This Week Around SB Nation
by DanUpBaby on Sep 27, 2010 2:07 AM EDT
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PrintIt's time for another episode of everyone's favorite irregularly scheduled, irregularly written look at what's going on with SB Nation Cardinals coverage outside the front page of this very website. That's right—let's go around SB Nation.
SB Nation St. Louis
On Friday we ran an excellent piece by one Alex Fritz about what we'll miss and not miss about the 2010 season. Excerpt!
The Biiiiig 550, KTRS: I feel sorry that John Marecek, a non-hyperbolic, actual level-headed sports talk show host, will be losing his greatest platform, but I also realize he's talented enough that he will do just fine anyway. That being said, never having to hear John Hadley say another word on a radio station is reason enough for the Cardinals to move back to KMOX.
I like to think that the day John Hadley said - and I quote - "Randy Winn has been a more productive baseball player than Colby Rasmus" is the day the Cardinals origination decided to shut it down. That I can move on with my life pretending that John Hadley and Frank O'Pinion (clever name! hilarious sound effects! radio genius!) never existed... I will open-mouth kiss whoever made the decision to leave 550 for 1120.
On the Sports of St. Louis we talked about Adam Wainwright's 20th win, Daniel Descalso's parentage, and Colby Rasmus's renaissance. Among other things!
Fanposts
On the Fanposts blog there's a lot of talk about Albert Pujols, for one thing. IL and StL Fan offers a series of Pujols-related arguments in his capacity as philosophical devil's advocate. mucox looks at it systematically, looking both at Pujols's presumable future value and wondering if not Albert then who. (That is, which two whos.)
We've also got more words about Skip Schumaker and the 2010 second base situation than have been spilt since his 2010 season went from awful to mediocre. This is an excellent use of the fanpost section—covering something in an in-depth way that I have totally ignored.
Finally, a tearful goodbye to Jason LaRue—the man, the myth, the pornstache.
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Hey, finally first on a comment. It's early evening in Bangkok which brings memories of late nights and double headers with Harry and Jack . . .
Bravo to whomever decided to return to KMOX – an iconic station that contributed much to the widespread fame and prospereity of the franchise. Perhaps that move will serve as a metaphor for actual and non-symbolic returns. The latter would be helped by serious re-vamping of the line up and a reasoned approach to Albert’s contract. At the moment it appears to me that the consensus is that his re-signing would constitute a financial “Albert-tross.”
Hope that I am wrong, and thanks to all who post who bring a touch of home to an exile. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
"Albert-tross" is brilliant!
I’m actually pretty surprised some ESPN or radio talking head hasn’t taken this and run with it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
dont give them any ideas....
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
ESPN is secretly hoping the Sox or Yanks can get him.
That way they can show every damn game that either one plays.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 27, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
That way they can show every damn game that either one plays.
They don’t do that already?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
They take a break from time to time.
It only seems like they show every game but I have seen other teams games from time to time. Honestly, I have.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 27, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Bravo for the return to KMOX - key part of the team's fame. May that return also mark return to winning ways.
Early evening in Bangkok now, and thinking of KMOX brings memories of games with Jack and a little touch of Harry in the night. . . .
Thanks to each person who posts on this forum and thus bring a little touch of home to those of us in exile.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
don't know what happened. first post didn't take - re-do then both show up. Kind of the way the seaons went. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
too little too late, I fear
I was more than delighted to hear of the switch back to KMOX, until I started thinking about it. The (presumed) more sophistication and professionalism of KMOX may not have much impact. In short, the world has changed.
The crudeness and snappiness of ‘modernity’ has affected sports as much as any other parameter of life. And KMOX, which I have not had reason to listen to for some time now, may have deteriorated too.
My biggest sigh segues from the John Hadley discussion; namely, I barely know who he is (altho what I do know makes me agree that yes, he is a dick-head) since I do not live close enough to St. L to pick up the weak-stationed KTRS.
The three main culprits that ruin things for me are Al Hrabosky, Mike Claiborne (sp?) and Jay Randolph. And I have no reason to believe that the switch back to KMOX as the flagship radio station will have any effect at all on those three buzzards,
your face!
am I doing that right?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Jay Randolph won't still be doing the games since they won't be on Channel 5 next year.
Or will he?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 27, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Good lord
I can’t stand Jay Randolph. When watching Sunday games, I literally cannot keep count of how many times he messes up names, numbers, positions, etc. It’s like when my 86 yr old grandma calls me by my Dad’s name and doesn’t realize she’s doing it. I don’t think he even knows what sport he’s watching half the time. Hopefully FSN picking up those 20 games from channel 5 will not in any way translate to Randolph working for FSN in any capacity.
I know sports talk is about ratings and "having opinions"
I tend not to get too worked up over the Colin Cowherd style “controversial opinion for ratings” but “Randy Winn has been a more productive baseball player than Colby Rasmus” is really painful.
Jeff Samardzija is probably the worst pitcher I’ve ever seen. A 8.12 xFIP is one of those “that’s so bad it doesn’t matter if it’s SSS”
Not afraid to nitpick
I guess he could always go back to football.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 27, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
no one in their right mind could think that
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 27, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So what's the back story with the move back to KMOX?
It didn’t bring in extra money like it was supposed to?
The 550 personalities said things they weren’t supposed to say?
1 million pieces of hate mail from people who could no longer hear broadcasts?
Probably cuz it's a weak station that sucks.
in a nutshell.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 27, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
OT: I'm going to too my own horn for a minute.
I have officially passed two major milestones in life. I am 40 yrs old today and my wife is again pregnant with our first child. That’s all I got.
Oh, and I’m happy that we will no longer be dealing with KTRS or Channel 5 next year. Oh Happy, happy day!
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 27, 2010 9:21 AM EDT reply actions
Congrats? Sorry?
Not sure where to go with this one.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Thanks? It's not as bad as it seems?
I’m not sure where it goes from here.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 27, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 27, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
the P-D illustrated season
http://zettwoch.blogspot.com/2010/09/2010-stl-cardinals-rollercoaster-recap.html
Goold no doubt had much to do with this.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there is no room for the crappy old bench or the middle infielders angstation
clearly ChiTown needs to get on the mural.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 27, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was a brilliant illustration.
Saw it yesterday on FB.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 27, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm insulted I was not consulted on it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
You should be.
They should have you standing on top of the tallest hill pissing on an upside-down hanging Strauss.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 27, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
A few random thoughts this morning
Many arguements for either trading Pujols or letting him walk make perfect sense, and I always go straight to the childlike thought, “But I don’t want to see him go”.
The move to KMOX pleases me and I really don’t know why, I live too far away to pick it up….except in the car at night….perhaps it goes back to my Air Force days in the 70s in Delaware where I would sit in my Vega late at night listening to Cards games. (Yes, I owned a shitty Vega)
I have little confidence in the Cardinals ability to suddenly turn the infeld (left of 1st base) into a productive force.
Even though John Fogerty is a Rock and Roll Hall of Famer, and is also in the songwriters Hall of Fame, he is greatly unappreciated, and is an American treasure.
Stand with Stan Day
Is Stan Musial going to make an appearance at the game on Saturday? The articles appear pretty cryptic, not mentioning that he will be there.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
So is this elimination night?
It’s a rematch of Lohse vs. Charley Morton. Last time the Cards lost 11-6. Lohse lasted 3 innings and gave up 6 earned runs.
A shout out to Blake Hawksworth. His season hasn’t gone real well. He wanted to be a starting pitcher, got his chance and it didn’t go so well. He got sent back to the bullpen and then smacked in the face. Cheer up Blake, next year has to be better.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
I'll be watching in the hopes that Albert inches closer to 50 HRs
Yeah, it’s a serious longshot, but maybe he can come out of this Pittsburgh series with 5 HRs. That would put him at 47 going into the series against Colorado, a team that now appears to be pretty much out of contention.
I’m hoping that Albert sees a lot of pitches against two teams that don’t really have anything to gain from walking him every time he’s up.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
maybe you will get some great pictures
and you can share them with us tomorrow. How about a study of Lohse’s facial expressions as he gives up more and more earned runs.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
funny story about the pictures
i went and got myself some pro-advice
seems like i’ve been doing everything wrong so far
so today is like training day – lots of trying out stuff, little idea if something good will come out of this
i would really like for Lohse to be good tonight, just because i’ve seen him start probably 5 or 6 times this year and they were all abysmal
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
albert pujols is the rightful MVP but votto will win it anyway
discuss.
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 27, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
Cargo, Votto, Pujols,
is how I think it will go down.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
cargo would be a horrible joke.
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 27, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Pure anarchy, my friend
I’m the glue that keeps this blasted place together
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
that's not glue
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 27, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
need moar towels
Chris Carpenter for Manager
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker, on Jason Motte
I don't see how Pujols is the rightful MVP
Even if one were to argue that luck or something like that should be taken into account, Votto has been pretty awesome this year. Ryan Zimmerman has been ridiculous as well. His hitting rate stats are pretty close to say, Matt Holliday, only he also happens to have the highest UZR in the league at his position (I think).
Tulowitzki and Holliday have been pretty darn good too.
I will say it’s amazing how close WAR has Pujols, Votto, and Zimmerman. Pujols has a “down year”, Votto and Zimmerman have the best years of their careers so far, and they are all over 7 WAR and within .3 WAR of each other.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
he has more home runs and is as good at defense
good enough for me
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 27, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert is probably the park-adjusted, Pythagorean-adjusted MVP
But…Votto’s spot on a playoff-bound team likely gets him the nod.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
by lightbulb on Sep 27, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think I'll just cherry pick rate stats,
and say since APu leads 2 of the three triple crown categories, he has to be the MVP.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Also
Am I reading this from B-R right that Albert is the WAR leader in the NL in 2010?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/WAR_leagues.shtml
Difference comes down to how you calculate defense I guess? Sean Smith uses total zone I think.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
According to BR, you are absolutely correct.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
both pujols and votto have relatively low UZR's while zimmerman has a high UZR
if you use a different way to measure defense, then the WAR values (and who is leading) is going to change drastically.
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 27, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
can someone less lazy than i
please normalize joey votto’s stats this year for, say, a league average BABIP.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 27, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
Park-adjusted wOBAs via Statcorner - Pujols leads
Pujols:
wOBA – .436
bRAA – 62.0
Votto:
wOBA – .429
bRAA – 55.8
Carlos Gonzalez:
wOBA – .407
bRAA – 42.8
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
by lightbulb on Sep 27, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Bacon Magnets.....
….you know you want them…
;=8)
http://www.etsy.com/listing/57373022/4-bacon-slices-magnets?ref=cat2_gallery_20
Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O
IT'S FUCKING 112 DEGREES HERE
SOMEBODY HELP ME
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
where the hell are you
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 27, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Los Angeles
http://www.thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=90007
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
ouch
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 27, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
it's like below 55 in Chicago
I has a sad, summer over
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 27, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
heh...apparently,
it’s fucking nice here.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
we have had beautiful weather here in Springfield
It was hard today to go back to work.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
wow that's crazy
Never knew it got that hot there?
Let’s blame the smog. My wife visits friends there once/year. there was a heat wave last year, too. They say they never used the A/C until the last couple of years.
Yeah seriously
I was in the valley driving back from school, I was literally sweating a puddle in my car.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 27, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Secret Weapon fires one over the bow!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i think so...
and zoom zoom too
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
No, he got to make his I was right,
you guys were wrong post. It’s all good?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
look for the gdm post in all caps...
oh wait.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I don't think so
his numbers were trending up in recent years and he had appeared to get over his baggage. but I guess, he proved that supposition wrong, for our loss
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 27, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone read dg's pd column today?
i think he is almost onto the primary performance problem for the birds this year
what he needs, i think, is rbi efficiency as a metric. our’s is probably low, with the biggest problem being holly (.269 risp ba) batting 4th. he has the 4th most plate appearances in mlb with risp, but not in the top ten in rbi’s (tied for 14th with braun).
also comparing to league average isn’t going to answer any questions, the team needs to be in the top 4 in the nl. witness, 3rd highest BA, elevated by grit at one end and apu at the other. i made a comment on this earlier about how, compared to cincy, the birds BA and cincy’s was about the same, but the range of values for cincy was much narrower, they did not have .200-.230 weights dragging them down. at the time they had no players with more than 100 at bats hitting below .265, and we had several.
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I think the main thing they need to do is swap Holli and APu in the order for '11
turn it up to 11, heh
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 27, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what rbi efficiency is.
I just read the article and what poped into my head – yes, the cardinals have had opportunities to score and have scored more runs that I would have thought. Are they scoring them at the right time. Without looking, it seems there have been a lot of games that were won, 10-2 and lost 2-1. Lots of RBIs, just not when you need them. Don’t know what the stat is that would measure that.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
it's called tragically bad timing
or TBT
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 27, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what pythag win expectancy measures
And you are correct, our pythag xW-L indicates we’ve won a lot of blowouts and lost a lot of close games.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
my stab in the dark is, the bad timing has less to do with cardinals, and more to do with the opposition
with no evidence to back me up, it makes sense those games where we score 12 come against shitty pitching, where the shutouts come against quality pitching. thus, it just looks like bad timing, but really is us getting shut down
this make sense to anyone else?
(first person to say bud norris gets poopy thrown at them)
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 27, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
actually the Cards are routinely shut out vs. horrible pitching.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yes, this makes sense also.
well in a normal universe it would make sense. Since the Cardinals this year are living in Backwards Land……..
But point is still that all RBI are not created equal. Some win games and some pad stats.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
Holliday's number's with RISP are not bad.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
So, funny (and sad) piece of St. Louis baseball interweb stuff.
This baseballthinkfactory.org page links to a story about Stan Musial, and how he is under-appreciated, largely because he is constantly being compared to other players like Ted Williams.
The resulting Baseball Think Factory page, of course, is almost entirely devoted to comparing Stan Musial to Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio. Doesn’t that kind of sum up the whole problem of Stan Musial’s legacy outside St. Louis?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Career Lines
DiMaggio: 7,71 PA / .325 BA / .398 OBP / .579 SLG / .977 OPS / .439 wOBA / 361 HR / 30 SB / 2,214 H
Williams: 9,791 PA / .344 BA / .482 OBP / .634 SLG / 1.115 OPS / .493 wOBA / 521 HR / 24 SB / 2,654 H
Musial: 12,721 PA / .331 BA / .417 OBP / .559 SLG / .976 OPS / .436 wOBA / 475 HR / 78 SB / 3,630 H
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Don't get me wrong, Williams and DiMaggio are both fantastic players.
But can anybody but Cardinals fans talk about Musial without comparing him to someone else? Players like Williams and DiMaggio are great in their own right. DiMaggio had the streak. Williams hit .400 about eleventy thousand times. They played in the Northeast. They didn’t get left out of the all-century team or whatever that thing was called.
I remember seeing part of that Costas HBO show a couple years ago, and he had Hank Aaron and Willie Mays on. Costas said something like “I’m sitting here with the two greatest living baseball players in the world.” I know that technically that is true, but come on Costas… Stan’s not dead yet. I just wanted to scream at him, “you’re from St. Louis, you ass hat, at least mention the guy’s name.”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
BA with runners on base (mlb rank)
votto .378 (29)
cargo .346 (51)
ludwick .340 (56)
apu .346 (96)
holliday .301 (159)
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
something about this isn't right
but my math is bad, so.
http://twitter.com/Fox_Sports_MW/status/25720543681
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what is this year i don't even
- Wainwright will meet with docs today for stiffness in right elbow. Will determine if he makes start Thursday or is done for year.#stlcards 18 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
- Wainwright stressed that stiffness is not a concern. Got win 19 and 20 since experiencing ache after sleeping awkwardly on arm. #stlcards 16 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
- Wainwright: “it’s not a big deal.” He is awaiting word though if he’ll make Thursday start. #stlcards 13 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
- JohnMarecek @dgoold So to sum it up, Wainwright good at pitching, sucks at sleeping. #HatesToFaceBeds 15 minutes ago via TweetDeck in reply to dgoold Retweeted by dgoold
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
orly
BJRains La Russa said Wainwright slept awkwardly night before 19th win and had stiff elbow for 19th and 20th wins. He may not make his final start. about 1 hour ago via Twitter for iPhone
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Will this void his option?
Didn’t Goold say AW has to be healthy in order for his option to kick in when he finishing in the Top 5 of the Cy Young voting?
On a side note, Cot’s Contracts lists players in descending order of this year’s salary. The Cards top twelve in order are:
Holliday
Pujols
Carpenter
Suppan
Westbrook
Lohse
Penny
Wainwright
Feliz
Molina
Franklin
Miles
if so, that sounds weird
options for cy young are rarely tied to health
those sound like two different options
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If
this is correct, health doesn’t matter.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Cots says nothing about it either.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that's what I was thinking
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
i mean TJ surgery
the way things work around here, I wouldn’t be surprised.
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
so what you're telling me is Tony LaRussa
slept awkwardly on his head
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 27, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
meanwhile, Hawk in town to get his beak done
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Otter for Hawk?
dgoold Ottavino will throw to hitters tomorrow with chance he’ll take Hawksworth’s role for weekend. La Russa brought up possibility. #stlcards 18 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
CUT IT OUT, SBN
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that was annoying
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 27, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
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