The Cardinals continue auditioning Jeff Suppans
by DanUpBaby on Oct 14, 2011 9:04 AM EDT
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I love this bullpen, I really do, but it would be nice if one of the non-Carpenter starters on the Cardinals' roster would just turn into Jeff Suppan, already. Tony La Russa 2006 wasn't quite so quick with the hook as the 2011 model has been, but in hindsight we should have expected at least most of what we've seen so far; that year, with exactly two reliable starters on the roster, La Russa brought relievers into the sixth inning or earlier twice in the NLDS, three times in the NLCS, and once in the World Series.
Thanks to Josh Kinney and Tyler Johnson, who that fall had two of the best sliders I've ever seen a pitcher throw, it worked out pretty well, just like it has so far. Adam Wainwright threw 10 scoreless innings; even Randy Flores threw six scoreless.
La Russa was mostly careful with Jeff Weaver and Anthony Reyes, although Jeff Suppan and Chris Carpenter—the two adults in the room—were directed to early exits of their own. But Suppan's star turn against the Mets is a weird reminder that, despite this being a vastly improved rotation over that terrifying 2006 model, nobody has yet managed to make the Suppan turn. Nobody but Carpenter's shut down the other team by himself, and even he's only done it one time out of three.
Kyle Lohse, who played the Suppan role in-season, looked like he was on his way until he became the latest pitcher to go mad attempting to solve the riddle of Yuniesky Betancourt; Edwin Jackson works even slower than Suppan, and is probably the best combination of in-game durability and unlikeliness to combust.
But come on—who doesn't want it to be Jaime Garcia?
At this point I've run out of interesting things to say about Garcia, whose struggles vanish and then reappear depending on where you set the arbitrary endpoints. Since July 28 his BAbip against is .350 and his strikeout rate is down; in September, on the other hand, he pitched outstandingly (24:4 K:BB in 30 innings), finished with a 2.64 ERA, but allowed five unearned runs and got into the seventh inning twice in five attempts.
In the postseason: Home runs, all of a sudden, and mediocre peripherals, and the strange, evanescent nibbling we were treated to late in the summer.
Here's why I don't know how to deal with Jaime Garcia, and why I'm optimistic anyway: He hasn't pitched as well as his numbers, and he hasn't looked as good as his numbers. But in the absence of any compelling reason for all that, I have nothing to fall back on except his numbers.
And those were pretty great. He only averaged six innings a start, but he did it while shaving a walk per nine innings off his 2010 rate, keeping his home runs allowed down, and continuing to get a lot of ground balls. That's it; those are all the ingredients for a great pitcher. The Cardinals defense isn't the best cook, but eventually we should get something edible out of all this.
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Really wanted to win last night's game.....
putting us in a spot of only needing to win one of the final three.
Gotta think we must win tonight to have a shot, b/c stealing two in Milwaukee would be though. Win tonight, find a way to win one in Milwaukee, dance to the World Series.
I agree
Losing tonight will be a very very bad thing. The good news: Cardinals have won a lot of must-win games recently!
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 14, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
There is the Happy Flight streak to maintain.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
maybe the loss last night was just the team's way of eeking out another happy flight.
those guys must really like flying.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 14, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so even if we make it, we're doomed?
home field means only two flights!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't mean they
exclusively win before flights.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
so does that mean there are innings besides the first ?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
If I get as big as dad
won’t my skin get too tight?
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
VEB better not picture anything.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
No it's not
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
YES!
The whole herd agrees! The next 2 games are must win!
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O
People throw around "must win" too much
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Who said anything about the media??
I say it is must win! And cows are always right! Besides, we’d only have to win 1 at Miller, not two, and we’d probably face Marcum first, then Gallardo in the last game. We’re better off with Marcum.
MUST WIN!
:=8O
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O
we don't like the herd either
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yes, he's a cat herder nowadays.
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 14, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I miss when you were insane
It confuses me when I know what you’re talking about
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 14, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i had to hire a different writer what with being a tyrant and all.
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 14, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
so last night sucked
We had a power outage at work, so lots of fires to put out last night, lots of fires to put out today. I had to miss from the 5th inning on or so….
Well, good news is, looks like Holliday got his swing back. I have faith in Jaime shutting down the brewers tonight.
Grit != flat out sucking.
the 5th inning is pretty much when i really started to get annoyed with the game.....
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
The game just had the feel
of one they wouldn’t come back from. I started feeling that as soon as they gave up the lead on Braun’s single.
But then came back and threw pretty good for us for half a season
He also ignored the Brewers bench when he threw the ball out.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
it was a nod to 2006 post season moreso than last year
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
How about Willie McGee who led the Cards past the Brewers in '82 ?
by D4 on Oct 14, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
sounds good to me
but, I’m not the one that makes those decisions. Nor am I the one complaining about who throws out a ceremonial first pitch. . .
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
He had a bobblehead day and got driven around the stadium
I believe even Ozzie showed up that day for him
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
he couldn't make it. he's under the weather.
six feet under it! boom! …w-what too soon?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Fine.
Keith Hernandez. There. It’s out there.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd also be okay with Joaquin Andujar throwing out the first pitch.
And then throwing for the rest of the game.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Mark Kotsay and Ron Roenike might be the only people on the Brewers
who would even know who Willie McGee is.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Bruce Sutter?
anyone?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
oh gob i forgot about that`
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Along with Suppan, they also had Edmonds throw a first pitch.
I’m sensing a trend. Who else do we have that went to the Brewers before coming back to retire as a Cardinal?
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
Zombie Warren Spahn is going to rip off his Milwaukee Braves jersey
to reveal a Rally Squirrel t-shirt.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
My gawd, that's the Rally Squad's theme music!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
how about Red Schoendienst
though he went to the Milwaukee Braves – does that count? – :)
Over 3 different NLCS, Suppan has a sub-.2.00 ERA.
And he was the ’06 NLCS MVP for the Cards.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
And hit a home run.
A Home Run!
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 14, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember a wink somewhere. Those were the days.
Jeff Suppan was one of my fave dudes. We were so innocent then.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I don't think we actually were, we just forget the dark things about 2006
Preston Wilson. Aaron Miles. Sidney Ponson.
But Preston Wilson once drove in 140 runs!
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
slash uncle
quite the utility relative
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
it's complicated
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't that kind of the point?
Jeff Suppan in the 2006 playoffs: 3-1, 2.49 ERA
Jeff Suppan in four years with the Brewers: 29-36, 5.08 ERA
TROLLOLOLOLO, etc.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 14, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
BTW A Jeff Suppan interview revealed that the Crads chose him to throw the first pitch before they knew they were going to play Milwaukee (or even going to the NLCS)
Sorry to kill conspiracy theories
Sig WIP
That's kind of diappointing
I was really impressed with that move by the Cards – thought it was exquisite trolling.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 14, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not buying it
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I have a different take on this:
We don’t need a Jeff Suppan as much as we need to not get beat by another teams Jeff Suppan. You know, soft-tossing lefties who throw 65 mph breaking stuff and 86 mph fastballs. Like, idk, RANDY WOLF.
Wolf wasn’t sharp in the first 5 innings last night. But Cardinal batsmen, with the exception of Yadi, continued to swing at really awful pitches when they were ahead in the count and especially with runners in scoring position (I’m looking at you, Theriot…). We had a chance to chase Wolf in the 4th and 5th innings and couldn’t do it, thereby allowing him to get to the 7th and bridge the gap to the only two really good pitchers in their bullpen.
Our bullpen was pretty much flawless last night. If Punto is playing 2B, it’s probably a 3-2 game and Rickie Weeks to nursing the bruises that Yadier gave him on a play at the plate.
Too much credit was given to Mark Kotsay’s “roll-over ground ball sacrifice” last night, but not nearly enough criticism was given for Ryan Theriot’s “strikeout on a pitch nearly over his head” in the same situation: runner on third, less than two outs. I almost shudder when Theriot makes a good play, because clearly when this happens the world is thrown out of balance and he must then make a horrifically bad play or decision in order for the proper balance to be restored to the universe.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 14, 2011 9:44 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
theri-ohmygodwhydidheswingatthatpitchoverhishead
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
to be fair, it's not saying much if the ball is over theriot's head
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 14, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair,
a guy with less than double digit career home runs shouldn’t be swinging at anything above his letters. That was a pitcher’s pitch and he struck out on it. That’s just bad baseball.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I know
I was poking fun at his height, that was absolutely a terrible pitch
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 14, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Theriot really all that short?
B-Ref and Fangraphs say he’s 5’11".
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I was being mostly sincere
I mean, I don’t know the average height of an MLB player off the top of my head. Also, that might not be his real height, and he would not be the first baseball player to be listed at a height that is taller than his actual one.
But I do think his light hitting makes us think of him as being smaller than he really is.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I think that's my problem. my frustration with theriot has led me to often times confound him with Miles
I swear, when I look at his face, I don’t see Ryan T’s face. I see a composite Theriot / Miles face. I’m often wondering where the goatee is. Did he shave it?
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 14, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
if he's listed at 5'11" that means he's 5'9"
if he was really 5’11", he’d be listed at 6’
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
bobo did you check your pockets to be sure you didn't leave the eckstein in there
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"Eckstein" means "cornerstone" in German
Talk about narrative.
(I will take this opportunity to mention that “Descalso” means “shoeless” (I think))
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
that came up earlier in the season
when Descalso was playing while Skip was on the DL. We were translating it as Schuless instead.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Shoeless Dan Descalso?
Say it ain’t so Danno!
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 14, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think descalso means shoeless
at least not in spanish
there’s an english word “discalced” which is some religious thing where people don’t wear shoes
I kind of feel like we should go barefoot next year
Which would eliminate the need for a shoe maker. C wat i did ther ???/
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Yes
But it has multiple meanings apparently. It can also mean shoeless according to the German translator I use (which is a very good one)
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=30lVUi8AA&search=barfu%C3%9F&trestr=0×8004
Oh, I know
I was just saying that he looked like he was trying to Pedroia that pitch out of the yard when that’s not his game. He should have been looking for something soft and away that he could slap to the right side, hopefully for a base hit. But at the very least move the runner up to third base with 1 out.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I don't think he was swinging for the fences
I thought he just got fooled badly and reacted with a ridiculous swing.
Still, it was a very depressing plate appearance.
is there a reason why they were complementing Mark Kotsay so much on dribbler to 2nd?
He was out and he moved the runner over 3rd? big deal?
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 14, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
It was a big deal. The run doesn't score from second base on that base hit, most likely, because Furcal would have been playing deeper and may have kept that ball on the infield.
It was a fundamentally sound play, and it increases the odds of scoring a run. But Smoltz and Darling seemed to be praising him for making a productive out, which isn’t really the point. The point is to try and get a hit by pulling the ball to the right side, so that if you don’t get a hit, at least you move the runner to third base with less than two out. Above all, you must put the ball in play.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
oh i know the play well and why it was good
i just got frustrated after seeing 10 replays of it. i’ve just been very upset at the announcers. They did call both of our homeruns “unfortunate”
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 14, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know which announcer it was,
but one of them said the Cardinals scored on “Two cheap home runs.”
Ok, maybe Holliday’s could be characterized as “cheap”, somehow, some way. I don’t know. But Craig’s was legit. How is it “cheap” if the hitter just beats the pitcher in a given at bat?
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
It comes from the fallacy that
all home runs come on “mistakes”. Just ain’t true. Never has been. But when you have two pitchers in the booth, you know the consensus is going to be that they never got beat on a good pitch, only when THEY made a mistake did they get hit.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 14, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
equally
there’s a fallacy that great hitters never miss a belt-high fastball in the zone. I bet if you pitchFX it, Albert Pujols maybe hits like 10-20% of belt-high fastballs out of the park.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this would be expected with just about any narrative like this
I would guess most pitches above the belt that are put into play in the form of lazy fly balls or pop-ups.
Now, if you get to the letters, I would guess nearly all of them are.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
this!
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 15, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The announcers were also talking about how Craig hit an oppposite-field homer on a good pitch, weren't they?
Did I imagine that? I wouldn’t be surprised if they couldn’t get their narrative straight, but we might be projecting a little here.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't really hear much more than "cheap home runs."
Was busy trying to avoid the…uh…how do I say this nicely…blunt-fanged, well-seasoned cougar that was trying to edge her way into our table.
I’m only sure about the cheap homer part because the guy sitting next to me heard it, as well, and we both said, “Did they just say cheap home runs?” at the exact same time.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Roenicke mentioned it was a good pitch in the in-game interview
I don’t know about that, but it was certainly a tough pitch to hit a HR on.
Wasn't it asshat Brian Anderson?
The Brewers FSW announcer?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 14, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
it was smoltz.
he said, paraphrasing, “the cardinals scored on two cheap home runs…well, i don’t know if a home run can really be cheap, but they hit two really good pitches out of the ballpark”. something like that.
i think the sentiment he was trying to convey was that wolf had looked really sharp, and the cardinals hadn’t gotten lucky off a mistake pitch or something. it was poorly phrased, but it was clear he rethought what he had said as soon as he said it.
i actually thought the announcers last night were evenhanded.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 14, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I could understand if he meant "cheap" as in "unexpected" which would make some sense.
Anyway, I’m not really feeling an overwhelming bias at the announcing so far.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
it's really the off-hand comments and the play calls
it’s not Dan-like pants-wetting, but… wait, is that too soon?
and little things like “[Brewers player] is really doing a good job” or “I’m really impressed with []” and there’s no such reciprocation for Cardinals players.
at least with Buck’s monotone, everything is equally boring.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
theriot's Double Play
Is the only time this series that I remember Anderson showing any kind of enthusiasm towards a cardinal making a play
Grit != flat out sucking.
yep. i had some hope after that, but it was short-lived.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
then Theriot went back to miss playing balls, and not getting an out and swinging at pitches 8 feet over his head
Grit != flat out sucking.
Theriot's swing was particularly egregious,
but I think that pitch – shoulder-to-eye height fastball – is the most common “bad” pitch I’ve ever seen major leaguers swing and miss at. It’s like they can’t hit it, but can’t lay off it.
Of course, with Wolf, it was probably coming in at like 86 mph, so a MLB level hitter should have been able to handle it.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Ryan Theriot, everyone!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It is what it is.
We know this.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
by dronemc on Oct 14, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
and the situation made it worse. One out, runners on second and third, with the Left hander Jay behind him. It would have been great to see Jay pitch him up. But our chances of scoring drop of dramaticly
Grit != flat out sucking.
Theriot, as a righty slap hitter, failing to get the runner home
was so frustrating.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
lay off the high ones kit!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
NO THEY WERE DISRESPECTFUL
EVERYONE IS AGAINST US
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 14, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
honestly, i think MLB should just have vin scully
call all the playoff games. ALL OF THEM.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
that would be so boss.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
More boss than Sager?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
We've had Sager level violet, teal and orange.
Any bets on the Sager level tonight?
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
lime green
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
plaid
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take "Things that dead men don't wear" for a $1000, Alex.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
...
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this ref
And the movie but of course I’m a big 30’s 40’s film noir/Sam Spade/Private Eye movie fan
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 14, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see him in lime
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
i love listening to giants games
because it makes me feel like i’m playing MVP baseball.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
In all seriousness,
I can’t believe how bad the TBS booth is for the NLCS. They can’t get a Scully or a Miller to do the games? Really?
Also, I think I’m going to a sports bar tonight so that I can’t hear Ron Darling. He is an endless fountain of idiotic babble that makes me long for Tim McCarver.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think at the end of the day
FOX is somehow to blame.
it’s ruined everything else about baseball not touched by Bud. and some things that he has.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Scully doesn't travel
But yeah, why not get Miller? I also really like Dan Schulman on the ESPN radio games.
What about Danny Mac?
I keed I keed
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe because Joe Morgan might be a package deal with Miller?
NO THANKS
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
was there any talk on VEB of Joel Hanrahan on MLB the other night?
I did a quick google search and didn’t see if anybody mentioned him flat out accusing the Brewers of cheating at Miller Park. Saying that the rest of the league knows it but that nobody has yet figured out how they do it.
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i have been searching the net to try and find it
the best that I can come up with would be an interview that Bernie had with Duncan a few days ago where they discussed this
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
go here... scroll down to Chris Duncan on Wed Oct 12
http://www.101espn.com/category/audio
its not perfect.. but Duncan is echoing the same sentiment that Hanrahan was
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
if it's true
whoever signs Prince Fielder could be kinda disappointed. 191 wRC+ at home this season, 133 on the road. It would suck to find out that your big money free agent lost part of his edge the moment you signed him.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
What is the average home/raod wRC+ split?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
overall for qualified batters this year
is 100 home vs 93 away
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
That can't be right?
that would mean the whole league is hitting below-average, right? That is literally impossible. Unless the unqualified batters have a massive reverse home-road split, and would be better hitters than the qualified guys.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I was puzzed by that too
but I don’t have the time or know-how to go and pry out the source of the weirdness.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
oh wow. he just said that straight up?
he had all the oratory skills of colby razzums when i saw him on mlbn first, so i’m surprised he was that bold.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
all they've said is Yadi changes signs at Miller but doesn't bother at Busch.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
No Hanrahan flat out accused them of cheating
the words from his mouth were that they are stealing signs and that they can’t figure out how
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
I should amend, i meant all TBS said
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
That's interesting, but honestly I'd rather not even think about it.
If some sort of proof ever comes out, yeah, time to be pissed. But as long as it’s hearsay and theorizing, well, nothing is down that road but bitterness.
and the Dark Side.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
We've won three of our last four there.
Perhaps the cheated has become the cheater.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
this better not turn into a dating advice thread
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
not really
i like keeping the female contingent of VEB….
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's bernie brewer
at least that’s what a friend of mine has been theorizing.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
does he have little flags or something?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
said he always sees another dude up there with bernie
thinks maybe he’s tipping pitch or location with where he stands or walks around.
I have a hard time believing it, except that it sure make for an awesome scandal.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
If the Brewers are ever embroiled in a sign-stealing scandal
Bernie Brewer had sure as hell better be involved. That would be amazing.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 14, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
are y'all suggesting
he has beer goggles
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He also said TLR was the only one with balls enough to say anyting about it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
speaking of balls
did anybody else notice Zep after he struck out Fielder on Wednesday night? He had the Eduardo Sanchez look… its was fantastic
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
They're sticking with their "Very Funny" theme for baseball games
How else can you explain Eckersley and Wells on the studio show with a guy named Winer? Isn’t that pretty much a sitcom waiting to happen?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I assume you mean
Scully does half the games, Miller-impersonating-Scully does the other half?
That’d kick some serious ass.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Holliday's was kinda cheap
I thought it wasn’t going to make it to the warning track, and then that it was gonna drift outside the foulpole anyway. Just shows that appearances can sometimes be deceptive. One of the Brewers’ lefties (Kotsay?) hit a pop-up to RF that was caught somewhere on the OF grass the other day, and when he hit it (and the first couple of seconds in the air) I thought it was probably going into the top tier. Just looked like he caught a hanging curve and demolished it, but it was just a popup.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Question
Honestly, how can an opposite field home run be cheap? Even if the wind is blowing out at Wrigley, you still gotta hammer it to get it out opposite field, right?
I guess so
by “cheap” I think I mean “I was amazed when it went out”. By most of our standards, a major league popup is “hammered”, i suppose.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone was amazed it went out.
Playoff crowds think every flyball is a HR and even the crowd was confused that it went out.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
....
if he hadn’t hit at exactly the angle he did, it’s either a foul ball or a surprisingly loud out. Given how hard he hit it, that ball had a tiny amount of fair territory to land in.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Yes, but that's not cheap
that’s just fair/foul. He hammered the thing.
but if he'd hit a little more foul, it was an out, is what I'm saying
that was the only spot in the stadium where it could have been a homer.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Sure, but the longest ball I've ever seen hit was a foul ball too
Griffey hit one OUT of Royals Stadium. I mean out as in “in the parking lot, nearly to Arrowhead”.
If you watch the replay, it just doesn’t look like it’s even going to be a fair ball when it leaves the screen originally — it looks like a pop foul that the first baseman and right fielder race for and ultimately don’t catch. It certainly did NOT look like a home run.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Are you saying the Griffey ball that was the longest ball
you’ve ever seen hit was fouled back and not down the line?
Because Arrowhead is behind home plate.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
It was hooking past the right field foul pole and went over the deck that sits out there
I didn’t see it land, but supposedly it bounced just outside the old gate where you entered the Stadium.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
That would be impossible.
Arrowhead is directly behind home plate. The hitters hit toward the interstate. Even if it was hooking, it have to hook 180 degrees and then travel about another quarter mile or so after it left the stadium.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Let's be honest
Holliday’s home run was “fortunate”. Even he thought it was a foul pop behind the home dugout, and it ended up carrying out of the yard.
Craig’s homer, though, was just a great piece of hitting: Wolf was constantly nibbling that outside corner last night and rarely coming in (except to Pujols). So Craig just looked for a ball away, then went down and crushed it into the home bullpen. Had the rest of our lineup (and Craig in subsequent AB’s) simply looked for a good pitches to hit on the outside part of the plate, I suspect we score many more runs. This whole “expand the zone with runners on base” shit doesn’t really hold when the pitcher on the hill is ok with never coming into the strike zone. You end up with guys flailing at curveballs in the dirt.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
The announcers did try to play up the whole
the ball is carrying un-characteristically toward right field and i did hear the comment about Craig’s home run of “the question was whether or not the ball would be high enough to clear the fence but it just kept carrying”.
As if, he really didn’t hit it well enough but the wind kept it up and blew it out.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
If that's all he's trying to do
then just bunt.
Why make a shitty swing just to accomplish the same thing a bunt would do?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Because a bunt is an out 90% of the time.
A ground ball to the right side is only an out around 75% of the time, and the other 25% of the time it’s either an error or a base hit. In a game of small edges, that’s a pretty decisive edge. If you have a person who can handle the bat, and Kotsay can, then this is much higher percentage play than the sac bunt.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 14, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what are the chances of missing the pitch with a bunt as opposed to missing the pitch with a swing?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
To be clear, since you're intent on being obtuse about this:
You would have your pitcher bunt. But if you have a Skip Schumaker or Theriot or Willie McGee in the box (i.e. someone who can put the ball in play and equally well to both sides of the infield) then it makes sense to forgo the bunt (as you should anyway) and allow them to try and get a hit to the right side. If not, at least they move up the runner.
You would use this method with players you would generally hit and run with the most.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
why do you insist on being a dick?
I’m not being “obtuse”. It was a genuine question and I really thought it was a dumb play to deliberately perform a poor swing just to do the same thing a bunt would accomplish when, imo, swinging and making contact is more difficult than bunting and making contact.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Can I rec this twice?
The last two games have been very frustrating to watch. As bad as Theriot’s strike out was, Holliday had one that was even worse two nights ago. Didn’t see a single strike. A bunch of balls in the dirt or close to it from Gallardo, but only managed a 2-2 count, and then K’ed on a high one that would have been ball five or six, I believe. That game should not have been the nail biter that it was. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad we won and all.
Last night’s game felt like the GOBs reminding us of all those things we used to fear from the Cardinals but had forgotten over the last couple months. Thank goodness that the Brewers “can’t hit this terrible Cardinals bullpen”. Heh.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If I sound harsh by saying Holliday looked worse, it's only because I expect better from Holliday.
Theriot’s wishful swing at the chin-high pitch from Wolf made sense to me. I still didn’t like it.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I totally agree
Gallardo was not locating well. They should be giving the “take” sign sometimes rather than let the big guys just swing at will.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by MeSoHornsby on Oct 14, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I thought starting Theriot was the right move
But I suspect you are right that if Punto was starting it was likely a 3-3 game. Theriot looked terrible on that strikeout pitch that was at eye level.
Everybody
has had bad at bats in this series at times, including Pujols but with Theriot it is his defense that scares me. Just remember for every good play he makes, a flub is just under the surface, ready to erupt.
Starting Theriot was the right move
But if we’re ok with subbing out Freese in the 5th and 6th innings of games for defense, as Tony has been all year, why in the hell do we stick with Theriot when Punto is available in a close ballgame where defense matters more? The ball seems to find him at the worst possible times.
It’s funny — when he doesn’t have time to think about the play, he makes the play: That was basically what happened on the Fielders one hop liner that he turned into a double play. But if he has to think about where he might go with the ball, or has a split second to put himself into position to make a play instead of just reacting, he boots the fucking thing. I think 90% of his fielding problems are stupid mental errors that come from thinking too much about what you should be doing instead of just reacting to the ball in play.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
but... but he's paid to be pretty!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I think agressive at bats may not be the best approach with crappy pitchers
I see where it has come in handy for the cards on good pitchers, you know the kind who like to throw first pitch strikes to get ahead, like Halladay. But when we get junk ballers, it looks like disaster. Can’t they have a team meeting and emphasize a change in strategy is in place with some of these guy?
And yea, while that’s a big problem, it was half the problem last night. DanUp’s right: if we can’t find more than one starter to go 7 or more, we’re not going to make it over two series.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 14, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
you guys know
that had Schumaker been available, he would have pinch-hit for Theriot in that situation – not a huge fan of Schu, but that is the one time I was sorry we didn’t have him
Why
is it that I can’t shake the feeling that the Cardinals
are going to end up losing this thing on a walkoff by one of
Betancourt, Lucroy, or Nyger Morgan..and of course there is
Harriston and the fearsome Craig Councell lurking.
We have not handled their scrubs well this year at all and I
hope it doesn’t bite us in the end.
Giving up run-scoring liners to Yuniesky Betancourt should be fined by the city of St. Louis.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
at this point it almost better to IBB hairston. I think we've got him out three times this series.
it’s so frustrating to watch.
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 14, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
actually hes 6 for 16
but, it does feel like he gets on every time
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
David Freese
Has this postseason changed your mind about him at all?
Seems like there was a lot of talk late in the season about possibly selling him off and giving Carpenter/Cox a shot at 3B. I think Freese has kind of showed what he is capable of when healthy. And since most of his health issues aren’t things that should follow him around for years, I think we should lock him in, and consider moving Carpenter if he has any trade value. Be nice to get a quality 2B for Carpenter (or a SS if we don’t resign Furcal).
Why not give McCarp a shot at 2nd
Seriously, if Allan Craig can stand out there, couldn’t Carp? His on base skills would look really good from the 2nd base position.
I'm torn (as usual) on Freese
With the end of the 2011 regular season Freese finally accumulated about a full season of PAs, 667 over three partial years on the majors. He has hit .298/.354/.429 with 15 homers, 16 doubles, 48 walks, and a BABIP of .365 for anyone who cares (I seem to recall BABIP has been lightly touched in VEB discussions here and there…). Anyway, the recent power spike could be a small sample blessing. It could be a sign of that power coming around a little that he showed in the minors. I dunno.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I go back and forth
between thinking we should sell high on Freese and thinking that he’s starting to develop into another consistent power threat in our lineup. Hopefully the team has a sense of what they expect in the future; if they think he’s got an approach that’s going to let him keep hammering doubles to the opposite field, I’d be for keeping him.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I'm all for keeping him if we can't find a deal that helps our team next year
I mean, we need to get back a CF, SP, or 2B in the trade that can immediately help us next year, and that’s going to severely limit the trade partners that we have.
One interesting trade partner would be Anaheim: Mike Trout should be starting for them in CF next year, so I can see them looking to move Peter Bourjos if they can find some help elsewhere on the diamond, and the big needs for them are at 3B and C. We can’t help them with their catching issues, but Freese would definitely help them at 3B where they have ZERO good prospects who aren’t in rookie ball.
They also have a ton of good hitting middle infield prospects and Howie Kendrick will be in his second year of arbitration. They could look to move him and replace him with Alexi Amarista or Jean Segura (who’s basically a right handed Howie Kendrick) and save themselves around $6M or so next season.
I think we’d have to sweeten the deal with a prospect or two (I, for one, would be fine with trading Cody Stanley or Jordan Swagerty in a deal like this, especially if it was for Bourjos, who I think would be awesome at the top of our lineup for the next 5 years), but they are a team that I think I’d look at if we’re going to be moving Freese. Artie Moreno can be swindled (see the Wells, Vernon and Napoli, Mike trades — simply godawful), and I get the feeling that Bourjos is a guy you could swindle him on.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Oct 14, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
FWIW
If we could land Bourjos AND Kendrick and give up Freese, Stanley, and Carlos Martinez? I’m definitely making that trade. It’s quite possible that Bourjos and Kendrick put up more WAR next year than the other three players put up the rest of their careers.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I would imagine they put Bourjos in center, Trout in right, and then waive Vernon Wells and/or make him DH or something
But then again, the Angels are really, really dumb
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
You really think they're going to waive Vernon Wells?
They owe him like $84M the next four years. There’s no way this happens — nobody is going to take him off their hands and he actually gives you decent value in a corner outfield spot defensively.
Secondly, Trout might actually be better than Bourjos in CF. I know, hard to imagine, but I actually think it’s likely — he’s as fast as anyone I’ve seen play the position and with great instincts to boot. They also have Torii Hunter for another season at $18M and he was their best player for good stretches of last season. I think they will make a strong play for Pujols or Fielder to man first base for them (Trumbo just isn’t very good), and Fielder would see significant time at DH I’d imagine. If they fail to get either of them, and Pujols resigns with the Cardinals, then I think they might be interested in Matt Adams too, considering how incredibly stupid they’ve been in determining minor league talent when making trades.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
The 1B is completely dependent on if Morales is healthy. I agree that Trumbo's not good
But I mean, I think you have to play both Bourjos and Trout. They’re both legitimate 70-80 defenders and neither of them are anemic with the bat.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
....which is why trading for Vernon Wells was so ridiculously stupid.
The above subject line is why I am sure that Bourjos will be on the market this offseason, unless they find some possible way to get out of paying Vernon Wells his contract for the next 4 seasons.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Moreno has enough money to just eat the cost, right?
That’s honestly a better option than to trade Bourjos.
But, again, the Angels are very, very, very stupid
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
He does
otherwise he’d never have signed off on that trade in the first place. This is where having more money than you know what to do with is a bad thing — it leads to taking really bad risks in the name of “doing something” when standing pat would have been the proper thing to do.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I guess what I'm saying is
that’s what WE would do. Only WE might actually be smarter than the Angels front office on this matter, if the Wells trade tells you anything about intelligence.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Agree on Morales
But I think he’s probably going to be at least a half time DH regardless, so bringing in another stud to play that position and take the other PA’s at DH would be pretty smart. Especially if they can convince some idiotic GM that Trumbo has value.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Not hard to do
29 HR!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
He's like Rob Deer
I watched some of their games and good pitchers just make him look ridiculous, almost like he’s swinging with the wrong end of the bat or something.
In one game I watched against Seattle he literally about fell over on himself swinging at a curveball 2 feet outside. I think Fister was throwing for the Mariners, but can’t be sure.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I think Howie Kendrick would be sad that you referred to someone at a right-handed Howie Kendrick
Seeing as how Howie Kendrick is already a right-handed Howie Kendrick himself.
Yes,
I thought of this as soon as I posted it. For some reason I always think he’s left handed….
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I can't believe Kendrick's only moving into his arb2 year
seems like he’s been around forever.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't changed my mind at all
I simply don’t think that you can be successful long term without the ability to pull the ball for power, and Freese simply can’t do that. I have NO idea why teams continue to pitch him on the outside part of the plate — it’s basically pitching to his strength and making things easier for him. I think at some point teams are going to figure this out and bust him in on the hands in every at-bat. The problem is that I’m not sure that he can make the adjustment and pull the ball effectively to balance out this attack. He didn’t do it much in the minors, and that wasn’t against major league stuff even.
I think we should sell high — his value is never going to be higher than it is right now and we have some depth at the position in the minor leagues. I do honestly believe that Matt Carpenter would replace 3/4 of Freese’s value at 3B just based on defense and walk rate alone.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I've seen him turn on two inside fastballs this post-season
Both for doubles
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 14, 2011 10:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know the two hits your talking about
I looked them up at Brooks baseball: both were middle away and ended up in the left center gap I believe. If you get the ball on the inside half, he’s not going to drive it out of the yard — at worst you’re giving up a single to left.
I like guys that can use the whole field, but if he can’t hit the ball out of the yard to LF (and in 600 PA’s he’s done it exactly once) I think that really limits you offensively.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I thought someone researched this and he's pulled 3 HRs?
However, your position is still valid.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
I'm sure Freese hit plenty of pulled home runs in the minors
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 14, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
freese certinally is playing well enough that we shouldn't send him packing
to bring up some unknown
Grit != flat out sucking.
Yeah I agree
I really like Freese, very excited to see what he’ll do next year.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 14, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure there's a statistically relevant argument to back up this assertion
If anything, he’s like Ryan Ludwick 2008 but less impressive: High BABIP, above average LD rate, very little place to go but down the rabbit hole.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Freese's wOBAr for his career is somewhere in the .340 range
http://www.statcorner.com/batter.php?id=501896
His minor league numbers suggest more power than he has had so far, so does his sexy swing.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 14, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He's 28.
He’s not a late bloomer — he put up big numbers in the minor leagues at age 25 and 26. So I don’t know why he would suddenly get better, other than that he’s been so injured that it’s hampered his performance thus far.
Yes, he’s a valuable player, but a significant portion of the value comes from a BABIP that’s pretty well unsustainable going forward. He’s either going to have to walk more or slug more to maintain his value if his BABIP drops off to just .330, which would still be among the league leaders in that category.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
3Bs don't really have to hit much to be valuable
and he’s (to my eyes at least) a defensively (slightly) above-average 3B. I don’t think it’s a stretch to imagine he’ll be a league-average hitter going forward (and that’s a BIG regression from his current hitting stats).
He isn’t as good as he’s been so far. But, so far he’s been one of the best 3Bs in the NL (when he’s been on the field). He’s at least average, IMO, if not a touch above.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think your subject line agrees more with my side of this debate actually
3Bs don’t really have to hit much to be valuable
Which means that we should sell high on a 28 year old guy who might have just had his best season and hasn’t been healthy for a full season yet, because we have three capable players who can fill that position and it doesn’t take much for that position to be valuable.
I think that good third baseman are hard to come by right now (there aren’t a lot of them out there), which is also why I think dealing Freese this offseason makes a lot of sense if we can get good value in return.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I recognize
that, from a value basis, this statement is true (..don’t have to hit much..) But, in my mind, if asked to name good third sackers, I come up with a list predominated by good hitters, Rolen, Schmidt, Chipper, ARam, ARod, etc., etc. I don’t know, I guess I can see that a team can live with an excellent fielder with an average bat at 3B, but I normally think of it as a stronger offensive position.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
So you come up with a list of All-Star guys who were 7 and 8 WAR players
If that’s the standard, then it’s true for almost every position. Those are the elite players at 3B. There are a number of other players who were very good and provided lots of value for a long time but were never really “elite”: Robin Ventura, Carney Lansford, Gary Gaetti, Graig Nettles, Ned Yost, Ron Cey, Sal Bando, Matt Williams, Todd Zeile. Even those guys were way better than league average but they don’t pop out because we don’t remember the “just above league average” guys unless they play for our teams. For instance, would anyone from the Dodgers remember Terry Pendleton? We do, the Braves do, but not a lot of other people do. Same thing for Ron Santo and Ken Boyer: beloved by their respective fanbases, forgotten outside of them.
I think Freese is likely to be a better than Ken Reitz but not quite as good as Kevin Seitzer (Royals version)or Joe Randa. That’s the company he’s in as a baseball player.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
My list wasn't meant to be exhaustive
and, of course, the first ones that come to mind are the best. My point was that I, personally, tend to expect good offense from third. Not elite offense, necessarily, but not league average. Although I did love Reitz (the home team factor coming in again) who was not an above average bat and Brooks Robinson certainly was known more for his glove than his bat.
I don’t know, I just do a double take when I see “third base.. doesn’t need to hit much” . Again, this is purely from a personal feeling/standpoint, not from a true value-based approach.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I was just pointing out that while I too think of Mike Schmidt and George Brett
when I think of third baseman, the fact is that those are the very best players to ever play the position.
I think one of the things that we’ve learned from stats based analysis is that it is probably better to have a third baseman who is good defensively and average offensively (Joe Randa) than great offensively and completely worthless defensively (Ryan Braun), or, a good right handed first baseman playing third base. I think we’ve also found that those players, for whatever reason*, are more difficult to come by today than they were even 10 years ago.
*I happen to subscribe to a theory that good, athletic defensive third baseman are getting moved off of the position in the minor leagues and moved to second base, where they are average defensively but far above average offensively. I think players like Cano, Utley, Brandon Phillips, Dan Uggla, Ian Kinsler, Aaron Hill, and Kelly Johnson might all have been third baseman in the 60’s and 70’s before guys like Joe Morgan and Bobby Grich kinda revolutionized that position.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
That's an interesting theory
and, I think, very plausible. Do you think one reason for this is that these lower level coaches are all looking for an ARod or Schmidt level bat at third? (good luck finding it, but whatever) Are they overvaluing offense (at 3B) and thus moving the glove-first third sackers to 2B?
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think part of it might have to do with throwing range, too
I always assumed that was the reason Craig was moved off 3rd, cause he doesn’t throw very well.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I think the "third base doesn't have to hit much" thing is more of a recent (i.e. last 10-15 years) thing in the game
and it’s because there are (IIRC) higher offensive standards for 2Bs (especially) and SSs now. I guess if you go back 20+ years, 3B was always a big hitting position but you rarely got big offensive stars at 2B (with a few Joe Morgan-esque exceptions who are true greats) and most shortstops hit little better than pitchers.
Nowadays the offensive expectations for a 2B are pretty much identical to those for a 3B (indeed IIRC the sabermetric “positional adjustment” applied to both positions is identical), and shortstops aren’t a million miles behind. This is probably why guys like Adrian Beltre (above-average hitter and incredible fielder) are under-rated; really, he’s probably a borderline HOFer with another couple of solid years (at least in value terms) but the average fan probably thinks he’s a real underachiever.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not like the Cardinals don't know what Matt Carpenter is capable of.
He’s not an unknown. He just hasn’t played at the major league level.
I think Freese is made of glass, surgical steel rods and held together with whatever gum the doctor was chewing during his surgeries.
More importantly, I think the Cardinals can get a good return back on David Freese to fill holes that they can’t fill internally. They can fill the 3rd base job internally.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
But...but...he's local!
He went to Lafayette! (Or some other local high school. I forget which.)
We get bonus points for having locals! We should trade for Ryan Howard!
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
i've seen plenty of guys hit in the minors and not hit in the majors
now don’t get my wrong, if Mo can fix the shortstop position I’d be happy to wish freese luck in his future endeavors. But Just because Carpenter can hit AAA pitching doesn’t mean he’ll come up and hit Major League pitching.
Chris Carpenter is also made of glass, and Lohse was seen as a model of durability when we signed him.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Joe Thurston was good enough in spring training to make the major league roster
and that guy sucked
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
God, Thurston on the bases.
It was like watching a puppy in a room with hundreds of milk bones scattered across the floor.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
bite your tongue
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Matt Carpenter
just playing devil’s advocate… you did make me laugh though
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
my statement was made with my toungue nearly boring a hole into my cheek
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Thruston first broke into AAA at the age of 22
And hit .334 / .372 / .506 / .878 that year in 631 PAs
Matt Carpenter hit .300 /.417 /.463/ .880 in his first year of AAA in at the age of 25. Carpenter had 535 PAs.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Context
Joe Thurston was playing Las Vegas which is one of the biggest launching pads in the minors. He walked 25 times in 630 PA.
Matt Carpenter plays in Memphis which tilts toward offense but nothing like Vegas does. MCarp walked 84 times (the most in AAA) in 535 PAs.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Also Thurston's line is incredibly BABIP-dependent
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Not incredibly
But it is
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Was Joe Thurston in St. Louis for his age 23 season?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
His age 29 season was spent with the Cardinals.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
So we had Thurston during his "peak"?
My god, what would his decline look like?
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Groundout, pitcher to second?
Sorry, I’ve got work brain today. Not following.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Agreed
And we have more than one option. If Matt Carpenter doesn’t work out (and I have no reason to think that this would be the case, but just assuming the worst) we still have Zach Cox who should see time at AAA next year, and I think that Allen Craig might also be able to handle the position now that we’re going to have to find a way to get his bat into the lineup on a regular basis.
In fact, moving Craig there for all of spring training next year to see if he can hack it defensively seems, to me, to be the most logical thing — if only because he’s a 20-25 homer guy if he gets 500-600 PA’s.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
A 9-game hot streak isn't enough to change my opinion.
As mattybobo mentions in passing, Freese’s BABIP is probably unsustainable. As fourstick mentions, he hardly ever turns on an inside pitch. He is the same player he was on September 25, just on a white-hot hitting streak. Don’t get me wrong. I’m really enjoying the streak. I just don’t think 9 games is enough to base a player skill judgment on.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
His postseason perfromance hasn't changed my mind about him
But perhaps it has raised his trade value with ther teams to the point that it would be worth moving him?
My issue is that (1) VEB tends to overvalue our players in prospective trades and (2) I don’t think Freese is worth that much on the market, for the same reasons we would consider moving him (injury concerns, power concerns, hitting peripherals are shaky).
I still think Freese should be our 3B next year, with Matt Carp on the bench as a LHB, backup 3B, and utility player.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 14, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Suppan is wearing moccasins
For baseball its a fashion risk. I’d probably take the risk.
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 14, 2011 10:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Small things
Berkman took some really good cuts against afford last night and seemed to be seeing the ball well. Hopefully, his mini-slump is over, and he gets a couple big hits tonight.
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 14, 2011 10:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Axford
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 14, 2011 10:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
f'n mobile phones.
I just had a software upgrade on mine and the new texting/typing interface/word correction thing is literally pissing me off.
Simple words are being changed. It’s maddening.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Android?
Mine went from Vers 2 to 4. something, and the auto correct went to shit after that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yup. Gingerbread or something, I think.
Exact same problem. Everything else is great. but the auto correct is horrible and I’ve monkeyed around with every possible option in settings and, while I’ve finally got it now putting a period when I double space, it’s still really frustrating me with the auto-correct.
And next word prediction is an absolute nightmare.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I've thought about it but never talked to anyone who had it.
and now I have…..so I might just have to get it.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
the good thing that I took from last nights game is that Holliday looked better
Puma got a night off… hopefully with narveson pitching yesterday he won’t start later in the series.. and we have our three best pitchers going the rest of the way out… We also got the obligatory Theriot start out of the way… just wish that McClellan could have pitched as well
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The 2011 Cardinals
Were never gonna let us get our hopes up by going up 3-1, that’s just not how the narrative works this year. I told my friend before last nights game that they could be down 0-3 in this series and it still wouldn’t worry me. This team seems like it can only win when it can’t lose. It would be just like this team to lose tonight’s game and then take the final two at Miller Park.
I think it'll go Cards tonight
Milwaukee in game 6, then Cards win 7 in a nailbiter.
This team just won’t ever let us relax, even for a day.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Whoop, posted before I added my snide commentary.
Here it is -
Come on, they’re reporting NOTHING HAPPENING?
Seriously?
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
BREAKING
THEO EPSTEIN EATS OATMEAL FOR BREAKFAST AS USUAL
initial reports suggested that Epstein had omitted the brown sugar he usually adds to his oatmeal, but further investigation showed that the GM had in fact sweetened his breakfast as he normally does. Stay posted for updates as we learn more.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Oct 14, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Randy Fucking Wolf.
Really?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I know, but hopes a bitch.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
make a one man weep, make another man sing.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't understand why Roenicke
doesn’t give Narveson a start in the series. He’s the same type of pitcher as Wolf. In two starts against us this year, Narveson went 6 innings with 2 ER on 5/8 and 8 innings with 0 ER on 6/10. Instead, Roenicke will either give Marcum another start or bring back both Gallardo and Wolf on 3 days rest.
I still think Roenicke
Will either give Narveson the start or bring him in very early (2nd or 3rd inning) if Marcum struggles.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 14, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Who all will be at the game tonight?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
well, crap
guess I’ll have to sell my tickets too
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Oct 14, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
was joke
I think we are pretty much on opposite sides of the stadium, so it should be safe.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm in 169. Might have to brush out the Laga BP jersey for this one.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
129 here
first section in fair territory in RF. Thinking about the throwback Ozzie jersey, but it’s powder blue. I’ll probably just stick with the StL cards polo I wore to work today.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Ozzie is throwing out the first pitch.
COMPLETE THE NARRATIVE.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
well, changing would require driving an extra 50 miles out of my way at this point
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
You can't brush that polo into
An animal print Mabry BP jersey?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 14, 2011 12:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I'm laughing because you're sticking with the whole "brush" thing.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
fine
Mrs. Scoot is bringing the throw back. You happy? And there’s nothing wrong with wearing a polo.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
yes. We are happy.
Now, shut up and dance, monkey.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i'm not happy until you and mrs. scoot and the entire section are dressed like this
by all4tookie on Oct 14, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
we might be able to get the Westbrooks in on this.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I forgot about that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
...
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That's frightening.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the kid on the bottom left has the appropriate expression
TORTY! TORTY! TORTY! - Everyone
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 14, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
595
If we keep this up we will have VEB represented in every 15 sections
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
if there's a wave, i blame you guys
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean he's going to be sitting in CF?
during the game? that would be so cool! trip Nyjer up for me.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
you guys are so cheesy, i'm laughing
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
left field bleachers
All the bleacher sections start in the 500s
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Lack of seating chart knowledge burn!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 14, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've sat in pretty much every type of section
I’ve always had the most fun in the lowly bleachers
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I have some issue with looking at everyone's back.
doesn’t feel right to me.
Plus, I feel so removed from everything.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I'm down to 50/50.
Trying to sell the tickets for what I paid, but I’ll be there if I can’t.
(The family could use a quiet weekend at home)
what's the selling price?
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
Declining
Now that everyone knows Fritz will be there.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 14, 2011 11:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I sold them for $95 each, which is a loss after the fees and stubhub cut.
Good news is tickets are getting cheaper every hour, so I’m glad I sold when I did!
have a nice weekend with your family!
some things are more important than baseball.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Thanks, I appreciate it.
We’d all be together at the game if we went, but this way we can catch up on sleep and walks through the park.
I'm scared the I jinxed the Cardinals by discussing this same thing with my dad
I would totally be the dude talking to a guy with a no-hitter in the dugout
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I was trying to placate the GOBs by knocking on wood
saying “if” and not “when” etc….
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
as i've said
my theory is that now that the GOB only have two series to watch
they notice more things.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
jerks
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
with bastard filling.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
more important than baseball?
the hell you say!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
tickets are going down in price? that is interesting...
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Game 5 is no longer a clinching possibility.
Drives down the demand.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
also, as it gets closer to the game
it gets more unlikely the remaining tickets will be sold, so lowering the price can increase demand.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Wow, 95 seems cheap for postseason
I assumed basically everything in the stadium would be 100+
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
make sure you bring your smokes
this is a joke, btw. I flagged the jerk that was harassing you about that.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
reads the word downstate
Cringes***
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I also have this question.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
The rest of the state already takes a backseat to Chicago
that term infuriates me. Almost like a “downstater” is an inferior human being because they dont live in Chicagoland. It didnt really bother all that much until I got to Carbondale and had to constantly listen to a bunch of rich Chicago kids whine about how much downstate sucks and how awesome Chicago is…well, if it was so awesome, why did you leave?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I have spent all of high school and college with people from Chicago and the burbs.
and whenever they refer to Peoria as ‘southern illinois’ or ‘downstate’ it pisses me off so much.
the high blood pressure because of it has probably shortened my life by a few years.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 14, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
you all live in flyover country anyway.
don’t worry about it too much.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I've always proudly distingished my origins as "Southern Illinois"
I don’t want to be in any way associated with Chicago or Chicagoland. Actually Peoria and all other non Southern Illinois areas are kind of a no mans land I guess so that probably sucks. Most northern Illinois folks I’ve ever met associate themselves as northern Illinois or from Chicago, including many from Peoria, Rockford, etc.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 14, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i got rid of my ticket
not a clincher, so i’ll take any money i can get to fill the giant gap the ws tickets left in my account
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
So, in the last 17 innings,
the Cards have managed to score 2 runs (on solo shots) and stranded 15 runners. Tonight the Brewers start Greinke.
Trying to decide whether I’m hopeful for timely hitting to return, apprehensive that it won’t, or both.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
This is my fear
if we don’t score several runs off Greinke early, I don’t think we have a chance of winning tonight’s game. Jaime scares me, he’s just so inconsistent and, as noted above, is back to nibbling, nibbling, nibbling. It seems he goes 0-2 on almost every batter then ends up 3-2 on 2/3 of them.
Ah well, I’ll be spared the agonizing in real time anyway. Busy night ahead at the local high school handegg game. Gonna be selling lots of nachos and hot chocolate tonight.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, MKE is a very righty oriented team.
Lefties aren’t much of an advantage against them.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
good thing Jaime has a reverse split!
/still not very confident
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Simo-man
was theorizing yesterday that Garcia is pitching twice this series (instead of Lohse pitching twice and Garcia pitching once) in order to keep Morgan out of the lineup an extra game.
I went ahead and turned off the radio.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
The nibbling was so horrible in Game 3 of the NLDS,
I think he has a full-blown case of The Nibbles.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yep
just when we need him to have a full blown case of the John Tudors
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I was being sarcastic.
Garcia pitched incredibly well in Game 3 of the NLDS.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I know, I watched the game.
he only looked bad in that one sequence. Even the pitch that Fransisco hit out wasn’t terrible.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Suddenly, I'm worried.
Then again, I’m always 1 stumble away from being worried.
The future’s always bright when you are 3 feet from the headlights.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 14, 2011 11:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
things feel a lot better with a series lead
but this is just a temporary pause between having series leads
by Pegasus on Oct 14, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I will gladly go 1 Brewers win, 2 Cardinals wins, 1 Brewers win, 2 Cardinals wins.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Except
Game 7 Carpenter will pitch in a game 7. So what you’re saying is …
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends on which Carpenter shows up
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
This is critical analysis at work here.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't ruin his narrative, damnit!
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
if it's jesus, well
expect a lot more final judgments and resurrections of the dead than usual.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
It's a TEF comment.
Just rec it and move on.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
and stuff
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
when the CBA comes up next time
can we get a clause put in there that no pitchers with an average pitch speed below 80 mph is allowed?
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
chillax, Mafia.
they need to not get overwhelmed by the moment, even if Craig Sager raids their childhood underwear bureau. the big boys may or may not come through, especially given their injuries, and they’re more likely to start pressing because their baseball biological clock is ticking. if the young guys follow their lead instead of sticking to their goofy routine, we’ll be swinging at junk till they find a cure for zombieism.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Luck?
JEFF SUPPAN DOES NOT BELIEVE IN LUCK
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
or skill, for that matter.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
You can't have the money.
You don’t have the girl. You never did.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
This is what happens
When you fight a stranger in the alps!
"And that youngster will leave the stadium with a souvenir today. Not a ball, but a nice looking bruise."- Mike Shannon
by wizard11 on Oct 14, 2011 1:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
alright, i'm putting that movie on right now
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
No, Walter, it did not look like Larry was about to crack
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i myself dabbled in pacifism once. not in 'nam of course.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
say what you want about the tenets of national socialism, dude,
at least it’s an ethos.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
"Logjammin": You must be here to fix the cable.
Maude Lebowski: Lord. You can imagine where it goes from here.
The Dude: He fixes the cable?
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon. with nail polish.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
dipshit with a nine-toed woman!
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
i think we as fans should go back to having no expectations.
this false hope crap is going to stick in your craw even if we do go all the way, because ten seconds after that entirely hypothetical and unlikely moment, that FOX chick will ask Albert Pujols about … stuff. it’s going to make a long winter even longer.
no expectations means we can turn a rabies-infected rodent pest into an economic boost for the area.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
i've had the attitude the whole time that the cardinals have no business being in the playoffs
i’d have been satisfied with anything other than a sweep by the phillies. not too hot on losing to milwaukee, though
by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that if they didn't have the stupid beast mode thing
Grienke ripping carp…. nyjer morgan… etc…
that shit makes me want to beat them so badly
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, this whole WS thing is nothing compared to another 15 games with those insufferable brats
… I mean sausages, of course.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
meh. every year the goal is to qualify for the playoffs
once you get there we have seen time and time again its a complete crap shoot. everytime we qualify i shall have hope to go all the way.
2-1 up was a real dangling carrot.
I want to win this damn series now. AND if we won this one, the team we’d be playing in the WS (i.e. not Boston, NYY or Tampa) would make me want to win that puppy too…..
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
FWIW
I think Texas was the best team in baseball the last two months of the season. Had they been healthy all year and made those bullpen moves in ST instead of in July, they’d have won 100+ games easily.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I think I possibly agree
although the Rays finished quite strong and have a really solid rotation, so I might’ve taken them as well. I think, on paper, the top 5 teams in baseball are the Phillies, NYY, Sox, Rays and Rangers, and there’s not much between them at all. Somehow, however, any time you make the WS and you’re NOT playing Boston or New York, it feels like a massive opportunity.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't have an expectations
I have hope.
I gave up on the Cardinals in August. All of this stuff going on now is just extra, really exciting baseball. Enjoy the ride.
Grit != flat out sucking.
the rally squirrel has a lot of expectations as well
the last time a rodent unexpectedly showed up in the postseason and was overhyped by the media, he was named series MVP.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
ohhhh that's low.
5’7"
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, ok. i admit it, i have hope
That some time in the future, Freddie Mercury or a sound-alike will blast out of the jumbotron singing
Weeeeee are the spoilers, my friends!
Weeeeee’ll keep on breathing till the endddd!
We are the spoilers!
Weeee are the spoilers!
Shut up you Red Sox
We shred, not un-tuck
’Cause we are the spoilers
Of the worlddddd!
Ok, fantasy over. if I have time, I’ll expand that puppy.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As Queen songs go,
I think “The Show Must Go On” is more appropriate for this Cards’ team.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
not sure i would call this a show
besides Furcal
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure they also had something to do with
“Another One Bites the Dust”.
Or
“We Are The Champions”.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
no, no, Another One Bites the Dust is just for Kotsay
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be a team anthem for each team the Cardinals beat in the playoffs.
Or what they’ll play at my funeral.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Bohemian Rhapsody would be great at a funeral.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
hey... what the...
what happened to the power of attorney!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
riiiiight
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
or the old baseball standard, Find me Somebody to Glove
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I never gave up. I'm just enjoying the ride.
Baseball is meant to be fun. People tend to forget that and take it way too serious
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Realistically,
all of this is pure bonus baseball. We shouldn’t be here. So, yea, just enjoy the ride.
OTOH, getting eliminated by the effin’ Brewers…. YUCK!
(I was so hoping to be playing the D’Backs)
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I wanted to be playing AZ
and I don’t want to have to read crap on FB from my friend who used to be a Cards fan but then moved to Milwaukee years ago.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa, whoa, whoa...
“…[U]sed to be a Cards fan but then moved to Milwaukee…”
He should have no business giving you shit even if the Brewers were to have swept the Cards by a combined score of 78 – 3 and pantsed Albert and Carp as they walked off the field. If he’s a sports bigamist, his opinion no longer matters.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
by dronemc on Oct 14, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He would be a she
But I think she does it to get a reaction out of all her friends still in this area
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
rec'd for "sports bigamist"
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I already see it as gravy that we're even here
but I concede there is a gravy hierarchy. Getting into the playoffs was like that canned Heinz brown gravy that will do in a pinch. It was great and all, in the sense that some gravy is better than no gravy, but I wanted something a bit more ambitious and flavorful. Well, then we beat the Phillies and won the NLDS, and that was like the sausage gravy you get on biscuits in the morning, because you started to get the sense that this was just the start of things to come and then you realized, by god, there’s a chance you could have gravy for lunch, and even dinner. And how awesome would that be? Now, if we can manage to beat the Brewers, it’ll be just like that homemade Thanksgiving gravy you drown all your potatoes and turkey and corn in, and dip buttered bread into, because that gravy is so good it seems, for just a moment, to set everything right in the world and whisk all your cares away. And then at last—though I dare not dwell on it for too long lest I offend the GOBs—we could even have a shot at some of that delicious chickey gravy they served with fried chicken and mashed potatoes in the South. Why? Because we’ll be the winners—of it all—and winners deserve a goddamn chicken dinner (with gravy).
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Oct 14, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
that's like the gravy astros
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
carlos lee would like to know more about these gravy astros
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hear Prince Fielder is interested in a vegetarian gravy.
Is that possible?
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
soy milk
/shudders
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
soy milk by itself isn't awful
but in a gravy? egads.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
juice.....
soy juice
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I live on a dairy farm.
soy milk is sacrilege.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd imagine so
I don’t particularly like the stuff, it just isn’t awful. rice milk isn’t too bad either, although it also needs to stay far from my sausage gravy.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Do any of these things have teats?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
not big enough to notice
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
(looks around furtively)
oh, you wanna see those almonds, huh? Alright, c’mon back through this door here. And remember, if the police come asking, you don’t know me.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Oct 14, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you need a tiny bucket
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
if your point that this makes them not a milk, OED would disagree.
a1398 J. Trevisa tr. Bartholomaeus Anglicus De Proprietatibus Rerum (BL Add.) f. 224, The mylke of the figge tree.
It's not my fault that they didn't know the word
juyce.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I LOL'd
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yea,
I have a hard time believing that ad where they say “more people prefer the taste of soy milk..”
What people? People who don’t normally drink milk? What milk? non-fat (i.e. colored water)? Last time I had a taste of soy milk (kid was allergic to dairy) it was disgusting.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
you're my kinda guy, AT.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
For my age
I probably am in the upper 5-10% for milk consumption. (that’s a wild guess, but…) I have cereal every morning w/ a small glass of milk to wash it down and a large glass every night. If you add in the cheese and ice cream… well, maybe that’s why I’m 20+ lbs overweight.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
your bones are probably in hellacious shape though
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing conclusive, but there's mounting evidence that milk is not only unhelpful in bone health,
but that it actually can be a factor in osteoporosis.
just one more thing they'll change their minds on
in ten years.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It's amazing just how different the stuff my wife is learning is med school is from those that graduated just a few years ago.
Only vaguely on topic:
The more we learn, the more we find things that we previously thought true, to be wrong, which might lead one to be skeptical of science. But that’s unfortunate, because while we should always be aware of our limitations and our capacity to be certain yet wrong, science’s current best guess about anything really is probably the most logical, well-informed opinion out there, and it gets better every year.
Yeah, what's the deal with eggs?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
It's 5 years ago, they were healthy for you
Then they were unhealthy
And now they’re healthy again!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
how do they work
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I know that the best practice for CPR has changed, like, 3 times since my wife started med school
Feels like it has anyway.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I'm not skeptical of science.
What I’m skeptical of is the studies themselves. I can show you studies that say the opposite. It depends on who is funding it as to which way the numbers go. You can bend any set of numbers to say whatever you want it to say.
I’m fairly certain that my niece would tip me off to anything like that. Being as she just got out of med school herself.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Science is an awesome system
My main problem with it is that it mostly depends on humans to carry it out.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
pretty much.
I wish I had more of a mind for it. The little bit that I understand is probably HS freshman stuff anymore……and I probably understand more than a lot of people.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, a single study shouldn't convince anyone of anything.
As consensus grows on a matter, I think it’s worth paying attention to.
I'm not saying that it shouldn't be looked at.
But I’ve seen enough things get turned around that the scientists were just certain that what they have is the correct answer and then X number of years later they comeback and say that it wasn’t quite what they thought it was.
I think it boils down to genetics. If you have a predisposition to something in your DNA, then you’re going to get it. And a good bit of it is this watered down crap that they sell for milk in the stores. I bet that if you check the bone density of people that actually live on dairy farms that drink milk straight from the tank, it shoot a helluva hole in that theory.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
never VEB on an empty stomach
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Truer words were never spoken
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
So last night I felt awful after the loss
I felt like I had been dumped by a girlfriend… That was probably the most frustrating loss that I can remember
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:28 PM EDT reply actions
Loss sucked but not even
Most frustrating this season
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 14, 2011 12:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think that the situation makes it stand out
i personally think that Albert is long gone and I want so badly to win this whole damn thing while he is still here.
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
By no means am I sure of this,
but I get the sense that Mozielak is basically planning on resigning Albert at whatever cost is required, but allowing him to hit free agency just to be sure that he’s not bidding against himself and actually HAS to give Albert a 10/300, or 9/270 or whatever, rather than just THINKS he has to.
I.e., I think Mo’s gonna match whatever other offer ’bert gets, for better or worse.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
thats a very good point
I trust though that the front office is smart enough to not destroy the franchise financially by matching whatever stupid offer is out there. As much as I love bert and don’t want to see him leave, I would rather the Cardinals continue to be competitive for the long run.
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this has been the plan too
They gave him what they thought was a fair offer to keep him a Cardinal forever. They plan on signing him and will likely match any non-crazy offer, but they don’t believe the market will pay him what Albert/Lozano think.
Yeah, not even close. That 8-6 loss to the Mets in the last week was way worse
Th errors by Furcal, the walks by Motte, etc. Way worse.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 14, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
my memory is confined to the last 24 hours... im like the opposite of the guy in memento
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the game 1 loss was far worse
and that’s just looking at playoff games.
all our game 1s have sucked, right?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 14, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
A cluster of buildings
Utilized for submarine sandwich making?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 14, 2011 1:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think you're overreacting
granted, i ride the bus with this guy
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
arrested, but not charged
take heed, evildoers – phoenix jones is free once again to rain justice on all misdeeds. but mainly he’ll just pepper spray those who argue publicly.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
would the playoffs be as exciting if the Cardinals could have every game be like game 2?
I mean that is what I want to happen every game out. I wouldn’t mind if they wen’t 11-0 and outscored their opponents 12-3 every game, but I wonder if it would be as enjoyable
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
My blood pressure dislikes one run games during the playoffs.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i don't care how 'boring' it is
i want to WIN
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
interesting....
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i think the kids are calling that "mclaughlining" nowadays
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
if you want laughs, urine the right place
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
So the loss sucked
my dreams of the Cards winning the 3 home games and strolling into the WS have been dashed (admittedly they were pretty far-fetched dreams)
On another note; i couldn’t face staying up til 4.30am again so i went to bed before game time, and could barely sleep til the game was over.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
and the dreams where they're shirtless after winning have come true only once
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Just think of it this way -
now, if the Cards win, it’ll be on the Brewers’ home field. It’d be all the sweeter to hand them the loss at home.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
If you have second chance WS ticket buying chance you can now get in the waiting room online
bollocks
where is this waiting room? on which site? Pardon my ignorance i've never done this before.
Thanks.
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero st. louis deserves.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 14, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
you had to sign up for a chance in the lotto via email awhile back
If you don’t have an email you won’t have access since its password protected
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i might get this
either freese or berkman. what do you guys think? they have it in mens small!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
>:-/
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Sorry, not a fan of jerseys designed like non-existent jerseys.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 14, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i'm gonna hop on this train.
sorry no one seems to carry men’s smalls, though.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i see your point.
the men’s BP jerseys don’t come in small, either. WTF. do they sell this stuff in the stores in STL? i mean, if i went to the stadium or to like the team shop in union station, would i be able to find a better selection?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I can check at the stadium store tonight if I remember
My gf is wanting a Yadi one. I can then check on that for her too
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be awesome of you
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
no sense in harshing her buzz, fritz
she’s doing the best she can. I’ll give it an A for creative thinking.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I plan on getting Berkman's uniform
I think we both got Holliday’s uniform in the off season so we should obviously keep the trend going
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i like this line of thinking.
i was thinking about this jersey because i already have albert and holliday regular white home jerseys. was looking for something different
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
oh sure, I stick up for ya and you cave
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
Right down to the cup.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Eh, why not?
Close enough to a BP jersey, it’s the right color and the player you want.
whhaa
CardsInsider: Cardinals infielder Skip Schumaker was named to the 2011 Taiwan All-Star Series Roster, a three-city tour event over six days (Nov. 1-6).
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Oct 14, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
wat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Holy Crap!
I haven’t seen a Phantasy Star reference on the internet in. . . well, actually I have never seen one.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
FINALLY!
If I’d dropped a Final Fantasy reference, I’d have gotten like 10 responses right away. But Phantasy Star takes like an hour for anyone to even recognize it.
Sigh. Such great games, and they got so little respect as against FF.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Agreed, but
I am pretty sure Triblaster is Wat + Foi + Tsu, Zan is used with either Wat or Foi for Blizzard or Firestorm.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
Nerds
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Fuck that raccoon tail
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Whoa whoa whoa
The raccoon tail is almost as fun as the giant wind-up boot thingy.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
kinky
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I've not played in years, so I'll defer to your judgment.
Currently playing Shining in the Darkness on Sonic’s Utlimate Genesis Collection.
Why the hell did the unlock for Phantasy Star 1 have to be “Beat the 2nd stage of Sonic II with in 2 player mode”? Like I’ll find someone to play sonic with me, and like I was ever any good at it in the first place. That’s why I played RPGs, damn it.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Wow, the Shining series too?
Absolutely loved the ones I have played. While I haven’t played Shining in the Darkness, I loved Shining Force 2. I still play it, in fact, I just started another game a couple months ago that I might work some on this weekend.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
Shining in the Darkness
is basically just a first-person dungeon crawl with story elements. It’s not a tactical battle sim like the Shining Forces. Still, I enjoyed it – it’s got a pretty good story for its time.
I actually like the Shining Force games better than Final Fantasy Tactics, though I think FFT is probably a better overall game.
Favorite RPG of all time, though, has got to be Xenogears.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
danup comment about mother 3 in 3...2...1...
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a hard time picking
between FFT and SF2. On one hand, I love FFT’s customization and variety in class/job, but I like the larger battles of SF2. 5/6 people on your active battle team doesn’t lend itself to use of tactics like 12 does.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
I go back and forth between absolutely loving Xenogears and being put off by the fact that it's kind of a giant mess.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
As is the complaint with seemingly all games that I like,
Xenogears would have benefited greatly from having the time to finish development. But the execs wanted it out the door in time for Christmas, so instead of an actual second disc of gameplay, we got a second disc of linear storytelling with a few limited gameplay elements.
Still, I think it has one of, if not the, deepest, most involved stories I’ve ever seen in a game and it’s got one of the best game soundtracks ever made. To this day.
If Xenogears and KOTOR II had the time they needed to finish development, I may not have needed any other games, ever.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Yeah, I remember reading about that after the fact
The second disc was bizarre. The soundtrack was phenomenal, as is almost everything by Yasunori Mitsuda. I hated those Gear boss battles but I kept coming back.
I am!
A man!
Of the sea!
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Some of the boss battles were just killers UNLESS you know exactly how to do them.
The one where they instantly drop all your HP to 1, then follow it up with another boss battle immediately gave me fits, until I realized I could just completely recharge at the beginning of the second and the woman wouldn’t attack until I attacked first.
Quirks like that made it more than just “grind up and smash” like a lot of the other games of its time were.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
...
Cardinals infielder Skip Schumaker was the only “second baseman” that agreed to be on the 2011 Taiwan All-Star Series Roster, a three-city tour event over six days (Nov. 1-6).
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 14, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
time fucking out
what does skip schumaker have ANYTHING to do with taiwan? WHAT?
Sig WIP
by hr on Oct 14, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Um.
He was made in Taiwan. Didn’t you read the label?
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
tony cut the tag off
to ensure the front office couldn’t return him
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
depends if we break the postseason GIDP record too
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
passwords for WS tickets going on right now
6V48664
6UY2YT4
6URTKN6
6UP5YTR
6UTBC5D
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 14, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
<3 you
thanks d-dee!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I used my own
Got bleachers for game 6. Can’t afford anything else now. All these playoff games are killing my bank account
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
did you buy 4 or 2?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
2
For game 6. I also have 2 for game 1
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
finally got in, but none of these work :(
thanks anyway
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
You can buy mine on stubhub at an astronomical price
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I've never been to a WS game
but I put a price on that experience and listed them
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess they went fast, huh?
sorry, if i’d known you wanted to come, i would have emailed you one of the codes for your personal use
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
oh, that's okay. i appreciate it anyway.
if the cardinals go to the WS i’m coming to STL for game 2.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
did you not register for that, smallpants?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
damn it, next year you and i will coordinate better
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I just don't get what happened.
I got several emails in the days AFTER the lottery. Bastards.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
Thanks d-dee. Have seven now.
Which seems silly, since we will all be dead by then. Damn you, Mothra!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Assuming Mothra can get past Godzilla.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
how come i couldn't get these codes to work? guess i was too slow...
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
i got in with the middle one but then when i went to purchase tickets it said the maximum amount of tickets had been purchased already.
ah well.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I thought you meant you had seven tickets
I was hoping you were planning to become the St. Louis ticket baron or something. Then the power would go to your head and you’d be assassinated by one of your underlings.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
okay,
someone reverse engineer a code, given these five, that will get me in.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
same.
i will pay money for a code at this point.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Must be functional?
Or any code will do?
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Look on Craigslist stl
People were selling codes the first time around
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
6UTH8YR
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
SORRY,
had to be done.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i'm depressed now
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
does anyone here (even the lurkers) have an extra code we can email IHB
if she’s going to make the trip from Arizona, let’s help her out
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
augh.
is there any way we can get IHB’s attention before someone else uses this?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i tried to get in with the code,
(it works), and get her two tickets for game two but it said that “tickets are not available in the quantity you requested at this time”. so i tried only one ticket and i got the same response. make of that what you will.
the code is still good since i didn’t buy anything (no way i can make it to the series) but i’m not sure she’ll be able to use it.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
yeah i got in and was only able to get game 7 tickets in quantities of 2
i did best available really quick….AND I HAD TICKETS IN MY SHOPPING CART…. but they were the club seats so i wanted to see if there was something cheaper. then when i went to purchase different seats it was too late.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
If I was closing for the Cardinals and I had just secured a trip to the World Series
I think that I would do the rediculous and stupid Beast Mode thing as Yadi ran out to the mound to celebrate. Would Nyjer Morgan charge me on the mound? Would Albert Pujols come over to closeline him?
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
No. I like how Motte walked off after he got the save 2 days ago
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I did too
but I’m an irrational moron who yells at the TV
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
(and also on VEB)
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
They'll probably save Beast Mode parody for the locker room
Like with the “Jose Jose Jose” chants in ’06.
Heh. I was thinking the exact same thing when I was watching last night's game.
Yeah, it’s fun and all, but do you have to do it after EVERY damn hit? It’s like the untucking thing – yeah, fine, do it in a big divisional matchup or a playoff game or whatever, but EVERY damn win and gets old and pathetic very quickly.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it funny
that Anderson yesterday said that the Brewers are doing the Beast Mode thing because of Monsters, Inc., and that a lot of the players have kids and that they like it. Well, don’t ALL teams have quite a few players with young kids? I mean, that’s what happens when you have men in their 20s/30s on a team.
Albert should finish every homerun trot with
To infinity, and beyond!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
go catch a squirrel
then you’ll have all the bases covered
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
People here feed the squirrels on campus
so they’ll think I’m going to feed them……..until its too late
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I went to Bradley and the squirrels were notorious
they had no fear of human beings cause of all the bread sticks that they have been fed
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
pizza bread
FTW!
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Back in college, I saw a squirrel next to a garbage can,
holding the front of a piece of pizza in its paws, nibbling on it. I swear to god, it looked up at me and narrowed its eyes, as if to say “This is mine, go find your own.”
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
You let a squirrel talk to you like that?
You shoulda shown it who’s boss
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not messing with any squirrel tough enough to stare down a human.
No good outcome for me. If I win the fight, I was supposed to win. If I lose, I lost to a squirrel.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
by dronemc on Oct 14, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sounds like coward's talk to me
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You didn't see the squirrel.
It was intimidating. I didn’t want to lose my acorns.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Nah the squirrels at USC were chill as fuck
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
that's what he meant.
couldn’t be more chill than the squirrels at northwestern. those were almost comatose. one took a nap on my book bag.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
I'm thinking a hallucinogenic was involved.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
oh, in that case
i rode unicorns with hobbits aboard a UFO.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
UH squirrels smoked cigarettes
So I believe this.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Univ. of Houston squirrels?
Those mf’ers smoke crack.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 14, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't say I've seen that.
But I’ve seen the cigarettes smokers. Also the ones that will mug you. As in, “Hand over the Cheetos and no one gets hurt.”
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
The Geese at UMSL were mean as fuck.
I have no comment on squirrels.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
The entire campus of SIUE was covered in a thick layer of goose poop when I went there.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Friend of mine is a cop at UMSL.
He said the administration there bought a plastic wolf to frighten off the geese.
All that happened was that partygoers would steal the wolf, and the University Police had to keep tracking it down.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
by dronemc on Oct 14, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this has nothing to do with animals but it is kinda funny
at my community college there was a bronze statue of a native american woman whos boobs had been rubbed shiny. sort of like the nose on the bust of Abe Lincoln in Springfield that people rub for good luck.
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
College students are the best
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Geese are mean bastards no matter where they are
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
geese anywhere are mean as fuck
one of my houses in college was in the country, on the other side of the highway was a lake. Our mailbox was on the lake side of the road and every time I got the mail the geese would charge at me. One time one of them went a little too far and tried to chase me across the road…if you’ve ever seen a goose explode…its pretty damn funny.
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
the squirrels at SIUC were pretty fearless too
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I've only seen one person with both a stuffed squirrel and turtle
Most people choose one or the other
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
turtle for me
the squirrel is too mainstream
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
Torty is a tortoise
not a turtle
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone think they will go Gallardo on 3 days for game 6
if we win game 5? I mean it would be hard to send Marcum out there in an elimination game. I get the feeling though Marcum will be pulled in like the 2nd inning if he gives up anything if he were to start
~75% Gallardo > 100% Marcum?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Based on what we have seen from Marcum lately
you can make that argument.. neither option is good though fr them
Neither Yovani Gallardo nor Shawn Marcum are good options?
Have you forgotten what OUR rotation is like?
If our rotation could simply figure out how to get Jerry Hairston and Betancourt out
like, idk, THE REST OF THE TEAMS IN BASEBALL, we’d be looking a lot better right now.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
The way we hit against Wolf
the argument might be 100% Narvason > 75% Gallardo > 100% Marcum.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
who would they throw in game seven then?
Wolf on 3 days rest? Yikes
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Wolf, Narveson, Estrada,
essentially a bullpen game I guess. Point is they would have to get there first, so I could see them doing it.
My bet is Marcum on short leash,
then Narveson at the first sign of trouble.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Gallardo wasn't exactly lights out either
VERY lucky to get away with just 4 ER IMO, he gave up almost as much hard contact as Carp. Honestly, the only guy in their rotation I think is likely to shut us down is Greinke. I’d be just as happy facing Gallardo on 3 days as I would Marcum (if anything I think Marcum’s track record, despite his recent struggles, makes him the more frightening guy – when he’s on he’s REALLY hard to hit).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I seriously wonder how Greinke is going to do
I wonder if the moment will get to him… he hasn’t been great in the postseason so far and he does have documented anxiety issues. Not trying to make fun of him at all… I am legitimately curious how he will handle tonight (i hope he sucks and we win).
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see them doing this
They would then have to throw Marcum or Wolf on short rest against Carpenter in a Game 7 if they win. Not to mention, Gallardo doesn’t have a good record against us and has really struggled against the Cardinals his whole career. Not sure pitching him is any better.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Really disappointed to lose that game last night
sorta felt like a must-win to me, and the way we’d hit (and the fact it was Randy F’ing Wolf) made me feel like we had a very good chance of doing so.
Guessing it’s Garcia vs Greinke again. I don’t really have a great feeling about that match up, but tonight feels like another must win!
Still bitching to contact.
haha there we go again with the must win stuff.
yep, when your up 2-1 in a 7 game series, game 4 is definitely a “must win”
I've felt like the momentum has shifted monumentally with each win this series.
Brewers win 1, and OH MY GOD, the team that wins the first game wins the series like 70% of the time.
Cards win 2 and OH MY GOD, they’ve taken back home field advantage!
Cards win 3 and OH MY GOD, the Brewers are reeling!
Brewers win 4 and OH MY GOD, we have to go back to Milwaukee!
I don’t know how many more ups and downs I can handle.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
Narratives are fun
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Especially when the media (Sager) says last night guaranteed two more games in Milwaukee.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Well, he was half right.
It guaranteed one, at least. Maybe he just can’t count.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
I guess that's always going to be the way it is in a short series.
Divisional series seem even more like a see-saw. Really, unless you’re 3-0 up in a best of seven, just about any game is going to seem massive….
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
the way tonight feels
is like a test of whether we have the pitching to do the job. If we can’t get some starter besides Carp throwing good games, we’re not going to make it in the end. Home-Garcia seems like a good candidate to be that other pitcher.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
The whole city was acting like we won the World Series after going up 2-1 in the NLCS.
We deserved to lose last night.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Brewers lineup
Hart RF, Hairston 3B, Braun LF, Fielder 1B, Weeks 2B, Betancourt SS, Gomez CF, Lucroy C, Greinke P
How are the Cards going to push across the one run?
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
How are the Cards going to push across the one run hangingfromatree
Good question.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
I get really sad that we have the best pitching coach in the game/possibly ever
and yuni-fucking-esky bettencourt keeps beating us… its a sad sad sad thing
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Gomez is pretty much an automatic out too
In fact, Hairston, Betancourt, Gomez, and Greinke are all awful hitters
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
we're screwed.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
by Oedipa Maas on Oct 14, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope so.
Mostly I hope it breaks up the synergy of he and Yuni and throws the whole lineup off.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Apropos of nothing
I was really hoping both of the last two off-seasons that we’d swing a deal for Hairston. He always has been a much better player than Ryan Theriot and seems to me pretty much to be a slightly better-hitting Nick Punto.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Wife just called…..so and so and so and so want us to go to dinner with them at 6:30. WTF!!!! She knows there is a playoff game tonight.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Go to somewhere with a TV
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I told her that.
The place they picked has no TV. I said if I’m going, they have to go somewhere that has a TV.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you are going to be in trouble when you aren't being "social"
i pretty much have an understanding with my wife about things like this… I either sit at home and watch the game… or i sit at the restaraunt and watch the game. If my distant, uninterested, and fired up presence makes a difference to the evening then sure I’ll go.
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
she knows all of this.
I think she’s going to tell them she has a headache. Go to excuse.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
nice
although my wife would tell them the truth to make me look bad (she doesn’t understand the passion)
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
and then get ready to move your shit to the garage
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
my kegerator is in the garage.
This plan might have legs.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's a thing of beauty to be admired by all
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
and not paying attention to anything but my phone.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
pay the mob to kneecap the potential dinner partners
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Oct 14, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've got my wife's office haloween party tonight at 6:30.
Nothing like huddling around a tv at a stranger’s house with a bunch of husbands of divorce lawyers. Good times.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
at least you'll be in good hands...
I texted Chris (Carpenter) yesterday and said "good luck and pitch well". "Thanks" he replied, "I will" -Mark Mulder
by FredbirdisaDork on Oct 14, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
time for a divorce
She clearly doesn’t love you anymore
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
While she's sleeping on it.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
tomorrow is another day
and playoff free
can’t you go tomorrow?
tell me she didn’t agree to this before asking you
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
she hasn't agreed yet.
I also got the you don’t have to go if you don’t want to bit.
fuck.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah, not only do you have to go,
you have to WANT to go.
Good luck, RR.
Makin' toast!
DING
Butterin' toast!
"honey, after conferring with some people on a cardinals blog i've concluded..."
this can only end well.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
at least my gf knows of this blog
Not sure if I could win an heated debate by quoting anything here
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
what kind of crazy women are you people married to?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
really. but, in all fairness, I get the pouty face when I just want to stay home and watch the game too.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
d-dee, unfortunately, not all women are as nuts about baseball as you.
Mine gives me a lot of leeway, so we’ll see how tonight turns out. Worst case, I’ll watch it on DVR later.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i'm not talking about baseball
i’m talking about the pouting and the loaded statements and questions
trying to always make decisions and behave rationally has made my life a million times easier
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
If only all women were as perfect as you
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
You just described 90% of females
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 14, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think they're saying
90% of females
… behave rationally
but I’m not sure. Or at least I think VolsnCards was. I don’t know, though. It’s all rather unclear.
I'm not thinking that was the general sentiment of that
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 14, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
My understanding was that it was a joke that most women are crazy
Most are normal, but I seem to meet too many crazies. Maybe it’s because the crazies stand out
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
most women are crazy
is exactly the type of commentary we don’t need.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Well I had seen it as a joke
I don’t think any comment in this entire thread is serious, much less the whole thread about RR’s wife
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
didn't mean to offend, btw
Apologies if I did
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
We good!
We’re all a family here
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Except for the women.
No-one wants anything to do with THEM.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
My standard reply
“you’ve never dated a woman.”
which can be followed by “now, wait ….. are you interested in that?” hehehh
um, my bf can be pretty crabby about playoff mania too
don’t think it’s just a woman thing. if you’re not a passionate fan, you just don’t get it. period.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
i'm with you d-dee
my wife would never schedule anything over a playoff game. hell, she’s been following along here during the games. there’s been a lot of memesplenation going on the past couple weeks.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
by cschepers on Oct 14, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've given up on memesplanations
before my wife has me committed.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
my daughter asks me about them every once in a while
she started following @tortycraig and was reading me stuff from yesterday, pre-game. There were at least three or four VEB memes in there (Edmond’s half-shirt was the best)
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Rich ones.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
then tell her fine, i don't want to go
she’ll pout and then she’ll get over it
if she doesn’t tell her she allowed you to stay home and men don’t take hints
or if she loves you, she’ll arrange it for tomorrow and have your undivided attention then and everyone wins
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
Or!
Go. But wear Dennys Reyes’ luchador mask.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You are soooo screwed.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Man up
Your wife doesn’t care, and DVRs exist. Cash this in for sex later.
this is the best option
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I know.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I would guess their wives spend too much time in the greenhouse
complaining about cell phone minutes and not enough time making sexy.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Oct 14, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
in my mind
after he says “they were free…” he adds, under his breath, “bitch!”
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure it was going thru his mind.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he was just wondering if there was anything left at the craft services table.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
oh I didn't mean him
I meant if I were projecting myself in that spot. That’s what I’d want to do.
by ArkansasTravs on Oct 14, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
In all seriousness you should just use your cloning machine and then everything is solved
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Call so and so and so and so
Say “we have kids now, sorry”.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Do the dishes and "drop" her favorite dish.
Apologize profusely. Do the same the next night and break her next favorite dish. Apologize profusely. No more dish duty.
Wait, what was the question?
by a fink on Oct 14, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
problem with that is,
that I’m the cook. They’re my favorites.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Doesn't she have any pretty teacups her grandmother left her?
Those break real nice.
by a fink on Oct 14, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love the level of malicious dysfunction in this thread.
It appeals to my inner sociopath. And my outer sociopath.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey! YOU! You won 2nd place in my contest!
Go to the results thread (fanpost a couple of weeks ago) and e-mail me so I can ship you your prize!
Holy crap! This is so amazing!
The last thing I won was gonorrhea!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool, I mailed you. Let me know if you don't get it!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It is what it is.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If it doesn't show up next week, you have to let us in on it.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 14, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what it is
a scale model of Joe Thurston carved out of your own frozen feces, right? Couldn’t be anything else.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
its problems like these that make me not understand why i'm not married
these issues will never come up in my household
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Ha! Get to stay home and watch the game tonight
#benefitsofnotbeingmarried
But… So lonely.
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
See, my wife would say "I'm going to , wanna go?"
And I say “No.”
“Yeah, didn’t think so. Thought I’d ask. See you when I get back!”
She’s wonderful.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 14, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I have a wonderful Mrs also
She’s a Cards fan too so would already have said sorry Cards are in the playoffs
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 14, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
My wife would be
“Yeah, I don’t really wanna go either. I’ll make up an excuse about how you have diarrhea and I have to take care of you”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
One-upsmanship rui
What are you gonna bring?
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 14, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah?
My fink would make up an excuse about how my wife had diarrhea and he had to take care of me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 14, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My diarrhea would make up an excuse
about how fink had a wife and…never mind.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
My diarrhea has a name and it's.......
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 14, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
when danny devito wants to get out of plans with his wife he says "it's dire, rhea"
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
that one was imaginative
mine was just a ref to a 70’s baloney commercial
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 14, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
so, we can throw away the milk cartons we were going to print his face on?
or do we just put tyler greene on them?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
they know where tyler is
but they don’t care
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Biggest late blooming ISO belongs to Dunc
shame about that neck. he never quite lived up to ’06, even with the lowered defensive expectations.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
He had a pretty large spike in HR/FB I believe
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
That ain't the only place he had a pretty large spike, either.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes I can't believe you're not from the U.S.
I mean, you just “get” us so well!
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
If you mean I have a puerile and unsophisticated sense of humour that demeans us all
then – thanks!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 15, 2011 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions
So who is Craig comparable to?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
a badass mofo
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 14, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Nelson Cruz!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Joe Mather!
Ryan Ludwick!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
b-ref has them
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Elvis Costello.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Comment of the Year
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Lineup vs MIL (10/14) Game 5: Furcal 6; Jay 8; Pujols 3; Berkman 9; Holliday 7; Freese 5; Molina 2; Punto 4; Garcia 1.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
YAY PUNTO!
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 14, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i like this lineup over yesterdays
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Oct 14, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Shut up
Why do you always ruin everything
Who do you think you are
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Go to your room
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
You know what's funny
Is John Henry complaining that signing Carl Crawford wasn’t his idea and that he didn’t support it
And yet, Crawford is still on his team for another 6+ years! LOL
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Is this Carl Crawford
famed Left-handed outfielder?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
His performances this year were poor.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
despite this
the red sox still collapsed in september
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
I'm sure that Anaheim would trade them Vernon Wells and Mark Trumbo for him.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Relatedly
Can you imagine an outfield of Crawford, Trout, and Bourjos? You’d basically have to hit the damn thing out of the yard to get an extra base hit.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I vote 5-man infield with Trout and Bourjos playing LCF and RCF
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Have Crawford playing rover behind second base, sucking up all those line drive base hits?
I like it.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking actually
Play 1B and 3B close to the lines to prevent those doubles. Move the SS and 2B slightly closer to the 1B/3B to compensate, and then have Crawford up the middle. Bourjos and Trout playing LCF and RCF as previously stated
I realllllllly wanna see this
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
so would i, but it will probably never happen
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 14, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
We had our 5 man infield for an inning
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, too many people are scared to do something wrong and lose their jobs.
Which is fair, I guess. Also the reason no team adheres to the High-OBP in the leadoff, best hitters in the 2 and 4 spots.
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The interesting thing would be to run a BIS regression using range for those three players
to see if this would indeed produce more outs than the standard alignment, with the obvious positioning being to shade the “rover” to whatever side of second base the hitter bats from.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I've heard of MLB teams using a shift like this
usually would come in with a man on third, no outs or one out, extra innings on the road, or something like that. A fly ball costs you the game anyway, might as well have a 5th infielder playing that short center/rover position where you’ve got a better chance to throw somebody out at the plate.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
The Cards have done this on more than one occaision
I think they brought Skip in from the OF last time they did it, if memory serves.
...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
well, i'm sure crawford will enjoy
six more years with a team whose owner claims to dislike him.
the drama is delicious (and terrible for baseball).
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Soriano for Crawford.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Speaking of
Josh Kinney, he was released today by the Sox:
Kinney appeared in 13 games for the White Sox, striking out more than one batter per inning. He spent most of the season at Triple-A, where he posted an impressive 2.77 ERA with 9.6 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9 in 61 2/3 innings.
"There's only one way to play baseball, "the Cardinals' way." - George Kissell 1920-2008
let's sign him for the '06 mojo.
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 14, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't really followed Kinney since he left the Cards org
but is there a good reason not to sign him?
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
probably not
i think his numbers were similar with memphis whenever he left the cards org for whatever reason it was
I'm trying to fathom why they just released him, then
for that matter I’m not sure why the Cards let him go to begin with. Anybody know? I know he was hurt in 07 and 08, and his 09 was bad, but his 10 & 11 seasons look pretty good. Certainly good enough to find a AAA spot somewhere.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
did they just release him?
i couldn’t remember the situation. i thought he was out of options or somethign
nope
left as a free agent.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
yeah, because he was out of options, right?
leaving as a free agent isn’t the same as an unconditional release, right
can
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
well played
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
sigh. the gobs do not want me going to the world series.
thanks il rosso and baked mcbride.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
no. the page says only single tickets are available for 1, 2, and 6.
oh well. back to the drawing board. we should just focus on winning tonight anyway
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Sorry, OT, but does anyone know a good site for fantasy hockey advice?
ESPN has ranks but doesn’t really have much about sleepers, busts, etc. Normally I don’t need anyone else’s advice but this is my first year playing it and I want to beat my friends in it.
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions
SBN has a fantasy hockey site.
not sure what it is, but google would probably turn it up.
I also have no idea if it is any good.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 14, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Ray Rice got a $7500 fine for a stiff arm?
silly handegg
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
He's so fun to watch.
I think the fine was actually for doing whatever he did to Darian Stewart there. It was obscene.
First time poster
Long time lurker. Tried to join a couple weeks ago. Seems a convicted felon can get an Uzi easier than I can get an SBN profile. Looking forward to contributing occasionally. So excited to watch the game tonight and the rest of the series. What a ride ! Win or lose – it’s been incredible. It was Pirate manager Chuck Tanner who said: “The greatest feeling in the world is to win a major league game. The second greatest feeling is to lose a major league game.” How true. It will be painful if the Cards lose, but it would be better to have made it to the NLCS and lost than to have not made it at all.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 14, 2011 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
well,
are you a convicted felon? That would explain things.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Convicted ?
No
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 14, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
great, another mat.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
Yes.
As if there aren’t enough of them on VEB already.
by hangingfromatree on Oct 14, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
If we had lost that 5th game to the Phillies, while I would have been sad and disappointed, it wouldn’t have been unexpected. They do have one of the greatest rotations in recent memory. And Hunter Pence. However, now that we’re going up against the Brewers, I not only expect us to win, but also if we lose, then I’ll have to deal with that @sshat Nyjer Morgan and the damned Brewers fans in the World Series, which is (Cubs notwithstanding) my worst nightmare. In summation, if we had lost, I would entirely and wholeheartedly expected the Phillies to handle them and prevent that nightmare, which I would rather have had than the Cardinals beat the Phillies lose to the Brewers.
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, didn't think it out much beforehand.
Essentially, I would have rather been beaten in the NLDS by the Phillies than the NLCS by the Brewers, all-or-none principle, sort of.
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the probable reason is because I don't hate the Phillies, but I absolutely loathe the Brewers.
And yes! Let there be jubilation and happy occasions all around!
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
also, pretty sure each home playoff game nets the Cards $5-10m. Winning one game in the NLCS (thereby having three home NLCS games) is therefore worth $15-30m or so to the team (conservative estimate) which probably buys you a year of Albert Pujols. I guess I’d swap losing to the Brewers for a year of #5.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't think of it in any rational sense, though this does make a lot of sense.
Just emotion, namely my hate.
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Nurture your hate, cardinalswsbound.
Nourish it with the milk of your disgust within the foul bosom of your acrid malevolence. Clutch it close to your breast every time a Milwaukee Brewer does that stupid “Beast Mode” thing.
Which is every fucking minute of every fucking game.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd, for "foul bosom of your acrid malevolence." Great turn of phrase
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You should have insulted Buddha
just to get politics AND religion (tangentially) in your first post.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
...
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
posting some of my gifs, for the hell of it.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 14, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love this .gif
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup, and he would continue to start over him for the rest of the season, I think.
And they wonder why they collapsed.
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I'm pretty sure, based on @CapitolAvenue's tweets on the day-to-day decisions and whatnot, that Fredi Gonzalez
may be the ONE manager who is worse than TLR.
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think TLR is
super terrible with gametime strategy. he’s pretty bad at interpersonal relationships with some people.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
What the fuck is that?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
....
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
nyjer hates baseball
no more bats!
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 15, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Any WS tickets still available?
And do I get a refund if we don’t make it?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 14, 2011 6:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I've heard game seven,
and possibly singles for 1.2. and 6.
Yes, you get a refund.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
RESOLUTION, ALMOST
http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2011/10/9/2475331/super-sunday-links-9-oct-2011#79897095
Still not a werewolf.
ahahaha
are you rec’ing every single one of your posts?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
or about the fact he thinks we still care about the astros?
their park is an abomination, but the team i could care less about. although i am sort of sad they’re leaving the nl.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
There's a discussion about this over there
Someone mentioned their historic rivalry with us, and everyone gave him the “uhhhhhhhhh” response.
Still not a werewolf.
it's about as certain as theo to chicago,
the details haven’t been hammered out yet, but it’s almost sure they will be.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
the only thing that ever gave me weird feelings was the one that I unrec'd
I think he even lives in Austin.
I hope I know him.
Still not a werewolf.
you should make your way backwards through his posting history.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
He has nearly 24,000 comments! He's an editor!
I went back a week or two when I started, so I’ve probably covered a month’s worth.
Still not a werewolf.
nope.
Guayzimi noticed him a few weeks ago, and once I was told that the Crawfish Boxes only require 1 rec to green, well, things happened.
Still not a werewolf.
you guys know that sarcastic thing
that jerry seinfeld would do where he’d say something and then open his eyes real wide and turn his head as if to imply that the other person is nuts
so many lols lost as a result of me not having this in gif form. or even in jpg
close
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 14, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is what you should do the entire dinner
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, over/under on the amount of time it takes them to realize it?
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I win!
…wait, what did I win?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
eight inches?
wait, wrong meme
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
"Clack why are every single one of your posts rec’ed?"
ehh heh heh heh..
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
hopefully they don't lurk here
otherwise the game is up.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Just what I was about to say
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
even then, my heart wouldn't be broken.
It’s been 2 weeks, which is pretty good.
Still not a werewolf.
The key now
is to get chalk to post over there.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
I'm headed in.
Let’s get them today!
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 6:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Tonight it will be tonight that the Cardinals win or it will be that they do not win.
by Turing Test on Oct 14, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I'm gonna need a box quote from an authority, like Ron Darling, to prove this
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
strauss is on it guys
LaRussa said before the game that he had just discovered a mysterious third outcome that the Cards will hope to pursue this evening. Stay tuned.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yes. There are two possible outcomes for tonight's baseball game. Those are the two.
Also, it is written in the
stars
by Turing Test on Oct 14, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
God I hate that song, it sounds like the Lonely Island wrote it it's so cheesy
Manchester City: 19 points, 6-0-1, 2nd in EPL, +18 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Oct 14, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
let's parse this sentence:
Tonight it will be tonight
this is an example of a reflexive statement
that the Cardinals win
a bit of improper grammar at this point, but the meaning is at least intelligible: the cardinals could win tonight.
or it will be that they do not win.
we close out with a que sera, sera moment, a bit of yoda channeling.
basically, guys, we have two scenarios laid out for us: the cardinals will win, and if they do not do that, they will lose.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 14, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They did
And if they didn’t, they did not
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 14, 2011 7:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
YOU THINK TONIGHT WON'T BE TONIGHT?
YOU THINK THE WASH WON’T BE EVIDENT?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
It is what it is.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
cody?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Where has he been?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 14, 2011 7:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm legitimately worried
or legitamitely drunk one of the two
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Sitting up here looking at the field
I can’t believe I have to wait another hour. Just freaking start.
by Pegasus on Oct 14, 2011 7:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
oh bellerophon,
lovely are thy dreams
lend our birds thy mounted wings
so they may truly soar
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
so, Suppan is a cowboy
I wonder if he ever visits ranch Larue?
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2011 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
Ranch LaRue sounds like some sort of Wild-West themed strip club
or a gourmet salad dressing.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 14, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
furc gonna speak
furcin awesome
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
weird all I saw was a powerade commercial with ryan howard at first
and I am drinking powerade
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
and now there is gatorade
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 14, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
heh. kind of interesting
jonahkeri
We now have people calculating OBP by position of the sun. It’s the Golden Age of Nerditry, people. insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/s…
by prophetjohn on Oct 14, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i was going to ask for a summary
but now i’m having second thoughts.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
thinking i might have to switch it up tonight and hit a bar
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 7:19 PM EDT reply actions
sometimes, you eat the bear.
and sometimes, well, heh, the bear eats you.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Oct 14, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
say, you got a good sasparilla?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
that some kind of Eastern thing?
far from it, Dude.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
by nota bene on Oct 14, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ZOMBIE CARDINALS ARE UNDEAD! LONG LIVE THE MAFIA!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Is there anyplace in the stadium we can buy sunflower seeds?
by Pegasus on Oct 14, 2011 7:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Are you going to post during the game at all?
(and I don’t know. I always bought them outside the stadium)
Doubtful
3G gets so slow when the crowd fills out
by Pegasus on Oct 14, 2011 7:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Al hrbrosky just gave me the thumbs ip as he walked by
He is also shorter than me
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 7:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Al hrbrosky just gave me the thumbs up as he walked by
He is also shorter than me
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 14, 2011 7:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Go to the bathroom and get it from Sager
Worked for the fink…though twice about posting this but I know you all remember that post
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 14, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
its a little chilly at the game...
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 14, 2011 7:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
BTW folks if you're not on the way there already
Capt Traffic Copter dude said traffic is pretty snarled…thanks Capitalism takeover people
11 in '11
OMG is Sager wearing a velvet suit????
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 7:35 PM EDT reply actions
also
I think TLR has that bat to warn Sager from rummaging through his house
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 14, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he should
his suits are terrible. I say he should just embrace it and dive in.
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
LOVE the crushed velvet
so, so classy.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
just saw the conan blimp
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Oct 14, 2011 7:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I also heard that Big Bang Theory is on TBS
but I need confirmation on that
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Oct 14, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Report:
Conan O’Brian is from St. Louis.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
as was T.S. Eliot
who is the most famous person from St. Louis?
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm
I like rap, but not much of a Nelly fan… guess I’m going to pass on this one
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
rerun from "what's happening!!"
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Oct 14, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
bahahahahah!
brilliant!
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
ok, that's something
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
meh
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
love the local boy made good stories
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
good one
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah... Joplin
forgot about him… legendary musician… see nota bene’s below comment
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Miles Davis
(he was from Alton, technically, but that’s close enough)
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
that's a very strong submission
even if a bit compromised
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Feeling anxious
I hope up the good at-home Garcia shows up today. I am going to be watching him really closely. I think one can usually tell which Garcia is in the game on any given day within the first 2-3 batters.
COME ON BIRDS!!!
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
I actually don't "hope up" anything
I just hope.
move along… nothing to see here
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he's getting hopped up on cool refreshing Busch Beer?
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 14, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
sadly...
my interest in the Cards does not extend to the local macro brew
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
this is true
and, of course, not terribly comforting
They say sing while you slave but I just get bored
by Scarecrow7775 on Oct 14, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You know how
,when you’re about to do something that could go very wrong, you get the sudden feeling to try and figure out what sound you make as you fall from a bridge or a tall building? I have that now…
2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
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Corey Hart interview
i was kinda of hoping and i got high at one point…while i was thinking to self "this guy looks “high”…what are they having delivered to their clubhouse during games?"
11 in '11
game thread dance
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Anyone at the game, please go throw something at bryan anderson.
Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."
im nervous
was confident going into game 3 and 4. now its just so ridiculous how much is on the line. best of 3 for the world series against the friggin brewers
Oh, god -- Hairston
"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan
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