The 2010.5 St. Louis Cardinals
by DanUpBaby on Sep 23, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintThe careful reader will notice I've begun, slyly and with abandon, to write almost nothing about the 2010 season. The careful reader has probably not been disappointed.
But while I have my head popped out from behind the 2011 pillbox—I'd like to mention that it should no longer be surprising to see this team lose to bad teams. Not in the "they're losing to bad teams" sense, like that's a skill they have refined and now possess. This is in the sense that they sent out three pitchers last night, and they had ERAs of 6.75, 7.11, and 7.36. My boy Mac The Fifth put together a scoreless inning and traded places with Kyle Lohse, after the fact, to become the only member of the trio with an ERA under seven.
They started Daniel Descalso out of position, to see if he can play in that position next year; they started Matt Pagnozzi, for some reason. Jon Jay is starting through a slump he maybe wouldn't start through if they were a game out of first. These aren't bad things, except for the Matt Pagnozzi thing, they're just a team playing for reasons that are not so enjoyable to watch as the ones we saw, or should have seen, in July.
It's not entirely without its merits, of course; who else should Daniel Descalso drive in with his first Major League hit but Colby Rasmus and Allen Craig? All three of these guys have come out of the season smelling (at least on VEB) like roses. Aaron Miles aside—and at this point in the season he is a harmless affectation, like a mustache on a 16-year-old—the Cardinals are officially playing The Youth. Kyle Lohse and The Youth Team are not strong favorites against the Pittsburgh Pirates, whose youth is itself pretty impressive; Andrew McCutchen really is fast, so fast that it doesn't stop registering as you watch him run the bases.
Now I'd like to talk about Mark Hamilton, who didn't pick up his first hit and has no place on The Youth Team, even this hasty approximation of same.
Mark Hamilton was drafted as quick-moving trade bait, like Brett Wallace, and then he didn't move very fast at all. He was a college slugger, and I remember reading at least one college-slugger-watcher who was skeptical of what was apparently his aluminum-bat-power.
For three years, Bartleby-like in his admirable, maybe misplaced consistency, he refused to offer the hyperventilating prospect-geek fraternity even one platform on which to hyperventilate. All the usual novel approaches—blocked. He was exactly the right age for his league; his strikeout rate and walk rate were completely predictable; he hit home runs but not too many, and doubles but not enough to predict any spares would turn into home runs; he didn't even pretend to play any other positions, which might be to his credit.
Collapse the half-seasons that were good enough to get him promoted and his first three years look like this: .258/.325/.444; .269/.332/.448; .241/.338/.384.
Since then he's punished the ball at AA and now AAA, but he's 24 and 25, really 25 and 26, and he keeps getting hurt. But I'm a little hyperventilatey to ignore anybody who slugs .585 over 72 games, even in the Pacific Coast League; over his 118 games there in 2009 and 2010 he's hit .302/.384/.567.
Hamilton has no spot with the Cardinals, and he has no trade value, and that's a shame; he wouldn't be Jack Cust, but he could be Ben Broussard for longer than Ben Broussard managed the trick if he were playing for an AL team or an NL team, like the Pirates, who has no better option but to discover Garrett Jones. Of the 40-man call-ups he was the oddest pick—if for only that reason I hope to see him as much as possible over the last several games, when that objective is as worthwhile as any other.
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His nickname is The Whammo, he sets up the Memphis victory music with one Joe Mather, and his college major was molecular biology
he’s built like a tall retaining wall, swings like Chris Duncan, and is happily blocked blocked blocked
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2010 8:10 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe I forgot to mention the nickname!
Your mentioning it in the last thread is what set this post into motion. Because it’s awesome.
I'm hoping I got it right, because it sounded like Whammy for a second
maybe someone can confirm it
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
it reminds me of the babe ruth substitute in the natural
who was whammer, and maybe not somebody who an aspiring hitter should be nicknamed after
did that really just happen?
“I didn’t see a better third baseman there [than Descalso],” La Russa said. “We’ve worked him out there. He’s got plenty of arm to play it, and I think it’s a better fit than (Aaron) Miles.”
from the P-D
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
somebody explain to me
Why Mather hasn’t been given a chance at third yet and why we continue to acknowledge Aaron miles exists by giving him AB.
by TheWagonMakerCometh on Sep 23, 2010 10:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
3B=getting dirty, dirt=grit, grit=Aaron F. Miles
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought he's been at third
Mather’s got a rehab period to get through, though. he’s somewhat an unknown quantity
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Because
TLR. I think any question regarding this club can be answered with “because TLR”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2010 10:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You kidding me?
He’s a lock to be on the team next year for 250 ABs of worthlessness.
Not afraid to nitpick
this is sad.
but it’s absolutely true if larussa comes back.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
no
Absolutely true if LaRussa comes back AND Mo brings back Aaron Miles.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
so it's absolutely going to happen.
i have no confidence in mo not bringing back aaron miles if larussa is running the show.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you still going to argue that La Russa has no influence on the moves of the front office?
by vivaelpujols on Sep 23, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
nope
Influence is there. But Miles will not be getting any PA if Mo doesn’t put him on the team.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
And Mo might not have a choice in the matter of La Russa is still on the team
by vivaelpujols on Sep 23, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
then why is mo employeed?
if TLR is going to be the GM just let Mo walk and use his money elsewhere.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Who's on second.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
apparently he makes the roster decesions
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Suppan, Miles, Feliz - they all reek of Tony, especially given how much playing time they have gotten (which is 100% under his control).
by vivaelpujols on Sep 23, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
of course playing time is 100% under his control
and it’s fair to blame Tony for all the playing time that Miles, Feliz, and Suppan receives.
But it’s not okay to alleviate Mo his share of the blame for putting those players on the Roster. Tony is going to play the bench. This is no secret. Mo is there to set the roster. If Mo isn’t setting the roster than he is no good to the Cardinals. I could be the GM if all I’m going to do is sign the players that someone else picks out.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I'm arguing that the fact that "Mo" put so many players that Tony loves to, and did, play far too often
Implies that Tony had a role in the decision making process regarding which players were put on the roster. How much is up for debate.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 24, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
because mather can't hit
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I miss David Freese
Not because of his offense. Not because of his defense. Not because we replaced him with this year’s worst major league player(s). But mostly because I can’t play this every time he comes to bat, or makes an out in the field.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Well, it won't let me post the link...
so this is it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRH-Ywpz1_I
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
So that's what killed the dinosaurs!
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
I came here to post that exact thing
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
" . . . who is just awesome everywhere he plays and shouldn't be stuck in just one.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Sep 23, 2010 11:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Fucking misquoting journalists
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
OT:
Started to read "Are We Winning?’ by Will Lietch. So far, so hilarious.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
can someone open this up and see what's going on?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't give them my money.
Just have my VEB Gold membership.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
What do you get with that?
Private insights to the mind of DanUp? A personal link to lboros? A seat in the gallery of the Inner Sanctum?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I could tell you, but then...well, you know.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and you always come out smelling like bacon!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure I could handle that.
Guess I’ll just remain on the outside wanting to look in.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
but you can't be late. ever.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
danup yanked my gold membership the other day
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Sep 23, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
just shut 'em down.
seems pretty logical to me.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
It's from BJ, so it really adds
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
bj sucks at reporting actual news
it’s really entertaining to see miklasz, goold, et al poke fun at him on twitter.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Onward toward .500. The abomination starts early.
LINEUP—Skip 2B, Mather CF, Pujols 1B, Holliday LF, Stavinoha RF. Descalso 3B, Pagnozzi C, Greene SS, Suppan P
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
NOTE: They have removed all sharp objects from the lockers of Pujols and Holliday.
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous - FredbirdisaDork
This season was screwed
once they wouldn’t let the good ole boys and Albert have their guns and bows in the locker room.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
dude, that's not what DFA means
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I welcome our new Mafia overlords
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
How about this?
Colby-8; Mather-5; AP-3; Holliday-7; Craig-9; Anderson-2; T Greene-4; Boog-6; pitcher?
Jay can platoon with Joey Bombs. Descalso can alternate with Greene T, who can move to 3B.
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher
*Jay can platoon with Craig
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: Rasmus 8, Jay/Craig 9, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, M Carpenter 5, Molina 2, T Greene 4, Ryan 6, pitcher
does Bombs actually have his groove back? does anyone know?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
He seems to be grooving like Colby.
Hot-cold
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
OK, that is a linup built by throwing darts.
Mather in CF? WTF? How many hits are going to fall between Bombs and Chair today?
And can Anderson get a fucking start, please? You’re going to wear Pagnozzi out with all of this work.
Cardinals 2010 memorial sig. Never Forget.
by The Continental on Sep 23, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Good
Wear him out, then maybe we’ll never have to be submitted to the torture of watching him again.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2010 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2 Pagnozzi starts in a row
I believe that this, along with the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland, has the possibility of opening up microscopic black holes that will envelop the Earth.
Way to go, Tony.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
Amaury Marti Cazana is working as hard as he can!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
That guy should be the manager
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
I'd rather have Amaury at C than Pagnozzi
Can someone see if he can play C…or 3B?
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
by Cardinals645 on Sep 23, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMqPT6oKJ8&feature=playerembedded
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Sep 23, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know that I can handle this.
I mean, how the hell have we fallen so far that we’re watching Lohse and Suppan starts back to back? Can’t we just have Miles out there for all 9 so he has to rest for a few days, instead?
He'd probably throw a no-no
and we’d be stuck with him in the rotation next year.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
That's 3 "we know they are below replacement players" in Stav, Gagz and Suppan
Mather, Descalso and Greene may or may not be awful. Even if they aren’t awful, it’s likely that the sum of Stav, Gagz and Suppan’s below replacementness would drag that group of 6 down to replacement level on the whole. And Schumaker has been a 0 WAR player. That’s 7 players for whom I would project the sum of their production as replacement level. And we could actually make it worse by starting Miles.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Sep 23, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh. my. god.
mather gets in the lineup but he’s out of position. stavinoha should never play. pagnozzi should never play. descalso should never play third. what a joke.
odds of us scoring a run today: 1:4
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry
4 to 1
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
The important part
is getting some of these guys ABs right now. Even if they may be a little out of position. Mather has played CF before.
But why is stavinoha getting a start?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
because tlr
duh.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
We need to get @craigcalcaterra an unicorn.
craigcalcaterra What kills me about Strauss: in the same piece he breaks down the Central using the Pythagorean Theorem. #StatsOnlyWhenTheyHelpMyCase
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I don't guess we're lucky enough to be the hypotenuse, are we?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
an unicorn
or a unicorn?
is this like an historic vs. a historic
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
a unicorn
a historic
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
under!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Sep 23, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
cards will finish the next 11 games 4-7
so an even .500
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
Charles M. Schulz
under.
79-83 is bound to happen.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
We're still at pick #18
for next June, but we’re only 1 game out of pick 15, which is protected!!! I don’t see us making any big FA pick-ups, so it probably don’t matter.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Sep 23, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
its time to play Chances!
Houston ends up with a better record.
TLR is back next year
Aaron Miles doesn’t go away
David Freese’s ankles spontaneously combust
Reds make it to the WS
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2010 10:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
My guesses
1. Yes (sigh)
2. Yes (sigh)
3. Yes (SIGH)
4. No
5. Sure, that sounds about right. And 25,000 fans will be there at that stadium to see it.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
lol i always found that funny
Even with a winning club they still can’t sell out games.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2010 10:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
...
1. No, but it will be close
2. Yes
3. Of course he won’t go away. He’s batting .295 and he’s versatile!
4. It’ll happen mid-April when we are counting on him
5. Not going to happen
And I’ll add a #6 – Jeff Suppan comes back in 2011.
by thegodfather on Sep 23, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
....
Would you rather have Jeff suppan or Blake hawksworth as your number 5. And no you can’t choose "option three take gun and play Russian roulette "
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2010 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha
Actually I’d almost rather have Suppan, just so that I can use Hawksworth when somebody gets hurt. If you start out with Hawk as the #5, then who fills in when Carp/Lohse/whoever gets hurt? It’s a depressing but honest question. If Suppan is free, then I bet they pick him up.
by thegodfather on Sep 23, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
...
1. no opinion
2. "
3. "
4. "
5. "
6. Le FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Guessatron
1.) No
2.) Mmmm…50/50…yes
3.) Hegone
4.) No, nor does he realize that while Sonic rocks, their ice cream sucks
5.) They don’t even reach the NLCS. They can’t beat teams with a winning record…haven’t all season…and the playoffs has a lot of those teams.
by PeterStork670 on Sep 23, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
1 no
2 yes
3 probably
4 already happened
5 nope
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
6 learn to reply dumbass.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Man, no comments today on the Lopez release?
I’m only a little shocked.
It happened two days ago.....old news.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
why would we comment on that today when it happened a few days ago
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 23, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
man, no comments today on apollo 11 landing on the moon?
i’m only a little thrilled
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
and today on sept 23 of 2010 prophetjohn had the greatest nextdef'd of all time
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 23, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Obligatory
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
okay guys there is a LIVE STREAM for the game this MORNING
should i even post it?
i don’t want to hurt anyone..
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
holy crap
11:35 start time?
i guess i won’t be able to watch the pirates finish off the sweep
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Sep 23, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
because i have more important things like school
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Sep 23, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
fuck school.
/haven’t watched the cardinals in 3 weeks because of school and lack of interest
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm not too tore up about not being able to watch
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Sep 23, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
me neither.
hence the “lack of interest” description. i haven’t watched a full game since the week i got here (late august) and haven’t watched more than an inning with my full attention since the friday game against atlanta when jay dropped the ball. in fact, i just don’t have time for sports unless it’s the weekend. my weekends are full of football.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Professors tend to not like that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
lose the headphones
answer and ask questions every once in a while
works like a charm
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
why even go to school, then?
my first class is major specific, so i genuinely need to learn as much as i can and i have an exam in the next class
plus, it’s a meaningless september game in a lost series against the pirates. i’m good
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Sep 23, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
WOOHOO! Gametime!
Time to get paid to watch the Cardinals lose to the worst team in baseball!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Aaron Miles hatred
What is up with your obsessive hatred of Aaron MIles? In any other season but this one, I would get it. However, you do realize that all of the other Cardinal middle infielders this season have been just as bad or worse than Aaron Miles, don’t you? If you want to bash a Cardinal middle infielder, why not Brendan Ryan or Skip Schumaker? They are much more responsible for how bad this season has been than Aaron Miles has been.
Because Aaron Miles is bad at baseball,
and has no reason to be on any MLB roster, let alone the Cardinals.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
they are not more responsible
as they are both better than aaron miles
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently, you haven't been paying attention this season
They may be better, but they haven’t played any better this season than Aaron Miles did.
Skip hit .265/.329/.342 (batting average/on base %/slugging %), Miles hit .295/.321/.333, while Ryan hit .222/.275/.294. Ship at best barely out performed MIles this season, and Brendan was much much worse than Miles was. Skip and Brendan were the starters for the vast majority of the season, so yes they were much more responsible for the Cardinals horrible season.
Miles hit his career average of suck,
skip and Ryan underperformed their historical numbers. It happens. Unfortunately for the Crads it happened at the same time. Miles is bad, and just because he performed equal to, or slightly above the 2010 STL MI norm, doesn’t justify him being here over players such as Greene.
Also, the reply button is your friend.
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Too feed the troll a little more,
Miles has been worth -.2 WAR, Skip .2, and Boog .7 (all per BR.)
Also, I’m pretty sure everyone here knows what a slash line is.
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Miles sucks, but he outperformed Brendan, and did no worse than Skip
First, I did hit the reply button, but apparently because I wasn’t connected before hitting it, it did not post my reply as a reply. Second, because I think the players who are most responsible for this awful season are the ones who should be bashed that make me a troll? IMO, it just shows how little respect you show to people who don’t share your opinion, and it says more about you than me. Third, I have never said Miles is good. I realize and have acknowledged he sucks. However, the undisputed point is this season he has vastly outperformed Brendan Ryan and did no worse than Skip Schumaker. Why direct all of your anger at a worthless bench player, when 2 starters were just as bad or much worse and did far more to ruin the Cardinals seasons.
by Aaron Durst on Sep 27, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's try this another way
Miles had 141 plate appearance so far this season. If Miles had no plate appearances for the Cardinals this season, and all those plate appearances went to some other league average middle infielder, would the Cardinals record be all that different from what it is right now? It almost certainly would not be any different. Now on the other hand, Skip and Brendan had nearly 1000 plate appearances between them. Would the Cardinals record be any better if all those plate appearances went to a some other league average middle infielder. It almost certainly would be better. Yet the original author of this post and some other commenters misdirect all of their anger at Aaron Miles.
by Aaron Durst on Sep 27, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
over 141 PA's, he was worth -.2 WAR, so lets say we gave him 500 PA,
he’d be worth -.7. How can you say he outperformed Ryan, when the value numbers (WAR), say he hasn’t. Also the troll tag was dropped, as you joined 3 days ago, and came in with undying support of Aaron miles. I’m done, this is a stupid argument.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
Because offensively, he outperformed Ryan
… and the Cardinals problem this season has been offense. And, I am not giving Miles undying support. I am merely pointing out that Brendan and Skip were much bigger problems for the Cardinals this season. You apparently lack the logic skills to understand the argument, so you resort to ad hominem attacks (calling me a troll), and straw men (falsely claiming I am offering undying support for Aaron Miles).
I am merely pointing out that Brendan and Skip were much bigger problems for the Cardinals this season.
And I am merely pointing out that Miles is historically bad at baseball, and him having one of his best years compares to Skip and Ryan having one of their worst. I can’t believe we’re arguing over which turd tastes worse in the shit sandwich. Ryan and Schumaker have upside as MLB baseball players, Miles has none. Did Ryan and Skip have bad years this year offensively? Yes, however Ryan has enough value with the glove to make that palatable, and Skip has been surging tioward his usual numbers. All Miles has done is take away PA’s from more deserving players. I repeat, he has no business being on this roster, and better not be next year.
Again, I’m done.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
And if you had read my original post
.. you would have seen that I acknowledged that historically Miles has been awful. My only point was Miles has not been the problem this season. Skip and Brendan have been the problem. If you had read and understood my original point, maybe you could have understood it, and not attacked me for pointing out how bad Brendan and Skip have been.
Ryan and Skip have both played better than Miles
by vivaelpujols on Sep 28, 2010 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions
clearly you didn't read his original post
they haven’t played any better this season than Aaron Miles did.
he lays it all out, right there.
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