, what roster moves can / will the birds make. K-Mac is clearly done. Add Westy or Sanchez? I think the position players are set.
IHeartIHeartBoog
gibby45 is one of the less creepy people on this blog. - IHeartBoog
Please let it be Sanchez
Can you imagine the homer fest in Arlington if K-Mac or Westbrook are pitching. It will look like a video game.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Out of sympathy for the East Coast wake ups. Afternoon games start at 2:00 or 3:00 a.m. here. Just about the time the floods are cresting. . .
Hanging tough in Bangkok!
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HL Mencken
stay dry, my friend.
Y’ all have been hit with something fierce. Be a fireman when the flood waters roll back.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 17, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Shoring up the dykes and dams. . . . and wishing that the Redbirds fly high and keep their powder dry.
Will be following each game no matter what time . .. stretch and yawn and call in sick to work. . .
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HL Mencken
Roster moves
I assume they bring Schumaker back, though I’m not sure they should. Would like to see them add Sanchez to the pen, but I doubt that happens.
It looks like there will again be a 12-man pitching staff.
Whether the 12th man is K-Mac, who wasn’t used after he was shelled in Game 1, or Westbrook or Sanchez remains to be seen. Strauss inferred that the question will be Chambers or Schumaker for the World Series.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Should be Chambers
who has more utility and is healthy. Schumaker is kinda redundant, and with all the leg problems and the fact that we will face three left handed starting pitchers, isn’t much needed in this series, imo.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
If schumaker is truly healthy
he’s the better bench bat He’s been taking good PAs all postseason, while Chambers seems to need a little more seasoning before he’s ready to face top-level pitching. Chambers has late-game defensive value, but he’ll also be less needed with Craig (presumably) in the outfield.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Leg injuries take more than 10 days to heal
and if he’s on the bench, then he’s probably going to get some time in the outfield this series. We’re already carrying 12 pitchers, so we can ill afford to take Schumaker and then have him come up lame while running out a ground ball in Game 2, thus shortening the bench considerably for the rest of the series.
Chambers has great speed, which makes him an ideal guy to have on the bench in a series like this.
You know who would make a fuck ton of sense? Tyler Greene. He kills left handed pitching and can play all three infield positions and probably CF if he absolutely had to. Great speed on the bases on case we need to pinch run late in games. But we all know that won’t happen.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
With Craig in the lineup
I hope Punto starts every game at 2B. Theriot and Skip should be minimal contributors.
TG sees as much action as he saw in the LCS me thinks. :(
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by Stash Musial on Oct 17, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Schumaker's oblique injury kept him off the NLCS roster,
but he also had a hamstring injury. If there’s any lingering questions about his healthy, I hope he is kept off the World Series roster.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
and a broken toe
according to Baby Hewey Dunc
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
was that ever clarified
because the only thing I ever saw on it was the tweet from Duncan, which read: “Westbrook and Schumaker off with broken toe and ribcage injury.” Which to me says that Schumaker has a broken toe and ribcage injury.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Oh, no
After further research, it seems that Schumaker indeed has both injuries. My apologies. Fuck you Chris Duncan for not passing high school english.
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 17, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you have to read it with a dip in to truly understand it.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
If Schu has a broken toe
this explains why he has looked so bad in the outfield his last few appearances there. Schu scares me in the outfield right now. He looks unsure of himself and lacking in the necessary speed to make up for a bad route or break on the ball. Schu is better pinch hitter than Chambers … but Chambers is clearly the better outfielder right now. That’s a tough call to make.
But Adron is also a lefty.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 17, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
FESPN
the SC morning cycle does not cover any baseball until after the half-hour mark. I’m watching handegg touchscreen crap at the moment.
would've.
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did you know the Red Sox drank beer and at fried chicken... DURING THE GAMES?!?!?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Be fair...
How much of the 1st 30 minutes was Wheldon?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
only ten.
there were then 2 or 3 other stories after it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
FESPN
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
mike and mike sounded more enthused, at least
I missed most of that segment though
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
one of those intervening stories
was about handshake dramas.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
thanks Eduardo
he mentions Albert calling time for Prince
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
then hannah says Kotsay
now I’m confused.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This will be a tough Series for me to watch
Longtime VEBer here — joined the site way back in ‘05, I think (my VEB user ID is something like 105), but haven’t commented in ages. (You get married, have kids — life gets in the way!) Still been reading VEB faithfully, though, and I have thoroughly enjoyed what this zombie Cardinals team has done. Can’t believe they’re in the Series!
I’m a born and bred, diehard Cards fan, so I’m pulling for them like crazy to win the whole damn thing, but I guess I won’t be crushed if the Rangers prove to be the better team. I spent a big chunk of my childhood in Dallas and my dad’s family is all in Texas — but my dad grew up in the pre-Astros and Rangers era and became a Cards fan thanks to KMOX, like so many other kids west of the Mississippi those days, and passed on his Cardinals passion to me. While I was growing up rooting for Whitey’s Cards in the 1980s, I also watched the Rangers play in crappy old Arlington Stadium and flail around with Bobby Valentine as manager and feature players like Pete Incaviglia, Buddy Bell, the old knuckleballer Charlie Hough as their “ace,” Oddibe McDowell, Ruben Sierra, etc. Watched guys who came up with Texas like Dave Stewart go elsewhere and become stars. Enjoyed the great autumn of Nolan Ryan’s career w/the Rangers, and then watched as some very good late-1990s Rangers teams (Pudge Rodriguez in his prime, Juan Gonzalez, the very underrated Rusty Greer, Raffy Palmeiro) always got knocked out of the playoffs by the Yankees.
I’m a big Mavericks fan too, so I was thrilled to see Dirk finally win his ring this year. And as a Cowboys fan who can’t stand Jerry Jones, I would smile just thinking about Jerry’s reaction if every major Dallas sports franchise will have won a title since the Cowboys last won a Super Bowl…
All that said, I’m pulling for the Cardinals like crazy. If Albert is fated to leave St. Louis after this season, let him leave as a champion again.
Heathen’s suggestion above to dub this “The Flyover Series” warms my heart. Suck it, East and West Coast media!
by DCRedbird on Oct 17, 2011 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It's good to see you posting against, DC.
It feels like it’s been ages since I’ve seen your D.C./Sluggerbird mash-up avatar.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Thanks bgh
I do miss the days when I’d be on the game threads - following the ride on VEB in 2006 was really fun. :)
Good post
You have captured the essence of being a Cardinals fan (and Cowboys loather) in Dallas. Go Mavs! Go Cards! Go Rangers! Beautiful WS but very very complicated for those of us who us who grew up in the West and learned to love the game through the signal of KMOX long before the Rangers were a twinkle in the Metroplex’s eye.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Man.... reading BCB game thread last night
They’re calling for their manager’s head in the first inning… the manager that led them to their second best season in the history of their club.
and only their second postseason series victory ever.
well, starting Marcum was an objectively shit decision
But then again, I guess Narveson didn’t prove any more effective against us.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
The only other option was going Gallardo on short rest
and then Wolf on short rest in Game 7 if they win. Considering how terrible the middle of their bullpen was in this series (not to mention how much we beat up on Gallardo and how terrible he is at Miller Park), that’s probably not a better decision when you think about it.
You have to come with what brought ya, and Marcum was a very good pitcher for them this series
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Having pitchers on short rest for games 6 & 7
would have been a terrible decision I think. I agree, I don’t think they had any better options than Marcum/Narveson, which just didn’t work out.
I can’t imagine calling for the manager’s head over all of it. Particularly when you get to the postseason so infrequently.
It's not his fault that Marcum completely sucked the last 3 weeks
That’s on Marcum. God forbid we blame the players for not performing. Where are all the calls for Fielder’s head after his last three games in this series? What about giving Braun a ton of shit for not being able to hit a journeyman right handed reliever? How about Corey Hart leaving tons of baserunners and going 2 for the series?
There’s plenty of blame to go around in Milwaukee, and most of it should be on the shoulders of the starting pitching staff, who couldn’t get them to the 5th inning in nearly every start.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Poor defense, too
which, again, is on the players.
How about Mat Gamel?
Hairston was probably their best player in this series though. So not sure how much Lawrie or Gamel would have helped them.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I am just glad they won't have 6 cheap years of Lawrie
but yes Hairston/McGehee vs Lawrie I know which way I am voting
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Especially since if Hairston was hitting it might have meant Yuni to bench
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Narveson threw 13 pitches and 1 pitch
in games, 4 and 5, respectively. Those outings reflected a decision to make Marcum the game 6 starter. Now, I don’t know how much wiser it would have been to throw Narveson in game 6, but his regular season numbers weren’t that far removed from Marcum’s and it was clear to everyone in Milwaukee, St. Louis, and the rest of baseball that Marcum had nothing left in this series.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Marcum pitched one inning an allowed 4 runs
Narveson threw 1.2 innings and allowed 5 runs.
Does it really make any difference which one started the game?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I think part of his point was
thar Roenicke could have opted not to pitch Narveson in games 4 and 5, and then handed him the start in game 6.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 17, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
they got there with Marcum, and it’s not like Narveson came out and dominated in Game 6 anyway. It didn’t matter who he started, as it turned out.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
the best part was that Roenicke probably had a very, very short leash on Marcum
But Freese’s 3 run bomb blew that plan to shit.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 17, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
Freese struck before Roenicke could yank Marcum. Perfect timing.
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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 17, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would have went with Narveson
based on how bad the Cards looked against Wolf. And anybody who has followed our team long term knows we suck against soft tossing lefties. Allen Craig is the lefty killer on our roster but he’s not always in the lineup against lefties (as Tony hates to bench Berkman). As you said, Narveson didn’t fair well but one can never say what would have happened if he had started. Narveson might have been calmer had he entered with a clean slate in the first inning rather than down 3 runs in the 2nd. One never knows.
and then he brought in narveson
who they wanted all along and he sucked just as bad as marcum
by prophetjohn on Oct 17, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
looking back at the series Dotel had
he ought to visit the county registrar before they leave Milwaukee and see if they’ll issue him a deed to Ryan Braun.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Oct 17, 2011 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 14 recs
"I shall call him... Señor Squirrel!"
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm still not over the sheer bizarreness of this all
We essentially won the Championship-caliber series before the Division series, and we got there because Philadelphia turned it on and have critical home-field because Brewers players turned it on.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
DENSITY
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
That's a big part of the reason I was just sitting in disbelief last night.
It’s not just that this season was improbable because of the comeback, but beating the team who handed you your ticket to the postseason, then beating the team that took your division and gave you WS HFA. Too crazy.
Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.
it's like Highlander
there can be only one….
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I don't get the fact that the brewers gave us WS HFA
The NL pitching gave world series homefield advantage. I know fielder hit a homerun but the AL only scored 1 run.
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
lol analyzing the all star game.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry , i've heard it 85 times since last night
Cardinals only have homefield because of prince fielder. Over and over again.
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
just giving you a hard time.
i really don’t care how we got home field, just the fact that we have it.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
I don’t like the format of HFA. It puts a lot of pressure on your guys to leave home 2-0. I would like it better if it was 3-3-1
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that would be better.
also, do subjunctive better.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
if only home field advantage was to be assigned in a different manner
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Bu... But, this time it matters, man!
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if only someone was cognizant of the irony of being pedantic while telling others to lighten up...
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
that might be a reply-fail
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Same.
I’d actually rather have the 2-2-1-1-1 format, even though it’d mean a bit of extra waiting day agony.
Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.
5 get-away days.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
So many Happy Flight possibilities!
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 17, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i think 2-3-2
puts more pressure on the visiting team. It’s hard to sweep 3 in a row and if you dont, you have to win 2 road games. I’ve never been a big fan of that format.
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by Stash Musial on Oct 17, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
As good as our team has been on the road
I like the 2-3-2 format for this series. If we can win the first two games that puts us in the drivers seat as we only have to win on in Arlington to get the series back home.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i agree it benefits us.
Visiting team – Texas. Home Team – STL.
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by Stash Musial on Oct 17, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the 2-3-2
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Sure, was just a contributing factor.
Just having fun with a little irony, nothing more.
Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.
this is basically how i feel.
goold called the pennant “goofy” last night.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
the number of times David Freese will be called a "kid"
just … uhm, yeah.
would've.
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Hello dear friends, I would just like to say
by DJ Jazzy Jeff Weaver on Oct 17, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 10:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And it's spectacular.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
by TBender on Oct 17, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
sooo
I’m insanely tired today….totally worth it.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 10:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I believe Ric Flair says it best...
We’re in the WORLD SERIES!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 17, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 8 recs
there are still tickets
For game seven. 215 a piece.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 10:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
how do i get those? still have to have a code?
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
My wife got an email today.
I;m not sure if there was a code. I can call her and ask, if you’d like me too.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yes please
:)
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Sorry, turns out it wasn't from the cards,
but from Ticket Liquidators overpricedtickets.com.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
awww
well thanks anyway. i haven’t bought game 7 tickets yet, i’m hoping they release some more.
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I just went to cardinals.com and went to game seven tickets. They certainly could be gone though.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 3:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i did the same thing awhile ago, said there were no tickets. damn
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ufb
how improbable
actually winning the pennant is the big deal to me
i hope it is 11 in 11, but the pennant lets me take the series a bit more lightly than i did the nlcs
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I agree with this. The pennant is the real prize.
The WS is the cherry on top of the sundae.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
lol
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
FSM is not coughing up these videos, man.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's just TLR over and over again
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't harbor any great hopes for this series
but I am on the edge of my seat about making Rangers aces take plate appearances.
I will be annoyed, though, if our newly acquired pitchers don’t take extra PFP.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I feel like lineups are pretty even.
Craig is a plus addition and can potentially improve our MIF defense if Punto gets the starts at 2B. Napoli gets to play every game.
Cruz, Hamilton, Young, Napoli, Kinsler vs. Albert, Holliday, Puma, Freese, Craig is edge Rangers. My biggest fear is their bullpen.
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by Stash Musial on Oct 17, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
what I really fear is that the veteran side of the clubhouse are so stacked with guys who didn't get shots, or got shots and couldn't close it down.
the last thing this team needs is to succumb to individual desperation, i.e. pressing. they’ve got to keep riding the wave from the young guys, who are just happy to be there. I think the extra crap that comes with the World Series has a potential to force that schism.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
The nice thing about them being Vets is that they are less likely to do this
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
a World Series ring can do that to a guy. particularly not having one.
that’s not just the marbles, that’s the whole bag.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but most of these vets have at least been there before
I firmly believe that if their had not been 8 days for the Rockies to sit and think about starting a WS in fenway that the 07 series would have been at least competitive. Ditto the Tigers young pitching staff getting the yips in 06 after a long layoff.
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
yeah, lack of layoff totally evens it out, IMO
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i mean, for both teams
I cannot compose the words
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you imagine how freaked out that whole Rockies, or even Tigers
team was? Most of them hadn’t ever even been on a winning team, then after playing almost every day since march they sit around for more than a week, more than twice the AS Break to think about playing a Word Series against one of the four or five most storied franchises in baseball? Talk about pressure, It is amazing they didn’t get no hit.
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
but that kind of "freaked out" is not what I'm talking about.
I’m talking about guys at the end of their careers, one injury away from not getting another contract, much less another big contract, on the edge of possibly losing the biggest trump card in baseball. that is an entirely different kind of pressure. in baseball-years, this team is getting on the wrong side of the line. reread my original comment.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
right but which kind of pressure is more likely to lead to pressing?
I would say more vet the better
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
anecdotally, pressing comes of trying to do too much
and be the hero in that moment. we see Albert do it all the time.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
don't you mean the fourth best hitter on the team by wRC+?
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
what does that have to do with it?
I am talking about the smallest sample sizes there is, a championship game.
dude, I understand that you’re disagreeing with me, but you’re conflating arguments from all over the map instead of addressing what I said. it makes no sense when I say “veterans are susceptible to this pressure” and your counterargument is “no, they’re not, because they’re not rookies.”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that was a joke man
My argument is that Vets are less susceptible not impervious to these pressures. The truth is that no matter what we are discussing it is all pure speculation at this point, Ryan Theriot is as likely to join Juan Uribe , Juan Pierre and David Eckstein as Albert Pujols is as WS MVP. The beauty of making the WS is that while it is a bit of a glorious crapshoot it is a glorious crapshoot that the Cards have every chance of winning, and likely in improbable fashion if they do.
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
17 straight wins on get away days?
Did I hear that correctly last night? That is crazy.
Happy Flight, indeed.
Bodes well for Game 2.
Especially with Carp going in Game 1.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
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sooo
Arthur Rhodes gets a ring regardless.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 10:37 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Ha.
And monetarily, wouldn’t he get a larger share if Texas won? Since he had more service time with them this season?
Or do they all get the same share?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Depends on how the players voted.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
oh one more thing
there’s a whiff of a suggestion that the Brewers pitchers did not challenge the Cards inside … and that was perhaps, maybe, because there was so much “bad blood” and “trash talking” before the series that the first plunk was an instant warning from the umpires.
if they had come into it with no hooks or corners for the media to sink their teeth into, maybe the umpiring crew isn’t on that hair trigger, and maybe the Brewers staff isn’t spooked to the point where the Cardinals hitters are practically standing on the line in the first inning…
I mean, if that’s in any way true? forget etiquette or tradition or whatever. that team did that to themselves.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Sounds like an excuse to me
and, not like it would have made a difference if a starter got thrown out early.
well, yeah, that's my point, though.
what if they weren’t effective because they couldn’t throw us inside as much? it’s not like it’s entirely implausible.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
well... wouldn't that effect Cardinals pitchers as well?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
*affect (not effect)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
we don't need to throw inside to beat the Brewers hitters, though.
their achilles heel is apparently throw them outside, then go right down the middle. that was the specific weakness.
not that this weakness has any grain of truth whatsoever, nope.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, I get what you're saying
I just meant your choice is “Throw inside, risk losing a starter early to ejection” or “Don’t throw inside, ineffective starter, taken out early”.
Plus, it just sounds overblown to me. Major league pitchers can throw inside without plunking a guy.
psychologically it's different in the playoffs.
and I thought my copious use of qualifiers in the original comment made it clear that I wasn’t insisting on the interpretation.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Furcal was standing right on the line in his first AB
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
that was hilarious
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
The short leash was ridiculous
No team is going to fuck around with ejections and unnecessary baserunners from HBP in the middle of a postseason series. I can understand the umpire’s attitude in a meaningless September game, but the bench warning in the first of game I was ridiculous.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I agree 100%.
Giving the opposition base runners via intentional HBPs would be incredibly stupid.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
well, like I said
if there was nothing bubbling in the media, and no one gave the media anything to spout over, then the umps wouldn’t have a reason for the short leash.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
And Joe Torre met with both TLR and Roenicke prior to Game 1 about playing a clean series.
It wasn’t just the media bubbling it.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
yeah. this stuff comes back. I do say it with a bit of I-told-you-so but I think it's sad too that this is considered edgy "New School"
I hate to think of the fallout from the Hall of Famers after a clubhouse attendant in a costume threw out first pitch. I mean, this stuff is not just This Year. Baseball simply doesn’t work that way.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Witness TLR's reaction to last night's plunk
No team is going to fuck around with ejections and unnecessary baserunners from HBP in the middle of a postseason series.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
I don't think that's true
I think the Brewers got rattled when Pujols went critical in game 2, and the series was never really the same after that.
IIRC Freese’s HR off Marcum last night was on an inside pitch.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Mets fan here
congrats to the Cards. Good luck and best wishes in the series.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Oct 17, 2011 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
thank you!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Congrats
I think you’re the first Mets fan I’ve felt any appreciation for since 1985.
Thanks. Hope that Mr. Wilpon doesn’t run your whole organization into the ground before he sells the team, like Mr. McCourt did with that other NY team that no longer plays there.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
For all the talk about Nelson Cruz
Did you guys realize he was only worth 1.6 fWAR during the regular season? And he had a wRC+ of just 116? For comparison, David Freese was worth 2.7 fWAR (in nearly 30 less games) and had a wRC+ of 122. Hell even Yadier Molina had a wRC+ of 123.
So… the Cardinals have a better #7 hitter than the greatest #7 hitter in history? Does not compute…
national talking heads said Detroit elevated the ball.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
So Texas cannot lift and separate?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
FWIW
He’s their Allen Craig if we had the ability to run a DH out there, including all the injury issues this season. They both hit the majors late, nobody believed they could hit major league pitching until they actually hit major league pitching, etc.
If Craig gets 500 healthy PA’s I can totally see him hitting 25 homers and putting up an .850 OPS.
I think we get a huge advantage at their park by being able to play all of our good hitters in the same lineup. They basically add either Mitch Moreland or Yorvit Torrealba. I think that’s a win for the Cardinals.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Yeah
But he’s always fucking hurt — that’s the story of his career really.
Also, go look at his peripherals from the last couple of years — he’s not super impressive offensively outside of having home run power in a ball park where you can hit a lot of home runs.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Well Freese was hurt too
And Freese played about 30 less games than Cruz this season. I understand that nagging injuries may have held him back (ala Berkman in 2010) but this is still pretty damn interesting.
Cruz is getting overhyped
but the thing about him is he does this- goes on insane hot streaks where he’s homering every game. he follows that up with a month of suckage and a dl stint. hence his saber stats aren’t all that impressive.
’
DH
Allen Craig gets added to the lineup in the AL park? Does that mean Jon Jay still starts vs the left handed starter which Texas has a few of? Or do the Cards DH one of their middle infielders?
Jay will probably start versus lefties
He typically moves from his customary 2-spot down to 8th (or maybe now 9th in the AL park), but he’s pretty much our guy in CF.
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Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
I think he'll hit 9th when we play in Texas
Second leadoff basically.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
he certainly was on out 2 in the 9th last night
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
that was money
I went from aw shit to OH SHIT
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
And yeah, Allen Craig probably plays LF or RF
And Holliday or Berkman takes the DH spot.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Sure thing
You thinking you might run your sims on the World Series? If so, it’d be great if you could cross-post them over here.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Yes
I will post the results here and maybe at LSB too. I just want to have the lineups as accurate as possible and that is where your help comes in to play. On weekends I can usually run it with the actual lineups but on a work day it is not so easy. Prelim sim has the Cardinals at just over 53% for Game 1 – Vegas has around 55%.
by Xeifrank on Oct 17, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what is this
do you mean “wooooooooooo”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Very cool, thanks!
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
I look for
Craig and Freese to do well in Arlington. They can both hit with power to the opposite field and that RF porch in Texas is short. Berkman can put some in the porch if he gets quality at bats from the left side.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Rotation?
Amid all this talk about Punto vs. Theriot, whether Schumaker or Chambers is on the WS roster, who will be pitcher #12, etc. — what about the starters? Obviously Carp and Jaime (good Busch-Stadium Jaime, I hope) go in games 1 and 2. with Carp returning in the always pivotal game 5 in TX on normal rest, and Jaime in game 6 back in StL (with an extra day’s rest) if necessary. But what to do w/Lohse and Jackson? Whoever pitches game 3 in Texas would also get game 7 if needed, and the other guy gets game 4. Would you rather have possibly pitch two games — Jackson or Lohse? I guess I go w/Jackson — at least he had one decent start this postseason. On the other hand, the Rangers aren’t as familiar w/Lohse (EJax pitched most of the past 7 years in the AL). Thoughts?
Looking at the schedule
I’d say that Carp starts Game 1 on Oct. 19, Game 5 on Oct. 24, and Game 7 on Oct. 27. I agree that Jaime probably starts Game 2 on Oct. 20 and, if necessary, Game 6 on Oct. 26. It will be Lohse and Jackson getting the ball in Game 3 and Game 4. I don’t know in which order and I don’t think it much matters.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Carp on two days' rest?
I’m not sure even the great Chris Carpenter could do much in game 7 on 2 days’ rest. I assume you’re thinking of that as another bullpen game.
I’m having second thoughts on Jackson. SSS warning, but much of the Rangers’ lineup has raked against him throughout his career:
Michael Young .273 .333 .364 .697
Ian Kinsler .333 .400 .722 1.122
Adrian Beltre .429 .400 .500 .900
Nelson Cruz .417 .462 .583 1.045
David Murphy .500 .692 1.000 1.692
Elvis Andrus .333 .333 .444 .778
Yeah
if you’re trying to get three starts out of carp, he should be starting game 4 on the 23rd, and not game 5 on the 24th.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I amend my answer.
For some reason, I saw that and thought “three days’ rest.” My mistake. I think TLR will bump him up if we’re behind but keep in for Game 5 if we’re ahead 2-1 going into Game 4.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Jackson will get the ball in Game 3 and Game 7
He’s got better stuff than Lohse.
There’s no way Carp would pitch Game 5 and Game 7. If anything he’d pitch Game 4 on short rest and then Game 7 on short rest. I’m not sure that’s a good idea considering how potent their lineup is, but it might depend on how rested the bullpen is coming off of Game 3.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I'd like to see Carp pitch Game 5 and then be in the bullpen for game 7 if needed
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by jd is legend on Oct 17, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless TLR tries the 1-4-7 thing with Carp
I could also see game 7 being penciled in as a “kitchen sink” game where everyone who didn’t start game 6 would be expected to be ready to throw an inning or two, considering that the starters have been so much less reliable than the relievers.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I'd rather have two good Carp starts than 1 good and 2 mediocre
Give me Carp on full rest in games 1 and 5 (and going 7+ innings in both, I hope) rather than try to squeeze him into games 1-4-7 w/both of the latter coming on 3 days rest. I know our bullpen’s been lights-out this postseason, but I’d rather save them for when I know I’ll need them (Lohse/Jackson/Garcia starts) and hope Carp can give us two great starts. We saw what happened to Carp on 3 days’ rest in Philly. I could see a healthy Wainwright doing it, but Carp’s older and has too many innings already on his arm this year to expect him to pitch well in that situation.
by DCRedbird on Oct 17, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It all depends on how the starts go
If he throws a CG-SHO in Game 1, it’s likely he wouldn’t pitch again until Game 5. But if he struggles in Game 1 and only throws, say, 60 – 70 pitches, he could very well be available in Game 4.
I dislike La Russa as much as anyone, but this is going to be his judgement call with input from DD. We’re just going to have to trust that they make the best decisions.
Hopefully Carp throws a one hit shutout in Game 1 and we don’t have to worry about it. Or we score 13 runs in the first five innings and can shut him down early in favor of the bullpen to save him for Game 4.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
very much agreed
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Adam Wainwright.
Games 1, 2, 3, and 4. Birds win.
by WyoCardsFan on Oct 17, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if La Russa doesn't go with...
12 or even 13 pitchers and have a bullpen game in Texas. I know that sounds nuts, but we won’t need PHs in 3 of the 7 games. Add Sanchez and Skip. Delete Descalso and Chambers. Go with a bench of Skip, Punto, Laird with Theriot and Furc starting against the lefties. The bullpen would be Motte-Salas-Sanchez-Lynn-Dotel-Zip-Rhodes-Kmac-Boggs. That’s a pen that could pitch 5-6 innings every game.
Without Descalso,
who would play third base in the late innings?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Perhaps the NLCS MVP might have an answer for you
by hangingfromatree on Oct 17, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Albert Pujols could do it too.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
there is no way that descalso is left off the roster
why are we removing him in favor of schumaker anyway?
by prophetjohn on Oct 17, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
there is 0% chance of Descalso being left off the roster
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Took it upon myself to do a wRC+ comparison of the two lineups. We came out very well
Keep in mind that wRC+ is league and park adjusted.
Furcal (105) < Kinsler (128)
Craig (158) >> Andrus (96)
Pujols (148) > Hamilton (129)
Berkman (159) > Young (127)
Holliday (154) > Beltre (134)
Freese (122) << Napoli (178!!!)
Molina (123) > Cruz (116) (still can’t get over this one)
Jay (112) > Murphy (93)
Punto (123) > Chavez (98)
So there’s precisely one spot where the vaunted Rangers lineup has an advantage over the Cardinals (though it is a pretty big advantage). Narrative says the Rangers have the better offense, but the numbers don’t support it.
and overall
rangers – 113
cardinals – 111
and some of that is attributable to the cardinals giving every ninth at bat to a pitcher.
by prophetjohn on Oct 17, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
RIght
I think it’s pretty clear that with a DH the Cardinals actually have the better lineup. Oddly, though, the DH helps the Cardinals more than it helps the Rangers. The Cards get to add Allen Craig. The Rangers get to add Moreland or Murphy.
More likely
They add Torrealba behind the plate and move Napoli to DH.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
are OPS+ and other + metrics adjusted to league (as in NL and AL averages, respectively)
or adjusted against all of baseball (MLB adjusted, ie)
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
league, i think
i don’t know how the other would work. it wouldn’t really be an adjustment if you used all of MLB
by prophetjohn on Oct 17, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
gotcha
I was just wondering (and please excuse my statistical/mathematical ignorance) whether Texas has the superior offense but has a lower adjusted OPS+ due to higher offensive averages in the AL.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
their unadjusted stats are better
but given the context of their league and park, they’re close to the cards
it's not literally every 9th, though
since relievers basically never bat. Anybody know what the % of NL teams’ PAs going to pitchers is?
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Anything more sad than
Ted Simmons Speed Camp spreading his hatred all over SBN? Good grief man.
Also, it appears Rangers fans have a great deal of hatred for Berkman, although not sure why.
He said some things about Texas
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
so that catch in center?
Damn jay is looking great out there right now.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 11:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Reminisent of Willie Mays
in the 1954 WS. But, of course, the Polo Grounds was like 550 feet to Center.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
AP shot
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 18 recs
he even looks surprised he caught it.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 11:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Great catch, but not Willie Mays-esque
If you want to see a Willie Mays like catch, go back and watch the Chris Young catch from the NLDS. THAT was Mays-esque.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I screamed so loud...
I awoke my peacefully sleeping girlfriend and my snoring pug from the other room.
When I came into the bedroom after the game, my girlfriend asked me “Why did you scream ‘Supreme Justice!’ at the top of your lungs?”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 17, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
hilarious!!
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
just to freak her out, you should now scream that
at…how should I put this….the height of intimacy
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Victory for the forces of democratic freedom!
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
this is how I will proposition her to intimacy.
“Erection…SUSTAINED!”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 17, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
and then she smacks it with a gavel....
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Let the photoshopping commence!
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
so frickin awesome
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 17, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
C.J. Wilson's Pitching Mechanics
For those of you who are interested in this sort of thing, I just put together an analysis of…
- C.J. Wilson’s Pitching Mechanics
Boog would have made that play.
by thepainguy on Oct 17, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Stark
One of these days, this impossible dream is going to hit home, and they’re going to think, “This can’t be real. This can’t be happening.”
Oh, but it’s happening, all right. The St. Louis Cardinals are heading for the World Series. But not just any World Series.
This World Series is an official baseball miracle, the culmination of a story that defies even their own imagination.
“It’s hard to explain, man,” said reliever Octavio Dotel on this unforgettable Sunday night, the night his team finished both this NLCS and its unfathomable World Series journey with a typically insane 12-6 win over the Brewers. "It’s really hard to explain.
“I go to bed sometimes,” Dotel went on, “and I sit in bed and I say, ‘Wow, we’re in this spot, and I can’t believe it. I can’t believe where we are and how we’ve been playing for the last month.’”
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
It really is real….
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 11:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
out-of-towners, here's whats on our driveways
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
thanks for that.
can you mail me one?
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 17, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i... don't think you'll want my copy.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Was I hearing things last night,
or did Albert say he was going to do everything he could to be back in STL next year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Which is either a reassuring thing
Or a passive-aggressive threat to management to get this thing done or else.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Still can't believe we were thinking about trading him earlier this year
how nuts is this season?
Sig WIP
Breaking: Nelson Cruz just hit another home run.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions
lomogohoro
fish lead 4-1
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Related: Nyjer Morgan just did a hulk pose
After taking his morning piss…
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Just going through game threads...
I am reccing and laughing like crazy folks…
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Well there goes my dreams of WS tickets
Dentist said potentially need a root canal if when he drills the tooth he finds that its too close to area containing nerve.
So that $2500 down the toilet.
Yay Mondays!
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 17, 2011 11:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
insurance?!
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
dental is not covered in most insurance plans
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
And dental plans often only cover check-ups and cleanings.
Real dental insurance is pretty expensive.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
dental insurance is what i meant.
on a related note, however, i think that’s a huge crock of shit that dental isn’t covered on most health plans.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
well the answer to that is
what The Continental said.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
My employer has fucked with me for 8 months
Doing a dance about not insuring me bc of paperwork snafus or me not being in enrollement period.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 17, 2011 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this may have been posted already
but John Sickels has a discussion open today about the Cards’ farm system.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Hi Kyle.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played.
Red Baron
can we that shirt somewhere?
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
get*
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
this has been a great postseason run...
there are mascots and catchphrases. Now when people think of the 2011 Zombie Cardinals and their incredible, nigh-unbelievable run to the 2011 World Series, they will think of “Happy Flight”, Torty and Rally Squirrels with commericals. Personally, I will also remember Wainwright doing something goofy nearly every time he is on camera. At the beginning of the NLCS, most media outlets attempted to paint the Brewers as the “fun-lovin’ youngsters, just going out there and playin’ ball.” But I beg to differ, the Cardinals are the team that has been playing the loosest, looking like they are having the most fun, and have probably been the most entertaining this postseason. I’m sure winning has something to do with that, but come on, look at that shirt.
I know that I will remember this postseason run more fondly than any in the mid-00’s, outside of 2006.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Oct 17, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
we'll always have the 2004 NLCS
that was pretty epic
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Yes it was.
That had some amazing moments, 25(?!?!) homeruns in a 7 game series, back and forth, walkoffs, rival historic performances by two young stars (Pujols/Beltran), my favorite defensive play ever (Edmonds’ dive), and the highest drama. I cannot take anything away from it.
That being said, this playoff still tops it for me. (Disclaimer: i reserve the right to change this opinion.)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i hoping this world series has everything the 2004 and 2006 NLCS's had.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i wish i lived in st louis
because i can’t just do this at random throughout the day today, which is what i feel like doing
by prophetjohn on Oct 17, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
here in Boston, walking to school
I’ve already gotten two “WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Go Cards!” from random people (I’m wearing a Cards shirt today, naturally).
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
The icing on the cake:
The brewers can now go to Disney world and hang out with sully , the disney monster who threw out the first pitch;in maybe one of the biggest games in franchise history!
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
i purchased one of these last night
http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12195700&cp=12240879
wish i could wear it today
that is a pretty hot shirt.
May have to get one for myself. Leaving here on Wednesday to STL and since i’m currently in the future i arrive at nearly the same time i leave! I want that shirt waiting for me now
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
might as well just buy one when you get to st louis
unless you wanna pay for the expedited shipping. they told me to expect mine next monday at the earliest
by prophetjohn on Oct 17, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd hold off on the shirt
since, you know, you bought all those world series tickets for everyone.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I like the shirt,
in ‘06, I got hats. I’m not sure if I like the hats this year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
In '06, I was really disappointed that the World Series Champions shirts weren't red.
Red ones were released later, sure, but I couldn’t believe the official shirt wasn’t red. I like the National League Champions shirts this year. A cool design on red!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
of course, they don't make it in men's small.
what is wrong with this country
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
haven't you heard about the obesity pandemic in this country?
there are no small men anymore. the 4XL men ate them.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the creeping influence
of communism. or indifference to smallish women not in favor of rayon, and to Tim Kurjian. I feel your pain.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
hey now..............
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
not me.
i’m 6’7" and 205. just speaking in generalities here.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
yeah, well...........I'm not 6'7 and 205.........
more like 5’9 and 240. I’m built more like Yadi only not as tall.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
so it's your fault IHB can't buy a men's small.
I HATE YOU
not really
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 17, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
go ahead and drop it on me. I can take it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
rec'd for moral support
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Did you see
<a href="http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1221http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12210559&cp=122408790559&cp=12240879" >this one?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Wow.
SBN’d to the max. I’m not even sure how that happened.
IHB, have you seen this shirt? It is a women’s t-shirt and not a men’s but it might suffice.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Men's Small
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
you are my hero!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I wear men's small shirts
Hell, I can barely buy pants that fit me in stores nowadays.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
The 2011 St. Louis Fucking Cardinals
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
by Aranathor on Oct 17, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Anyone see this on espn?
Map of world series expected winner by states via a vote. I really like it
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
Why is everyone picking Texas?
The teams are mirror images of each as far as I can tell, with the main difference being that we have home-field and Texas’ best player claims to be at 50% health.
I don't mind it.
Rangers in 3, right?
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Shhh, keep it quite
They’ll figure it out after the series is over.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
because everybody's had it drummed into their head that AL > NL
so the AL team is basically always favored. Cards’ rotation hasn’t exactly covered themselves in glory in the postseason w/ the exception of the Carpenter/Halladay game.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Absolutely.
In the last 15 years, I think the 2008 Phillies were probably the only NL team hat was the consensus “expert” pick to win the WS.
by DJ Jazzy Jeff Weaver on Oct 17, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony's teams seem to perform a hell of a lot better when they're underdogs
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
and the 2011 phillies
doh.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
YOU THINK DAVID FREESE ISN'T GOING TO PULL THE BALL FOR HOME RUNS?!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
by IHeartBoog on Oct 17, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
how much and what seats? i need tickets!
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
too much and not very good
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
One request:
Can I get the forum link to that guy who put down the $50 when the Cards were 200:1 to win the NLCS?
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
so.....
….anybody? Linkety-link?
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
you guys are so full of unhelpfulness.
hang on, let me go look for it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
nsfw avatars
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that was an absorbing read
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
got my game 6 tickets last night
woo
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I would totally be willing to throw down for the tickets
but the ridiculous airfare to STL these days is another story. Lowest Thanksgiving airfare from Boston to STL, per Kayak, e.g.: $682. That’s just fucking absurb, and though it would be lower to come back for a WS game, it’s still sky-high.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
yeah, for whatever reason airfare is utterly astronomical.
i looked for fares and the cheapest i could do was about seven hundred dollars.
bummer.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
southwest is running a deal next week
phx-stl $116 each way. bf and i got flights for just about $500 total.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
What happens if we don't make it to Game 6?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
then i guess i don't get to go.
that’s why i went with southwest. but there was no way for us to go this week. plane tickets were through the roof (like $700 EACH) and we couldn’t miss work with only a day’s notice.
good news is we aren’t flying back until friday, so if there’s a game 7, i’ll be there, too.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
HURRAY!
where did you buy them?
i am so happy for you being able to go and all.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
stubhub. paid a lot, but oh well. plane tix were cheaper than i expected.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
What section are you in?
I’m in 589T for that game
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
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You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
love those sections around there
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
yeah? i haven't been to busch since 2006, and then we sat in the bleachers. i dont remember anything about the stadium really
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Yeah, down third base line, not far into the outfield from third base
I’m in 350, closer to home plate but higher
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
ME t
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 17, 2011 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ME TOO!!!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 17, 2011 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No offense to you IHB,
but I really hope that you aren’t able to use them.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Last night saw the best poker hand of my life
Was playing Texas Holdem and the cards up were 8,9,A,Q,K all diamonds. My buddy had J,10 of Diamonds. So had a Royal Flush from 8 to A.
isn't a royal flush
10, jack, queen, king, ace? the eight and nine don’t play into it, right?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Well, you only play 5 cards in Hold'em
But that is wicked
2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
Bilingual Twitter
at a lot of casinos that nets u some extra cash just for getting a royal flush
what a lucky bastard. Been playing hold em for 10 years straight and i’ve never seen a fucking royal flush at a live table
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The odds on just a Royal Flush is
1 in 649,740. So this has to be in the millions
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 17, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I've caught two in my life.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Are you insuating that the end of the movie "Maverick" was inaccurate?????
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
I saw a hand similar to this one
a few years ago in a live 10-10 NLHE game. The board was 7-T-J-Q-6 of spades, the UTG player had 8-9 of spades and the button had A-K of spades. One outed him on the turn.
Suffice to say, they both got it all in on the turn, and the button took a $2000 pot. Of course, the UTG player got half the bad beat, which was $114,000. Unfortunately I was a ring bird and not in the game at the time.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Wow
I actually had a straight flush in hold ’em once… naturally, my friends playing with me all had crap and were scared away before I even thought about how much to bet.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Ya, I think I made 4 dollars on the Royal I caught two years ago.
Checking only works if someone bets.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 17, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - Wiki - PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 17, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
you sound like a big choo choo train
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
oddest thing on bcb jv
that i’ve seen so far
a picture of a tortoise
and “the tortoise wins!”
they played right into our hands.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'll link this because it brings brewers fans and cardinals fans together
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Red Sox still trying their hardest to cling to spotlight.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Neat gift from Stan and his grandson to Freese:
Check it out here.
Freese responded that it was ‘unreal.’ Cool stuff.
by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 17, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Ah, thanks
I basically just got here and am trying my best to grind through this thread.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I wonder who the Red Sox will get as compensation for Theo...
also, who will replace Francona? Will Ortiz leave? Does Crawford bouce back? Was Lester eating chicken between starts? Has Papeldouche matured? Is Pedroia too short to be a leader?
So many interesting questions in basball right now…
okay...
a prospect and 1 person to bring with, the bench coach, yes, no, probably, no, yes
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
we can't forget!!
Where will CC land? How many pitcher’s will the Yankees sign? What will be the Yankee’s post for Darvish?
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I dint know what pisses me off more
Talking about football over baseball, or (once they finally do get around to talking baseball) talking solely about the Sawx
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 17, 2011 1:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They probably will and it will probably be cash
since there’s not a soul that anyone in their right mind would want from that shitty fucking farm system.
No idea who replaces Tito, but Bobby Vee would be at the top of the list of guys I would think.
Ortiz is going to depend on money and years, and there’s an outside shot he ends up with the Yankees on a one year deal.
Crawford probably bounces back — he’s too talented not to.
Who cares.
No, and who cares.
No, he’s the best second baseman in baseball right now and he’ll tell you that too.
Also, CDGAFATFBRS.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Heh
As an aside (and I don’t mean this as a shot at you, guayzimi, just a tangent): Does anybody but me think it’s hilarious that Dustin Pedroia is apparently doomed to go down in history not as “that really good second baseman” but rather as “that short guy who was surprisingly good as baseball”? My math might be a bit off but I think he’s averaged something like 5 WAR per year since becoming a full time player.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
He did win an MVP, deserved or not,
And when it’s all said and done and he continues his current offensive pace, he’s going to have numbers better than most anyone that played at the position not named Joe Morgan.
I get what you’re saying, but I think at some point he’s going to be recognized as a great player. Sadly, this will probably never happen to Chase Utley, who was far better than Pedroia for most of this decade, is past his prime, and doesn’t have an MVP or GG to his name.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Yeah, it seems like people (non-saber-inclined versions anyway) finally caught on to Utley's awesomeness
right around when he started declining.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
McDaniels gets Lloyd
and still no one cares.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions
it would be a huge move if we were like 2-3 instead of 0-5
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
it is a ploy by the broncos
trade all their best players to the teams they are competing against for the #1 pick
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
the rams will get some wins down the stretch win they start playing divisional games.
they aren’t in contention for the #1 pick. and if they somehow got it they would trade it. guaranteed.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
how you like getting owned in the face, iheartboog?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
what?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
fantasy football, douchebags.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 18, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry, robot.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
berkman DH craig in RF?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
That makes the most sense to me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
But what do you know
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
but isn't Holliday still playing with injuries?
I wouldn’t be too surprised if Craig to RF, Berk to LF, Holliday to DH
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 17, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently lone star ball
does not prohibit political conversation. yikes.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
It can be quite a shock...
what is allowable on other sbn blogs. VEB might be the most tightly controlled one of them all…
I don't know about that
But they are on LOCKDOWN
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I'm not sure...
all I know is I posted a couple things there once and came back a few hours later to find that I broke 15 rules.
and strict grammer nazism is not just a poster thing, it is something a moderator
will threaten for.
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
i'd actually prefer it if veb was a little more strict on grammar.
or perhaps just spelling. i’ve noticed a bit of chat-speak on here recently and it annoys me.
lookout also ban-hammers for saying “+1” or “this” which i like too.
basically, i’m an internet forum fascist.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
we *just* got the influx from deadspin!
dude!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you guys are the very worst.
and i love you all very much.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
what a bunch of communists.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Almost all of our chat-speak is ironic
I realize that might actually make it worse depending on your point of view, but it’s worth noting.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
yeah, i ignore the stuff i know is irony
which mostly comes from longtime posters who are usually well-spoken as it doesn’t bother me. i’m talking about some of the new blood saying stuff like r u goin to the game? it’s happened infrequently but it still annoys me.
i’m too tightly wound.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
just remember how mush your foibles annoyed your parents
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
that's because lookout landing has dealt with a lot of bullshit.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
what have they dealt with?
im seriously curious i;ve never been over there
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 17, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i think of them as one of the premiere sbn sites, though.
which i’m not entirely sure is warranted, but just look at their front-page article today. sheer excellence. i pop in every now and again just to read what the authors are saying.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
and this fanpost, where various commenters
wrote poems about the mariners in the styles of various famous poets.
it got 139 recs.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
they also have the highest rec requirement
of any of the sbn sites.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
jeff sullivan out of freaking nowhere.
on an aside, what does the “we miss you dave” in lookout landing’s header mean? is that referring to dave cameron? i’m confused. i thought he did u.s.s. mariner.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Dave Niehaus
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I will now post
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Poor Al Yellon?
He deserves all the criticism he’s getting for such a irrelevant post. How many games did the Franklin and Batista blow for us in the first two months? If all games ended after 8 innings (as they did for Detroit and Milwaukee all season), we would have won the division by 5 games!!!!!!!! But Carlos Marmol is the reason we’re in the playoffs?
He’s the most self serving author around and then gets entirely bent out of shape when he gets criticized for being a self serving homer, and this isn’t even on the BCB site, where it should be. There’s plenty to write about in Cub land right now, so why bring up this bullshit? What are we supposed to do, thank Carlos Marmol for being a shitty relief pitcher for a team that was irrelevant from June 1st on?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 17, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know, that was my attempt at sarcasm
I’d say the comments put him to good justice (you can rec those too, by the way)
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 17, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yellon is virtually incapable of writing an article without mentioning some Cubs slant.
His writing at Baseball Nation is an embarrassment. I have to restrain myself from signing up there. I’d end up just following Yellon around and pointing out how awful / biased / nonsensical his writing is.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not so much that,
it’s the every post seems to develop from “how can I relate my shitty favorite team to current events in baseball”?
If the Rangers happen to win the World Series it’ll be because the Cubs didn’t make some trade for Elvis Andrus and Neftali Feliz that might have been on the table when they were acquired by Texas or something.
It’s that he only writes what he knows and can’t push himself to write outside that. I guess I just find that lazy.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
here is a poem about yuniel escobar from that thread:
Yuni, Yuni, burning bright
As our shortstop every night
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy errors gone awry?
To what distant deeps or skies
Went the throws our shortstop tries?
On what wings dare he aspire?
Where the skills we did admire?
And what pitcher, & what art.
Did pull the bat and ball apart?
And with thy legs no longer fleet,
What dread eye? & what dread feet?
What the value? what the gain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the virtue? what dread grasp
Did your former skillset clasp?
When the fans threw down their jeers,
And watered heaven with their tears,
Did you smile the town to flee?
Did Jack who traded Putz trade thee?
Yuni! Yuni! burning bright
As our shortstop every night
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy errors gone awry?
sauce
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
If Yuni Escobar ever finds out you confused him with Yuni Betancourt
SMH
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
i knew who the poem was about
but completely mistyped the last name for some reason.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
If I recall correctly it was a C-Girl fanpost and had some real gems.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
good thing I was looking at her profile in another tab
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/9/23/1051161/colbys-sonnet
Still not a werewolf.
In the process I also found her Good Looking All Star Team
which is awesome, if only for the amount of debate and discussion it sparked.
Still not a werewolf.
I actually thought there were more poems than that in there...
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
meaning
YOU had a real gem. that was fantastic. i’d seen it before but it’s always good to be reminded.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Yeah, I didn't mean to toot my own horn here as much as I ended up doing
I though there was more stuff, but there was some nice discussion of meter and rhyme scheme.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Jeff Sullivan is the best
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions
What?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions
The Rangers are playing in the World Series!
Let’s celebrate by arguing about politics!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i mean, texas is pretty unilateral in their political beliefs.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
austin, dallas, and san antonio are very liberal
by brighten the corners on Oct 17, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
you know who else is pretty liberal?
rui’s mom.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 17, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If by liberal you mean giving it away to poor people...I agree
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
by TomCat009 on Oct 17, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Best rui's mom joke I've seen in a long time
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 17, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how it's not green.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
is now
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
I know. I also find it funny that people think everyone in California is super liberal.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
If you plucked Austin down in the inland empire
the residence would feel very at home
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
no way. austin feels more like a bay area city
berkeley is kind of like the austin of california
by brighten the corners on Oct 17, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I was saying that Austin would have that same isolated feeling
not unlike the one Eugene has in Oregon
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
Austin is very liberal
but Dallas and SA are mixed. All three cities’ suburbs are very conservative. And the population in the suburbs is greater. But we Texans welcome the stereotypes – it plys our nationalism.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
do you like the cardinals AND the rangers?
i’ve met a lot of cardinals and red sox fans in texas who don’t like the rangers
by brighten the corners on Oct 17, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
wait.
they are fans of both the cardinals and the red sox, or are you referring to two mutually exclusive groups? because i can’t imagine a cardinals/red sox fan. that’s sacrilege.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I know a Cards / Red Sox fan who is mostly a Red Sox fan
I guess it’s easier when you’re a Sawx fan seeing as they won that World Series that didn’t happen in 2004.
by Houdinimachine on Oct 17, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It's complicated
I have been a Cardinals fan since Musial’s last great season in 1962. I have lived and died with them ever since. But I have lived in Dallas for 38 years and have suffered through some pretty atrocious baseball until recently. There are an amazing number of conflicted Cardinal fans down here. Since Nolan Ryan’s took control of the team in 2008 as President and top baseball man, the team has blossomed and is extremely popular down here. And Ron Washington is a helluva lot more likeable than TLR. But at the end of the day, at the risk of domestic intranquility, I will cheer for the Redbirds.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
I lived in San Antonio for 10+ years
and I can guarantee that it is not liberal.
Still not a werewolf.
ptsh yeah, you're just biased though because all of your friends probalbly like pavement
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Link me, yo
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i vaguely skimmed that
but to be honest, that’s far more tame than most internet politics discussions I’ve read.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, but this is the day after they clinched their World Series berth
Who discusses politics then?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
yeah for serious.
i posted that comment and then z’d through ours and facepalmed.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Oh I didn't read our thread
Whose fault?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
HL can't go to the world series
because his health plan doesn’t cover dental insurance.
then we discussed health care.
then we teetered on the edge of politics and dipped our toe in the water.
then bgh stopped it, thank gob.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
well, you are discussing others discussing politics the day after they clinched
and there is a healthcare discussion in this thread that teetered on the edge of politics until fourstick (I think) thoroughly drove it over the cliff.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
for the love of decency everyone talk about handegg!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that got ugly quick yesterday
Rams fans be testy
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
it is.
i was just sort of shocked reading the thread. it was “politics out of fucking nowhere” and then they actually discussed it.
veb toes the line most of the time, and we’ve teetered on the edge recently, but generally we avoid the political and the religious, which i greatly appreciate. it’s easier to like people when you don’t know their politics and religion. call me shallow.
i don’t want a meta-conversation about politics and religion either. i’m just saying i appreciate their absence on this forum.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
NO LOLITICS
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
99% of what
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
of us who shouldn't be on an MLB 25 man roster
~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~
by TomCat009 on Oct 17, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
of the people that shouldn't be in professional baseball
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 17, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, i can't see it either
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If I were Freese
That might become my most cherished possession.
"I have discovered, in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
I wouldn't tell anyone, though
Craig Sager could show up and take it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'd build a climate controlled vault just to house it
And I’m not sure I would wash the hand, either.
"I have discovered, in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
SBN problems for anyone else?
when I try to load VEB from firefox, I get “Connection to apis.google.com” and it never completes. For the moment, I’m getting around the problem by using Internet Exploder… Ugh.
youneverknow
Working decently on Opera
z’ing is kind of screwed up, but it’s been that way for a while now
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 17, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i've got FF, i'm having no problems.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Lookout Landing:
There were as many home runs in the first two and a half innings of this game as the Mariners hit in the first 20 days of July.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
#6!
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
hello friends, everyone feeling nice and squirrely?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
did anyone really watch Albert's body language during his interview with Saber at the end of the game?
He looked like he was in love. To me, anyway. He looked like a man that truly appreciated his organization and it’s fan base, and didn’t want to leave.*
*these observations, of course, are by no indication of what the off season will bring.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
with his hat backwards, he looked like a kid
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and he
shook his head no at the thought of playing for somebody else. looked a little teary, too.*
*these observations, of course, are by no indication of what the off season will bring.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
there is some sort of handegg St. Louis-related stuff
and FESPN is actually covering it.
deploy the DanUp…
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"It is a matchup most ironic in a season that was supposed to be defined by pitching."
And it is especially ironic because of the kind of baseball that each team plays: The Rangers play NL style ball, more or less, the DH notwithstanding – very much like the Cardinals of old; the Cardinals, meanwhile, are a station to station team with little speed. It’s like Bizarro World.
"I have discovered, in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
the rangers don't have a conventional DH
their offense wouldn’t really suffer without it as mitch moreland hasn’t been good this year and essentially hits like a pitcher
by brighten the corners on Oct 17, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
They should be able to adjust to a non-DH game readily enough
The real question is how many of their starting pitchers will be able to lay down a competent bunt. I wouldn’t put it past Washington to have made them do periodic practice through the season, but…
"I have discovered, in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
AL pitchers actually hit better during this year's interleague play
i’m not sure NL pitchers really hone their batting skills
by brighten the corners on Oct 17, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
the rangers also have superior defense and baserunning
by brighten the corners on Oct 17, 2011 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
Unquestionably
I never thought I would live to see the day when the Cards finished dead last in the league in stolen bases.
"I have discovered, in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats." - Bill Veeck
so are you a ranger's fan?
because if you want to have a discussion, i’m all for it. but these one-off comments don’t really add to the discussion at all.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
just curious, who are you rooting for this series?
considering the win against the rangers last year and such
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 17, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i live in texas
so i have to root for the rangers. i’d like to see them win their first series
by brighten the corners on Oct 17, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember that time we blew a 5-run lead to the Mets in the 9th inning?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Remember the time Fernando Salas gave up a walkoff bomb to Brandon Phillips with 2 outs?
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 17, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember in 2006 when the Cardinals led the NLCS 3-2, Chris Carpenter started Game 6,
and the Cardinals lost 4-2, which forced a Game 7 in New York while the Tigers waited?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
remember that one time when wainwright didn't pitch for us all season?
and then we still somehow made it to the world series?
oh wait. am i doing this wrong?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
that's why i was still pacing around my living room like a crazy person in the bottom of the 9th last night
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I do remember those days well, when Miguel Batista would enter with a big lead and....
I was tempted to commit seppuku
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Oh no this was like 3 weeks ago
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I was unfortunately there for that one.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
MUST HOLD OFF MAN TEARS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
so Prince Fielder consoles his children with ice cream
/a joke about fatties
it’s a very nice piece though
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
oh my goodness
How do you say thank you? How do you say goodbye? He didn’t know. And at nearly the exact moment McGehee pondered that thought, Fielder began making his way to the clubhouse door to head home. Along the way, he stopped in front of McGehee’s locker, and the two men embraced for several seconds. “I love you,” McGehee said, sobbing.
that bit made me really sad. what a sport, modern baseball. players torn away from teams they love and people they love.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
torn away....by all those millions the brewers can't afford
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
notice fielder wasn't sobbing.
not questioning the man, that’s just the way it is.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
so are you saying it is....?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
NOW I'VE HEARD THERE WAS A SECRET PITCH
THAT JASON THREW AND IT PLEASED LILL’QUIST
BUT YOU DON’T REALLY CARE FOR BASEBALL DO YOU
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 17, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
IT GOES LIKE THIS, THE EIGHTH AND NINE
WITH SALAS ON, HIS CHANGE DIVINE
THE GENIUS COACH COMPOSING HALLELUJAH
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 17, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
i was trying to figure out how to continue this,
but i couldn’t. bravo.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
YOUR 'O' WAS STRONG BUT YOU NEEDED MORE
YOU SAW HIM PITCHING NORTH SHORE
HIS FASTBALL IN THE SUNSHINE OVERTHREW YOU
HE THREW HIS SLIDER IN THE ZONE
THE HITTER WHIFFED, THE FLIGHT WAS FLOWN
AND FROM YOUR LIPS, HE DREW THE HALLELUJAH
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 17, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Throw in an "on" between pitching and north
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Also I have no idea if the White Sox actually play on Chicago's north shore
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
southside.
northside is where the losers play
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
shouldn't "hallelujah" be in its own line
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 17, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
BABY I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE
THE CARDS ARE HERE WITH TEN IN YORE
I USED TO MANAGE THE A’S BEFORE I KNEW YOU
I’VE SEEN YOUR FLAGS ON THE MARBLE ARCH
A PENNANT’S NOT A VICTORY MARCH
IT’S A COLD AND IT’S A BROKEN HALLELUJAH
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 17, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Alright I got lazy back to work
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
where's the tylenol?
I’m going to have the hap-hap-happiest world series since Bing Crosby tapdanced with Danny f***ing Kaye!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
“Talk about pissing your money away. I hope you kids see what a silly waste of resources Marcum was.”
“He worked really hard, Grandma.”
“So do pitching machines.”
by all4tookie on Oct 17, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What's that squeaking noise?
………….Squirellllll!
"Pain is only in the mind. For me. Others, no." - Pornstache
"I also remember he threw the ball back to me harder then I threw it to the plate, so that was a little bit worrisome to me." - Boggs on Motte
by GasHouseMang on Oct 17, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
25 Man Roster
Fellow VEBers: We must help TLR set the 25 man roster. I see 20 locks – Furcal, Jay, Pujols, Holliday, Freese, Berk, Craig, Molina, Punto, Laird, Descalso, Carp, Garcia, Jackson, Lohse, Zep, Rhodes, Salas, Dotel, Motte. Choose 5 from among Theriot, Shumaker, Chambers, Greene, Boggs, Westbrook, McClellan, and Sanchez. Sanchez was electric that final weekend against the Astros; he should be added if healthy. I say Theriot, Skip, Boggs, Sanchez and finally Westbrook to eat innings if we are on the wrong side of a blowout.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 17, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
You forgot about LANCE LYNN.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Oops
Forgot Lynn as a lock. Drop Westbrook
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 17, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I get a kick out of some of the FESPN articles:
Almost over. They went 23-9 to make the playoffs on the final day as the Braves fell apart, a minor miracle essentially lost in all the attention given to the collapse of the Boston Red Sox.
Who’s fault is that, FESP?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That's a lot of games to play on the final day
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Of course they can
Density
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ycn-10223307
2006, best year of my life. StL Cardinals AND Indy Colts win their championships.
eh. fan contributors are all well and good, but editing is hit-and-miss
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
is it true that MLB hasn't solidified the Wednesday start time?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Is it not written in the stars?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 17, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Aw man I should've thrown that in the song somewhere
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I was just on the Cards site and no start time yet
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
FOX is having issues stuffing all their celebrities into the stadium
These stupid hick fans have all the tickets.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
actually i saw a headline that said something about profiteers taking tickets away from children
lost is somewhere in the feeds, but i think it was local
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Please find that so I can have a laugh
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i was about to quit digging for the day
shouldn’t be too hard, i do remember “profiteer” in the title
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
judging from link, probably
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm enjoying watching the WS tickets avaliable slowly go down on Stubhub
From the article it sounds like Dad didn’t bother to jump into the lottery for tickets. Sucks for the boy. I don’t see how blaming others for his mistake solves anything.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry I can't afford tickets, son.
But be sure to check out my writing at bleacher report dot com!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
actually the feeds are now in the "ambivalence" and "musing about ambivalence" phase of world series coverage
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
People are now wondering if they should care about not caring about the Series?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
or why their fellow [insert metropolitan area] dwellers don't, or why they don't, or whether they're bitter, or why they should care
yep.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
seems, as the kids say, MFEO
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That there is not baseball today is a disappointment.
That there is not baseball tomorrow is just unfair.
GIMME GIMME GIMME!
don't worry. the zombie cardinals are on their way.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Rest.
Not cool down.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
DON'T TELL ANYONE
HAPPY FLIGHT MOST LIKELY LANDING AROUND NOW.
Fans will not be able to greet the team.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah.
this never fails to surprise me. but then i think about tom s.‘s comment that if you keep running into assholes, it’s probably you, and how i probably wouldn’t like the cardinals much if i wasn’t a fan (carpenter’s antics, pujols’ bat-flips, tlr).
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
honestly, i think alot of it has to do with the past decade.
Champs 2006
World Series 2004, 2006, 2011
NLCS 2000, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2011
Playoffs: 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009, 2011.
That’s alot of exposure and talk about Pujols, TLR and 10 championships. Overexposure causes the hatred of the Yanks & Red Sox, I think it is a similar thing with the Cardinals.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
jealousy.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe a bit.
but also, just hearing about teams alot can get pretty obnoxious. During our big run, I remember either Fox or ESPN saying (more than once), “they might as well call it the National League Cardinals Series, doesn’t seem like you can play it without them.”
That would be annoying.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
it would.
i was more or less talking about the other central teams though, mainly milwaukee, chicago, and cincy. their hatred is all rooted in jealousy.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
which is totally understandable.
seeing a team be at or near the top, year in, year out for a decade would get annoying. i would want to see them lose.
agreed.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
but not always
I know non-Cardinals fans who hate the Cardinals not because of success, but because of the way Carpenter has reacted to their players.
Still not a werewolf.
You could hear the bitterness in Brian Anderson's voice last night after the game
“and it’s the Cardinals, AGAIN, National League Champions”, or something to that effect.
Bitterness is the most delicious of emotions
from devotees of those fervently on the other team’s side.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
This is pretty much it.
I saw a comment from a Brewers fan after game 3 I think it was. The comment went something like… “I hate the Cardinals so &$#^ing bad. This was supposed to be our year, our special season. But instead we’re a joke passing by in one more history book year for the Cardinals.”
From that point of view, I can understand it. There’s always going to be the irrationals with their “Player X from NotMySportsTeam is such a douche” mentalities, but honestly, if I was a fan of another NL Central team, I can easily see myself hating at least TLR and his random cheating accusations. We watch the team enough to see that ’Bert, Carp, etc are actually really good guys, but like any intrinsically good person, no one is perfect and they have their little bad habits that fans of other teams can latch on to. When it comes to that, you can do some classy knuckle tattoos to remind you how to react:
1st hand: WWCD
2nd hand: DGAF
Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.
when you're king of the hill
everybody wants to take you down.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I would hate Carp/Pujols/La Russa...
if I were anyone else. I would also hate how much luck our team seems to encounter, at least recently. These last two playoff runs were extremely unlikely.
What would you hate about Pujols?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Pujols bat flips are nothing
Considering he’s been the best player in baseball for the past decade and hasn’t done anything else that might be considered loathsome. There are literally 200 players who are bigger dicks than Pujols, and none of them actually have the right to be.
Any actually baseball fan likes Pujols because he is an amazing player. Carp might be a dick, but I could care less. I don’t give a shit about other teams dick players, unless they hold up the game. TLR is the only one I could see hating.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Fine with me. To hell with everyone else.
For the Cards to do what they’ve done over the last decade plus, with a fraction of the resources that NYY and BOS have… seriously, everyone else can get bent.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
I'm rec'ing the hell out of this.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
This
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 18, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
For those of you with game 1 tix, particularly SRO,
you might want to plan to get there and in line even earlier than you already were. Just saw on the WWL that Michelle Obama plans to attend game 1. When I was there on opening several years ago, for George W. Bush to throw out the first pitch, lines were almost back to Calecos to get in
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
HFS
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah white house appearances cause a lot of backup with the security
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 17, 2011 3:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The ASG line took forever. Yeah, get there very, very early.
It’ll be a party just standing in line anyway.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It mostly depends on if they use metal detectors, probably
Also, didn’t they close some gates for the ASG, so they’d have fewer to cover?
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
45,000 grains of sand thru an hour glass
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I prefer Gra, actually.
Wat’s single target, whereas gra is hit-all.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
personally I am very disappointed in the game last night
I was hoping we would lose, the Brew Crew would begin to think they had a chance only for Carp to go out and throw a shut out while we scored like 9. The Crew then out of sadness, looking for one last moment of fun with Prince all decide to go on Bernie slide together, their sheer physical and ego weight causes the slide to break sending Brewers all over the place. No one killed, but no one healthy enough for the start of the 2012 season, Cards then win back to back World Series.
But no, they had to go win last night ruing my plan and forcing me to have two baseball free days. Dumb birds…..
Theriot = what my dog poops out...
Game tickets on cardinal.com 250 a piece
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 3:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You sound like you've probed a few holes before
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never snuck into a stadium...
but when standing room is going for three figures you have to start thinking about it.
i've read stories about people sneaking in to other games.
typically involves knowing someone that can somehow get you in, usually in the food services.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm building a giant wooden squirrel as we speak.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Troy is part of Metro East, right?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I believe so.
well, hell, I think the MetroEast goes all the way to I-57
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Assuming you don't mean Troy, Mo
then yes.
I live 10 minutes down the road from there. Pretty much all of Madison and St. Clair counties are Metro East.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Oct 17, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I accidentally snuck into the Chicago Art Museum a couple of weeks ago.
Through sheer absent-mindedness.
Saved myself $20 bucks though…
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
you keep saying this but when i go online, they say there are no tickets available. is this for a particular game?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
on the cardinals.com website
Tickets continually trickle in. Just keep refreshing your browser or reloading different games. The tickets are usually gone in a matter of minutes even seconds.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 4:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Game 1 tickets right now
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 4:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This method works
Too bad I have blown all my money and I can’t afford 310 for infield box seats for game 2
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
oh i see
yep infield box was available, then gone. will keep checking. thanks.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
i especially have troubles with typing the code words or whatever.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Here is another chance for you
sign up and win some tickets
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Carp's elbow sore?
I hope it’s not too bad. Anybody hear more about this?
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
I heard Duncan Jr talking about this in the radio. They still got him for game one as of right now.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah that's where I heard it too
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
@fourstick, bgh, whomever else that cares
sorry for anyone that doesn’t. pretending that this schedule for mizzou would exist in the SEC, here’s what i would see on a year to year basis.
4 out of conference games would average probably 3 wins, though 4 would be possible. pinkel would schedule two cupcakes, one decent mid major, and one BCS team. three wins are virtually guaranteed every year by this schedule.
florida: loss almost every year. (average: 0.2 wins)
georgia: so-so game. we’ll give mizzou the edge 45% of the time. (average: .45 wins)
kentucky: win nearly every time for mizzou (average: 0.8 wins)
south carolina: slight edge to south carolina. (average: 0.4 wins)
tennessee: flip a coin (average: 0.5 wins)
vandy: win almost every time (average: 0.9 wins)
texas a&m: flip a coin (average: 0.5 wins)
floating cross division rival (lsu, alabama, arky, auburn, miss, miss st): that’s pretty much muderer’s row. (average: 0.3 wins)
i’ve got an average of 7 wins/year written down there, a mid level SEC team.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
it's fourstick's fault.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
They'd look more official if
he did something like this. hard to lie in a blockquote
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe this.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
TBender has been terminated. Turn in your timecard and leave the premises.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I believe this too.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Road trip to St. Louis!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Sell your car and buy scoot front row seats to games 1, 2, 6, and 7
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
This source has become suspect because
my car might cover half those games.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
better than watching illinois play football.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, nice comeback
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 17, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think the SEC would go to 9 conference games in a 14-team league
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 17, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure about that
presently, they play 5 versus division rivals, one against a permanent cross-division foe and two against rotating cross-division teams. If they go to 14 (and why would they stop at 13?), they could keep the cross-division the same and go to nine conference games, but I think it’s just as likely that they stay at eight games and either drop the permanent cross-division (more likely) or drop to one rotating instead of two.
In either case, fang’s schedule looks like he thinks Mizzou would go to the east division (and have TAMU as permanent west foe?). That may or may not be how it would shake out, but could be a likely scenario as ’Bama and Auburn are not going to be split up.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 17, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
We used to play 5 division games, 2 permanent cross division games, and 1 rotating cross division game
People complained because you would only play some conference teams twice every eight years. Now you play every rotating team twice every five years. If you did only one permanent cross division game and one rotating cross division game, you would only play every rotating team twice every twelve (!) years. I really don’t see them staying at 8 games schedules.
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Oct 17, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, keeping a permanent cross-division rival
would make the time between playing non-permanent ones too long. I think (strictly my opinion) that they will keep it at eight games but drop the permanent rival and just have two in rotation. I’m not sure the teams will want to have yet another tough game on the schedule as it’s difficult enough now. But, like, that’s just my opinion.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 18, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
For imformative purposes only,
how long would the drive from Lambert to the stadium be? On, say, a Thursday at ~6pm?
45-60 minutes from the time you hop in your rental to the time you take the keys out of ignition.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
And MetroLink would be, what, 30 min?
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
ya...metro would be the way to go.
It would take as long to park as it would to drive there.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
parking for the deck to the northeast of the stadium was $20 for the DS
prices will probably be jacked even higher for the WS.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
correct.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Better idea...hop on the Metrolink. $2.25 for a one-way ticket.
It’s thirty yards outside of the Lambert terminal to get to it.. Take the line into the city and its only twenty steps for you to kneel at the feet of Baseball’s Perfect Knight (right outside the western gate).
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
or the ticket could be free if someone just hands you a pass
which I have had happen to me quite a decent bit. saves you 5 bucks.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a staunch supporter of buying my own ticket...even if someone offers me a free one.
Metrolink/bus is too important of a service to St. Louis (now and going forward) to cheap the service out even that little bit.
For that reason, I also refuse to give valid passes to people standing outside the stop asking me for mine. And those are probably the people who most need Metro to flourish.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Oct 17, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Amen, brother!
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Got to agree with you
Metro is extremely cheap and pretty easy to get around the main parts of StL.
Plus I have a habit of saying no to all beggars
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I respect this, and I wouldn't want to give a pass to someone that is asking for one
but when I’m walking up to the booth and some random guy just hands me a ticket, no way I turn it down, especially as an out-of-towner.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course. I'm not soapboxing.
People should do what they want to do. I, oddly enough, do turn down the free ticket when it’s offered to me (more times than not, it’s a ticket-book at a discounted price).
On another note, I’d love to see a ‘Public Transit Day’ where the lots and garages around the stadium are closed and fans who arrive via bus or train get a voucher for a free hot dog or something..or a ticket for another weekday day game.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
I wonder if my wife is at home devising a plan to get me to a WS game.
That would be awesome.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i have decided if
I can get game 6 or 7 tickets for around 200 I might do it, even though it is financially irresponsible…
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 4:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Its the WS series. How many times have you been to a WS game?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Once, in 2005.
I was not impressed.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I wouldn't have been either.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
And I got to see the 14 inning Game 3
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I'm either coming back to St. Louis Thursday evening or Friday morning.
Kind of hoping there’s a rain out, so I can be in St. Louis for a Game Seven. It was an amazing scene downtown for the ’06 clincher.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
not meant to be a reply...
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
ohh it was meant...
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 17, 2011 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
so frustrating,i keep seeing the tickets and then when i try to buy them they're not available.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
things that make me sad:
My employer used to have season tickets here:
You could just ask for them and they’d be yours if available! But we gave them up a couple of years ago. Right now they’re listed on Stubhub at $5,000 a pop.
On the dugout steps?
Exotic and a great view, but not very comfortable.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
"Commissioner's Box"
Right next to the dugout, and just as far forward. It was kind of neat to have Sammy Sosa hanging out 15 feet to my left.
I was in Commissioner's Box this summer and Jaime was standing right next to me.
I kinda got a man-crush on him.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
The McCourts have reached a divorce settlement
Frank keeps the team, but Jamie gets Miles every other weekend and holidays.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
Lesson learned
Have a pre-nup, have a post-nup and make sure that your dumbass lawyer made sure every page of the post-nup is in every copy that is signed. If not, your wife will pretend to be ignorant about the post-nup’s intentions thanks to your dumbass lawyer……even though she was a previously practicing goddamn family law lawyer and she was the one who wanted your professional sports team to be separate property because she didn’t want the creditors, who provided the ridiculous leverage to said sports team, to come after her property.
Not afraid to nitpick
blame MLB and ESPN
there were story lines to be sold here and instead we got to hear about the BoSox Breakup.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yeap. They'd normally be happy if people thought the Yankees and Red Sox were the only teams to exist.
And leaving the NLCS on TBS didn’t help.
Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.
Solution: Move every team to New York
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Related: Jon Lester on beer and chicken
A Globe report last week cited team sources as saying Lester, Josh Beckett and John Lackey drank beer, ate fried chicken and played video games in the clubhouse on days they weren’t scheduled to pitch.
Lester did tell the paper “it was the wrong thing to do,” saying “it was a ninth-inning rally beer. We probably ordered chicken from Popeye’s like once a month. That happened. But that’s not the reason we lost.”
Funny, that’s what I call them too.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
This story is so painful
Stupid Boston and their smear campaigns anytime anyone leaves. I guarantee this stuff happens in every clubhouse all the time. Do people think that pitchers don’t drink alcohol when they have 4 days between starts? 4 days!
Not afraid to nitpick
So, stumbling around in the archives
I came across the gamethread of the late august game against the Dodgers where the Cardinals blew the game in the 9th via an Miles triple.
Curious, I ctrl+F’d “playoffs”, and found myself stating “We won’t be making the playoffs”
I like the current situation we are in, and I’ll eat as much delicious crow as possible if every season turned out this way.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
One more link, but I don't remember seeing this on here -- Cardinals.com ticket give away.
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/stl/social/sweeps/y2011/postseason/ws/site_entry.jsp
Never hurts to try.
Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.
by JStymie on Oct 17, 2011 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
When are the press conferences with the managers
curious to hear how they plan to line up their rotations
Wilson for Texas in Game 1
C.J. Wilson will start his third consecutive playoff Game One start in St. Louis for the opening game of the World Series.
"He’s my number one guy, nothing has changed," Rangers manager Ron Washington said.
Washington also said they had not planned out who would start Game Two.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
The biggest question...
what color will his bat be? Coordinate with the glove?
check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos
one of the most entertaining parts of the WS
watching AL pitchers swing a bat.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
never gets old
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
yeah that was a given
curious if they will go with Lewis game 2 with his home/road splits. I hope they don’t. Also if EJax or Lohse will go game 3 decides who gets two starts if it goes 7
I wondered that too
(posted it above and was dismissed with a “are we going there again?”)
I certainly would have picked Jackson for two games over Lohse, but, given his performance in the LCS, I wonder now. The Rangers have seen him this year (and did well against him), he’s more of a fly-ball pitcher, which can be bad news in their ballpark, but, he’s probably a better overall pitcher than Kyle.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 17, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Mothership with new video intro
Clark’s 3-HR in Game 6, 1985.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
I think it changes everytime you visit
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 17, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it wasn't in last weeks rotation.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It is October in St. Louis, and there is baseball to be played. - Red Baron
they also have pujols' home run from the other day now, too
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
It's a casino betting receipt.
Some dude bet 100k on the Cards to win the Series at 15/1 odds on 9/29.
Looking like better than 15 to 1 odds now.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
I wonder what the odds were on Aug. 29.
THAT would be one hell of a return on investment.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
that's the odds for a nlcs win.
world series win on the same day was +80000
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i should have just dropped a grand.
by my math i would have won a billion dollars.
no, but seriously, it would have been a lot.
betting hindsight always sucks.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
heh
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 17, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
well, the covers forum says
that st louis was 40000 to 1 to win the nlcs on september 6th, and someone bet $50 on the cardinals. here’s the link to the thread [nsfw avatars].
in thread someone called him a pussy and said he should have bet for a world series win at 80000 to 1 odds.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I've got to start watching the vegas odds more closely.
And start dropping one or two $20 bets a season on the crazy longshot odds.
Seriously, why do more people not do this? If I catch lightning in a bottle, I wipe out my student loans. If I miss, I skip a pizza or two. There’s no downside.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
the downside is that over a long period of time,
your chances of catching lightning in a bottle are terrible and your chances of being out several hundred pizzas are pretty good.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 17, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If I'm out $40 a year, I can handle that.
And I really shouldn’t be eating the pizzas anyway.
Of course, now Alxfritz tells me it’s only a 16k payday if I hit, rather than enough to change my life. tougher call.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Because you're catching an unbelievable amount of juice on those longshot bets
The real odds were probably more like 1500:1 or 2000:1.
If you call the Cards chances of making the playoffs at 150:1 (7.5 back…), winning the NLDS/NLCS/WS at 45% each, that’d be 1646:1 true odds and you’re getting paid for 800:1. There’s a reason casinos offer these types of bets, and it’s not because they are losing money on them.
Not afraid to nitpick
I get that,
but I’m not talking about trying to make money reliably by gambling the system. I’m talking about just trying to get lucky once, and when the odds are large enough – even at the discounted rates offered – that a “who gives a shit if I never see this [insert trivial amount of dollars based on the individual in question’s preferences] again” sized bet.
I guess maybe, then, more people than I think DO, in fact, do this, and Vegas has just figured out how to make them profitable.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
yes,
i was just informed. serves me right for thinking i know what i’m talking about.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
yeah.
but still. a guy who made a fifty dollar bet won 20,000. that’s pretty nuts.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
am I missing something?
50 X 800= 40,000
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
he bet on the nlcs, not the world series.
50 × 400 = 20,000
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
looks like a gambling receipt?
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 17, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa
Those are some stones, indeed.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
when your odds go from 15:1 to 3:1 or so
…you might.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
You're thinking with a different mindset than someone who has the cash to drop 100k on a 15/1 sports bet
That’s a rich person dick measuring contest.
Not afraid to nitpick
Short the NBA season
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Note to self:
One liners become ineffective when separated from object of ridicule by extensive gambling-discussion thread.
So Obama's a socialist mirite
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
not as much as you're a communist.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
it'll heat up tomorrow and wednesday.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
at the park? yes
if there was another one somewhere, no.
it was really cool. i’m hoping to have time tonight/tomorrow a.m. to write it up, but we’ll see. short version: we chanted a lot of things, and we could hear the players yelling in the clubhouse from outside, and then they came out and sprayed beer on us. and we all stayed until the stadium people threw up their hands and started turning off the lights.
umwat
RT @ESPN1220: Cards ace pitcher Chris Carpenter has a sore elbow and may not be available to start game 1 of World Series Wed.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
followed by...
RT @Weatherbird: “It’s nothing; I’m all good,” Chris Carpenter said when asked about his elbow
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i don't like that
where there’s smoke there is usually fire with that stuff. lets hope that isn’t the case here. i wouldn’t worry about carp making the start, but more his long term health
is it bad if i immediately thought "when's the TJ"
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
If there's any scenario out there
where you risk long term health for immediate satisfaction, we’ve pretty much reached it. I’m not saying there is, necessarily.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Also, I'm still voting ten for the confidence poll.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm not voting, so it goes down as a zero, correct?
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do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 17, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Are the tickets that occasionally pop up on the mothership all singles?
Or can I get a pair together?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 17, 2011 6:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i have been unable to get a pair
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
by IHeartBoog on Oct 17, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ok
I pulled the trigger on 2 SRO for ge 6 from stubhub last night….having some buyer’s remorse
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 17, 2011 6:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hope it's 3 games to 2 on the way back from Texas.
Then sell them and reap the rewards.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
why? its the world series! i dropped $1000 for game 6 tickets last night. i'm happy!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
dude.
i guess for your sake we should be hoping it gets to six games.
i just realised how much it would suck to have a flight to st. louis for no particular reason.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
that's why i would have done game 2.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
she said she couldn't afford to fly out this week
’cause tickets were astronomically more costly.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
ah.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
southwest has a deal running next week so it was just over $500 total for two flights.
but SW is awesome because if you don’t end up using your flight, you can apply the credit toward any other flight within a year. so basically everything i have is fully refundable in the event of a 4 or 5 game series.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
you never answered my question on how you liked that beatdown yesterday.
In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 17, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Buyer's remorse because now I'm wondering if I could have gotten better tikets
SRO scares me, won’t be able to get to the stadium 3 hours before gametime…worried I won’t be able to see anything
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 17, 2011 6:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
rec'd for unintentional hilarity
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
New Thread
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
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