St. Louis Cardinals @ Milwaukee Brewers NLCS Game 2: The Small Sample That Is The Postseason
by bgh on Oct 10, 2011 4:01 PM EDT
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One of the things about playoff baseball that has bothered me from childhood has been the fact that the television networks broadcasting the games quickly grab ahold of players' postseason statistics and force them upon the viewing audience. For me it started with Mark Lemke back in 1991 when he turned in a postseason performance completely and utterly out of character. A prototypical middle infielder of his era, Lemke would dig in during those playoffs and on the screen would be his obscene batting average. I think it was over .400 for the entirety of the postseason but who can be sure these twenty years later? Even as a child it was astounding to me that this low-.200s hitter was hitting like Ted Williams. This was before sample sizes and all of that but even then I didn't understand why those covering the game were so quick to cast aside regular season stat lines.
TBS is carrying on this time-honored tradition this postseason. Very quickly the players' postseason stat lines took prominence on the display as the batters they belong to dig into the box to take their hacks. At least TBS has the decency to include a tiny footnote with their regular season stats on it so the viewers at home can get an idea of what we should probably expect from these hitters and pitchers.
Providing the regular season baseline does run contrary to those narratives that so often take hold in the chill of autumn. There is no denying that for that short six-game stretch in 1991 Mark Lemke did hit something like Ted Williams, at least in terms of average. Similarly, for a two starts in the 2006 NLCS Jeff Suppan resembled Bob Gibson if Bob Gibson didn't strike anybody out. This dynamic is at once the beauty and the sorrow of the postseason. The stats start over by rule and allow journeymen to ride a hot streak into the game's October lore.
The Cardinals are now six games into their October quest. This seems as good a time as any arbitrarily chosen time to take a gander at some of our hitters' 2011 postseason numbers and see who is likely to have their numbers even out--for better or worse--in the three to six games that remain in this Suds Series sequel.
Ryan Theriot: .429/.429/.571/1.000 If you believe Theriot is capable of maintaining this pace, which was actually slowed by yesterday's 0 for 4 performance, I suspect you belong to the Cult of Lemke. A career .282/.344/.353/.697 hitter, Theriot continued a career decline as his production slid downward to .271/.321/.342/.662 this 2011 season. It would seem that there are more outs made than hits in his near future.
David Freese: .286/.316/.667/.985 Many have wondered where Freese's power went to after he slugged at a higher level during his stint in the minors than he has in St. Louis. That power seems to have been found, manifesting itself in these playoffs. Freese has more than doubled his career .429 SLG mark as a big leaguer in the first six games. It seems a fair bet that his SLG numbers will fall. Hopefully they wind up closer to his .531 career minor-league SLG level than his major-league SLG level.
Matt Holliday: .308/.357/.308/.665 Benched due to injury in the early games of the NLDS, Holliday has an even smaller sample of PAs to his credit than others on this list. Nonetheless, his power showing has been the opposite of Freese's as it is far below his career mark of .541. It's difficult to know how his hand injury is affecting his power. So far his contact skills have been right on par with his career .315 BA as he has sprayed liners and sharp grounders around. Some longer liners and deeper flies would be nice to see in the days ahead.
Lance Berkman: .227/.320/.409/.729 A postseason that started with a bang in the form of his three-run dinger off of Roy Halladay in the first inning of NLDS Game 1 has been rather grounded since. A career .296/.409/.545/.945 hitter, Berkman's 2011 line is nearly identical. Even as his average slumps, his keen hitting eye keeps him from becoming a black hole in the lineup. Berkman missed several hittable pitches in Game 1. One shouldn't expect that to continue. Berk should soon start Berking.
Yadier Molina: .182/.250/.182/.432 Undeniably colored by his heroics in the 2006 NLCS, I did not expect Yadi to post such a line this postseason, especially coming off his best season with the bat to date of .305/.349/.465/.814. This production valley is far deeper than one should expect from Yadi this postseason.
Albert Pujols: .333/.385/.458/.843 It speaks to Pujols's track record that a BA-heavy .843 OPS somehow feels disappointing. This is likely due to the fact that his four-hit game was a Cardinals loss. Pujols's walk-light line isn't that different from his regular season one, save the power. He swatted three doubles in Game 3 of the NLDS and those are all of his extra-base hits these playoffs. Pujols posted a career-low SLG of .541 this season. One wonders how long opposing pitchers can keep Pujols without a postseason home run.
If this column were written six games into the 1991 postseason, Mark Lemke would have been highlighted as a player very likely to regress to his true talent level of a .250 hitter. Lemke finished the 1991 playoffs with a .426 batting average. That's the thing about the postseason. A slump can swallow it. A hot streak can last through its final PA. Anything can happen. Even so, these are the Cardinals hitters that seem most likely to regress one way or the other in my mind.
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brewers...
hart
morgan
braun
fielder
weeks
hairston
betancourt
lucroy
marcum
looking for free tickets to game 4
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2011 4:08 PM EDT reply actions
one wonders if Craig should be playing for Holliday?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 10, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
holliday has not looked good, despite getting some hits.
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yeah he seems off his game.
Course he will reverse the trend tonight.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 10, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I was wondering this to.
if holliday’s slg has anything to do with his tendonitis, and I think that likely, then another day or two without gripping a bat maybe in order. plus, craig does better when he hasn’t been left on the bench too long. does anyone know if holli had that cortisone shot?
Do it for Torty.
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cardinals...
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Cards lineup for Game 2 at MIL: Furcal, Jay, Pujols, Holliday, Berkman, Molina, Freese, Punto, and Jackson. Game time 7:05 cent
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holliday back in the 4 spot. interesting.
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don't understand that, or the fact that Freese and Molina haven't been swapped
though I guess TLR probably feels like Freese is hot in the 7 hole…
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 10, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Berk has also stated that he has trouble picking up Marcums changeup
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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 10, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the best possible lineup, IMO.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I would bat Holliday second, Freese 6th and Jay 7th, but this is pretty close
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
We've long wanted Holliday batting second.
Unfortunately I don’t think that will ever happen.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
nice lineup
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Love it!
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 10, 2011 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I really hope they beat the bastard brewers tonight.
I have to admit, I was really hoping to see a four game sweep of the asshats, just to shut them up. Alas, it was not to be. Get a win tonight and steal home field advantage, that’s all I ask el Birdos.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
its funny how homefield advantage doesn't really seem like that much of an advantage, because of the order in which they play the games.
if the road team takes 1 of the first 2, they have the potential to sweep at home and win the thing. although i am certainly not advocating this, it seems like a 2-2-1-1-1 format would actually give a real “home field” advantage.
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which is how it is in the NBA
up until the Finals, that is (when it switches to 2-3-2)
That would allow for more happy flights
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by peppermartin on Oct 10, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of homefield advantages...
I’m sure it’s not lost on most that whoever wins the NLCS gets it in the WS. Thanks to All-Star Game MVP Prince Fielder. How great would that be for the Cards to get a boost from our friends in Milwaukee?
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by peppermartin on Oct 10, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
can we just bat around in the first inning
and run the score up on these F*ckers!
Sorry for swearing.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
i don't know what word fasteriskckers is,
but it’s not easy to pronounce.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
thought i would spare your eyes
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Oct 10, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not dead
now that it’s out of the way, I will now disappear for 2-3 days again…
GO CRADNALS
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by CodyG on Oct 10, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Surprised and disappointed they aren't playing Casey McGehee
after he 3 homer game against EJax… I guess they have caught on to his stench.
Theriot Postseason Splits
From MLB.com
vs. LHP (5-6) .833/.833/1.167
vs. RHP (1-8) .125/.125/.125
Platoon anyone?
Single-digit PAs won't tell you anything about anything
But is true that he’s a better hitter over his career versus lefties.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Some here thought the trade for Theriot was a trade for a platoon partner at 2B for Schumaker.
Those folks liked the trade. But his postseason platoon splits are much less meaningful than his career platoon splits.
Theriot vs. LHP: .301/.373/.401/.775
Theriot vs. LHP: .276/.334/.337/.671
That 104-gap in OPS over Theriot’s career is why he should probably only ever play against a lefty.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that's a pretty darn good OBP vs. LHP
damnit tony
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which one is his split agains RHP?
you accidentally typed LHP twice.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
The bottom.
My mistake.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
never mind.
actually reading your comment makes it clear. sorry.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Beltre is en fuego this postseason
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 10, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions
waiting for Berk to really starting tearing up pitching
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 10, 2011 4:48 PM EDT reply actions
I'm a little concerned about Berk - seems like he's been hacking lately, especially on first pitches.
Anyone hear of any physical issues with Berk?
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by peppermartin on Oct 10, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
just a strain from counting his money
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Oct 10, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think he is overexcited
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 10, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
A call that I had to JPEG
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 10, 2011 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Wow.
BrooksBaseball.net has their plots updated this quickly?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That's really cool.
I didn’t know any site did that.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Not that I know computer programming
But I’m pretty sure it’s a pretty simple script—-I’m not sure why they all don’t considering the PITCHf/x data is all loaded into an XML updated on every pitch.
Not afraid to nitpick
it doesn't look quite as bad on Gameday
still an obvious missed call, though.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Happy Flight
This is by my own research, but it could be wrong…
but, the Cardinals are 14-0 on get away games dating back to the Florida series at the beginning of August, including the playoffs.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Oct 10, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
HAPPY FLIGHT!
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Oct 10, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
If memory serves me right we haven't lost a get away game since the Brewers beat us back in August
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 10, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be watching from work tonight
so I’m clearly just one bad inning away from getting fired.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
santiago fail
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts -- for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang
by EinFesteBusch on Oct 10, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
tigers love to bat their worst hitters 1-2-3
no one noticed all year because they won but now people are catching on
lulz
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Unique insight. Why even play the game? RT @BJRains: Shaun Marcum has given up at least five earned runs in four of his past five starts.
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they also had little incentive of doing well
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 10, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Marcum pitches to the loss column?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Lots of this going around.
Jayson Stark, for example, has tweeted the following:
Past performance is no guarantee of future results. But Berkman, Pujols, Fucal, Freese & Molina are a combined 7 for 56 (.125) vs Marcum
On the other hand, Hairston, Weeks, Hart & Tony Plush are a combined 18 for 32 lifetime (.563) vs Edwin Jackson.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
tony plush?
Who is that guy?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174
does he note that this will be the biggest start of Marcums career
and only his 2nd career postseason start?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 10, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think that matters too much.
Just like I don’t think players’ individual lines over a handful of plate appearances against a certain pitcher matter too terribly much.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
hes a lucky bastard so far
also wish Delmon Young wouldn’t have swung at ball 4 ball 5 and ball 6 last AB
BYB just went apeshit
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 10, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that was a mess
I thought Leyland was going to get tossed there….
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Strange that he was really complaining too much about an HBP
Yeah it takes a run off the board, but a 2-2 count turns into a man on first is still a good outcome.
Not afraid to nitpick
Everything is brown and wilted...
try it again in April.
by guayzimi on Oct 10, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ryan Raburn goes yahd
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 10, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
check this out
He’s one in 500. That’s what the doctors say. Max Scherzer has heterochromia. His eyes are different colors. His right eye, the blue one, gleams with energy, like a hungry wolf’s. The brown eye is the watchful one, deep and refined like a walnut finish, the perfect color to unnerve someone with a stare.
http://www.mutigers.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/030706aag.html
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 10, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
a walnut finish?
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 10, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he's related to Stavi theChair
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 10, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, i was expecting Doug Fister to walk in the room at any moment
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
See this is what Carpenter needs
then when people accuse him of staring at hitters he can say “no, that’s just the way my eyes look”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 10, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
from BYB, lol
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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 10, 2011 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Tigers lineup was 1 for 13...
coming into the game against Holland. I don’t understand how this could be happening. Raburn was hitless in one at bat.
by guayzimi on Oct 10, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ugh
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/08/simpsons-al-jean-renewal/
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at this point I hope it goes on forever
it’s not like it can further damage its legacy or whatever it is people worry about, and I usually laugh whenever I catch a new one on accident.
I mean, it's time to end it
This is like the Rolling Stones still touring. Have some pride.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it was time to end it 15 years ago. Now, why the hell not keep going?
Maybe it’ll have a late-period Bowie Renaissance.
by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought seasons 10-20 or so were the slow decline into mediocrity
The last couple were near abomination. if you keep it going, it’ll only get worse and devolve further into self parody. We don’t need any more of that shit.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they should probably give someone new a chance
Rather than continuing to air Simpsons and Family Guy and the Cleveland Show. There are a lot of funny people out there.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The Adventures of Torty & Sir Glovington?
C’mon! That’d be awesome!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
And given what they have now, consider that they killed King of the Hill!
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 10, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
definitely
one of the most underrated shows on tv.
by DanUpBaby on Oct 10, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There was one episode last season that was the worst thing I've ever seen
Yeah, it’s sucked for awhile. So why do you want it to continue? Just looking for the spectacle? And you call yourself a vegetarian…
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess whenever I catch a few minutes of it, I enjoy it. It's reassuring that it's still there, somehow.
I would have preferred it end when it was still good, but that bird flew a long time ago.
I just don't think we should keep it running just because of it's legacy
It’s time for some new ideas.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of self-parody....
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
er, yes?
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never gotten the late-period Bowie renaissance thing,
although there are certainly a couple albums I haven’t heard. I like some of Earthling, but other than that for my tastes there hasn’t been much good Bowie or Bowie-related music since around 1980 besides the Labyrinth soundtrack and Flight of the Conchords’ parody of him (seriously, this is so fucking hilarious, I could watch it all day).
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 10, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Flight of the Conchords is/are hilarious.
I like Bowie in spots. I think Earthling is good and Outside was interesting. He still spins off great songs every once in a while. No, there are no more classics, but I’m glad he’s still making music.
David Bowie also has one brown eye and one blue eye
now we’ve come full-circle
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by peppermartin on Oct 10, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a friend who's also a Bowie fan
and he subscribes completely to the renaissance view – he thinks the trio of Hours, Heathen, and Reality are three of his best albums. I just don’t get it. I’m sure if I listened to some of his later stuff more there would be some songs that would stick with me, but I really haven’t been too excited by anything since Scary Monsters (and even that feels like the start of the decline).
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 10, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
As I think about it, the only artist I can come up with who's been around
a comparable amount of time and with whom I’m as excited about the newer stuff as I am about the earlier stuff is Tom Waits. That dude is just amazing – more than 30 years after his first album in 1973, some of the new stuff on his last release in 2006 was among the best of his career. (And he has a new album out later this month!!)
Now, I’m off to go buy some nipple antennae.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 10, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding? I'm not sure I could name a single thing he's done since the 1980's
What’s good?
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 10, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
A bunch of stuff. Magic Time and What's Wrong with this Picture are terrific, especially the latter.
His relatively new release of Astral Weeks live is very interesting. He’s definitely not in a rest phase right now.
I was also gonna say Paul Simon. He still puts out great stuff.
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by peppermartin on Oct 10, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, good call
Not as strong compared to earlier in his career as Tom Waits IMO, but definitely still some great music. Also, it’s hard to believe that Graceland is 25 years old.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 10, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I like David Byrne's new stuff
I wouldn’t say I’m as excited by it as I am by the talking heads, but given how good the early stuff is (for instance, Road to Nowhere is about the greatest 4 minutes of sounds ever produced by humankind) that can be forgiven.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I would recommend doing that
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
it's interesting
I need to listen to it again, I got it and then only really listened to it once.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I dug the shit out of Small Craft On Milk Sea
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
But, are you also "crypto?"
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think some of his earlier solo stuff - Uh Oh especially - is as good
as (if not better than) a lot of the Talking Heads stuff but his last couple haven’t done as much for me.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 10, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
re: Bowie
it kind of surprised me how much I liked this, since I happen to feel the same way about both Bowie & Reznor….interesting, but nothing to get excited about.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Are you familiar with Bowie's peak?
Station to Station through Scary Monsters is absolutely brilliant, and there’s some amazing material prior to that as well.
he's almost certainly got some good shit that I haven't listened to
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
When somethin gfrom Ziggy stardust comes on my random shuffle
I turn off the random and finish the album
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Speaking of Bowie
anybody ever play Omikron: The Nomad Soul
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 10, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If it's still drawing rating, that means people are still watching it.
Presumably, people aren’t stupid enough to watch something they don’t enjoy.
So why, then, is it “time to end it,” if the franchise is still profitable and making people happy?
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean no one does, and it doesn’t make your aesthetic judgment better than anyone else’s.
And this is from a guy who hasn’t watched an episode of the Simpsons in over a decade.
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I like to think my aesthetic judgment is objectively better than the average
And I give you Transformers, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and Transformers: Dark of the Moon as evidence.
Not afraid to nitpick
There is no such thing as "objective"
when it comes to aesthetics.
To someone who adores nothing more than seeing explosions and CGI of cities being crushed, then the Transformers seuqels are a godsend. Judging by the success of the films, there are plenty of those folks out there.
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I'm being semi-facetious
But those movies are clearly for the “MY BRAIN IS OFF: ENTERTAIN ME WITH SOMETHING” crowd, which I can and will judge.
Not afraid to nitpick
i'd disagree with aesthetics being completely subjective,
but then we get into things like the philosophical nature of beauty which i don’t think people will ever completely agree on.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
So aesthetics is not completely subjective,
but our opinions about aesthetics are completely subjective? Way to defend aesthetics by giving the shaft to meta-aesthetics! ;)
Although, I’ll admit, the philosophy grad student in me mostly just wants to extend the debate about aesthetics so that time passes more quickly until the game.
So you don't think movies, televesion, etc.
have a duty to try to raise the standards of entertainment? People will watch whatever is on, might as well at least make it somewhat intelligent or artistically viable.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Enjoy your BBC and PBS, then.
No, television has no duty to do anything in particular. It’s a business venture, not a fiduciary custodian of some undefinable standard.
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I don't watch BBC and PBS, I watch TV to be entertained
I don’t think that the aesthetic quality of something is completely subjective and undefinable.
By that logic you would argue that I could film a dog shitting on the lawn and wiping his ass on the ground for 5 minutes, and that would be the same quality and have the same right to be seen as a Scorsese movie.
Yes, Fascism is something to be feared, but so is complete populism.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If you don't watch PBS you are missing some of TV's most entertaining programs.
There are some great features on the Masterpiece program. Nature is also very cool and might be one of the most engaging shows aesthetically.
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I'm sure it is
But I’m usually looking for something a little more edgy and narrative based.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don't like watching baseball that much anymore
I mean I still enjoy it, especially if I like the starting pitchers, and the playoffs are exciting, but I don’t think I could sit down for 3 hours and watch a Cardinals-Pirates game with Al Hrabosky anymore.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because you don't like Hrabosky doesn't mean...
….
No, not even I can defend Al and stay in good conscience.
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I'm just saying.... it's pretty narrative based.
by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not at all
Unless you’re looking for it to be. That’s why I think I liked baseball more when I was younger – because I could buy into some of the narratives.
But the outcome of each game is just whatever comes out of a big meting pot of randomness. And that makes it harder to be invested in the narratives.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
god damnit
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, I'm so on a roll.
First I half-way won a mini-debate that vaguely involved statistics (see how much I hedged that?), and now this! EVERYTHING’S COMING UP FINK!
by a fink on Oct 10, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
PBS's Nature series is 100% narrative based
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 10, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
also they show animals eating and screwing
edgy as fuck
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 10, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You can and it does.
The Jackass movies pretty well embrace that theory of entertainment.
Just because you’d prefer something else doesn’t make what exists not good.
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So you think that all people's opinions and work should be treated with equal respect
That complexity, attention to detail, attempts at reaching profound ideas – none of these things should get any credence. Anyone has the right to smear shit on canvas and call it art? And people can’t complain when all forms of art follows suit?
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
So you think that all people's opinions and work should be treated with equal respect?
Yes. And the US constitution and bill of rights tend to back me up on that.
That complexity, attention to detail, attempts at reaching profound ideas – none of these things should get any credence.
No. I’m saying that something doesn’t have to be shut down completely because someone that has different tastes thinks it shouldn’t be there. These aren’t your dollars at work. It’s a private venture. The people at FOX can do what they want.
Anyone has the right to smear shit on canvas and call it art?
Yes. People can and do make low-effort, crappy stuff all the time and call it art. Robert Jordan and (in his more recent works) Steven King have made careers of this. I’m not going to say that we should remove all their computers and pens from them to prevent them from ever writing again, though.
And people can’t complain when all forms of art follows suit?
Complain and criticize all you like. Our initial disagreement came from you saying something you didn’t like should be shut down. Feel free to say, “I don’t like the Simpsons,” but expect to be disagreed with by me if you essentially say, “The Simpsons should be shut down because my word is absolute law in this matter and I think it’s not worth the effort anymore.”
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Actually the constitution does not back you up
There is a reason we have elected officials, because any idiot can tell you that some people are smarter and better than others.
I’m saying I want Simpsons canceled, so a new, hopefully better show, can take it’s place. I’m allowed to have that opinion you fascist.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if serious.
I need to know whether you’re being facetious or not with the fascist crack at the end before I can figure out how to respond.
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You're telling me I can't have an opinion about whether or not Simpsons should remain on air and scum up my TV
That’s what makes you a fascist bastard.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Still not sure if serious.
Did you not see two posts up where I said "Feel free to say, "I don’t like the Simpsons."
Whatever, dude. You win. Enjoy it.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're conflating saying "in my opinion something should end"
with “this must end.” there’s a drastic difference between what vep’s saying, however wrong he is (very wrong), and crypto-fascism.
I disagree with your assessment,
but in deference to maintaining a civil discourse, I’ll drop it.
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Throw some more groundballs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
basically, yes
Anyone has the right to smear shit on canvas and call it art?
The act of drawing a frame around something (regardless of what it is) is the act of art-making itself. There’s a passage in Zappa’s autobiography where he talks about this….I think the example he used is (paraphrasing) “if John Cage drinks orange juice and puts a contact mike on his throat, and then calls it music, it is.”
Your usage of the term “right” in the quoted sentence is noteworthy. When anybody tries to give artists an absolute law, a command—you must do this or you must not do that—artists will immediately try to find a way to subvert or undermine that imperative.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I disagree strongly with zapp there
I think art has a crucial moral component. but I’m too busy to argue about it.
zappa even
I’m too busy to use my entire keyboard. I am a very busy individual who cannot be bothered. etc.
You're just resisit the fascist placement of the "a" at the end of his name.
Fight the power.
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actually, I'm interested to hear you elaborate on that at some point
now that I’ve brought it up, I’ll have to go find the damn book and actually quote it.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
the summary is that I'm just a crotchety old man
who worries that his english department has abandoned the task of evaluating literature and sentenced itself to its own eventual irrelevance as a result.
don't worry
now that anyone can put a novel online in an electric format that can be download for a tenth of the cost of real books, literature will see a renaissance like nothing before.
Provided these people have spell check. maybe. kk tnx
Grit != flat out sucking.
Sort of like sportswriting?
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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm not worried about literature
though I think mfa fiction types like myself need to worry more about an external audience than we do, lest we end up conceding it to something else. but english departments have to get their acts together.
self-publishing is really exciting but I’m too much of an egomaniac to do it.
self-publishing will lead to some really great stuff getting out there that wouldn't have
it will cause everyone to have to sift through a lot of shit smeared on canvas before anyone can read it.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I so want to get involved in this conversation, but I'm going to go cook dinner instead.
Some future late night.
Well thats when you got bullshit modern art, like someone smearing shit on canvas
I’ve read Zappa’s book and it’s hilarious. But Zappa’s argument seem to contradict his own work, which was incredibly intricate and clearly striving to do something else besides breaking the rules.
As a musician yourself, are you not offended by really crappy music that is clearly done just so it can make money? Does listening to Tyga not depress you just a little bit?
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
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Well thats when you got bullshit modern art, like someone smearing shit on canvas
Not that people literally do that (Serrano being an obvious exception, but there’s a little more to it than that….)
But Zappa’s argument seem to contradict his own work, which was incredibly intricate and clearly striving to do something else besides breaking the rules.
Zappa was also pretty adamant about not taking things too seriously, which is why he’s singing about poop while playing all that very sophisticated music.
As a musician yourself, are you not offended by really crappy music that is clearly done just so it can make money? Does listening to Tyga not depress you just a little bit?
I don’t know if offended is the right word, but I certainly would prefer if everything in the world magically comported to my tastes ahead of time. I also know that I initially hated a lot of things that I now really enjoy, so even “my taste” is something that’s variable, rather than constant.
As far as making money is concerned, well….everybody’s got bills to pay. I try to avoid stuff I don’t like cause life is short. Now, if you hold me down and force me to listen to Britney, I might get pretty angry after a while….
Pretty much, the way I’ve learned to try to evaluate entertainment/art/whatever is to determine two things….1) what’s the author’s intent? and 2) are they succeeding on their own terms? Once I feel like I have a handle on those two things, then I can start to get a hold of what I think about something.
I guess Britney doesn’t make me nearly as angry as Simon Cowell does, if that makes any sense. I get really irritated at a lot of contempoary rap, but I’m not going to tell Lil Jon that he doesn’t have a right to do what he does.
(This is a good thing if I’ve never heard of Tyga, is that right?)
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
This guy smeared shit on canvas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Ofili
Although, it’s actually an image not just random shit.
Zappa seems mostly satirical to me. His lyrics are actually well thought out, just not in a particularly serious way. Satire is a form of art in itself, and Zappa was damn good at it (Joe’s Garage is possibly the funniest album of all time).
I agree that taste covers a lot of things, but I also think there have to be some standards for art/entertainment. I guess then James Joyce could tell us everything we do is crap and should not see the light of day.
I don’t really know where I stand on this I guess.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, see, that's what I'm getting at
it not just the usage itself, it’s the reason why, in context….why does he choose to use elephant shit, and not something else?
And that’s why I think attempting to formulate some set of rigid, objective standards for artistic expression is a fool’s errand. The proverbial poop-on-canvas isn’t happening in a vacuum, there’s some sort of motivation behind it, and that needs to be taken into account.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Well I think a lot of the motivations are not artistic
Some, like the Simpsons I would argue, would be to continue to make money and preserve their legacy rather than the make interesting stuff. Some just do it to be different.
Those people of course have the right to do whatever they want, but I think they should really not do those things. They just pollute the good stuff.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
just fyi
chris ofili is very satirical
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by YesWeOquendo on Oct 10, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
they don't have a pressing obligation,
but i’d like to think that people who make art would like to make good art, not just make money. perhaps that’s rare, but the attitude is preferable to me.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
The Simpsons is objectively shit now, it's a fact
People may not be stupid enough to watch something they don’t enjoy, but they are stupid enough to enjoy new Simpsons.
If we keep producing stuff just because people enjoy it, our culture is going to go to shit. Oh, wait…
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
when you run for president of sabermetrics in 20 years
I’m going to blackmail you with this egregious misuse of “objectively” and “fact.”
The Simpsons is a Pretty Good show, and for my money is better now than it was during most of your slow descent through mediocrity. I wish it were better, and I wish FOX had a better grasp of comedy than they do, so that I could be confident it would be replaced with something that wasn’t far worse, but it isn’t and I don’t.
Really?
Which metrics are you going with? “Number of timed VEP laughs per episode?”
As I said above, there is no “objective” when it comes to what people like. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be there. That’s bordering on fascist.
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I was mostly joking
But c’mon the show has clearly gone to shit. You can argue that it’s a matter of taste, but that’s just being contrary.
The Simpsons is only still running because of it’s legacy, not because the writers have any interesting ideas left.
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So, because I don't agree with you,
I’m being contrarian. I don’t see it that way.
But then, that’s probably my contrarian nature kicking in.
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No, because you're arguing that there is no objective standard for quality of television
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It's certainly not bad (IMO)
It’s never going to get back to the peak of seasons 3-8 or whatever exactly they were (10-15 years ago now!!), but every once in a while I fire up an episode on Hulu and I’ve found them to be consistently fairly good – not exactly the highest praise, but it’s definitely worth continuing to make.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 10, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit - make that 15-20 years ago!
That’s insane.
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 10, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
I still remember the first show that was a Christmas special – what a great episode.
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by peppermartin on Oct 10, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
and may it go on forever being overdubbed in spanish in latin america
which, to me, makes it even funnier
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by peppermartin on Oct 10, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
maybe given time they’ll become glorious again. I mean they’ve already passed the point of batting .500 on awesome episodes.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 10, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
sparsely
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The XXL Chalupa
In unrelated news, the US faces a national health problem from eating way too much all the time.
Not afraid to nitpick
Yeah, Fang is pretty gross
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how they add cheese sauce to it
“Hmmm, we’ve already made this bigger than an XL Chalupa…….and it’s a deep fried pita shell filled with high fat beef…….but something is missing”
“LET’S POUR SOME FAT ON IT”
“GENIUS”
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No, the world has an overpopulation problem.
We overweight people are trying to help by shortening our lifespans. Now you skinny people need to start picking up the slack. And the triple-fudge gordita burgers.
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Today's Simulation
Here is a link to the output of my simulation of today’s game. The link has the box score with all stats averaged from 100K games played. Plus the table with the top 150 most likely final scores is there. Good luck.
by Xeifrank on Oct 10, 2011 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
two more hours, really?
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oh maybe i will turn it on.
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it's actually kind nice to watch a baseball game where you're not feeling chest pains
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by peppermartin on Oct 10, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently FOX has done away with showing us a hitter's 2011 season stats when he bats.
Just the postseason stats.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
THEY ARE ALL THAT MATTER!
Everything resets in the postseason. FOX tells me this, so it must be true.
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Did anyone else just hear Terry Francona say
“I’ve never seen a 6 year old kid more comfortable wearing shower shoes with nothing else on”?
in reference to Victor Martinez’s kid.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 10, 2011 6:12 PM EDT reply actions
Yes.
And I started to wonder how many other 6 year olds had been put in that position. Then I stopped myself.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
oh. i forgot that i really like ian kinsler. hmm
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good news for us
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by peppermartin on Oct 10, 2011 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Brad Penny warming up in the pen
i havent seen anything out of him since the grand slam
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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 10, 2011 6:24 PM EDT reply actions
oh please no
i cant imagine he would come into a 1 run game, probably just to get work in since they never use him
cool
maybe BYB will put up his pitch f/x data.
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"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
If we lose tonight
I gotta sit on a 2-0 deficit until Wednesday. That’ll ruin my week.
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Slightly OT:
Anybody with an Android phone looking for a wicked collection of MLB wallpapers
It’s an .apk file, so be sure you have the “install from 3rd party/unknown sources” box checked under settings/applications
This is what the Cardinals wallpaper looks like:
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sweet, thanks!
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
does every stadium do a sausage race-type thing now?
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Not Busch.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
was that sam houston, jim travis, daniel boone and jim bowie?
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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 10, 2011 6:30 PM EDT reply actions
I'd really love to win tonight
because I honestly believe we can sweep our home series.
Also, it hit me this morning that if we win, we go to the fucking World Series. I don’t know why it didn’t hit me before.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 10, 2011 6:30 PM EDT reply actions
Random Edwin Jackson pics
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by CodyG on Oct 10, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure which one is a closer photoshop of Edwin Jackson looking like Michael Jackson
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by joker24 on Oct 10, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
thanks, every once in awhile i search for my name here
and I notice 10-15 reference have been made about me since I’ve been gone. I’m glad to be apart of such a great community.
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I leave for an hour, and this place delves into an epic Simpsons and facism debate.
How do I always miss the good stuff.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Always blame fang.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
sweet! I'm not the fall guy anymore!!!
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Don't worry.
As soon as you become a full-time poster again, the spot’s yours to lose.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 10, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It's funny, I still probably have posted more than 70% of people who have commented over the last 2 months
and I still lost my full time status.
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I didn't move to colorado and get married if that
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's what you're suggesting
/stupid sbn
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I didn't move to colorado.
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very good
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by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That commercial makes me think of the Parks & Rec episode
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
are we cheering for the tigers or something?
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retaliate for 68!
oh wait
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by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 10, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm trying to count the number of 1970s political movements this could have been a slogan for
and I don’t think I can count that high
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
No way
I can get amazing, free tickets for Rangers games. Cardinals-Rangers World Series!
Still not a werewolf.
How many?
I’m thinking a road trip could be fun
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 10, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
My brother-in-law's practice has killer seats and he offered them to me if I want them
I’ve only got 4, sorry.
Still not a werewolf.
I'm mailing them to Alex Trebek and crossing my fingers.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Oct 10, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
this is awesome.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
While I was saddened that inviting myself to a potential WS game was rejected
This would be pretty sweet if he turned up.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Oct 10, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that was awkward.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
hey VEP
since we’ve been talking about music…..you mentioned Tame Impala a few nights ago, and that jogged my memory….I heard this on the radio randomly a while back and missed what the name of it was….took me forever to figure it out. I want to listen to that whole album at some point.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Yeah, they are pretty cool
This almost sounds like the Doors to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiS8rft8vhA&feature=related
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 10, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ron Washington has managed the past inning.. interestingly.
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
using the pitcher brought in for the IBB instead of the one going out is a bit foolish
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
wooooooowww Andrus
Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
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