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ST LOUIS, MO - OCTOBER 12:  Albert Pujols #5 of the St. Louis Cardinals blows a bubble in the field against the Milwaukee Brewers during Game Three of the National League Championship Series at Busch Stadium on October 12, 2011 in St Louis, Missouri.  (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

I'm just going by what I've heard, here: At some point in all the rushed and unexpected postseason talk the Cardinals began playing the media role of grizzled, stone-cold mercenaries to the Brewers' effervescent kids. When this happened I was legitimately surprised by it. These are the young Cardinals! I remember it just this past June—It's the end of Tony's rope and Chris Carpenter doesn't have run support and Albert Pujols isn't doing what he usually does and there's Jon Jay, and Jaime Garcia, and—

And that's when I realized I'd been wrong all along. In baseball the story of a team sometimes takes a while to change, and sometimes it doesn't change at all; because they were novel to me I thought of this team as much in terms of Garcia, Jay, Descalso, Craig as I did Chris Carpenter or Yadier Molina. That works when you're watching a team all season and you have to follow things to keep yourself busy—this is the Tyler Green Exception—but if there's one good thing that's come from all this national media attention it's that it's reminded me just what's gotten into this 90-win squad. 

Mostly old guys, as it turned out. 15 WAR from thirtysomething sluggers (luckily Albert Pujols has decided to hit like a 15 WAR thirtysomething slugger while the other two scuffle); 600 innings from thirtysomething pitchers on multiyear deals, 400 of which were pretty useful. Even the young guys aren't baseball-young; David Freese is 28, Jason Motte is 29, Craig and Jay are 26. 

When the national types takes a five-second look at the media guide, then, and see Albert Pujols, Chris Carpenter, and a guy who looked old and pudgy and retirey with the Yankees exactly a year ago, they might have something in their snap judgment. The young guys have emerged not as impact players—the Colby Rasmus trade was the Cardinals tabling that possibility for the next couple of years—but as the kind of unassuming depth that leads to David Freese wearing out right fielders and the bullpen giving Tony La Russa the kind of pull-the-starter flexibility he only dreamed about in the regular season. 

Mercenaries might not be the right word, though it sounds cool enough—and sets up enough of an artificial but entertaining contrast with the Brewers—that I might let it slide. There's something else going on, though—behind the efficient professionals is a second line of guys who have somehow graduated straight from AAAA hopefuls to prematurely grizzled efficient professionals. It's been great to see. 

Star-divide

Bullpen notes: I might be reading too much into this, but with Fernando Salas's appearances at the start of a long bullpen night I think we're witnessing the beginning of a new "damage in the two hole"/"second leadoff hitter" tic in Tony La Russa's arsenal of slightly exotic baseball tactics. Tentative La Russa Construction: "First set-up guy." 

Tentative La Russa explanation: "You know you want your big guys to come in early and set a tone, y'know, really—we'll use Salas anywhere, seventh, eighth, ninth, but you want your fifth inning guy to pitch—like it's the eighth inning, ninth inning, so we'll use him there. Any questions? You guys got anything else?" 

Pujols notes: Albert Pujols has seven doubles in the postseason. He hit his seventh double of the regular season on June 4. 

Superstition notes: On Monday nights I have a nonfiction workshop from seven to ten (MDT.) On Wednesday nights I have a fiction workshop from six to nine. Worth noting: I don't have a poetry workshop on, say, Thursday nights, which is good for everyone who has ever written, read, enjoyed, or even hoped for the continued existence of the art of poetry. It's bad news for people who are convinced, even a little, that baseball is a game defined primarily by the talent of the people playing it and secondarily by what those people are wearing and finally by the precise arrangement of the people watching and not watching the game at a given moment. 

(I say this cavalierly, but if something goes wrong there's a non-zero chance I'll call someone up and ask them to tell me what sucks about my last short story and how much earlier I should bring in the main character until the Cardinals start hitting again. So fear not.)

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2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 13, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

you guys must have a "mind of stone"

if i went into cards-playoff-game-adrenaline-overdrive right now, i’d end up in the ER. plus, if i don’t get some work done today, i’ll have to fire myself

by westsidecards on Oct 13, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leo Mazzone level:

2 cups of coffee

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

My fiancee's hamburger casserole

tastes better when the Cardinals are winning. Music sounds better, socks feel softer, the dog’s breath smells better when the Cardinals are winning. Unexplainable but undeniable. It just is.

by DocLockdown on Oct 13, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's the LSD, man.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

She makes a helluva hamburger casserole too.

Spanish rice, mac and cheese, corn. Does the addition of mac and cheese automatically make us whiskey tango? I’m feaful of the truth…

by DocLockdown on Oct 13, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leo Mazzone level:

2 cups of coffee

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is the only reason they're still playing

someone told them they’re taking their gloves away if they lose a series

GO FORTH ZOMBIE CARDINALS

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

reminds me of a musical i had to write & perform my senior year in high school.

ZOMBSTERS!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

did I miss Passan ripping off our entirely SBN-founded zombie idiom?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go Torty!

Go Rally Squirrel!!!

:=8D

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqBgX6Q1OT0

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Double trouble, boil and bubble. What's up with all these twink killings?

Can someone give me the reason the Cardinals hit intot so many double plays?? Is it a perfect storm of never looking to steal 2nd/Staggeringly slow power guys/contact hitters etc? Or is it more a philosophical TLR thing??

by DocLockdown on Oct 13, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

That is hilarious. No seriously, freaking hilarious. You sir are one funny dude.

by DocLockdown on Oct 13, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

the truth is funny?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

he said the truth

but in a sarcastic way. the truth isn’t really that “we put entirely too many runners on first base”.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got that =D

But Doc was being just as sarcastic, so I thought I’d throw a little dry humor on it. Guess I should’ve added these. O..o

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

...?

we had the most singles and the 3rd most free passes in the league.

by all4tookie on Oct 13, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

STOP IT! YOU ARE KILLING ME!!!

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's kind of what I figured.

Just a perfect storm of slow guys, contact hitters, lots of guys with good OBP.

by DocLockdown on Oct 13, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it's any consolation, the Cards did score the most runs in the NL in 2011.

Hitting into DPs is just sort of the cost of doing business for an offense structured that way.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Put Yadi in more hit and run situations

Send that man. And the train he’s hauling!!

by DocLockdown on Oct 13, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony is constantly calling for the hit & run w/ Molina at the plate

high contact rate, low strikeout rate, slower than molasses in January.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

or mole asses in january

6 to one, half a dozen to the other.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

basically

big offense= fun

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I looked awhile back, the difference wasn't huge.

GIDP : Hits ratio for Cards was about 1.1 : 10, NL average was around 0.8 : 10. Not too surprising with what Doc mentioned above — and half the team is running with bionic knees, glass ankles, etc.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting

probably a better # to look at would be total baserunners (including BBs, HBPs, ROEs, etc). This team draws a lot of walks.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

personally,

i’m opposed to killing twinks.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

you would

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kill the twinks

Save the bears. I’m a little disappointed I know those 2 terms.

by DocLockdown on Oct 13, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry,

the typo was just too funny to pass up.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you didn't somebody else was going to

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Tony can stick to one bad move

for every good, I like our chances going forward.

Good move: Selecting Lynn for NLCS roster despite the fact that he hadn’t pitched in a live game since Mark Mulder’s left arm was still attached to his body.

Bad move: Selecting Kyle McClellan for the NLDS roster (over Eduardo Sanchez) to stop Kyle from whining about being left off the NLDS roster. Even badder move: allowing Kyle McClellan to actually pitch in the NLCS at a point when the came was still in controversy.

by jjray on Oct 13, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Totally agree about McClellan. His arm is dead as a door nail, but Lynn...

…who is a fabulous pitcher, is throwing 4 MPH lower than he was pre-injury. No explanation from anybody. This worries me a bit. Two games ina row where he topped out at 92, and threw between 88-92. He sed to be 92-96.

In any event, we will need Sanchez for the WS in lieu of McC, especially if our starters continue to last only five innings.

by RedAllOver on Oct 13, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure TLR would be able to contain himself with Sanchez on the roster.

Lynn
Salas
Sanchez
Motte
Rzepczynski
Dotel
Rhodes

And thus, TLR invents the 4-inning starting pitcher.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is the biggest 180 I've ever seen a team bullpen go through in a year.

I mean, just in terms of the quality of personnel. Grandpappy aside.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Concur

We went from worst to definitely very good so far

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 13, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you red

that McClellan is a useful pitcher … just not right now. His arm is dead. Sanchez’s stuff is just electric so it shouldn’t have been a tough call. But I understand Tony’s penchant for vets. It’s almost like Tony split the baby with the NLCS roster. Add one inexperienced rookie with great stuff (Lynn) but balance him with a damaged semi-vet who has pitched in the post-season before (McClellan).

  • Note: McClellan had all of 2/3rds of an inning of post season pitching experience coming into the 2011 NLCS.

by jjray on Oct 13, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda of problematic now

McClellan was hurt when Tony added him to the NLCS roster. McClellan would have to admit to a new injury or reaggravation of an old injury knowing that means he cannot play in the WS should he be put on the DL (and we make it that far).

Should we make it to the WS, we could swap out Sanchez for McClellan on the WS roster … but McClellan took Schumaker’s spot and Schu might be able to return then. I’ll be thrilled if we are still arguing about these issues in a week because the Cards advanced to the WS.

by jjray on Oct 13, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing that worries me about Sanchez

is that he seemed to let pressure get to him a little. Like he’d get nervous or too amped up and couldn’t locate the strike zone at times. I’m sure this will correct itself with time, but I’m not sure the World Series being his first taste of the post season calms me much.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 13, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen the chart to confirm this

but my remembrance of watching Sanchez is that on days where he lacks command, he lacks command of the fastball only. He can always throw the slider for strikes. And his slider is such a devastating pitch that he really doesn’t need anything else. Yadie should just keep putting down three fingers (kinda like Rivera and his cutter). The hitter knows what’s coming but it doesn’t matter.

by jjray on Oct 13, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like Waino's curve

and yes, that slider is just nasty. no other word for it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it a true slider?

Honestly it looks kinda slurvy to me. Not that it really matters because it’s disgusting anyway.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 13, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

might be. I'm usually just so amazed that

I couldn’t care less what it is. It just looks whiffleballish.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, my reaction is usually like this

Damn! That was one awesome slider!!!

Was that a slider? I don’t know… I’ve never seen a slider do THAT before…. Maybe it wasn’t a slider… Maybe it was some sort of screwy cut-fastball/slider/curve thingy…

Fuck it, who cares, that pitch is refreakingdiculous.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 13, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

On one hand...

Sanchez is a rookie with very little experience and I wonder it the pressure of the playoffs will render him ineffective.

On the other hand – Josh Kinney, circa 2006

by YepYouGuessedIt...CardinalRed on Oct 13, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not having having Sanchez hasn't burned us yet

Yet.

But I’m feeling extremely positive about this series. The Brewers are close to being broken – if they’re not already. I think we’ll see some desperation from them tonight and that can either work – or completely flame . . . .

"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower

by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

The Brewers will face this pressure and either win or lose?

/Kidding

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 13, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Friday is the game that concerns me

Motte / Lynn / Salas can’t pitch every night. And if we get six innings out of Lohse tonight we must bow down and thank the baseball gods. The bullpen is going to be taxed again tonight. Friday will then be scary for the pen. McClellan could get the ball with the game on the line.

by jjray on Oct 13, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Friday is the night Garcia transcends "5.2 IP only" status and becomes our 3rd ace.

I see 8.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 6 K, 0 BB, 106 pitches.

Hopefully.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

the real question is

is that run earned?

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends

is theriot or punto starting?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only in the strictest sense.

Theriot’s going to miss a it’ll roll into the outfield, and Jay’s going to trip running to it, resulting in a “triple” for Jonathan Lucroy, and not an error because technically no one blew a catch or muffed a throw.

Lucroy will then score on a steal of home, do the “beast mode” thing, and point at the Cardinals dugout.

Pujols will be incensed, and in the next inning will hit the longest HR in Busch II history, which will collide with the still-flying ball from his Lidge HR, tearing a tiny hole in the space time continuum that’s just large enough for “Doppleganger” Lozano to sneak though and take over for his real-life counterpart and sign Pujols to a 5 year, 36 million dollar contract, with a series of 3 team option years at 4 million each.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

The ball will be hit so far it orbits the earth, travelling so fast it reverses time, like Superman.

Thus allowing it to be the longest HR in Busch II history.

Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Oct 13, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

heh

Tortell for 2012 Manager!

by Lambtron on Oct 13, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

tomorrow night scares me as well.

tonight is a toss up but tomorrow is advantage brewers. and game 6 is advantage cardinals. i basically see this series ending in four ways:

cardinals in 5
cardinals in 6
brewers in 7
cardinals in 7

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

(which, obviously is all the scenarios it could be except brewers in 6)

i guess what i’m saying is that i guarantee a game 6 win if it comes down to that.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

naw,

KLo is gonna go all ‘Carp mode’ tonight and throw a CGSO.

(not really, but with all the other weird things that have gone on this Sept/Oct., who knows?)

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 13, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if he did.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 13, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly

it would surprise the shit out of me. But I’d happily clean pants out then have another beer.

by jjray on Oct 13, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

Bookmarked, and ready to use whenever good baserunning occurs or good analysis of baserunning occurs.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 13, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's just you

(Actually I see it too, but I’m not asking him about it.)

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh crapsheath, it makes this noise when I touch my fronthead like this

Let me tell you about American idioths

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 9:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Are the Cardinal patches on the blazer pocket new or did I just miss them on Opening Day?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

New to me too

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 13, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh fer...

ANOTHER matt?

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 13, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

sssshhh they can hear you

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're not a real matt

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 13, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brock

only needs one thumb for beast mode

by lawman3842 on Oct 13, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not the news I wanted

Craig starting for Berk tonight. Was more hoping for Holliday. Neither have been great but Berk has looked a little better than Holliday IMO.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 13, 2011 9:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Berk platoon split v. LHP

Plus it minimized the defensive impact of having Craig out there, plus I think the night off does Berk more good, physically. Plus I’m just happy to see Allen Craig playing.

Craig hitting second, or fifth, or what?

Furcal SS
Craig RF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Freese 3B
Molina C
Jay CF
Theriot 2B
Lohse P

That’s my guess.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Craig will be in the 5 spot.

Too much production from Jay at 2 to mess with it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

this wouldn't bother me.

nor would seeing freese 6th.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I bet Craig is in the 2 spot

based on my pet TLR descriptive phrase: “slavish devotion to the lefty-righty matchup”.

by jjray on Oct 13, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hasn't TLR (at least in the past)

really liked staggering lefties and righties too?

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 13, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

but tiebreaker in the TLR pet tendencies is that he likes “damage” in the #2 hole. Craig has a much higher career OPS than Jay. Two TLR baseball rules versus one. :o) Then again, TLR is a contrarian and likes to go with his gut.

by jjray on Oct 13, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

And since you figured out mathematically which way he'll go...

he’ll go the other way.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 13, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

but the lefty

jay will be pushed down. probably to 7 or 8

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to be the one to say so

but we’ll probably see Theriot in the 2-hole and Jay in the 8 (against the lefty).

Based on the last couple of games, I’d almost put Craig at clean-up. My guess, however is:
  Furcal – 6
  Theriot – 4
  Pujols – 3
  Holliday – 7
  Craig – 9
  Molina – 2
  Freese – 5
  Jay – 8
  Lohse – 1

I’d sure think about flipping Craig and Freese, but it likely won’t happen

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 13, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's the second most likely lineup.

Besides mine, which is naturally the most likely.

Weird that Yadi is ensconced in the 6 hole and nobody really questions it. Oh well, whatever.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I would consider

Furcal
Freese
Pujols
Craig
Holliday
Molina
Theriot
Jay
Lohse

Holliday did not look very good last night.

by OCCardsFan on Oct 13, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I realize Theriot is very likely going to start at 2B but I really want the best defense possible behind Lohse.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm ok with Theriot against a lefty

especially given that he’ll probably be pulled for Punto at some point if we can get a lead

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 13, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

The marginal drop off in defense from Skip to Theriot

is minimal. I seem to recall some of the metrics somewhere actually giving the slightest of edges to Theriot at 2B, but that may just be me remembering something that never existed.

And yes, I realize I’ve probably just guaranteed at some point in the game that we’ll see a screaming liner that just misses Theriot’s glove by a fraction of an inch.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn it, why do I keep forgetting skip is off the NLCS roster!

Yeah, Punto’s a LOT better than Theriot at defense.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm worried about range and hands.

Punto is so much better with the glove than either of them it is remarkable.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get why,

when the Cards have Pujols, Holliday, Berkman (or Craig in one of those slots), Freese, Molina, and Jay all hitting relatively well that they don’t just go with the defense-first guy at 2nd all the time. It’s not like Punto’s going to hit .180/.210/.260 out there, and even if he did, with as deep a lineup as they’ve got right now, who cares?

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

And he at least walks a lot

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

this.

i mean, com’on, little nicky is gritty. isn’t he?

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Craig is a much better defender than Berkman.

Because of this, I don’t think he is necessarily in RF to minimize the defensive impact.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, he's replacing Berk instead of Holli because Holli is hitting and Berk simply isn't.

The difference with Holli is that he isn’t hitting for power. and a day off isn’t going to help that. the only thing that will help that is three days off and a cortisone shot, which I hope he gets before the WS if we make it that far.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday looked awful last night.

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by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, he had an unproductive game.

Berk’s had 7 so far. And it doesn’t change the fact that one day off will not fix what’s ailing Holliday.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I admit to having no info on Craig's defense

beyond Keith Law calling him a bat without a position a year or two ago. But FG has him at +1.3 defensive runs this year, so, hooray!

Anyhow, I was more referring to the difference between Holliday and Berk defensively.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

So then

Furk, Theriot, Albert, Hollidome, Craig, Yadi, Freese, Jay.

Man, that could be sweet. I think I’d tweak it as this, even though it makes no difference:

Jay, Theriot, Albert, Holli, Craig, Freese, Yadi, Furk. Screw it and bat the pitcher 8th. Have crazy TLR ball.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wolf on the mound

Berk does not berk quite as much against lefties as he does against righties.

(Puts on TLR hat…why is there so much cat hair in this damn hat?!?)

Anyway, Berk is hitting .094 in 39 PAs against Wolf. Tony probably is going off of that too. I’m cool with having Berkman come in to pinch-hit against someone from their bullpen like LaTroy Hawkins later in the game though. I’ll take that matchup.

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Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Oct 13, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do think a Berk day off would be good

Wish we were able to give Holliday a day off. Not trying to anger the GOB but if we were to win I wonder if you give Holliday game 5 off and put Craig in LF?

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 13, 2011 9:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think the media is doing some sort of weird "playoff years" conversion,

like with dog years and people years. There are “baseball years” and “playoff years” or something.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

their age is on full display every time T-Plush is on screen.

I love it when he strikes out or pops out and he looks around at the pitcher and the other players as if he’s saying “yeah, you got me that time…heh, heh, heh…..just wait” but then no one really looks back at him or really cares since “next time” might not be for a couple games.

and then he goes back to not being very important to anyone.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 13, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's only if you stick with linear time.

If you go with narrative time, then they’re younger.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I watched him play

here in Springfield…actually I’ve watched half the big league team play in Springfield now

by saladdays on Oct 13, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's more than one sequel?

Great googly moogly

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure, but I erred on the side of multiple

judging my how many Pirates sequels there were

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I didn’t get that far into the Amanda Brown Wikipedia entry.

by mojowo11 on Oct 13, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a book?!?!

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

movie came before the musical

and was better

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever the Tony-logic is, I'm loving the bullpen usage.

Imagine using your better bullpen arms in high leverage situations, no matter when in the game they occur. Who ever would have thought of such a thing?

Every once in a while, TLR inscrutably gets something almost completely right. This might be one of those times. Or, maybe we just have a bunch of really good arms in the pen right now.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

imagine if he had employed this strategy during the regular season.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well....

In the beginning, that is kind of how it went. It just involved Frankie and…. Puke

by RasmustheRipper on Oct 13, 2011 5:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Surely this is a team of density

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

hey, now.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

There it is.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh dear...

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bernie on the Bullpen

in today’s column:

Carpennter transferred custody of Game 3 to the bullpen, which is starting to take the form of a nasty, poisonous octopus.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

so... so many animals.... ahhhhhhh

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

The source of the problem is the free admission to the Zoo.

Too easy to get in there and borrow…

Someone needs to keep an eye on Big Cat Country, just in case.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

OMG IT'S THE CAT

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

cats and birds

Aren’t exactly on speaking terms.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 10:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'll let you explain the puma, then.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

berks new name

The Ambassador.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 10:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

How about

skinny Elvis.

  • Apparently the fact that we in STL were calling fat elvis on the message boards got back to him and he took offense. If that helped in any way to motivate him to get himself in such great shape for the 2011 season, then good for us.

by jjray on Oct 13, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry about the glossary, Berk

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

There it is.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

remember this one?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mr. Jim?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he's been responsible for this all along.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mmm yes

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe everyone just misses this place.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now meet a real-life Noah!

Except this one is accused of KILLING two of every animal…

by mattisnotfrench on Oct 13, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

"gritty"

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Steve Irwin could be reached for comment.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

he could?? zombies!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I said he could be reached, not that he had one.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Penthulu?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I regret to inform you all

that not only has squirrel cosplay now made it into national feeds

there is a momup comment in the previous thread which is not green
i know. i am at fault too.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

link?

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 13, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

thy will shall be done

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 13, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

An Omen!

I just received an Etrade advisory to purchase Tortoise Pipeline and Energy

by Buckeye Redbird on Oct 13, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

buy buy buy

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

A tortoise pipeline?

That sounds inhumane! And how are they converting them to energy?

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 13, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

slow and steady

lots of torque. Gives a consent voltage.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

you mean we are at their whim?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

re-link fanshot

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/10/13/2487674/chris-carpenter-the-pitcher-as-science-project

I’m also trying to find the full video of the Chris Carpenter and David Freese with Jason Motte presser. I doubt it’s online in full, but it was great stuff from beginning to end.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Real Steel

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whooooooooooooooooooooo

And Tacoby!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

BERK!

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

the berk is back

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 13, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

go Berk go!

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by tehzachatak on Oct 13, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

FOUND IT. Chris Carpenter on Albert Pujols.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19892481&topic_id=25502556&c_id=mlb

Ad prelude: Ryan Howard.

Feel free to blockquote like crazy.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

The Gatorade product placement

has been even more obvious than normal lately.

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 13, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

the entire presser

Just before this, the reporters were in some kind of stunned silence, so the moderator lady was like “well… if there are any questions”, and Freese and Carp started to get up to leave. Funny stuff.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19892399&topic_id=25502556&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_19892399&v=3

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

i missed this part

Carp credits Dotey and Arthur for keeping the young guys loose
bullpen !

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

The kids love the stories of the Great War.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great war was WW 2

I think you mean the French Indian War. Or maybe the Pelopynesian war.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

WW1 was "the great war"

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever. History fail

My attempt at humor still stands.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh,

so his real name is Arthur OF Rhodesia? It was shortened later on?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 13, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rhodes was the ancient city

Rhodesia is the African nation, named much later after British business magnate and imperialist Cecil Rhodes. History!

Sorry, this is about the only thing my undergrad history degree is good for so I kind of get off on it.

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by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rhodesia became Zimbabwe, right?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Southern Rhodesia did

after seceding from the British Empire and fighting the last big postcolonial dirty war.

Northern Rhodesia became Zambia.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 13, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh

I’m just glad I was partially right

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

you were pretty much on it

like mattyp above, this is about the only chance I have to get mileage out of my undergrad history degree. Although really I’m just waiting for that day when VEB has an in-depth discussion of labor relations in early modern England, and I prove my value as a solid off-the-bench guy for matchup comment situations.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 13, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Dammit.

history fail!!!

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 13, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

have you a worthless bachelors in history as well?

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, I wouldn't say it was worhthless

I enjoyed it very much, learned a great deal, and couldn’t imagine having studied anything else. Oh, you meant worthless in the economic sense. Yes. Yes it was.

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by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes completely worthless economically

and socially I dread the comment, “Oh you should be a teacher then!” Umm, no.

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zombiphon's Albertasis?

Eh… this concept needs a little work, but I think it has potential.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to make a joke with TLR being like Xerxes

and the hubris of lashing the sea/running good players out of town. But then I remembered that account is from Herodotus, not Thucydides, and didn’t want to shame myself in front of VEB on history major day.

by Kind_Al on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Xenophon was much easier to read (and interesting) than Thucydides

Plus, the Pelopenesian Wars was the same thing over and over again. Spring time → Siege of Athens. Winter time → break camp. Rinse and repeat for 30 years.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 13, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don't call him the father of history for nothing

Pygmies, Amazons, and all sorts of non-sequiturs while talking about the Persian wars. I think Anabasis and the Illiad were my 2 favorite Greek classes.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 13, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Xenophon is really old, the original

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 13, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh man, do I disagree

the Peloponnesian War is fascinating because the enemies are so mismatched. You’ve got the Athenians in complete control of the sea, trying to somehow hurt the Spartans, who are only afraid of a land invasion of their territory. On the other side, the Spartans, with this powerful land army and no navy, are trying to get at the Athenians, who are secure as they have their walls, their tributary islands, and grain shipments from the Black Sea. Makes for a really interesting story…it’s kinda like the Cards and the Phillies, actually.

Also, hurray for history major day on VEB.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 13, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't even major in history

Core curriculum ftw.
I also took a Roman Republic class for fun once. We had/have a player in the minors who specializes in getting hit-by-pitches. I always wanted him to make it to the majors so I could nickname him Plunktator in honor of Fabius Maximus.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok. I can sort of see the historian perspective on this.

But one expedition was enough for me. There was never an epic victory or a crashing defeat, just lot’s of sieges, political speeches and island defections. It would not make good material for a movie. I guess I was also bitter because I had to drop the class because I couldn’t handle Thucydides’ Greek (much more difficult than Xenophon). But I did read the entire English translation.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 13, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually read a cool article about Xenophon recently in the Weekly Standard (I know this is borderline lolitics, please forgive me VEB)

Anyway, it was not a political article, just a literary one. It was about how Xenophon has often been unfairly treated by scholars because he wasn’t quite considered “true History” but often wasn’t considered “true Literature” either, or something like that. Made a compelling case that way more people should read and appreciate him. Interesting stuff.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Much of Xenophon is just a collection of interviews

and other sources that he merely reports. To me, he was not necessarily pushing a pro-Greek agenda. It is unfair to apply modern standards to such an ancient writer.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 13, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, the speeches can go on. and on.

there are some pretty huge turning points, though. Everyone’s world is upside down after Sphacteria, since they thought capturing Spartans alive was all but impossible. Then, the Athenians lose some unbelievably large portion of their populace in one blow at Syracuse, and still manage to win this series of increasingly improbable naval battles when their backs are against the wall…and then they lose, of course.

I’m impressed you managed to read any of those in the Greek—that’s a huge amount of dense material to translate.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 13, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. I couldn't handle Thucy's Greek.

I forgot how many weeks I lasted before I dropped the class.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 13, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, I was including Xenophon in that statement

I can’t imagine he’s exactly easy reading.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 13, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean WWI

kids these days and their german-bombing-pearl-harbour metaphors.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

watching albert pujols do EVERYTHING

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

(everything)

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was the first i've heard Carp's voice

huh

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

he even sounds smart

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Puma = Awesome

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coming off a bye week nonetheless.

Crazy Rams Fan in my office:

I could call a better game than [Josh McDaniels]. I’m serious. I’m a better play caller than that. We were better than the Redskins talent wise. I thought we were as good as the Eagles.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

They're confused.

Their primary stats is receptions. So they think they’re supposed to be receptionists.

You should see them transfer phone calls. Top notch.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The eagles have one win!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't at least one of their losses on Reid?

I’m recalling a game where he displayed the clock management skills of a 7 years old playing madden at the end of the 4th or at half or something, and the game still being within reach.

But then, I guess I could be remembering that from pretty much any year Andy Reid has been a head coach.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you can only recall one game where Reid displayed the clock managment skills of a child

I assume you’ve only watched him coach one game.

That’s his THING!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

you mean St.Louis still has a handegg team?

I had no idea….

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

the thing is, the rams are better than the redskins talent wise.

especially on offense. they just haven’t played like it yet, which is a coaching thing. your coworker is correct in identifying that the coaching has sucked, but obviously the comparisons between him calling a better game than mcdaniels and saying we were as good as the eagles make the statement ridiculous.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about albert heating up at the perfect time?

brewers wont take any chances on mang anymore…and if mattyho or freese or berk can knock in a hit this will get nasty

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 13, 2011 11:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i would really like all three, please.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

It'd be nice if we could get a man or two on in front of 'bert.

‘Cause then, they really wouldn’t have any choice but to deal with him.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

What a Maching
Albert Pujols has seven doubles in the postseason. He hit his seventh double of the regular season on June 4.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

seems like he's just having balls fall in at the right time

judging by what i’ve seen over the last couple days, he isn’t taking significantly better at bats

by prophetjohn on Oct 13, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You stole that thought from my brain about how Salas is being used.

I think the first set-up guy is a Thing.

Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Oct 13, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Took a gander at BrewCrewBall after game thread

Funny shit.

1. TLR and Big Mac should not be allowed to exist.
2. Cardinals bullpen sucks.
3. The Cardinals suck and didn’t win the game, Kotsay and Roenicke gave it away.
4. Damn Cardinals fans were screaming in their own stadium and were annoying. They are all damn bandwagon fans anyway.

"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter

by cardsfan59 on Oct 13, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah, i don't understand the whole "Cardinals bullpen sucks" thing

they must be looking at full season stats or something. Our bullpen is a considerable strength – maybe not as good as theirs, but a strength nonetheless.

by all4tookie on Oct 13, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, there's no big name guy out there.

Dotel and Rhodes are past due. The others are “kids.”

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

totally expired.

or totally pregnant…

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

highlights
It’s looking bleak. Can’t believe the Brewers can’t hit this bullpen
Come on offense, if you can’t score against this bullpen, so help me.
We could score 3 against Carpenter. And 27 against the bullpen.
Well the Cards bullpen is bad at least
Good thing their bullpen sucks.
Well, the Cardinal bullpen still isn’t very good.
What matters is the cardinals bullpen is terrible
Maybe we can tie it up and get to the crummy bullpen early.

by all4tookie on Oct 13, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

omg there are zombies in the bedroom!

…no, it’s just Sager looking for baseball cards.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

They do know that Franklin, Batista, Miller and Tallet are gone, right?

As I recall, the only person who’s been in the pen the entire season is Motte.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

and Boggs!

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang

by EinFesteBusch on Oct 13, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boggs went to Memphis at one point.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please TBS keep mentioning the blown saves stats.

It’s working.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's not really their fault

TBS, MLBN, and FESPN haven’t figured it out yet either.

Or bullpen sucked. We cut most of them, and brought up / traded for guys who didn’t suck. Except for Rhodes, who while he still sucks, was better than Miller and Tallet.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

he had a monster strike-out of Howard last series

but then again, who didn’t strike out Howard last series

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 pitches.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

FESPN game log page for Rhodes.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/2578/arthur-rhodes

Looks like he’s had 4 appearances for the Cards where he’s given up runs and another 4-ish where he just didn’t retire his guy. Don’t see any data for inherited runners allowed to score, tho’. Would fangraphs have that data?

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I was going to say too

TBS announcers kept saying this over and over

by OCCardsFan on Oct 13, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

they did watch the phillies series, correct?

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man it's gonna be fun beating them

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

the tbs guys have been talking frequently about the amount of blown saves our BP had

but then don’t mention that we got rid of all those guys who sucked.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

jeez i need to start reading threads all the way through

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

second.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seconded.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow, the democratic process actually works on VEB

I was afraid you were gonna invoke the procedural filibuster and block cloture

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We already invoked the Phillie-buster

OOOOHHHHHHH

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

no, bullshit

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got it.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

6th'd

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eventually they'll be saying

That at least the Cardinals can’t catch them in the standings. The Cards are currently 5 games back but can only make up 2 more games (/brewerthink).

by olddomination on Oct 13, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK

I just read the majority of last night’s victory celebration thread. Ummm, wow, just wow. That was a VEB all-star thread if I’ve ever read one. Took a turn for the surreal!

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 13, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah,

and now we need introduce RB to some very nice African-American homosexual gentlemen too?

And Astroglide is an acceptible condiment for turkey?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 13, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess i have to go read it now.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am looking for Torty and/or Happy Flight shirts

and all I have seen thus far are Rinawear’s offerings…not the best.

Probably a rehashed topic, but does anyone have links to any other online options? Thanks.

by CBonerfied on Oct 13, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Fanshot link

Brackenthebox’s

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I ended up taking the file he posted to a local store that makes shirts.

$20 and 20 minutes later, it was done (nice shirt, too! American Apparel)

by a fink on Oct 13, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

hipster

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

oh no u di-n't

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Done

As I said on Facebook, not sure quite this minute. The wife has an early day today though so we can look at schedule stuff. Hope to get back to you as soon as I can.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

watch it

we Matty’s have been described as the nasty, poisonous octopus of VEB

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

My girlfriend loved these

So we bought two of brackenthebox’s last night

"And that youngster will leave the stadium with a souvenir today. Not a ball, but a nice looking bruise."- Mike Shannon

by wizard11 on Oct 13, 2011 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've got one and I wore it last night when we scored

Changed out of it so I didn’t get spaghetti sauce on it, the brewers scored 3, then I hanged back into it and we held on. I’m going tonight and I’ll be wearing it under my Eckstien jersey, I also bought my uncle one and he’s getting his today

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

But I bought them off the TortyCraig linked site

I assume BETB still gets paid for it. I missed that fanatic and had no idea how else to get it

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 12:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

As corrected below, fanshot

Autocorrect, annoying

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 12:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That is unfortunate

The other guys are selling shirt for 30-40 buck, all he had to do was mark it up a couple of bucks and it would have sold just as well and made him money

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

But I bought them off the TortyCraig linked site

I assume BETB still gets paid for it. I missed that fanshot and had no idea how else to get it

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 12:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

also, something tells me nyjer morgan will start tonight

could kotsay start in place of corey hart too, considering harts slump and his poor numbers vs lohse

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 13, 2011 11:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I only wish Hart would not play

He hits us too well not to play. Mini slump or not. T-flush has looked worse hitting than Hart in playoffs if my memory serves.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 13, 2011 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Cardinals

Playing baseball in October – what a concept. Back in June, when the Cardinals were really struggling and Albert was hitting a soft .250, I posted a prediction – out of frustration – that they would win 76 games. That was stupid, but I think, speak and write a lot of stupid stuff, so it was not surprising.
 As I look at this team now, I see it as something very special. As special maybe as the ‘64 team. I was at Sportsmans Park for game 6, when the M&M boys whipped us. I couldn’t get tickets to game 7. Yes, I’m that old.
 Bit this team is, in some ways, every bit as special. They may not win the World Series, they may not even get there, but these guys are not doing this with smoke and mirrors – they have coalesced into a very fine team. And they have done this in a very short time. Looking at what his team was in late August and looking at them now can give you whiplash. In the Universe of Baseball, this sort of thing generally only happens in your dreams. Somewhere Jack Buck is smiling – Go crazy Birds fans, live your dream…

by deweydell on Oct 13, 2011 11:25 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I think no matter the outcome this postseason

many of us are going to look back at ’11 in wonderment.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

the zombies are coming this way!!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

and that is precisely our edge. its easy to stay positive when you weren't even supposed to be here today!

(unless you’re that clerks guy, i guess…)

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't begrudge you your mid-season sentiment...

I still have no fucking clue how we’re in the playoffs, in the NLCS, and up one game.

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was with you.

I’ve been cussing the bullpen the whole season. Now I’m saying, “Who are these guys and will they come back next year?” It’s been alot of fun and I hope we have Cardinal baseball for a couple more weeks.

by illcowboy on Oct 13, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

64 is irreplaceable

starting infield for all start game, all cardinals

i just was so sad stan retired at the end of the mad dash of 63

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 13, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Berk wins NL Comeback Player of the Year!

yay Berk!

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 13, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

aw crap

find=“Comeback” failure, should have tried “Come back” also. NexDef’d

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 13, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's so nice it's worth saying twice!

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i rec'd it again

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This year is different

In 2002, it was a team of destiny.
In 2004, we were trying to live up to our record.
In 2005, we were trying not to completely lose the window.
In 2006, we we a rag tag bunch that it felt like everything had to go right.
In 2009, it was over before it started

This year, we are just really fucking good and its a lot of fun to watch.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 13, 2011 11:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

density.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

LCS

2002 Key absence: Rolen
2004 Key absence: Carpenter
2005 Key absence: Rolen
2006 Key absence (which was a positive): Isringhausen
2011 Key absence: Wainwright

by olddomination on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

[weep]

still so handsome

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That dumbass

"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower

by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

goddammit

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

'06 we lost Mulder

and had to rely on Anthony Reyes for most of the season

by dmiles on Oct 13, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

2009 was a fucking great summer.

and don’t any of you forget it.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you think my friends and I are doing playoff mustaches?

Which so far are working

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 12:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

all of these teams were good. well, maybe not '09...

A few were better, but all were really good. some just had better breaks. that’s baseball.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matthew Mark Lugo & John

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since they used Narveson last night,

does that pretty much guarantee we see Marcum again if it comes to that point?

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think so.

He only threw 13 pitches.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guarantee, no.

And I’m still strongly of the opinion that Marcum is either pitching hurt or just totally out of gas (which is kind of the same thing). So I’m happy to see Narveson every time he comes out of the pen, and happy to hear Roenicke saying Marcum’s their guy.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

not quite

BCB’s opinion was that it makes it more likely that marcum pitches, though

seems like starting marcum would be the intelligent managerial decision to make since he’s the better pitcher, though

by prophetjohn on Oct 13, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I trust the Cardinals to hit Marcum better

Mainly just because I trust us more to hit a right hander. I feel like (too lazy to look up) we’ve done poorly against Narveson in the past.

by jibbers on Oct 13, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Curious what you guys are going to be for Halloween

Probably going to be a zombie again. Last year I hooked up 2 portable tv’s with 2 video camera’s so you could see yourself through me. So it looked like I had a big hole through my stomach. But it was burdensome to carry that all around. My problem this year is the liquid latex is not gong to work well with my playoff beard.

by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 13, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

animals might be big.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

walking in the Alton Parade with the Alton Undead

This year theme is Hollywood based, so I’m a zombie David Bowie as Jareth

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zomblin King?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

ayup

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

with the shiv

….wait

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

how very rays of you

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

like

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not very creative. But I guess Halloween is the time to dress up as something you could never be in real life. Boom.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

that hurts, bm

do you mind if i call you bm. sometimes it means bowel movement

by prophetjohn on Oct 13, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

That was just plain mean.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Also my Mario hat will be a Memphis Redbirds hat

I do what I do

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 12:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm gonna be a cowboy

who listen to Kenny Chesney’s “There Goes My Life” over and over again and is really emotional every time, especially during the end.

by LandSickness on Oct 13, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

my bf and i want to do something 90s

last year we were 80s brett michaels and cyndi lauper. i’m thinking kurt cobain and courtney love. but he wants to have like a fake bullet hole and blood on the side of his head. is that in poor form?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

So definitely do it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Halloween

It’s supposed to be in poor form.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 13, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's awesome.

It’s not like he just shot himself yesterday. Courtney Love probably did do coke yesterday so I advise that you hit some crack first.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

this should be green

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're going to dress up as a coked-out whore?

pics pleez. that oughta be good for a laff or two

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why I'm Facebook friends with her

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Creepy

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 13, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Zombie Osama bin Laden in poor taste?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably. one should be all the way dead.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Asian Zombie bin Laden

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

not at all

This was from a zombie birthday party just a few nights after he was killed.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right now?

…maybe

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

My best was when I went as Beaker.

One of my few talents is imitating the Beaker frown, and the rest of the costume wasn’t too hard to assemble.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

My most successful costume (as an adult) was Ashley Schaeffer from Eastbound & Down.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to go as TLR

But then I’d have to get a TLR jersey.

I’ve even been practicing that weird thing he does with his lips all the time.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 13, 2011 1:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

you will be mistaken for Kyle Lohse

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Columbian drug dealer.

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 13, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been told I should go as Mayem

So I will.

I’m all..“OMG”…beckys not even hot.

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"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 13, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

 *****I googled “Mayem” and this is what I got….a Minnesota Timberwolves cheerleader named Mayem*****

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I like her

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haaaave you met RockStark?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i totally thought about it.

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by rocKStark5 on Oct 13, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Red Sox,

Please STFU. It’s not about you.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Relevant.
@baseball_ref
Baseball Reference
Breaking news: Franchise gives up hope. Red Sox to disband, Fenway demolition to begin next Monday. #calmdown #peoplechangejobs

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

so much for not upstaging the playoffs

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

ESPN does stand for Eastcoast SPorts Network

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eastern Seaboard Propaganda Network

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Highlight of my morning

I love listening to Colin on ESPN radio. He talked briefly (in joking tone) about ’06 Cards being lead into WS by Saul Iguchi. I felt the obligation to tweet him and told him close So Taguchi. Saul Iguchi sounded like some sort of hybrid of Italian/Japanese immigrant.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 13, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

he also kept saying the Cards were 82-80.

He then instructed the Cardinals to get out of the way of hisBrewers

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's a dick

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on.

You can’t expect a sports talker to know all the little details, like the final standings at the end of a season.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't like him too much.

most of the time he just seems like a turd.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds more like a Jewish designer of Italian shoes

"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower

by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean Sal(vatore) E. Gucci?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea he's a guy of extremes

The ones who love his show really love his show (definitely me). Ones who don’t really hate his show. I like him bc he is a dick sometimes. He was using a joking tone when talking about the Cards to get out of the way. Again he’s not for everybody.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 13, 2011 3:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

was that part of his daily 12 seconds he allows for baseball

“because nobody watches it anymore”?

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

What is this “baseball” you speak of?

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 12:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

AHAHAHAHAH

British Newspaper attempts to describe Carl Crawford

Asked if the signing of Crawford, the left-arm outfielder contracted for $140m in wages over seven years, whose performances were disappointing this season, represented overspending, Henry defended the 30-year-old

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 13, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

i had no idea john henry had such a history in baseball.

he’s owned parts or the whole of three (or four, can’t quite tell) organizations so far.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he said, "this sport'll be the death of me, lord god, this sport'll be the death of me."

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

no kidding.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha

Wages

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 13, 2011 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

VolsnCards5'd

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Oct 13, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyong!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck

Sig WIP

by hr on Oct 13, 2011 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sager is still on the loose!

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

how can i get these emails?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

buy tickets.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

or ask one of us who did buy tics this year to forward it to you.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 13, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

will one of you who did buy tics this year forward that to me if it is about WS tickets?

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently, I'm going ro Hot Shots in Fenton to watch the game tonight.

Anybody been there for a game before? Insight on the atmosphere? I’ve never been to a Hot Shots. I presume it’s some sort of Hooter’s clone?

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I was there Monday night.

Plenty of TVs, and play the audio throughout the bar.

by Davis51 on Oct 13, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of dudes

and then some trashy-hot waitresses (or more accurately, waitresses trying to be trashy-hot but pulling off the “trashy” more than the “hot”)

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Hoosier Shots. Smokey ass bar filled with bumpkins.

Plus side is they may have 1 or 2 legit girls there and they have to wear under armor volleyball shorts.

Their bikini contests are cringe worthy.

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by rocKStark5 on Oct 13, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a reason volleyball is my favorite women's sport to watch.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the shorts help, but aren't the main reason.

i just find tall girls very attractive. every girl that plays volleyball is AT LEAST 5’8

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife is 5'4".

Setters are short.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's true.

also, what’s the name of the position that plays defense and isn’t allowed to hit the ball near the net? they’re usually short too.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that the librero

or libretto or ??? anyway, some strange name that starts with lib. My daughter’s roomie her sophomore year was one and I asked her what the word meant. (don’t really remember the answer now)

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 13, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

libero

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 13, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the word

is the the position il rosso referenced above?

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 13, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

they are a defensive player only that subs in and out of the back row for multiple players.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

setters can be, yes.

but that’s what, one maybe two girls on the roster? and even some setters are taller.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

every girl that plays volleyball is AT LEAST 5’8

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's not fair, he said that all the way up there!

in other news, hyperbole is a type of metaphor

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

jesus christ.

most every. nitpick to death, would ’ya.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

now i'm trying to think of a women's,

non-olympic, sport that i like watching.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tennis and Roller Derby

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"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 13, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tennis is in the Olympics now.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

the waitresses sound like my type of lady.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who?

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 13, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

AAA catcher.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brewer's annoucer

who we have to listen to call the games.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That guy who was on the White Sox who people thought might be good?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forecast is for 20 mph winds blowing out to right.

Prediction: David Freese is going to hit another homer.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

sounds right

He’s on fire and MLW has too many other people to worry about

"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower

by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

But so will Braun:(

And fielded:(

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 13, 2011 1:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fielder

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 13, 2011 1:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is this the best time ever to be a Cardinals fan?

Not success wise but talent wise?

Each great era post WWII had a great player:
Musial – generational hitter
Gibson – clutch pitcher
Ozzie – fan favorite all world defender

We have all 3 right now.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 13, 2011 12:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

the defender is obviuosly Eriot.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pujols, Carp, Molina

Pujols, alltime NLCS offensive player, alltime Cards postseason hitter

Carp, tied with Gibby for most postseason wins, 5-0 at home in postseason

Molina, great defender, fan favorite, improbable NLCS HR

Stan, Gibby and Ozzie are the 3 that go up on the Mt. Rushmore of Cardinals fandom and we’ve got their comps all playing at same time.

Gibby had Brock but he was never as dominate an offensive player as Pujols. Stan had great pitchers but not the level of success Carp has had and Ozzie was surrounded by a team that was the sum of its parts.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 13, 2011 1:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well Molina and Carpenter are poor man's versions of Ozzie and Gibson

That’s not really a knock on Molina or Carpenter.

But yeah, it’s a good time to be a Cards fan.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 13, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohniceparadeyou'rehavingTHUNDERSTORM

Carp and Gibson aren’t comparable. At the same age, Gibson had pitched A THOUSAND more innings. If Gibson were on the team now, we’d be like man, I love Bob Gibson, and also Chris Carpenter is very good. And also those two would be the most furious pitching combination ever. So, so many beanball wars.

Anyway, I really love Chris Carpenter, but, eh. The important point is that I feel more affection toward this baseball team than any in my lifetime, with the possible exception of the ’09 squad. There were mustaches, then.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Carp-Gibby thing seemed crazy to me at first,

but actually, Carp is better than Gibson was at this age. Gibson just spent his peak years setting ERA records instead of breaking records for number of arm surgeries.

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 13, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but even adjusting for era's

Gibson was like 2.5 times more valuable than Carp so far – at least according to baseball reference.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah yes, i see

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you took Carp's 6 best (2004-06,09-11)

And Gibby’s 6 best seasons, what are their values to the Cardinals respectively?

Likewise, is there another pitcher postWW2 that is better than Carp for the Cards over a number of seasons?

I’m just asking, not trying to bolster an argument. I’m trying to figure out where Carp ranks.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 13, 2011 2:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If Carp and Gibby were on the same team

who wouldn’t give a fuck the most?

damn, should that be “Who gives a the least fuck?”?
?

I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.

by Hootie Who on Oct 13, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say Gibby.

He just sounds like a badass even now. He was the one that would get pissed at teammates if they joked around with the other team in season.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just envisioned

a must-win game 7 scenario when Carp and Gibby are both available. TLR rolls the ball onto the mound from the dugout, and whoever comes up with it gets the start, XFL style.

by all4tookie on Oct 13, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

the carnage from that would rival all the footage

from the last three wars combined.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

An interesting scenerio

but if we had Carp and Gibby on the same team, we would never need seven games to win anything.

by dmiles on Oct 13, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

My regular schedule dictates that I don't sleep on Tuesday nights,

but coming into this past Tuesday night I was more underslept than usual, so I consumed a comically large amount of caffeine to get me through. Except I haven’t had any caffeine since 2008.
It turns out there are very unpleasant side effects if you take in that much caffeine when it’s foreign to your body.
So I discovered what it feels like to be a ghost yesterday.
That was much more backstory than you were interested to hear, but the result is upon arriving home after my last class, I only stayed awake long enough to take off my pants. I then slept for 16-17 hours.

I’ve read the boxscore and a recap, but am missing so much of the game.
please help

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Offense first, Carp "gutsy", Bullpen nails. Success!

Also, RB had an epiphany.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh goodness.

don’t do that again.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely don't plan to.

Another side effect: I kept waiting for my heart to explode.
I answered your link request in the other thread, a day late. It’s not as good as they led you to believe.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

rereading your sig. hmmm.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I both do and don't miss the college all nighters.

The worst was my freshman year when I hadn’t slept for something stupid like 60 hours or something. I blacked out, woke up 15 hours later in a different wing of the dorm with no idea how I got there. Freaked me out.

You’ll feel fine again by tomorrow. It’s kind of like a hangover.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I pulled 0 all-nighters in college

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i pulled more all nighters in college than i can count

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by tehzachatak on Oct 13, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not in college, but there was this girl in Kaiserslautern . . . . .

What a night (sigh)

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by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

I used to live there!

DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!

by Vindicator9000 on Oct 13, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa

My sister-in-law and her husband just moved there

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Oct 13, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did it a couple times a semester and never really felt that bad

But then I realized that my performance went to shit and started taking care of business responsibly.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 13, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now let's all take a moment and remember

that if you are at a teaching hospital, there’s a good chance your doctor has been pull all-nighters once or twice a week. How can anyone think this is a good idea?

by brackenthebox on Oct 13, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've pulled zero true all nighters.

i had one night where i “stayed up” until 7:30, then took what was basically a 2.5 hour nap. that was a monday night/tuesday morning and i didn’t feel normal again until thursday.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is that even possible?

Are the Chinese as efficient at time management as they are at multiplying?
Which reminds me, are you amazing at multiplying large numbers in your head? In one of my classes, one kid did this really impressive multiplication in his head. The professor asked how he did it, and the kid said, “I’m Chinese.”
I asked the Chinese kid next to me if he could do that too, and he admitted that he can.
So can you do this, or is this more of a “I was raised in China” thing?
If this sounds racist, I apologize.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm out of practice with the whole "math" thing

But I can multiply faster than the average person, I would think.

Also, the Econ department as USC is really, really easy. I never had to write any papers, or do any big projects, so that’s why I never had to stay up all night. And I’m really good at studying, so that doesn’t take me too long

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, the Econ department as USC is really, really easy.

should have gone to a real school man

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by tehzachatak on Oct 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get an Econ degree from a Top-25 school

I ain’t care

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

did they teach you anything about exchanging your services (ie work)

for money (ie a salary)?

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHA JOKE NO LONGER RELEVANT PUNK

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

d'oh

shoulda z’d a bit further before posting

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by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never had to write any papers, or do any big projects

i’m an econ minor at an inferior school and have done both of these things multiple times.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Picking an easy department at a well-ranked school is the new inefficiency

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me neither. Well, to study at least.

Never pulled an all-nighter in law school either. Came close a couple times, but never did it.

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John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

me neither

in college or law school. i mean, sometimes i stayed up all night, but not to study.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, this

We went camping one night at Joshua Tree. CRAZAY

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i stayed up all night the night before our homecoming parade

working on the float. i was drunk when the night started, then sobered up until about 8 when we started drinking OJ and vodka. then i went to the parade, came home and took a nap, went to the homecoming game, got drunk, then went to dinner with my dad and sobered up, then went to a house party and got drunk again.

i could never do that now.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a job with the Student Affairs Department in undergrad

I had to handle most of the logistics for the homecoming parade one year (sound equipment, staging for important people, etc…), I got it all set up the night before, pulled an all-nighter, went back to make sure it worked out, fell asleep mid parade on a bench in the town square. A cop woke me up 2 hours later… I have no idea how I was not fired or robbed.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I pull an all-nighter before each and every exam for law school (usually 3 or 4 a semester)

After the exam period is over, I feel as close to death as one can probably feel without actually suffering from any real maladies or infirmities (other than sleep deprivation), but it’s worked really well so far, so I guess I’ll stick with it.

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG

really? damn. those 4 hour exams are difficult enough. i cannot imagine pulling an allnighter beforehand. what if you have two exams in the same day?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

For my JD program,

2 exams in the same day would have been an exam conflict and they’d let you take the later one on a designated make-up day. Same for exams on 3 consecutive days – they’d move the middle one.

It’s not as much of an issue if you’ve got open exam scheduling, where you just go in and take them whenever you want.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, that stuff is for pansies!!!

Geez. Law school is easy if that’s the case. ( I jest, sort of)

My next certification is 4 hours one day and 8 the next.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 13, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

law school is certainly not easy,

at least from the experiences of my friends who have gone.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

First year is the real challenge.

If you get through that, you can figure out the system and know what you need to do.

Also, hooking up with a good study group helps.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't tempt me

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

do it

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm at work!

I actually have to accomplish things now that I’m getting paid

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

no really, post the chipmunk gifs.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

People make it a little harder than it needs to be, IMO.

Grades are curved, so it’s competitive, and the student body tends to be made up of people who have strong work ethics anyway. It all adds up to everybody trying to outwork everybody else, which just compounds itself. We’d have learned just as much by working a little less, I think. And been less tired all the time.

Exam times are still awful, though.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

we aren't allowed to have two in the same day

and my exams are always at 9:00 AM. Sure, they’re usually four grueling hours, but where I conserve some energy and spare myself is that I never really start studying until 2 or 3 days before the particular exam I’m taking (whereas most other students have been killing themselves with weeks or even months of study).

In general, it is probably not a good study strategy but it works fine for me.

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

we could and did have two in one day. 8-12 and 1-5. that only happened to me once or twice.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doctoral comps:

8 am – 4 pm five days in a row

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Oct 13, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yikes. and I thought the three day exam was bad.

3 exam days, 1 and a half (or ’til whenever) oral., with a two day break between written and oral, which was really a defense (not the dissertation defense, but the comps).

I think you brits have it rougher.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Britophile, not Brit

That was one department at one US university (Wis), but I think not unusual.

Orals didn’t come til I finished my dissertation six years later, and that’s a different animal, and as my father had told me it’s a different animal:
a) It’s basically a hazing session—faculty’s last chance to make you feel like a worm before handing you the license to make other people feel like worms
b) If you don’t know more about the subject than any of your examiners you won’t get to the exam anyway.

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Oct 13, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dissertation orals are sometimes a hazing session

My committee was purposely stacked with three people who either had no idea what I was talking about, or were dead set against the theoretical paradigm I was working with, or both. My director, however, was a peach. so, you didn’t have orals with comps, too?

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, there was a post-exam review of the comps,

but that was just a nominal hour – mostly an opportunity for the peaches to blush and the swine to grunt.

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Oct 13, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

mostly an opportunity for the peaches to blush and the swine to grunt.

I love VEB.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it seems to be a sort of VEB Feast of Fools, when the Humanities folk get out of the basement.

Cue Prisoners’ Chorus from Fidelio.

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Oct 13, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

your signature is possibly

the best that could ever exist.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair

you are holding human lives in your hands, so you should be testing comprehensively

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would not work for me.

i admire your ability to deal with no sleep.

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John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just pulled one last night.

Fun times.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 13, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good post out of context

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever.

In context I am clearly probably not all here right now.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 13, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

o/

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

\o

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 13, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it still wasn't enough...

I hate this class.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 13, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unlike you, I have a work ethic

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have intermittent work ethic

I knocked off the 5 page research essay in 3 hours. But yeah, probably shouldn’t have waited till one to start.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't either

only all-nighters I’ve ever pulled were for work. We had one customer (research reactor) that required >24 hour runs so, as manager, I often got the call to man the midnight-8 a.m. shift. I’d try to go home between 5 and midnight for a quick nap, but usually didn’t get much of one with a kiddo at home that wanted to visit/play with Daddy.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 13, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do not miss

Those nights at all. The anxiety of not knowing if you have enough time. Hating yourself for procrastinating…

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I had to stay up all last night writing an essay

Well actually I finished the essay by 4, but then i watched south park until my first class started. Now i have to stay up for my next class and then watch the game. It’s gonna be a trippy game.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I really liked that part where Albert Pujols hit a home run and the fans melted into an ocean of colors and Ryan Braun's face literally melted"

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 13, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

congrats!

seriously, that’s awesome.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's funny is that they don't sign new contracts until the end of November

So they’re just giving me a stipend until then, which is exactly what they do for our trialist player. I’m a trialist!

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome!

do you get the stipend all at once then?

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so

It’s like winning a very small lottery!

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it taxable?

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by vico on Oct 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

immediately convert it all into AWESOME STUFF and celebrate the extra month and a half of stuff-enjoying.

that’s what that means, right?

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

that way you beat inflation!

here’s more prudent consumer advice from me:

YOU GUYS THE CHASE SAPPHIRE CARD IS REALLY PRETTY AND HAS NO PRE-SET SPENDING LIMIT!!!

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

iPhone 4S here I come!

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

you suck

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

False

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

jealous

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 13, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then I can view your Torty gifs in iMessage even more quickly!

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

just prepare for animated cocks

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by tehzachatak on Oct 13, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like roosters, right?

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet.

essentially like a nice hiring bonus. don’t spend it all in one place (or do. like on WS tix or something).

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give it two weeks

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Impressive and awesome, congratulations.

(on the hiring part)

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moses?

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nope, correct answer was Hitler

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

in this economy?

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by vico on Oct 13, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

They always said we'd lose Jobs in this economy

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

groan -- heh

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by vico on Oct 13, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too soon?

Badly timed jokes. Literally a minute or two before we knew for sure it wasn’t a hoax I stick my foot in my mouth.

by Danrarbc on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

congrats man

Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

by tehzachatak on Oct 13, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

my pool of potential jokes sigificantly decreased

by prophetjohn on Oct 13, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit.

Rice is the step right after boil water.

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 13, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fritz is being dumb

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This, I just cannot fathom.

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 13, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He still hasn't answered

Maybe it was the intern who sat next to him

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome!

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats

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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 13, 2011 1:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

When do you get your own intern?

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 13, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, but I need one for real

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's less helpful than it might seem like it would be.

Interns are generally terrible at being interns.

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 13, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck I just need them to do all the data mining that I don't wanna do

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had an intern fail at stapling paper together.

Paper! Staples! Jesus!

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Oct 13, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, some staplers just really suck

It’s not the intern’s fault

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should get one of those automatic ones

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

except wannabe good interns that can't seem to land an internship.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay for Rui!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 13, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

congratulations.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad that it worked for ya!

Now, what kinda free shit can you get us?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just enough to not get the equipment guy fired!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is this not green.

congratulations rui!

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

thatsracist.gif

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 13, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

so apparently they don't make men's sherseys in small

i’m pretty pissed.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

How about a childs Large?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

problem with that is the neck holes are really tiny

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Small, like a men's small?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes. i want a men's small size shersey

medium is the smallest size available on the internets

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa, you can get theriot and schumaker sherseys

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I WANT A FREESE SHERSEY DAMNIT

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get a medium.

Eat some sandwiches.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

and some strategically safety pins

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

here

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have a women's waino one, and i never wear it because it fits funny

the t-shirt material is weird.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Propose to him, marry him, just wear his real jersey

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

at this point, i would settle for berk

none of those either.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

*settle* for berk? er

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks.

i have regular jerseys for both of them already though. but i appreciate it!

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

so nice of joe strauss and bj rains to show up in the thread yesterday.

we need to get these kids off our lawn.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

wait, what?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a couple of new kids

scoot christened as bj rains and joe strauss (mainly because they were being nonsensical asses, which i use in the fondest possible way in case they see this comment; i don’t want to drive people away from the community in any way and i realize we have a bit of a learning curve).

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, they're not new, just infrequent commenters.

one didn’t know what GOB stood for, so he’s probably pretty far out of the loop.

the christening thread is here.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

additionally,

one of them called holliday’s second strikeout and then got all sanctimonious when it happened, and people rode him pretty hard for it.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

emotions run high.

he was kind of being a jerk about it, like see, see who was right, i was right, gimme my props and then people were like no.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean...

calling a strike out of Holliday and then bragging about it ain’t right. I don’t recall people being too harsh on the guy. But then again, i resorted to drinking.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

epic

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bravo.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure how i feel about VEB being compared

to those exact characters but well done.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm,

is AZ Boggs then?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 13, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Literature fail

What is this a parody of?

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shawshank Redemption

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Now picture Fritz as Red)

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahhh yes

That sounded familiar.

Thanks.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

the learning curve

that’s one of the reasons this is a good community. it’s a good mix of no-nonsense “no, you’re wrong” and patient “here’s why”

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

bastards deserved it

they were both trolling. Then they basically started making out in the thread.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what The Sisters would say!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hahahahaha

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

So damn funny.

Rains face inserted.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 13, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

que?

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS IS CREEPY

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

This is old news

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damnit you lied you sonuvabitch

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

we can't see his hands.

I just assumed.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude!

he’s supposed to go to the porn cave!

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, no proof means she doesn't exist.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 13, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

but who can vouch for d-dee's?

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that d-dee exists

I don’t believe she’s above being bribed to lie to us.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can vouch that a d-dee exists

It can be found wandering Busch Stadium during cardinal home games.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found three hot chicks so far

I’m bored.

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't see myself. it's depressing.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not there either.

Just my empty seat. Too bad they don’t have one from game 4

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not in that picture for that exact problem

I ran out of Beer, and had to go get one.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

They cost 9 dollars.

9 DOLLARS!

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not even good beer.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm happy they are that expensive really

I’m a leading proponent for binge drinking, but there’s nothing more annoying than the drunk asshole who knows nothing about baseball yelling SWING on every pitch. $9 per tends to limit that.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 13, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's something more annoying than that

The RICH drunk asshole who knows nothing about baseball yelling SWING on every pitch.

Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Oct 13, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would solve a lot of problems

Creates a few more problems, but it’d probably be a value creating policy on the whole.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 13, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean like going into a corn maze?

and, no, nobody gives a shit about the fact they had a three-week old baby. you carry an extra couple of diapers and milk (if you’re not breastfeeding) wherever you go. you’re parents. it’s not like anybody released wolves into the maze. the worst thing that woudl happen is you’d walk around another 30 minutes till you found your way out.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i get lost in corn mazes

and yes this has happened before
i just walk through the corn until i’m no longer in the corn. screw the path.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

other people don't do this?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

THROW STRIKES

I kind of hate those people.

Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Oct 13, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I told a story a while back about my encounter at a game

had a girl behind me who was screaming:

“you’re supposed to hit the ball fair, not foul”
“you’re supposed to catch the ball”
“you’re supposed to hit the ball, not strike out”
“you’re supposed to throw a strike, not a ball”
“you’re supposed to swing, not look at the pitch”
“you’re supposed to get the bunt down, not strike out”

I was half-tempted to give up my “greatest fan in baseball” tag and punch her square in the baby-maker

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 13, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd while laughing.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

tom s. strikes again

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last game I was at, my first $9 beer got knocked over in the bleacher seats.

Could not bring myself to pay for another.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

$8.75 for a bottle of bud select.

no. thank. you.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

GO CARDS!!!

:=8D

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Oct 13, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, coolstandings.

they gave up a 49% before last night and still predicted the brewers in 6. today, they have us at 68% and are taking us in 5.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

they seem to fluctuate pretty wildly.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean it's definitely advantage cardinals...

but to say we’re not even going to go back to milwaukee? i would LOVE that, but don’t think it’s going to happen.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

headed down again tonight/tomorrow?

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tonight, yeah

I made the sore mistake of not buying tickets to all three

by LandSickness on Oct 13, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

fail.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

via WWL

Cards are the 4th team to score in the 1st in 5 consecutive postseason games

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

the team that is going to lose the ALCS is playing the team that is going to lose the world series in about 90 minutes.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think verlander comes through tonight

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

as do i.

send it back to texas at the very least.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 hours 42 minutes.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Reply fail.

Damn it.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, this astros-to-the-AL thing might actually be happening

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Cool with it.

Intuitively, that it makes it incrementally easier to make the playoffs in the NL (even w/o the extra wild card). And interleague throughout the year isn’t a big deal.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will literally puke if that happens.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

But nobody wants to watch pitchers bat!

They want to watch 2011 Adam Dunn.

… ?

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fits our team well though

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Houston wouldn't move until 2013.

2012 schedule is locked in place.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh, they are gonna win 20 games next year

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And lose ticket sales.

No reason for all the transplanted Cubs and Cardinals fans to visit MMP anymore.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh shit oh shit oh shit

I just realized how this move affects me

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't see cards games anymore?

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

not completely true

if they expand the interleague play then we’d still end up playing either Texas or Houston occasionally.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

but I don't like expanded interleague!

I don’t even like unexpanded interleague.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not crazy about it.

 But, whatcha gonna do?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd settle for Budbusters.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the current interleague system is seriously flawed

this was the first year we played in Baltimore. Isnt there still an AL team that hasnt played here yet?

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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

angels?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

Brad Penny’s grand slam came against the Angels. That was the first (and I think only) visit to Busch though.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jo-El!

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

I remember the Angels being in town just after Jack Buck died.

by Davis51 on Oct 13, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

9 games in Houston each year

equals roughly 90,000 tickets sold to Cardinal fans for weeknight games (St. Louis never plays weekend games here).

Replace 6 of those games with (random AL West opponent) and ask yourself is the team gonna make up those lost 60,000 sales?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying it's a good idea.

I was just replying to vep that clank could still catch the occasional Cards game with the expansion. But yes, Houston is screwing the proverbial pooch on this deal.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubtful.

Dallas people don’t travel to Houston. It’s beneath them.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

a single example from this year

the Cards played @HOU Tue-Thu 6/7-6/9 with attendance of: 23277, 22107, 24482

three weeks later, TEX was @HOU for Tue-Thu with attendance of 29132, 24472, 25938

Obviously interleague still has a certain mystique, but I don’t think losing the Cardinals is really going to be the major problem here.

by brackenthebox on Oct 13, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

took you a while.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is worse than I first realized.

AL West:
Seattle
Oakland
Anaheim
Texas

Do any of these teams have fanbases spread like Chicago or St. Louis?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

and it will divide the Texas allegiances

I know many fans who like both the Astros and Rangers, but will pick sides if they join divisions.
Okay, so I only know Astros fans who like the Rangers when October starts.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim Crane

must desparately want a team to pay what he paid for it and then to agree to move it to a division that seems like it will diminish the value.

by redbirds34 on Oct 13, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay VEB

if you could get rid of the DH rule entirely by accepting the double wild-card 10-team playoff format, would you make that trade?

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

My answer is contingent on this as well.

If both wildcards face a 1-game “play in” round against each other, I’ll trade that for the DH going away.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

no.

i’m fine with the dh in the al. i think it serves to differentiate the leagues. i’m not fine with an overly bloated number of playoff teams.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on who the second wild card played.

I really dislike DH, and would probably go second wild card if I had to choose between the two, as long as it was a plan in between the wild cards — it’d be basically like the Game 163 there was a couple years back with the Twins.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the double wild-card play-in game for 3 reasons:

1. Makes it more valuable to win the division (avoiding that play-in).
2. There’s a rest and rotation set-up penalty for the the wild-card team that advances to divisional play.
3. 1 more elimination game, which is fun.

by a fink on Oct 13, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could live with that.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh no now we have two posts for people to "agree/this/+1"

and this will disperse the number and we won’t look so solidly in agreement!

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

divide and conquer

it’s an age old strategy.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

tl;dr

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i never can remember what the hell that means.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

too long; did not read

it is also pronounced “teal deer”

i have acquaintances who cannot see it without seeing a blue doe.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks.

I will now try to commit this to memory so I don’t have to ask again.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

mad geniuses never do

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, as much as I am enjoying this run

somehow punishing the wild card teams might even things out.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's unusual that something being sold as expanding the playoff field

actually makes it more fair (in that they have a bigger advantage) to the best teams.

by a fink on Oct 13, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

well we would have had to actually play the Braves for that berth

so it would be less crazy, but maybe more fair.

good thing zombies don’t understand the concept.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

one hopes we're not the brains-eating sort.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

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by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're an asshat

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a great little X-Files.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's good for the fans.

At most times, it seems like there are at least 2-3 teams which are playoff locks for 4-5 years at a time, and some more so. It’s easy for fans of teams like the Cardinals, Yankees, etc to not want more teams are, but there are fans of teams who almost never get to see post-season baseball. As long as it’s just something simple like a 1 game bash against the two wild cards, I don’t see the harm.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

I like the DH.

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by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is stupid

then there will be 2 texas teams in the same division. That just doesn’t sound right. Each should be in different leagues, like the Yanks/Mets, Dodgers/Angels, Cubs/Sox.

Maybe take the astros to the NL West and the Padres to the AL West or something

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by hr on Oct 13, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps in true texan fashion, they should declare an independent league of the republic of texas

comprised only of the rangers and astros.

then we’d have an even 28 teams to divide into the NL and AL, 14-14.

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by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

this idea is the best idea.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

skirts on politics but hilarious

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

the "texas is the best"

attitude i get from most texans transcends politics.

/endthistrackofconversation

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is true

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

did anyone see the south park last night?

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I have it recorded at home. I plan on watching it while I get my pre game drunk on. Was it any good?

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

it was funny

had a kind of classic south park vibe.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Cards go on an win the WS

does that make the Rasmus trade acceptable?

by egc80 on Oct 13, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't think the results of this season

effect the reasoning people had behind their dislike of the trade.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

His comments in Toronto kinda gave me a sour feeling, though

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know the quotes offhand, and am too lazy to search for the article

But it was posted here several times

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

His attitude around the time of the trade bugged me.

He just seemed to have a “whatever” attitude, and was seemed slightly surprised, like he thought TLR had been bluffing.

He had some comments in mid to late September, more or less blaming St. Louis for his poor hitting in Toronto, saying his had was still spinning from Cardinals drama and he just wanted the season to end so he could get it off his mind. I think his dad made some more anti-Cardinals comments as well, but this is a guy who thinks he gives better batting advice than Mark McGwire, so people shouldn’t be concerned what he thinks.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing he said in that article

made me upset. he actually seemed pro-st louis.

“it was pretty tight-knit” and “it was sold out every night” are hardly invective laced.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that.

I didn’t take anything he said as being against the fans or players — like you said, he seems like he misses the fans and the rest of the team.

But from a player point of view, flatly stating that he’s not working on anything to improve his batting, and blaming his performance on manager drama that had ended over a month prior, if I was a Jays fan that would leave a bad taste in my mouth.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh.

okay, yes, i can see this perspective.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand why people condemn Rasmus for saying that he wasn't working on anything to improve.

There are many ways to break out of a slump. Often the most effective is to simply get out of your own way and go hit. Overthinking one’s swing can prolong a slump. Trying to remember all of the various suggestions from teammates and/or coaches and/or parents while in the box can be a bad idea. It sounds like Rasmus tried a lot of things to break out of it. Maybe just taking a step back was something else worth trying. I can’t condemn it.

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by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty much the same thing I thought.

He’s just gone thru what was possibly the worst season he could go thru and he was probably just wanting to go crawl in a hole and forget about baseball until after New Years.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

the issue here comes in when

the coaches say that they are working on stuff with him, and he says that he wasn’t.

Not working on something would have been acceptable if both parties agreed with it. But the way it was stated makes it sound like they are on two different pages.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way it was reportedly stated.

I understand what you’re saying. It seems that they are on different pages. I suspect that it was Rasmus probably not wanting to reveal to the media what he was working on while the coaching staff didn’t care about discussing it. I don’t think I would ever comment on what I was working on, either as a coach or player, to ensure that this type of thing doesn’t happen and because I don’t think anyone outside the organization needs to know.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i haven't been paying attention to anything

other than his statistics. what’d he say?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Still, I can accept the trade if they win it all.

by egc80 on Oct 13, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

pet peeve actually

*Affect = verb
*Effect = noun

Your usage = verb

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 13, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

oversimplification.

i wonder what is needed to effect a change in the usage of confusingly similar english words. my diffident affect should not prevent you from correcting people, but you should at least correct people correctly.

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by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

it's a rule of thumb that works 99 out of 100 times

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, people should only be so persnickety? lecture somebody about the use of affect/effect

and the “close enough” doctrine doesn’t really apply.

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by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough I guess.

But nobody’s going to call you out if you use effect as a noun and affect as a verb. That’s like how you should always place a comma if there’s any doubt because you won’t get points taken off for it (unless it’s a grammar course).

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 13, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

well aren't you just the most knowledgeable guy.

if you’re going to correct my grammar usage, please make sure you’re doing so correctly. the way in which i used “effect” is completely correct. sorry for the confusion it caused you.

i am also sorry for the level of snark in this post. nothing is more annoying than an incorrect grammar correction (watch me do this later, though).

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait hold on.

I still think you used it wrong, or at least if you used it right, I don’t think your sentence makes a lot of sense. Or I’m just reading badly.

LET’S ARGUE MORE EVERYONE!

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm fairly certain i did not use the word in the manner i intended.

i should have said “effect a change in the reasoning” or “affect the reasoning”.

what i wrote reads “cause the reasoning” which, while correct english, makes little sense.

stl4’s explanation was still overly simplistic and incorrect, though. and i was trying to be a little needlessly jerky in my initial response to him.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

phew

I thought I was crazy there for a minute. I had this whole twisted interpretation where the problematic word was “had,” and everything.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know how if you stare at something you wrote

for a while, everything about it looks wrong? that’s what’s happening to me right now.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I finished a memo today

that included a couple of really convoluted sentences until I figured out how to clean them up. So yes. Hate that.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the problem is that the verb effect (to bring about or cause) is so similar to affect (to influence)

that it can be confusing. However, I think il rosso’s use would indicate affect unless he changed the wording to effect a change in attitudes toward…

by a fink on Oct 13, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is correct.

see my response above.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, yep. you got it.

(as you can tell with my subjunctive fang baiting, I’m not a fan of grammar pedantry. I just jumped in since there was confusion, but you got it)

by a fink on Oct 13, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

right, like a post hoc change in the reasoning used to evaluate the trade

but then he said the reason they “had” and that would give us disagreement in tenses (or some technical word i don’t know). but it’s resolved.

good thing, too.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is actually what i meant to say.

that there wouldn’t be a post hoc change in the reasoning used to evaluate the trade.

I AM SO CONFUSED

why should i have said “have” instead of “had”?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm terribly sorry I started this completely meaningless and dumb sub-thread.

Although I did learn something.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 13, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK YOU THE CONTINENTAL

how’s that, haha?

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Watch it, you.

I saw the Imo’s hate downthread. Got my eye on you…

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 13, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i will never understand.

personal preferences are different i suppose.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i do that sometimes

Normally catch it when proof reading. But sometimes I post without proof reading

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

not true at all.

effect, verb: cause (something) to happen; bring about.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i always thought it was acceptable

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

si.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

what will make it acceptable

is if Rasmus continues to play poorly next year, while scrabble continues to useful. I’m not sure the Cardinals didn’t see this as a chance to trade Rasmus while he still has value.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better be on my best behavior

Just saw my job posted an ad on craigslist for an opening.

by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 13, 2011 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

no more VEB for you, young man

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, he's going to be fired, so he might as well start.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

"An immeasurable grit"

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or SBN St. Louis

and Mr. Fritz.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

nonsense; if we were after brains, why would we be PLAYING THE BREWERS?

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Puma believes in intangibles.

From the article:

"It’s an interesting phenomenon," Berkman said. "I do think there’s a psychological component to it. I can’t explain to you what it is. But we – at least, I – feel it. You can sense it."

Intangibles, not animals.

"We’re not rallying behind a squirrel or anything like that."

by Corey! on Oct 13, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are very excited about being named Corey

I would too, I guess!

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This riminds me,

I miss Danny!

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by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss Art =(

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's out.

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by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seeya Art!

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do too.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least he didn't say, "It is what it is."

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOH.....

LOY nominee here. no UID, but still a contender.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starting to get a little chilly, too.

I love cold baseball.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most of my favorite baseball memories are cold baseball memories.

When I was little, my dad and I would bring blankets and hot chocolate to the games.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but your hands will hurt like a mofo if you hit it or catch it wrong.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do I say this nicely...

I’m going to leave you all for the immediate future. I was here commenting for Game 1, but Games 2 and 3, I was either at work or in my car. I’m going to Busch tonight to avoid you unlucky bunch at all costs. Enjoy the game!

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- Andrew Lang

by EinFesteBusch on Oct 13, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Bryan Anderson on Bernie about how he isnt a homer
Im sure theres a blog world out there that has these discussions

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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

You want to see how well he lifts and separates?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

101sports.com has podcasts

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

....
if the Brewers want to win this series, they’re going to have to take it back to Milwaukee

no shit Bryan

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he's paid to tell us about the game happenings.

The insights are a bonus.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next he'll be telling me

the team that scores that most runs will win tonight

by dmiles on Oct 13, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it's something that requires experience

he spends the whole season being sanctimonious about the cards and then all of a sudden he has to call pujols homers with enthusiasm. game 1 was pretty bad. he’s getting better

by prophetjohn on Oct 13, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He knows damn well "there's a blog world out there"

and what the blogs are

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listening to Orlando Hudson on MLBN

Sounds like all of his sentences should end with Zibity bee bop!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 3:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

...datsracist.gif?

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's called the half-worm

all the kids are doing it nowadays

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by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

his missed catch in CF ended basically the same way, oddly enough.

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by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Needs moar Punto excitement.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he needs a Slip 'n Slide

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

do we have the other angle

the one in slo-mo that shows just how much of a fail it really was?

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 13, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, if we can shut down their 3-4-5...

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read 3-4-5 as Fielder, Weeks, Hairston

’cause thats their positions. I was all like, “If we can shut down Hairston?”

Then I realized you mean Braun, Fielder, Weeks.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

same here

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by scoot on Oct 13, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great, Mark Kotsay is going to hit another homer against us.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

KOTSAY?


HE SUCKKKKKKKSSSSSSS

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm awaiting the sequel featuring Corey Hart.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes got nothing on ezequiel astacio

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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank gob for subject lines

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

no shit.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a good lineup.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i swear to GOBs, you people

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry, I don't understand what GOBs are

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think Zeuss

vengeful, supersticious, and very powerful.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 13, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dr. Zeuss?

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

bastards.

They’re nothing but bastards.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

With bastard filling.

Don’t forget the bastard filling

Stupid UCL's.

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 13, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hart said on Monday he was sick

And word is he’s still not feeling well. That and the terrible numbers against Lohse were apparently enough to get him benched.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 13, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll just blame Imo's.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freese clean-up?

Wha?

Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woh

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

"playing the hot hand" there Tony?

well… .

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a logical fallacy

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is?

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playing the hot hand, or even a hot hand existing, I suppose

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay, now why it is a logical fallacy?

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Logical fallacy is probably the wrong phrase

But it does not exist

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

so do slumps not exist either?

are all streaks, whether bad or good, just statistical abnormalities?

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by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct

And not abnormalities, really, just happenstances? If you think about it, it’s just the exact opposite of the gambler’s fallacy

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

bayesball

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Haha, I like that

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

It’s a “can we predict this thing” not a can we identify this thing.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeahhhhh

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean

I’m not saying that a hot streak is a fluctuation in true talent but I am saying that hot and cold streaks can be identified in hindsight. Or do you not consider anything to be a hot streak?

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

I’m sure there are some times when a guy is seeing the ball really well or whatever, but you can’t differentiate between that and just normal happenstance

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

I guess that’s why I feel they aren’t predictable but I still consider a collection of at bats that have higher than seasonal value to be a hot streak. I just don’t necessarily think it’s because the player did anything different. Still a hot streak to me though.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

sometimes, but also i think there are cases

where they DO change something in their swing or make a small adjustment in their stance or whatever it may be.

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then that would result in a true-talent change

Not just a temporary hot streak, right?

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

not if those changes are not permanent or something else changes

as time goes on. they may fix one thing, but fall into another bad habit soon after and on and on it goes. just saying, these guys aren’t robots. they don’t replicate the same mechanics and swing over and over. and when you are tying to hit a baseball coming in at 90+ MPH or moving all over the place, even tiny adjustments can make a huge difference

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure, but i'm not even sure the players really know when their success at the plate

is owed to a change in approach or swing or what have you, and what’s dumb luck.

if you have actually scouting information to deal with and you apply it in a reasonable way (e.g., “pitcher A noticeably changed his arm slot on this date; here are his results since then”) i don’t hate the streak narratives. but generally the scouting justifications are poorly thought out and poorly supported, and the streak argument is mostly just about the numerical streak.

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by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

not saying they are even always aware of it, just that those types of things happen and when everything happens to “click” per say is when they go jay bruce 12 homer month on you.

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe. maybe bruce was doing something different.

maybe he was playing a lot of home games and facing some terrible pitchers.

i don’t know. if i were a reds fan, maybe i’d scrutinize his batting stance to see what changed, if anything.

not knowing that there was anything going on, i don’t assume that jay bruce is primarily responsible for hitting a lot more homers in one particular month than another.

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by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

agree its not ALWAYS the case, just that stuff like that can happen. bruce is just a random example, but there are guys who hit about two thrids of their season total of home runs in a few torrid 20 day long spans, while hitting the other third in the other 140 days. i guess its possible that its completely random, but when a guy does that repeatedly i think you have to at least think its something more than randomness.

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The player probably did something different

At least a percentage of the time.

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 14, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

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by vivaelpujols on Oct 14, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

the 'sabr nerd stat geeks'

would have you believe so.

I know that that Freese or Albert going 6 for 8 doesn’t mean either will hit anything tonight, but hitting is as much art as science and I do believe that players get into funks and into periods where the ball is as big as a beach ball, statistics be damned!

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 13, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

But can you differentiate between when they are "hot" and when it's just a statistical happenstance?

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

not statistically

and I agree that “playing the hot hand” is not a good line-up strategy if that is all you are basing it on. Just like playing someone who’s lifetime 4 for 10 vs. today’s opposing pitcher instead of another who’s 2 for 9 is a poor choice if that’s all you are using. I do think players get into slumps, those are all too easy to see sometimes. It is impossible to predict when someone will go into or come out of a slump. So, in the regular season, you should play the best players, regardless of recent production or lack thereof. In a playoff scenario, I can see more reason to ‘go with the hot hand’ even though the recent “hotness” is no predictor of future success. All other things being equal, though, I have no problem with that being the deciding factor in choosing who starts.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 13, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't think you can identify what causes the streaks

because if we could, they would never exist. Whatever problems that cause slumps would be immediately eliminated.

However, I do believe streaks exist. Se the career of Edmonds, James.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 13, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed with both points

but, as I replied to rui above, in the playoffs, all other things being equal, I have no problem with using the ‘hot hand’, fallacy or not, to choose between two nearly equal players.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 13, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perception of who has the 'hot hand'

can affect how the opposing manager approaches certain hitters and at-bats. Maybe Roenicke decides to pitch to Albert because he thinks Freese is on a hot streak? (He seems like the type of manager that might)

by matt man on Oct 13, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think any/all managers do this

some do it more than others, but it’s so ingrained into baseball it’s universal. Besides, with such a happenstance game anyway, what else are you going to base decisions on besides recent and/or historical performances?

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 13, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the one thing that I absolutely do NOT buy

that there is no such thing as a hot streak.

Exhibit A- Nelson Cruz

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't think that maybe Cruz is a good player who happened to have a good couple of games in a row?

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is your definition of a hot streak? isn't that exactly what having a few good games in a row is?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess.

Yeah, I admit that hot streaks do exist. But they are meaningless for anything.

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i understand there is no statistical definition

of what encompasses a “hot streak.” but i mean isn’t that arguing semantics to some degree? call it whatever you want, players get “locked in” or whatever you want to call it.

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you flip a coin and you get heads 4 times in a row

is that a hot streak for heads?

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by rocKStark5 on Oct 13, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even I will say humans are a lot different than coins

Mechanics get thrown off/locked in, nagging injuries, mindset etc. The problem is that by the time you can really tell if someone is hot or cold, they’ve already changed.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 13, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

well my point is the wall numbers fall in general

is probably the biggest reason behind streaks and not some sensational narrative.

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by rocKStark5 on Oct 13, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, I disagree

But I’m done with this discussion

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that they don't exist, it's that they're not predictive.

They begin and they end, but nobody can tell you before either of those points happen that they are going to.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

i agree to some extent on that.

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you that players go through periods where they are physically and mentally at their peak,

and this peak is different than their average abilities throughout the year. But I think it’s impossible to quantify and also impossible to differentiate from a similar period where they get unusually lucky, probably even for the hitter themselves.

by a fink on Oct 13, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

cruz is notriously one of the streakiest guys in baseball

  its not like these guys are robots though, they go through periods where their hitting mechanics get messed up, they don’t see the ball, they alter something in their swing, whatever it may be. when it all happens to click at the same time is when you see them go on a tear.

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

nobody is denying that.

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, but since there's not a way - generally speaking - to tell the difference, it doesn't make sense

to guess about whether it’s noise or signal.

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by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about the cold hand?
Why is Hart out, you ask? Might have to do with 3-for-12 NLCS and 2-for-17 lifetime vs. Lohse. #Brewers

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by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like playing with the cold hand instead of the hot hand

it adds another dimension to the whole thing….

I mean, You don’t expect Freese to continue his tear or Hart to continue sucking against Lohse do you?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

With TBS and FOX now only showing playoff stats, I’m taken back to my younger days when, as a kid, I expected a player on a scalding hot streak to keep hitting. Now I get more excited when Holliday, Berkman, or Molina are up because I know the cold streak won’t continue and they are “due,” to use the Little League coach’s term.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gambler's fallacy?

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should start drinking at your desk

and when someone asks what you’re doing just be like “what? It’s my first day.”

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was like that when I got here

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

3/12 is .250.

i mean, that’s not great but it’s not horrible by any means. one more hit and he’s hitting .333.

/sample size

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by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it's .250, damnit.

and that’s awful……

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

just one extra flare, a gorp, a groundball with eyes, a dying quail, just one more dying quail a week and you're in the starting lineup

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

do we have to have this discussion every day?

obviously hot streaks exist – they just aren’t an indication of future said hot streakiness.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Muahahahahaha

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

your face is a logical fallacy.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't speak to a paid employee that way

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by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

you said fallace.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 13, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

furcal-craig-pujols-freese-holliday

I would not want to be the pitcher trying to get through that sequence

/Pre-emptive anti-jinx

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a fan of taking Jay out of the 2 spot.

If the problem with Holliday was that he wasn’t hitting for power, drop him in the 2 spot, he’s still 3/7 with a walk.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless I'm looking at it the wrong way.

And this is TLR game-planning against the Brewers IBBing Pujols every other at-bat.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

holliday just looks bad though

the book right now is just throw him something low and he will swing wildly at it and strike out.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

or throw something high and he will swing wildly at it and strike out.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

or throw him something inside

and he will swing at it and either miss or foul it off.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 13, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roll it to him.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

YEAH

It’s very ice to meet you

by LandSickness on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

@CardsInsider:
Lineup (10/13) Game 4 – NLCS: Furcal 6; Craig 9; Pujols 3; Freese 5; Holliday 7; Molina 2; Theriot 4; Jay 8; Lohse 1.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a good lineup.

With a pitch-to-contact starter like Lohse on the mound, I wish we had Punto at second base. But that’s just a quibble. Theriot is a good hitter against lefties and should probably only ever play against lefties.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 13, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummmm. 'not nearly as bad at 2B'

does not = Punto defensively. And Lohse does not need to have outs given away.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think theriot's hitting over punto's is greater than punto's fielding over theriot's?

at first i did, and maybe it would matter in a different lineup, but with all the mashing, do we really need that kind of production out of our 7th or 8th place hitter to win the game? seems that better fielding would be more important. i base this on nothing.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You make a good point. It would be even better point if were talking about Punto batting lefthanded.

I am mollified by the fact that Punto will be playing second after the 7th inning. Maybe it’s all academic.

by RedAllOver on Oct 13, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am pretty surprised tony put freese in the cleanup spot

pleasantly surprised that is. thought he would stick to the “he’s comfortable in the 7 hole”

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am in love with this lineup.

and very, very surprised.

this of course means it will go horribly.

by RedbirdAvenger on Oct 13, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually

I bet the reason Freese is hitting cleanup is cause Tony plans to use Berkman as a PH late, and it won’t have to be a double switch.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Berkman's gonna play third?

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

double switch

Descalso comes in for pitcher.

by sdrone on Oct 13, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am still waiting for the inning(s) where we have 2 pitchers.

hear me out: say Lohse is out of the game, and the 7th is Kotsay, Braun, Fielder.

Step 1. Rzep retires Kotsay
Step 2. Rzep to RF
Step 3. Craig to 2B
Step 4. Theriot out, Salas to P
Step 5. Retire Braun
Step 6. Rzep back to P to face Fielder
Step 7. Craig back to RF
Step 8. Punto to 2B for Salas (or insert Berkman)
Step 9. ???
Step 10. Profit!!!

by all4tookie on Oct 13, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

its even more fun if you think about the possibilities of

albert playing 3rd, craig/yadi playing first, motte going back home to his catcher roots, etc.

by all4tookie on Oct 13, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

sometimes I can't figure out why Tony hasn't actually ever done this

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know the cubs have done this before under piniella

and i thought for sure someone did it pretty recently but i cant remember who

by all4tookie on Oct 13, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because Whitey

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I would almost piss my pants if he this.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

did*

that bad f’ing headache yesterday has really messed me up

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whitey Herzog actually did this.

About 4 times in the late 1980s when Todd Worrell was the closer. Herzog sent Worrell to RF while LOOGYs Ken Dayley or Rick Horton pitched. I seem to remember Worrell catching a game-ending fly ball once.

Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.

by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Oct 13, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know. I saw it happen.

and he did it more than 4 times. I was meaning that if TLR did it, i would piss my pants.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he meant Whitey pissed his pants

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think Whitey ever got that drunk?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle Lohse, Outfielder!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, sorry, it made sense in my head

one too many edits to that post. Point is, Freese is frequently pulled by Tony late in games, so it’s an obvious place for Berkman to go.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday

Is going to rebounding and have a monster game. Go crads!

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 3:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

rebound*

Stupid phone.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

still the wrong game

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t follow.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 4:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

you rebound in basketball!

boredom breeds bad jokes, sorry

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That joke was worse than a poorly timed interception.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 4:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

football

boooooooooo

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That joke was more dynamic than a corner kick.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Better get to the free throw line, that joke was foul.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 4:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

These puns have left the fairway

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, go ahead and sweep the rock down the curling sheet even farther

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wicked googly!

you totally went a different direction that I expecting with that leg break.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 13, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm leaving work

Only to go to the apartment to get ready and off to the stadium

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 13, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

are you still undefeated at games?

If so, you make damn sure you get your ass to that game

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first nods game broke the streak

But my gf and I are 7-1 for the yr

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 13, 2011 5:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The first nlcs game broke the streak

But my gf and I are 7-1 for the yr

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 13, 2011 5:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The first nlds game broke the streak

But my gf and I are 7-1 for the yr

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 13, 2011 5:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

WHICH IS IT MAN??!!?!?!??!?!?

MAKE UP YOUR MIND!

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love how something that is supposed to prevent errors frequently causes them

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd look into a better autocorrecting phone.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

three posts

three different spellings of NL_S

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

I thought I remember one time a couple years ago reading an onion-esque article or something talking about Fielder being so fat that he got hit by an outside pitch. I can’t find it anywhere, and now I think either a.) I’m making it up, or b.) it was a comment that I read on VEB while drunk and thought it the most hilarious thing ever.

by WyoCardsFan on Oct 13, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I do remember the one

where Fielder and Sabbathia saw each other as a giant hot dog and a giant hamburger

by dmiles on Oct 13, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

they had an article about LaRussa apologizing for winning the World Series in 06

but i cant find it in the archives

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

here

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

dont know why i couldnt find it

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

try this next time.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, I have a client coming in in a few minutes to "ask a question."

I asked the receptionist what the questions is about, and I was told that the client said,

“There a problem in the thing where people look at your stuff and tell you something about it.”

I’m trying to imagine what the worst case scenario is, but I don’t think I have enough info to even do that.

Makin' toast!

DING

Butterin' toast!

by dronemc on Oct 13, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

how does your receptionist know about your chatroulette usage?

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the sake of your business

I hope the receptionist is hot. So that there’s some kinda return on that investment.

by sdrone on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

no kidding

the level of hype he got at the end of the year was pretty annoying. people talking about the yankees series- “well verlander will pitch two games, so all they have to do is win one of the other three and they win the series!”

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kotaay in over Hart!

I love it!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 4:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

planning your future via VEB:

a dubious endeavor.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Decided to watch tonight's game from home

Hope someone wants a standing room only ticket on stubhub!

by LandSickness on Oct 13, 2011 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone called it earlier

Craig 2nd, Freese cleanup, berk out

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 4:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Berkman comeback player of the year

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 4:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Sorry

I’ve been getting ready to go to the game so I missed reading and got excited about what I heard on tv

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 4:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You got meme'd by a visitor.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 13, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha HA

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha!

this guy. this guy right here.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

almost chitown'd

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your required sabermetrics reading for the day

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15295

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

he is no longer unpaid!

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he's married, right?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, so his money

just became her money.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's somewhere in this thread i think

but sbn is jumping me all over the place so i can’t find it for you.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually don't listen to any Podcasts

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

can someone summarize this for me?

i feel lost. i promise i will read it in-depthly, but sometimes it helps to know what they’re saying going in.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

There may be an inefficiency in the draft. He looked at the 5 youngest HS players and 5 oldest high school players in the draft

And the younger group outperformed the older group by like 115%

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

surely this does not indicate that a player will be better

simply because he is younger?

additionally, wouldn’t it be the better players who are drafted young anyway? it seems to me that you would have to be an outstanding player to be drafted at 17 such as griffey jr or a-rod. if you’re not really good at that age, no one’s going to draft you.

this is just me mulling this over in my head. i’m just trying to figure out the possible meanings for the data.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well these were all high school seniors who had just graduated

Mike Trout was only 17 when he was drafted, and he was picked 22nd. Jazayerli looked at everybody picked within the first 100 picks, so some 17year olds were picked 75th or whatever.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh.

i’m dumb.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The idea being that if these kids who are a young 17

are good enough to be hanging with (and/or outplaying) kids who almost a full calendar year older than them (but same grade level) they are actually farther along the baseball curve than realized. They’ve reached an equivalent level of talent as their older counterparts in a shorter period of time.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

mostly lazy.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edmonds at Game 4

Jim Edmonds will throw out the ceremonial first pitch before Game 4 of the National League Championship Series on Thursday night at Busch Stadium.

by courtsteve on Oct 13, 2011 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

sigh

jimmy ballgame. I’d love to see him play one more game. I love his swing

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 13, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

euphemism?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a consolation to the TV people for the big market East Coast teams not making it...

This World Series is going to have a shit ton of offense, probably.

Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Oct 13, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh, Buck had to interrupt his soliloquy on a bag of chips

to make a late call on Avila’s home run.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

slam a lamma ding dong

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The P-D sports page is great today

Half page picture of Kotsay eating dirt

by leefyg on Oct 13, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

wish they would do better with their website

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

And beat writers

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter

by mysterui on Oct 13, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

this too

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, I'm sure an infant can and a 5 year old can't. What's the cut-off?

Found it! WOO!

4. Do I have to purchase a ticket for an infant?

Children, 3 and under, do not need a ticket as long as they sit on your lap.

by a fink on Oct 13, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

just lie and say your five year old is three.

this has been a segment of il rosso’s #unethical advice; tune in next time to hear il rosso’s take on some other subject

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

they'll insist on seeing her driver's license

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh.

i COMPLETELY misread your post, haha.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am going to go deface a random wikipedia article.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

but that won't be random.

He has to click “random” on the wikipedia page or he’ll be lying, which makes him unethical
AND OH NO WAIT

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i vandalized an article by changing a link to the article for penis

but it’s already been reverted and my ip was issued a warning.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

and it was a random article.

i’m living on the edge.
also, this is only the second time i’ve ever edited a wikipedia page.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

What was your first?

I’ve edited the Tootsie Roll and the Jose Molina page (Molina’s had been vandalized)

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Oct 13, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the castle neuschwanstein

i changed the name of the castle to bob and added a section explaining that the bavarian government had changed the name of the castle. it lasted several months. granted, this was in 2007.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

and illiterate.

No way to go through life, rosso.

by a fink on Oct 13, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Standing in line to get in

On the way to the metrolink I saw 2 squirrels. One right outside my apartment. I take it as a good sign.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 13, 2011 5:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

good thing our rally totem is an animal that's really common

it would suck if we had a Rally Dodo meme going.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

clearly we have an edge over the Brewers

because they picked an imaginary animal

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 13, 2011 6:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

want to read something funny

JeffPassan Jeff Passan
Zack Greinke says the strike zone in the postseason has been “as good as I’ve ever seen.”

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Kurkjian is in Busch Stadium!

STAY CALM

well, he’s been there the whole time.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Kurkjian still has NO idea how our bullpen is doing this.

How does it work

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

dammit, fespn had an awesome all-time Pujols stat

cannot type fast enough to catch it. i think it was BA and slugging

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, one of six

Seeing Dykstra’s name in a list like that (Brett, Ruth) always takes me aback.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

WE'RE IN THE BIG TIME NOW!!!!!!

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 13, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comerica Park is ridiculous

420 to center just saved a beltre 3 run homer

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

dennis ritchie died

suspect it will be less newsworthy than jobs’ death

by prophetjohn on Oct 13, 2011 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

considering he died many hours ago

and no one here has mentioned it, i would agree with you.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was october 8th, but only recently reported

just find it strange that it’s been essentially ignored, whereas jobs passing was treated similar to the loss of a president or a great cultural leader a la MLK.

arguably, nothing jobs did would have been possible if not for ritchie

by prophetjohn on Oct 13, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, are you serious?

i saw it on reddit today and assumed it had happened today.
jobs stood on the shoulders of giants, and one of those giants was ritchie.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

everything mentioning it that i've seen was dated the 12th

so it may not have been reported until yesterday. but i’ve seen a couple places say he died on the 8th

by prophetjohn on Oct 13, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, apparently he did.

strange.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 13, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Jobs die, or was he just exported to China?

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Oct 13, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably

considering most don’t know who he is. (Admittedly, I didn’t know until I looked him up… but now it’s a damn shame)

by Phizzle on Oct 13, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats on the Cardinals late run!

Of course, I’m rooting heartily against you, and I hope the entire squad gets gonorrhea, but credit where credit is due.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Oct 13, 2011 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, didn't brandon phillips say something similar?

thanks for wishing sexually transmitted diseases on our team! stay classy, reds’ fans!

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, BP tweeted something similar.

Would your sentiments be different, were we wearing each others’ shoes?

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Oct 13, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, they would be.

i would want the reds to lose.

however, i would not wish physical harm on them. perhaps you were being hyperbolic, which is a type of metaphor.

i don’t really see how much good can come of this conversation though.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was really just popping in for the one line of congrats.

Let’s not make it more than it is. :)

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Oct 13, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay.

in that case. thanks for the congratulations.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Popping in for a quick one, not making more of it than it is.

and an STD argument.

“lol context.”

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

(and thanks)

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

easy now.

=)

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Why would I have anything against the Reds as opposed to the Brewers? I wish nothing but ill luck to Johnny Cueto forever because I mean, come on. So maybe I would hope for him to get a PED suspension or like, just get brutally shelled every time out. Bu the Reds are just a team in the division to me.

I think you guys might overestimate the rivalry, a little. It was one year.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Verlander doing the tragic hero thing

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, it's really an admirable performance

since he doesn’t have his best stuff and Leyland laid the whole game on his shoulders before the game.

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

the tigers better score some runs (plural)

verlander is at 113 pitches through 6 and their pen consists of coke and brad penny

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have a Coke and a Smile!

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

well thats a start

2 outs becomes 1 run and man on 2nd

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your fingers to GOBs' ears for sure

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Migs manages to hit the bag

Tigers lead

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

tigers take teh lead 3-2.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Cabrera chatting it up

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

And dwarfing Andrus.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

V-Mar!

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

mike napoli heaves a sigh of relief that there was no play on cabrera this time.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

waaaaaaaaaay back and gone.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

do they have tiger roars over there?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

they should

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

tigers hitting for the team natural cycle in the inning

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 13, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

MVP chant

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

this past week or so

late at night there is this short period of a few hours, and a few more at midday, when there is no baseball coverage on tv ( i don’t have mlbn)

and I just don’t get it. it’s endless handegg with splashes of no-nba-oh-noes

there should be baseball coming out of everyone’s ears

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah it's weird

Starting on the final day of the regular season, baseball has been pretty consistently awesome. There were three freaking game 5’s, for pete’s sake.

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, there is Tito's personal life that the talkers keep reminding us shouldn't be talked about

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can deposit straight to my bank account, then

wait, no. just forward me your account number and pin code.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

when the people outside my window leave.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn it, clank.

Stop harassing Y2S.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 13, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

but clank's right over there.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, Young turned on that fast.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Oct 13, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

did he quit smoking?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the dugout anyway.

Remember how he used to try to hide the cig in his cupped hand?

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, hehe

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

so the bottom of the 6th began like so

1B
2B
3B
HR

Jayson Stark will be ALL OVER THIS

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Kurkjian's voice is breaking!

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ken Rosenthal's bowtie will be positively quivering

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i heard

he’s a boss

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

and cj wilson just lost ~$2m there in free agenc y.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

what's this mocking chant?

oh, it’s done

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would just like to make an observation:

bcb jr has had something around fifteen front-page posts since the game last night. i appreciate danup’s restraint.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

really? geez.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

they've not discovered the jump-tag, either.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

in case someone doubts the GOB

jump down to the paragraph about Gallardo after the first bulleted list

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap they have a wind speed prediction in comments.

I mean, we did too, but they have pictures.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

ron washington should, uh, think about maybe pulling wilson.

mebbe.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

what is cj wilson i don’t even

by Pegasus on Oct 13, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

but I thought you say

cj wilson
what is this i don’t even

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

it loses the classic cadence

think of the scansion
think of the punchline
next thing you’ll tell me headlights need eyebrows

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

resident veb hipster

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

DO NOT DEVIATE

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if he goes past 150, i'd think

Tigers need to score more to pull him

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've been spelling WOOOOO incorrectly?!?!?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Oct 13, 2011 7:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Tigers want to go to Texas.

Uehara throwing meatballs

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

This is some funny shit.

My friend told me – with a straight face and being completely serious – that he heard from his friend’s cousin’s husband’s best friend who was David Freese that Colby Rasmus is the biggest pothead.

Take that for what it’s worth.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 13, 2011 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

plausible but unconfirmed

there were similar rumors about Boog

somewhere on VEB

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Getting lost going to Busch Stadium

hemp necklace, etc.

And that one Boog ’n Bombs episode where they go on a 12 minute trip through the hotel to the snack machines, admiring the wallpaper and art and stuff?

None of the above mean anything of course, just what came to my mind right away.

by leefyg on Oct 13, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

no that was normal antics

besides, with those extreme close ups, one might be able to tell

it was a different VEB insider report. possibly involving Wellemeyer. I can’t recall it entirely, so someone should dig it out.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would never be able to say i heard something

from my friend’s cousin’s husband’s best friend with a straight face.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Michael Phelps is on line 2

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

about 75% of the NBA would like a word with you

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

or possibly your friend has at one point seen a photograph of colby rasmus or observed him on tv.

is this really surprising to anyone?

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

i don't know if it's true

But it’s not surprising if it is. Because you know, millions of people smoke pot. I think the population of young, rich people who smoke pot may be a bit higher than older, non-rich people.

Millions of athletes drink. At least pot isn’t something that’s going make you out of shape like drinking a lot of beer can do.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 13, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

And hopefully makes them want to sit around and do nothing

Instead of drunk driving til they get arrested or injured or killed.

:(

by leefyg on Oct 13, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

this should surprise NOBODY.

In grammar, the subjunctive mood (abbreviated sjv or sbjv) is a verb mood typically used in subordinate clauses to express various states of irreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 13, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

No...

My friend’s friend’s cousin’s husband’s best friend knows him. He doesn’t directly know him.

So now, you guys can tell people that your internet friend’s friend’s friend’s cousin’s husband’s best friend (David Freese) says Colby smokes a lot of pot.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 13, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

already tweeted

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's still not clear if you're just stating the relation

or if the rumor passed through all these people. so you either heard it thrid hand or fifth hand

by prophetjohn on Oct 13, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

A baseball player who smokes pot?

NOW I’VE HEARD EVERYTHING!

"He probably misses his old glasses."

by Alxfritz on Oct 13, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

damn, i blocked my brewers fan friend's status updates from my newsfeed, but when she comments on her own status, i still have to see it

probably should just unfriend her for awhile. i had to take her off the feed when she changed her profile pic to say “beastie boys” with pictures of braun, fielder, morgan, and weeks doing beast mode.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

i also have a single brewers fan on my fb

and she has been pretty quiet since game 1

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

she loves t-plush and that is why i should block her

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Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 13, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

for sure

mine is actually Mitch Stetter’s sister, so I suppose shes allowed to be overly douchey in her posts

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeez. Those guys at BCB really, really hate the cardinals.

Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."

by cj2k on Oct 13, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

the brewers one?

i read through their game thread. i didn’t think they hated the cardinals that much. it’s more like they are super frustrated by their manager and his zany decisions, which sounds entirely familiar.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read the latest post, and it came off like they really hate the cardinals

Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."

by cj2k on Oct 13, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read the latest post, and it came off like they really hate the cardinals

Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."

by cj2k on Oct 13, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry for repeating

Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."

by cj2k on Oct 13, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, we discussed that.

it’s not taking.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm ok w/ BCBJV

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. he's the scariest thing in the post season.

really, if the rangers are going to win this series I wish they would do it tonight. Give him a chance for his bat to cool down.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 13, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

baseball coverage and stuff!

where be the thread

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

montages make us look so badass.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

96th postseason game.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Motte comparisons ahoy.

there’s yukon cornelius….

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

one sportstalker called him Dan Fouts

I thought maybe Grizzly Adams

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

there was a whole bunch. i missed some

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

omfg TBS might have copped to the bullpen miracle!

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

damn, Sager showed Kotsay the P-D giant picture.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

SAGER LEVEL ORANGE

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

From Joe Buck:

“Phil Coke is dealing”. I can’t be the only one who laughed at that…

by Phizzle on Oct 13, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

more like he's serving now

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is painful

if cruz bats this inning he’s going to homer again

by Wombat x on Oct 13, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

he didn't Blow it.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 13, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tigers should take that base and put it in their museum

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

so I have tickets tomorrow

I also took off the entire day off. Is the pregame rally worth attending? Is there somewhere else I should go?

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

the worst "pizza" man could conceivably create.

save yourself the pain.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

false.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought you actually didn't know what it was.

never mind, carry on. as for me, i’m a member of the pizzeoisie.

it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be

by il rosso on Oct 13, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 13, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 of 3 analysts picked the brewers bc Wolf is "due" for a win.

Reporter: "Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?"
Shaquille O’Neill: "I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to."

by cj2k on Oct 13, 2011 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

That's their reasoning?

Hell, those experts know squat

2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
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by Paulspike on Oct 13, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some of these dudes will pick against the Cardinals till the day they die

"What I said is what I said. At the time, the moment was heated. Maybe I shouldn't have said it. But it is what it is." -- Nyjer Morgan

by vico on Oct 13, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is not unnatural

wolves are terrifying

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Oct 13, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially in cornfields.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clydesdales on the field

do they show it? no.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2011 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

tbs sucks.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Oct 13, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe water is indeed wet

2011 fWAR Final Results: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 2.6
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by Paulspike on Oct 13, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would love that.

Then again, we’d probably never know what was going on.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 13, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

but we would be thoroughly entertained

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 13, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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