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Morning Thread: Bynum and the Catastrophic Miles Event

I've got to say, I liked this whole minor-league-depth thing better when the Cardinals were grabbing Ruben Gotay instead of Freddie Bynum, the newest Memphis Redbird for all of us to worry about. (Bonus angle: If you want something else to blame Pete Kozma for—well, I guess you could have expected him in Memphis by now.) Bynum was in Japan for at least part of last season, but it doesn't appear to have taken—he was 4-29 in 16 games with the Orix Buffaloes, racking up six total bases and nine strikeouts. (While there he was presumably regaled with Cardinals stories by So Taguchi, who hit .261/.297/.387 as the club's fourth outfielder in his first NPB season since 2001.) 

Bynum is fast but not very good at stealing bases; he plays a lot of positions but the only ones he's adept at are in the outfield; he was actually having a fair super-utility career until an incredibly bad 2008 season with Baltimore, but it was dependent entirely on hitting a ton of triples, 8 in 351 career at-bats. 

If this is a La Russa move, and I don't think I can characterize it strictly that way, it's an inexplicable one, because he's got one of the least gritty careers I've ever seen. He strikes out a ton, he never walks, and he's the ultimate one-tool player, with speed that manifests itself entirely in track-star value—triples and the ability to run down fly balls. Grit is all about having zero tools; having one tool that you can't take full advantage of is seriously ungrit. 

Risk of Catastrophic Miles Event: 25%. I would imagine Bynum, who seems like a debauched, punchless version of Tyler Greene, would infuriate La Russa with his total lack of baseball skills—he's taller and proportionately less gritty than Joe Thurston, the last baserunning-challenged utility guy to stick for an season in St. Louis. But there's only Donovan Solano keeping him out of the bigs if the Cardinals' infield situation destabilizes. 

Star-divide

Ian Snell—well, I guess I'm fine with that, if strictly as a minor league move, but he's now three years removed from that live strikeout rate and that ability to not walk everybody. Dave Duncan has gotten decent years out of worse pitchers, but not especially decent, and not a lot worse. 

Risk of Catastrophic Miles Event: 20%. As NL Central reclamation projects Snell is less braintrust-coveted than Rich Hill and right-handed to boot; if he doesn't have a big Spring Training he'll find himself buried behind Lance Lynn, David Kopp, Brandon Dickson, Bryan Augenstein, etc. 

Miguel Batista isn't retired, which is news. He got his first cup of coffee when Albert Pujols was 12, and has been around for pieces of 16 seasons despite never once having the kind of peripherals that would make you think, yeah, that's the guy I want to put on my staff. He intentionally walked eight batters as a set-up guy in Washington last year, which seems like too many; his peripherals look a little better if you get rid of those, but not a lot better. 

He might be better than Blake Hawksworth, but he's more likely to kind of just be Blake Hawksworth. 

Risk of Catastrophic Miles Event: Orange. Batista had a 3.70 ERA last season, which is the ultimate gutsy-veteran ERA; root for Ryan Franklin to provide all the veteran guts La Russa desires in this year's bullpen, lest Batista reverse-Pipp Fernando Salas. (Trivia fact: Miguel Batista got his first cup of coffee when Wally Pipp was 12; polio was briefly called Miguel Batista's Disease in the thirties.)

I can't complain about this pick-up, but the Cardinals can and should do better when breaking camp, unless they plan on resurrecting the old very-very-very back of the bullpen. (Batista might retire of his own accord when he's assigned the locker next to Brad Thompson's skeleton.)

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maybe bynum was signed

in anticipation of new extra-innings rules: after 12 innings, game is decided by footrace from homeplate to foul pole and back. each team gets one runner, who will both start from home plate but run to opposing fouls poles and back. home team gets to pick which foul pole to run to. away team gets to pick the runners for both teams.

by zeruko on Jan 21, 2011 8:04 AM EST reply actions  

talk about home field advantage

in fenway

Your team is incompetently run by baseball equivalent of the captain from the Caine Mutiny -DiscoJer

by BVHeck on Jan 21, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

would the away team not win every time though?
away team gets to pick the runners for both teams.

For instance, we are at Miller Park and we pick Prince Fielder against Tyler Greene. Well, it’s obvious who wins that. Would you not want an actual HOME field advantage?

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 21, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he can be rehabilitated like Willie Mays Hayes and have a breakout year

although I guess it would be pushups after every strikeout instead of pop-up

by peppermartin on Jan 21, 2011 8:29 AM EST reply actions  

But its in his contract!

He doesn’t have to do any excercises he doesn’t feel are neccesary

by Aranathor on Jan 21, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

because I am flummoxed by the surname 'Bynum'
However, the name itself is of Welsh derivation, taking the Baynham and other forms in fifteenth century England among families of Welsh origin. … Eynon and Beynon have undergone curious changes in England, producing such divergent variants as Haynes and Onions and Baines, Baynham and Beniams… Baynham is an old Gloucestershire and Herefordshire surname. … "Baynham" was the dominant form of the name in the seventeenth century and that the Baynham immigrants to America (like most of that period) came from the southwestern counties or from the vicinity of London. … John Bynum, who arrived in Surry County by 1663, is the progenitor of the large American Bynum family. Neither he nor his sons were literate. Lacking the ability to spell his own name, we find it recorded by numerous clerks in what appears to be a more or less phonetic rendering of "Baynham". … The "Bynum" form of the name was rarely found, in fact, until his grandchildren and great-grandchildren, having learned to write, employed it as the preferred form. While some styled themselves as Bineham and other variants, the great majority of the descendants of this man had adopted Bynum by the nineteenth century.

The name Bynum is thus a uniquely American name, used almost exclusively by the descendants of a single immigrant.

There are blockquotes within blockquotes which I’m not bothering with.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 8:51 AM EST reply actions  

That's great

just keep in mind that Bynum, is like, black. Chances are his paternal line descended from slavery. Although many slaves did adopt their master’s surname, many made up their own (I sure as hell would have).

If I could have chosen my name, I think I would have preferred Cornelius J. Thunderdunk.

by peppermartin on Jan 21, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yeah but then people would call you Conny

and you’d have to play basketball
that’s a double whammy if i’ve ever seen one

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Jan 21, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

You mean like...

hall-of-famer, playground legend, and all-around badass Cornelius (“Connie”) Hawkins?

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 21, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

More like Connie Mack

Thunderdunk is really wishfull thinking. I’m only like 5’10" and white. I can slap the hell out of the net, though.

by peppermartin on Jan 21, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey don't worry.

Paul Simon beat Connie Hawkins 1-on-1!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Jan 21, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

With a name like Thunderdunk, let him be called Connie.

“Thunderdunk” reminds me of Lawrence Funderburke. Who I always considered to have the closest to a cool name, while simultaneously having one of the goofiest name in the history of the NBA.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Jan 21, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I woke up

Sat up in bed and said to myself “WTF.” I then laughed because I’d love to see that commercial and can picture Matt Holliday making a woosh noise while playing with his cape. Also to see any of those guys in aforementioned costume would be hilarious, even more so if Albert did the robot.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 21, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Halski will never be able to box a commercial through the FO

that makes fun of Lego
we lost the i’m up for anything fun with Boog

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Jan 21, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Amen

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.

by Dave Pendleton on Jan 22, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I would love to see that.

surely with all these talented people around here….someone can do this.

Oh, my friend, it's not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left. ~Hubert Humphrey

by spfldbird on Jan 21, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

it is rather made of win.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

What a cluster fuck downtown

They shut down 55 North and made us get off at 7th. But no where to get back on to the highway. I had to take the 10th St exit across Highway 70.

by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 21, 2011 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah

I normally take 44-55 over the Poplar. Had to get off at 55 South, took Arsenal to Gravois to Russell to Broadway then turned around by the Oyster Bar and got onto 64 by the stadium. Thanks for the heads up, Channel 5! Only 45 minutes late to work!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course, it was because someone was killed, so it could be worse...

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

For you, yes.

For the dead person, not so much.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Jan 21, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

In news a bit closer to my home, the weather has cooled down to about 90 so the Red Shirts are out in force tomorrow.

Should effectively shut down the entire city for about ten hours. I sometimes wear a bright red Cards t-shrt and join in, People are only sometimes killed, but arrests are common.Can cost about 500 Baht to bribe your way out. All in all reasonable entertainment along the lines of paying to watch Floppy, Happy and Gritty cavorting about the infield.

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by akaitori on Jan 22, 2011 3:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm holding off on my where is baseball moaning until Albert is signed.

Oh, my friend, it's not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left. ~Hubert Humphrey

by spfldbird on Jan 21, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

heh nice

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Jan 21, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

as time goes on I worry more.

nice picture though.

Oh, my friend, it's not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left. ~Hubert Humphrey

by spfldbird on Jan 21, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

there was something that he said at the warmup

to this little girl standing next to me that he was friends with
that made me freak out a little
so right now i am a little worried too

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Jan 21, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

well, what was it?

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jan 21, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, the "vibe" seems to have changed since the announcment..

that start of spring training was the deadline. DeWitt just has to decide. Pay him and keep a good team. Pay him and short the rest of the team. Don’t pay him and field a good team.

I know, it’s not my $200M+

Oh, my friend, it's not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left. ~Hubert Humphrey

by spfldbird on Jan 21, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Most excellent!

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.

by Dave Pendleton on Jan 22, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I'm going to have to play The Show today to avoid going crazy.

Or maybe it will just make things worse.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Jan 21, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Better abbr.

Can we all agree to a sabermetrics-styled abbreviation of ROCME (?) for Risk of Catastrophic Miles Event? As in, “What is the preseason ROCME projection for Ian Snell?”

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Jan 21, 2011 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

Rec'd.

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by StanTheManFan on Jan 21, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

glossary'd.

maybe.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

People are already using it

How does it not make the glossary!?!?

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Jan 21, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

standards are higher than that.

memes can last one day, and never be seen again.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

in bed.

Is it March 31st yet?

by TBender on Jan 21, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Comedy gold...

“Batista might retire of his own accord when he’s assigned the locker next to Brad Thompson’s skeleton”

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Jan 21, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

I love how

the first 2 get a percentage ranking. Then for Batista, we get the Homeland Security terror rating color system. Because the thought of Batista taking up space in the bullpen invokes terror in all of our hearts.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jan 21, 2011 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

Stolen from my friend's facebook status

A preoccupied vegan named Hugh
picked up the wrong sandwich to chew.
He took a big bite
before spitting, in fright,
“OMG, WTF, BBQ!”

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Jan 21, 2011 11:09 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

didn't we sign freddie bynum before, but he never made it to the bigs?

or is it just me?

(btw, i’m more worried about a stav re-appearance than bynum being in stl at any point next season)

EH #2
SIGN ALBERT!!!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jan 21, 2011 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

and also, soup is a giant.

san francisco giant, that is.

EH #2
SIGN ALBERT!!!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jan 21, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

is it official now?

it’s okay, we’ll trade colby for him straight up at the deadline

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
coming in 2011: Boog would've moments count....

by d-dee on Jan 21, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

....

linky

minor league deal for $1M.

bad news: it includes a “late march buyout”… argh.

EH #2
SIGN ALBERT!!!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jan 21, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Not according to Baseball-Reference.

He was originally drafted by Oakland (a 2nd rounder), then rattled around several teams before heading overseas. None were in the Cardinals system.

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by StanTheManFan on Jan 21, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

/still waiting on my w-2

:(

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
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by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

he needs to spend it to help the economy!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

you can state deficit my balls.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

get ‘em in early and it won’t be too bad.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Feds won't even process mine until mid February,

because of itemized deductions.

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by RiverRat on Jan 21, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm self-employed

I always have to pay :(

Oh, my friend, it's not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left. ~Hubert Humphrey

by spfldbird on Jan 21, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Did one year as a 1099 independent contractor

that was brutal.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

my wife is 1099

it sucks ass. I’m surprised her company can get away with claiming they are independent contractors.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

you should sue them! need a lawyer?

/kidding…mostly.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jan 21, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

they are working on laws that would change that

Basically, if you have a schedule, they require you to wear a uniform, you are an employee.

But we’ll see.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

i am pretty sure that is already the law.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jan 21, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

if it is

like everybody is breaking it.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

damn i should set up a clinic or something.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jan 21, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe...

because as an independent contractor working solo for commission the employee tag sounds nice some times

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Shelby Miller's MLB eta of 2012 from BP

just made my pants a little tighter.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 12:04 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Goldstein seems to be more critical of our prospects defense

than anyone/anything I’ve read to date. He still has the same relative opinions on them but it’s phrased in a different manner. I found that list a bit confusing.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

If, y'know, you wanted to email it to me

I wouldn’t be opposed to that

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Miller's report is free

link

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

SBN!!!!

Link

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I know that

But I also want to read the rest of it

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe you should get a job.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

(I don't have a subscription either.)

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I've subscribed for years

and have found it to be well worth the money for two things: minor-league reports by Kevin Goldstein, and injury reports by Will Carroll. Carroll isn’t there any more, and too many of the people they’ve replaced him with are lightweights, so I’m not sure I’ll re-up this time. Probably will, though — Goldstein is second only to Sickels in his farm reports.

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by StanTheManFan on Jan 21, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

If Miller decided what he wanted to do with his hair

he could be my favourite Cardinal. Oh and it would be nice if he keeps doing that pitching thing.

by Aranathor on Jan 21, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

the one who really needs to do something about his hair is Colby

That little girl curly look is just not becoming for him. He looks much better bald.

Oh, my friend, it's not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left. ~Hubert Humphrey

by spfldbird on Jan 21, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'ing that for the ETA

not for Fritz’s pants getting tighter

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Aranathor, on the other hand

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Jan 21, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Marines. (ahem)

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Jan 21, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

you should see the shorts we ran in durring boot camp...

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Those things made me very uncomfortable.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

this is probably old news, but i'm going to share anyway.

drunky taking a bit of a cut in games to give way to more horton play by play games (barf). i know this was announced a little bit ago but this article has a few more details.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/dan-caesar/article_a6f1fbcc-4198-5456-8456-e5c1cf821ae0.html?mode=comments

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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 21, 2011 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

i still like wayne hagin better.

i’m weird, i know.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 21, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't dislike Hagin but replacing Buck was impossible.

I’m okay with Rooney.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

i still think hagin got absolutely jobbed.

it’s almost like they told him he could fill the job for now but the second a guy “they wanted” became available he would be gone. it was honestly a joke. hagin’s call of the 2004 edmonds’ home run is one of my favorite ever.

mike shannon being a little bitch about the situation didn’t help either. i love mike, but he handled the situation like a four year old child.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 21, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He didn't like Hagin.

I think he handled it like a guy that didn’t want to work with someone he didn’t like who had more pull with management. It’s not like he framed him for arson or something.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah hagin and shannon

are just cut from a different cloth. I remember several times when shannon would say something on air about going to the casino or racetrack and hagin would blatantly say “I don’t go there” or “Mike I’ve never been to the racetrack”

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
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by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i too liked hagin better

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

6ly

being a non-native fan, i have no historical allegiance to these guys (i’ve only had 2 years of extra innings), so i don’t mind saying i don’t like any of them. at all. len and bob here in chicago put them all to shame.

by mikey_mac on Jan 21, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Ken Harrelson better than those guys. I can't stand Bob

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

actually, hawk and stone are a weirdly enjoyable pair

they’re like an old married couple. it somehow makes me smile when they both whine about the same thing, but differently, and refuse to acknowledge each other. definitely not for the baseball fan who thinks baseball should be, you know, fun.

by mikey_mac on Jan 21, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

WTFingF???

Noooooooooooo! This presents an unacceptable dilemma. In the past, I could flip off the TV audio and turn on the radio. Now Ricky “Living-In-The-80s” Horton has completely screwed that solution.

"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver

by kallawaykid on Jan 21, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

also...

what the hell is up with actual baseball discussion occurring after midnight in yesterday’s thread? what the hell is wrong with you guys?

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the fritz approved twitter account @nicholasgrobe

by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 21, 2011 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

But seriously Matt Kemp?!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

what can ya say, he's a wizard.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jan 21, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Not shocked

just look at his “awesome” stats
28 dingers
89 RBIs
19 SB
82 Runs
.985 flding %
oh and i’m sure they said he’ll rebound to his old .300 avg in 2011

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

His offense could rebound... he had a .295 BABIP last year and seems like a .325 true talent guy

And he had a -24 UZR last year which, uh, seems pretty unreasonable

He’s better than he was last year, but worse than he was in 2009

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Cards sign nick punto to one year deal per Leach and others

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Tweet read:

Sure I’m not the first, but #StLCards just announced that they’ve signed Nick Punto to a one-year deal.

I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff

by Paulspike on Jan 21, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I think TLR has control of the Cards official twitter

versatile link

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That one was Leach's tweet

I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff

by Paulspike on Jan 21, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

the link i posted is to the @cardsinsider official cards twitter

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no data on this

but due to the size of his forearms and legs and yet his miles-ian lack of power, Punto’s got to have a Thurston-esque swing. Painguy, any input?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

to a Major league deal?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

No details yet, as far as I know

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by Paulspike on Jan 21, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

probably

now if we can get rid of Skip, there’s still room for Greene

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Or Punto continues to not hit?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

he's only been called up twice

how is he out of options?

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by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i need to check

I swear i saw that he was.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

there is still room for greene anyway

Cardinals have been carrying 4 infielders…

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

umm...

Greene
Skip
theriot
punto
freese

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@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i meant middle infielders

Skip, Theriot, and Freese starting

Punto and Greene on the bench.

Didn’t expect Greene to be the only bench guy did you?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

so with skip that's 12 positional players

I thought it would be more (oh well)

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@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you need to check your math

8 starters + 5 bench players(Laird, Jay, Craig, Greene and Punto) = 13

Although LaRussa will inevitably send Greene down to have a 13th pitcher gather dust in the bullpen.

Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose and sometime it rains.

by garden nome on Jan 21, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Strauss reports deal is for 750K

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a fucking steal then

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

trying to figure out how people

are going to turn this into another mo’ sucks party

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jan 21, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

don't know

my biggest criticism of mo last year was not having a back up 3rd baseman in case the rookie with an injury history got hurt or flamed out.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the Punto signing lots.

Eases the pain of the Boog loss. And I love the Punto grimace! Grrrrr! (BTW – Methinks VEB nation needs a new term for this!)

The “Mo Sucks” party will be thrown when ST starts. Some random dude he was s’posed to sign to an extension turned 30 on Jan 16. Mo forgot to give this random person a present, but has ’til ST to correct this oversight.

"Beckett’s retired 19 batters through Six and a third innings, he’s having a phenomonal night…" --Tim McCarver

by kallawaykid on Jan 21, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Mo does deserve his fair share of "Mo Sucks!"

unless the Miles and Feliz additions were in any way positive

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

GODDAMMIT YOU

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

so this means no Miles right?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Not yet anyways

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Jan 21, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Elite defender, can't hit

Sounds familiar… but more expensive

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

THIS WAS BEFORE SCREW YOU

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously more expensive.

Punto salary begins with a 7.
Boog salary begins with a 1.

Is it March 31st yet?

by TBender on Jan 21, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

7 times more expensive?

at least pujols, carp, holliday are cheap

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

In 2010,

252 ABs, .238/.313/.302 which translates to a 69 OPS+
Baseball Reference has him at 0.4 dWAR. He logged in 344.2 innings at 3B, 258.0 innings at SS and 77.0 innings at 2B
Overall B-R WAR: 0.6 while earning 4 mil.

I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff

by Paulspike on Jan 21, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

One thing interesting about him.

Since 2004, look at his’ OBP:
.340
.301
.352
.291
.344
.337
.313
I guess if the patter stands, he’ll be OBP’ing .350 this year

I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff

by Paulspike on Jan 21, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

This RT by Leach says it all

PunkOnDeck Brian K
by MatthewHLeach
B. Ryan could do what they want Punto to do. Only better.

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by Paulspike on Jan 21, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Not much better and he's more expensive

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

by how many Skip Schumakers?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

he can spin?!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

conspiracy theory

Fox Sports Midwest equipping Boog and Bombs with a video camera precipitated their exit.

Therefore, it’s really The Cat’s fault.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

“FUCME”

—Dan Descalso

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 21, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Awesome!

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on Jan 21, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh god

Cardinals just signed Punto to a one year deal, per Leach

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:35 PM EST reply actions  

PUNTO!!!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I kind of like this deal.

For the sheer fact that it means no Miles!

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by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear that if you go into a dark room, stare at a mirror, and say Aaron Miles 3 times

He comes and eats your soul.

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by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

not possible

after last season, I have no soul left

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

in a little known dielect

punto is spanish for grit

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Jan 21, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

TWO dive-throws!?!!?

cool

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

looks gritty.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jan 21, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

one more

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Holy shit that's awesome

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it me,

or does he look like a poor woman’s Lance Berkman

I need signature suggestions. The Boog and the Walrus have both departed. And it's not funny anymore... sniff

by Paulspike on Jan 21, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

A Mini-Puma?

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by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Dr. Puma and Mini Puma

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Er... My brother worked for the Downtown Journal (the paper that particular pic was made for). It's photoshopped.

Elke ware zoon, zo blij van harte / Hemels boven ons zijn blauw / Er is een geest zo diep binnen ons / Oud Missouri dit is voor jou / Wanneer de band het Tijger oorlogslied speelt / En wanneer de strijd over is / We zullen stampen, stampen, stampen, rond de kolommen / Met een kreet voor oud Mizzou!

by Dutch Missourian on Jan 21, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

God I love this site

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

...

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

How does a ball get that dirty?

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.

by Dave Pendleton on Jan 22, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, he's gritty!

;=8)

G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!

by The MooCow on Jan 21, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

So this is the catastrophic Miles event, no?

Risk = 100%

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

Except he's much better than Miles?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He has one skill!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll go with not really.

Offensively, they aren’t far removed from one another. Defensively, yes Punto is better but he’ll be <1 WAR in all likelihood and there’s a distinct chance that he’ll be below replacement level.

Zips slash stats: .239/.324/.306

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm tempted to rec this

Simplistic yet the truthiness is so complex

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by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

proveyness!!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a linguistic term for a statement that is so complete that there are no other possiblities. She is pregnant or she is not pregnant.

preceeding Boog/TLR comment fits that category nicely

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jan 22, 2011 3:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope. You can be a little bit pregnant.

Little known fact.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Jan 22, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

green

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jan 21, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

though kinda true

this seems disingenuous. TLR was not the only Cardinal whom he pissed off with his behavior… and Boog was a problem on his college team too.

by _pistol_ on Jan 21, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

And that stops TLR from being an asshole....how?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 21, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but he's OUR asshole...

:=8)

G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!

by The MooCow on Jan 22, 2011 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

In the past 5 years, he's been below 1 fWAR once

I see absolutely no evidence that he’ll be below that or below replacement level

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, $750K

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I like this deal

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He's already -10 with the bat in half a season last year

and he’s 33. You can’t even expect him to hold par at that age. The difference between Punto and Miles is the difference between a Bassethound and a weiner dog. One’s certainly bigger and more respectable but they’re both within inches of the ground.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We're paying an elite defender $750K to back up 3 positions

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Only UZR thinks he's elite

TZL and +/- are much more mixed on his defense. Also: THIRTY-THREE

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Elite was actually an eye-test by me

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

or best backup for 3rd,

where we have a guy made of ice, was playing in AA last year.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

way to go

now you’ve fated us to having an starting IF that includes Skip, Theriot, and Punto

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

with skip's contract being up at the end of this year

I’m really for Greene taking over his job. (actually, slide theriot there and let greene play SS)

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

he did

had a few years with a real chance at 3rd.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW

I suppose this is only catastophic to the degree that it takes away from better players. I don’t really understand this signing when you already have Schumaker, Theriot and Tyler Greene on the roster. In fact, this makes the Theriot move look even dumber in retrospect.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's catastrophic in the same way Miles is.

That is to say, it makes me want to stab my eyes out with frustration over inexplicable decision making.

But the move, in isolation, is about a tepid as possible. Maybe a small plus in WAR/$.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No Miles actually did not have any redeeming qualities

Punto does. At less than 2x league minimum

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like we need to make a bet here.

Signature bet – 2 weeks

If Nick Punto is worth less than .5 fWAR per fangraphs after game 81, I win. He’s greater than .5 fWAR, you win.

Interested?

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

And if he equals .5?

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by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure I'm in

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

after game 81

would imply at any point in time beyond game 81. We need specifics if we don’t want this to end like the BSOML bet

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Sunday June 26th would be game 80.

If CodyG and mysterui are both game and willing to accept the fWAR after that game (which should include UZR then), I’ve got two victims.

CodyG & mysterui please confirm acceptance.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

sure

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

so how do sigs work if you lose

do you combine mysterui’s and mine or do we do it separately?

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

avatar cloning.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

In

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Erik manning thinks Punto will be a 1WAR player

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

nevermind what war

i see it’s fWAR

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

but when do we do the poll?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jan 21, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i could slug .306.

follow me on twitter @nickg105

the fritz approved twitter account @nicholasgrobe

by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 21, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

and tolleson

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Jan 21, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

he would have been our best middle infielder last season,

and he projects to compete for best this season. Miles was the worst player in baseball two seasons ago and bad last season.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Jan 21, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Knock on wood

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by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, thank god we didn't sign someone that can't hit but is a good fielder.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if Feliz was exactly a good fielder when he was a Cardinal last year.

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by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm blame that on the fact that third base is cursed in STL.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jan 21, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Spinal Tap?

go cards, rams, blues, mizzou...

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Jan 21, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The Curse of Scotty

though apparently Rolen himself is not responsible.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Rolen was a victum

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Placido?

you don’t think he and his huge face left a little something in 06, do you? plausible…

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Polanco?

The cards thought it was the “Curse of the giant bald head” which was the real reason the coveted Matt Holliday so much.

Not even Lego could replace that.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jan 21, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

that skull just screams anabolic steroid user

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

dang it

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

that skull just screams anabolic steroid user

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey that guy that posts here that has your avatar was posting over at the Packers SBN blog

I got super confused for a second.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

SHUT UP CODY

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

that bar was set pretty low.

Club Felipe has a low bar, FYI.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

he fielded?!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry, by fielder I mean

stood on the field. My bad guys.

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by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

so... he chaired?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct

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by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Feliz, Miles, Bynum crises

all averted. If you accept the inevitability that we were ging to sign an aging, offensively challenged, backup infielder this is as good as it gets. True, a younger, better player, probably Descalso, will be sulking in Memphis, but Punto is versatile, cheap and the real deal defensively. It also means that Mo has some realization that he was full of crap when he said we’d be better defensively this year.

by easy on Jan 22, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

i honestly don't think Descalasco is better than Punto

People overrate him big time here

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 22, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Fun fact!

Punto is CHEAPER than Brendan Ryan!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

Skip Schumaker is still terrible and overpaid.

Ryan/Punto projects better and makes less money than Riot/Schu

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Jan 21, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

He's not terrible....

…he had a down year last year, let’s not get hysterical…
:=8/

G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!

by The MooCow on Jan 22, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

i do find that fun

most probably won’t though

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 21, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the deal just because we're essentially replacing boog

but I really wanted to see t. greene get a lot of playing.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Platoon at CF

Duh

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

not a punchline...

but i really did see him. i told him i was glad he’s back in the city and the division, but that i wouldn’t be rooting for him. i didn’t think to get a confirmation, but he looked BSOHL

by mikey_mac on Jan 21, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

what bar?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

tripoli tavern

he lives in the neighborhood, and he’s been seen there before by my friend, so it might be his local. but i can’t recommend any aspect of that place though, even though, oddly, i was there of my own volition, and will probably be back at some point.

by mikey_mac on Jan 21, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm cool

The main place I always here of athletes being is Japonais. Too pricey for me though.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

glad we agree

sorry, thought we were talking about bars pro athletes enjoy, so i was thrown

by mikey_mac on Jan 21, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

bars, restaurants, brothels, whatev

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of brothels

i heard some rumors about Frank Thomas bagging lots of white girls in lincoln park back in the day

by mikey_mac on Jan 21, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

that would be where one would go to do that

you know those depaul girls

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm sure there were some of those as well

but i think the … participants … were just run-of-the-mill trixies

by mikey_mac on Jan 21, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

tomato

tomahto

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

ewww

a Boston teams bar

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

nick punto > skip schumaker

discuss.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 21, 2011 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

In terms of pure WAR, they're probably about equal

In terms of WAR/$, ’druther have Punto

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

WAIT

is “druthers” just a weird archaic conjunction-misspelling of “would rather?”

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I always assumed

shrug

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

USC, huh?

Definition of DRUTHERS
dialect
: free choice : preference —used especially in the phrase if one had one’s druthers

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

But what's the origin of the word?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

FUCK YOU FRITZ

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/194850.html

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

cool

you know what they say, “you learn something from a USC grad everyday”

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Lint is a shell's best friend

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Some people say my head is too big for my body

I say “Compared to what?”

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

British, huh?

I thought we won the war.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I believed we swept the series in 1812.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno

Canada at least won one game when they burnt down the White House.

by Mulliganstew on Jan 21, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

as long as we're talking about beating the Englishmen

we might as well say things like “burnt down”

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

not definitive

eyntomological

Isn't this a youth movement? Don't Trade Colby!

by Oedipa Maas on Jan 21, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

’cept “ruther” was a conditional inflection of rather in older ModE, not a freaky mispelling, if you ignore a certain lack of standardized spelling

Isn't this a youth movement? Don't Trade Colby!

by Oedipa Maas on Jan 21, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting

what would change that inflection?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

probably it was the simple phasing out

of much of ModEs inflection after the KJB.

Isn't this a youth movement? Don't Trade Colby!

by Oedipa Maas on Jan 21, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

What the hell did you just say to me

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

um

King James Bible.

Isn't this a youth movement? Don't Trade Colby!

by Oedipa Maas on Jan 21, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

How vulgar!

Um, I mean vulgate. Whatevs.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jan 21, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

the best vernacular!

when it was church approved, you see.

Isn't this a youth movement? Don't Trade Colby!

by Oedipa Maas on Jan 21, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i prefer my bibles to be of the fielding variety

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

Well-played, sir.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Jan 21, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant what were the conditions of the inflection

gender, number, possessive?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry, didn't mean case.

i meant the verbal conditional, which is something English doesn’t really indicate outside of the auxillaries anymore.

Isn't this a youth movement? Don't Trade Colby!

by Oedipa Maas on Jan 21, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

subjunctive?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

bingo

Isn't this a youth movement? Don't Trade Colby!

by Oedipa Maas on Jan 21, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

sweet mercy, I remember grammar things

damn you, VEB. damn you.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

ah i gotcha

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

What!

What’s your authority for this? “rather” is an adjective/adverb; only verbs have conditional inflections.

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Jan 21, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear there was one in Metropolis, IL

around that time, but I can only find references to Indiana, Kentucky and Tennessee.

Is it March 31st yet?

by TBender on Jan 22, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Out pitching staff would agree

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by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

20 run difference defensively

offensively skip is probably 15 to 20 runs better

so It’s a push, but by the slightest margin i’m going with punto.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Chance of FUCME = Red

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

come on man

i already vomited once today with the news of the signing…now this?

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Jan 21, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Rui

Do you still want the Goldstein article from today?

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Jan 21, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

Psh, you are DEFINITELY not Rui

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF about lynn?

hitting 97? sitting 92-95?

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds like excellent news

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

it does

i just thought he was a 89-91 guy.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It sounds like he was at the beginning of the season

And near the end, he started throwing more gas

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It's the first I've heard of it

and it would be the first time he’s broken 95 since …. ever? I don’t buy into it for a moment. It seems like one of those times where a gun was high and someone saw it and it became the new norm. I’ve seen Lynn pitch and he threw 89-92 and rarely touched higher than that. It’s not impossible but he’d literally be a different player than the one they drafted if that was the case. I may try and download a late season start on video after reading that report.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, when was the last time one of our pitchers

went from a two-seam fastball to a four-seam fastball?

That’s what I thought. . .

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

did you read the article quoting Motte saying

he was going to use the four-seamer more often this season, and the two-seamer less so?

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

The Second Pitch!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

That’s the same Motte who can’t even identify what he himself is throwing.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

give me your emailz

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Jan 21, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you very very much sir

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

ditto

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

not a prob

sent

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Jan 21, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I always took you as a Tyler

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I always took your mom as Tyler

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Jan 21, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

boom

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

ruixu AT usc DOT edu

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck you Cody

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

*phuck

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

WHOA! NOOOOOO!!!!!

2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!

by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

how did you get.....oh never mind

Oh, my friend, it's not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left. ~Hubert Humphrey

by spfldbird on Jan 21, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

clearly they are either
  1. Last ditch efforts to show Albert they’re willing to make financial decisions decisively, or
  2. Patsies for the unthinkable.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

PLATOON WITH BERKMAN PLZ

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

If either Punto or Greene are our offensive output from 3rd this season...

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

YOU BETTER BE TAKING GROUNDERS RIGHT NOW, CRAIG!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

im sure he'll see some time in spring training

and well go from there.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

So what's the % (or color) risk of Miles shaving his goatee and showing up to Jupiter claiming to be Nick Punto?

Because if it worked, it would be pretty catastrophic.

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Jan 21, 2011 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

come on cody

you can do better than that

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

that's an older one

check out the terrible use of the cloning tool

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Content aware my ass

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

you mean Suppan?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

nice brick shirts

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

do you ask yourself that a lot?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

indeed

I often ask myself these questions about my minute made PSs.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

bottom left corner

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

did you look up the original?

because the upper left guy looks possible.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

no i didn't

just a guess

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I offer into evidence (blockquote info courtesy Baseball-Reference)
Aaron Wade Miles

Positions: Second Baseman and Shortstop
Bats: Both, Throws: Right
Height: 5’ 8", Weight: 180 lb.
Nicholas Paul Punto

Positions: Third Baseman, Shortstop and Second Baseman
Bats: Both, Throws: Right
Height: 5’ 9", Weight: 190 lb.


Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Jan 21, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

flag'd

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

/sh*t disturbing

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Jan 21, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

When was Miles a White Sock?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

rookie year

Amaury Cazana for RF in 2011 - the legend will never die!

by avs18fan on Jan 21, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

In case you're wondering(forgive me for size)

yes punto does dive into first




I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

That .gif had me confused

I saw one pic as I scrolled through quickly. I"d go back up to see it and it didn’t exist. Wasn’t until I stopped for a second did I realize you posted a .gif

by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 21, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm known for my gifs

it needed to be included.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't be ridiculous

Punto doesn’t even have facial hair.

by mojowo11 on Jan 21, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

in bed.

follow me on twitter @nickg105

the fritz approved twitter account @nicholasgrobe

by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 21, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Greetings

Been a lurker for a while. Been good-looking forever.
I like the metrics and the wit here. Well, at least the metrics.

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 3:18 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Wow, that's awfully arrogant of you
Been good-looking forever.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, babies are fucking ugly.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

All babies

look like Winston Churchill.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jan 21, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

in bed

G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!

by The MooCow on Jan 21, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I think those women were lying.

I love the smell of bacon.

Oh, my friend, it's not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left. ~Hubert Humphrey

by spfldbird on Jan 21, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

babies smell like poop and ruined lives

bacon smells like heaven and pure pleasure.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Jan 21, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You've never been to Pure Pleasure, have you?

It don’t smell good.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

touché

sometimes it does smell like bacon though.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Jan 21, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

see? I was too stupid to reply and posted below. exactly what I was talking about.

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

well, in his defense, your mother told him that.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jan 21, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good looking you say?

I think you’ll fin i’m the sexiest VEBer, you have trouble taking that mantle good sir! Or madam.

by Aranathor on Jan 21, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That may be. Your avatar is sexy, indeed. I make no claims of relative attractiveness.

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

safe bet.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jan 21, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

nfw

justin veber

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Jan 21, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

wow, you received a nice warm welcome.

ahem…WELCOME TO VEB! we look forward to your awe-inspiring insights into cardinals baseball or any other topic that might come to mind.

p.s. if you haven’t, read the community guidelines and the glossary (ignore the part that says use of “twss” is frowned upon)

p.p.s. get in the habit of using subject lines. this was a good start.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jan 21, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

subject lines was so january 20th, 2011

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

STABSTABSTABSTAB

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Jan 21, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

GO TO HELL

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Goddammit

CURSE YOU, MEME

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I still don't care for how that word is pronounced.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not surprised you didn't know how to pronounce it

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not either

as I still have never heard it used in an actual, real life social environment.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If I ever meet you I'm just going to shout "MEME!" in your face.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Jan 21, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd shrug my shoulders and say "lo siento... no hablo espanol..."

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

how in the hell have you two never met?

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

VEB would collapse in on itself.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Jan 21, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

so like the end of the universe?

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

more like Highlander.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

or 30 year old smart ass in south city on VEB.

though I think there are more than just us.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know what that means.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

zooom

never seen it.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

We're just the loudest.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Jan 21, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I've got the smart ass in south city part down

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jan 21, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

It's funny because Fritz is old

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

what is funny?

Define the “it”, motherfucker.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You said

“or 30 year old smart ass in south city on VEB.”

Mattybobo said:
“I’ve got the smart ass in south city part down”

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

So what is funny because "fritz is old"?

You still have not fucking explained it.

The fact that I live in south city?

The fact that I’m barely fucking older than your ass?

The fact that you can’t properly set up a fucking joke?

What the fuck is so fucking funny?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 22, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Anger issues

from a young guy.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I just like making fun of Rui's attempt at a meme

I mean… ROAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 22, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I get my matty's confused

but I thought neither of youse lived here.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I live on Oleatha, just a few houses east of Oak Hill

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jan 22, 2011 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Ahhhh that's right

did you move last year? How you liking tower grove south?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 22, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I like it a lot so far

People are pretty nice. Haven’t gotten around to seeing as much local stuff as I would like, but eh.
One of the only things I don’t like about the neighborhood is the seemingly random scheme of one-way and two-way streets. My block is two-way, despite the fact that my street is about 5 feet wide. It becomes one-way elsewhere. There are wider streets that turn one-way for certain blocks. It doesn’t make any sense to me.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jan 23, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

it's not just you.

I’m pretty sure there was a lot of drinking involved when they did the street planning.

Like trying to get off the side street that The Royale is on! Literally every street that connects to it is a one way going the wrong direction, then it dead ends. No sense!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 23, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I just went ahead and drove the wrong way a little once

when I went to the Royale.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jan 23, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I use it all the time when I talk to non-VEBers about VEB

It’s pronounced like may-may, right?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 21, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Turn your sarcasm detector on

/sarcasm.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 21, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

that's just ridiculous

it’ll always be Mem-me to me

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

you don't get to question it.

all you’ve got going is a punny avatar of someone no longer with the team.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i've gotta get a new one by ST

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

moom

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jan 21, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

no, but stick around. you'll figure it out

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

The arrogance just covers up my stupidity.. My baby is really ugly, though.

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

She is a chick...

but if she’s into other chicks, that’s cool with me.

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Is ok...

..chicks dig scarfs moore than dudes…

G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O!

by The MooCow on Jan 21, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

My wife has like 6 scarves, but just one dude…

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

mysterui's mom on the other hand has no scarves

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

thank GOB

it’s up to 9 degrees finally. sick.

by mikey_mac on Jan 21, 2011 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

OT: I'm getting an interview scheduled for next week.

But I’m going to err on the side of caution by saying no more than that. We don’t need another gdm situation in here.

by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 21, 2011 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

it's cool

the new gdm is mysterui anyways.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck you guys

I’m playing FIFA in my pajamas as we speak. I’m living the life

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

loser.

where are you located anyway?

follow me on twitter @nickg105

the fritz approved twitter account @nicholasgrobe

by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 21, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Springfield

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

BUT WILLING TO RELOCATE TO ST. LOUIS IF I GET HIRED BY THE CARDINALS

HINT TO ANY FRONT OFFICE EXECS READING THIS

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

so thats why you liked the Bynum NRI.

Suck up.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

just find some coed party to go to.

there’s bound to be parties in freaking springfield tonight. or come up here and we can get drunk.

follow me on twitter @nickg105

the fritz approved twitter account @nicholasgrobe

by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 21, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I will not buy you alcohol

Also, I’m living with my fiancee now. There is no need for me to meet coeds

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

springfield il or mo

Oh, my friend, it's not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left. ~Hubert Humphrey

by spfldbird on Jan 21, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

MO

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

GUTS

Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions

by jd is legend on Jan 21, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

And you haven't been in to see Matt Gifford yet and ask for a job?

Oh, my friend, it's not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left. ~Hubert Humphrey

by spfldbird on Jan 21, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I've emailed everybody in that office several times

Nobody answers

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

before I click on this

is this a real link?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

oh god why did i click that

I was even warned!

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

OMG Is that your mom?!

2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!

by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, what's up with your sig? do you have some link/connections to the all-star game in phoenix??

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jan 21, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

here

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jan 23, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

So I asked about this awhile back but...

does anyone know anything about this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_the_Giants

I’m looking at you DanUp. I saw Ichiro mentioned it and now I’m seriously interested in reading it.

Fire John Mozeliak

by purple_haze on Jan 21, 2011 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

I hate how I can't use z to scroll through Facebook

The highlight of my baseball career came in Philadelphia's Connie Mack Stadium when I saw a fan fall out of the upper deck. When he got up and walked away, the crowd booed.
--Bob Uecker

by Hootie Who on Jan 21, 2011 4:00 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

Ok I have a question for the VEB community, Y2S might be able to help

I’m looking for a specific post that was by RB.
I’ve tried searching for it and can’t find the one I’m looking for.
It was a main page post and it was about emotional bargaining chips. He talked about how hard it was after the death of his fiance and how Cards games were one of the only things he had and all his bargaining chips were on the games. Anyone remember this post? I was using the emotional bargaining chip analogy the other day and wanted to read the post but I can’t find it.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

i found those

but neither is the one i’m looking for

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Im not sure it still exists.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i was afraid of this

does sbn delete old posts?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

No

but RB may have for all we know.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

sbn doesn't delete posts

he could have. I remember the one you’re looking for, but I don’t know how you’d find it.

by DanUpBaby on Jan 21, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm. ok

Thanks anyway. For whatever reason, whenever I read it, it really resonated with me. I don’t even remember what I was going through at the time. It wasn’t anything like losing a loved one though.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

it does make 'em more difficult to find, though.

my memory resets after a certain period of time. that’s why I write down so many inane things.

…then I lose the notes.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I can look at threads from 2005

so i’m guessing no

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Email him

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i will do that

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

he never removed it. He pointed me in the right direction.

Life Lenses

Well worth a read or re-read. One of RB’s best, which is saying a lot.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

turns out it was punditmoi that made the emotional wagering analogy

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i remember which one it was.

i think it was in early april of last year.

EH #2
SIGN ALBERT!!!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jan 21, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

of the latest FA signings

i’m happiest with nick punto. utility IF, good talent… i’m pumped.

EH #2
SIGN ALBERT!!!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jan 21, 2011 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

he's miles but with a decent glove.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Elite

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

if the signing leads to something that makes sense

like trading Skip or Theriot and committing to having good defense, I’ll like Punto, but if it just means we have another terrible bat either in the lineup or off the bench even his nice price tag makes be either indifferent or frustrated.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

it’s like they are stockpiling mediocrity

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

The move may not make sense,

but it’s still a valuable move because it gives us an asset worth more than his salary at a position where we are uncertain.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Jan 21, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

he's brendan ryan

with a slightly worse glove.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

and made $4m lat year

in tlr retrovision, it is a great deal

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Jan 21, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I quit reccing your stuff ages ago.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jan 21, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

false

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw you, new guy

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

flag'd

you’re welcome new gdm

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats interesting

Your mom said that to me last night but with a different connotation.

by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 21, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

f'n CodyG

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jan 21, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

huh

I’ve been flagging every one of your posts since then trying to get rid of repay you

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jan 21, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Just asked my Twins fan friend what to think about the signing:

“He’s a scrapper, you’re going to like his grit in late game, defensive situations. However, i really feel for you if any of your guys get hurt and he plays everyday….”

I could live with this. Scrap+grit+defense=defense.

But, minutes later, this:

“oh yeah. I hope you like head-first slides into first :)”

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

First thing I thought of when I read that we signed Punto...

“I am going to have nightmares of Freese getting hurt again and Punto becoming our primary 3B.”

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jan 21, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

woohoo!

it’s like Brendan Ryan with less upside! nice move!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 21, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

and half the cost!

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 21, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

that part is nice

I wonder if Albert was like, hey, can you guys find us a real second baseman? and they were like, well, we got Theriot, and there’s this guy Punto who’s almost as good as Brendan Ryan, so how does that work for you?

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 21, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

whoop-de-doo

it’s a million** dollars they’ll spend on the same type of player*** a little bit down the line

 not even a million, but the hyperbole helps
 
*hopes the team proves me wrong

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Middle infield of Skip, Theriot, Punto, Bynum, possibly Miles....

we should try to acquire Hanley Ramirez or something.

Sign Carl Pavano!!!

by guayzimi on Jan 21, 2011 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

he'd get out hustled and we'd DFA him.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

remember that game we tossed around in here

where we attach different players’ limbs into a zombie creation of a player

this offseason feels like that

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, very few balls are going to get through

with that many guys in the infield.

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Jan 21, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Re :Lynn velocity

rt"@Kevin_Goldstein: @CodeeG He did. Lance Lynn went from a sinker to a 4-seam in 2010; new velo, new problem with home runs."

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 5:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

hurumph

Why did I not know of this earlier. . . now I have to watch video.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jan 21, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

he sounds like a completely different pitcher now.

At first i had him pegged as a Joe Blanton, now I’m not sure what to make of him,

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw him pitch 2x at memphis last season.

Never saw above 93 and he sat 90-91

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 6:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

When?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Bout to post this

It was early in the season…so with the poor results, he might have thought “fuck it” and just started throwing as hard as he fucking could at end of year

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 6:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Would explain the uncharacteristic peripherals

More k’s, more walks, more HR

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You would have thought WE would have heard about that kind of velocity jump, though.

That’s unsane.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

well going from a sinker to a four seam helps a lot also

Now I’m kind of excited to see if he can have a 9+ k/9 next year.

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by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Best rotation in MLB, bitches!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 7:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

93+ four seamer if he keeps the sinker at 89-91 he could be Brad Penny light.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Jan 21, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

So with these "additions" this offseason

have we actually improved?

Overall it seems like a bunch of lateral move that will work great as longs as nobody gets hurt… but last year’s team would have been great if nobody got hurt, too…

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

I'd say no.

Except Lance Berkman is going to have a monster almost MVP caliber year.

The Bloated Ocelot is here to save us. Nothing else we’ve done looks like an improvement to me. Though I’m hopeful that our bunch of surly jerks can be a little happier now that “annoying” Brendan Ryan is gone.

And thank heavens we haven’t traded Colby Rasmus. I was convinced he was gone this offseason.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jan 21, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Compared to last season,

Ludwick→ Berkman is lateral, but at this time last season our fourth starter was likely to be Lohse or KMac. We’ve gained at least two wins there. The middle infield basically can’t be worse than last season and we have another roll of the dice with Freese at third. That’s probably at least two more wins. Our bench looks similar to last year.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Jan 21, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Brad Penny, fourth starter

was really fucking good until he got hurt.

And how dare you dare the MIF to not be worse.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 22, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

MIF

Last year:

Schumaker = -0.2 WAR
Ryan = 1.0 WAR
Miles = 0.0 WAR

Total = .8 WAR

This year.
Schumaker = 0.6 (Bill James)
Theriot = 0.9 (Fans, no Bill James yet)
Punto = {nothing yet, but I would say a repeat of last years 1.4 is very possible)

Total = Be hard to be worse than 0.8; when Skip and Theroit are looking at being 1.5 by themselves.

Why do people hate Punto and like Ryan, besides the whole spinning/mustache/impressions thing?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 22, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Do people really hate the Punto move?

He’s a little older than Boog, but he’s cheaper and almost as good of a defender

It’s a lateral move, which is a good thing if the clubhouse thing is really as serious as the FO thinks

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 22, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Ladies and gentleman

introducing your new and possibly improved or maybe possibly worse but probably around about the same with hopefully a little more luck 2011 Cardinals!

by mattyp on Jan 22, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i got that impression

from reading through the comments when he signed. Not everyone, but it seemed to be the majority. Though it could just be that Mo didn’t add the 15-20 HR guy like he said he was. (ignore right field). Or that we signed an infielder not named pujols. Or that it’s freaking cold here in St. Louis and everyone is on edge.

I hate the cold.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 22, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I can agree with all of this.

If it isn’t baseball weather, then fuck it.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 22, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

IMO, people like Ryan because TLR does not.

People also like Ryan because they can pretend that people who don’t like Ryan don’t properly appreciate the value of defense, and that gives them some sort of exclusive insight into baseball that the hoi polloi (or, at least, what they perceive and want the hoi polloi to be) does not have.

And some like him just because he’s a character/funny/entertaining, like you said.

In any event, it is interesting to see that Punto’s and Ryan’s career wOBAs are the same (.293/.294) and that, at SS, Punto’s career UZR/150 is higher than Ryan’s (though with fewer chances). Ryan is 4.5 years younger so that’s big in his favor.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 22, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

the age difference is a factor

but I can’t weigh that when we have Punto on a one year deal for less than what we are paying Ryan for.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 22, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i like ryan

because he is entertaining to watch on the field. He makes ridiculous plays and has fun doing it.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jan 22, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

do you dislike punto?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 22, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

no, in fact

I suggested punto a couple years ago for a utility spot. I will hate watching another guy dive into first base though.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jan 22, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Nick Punto

but Ryan is by far the more entertaining and exciting player to me

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

same here.

I don’t care if TLR likes him or not. He plays great shortstop. I don’t think most people like or dislike Ryan based on what Tony thinks. I think, possibly, some people are a bit fickle when it comes to Ryan. Everybody (in general) raved about him until this last season when he struggled with the bat. That was enough for about half the people here to decide he was a liability while the other half still likes him. I still like him.
 If Ryan was a nuisance in the clubhouse then it’s Tony’s job to control that. I don’t think he tried very hard, and used it as an excuse to push him out. He’s not the first guy to ever annoy the rest of the team on a ballclub. Billy Martin was pretty damned annoying but management had the sense to keep him because he could play baseball.
 As far as Punto, I like the pickup. It’s probably a decent move, all things considered. And Theriot, I’m not against him but I’d rather see him at 2nd with Ryan at ss. But Ryan is history now. I just wonder who the next guy will be that gets on Tony’s shit list. I bet It won’t be one of the 20-25 HR guys, no matter how annoying he may be, unless he has a personal confrontation of some kind with Tony….something like Rolen.

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.

by Dave Pendleton on Jan 23, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't hate Punto

I’m glad they acquired him. but Ryan has more upside. perhaps they just wanted to save $, and I guess that worked out. Ryan has less info to prove that he can’t hit. we are sure that Punto can’t hit though.

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 22, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

he's long dead

so I’m not sure how he helps us, though a merrily-costumed skeleton might help in the clubhouse I suppose.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jan 21, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I love going through my old baseball links

98 errors out of your starting shortstop. hell, i think i’ll go back to this page when i need cheering up after thinking of our MIF this season

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

majorleaguetraderumors doesn't exist.

so your fake link was pulled off terribly.

EH #2
SIGN ALBERT!!!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jan 21, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

damn it!

how did i forget the mlbtraderumors bit.

effin zoomzoom!

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

What the fuck is going on in baseball right now

@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Blue Jays’ Vernon Wells heading to #Angels in Napoli trade. #MLB

1) Who the fuck wants that contract

2) The Blue Jays have Arrencibia… why trade for Napoli?

3) WAT

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

It's like a random The Show trade!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Best rotation in MLB, bitches!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 6:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

no

Phillies>Giants

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Thought I'd be more recognizable than that

[volsncards5 realizes he’s not the blog all-star he thought he was, weeps]

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 7:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

don't get down

it’s only Cody

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I apologize

can i still get that autograph?

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Wat?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 7:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

avatar

i don’t even look at names half the time.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean I can remember posters by name

it’s just way easier associating the poster with a name/avatar.

there’s so many non-avatar guys it’s sometimes diffcult to keep up with sometime.

i’m sure you guys would be going WTF? if i changed my avatar.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually do need to get av

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yea

Cards with cain>phillies

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 7:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Holy hell!

2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!

by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Move Tori back to center possibly?

2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!

by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Twitter Snark

“It’s the rare trade that makes a team older, more expensive and worse.”

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

too soon

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

TIME FOR SOME HOPSLAM

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I wemt through all my Bell's last night

gonna start on a friend’s homebrew tonight

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a good thing I'm wearing pants right now.

This beer is that good!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i am so finding that beer tomorrow

even if i have to go to st louis to get it

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Bobby Abreu says hi.

Unless they DH him…?

2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!

by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

From what MLB Network is reporting

Wells in center with Abreu at DH. They expect the Angels to sign a Podsednik type to lead off and play left.

2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!

by mtzxc on Jan 21, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

lol wut

Enter vivaelpujols
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by hazel on Jan 21, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

ahhahahahaha...

$61 million for Wells, GMjr, Abreu, and Torii does not buy a warm body for left field. Wow.

Sign Carl Pavano!!!

by guayzimi on Jan 21, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

more mistakes by codyg

he really sucks at this stuff.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Better for the Bluejays

they have the DH/1b and that Dinger park of theirs.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

any personality issues involved?

because without that the Brendan Ryan trade would make absolutely no sense

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 21, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Except Mathis grades average to below on defense,

so he was basically playing the shittier player of baseball.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Jan 21, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah no cash is mentioned in either team's press release

LOLOLOLOL ANGELS

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone send this to Punto

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 6:53 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

RIP RUBBERBAND MAN

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 7:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yep

http://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Rosenthal/status/28606383570034689

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

God that's a terrible trade

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you serious?

It’s clearly the Blue Jays right now

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Juan Rivera's comfortably a Type-B. The Jays are going to get a draft pick out of this too.

I wasn’t 6, I was just stating how confused i am by all the movement/

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Fairly positive article at Fangraphs re: Punto

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/true-utility-nick-punto/

As the expected replacement for Descalso’s roster spot, I don’t hate the move. I would expect the Cards’ 25-man roster to be set now, other than perhaps a fight for the spot Salas presumably holds as the last man in the bullpen.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 21, 2011 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

12 pitchers

Yadi
Laird
Albert
Skip
Punto
Theriot
Freese
Holliday
Rasmus
Berkman
Jay
Craig

So either I’m missing someone or there is still one spot to fight over (come on Greene!) or they go 13 pitchers (puke).

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

that

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

is

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

12

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

what the fuck are you talking about?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

I need to eat… ignore this.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I normally do!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

good

just watch my gifs and ignore all that talky talk i do sometimes.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I counted earlier the spots with greene and it was 12

and then i counted your list without realizing greene was on there.
so the subject line didn’t make sense to me.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I assumed Greene was on the roster (and personally think he's a given).

He’s the best defender, baserunner, and only MIF who has power. Plus he could play the outfiled if really needed (he’s certainly got the physical talent to do it).

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 21, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

so a jay vs. greene vs. craig competition seems a given then.

though I think TLR might just start the year with 12 pitchers until it’s clear one needs called up.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

if common sense prevails

how is there room for Jay on the roster?

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

how was there room for stav last year

when there was already 5 OF on the 25?

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think TLR will roster 13 pitchers unless

there’s all kinds of injuries to the starters after spring training.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 21, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think there will be a "long man" per se

Remember that Tallet can even serve as a long man given his extensive starting experience.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 21, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

ahh right, tallet

kmac i was thinking, then i dismissed it because TLR probably would like him more in the later innings.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

all three of them could easily make it

as long as it’s a 7 man bullpen.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I love Greene

but I’d really like to have a bigger bat of the bench than his. he’s just the one with options left, so if there’s a question about anyone, i figured he’d be the first to go.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

slash platoon player, yeah.

But I want more than one!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

We could have had Manny be that guy

for less than we are paying Skip!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Manny will rack up numbers hitting everyday as a DH for some AL team.

But yes, it’d be nice to have another power bat on the bench. The day Skippy, Theriot, and Punto man the infield (with Jay in the OF and Laird behind the plate), I will die a little death.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 21, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Greene is probably more valuable to the roster than jay is though

Greene can hit dingers and catch balls in the OF and scoop them in the IF>

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

So basically

He should be starting

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 7:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

let's not get crazy!

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I've always been on the Tyler Greene bandwagon so I think so.

I’d like to see:
1. Theriot/Skip platoon at 2B
2. Berkman
3. Pujols
4. Holliday
5. Rasmus
6. Freese (or Craig if Freese is hurt, or Punto if Freese is hurt and Craig’s defense is unplayable)
7. Greene
8. Yadi
9. Pitcher

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 21, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I like it.

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Any chance that Benji Molina comes on board?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jan 22, 2011 3:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Does this mean the Angels can no longer afford Pujols next year

since they’re paying Vernon Wells 23$ million frigging dollars?

by oplaid on Jan 21, 2011 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

Have there been any reports about $ in the deal?

I’d assume Toronto is paying some of that salary.

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing definitive, I don't think

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

New Tweet
Just heard Angels may not be getting any money from Jays in Wells deal. Not cast in stone, but pointing that way.

From ShiDavidi (no idea who that is)

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

That's fucking nuts.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Jan 21, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

I didn’t know the Angels GM was a fucking moron

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 22, 2011 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

depends on the friggin to regular exchange rate

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Jan 21, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

so who will pass me in number of comments?

I think someone will eventually. how many people have more comments I wonder? eegads it really is one of the worst parts of the offseason. the Pujols contract will attain Alfred Hitchcock levels of suspense at some point in the near future.

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 21, 2011 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

Y2S

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

GDM

that’s all that comes to minds

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

those were my guesses… although both have been a little less prolific. I think it’ll be Y2S though

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 21, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm at a loss

it’s definitely 3rd favorite, according to Chrome. facebook #1, google #2. I’m so predictable.

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 21, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm an idiot.

I’ve been using that screen forever and never figured out why pages appeared there. Facepalm.

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

BUT

to reflect better on me, VEB is 6th from all my lurking.

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

you can pick which SBN site is your favorite in your profile

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, you joined VEB about 10 days befor I did

 And you have 38,725 more comments than I do. Well done

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 10:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not well-done

he has diarrhea of the fingers. He’s OCD – if he doesn’t type something every five seconds, he has to touch something else.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Holy. Fucking. Christ.

That team is STACKED

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

HEY GUYS CHECK OUT THIS LINEUP

Damon
Zobrist
Manny
Longoria
Joyce
Dan Johnson
BJ Upton
Reid Brignac
John Jaso

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

There is little chance that lineup is meh

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets take a look

Damon: Good, but he’s not getting any younger
Zobeast: hope 2010 was an aberration and that he can play like 2009
Manny: Manny, is manny is manny, He could be great or he could play like he did for the white sox.
Longo: AWESOME
Joyce: Yet to prove he’s any good in a full season
Dan Johnson: The Rays cannot afford to get that sort of production out of 1st base if they want to get to the playoffs
Upton: Is unpredictable (at best)
Brignac: who knows?
Jaso: who knows?

I think they are very dependent on what Jennings, Hellickson and Davies can do nest season.

by Aranathor on Jan 21, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends

If Manny feels like playing for the Rays this season, or gives up halfway through

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 21, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm... i quit for the day

I could’ve swore encarnacion was on the rays.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

KYLE FARNSWORTH IS MAKING MORE MONEY THAN MANNY RAMIREZ

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather have the professor than Schumaker.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

holy shit

$2MM for manny? wtf, mo?

we could get him at least 162 PAs for that

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jan 21, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Damon/Manny were a package deal

That’s the rumor going around Twitter

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

rofl

buy one, get one half off boras special

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jan 21, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I really dislike Manny

and how he plays. I can’t be the only one.

by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 21, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like that he's one of the top 5 or 10 right handed hitters of all time

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Its like someone distilled the eighties and put them in a shot of vodka

distilled eighties

Also, good night folks. Anyone else want to see fritz in bootcamp shorts?
Laters

by Aranathor on Jan 21, 2011 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

how can i look up team defeff

for cards and reds last year?
help the newb!

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

defeff?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure what you mean?

Like, UZR?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

it's a team thing

“Def Eff: Defensive efficiency. It’s the rate at which balls put into play are converted into outs by a team’s defense. Can be approximated with (1 – BABIP).”

I found the answer.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2010-standard-fielding.shtml#teams_standard_fielding

one can sort by defeff

by a fink on Jan 21, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

this post has got to have the record for people calling my 'name'

online, that is.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

i like to go on BCB

right after something devastating has happened and act like a cubs fan. something like this

“hey, guys! just got home from work! we still kickin’ ass?”

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jan 21, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

it is the neighborly thing to do

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would the Brewers care what the cubs are doing?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

yes

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 22, 2011 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

in fact the money quote
This trade doesn’t even deserve the dignity of a formal analysis. The Angels voluntarily vacated about three or four wins next season while simultaneously boosting their payroll by nearly $10 million. Sure he had weaknesses, but Mike Napoli was the second-best offensive player on the 2010 Angels, and light-years better than Jeff Mathis. And even though Wells outperformed Juan Rivera last year, the two of them have been virtually identical hitters over the last four seasons. Wells may play center field for awhile, but if Torii Hunter’s recent performance there was unsatisfactory, then he will find himself in Juan’s old corner soon enough.

with the headline, “Angels Release Mike Napoli, Sign Juan Rivera To Four-Year, $86 Million Extension”

Wow HH sounds like a pretty good blog (although I do remember them ripping on Pineiro after one baaaad start)

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 22, 2011 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

NAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOLLIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!

I remember our interleague series with the Halos this past season, and recall Napoli kick-fucking us into submission. Aaaand B-R confirms: In that 3 game series, albeit representing a measly 13 PAs, he slugged 1.333 and was approaching a 2.0 OPS.

by mattyp on Jan 22, 2011 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

wow

God Mike Sciosca is a fucking idiot

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 22, 2011 2:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Scott Spiezio, Cody Ross, Shane Victorino, Dustin Pedroia

What do these guys have in common? All were the scrappy (dare I say, gritty) sparkplugs who helped propel their teams to World Series wins. This is an area where I see our team woefully lacking. Who is going to step up to fill this roll?

by peppermartin on Jan 21, 2011 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

wut

Sign Carl Pavano!!!

by guayzimi on Jan 21, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

flagged!

seriously, did you just call for more grit?

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

the only thing pedroia and spiezio have in common

Is a high vowel to consonant ratio in their last names.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Jan 22, 2011 1:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

sadly, i think you are serious

Pedroia is even on the same planet as the others – He’s a really good short white guy so people call him gritty and scrappy

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 22, 2011 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

i meant of course he shouldn't be called gritty

short and white though has a perk where writers have to call you an underdog and scrappy

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 22, 2011 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I feel their pain:

http://www.halosheaven.com/2011/1/21/1949321/angels-release-mike-napoli-sign-juan-rivera-to-four-year-86-million

Sadly, it’s all too real. While it’s still uncertain how many Canadian dollars (if any) the Blue Jays will pack into Mom’s Attic when Vernon Wells rents his U-Haul next month, make no mistake. They’re popping corks and smoking Cubans in Toronto tonight. Alex Anthopoulos has done the impossible.

It’s sad when a team does this to the fans.

Sign Carl Pavano!!!

by guayzimi on Jan 21, 2011 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

2 recs to go green over there?

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I seriously don't understand what on God's green earth possesses someone to deal for Vernon Wells and his abominable abomination of a contract.

It’s like paying someone to kick you in the nuts really hard.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jan 21, 2011 10:05 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

If the Angels had gotten Wells straight up, and just paid the contract, it would've been a bad deal

They give up two decent players up in the deal as well!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

WAIT! The Blue Jays are giving up $5 million in the deal now

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Now they the angels can afford pujols

DAMMIT!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 10:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

OH MA GAWD

That’s a dealbreaker.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jan 21, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

no money involved

http://twitter.com/BillShaikin/status/28651167554740224

#BlueJays GM Anthopoulos confirms #Angels picking up all $86 million on Wells contract.

http://twitter.com/BillShaikin/status/28658460392427522


#Angels GM Reagins confirms #BlueJays sent no money in Wells trade

by Green Baloons on Jan 21, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

At least we aren't the Angels guys....

Could be worse….

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jan 21, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

this is a classic case of doing something just to do it

and why when people say “they need to do something, anything,” they deserve to get punched in the nuts

doing nothing is better than doing something desperate or in this case utterly, ridiculously, unbelievably, out-of-this-world insane, unanimously lauded, and causing your fans physical, emotional, and metaphorical grief

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 22, 2011 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

same with the Yanks signing Soriano and jettisoning a 1st round pick for it

Cashman even came out and said he wasn’t on board, but that little Stein insisted on some move just for appearance’s sake. Yeah, I’m with you: no move is waaaayyyy better than a bad move.

by mattyp on Jan 22, 2011 2:37 AM EST up reply actions  

although I question your word use in your post

“metaphorical” grief….unanimously “lauded”…? Huh. But now I’m just being picky.

by mattyp on Jan 22, 2011 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

damnit

for some reason i literally thought lauded was the exact opposite of what it actually meant

metaphorical was just for kicks

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 22, 2011 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Remember the beating scene in Dirty Harry? Comes to mind after the above. . . .Nice Taskmaster

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jan 22, 2011 3:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone wonder where formerly prolific commenters go

Hardcore legend, clemsongirl, adiueordie, cloustermaximus, fourstick to name a few.

Some of these may still post, but not with the frequency of the past. Maybe the real world got in the way…damn the real world

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

RIP Boog. FIRE TLR NOW

by VolsnCards5 on Jan 21, 2011 10:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

because your face

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

f'in zoomzoom

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 21, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

cardball

adiueordie just posted today

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

cardball?

you mean wcbw

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

he pretty much conceded when spants accused him of such crimes

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

not to my knowledge

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I highly doubt cardball was wcbw

cardball may have been a bit unorthodox at times, but his posting never approached the warped logic only explainable by some kind of Phineas Gage like accident that typified WCBW’s posts.

by mattyp on Jan 21, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

...

cardball may have been a bit unorthodox annoyed the hell out of me at times,

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

. . .

cardball may have been a bit unorthodox annoyed the hell out of me at times,

better?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jan 21, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

if cardball was wcbw he did a much better job of hiding it than the first time he ban-evaded

cardball’s IPs trace back to louisiana, which I think is where he said he lived, while wbcw was somewhere in california.

by DanUpBaby on Jan 22, 2011 5:38 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont think so

i think he got banned

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jan 22, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

Baseball is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole.

by Dave Pendleton on Jan 23, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm...

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Jan 23, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

who the fuck cares...

I’m glad those assholes are all gone. I dare any of them to post a single word.

Sign Carl Pavano!!!

by guayzimi on Jan 21, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I was gunna say: Since when was cgirly an asshole.

But I see what you’re trying to do.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 22, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Fourstick had a baby and migrated to twitter.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Jan 21, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

fourstick restricitng himself to 41 chracters stikes me as funny

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jan 21, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

i think HL doesn't post as much

due to a combination of the hate for TLR grinding on him, and the “quality of comments” lowering down here on VEB. The Steelers being really good also would help I’d imagine.

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 22, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

he also said he wasn't going to be here as much

for personal reasons, iirc

Skip Schumaker fields like a goat wearing capes

by mattyfrommo on Jan 22, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice avatar.

If you don't want my foot on your throat, I'll need to hear the safe word.

by spants on Jan 22, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

OT so i caught part of the Mars-themed Nova

and got to the prototype for the mechanically pressurized suit. ten years of research and not yet mission-ready.

as soon as they said it was only being produced in ladies sizes, I said, What is she gonna do about the dudes’ junk?

that might take another ten years.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 21, 2011 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Just got done watching The Town

VEP is right. While not boring, per se, really predictable. I’m not sure why anyone would give it any critical acclaim, it’s essentially this decade’s The Rock.

Also, Hollywood, we get it, Boston! Remember how you did Chicago in the 80’s and how there hasn’t been a real Chicago movie since The Fugitive (you don’t count, Gotham)? Don’t do that to Boston now. Back off, you’re smothering!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

it's not a movie but

The League is set in Chicago

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

oh there are random things

but nothing compares to the john hughes/perfect strangers/family matters glory years.

They really used the shit out of that city.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Was there ever another show besides the John Larroquette Show from the mid-90's

that was based in the Lou?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

the Sci Fi channel seems to love us.

excellent on-location shots of STL destruction (with terrible CG); refreshing after we were snubbed by the Independence Day aliens.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

What show(s)?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

some of their tv movies

of which one finds titles such as

Stonehenge Apocalypse
Yeti: Curse of the Snow Demon
Mansquito
Sharktopus
Flu Bird Horror
Chupacabra: Dark Seas
Puppet Master vs Demonic Toys
Frankenfish

… so I don’t quite recall.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2011 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

wiki

says

“Lucas Tanner” … in Webster. one-and-done season. plot sounds like Kotter precursor

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jan 22, 2011 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Man, I'm so old

I actually do remember that show; I was 16 when that aired in ’74.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 22, 2011 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

the Break-Up was in Chicago and featured it prominently

although if I were a Chicagoan, I’d try to sweep any connection with that movie under the rug.

by mattyp on Jan 21, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

a friend and i were talking about that movie tonight

i’ve never seen it but he said the Skylark bar is in it, which is pretty close to my hood

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jan 21, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

an now I just got done with Middle Men

see, that’s how you do a light hearted non-threatening movie. With shit tons of boobs!

Up next tonight: The Way Back! Yay Siberia! Yay India!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 22, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

what's a better MIF?

Boog/skip
Theriot/Punto
Punto/Theriot

The highlight of my baseball career came in Philadelphia's Connie Mack Stadium when I saw a fan fall out of the upper deck. When he got up and walked away, the crowd booed.
--Bob Uecker

by Hootie Who on Jan 21, 2011 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

c?

or all of the above?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jan 21, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Punto/Theriot is the best defense.

Boog/Skip could be the most talented.

Enter vivaelpujols
My great wit allows me to interject that by assuming the partakers of this conversation are inbedded and perhaps romantically entangled, rather than indeed, the truthful observation that they are both platonic and standing upright. Great comedy may be produced!! -Aranathor

by hazel on Jan 21, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

First game a long, long time ago Marty Marion and Red.

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jan 22, 2011 3:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Greene/Punto

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 22, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

and they're still paying Gary Matthews Jr...

$52 million next year for Torii, GMjr, and Wells. I’d be mad as all hell if I were Arte Moreno.

Sign Carl Pavano!!!

by guayzimi on Jan 21, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

he did that himself though

So he might be happy with himself

DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!

by stlcardsfan4 on Jan 22, 2011 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

so does punto have a good split vs. lefties to warrant a platoon?

also I find it dumb that it’s even being discussed to platoon colby/greene when there’s already skip at second sucking it up.

I am still the Batman ,David Freese .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jan 21, 2011 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

There is literally no split

.242/.323/.321 as a LHB
.256/.318/.322 as a RHB

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 21, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

So let's figure out what's up with Skippy

His swing looks pretty solid mechanically, so I think his biggest problem is his eye and maybe his approach.

This looks like a problem with balls outside, and perhaps a tendency to try to pull them (and roll over them).

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Jan 22, 2011 12:29 AM EST reply actions  

heh, balls

pulling balls

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jan 22, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

It's a skill.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 22, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

His swing seems long to me

Can you confirm?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jan 22, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Kinda weird

Once his swing gets going, it’s really short, but it takes a long time to get going (because of the leaky back elbow).

4.5 frames from first hand movement, which is good, but 7+ frames from first barrel movement, which is bad.

Reminds me of Pedro Feliz.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Jan 22, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Basically, his swing is back arm dominant

Pretty common flaw due to trying to pull the knob.

It’s all academic, but kind of sad nonetheless.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Jan 22, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

PULL THE KNOB

Stand inside an empty tuxedo with grapes in my mouth, waiting for Ada
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jan 22, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

do you know if it was like this

before the wrist injury?

I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill

by Evilfrog on Jan 22, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Another strange baseball dream that may expose l a huge character flaw

for whatever reason, the Cubs decided to relocate their stadium to my dad’s farm in SW Missouri. I have to admit that I was really pumped that the Cubs decided to move there, but found myself divided in my loyalty to the Cards. What do you do?

by peppermartin on Jan 22, 2011 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

If you build it ...

The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Jan 22, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

But that was about dead baseball players.

Wait……I think I just got the confusion in your subconscious.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 22, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Elite 1st baseman signs contract extension

Sorry, its Billy Butler

Seems like a fairly good deal for the Royals, would like to see the contract breakdown, but buying out a FA year is always a good thing for a young player like Butler.

by Aranathor on Jan 22, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

Just practicing

Shiny and New Albert Pujols!

"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.

by pattimagee on Jan 27, 2011 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

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