Minor League pennant races
by DanUpBaby on Sep 3, 2010 3:08 PM EDT
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PrintJaime Garcia is going to face off against Bronson Arroyo tonight. I'm excited about that, but I don't want to talk much about it; we've rehashed the Cardinals' NL Central collapse time enough that I'm going to need some new inputs, like Jaime Garcia hurling a shutout here, for instance, before I can do it again.
But there's other pennant races—pennant races that are much closer to completion. For instance:
After smashing the Burlington squad 20-2 in their last regular season game, the rookie-level Johnson City Cardinals are going to the Appalachian League Championship Series. It's a best-of-three contest against the Elizabethton Twins, and if necessary it will go Friday, Saturday, and Sunday night.
The Johnson City team went 42-24, the best record in the league, thanks mostly to some outstanding hitting; their OPS is .793, compared to second place's .755.
Phillip Cerreto doesn't have the at-bats to qualify for the league leaders due to injury, but he's hit .425/.460/.758 in 32 games, with 15 doubles, seven home runs, and six stolen bases. A third baseman who's played all around the corners, he was drafted in the 40th round by the Cardinals and is currently 22, so pummeling the Appalachian League doesn't give us a lot to go on re: future prospects. But he's been vital in the pennant race this year.
The best full season of hitting has come from Oscar Taveras, who's hitting .322/.362/.526 in 53 games. Just 18—he hit .257/.338/.392 in the DSL last year—he's definitely worth watching. They also saw solid stints from this year's polished hitting-catcher draftee, Cody Stanley, and last year's bloodlines pick, Virgil "Quicksilver, Jr." Hill. And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention designated hitter Kleininger Teran, who has the best name ever and also hit .303.
The short-season Batavia Muckdogs also won their division title, with a 43-28 record. They've got the second highest OPS in their league, led by fifth-rounder Nicholas Longmire. He's hitting .287/.370/.481, with six triples, nine home runs, and 12 stolen bases. Jonathan Rodriguez, a 17th rounder from last season, leads the team in home runs with 12, good for third in the New York-Penn League.
The low-A Quad Cities River Bandits clinched a spot in the Midwest League playoffs thanks to their second-half pay—after finishing second in the first half of the split season format they pulled three games ahead of Cedar Rapids in the second half to finish 81-53. Like seemingly ever Cardinals minor league squad, they featured some dominant hitting—third in the Midwest League—but they also had a certain Shelby Miller on their side. Miller finished fourth in the league in strikeouts—three off the lead—despite finishing with 40 innings fewer than the leader.
The hitters were paced by Matthew Adams, the only River Bandit to play a full season with the club. He hit .310 with a league-leading 22 home runs and 88 RBI, though he did manage just 33 walks. The team also got excellent half-seasons from Niko Vasquez (.242/.381/.425) and center fielder D'Marcus Ingram (.324/.399/.497.)
Your Defending PCL Champion Memphis Redbirds have one last run to make the playoffs, which is why we won't see Tyler Greene and Allen Craig for another few days. If they win this weekend series against the Iowa Cubs, they'll clinch a playoff spot and a chance to defend their championship. If they don't, well, we'll see Allen Craig and Tyler Greene sooner, but they'll probably be depressed about it.
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I'm looking forward
To watching Memphis as they push for the playoffs.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 3, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
I mentioned this to Goold on his Birdland page on FB.
And he asked me “Why”. I guess as in why be happy about it and not have the good players from Memphis up here playing for the big club.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 3, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
viva el birdos pequenos
nice to see some birdos doing well
the big team is beyond hope
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
re naming names
Kleininger Teran is certainly formidable, but I’m not sure it gets the nod over Tagg Bozied.
#intrigue #douche
@JoeStrauss Hearing some intrigue at the ballpark and we’re still 4 1/2 hours before first pitch at Busch. Developing.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
its nothing
@JoeStrauss
John Cueto did not accompany Reds to St. Louis. Absence due to “serious family issue.” Brandon Phillips back in lineup after wrist boo-boo.
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That's it?
That’s it?!
God I hate Strauss
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
more
@JoeStrauss Reds insist Cueto’s absence totally unrelated to this series. No details yet offered on family issue. Mgr. Baker may elaborate later.
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he got scurt
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not staying up until midnight
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I'm still amazed that the lil brandon phillips controversy started because Carpenter requested a more standard baseball
unbelievable
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
not only Carpenter
but John F. Smoltz
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
so requesting this makes one a huge complainer and a small female dog?
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i love carp
but if he wasn’t on my team i would probably think he was an ass. not for the ball incident in particular, just because i can see why people would think that. but i love him!
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I dunno
I’d think he’s pretty much a badass. he got through so many big injuries and is still effective, he screams random expletives, and seems generally a little crazy. seems cool to me.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
exactly
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a white Zambrano.
I have no problem with other team’s fans not liking him.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
he's far from zambrano
z is an ass
carp is badass
he also doesn’t hurt random gatorade containers and throw fits in the dugout
he would politely take you to the tunnel and tell you what he wants and that’s it
if he were on another team i would hate him for not being on my team
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
He threw a hissy fit, on the field, because Carlos Lee hit a pop up earliier this year.
If he wasn’t a Cardinal, he’d just be an ass.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I disagree
he seems pretty smart and classy overall
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
he's just overly competitive
you don’t see him causing controversy with his teammates, knocking over coolers, and being dumb in general
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
scratch the first part
luggage!
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're talking about Wainwright, I agree.
If you’re talking about Carp, it’s like we watch different pitchers. He’s a hot head and it effects his actual performance quite frequently.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 3, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I guess I meant off the field he seems smart
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he seems like a cool dude.
It’s just REALLY easy for me to see why people think he’s an ass.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
there has to be some level of frustration built up within the guy having been injured so much
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
When did this start?
I don’t remember him doing these types of things in ’04, ’05, or ’06. But, maybe I just forgot.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 3, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Last two years.
This year, it’s like something is seriously wrong with him.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
seriously awesome
but I still wonder what he said to Dusty… that might lower my opinion of him
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
cock sucker.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
ok
that’s fair game
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
it is hardball, after all
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats what was reported.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
one of the national writers
can’t remember the specifics though. I only remember because he also described it as an insult known to man from boardroom to bar (or something similar) and it tickled my word fancy.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
No, it was in the article as well.
Well it was something lame like “c-s-” but the point was made.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
FOR FUCKS SAKE
I already said I can’t remember.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
what kind of writer are you not taking notes of these things
just bustin your balls man, simmer down fuuu
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
See, that's what Carp would be like on the internet.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I thought it was "cock sucker" as well,
but VEB opinion over ruled me to believe that it was fuck you.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That might be my best post on VEB.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 3, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that wouldn't be saying much
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I noticed it in the past but it didn't bother me.
This year, I’ve been wishing he would tone it down a bit. Not because I mind his antics as much as because it seems to be effecting his performance.
"I'll be in the conversation at the end of the year." Adam Wainwright
he didn't throw a hissy fit
he just showed lee that you don’t show chris carpenter up
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
when he got hit by that edwin jackson fastball
that was classic
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn't show him up.
Why are we making excuses for the guy?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
lack of perspective?
Or was that a rhetorical question?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 3, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm trying to explain why other teams fans think he's an ass.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I don't see why being angry at yourself for popping out is showing the pitcher up
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
he's not that over the top
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi Cards fans,
First, want to say that if any RR folk come over here trolling (win or lose) feel free to email me after you ban their asses. We’re trying to minimize the bad behavior on the internetz as much as possible.
Second, re: Carpenter, I think it’s more than the ‘rubbed balls’ incident. He has a bit of a history of losing his temper and griping at people. Still, if he was on my team I’d love him, just like I love BP, but would probably hate BP if he played for someone else.
Anyway, I hope we have a nice, clean series with no trolling on either end. Enjoy!
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah but brandon phillips isn't that good
he has no place to talk
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Brandon Phillips has been worth 4.2 WAR this season
You must operate under a different definition of “not that good” than I do
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
Carp does not give a fuck about little bitches
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont see an insult there.
he’s explaining why the reds fans don’t like carpenter, and everything he said is pretty much right.
disclaimer: IHeartCarpenter
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yes, but he also said he likes brandon phillips. eeeewwwww
kidding around here.
but seriously. I can see why reds fans would not like carp. but to compare it to how i feel about BP boggles my mind.
to me, there is no comparison. Carp is an A-1 good guy who occasionally let’s his emotions get the best of him and BP is a douchebag.
"I'll be in the conversation at the end of the year." Adam Wainwright
i agree that the comparison is not a good one
but i think the point was, we usually love the people on our team, regardless of how douchey or dick-faced they are.
i think we’re all a little on edge from this morning’s troll(s), but i’m inclined to give everyone a chance. like someone said in the other thread, i would hate for this to be a place where other teams’ fans weren’t welcome.
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woah?
there were trolls in the morning thread?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah one for sure who got banned, and then one who may or may not have been a troll, depending on who you ask
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i dont want to mess with going back and forth between threads (im at work)
what were they trolling about? just being dicks cause the reds are in first?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
good thing i missed it then
i was too busy getting bad news of my own
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
mrs. fredbird and i lost a pregnancy
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, i am really sorry
i don’t know what else to say but i hope she recovers quickly
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
thanks to all (RiverRat and IHeartBoog)
she is doing fine now physically… its tough though mentally
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Went thru that in June.
Sorry to hear that Fredbird. It’s not a fun thing to deal with.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 3, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry to hear about that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Really sorry to hear that. Quite a tragedy.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 3, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Very sorry to hear it ...
it’s a wrench. Particular condolences to Mrs. Fredbird.
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Been There
Truly, truly sorry to hear that.
by WizardofOz1982 on Sep 6, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
the one main guy had a post that said votto > pujols. discuss.
it went downhill from there. when he mentioned the glenn beck rally, the robot banned him.
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aside from the obvious insanity i know followed
did we defend pujols adequately?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
in regards to stats etc...?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Looked like this
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
is that a less pale version of the guy from The Princess Bride?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
You poor soul,
you’ve never seen It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia, have you?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
nope
i pretty much have quit watching tv outside of south park, mythbusters, and cardinals baseball
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, it's on HULU, and you should watch it.
If you’re a SP fan, I’m sure you’ll enjoy it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I thought
he looked like this:
As I stated in the last thread.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 3, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
after reading that your picture makes a ton of sense.
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh
I love when Stewie does it:
You look like Snoopy and it makes me smile
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 3, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
sadly it takes a lot to get banned around here, so i wouldn't worry about it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
lineup
Schumaker 4, Jay 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Rasmus 8, Molina 2, Feliz 5, Ryan 6, Garcia 1
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
decent
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty much what I meant
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
imagine the possibilities...
after sweeping the best team in the NL with this lineup, why would you NOT use it every day
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Ask Tony
We swept them last time with this lineup and he promptly went back to his crap.
Fire Tony La Russa
Was that so hard, Tony?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 3, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hooray no Miles!
and Rasmus in the 5th sport. Tony must want to win this one.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
HI LARUSSA IN THE TRUCK
i’m partial to
skip
jay
pujols
holliday
colby (if he’s healthy)
molina
feliz
ryan
pitcher
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“While SPINNING.”
by IHeartBoog on Aug 31, 2010 1:29 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
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So, TLR is suddenly deciding to field a lineup that gives the team the best chance to win again?
He only seems to do this against the Reds.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 3, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
He just wanted to create as much drama as possible on the Cards road to 100 wins this year.
Back in March…
Dunc: So, how many should we inexplicably goof up before we go on a tear?
TLR: Hmm, not sure.
Dunc: I think we should look dead for the latter part of August, and then make a dramatic run to the finish line.
TLR: Sounds good, how does winning the last 31 in a row to get to 100 wins sound?
Dunc:……Well, a little unlikely for starters…
TLR: No, no, we’ve got this. I was talking to my cats this morning, and…
Dun: Oh christ, not the cats again…
TLR: …they told me that it’d be really cool if we looked like our bacon was cooked, and then ran off an insane stretch of wins.
Dunc: Uh…
TLR: I didn’t care for the bacon analogy – you know, vegetarian – but I really think they’re onto something. It would totally prove my genius if we swooped up, phoenix-like, from the ashes of a dead season.
Dunc: Taking season-compromising advice from your cats would prove your genius?
TLR: They’re russian long-haireds.
(Carpenter walks in, overhearing the last part of the conversation.)
Carp: CHRIS CARPENTER DOES NOT GIVE A F*** ABOUT THE LaRUSSA CATS’ PLANS FOR THE CARDINALS!
Dunc: Oh, Chris, uh, hi.
Carp: CHRIS CARPENTER DOES NOT GIVE A F*** ABOUT MAKING A DRAMATIC FINISH!
TLR: I think you should be on board with this, Carp.
Dunc: Why are you yelling, Chris? Have you been hanging out with Samuel L. Jackson again?
Carp: (thinks for a moment) CHRIS CARPENTER DOES NOT GIVE A F*** ABOUT WHO HE HANGS OUT WITH!
Dunc: Do you have to shout?
Carp: YES I HAVE TO SHOUT!
TLR: So, the cats think that we should sweep the Reds in August, then lose 8 of 10 to the Pirates, Nats, and Astros. Their plan is brilliant – everyone will think we’re awful, but then – wait for it…wait for it – we rock the house against the good teams! Isn’t it awesome? Everyone will think I’ve saved the season!
Dunc: (shaking his head, getting up to leave) Fine, Tony. I’ll go tell Ottavino and Hawk to be ready for some spot starts. You might want to tell Mozlie….Moeliz…Mytzlplk…..tell JOHN that we might want to take a look at Suppan if he shakes loose from Milwaukee to help execute this plan of yours.
TLR: I can’t take all the credit. My cats had the idea.
Carp: CHRIS CARPENTER DOES NOT GIVE A F*** ABOUT CATS GETTING CREDIT!
(Dunc leaves, still shaking head.)
by dronemc on Sep 3, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
like this?
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2014/pulpcardinals.png
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i made it after Carp almost luggaged Edwin Jackson
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonderful
My favorite line was “Oh Christ, not the cats again.”
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 3, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much the best guys available are out there, I suppose
Skippy’s hit a lot better over the past few months and I guess the team’s forced to play Feliz now. I guess all things considered this isn’t too bad. 3/4/5 looks pretty awesome!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 3, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
hey guys
been wondering about this and im genuinely curious to know what you all think. What do you guys think the team would be like now if Jocketty had been retained instead of fired following the 07 season? This is in no way a slam against Mo (who I still am holding out hope for) its just a discussion topic. Personally I feel that Jocketty is getting way too much credit for “building” the team that Wayne Krivsky put together. I also have lost a lot of respect for Walt if the rumors about him and his bitching to other G.M.s about Mozeliak. I lose respect because isn’t that basically the exact same thing that Walt did in Cincinnati when Castellini hired him as an “admininstrative assistant” or whatever title it was that he was conferred?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
i think its tough to say because of the supposed "chasm" between ways of thinking in the FO
it was apparent that people did not get along and had very different philosophies on how to build the team. because of that, if he had stayed, things would have only gotten worse, i believe.
OTOH, if we assume that such “chasm” didn’t exist, and jocketty was on the same page as the rest of the FO, i can’t imagine we would be in a much better position now. the farm system was BAD with jocketty here, at some point we would have run out of pieces to trade….oh, wait.
i do think, thought, that jocketty seems to be much more savvy than mo.
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well i was just thinking about some of the trades that jocketty pulled off
getting waino, walker, rolen…seems like we always got more than we gave up.
i dont feel that way with some of mo’s trades. we needed westbrook, but we gave up way too much. my feeling is that jocketty could have done that deal without losing ludwick. but i really don’t know much about it other that what i’ve witnessed over the past 10 years
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i agree
i’m afraid jmo only makes moves when it is absolutely necessary
and then, in a panic, over pays
it started, for me, when he spent on both holly and rosy
we didn’t need both
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
IMO
the organizational direction (as seen 3 months ago) is better now than it was under Jocketty. Also, I think the Jocketty/Larussa relationship worked better than the Mo/Larussa relationship in terms of organizational philosophy. Larussa did well with the Jocketty philosophy, but MO needs a different manager to fully execute his.
do you think that we would have seen the likes of feliz... macdougal... etc?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
like I said, I’m talking the organizational direction as seen 3 months ago was better. I don’t know what to make of the moves since then. A shift in philosophy? A desperate, uninformed attempt to do something, ANYthing? A LaRussa tax? I’m sure there’s some of all of those involved. And although most of the moves have been bad, some are at least defensible (Suppan, Westbrook trade, maybe some others) Obviously this offseason will be the most telling of Mo’s career.
things that don't cost money
is the answer
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
We probably would have traded Colby, not have drafted Miller or Cox or likely signed Matias.
We would probably have Oswalt or Halladay on the team in addition to maybe Craig Counsell or Miguel Tejada, maybe Eric Hinske, just kind of throwing out names…Dave Bush? Doug Davis? Jon Garland? Jeff Suppan of course. Miguel Cairo a lock. Just a lot more resources going into the “screw the kids, play the vets” strategy.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
I'm beginning to wonder how many of the positives of Mo's tenure can be attributed to Lunhow
Mo just seems a less accomplished wheeler and dealer than Jocketty
Yeah I agree, but I think Luhnow overall is more valuable than Jocketty
So I’d rather have Luhnow and Mo than Jock and meh.
Fire Tony La Russa
Nyjer Morgan doesn't think he did anything wrong.
Morgan said he didn’t know about his latest suspension until MLB.com told him over the phone. He believes he didn’t do anything wrong.
“Man, they threw the book at me.” Morgan said "What did I do? I feel I haven’t done anything. They are blowing this way out of proportion because I’m a hard-nosed player — because I knocked over a catcher. They throw the ball at me. Come on, what am I supposed to do? I have to take this and try to keep playing.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I kind of see his point
He shouldn’t be arguing with fans. He shouldn’t have bumped Anderson. And he has to get SOME kind of suspension for charging the mound.
That said, I don’t want players on my team that stop trying to win they are down 10 runs (stealing bases), and throwing at him twice in one game, for stealing bases, is lame. I’d have charged too. I also don’t have a HUGE problem with the hit he laid on the catcher. Was it a hard hit? Yea. But Morgan had no clue how close or not close that play was going to be. He had to make up his mind a good 5 steps before the plate that he was going in hard, no time to change that b/c the throw was high and up the line.
The kid seems like a hot head, but I only have a problem with a couple of things he’s done.
throwing behind someone is not throwing at them
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
is this a joke that I've missed somewhere?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 3, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
no?
They threw at Morgan once. They hit him. He stole two bases.
The second time they didn’t throw at him. They thew behind him. Which is different. He wasn’t in danger of getting hit.
Not getting hit is different than getting hit.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
and one doesn't hurt
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Matter of fact, he wasn't even mad the time he got hit.
He might not have agreed, but he understood. I think.
seriously
he charged the mound because a pitch that wasn’t even close to hitting him.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
yeah. i can understand him being upset about it
but charging the mound is a little egregious considering the situation. if they had actually hit him, then i might understand
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no imagine if lego had charged the mound the other night
for being thrown behind
bloody noses, broken jaws
and lego even had more reason than morgan to charge – they hurt him the night before for no reason.
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
He tried to hit him again and missed. Are you saying Nyjer should only be mad...
if the pitcher succeeds in hitting him?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 3, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
he didn't try to hit him though
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Same difference
Either way, it’s trying to make a point that I don’t agree with.
Not running up the score on a team doesn’t mean that team should stop trying. Play the full 9 innings.
it's not about stop trying
it’s about
a) when your team is down 10, you don’t go around stealing bases because every body on the bag counts and if you get thrown out, you’re only hurting your team
b) he was showing up the marlins by stealing 2 bags on two back to back pitches
you show the opposing team up, they give you a warning – charging the mound was inexcusable, there was no reason for it but he got his ass beat so the balance of the universe has been restored
enjoy your 15 games suspension nyjer. call cueto, you will be besties
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
when you compare the two
Cueto got off easy. Morgan isn’t
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
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andrewdmoses Jim Edmonds in the house. 8 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you've got a couple of hours to calm down
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm heading to busch
if you hear something about a random chick getting arrested there, it’s probably a safe bet to think it’s me
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
oooh oooh
before they handcuff you, will you do this dance?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 3, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
d-dee.....
a photo request for you…I’ve been looking for a good high res looking from home plate out to center at around dusk. If you could hook that up, I would be grateful.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
panoramic?
i don’t have a wide angle w me today but i might be able to do that tomorrow
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
by d-dee on Sep 3, 2010 6:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, and thanks if you do.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i just realized its JAIME GARCIA day
Jaime Garcia -
if he wants to be a
rookie of the year
his best chance starts here.
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by IHeartBoog on Sep 3, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Let's hope the Cardinals get a W tonight
Or at least look like they have some life. However if they fail again, I can always watch this
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 3, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
Hi Dr. Nick!
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 3, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi there.....
I was re-reading and saw you’re not going to scout school. Sorry about that. What happened, if you don’t mind me asking.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Oh, it was just a simple chronology thing
The way it goes is:
1) Get an internship with the team
2) Go to scout school
I was trying to bypass that first step entirely, and since the Mariners are already sending 3 guys to scout school, there was simply no room for me. No hurt feelings, a little disappointment, but still optimistic about a job with them in the future
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Is it possible you'd be able to go in the future?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Oh yeah, definitely. It's an annual thing, so hopefully I'll be going next year
I guess on a semi-related note:
How do you “keep in touch” with a guy you met like twice who you want to use for a job in the future?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Christmas card?
Occasional email, updating your schooling and graduating date showing you still have interest, may be your best bet.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
In all seriousness
RiverRat’s suggestion is the way to go.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 3, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose I'll do this
My only concern is that it’s somewhat different with the head of scouting (who probably isn’t hugely computer savvy and is on the road a lot), than with other front office guys
But that’s still way less awkward than to call him and saying "Hey man! What’s up!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
How ironic/awesome would this shirt be?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
chapman
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Man
talk about strikin’ a hardcore pose
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 3, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean you know it's a hardcore pose
Just look at the guy in the reds shirt and his nipples
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 3, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Must be cold in there.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
He's overly excited to be next to that thunderbolt-heaving left arm
Good thing the reporter-in-the-white-shirt’s shoulder is in the way.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 3, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Big night for Springfield and Memphis
Memphis is tied with Iowa. Go Memphis. Boo Cubs. I wish I could watch this game.
Springfield is playing Tulsa and if they win, they are guaranteed a playoff spot.
"I'll be in the conversation at the end of the year." Adam Wainwright
Minor league audio links, if you need ’em.
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
by The Continental on Sep 3, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
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andrewdmoses First Phillips/Cards fans reaction ended with Phillips doing the cupped hand to ear thing. 4 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Followed up by a big boot/Leg drop?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 3, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Phillips playing the heel
Did he rip off his jersey and flash his nWo shirt? :)
"Dusty Baker is the best manager in the game....until the game actually starts."
— Doug Gottleib, ESPN radio, June 3, 2010.
by cesarhernandez on Sep 3, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
What're your favorite Beatles songs?
This class is making me rediscover a lot of songs I’ve forgotten about…
Right now, I’m rocking “Please Please Me” and “I’ve Just Seen a Face”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I, Me, Mine.
I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
by The Continental on Sep 3, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
ha, before I even scrolled down to see what your song choices were
I was gonna say that “I’ve Just Seen a Face” is criminally underrated/underplayed
as for some of my favorites, other than the obvious ones that everyone loves,
I like “I’m Only Sleeping,” “I’m So Tired,” “I Will,” “The Sun King,” “Two of Us,” “And Your Bird Can Sing” …
i also absolutely love every song on the sgt. pepper album except, ironically, the title cut.
a day in the life is awesome. but i guess maybe that’s “obvious”
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Did you know A Day in the Life was actually two separate songs, written by Paul and John?
They didn’t really have plans for them and didn’t know how to improve the songs… so they just combined them and recorded “A Day in the Life”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i DID know that.
did you know the human head weighs eight pounds?*
*matt holliday not included
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I did not know that.
Did YOU know that the word alphabet is just alpha + beta – a?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I remember recording that off of KSHE's album of the week.
I love that whole thing.
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
by The Continental on Sep 3, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine
1. A Day in the Life
2. We Can Work It Out
3. Eleanor Rigby
Not exactly unique choices, I’m sure, but hey it’s all about what speaks to you, right?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 4, 2010 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
getting ready to head down.
do i boo brandon phillips or should i take bernie’s/fritz’s advice and applaud him. i’m torn.
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 3, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
maybe i'll pick up some chicks.
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 3, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, canadians.
but preferably russians or americans, please. off i go.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 3, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
as the season comes to a close, i find myself asking the same question, why do i love baseball?
especially during this season of epic disappointment, why do i put so much effort into something people i don’t even know play? why have i dedicated so much of my life to one game? well this is what i came up with
Baseball, that grand old game, is purely American much like apple pie & the 4th Of July. It’s our game, it is our national past time. it doesn’t matter that the folks at the WWL tell us baseball is old, slow & not nearly as flashy & exciting as handegg or basketball. it’s true, some baseball games can be painfully slow. but there is no clock because there doesn’t need to be one. Each inning you get 3 outs & you get 9 of those innings to score more than your opponent. And whether those 9 inning take 2 hours or 8 hours, that’s as long as they take. And if you’re lucky, maybe you’ll get more than those 9 innings.
Baseball is a beautiful game that satisfies all your senses. It’s hot dogs, peanuts & cracker jacks, ice cold beer, or soda if you’re a kid. It’s long warm summer days & hopefully long cold autumn night. It’s falling asleep in front of your TV on lazy Sunday afternoons. It’s sitting by a radio at work, school or in your garage changing some spark plugs, cursing your local 9’s bad luck & calling the umpire’s every name in the book. It’s freshly cut grass & the perfect sound of when ball meets bat. It’s the chills you get when you hear the crown roar. It’s the anger you feel when the crowd reacts to a bad play or call by the umpires.
Baseball is a cruel game. It pulls you in at the beginning of spring, when the cold dark winter has just ended. It fills you with hope & teases you with the greatness that might be as the summer rolls along. And when the fall comes, it breaks your heart when you realize that greatness will never be. And it stars all over again the next spring. And through it all, you love ever minute of it. Truly she is the cruelest of mistresses because she keeps you coming back for more & more. Baseball is your first true love. there was no one before her, and those that come after her will never make you feel the same way she does. she will always be on your mind & forever in your heart. no matter what happens, you will always love her.
Baseball is family. It’s playing catch with your dad in the back yard. It’s learning how to keep score with your uncle at the ball park. It’s hearing stories about Stan the Man & The Babe from your grandpa. It’s buying your son his first glove when he’s only a week old. It’s telling your grand kids that you saw the greatest player of all time Albert Pujols do things mere mortals could never dream of doing.
Baseball for all her wonder & glory isn’t a perfect game. the players who play her aren’t perfect. the coaches & mangers who try to dictate her aren’t perfect. the umpires who try to control her aren’t perfect. the GM’s & owners who try & profit from her aren’t perfect. the governing body & commissioner who oversee her aren’t perfect.
So yes because of her flaws & the flawed people who participate in her, baseball isn’t perfect. But every time you step on that diamond, it has a chance to be. And that’s why I love baseball.
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
by gdm426 on Sep 3, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I think he used to have one...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
RIP ATAW
thanks for the luv, IHB. that just came to me the other night & i thought some of VEB might like it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
My favorite part is the large pair of boobies
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
in all honesty that's probably the best thing about ATAW
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
is that really you, because its all capitalized correctly with properly grammar and punctuation
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i know right?
but ya, ATAW is all me. my cousin was supposed to write to but he got marred & had kids, so his free time was all taken up. the jerk
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
CRACKER FUCKING JACK.
rec’d
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the weather tonight is fuckin brilliant
wonder if the wind will carry the ball
adam wainwright got a present from a little girl w down syndrome, he was real nice
2 teen girls at the reds dugout wanted to get their drawing of the reds signed – fail. however they were telling their dad they were shaking w excitement. yeah, daddy wants to know you drop your panties for ball players
if you thought brandon phillips and johnny gomes were douchebags, you were right on the money. i had to behold bp watch all of his hits and yell yeah and dance after each. shallow to mid cf, all of them
jim hayes aparently answers to another nickname – “cookie”
i hope this game doesnt blow
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
by d-dee on Sep 3, 2010 7:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ok, just saw Albert bearhug a short guy in the dugout...
picked him up off the ground and brought him back down. Did he just bearhug Fernando Salas?
'Hold my stones!'
----Always smooth----
Wait wait wait
Shelby Miller was 4th in strikeouts
And had 40 less IP than the others ahead of him?!
Towel please
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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