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welcome to october. welcome to the playoffs.

it's here.

like christmas morning and easter and hannukkah and valentine's day all wrapped into one, but with baseball instead of stockings or candy or presents or depressing waves of loneliness and disappointment. instead, you'll be linked together to hundreds of thousands, millions of people all watching the same game, all pulling for the team just like you. 

people have observed that our culture has gotten more and more fractured, more and more compartmentalized over time. there used to be just three major television networks, so huge portions of the nation might be watching one show all at the same time (your correspondent embarrassingly recalls having televisions with a separate UHF dial, when television in st. louis was limited to ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, an independent channel 11 - dedicated at the time to showing old three stooges episodes, mostly - and religious programming on channel 24. he also recalls first watching some of the first programming on the local FOX station - then channel 30 - including the Tracy Ullman Show, which then featured a certain animated short).

with cable tv, DVDs, the internet, and a thousand other demands on the attention of the entertainment consumer, very rarely does any program capture the attention of most of everybody. the baseball playoffs, like the NFL playoffs and a handful of other sports programs, have the rare feature of being something almost everyone watches. 

not that having everybody watching the same program at the same time is necessarily a great thing; your correspondent also recalls tuning in with 83 million people to find out who shot J.R. (yes, virginia, there was a pop culture antecedent to "who shot mr. burns?"). i'm not sure that shared crap television uplifted our culture or made us forget our differences. it was just different, not necessarily better.

Star-divide

so, have you SEEN the roster for the playoffs? are you as OUTRAGED as i am? what were they thinking?

really, ANGEL HERNANDEZ? what the hell?

oh, yeah, i meant the UMPIRE rosters. apparently, we get saddled with angel hernandez in the NLDS. we miss the honor of having joe west and the rest of his staff (they'll be embarrassing themselves in the MIL-ARZ series), but this is sort of like holding the world championships of speedboating and inviting joseph hazelwood - apparently it's 1980's references day at VEB - to act as grand marshal. apparently, being literally the worst umpire in all of major league baseball gets you an invite to the post-season. 

this does not seem like a sign that a serious quality control program is arriving any time soon for MLB. depressing.

the cardinal roster -  based on the details leaked so far - seems more or less inoffensive. i was pleased to see kyle mcclellan not invited, while frequent doghouse inhabitant mitch boggs got the call -- this probably also means kyle has played his last game as a cardinal, which is good news as well. i am disappointed that arthur rhodes likely goes into the postseason, since he's simply useless. eduardo sanchez, notwithstanding his limited exposure this fall, looks like dynamite.

on the position player side, derrick goold just tweeted that chambers - as well as furcal and holliday - are on the roster. hopefully, this means that corey patterson and kyle mcclellan can keep each other company. i would expect holliday not to start today, and for allen craig (who now is seen in the company of milk cartons only when pouring his breakfast cereal) to start in LF. 

the rotation looks like kyle lohse (tonight), carpenter, jaime, lohse (if necessary), carpenter (if necessary).

now, the question of the week: can we beat them?

yes, we can.

it will be tough to beat a team whose rotation goes halladay, lee, hamels. but we've already beaten them this season. more importantly, the aging phillies lineup - while not a pushover in any sense - is not what it once was. the phillies actually have the worst team wOBA of any team in the postseason and have scored fewer runs than any postseason team other than the rays. with age and injury afflicting chase utley and jimmy rollins, the phillies also have a far more porous defense (not that we can criticize anyone: the only postseason defense worse than philadelphia is, uh, us) than they did three or four years ago.

know your phillies

shane victorino is the most valuable phillie.

i'm going to let that sink in.

shane victorino is the most valuable phillie. always a solid contact hitter and a decent defender in the outfield, this pint-sized chap discovered some power this year, breaking the .200 ISO barrier for the first time. right now, he's the best hitter on the team.

chase utley, limited to 103 games by injury, is still a fantastic second baseman. i'm not sure how many whole seasons of st. louis second basemen you would have to stack on top of each other to get the 3.9 wins utley was worth in his abbreviated season, but it would probably take you back to 2008 or 2009. still a good defender, his injuries have kept him from a good year at the plate, even when healthy enough to take the field. i would take his uncharacteristic .344 wOBA from our second basemen any time.

jimmy rollins is still a good shortstop, but not a star. relatively healthy, he's just in an age-related relative decline. of course his relative decline is a 3.8 win season, which i would take from our . . . .well, you get the picture.

i will, however, take yadier molina over carlos ruiz, though chooch is not a bad option at catcher at all. just a touch under three wins with the bat.

placido polanco has adapted extremely well to his third base conversion, remaining an elite defender if a subpar hitter. polanco is giving zimmerman a run for his money for best defender at third in the NL.

hunter pence is a lucky sumbitch. he's done nothing but hit in philadelphia, to the tune of a .348 BABIP. i have a hard time buying into his 2011 as anything but luck since he's only once had a wOBA better than .360 in his career. i thought the astros sold high on him, and i am ready for him to start regressing. yup, any day now would be just fine . . . .

ryan howard has a .354 wOBA at first base (which ties him for 13th best offensive performance among first basemen) and has been worth 1.6 wins this season. someone will still vote for him as MVP.

the travesty in the outfield this year has been raul ibanez. the aging slugger signed to a 3 year deal has been worth -1.3 wins, hitting a descalso-esque .306 wOBA, with atrocious defense. the more we see of him the better.

the phils stabilized the non-victorino parts of the outfield somewhat by trading for pence, but have struggled to fill the other corner. a mix of ben francisco, john mayberry, and the now-injured domonic brown have filled in. mayberry has looked pretty good in limited exposure. 

there are a lot of solid players - assuming they stay healthy - but, other than victorino, no huge stars. 

the rotation is the best in baseball - maybe one of the best there's ever been. that's the scary end of the 2011 phillies. if some balls fall our way, though, the cardinals' pretty solid offense could hang a few runs even on the hand full of aces the phillies have dealt themselves.

in any event, we're going to see some great baseball.

[edit: official roster information up - 

correction to prior statements - it appears they will aim at having westbrook or (more likely) jackson start game 4, rather than lohse again. along with starting pitchers carpenter, lohse, and garcia, the NLDS roster includes the following:

Adron Chambers was the chief beneficiary of the team's roster composition, and he'll stick as a pinch-runner, defensive replacement and super-sub for the Cardinals. The other 13 hitters will be: Yadier Molina, Gerald Laird, Albert Pujols, Skip Schumaker, Furcal, David Freese, Nick Punto, Daniel Descalso, Ryan Theriot, Holliday, Jon Jay, Lance Berkman and Allen Craig.

Right-handers Jason Motte, Fernando Salas, Octavio Dotel and Mitchell Boggs will be joined by lefties Marc Rzepczynski and Arthur Rhodes in the bullpen. Edwin Jackson and Jake Westbrook, who are not starting in the first three games, will be available in relief at least for Games 1-2.

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I concur.

WOOOOOOOOO!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 1, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

woot woot!

/yes, I watched American Juggalo yesterday. It is, at once, the most disturbing and yet mesmerizing thing I’ve ever seen.

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by mattyp on Oct 1, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed. Indeed.

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it is.

Texas A&M and Arkansas are playing in Cowboys Stadium.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're not scaremongering

this is really happening, happening….

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

"developing."

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

mobile's chirping.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Oct 1, 2011 12:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I can top (or bottom, as it were) your early TV availabilty

as a young boy I grew up with TWO channels. We didn’t get the ABC affiliate until 1960.
And we watched on a screen that was about 12" diagonal.

by the Tewk on Oct 1, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

None of this makes sense to me

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by mysterui on Oct 1, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

barefoot

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by d-dee on Oct 1, 2011 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

and the tv was in a cabinet the size of a chest of drawers

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Ours would turn on automatically when you open the wooden roller doors

to the tv screen. It was quite fancy for its day. He he.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Oct 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had two channels until I was about 12 or so.

No ABC affiliate in my part of MT until 88 or so, I think.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

most disturbing poster-avatar mix ever.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

My goal is to drive him slowly insane.

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by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

you are such an ass

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I've been waiting for this

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that it's this cute little green check box.

Like “RiverRat has been banned yay!”

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa whoa whoa now

Where did this game from?!

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by mysterui on Oct 1, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

got milk – check
called plumber – check
paid rent – check
banned riverrat – check

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

how long you gonna let him twist in the wind?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm back, for now.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

wth is happening, i don't want you to be banned

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by d-dee on Oct 1, 2011 3:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

tis all a joke,

mostly.

I think.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pay attention to the details Nick.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

It took me a second too.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

check the avatars.

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

You would never mock him. EVER.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly not in this thread.

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

why thank you.

that’s rather kind.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh! Nice avatar!

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is so kind.

I should strive to be more like a fink.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Want me to send you some nice Buddhist books?

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I'm going to just reread The Tao of Pooh.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Outstanding!

The Te of Piglet was such a disappointment.

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to get this.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

youre going to get banned too

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

he can bite my shiny metal ass.

 Asshattery: it’s an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

 by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 12:01 AM EDT upreplyactions
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he will. it’ll hurt

“I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv” – Chris Carpenter
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 by d-dee on Oct 1, 2011 12:04 AM EDT upreplyactions

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't you rain on my postseason parade!

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEYYYYYYYYY WORLD!

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too late

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

dammit

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE KEEP DOING THIS? !?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Oct 1, 2011 12:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Y2S started it

He mentioned Rains.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a verb you fool

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Oh, right.

/stupidliberalartsdegree.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahahaha

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY I OUGHTA... Tell Mojo!

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Did I mention I’m holding a job doing cost accounting and profit analysis with a history degree?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's IMPOSSIBLE!

Wait, did you got to a school that’s ranked in the top 15 in accounting?

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

That kinda goes with what my brother John always said.

“It didn’t matter if you had a degree in masturbation and self-abuse as long as you had the piece of paper.”

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

magna cum laude?

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

well, summa cum laude anyway

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I had to type this after I got done laughing at yours.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

500 days of summa?

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

"This is the 44 magna.

The most powerful cum laude in the world, and would blow your head clean off. So you gotta ask yourself a question ‘Do I feel lucky?’. Well, do ya….punk?"

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It could be worse.

They could be posting Straussface.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 1, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, check out Cusumano.

Guy is making everyone look bad.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

he looks like a made man

/been watching mobster flicks

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just wishes

He was watching Desmet-Vianney instead.

by Merry CRasmus on Oct 1, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

strauss looks like he hasn't moved his bowels in a week.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was thinking more like an asshole with hemorrhoids.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

according to sources familiar with the situation
he hasn’t.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 1, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a family blog.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

can someone cut that down to just strauss?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Oct 1, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know, the contrast is high enough that you could use a good cut-out tool

and stick that in other pictures.

not that I would condone such a thing.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm currently making jerky

all will be well in the baseball world. I’ll be sure to offer some up to Torty.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't think tortoises are into that

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a snapping turtle that would like a word...

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or a hand.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, that's a turtle. not a tortoise

and what’s the size on your snapping turtle?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

About this size.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

those things are badass

not sure about ginger santa

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That looks about the size of the one in our pond.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw tom, thank for this very informative writeup

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Oct 1, 2011 12:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

sounds about right.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

ditto

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Phillies' roster kind of stinks once you get past the big three starters...

Carlos Ruiz®
Brian Schneider (L)
Ryan Howard (L)
Chase Utley (L)
Placido Polanco®
Jimmy Rollins (S)
Ross Gload (L)
Wilson Valdez®
Michael Martinez (S)
Raul Ibanez (L)
Shane Victorino (S)
Hunter Pence®
John Mayberry Jr.®
Ben Francisco®

Roy Halladay (RHP)
Cliff Lee (LHP)
Cole Hamels (LHP)
Roy Oswalt (RHP)
Vance Worley (RHP)
Ryan Madson (RHP)
Antonio Bastardo (LHP)
Mike Stutes (RHP)
Brad Lidge (RHP)
Kyle Kendrick (RHP)
Joe Blanton (RHP)

The bench and bullpen are awful.

by guayzimi on Oct 1, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

At least Carlos Ruiz is protecting his name!

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by SheckieZx on Oct 1, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

"stinks" is too strong a word. they have a ton of players who are average or better, but few stars.

chooch, utley, rollins, polanco, victorino, pence, and mayberry are all above average for the year. howard and ibanez are disappointing. but, yes, if utley or rollins were lost to injury, the step down to valdez (not valdes) is pretty substantial.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more playing time Ibañez receives over Mayberry, the better.

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by bgh on Oct 1, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

am I losing it

or didn’t Mayberry play 1st against the Cards in the recent 4-gamer in place of Howard vs. lefties?

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes he did.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

*vs Garcia

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, the bullpen's awfulness will be mitigated by having oswalt and/or worley in it.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worley and Madson...

are the only solid bullpen arms… Every other guy is a good opportunity to score runs.

by guayzimi on Oct 1, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah yes, I remember Channel 11

Was on Captain 11’s Showboat in the early 60’s, for a birthday party. They had us sitting on a tiered seating platform. I was on the top row, and at one point, while Captain 11 was talking to the camera, it panned to us, just as I lost my balance and fell off the back. Took a month before I stopped being kidded about that by my fellow third-graders.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 1, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha!

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by spants on Oct 1, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

any suggestions

on how us fans without cable television can be a part of the shared cultural moment of watching the mlb playoffs? each year i hope mlb will give us some sort of mlb.tv option for the playoffs,but we keep getting stuck with that dumb single-camera nonsense. i have as yet been unable to find any, ahem, alternative methods.

i suspect mike shannon and john rooney are in my future…

by dpmay on Oct 1, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

ok...

wedding at 3pm. Hopefully short
Game starts at 4pm.
reception is at 5pm. Hang out for a few minutes and then sneak to the bar…
out of there by 5:45 to catch the end
Drag out the commerical breaks TBS

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by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm at work till 5,

two hours after game start. I either listen on my phone, or go all media blackout and watch it on the dvr. I’m really afraid that TBS is going to hose us all, and cut to the Yankees game.

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by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

not in st. louis

not without starting a two city riot.

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by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Cards/Phills are still playing

when the Yankees game starts, will they move it TNT? I seem to remember that happening in the past.

by Betagal on Oct 1, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last night they showed that the game following STL-PHI was on TNT

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by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

What

Has the game been moved again?

TV has been saying that the Yankees play early and the Cards game was 7:whatever pm.

by sdrone on Oct 1, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy Crap!

Just now heard that Adron is on instead of Patterson. How did they pull this off, since Adron wasn’t on the roster on Aug.31? I haven’t seen a Cardinals roster, is Punto on? Help, help, I’m being repressed.!

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 1, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

It's pretty easy to get around that rule...

you can use guys on the 40 man to replace any other injured player.

by guayzimi on Oct 1, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's an article from stlcardinals.com

It lists all the players.

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John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Oct 1, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

does this mean
Mozeliak said there is little concern that Holliday could significantly aggravate the injury. Instead, it is a matter of pain tolerance. Holliday did not receive an anti-inflammatory shot in his hand, because it likely would have sidelined him for long enough that he’d have been left off the roster.

That he just drank a beer and no shot? Or no beer at all?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks - edited OP to include the official roster reports.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

because TLR

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punto on, Chambers a DL replacement for Wainwright

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by cardsfan59 on Oct 1, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

sanchez probably should have made it over westbrook

and k-mac probably deserved it over rhodes.

other than that, i’m quite happy with roster.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I can see Westy on the roster if they make it to the second round,

but in the short series, I’d prefer to have the shutdown closer.

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by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

sanchez would have absolutely not been the closer....

but he would have been a hell of a 7th/8th/situational righty.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, closer wasn't the right word.

just shut down righty.

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by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

no corey patterson

this is the best we could’ve hoped for

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am really happy McClellan was left off.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 1, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Say it with me, folks:

WORK THE COUNTS. our best bet every night will be to get to their pen.

Do it for Torty.
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by Oedipa Maas on Oct 1, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

The Twitters were hyping an article about that this morning.

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by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found it.

Goold’s article

“The big key is against all of these guys, you have to be ready to hit,” McGwire said. "When they throw their pitches they don’t miss by much. When you’re ready to hit, and you stay in your (zone), you take those bastard pitches — that’s what we call them — and you do work the count. We’ve done a good job all year against them of working the count, getting that pitch count up, and that will be our plan.
“That’s the thing I’ll be talking about (today).”

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fire McGwire!

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big Mac for president!

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

and this is why they were successful all year long.

they got to the bullpen. all year long. there’s no reason to think this won’t continue.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

stop it now

or i’ll actually get excited rather than just being content that the team has a post-season appearance.

Do it for Torty.
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by Oedipa Maas on Oct 1, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

this year's team has been excellent at grinding down starters and getting into bullpens

it’s the only way to beat a team like this….gotta neutralize their starters with lots of 10-pitch ABs.

Also—P/PA:

Freese 4.02
Lego 3.92
Rasmus 3.88
Riot 3.83
[lg avg 3.79]
Berk 3.78
AP 3.65
Schu 3.65
DD 3.62
Jay 3.62
Yadi 3.47 (<—this is the one I’m surprised by)

That might be Theriot’s most important skill, really.

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet Theriot will beat that mark in the playoffs if he gets significant AB's.

He was over 4 for much of the season until his massive slump, and it seems like he has fixed his problem.

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it would make sense for power hitters to see fewer P/PA on avg

1) they’re going to get greenlighted on the first pitch more often than a punch & judy hitter, and
2) as we learned in 1998, the first pitch is often the only strike (or only fastball, anyway) that a power hitter will see in his entire PA

I’m kind of bummed to see Pujols that far down, though.

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I don't know. We'd need to look at larger sample size.

I suspect good power hitters are highest on the list due to careful pitching.

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

the ones that take walks, anyway

I’m trying to come up with a reason why Holliday would be way above avg, Berkman right at it, and Pujols so far down. None of the three of them strike out a lot, so that’s not it. I dunno. I wonder how much of it is just random variation, like BABIP.

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think career-wise both Pujols and Berk are vg.

Well, no. Pujols is around average. Hm….

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crap, I didn't even see Holliday was that high

Well, now I’m really confused. I thought the power combined with contact rate explained it. Now idk.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

to find it again

go to B-R; get the Cards 2011 page up; under the Batting tab, click More Stats, and scroll way down.

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’m confused too…..obviously there’s a skill component and a luck component to this stat, but I don’t know what the ratio is. Maybe it’s mostly skill and the different numbers reflect different strategies. Pujols was definitely swinging at everything early on, and anecodtally he seemed more patient in the 2nd half.

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It gets weirder, check out first pitch swings

Holliday 33%
Berk 37%
Pujols 18%

What? Pujols first pitch swing the LEAST and still sees the fewest pitches?

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

see ooz, contact, poor

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by sportsman on Oct 1, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Berk swings at a lot of first pitches

He put the first pitch in play 94 times this year, and went .435/.426/.772 on those pitches.

Ignore those, and his P/PA goes up to 4.32.

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by SleepyCA on Oct 1, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

as a comparison
name   SW1st  PAtotal  %SW1st
Yadi	92	518	18%
Berkman	94	587	16%
Rasmus	82	526	16%
Schu	59	400	15%
Lego	62	511	12%
Jay	61	503	12%
Theriot	54	483	11%
Freese	32	363	9%
Pujols	56	651	9%

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by SleepyCA on Oct 1, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

Punto 4.20
Craig 3.90
Furcal 3.74
Laird 3.71

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

BASTARD PITCHES!!!

i feel a new meme coming on.

“Westbrook throwing nothing but bastard pitches tonight”
“Craig smoked that bastard!”

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

gotta rec

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, this is annoying, can't find PA/PITCH data on baseballreference or

fangraphs, even though baseballreference has team numbers. You would think that someone would make it easily accessible seeing that folks have done articles on it. See hardballtimes or billjamesonline. But no. When are they going to provide more rate stats? It doesn’t make sense to me that many of these stats do not consider exposure. Argh.

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by totalloser on Oct 1, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's there

here

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you my good sir. Pit/PA data is surprising.

Pit/PA
Nick Punto 4.21
David Freese 4.02
Adron Chambers* 4
Tyler Greene 3.95
Matt Holliday 3.92
Allen Craig 3.9
Ryan Theriot 3.83
League Average 3.79
Lance Berkman# 3.78
Rafael Furcal# 3.74
Gerald Laird 3.71
Albert Pujols 3.65
Skip Schumaker* 3.65
Daniel Descalso* 3.62
Jon Jay* 3.62
Yadier Molina 3.47
Corey Patterson* 3.11
Team Total 3.74

Punto at the top was no surprise at all. But I didn’t know Greene was above league average. I thought Berk would be higher. Albert has been very impatient this year. And no surprise to anyone, Patterson is dead last.

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by totalloser on Oct 1, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, Agreed. I was not surprised because of inference. But even the times that

I’ve watched him (recalling the sample only), I thought he was swinging freely. I think he really progressed throughout this year, but that would entail tracking the per game data.

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by totalloser on Oct 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

D'oh that's already been posted

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by totalloser on Oct 1, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if that gets you anywhere...

with Halladay and Lee. You just end up in a hole… They don’t walk anyone.

by guayzimi on Oct 1, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

except for that one time

when we forced Lee to walk six.

Actually, it’s more of Don’t swing at balls, are bad pitches early in the count.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

not at all

but don’t make it easy by swing early at bad pitches

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Halladay is quoting Bill Shakespeare
‘“I came here to bury Caesar, not praise him,” Halladay said. "I think it’s true. We’re all aware of how good the team is. We obviously have respect for what they’ve done and how they’ve played, but you have to be confident going in that you’re going to be able to beat them."

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

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by SheckieZx on Oct 1, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

it's really too bad that we don't get a Carp-Doc match-up

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

made for the ages

heads might explode from their stares

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

the rotation looks like kyle lohse (tonight), carpenter, jaime, lohse (if necessary), carpenter (if necessary).

that would be short rest for games 2, 4, and 5.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like they'll take westbrook or jackson in game 4. sorry for the confusion.

game 5 should be full rest for carp.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough.

and i totally did my math wrong. yay extra travel day for game 5! they used to not do that…

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure Jackson starts game 4

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by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO COREY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

lineup...

furcal
craig, 9
pujols
berkman, 7
freese
molina
schumaker
jay
lohse

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

credit

it’s weird seeing jay bath 8th against a righty…

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

works for me.

I don’t like Jay batting 8th instead of schumaker, but you gotta let Tony be Tony, I guess.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

since the all start break skip is

.306 / .357 / .369 / .727

While Jon jay is

.290 / .336 / .411 / .747

I still like Jay, but yeah, got to let Tony be Tony

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by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

phillies

Rollins SS, Utley 2B, Pence RF, Howard 1B, Victorino CF, Ibanez LF, Polanco 3B, Ruiz C, Halladay P

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by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 1, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

hooray for ibanez!

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

they've been worse than normal - sucked is a strong word. they're both better than average hitters, and better

than we’ll likely see from either SS or 2B on our side.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

position by position (offense only)

catcher: cardinals
first base: cardinals
second base: phillies
third base: push
shortstop: phillies
left field: cardinals (holy shit ibanez has BLOWN this year)
center field: phillies
right field: push

3 phillies, 3 cardinals, 2 pushes

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess i should have made that clear....

i’m comparing berkman to pence and craig to ibanez.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh i see

craig in rf.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

pence-berkman.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know what the WAR numbers say

but i take berkman over victorino every day of the week

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn.

i was giving you the benefit of the doubt. now you are even more wrong

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone else chuckle at hunter pence being in the albert pujols slot?

i mean, that seems silly

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's where he hit in Houston too.

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by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

but it makes more sense in that lineup

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason, I thought their lineup was way better.

I’m underwhelmed by that..

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 1, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOOOOOOO

ADRON OF PATTERSON

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by scoot on Oct 1, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

wait, i thought they pushed today's game to an evening slot?

the cards site says it’s a 4pm game still.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

what he said.

i made the same mistake as tom when i first say that tweet. didn’t notice the word “sunday”

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 1, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok. gamethread rescheduled.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep.

its still not the perfect roster, but its better than I thought it’d be

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sanchez over Westbrook

is actually the only tweak I’d make. I’d like to find a spot for Greene, but I guess Chambers is going to be handling Greene’s base running duties and that helped force Patterson off, so I’ll live with it.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree.

i dislike rhodes, but the phillies have a lot of lefties. it makes sense to have him, so long as HE ONLY EVER PITCHES TO LEFTIES

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really. he's worse at pitching to lefties than our right-handed pitchers are.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

heh

then never mind.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is true.

also he’s a dinosaur. Watching the FSN feed of the Cards watching the ATL/PHI game, I couldn’t figure out who the old guy in the chair was. Turned out to be Rhodes. Looked like he was about 54 years old with a big grandpa gut.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's not old,

just UNDEAD.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weather may have dictated that.

With rain in the forecast, it may make sense to have another starter available in case a game gets suspended early, as happened last night in NY.

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by StanTheManFan on Oct 1, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want Greene in it.

Waste of a spot, Tony would never play him.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Oct 1, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i just have regular mlb.tv (no postseason package)

can i still use a proxy to watch the games live?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

cool i have premium

stuck at work this morning, want to watch the dbacks – which i think starts soon

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wish he was drinking an orange slice

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was thinking while watching it

that today would have been a good day for a kyle lohse-starring play in one act

by prophetjohn on Oct 1, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

has lohse ever pitched in the post season?

he was hurt in 09 right?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh oh...

…just saw a Hass Avocado commercial

I’M F*CKIN PISSED OFF NOW

by vexedtechie on Oct 1, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Check the frontpage of the mothership

They had a pic of Berkman and Holliday during the workout yesterday. Holliday was practicing something.

(Also, this year it’s Avocados of Mexico.)

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by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

well they call it avocados from mexico, now

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

has anyone seen hazel lately?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

hazel was in the thread . . . yesterday, i think?

check his profile for last comments.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, no Corey Patterson!!!

Who laughs last now, robot?!

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by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

everybody but the Phillies

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arizona-Milwaukee on now.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

ST feed

is at this link

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

aw, post season tv is only 5.99

i might just buy it. but i wonder if i will get blacked out of the dbacks game

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

IHB!

tell us about Arizona

i find myself under-educated, and i don’t want to get all my info from the “announcers”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

the team, I mean.

we know about the haboobs.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

its like albert pujols and hte seven dwarfs

only its justin upton. ian kennedy is sneaky good

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this playoffs double the upton?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Montero pretty good

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by spants on Oct 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

how bad are they missing Drew?

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty bad apparently...

Willie Bloomquist is playing. Also, Joe Saunders is starting game 3 instead of Dan Haren. What is it about Dan Haren that causes teams to get rid of him for left handed crap?

by guayzimi on Oct 1, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

it didn't turn out to be as bad as we all thought it would be

i mean, they lost probably their second-best position player and still finished with 94 wins. but i suspect the loss of buster posey helped. but i think the dbacks made some deals they wouldn’t have made if drew had been healthy. like i think aaron hill is a good pickup over kelly johnson

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah i remember that from last year.

proxy it is.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it raining in Milwaukee?

Why is the roof closed?

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Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

12 across, Unfair Advantage

hmmmm.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

do I want the Diamond backs to because I hate the brewers

or do i want the brewers to win for a Cardinals – Brewers match up

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

the correct answer is arizona because.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

because then i get to see some games!

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the cardinals can get past philly,

bring on the Brewers. But i don’t want Milwaukee advancing if the Cards don’t. Nyjer has to eat those goddamn words by watching the cardinals still playing after mil has been eliminated.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

DBs

I don’t want to see Greinke/Marcum/Gallardo again this year if we can help it. Also, I have this irrational fear that Narveson would pitch Game 4 and throw a no-hitter.

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

YIKES

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

that was unwise

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

that wasn’t even close.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice call, Matt Williams.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Victor Rojas and Joe Simpson.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

d'oh!
Now, before you go to any trouble, please note that the national broadcast on ESPN Radio will feature none other than Joe Morgan. Alas, Bote’s has yet to offer any solutions to that problem.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that still true?

That piece is from last year. I thought they’d severed all ties by now.

by Pegasus on Oct 1, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh..i have no idea

didn’t realize it was old, just kinda skimmed through

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

are these the backups for the nats and marlins games?

by prophetjohn on Oct 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Went to Uecker.

I actually think he’s a little overrated, but might be interesting with his boys in the postseason.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

"No badges available for this game."

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

WAT

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any ideas as to the time of Tuesday's game?

I have tickets and I don’t want to have to call in sick to work…

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Oct 1, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

no guarantee

but they’re listed as playing the third of four games, so i’m assuming it follows todays time format

by prophetjohn on Oct 1, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would there be a later game than a 7 game?

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go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Oct 1, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i doubt it

tomorrow’s game starts at 7:30, but that’s only because of the yankees makeup game and trying to keep games from overlapping

by prophetjohn on Oct 1, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I won't be around tonight because I'm going downtown again tonight...

But this time to watch the Tigers play V-Tech. I’m hoping Tiger Town Tavern has at least one TV playing the Cards game.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

WAT
@dgoold
Derrick Goold
La Russa said final roster spot came down to Greene or Chambers. Left unsaid was reason: speed, speed, speed. #STLcards #Cardinals

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

You too

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by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

grrrrrrr

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by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

My aspergers is on fire

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by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

3) related to your screenname

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, what?

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure?

My read on it was that the last roster spot was reserved for someone with speed — either Chambers or Greene.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm confused b/c despite Goold's tweet, it seems as if

Chambers was taken over Patterson, not Greene. Greene is mostly an IF.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

neither would see much playing time

and Tony wouldn’t be shy about putting Greene in the OF

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

still though

it suggests that Tony wasn’t ever really considering Patterson, which is awesome

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

why should he consider patterson though?

I mean, patterson really doesn’t have any skills that scream “one of Tony’s guys.”

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

only Proven Veteranness

although I guess at this point we all should be aware that the stuff about Tony & vets is a little overblown.

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by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will always rec that

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Y'all are ruining AZ's playoffs!

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love banning people

but the game threads are going to be just me talking to myself.

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by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

But don't forget how much fun you are

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by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

I know

and it’s not like there aren’t enough voices in my head to talk to

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by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

now, if you really want to mess with azru, you should all take bender avatars, and then say a bunch of things he'd

never say.

“why isn’t corey patterson starting?”
“that ryan howard sure knows how to hit homers. wish he played for us.”

then azru will think that somehow he’s said these things.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

#Gamethread tactics

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured it was to get OF/IF balance

Do people really not see that Greene is successful 88% on steal attempts and Chambers is 64%? That’s just steals of course, but Greene is a good all around runner too.

I’m not against Chambers getting it, far better than Patterson, but the reasoning is disturbing.

by Merry CRasmus on Oct 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops, forgot to add that it's obv. a sss

But still interesting to note — does anyone know of a stat baserunning stat with a larger sample size from the minors?

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously tyler greene is awesome but

i support having chambers over him, if it could only be one or the other, because chambers can actually play CF. gob forbid something happens to jay, then we have allen craig or skip schumaker starting in CF in the freaking playoffs

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

if something happens to Jay

Patterson comes up.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOOOoooooo

but i mean, like jay gets injured during a game

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

or injured for only one game or something

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

what

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i don't know what you mean.

you don’t see the logical reason for having chambers over greene??

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mentioned the possibility of Jay getting hurt

Then Evilfrog says Patterson comes up…I mis-assigned that comment to you in my mind as the sub-thread kept going.

Apologies

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 1, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

no worries. i probably just jinxed the whole damn thing anyway.

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I do too

I am pleased with the playoff roster. No gripes really. I just don’t get how speed, speed, speed is the criteria that causes you to side with Chambers over Greene. That’s all.

by Merry CRasmus on Oct 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh i read that differently

the last spot went to someone with speed, not that chambers was chosen over greene because of his speed

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't believe that

But it would be pointless to argue since I haven’t seen them line up in a 40 yard sprint. I’d rather have Chambers because I don’t know where Holliday is at, and you might want the defensive replacement.

by Merry CRasmus on Oct 1, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

tlr picks less experienced player only marginally faster

tg has the house to himself

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 1, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

not me

because i won’t be able to hear Rick Horton pronounce his name “the correct way” every time there’s a shot of him.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bah

there are too many me’s in this thread

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by azruavatar on Oct 1, 2011 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Random picture time

I found this buried in my cardinals pictures folder….forgot I made it.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

FREE AT LAST!!!!

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by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

I informed VEB that I was feeling feisty yesterday.

And then I went out last night and made friends with some Yankees fans at the bar so I am still feeling feisty.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were very cute.

And funny.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought about a candlelight vigil, but there's a burn ban down here.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too many goo sports on TV today.

There was no way I was leaving my TV.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOO GOOD*

Dang it!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

aww crap

I just realized I may be forced to get a new avatar in a couple months

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

nah. i'm still rocking mine

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

but yours is relevent to the name, though.

Gonna have to back to rockin’ the ’89 topps Todd Burns card I guess

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Oct 1, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck
Joel Sherman
I am shocked, but in last 36 hrs every exec talk to says believe #Redsox will give permssion and Theo will go to #Cubs to be GM

by prophetjohn on Oct 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the right move for him...

if he wins a WS in Chicago he punches his ticket to the HOF.

Things just got serious in the NL Central – thank god for two WCs.

by guayzimi on Oct 1, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is he not already in the HOF?

Ends Red Sox curse, I’m guessing he’s also youngest GM to win WS, won 2 WS with them, they’re now perennial postseason threats even in the toughest division in baseball.

You could argue this makes him inner circle, or Branch Rickey status, I guess, but I think he’s already HOF.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what I was thinking

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

looking at this list http://www.baseball-almanac.com/hof/hofmem.shtml there aren’t many executives, and only like two are from the last few decades. I think you gotta be transcendent to get in as a GM.

by guayzimi on Oct 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I counted 11 since 1990

But I think 4 were from the Negro Leagues, and at least were a commissioner or owner, just without looking them up.

So I guess that leaves 5 or fewer elected since 1990, and without looking up when they were active. Idk, I’d put Epstein in that company, but I see your point.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh

I’m not gonna panic til it’s official….and even then the Cubs’ entire organization is all jacked up right now. It’s not like they’d turn into a juggernaut overnight.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea it would take a few years.

Do they even have anything to build around? Starlin Castro is good, but he’s not really a cornerstone.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

To sell high?

Or just because he’ll be a FA by the time the team is ready to compete?

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose both...

mostly he’s just hugely overrated. I believe the guy lead the league in outs made and error this year… not that errors are the go to stat, but he seems pretty bad defensively.

by guayzimi on Oct 1, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

His defense is pretty lousy according to UZR.

but he’s still 21. I don’t think he’ll get better, but I would be nervous about skill erosion the farther he gets from 25 or so. Until then, he seems like a useful piece.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

does he do it, and then hire tito?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 1, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

bets on who will score first in this game?

i’m picking dbacks right now

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm hoping it's a really ugly game/series

And the SP and Bullpen both get beat up and lot’s of errors

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Oct 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy shit

broken bat HR

that’s some amaury marti shit right there

by prophetjohn on Oct 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone know if its raining in Philly?

I doubt they get this game in

1.14.10, the day I went green.

by njnick on Oct 1, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Based on that - I would say yes

but I in NYC it is pouring and my dad who lives about 45 min from Philly says its pouring there too.

1.14.10, the day I went green.

by njnick on Oct 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

it doesnt look like its supposed to rain in philly until late tonight

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find it's just easier to blame ESPN for everything

Global Warming – FESPN
Terrorists – FESPN
Corey Patterson – FESPN

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR - FESPN

NBA – FESPN
Miguel Batista’s shutout – FESPN
Khomeini – FESPN

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by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

FKOMU

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the reasoning on Westbrook>Sanchez?

Sanchez still too much of an unknown?

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"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

i assume sanchez is too much of a health risk.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only for an injury.

Also, can someone explain how they managed to magic away Corey Patterson?

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

everybody knows you have to have a long man in the playoffs

nah actually i bet the reasoning is just because he’s been with the team all season and didn’t want to snub him

by prophetjohn on Oct 1, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

So will he be Marquis'd going forward?

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"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

One differance

Westie didn’t bitch-up like Marquis did.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

IIRC, he didn't start bitching until he was dropped,

or am I wrong?

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"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was one game early on in Sept that he just phoned in.

Didn’t pitch after that. iirc.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's a combination of a lot of things.

If Sanchez was healthy and lights-out, I think he’d be on the roster. But since he’s borderline, and CC is going on short rest, etc. they keep W-B.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brewers load the bases w/ no outs, get only 1 run

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

7 pitch inning

nice to see the dbacks wearin him down

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, Diamondbacks?

Batting Willie Bloomquist leadoff in the playoffs?

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"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky

by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, I'm desperate

I paid my 6 dollars to watch TBS but I can’t figure out how to get the regular feed.
Camera angles?? Help!

by the Tewk on Oct 1, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

You can't get the regular feed.

It’s just the camera angles. With all their contracts, there’s no way TBS / TNT are going to let MLB sell their product as you would see it on TV.

by mattisnotfrench on Oct 1, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

that makes no sense

Worst case, they just include the commercials, and have direct feedback as to number of viewers reached. Why wouldn’t they want that market segment?

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Oct 1, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

worth a shot

when it asks you if you’re in the US or international, click the international button

by prophetjohn on Oct 1, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's not what we're talking about

there are two different packages. we know how the one you purchased behaves

by prophetjohn on Oct 1, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

right. and it's the same for the international.

actual live feeds are on the international, but only archived for the national package. the camera angles aren’t the “feed” of the broadcast.

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 1, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wonder what percentage of postseason.tv sales

are people actually thinking they will be able to watch all the games and then being really disappointed to fund out what it really is

by prophetjohn on Oct 1, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rather high, I think.

They should call it “Postseason Extras” or something.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

TBS-France. tres amusant.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Freese is not @TortyCraig.

Which we already knew of course.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

david freese is not nearly smart enough to be torty

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a fake twitter account.

How smart does he have to be? Has he been posting solutions to physics problems when I wasn’t looking? If so, I guess we can safely assume TortyCraig isn’t one of our liberal arts majors. #yesterday’sthread

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has to be smart enough to post during games.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ozzie never had to leave the dugout.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gutsy, if he's doing it while in the field.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

what

he doesn’t “have to be” smart. i’m saying @tortycraig is witty, articulate, and clever. @dfreese23 is not.

TortyCraig Torty Craig
In response to Adron’s boast that he’d beat me in a race because he’s faster than a hare all I could do is chuckle at his rookie naïvité.

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although @dfreese23 is often hilarious.

Just in a different way.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's funny, but it's not THAT impossibly clever.

I mean, I don’t know that Freese is necessarily clever, but I don’t think he has a Rasmus reputation.

Don’t misunderstand me, I enjoy TortyCraig as much as the next VEBer, but I’m not entirely convinced it’s beyond Freese’s capabilities (though I am aware that it’s a VEBer).

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's coming from inside the blog.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Oct 1, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay, so the weather looks beautiful there

why is the roof closed again?

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by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

It's cold!

Close the roof!
Wimps.

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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I thought too but why else would they close the roof.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

true, they would get frostbite otherwise

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

aw, the skip schumaker move only works for skip schumaker

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Oct 1, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

New mugshot!!!

Now I’m ready for gametime. If this game goes bad then I will go back to first mugshot. Can’t take chances in October.

by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Oct 1, 2011 3:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't like that he got another DWI

but that cross-eyed stare makes me smile

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 1, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bah.

Uecker’s voice is cracking.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

fast fact

Uecker was on the ’64 Cards championship team

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by peppermartin on Oct 1, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parra played that flyball from Betancourt about as poorly as possible

should have been a double if he’d been playing it off the wall the whole way….

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi.

Woke up at like 4 am this morning and got all my work done, so that I could watch the playoffs this evening.

Go…. I don’t know. Brewers, I guess. Even though we’d probably match up better against Arizona in a 7 game series.

by Voxx on Oct 1, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

see ya snakes

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 1, 2011 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I just dislike Morgan.

I don’t have the intense dislike for the team as a whole like I do the Reds.

Yet, anyways.

by Voxx on Oct 1, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, the hate's just directed towards Morgan, and a little toward Hart.

There are a couple of players on the Brewers I like: Wolf, Counsell, Axford, Weeks…

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
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by monkeysareblue on Oct 1, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Braun is shocked by the Klement's Racing Sausages celebration ritual.

Unfortunately we are not allowed to show said ritual due to FCC regulations. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Help!

I don’t want to NE at this wedding!

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 4:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

one key over from BE.

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by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Auto correct never works the way I want it to.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Oct 1, 2011 4:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think he's saying

he wants a shrubbery

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Oct 1, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Princey is so dreamy."

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

tofuickenrumsticks

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Oct 1, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh,you must be right.

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by a fink on Oct 1, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freddie Prinzey Jr?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Oct 1, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else concerned that Holliday, if he plays, would be in pain?

wonder if he would be better off getting the shot and lining up for the NLCS roster. But that’s pretty overconfident, isn’t it?

Do it for Torty.
Happy Flight!

by Oedipa Maas on Oct 1, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess if you compare Holliday coming off the bench to PH a few times

vs. whoever would replace him on the roster, which is better?

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday vs. Chalmers off the bench?

I’ll take a Holliday only holding loosely onto the bat with his right hand.

by Voxx on Oct 1, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chambers is already on the roster.

So you’d be replacing him with Greene or Patterson, probably.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chambers, Chalmers, whatever.

But yeah, valid point. And I’d rather have Holliday than anyone, just in case he’s feeling well enough to play in later games of series.

by Voxx on Oct 1, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I never would have taken him for a lightweight.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought with those shots

it was 3 days of not playing. So if he would have gotten it on wednesday, he’d play today or tomorrow to be safe

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strauss:
La Russa and Mozeliak devoted much of Friday’s workout to scrutinizing Holliday and Furcal, both of whom failed to appear in the team’s final two wins in Houston. Both were listed as questionable before the workout, but Furcal’s left hamstring and Holliday’s right hand passed muster. Furcal left the park believing he would be in today’s lineup. Holliday rejected a cortisone injection Thursday because it would almost certainly have made him unavailable for this series. He conceded Friday that he could be used in a reserve role for a game or two before migrating to the starting lineup.

Maybe the recovery time for a shot in the hand is longer?

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we get to yell

“Do It For Torty!” all game long.

/brightside

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok,

So if he may not even start the first two games anyway, why in the hell did we wait until Friday to offer him the shot? Seems like if he took it earlier this week he would be in the same situation.

by mick311 on Oct 1, 2011 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

excellent research

Here is a link to my google+ profile.

by all4tookie on Oct 1, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I saw that too.

I wonder how long the recovery time is though? Had they given him the shot Tuesday night after he reinjured the hand it may have been worth it for him to maybe just miss game one (or even come off the bench and PH) and then be available and healthy for the rest of the series.

Now if he goes out tonight and it gets worse after his first AB, he is going to miss the entire series and Patterson is forced back onto the team…

by mick311 on Oct 1, 2011 4:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

30 minutes omg

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by mysterui on Oct 1, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

the gods' names.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think you can get it through MLB.tv

If you have an international proxy or some such thing. Someone else was talking about it somewhere in this thread.

by Cardinals645 on Oct 1, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I wonder if MLB would be pissed if we put up a fanpost the lay all of this out? Everyone’s asking about it.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Oct 1, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Oct 1, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

well i'm sure you're all overjoyed

I will not be game-threading with y’all. relatives (with food) have emerged. maybe Sunday

don’t break the place

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 1, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Mmm. Food.

That outweighs the downside of relatives.

by Voxx on Oct 1, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmm. tamales.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're usually delicious, right?

these were the real deal, made by some little old abuelita in Guadalajara. Damn, they were hot.

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by peppermartin on Oct 1, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

When's the gamethread get put up

I must make one post then leave it alone as that’s what I’ve been doing during our recent stretch run and what I did the night we clinched

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Oct 1, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

15 minutes, if my calculations are correct.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Oct 1, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

touche

and i meant human…

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 1, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'ed

but it said I flagged it…

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on Oct 1, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course vegetarian

doesnt mean you eat healthy

because TLR

by punchinjudy on Oct 1, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is the outfield in the dark now?

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Oct 1, 2011 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

We're up:

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