early saturday thread/recap thread
by tom s. on Oct 15, 2011 2:52 AM EDT
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since today is a travel day as we wander back to miller field, i'll put up a temporary thread now, and put up a more substantive one midday/early afternoon tomorrow.
that game felt good to me pretty much all the way through. while jaime was not in complete lockdown mode all game, i thought he looked fine. while he only put in 5 innings, i thought that tony's early call to the bullpen was a clear case of tony deliberately choosing to push his bullpen rather than distrust of his starter.
i really don't hate the bullpen usage in the unique context of the postseason. tony knew he had a travel day today to rely on. and the bullpen has looked very comfortable in the postseason. motte pulled off another 4-out save (yes, due to the intricacies of the save rule, that 7-1 victory counts as a save.) it may be profane to think forward while we are enjoying a postseason run that falls just this side of miraculous, but i keep thinking that the bullpen's success is guaranteeing that tony will have some faith in salas and motte in 2012 - with some room for rzepczynski, sanchez, and lynn to play a real role in the pen ( ignoring the notion that we might be able to do away with westbrook and put lynn or zep in the rotation). i am also inclined to think that the sparing usage of boggs and mcclellan makes it more likely we see dotel return than see either pitching in april. tony seems to rely on his "feel" for his players as much as their actual statistics. and the postseason seems like a great place to give tony a good "feel" for you.
the other player who seems to have seriously affected tony's "feel" for him in the post season is long-suffering adron chambers. while he shouldn't anticipate any starting time absent injury, i think he's written into the outfield bench in pen. given how he's watched andrew brown and corey patterson take up time in the outfield, he should feel great relief. i also note that it can't possibly hurt that the guy shows tremendous spirit; he's visibly excited to be with the team, and always seems to have an enormous, infectious grin on his face. he's fun to watch in huge disproportion to his talent.
back to the game: i thought there was little to complain about on the offensive end. it felt a little bit like yesterday, except with hits strung together just right, rather than abandoning dozens of players on the basepaths. 4 errors from the brewers helped make the scoring happen. all this good performance and good fortune made the game one of the only games i've felt we totally controlled. it's a great way to return to miller park, needing only to take one of the next 2 games.
gripe: there was a terriffic baseball game today, and i tried to find some postgame coverage that would analyze the game a few hours later. nothing. college football? sure. college basketball? yeah. hockey? you bet. discussions of a nonexistent nba season? oddly, yes. baseball, nothing. i had to watch half of sportscenter before i saw a baseball. these are two of the best teams in baseball playing a very dramatic series. it would be nice to see the national sports media show some interest.
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great post
i can relate to the national media thing. those time when all you want to do is see birds highlights and they tease you break after break and then maybe do a blip, or that rare occasion(not in playoffs) they just show the boxscore…yuck.
I’m hoping ejax goes at least 6 innings
because TLR
matchups
Sunday: Jackson vs Marcum
Monday: Carpenter vs Gallardo
’twould be very nice indeed to win game 6
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
indeed
but the way things have been going (from an ongoing narrative standpoint) it would be totally appropriate for it to go 7 and culminate with a Carp vs. other-team’s-ace winner-take-all rubber match…
F^@& the narrative. I want a game 6 W.
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
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Additionally
it would be kinda nice to have Carp pitching game 1 of the thing-we-don’t-mention-that-happens-after-the-NLCS, rather than (possibly?) Kyle Lohse.
I wonder if, in the event of their not being a game 7, we might even go Carp then Jaime in the first two games. Is there a two day break before it starts if we don’t go to 7 games?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions
the Whatchumacallit Series is supposed to start Wednesday,
and Jaime should be 5 days rested by then, so he’ll at least be ready, assuming Tony doesn’t use him in relief for some reason in Milwaukee.
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
Best guess
(oh god I hope this isn’t GOB baiting..)
If Carp doesn’t pitch on Monday (how’s that for not stating it outright) the theoretical rotation for the theoretical thingamajig would likely be: Carp, Jaime, Ejax, Lohse, Carp, Jaime, Ejax (both of Jaime’s starts at home).
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 15, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
If it really followed the narrative we would win on a Carp CGSO in game 7
Lining him up to pitch game 3 in the world series and then pitch another CGSO in game 7 if the WS completing the long road with a Carp must win CGSO to complete the season and each series against four different teams in four different parks with the only one not requiring a happy flight being the only one where they wouldn’t fly to play another series anyway and the Cardinals finally end the joyous exodus where they belong, at home. Nothing follows a narrative THAT well
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 15, 2011 9:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the narrative doesn't need to be backs-against-the-wall.
I propose that the REAL narrative should be, this team wins all its games before travel days. The real story here is #happyflight.
And since winning game 6 would conveniently turn Monday into a travel day, there you go.
I didn't want Jaime facing the Deputy in the 5th
And Dotel got ’em.
I was watching at a noisy place with satellite hockey games on TVs everywhere—is it true that Garcia had struck out Hart in the 5th only to have the ump call him back for a faux-foul ball?
by olddomination on Oct 15, 2011 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions
There was a foul tip that Tony argued about
but without looking at the tape, I thought that was for strike 2, not strike 3.
It was on 0-2 foul that Yadi couldn't hang on to.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
to me it looked like he completely swung and missed and it just fell out of yadis glove.
i could be wrong though
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 15, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I just rewatched it.
It hit the handle of the bat and went straight down.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
national media can kiss our collective midwest ass
the teams that earned going to the LCS are playing it. deal with it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 15, 2011 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I might have left Garcia in to get the third out,
but I can hardly argue with the results. La Russa is aggressively managing to win. And going to a good bullpen early, in high leverage situations, makes baseball since. Unlike his buddy Jim Leyland, La Russa now seems to be managing to with this game. Leyland is always saving a pitcher or two for the future.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
I thought the Garcia yank was perfectly fine, tbh
he’d had a pretty concerning recent record of cruising to 80 pitches or so and then starting to struggle, and I wonder if pitching (by some distance) the most innings he’s ever thrown in a season has something to do with that. We had a tough righty up as the tying run (Braun) and, in Dotel, one of the two or three best pitchers on either team at getting right handers out. To me it made a lot of sense, even though if Dotel had failed it probably means bringing in Scrabble to face Fielder (who was on deck, I think?) and then taxing the bullpen a lot more heavily in the last 4 innings (I guess he might let Scrabble pitch on, but otherwise it likely means a Boggs or KMac appearance somewhere, which he’s not been too keen to do this post-season).
Less convincing, IMO, were the decisions to let Lynn hit for himself in the7th (although his results haven’t been great, I really think the difference in quality between Lynn for 1 or 2 outs and Boggs for 1 or 2 outs in the 8th is much smaller than the difference in quality between Lynn and a pinch-hitter with two men on base) and the bizarre decision to have Punto bunt (?) to force in a run on a possible Jaime GB when the pitcher was on deck. That was a real head-scratcher. Both kinda-justabout worked, in that we won and nothing disastrous happened, but to me both moves were pretty clearly sub-optimal.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 5:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm so confident in our bullpen right now
with the way they are mowing batters down while doing it with reasonable pitch counts and plenty of rest days in between appearances. they have shortened the game so much.
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
For me, Rzep in particular has been nails
it seems to have been so long since we’ve had a lefty (who can also get righties out) that you can throw the ball to when the big lefty mashers are up and strike them out. Big thing to have.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget that two years ago
Garcia was rehanging from Tommy John, so the worn out thing wouldn’t surprise me
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 15, 2011 9:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
rehanging?
that’s a new one
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
we don't drag ours.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Garcia
had a zero chance of getting out Braun when he was pulled. It was just a matter of how far is he going to hit it.
I loved so many of the decisions, twas cruising on a real TLR high,
and then to remind me I was flying too close to the sunglasses he goes and has Lynn hit for himself.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 15, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
but that's a rite of passage for the bullpen
millions of children believe this.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
rec'd for "flying too close to the sunglasses"
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I hated for Jaime
that he couldn’t get the win, but it was most certainly the safe play to bring in Dotel. The sad part, looking back, is that Jaime could have been sailing into the sixth (where he, of course, may have had trouble) if Albert had been able to hang on to that hump-back liner by Lucroy.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 15, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Lynn batting for himself was weird
Tony definitely got away with that one.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
It was a low leverage at bat -
LI of 0.19.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 15, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
sure
but Lynn came back out for the top of the next inning and went 1B-BB-FC to Hart/Hairston/Braun. That could have gone much worse than it did. Zep had to come in and face Fielder w/ runners at the corners and one out (LI 1.72, even w/ the 4-run lead).
That’s what I was getting at, not that it was a big deal that the Cards didn’t score in the bottom of the 7th.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
no one's said Ankiel yet?
so I’ll say it. Ankiel.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Also nice to see
despite the fact they’ve basically totally ignored us all season, a few articles on fangraphs about some of our unsung heroes this year (Craig & Lynn both featured in the last two days). And it only took all-but-four of the MLB teams to be eliminated in order to do it!
Still bitching to contact.
My wife, who is a Red Sox fan, even agreed that
there seems to be a bit of bias toward, at the least, ignoring us. If it seems that way to a Boston fan, we can’t be totally imagining it. Of course, she also told me that we should expect the Cubs to win a WS now that they have hired Theo. Silly girl……
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
i listen to a lot of 101 ESPN on my way to, from and during work
and during the non-local programming when they do sportscenter updates, the Cards are routinely never mentioned when they run through the scores
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 15, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Another question
can we put Sanchez back on the roster if we win this series, or are rosters basically decided now? I can’t remember how it works with injuries and re-setting the rosters. If there’s any chance he can pitch presumably he makes some sense if TLR doesn’t want to use the likes of KMac, Boggs and Westbrook in any given scenario.
Still bitching to contact.
I thought...
… the WS roster has to be the same as the LCS roster, barring injury. But then Schumaker was talking about coming back for the WS so maybe not.
I do believe...
that unless a player is DL’d (like Schumaker), and continues to be on the 40 man roster, they are elligible. In other words, if Shit Crapmaker is ready to go in the WS, he can go, since he wasn’t DL’d.
If a player is a DL’d in the playoffs, I do believe he has to miss the series, and the next one.
Someone correct me and/or confirm please.
BEAT MARCUM… BADLY… PLEASE!
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 15, 2011 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
McClellan hasn't been used since game one
Maybe he’s hurt?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 15, 2011 9:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ye olde dead arm
or so i heard
a really nonspecific injury
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 15, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he's just the last guy in the pen, like Westbrook was
Break in case of emergency, nothing else.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 15, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You are correct.
If Schu was dl’d in the middle of the NLCS, he would have to be left off of the WS roster. Since he was left off the roster, he could be put back on for the next series. Which we won’t make you bastard GOBs.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Schu already has a ring, doesn't he? I don't think he minds.
after all, he’s now squirrel-famous.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
ya, he was on the '06 team.
4th outfielder.
Those were the days.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
somewhere he's checking his gloves and muttering
‘anything for the team, anything, anything for the team, anything for the team, yeah, team, team, team…’
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he was about the 6th or 7th OF
and correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recall him being on the postseason roster (of course he got a win for playing a couple of games down the stretch), or if he was he didn’t play in the postseason. We had Duncan, Encarnacion, Edmonds as the (usually) starting OF, with some Preston Wilson against lefties, some So Taguchi mostly as a defensive sub and Scott Spiezio on the roster too. No room for SKip in the postseason I don’t think. And in the regular season I remember John Rodriguez playing more than Skippy.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I think you're right.
I just did a quick check and saw he was on the roster. He may have just been a September callup, tbh.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
You don't need to be on the WS roster to get a ring
IIRC, in 2006 rings were given out to just about anyone remotely associated with the 2006 team.
I’d be willing to bet that, unless they massively burned all the bridges, Colby, Franklin, Miller, Tallet, etc. would all get rings if some unspecified occurrence happens in the near future.
yeah, it's not according to the club.
the $ shares are voted on by the players, but the rings are official IIRC.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
right, those "extras" are at the club's discretion
like the ones to gibby, brock, oz, etc.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
i feel like i should do a wiki trip.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm pretty sure any player who played for the club during the year is eligible:
Remember the whole Bengie Molina thing last year:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=sh-molina102410
“Talk about having your bases covered. Bengie Molina(notes) would get a World Series championship ring regardless of whether the Texas Rangers or San Francisco Giants win it all. He is about to become the first catcher in baseball history to appear in the Fall Classic against a team he played for earlier in the season.
Molina is the Rangers’ catcher, a savvy veteran whose three-run home run in Game 4 of the American League Championship Series was critical to knocking off the Yankees.
Molina also was the Giants’ catcher from 2007 until July 1 of this year, when he was traded to Texas for reliever Chris Ray(notes) and minor leaguer Michael Main. Ray, a reliever who pitched credibly for both teams, also could end up with a ring regardless who wins, although the Giants haven’t put him on their playoff rosters."
eligible, yes. my question is what amount of playing time is necessary for it be REQUIRED. if, even, such a thing exists.
and this is all ponies over the rainbow at this point anyway. probably better to drop it.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
franklin prob no
but colby, miller spent half a season here. they should get those things that you get after you win that thing we dont talk about
see Molina, B.
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 15, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
they'd give Franky one
he was, after all, on the team for a long time and occasionally useful (prior to 2011, or maybe 2010, that is).
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 15, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
In '06 Jose Vizcaino and Hector Luna each got one.
On the team, get a ring even if your only contribution aside from luck and being terrible is a rain out “start” against the Reds
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 15, 2011 2:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The concern is
If we go to WS, how in the hell are we going to handle the three lefties that Texas can throw at us?
If they throw harder than Wolf, we'll be fine.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I prefer to look at it.....
as hour is Texas’ lefties going to handle having to pitch to AP, Holliday, Freese, Moline, and in some cases, Craig?
Holland is pretty hit or miss, Wilson has been getting smashed in the playoffs
To me the bigger concern would be their pen. Ogano, Adams, Feliz…
Cards pattern recently has been
score runs early and then hold on.
At least we can reasonably expect TLR to figure out that Cruz needs to be pitched around….
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Yes, Sanchez can be put on the WS roster,
without pulling any shenanigans, as he was on the DL at the 8/31 deadline. Waino could as well.
If he were able to miraculously recover in the next three days.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
he caught all three ceremonial pitches
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
VEB would melt SBN's servers if Waino went on the roster.
Sounds like fun.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 15, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
who? oh you mean Dr. Wainwright.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Our best chance against a team like Tejas
is to continue go with this 5 and fly strategy with the starters. Especially in Arlington, I just don’t have much confidence that EJax Lohse or Jaime will be able to have much success.
That is why if Sanchez is healthy enough you have to put him on and get rid of KMac. Right now Dotel, Salas, Lynn, and Motte are all pretty lights out, but we won’t be able to use all of them everyday. An effective Sanchez would be huge.
Kmac needs to be a warm-up buddy and that's it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR...
… has made 23 pitching changes in 45 innings so far in this series (per Bernie), and he can really only be faulted for not making one or two more (eg Game 1). The guy is re-inventing the playoff pitching staff right in front of our eyes, and he’s going with retreads (Dotel, Rhodes), marginal starters (Boggs, Lynn), a couple of kids, and a converted catcher. It’s weird. And yet every move he makes has sense and almost all of them have worked.
We got a bit lucky last night with the errors, but even if you subtract the unearned runs we still out-scored them. That said, I think we need at least one HR to win a game in WI. I’m thinking Puma and Yadi are due.
That is the question...
… is TLR reinventing the idea of a championship team?
Is this something new we are watching OR is it a anomaly?
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 15, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
It's just SSS
In an alternate universe these pitching choices could have been disasterous, but we’re having a bit of luck right now. There are many, many decisions that TLR has been making that would be worth 500 comments in these threads if they weren’t panning out. Remember all that head-shaking all year long on Tony’s bizarre lineup construction and pitching changes — I’m happy to chuckle as he seems to have the golden touch right now
Just win
Playoffs are always a small sample size
LaRussa’s pitching moves are generally guided by how he feels about each individual pitcher—if he trusts a guy, he’ll be more prone to leave him in or bring him in. But the current effectiveness of bringing in a fresh arm early against a highly offensive team can’t be dismissed simply by SSS or by luck. Right now, he’s working with a bullpen he likes and that is, since September, performing. Any manager of a playoff team with a strong bullpen is taking notes right now…
SSS
I was walking around today and kicking around the notion of SSS as it relates to “baseball,” meaning the regular season, and SSS as it relates to the post season.
“Go crazy folk!…
Tom Lawless flipping his bat"
Isn’t that the beauty of playoff baseball?
It doesn’t matter who was better in the statistically relevant large sample of the regular season…
it matters who is better RIGHT NOW.
This is what keeps me coming back every year… isn’t it?
Really… when Ozzie hit that letf-handed homer… he wasn’t “all glove,” “good situational second in the order hitter”…
he was Babe Ruth.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 15, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
that is exactly my point
sabrmetrics, which I am totally down on, don’t entirely go out the window during the playoffs, but don’t we look for someone to do something they aren’t “supposed to”?
The playoffs are a SSS. The team the receives the most contributions opposite their regular season numbers… aren’t these the heroes?
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 15, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how well it will work in the long run.
It seems to me, that for the most part, all that you have to do to shut down the Brewers, is shut down the 3,4,5. They really aren’t very deep beyond that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I don't think so. The Brewers have a pretty potent O beyond 3, 4, 5.
Hairston and Yuni and OPSing at 0.955 and 0.900 in the LCS. Hart is not doing great right now, but has hurt us in the past and has power as the lead off. We need to be pitching carefully to the entire lineup especially in the South African Brewery park.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
now tell us what hairston and yuni OPS'd in the regular season
by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Why pj,
It appears to be .727 and .652, respectively.
Also fun with numbers, JH managed .727 with both the Nats and the brewers this year. .342/.385 and .348/.379.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
basically skip and eriot.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
brewers line up is preety deep
second best offense in the NL for a reason.
Grit != flat out sucking.
They're not super deep, but it's not all Braun and Fielder.
but Morgan gets on base, & Weeks and Hart are good hitters.
They have a very good 1-5.
Even the bottom of the lineup isn't (or shouldn't be) terrible
Hairston’s a decent 6/7 hitter, and even though he’s been terrible this series, Lucroy isn’t a bad option for a catcher in the 8 spot.
Yuni, however, brings shame upon his family, team, and country every time he steps into the batter’s box.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 15, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Hairston puzzles me. He's clearly hitting well right now, and has been a reasonably effective pest hitter in the past,
but last year he OBP’d .299!
Lucroy hasn’t impressed me much, but yeah, his numbers aren’t bad for a catcher. Do you all have high hopes for him long-term? I really don’t think anything about him.
The thing people forget with Lucroy
Is that this year was supposed to be his rookie year – he essentially skipped AAA last year because of Gregg Zaun’s injury. He looked lost at times last year but made some big strides this year, both offensively and defensively.
I think we expect him to be more or less what he was this year – a cheap, league-average catcher, which is a pretty valuable piece for a small-market team.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 15, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I know you'all have been on Yuni the whole season
but he has been surprisingly good w/O in the playoffs. Didn’t he drive in the tying run vs. D-backs in game 5?
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
doesn't make up for a career of suckage
yesterday was more like good ole Yuni. couple first pitch pop ups , another on the second pitch
Series so far
I haven’t found this series as good as the Philly series. Pitching hasn’t been as good, lots of errors and I can’t get excited about the Brewers as a team — when I look at them versus the Phillies, I don’t understand how they won 96 games. They seem like more of an 85-90 win team to me.
I’m expecting big things out of Jackson tomorrow. I feel like if he can get through the first inning, he’ll hold them for 7 innings. I think this guy is very close to being a shutdown pitcher. If we could find a way to ditch Lohse and Westbrook, I’d love to sign him to a longer term contract as a solid number 2-3 behind Waino and Carp
Just win
it's because they were so ridiculously good at home
it’s almost like they were cheating or something
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 15, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
The Brewers beat their pythag by a fair margin I think
(in fact IIRC we both had similar pythag records) so maybe they got a bit lucky. They also got better pitching out of Marcum most of the year than they have done recently, and have a pretty strong bullpen (which we haven’t seen much of this series). I reckon they’re probably about a 90-win team, all else being equal.
Sadly I can’t see a way we’ll keep him and get rid of either Lohse or Westy – they’re just too expensive (and Lohse has a NTC). I think he was signed strictly as a rental. We should get a supplemental draft pick for him, though.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
two words: Boras client
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
actual/pythag
MIL 96-66 / 90-72
STL 90-72 / 88-74
MIL was +6, STL was +2.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Second-order win% is probably more accurate
MIL 96-66 / 93.5-68.5
STL 90-72 / 89.5-72.5
MIL +2.5, STL +.5. Same general trend, though both teams come out looking better.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 15, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
"big things"
be moar specific
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
just checkin
given that “big innings” for pitchers….
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
They won 96 games for the same reason the Cards won 90.
Besides those two teams, the Central was awful this year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the first half Pirates want to have a word with you
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 15, 2011 1:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The brewers and the Cardinals only won because we were awful?
Seems they were able to handle the best the other NL divisions were able to throw at them
Grit != flat out sucking.
MIL & STL were a combined 42-27 vs the NL East this year....
45-29 if you count the NLDS.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I was convinced the Cards couldn't win in STL without an appearance
by the squirrel, which left me momentarily confused until I realized that Jason Motte is a shapeshifter. He has the ability to change himself into the squirrel. Jason Motte is the the squirrel! This is why we won games 3 and 5.
… I also think Jason Motte is a werewolf in the offseason.
Motte
is absolutely amazing right now with his control. Hitting the corners
with a 98mph fastball, getting ahead and finishing off hitters with that
high fastball with hop on it.
people say his fasball is too stait, no movement but I know what it looks like
facing it. It looks like it is jumping at you and picks up speed at the last moment.
Sandy Kofax had flat fastball but nobody could get around on it. So did Clemens.
by ridgesee on Oct 15, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Clemens had a very serious split finger fastball
to keep hitters off balance.
He didn't in game 7 of the 2004 NLCS
heh
Some people just need a high five. In the face. With a chair.
Axford was throwing 98-99 on Thursday,
and it looked slow compared to Motte.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
crazy people can do that to ya
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Axford can't
change himself into a squirrel. Motte is more powerful.
yeah, some guys are like that, i don't know how to explain it
jordan walden for example throws 100 and hitters routinely get around on it. its the softest 100 i have ever seen
I think it's about his delivery
looks to me like Motte hides the ball very well.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
His control is excellent as well
not many guys who can hit three digits have Jason Motte’s control IMO. I don’t think he’ll ever be a real “top 5 relief pitcher in baseball”-type pitcher because there’s still not much there other than a fastball, but seems like he’s really got the hang of what he’s doing on the mound this year and looks very poised most of the time.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Boggs
throws almost as fast as Motte and actually has a second pitch (OK slider) but always seems to look uber-hittable.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
absolutely.
98 hitting every corner of the plate, coaxing swings on shoulder high heat, it’s a thing of beauty/
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 15, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that's like a human squirrel
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 15, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I know. I guess it's probably a video people might've seen before but I literally had no idea that anything like that was possible, let alone that it'd been done over a decade ago.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
if, in the event that the cards ever reach the watchamacallit series
they should hire this person to wear a squirrel costume and climb the scoreboard during the 7th inning stretch
Nyjer Morgan Fan Club President
by peppermartin on Oct 15, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
eeehhh
I would be okay with Fredbird donning some squirrel ears.
he’s creepy enough as it is
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
he died a couple of years ago, IIRC
:(
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
yes, in a high-risk accident involving bungee cords and rock climbing, I think
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
I think
This 1.12 is even more impressive.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 15, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
four Cards in the top 7 of the MVP vote. Impressive!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
based on SSS
we should have lost to the Phillies…
embrace the statistical nonsense of it
baseball is beauty that can’t be quantified.
If the beauty of baseball could be measured I would have given up the game long ago.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
It's not just the national media not giving a fuck
it’s also this supposed “baseball town”. When the cards where charging in september all the main bar tvs and audio were on pre-season football. It’s like this every season.
Good luck trying to watch the world series when the cards aren’t involved at all. One year I had the brilliant idea to go to baseball player owned bars (Ozzies, Pujols 5) and still had to deal with hand egg on all the main tvs.
I missed a shitton of innings going from bar to bar seeing if anybody was playing the game during SNF/MNF, College Football, and UFC (yes, UFC as in Affliction, outranks cardinal playoffs in this “baseball town”).
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
you know, they sell televisions at nearly any retail outlet.
give one a buy!
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 15, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
they don't come with taps though
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
paging RiverRat
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone should have one!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Or girls in slutty outfits...
And I fucking HATE being at home.
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
girls in slutty outfits can also be in your home.
maybe then you wouldn’t hate it so bad.
things you can legally have in your home:
1. television
2. a keg
3. girls in slutty outfits
the last two aren’t my thing, necessarily, but it sounds like these things, in your case, in the comfort of your own home, would provide temporary happiness. :-)
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
rocKStrak is just as likely to dress in a slutty girl outfit himself
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
rocKStark is just as likely to dress in a slutty girl outfit himself
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
SBN'd
it didn’t show that it posted the first one
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
not just as likely...most definitely.
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Is rocKStark5 a "herself" instead of "himself"
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 15, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
at times.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
pleae defy statistics...
and win five more games!!!!!
are they “best team”? No.
But win anyway!
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
"please"
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 15, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
screw it
if we win, we’re the best team. We have the trophy, so everybody else can just suck it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
have you ever been to brew crew ball?
it is really nasty.
I think after Prince leaves after this year, they will lose most of their “contributers,” and it will return to being an actual baseball blog.
I hope so, anyway, There are some totally cool people there who are interested in understanding baseball. They’re just getting drowned out by the brewer “fans,”
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
I myself am trying to ignore them for the most part
Inter-blog feuds are not my thing
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 15, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I never thought about them
but after the Phils, I began going to their site since they were “next.”
I’ve been avoiding taking part on VEB for a number of reasons that have nothing to do with the site itself and one or two to do with the changes to… whatever
but honestly, BCB is not a serious baseball discussion. maybe that is better. i don;t know.
just sayin…
I live in China and miss talkin baseball with kindred spirits. VEB doesn’t let me down entirely, but BCB… honestly,…
no shit…
I wish Americans liked each other the same way Chinese people… anyway, I’m drunk.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 15, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Guatemala, Britain, Texas...
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 15, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Howard posts on VEB?!
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Oct 15, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Ryan Howard is from St Louis????
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Thailand (hope all's ok with you), Chile, Kathmandu...
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 15, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
talk about a third world country
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I am when I'm within 3 hours of a certified metropolitan area.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
you can all go piss up a rope.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
he did.........to another part of Montana
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
then who the hell was saying he moved to Colorado?
And why? Sounds like Cody.
oh wait
Still not a werewolf.
I think he took a vacation to Colorado.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember that.
An SBN search indicates that Y2S is probably the culprit. Cody also spread the rumor.
Still not a werewolf.
Yes, I've picked up a couple of times that I'd moved to CO.
Somebody must have jumped to conclusions, that since I switched jobs, and went to see the birdos in CO at the same time, that I must’ve moved to CO. I have not. I moved to Butte, which is my hometown, and 60 miles from where I was living.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ha...
I haven’t seen that before.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yes, it was me, in the basement, with the ballpoint pen
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Did you murder Ghostrider?
I just checked and he hasn’t logged in since the first of August.
Still not a werewolf.
now why would I do anything to a braintwin who says exactly what I think and also presses post at the same time
so, blogged any links lately?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh, you don't have to be
but VEB on the other hand….
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we may have some genitive issues here.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...are you saying I should put some on?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wait, it seems clank has my pants.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Oh for the love of all things in the world, but on SOMEBODY'S pants.
Or at least sew up that hole in your underwear.
don't have the right thread.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
just as long as we don't have any damned Canadians or Dutch
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I was seriously considering posting a quote here from Blazing Saddles, but I honestly didn't know how it'd go over.
Anyway…..the quote ends with…
“Aw, prairie shit……Everybody!!!!”
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
that's a great line
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
There are two kinds of people I hate in this world...
people who are inconsiderate of other peoples feelings…and the Dutch!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 15, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
"VEB doesn't let me down entirely"
This should go on the site marquee.
by StillLostinNC on Oct 15, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was something about beta males
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
if it is any consolation...
I think the VEB community, for all of its vulgar inside jokes and general snobishness, is actually essentially within the grasp of the normal sports dude/dudette.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 15, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
any site where it only takes 3 recs to go green
is not a worthy site to visit
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 15, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That place is a really dark pit of hatred
for all things Cardinal. It is very ugly. You could turn into a demon if you spend much time there.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
Yeah, FakeBCB is a foetid pit.
One of their regulars, Cheeseandcorn has been over here a fair amount during the series. He’s (?) a good guy. Not like them at all.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 15, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
stay classy, my friend.
no matter how the series turns out, you will be a fond memory that other teams have good and knowledgeable baseball fans, too.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 15, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Just checked it out
that is a fanbase that is ready to jump off a cliff. They have no confidence in their manager or in Marcum.
Go Cards!
I got no beefs with them
I post over there from time to time. Never really have any problems.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think BCB The Sequel is a bad blog
I’ve been skimming over there. Of course they hate us right now.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I think what you're seeing is a really desperate fan base.
I think the two fan bases are in totally different places psychologically right now. This is the farthest the Brewers have been in the playoffs in my lifetime. (I’m 27.) The Cardinals, on the other hand, have been this far six times since 2000. And given where they were at the beginning of September, the Cards are playing with house money right now – after that crazy run to get in, anything they did after making the playoffs was going to be gravy.
But for Brewers fans, this really feels like our last, best chance to do something significant with this core of players (though I and many at BCB think the Brewers will at least be competitive next year). That feeling really injects a lot of urgency and desperation into Brewers fans that you just aren’t seeing at VEB.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 15, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
I think you've just nailed the issue right here.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 15, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you hit the nail on the head
Wisconsin is good people and they hate the cubs with us, but in a franchise whose seemingly whole history is pride in a WS loss with Feilder about to leave and some rentals they can feel the window closing, possibly to the same team that denied them the WS championship in ‘82. I’m sure that’s a rough feeling
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 15, 2011 12:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would probably be losing my shit if I was a Brewers fan
I can live with bad hitting and pitching. But bad fielding just puts me over the top. They just seem like they are blowing chances.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 15, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Last night was a classic “laugh to keep from screaming” kind of game.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 15, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
We can totally sympathize w/you'all
Before (and a few times even after) we got Happy Flight, our middle infield D was painful to watch. It was really disconcerting to see how it impacted the pitching. Greinke really got screwed.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Fielder may be leaving....
But slugging first basemen aren’t that hard to come by, and your rotation isn’t going to fall apart next year. I don’t see the Brewers going away with current ownership / management. There may be down moments, but I can see them chugging along like the Cardinals. After 07 everyone thought we were done…. But the cardinals have strong organization, and were able to bounce back. I believe the brewers are in the same situation.
Grit != flat out sucking.
the problem for the Brewers starting next year
is they have traded off a lot of their farm system. I don’t even know off-hand who the obvious replacement for Fielder is. They’re probably going to need to look for a third baseman, too. Their pitching looks to be in good shape, I think, so maybe they’ll try to lean on Braun, Weeks & Hart for offense and try to be more of a pitching-first team.
/idle speculation
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I hope so
But he is deep inside the organization’s doghouse. I think he may get the first shot at the first-base job in spring training and April, but he’ll be given a pretty short leash.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 15, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Several reasons, not all of which have been explicitly stated by the team
Mostly, it seems to boil down to a lack of commitment to offseason and preseason training, laziness on defense, and a generally less-than-stellar attitude. Don Money, his AAA manager, has ripped him publicly several times for that, and I think his word carries a lot of weight with the org. Ken Macha didn’t like him, either.
As for alternatives, it’ll probably be some sort of one- or two-year, low-risk guy like Pena, as Flim said. A lot of us thought Berkman would have been perfect, but that’s obviously out the window now.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 15, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see Pena, that makes sense
(Imagine being Brian Cashman right now, watching Berkman getting deep in the postseason….)
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Aramis Ramirez?
doubtful he returns to Chicago
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 15, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
the thing is
that was the problem with the brewers the last time they were in the playoffs. They used up all their bullets and now their farm system is done. Next thing you know, they are able to make moves to bring in Greinke and K-Rod to push them to a 96 win season.
I don’t assume anyone’s farm system is bad. I don’t pay enough attention. But lot of people say ours is bad…
and yet we keep producing guys like, Jay, Craig, Motte, Sanchez, Salas, Boggs, Lynn, Freese (sorta), Chambers, and we have guys like Miller, Martinez, Cox, Wang, etc… still down in the minors.
Grit != flat out sucking.
K Rod was purely taking advantage of the salary thing
what did they give up for Greinke other than Escobar I can’t remember
Lorenzo Cain, Jake Odorizzi, and Jeremy Jeffress
The Brewers can live without Cain and Jeffress, but they may really be wishing they still had Odorizzi a few years from now.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 15, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
they may miss odorizzi
but the key is to keep having good drafts and develop good players. Both for affordable good players at the majors, or as trade chips to feel in gaps.
Grit != flat out sucking.
The Brewers have legitimately the worst or second worst farm system in baseball right now
and we’re probably in the lower reaches of the top ten. So whoever tells you otherwise is kinda wrong.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
makes a whole lot of sense
As an aside, does the average Brewer fan, OK maybe I shouldn’t say average, does the knowledgeable Brewer fan have any hopes that they resign Fielder?
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 15, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
No chance – and we’ve known that since before this season started. Most Brewer fans don’t really hold it against him – we know he’s a Boras client, and that’s just what Boras clients do.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 15, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, a few weeks ago he said in passing that this was going to be his last year
The national media and some casual Brewers fans freaked out about it a bit, but most everyone who’s been following the team knew there was no way he was coming back long before Prince actually said so.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 15, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I figured
on the game broadcasts once or twice they’ve said stuff like “if he comes back” or “if Fielder leaves” I figured they were just saying that because they had to, not ’cause they thought there was any chance of him NOT leaving.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 15, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i think they're suffering from a huge fairweather influx
kind of like what’s going on here. that kind of thing would inevitable drag the quality of commenting down
probably not the most representative time to draw conclusions about a community
by prophetjohn on Oct 15, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else at the game last night?
Great game and great atmosphere. Only one complaint. We need to have a public service announcement on when to and not to use a rally towel.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
wildly jealous
i haven’t been to a playoff game since ’85.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 15, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah... dunno why they are using rallyt towel when we are pitching in a pressure situation haha
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 15, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
morans
especially those behind home plate
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
easy.
when TO use a rally towel: never
when NOT to use a rally towel: always
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 15, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
sounds like big government to me.
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 15, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i witnessed some jackass trying to start the wave
He had the section next to us starting it and then Nyjer GIDP and everyone went crazy and killed the wave. Same dickbag came back later trying to get it going and everyone basically ignored him. I stared at him and shook my head ala Lee Trevino in Happy Gilmore.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
we may have been paid back for 09. see, time-delay.
Referring to his diving catch that robbed Nick Punto before Garcia’s grounder went through his legs, Hairston said, "To be honest with you, I really didn’t see both balls that well.
“Even when I caught it, I was a little surprised. I don’t know if it was the white towels (being waved in the stands) or the white uniforms (of the Cardinals). I didn’t see them that great. I still caught it; it may have caught me a little bit.”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
here's a nice little read, if you're looking for some cardinals stories.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2011/story/_/id/7103882/tony-la-russa-pushing-right-buttons
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
FYI
When Lance Berkman says this
If this were the regular season, I’d have been shocked. But since this is the postseason, I’m not. He catches a lot of flak for making so many different pitching changes. But these matchups are important. And one at-bat — especially like that at-bat in the fifth inning — is huge. So I totally understand. It’s better to make a move too soon than too late.He’s not wearing a shirt. There was some demand for this bit of information last night.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
how cab anyone hate berkman?
“It’s great. He keeps pointing right at me,” right fielder Lance Berkman said, laughing. “I’m a big part of those pitching changes. Tony likes me.”
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Oct 15, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I hope he gets into announcing when he's done as a player
I bet he’d be great at it.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I think he'll be great at coaching or announcing
Is he in Cooperstown if he has another monster season next year?
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
I think he's borderline right now
if he has another year like this one he probably goes.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I hope so. One of the best three hitters in baseball for much of his career, and an under-rated fielder.
Pretty cool guy too.
I was trying to work out which other Astros were in the hall other than Nolan Ryan, and was kinda surprised that Joe Morgan was in as an Astro. I always assumed he was in as a Red (in fact I don’t think I even realised he played for the ’Stros).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Morgan went in as a Red.
He came up with the Astros (Colt .45s) and was traded to Cincy for Lee May. He came back to Houston briefly (1980?).
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Then wikipedia, shock horror, has provided me with lame-ass info!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 16, 2011 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Wiiiiinns. WIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNSSS.
WE CRAVE WIIIIIIINNNNNSSSSS!!
Man the zombie cards won’t give up in spite of our starting pitching not giving us a bunch of innings.
It’s interesting to watch TLR make up bullpen roles as he goes along. Sometime in September he started using Motte as a fireman, bringing him in early a few times to stop rallies with men on base. Then he used Salas a time or 2 in that role in the playoffs. And now it’s Dotel, at least against right handed hitters. Wild.
what happened was Carp said let's not embarrass ourselves, let's do it for the fans
the fans want
MOAR BASEBALL
so … moar baseball it is.
psychologically that might work. I mean, Ryan Franklin had a year and a half crisis of conscience over becoming the closer. if these guys only think of “job: getting outs. thinking: getting outs. outs. outs. OUTS. RAAAARRRR.” there’s no extra pressure. you can’t pressure Crazy.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Today's zombies just don't have the stamina they had
back in the days of George Romero.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 15, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
THE CARDINALS ARE UNDEAD! LONG LIVE THE MAFIA!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if this has been posted here
so I will. Borrowed from Jeff Sullivan at Lookout Landing:
2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
Bilingual Twitter
by Paulspike on Oct 15, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
DAMN YOU, TBS. DAMN YOUR STUPID CAMERA TRICKS.
hold that fucker still! aaarrrggghhgghhhhh.
I really hate that this is our archival footage for this series, for all time.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
anyone missing gifs can check out chalk
i mean clank
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/10/14/2491308/cardinals-vs-brewers-overflow-thread#80193358
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Most Greinke GIF ever?
Ryan Braun on Greinke, last week:
“I don’t think there’s much that Zack does that’s smooth or cool. So we’ll give him a pass for being awkward, because he lives his life awkwardly.”
He even gets angry awkwardly.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 15, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
it's a bit adorable
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
adorkable
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
that's the word
you know, i haven’t seen that in regular parlance in years. that might be the company I keep, though.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
bf nickname.
it probably is out of parlance.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 15, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
After all, this is the guy who cried after Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt broke up.
Zack Greinke is the best in all non-Ichiro categories.
Still not a werewolf.
bit of a better view
yahoo
probably already linked
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I read something
about him spiking the ball, but I didn’t catch it during the game. That’s funny.
Also, is it his hat or head that weirdly shaped. His hat sits way up high on top of his (small?) head.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 15, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Freese doing that beast mode thing?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Dotel for Series MVP!
Screw the rally squirrel, Adron Chambers on base is a guarantee of good times ahead.
announcers last night
suggested the bullpen (if we win, of course)
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 15, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on what happens tonight
But I have a hard time giving it to anyone other than Albert at this point.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Sullivan with probably the most complimentary piece on TLR ever written by a sabr-enthusiast
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Yeah, I just finished that.
Complementing TLR’s game management while acknowledging that it’ll drive you insane seems about right. The 11 dimensional chess can be tiresome, but when it works it’s beautiful.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 15, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Good stuff. I think he was semi-complimentary.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
motion to call the next round of postseason "Two Extra Games (At Least)"
2EGAL?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The St. Louis Cardinals
are exactly why I play the lottery every week. I cannot believe how en fuego this team is. Wow.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
fespn just explained TLR's thought process.
apparently it is processed through mind, then expelled into heart, then he makes the gut call.
no word on where the eye comes in.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"The mediator between head and hands must be the heart!"
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 15, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Which would make TLR
Joh, Freder, and Grot all at once. But more often than not, he just seems like Rotwang.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 15, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
the pineal gland transfers the impulses from the mind to the body
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Sportscenter: "And then [TLR] goes to Jason Motte because he's got a BEARD!"
Yes, that’s an actual quote.
by stlfan on Oct 15, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Our bullpen is starting to seem like a baseball Zerg rush
So I thought it was fitting.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
that's creepy
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
the old guys
I think part of it is the old guys we do have, with the exception of the incumbent core, have been paying their dues for a long time, and they’re enjoying the ride.
if there’s a next round, that hunger might well turn into desperation, so it’s not entirely positive. but it might explain the second wind from the has-bin.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So the Rangers have 3 lefty starters
If we make it to that thing after the current thing….say hello to Ryan F. Theriot
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Who is good against lefties
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Exactly
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 15, 2011 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
unlesss they are named randy wolf
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
the Secret Weapon of the '11 WS!
i know, i know, jinx… somebody fix it.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
yeah, I think Craig would have to start at least once
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
He is the DH
Actually he will be probably the LFer and Berkman DH’s
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That kinda sucks though
because Berk’s not that great against lefties. Having Berk as DH is a massive advantage when there’s a righty on the mound. Still, I can’t say I particularly fear any of the Rangers rotation. I’d say it might be weaker than ours.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
boys,
the rangers haven’t won yet. and neither have we
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 15, 2011 4:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
at the same time though
there is only so much you can say about game 6 of the brewers series. its just something to talk about…
personally i'd love to explore the bernie brewer conspiracy theories.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I hope the Cards blanket the stadium with personnel
and see if anything turns up.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 15, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
blood alchohol content?
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 15, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
give Skip a pair of binoculars and tell him counterintelligence is gritty
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
by nota bene on Oct 15, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
smote
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
update
they’re just about to. It’s gettin’ ugly down in Arlington.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 15, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Jaime is the first pitcher in postseason history
To be pulled after 4 2/3, having given up only 1 run and being in position for a win
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
only the second of Greinke's games without a K, yeah?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
out of 200 total career starts
2 swinging strikes out of 89 pitches for a guy w/ a career K/9 of 8.0 (10.5 in 2011). Inexplicable.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
and this is all with the ump calling a very generous strike zone, to boot
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
This justifies everything Apple has ever done
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
But seriously, why did TLR bunt with Punto with Garcia behind him?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Garcia with the big stick.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn't you link to Jeff Passan's article above?
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Fear of the DP, I assumed
after the bunt, you had the chance for Garcia to sacrifice someone in, or the chance for Furcal to hit with two outs. If both Punto and Garcia bat with a man on first you could give up three outs.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Yeah, people don't mention that much
you stay out of the DP, guarantee Furcal will come up.
repost
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 12 recs
What you can't see here
is Motte’s leg bouncing.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 15, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
this is clearly the answer
find guys who’ll play for sunflower seeds, rubs, or Shannon’s gift certificates.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That cracked me up.
All I can picture is my lab’s leg thumping against the floor when you rub that one spot on his chest.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
they do look like a team having a lot of fun
the pictures have been great especially Carp’s primal scream after Game 5 while everyone was hugging him
Just win
the one seemed more like trying to contain him.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
what a phony
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
Somebody else knows the secret
that Motte is the squirrel.
Still amazed that Greinke only missed 2 bats last night.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
who? oh, B******
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh - cool premise for a joke.
Someone should use it in a film 20 years ago.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do any of you fools have St. Louis Cardinals: The Movie?
It came out in 1985 and it was a history of the Cardinals.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 15, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
I think I do
it’ll be at my folks house, though. I sent an email to ask them to check.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Yes.
if it’s the “109 years of cardinals history” one.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Is it the one done by Philo Studios or whatever?
I NEEEEEED a copy of this.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 15, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll see if one of my brothers still has a copy.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i just cracked up laughing. i might alarm the neighbors.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 15, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
oh... classic.
………oh my god it’s a gremlin!!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Pujols has good teeth
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
"Don't ever smart off or say 'it is what it is'
to the Don again"
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 15, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
looking at more of these pictures
okay, they don’t want the post-dispatch tarp cover. fine. fine!
but I worry that it’s not tied up tight enough for Albert to jump on.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Maybe my favorite bit from last night's game was the trickery
in picking off Gomez.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 15, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions
MLBN was all over that last night
breaking it down, then breaking down the break down.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 15, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought HR was going to break down, he loved it so much
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
the deal with that was that he changed his move?
if so yes, that’s pretty awesome. at the game i had just commented to my buddy that garcia’s move looked lousy, then he picked him off. but too far away to really see what he’d done differently.
MLBN edited together shots that appeared to show TLR giving the signal
from the dugout, then Yadi gives the alert, and Garcia and Pujols then did the deed. I don’t know if all the shots were actually from that play, but it made a nice mini-narrative. The thesis was that TLR controls the running game from the dugout. No great insight, but nice to see it depicted.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
the deal was also that Pujols moved onto the grass to take the throw so as to be quick to second base.
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
is there any good discussion of it online?
I was hoping to read more about that play, but I haven’t seen much. I’m not really clear what our trickiness was (changing up signs? something else?)
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Jaime slowed his move for the third throw over.
Gomez (is that right?) went on first move.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
WMT mentioned that Yadi called for a fastball
I can’t remember the last time a guy was picked off on the third throw over.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
When Theriot Starts
Since the All Star break, the Cards are 9-20 when Theriot gets a start. They are 37-12 when he does not. This includes the playoffs where they are 1-3 when Theriot starts and 5-1 when he does not.
by DeWitt4Torty on Oct 15, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm just glad
The stats confirm the knot that’s been forming in my stomach over the past two months every time I see him take the field.
by DeWitt4Torty on Oct 15, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
and yet we may see him 3 times if we make it to that thing that starts next week
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
now that's the kind of sss that la russa should pay attention to
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
Bullpen matchups and hype on TLR
i had heard last night that one other team had starters not pitch a ton of innings at the same clip
2000 Cardinals
because TLR
It's possible that a week from today there will be no more baseball
:(
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
Welcome to VEB, DJ Jazzy Jeff Weaver.
That’s quite a moniker.
Also, me too. Thankfully, there will be a game tonight and at least one tomorrow. Hooray, baseball!
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 15, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm actually really excited for tonight's ALCS game.
I love watching the Cardinals win, but it’s nice to get to watch a high stakes game without the stress of your team playing in it. Should be a nice, relaxing game to watch.
by DJ Jazzy Jeff Weaver on Oct 15, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
and to go to their SBN sites and watch them freak out
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
and I actually think the Tigers have a real shot at it
game 7 pitching matchup favors them a lot. rooting for mad max tonight
Ha, thanks. I've actually been here for quite a while, but commented under a different name
But I prefer this one, as I go by DJ Jazzy Jeff Weaver over at Deadspin.
by DJ Jazzy Jeff Weaver on Oct 15, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions
keep commenting so that
we can figure out who you were
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing that's funny,
is that he’s a mod. I know azru can see who rec’s what.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
perhaps he just likes the attention
I’d think Astros fans would be suckers for anything positive at this point.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Yeah. By now he should know who's doing it.
Unless Azru was lying to us when he offered to tell us our “stats.”
(Remember, he is evil.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
That was my thought
But since nothing’s happened and he claims to not know, I wonder if the stats are only available by specifying a certain user.
If I remember correctly, mods can see who flagged a specific post, but not who rec’d it without checking elsewhere.
Still not a werewolf.
azru knew who rec's the rally boobs.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I did. It was too funny not to.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
...
We get alot of idiots from other sites on SB and they do it
bc they know it only takes one rec to make it green here. they mock us on their site for it.
people just don't understand your realness
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I need a four-hour nap.
Just got back to Chicago from the game last night. That was fun. Go Cardinals, etc. Totally worth the two 16-hour workdays I pulled so that I could take Friday off.
This postseason has been exhausting. And uh oh, SRO tickets up at Miller are down to $40 for tomorrow…
Yeah, we're going.
Thought it over for maybe a minute and half and then remembered that it’s only $40 and Milwaukee is a lot closer than St. Louis. Game on.
Only question is how thoroughly I should deck myself out in Cards stuff. I’m leaning toward just a hat.
Also that nap did NOT last long enough.
I wonder if Tony's "feel" for players mirrors their SSS statistics
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
A few things
1) TBS has done something that has bothered me all postseason. There is a ‘fake’ banner hanging in their ‘fake’ stadium that reads ‘1985’ Except it is a picture of 1970’s Lou Brock stealing 3rd. I don’t even know what this means.
2) Are there any current Uni of ILL students here?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 15, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
tbs thinks all black people look alike?
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
wait, there are multiple black people?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 15, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
it's more like just millions of the same one.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd just like to take this moment to fantasize
about winning Game 6, and pitching Chris Carpenter in WS Game 1 in St. Louis, where the AL team has no DH. Hopefully a healthy and focused Skip in the lineup.
Then I’d like to fantasize about Allen Craig being our DH when we go to Texas or Detroit.
Fantasizing about Jared Schumaker, eh?
by mick311 on Oct 15, 2011 4:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It was an oblique injury, right?
Recovery is typically 4 weeks or so right? Unless your Brad Penny…..My guess is Skip’s season is over.
by mick311 on Oct 15, 2011 4:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hopefully he's
progressing nicely.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
4 days ago...
he said the progress was very good, felt confident about being available for the WS.
suppose it all depends on the severity.
by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 15, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
if he keeps running up to give those high fives
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
not sure skip would make the roster
especially if its texas. 3 lefty starters. his spot is better off used for a pitcher
He also slightly sucks.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to believe that Berkman would be DH
with Craig being a better defensive player.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 15, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I will not fantasize about a lineup
featuring Pujols, Holliday, Berkman, Freese, Jay, Molina, Furcal, and Craig at the same time.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
If I start thinking too much about it, I just might end up leaving my wife for this lineup.
It’s that sexy.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I take it you understand
she would no doubt leave you for it, too.
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
CLEAN-UP IN AISLE 3!!!!!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
there are towels on off-days too yannow
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Don't tell me, tell them.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Just hypothetically:
1. Furcal ss
2. Craig rf
3. Pujols 1b
4. Berkman dh
5. Holliday lf
6. Freese 3b
7. Molina c
8. Jay cf
9. Punto 2b
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 15, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
hypothetical towels may be needed
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
*rubs eyes*
nope, that’s still there.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
OT: The more I see trailers for the new Three Muskateers movie, the more it pisses me off.
Why do they always have to screw with things? Just try to come up with something new.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions
The new Avengers movie looks bad ass though
Watched Captain America last night and liked it
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 15, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't seen any for the Avengers yet.
I had wondered about CapAM. It looked like it had possibilities.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
new ways to screw things up?
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
pretty much
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m not excited about that movie. The very first bit if info I heard about it was Orlando Bloom playing the Duke of Buckingham. Not cool, Hollywood. Not cool.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
There is literally no way to make it better than
previous versions. And after seeing Man in the Iron Mask with Jeremy Irons, John Malkovich, Jean DePardieu(sp?), and Gabriel Byrne as the Muskateers, anybody else is just going to fuck it up.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually really enjoyed the first third-or-so of the 1973 version with Oliver Reed and Michael York
But I never got around to finishing it. That really captured the feel of the first novel. Maybe a little heavy on the comedy, but like I said I only caught the beginning, and the books are pretty darn funny.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Oh yes, those are great.
I was just meaning that anybody that tried to make a newer version would fall flat, at least to me.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Orlando Bloom is literally the worst person at acting who has ever tried to do acting.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He's also kind of a pretty boy
I’m ok with people being pretty (I myself have been accused of being a pretty boy at various times in my life) but the Duke of Buckingham is supposed to be a tall, alpha-male, strolls into the room, takes what he wants, doesn’t give a f*** kind of character. I have no idea if the real-life Duke he’s loosely based on is anything like that, but it doesn’t matter.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Looks like Tony knows not to mess with the GOBs
“Baseball gods,” he said, “that is the last time I’m going to talk about 2012.” – Tony La Russa
bollocks
Did you hear the other thing he said?
Yeah, I’ve been reading a blog. It’s called Viva El Birdos, which , by the way, ought to be called “Viva Los Birdos,” but, anyway, my point is that they have some very cromulent ideas. There’s a plan, guys, and you don’t think I’m going to explore all the ideas out there, ok?
by a fink on Oct 15, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
we are all VEB
however, only some of us are paid.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
We need someone to take this design and change the bird on the right to a torty
I’d find the absurdity of the word Cardinals under a pic of two different animals.
I'm going to leave that alone
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, but a beaver on a bat is just too much material.
it overwhelms me with possibilities.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how you think, chalk.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
A postseason off-day present
You’ve already seen it, but it’s still tops.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 15, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
ah so that's where the picture comes from
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 15, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
if you don't know it's coming, what a .... surprise.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That's magnificent.
And I did not know where that picture came from until now. Bravo, that 50 seconds of video.
OHAI GUYZ
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Fat Greinke
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
So THAT'S where that comes from.
Who’s this fat turd, anyway?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 15, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I may have another Rainsface picture for you
have to upload new pictures from the game last night, but I think I got a good one of the little huddle TLR was having with a bunch of reporters after the Cards finished BP. Rains was standing in the back barely paying attention, then the story must have gotten interesting because he started craning his neck over some dude’s shoulder.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
your welcome.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ffs, I'm brain dead lately.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Turns out, TLR is totally prescient and smart and right about everything.
(except Colby, who, it turns out, wasn’t going to hit.)
YOU THINK TONY DIDN'T KNOW THAT COLBY WASN'T GOING TO HIT?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 15, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU THINK THIS ISN'T THE MEME OF THE YEAR?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
y'all are not qualified to make that distinction.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
YOU THINK VEB ISN'T QUALIFIED TO MAKE DISTINCTIONS ON MEME AWARDS?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Oct 15, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've tried to set aside these off-days
Surprise!Relatives. with demands and stuff.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well, I have to leave the basement quite a bit
hence the problem.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you are welcome to believe that.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ok...
that’s awkward.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
they're not warm anymore.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Also, that's the first time I've seen it.
I’d heard the audio.
Live action Rainsface should come with a warning.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
I heard that presser on the radio.
That was the only time. Plus, when things with the team are frustrating, I tend to stay away from everything except the games themselves.
IT WAS THE FIRST WEEK!!!!!
YOU THINK THE CARDINALS AREN’T GONNA WIN SOME GAMES????
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 15, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so many great things came out of this one presser.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
was Rains the one that asked the question that set Tony off?
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
YOU THINK TONY'S NOT GOING TO WALK OUT OF A PRESSER?
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
the cellphone one was funny, the other year
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the only good thing ESPN ever did for us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHIQkS1TY50
don’t get all maudlin— oh, too late.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That blanket has to be nasty as hell by now.
I mean, two babies, and one teenaged drummer sitting on it? There is a limit to what machine washing can do.
yeah, the short shorts are genius
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
WE STILL DIG YOU CJ BEATTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWPgA_WTqlU
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i still hope against hope they'll make him a broadcaster.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
ahoy, ahoy! a new post is up for your consuming pleasure.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
How many guys are left on the roster
from the ’06 Worl…uh, NLC…no, wait, umm, NLDS?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 15, 2011 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
Wainwright, Albert, Carpenter, Yadier and Skippeh.
by mattisnotfrench on Oct 16, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't think Skippeh played in the post-season that year, as was discussed above.
He was on the team occasionally in the regular season, though. Still, I think having four players from 2006 is quite impressive – I bet there are ballclubs who have zero players from that long ago.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 16, 2011 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions
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