welcome to october. welcome to the playoffs.
it's here.
like christmas morning and easter and hannukkah and valentine's day all wrapped into one, but with baseball instead of stockings or candy or presents or depressing waves of loneliness and disappointment. instead, you'll be linked together to hundreds of thousands, millions of people all watching the same game, all pulling for the team just like you.
people have observed that our culture has gotten more and more fractured, more and more compartmentalized over time. there used to be just three major television networks, so huge portions of the nation might be watching one show all at the same time (your correspondent embarrassingly recalls having televisions with a separate UHF dial, when television in st. louis was limited to ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, an independent channel 11 - dedicated at the time to showing old three stooges episodes, mostly - and religious programming on channel 24. he also recalls first watching some of the first programming on the local FOX station - then channel 30 - including the Tracy Ullman Show, which then featured a certain animated short).
with cable tv, DVDs, the internet, and a thousand other demands on the attention of the entertainment consumer, very rarely does any program capture the attention of most of everybody. the baseball playoffs, like the NFL playoffs and a handful of other sports programs, have the rare feature of being something almost everyone watches.
not that having everybody watching the same program at the same time is necessarily a great thing; your correspondent also recalls tuning in with 83 million people to find out who shot J.R. (yes, virginia, there was a pop culture antecedent to "who shot mr. burns?"). i'm not sure that shared crap television uplifted our culture or made us forget our differences. it was just different, not necessarily better.
so, have you SEEN the roster for the playoffs? are you as OUTRAGED as i am? what were they thinking?
really, ANGEL HERNANDEZ? what the hell?
oh, yeah, i meant the UMPIRE rosters. apparently, we get saddled with angel hernandez in the NLDS. we miss the honor of having joe west and the rest of his staff (they'll be embarrassing themselves in the MIL-ARZ series), but this is sort of like holding the world championships of speedboating and inviting joseph hazelwood - apparently it's 1980's references day at VEB - to act as grand marshal. apparently, being literally the worst umpire in all of major league baseball gets you an invite to the post-season.
this does not seem like a sign that a serious quality control program is arriving any time soon for MLB. depressing.
the cardinal roster - based on the details leaked so far - seems more or less inoffensive. i was pleased to see kyle mcclellan not invited, while frequent doghouse inhabitant mitch boggs got the call -- this probably also means kyle has played his last game as a cardinal, which is good news as well. i am disappointed that arthur rhodes likely goes into the postseason, since he's simply useless. eduardo sanchez, notwithstanding his limited exposure this fall, looks like dynamite.
on the position player side, derrick goold just tweeted that chambers - as well as furcal and holliday - are on the roster. hopefully, this means that corey patterson and kyle mcclellan can keep each other company. i would expect holliday not to start today, and for allen craig (who now is seen in the company of milk cartons only when pouring his breakfast cereal) to start in LF.
the rotation looks like kyle lohse (tonight), carpenter, jaime, lohse (if necessary), carpenter (if necessary).
now, the question of the week: can we beat them?
yes, we can.
it will be tough to beat a team whose rotation goes halladay, lee, hamels. but we've already beaten them this season. more importantly, the aging phillies lineup - while not a pushover in any sense - is not what it once was. the phillies actually have the worst team wOBA of any team in the postseason and have scored fewer runs than any postseason team other than the rays. with age and injury afflicting chase utley and jimmy rollins, the phillies also have a far more porous defense (not that we can criticize anyone: the only postseason defense worse than philadelphia is, uh, us) than they did three or four years ago.
know your phillies
shane victorino is the most valuable phillie.
i'm going to let that sink in.
shane victorino is the most valuable phillie. always a solid contact hitter and a decent defender in the outfield, this pint-sized chap discovered some power this year, breaking the .200 ISO barrier for the first time. right now, he's the best hitter on the team.
chase utley, limited to 103 games by injury, is still a fantastic second baseman. i'm not sure how many whole seasons of st. louis second basemen you would have to stack on top of each other to get the 3.9 wins utley was worth in his abbreviated season, but it would probably take you back to 2008 or 2009. still a good defender, his injuries have kept him from a good year at the plate, even when healthy enough to take the field. i would take his uncharacteristic .344 wOBA from our second basemen any time.
jimmy rollins is still a good shortstop, but not a star. relatively healthy, he's just in an age-related relative decline. of course his relative decline is a 3.8 win season, which i would take from our . . . .well, you get the picture.
i will, however, take yadier molina over carlos ruiz, though chooch is not a bad option at catcher at all. just a touch under three wins with the bat.
placido polanco has adapted extremely well to his third base conversion, remaining an elite defender if a subpar hitter. polanco is giving zimmerman a run for his money for best defender at third in the NL.
hunter pence is a lucky sumbitch. he's done nothing but hit in philadelphia, to the tune of a .348 BABIP. i have a hard time buying into his 2011 as anything but luck since he's only once had a wOBA better than .360 in his career. i thought the astros sold high on him, and i am ready for him to start regressing. yup, any day now would be just fine . . . .
ryan howard has a .354 wOBA at first base (which ties him for 13th best offensive performance among first basemen) and has been worth 1.6 wins this season. someone will still vote for him as MVP.
the travesty in the outfield this year has been raul ibanez. the aging slugger signed to a 3 year deal has been worth -1.3 wins, hitting a descalso-esque .306 wOBA, with atrocious defense. the more we see of him the better.
the phils stabilized the non-victorino parts of the outfield somewhat by trading for pence, but have struggled to fill the other corner. a mix of ben francisco, john mayberry, and the now-injured domonic brown have filled in. mayberry has looked pretty good in limited exposure.
there are a lot of solid players - assuming they stay healthy - but, other than victorino, no huge stars.
the rotation is the best in baseball - maybe one of the best there's ever been. that's the scary end of the 2011 phillies. if some balls fall our way, though, the cardinals' pretty solid offense could hang a few runs even on the hand full of aces the phillies have dealt themselves.
in any event, we're going to see some great baseball.
[edit: official roster information up -
correction to prior statements - it appears they will aim at having westbrook or (more likely) jackson start game 4, rather than lohse again. along with starting pitchers carpenter, lohse, and garcia, the NLDS roster includes the following:
Adron Chambers was the chief beneficiary of the team's roster composition, and he'll stick as a pinch-runner, defensive replacement and super-sub for the Cardinals. The other 13 hitters will be: Yadier Molina, Gerald Laird, Albert Pujols, Skip Schumaker, Furcal, David Freese, Nick Punto, Daniel Descalso, Ryan Theriot, Holliday, Jon Jay, Lance Berkman and Allen Craig.
Right-handers Jason Motte, Fernando Salas, Octavio Dotel and Mitchell Boggs will be joined by lefties Marc Rzepczynski and Arthur Rhodes in the bullpen. Edwin Jackson and Jake Westbrook, who are not starting in the first three games, will be available in relief at least for Games 1-2.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I concur.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
woot woot!
/yes, I watched American Juggalo yesterday. It is, at once, the most disturbing and yet mesmerizing thing I’ve ever seen.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Holy shit, this is really happening.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions
slap yourself a few times to be sure
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
but if you slap it more than twice
you’re playing with yourself
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonna go splash cold champagnia on my face.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
and then you smell so nice!
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes, it is.
Texas A&M and Arkansas are playing in Cowboys Stadium.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
we're not scaremongering
this is really happening, happening….
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Oct 1, 2011 12:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I can top (or bottom, as it were) your early TV availabilty
as a young boy I grew up with TWO channels. We didn’t get the ABC affiliate until 1960.
And we watched on a screen that was about 12" diagonal.
None of this makes sense to me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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you have to walk 20 miles uphill, both ways, in the snow to understand
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
and the tv was in a cabinet the size of a chest of drawers
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. Ours would turn on automatically when you open the wooden roller doors
to the tv screen. It was quite fancy for its day. He he.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
I had two channels until I was about 12 or so.
No ABC affiliate in my part of MT until 88 or so, I think.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
most disturbing poster-avatar mix ever.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
My goal is to drive him slowly insane.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
you are such an ass
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I've been waiting for this
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
...

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I like that it's this cute little green check box.
Like “RiverRat has been banned yay!”
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Whoa whoa whoa now
Where did this game from?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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got milk – check
called plumber – check
paid rent – check
banned riverrat – check
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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
how long you gonna let him twist in the wind?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm back, for now.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
wth is happening, i don't want you to be banned
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 1, 2011 3:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
tis all a joke,
mostly.
I think.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
how am i the only person to rec this?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I was banned.
I couldn’t.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
can someone tell me what the hell happened?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Pay attention to the details Nick.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
i had the craziest week ever. you'll have to pardon me.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It took me a second too.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
geez. CG is harsh. It's a good thing I'm nice and didn't mock you at all anywhere in this thread.
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You would never mock him. EVER.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
why thank you.
that’s rather kind.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He is so kind.
I should strive to be more like a fink.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Want me to send you some nice Buddhist books?
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I think I'm going to just reread The Tao of Pooh.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Outstanding!
The Te of Piglet was such a disappointment.
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I have to get this.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
youre going to get banned too
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
he can bite my shiny metal ass.
Asshattery: it’s an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 12:01 AM EDT upreplyactions
.he will. it’ll hurt
“I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv” – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would’ve count 78by d-dee on Oct 1, 2011 12:04 AM EDT upreplyactions
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
don't you rain on my postseason parade!
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
aaaand now I'm gonna be listening to Bobby Darin for the next few hours
…..not that that’s a bad thing
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Oct 1, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HEYYYYYYYYY WORLD!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Too late

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WHY DO YOU PEOPLE KEEP DOING THIS? !?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 1, 2011 12:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Y2S started it
He mentioned Rains.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
What?
Oh, right.
/stupidliberalartsdegree.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
hahahahahaha
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Heh.
Did I mention I’m holding a job doing cost accounting and profit analysis with a history degree?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
That's IMPOSSIBLE!
Wait, did you got to a school that’s ranked in the top 15 in accounting?
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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That kinda goes with what my brother John always said.
“It didn’t matter if you had a degree in masturbation and self-abuse as long as you had the piece of paper.”
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
magna cum laude?
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
well, summa cum laude anyway
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I had to type this after I got done laughing at yours.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
"This is the 44 magna.
The most powerful cum laude in the world, and would blow your head clean off. So you gotta ask yourself a question ‘Do I feel lucky?’. Well, do ya….punk?"
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It could be worse.
They could be posting Straussface.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Also, check out Cusumano.
Guy is making everyone look bad.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
he looks like a made man
/been watching mobster flicks
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He just wishes
He was watching Desmet-Vianney instead.
by Merry CRasmus on Oct 1, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
strauss looks like he hasn't moved his bowels in a week.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
i was thinking more like an asshole with hemorrhoids.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
according to sources familiar with the situation
he hasn’t.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
This is a family blog.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
can someone cut that down to just strauss?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
you know, the contrast is high enough that you could use a good cut-out tool
and stick that in other pictures.
not that I would condone such a thing.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well when you brownnose as much as Strauss
Your bound to eventually make that face
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm currently making jerky
all will be well in the baseball world. I’ll be sure to offer some up to Torty.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions
i don't think tortoises are into that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I have a snapping turtle that would like a word...
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Or a hand.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
well, that's a turtle. not a tortoise
and what’s the size on your snapping turtle?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
those things are badass
not sure about ginger santa
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That looks about the size of the one in our pond.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
btw tom, thank for this very informative writeup
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Oct 1, 2011 12:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The Phillies' roster kind of stinks once you get past the big three starters...
Carlos Ruiz®
Brian Schneider (L)
Ryan Howard (L)
Chase Utley (L)
Placido Polanco®
Jimmy Rollins (S)
Ross Gload (L)
Wilson Valdez®
Michael Martinez (S)
Raul Ibanez (L)
Shane Victorino (S)
Hunter Pence®
John Mayberry Jr.®
Ben Francisco®
Roy Halladay (RHP)
Cliff Lee (LHP)
Cole Hamels (LHP)
Roy Oswalt (RHP)
Vance Worley (RHP)
Ryan Madson (RHP)
Antonio Bastardo (LHP)
Mike Stutes (RHP)
Brad Lidge (RHP)
Kyle Kendrick (RHP)
Joe Blanton (RHP)
The bench and bullpen are awful.
At least Carlos Ruiz is protecting his name!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
"stinks" is too strong a word. they have a ton of players who are average or better, but few stars.
chooch, utley, rollins, polanco, victorino, pence, and mayberry are all above average for the year. howard and ibanez are disappointing. but, yes, if utley or rollins were lost to injury, the step down to valdez (not valdes) is pretty substantial.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
The more playing time Ibañez receives over Mayberry, the better.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
am I losing it
or didn’t Mayberry play 1st against the Cards in the recent 4-gamer in place of Howard vs. lefties?
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
yes he did.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
*vs Garcia
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
also, the bullpen's awfulness will be mitigated by having oswalt and/or worley in it.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
Worley and Madson...
are the only solid bullpen arms… Every other guy is a good opportunity to score runs.
Ah yes, I remember Channel 11
Was on Captain 11’s Showboat in the early 60’s, for a birthday party. They had us sitting on a tiered seating platform. I was on the top row, and at one point, while Captain 11 was talking to the camera, it panned to us, just as I lost my balance and fell off the back. Took a month before I stopped being kidded about that by my fellow third-graders.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 1, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions
any suggestions
on how us fans without cable television can be a part of the shared cultural moment of watching the mlb playoffs? each year i hope mlb will give us some sort of mlb.tv option for the playoffs,but we keep getting stuck with that dumb single-camera nonsense. i have as yet been unable to find any, ahem, alternative methods.
i suspect mike shannon and john rooney are in my future…
ok...
wedding at 3pm. Hopefully short
Game starts at 4pm.
reception is at 5pm. Hang out for a few minutes and then sneak to the bar…
out of there by 5:45 to catch the end
Drag out the commerical breaks TBS
Grit != flat out sucking.
I'm at work till 5,
two hours after game start. I either listen on my phone, or go all media blackout and watch it on the dvr. I’m really afraid that TBS is going to hose us all, and cut to the Yankees game.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
not in st. louis
not without starting a two city riot.
mlb At Bat will be my friend
Grit != flat out sucking.
If the Cards/Phills are still playing
when the Yankees game starts, will they move it TNT? I seem to remember that happening in the past.
Last night they showed that the game following STL-PHI was on TNT
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Holy Crap!
Just now heard that Adron is on instead of Patterson. How did they pull this off, since Adron wasn’t on the roster on Aug.31? I haven’t seen a Cardinals roster, is Punto on? Help, help, I’m being repressed.!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 1, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
It's pretty easy to get around that rule...
you can use guys on the 40 man to replace any other injured player.
Here's an article from stlcardinals.com
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
does this mean
Mozeliak said there is little concern that Holliday could significantly aggravate the injury. Instead, it is a matter of pain tolerance. Holliday did not receive an anti-inflammatory shot in his hand, because it likely would have sidelined him for long enough that he’d have been left off the roster.
That he just drank a beer and no shot? Or no beer at all?
Grit != flat out sucking.
thanks - edited OP to include the official roster reports.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
Punto on, Chambers a DL replacement for Wainwright
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
sanchez probably should have made it over westbrook
and k-mac probably deserved it over rhodes.
other than that, i’m quite happy with roster.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
I can see Westy on the roster if they make it to the second round,
but in the short series, I’d prefer to have the shutdown closer.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
sanchez would have absolutely not been the closer....
but he would have been a hell of a 7th/8th/situational righty.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, closer wasn't the right word.
just shut down righty.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no corey patterson
this is the best we could’ve hoped for
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Say it with me, folks:
WORK THE COUNTS. our best bet every night will be to get to their pen.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
The Twitters were hyping an article about that this morning.
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Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Found it.
“The big key is against all of these guys, you have to be ready to hit,” McGwire said. "When they throw their pitches they don’t miss by much. When you’re ready to hit, and you stay in your (zone), you take those bastard pitches — that’s what we call them — and you do work the count. We’ve done a good job all year against them of working the count, getting that pitch count up, and that will be our plan.
“That’s the thing I’ll be talking about (today).”
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and this is why they were successful all year long.
they got to the bullpen. all year long. there’s no reason to think this won’t continue.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
stop it now
or i’ll actually get excited rather than just being content that the team has a post-season appearance.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
this year's team has been excellent at grinding down starters and getting into bullpens
it’s the only way to beat a team like this….gotta neutralize their starters with lots of 10-pitch ABs.
Also—P/PA:
Freese 4.02
Lego 3.92
Rasmus 3.88
Riot 3.83
[lg avg 3.79]
Berk 3.78
AP 3.65
Schu 3.65
DD 3.62
Jay 3.62
Yadi 3.47 (<—this is the one I’m surprised by)
That might be Theriot’s most important skill, really.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I bet Theriot will beat that mark in the playoffs if he gets significant AB's.
He was over 4 for much of the season until his massive slump, and it seems like he has fixed his problem.
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I guess it would make sense for power hitters to see fewer P/PA on avg
1) they’re going to get greenlighted on the first pitch more often than a punch & judy hitter, and
2) as we learned in 1998, the first pitch is often the only strike (or only fastball, anyway) that a power hitter will see in his entire PA
I’m kind of bummed to see Pujols that far down, though.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Eh, I don't know. We'd need to look at larger sample size.
I suspect good power hitters are highest on the list due to careful pitching.
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the ones that take walks, anyway
I’m trying to come up with a reason why Holliday would be way above avg, Berkman right at it, and Pujols so far down. None of the three of them strike out a lot, so that’s not it. I dunno. I wonder how much of it is just random variation, like BABIP.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
I think career-wise both Pujols and Berk are vg.
Well, no. Pujols is around average. Hm….
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Crap, I didn't even see Holliday was that high
Well, now I’m really confused. I thought the power combined with contact rate explained it. Now idk.
to find it again
go to B-R; get the Cards 2011 page up; under the Batting tab, click More Stats, and scroll way down.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
yeah
I’m confused too…..obviously there’s a skill component and a luck component to this stat, but I don’t know what the ratio is. Maybe it’s mostly skill and the different numbers reflect different strategies. Pujols was definitely swinging at everything early on, and anecodtally he seemed more patient in the 2nd half.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
It gets weirder, check out first pitch swings
Holliday 33%
Berk 37%
Pujols 18%
What? Pujols first pitch swing the LEAST and still sees the fewest pitches?
Berk swings at a lot of first pitches
He put the first pitch in play 94 times this year, and went .435/.426/.772 on those pitches.
Ignore those, and his P/PA goes up to 4.32.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
as a comparison
name SW1st PAtotal %SW1st Yadi 92 518 18% Berkman 94 587 16% Rasmus 82 526 16% Schu 59 400 15% Lego 62 511 12% Jay 61 503 12% Theriot 54 483 11% Freese 32 363 9% Pujols 56 651 9%
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
BASTARD PITCHES!!!
i feel a new meme coming on.
“Westbrook throwing nothing but bastard pitches tonight”
“Craig smoked that bastard!”
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
gotta rec
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, this is annoying, can't find PA/PITCH data on baseballreference or
fangraphs, even though baseballreference has team numbers. You would think that someone would make it easily accessible seeing that folks have done articles on it. See hardballtimes or billjamesonline. But no. When are they going to provide more rate stats? It doesn’t make sense to me that many of these stats do not consider exposure. Argh.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Thank you my good sir. Pit/PA data is surprising.
Pit/PA
Nick Punto 4.21
David Freese 4.02
Adron Chambers* 4
Tyler Greene 3.95
Matt Holliday 3.92
Allen Craig 3.9
Ryan Theriot 3.83
League Average 3.79
Lance Berkman# 3.78
Rafael Furcal# 3.74
Gerald Laird 3.71
Albert Pujols 3.65
Skip Schumaker* 3.65
Daniel Descalso* 3.62
Jon Jay* 3.62
Yadier Molina 3.47
Corey Patterson* 3.11
Team Total 3.74
Punto at the top was no surprise at all. But I didn’t know Greene was above league average. I thought Berk would be higher. Albert has been very impatient this year. And no surprise to anyone, Patterson is dead last.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Yep, Agreed. I was not surprised because of inference. But even the times that
I’ve watched him (recalling the sample only), I thought he was swinging freely. I think he really progressed throughout this year, but that would entail tracking the per game data.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
D'oh that's already been posted
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
I don't know if that gets you anywhere...
with Halladay and Lee. You just end up in a hole… They don’t walk anyone.
except for that one time
when we forced Lee to walk six.
Actually, it’s more of Don’t swing at balls, are bad pitches early in the count.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Halladay is quoting Bill Shakespeare
‘“I came here to bury Caesar, not praise him,” Halladay said. "I think it’s true. We’re all aware of how good the team is. We obviously have respect for what they’ve done and how they’ve played, but you have to be confident going in that you’re going to be able to beat them."
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
it's really too bad that we don't get a Carp-Doc match-up
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
made for the ages
heads might explode from their stares
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
are we really going to start pitchers on short rest on 3/5 games in this series?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
the rotation looks like kyle lohse (tonight), carpenter, jaime, lohse (if necessary), carpenter (if necessary).
that would be short rest for games 2, 4, and 5.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
looks like they'll take westbrook or jackson in game 4. sorry for the confusion.
game 5 should be full rest for carp.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
this makes more sense...
unless they go with Westbrook.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
fair enough.
and i totally did my math wrong. yay extra travel day for game 5! they used to not do that…
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure Jackson starts game 4
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
NO COREY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
lineup...
furcal
craig, 9
pujols
berkman, 7
freese
molina
schumaker
jay
lohse
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
works for me.
I don’t like Jay batting 8th instead of schumaker, but you gotta let Tony be Tony, I guess.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
since the all start break skip is
.306 / .357 / .369 / .727
While Jon jay is
.290 / .336 / .411 / .747
I still like Jay, but yeah, got to let Tony be Tony
Grit != flat out sucking.
phillies
Rollins SS, Utley 2B, Pence RF, Howard 1B, Victorino CF, Ibanez LF, Polanco 3B, Ruiz C, Halladay P
DO IT FOR TORTY!
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that lineup looks so much tougher than it actually is
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
rollins and utley have more or less sucked this year, right?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
they've been worse than normal - sucked is a strong word. they're both better than average hitters, and better
than we’ll likely see from either SS or 2B on our side.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
position by position (offense only)
catcher: cardinals
first base: cardinals
second base: phillies
third base: push
shortstop: phillies
left field: cardinals (holy shit ibanez has BLOWN this year)
center field: phillies
right field: push
3 phillies, 3 cardinals, 2 pushes
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
pence: .378 wOBA, .871 OPS
berk: .402, .959
you win.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess i should have made that clear....
i’m comparing berkman to pence and craig to ibanez.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
even though that's not their real positions today.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
its not?
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berk in left, craig in right
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
oh i see
craig in rf.
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i know what the WAR numbers say
but i take berkman over victorino every day of the week
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damn.
i was giving you the benefit of the doubt. now you are even more wrong
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anyone else chuckle at hunter pence being in the albert pujols slot?
i mean, that seems silly
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That's where he hit in Houston too.
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Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
really?
but it makes more sense in that lineup
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wait, i thought they pushed today's game to an evening slot?
the cards site says it’s a 4pm game still.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
what he said.
i made the same mistake as tom when i first say that tweet. didn’t notice the word “sunday”
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
ok. gamethread rescheduled.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
i'm not giving 110%, i'm maybe giving about 64% here. deal with it.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
must say that I am quite relieved that patterson and mcclellan are not on the playoff roster
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 1, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
yep.
its still not the perfect roster, but its better than I thought it’d be
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez over Westbrook
is actually the only tweak I’d make. I’d like to find a spot for Greene, but I guess Chambers is going to be handling Greene’s base running duties and that helped force Patterson off, so I’ll live with it.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
agree.
i dislike rhodes, but the phillies have a lot of lefties. it makes sense to have him, so long as HE ONLY EVER PITCHES TO LEFTIES
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not really. he's worse at pitching to lefties than our right-handed pitchers are.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
heh
then never mind.
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this is true.
also he’s a dinosaur. Watching the FSN feed of the Cards watching the ATL/PHI game, I couldn’t figure out who the old guy in the chair was. Turned out to be Rhodes. Looked like he was about 54 years old with a big grandpa gut.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
he's not old,
just UNDEAD.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
Weather may have dictated that.
With rain in the forecast, it may make sense to have another starter available in case a game gets suspended early, as happened last night in NY.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Oct 1, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
if i just have regular mlb.tv (no postseason package)
can i still use a proxy to watch the games live?
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With Premium you can. I'm not sure about the standard package.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
cool i have premium
stuck at work this morning, want to watch the dbacks – which i think starts soon
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i wish he was drinking an orange slice
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i was thinking while watching it
that today would have been a good day for a kyle lohse-starring play in one act
has lohse ever pitched in the post season?
he was hurt in 09 right?
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Check the frontpage of the mothership
They had a pic of Berkman and Holliday during the workout yesterday. Holliday was practicing something.
(Also, this year it’s Avocados of Mexico.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
well they call it avocados from mexico, now
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah, i think people were confused about Hass being a brand name when it is a type
Here is a link to my google+ profile.
or they finally acknowledged the cursédness of it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
has anyone seen hazel lately?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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hazel was in the thread . . . yesterday, i think?
check his profile for last comments.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
and he's still somewhat active on the twitters.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, no Corey Patterson!!!
Who laughs last now, robot?!
http://twitter.com/#!/azruavatar/status/119262420769320960
everybody but the Phillies
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
it's dry in philly right now, per someone's twitter.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
weather.com seems to think we'll play.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Arizona-Milwaukee on now.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
lets go dbacks!
Die Hard Cards Fan in Seoul.
by letsgostlcardinals on Oct 1, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
aw, post season tv is only 5.99
i might just buy it. but i wonder if i will get blacked out of the dbacks game
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IHB!
tell us about Arizona
i find myself under-educated, and i don’t want to get all my info from the “announcers”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the team, I mean.
we know about the haboobs.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
its like albert pujols and hte seven dwarfs
only its justin upton. ian kennedy is sneaky good
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is this playoffs double the upton?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
how bad are they missing Drew?
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Pretty bad apparently...
Willie Bloomquist is playing. Also, Joe Saunders is starting game 3 instead of Dan Haren. What is it about Dan Haren that causes teams to get rid of him for left handed crap?
it didn't turn out to be as bad as we all thought it would be
i mean, they lost probably their second-best position player and still finished with 94 wins. but i suspect the loss of buster posey helped. but i think the dbacks made some deals they wouldn’t have made if drew had been healthy. like i think aaron hill is a good pickup over kelly johnson
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FWIW, with Postseason.tv you don't get the game the way that it's shown on the broadcast.
You get to choose from various fixed cameras, I believe.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah i remember that from last year.
proxy it is.
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Is it raining in Milwaukee?
Why is the roof closed?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
12 across, Unfair Advantage
hmmmm.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
do I want the Diamond backs to because I hate the brewers
or do i want the brewers to win for a Cardinals – Brewers match up
Grit != flat out sucking.
the correct answer is arizona because.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
because then i get to see some games!
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
if the cardinals can get past philly,
bring on the Brewers. But i don’t want Milwaukee advancing if the Cards don’t. Nyjer has to eat those goddamn words by watching the cardinals still playing after mil has been eliminated.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
brewers. lets go brewers.
REALLY hoping for Yankees/Rays and Brewers/Cards.
Here is a link to my google+ profile.
I feel like Crew/Cards would be guaranteed at least one brawl.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this is why Cleto will be on the NLDS roster
99 to Morgan’s throat
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the call I made in the predictions thread.
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Brewers-Cards would be epic...
I’m sure FESPN would be more than satisfied having missed out on Red Sox/Yankees…
DBs
I don’t want to see Greinke/Marcum/Gallardo again this year if we can help it. Also, I have this irrational fear that Narveson would pitch Game 4 and throw a no-hitter.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
YIKES
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
Nice call, Matt Williams.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Victor Rojas and Joe Simpson.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
I might be checking out the radio feeds.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
d'oh!
Now, before you go to any trouble, please note that the national broadcast on ESPN Radio will feature none other than Joe Morgan. Alas, Bote’s has yet to offer any solutions to that problem.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
oh..i have no idea
didn’t realize it was old, just kinda skimmed through
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Went to Uecker.
I actually think he’s a little overrated, but might be interesting with his boys in the postseason.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
they need to start mass producing Vin Scully clones
..and soon!
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Braun preening for the crowd after throwing out a runner who had no business going.
I fight it, but I might kind of hate the Brewers.
"No badges available for this game."
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
who could argue with cheese sauce
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Any ideas as to the time of Tuesday's game?
I have tickets and I don’t want to have to call in sick to work…
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
go cards.
no guarantee
but they’re listed as playing the third of four games, so i’m assuming it follows todays time format
Would there be a later game than a 7 game?
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Oct 1, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i doubt it
tomorrow’s game starts at 7:30, but that’s only because of the yankees makeup game and trying to keep games from overlapping
commercials.
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Oct 1, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I won't be around tonight because I'm going downtown again tonight...
But this time to watch the Tigers play V-Tech. I’m hoping Tiger Town Tavern has at least one TV playing the Cards game.
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WAT
@dgoold
Derrick Goold
La Russa said final roster spot came down to Greene or Chambers. Left unsaid was reason: speed, speed, speed. #STLcards #Cardinals
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
3) related to your screenname
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
wait, what?
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Are you sure?
My read on it was that the last roster spot was reserved for someone with speed — either Chambers or Greene.
I'm confused b/c despite Goold's tweet, it seems as if
Chambers was taken over Patterson, not Greene. Greene is mostly an IF.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
neither would see much playing time
and Tony wouldn’t be shy about putting Greene in the OF
Grit != flat out sucking.
still though
it suggests that Tony wasn’t ever really considering Patterson, which is awesome
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
why should he consider patterson though?
I mean, patterson really doesn’t have any skills that scream “one of Tony’s guys.”
Grit != flat out sucking.
only Proven Veteranness
although I guess at this point we all should be aware that the stuff about Tony & vets is a little overblown.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Chambers better do this during the playoffs
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I will always rec that
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Y'all are ruining AZ's playoffs!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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I love banning people
but the game threads are going to be just me talking to myself.
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But don't forget how much fun you are
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by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I know
and it’s not like there aren’t enough voices in my head to talk to
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by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Fun fact: They all dislike TLR
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by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
we do
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by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
what the hell is wrong with you
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
now, if you really want to mess with azru, you should all take bender avatars, and then say a bunch of things he'd
never say.
“why isn’t corey patterson starting?”
“that ryan howard sure knows how to hit homers. wish he played for us.”
then azru will think that somehow he’s said these things.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
#Gamethread tactics
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
I figured it was to get OF/IF balance
Do people really not see that Greene is successful 88% on steal attempts and Chambers is 64%? That’s just steals of course, but Greene is a good all around runner too.
I’m not against Chambers getting it, far better than Patterson, but the reasoning is disturbing.
by Merry CRasmus on Oct 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Greene only has 0.5 Bsr runs according to Fangraphs in his career
-0.3 this year
(Bsr does NOT include SB/CS though)
oops, forgot to add that it's obv. a sss
But still interesting to note — does anyone know of a stat baserunning stat with a larger sample size from the minors?
obviously tyler greene is awesome but
i support having chambers over him, if it could only be one or the other, because chambers can actually play CF. gob forbid something happens to jay, then we have allen craig or skip schumaker starting in CF in the freaking playoffs
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
NOOOoooooo
but i mean, like jay gets injured during a game
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
or injured for only one game or something
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
what
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
yeah i don't know what you mean.
you don’t see the logical reason for having chambers over greene??
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
You mentioned the possibility of Jay getting hurt
Then Evilfrog says Patterson comes up…I mis-assigned that comment to you in my mind as the sub-thread kept going.
Apologies
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 1, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
no worries. i probably just jinxed the whole damn thing anyway.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
Oh I do too
I am pleased with the playoff roster. No gripes really. I just don’t get how speed, speed, speed is the criteria that causes you to side with Chambers over Greene. That’s all.
by Merry CRasmus on Oct 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
oh i read that differently
the last spot went to someone with speed, not that chambers was chosen over greene because of his speed
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Reading it more closely now
You’re probably right.
by Merry CRasmus on Oct 1, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't believe that
But it would be pointless to argue since I haven’t seen them line up in a 40 yard sprint. I’d rather have Chambers because I don’t know where Holliday is at, and you might want the defensive replacement.
by Merry CRasmus on Oct 1, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
speed was the decieded
but I think “not a total black hole of suck” was a buy in.
Grit != flat out sucking.
tlr picks less experienced player only marginally faster
tg has the house to himself
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Via Edwin Jackson the next year, I believe.
And what was their end of that… Scherzer and who else?
A golf clap for Josh Byrnes is in order, I think.
not me
because i won’t be able to hear Rick Horton pronounce his name “the correct way” every time there’s a shot of him.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Random picture time
I found this buried in my cardinals pictures folder….forgot I made it.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
FREE AT LAST!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
#FreeRiverRat briefly trending on Twitter.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a good thing you answered. CG would have insulted him.
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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I informed VEB that I was feeling feisty yesterday.
And then I went out last night and made friends with some Yankees fans at the bar so I am still feeling feisty.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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i can't be friends with you.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
They were very cute.
And funny.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
We were thinking about organizing a protest, but it never materialized.
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Thought about a candlelight vigil, but there's a burn ban down here.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Too many goo sports on TV today.
There was no way I was leaving my TV.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
NOOOOOOO GOOD*
Dang it!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
dammit it's been done.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm almost thinking to commemorate a special day the newest McLaughlin DWI mugshot might be new avatar...
Or just keep what I’m doing…decisions…
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
WOOO! My wife is off school for a week, my kid is crapping on the toilet, and the Cards are in the playoffs.
Simple pleasures are the best.
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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
aww crap
I just realized I may be forced to get a new avatar in a couple months
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
nah. i'm still rocking mine
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
but yours is relevent to the name, though.
Gonna have to back to rockin’ the ’89 topps Todd Burns card I guess
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck
Joel Sherman
I am shocked, but in last 36 hrs every exec talk to says believe #Redsox will give permssion and Theo will go to #Cubs to be GM
The the pitchers can drink in the clubhouse during their off days!
Maybe bring Zambrano back?
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 1, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
+ blue pin stripes + baby bear logo = still the cubs
Does Theo go straight to the HOF if he ends both the sox and cubs curses? Gonna have to say yes.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the right move for him...
if he wins a WS in Chicago he punches his ticket to the HOF.
Things just got serious in the NL Central – thank god for two WCs.
even if he just makes it to the WS...he won't even have to win it
that streak is now at 66 years i believe
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he not already in the HOF?
Ends Red Sox curse, I’m guessing he’s also youngest GM to win WS, won 2 WS with them, they’re now perennial postseason threats even in the toughest division in baseball.
You could argue this makes him inner circle, or Branch Rickey status, I guess, but I think he’s already HOF.
that's what I was thinking
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
he is...
i meant immediate election
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno...
looking at this list http://www.baseball-almanac.com/hof/hofmem.shtml there aren’t many executives, and only like two are from the last few decades. I think you gotta be transcendent to get in as a GM.
I counted 11 since 1990
But I think 4 were from the Negro Leagues, and at least were a commissioner or owner, just without looking them up.
So I guess that leaves 5 or fewer elected since 1990, and without looking up when they were active. Idk, I’d put Epstein in that company, but I see your point.
meh
I’m not gonna panic til it’s official….and even then the Cubs’ entire organization is all jacked up right now. It’s not like they’d turn into a juggernaut overnight.
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Yea it would take a few years.
Do they even have anything to build around? Starlin Castro is good, but he’s not really a cornerstone.
I suppose both...
mostly he’s just hugely overrated. I believe the guy lead the league in outs made and error this year… not that errors are the go to stat, but he seems pretty bad defensively.
His defense is pretty lousy according to UZR.
but he’s still 21. I don’t think he’ll get better, but I would be nervous about skill erosion the farther he gets from 25 or so. Until then, he seems like a useful piece.
does he do it, and then hire tito?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
bets on who will score first in this game?
i’m picking dbacks right now
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
I'm hoping it's a really ugly game/series
And the SP and Bullpen both get beat up and lot’s of errors
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on that - I would say yes
but I in NYC it is pouring and my dad who lives about 45 min from Philly says its pouring there too.
1.14.10, the day I went green.
I'd love to have the games postponed
Carp gets to pitch on normal rest
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want to see LaRussa start Westbrook at the last minute while the Phillies burn Halladay..
Perfect spot to repeat that move he pulled on Dusty.
it doesnt look like its supposed to rain in philly until late tonight
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
I find it's just easier to blame ESPN for everything
Global Warming – FESPN
Terrorists – FESPN
Corey Patterson – FESPN
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR - FESPN
NBA – FESPN
Miguel Batista’s shutout – FESPN
Khomeini – FESPN
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Corey Patterson has 0 games left in his cardinals career.
Mr. Epstein, can I make a recommendation for your first signing as Cubs GM?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That's honestly a happy thought.
Like obviously it’s a good thing, but it’s actually soothing to me.
i thought football didn't start until November.
you know…right as hockey season starts.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
What's the reasoning on Westbrook>Sanchez?
Sanchez still too much of an unknown?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
i assume sanchez is too much of a health risk.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
Only for an injury.
Also, can someone explain how they managed to magic away Corey Patterson?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
everybody knows you have to have a long man in the playoffs
nah actually i bet the reasoning is just because he’s been with the team all season and didn’t want to snub him
So will he be Marquis'd going forward?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
One differance
Westie didn’t bitch-up like Marquis did.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
IIRC, he didn't start bitching until he was dropped,
or am I wrong?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
There was one game early on in Sept that he just phoned in.
Didn’t pitch after that. iirc.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's a combination of a lot of things.
If Sanchez was healthy and lights-out, I think he’d be on the roster. But since he’s borderline, and CC is going on short rest, etc. they keep W-B.
Brewers load the bases w/ no outs, get only 1 run
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
Wow, Diamondbacks?
Batting Willie Bloomquist leadoff in the playoffs?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
ok, I'm desperate
I paid my 6 dollars to watch TBS but I can’t figure out how to get the regular feed.
Camera angles?? Help!
You can't get the regular feed.
It’s just the camera angles. With all their contracts, there’s no way TBS / TNT are going to let MLB sell their product as you would see it on TV.
by mattisnotfrench on Oct 1, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
that makes no sense
Worst case, they just include the commercials, and have direct feedback as to number of viewers reached. Why wouldn’t they want that market segment?
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Gameday audio still works.
I’m listening to Euck right now. Good stuff!
by mattisnotfrench on Oct 1, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder what you get if you use an international proxy w/ Postseason.tv.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm using a proxy with my regular ol' MLB regular season account
It works.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
Right. But for people that only bought Postseason.tv, I'm curious about what would happen.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but there's an international Postseason.tv package
that, I believe, gives you everything.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, but there's a separate playoff package for international customers for $19.99.
So I wonder if you get that with an int proxy via a US Postseason.tv package.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i can't find any other postseason.tv package
except this
which is just MLB.tv for $20
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/postseason/index.jsp?affiliateId=MLBTVREDIRECT
that's not what we're talking about
there are two different packages. we know how the one you purchased behaves
right. and it's the same for the international.
actual live feeds are on the international, but only archived for the national package. the camera angles aren’t the “feed” of the broadcast.
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
i wonder what percentage of postseason.tv sales
are people actually thinking they will be able to watch all the games and then being really disappointed to fund out what it really is
Rather high, I think.
They should call it “Postseason Extras” or something.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
TBS-France. tres amusant.
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David Freese is not @TortyCraig.
Which we already knew of course.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
david freese is not nearly smart enough to be torty
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It's a fake twitter account.
How smart does he have to be? Has he been posting solutions to physics problems when I wasn’t looking? If so, I guess we can safely assume TortyCraig isn’t one of our liberal arts majors. #yesterday’sthread
He has to be smart enough to post during games.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Psh. Ozzie Guillen figured that out...
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by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ozzie never had to leave the dugout.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
Gutsy, if he's doing it while in the field.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
what
he doesn’t “have to be” smart. i’m saying @tortycraig is witty, articulate, and clever. @dfreese23 is not.
TortyCraig Torty Craig
In response to Adron’s boast that he’d beat me in a race because he’s faster than a hare all I could do is chuckle at his rookie naïvité.
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
Although @dfreese23 is often hilarious.
Just in a different way.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
It's funny, but it's not THAT impossibly clever.
I mean, I don’t know that Freese is necessarily clever, but I don’t think he has a Rasmus reputation.
Don’t misunderstand me, I enjoy TortyCraig as much as the next VEBer, but I’m not entirely convinced it’s beyond Freese’s capabilities (though I am aware that it’s a VEBer).
it's coming from inside the blog.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
okay, so the weather looks beautiful there
why is the roof closed again?
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
Yeah, I don't know. It's in the mid 50s there.
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by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It's cold!
Close the roof!
Wimps.
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"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Hell, mid 50s is like Indian Summer for them.
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by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I thought too but why else would they close the roof.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
true, they would get frostbite otherwise
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
aw, the skip schumaker move only works for skip schumaker
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
New mugshot!!!
Now I’m ready for gametime. If this game goes bad then I will go back to first mugshot. Can’t take chances in October.
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 1, 2011 3:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't like that he got another DWI
but that cross-eyed stare makes me smile
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Parra played that flyball from Betancourt about as poorly as possible
should have been a double if he’d been playing it off the wall the whole way….
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
W/ no Patterson to make comments about does that mean Theriot gets doubled up or does Arthur Rhodes slide into that vacancy?
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 1, 2011 4:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hopefully that time will now be filled
with cheering Cardinals success.
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by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Hi.
Woke up at like 4 am this morning and got all my work done, so that I could watch the playoffs this evening.
Go…. I don’t know. Brewers, I guess. Even though we’d probably match up better against Arizona in a 7 game series.
After worrying so much about the Braves this whole month I'm now remembering how much I hate Milwaukee
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 1, 2011 4:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I just dislike Morgan.
I don’t have the intense dislike for the team as a whole like I do the Reds.
Yet, anyways.
Yep, the hate's just directed towards Morgan, and a little toward Hart.
There are a couple of players on the Brewers I like: Wolf, Counsell, Axford, Weeks…
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Braun is shocked by the Klement's Racing Sausages celebration ritual.
Unfortunately we are not allowed to show said ritual due to FCC regulations. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i was going to post pics of ugly players
but found this…http://thesportsriot.blogspot.com/2011_03_01_archive.html
because TLR
Help!
I don’t want to NE at this wedding!
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 4:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
one key over from BE.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
I think he's saying
he wants a shrubbery
"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski
He looks so thin there.
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by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
She likes that those are donuts instead of hamburgers or whatever nasty animal flesh other players might have.
(actually what she said)
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"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Freddie Prinzey Jr?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Anyone else concerned that Holliday, if he plays, would be in pain?
wonder if he would be better off getting the shot and lining up for the NLCS roster. But that’s pretty overconfident, isn’t it?
Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!
I guess if you compare Holliday coming off the bench to PH a few times
vs. whoever would replace him on the roster, which is better?
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by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Holliday vs. Chalmers off the bench?
I’ll take a Holliday only holding loosely onto the bat with his right hand.
Chambers is already on the roster.
So you’d be replacing him with Greene or Patterson, probably.
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by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Chambers, Chalmers, whatever.
But yeah, valid point. And I’d rather have Holliday than anyone, just in case he’s feeling well enough to play in later games of series.
I want to know why
he didn’t get a Coors and a shot
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw something earlier that said it would keep him out of this series.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought with those shots
it was 3 days of not playing. So if he would have gotten it on wednesday, he’d play today or tomorrow to be safe
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Strauss:
La Russa and Mozeliak devoted much of Friday’s workout to scrutinizing Holliday and Furcal, both of whom failed to appear in the team’s final two wins in Houston. Both were listed as questionable before the workout, but Furcal’s left hamstring and Holliday’s right hand passed muster. Furcal left the park believing he would be in today’s lineup. Holliday rejected a cortisone injection Thursday because it would almost certainly have made him unavailable for this series. He conceded Friday that he could be used in a reserve role for a game or two before migrating to the starting lineup.
Maybe the recovery time for a shot in the hand is longer?
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by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
well at least we have Craig
I’d be worried if our backup was Patterson
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If we didn't have Craig
Holliday would be playing.
And we get to yell
“Do It For Torty!” all game long.
/brightside
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by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, I saw that too.
I wonder how long the recovery time is though? Had they given him the shot Tuesday night after he reinjured the hand it may have been worth it for him to maybe just miss game one (or even come off the bench and PH) and then be available and healthy for the rest of the series.
Now if he goes out tonight and it gets worse after his first AB, he is going to miss the entire series and Patterson is forced back onto the team…
by mick311 on Oct 1, 2011 4:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He had the coors, just no shot
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 4:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
30 minutes omg
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the gods' names.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
TNT if the brewers game goes long
then to TBS. Otherwise TBS
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Postseason.tv is not the same as watching the game.
You get to choose from various fixed cameras.
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by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you can get it through MLB.tv
If you have an international proxy or some such thing. Someone else was talking about it somewhere in this thread.
Yes.
I wonder if MLB would be pissed if we put up a fanpost the lay all of this out? Everyone’s asking about it.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
if you search flimtotheflam
his fanposts on the subject are extraordinarily useful
Here is a link to my google+ profile.
well i'm sure you're all overjoyed
I will not be game-threading with y’all. relatives (with food) have emerged. maybe Sunday
don’t break the place
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Mmm. Food.
That outweighs the downside of relatives.
True - last weekend my latin relations gave me some tamales
I got burned – twice
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they're usually delicious, right?
these were the real deal, made by some little old abuelita in Guadalajara. Damn, they were hot.
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When's the gamethread get put up
I must make one post then leave it alone as that’s what I’ve been doing during our recent stretch run and what I did the night we clinched
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
15 minutes, if my calculations are correct.
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...

Here is a link to my google+ profile.
by all4tookie on Oct 1, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
rec'ed
but it said I flagged it…
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Oct 1, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm cool with it,as long as it doesn't go beyond that.
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Why is the outfield in the dark now?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski
brewers advantage at home
they’re messing with everything!
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions

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