Colby Rasmus, Tony La Russa celebrate Labor Day by not quitting
by DanUpBaby on Sep 7, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintClubhouse machinations have a symbiotic relationship with soul-crushing losing streaks; if you don't believe me I only wish you could see the internal numbers on SB Nation St. Louis. Cardinals traffic there fell steadily down from post-Brandon-Phillips highs until, bestill Google News's beating heart, Colby Rasmus and Tony La Russa each asked Albert Pujols to serve as second in an upcoming duel and it spiked again. I'm not claiming anybody's pulling the strings to make sure something interesting happens when the team refuses to be interesting; I'm arguing that's when it becomes interesting.
The Cardinals fall below a minimum interest threshold and it becomes extremely apparent, and suddenly more interesting than baseball, that Colby Rasmus and Tony La Russa don't like each other very much.
So the Cardinals win two of three from the Reds, take an improbable game from the Brewers—Yadier Molina has now driven in 15 runs with his five home runs—and suddenly Colby Rasmus and Tony La Russa deny having ever established a blood-tontine for the DeWitt millions. (Colby, I love you, but never trust a Sicilian when death is on the line. Especially you, and especially him.) I'd prefer the team continues to be interesting this way; fewer Google Trends spikes—for maximum exposure Colby Rasmus should consider dating the Bachelorette, from what I can gather—and more consistently entertaining, discussable games.
One thing worth discussing: This second-half offense would look shockingly bad if Yadier Molina had continued to scuffle as he had in the first. With Rasmus struggling the offense has been incredibly top-heavy—Pujols and Holliday both have OPSes over .900; only Jon Jay has an OPS over .800, and just barely; and Molina and Skip Schumaker, who both brought up the rear in the first half, are alone with an OPS over .700.
Each of them isn't doing anything more than repeating his 2009 numbers, which should bring me pause when it comes time to give my middle-of-the-road predictions to the Maple Street Annual people in 2011.
Oh, while I'm on the page, name the two Cardinals tied for third on the team in home runs since the All-Star Break.
Tomorrow's palatability will be entirely dependent on Kyle Lohse's right forearm. Since coming back he's gotten vaporized on balls in play—.388—but his numbers haven't been so great independent of them, either, so I have no idea what to think. He's looked bad, but it's impossible to look good when you're giving up hits at a .400 average. It's impossible to not look bad, over three starts.
So in the short term the Cardinals can only hope to continue the era of good feeling if Lohse behaves; but the long-term, such as one is left, is also dependent on his balky arm. Without Kyle Lohse there's his opposite number, Jeff Suppan, who's somehow skirted replacement level despite hitting the exact 1.0 K:BB ratio, 3.6 per nine innings, where he's not striking out anybody and is also kind of walking a lot of batters.
Watching Kyle Lohse is frustrating because it's a look into the future—the Cardinals have two more years with him, and every bad start he makes today makes it seem more fantastic to believe he'll ever be useful again. That's bad, but Jeff Suppan, to my mind, is worse; watching Jeff Suppan is frustrating because there's no future.
I understood the move at the time; the Cardinals were deep in competition, expected two starters back in the near term, and in the meantime had no minor leaguers available who were even clearly replacement level. In September the Cardinals don't have anybody to look forward to, unless we all spontaneously remember Brad Penny exists—it's like losing The Game [like I, and now you, just did], only depressing—and at least Blake Hawksworth might plausibly be Jeff Suppan next year. They're still in the race, but there's no time and nothing to triage with Suppan anymore—they're just... still in the race, with Jeff Suppan in the rotation.
My skin crawls. And that is why I'll be rooting very hard for Kyle Lohse tonight.
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"Ernie Hayes is up there playing with his organ again." - Mike Shannon
by Heisenberg on Sep 7, 2010 7:27 AM EDT reply actions 12 recs
and now we know why colby strikes out so much
waino is willing him to with his mind
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
what's the context of this picture
I wonder
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
hey colby
you’ve got a hanger… let me get it for you
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
hey colby
you got a hanger… let me get it for you
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I see it more as an Iceman/Maverick moment...
“You’re dangerous.”
by Ghostrider520 on Sep 7, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
this is disturbing
both the main post and the first comment are exhibiting a deplorable inclination to treat the LaRussa/Rasmus story with humour.
This could be the beginning of the end for journalism as we know it.
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
This is fitting as the Cards are ... All Along the Watchtower
There’s too much confusion,
I can’t get no relief when Franklin takes the hill,
Reporters, they drink my wine,
Grounds crew dig my earth.
None of them along the line
Know what any of it is worth.
No reason to get excited,
Colby he kindly spoke.
There are many here among us (I’m looking at you Strauss)
Who feel that life is but a joke.
But Tony and Colby, we’ve been through that, (see Edmonds and Rolen)
And this is not our fate.
So let us not talk falsely now,
The hour is getting late.
by jjray on Sep 7, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
make it green, dammit
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 7, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
This isn't very good.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 7, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
ten
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
"There must be some kind of way out of here,"
"There must be some kind of way out of here,"
Said the joker to the thief.
I want to make one point...
…Colby Rasmus is much like a young Jim Edmonds when he played for the Angles. Supremely talented, a bit moody, very streaking, somewhat fragile…remember that the Angles were so fed up with him that they were willing to trade him for Kent Bottenfield before he blossomed into a potential HOFer. Lets not be the Angles here.
That said…Larussa’s time is short. People worried that we will not find another manager as good need to chill. The most talented people in baseball want to work for this organization…there are plenty of canidates.
Yes we are not stuck with
Jose “hold the speedy runner at third with the tying run on a ball hit into no man’s land in a must win game” Oquendo
I just don't want Duncan leaving
He has a big positive impact on this team, every year, no matter what anyone says
I find this meme tiring
Is Dave Duncan the only good pitching coach around? Is he irreplaceable? Why? Everyone’s ready to get rid of La Russa but only with the proviso that we keep Duncan around. There are lots of good pitching coaches out there some of whom (gasp!) might even be better than Dave Duncan. (Don Cooper and Mike Maddux come to mind immediately.) This organization, one would hope, is capable of finding a good manager as well as a good pitching coach. Of course, I’m not positive this organization is capable of finding a good GM so I’m willing to concede I might be wrong about the manager and pitching coach as well.
by chuckb on Sep 7, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Duncan's track record is pretty impressive, you have to admit
Fire Tony La Russa
by vivaelpujols on Sep 7, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd keep Dunc just for his draw on otherwise impossibly expensive starting pitchers.
The Cards are like a destination wedding or something.
But to be fair, it’s more Dunc and Marty Mason.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Marty Mason
Will probably be our next pitching coach…and he deserves as he is highly qualified.
he sure is big enough
some of it is perception, though. Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright continuing the bullpen sessions: check. Yadier Molina eviscerating offenses as long as his knees hold out: check.
but will pitchers believe that the entire package is enough to replace the Pitcher Whisperer? it may not matter what we know.
also, someone mentioned that it depends on whether or not Dunc signs on somewhere else. if he does, then that’s a helllllll nooooo to Dunc leaving.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
IMO, it's all about DD's book.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the binders...!
i hear carp had a lot of time to read those.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
isn't DD the gameplan man though?
from what i understand Marty Mason is more involved with the mechanics than Dunc is. So is Carp, he’s supposed to be real good at identifying flaws or changes in delivery.
Duncan is the chessmaster that brings it all together
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
apparently, yes
the whole trouble is it’s so behind-closed-doors intangibles that none of us really know the extent of it.
but I have a guess that it would be a huge mistake to underestimate that effect, especially given the long, long list of people (read: pitchers) who swear by Dunc.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i agree
who does what is irrelevant as long as you can slap the name of Dave Duncan on it, pitchers will be willing to come here for less
it might be time to start phasing the emphasis on Dunc out and throwing in some of the other names that contribute out there for people to know
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
I conceded that
but he isn’t irreplaceable. If he chooses to leave, so be it. We’ll find someone else. I refuse to believe he’s the only one capable of doing that job well.
if it's a package deal
of Tony and Duncan, let them walk. But don’t terminate Duncan without exploring his willingness to stay with a new manager, contingent on the new manager having the hiring decision. IIRC, Angelos forced one of his managers to work with Ray Miller, who came in second for the new manager position.
by ubeddie on Sep 7, 2010 10:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
is he really attached to Tony's hip?
if he is, then too bad. we make do without him. times change.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it implausible we could promote Marty Mason and get the same results?
I’d hope that, if Mason stays, there’s nothing special about Duncan’s abilities that he wouldn’t be able to replicate, having worked with him for years.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 7, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
That's like saying
that the Lakers should just promote Frank Hamblin, I mean, he’s only worked with Phil Jackson for the last 20 years, so he ought to know everything Phil knows, right?
It just doesn’t work that way.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I dunno
isn’t Jackson a great psychologist, basketball an actual team game (rather than an individual sport masquerading as a team game) requiring interplay and complex strategy between individuals, and Jackson especially good in those areas? I’m not sure it’s a valid analogy.
AFAIK Duncan’s success has been built upon preaching a moving fastball down in the zone, challenging hitters, and exemplary gameplan/specific planning for individual opponents/overall philosophy? I’d have thought that those areas could be applied, at least to some extent, by someone who’s worked with the guy for years. Maybe Mason and Duncan have their own specific qualities in the relationship (as Wyo suggests below) but I guess I’m not convinced that Dunc has some specific pixie dust, rather that the organisational approach of the Cardinals pitching coaching, under Duncan, has done a good job. Perhaps it’s possible to do so without him.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 7, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
…Duncan and Mason have co-authored the book on their mantra. The only thing that concerns me is will Marty Mason demand the same level of respect from veteran pitchers as Duncan?
why does your spell check make mistakes bold?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Sep 7, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Isn't it the general thought
that Mason is the “mechanics” guy and Dunc is the “pitching philosophy” guy?
Without Duncan
perhaps the Cardinals will quit Dumpster-diving in hopes that the next Brett Tomko, Kip Wells, Todd Wellemeyer, Jeff Weaver, Jeff Suppan or Jason Marquis can be spun into Chris Carpenter gold.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 7, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
good point
Chris Carpenter for Manager
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker, on Jason Motte
Who are these Angles you speak of?
Not that it wouldn’t be cool to have a team named after a geometric definition, especially if they played in a park that was parabolic and concentrated all sound on the opposing teams bullpen or something.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Not that Angle
This one. The Angles migrated to California from central Europe in the post-Roman Ball period. Their rivals include the Pictsburgh Pirates, the New York Franks, the Minnesota Teutons, and the dreaded Chicago White Saxons.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 7, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
nicely done
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 7, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Pictsburgh Pirates is my favorite.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
that is superb!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 7, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually saw that on Wikipedia
Um, I mean, I totally didn’t use Wikipedia to remember other Germanic tribes, I totally did that off the top of my head!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I lost it at White Saxons
Green dat
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
by lunchboxbomb on Sep 7, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know that telling Tony La Russa that he's a young Jim Edmonds is a good thing or a bad thing.
Tony and Edmonds had their differences as well, and from what I remember, it had to do with La Russa’s constant lineup meddling.
As Joe Posnanski so eloquently put it after watching our club over the weekend, perhaps the entire Cardinal Nation is experiencing some “familiarity annoyance”.
Is it truly that? Or does it have more to do with a growing chasm between the organization’s road map and the road map of a 66 year old manager who really likes getting his way?
“If there’s a fork in the road, take it.” — Yogi Berra
As quaint and crazy as that quote sounds, that’s how I feel about our organizational philosophy these days. The right hand knows what the left hand is doing but doesn’t want to be forward looking like the left hand, so it just gets pissed off when asked questions pertaining to the left-handedness of the organization.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
The only thing wrong with using that quote is
that, in Yogi’s case, it was going to take you to the same place either way you went. Not so with the Cards and TLR, there’s no way TLR ends up in the WS with his way of doing things, unless the team manages to do it in spite of TLR’s meddling. And that’s the one place the Cards want to get to.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 7, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
The alternative definition of that quote, though,
is “trying to do two different things at the same time, leading to dissolution of focus and an overall clusterfuck at some point”. Which I think is exactly what this 2010 campaign represents.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Sep 7, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bingo!
Give that man a seegar!
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 7, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
this is the best i could do
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Yeah, I have a Twitter...big whoop...wanna fight about it?
by nomar34 on Sep 7, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
close enough.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 7, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
there was no problem with Edmonds and Tony
until after Edmonds was a Cub.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
This is simply not true. It's revisionist history.
Edmonds hated having to sit every 10 days due to Tony’s lineup machinations and said so numerous times early in his Cardinal career. Only after he was banged up considerably for a couple seasons in a row did he see the light of taking some days off every couple weeks to stay healthy.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
EVERYONE has an issue with sitting 10 days
feel free to dig up something that suggests Tony and Edmonds did not get along while Edmonds was here in his prime.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I'm not just making this shit up.
There were various reports on this in both the 2000 and 2001 seasons and even as late as 2003, when the club was struggling at times, the issues between Edmonds and La Russa would make the papers.
I can’t find anything right now, because all the Google searches and STLToday searches give me 900 links to the bullshit from 2008.
If you want to keep revising history though, go right ahead. I’m not going to stop you.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
The other problem with the P-D website is that they don't allow stories older than several months to be viewed for free on their website.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
You and I have had various discussions about the Edmonds/Rasmus comparison...
Am I totally off base here? I’m positive that JEd and Tony had issues about the way Tony does things over the years and that Edmonds always came off as a prima donna because TLR is just better at handling the press than Jim ever was.
I feel like the same thing is going on here with Colby, and that if we’re not careful, we’ll end up getting a Kent Bottenfield in return for him.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I think this is a valid concern.
A lot of the criticisms of Rasmus remind me of what I have read about a young Edmonds. I remember reading some Straussian pieces on some friction there, but can’t find any P-D articles because of the newspaper’s archaic archives policy. TLR is very good at framing the rift in the manager-player relationship between he and players. I think Strauss is complicit in this. (Ex: Strauss reports on the trade request and TLR confirms it. The GM and player both deny it. Curious, no?) In fact, the current situation reminds me of another MV3 member: Scott Rolen. I fear that I hear the subway train of inevitability bearing down on us and that TLR will make a statement at his Winter Meetings press conference that puts the organization in a box where they have no choice but to trade Rasmus for what will likely be $.75 on the dollar or less.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
so....kent bottenfield then.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Kent Bottenfield *and* Adam Kennedy.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
KILL ME NOW.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
being like the angles in this situation would be rather obtuse
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 7, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That's just not right.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
by TBender on Sep 7, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But it is an acute observation.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Sep 7, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hypotenuse or not hypotenuse
that is the question
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Obtuse you say?
Fire Tony La Russa
by vivaelpujols on Sep 7, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I f'ing love VEB.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 7, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
but not like that
right?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Well, that would be a rather difficult position.
Wait…….ummm, what was the question?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 7, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Be careful about throwing around "obtuse"...
It could get you a month in solitary at Shawshank.
by mike-h on Sep 7, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Apologies if this was previously discussed
But this quote from Leach the other day says so much about the terrible roster construction this year:
The Cardinals have five players currently on their roster who have at least 350 plate appearances this year and an OPS below 700. That’s the most of any National League team and tied with the A’s for the most in baseball. Aside from the Cards, in the National League, only the Padres even have more than two such players.
And yet, despite that...
…the Cards remain simply middle of the road in runs scored (8th in the NL) rather than down in the bottom tier. Just goes to show how good (mostly) Pujols and (to a somewhat lesser extent Holliday are, I suppose.
And Rasmus, when on a hot streak.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
wouldn't you say Rasmus pretty much breaks even on himself
if you’re going to add the caveat of “when on a hot streak” wouldn’t he then hurt the team when he’s not “on a hot streak”?
And I have a hard time with simply looking at his numbers and just making them equal for the entire season. When he’s hot he really produces. Which is great, but there are others who also produce at the same time, typically. However, when he’s not (and he’s such a big part of the offense), his absense really makes an impact.
I’d almost argue that his impact to the lineup is greater when he’s either out or simply not hitting than it is when he’s on a hot streak. But that might be a little unfair.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I think it is unfair.
What I meant to say is that Rasmus on a hot streak is producing on a level at or above Holliday or Pujols. That being said, Rasmus’s OPS for 2010 is about .850 and his wOBA is about .360. His peaks are higher than those other, lesser hitters on the team and valleys are not as low. In fact, Rasmus’s cold months have been on par or better than most of our middle infielders’ seasons. Rasmus has had three cold months where his wOBA has been .290 or a few points higher. Lopez has a .304 wOBA. Skip has a .304 wOBA. Ryan has a .277 wOBA. Miles has a .298 wOBA.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
but our middle infielders have been bad this year.
just because he’s on par with bad hitters doesn’t make it alright.
There have been at times too many (pretty much) automatic outs are in the lineup this season, and you’re saying Colby’s had 3 months that equal those guys. That’s half the season.
If you’re saying his peaks are near Pujols level and his valleys are Lopez/Skip/Ryan level, then 1) that’s a hell of a month to month fluctuation and 2) that’s a lot of lost production in those off months. Adding an extra Lopez, Skip, Ryan to the lineup is boarderline disasterous.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I suspect a week-to-week analysis would probably show more fluctuation,
but he is capable of carrying the team when hot. What’s more, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him become more consistent as he matures as a ballplayer. Another very streaky hitter: Jim Edmonds.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It's more than a little unfair.
It’s willfully ignorant, Joe Morgan style.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Sep 7, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so you're saying that his overall numbers for the year should be thrown out?
there are a lot of streaky hitters out there. and remember it’s only his second season, he might “even out” more next season. I’m not ready to cut ties (I can’t think of anything more annoying than watching him come to fruition on another team because of some bs drama). hopefully he doesn’t get run out of town
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I didn't say they should be thrown out
what I’m suggesting is the months where he’s “slumping” have more impact on the lineup than the months where he’s “surging”.
We have too many bad hitters on the team, we don’t need another one.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
ah, so you are explaining why he sits when he's slumping
I dunno, for a young player he should still just be playing as often as possible and working things out. I don’t think that some of these player’s egos are as fragile as they’d have you believe.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i can't figure out
why his bad numbers should be weighted more heavily than his good numbers
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Yes -- when he goes 0-12 in 3 games he should be benched, he's not helping the offense
/sarcasm
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Yes
and for the record, I never said he should be benched.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
To be fair, one of those guys is Feliz, and he hasn't been here for the whole season.
Where are we in terms of runs scored since the ASB? Because I bet we’re far below 8th in the NL.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
That's gonna take me a minute or 30 to figure out.
But work’s slow today for me, so ask and ye shall (eventually) receive.
Of course, if someone knows a sortable stat webstie that allows me to do this without manually tallying all 16 teams run totals since the ASB, I wouldn’t ignore it…
Not since the ASB, but since the Trade deadline.
Runs scored as follows:
NYM 114
Pit 116
LAD 130
SF 138
Hou 141
Col 144
SD 144
Stl 147
Phi 151
Fla 155
Wsh 156
Mil 159
Arz 164
Chi 167
Cin 169
Atl 174
Cards are 9th in the NL in runs scored since the trade deadline. Didn’t want to manually add up all the late-July games.
Who are the other four?
Boog, Molina, Skip, and someone else? Floppy? I hadn’t realised he’d been so bad. Really been on a nosedive in the 2nd half.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 7, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Lopez's second half has been absolutely brutal.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Sub-replacement I think
as he was worth about 1 win in the first half and now I note he’s down at 0.4, only 1 run ahead of Aaron Miles’ contribution so far…
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 7, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Playing time
I feel confident predicting that, if Aaron Miles had received as many PA’s and innings in the field as Lopez, Lopez would be something more than 1 run ahead of Aaron Miles’s contribution so far. That being said, I have wondered for a while whether Lopez has ever really gotten over his forearm injury. His offense has gotten so bad that it makes me wonder if there is an injury there.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Just one of many under-performing infielders this year
That’s really torpedoed our season.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 7, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, over the last 30 days,
they’re 11th in the NL in runs scored….For the month of July, they were 5th. It probably averges out to somewhere around 8th in the league.
/Sorting team stats is a pain on B/R…at least FG lets you go month by month.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Fangraphs allows month-by-month, you say?
Sure as shit beats out game-by-game tallying that I was going on the WWL site.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
There are some brutal offenses in the NL this season
And the St Louis Cardinals can’t seem to beat any of those teams (Nationals, Astros, Pirates) with any sort of regularity. Against the four worst offenses in the NL this season (the aforementioned three teams plus the Mets), the Cardinals are 17-19, a .472 winning percentage. Those teams have a combined record of 237 – 313, for a winning percentage of .431. Those teams beat us WAY more than they beat the rest of the league.
I will now slam my head in a drawer.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
offense?? PITCHING AND DEFENSE!!!!
who needs runs with run prevention????
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Zing!
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
FWIW -- if we had a .533 winning percentage against those team (our WP on the season as a whole
We would have 2 more wins and would only be 5 games back. If we beat those teams as bad as the REST OF THE LEAGUE HAS BEATEN THEM, we’d have 3 more wins and only be 4 games back.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Last comment:
We’re 12-6 against the division leading Reds.
We’re 4-0 against the division leading Braves.
We’re 1-2 against the division leading Padres.
We’re 7-7 against the second place teams in the East and West divisions.
So against the top 5 teams in the NL, we’re 24-15 for a .615 WP.
Yup, that’s right. We’re a .615 team against the top competition, and a .472 team against the bottom competition.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
22-24 against NLC teams not located in Ohio
Sigh.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
We're beating all the teams ahead of us in the Wild Card 61.5% of the time!!!!
This season is just beyond belief.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I'm sorry
If that’s not a managerial issue with getting player’s motivated to play against lesser competition, I don’t know what is.
I’ve always considered that to be an indication of managerial prowess — do your teams tend to play to the level of their competition? Clearly, this year, we are.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Look at the line-ups he puts out for most of those games.
Not exactly HOVG.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 7, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I can't argue that point.
It would be hard to get “up” for a game when you look at the card an it has one or more of the “cluster-fuck squad” on it
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 7, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm envisioning a series on Adult Swim
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
they didn't make it yet?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so you never saw Assy McGee...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh right. stupid maths.
wasn’t there some squid thing?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
number one in the hood, G
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I don't think it's random. I think it's lack of mental preparation
and I would pin that on the manager. He is responsible for having his team mentally ready to play.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
really?
5 months is such a small sample size for team play. The fact that the Cardinals have won more than expected against good teams and less than expected against bad ones doesn’t mean anything statistically. And there is certainly no evidence that Tony’s game preparation has anything to do with it.
Fire Tony La Russa
by vivaelpujols on Sep 7, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not talking about 5 months
I’m talking about the last 4 years in a row and parts of 2006 as well. Used to be, back in the good old days of 2000 – 2005, we would beat the teams we were supposed to beat and go around .500 against everyone else. The last few years we’ve had trouble beating a lot of teams that are clearly less talented than we are, and I think that’s a mental issue.
he fact that the Cardinals have won more than expected against good teams and less than expected against bad ones doesn’t mean anything statistically.
I wasn’t aware I was making a statistical point. I thought I was making a point about mental acuity and focus as it pertains to playing down to the level of your competition. Professionals shouldn’t do this.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
the trends are too striking
over the course of 5 months for me to believe that
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Built for the playoffs is what I hear
"I got to get Dr. Freeze off my twig right now."-Nyjer Morgan
by flipthebird15 on Sep 7, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
the worst part about that...
aaron miles is not one of those players.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither is Stavinoha.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
sigh.
though had stavinoha gotten 350 PA’s this year i might have killed a baby.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
"watching Jeff Suppan is frustrating because there's no future."
That’s precisely why watching Soup is actually better: no future means we don;t have to watch any moore bad outings after this year. With Louse we still have 2 YEARS of crappy pitching, unless he straightens himself out. That is infinitely worse IMO. Soup is just a stop-gap patch who will be gone very soon; Louse is like an itchy rash we’re gonna have to scratch again and again and again…
:=8P
Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O
That is assuming Suppan is not signed to a 4-year deal with a team option & buyout after this year
which, in my experience, I would suggest is somewhat presumptuous….
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 7, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I am Pretty Sure Soup isn't getting so Mooch as a 4 Day Deal After the Season is Over...
:=8/
Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O
LoHse has not been that bad really.
Suppan, however, is utterly horrible. LoHse is the way to go, not Suppan
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Suppan hasn't pitched poory for the Cardinals.
However, he has gotten practially zero run support.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
suppan HAS pitched poorly for the cardinals. he just hasn't gotten poor results.
there’s a difference.
FREE TYLER GREENE
by IHeartBoog on Sep 7, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
soooooo our minor league system is winning like fuck-all
i dunno why that imprecation seemed apropos, but it just does.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
MooCow, not everyone leaves gifts all over the farm.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
tag plug!
the tag is titlewatch 2010
game threads also contain the excitement and the … the… the beerkakke. sniff. I remember those.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Contrary to opinion on the board
It appears that TLR has been trying to protect Colby from himself. It appears the “its all about me” stuff from Colby has finally hit a raw chord with the rest of the team. My guess is that TLR has been trying to get his teammates to be patient with Colby and cutting him some slack with matchups, but Albert has had enough.
Colby seems like he has a mess on his hands. Married too young, new father, his own father appears to be a nuisance. I think TLR is right — he’s just really young and needs time, but he must really be a pain in the ass for Pujols to start speaking out.
Having said that, they’d be crazy to trade him unless we got something that good back.
Just win
I'm sorry, but I think a lot of this would be solved by simply
PLAYING THE KID EVERY DAY AS HE SHOULD BE. I’ve yet to see Tony give a reason why he’s not playing every day that doesn’t involve praising someone else’s inferior play.
But you know Tony isn’t going to do that. So, to me, it’s a problem with Tony. He’s clearly better than all of our other outfield or bench options, so why doesn’t he start every game in CF? Why does he have to constantly get dicked around by the manager in favor of Jon Jay? It’s INFURIATING.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Sep 7, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
FWIW, his father says it's a problem with Colby, not TLR.
at least that’s what I got out of this.
I think Colby’s family knew that Colby would not make it way back then with TLR and have hinted around that both the cardinals and Colby would benefit from a mutual separation. It wasn’t smoke and mirrors and it has been building ever since. I even said just a few weeks back that the odds were that things would get way worse if nothing changed. And this is not TLR’s fault. It is Colby’s.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
who's RCWarrior?
TLR shouldn’t be hinting to anyone that any of his players would benefit from a “mutual separation.” As much as Tony1 and Tony2 escalated matters, there was very little evidence that Colby was stirring it up back then. Back then, that is.
There’s plentiful circumstantial evidence, on the other hand, that there wasn’t much Colby could do to de-escalate the situation. What exactly was he supposed to do?
also: the tyrannosaurus totally approaches the goat. turn off the flashlight in the van.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Colby's dad....
he’s still posting.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
then there is so much about that which still seems wrong.
stirring the pot, stirring the pot.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ya....read all of his comments
it’s strange.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yikes. I think it comes down to: Colby should be worrying about his defense and offense, and NOTHING ELSE.
there have been a whole lot of other people who have made it about other things. as far as I can tell, the only distraction Colby has been responsible for has been his daughter.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I really liked the
if the cards make the playoffs, he’s gonna sneak into town TO WORK ON cOLBY’S HITTING.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
doesn't he know all the outer-belt guards have been alerted to his pencil sketch?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
constant vigilance
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 7, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
oh...and the tyrannosaurus
makes an appearance in the next days post as well. classic.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Same guy, same thread:
No doubt Jumbo, Colby would definitely be a different player if he were somewhere else. There is no doubting that and there is no doubt that I’ve said that. I don’t think its far fetched to think Colby has spoken to Mo at one time or another about Colby not being a good enough player to do what they are asking Colby to do hitting wise.
As for Alberts comments, If Colby did want to get traded those comments from Albert would be the best news possible because they carry serious weight. Things will work out one way or another, and most likely for the best.
So, it’s Colby that’s the problem, but if you take him out of St. Louis, he’d be a “different player”? Sorry, I’m not reading that the same way you are.
FWIW — his dad is so fucking cryptic about his comments it’s impossible to understand what the hell his point is. “not a good enough player to do what they’re asking him to do hitting wise”? WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN? That they’re asking him to be Tony Gwynn and he’s not Tony Gwynn? This from the same guy who earlier in the statement says he’d be a “different player” if he were somewhere else and who has stated in the past that he thought he could be a .330 hitter in the big leagues if he “wanted to be”.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Maybe he means playing in a less pressure-filled environment
like KC or Cleveland, or Pittsburgh or someplace like that.
Where there’s no pressure and he can just play baseball and not worry about the success of the team.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
No, because then this statement doesn't make any sense:
I think Colby’s family knew that Colby would not make it way back then with TLR…
So, in summary:
- Colby would play better elsewhere
- Colby’s family knew that Colby would not make with TLR.
and that somehow makes Colby the problem? That just doesn’t compute. At all.
So he would just be better off playing for a shitty baseball team with no expectations? I seriously doubt that is what his dad means.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
none of this makes any sense.
just get rid of larussa. problem solved. end of story.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
High expectations.
If his family suspects TLR expects too much (or a high level at all times) from his players and Colby wasn’t ready to handle such expectations (ie, maybe he’d been coddled at a star high school athlete……it’s happened before), then maybe they knew he wouldn’t make it with TLR.
His (as well as the city’s and organization’s) expectations are too high.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
This is mired in obfuscation.
So he can play at a high level sometimes but not all the time, but his work ethic is consistently good (according to Tony)? That really doesn’t make much sense.
Everyone’s expectations are so high that he can’t possibly meet them? Assuming this is true, the best way to handle this is to sit the kid when he’s struggling, not document his injuries publicly so people know why he’s struggling/isn’t playing, then throw the kid under the bus by stating to the press that he’s requested a trade, only to have that not substantiated by either the front office or the player himself? Again, where is TLR NOT the problem here?
Tony La Russa is increasingly at odds with this organization at every turn. He doesn’t like Luhnow. He went out of his way to praise Walt Jocketty last weekend, a guy the organization summarily disposed of because of his differences with the way the organization wanted to move in the future. He pines over veteran players — and over the last 2 seasons he’s gotten exactly what he’s asked for (Holliday trade, Holliday signing, ALL THE HORRIBLE MOVES THIS SEASON like Winn, Miles, Feliz, and the trade for Westbrook, which was a net positive for the club in terms of WAR but not in terms of WINS.) yet, this club isn’t winning, and they’re playing to the level of their competition more and more. If the man can’t win when he gets nearly everything he wants and is still at odds with everyone in the organization, why should we expect this to get better in the future without changing anything?
Should we change everyone in the organization, most of whom are doing a very good job (especially Luhnow), or should we cut ties with the cranky fucker who can’t get along with anyone else? I say it’s the latter, and I don’t know how you could look at the situation and say otherwise, honestly.
I used to staunchly defend the guy. I really did. I thought he was one of the better managers in the big leagues for most of his tenure with St. Louis….but these last couple years have made very little sense in terms of roster management, player management, and living up to expectations. My conclusion is that he’s lost his fastball, and that he knows this at some level and is attempting to either make up for it by continuing to re-invent the wheel and get snippy with people who don’t agree with him, or that he’s lost interest in the daily machinations of managing and would rather go save puppies and attend Glenn Beck rallies.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Sep 7, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Your mom is mired in obfuscation.
And dick, obviously.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 8, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
damn.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 8, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
BURN!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It reads like LaRussa has evidently held it against Colby that Luhnow drafted him and Mo/Luhnow has pushed him onto TLr and the big league club. I’ve read 3 or 4 articles in the last few days making reference to TLR has held Colby in contempt because of Luhnow.
by Waxing Gibbous on Sep 7, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Reference please
I have not seen that mentioned. And please, no blog or forum stuff.
Bernie's Bytes today
Makes a passing reference to it.
Also, I think that the trade of Ludwick has really impacted Colby. I remember seeing an interview with him after the trade happened and you could tell that Colby really admired him and it sounded like the Luddy was one of the few in the clubhouse who actually took him under his wing to teach him how to play in the big leagues.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/article_f52c26b8-ba95-11df-adca-0017a4a78c22.html
by Waxing Gibbous on Sep 7, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Bernie's article was very good.
A balanced perspective. I think he and Gordon made good points supporting Luhnow and the youth movement.
I hadn’t given a lot of thought that Colby has two controlling Tony’s to battle with. I can believe he is overly sensitive.
After all the hand-wringing/world is ending articles from the media, these two articles seem to be inline with reality.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs. ~Harry Caray
his dad
seriously just needs to shut the fuck up.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
by Evilfrog on Sep 7, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yada yada yada
who cares who it is, what it is or if it is? Big deal. The only talk that matters is the talk coming from Tony and Albert.
by Waxing Gibbous on Sep 7, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he does.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He certainly does not help matters by opening his yap all the time, that's for sure
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
It's clear he's been hurt
BP has had several comments up in August that his injuries were worse than being communicated and his numbers were lousy as well (as I beleive you pointed out). I think the commetns about John Jay were ill-advised as well.
Just win
this makes no sense whatsoever, and is a whole lot of sociopolitical opinion.
Colby had friction with guys who no longer play with the club. There was no visible friction with Albert until a reporter cornered him with a question, to which Albert gave the same answer he’s been giving for years to everything from bat-tossing to hot-headed pitchers. And how, pray tell, did he become “all about me” when he’s been named as a leader in the clubhouse?
Unless you think there’s some “all about me” clique and they wander the streets snapping their fingers at people.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
No visible friction with Albert?
Albert dumped a load on Colby in his press comments. That didn’t materialie out of nowhere. It’s been building for along time. Really, no visible friction? He whacked Colby with a 2 by 4 in the middle of a pennant race! I think there is some friction.
TLR has been nutty this year with some of his in-game choices, but I cant extrapolate that to his handling of Colby. the pyscho-babble is coming more from Strauss and this board with the constant “he’s trying to make it a TLR vs Colby —one of ’ems got to go” nonsense. TLR likes to win — messing with one of your best players does not foster that goal. Just go back and read Colby’s weird article this spring about how no one loves him in the clubhouse —what did that have to do wth TLR?
Just win
uh what?
prove it. your context is way out in the antarctic. your evidence is coming from a Strauss article. also: see the three or four other threads where we deconstruct the disaster.
either that, or someone needs to do a screenshot post so we’re not arguing the niceties still.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This isn't Strauss, but I assume its the sum and substance of the P-D comments, what isn't clear about that.
"If he doesn’t want to be here next year, we need to figure out a way to get him out of here and find somebody that wants to be here and play," Pujols told Yahoo! Sports before Sunday’s game against the Reds. "That’s a reality.
"That’ll show you right there a young player that doesn’t respect what he’s got," he added. "He needs to find out the talent and ability that he has and pretty much keep his mouth shut and play the game. Let the organization make those decisions, not himself."
Following the game, Pujols reiterated his comments to St. Louis-area and national media: "If you don’t want to be part of this great organization, man, this is one of the special organizations you want to play for. And if you don’t want to be a part of this, then you know what? You need to figure out a place to go and play."
Just win
again: context. context. context.
which is not theoretical in nature. I’m only being terse because we combed through this many, many times, and it’s difficult to recreate the entire timeline. read it.
also: second-person plural exists and Albert knows how to use it.
the same answer he’s been giving for years to everything from bat-tossing to hot-headed pitchers
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
do you seriously believe that AP unloading on Colby
is a matter of context?
Sometimes things just are what they are and all the parsing of when he said and how he said it won’t change that.
Just win
Pujols was responding to an anonymously sourced statement which TLR then confirmed.
However, both the GM and the player who allegedly made the “request” (whatever that means) deny any such “request” was made. Two people know what was said in TLR’s office: TLR and Rasmus. Each has their own characterization of what happened. Three people know what was said between Mozeliak, Rasmus, and Rasmus’s agent. Two of those three deny any trade “request” was made by Rasmus: Mozeliak and Rasmus.
Pujols very clearly places a qualifier on his comment: “If he doesn’t want to be here next year…” Pujols clearly knows as little about what was said or not said as anyone other than the primary players in the situation.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not a matter of belief.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Pujols clearly knows he's talking about Rasmus and intends to "unload" on him.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cardinals-rasmus
I thought Colby’s comment about Mo was interesting.
In any event, I don’t know why people around here pretend that they have much, if any, insight into any of these issues. Maybe Albert really doesn’t like Colby; maybe Colby’s a real douche (or Albert is, or both are), etc. Who knows.
Parsing Joe Strauss’s articles isn’t going to lend any great o
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 7, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not pretending to know anything
I’m just trying to look at what’s been said and piece it all together. When I do that, I come back to one logical conclusion:
Colby Rasmus and Tony La Russa don’t get along for whatever reason, and Tony is putting himself between the organization and the player by making comments about trade requests that the organization says didn’t happen.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
So TLR and Rasmus haven't always gotten along....
So what. Old manager that gripes about “playing the right way” has issues with young, uber-talented but lightly-coached, inconsistent, oft-nicked, player. Hasn’t this played out a gazillion times in pro sports?
Why isn’t it completely believable that TLR and Rasmus had an argument, Rasmus said he wanted a trade, but after calming down, no formal trade request to the FO was made. Seems plausible if not likely.
Both these guys seem ike 9 year olds. They could be best friends by the end of the week.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 7, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR's only about 40 years more removed from 9 years old than Colby.
Is it so much to ask that he act like the mature one in the duo?
Yes. (If the last 15 years have taught us anything.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Precisely
How can you be a leader of men when the young guy you don’t respect at all is constantly getting under your skin enough to make you have public outbursts about him to the media?
It seems like conversation with TLR is top down, my-way-or-the-highway type thinking, and that includes players getting instruction from sources outside the TLR coaching staff.
The problem is that when you can’t communicate with your manager then the problems persist and worsen, and I’m beginning to get the feeling that TLR is not approachable if he doesn’t like you.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
How can you be a leader of men
when you give in to the youngest one when he doesn’t do what you ask him to do?
NONE of TLR “outburst” on Rasmus have been any kind of personal attacks.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I'm not saying he should give in
I’m saying he needs to be approachable if something isn’t working and should be willing to work it out with the player. Especially if that player is one of the 4 or 5 most talented players on the team.
If you get in his doghouse, you’re already one foot out the door, and that’s a problem for the organization when the player in the doghouse is the 3rd best position player on the team.
The inmates shouldn’t run the asylum, but they should at least get to express themselves. TLR has never been considered a “player’s coach”, but I think he’s swung way too far into the “regimented, my way or the highway” thinking the last couple of years and it’s hurt our ballclub.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
TLR
Deserves about 50% of the blame for this. Not sure if his way won’t work or what effect it has had on the team as a whole over the last five years. Because we don’t know which guys it really helps.
I mean, I assume it really helps Miles. But who the hell cares about that. It could really have a positive effect on guys like Pujols, Wainwright, and Carpenter.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Tony seems both outdated and burned out on managing
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
All this is just personal perception....
How can you be a leader of men when the young guy you don’t respect at all is constantly getting under your skin enough to make you have public outbursts about him to the media?
I haven’t seen that TLR doesn’t respect Rasmus “at all,” that Raz is “constantly” getting under his skin, that TLR has had any public “outbursts” about this, etc. All of this seems like putting your spin on the situation that doesn’t match up with the facts.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 7, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I know -- you never spin, just the rest of us do. You're always the patient, understanding guy -- the rest of us just jump to conclusions.
Your spin is that there is no issue here. There is an issue here, clearly. The rest of us are trying to figure out what the issue is by what’s been put out there publicly.
He had a public outburst about it over the weekend. He’s had various public statements about Colby’s lack of “doing things the right way” for a good part of the past two seasons. I’ve yet to hear him admonish Jon Jay one bit. So this is clearly about Rasmus and not just about him being a rookie.
He doesn’t respect Colby nearly as much as he respects Jon Jay, and he’s said as much in public comments. He’s not going to come out and say that directly, because TLR is built to fuck with people like you who never read between the lines about anything.
I’m not sure how much the degree matters in this respect but since I’m arguing with the fucking king of nitpicking, let’s just say “respects him very little as a man”. I’ll try to be more clear next time to spell things out in triplicate so as to not offend your delicate sensibilities.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
It's not just personal perception
If Tony had never said anything about him requesting a trade over the weekend then it would be. But he DID say that, TWICE, only to be refuted by the player and the GM both times.
If that’s not a personal problem I don’t know what is. It’s not like Tony goes around half-cocked about things he’s not sure about and then blab to the press about it. Everything he says to any reporter has some meaning to it. He’s measured and careful with words. When he says something you should damn well know, after 15 years of this, that it’s meant to get some sort of reaction from someone. In this case, I’m pretty sure his indication is that he either doesn’t know what the fuck to do with Colby Rasmus or he’s trying to light a fire under the young man’s ass in the worst possible way.
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i don't know, i tend to agree that it wasn't a public "outburst"
the story i read used very careful language…
Tony La Russa confirmed Sunday that center fielder Colby Rasmus sought a trade earlier this season.
Responding to a report in Sunday editions of the Post-Dispatch that Rasmus had requested a trade, La Russa acknowledged the incident but suggested underlying issues that fed the request had since eased.
it seems to me more likely that someone in the media heard about it, asked larussa, and larussa answered it. not exactly an “outburst”
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Any time Tony says something like this about a player to a media member, I would qualify it as an outburst.
He doesn’t say negative things about players to the media. Ever. So when he does, it’s a good bet he’s grinding an axe of some sort. Previous examples would be: Jason Marquis, Scott Rolen, Adam Kennedy.
So why would he confirm it if there wasn’t some useful purpose for him to do so? He could just say “I wouldn’t know anything about that, you’d have to ask John or Colby”. Then they would have done that, those two would have denied it, and that would have been the end of the story. Clearly, to me, Tony wanted this story to have some legs, so he confirmed the rumor that he’d asked for a trade.
The funny thing is that we don’t know who’s telling the truth — if Colby and Mo are telling the truth here, and no trade request was made, then that’s really damning on Tony because he’s essentially confirming untrue rumors that could be damaging to his relationship to a player. Which could be him just being a dick, or could be him dropping hints to the front office.
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according to the cryptic internet postings
of his father, Colby didn’t do it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
my guess
it was a heat of the moment kind of “fuck you, then, i’d rather be traded,” than an actual, colby sitting down, seriously weighing his options, reaching the conclusion that he would like to be traded and requesting it of the manager or GM
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
I think that's entirely plausible.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Certainly seems to be what it is
which makes the fact that it was given to Strauss to run with months later even more ridiculous.
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 7, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
given what we know about strauss, i would not be surprised if he's been sitting on the information for awhile.
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good point. i just wonder how he came to discover this 2 months later
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not without tweeting about
watching the post for an upcoming breaking story.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
hmmm larussa is a lot of things...i don't think he's a liar
my guess is that he and colby got into it about something and colby said something like “i wish you’d just trade me already.” and colby probably never formally requested a trade. so in reality, no one is actually lying about what happened.
i’m not saying larussa is a saint, i just think your earlier post mischaracterizes the situation. especially because it leaves out important facts. for example, about colby larussa also said this:
But, as to any judgment on whether one of them would have to go next year, La Russa was emphatic.
“It’s one of the most incorrect evaluations and analyses that I can ever remember. To say that in 2011, either I’m going to be gone or he’s going to be gone … our relationship is nowhere near that,” said La Russa.
“I think that almost every quote I’ve made about him has been positive and if you point out something he’s doing wrong, it has to do with experience and normal development.
“I talk to him every day. We’ve had a lot of great conversations.
“But there’s no free lunch. Stuff is going to fly. If you don’t like it, stay home and do something else for a living. In his case, what I told him is that he’s a highly talented player. He’s going to get more attention and he’s not under the radar screen.
“I said, ’What would you rather do, be a guy with no talent and be under the radar screen, or have talent and have a chance to be a real impact guy?”
those don’t sound like words of complete disrespect.
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I don't think they totally disrespect each other.
But I do think that Tony is going to have it his way and that is going to be the way it is. If a player doesn’t like it, he can “stay home and do something else for a living”, and I think that he’s made this case with the aforementioned Rolen and Kennedy and probably various others that I’m forgetting over the years.
I also think it’s telling that the quote in question appeared a day later than the quote about confirming a trade request.
I’m not calling TLR a liar, I’m saying that someone isn’t telling the truth here or there’s been a large scale miscommunication between parties, and that if you don’t know the whole truth you shouldn’t be saying shit.
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This case isn't about who's lying
all the “he said-she said” is just the normal “let’s move on” talk that always happens.
Tony’s approach is well-known so if Rasmus hasn’t figured that out in two years, whose fault is that?
It seems to me all his spats in the past with Rolen, Kennedy, O Smith, etc were about players who had lost it (or appeared to have lost it) and Tony was trying to cut bait.
With Rasmus his comments are clearly trying to leave the door open for Colby to walk through, but it’s gotta be on TLR’s terms.
Just win
I sure would like to have Scott Rolen right now
He’s had a pretty good season for a player who’s “lost it”.
The manager doesn’t get to decide who the organization “cuts bait” with either. That’s the GM’s job. Tony’s job is to manage the players he’s given and put the best team on the field to try to win games. It’s not to dictate to the FO who will and will not be on the team. In a perfect world they would work seamlessly with little argument about personnel and each would respect the other, but it’s hard to fathom that Tony has any respect for John Mozeliak with all the griping and carping that’s gone on since Jocketty left.
Tony can’t have it both ways. He can’t answer questions about roster construction by ceding that responsibility to the GM when asked about it and then get his fingers in all the personnel moves and pretend he had nothing to do with any of them.
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A word on Ozzie...
Sure, the Wizard was at the end of his rope, but considering all the great baseball he presided over in St. Louis he certainly deserved a bit more respect than he got from La Russa, who platooned him with Royce fucking Clayton. If they’d brought in Jeter to replace him I could understand, but Royce Clayton?
Tony La Russa would never have done that to Mark McGwire or Terry Steinbach, or Albert Pujols. Never.
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Beyond that
You can just look at what happened after this leaked out. I mean something like that would be a perfect time for the “us and against the world” stuff that coaches thrive on. It’s not above Tony to go ballistic on the media, we all know that. I’d have to imagine that if this didn’t come from Tony, or someone close to Tony, then TLR would have been on Strauss’s ass about what his sources were on that. Something like, “I know you didn’t get that garbage from me so why are you running with that?”
Yet that’s not even close to what happened. Why?
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 7, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols actually said
IF.
Pujols didn’t say Rasmus needs to be gone. I thougth it was pretty clear from the Yahoo Sports article that a reporter said "hey, have you heard this? " And Albert said “if that’s true…” and then went into his privilege spiel.
Friction with Albert or not...
…there’s a very easy solution to all of this nonsense.
Just.
Let.
Colby.
Play.
He’s our 2nd best outfielder, our 3rd best hitter and he’s a damn sight better than anyone else on our roster that could handle the position.
Whether TLR is intended to skullfuck Colby or not, he’s sure as shit fucking any playoff chances we still have by not playing him.
That doesn't fix the problem
If at least part of the problem is Colby not taking constructive criticism, and proactively trying to make changes to his approach/swing, if needed, then the resentment would only build amongst the team if he continued to play.
I don’t understand why this is hard to understand. If you followed the rules at your place of work, busted your butt to do things the “right” way, and somebody else in a similiar position was just barely doing enough to get by, and wasn’t really buying into management’s philosophy, you’d be pissed if that guy was moving up faster than you, or getting larger bonuses, or whatever.
Same difference.
except
i conveniently left out the part where the aforementioned employee was way better at my job than i am
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
also
the analogies of MLB to our everyday jobs are kind of dumb
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Sep 7, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Is that guy getting better results than I am?
Sure, I’d be pissed, but if Mr. Slacker was getting the office equivalent of a .900 OPS to my .730, then he should be moving up.
Your argument hings on Colby’s percieved flaws actually being detrimental to the team. To this point, despite his tinkering and flubbing things up, he’s still a better option than Jay, Stavinoha (dear god, I shouldn’t even have to type that) or Winn.
Look, when Colby’s out, Jay moves to center and we start Winn or Stav in right. You cannot possibly tell me that you think Stav or Winn present a better option than Colby.
Our outfield should ALWAYS Be, IMO...
Holiday, Rasmus, and Jay, apart from the occasional rests here and there that a 4th OF cud cover, preferably someone who cud play all 3. We cud get by with having Craig back up RF & LF, and Jay back up Colby when he’s out, but apart from injuries there is no reason to have any udder OFs around apart from pinch hitting – which u don;t need two of, pick either Stav or Winn, please. I’d have Craig back up Albert too, and Greene back up Boog at short and Freese/Feliz/Flop/the first penguin that escapes the zoo at third. No need to have extra role-players around to take away PAs from the starters unless they are super good.
:=8/
Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O
This is become an empty vessel filled with speculation.
…somebody else in a similiar position was just barely doing enough to get by, and wasn’t really buying into management’s philosophy, you’d be pissed if that guy was moving up faster than you, or getting larger bonuses, or whatever.
What evidence is there that Rasmus does not work hard? I believe TLR was even quoted as saying he is pleased with Rasmus’s work ethic this season. We need to be careful that we are not leaping to conclusions or assigning shortfalls where no evidence exists to support them.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Liking to win and doing things that don't "foster that goal"
are not mutually exclusive actions for a manager.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 7, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols never had a problem
until Tony went public w/ Colby’s “he asked for a trade” declaration. Were it not for Tony outing him publicly like that, Pujols would’ve never said anything. Tony’s not trying to protect Colby. If anything, he’s trying to demonize him.
by chuckb on Sep 7, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
thats the prevailing wisdom here, but I don't buy it
Albert didn’t just decide to pop off to a provocative question. He’s the face of the Cardinals and he doesnt say anything that isn’t well-considered.
Colby’s got problems but TLR is still saying they are fixable and generously attributing them to “youth”. He’s not demonizing him
Just win
I am so thankful
when my boss at work publicly discusses his perceived shortcomings of my work in our group meetings. It’s great when I hear people mention my failings but then graciously attribute them to me being inexperienced.
That makes a terrific work environment.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
Does your work hold daily media conferences just to talk about you and your co-workers?
Do millions of people watch you work every year?
Do people pay 35 dollars each day to watch you work?
If “no”, then that might not be a fair comparison.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I'm sure that Colby feels all warm and safe in TLR's protective arms.
I don’t care if TLR leaked this or if Colby leaked this or if they should or shouldn’t discuss it publicly. I could not care less about that.
But let’s not pretend that anything TLR has said makes Rasmus go, “Aw schucks, I’m so glad TLR is looking out for me.” That’s all I’m asking for.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
Having people talk about your weaknesses is a nature of the beast for a professional athlete
It sucks, but that’s reality. You either get used to it, or you let it bother you and become an issue.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
You're right.
Good managers always trash their young players. In fact, TLR was just throwing Jon Jay under the bus the other day. And Joe Maddon, had a lengthy public discussion about BJ Upton after his spat with Evan Longoria. And Bobby Cox was quoted on numerous times saying that Yunel Escobar and he had a problematic relationship.
O wait, none of those things happened. Again, I don’t give a shit if they want to air those things out publicly. I think it’s odd, but whatever. But seriously, this is aberrant behavior from someone’s boss. I don’t understand how anyone can even possibly argue that TLR was shielding Colby from criticism or trying to protect him.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
Maddon and Upton do have a public history
If Joe Maddon wanted to make anything clear Saturday, it was that he wasn’t mad at B.J. Upton.
In fact, the Rays’ manager praised his center fielder at length even as he explained the reasoning behind the latest disciplinary measures he had to impose on Upton for a lack of hustle. Namely, benching him Saturday after pulling him from the game in the sixth inning Friday night.
“Listen, I like the guy a lot,” Maddon said. “B.J.‘s a wonderful young man, he’s going to be a superstar in this league, he’s a big part of our organization now and in the future. But, you have to draw the line at some point just to make sure that all the right things do occur in the years to come.”
Maddon added that Upton can be a “catalyst” in the Rays’ run for the playoffs and beyond, “but we have to work through some moments, some issues right now to get to that point. He listened very well, I listened to him, and we’re going to move it along.”
Hmmm
That whole statement feels radically difficult than him comparing Upton to Longoria and discussing all the things that Longoria does better, how he’s more mature, etc.
If La Russa wanted to provide cover for Rasmus, he says something like this. Instead, he brings up specific aspects of Rasmus’s game that he doesn’t like to the press. That is odd to me.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
Very similar
to what LaRussa has said about Colby since Sunday. I agree this is much different than LaRussa’s one comparison quote.
Maddon did pull his star CF off the field during a pennant race. That was a pretty public embarrassment of a player.
after that star CFer publicly embarrassed the team
this was basically the hanley ramirez incident, something colbygate is most certainly not
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
i would say that miles feliz and suppan all competing at the same time
is the public embarassment
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
which is more embarrassing to a team?
Friday night, the Rays manager felt he had to discipline Upton for a lack of hustle when he lifted his center fielder for not hustling on a double-play ball in the sixth inning.
Asked if he likes it in St. Louis, Rasmus’ answer was telling. “I’d rather not answer that if I don’t have to,” he said.
It's two different situations though...
One has to do with on the field play and lack of hustling.
The other has to do with whether a young, talented player is happy with his situation. While there’s probably some on-field play that can be measured into that happiness, I think the tone of that answer tells you something different, especially when he’s having a pretty successful season.
I don’t think Rasmus has publicly embarrassed the team on the field yet, but then again, I’m not Al Hrabosky and someone named Colby did not piss in my Cheerios each morning for the last 18 months.
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I think I saw Colby on Al's lawn last week too
My point in posting the comments was that other managers do ream out young players for what they perceive as problems on the field. Tony did it one way with the comparison dig using Jay, Maddon yanks his player off the field in the middle of the game.
Every person that manages people knows that reaming a person out by comparing him to a peer
is doing more damage to both the person you’re reaming out and to your team structure as a whole, because you’re creating the perception of favoritism among the two employees in question and possibly among the team as a whole — especially if the guy you’re using for comparison doesn’t have good standing with the rest of the employees and you’re not aware of it.
You take the person to task based on his performance and HIS PERFORMANCE ALONE. If you can’t do that, then you shouldn’t be ripping his ass in the first place. You don’t chide him by praising other players for doing things he doesn’t do — that’s only going to make the problem worse.
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More recent article
Added Maddon: “He’s still a young man. He’s getting better offensively. His swing has gotten better. More than anything it’s just game-awareness, understanding the game better and becoming a better baseball player. I think that’s happening right now. It’s just a matter of time before he really takes off.”
Upton’s improvement has come at a good time. There were signs that the organization may have been tiring of him. In June he got into a dugout skirmish with Evan Longoria, who had confronted him because of a lack of hustle. In July there were rumors that the Rays may have tried to deal him. They have center field prospect Desmond Jennings waiting at Triple-A.
Upton insists that he does not need a change of scenery.
“I don’t want to go anywhere,” he said. “This is a great city, a great place to live, good fans. I don’t want to go anywhere.”
The Rays also want to see Upton figure it out while he’s still wearing a Tampa Bay uniform."
Also while praising your colleague
If only Azruavatar were more like the guy in the desk next to him. He just shows up and does his job and hits to the opposite field.
I'd like to see someone attribute Colby's main problem
which is apparently striking out too much for the average fan, to McGwire. at least his power is way up from last year (going by ISO here)
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
he doesnt say anything that isn’t well-considered.
you’re making stuff up here and passing off the unknowable as factq
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Tony needs to protect his self from himself moreso than he needs to protect Colby
Colby will be fine. Tony however, may continue to cause drama.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm...
According to my Statistical Analysis II college class, I can say with a 95% confidence interval that there is no significant difference between home and away batting splits for Holliday, Pujols, Molina and Rasmus…
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
not even diapers?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Boog?
Yeah, he does show significant difference in proportions. This means that you can say with 99% confidence, that Boog’s game is harmed when playing away from Busch.
However, he is the only one I’ve tested so far that fits that description.
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
we think it's the socks.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He hits real good in LA...
I think…
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
it's been variable.
the Boogaholics come out by the dozens in L.A. also the L.A. crowd kind of hates him.
i suspect he has better numbers in San Diego, with fewer crew texting him all the time.
/edumecated guesses
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I´ll do this again for RHP vrs. LHP and see if I can get different results
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
excellllent
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Hmm, interesting.
According to the results, there is NO statistical significant difference between facing LHP and RHP for any of Jay, Holliday, Pujols, Skip, Molina, Ryan, Floppy or Rasmus.
To expand, the players who are most affected by this are:
1. Molina
2. Floppy
3. Skip
The players who are least affected by the matchup:
1. Ryan
2. Jay…
3. and Colby… (What the…?)
I leave this open for interpretation…
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
is Colby played via splits?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
is he only playing on matchups?
gah, english failing me.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
if that is the result you are getting
then you are doing the math wrong.
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It is a difference of proportions test
The results I got basically mean that if you were able to add all of the Batting Averages against lefties and all of the Batting average against righties for every player ever to play baseball, there would be virtually no difference between the two. The same would apply to Home/Road splits.
I am sure the Walrus can play RF...
that's definitely incorrect.
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we interrupt this program for MOAR SAUCE!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The only thing that bugs me
is that all weekend MLB NEtwork was scrolling the stat about Chris Perez. 25.1 innings pitched, 2 ER, 28 or 29 Ks.
Has nothing to do with Motte. But you know, it bugs me.
do you lie awake at night...?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Wife was out of town
So I didn’t sleep a ton. The old “go to bed whenever and let the kids wake you up” plan.
agreed...
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
did anyone see the interview on FSMW?
with Tony yesterday at miller park . The reporter asked him about Colby and the trouble between them and La Russa said that with all young players they get rewarded when they perform and when they screw up they get popped , Colby is working thru his 2nd year in the big leagues and whats happening between them is routine with young players , no big deal they are talking and working it out . i think he’s a shy southern boy that probably gets really uncomfortable when the mood in the clubhouse is gloomy ,plus he’s been hurt , has a new baby at home that he doesnt see everyday thats alot for a man to sort out . Playing everyday is the best thing that could happen and maybe it will now that he seems healthy. As for the comment by Albert once he realized that he was reacting to something that was said 2 months ago (trade request) he backed off .
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Sep 7, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions
yeah if you are busy doing your job those other issues are not going to be much of an issue
no time to think about it
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
OT, but ESPN.com has NFL predictions...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
the memes are leaking
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
gregg easterbrook ladies and gentlemen
i really like the dude, but damn he has some serious politics in his work. it’s tiresome.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I just skimmed through it and read the haikus.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
basically what i did.
and what i’ll do for the rest of the year.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Easterbrook's a Brookings Institute Scholar first, NFL writer second.
The politics are going to be there, you’ve just got to deal with them or skim over them, as some are doing.
Still, like Scalia’s opinions, like his views or hate his views, they are fun to read.
oh i always enjoy his articles
just as much as i enjoy making fun of him the rest of the time.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
So basically he's like every other sports writer?
Except in his case, presumably you don’t agree with his politics…
It would be nice if all of them kept politics out of their columns. But it seems like sportswriting is what failed political writers do…
I thought of VEB when I saw that
He picked the niners to go 6-10 though, so I’m not happy with him right now
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
it's because the 49ers aren't that good
there’s a 10% chance the rams finish with a better record than they do.
/eternal optimist
/hates san francisco
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
intresting, SI picked them
to win their division.
If only because their entire division sucks worse than they do.
Cardinals – No QB on a team that lived and died by QB play the last three seasons.
Seahawks – Starting over and just cut their best offensive player not named Forsett.
Rams – Rebuilding.
Seriously — if the Niners can’t win that division than they just aren’t a very good football team.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Half-joking.
Couldn’t they win it with a 6-10 record?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't seem out of the question
But I’d guess they’d have to be better than that. You play all the teams in your division twice, and you’d have to do no worse than split those games and that’s 3 wins right there. I definitely think that 7-9 could win that division.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
and their overall schedule isn't too strong this year
I’m excited at the thought of the Niners being back in the playoffs, even if it’s because of a weak division
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I expect niners to have a good year.
I’m hoping for much better than 6-10. Maybe 10 -6.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs. ~Harry Caray
10: that's the number I'm looking for
(cue Billy-bob)
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
9ers defense is a beast
they should be pretty good
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Patrick Willis is a beast
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Mr. Spfldbird and I laid out the money this year for NFL Sunday ticket
Go Niners!
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs. ~Harry Caray
I will just wait for MNF and Rams games
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
* just have to
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
well
you’re likely only going to get one rams game as the home one will almost certainly be sold out.
also, why the hell are you a san fran fan? you live in stl and attended illinois, right?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
bite your tongue young man
we win this division going away. Mark it down, at the end of the year Niners are closer to 10-6 than 6-10.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yah, that's TMQ though
so grains of salt must be taken.
He also beats a dead horse quite well, which you’ll realize if you read his columns for about half a season. Is he still ranting about how team’s shouldn’t ever punt unless they’re inside their own 30 yard line? He’s been doing it since 2005.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
at least he's right about it.
better than being a dead horse that’s wrong.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
beating*
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Clearly NFL coaches aren't listening
so you either find a different way of getting your point across, or you just stop beating the horse. That’s what’s annoying about it. It’s part of what makes Dave Cameron annoying as well — the long winded ramblings about how correct he is all the time.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Mariners
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
bill belichick listened last year
oh, wait.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
trust the process not the result?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
cue the picture.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm in full agreement.
i just like making fun of belichick whenever possible.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You're not one of the people...
…that fails to realize that TMQ is a humor column, are you, Fourstick?
The continual, repetitive beating of the same drum for going on a decade now is the entire point of things. If you don’t care for it, that’s fine, to each their own, but there’s a significant reader base out there for him, myself included, that eats that schtick up.
Oh, no, I get it, I just don't find it funny. I find it annoying and kinda arrogant.
Hia non-sports writing is pretty good. His TMQ column seems lazy by comparison.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
lineup
lopez 4
jay 9
pujols 5
holliday 7
molina 2
rasmus 8
feliz 5
greene 6
lohse 1
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
Tyler Green at SS for the Cardinals? What a novel concept...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
wait...
how long has he been up?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
today.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm..
I thought him and Craig were staying down until Memphis was done playing. But Woohoo! no Miles and no Lopez at short!
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
The timing of the call up
means Greene just missed by one day getting ML pay and service time for this time in Memphis.
Mo might be sending his agent a message about the demotion/DL stint.
very interesting
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
other theories abounding
match-up with Narveson
or….
emboldened by the beer showers, they have to break Tyler’s spirit by calling him to St. Louis
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I like BJRains' theory
Tony and the other coaches are scouring the specific results against Narveson when low and behold, Greene is 1-2 with an HR. Get on the bat phone Mo and call up Greene
did he have MiL numbers against him?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
couldn't have been much
Greene only spent 30 games in AAA in 2008 and Narveson only had 6 starts in AAA in April/May 2009. Don’t know where to find game logs for the minors.
ML isn't much either
thanks
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't effing get it
It’s like all a sudden, we actually wanna, you know, win and make the playoffs and stuff
trying to make it interesting I guess
comeback time
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, the dark days of Lobster Corgi are over
So who is the fearless mascot who will lead us to into the playoffs and October glory? I say, Tilted Baseball Helmet Corgi:
(some Photoshopper please make that a Cards helmet)
And seriously, if you’re ever having a bad day just google image search corgi puppies and you’ll feel 1000x better
by mattyp on Sep 7, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting defensive alignment.
Both Pujols and Feliz at 3rd. Groundouts are just TOO routine now, it would seem.
FUCK
i double checked it and everything. it’s because 5 is pujols number, of course.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols at 3rd
and Feliz also. Interesting strategy.
by Buckeye Redbird on Sep 7, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
so why can't greene play 3b again?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
but seriously… if we are going to sacrifice a glove for a bat (not that Greene is a terrible SS) why not get Feliz the fuck out of there?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Because the non-Feliz options...
…are defensive apocalypses (apocalypsi?) at third, or at least have been recently.
Isn't Feliz an offensive apocalypse?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but i would trust greene there a hell of a lot more than flip or mighty mouse
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
An old boss of mine used to say...
…that the key to redundancy is repeating yourself over and over again repeatedly. He said this every time we talked.
Hopefully he'll get a chance
somewhere down the line. He played there some earlier this year, no? I’d rather have Greene and 3B, Boog at SS and flip a coin on Skippy/Flopez at 2B. Narveson is a lefty, but Lopez has not hit a lick for a month or more.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 7, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i was at a wedding on saturday and missed the fun against the reds
Is there any concern about Wainwright amongts the VEB faithful?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
I think it's...
…mostly sitting at the “Uncomforable string of events we don’t really want to mention or think about for fear our acknowledgment thereof will cause the issue to flare to the forefront and thus making things all the worse,” phase of things.
Thanks for borking up the plan.
i don't believe in such things
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
whatever is going on with ADAM he will fix it.
I really think he feels sick to his stomach when he finds Miles starting at 2nd behind him. He doesn’t have the seniority that Carp does in TLRland to insist that Miles stays on the bench.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs. ~Harry Caray
oh wow, now we know that even ADAM tells baseball lies
He said Miles was a great defensive player.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs. ~Harry Caray
bad ass
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
couldn't carp just possess miles during the game?
Carp: Don’t worry about it big guy… I’ve got your back
Miles (In background): Must find luggage…. Must not give a fuck….
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that was all Miles
well the HR to the pitcher wasn’t. That was just throwing fastballs to a .150 hitter who accidentally ran into one.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
ok
well when i heard on the radio that the 3 runs were due to miles i felt better, but i just wanted to make sure
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That play by Miles was utterly attrocious.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It was after that play that we decided to squish him.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I'm concerned
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm concerned
that’s four in a row un-Waino like starts. Of course it seems the defense or offense one (or sometimes both) have not helped at all, but, for the longest, he was giving up one or two runs per game regardless of whether earned or unearned. He hasn’t been able to overcome the defensive mistakes lately.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 7, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i am also concerned.
for these same reasons. in the gameday thread, some attributed it to fatigue. he has pitched a lot of innings this year. i have no idea if that is the reason, but i am definitely worried about it.
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MLBSTLCardinals
The Cardinals have hit their most home runs (18) against 2 teams this year. Name one of the 2
houston?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
pittsburgh is the others.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Sep 7, 2010 5:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oops that is an answer to the home run question
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs. ~Harry Caray
Question for VEB
Is the street in front of your house assumed to be your parking space?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
Is it a public street?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
but not in a big city by any means
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
if so, the answer is no.
No matter how much it pisses you off.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
damn
ok thanks
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with RiverRat.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, they're all correct.
At least in my opinion. I live next to a house of worship and an extremely popular restaurant. If I don’t move my car at night, I’ll never get a spot within a block of my house.
well heres the thing
my neighbor is extremely extremely weird…. she ignores us when we try to talk to her and the only time that she has ever talked to us… it was to chew us out over a tree branch that fell out of our tree into her yard during a storm (that i had no idea about)
we were at a wedding saturday and sunday and when we come back her truck is parked in front of our house and was there all day sunday and monday till she moved it last night (to leave for work presumably). I normally wouldn’t care, but the fact that she is has not been nice to us ever and then left her truck there (when her own driveway had space for her to park) just rubbed me the wrong way
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like she's a bitch.
Or she’s got some sort of issue with normal social interaction. Unfortunately, there’s not a hell of a lot you can do about either of those. It’s more of a “grit your teeth and deal with it until she gets tired of tweaking you” situation.
well as soon as she left last night i moved my car right to that spot
but then i thought… i know she is a crazy bitch… do i really want to risk her doing shit to my car? she hasn’t ever done it before, but if it keeps occuring then im going to start parking there from here on out
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems that each of you will be living where you live for the foreseeable future.
Therefore, I would try to avoid a tit for tat type of situation that snowballs out of control. No one wants to live that way. I would just let it go.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah... i reconsidered and moved my car 10 minutes later
i really would rather not have a hassle, but damn it would be nice to not have such a fucking weirdo living next door
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
thats true
but considering that i would have to rent a truck with a boom on the end to trim this tree…
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
you know,
that branch really did upset my wife
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
there is nothing worse than not gettng along with your neighbors.
Well Colby and TLR not getting along is worse. heheheh but you know what I mean. Cardinal baseball is all consuming.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs. ~Harry Caray
I'm sensing FSN Midwest sitcom programming...
Premise: And old, crotchety, HoF former manager is irritated when a young, hip, talented superstar moves in next door. The two spar verbally and with pranks. Hilarity ensures.
Title: Out at Home
Starring – Ted Danson (as TLR), Josh Hartnett (as Colby), Ryan Reynolds (de-aged a bit, as Colby’s friend “Boog”) and Chris Cooper (as TLR’s friend ‘Dunc’) and
by dronemc on Sep 7, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
C'mon.
Jon Voight is Dave Duncan.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that you mention it,
I’ve never seen them in the same room together.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 7, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
dun dun dunnnn
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
poop on the street in front of her house
Poop, the answer to all life’s troubles
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 7, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
poop swatches?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I would park in front of her house,
see if she says anything.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i can't because one of her 19 grandchildren parks his car there
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh god, she's old.
Don’t get in a pissing match with a senior citizen, dude. They’ve got nothing but time to make your life miserable, and they’ve got nothing to distract them from their efforts in so doing.
It’s a curious game, Fredbird, the only way to win is not to play.
well apparently, according to another neighbor,
she pissed off her ex husband to the point that he would pace up and down the yard with a shotgun on his shoulder
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
well i know that since it is a public street that it is not mine (like my driveway is)
but i just always assumed that the street in front of your house was yours as a matter of courtesy
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
oh totally
i completely understand that… we live in a quiet neighborhood with very very low street traffic and very few cars per household
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
after reading more facts above, it sounds to me like she's purposely trying to get on your nerves.
which is not cool. but you really have no options for recourse that are going to make your situation any better. maybe bake a casserole or something and bring it over as a peace offering?
FREE TYLER GREENE
with poop in it?
thats what somebody else was suggesting
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
dog poop then?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
i keed keed
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 7, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting that there's no access rights
i hear of that being negotiated as part of the property, sometimes
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I know it is a small town, but the street is for public parking.
There may be a courtesy between you and your neighbors, but there is always the possibility of a domino effect.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
My old apartment used to be next to the
football field for the 2 local high school teams….If I wasn’t home from work by 5:30 (I get off at 6), I had to park 3 blocks away. I was pissed to no end every Friday during football season.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
as in it's reserved?
no, but it’s fair game for you to park there on most residential streets
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
so now that we've given Greene a message
we’re getting closer to fielding the best team our roster allows
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 7, 2010 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
at what position? second?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't really care... rosters are expanded. Might as well add him to the team once Memphis is done
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
oh--i thought you meant craig starting
and i know we all love allen craig, but he doesn’t deserve to start over jon jay at this point.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta make sure they know protocol and policy
that always comes before winning games
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this one is on Mo
the Cards waited the extra six days to offset the service time Greene earned while on the DL. Who cares that Miles had to start Saturday. Or maybe Mo was sending Tony a message too?
How were all of your Labor Day weekends?
Me: My fiancee somehow had a break from Friday until Tuesday, so she flew out here
Friday we just stayed in all day. Doing homework, etc.
Saturday I took her out for our 7 year anniversary… Took her to the Getty Villa and Griffith Observatory. Went to a house party with friends later that night, got $1 churros while drunk
Sunday we did homework most of the day, then spontaneously decided to take a trip to Vegas. So we drove there, gambled for 4 hours, and drove back at 6:00 AM on no sleep. I think it’s the most delirious I’ve ever been, trying not to crash the car on the way back…
Yesterday we went to lunch at the Counter, relaxed, ate shitty Chinese food in downtown
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
doing homework is lame.
but i love spontaneous trips to vegas. i went with my roommate last year…i got home from work at like 730 on a friday, and he was like pack your bags, we’re going to vegas. grabbed a 30-pack of CL smoothie on the way, got there about 2 in the morning, waited in line for like 30 min to check into the hotel, during which we drank several cl smoothies that we kept in his backpack. stayed up until 7, got mcdonalds breakfast, went to bed until noon, got up, threw some beers in the backpack and walked around the strip gambling at random places. stayed up until 4 am, woke up at 10 for checkout, drove home. EXCELLENT.
FREE TYLER GREENE
Male roommate?! SCANDALOUS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah it was a whole year of all scandal all the time
trying to date (other people) was interesting
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Yeah my Vegas trip was pretty lame
We sat down and played slots for 5 hours (apparently college students and $15 per hand blackjack hands don’t mix). Got lots of free drinks though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i will never, ever play games of chance for big money.
hold ’em all the way.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I had like $75. So, y'know, penny slots are the only way to make that money last any amount of time in Vegas
I need to learn to play Craps, though. Looks fun
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
fair enough.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
penny slots are key when you're in college
the first time i went to vegas, we scoped out new york new york for like 15 min until we found nickel slots right next to where the waitresses were walking out with drinks. all about location. lots of free drinks, and you win just enough to cover the tips…usually
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craps is really fun. but you should learn to count cards instead
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Um, hello? I watched 21
I’m basically an expert now
Though I am averse to getting my ass kicked by Morpheus…
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Sep 7, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i READ 21, which i recommend, given that the movie is crap
i am also now an expert. we should team up
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i love counting cards!
i don’t love getting the shit beaten out of me.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be the "Guy who was in that Beatles movie" to your "That girl famous for being really skinny"
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
sweet. the key is to not get greedy
i swear if you execute a good plan and stay at the $25 or $50 tables, you can still win a lot of money without being obvious
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went to missouri
participated in sister’s wedding
studied/did homework for about 7 hours yesterday
classes, more studying/homework until game time tonight. and probably after
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Are you still in summer school or is this real school now?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
really, i don't think
that i could spend 7 hours studying functions.
not that spending any amount of time reading about christian ethics and the categorical imperative is any easier. i’ll be pretty glad when all my non-science classes are out of the way.
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
at least my major
isn’t in working for the 6th best franchise in baseball
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
This is a poor argument.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
It's after Labor Day.
Real school is in session.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true at all
Most of the Pac 10 schools start mid to late September
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
not MU or UT
assuming those are pac man schools or whatever
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
all the oregon and washington schools start late
arizona schools have been in session almost a month
FREE TYLER GREENE
The UCs/Stanford start late, too
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
pac 10 schools
God Tier
Arizona
Good Tier
USC
UCLA
Oregon State
Shit Tier
Stanford
Oregon
ASU
Washington
Washington St
Cal
FREE TYLER GREENE
USC needs to be higher
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i thought you might say that
i wanted to put it in the shit tier
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If USC were a separate nation, it would be 4th all time in Olympic medals, I believe
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
If Montana were a seperate nation,
it would be the third largest nuclear power.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
if arizona were a separate nation, it would be 1st all time in partying.
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pac 10 school
god tier:
good tier:
shit tier:
arizona
usc
ucla
oregon state
stanford
oregon
arizona state
washington
wasington state
cal
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
got a question.
so, greene was called up after sept 1, but was on the 25 man earlier in the season. is he still postseason eligible?
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
No.....
unless shenanigans ensue.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Wouldn't the fake injury/DL stint and rehab assignment conspire to make him eligible?
Or are those the shenanigans to which you were referring?
yes, someone that is eligible for the roster
would have to go on the DL.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
so you're saying if jeff suppan got injured again, tyler greene could take his spot?
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Yes, I believe so.
He was on the DL as of 8/31, so that makes him eligible for the PS roster. Someone else would also get the shaft though….Salas (I think he was on the roster on 8/31)?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
is that a question
or an offer?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 7, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
it used to be that if a pitcher got hurt
he had to be replaced with a pitcher. i think they may have changed that, but I’m not sure.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
yes, they changed that.
Anyone on the 40 is eligible.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i think
it’s anyone in the organization as of sept 1 can be called up. so, zack cox could be called up
or maybe that’s only if the injured player is placed on the 60-day DL
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
I think we actually had this discussion last year...lol
but ya, I was going to type that, but they would have to be on the 40 man in order to be on the MLB roster correct? In your example though, Cox is on the 40 man.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
there is an instance
where they don’t need to be on the 40-man. cox was a bad example. it’s anyone that was in the organization prior to sept 1. so if carp’s arm is amputated and he’s placed on the 60-day DL, shelby miller could be added to the 40- and 25-man rosters and pitch in the playoffs
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
and yes,
this conversation was had last year and this is what i’m remembering. i think i have at least the basic premise correct. might be wrong about some details, though
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
right...
and I had to bust your balls about the Cox example.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
leave my balls and my cox alone
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Sep 7, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
heh heh heh
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
better question:
why the fuck are we talking about the postseason? bad karma, man.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi my name is irony
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Sep 7, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Trever Miller unavailable with elbow stiffness
this is not a drill
et cetera
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yay diner!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 7, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
6 games back
go up in flames, reds! red hot!
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 6:51 PM EDT reply actions
and i just finished "good will, duty and the categorical imperative"
by kant. pretty much the hardest 8 pages i’ve ever read in my life. not only is the subject so uninteresting, but it’s written in the most difficult to understand language
“And he must concede that the ground of the obligation here must therefore be sought not in the nature of man nor in the circumstances of the world in which man is place, but must be sought a priori solely in the concepts of pure reason; he must grant that every other precept which is founded on principles of mere experience — even a precept that may in certain respects be universal — insofar as it rests in the least on empirical grounds — perhaps only in its motive — can indeed be called a practical rule, but never a moral law.”
fuck you. yes, that’s all one sentence
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
the semicolon is like a slutty comma. learn to love it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the which philosopher are you quiz always says that I am Kant
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
have I revealed too much?
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, even as a philosopher, I'm not even a fan of Kant's writing style.
Basically Kant is saying here that he believes moral law needs to be a universal structure of existence anyone can reflect upon (without any particular kind of experience) so that morality itself can be objective and universal.
Leave it to me (long time reader), the philosophy grad student, to make my first actual post at VEB about philosophy and not baseball.
you'll fit right in.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
but can you choose a stapler?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
only took chitown 4 months.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's a kickass stapler though
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll resist the urge
to do the pretentious, trite philosopher thing, and ask if we even know if any particular stapler exists. ;)
It only exists the moment someone senses it. Duh.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 7, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
SSS
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
by SleepyCA on Sep 7, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I will rec ANY post that humorously uses SSS out of context.
book it. And enjoy your rec.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 8, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
at least i'm not completely out of line
but i’m a science major and this stuff kills me
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
If this helps, I'll put it this way -
Sometimes, TLR’s managing style makes more sense to me than Kant’s ramblings.
So, uh, we'll rectify that embarrassing fact with this fact:
If Kant and Hegel had played baseball, Kant would have crushed him. Why? Because thesis, antithesis, synthesis in baseball would look like single, bunt, single (to score a run). And we all know that bunting is generally bad baseball.
so, basically
TLR would constantly bench kant in favor of hegel?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Sep 7, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if this kind of stuff were in my textbook
i would be able to much more easily grasp this stuff
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
I'll get right on writing the next intro-philosophy textbook.
I can see it now- TLR: How not to do philosophy (or baseball).
Or better yet- TLR: what age does to good philosophy (or baseball).
Who would have thought that TLR would have something in common with all the arcane tenured dinosaurs of professors who should have retired years ago? ;)
hegel has more grit?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think I'd rather have the nearly two-hundred year dead corpse of Hegel on this team than Miles.
So, if corpses can have grit, yes.
awesome
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Philosophy is always better to talk about in a cockney accent
“Awww mate, I just read this facking book about good will and that, written by some Kant”
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 8, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's a rec.
just for bringing a cockney accent to the discussion.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 8, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
so, the last 20 hours
have been pretty interesting. Wife made me pick up a stray kitten on the side of the road. I hate cats. It is now living in our basement. Woke up this morning to go to work and the whole house smelled like burning shit. Turns out it was coming from the refrigerator. had to unplug said refrigerator and leave it sitting all day because there was no way to miss work today. Stared at a computer all day listening to orientation BS for my new job. Came home, cleaned up the 3 gallons of water that had leaked out of refrigerator. Plugged said refrigerator back in for 30 seconds, just long enough to have whole house smelling like burnt shit once again. Now I’m sitting here waiting on my cousin/repairman to show up to tell me that my refrigerator is shot and I’m going to have to drop 2 grand on a new one, not to mention all the damn food wasted by it sitting all day.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
ah...the joys of being a home owner.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that sucks
you make what i was just complaining about seem kind of lame
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
oh yeah? well
I’ve been on a diet every day since I was nineteen, which basically means I’ve been hungry for a decade. I’ve had a series of not nice boyfriends, one who hit me, and every time I get my heart broken, the newspapers splash it about as though it’s entertainment. And it’s taken two rather painful operations to get me looking like this. And, one day not long from now, my looks will go, they will discover I can’t act and I will become some sad middle-aged woman who looks a bit like someone who was famous for a while.
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I saw a really nice Fridge at Lowe's for $712 before taxes
Whirlpool stainless steel double door
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 7, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
very nice: update
my cousin showed up, tore into the back of the thing and discovered the water line to the non-functional ice maker had a pinhole leak that was blowing right into some of the wires going into the compressor. He replaced a part, didn’t charge me for it, and only charged me $65 for the service call! Plus the Cards game is on now! Life is good. In other news, he wouldn’t take the kitten and its crapped in my basement twice since I’ve been home. Anyone want a kitten? If no, anyone up for some Chinese food?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Nick Stavinoha, everyone.
no word on whether he’s genuflecting
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Anyone notice that
The Cardinals minor league system overall ended up with the best record in baseball this year.
don't insult that guy
calling him Miles
really
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
heh
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
depends on how much you need it
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i know I could save a few bucks if I bought off ebay
Impatience plays into this
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 7, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It is nice having that 3G built in
I used to have a kindle before.
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 7, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm never very far away from Wi-Fi
and when I am in those places, the last thing I’m thinking about is shopping for a book.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Same with me.
The only time I’m far away from WiFi and might consider buying a book is while driving, and I shouldn’t be playing with the Kindle then anyway.
Porn
porn
porn
porn
porn
…….
shopping for a book.
?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 8, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Mostly
Drinking
Drinking
Drinking
Drinking
Drinking
………
Shopping for a book.
About the only places I can think of that don’t have Wi-Fi are places where I’m drinking: bars, restaurants, baseball games, tailgating, and camping.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
not it
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that smile on Tyler Greene's face is from
the BEER OF VICTORY
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
breaking news, eh?
Fox_Sports_MW Cal just got off the phone with TLR, he will be talking Colby v. Tony next on the pregame!!! 14 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
File that under "N" for nobody cares.
Write that down.
by Ghostrider520 on Sep 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
it was only cool because we got to see Cal using the phone on-air
like it’s really live
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That is all they talked about on the radio
I liked what Bernie said though. If they trade Rasmus. Everyone should be fired
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
in other news, Mayor Daley will not be running or mayor again
what world is this?
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
a game.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there is nobody in either of them
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someone figure it out. i have an mlb.tv problem that needs fixing from veb
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