The 2003 Cardinals, the 2010 Cardinals, and the bench
by DanUpBaby on Sep 2, 2010 6:01 AM EDT
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PrintIf I had known the team as a whole were going to scuffle so badly in August and September I would have had a much easier case to make about Matt Holliday not being a disappointment in April. All that warbling about small sample sizes and descriptive vs. predictive stats could have been replaced with:
You think he's hitting poorly with runners in scoring position, huh? Check this out, nerds—according to Future Baseball-Reference the Cardinals are going to hit .250/.316/.374 after taking the NL Central division lead in August! By then you'll yearn for the sweet release of a late-innings Matt Holliday pop-out, but it won't come, because he's a good player! And he'll be surrounded by bad players! Like Pedro Feliz, and Aaron Miles!
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Which would have saved me some time, not that I had much going on in April and May, anyway. If I ever hand the VEB keys to Futuredanup (he insists on the capitalized F), expect more smugness, less insight, and more mystifying future-haiku (space-winter is cold / in the future all haiku is self-referential / during space-winter.)
There have been worse Cardinals teams than this one, and will be again, but the 2006 team that made that 3-9 nosedive into the playoffs didn't have the Reds targeting 90 wins. The 2003 club is probably a better comparison, and not just because I beat the Mike DeJean thing into the ground for a solid week after the Pedro Feliz trade; they featured four MVP-caliber players (and a fifth, J.D. Drew, who would have been had he played more than 100 games), two solid pitchers, and found themselves with considerably less depth than they thought when things broke down.
But here's what amazes me about that team, especially given how good they were the next year: There's nobody exciting on the fringes of the Major Leagues.
In 2010 the Cardinals have given noticeable playing time to Jon Jay, Allen Craig, David Freese, Tyler Greene, Fernando Salas, reliever-Mitchell-Boggs, and, of course, Jaime Garcia. Bryan Anderson made a cameo appearance, too.
In 2003, these guys made cameo appearances: Chris Widger, Wilson Delgado, So Taguchi, Joe Girardi, Esteban Yan, Russ Springer, Mike Crudale, Kevin Ohme, Pedro Borbon, Gabe Molina, Jason Pearson, Josh Pearce, and the immortal Jimmy Journell. [Note: I was very excited to see who the SB Nation auto-linker would pick out of this list.]
I agree with Dr. Eustace V. "Red" Berrohn, retired (Mrs.)'s grades from yesterday, on balance, but Mozeliak's ability to cultivate fringe players who can outperform the Wilson Delgados of the world and hold out the hope of future usefulness is a solid A. Aside from Bo Hart, who ended up playing more second base than anybody else on that 2003 squad, the youngest non-starter on the team to get any time at all was Mr. Miguel Cairo.
That the Cardinals couldn't convert these young guys into a winning squad is at the fringes misallocation of resources—Greene shouldn't have 40 fewer at-bats than Aaron Miles, or Craig 15 fewer than Nick Stavinoha—and also a reminder that for all the guys a team can develop to take 80 at-bats and run, it's the starters and front-line guys who slide toward replacement level who can make the difference between relevance and Skip Schumaker looking really pissed off at the top of this website.
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Well, if shaving their heads didn't work, nothing will.
Valiant effort, boys!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 2, 2010 6:32 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I'm not sure what's worse...
(1) The Cardinals play down the stretch, in all regards, or
(2) This is as close as we’ll get to a profanity-laced tirade from our fearless leader Danup about this season.
I'm the kind of fearless leader who gets fired and replaced with larry bowa midseason
to Shake Things Up.
by DanUpBaby on Sep 2, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ouch.
No need to do that to yourself DanUp.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm just saying I'm way down the right side of the redass not a redass continuum
When I’m about to be fired there will be anonymous complaints about the loose, forgiving nature of the blog comments, and how everybody’s all buddy-buddy with the other blogs, not like it was in Bob Gibson’s day.
Then Larry Bowa will come in and make you all do windsprints during the game thread and we’ll go 10-2 before everybody quits.
by DanUpBaby on Sep 2, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
DanUp,
this may be the best comment in the history of VEB.
Of. All. Time.
I’m reccing it.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Sep 2, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ow, wind sprints
us old folk probably won’t last 12 games
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 2, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Better than bear-crawls
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm only doing jumping jacks
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Maybe
What the Cardinals need are a bunch of random texts in the middle of the night from someone who has the wrong number.
I understand how people sometimes call the wrong number, but come on, texting the wrong number? I don’t know about you, but before I send my texts I review the number and message to make sure everything is on the up and up. This is the next that I got at 5 in the morning:
Aye. Thss the girl with the dreads meet me at the school. Dnt txt thss number thss my mama phne GOD IS GOOD.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 8:18 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
The possibilities as to what this means and how it came to be sent are endless.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
A booty call
with religion tossed in at the end. Well, maybe it’s an early-morning clandestine prayer meeting.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
The 2001 Cardinals
Were the only World Series-worthy Cardinal team of the past 23 years, and possibly the last one I’ll ever see in my lifetime if we continue to be run by amateurs like Mozeliak.
It wasn’t a perfect team by any stretch, yet it didn’t have any of glaring deficiencies of the rest of the Larussa Cardinal amalgamations. They had a decent offense, an exceptional defense, solid starters (anchored by Morris in his prime and Kile), and a ready-made World Series DH (McGwire).
Yes, if there was one Larussa-coached team which had the faintest glimmer of a chance of beating their corresponding Yankee team in the World Series, this was it. Had Larussa not horribly mis-managed game 3 against Arizona, the dramatic 2001 World Series might have seen Fernando Vina or Placido Polanco singling home the winning run against Mariano Rivera in the 9th inning of game 7.
Um, what?
The 2002 team that entered the postseason was excellent. The 2004 team was one of the greatest Cardinals teams of all-time. The 2005 team was very good, as well. I would also suggest that the 2009 team was very “World Series-worthy,” as well. Look at the production from the 2009 lineup and the pitching staff. They were on par with every postseason club, in my opinion.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
He's just being his usually trolly self.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Well...
the 2006 team was pretty World Series worthy…they won the world series.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I've got a question
In times when you hear things about the offense struggling, the first thing that pops out of most everyone’s mouth is “The hitting coach, blah, blah, blah.” If you had to attribute a percentage to the offense’s problems, how much would you put on Big Mac.
I’ve always been under the assumption that while the hitting coach is supposed to prepare you, he can’t hit for you….and in the case of Miles and Feliz, he’s not God.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 8:27 AM EDT reply actions
Sorry
for not putting a ?, it’s early and I’m translating English into Latin, without my coffee.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions
lacrimosa dies irae.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Sep 2, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Semper ubi sub ubi
Ero hic pro septem dies.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKERS! DO YOU SPEAK IT?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
...
hmm..probably on which from the ashes aris
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
It's all Greek to me.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
if by "big mac" you mean hal mcrae
his chickens have come home to roost! damn that guy!
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 2, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I find it funny
that last year, an in previous years, this board would bash Hal Mcrae like crazy when the team stopped hitting, or a particular player stopped hitting. I don’t know why Big Mac doesn’t get the same treatment. The struggles we had early, the struggles most are still having…..some of these guys have pretty good track records, and to be hitting this poorly, all season, just doesn’t make sense to me.
As for a percentage.....
I have no idea. The simple act of hitting, for the regular players, I don’t put that on the coach much at all. TLR cannot control how Albert, Holliday, Skip, Ryan, Molina and the likes hit over a season. I think he can influence the bench guys, by when he gives them their AB’s. So if I cannot pin it on TLR, I’d have to give Mac 40-45% of the blame. Bad luck gets some. Injuries gets some. Mo gets some.
Tend to agree
I’ve vented a few times on Big Mac, although it’s probably more out of frustration. We can’t really prove/disprove a hitting coach’s effect on a team. Only the players could answer that.
Has anyone seen players speaking in the press supporting Mac lately?
I didn't realize that this board was like The Borg has a collective consciousness...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I really got tired of tying to point out that the who the hitting coach is really makes little difference
The cubs made Rudy Jaromillo the highest paid hitting coach in the history of baseball and their in 5th place with the sole reason being their offense because their starting pitching (for the 1st half) was superb.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
So b/c he is the highest paid
He is the best? And then b/c the Cubs can’t hit, if the best can’t teach hitting better than that, hitting coaches don’t matter much?
I don’t agree with that logic.
i'm saying it doesn't really matter who the hitting coach is.
it’s not going to make a difference. just get a ml hitting coach. don’t over pay. don’t go get a big name.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
and generally the "bashing" on McRae were after his comments, detailing his philosophy and approach,
were rather glaringly out of touch with the reality of the situation. Including what the players were saying.
We have no such evidence from McGwire.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yep
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Hal McRae's mantra that he repeated in the newspaper
was “be agressive” and was exactly what many wanted the hitters to STOP doing. That was why people jumped on board. Generally, the things McGuire has said thus far seem sensible. Given time, I’m sure we’ll turn on him too.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
McGwire.
Come on!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
"spelling is important rarrrrgghh"
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I have noticed that a lot of that first-pitch-swinging shit that they did last year has stopped.
Of course, they might as well this year, they haven’t been able to hit f*&%-all else this year.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
i can't say it was the source of all criticism
But mcrae had (along with tlr) are well-documented ill influence on the team. At the end of april 2009, after a tremendous offensive performance, tony complained that the players were not being aggressive enough. Immediately, the percentage of out of zone swinging shot up for all but two or three players (some of them by 10 percent or more) and the offense stalled.
Mcrae was then quoted as saying he had no idea why the teams hitting had crashed, even though there was a remarkable drop in walk rate and players had begun swinging at everything. The team never made the adjustment back to a more cautious approach at the plate, and sputtered until the holliday acquisition.
I don’t criticise mac because I don’t know what he’s advocating to players. I knew what mcrae was advocating and he seemed, based on his comments, unable to diagnose a fairly obvious and fixable problem. That’s why he got criticized.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Sep 2, 2010 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
big mac's first season
lol
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
he doesn't make out the line up
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
or the roster
but he did say this in DGoolds article today about his job & the lack of consistent hitting
It’s been a great learning experience for me. I’ve had a lot of sleepless nights. I’ve had a lot of great nights."
and this,,
“all the young players we have who are still learning.”
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
OT
I’m heading to St. Louis for the game on Sunday (and I can’t be more excited to see a this craptastic offense) and was wondering if and where anything would be going on that would be of any interest or fun (food, drinks, etc.) after the game anywhere in the StL area?
With it being a Sunday night (Labor Day weekend), I’m at a loss for what to do.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
get drunk before the game.
and be “that guy” during.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
That's funny
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
my girlfriend and maybe another couple
but the other couple would only be there for dinner.
We’re wanting to do something since were staying over-night (downtown at the Hilton across from the stadium).
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I make it a point to head to the landing
And walk the streets and enjoy a few beers every single time I’m in St. Louis. I love the landing, no other nightlife compares to it (IMHO).
by lopey986 on Sep 2, 2010 10:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we were there in March
and there didn’t seem to be as many places open for business. Plus its gonna be a Sunday night (again, on Labor Day weekend if that makes a difference), so I don’t know if that’s going to have an effect on things being open/busy/etc.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
the landing is dead.
only people there are the homeless.
Pre-game at shannons (maybe ozzie’s? haven’t been to the new one). Post game at Maggie O’s. If you’re still feeling frisky hit up the casino.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
will see what's up at Maggie O's
no to the casino though. absolutely no interest from either of us.
Anyway, I’m look for some ideas in the evening. The game should be over by 4:30 at the latest. I’m talking about after the sun goes down.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
St. Louis fun begins and ends with the City Museum
Honestly one of the greatest things I’ve ever been to. Usually open late too.
yeah, check that out.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
closes at 5pm on Sunday.
and, I don’t think they serve alcohol.
Guys, this is serioulsy sad. The best ideas I’m getting is the City Museum????
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
They serve booze. Full bar.
It’s awesome.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Well, liquor and history do go hand in hand.
Or is maybe liquor and my history go hand in hand?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
this is the city museum
old picture, but hey.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yep.
Alcohol and liquor go hand in hand.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
...as someone who's out 5-6 nights a week
STL night life is atrocious….horrible….bad.
City Museum is wretched and the only place people recommend because stl night life is just that bad. Sundays are especially brutal. I doubt you’d like to go to the only place that’s “happening” on sunday, which is Atomic in the gayborhood. It’s usually nut to butt 20something hipsters.
If the weather is awesome for outdoor drinking hit up the loop and go to the moonrise or McGirks. both places will be dead but the actual places themselves are awesome.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
*mcgurks is not on the loop
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
It's also the blues fest this weekend, so there will be *some* stuff on the Landing.
And there will be plenty of folks out on Sunday night, I’d imagine.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
whoa this is a whole new sbn.
i did not add that “z”
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
you paged through your own comment
I think this means it will stay yellow forever.
by DanUpBaby on Sep 2, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
HFS™
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
by IHeartBoog on Sep 2, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's the Japanese festival at the Botanical Gardens if that sort of thing foats your proverbial boat.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
parking's crazy for that
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
New Ozzies is quite a jaunt from the stadium.
JBucks is a nice pre game joint as well. I enjoyed the Broadway Oyster Bar for the Post game.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Food & Drink
If you can get out there before the game, it’s worth checking out Pappy’s Smokehouse, some of the best bbq I’ve ever had. It’s a short drive from the stadium, but well worth it; no alcohol, but it’s next door to the Buffalo Brewing Co.
After the game, check out the Schlafly Tap Room or the Morgan Street Brewery, good food and beer. I’m actually flying out for the series agains the Padres, so this is all part of my itinerary.
Red Means Go.
I don;t think I've ever waited more than twenty minutes, though.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Clearly.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
is their new place in Soulard going to be closer for you?
i’m not sure where it’s at exactly, but i know it’s going to be the same thing only a different name
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Waiting
I think they open at 11 on Sundays, and I’ve never had to wait too long getting there around opening. Plus waiting for deep fried corn on the cobb is never a bad thing.
Red Means Go.
that's Skip's self-flagellation face
if he really snapped… it might be an ugly scene
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I wonder how many of today's bench players are really any better
It’s easy to look back at the list of people from 2003 who now read like a list of nobodies and chuckle. But quite frankly, the young players on the team today are not regarded highly as prospects by third parties. I assume a couple of them may make an impact, a couple play a few years, but if you take the list of promising young players on today’s team and look at it 7 years from now, my guess is you will wonder how you ever put some of them on the list. You’ll say, perhaps, “David Freese? He never played in the majors again. Craig. Wow, I was once excited about that guy. Tyler Greene? Wasn’t he a utility guy for a couple of years? Anderson? Isn’t he a backup some place?”
Good point
If I had to pick, I think Greene will have the most longevity of this group. Versatility+speed+defense will keep him around.
Speaking of..
Tyler followed up his 3 doubles night with another double plus a homer last night out of the lead off spot.
But we should stick with Miles….fml.
this makes me want to cry.
WHERE ART THOU TYLER GREENE
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
he said he was getting in this van with Scoob
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well if he had gotten in this one he'd be in the STL by now
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Mather
Kind of nice to see him coming back around. He had another good night going 3-4 with a homer last night. After half a season of putrid offense he has his OPS back to .800. Any chance he’ll get a Sept call?
i knew it'd take about a full year before he got going again
i really really really really really really really really want him back to his Bombing way
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
He already is something useful,
TLR just refuses to play him over Aaron Miles.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
It's his own fault he isn't playing right now
And he’s hardly been “useful” when he has gotten ML AB’s in recent years.
Yeah that .265 .359 .412 line with normal peripherals from a SS blows this year
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Sep 2, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
we gotta reduce the size of this if it's going in heavy rotation
I mean, that’s bigger than life-sized
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 2, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
You give me a genuine LOL
I give you green, sir. Green, I say!
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
i'm totally stealing this for my picgasim
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
if that's true, its fucking ridiculous.
if greene isn’t on this team solely because of the DL/agent/getting sent down thing, its probably the worst decision of the season.
i have an idea. lets NOT play a guy who will actually help this team win games and maybe stay in the playoff race because he made a mistake. if this team knows anything its that injuries are important and must be disclosed! we do NOT take lightly to players who don’t tell anyone they are hurt! do that again and you just might find yourself in springfield next year!
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
if he isn't on the team...
doesn’t seem like a smart career move does it?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
IF its even true that he hid an injury just to keep playing, what is so bad about that?
everyone fucking does it, the whole team has some kind of hide my injury mantra. then he learns he’s getting sent down. well shit, i’m not playing bad because i suck, i’m playing bad because i’m hurt. he tells his agent, hey i’m hurt, what should i do? his agent makes a call. and if mo and all them were really so pissed about it, why didn’t they just say, hey fuck you, we’ll send you to memphis and THEN DL you. that would be a better punishment that would not subsequently hurt the team.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
That's what I would have done, if I were the GM.
Of course, this assumes that there is no provision in the CBA governing such roster moves that would prevent doing so.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I would argue that you can't let a player field like Aaron Miles and there not be some kind of punishment.
I would argue that you can’t let a player pitch like Mike MacDougal and there not be some kind of punishment.
I would argue that you can’t let a player hit like Pedro Feliz and there not be some kind of punishment.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
i'd argee with those points
I’d cut all those guys for those. (well, maybe not Pedro, since we only got him to field)
I’d also cut Greene for what he did.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Really?
I could not care less about Greene did. If I were the manager, I would not care at all. In fact, I’d be happy for him that he got more money from DeWallet. If I were the GM, I might be annoyed, but then I would think of how my manager fosters an atmosphere in the major league clubhouse of playing through injuries and just how many players have tried to do the same thing Greene did, and I would probably be more annoyed with my manager.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
good point about playing through injuries.
"I'll be in the conversation at the end of the year." Adam Wainwright
naw
it’s the Marine in me. You don’t go around the way he did.
No way I could have a guy like that working for me. EVER. I don’t care how good he is at what he does. Can’t trust him.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
An employee of mine would never act this way.
But, that’s because we treat our employees better than MLB organizations treat their minor-leaguer players.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
well that's true too
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
yes
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
my weed eater will cut down small trees
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
A sapling-eater?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
giant mutant goat
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 2, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
then he should just be cut.
either get him off the team completely or let him play. i mean, i can understand why they would be angry. but either play him or cut him. keeping him around at AAA makes no sense
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
they want to win championships
in the minor leagues
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
can't say I blame them there
not like we are going to win one here this year
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
we might have had a better chance with greene on the team for the last month.
imagine…all of our position players playing…in their positions!!! incredible
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Greenes been hurt
remember? He was hurt for the first part of the month.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
bah details
seriously though, he played in 14 games in August in which he OPSed .862. he’s healthy now, and he was healthy when we acquired feliz
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i've made a career here at VEB ignoring
those minor details. i don’t suggest anyone else try it though
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
as is the endless defense of having said
worst players in baseball.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Now, Now...
expressing an opinion is not trolling; expressing a heap of irritating nonsense for the purposes of eliciting objections is trolling, sort of like…ummm, like, errr…..ummmm….
Oh wait…
;=8)
Spare me your taradiddles!!!!
:=8O
It's not what he's expressing, Cow. It's how.
Now.
Brown.
Cow.
by spants on Sep 2, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
well done.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
why? why is this not green?
i know, i know, because i touch myself at night
f’in self
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
damn, I really didn't need to know that.
Of course, one of my older brothers had a saying: There’s two kinds of liars in this world, those that say they never have and those that say they’ve quit.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not here to talk about the past
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
by gdm426 on Sep 3, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I find the faux outrage at what Greene did to be old.
I believe in winning over settling scores. So, when the faux outrage at what Green did rears its head, I point out that other players on the 25-man roster deserve a similar fate more than Greene, because the organization is in the business of winning baseball games and business is bad right now, so they need to change their personnel.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i like you bgh. we're on the same wavelength here.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
bgh... ihb... aaaaaaaahhhhhh
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
get a hammock.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
aaaaahhhh— wait, what?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i might have to make up a dream involving another player and a different resting device in order to get this thing to die
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
it's out there now
guys here live for these stories, since it’d be too weird to tell about their own dreams
btw, hammock in the glossary already?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
I don't think the glossary has been updated in a year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
too bad
and no, hammock is 1) personal, and 2) not baseball-related.
it wouldn’t go in either way.
…twss
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
its slightly baseball related
but i will not be sad to see it never make the glossary
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Yeah, but then we'll just latch on to that dream
“Why don’t you and Pedro Feliz go get a futon!”
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
*though that wouldn't be that interesting a dream
Miles can never get past first base.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Sep 2, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Rec'd like IHB's hammock.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Sep 2, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stavinoha on the papasan
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i think i actually had a dream about boog later but no one latched onto that one
too obvious i suppose
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
to be fair...
no one latched on as much because I believe you repeated the hammock dream in multiple threads.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
No...I don't think she repeated it.
Mysterui and I may have had something to do with it, however.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
nope.
i had a dream last night that matt holliday was a lawyer at my firm, but he also still played for the cardinals
by IHeartBoog on Jul 19, 2010 7:15 PM CDT on
Game 93 Open Thread: Hawksworth vs. Kendrick
…t was way more important and that is what people will remember him for. i think we were laying in a hammock….
*
not really. he worked at my firm but he was also still a pro baseball player
by IHeartBoog on Jul 20, 2010 7:33 PM CDT on Game 94 Open Thread: Phillies at Cardinals
and he told me he was embarrassed about his HR derby performance while we sat on a hammock. i think we were having an affair, but (thankfully) there was no affair-type conduct in my dream….
—
When you don’t plead the Fifth, meme-stickiness increases.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...it's not that hard.
also, we are watching you.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm certain the second time was in response to a question
in any event, i have no regrets
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
you threw meat to the wolves, dude
linking to previous comment < juicy details
….i mean. er. yeah.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I will note that there was a coincidental thread just before
about a different kind of hammock. kind of set it all up.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Was it reported that someone was actually upset with the Greene situation?
Guy was going to get sent down and was hurt and should have been put on the ML DL instead of being sent down (if he was truly hurt, which it seems he was).
This is the way it should have worked. Was it reported that the Org, either Mo or TLR, was upset for Greene for this?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 2, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i am curious about this as well
we assume they are because he’s not up here now
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Tony sounded upset about it
when asked in the post game interview. Does FSMW archive those?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
So this is supposedly a hubbub because TLR
“sounded” upset in an interview? Doesn’t he always sound upset during interviews?
And what difference would it make to TLR whether he was demoted or DL’ed, even if he did care (which I haven’t seen any evidence that he did)?
The whole thing sounds like fake drama.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 2, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
and TLR is paying the salary?
Again, not a difference.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 2, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not that fact that he was demoted or DL'd,
it was the way he went about informing the team about it through his agent.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Mo deals with agents all the time.
A team is not supposed to send down injured players; they’re supposed to go on the ML DL if they are hurt while playing for the ML team.
It’s not like the team was surprised Greene was injured; he had already missed time because of the injury.
Sounds like everyone here was just complying with the CBA.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 2, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
is it just me
tg was hurt and everyone knew it
he was trying to play with, pinch hitting almost exclusively
what’s the surprise?
he has to tell his agent and
his agent makes the decision to call jmo
i think the cause and effect here is out of line re tg as a bad person
he’s an effin rookie, it’s why he has an agent
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
it IS getting old. we should definitely stop signing them.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
If the shoe fits...
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 3, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
In regards to the Greene DL/ "surprise injury"
I thought the team had already known that Greene was injured and was playing through the injury. The injury occured on a HBP in the hand/wrist, and he missed a few games because of it. I thought it was already known he was playing injured and that he was gutting it out to help the team who’s infield was already a bit knicked up at the time. If that is the case, I agree with what Greene did and disagree with what the Cards tried to do to him. It appeared that he was knowingly playing injured in an attempt to help the struggling/injured infield, and the Cards tried to reward him by demoting him instead of DL’ing him. Maybe he and the Cards knew that the injury wasn’t one that warrented a DL stint, but if that’s the case, you don’t reward a guy who’s gutting it out for you by cutting his pay.
Padres' RFL for GG!
by stxcardsfan on Sep 2, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
from what I've been able to gather he injured himself on the 17th
and then he started a couple of games at 3rd and a couple at SS after that. Supposedly he was very heavily bandaged. I don’t know if he messed up or not during those games. They used him occasionally as a pinch hitter. Around the 29th they were going to send him down. and that’s when it started.
"I'll be in the conversation at the end of the year." Adam Wainwright
all i know is
when john gall finally gets some playing time, that guy’s gonna rake.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Sep 2, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
so is this a late season Cardinals curse
or why have the Padres lost the last 7 in a row too?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
the GOB didn't like that trade much I guess
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that really a fan confidence poll on the front page,
or is SBN keeping track of the stock market?
He'll be here all night folks!
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Sep 2, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been shorting the fan confidence poll for two months now
supplementing my fat sbnation paycheck.
It really can't represent our true feelings.
As negative values are not allowed.
by Ghostrider520 on Sep 2, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR says
“I’m not all that excited about the reception we’re gonna get when we get home on Friday”
in the FSNMW video of the postgame interview
we’re all frustrated but if someone boos i’m gonna punch them in the face
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Does TLR think the fans will boo?
Or, is he going to intentionally start a horrible lineup so that we lose and this will trigger the booing of TLR for forcing paying customers to watch Aaron Miles play shortstop, Pedro Feliz bat, and Mike MacDougal throw?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
wouldn't you expect to be booed?
i don’t know that he’d pull that lineup shit at home with the reds in the guest dugout
i gotta say though, i am a little worried we might embarrass ourselves this weekend. at this point sweeping the reds one more time could be a good consolation prize for not making the playoffs. i don’t care if lose the rest, the reds need another ass whooping
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
I would expect to be booed.
Well, I would expect to be booed in any town but St. Louis. At least in the early going. I think if the team plays well and competes with the Reds, there will be no booing. But, if the team seemingly rolls over and embarrasses itself like it has for the last week, the boos will come.
I would love for a sweep of the Reds, but I find such a performance from the Cards highly unlikely.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
People boo in STL.
the same day zambrano got booed by the cubs VEB freaked out over how classy STL and how we’d never do that…the exact same day we booed adam kennedy.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
We booed Matt Holliday earlier this year at a game I was at.
I was flabbergasted.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
izzy couldn't be reached for comment.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
That was utterly ridiculous.
(MooCow can reply to this.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Utterly...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
well there was plenty Lohse booing
at pretty much all of his starts i’ve seen this year
that’s bullshit
unless your player pulls a nyjer morgan or brandon phillips, don’t boo
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
they're only booing his contract
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"It's not you, Kyle, it's your contract."
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
"it's not you, miles, it's TLR for having you on the rosterrrrrrrr"
clap clap clap
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
"We love what you've done with your hair."
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Now,
I’m going to do something I like to call the ’Compliment Sandwich" Where I say something good, talk about where you need improvement, and then end with something good.
Something good… something good…you have excellent crime fighting skills and it makes me smile…but you have no business in the majors.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Cheer-boo-cheer?
WE LOVE YOUR GRIT, AARON! (YOU CAN’T FIELD OR GET AN XBH, BOO!) NICE SHAVED HEAD, YAY!
Heh
You look like Snoopy and it makes me smile
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
see previous post.
there are screenshots.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so he just supposed to give up and let them keep throwing at him?
The Marlins showed themselves last night to be completely classless. So, Morgan stole two bases. They threw at him and hit him with an 11 run lead!!!!
Good for him for shoving it back in their faces.
So, then Volstad, like a bitch, throws at him again? With that big lead. Grow the fuck up, you deserved to get punched. To bad it was only a glancing blow.
I love how the Marlins are acting like Morgan shouldn’t be stealing when losing by 11 runs. Wtf, kind of logic is that?
Hey, we’re up by 11, you need to give up.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
they hit him
for taking out the catcher. He Then stole two bases.
No one should charge for a pitcher throwing behind someone.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
are you kidding?
they they’re now mad because he stole two bases????
How many times to do they get to throw at him?
Seriously? So, they throw at him for the catcher. He took it and then stole two bases. That was wrong of him?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
throwing behind someone is not throwing at him
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
The only difference is you don't get ejected for one
by lopey986 on Sep 2, 2010 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the batter not getting hit with the ball
is another big difference
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
the catcher's season ended because of that shit
he could have just slid in safely and they probably would have won but noooo, i am nyjer morgan, i have to be a dick! watch it again if you think it was harmless
so he got hit for it as expected the next night. jim riggleman will tell you that was the right thing for the marlins to do
they are down 11 runs and mr morgan decides to boost his own stats by running and stealing twice. that is an unwritten rule, you don’t do that. so he gets a pitch behind just as a warning i don’t get even close to hit but oooh no, i am nyjer morgan, i’ll go attack the pitcher and then have my ass beat by gaby sanchez and get myself ejected. then my pitcher hits sanchez because he knocked me on my ass hard and we have my manager and one more of our coaches ejected. i am mighty nyjer morgan! of course we lose but then after the game i pretend like i’m innocent and i’m just “defending my teammates”
game recap
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Yeah, I think Morgan is clearly in the wrong overall.
Don’t understand the unnecessary attempts to take out catchers. He should expect to be thrown at for pulling stuff like that, especially since it was a dumb baseball move. Just make the slide and try to score the run.
However, I have always hated these “unwritten rules”. Actual baseball events which improve your chance of winning should not be considered out of line, in my opinion, no matter the score. Should batters not try to get hits when they are up by a bunch of runs? If Albert hits a homer with the Cardinals up by 12 runs I would be very pissed if the other team tried to retaliate in some way.
So I don’t blame him for stealing bases. I remember when Mike Martz was coaching the Rams, and he once got criticized for pulling a trick play when the Rams were up by tons of points. These are professional sports, not little league, and I don’t really care if teams keep trying to pile on because it’s not their job to help out their opponent.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i wouldn't have had a problem with stealing bases whatever
but with his recent history – what happened in philly that he’s awaiting a suspension, and then with anderson that was absolutely beyond unnecessary and now injuring brett hayes so bad he ended his season although a slide would have been plenty, i reject the suggestion that he is not doing anything wrong. you’re gonna play like a rabies infested gorilla on speed, you get your ass beat.
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
One of these days he's going to run into a brick wall.
And I can’t wait to see the replay.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he definitely did do something wrong.
But didn’t he steal the bases after the Marlins put him on base? I just don’t get the anger over that particular act, I totally understand the rest. If you don’t want a fast player to steal bases then don’t put him on first.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I don't care about him stealing bases.
The guy has some anger-management issues. One of these days those issues may get his ass kicked for him.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely
The Nationals need to do something about him.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
save the unwritten rule b.s.
lame. little league stuff.
So, I guess according to you and Wes Helms, if you’re down by double digits, you just stop trying to score runs.
Were the Marlins not allowed to throw Morgan out? Or maybe they should have thrown the ball at him while he was standing on 3rd base?
And the play at the plate might have been un-necesary and un-needed, but that doesn’t make it dirty. The catcher was standing on home plate. Why is Hanley Ramirez not getting thrown at by Chris Volstad? If he delivers a ball that’s not 2 feet over the catcher’s head, then the catcher is in position to take the hit.
Catchers are trained to block the plate. He was standing on the plate. It’s unfortunate but that’s the way it goes.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
idgaf about unwritten rules
they’re interesting and amusing but it’s still in your hands to decide when you run bases and when not. expect there to be retaliation though because some people still play by them
charging the mound for being thrown behind though? overreact much?
injuring someone on purpose though is bush league i don’t care who you are
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
if morgan gets sat down bc of that for longer than Cueto did
i’ll be really pissed
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I thought stealing the bases was pretty badass and awesome
“Hit me? Fuck you and your ERA.”
Not afraid to nitpick
exactly
if you don’t like it……throw him out!!!!
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I don't think he did anything wrong
He probably could have slid and been safe, but that is only b/c the ball was thrown high. Morgan didn’t know that, he isn’t watching the ball being thrown home. I cannot tell you how many times I’ve gotten upset with Cardinals this year for some weak slide into home, most of the time getting tagged out, when I thought they could have ran the catcher over. That is a part of the game. Maybe not in a blowout, but in a tie game in extra innings? You need to be sure.
yeah sure, instead run full speed into the catcher
and get him injured and yourself injured – cause that’s smart
also remember, the catcher is wearing more padding than you are and you’re more likely to take yourself out, which doesn’t help your team
get your math straight – one game lost is one game. injuring yourself over one single game and having to sit out the next 10 is hardly worth it in the regular season.
chris carpenter ran standing up into 2nd after the edwin jackson incident – i love carp, but that was also wrong. he didn’t run the second baseman over though.
carp played hockey too and he’s a big big guy but you don’t see him throw punches, throw himself at the catcher or throw in a shoulder at someone that just tagged him out to knock him over just cause.
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Carpenter is also a pitcher
Huge difference.
by lopey986 on Sep 2, 2010 12:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he could have kept his mouth shut during the Reds fight
and that would have prevented everything else that happened from happening.
Anyway, say he’s not a douche if you want, but he’s fought with at least one teammate and scolded another (an adult mind you) in the dugout. Not to mention escelating the Reds fight by running his mouth.
Look, I’m not saying he’s a douche. I love the guy, but if you’re using Chris Carpenter as an argument on how baseball players should act, then you’re using the wrong guy.
He’s 30 years old and acts like a teenager.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
How do you know he scolded another?
Carpenter was out of sight, in the tunnel. We couldn’t see his demeanor. We don’t know what he said. There is no basis for characterizing the exchange in such a way.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Carp is a leader....
…sometimes a leader needs to kick butt, even among adults. We know that Boog has occasional maturity issues – there is nothing wrong with Carp taking him to the side, out of the view of the fans, and explaining in no uncertain terms just how a professional major league player out to behave/prepare/act/whatever. That is the sort of leadership you expect and hope your vet players will give to the younger ones; it just happens that Carp looks huge compared to mini-Boog, who I have no doubt was intimidated profoundly. That is not being a douche.
Johnny Cueto and Brandon Philips – that was certainly douchy behavior and had nothing to do with leadership, only the lack of it.
:=8/
I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O
i've seen albert and yadi have some angry signs and words
so? doesn’t mean they don’t get along. none of the stuff you speculate about was ever carried out in public and you don’t know that it really happened. the luggage meme is all fine and dandy and funny but it is probably far from the truth.
the reds fight, everyone was yelling shit at everyone, i put it on rolen’s misjudged jump towards carp for the escalation. and even then carpenter didn’t throw a single punch
swinging at opposing players though and injuring people just because you can, you are practically begging to get your ass beat
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
you could write a book on the differences between carp and nyjer morgan
carp is an intense competitor, and maybe even a little mean, but he’s classy. his anger during the edwin jackson situation came from the fact that jackson was being really UNCLASSY by hitting a pitcher in the arm.
also, i fail to see how jawing at another team, especially after one of their players publicly called his team a bunch of bitches, is at all like purposely running into the catcher TWICE in a week, throwing a all at a fan, or charging the mound after a ball gets thrown behind you
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Edwin Jackson
Are you trying to tell me that Jackson tried to hit carp in the arm? He does not have that type of control…
Look Carp is kind of a tool at times. I can admit it and move on. He is not at the Nyjer Morgan level but Carp is still a tool at times.
well he did throw a no-hitter... not entirely his achievement but still
the point Carp made about that hit was, why are you pitching inside if you’re facing someone that hits .100 and if you can’t control it
you’re facing the opposing starter, try not to aim inside on his hands
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Carp
I understand why he was upset. He is a shitty hitter and pretty much knows he is not a threat to get a hit.
Jackson knows that Carp is a bad hitter, and Jackson has a great fastball. Jackson figured he would not let Carp extend and get a cheap hit so he wanted to work him in. At that point in the season Jackson was struggling with control.
I can see why Carp was upset but he is a tool at times and a bit of a hot head. I think after the game once he cooled down he said it was bush league of him to go into 2B standing up and not veering off…
No need to try to rationalize Carp. He is a hot head at times.
not to mention
he would have been safe if he’d slid. Instead he chose to try this macho bs some more and cost his team a run.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Hate to say it...
…but Lohse needs to be booed if he cowtinues to pitch as he is, maybe not to lead off, but after you give up 6 runs in 4 innings, yeah, expect the boos, even in ST. Lou.
I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O
Suppan makes Lohse look like an ace
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think signing him and having him start was the dumbest move of the year
and I don’t see that being instigated by Mozeliak. that said, Mozeliak needs to start acting more like a GM and less like a lackey
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure we do.
What I am saying is that the crowd is not going to boo during the announcement of the lineup or something. They will boo if the Cards play as badly as they have played over the road trip.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
my favorite is still the sarcastic applause.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
man that pisses Al off more than anything
and that makes me giggle.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
"embarrasses itself like it has for the last week?"
We’ve lost like 13 or 14 of the last 17 games. It’s absurd. We’ve embarrassed ourselves since sweeping CIN.
So. Frustrating.
yes destroy the reds
even if nothing else matters I don’t care to see Brandon Phillips or Dusty Baker or Cueto experience happiness.
Sorry Mr. Rolen
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 2, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
31 games left...if the reds keep their win % it'll take 27 wins to tie...
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Sep 2, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think Tony
needs to make one of these things for MO. . . or vice versa
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
no one wants to see either of them in their skivvies
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
sadly
Pedro Feliz is like the only guy hitting right now not named Aaron Miles or Skip Schumaker…..
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Pedro Feliz is not hitting.
Last 7 days: .136/.174/.237/.447
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
first of all, it was in jest
second of all, have you noticed how much the rest of the team has performed the last couple of days?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
they deserve to get boo'd
they are playing like shit
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
i really hate that people are anti booing
you payed for you’re ticket, if you want to boo, boo. fans need to stop taking that Best Fans In Baseball BS so 6ly
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i just don't feel like booing my fuckin team
so stfu
i might not applaud but i won’t boo
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
that's great & you can do whatever you want
but why some people have to shove their nose into everyone else’s business about the booing i’ll never understand
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Yep.
Bernie’s pissed. Can’t say as that blame him for that. The ball has been dropped be everybody in the organization that had control of it.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
.
Something is wrong when you have a $95 million payroll and the best you can do to back Pujols and Holliday in the crucial No. 5 lineup spot is to give turns to non-threatening bats such as Jon Jay, Allen Craig, Winn, Feliz, Lopez, Yadier Molina and Nick Stavinoha. Those players have combined for nearly 200 plate appearances in the No. 5 spot this season.
Ayup. Though for some reason Rasmus was batting 7th for a few of those I’m sure.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Feliz hitting no. 5 and Rasmus hitting no. 7 makes no sense whatsoever.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
bernie said this too
this was a great article. i wonder if it will spark some life out of this team
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I would take any kind of spark, don't get me wrong,
but, I fear that, if they need a column by Bernie to spark them, the season is already lost.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
RIP 2010, we hardly knew thee
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I'm kind of confused as to why he bring Luhnow into the "blame game".
We can only draft so many people. Luhnow can’t force the team to play the prospects we develop. We didn’t have a fantastic farm to begin with and we traded away or promoted most of our talent. Colby Rasmus and Jaime Garcia have been great this year and they are—gasp!—products of the farm system.
Also, winnings teams don’t get high draft picks. I honestly don’t see how Luhnow has anything to do with our troubles this season.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Luhnow wants Amaury Marti Cazana to play
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Agreed
I’ve actually been fairly happy with the draft/farm over the last few years. Yes, they’ve let a few guys pass by them in the draft, and yes, they’ve missed on a few guys, but they’ve drafted and developed some decent talent along the way. You also have to consider the number of prospects we’ve moved in recent years, especially last year at the deadline.
there are huge holes in the organizational depth chart
too many one-dimensional players
e.g., wallace, and maybe even cox
hamilton
craig
luna
stock
scruggs
….
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
So we have a huge hole not even a cox can fill.
Gotcha.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Sep 2, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was an odd thing to do.
I would argue that the best solution to our third base problem is Tyler Greene. The blame would seem to lie at the feet of the Mo/TLR duo for him not even being on the 25-man roster and starting at third base these days.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Exactly
Luhnow has no power over how his farm products are used. Or how they are traded.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
but generally speaking it is his duty to keep it well stocked?
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
They get who they get in the draft.
Whether the draft works in our favor is up to the players. Lunhow seems to do a fairly good job at picking considering what they have to choose from. Whether they actually develope into something or not depends on the player and luck.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
by that philosophy you really couldn't blame any
farm director. If it was easy everybody would be able to do it.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Wasn't meaning to make it sound easy.
Just meaning that he seems to do a decent job of drafting. They don’t tend to rush players along. So in the end, it’s the players’ talent and work that will get them moving forward. It also requires a great deal of luck in them not getting injured. How good might Bombs have been if he hadn’t hurt his wrists? How good would Freese have been if he hadn’t had the car accident? That’s assuming that the current injury has nothing to do with it, like they say.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
their plan is to do a superior job of drafting
and they are not
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
So do we lose badly for a couple of years so we can get down lower to get the good players before they are all gone?
How do you think Tampa Bay got all those good young players? They got their asses kicked for years is how. The Pirates have a ton of good young players come thru, but they don’t acquire enough good FAs to go with the young players. Who would you have had them pick this year, other than who they picked from the pool they had?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
So do we lose badly for a couple of years so we can get down lower to get the good players before they are all gone?
How do you think Tampa Bay got all those good young players? They got their asses kicked for years is how. The Pirates have a ton of good young players come thru, but they don’t acquire enough good FAs to go with the young players. Who would you have had them pick this year, other than who they picked from the pool they had?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
you can say that again
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
at this rate
we might be picking in the top 5 next June!
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
exactly the point
finishing high makes for a problem that can only be fixed with money (see yankees, red sox)
don’t draft high
don’t have $150M payroll
you get this year, trying to fix problems, and can’t
only the cheapest possible pickups (literally)
AAA replacements seen as inadequate
caught in the middle
there was clearly no middle ground this year and they were not willing to pony up for better than soup, winn, etc
plain and simple, they lose
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
But they have the players make commercials
thanking us for helping them make it happen. Like a giant slap in the face.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
So, are you advocating we lose
or spend a shit-ton of money? Regardless of whether we get 3mil fans a year or not, we’re a medium market and have a ceiling as to what we can spend. Somebody on here did a post, I think, about how much money the Cards make and it isn’t a helluva lot more than they spend. I’m not certain, in this economy, how high they can raise the ante and expect people to show up, because we’re the ones towing the freight.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
recent baseball financing shenanigans
give me pause about the % of revenue invested in operations
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Yes
But look at the renewed focus on Latin America since Luhnow has been in charge. We’ve been in on a lot of the top prospects from that region in the last 3-4 seasons, something that didn’t happen under Jocketty.
They’ve also drafted fairly well in the middle rounds with guys like Allen Craig and Matt Carpenter coming from there. The one really awful pick they’ve made is Kozma, and you might be able to put Greene in that category too unless he somehow pans out.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Speaking of which
has there been any more news on Matias?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
still?
Is this being done my pony express?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
by*
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a boat involved.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Dude
Do you watch the news? Our immigration system is FUCKED UP. This stuff takes forever.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
There's issues with his birth certificate and verification of age
Made more complicated by all the guys from the D-R that have allegedly done this before.
That said, the process got bogged down even before they got to that point.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I get it that it's fucked up.
I just didn’t think it would take that long to a 17 yr. old kid from there to here.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
my canadian friend
has been in the states for 7 years now and still isn’t a citizen. He has to carry around a green card.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
he doesn't have to
if he’s had the green card for 5 years (or 3 if married to a us citizen) he can file for citizenship
my green card is in my safe at home
a driver’s license should be enough for him to id himself
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
He's married to a citizen
and has been for almost four years. Two years ago he had to go to StL to take some test and pay some fees to keep his green card. It is all very confusing!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
How long did it take to get the green card?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
no clue
wasn’t my friend before he had it and I never asked
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
does he have a good hook up with some canadian bacon?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Allen Craig
was moved off of 3rd base 2-3 years ago b/c of La Russa. He might have been the best solution to the 3B situation had he been given a chance to prove himself over there.
what?
I’m sure LaRussa didn’t even know Allen Craig was in the organization when he was moved from 3rd.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
This
The things TLR is getting blamed for these days is ridiculous. I feel like I’ve taken crazy pills.
Spring Training
Criag hit .300/.373/.567 in Spring Training 2009. I remember him playing at third during that time, but I can’t find anything definitive.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You better have some airtight evidence for that, Chuck
Because F-R and other sources have reported that just about every coach at AA or above didn’t think he could hack it at 3B due to his wimpy arm strength. He was moved off of 3B before Tony LaRussa even knew who he was.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
...
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/search/media.jsp?player_id=453895
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
remember when we thought he would be locked out of the bus because nobody hearted him?
it’s not so bad now
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
no, it didn't really happen
if it did, IHB would be even more depressed.
there are some interesting JEd-related stories, though, but I’m not familiar with them.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i think the one that's closest to be printed in media
is connected to the taxi mixup in new york.
i’m not sure where to find that, though.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i do
Ryan, whose time-keeping skills have occasionally been an issue within the Cardinals organization, drew headlines when he showed up late for a game in New York against the Mets. It turned out that Ryan’s cab driver had taken him to Yankee Stadium instead of Shea Stadium. "
“Having found his (St. Louis) teammates had frozen his clothes, Ryan was struggling to thaw them out — and blowing a fuse in manager Tony LaRussa’s office in the process — when Cardinals slugger Albert Pujols pulled him aside. "Albert went to the training room and gave me a collared shirt," Ryan said. "I was like, ‘Sweet!’ I got some acceptance from Albert Pujols. Nice.’"
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
he froze the clothes.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the Cards sure aren't as fun without Hollywood
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I'd be surprised if that shirt didn't look like a nightshirt on him.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
clearly Bernie stole from my comment yesterday
i demand reparations!
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
That's about the fifth time I've read Esteban Yan's name here this week.
This madness must stop.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Here, I thought there was an agreement not to mention him again.
And now CodyG is posting pictures of the man…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
it's not as though we all changed our avatars to him
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there has to be a better one of him sweating
bee dubs, do not google image search esteban yan & the word sweating. there are some things you just can’t unsee
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Not to say that wouldn't be good
but would again fit into the “only playing to the level of the competition” mantra
and.... if the opposite?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Then it's time to start talking about 2011.
If we get swept by the Reds we’re down 11 games, right? I honestly am not sure about that figure because it’s been so depressing to keep track of all the details lately.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
oh, I was trying to trick saladdays into sharing a drink mix
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
they will
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
as BAD as i want to watch october baseball
there is this tiny, ittybitty part of me that wouldn’t mind missing the playoffs if it means tony’s retirement. is that awful? should i have said that out loud?
don’t get me wrong, i’d be much happier to see this team win. but at this point, i don’t think i could handle them getting 1 game out of the WC and losing it on the last day of the season. a huge resurgence, just to fall short, might not convince the manager to go.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
go away Tony! please, 15 years is enough!
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Though such a resurgence and just falling short would comport with how the Birds have played recently.
Well, before the Houston series, at least.
it wasn't bad, and it's fine to say out loud
there there IHB, it’ll be OK, everything will be OOOOOKKKKKK
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Article on Suppan at Fangraphs
here.
Best lines of the article?
The fact that Jeff Suppan has already received nine starts is a big reason why the Cardinals are now eight games back. If he’s not the worst starting pitcher in the National League, he’s close…
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 2, 2010 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
For chrissakes,
how many players on our roster can accuratley be characterized as “the worst _______ in baseball”?
Suppan – the Worst Statring Pitcher
Miles – the Worst Position Player
Feliz – the Worst-hitting Regular Starter
MacDogual – the Worst Reliever (or maybe Reyes gets this, or is he just the Worst LOOGY?)
I know I’m beating a dead horse here, but roster construction just killed us this season.
You really don't want the answer to that question.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know about drawing Suppan receiving 9 starts being a "big reason why the Cardinals are now eight games back."
This is saying that Suppan’s pitching is responsible and I disagree. The post correctly points out the Cards’ 3-6 record in Suppan starts. The author then contradicts his own statement.
In his nine starts, the Cardinals have given him 3, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 3, and 2 runs in support, respectively, and Suppan simply isn’t good enough or lucky enough to win with so little offense behind him.
What pitcher is good enough to have a winning record when his offense is giving him an average of 1.22 runs per game? I would suggest no pitcher in MLB is that good. In two-thirds of his starts, the club has scored 0 or 1 run. Suppan has allowed 24 runs over his 9 St. Louis starts. That is 2.55 runs per start. (His ERA of 4.47 reflects the lack of innings in those 9 starts.) If you would have told me that, over 9 starts, Suppan would surrender 2.55 runs on average, I’d have told you that you were crazy. I don’t think that Jeff Suppan will be able to keep this up for very much longer, but, even so, Jeff Suppan is not a reason why we are 8 games back in the division, let alone “a big reason.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He has a 5.7 FIP with the Cardinals
The guy blows and isn’t close to a MLB pitcher.
Not afraid to nitpick
In his defense...
…he does sport some sweet facial hair, and he relentlessly mocked that abomination of a computer generated, talking baseball graphic back in the ‘06 playoffs. Also, I understand that he’s got a word of the day calendar that he shares with the clubhouse and broadcast booth.
But yeah, he really shouldn’t be throwing a baseball in a high-level, competitive environment anymore.
I'm not saying he is good. I'm not saying he can keep accomplishing the same results with his stuff.
What I am saying is that Jeff Suppan’s 9 starts were not bad in their results and that to tie them to our being back in the standings is inappropriate. This is not an argument about whether he should be on the roster or continue to get starts for the Cardinals. This is whether him starting is to blame for the club’s current spot in the standings.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yeah the point is, it doesn't matter who is pitching for us - with that kind of run support, you can hardly expect better than a .500 winning percentage
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
FWIW
5.50 is replacement level FIP for a starter. So he’s close to an MLB pitcher but probably no closer than PJ Walters or Evan MacLane.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
He's close to being a fringe-but-not-really starter on a bad team
If he lands a MLB contract in the off-season I’d be shocked.
Not afraid to nitpick
I agree with all of this.
I just disagree with assigning any blame to Suppan for the Cardinals’ current place in the standings.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm...
What pitcher is good enough to have a winning record when his offense is giving him an average of 1.22 runs per game?
I can think of two: Bob Gibson and Bert Blyleven (the King of the 1-0 victory). That’s about it I think. Maybe Koufax in his prime.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Any time you need three of the best pitchers in history
to throw games for you just to break .500, you have a problem with your offense.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
once that stops, the tears come
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
by d-dee on Sep 2, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you don't strike me as a crier
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
cue more picspam.
B_Walton Joe Mather has 13-game hitting streak, batting .434 for MEM with 6 doubles, 3 HR and 12 RBI. about 12 hours ago via TweetDeck
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Anybody gotta link to listen to the games.
Hearing Joey Bombs go on a tear is a lot more interesting than listening to the Crads get their asses kicked for the rest of the year.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
by The Continental on Sep 2, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you, TC.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
We should probably start pointing that out more
with the pennant races underway. More folks would probably follow along if they knew that there was easy, free audio of the games.
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
by The Continental on Sep 2, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
back me up when I post gameday links?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
indeed.
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
by The Continental on Sep 2, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll say it.....
I hope Mather is healthy enough to be the RF platoon next year with Jay. I like his bat better than Craig’s, IF he is healthy and recovered from the wrist problems.
Favorite part
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Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
Tyler Greene
Why is it Greene’s fault he’s not on the major league roster? I’ve seen a few comments about it but I’m not sure what he did.
When he was supposed to be sent down to Memphis
he called his agent, who, in turn, called Mo and got him moved to the DL. Thus pissing Tony off.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
his agent should have gotten miles moved to the DL
by DanUpBaby on Sep 2, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
If he could pull that off,
I’d be willing to give the guy 10% of what I make.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i lol'd loud at work
…would that be LOL^2?
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
i find it distressing i keep having to ask why comments aren't green
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
isn't there still a slight possibility it was just a coincidence.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I don't believe in coincidences like that.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then I’m going to bet that it’s not a chihuahua.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
o rly?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
by IHeartBoog on Sep 2, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i googled dog in duck costume and i thought this was funny
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
That poor pup.
You just know he or she is embarrased.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm so late
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
don't worry guys, thats the ARIZONA cardinals
who might be as bad as the Rams this year
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
There was an article on ESPN.com the other day arguing that the Raiders could win the NFC West if they were in it
That’s a sad state of affairs for that division
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
Less time at the park...
I, like the rest of you, have exhausted every conceivable explanation and scapegoat for this impossibly frustranizating (frustating just doesn’t cut it) team. Is there a metric for this – some aggregation of blown saves, failed comebacks, errors, base-running mistakes and WPA swings? If there is, we are winning at it.
I digress. Danny Mac gave me a possible new explanation the other night. Do you guys think the Cardinals would benefit from spending LESS time at the ballpark?
It kind of makes sense. If I was sucking at my job, I think getting there five hours early would just give me more time to think about my suckiness and get tired. Many of our failings are mental. Maybe if they just showed up and played, they could get past them.
by YepYouGuessedIt...CardinalRed on Sep 2, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
clearly the hot tub needs to be changed out.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
actually it's pretty clear the ingredients in the hot tub have spoiled
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
This team is so tight...
Too late for that.....
It’s nut cutting time, given that the season is almost over, and we’re several games out of a playoff spot. They could show up 30 minutes before game time, and they’d still play tight for that reason.
Maybe earlier in the season that would have helped. I’m afraid it wouldn’t do much now.
Skip looks pissed
at least he cares
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions
Can we get a Game Thread
for this afternoon’s Memphis Redbirds’ game? They’re a game back of Iowa with five to play, and after today, they go to Des Moines for the final four games of the regular season.
Seems to me, this would be a lot more fun than re-hashing the same frustrating things about LaRussa and the Cardinals.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
I Learned a New Word Today!!!! :=8D
Taradiddles – pretentious nonsense; first used in 1794. My favorite new word!!!
:=8D
I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O
That's nertlerb.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
what have we come to
get a hold of yourselves, people
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm thinking yummy beef
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
No, it's at the other end of the universe.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
so you're not one of those Kobe cows that get messaged & drink beer?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Early 2011 predictions
1. Tony LaRussa manages the Cardinals
2. Aaron Miles is on the opening day 25-man roster, but not starting
3. Mike MacDougal is the 5th starter
4. Jake Westbrook is not a Cardinal
5. Colby Rasmus is the starting center fielder…for an AL team
(I’m only half-serious on some of these…I obviously hope that none of these are the case)
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
same
3 will not. 4 could go either way i suppose, but i think it makes sense for the cards to try to keep him. if rasmus leaves and tony stays i quit baseball.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I think the seriousness of 2, 3, and 5 depend on whether 1 happens or not
If 1 happens, I really do believe 2 and 5 would happen, and 3 wouldn’t surprise me (like I’ve said, I’m only half-serious on it anyways…MacDougal in 2010 just reminds me too much of Wellemeyer in 2007 for me to let it go). If 1 doesn’t happen, you can scratch 2, 3, and 5. TLR is the only manager in MLB who would give MLB PAs to Aaron Miles.
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
We better at least get
Dave Cameron in that deal. Dammit. I need more people in our front office to express outrage towards.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Sep 2, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only one I disagree with is #3.
I partially disagree with #5, because I don’t think the Cards will be able to be picky about which league Rasmus ends up in after TLR says something that at the winter meetings that boxes Mo into trading Rasmus for $.60 on the dollar.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm only half-serious about #3
But it wouldn’t surprise me in the least. I could see Colby playing CF for an AL East team (especially Boston…maybe it’s the Colby for Jacoby nonsense I’ve seen lately). Mediocre BA + High OBP + Tons of power just screams American League to me
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
To me...
…that combo screams, “Keep this cost-controlled commodity (at a premium defensive position, no less) at all costs, even if it costs you your manager.”
yes that should be the #2 priority in the offseason
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I agree 100%
If it were me, I’d get rid of LaRussa, try to keep Duncan, sign Westbrook to a 1- or 2-year deal for relatively cheap, kick Miles and Stavinoha to the curb, and fill the fringes of the roster with young talent
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
keep on kicking till mcgrouber, winn, feliz and the like are gone too
i’m sick of the roster being full of nothing but diamonds & shit. i know they can’t be all diamonds, but can’t MO find a few rubies? maybe even a couple emeralds?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
As much as I'd like to see Rasmus stay
…I guess you could argue that this team needs a serious reboot and he is our most valuable / least essential trading piece. Plus, he’s kind if a diva and he not talk good.
You could also argue that he is our only young star and he’s cheap for now, so keep him.
by YepYouGuessedIt...CardinalRed on Sep 2, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions
he’s kind if a diva and he not talk good
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he's kind, if a diva, and he not. talk good.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
it just seems, to be missing a comma
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there it is.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
How is least essential?
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
FAIL
How is HE least essential?
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
yeah i was thinking the SAME thing
he plays a premium defensive position and is currently the only person on the team worthy of hitting in the 5th spot. he’s probably our MOST essential piece
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I'm not sure everyone gets
That if you want to sign Pujols, and agree to options on Carpenter, Molina, and Wainwright then we’ll have about 85-90 million tied up in 6 players by 2012. One of those being Kyle Lohse.
How is Rasmus not essential in those circumstances?
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 2, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
(apocalypse clause)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes, agreed he is really good...
I guess all I am saying is, if people think we need to make a big trade Colby is our best trading piece. I’m taking into consideration the fact that he has struggled with health and had multiple clubhouse problems. Right now he is really valuable. Maybe we trade him and stick Jay in center and get some super-badass infielder that can actually hit.
Just my opinion. I like Colby, but I don’t think he’s the future leader of this team. If we got rid of him now, we’d get a lot in return. I’m just saying…
by YepYouGuessedIt...CardinalRed on Sep 2, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Would need to be another young player
Whoever you get would have to be cost controlled beyond 2012, just like Rasmus is. Generally, though not always, players like Rasmus are dealt from teams that are able and willing to take on additional salary. Don’t see that being an option for the Cards. So they’d have to find someone else that is eager to let go of a similarly talented asset, for whatever reason, and they will need to have as long a window until free agency, or longer.
I just don’t think it is an obvious match. Don’t see where we’re going to be in a salary position to get anyone “proven” for him.
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 2, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
as long as Carp is better than our fifth starter, I want him on.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he has to earn the actual value of his contract back, anyway.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you and your boats....
have you learned nothing?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Next year is his walk season right?
I wouldn’t be opposed to trading him in the offseason, IF we get a serious haul in return
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
How likely is that to happen, though?
I mean, other teams are aware of his medical history and age, too. I just don’t see a ‘haul’ being there in return for him.
I'm not saying someone wouldn't take him...
…I just wonder what return they’d be willing to give. The term ‘haul’ conjures in my mind a Colby/Shelby type prospect plus a few more prospys who are likely to contribute either soon or well at the ML level. I’m just not sure Carp would bring that back.
If it's only for one season though
That’s a risk a fringe playoff candidate could be willing to take
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
For 2012? Player or club?
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
I hope we buy him out (if he's here)
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
(we'd pretty much have to if we want to keep Albert around, no?)
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
stick to cutters
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I would not at all be surprised to see us pick up the option as part of a new deal.
Say, a two-year extension that pays less annually and has a club friendly option for a third year.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That makes sense
What do you think his AAV would be in such a deal?
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
It's tough to say.
If Carp makes it through healthy and pitching effectively, we’re probably looking at eight figures.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
sadly i agree with you
don’t agree on trading he holds not much value given age, injury history, AND contract (best case scenario his AAV breaks even, worst case scenario, he gets injured for a long period of time)… not exactly prime trade bait there
not the sox
especially red sox… if im not mistaken they have amazing pitching depth and the yankees are too shabby either
Red Sox pitchers next year
Beckett
Bucholz
lackey
matsuzaka
bowden
wakefield
all are under contract for next year
by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 2, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
this is like cheese-chief talk
words from cheese, speed from jay
very stressful
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
2010 season
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Sep 2, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
To accurately depict the 2010 season...
…I think a third wheel would need to be flying off.
And Lopez would need to be letting one of the wheels go between his legs while Miles or Skip dive and come up three feet short of another as it flies by.
by dronemc on Sep 2, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
no. this is our season:
(though for some reason the animation doesn’t work on my browser)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's working here.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
somewhere, something is switched off, then.
must investigate my browser.
is it looping?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
indeed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
man, i have so many plug-ins, I can't figure out what would be switched off.
it’s not looping on the other site either.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
try a different browser?
FF 4 here.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no, I just fiddle with settings a lot
mouse could have slipped
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That's an "Oh Shit!!!!" picture if I ever saw one.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
has the new shipment of unicorns made it yet?
JoeStrauss
Just got accused of being a Cards homer at STLtoday.com. I’m gonna respond as soon as I finish polishing the wheels on BDJ’s Benz. 3 minutes ago via web
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
hahahahaha who would ever accuse strauss of being a homer? thats unbelieveable
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
STLtoday.com....
not that unbelievable.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Successful troll is successful
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
i laughed a lot when i read that this afternoon
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
where is mysterui?
claims to be the king of off days then leaves us here to rot in our own disgust and despair
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Breakfast cereal
God tier:
- Cocoa Puffs
- Honey Comb
Good tier:
- Cheerios
- Golden Graham
Shit tier:
- Fruity Pebbles
- Frosted Flakes (yes, I said it)
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
i like the smell of froot loops
nothing like fake fruit flavors.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what?
no honey bunches in the god tier
and why do you hate fruity pebbles? they’re fruity
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Fruity Pebbles are nasty
I’ve never had Honey Bunches of Oats, so I can’t comment. I also forgot about Froot Loops, as Y2S pointed out; I’d put them in the shit tier as well. I also forgot about Cinnamon Toast Crunch, which belongs in the God tier!
Forgive me, I’m new at this. The list was hastily thrown together.
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
i am on a mission to try as many american cereals as i can
keep coming back to the honey bunches with almonds
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
as I stated above
Raisin Nut Bran is really good too
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 2, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i eat cracklin oat bran right out of the box
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
honey combs???? no.
god tier:
lucky charms
cinnamon toast crunch
good tier:
cheerios
golden grahams
shit tier:
cream of wheat
raisin bran
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
delicious..if you get the right kind
quaker oats maple & brown sugar and also strawberries & cream belong in the oatmeal god tier
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i eat oatmeal every single morning
except now i have to eat plain organic oatmeal sprinkled with organic brown sugar. don’t do that.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i accidentally read a book that told me how bad non-organic food is and now i've developed a complex.
i’m half kidding. but i am trying to lose weight before my high school reunion next month
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
the organic food thing - largely a myth
get a bowflex, drink water
ex-boyfriends at the reunion?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
really? how so? i am actually curious about this.
i figured it probably doesn’t hurt not to put unnecessary chemicals in your body.
yes, ex-boyfriends of course. i don’t care much about them, i am perfectly happy where i’m at. but you know…its fun to look better at 27 than you did in high school.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Start
Just a reason to charge more for food, IMO.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
now why does the bible ministries care about organic food
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
this was meant to be sarcastic...
and i’m not talking about politics or religion!
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i meant as in a catalog of cases, didn't look at it that thoroughly
bottom line, keep your extra money you pay for organic and buy some good steaks with it
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
grass fed beef????
so, serious question: why are organic farmers using manure to fertilize crops? because they can’t use chemicals? and does that mean that farmers than CAN use chemicals DON’T use manure???
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Grass fed beef is awesome....
that is no myth.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
True dat
Grass fed beef isn’t organic it’s just very cost effective for the farmer if you have that much grass.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a lot of grass in MT,
corn has to be bought. Nothing better than a good thick Ribeye from grass fed beef…..Sorry cow.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That's how I grow mine.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
First time I had corn fed beef,
I thought wtf is this, it tastes funny, and I don’t like it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Give ours some just to help them finish out
But not anywhere near like a feed lot.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya....finishing with corn is pretty common in a lot of places.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Using manure is a cheap way to fertilize crops.
It has pretty much every nutrient needed. Cow manure tends to be light on nitrogen though and needs to be supplimented. As well as acidic so needs to be limed every other year. On the other hand, chicken and hog manure tends to have very high N content which why it smells as bad as it does, from the high protein diet the animals are fed.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
so the whole thing about organic being bad for you because of the ecoli risk from the manure...
that would apply to all produce, right? or do the other non-organic chemicals kill the ecoli?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Organic food
isn’t put through the chemical bathing process that kills E.Coli and other bacteria, because the “organic” process doesn’t allow it.
I eat only a few things that are labeled organic, apples and tomatoes being the main ones, and only when I can’t get them in season here in Iowa, which is most of the winter.
I’m not hardcore enough yet to “eat seasonally”, and a fucking hate most root vegetables with a passion, so eating hydroponic “organic” tomatoes in the winter is a near necessity.
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thanks.
man, the things you learn on VEB. this is tough, there is so much info about organic, good and bad, its hard to know what to believe. and i’m smart. i can’t imagine the average person trying to figure this out.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
We grow our own. So I can't really speak as to what is on the market.
I feel that most of it comes down to washing your food correctly, preparing it correctly, and storing it correctly. We have a garden all of my life, we have used manure all of my life, I have drank raw milk all of my life. The only times that I have ever had what you could call food poisoning is when I have eaten elsewhere. Organic, to me anyway, is just a way to dress up food and charge more for it. Like a really expensive paint job on a Yugo, it’s still a fucking Yugo.This is not to say that we go out and douse our garden with insecticides. There times when it is necessary because of a particularly heavy insect year. But most of the time you can plant companion plants that work together, because some plants naturally repel insects. I wouldn’t be afraid of buying non-organic produce, just wash it good before you eat it.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
I feel that most of it comes down to washing your food correctly, preparing it correctly, and storing it correctly.
Needed repeating.
Be sure to look at who is funding the websites.
No matter the issue.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
the one i read was webmd.
that’s gotta be a neutral source, yes?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
you never know
i have seen a bunch of tv documentaries from germany though (they have an independent consumer protection organization that has been around forever) that said benefits are marginal, risks and prices are higher
they also did the reebok easytone, sketchers shapeups test – also pretty much bullshit
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Of course, in Europe, a lot of their food is far less chemical-treated than ours.
They don’t allow hybrid seeds, either. (I’m an Iowans who is a big fan of Henry Wallace and Dr. Bourlaug, so I’m not criticizing hybrids in any way.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not hybrids. Sorry, I'm working on a brief.
It’s GMO’s.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You say GMO over there and they'll shoot you.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Depending on how paranoid you are about conspiracy theories
WebMD could have published that to keep users from eating healthier food, thus causing them more health problems and increasing the demand for health care.
/doesn’t actually believe this
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
Do you think they're invovled in the Kennedy assination?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Can you prove to me that they aren't?
/puts on tin foil hat
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
True
Methodically killing off the entire Kennedy clan
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
You're next, Ian.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Is that when the New World Order takes over?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
that's what the buzz box tells me.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's largely a business thing
also, some of those chemicals are there to make sure you don’t die from something absurd
A study by the Center for Global Food Issues found that although organic foods make up about 1 percent of America’s diet, they also account for about 8 percent of confirmed E. coli cases.
RR gave you exactly what i was going to
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I don't eat organic food at all, but this is misleading.
Organic food is not available at the same rate as non-organic foods, and, in my experience, it tends to be most prevalent in terms of produce. So, why would you compare the percent of American’s overal diet with the percent of confirmed E. coli cases? That’s apples to firetrucks.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
idgaf about the numbers, just about pesticides not always being your enemy
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Think of your grocery store.
Where can you buy food that would give you E. coli in your grocery store? Generally, around the outer perimeter of the store, where fresh produce, dairy, eggs, and meat are kept relative cool and/or damp, right. Now, look at the rows and rows of food that fill the middle of the store. These generally processed foods stand a far, far lower risk of E. coli.
Now, look at your organic sales. Most of them are non- or low-processed foods. I’d bet the majority of organic food sales are fresh produce, dairy, eggs, and meat. This is supported by an admittedly cursory Google search and the Agricultural Marketing Resource Center:
Fruits and vegetables account for the largest percentage of organic food sales, 38 percent.
and this
Organic fruits and vegetables now represent 11.4 percent of all U.S. fruit and vegetable sales
Organic foods sales consist of a lot of fruits and vegetables. Organic fruits and vegetables make up a far larger share of U.S. fruit and vegetable sales than organic food makes up of the overall market. So, why wouldn’t there be a higher percentage of organic E. coli cases in regards to overall food market share?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Trader Joe's
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We don't have one here.
I buy most of my food at the farmer’s market and roadside stands. Of course, in Iowa, most grocery stores also have pretty fresh and good food. I’ve been living largely on sweet corn, watermelon, and musc melon for most of the last six weeks and enjoying every meal. (Breaks in between for some pork chops on the grill.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
There are no firework stands in Iowa because fireworks are illegal here.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds good to me!
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
eff E. coli
if you aren’t tough enough to get past a little E. coli, well that’s just natural selection at work
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
Organic isn't as important as
Fresh
Local
Knowledge of farming practices of the vendor
Farmer’s Market my friends. Farmer’s Market.
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by fourstick on Sep 2, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was about to say that this is where I buy most of my stuff.
I try and buy food from as close to my apartment as possible at the country’s largest farmer’s market.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
large farmers markets are tough to find in phx
i’m going to try it though
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Who needs a large one?
Find 2 or 3 small ones, get to know local growers, or even sign up for a local CSA. Most CSA’s will deliver stuff to your doorstep or have a local drop off for you each week.
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I believe a co-op of some sort...They have them up here.
A farmer will sell the produce to a group of x number of people before it’s even grown, then every week, you get your share of the produce.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i looked up some local CSAs...they all grow organic produce!
shit.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
lol....it's small scale though.
I wouldn’t have a problem with that…..fwiw, the plants I used to grow in my closet were organic.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Do you even understand what the "Organic" label means?
I wouldn’t buy organic produce from the supermarket. It’s a giant rip off. Even Whole Foods is a venerable robber baron when it comes to that stuff.
Organically grown produce from a CSA basically tells you that it’s grown sustainable without the use of pesticides that are required for mass production.
If you have any issues about the possible health risks from organic grown food, you should contact your local CSA. Most farmers are glad to show you their process or even have you out to their farm so you can take it in first hand. If you have kids, they’ll love this, and you get to show them where their food comes from.
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That's why I take my nephews hunting.
If you have kids, they’ll love this, and you get to show them where their food comes from.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Sep 2, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
All of the food grown in my garden is "organic"
and, unless you use chemical based fertilizers (like miracle gro, cheater) or pesticides (like that dusty shit you put on your tomato plants to keep the rabbits away instead of using, I don’t know, a FENCE) yours probably is too.
Organic produce grown in mass quantities is a problem, because you lose the irradiation and chemical washing necessary to keep large outbreaks of bacteria out of your food. If it’s grown locally and you know the grower, you can protect your self from this type of thing.
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awesome. thanks for the explanation
its hard when you’re reading books and articles that are all telling you different things.
my goal in life is to be healthy and leave the earth better than how i found it. i’m not trying to make a political statement or anything, i’m just trying to figure out how to do what’s best for me and the environment at the same time.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Best thing would be to start your own garden.
You can get a pound of produce for every cubic foot of ground space you plant per summer season. Can’t live much more sustainable than that really.
Start your own compost bin with your trimmings.
If you use herbs for cooking, plant the kinds you use in their own pot and set them outside, watering when necessary. In the winter, bring them into a warm sunny location (windowsill, salarium, I have an awesome sunroom I use at my house). Herbs are the most expensive thing to buy at the store and one of the easiest things to grow in abundance.
If you can’t plant a garden, either find a couple good options for farmer’s markets or join a local CSA that supports sustainable agriculture by growing organically. In other words: All cuttings and scraps are composted and re-used, and no outside fertilization or pest control chemicals are used.
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i have rosemary and basil plants and am currently attempting to grow tomatoes
but its arizona. my yard is a brick patio and the soil here is terrible. we are trying to grow some things that we can grow in pots, like tomatoes. we want to try bell peppers, too. some things are easier than others to grow in the desert
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I lol'd
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
cacti?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
For as hot as it gets there.
You might need to get a shade material. 30-50% and make a “greenhouse” of sorts. If you look on Farmtek.com they have them in kits.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I would think bell peppers
and any other kind of pepper would flourish down there. Hot and dry weather usually makes pepper plants produce a big yield — which is why peppers are such a mainstay in the Mexican and Latin American diets — easy and cheap to grow with big yields.
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what about dry organic foods?
sugar, flour, bread, etc.? have any opinions?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Waste of money
All that stuff is processed anyway, so you’re not really getting anything out of it by going organic. Food producers are just slapping the “organic” label on there to bump the price a couple of bucks.
Now, the organic stuff is probably grown in a more sustainable environment, but stuff like oats, wheat, and other whole grains are grown in a fairly sustainable fashion anyway.
Just stick to whole grain flour and bread, and Sugar in the Raw if you can. Tastes better and is better for you than the processed sugar.
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Community Supported Agriculture
Basically, you buy a “share” of a farm along with other members of your community. Kinda like a subscription to a produce delivery service.
The farmer knows about how much he can produce, and you buy your share to offset the costs of raising the food, developing the land, etc.
You get fresh, local produce grown sustainably — they get to make a living. It’s a nice trade.
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i'm probably going to do this now.
VEB is awesome sometimes.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
The ones up here have a waiting list......
a friend and I were going to split a share, and we’re still on the list over 2 years later.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'd go look at the farms before I'd join anything
Make sure you’re comfortable with the price and also make sure that the CSA you join is going to provide you with the produce you’ll need. The best CSA’s give you options as to what you want in what quanitity.
You will want to get started on this early in the year — most good CSA’s are out of shares by the middle of March in my neck of the woods.
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Is "local honey" for codeword for meth?
by Ghostrider520 on Sep 2, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
It’s helped mine tremendously as well. No more allergy shots for me, and my ragweed allergy is all but gone this summer even when the pollen counts are high.
My wife and I are actually thinking about starting up our own apiary since we have a ton of flower beds and gardens around our neighborhood and a pound of honey a week is like minting gold in your backyard.
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or just start our own VEB ranch
not only would it be a great way to keep prices down at the bar. but we could feed ourselves & not have to depend on grocery stores.
and by ranch i mean everything, animals, veggies, fruits, the works. not sure if that’s the right term but that’s all i can come up with
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
You mean a communal farm?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 3, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
are those the hippie farms?
because no, not like that at all. just a place that pretty much supplies the bar with everything it needs so it can charge less for better food than most restaurants. and if there’s products unused VEB’ers can buy them
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I feel like facebook has made high school reunions obsolete
I won’t be going to mine in a couple of years
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
ours was planned entirely on facebook
i’m going only because i left town right after high school and never came back. also, my friend who works for the mariners will be there and i need to talk to her about a job…
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
So was ours...and Facebook killed it.
We all got back in touch online instead of getting together a couple of months later.
heh....mariners, not marines
more like JD, not JAG
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
unless you stay in rear-d
you don’t want your ass to end in afganistan every other year
takes a tremendous toll on your family too
benefits are good but pay is shitty
i love the military and hate the military at the same time.
just think about it real well before you sign anything
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I assume you're not talking about the Seattle Mariners
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
d-dee...
not this
This:
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I never liked 95% of the people that I graduated with.....
Why would 10, or now almost 20 years change that?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
im only going to see a couple of people.
the other thing is, my whole family is still living there, so its really an excuse to see them
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
ya not giving a fuck about high skool means i'll never go back
i guess that’s not entirely true. if i was a success i’d probably go back just to rub it in everyones faces they were wrong about me.
it was bad enough that the funeral i had to go to last month was there. i had the shakes the entire time. i couldn’t dodge everyone but at least i dodged the principle & teachers. if i had to be around old classmates & everyone else that would be there i couldn’t do it
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
we'll slowly infiltrate that organization...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
It ended 3 weeks ago
They needed me to run a report, but I fell asleep at the clubhouse. Then I proceeded to talk shit about my manager behind their back to my colleagues
Then I retired from the job 2 weeks later
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Sep 2, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That was a Griffey reference...
The internship went great, met a lot of cool people… Hopefully I can find a job with them after I graduate/get married
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i got it & i rec'd it
everyone else should too
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
i said you should, i didn't command you to
big difference
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I like oatmeal with brown sugar.
What’s wrong with it?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Put some milk and brown sugar on it,
the real stuff….not the instant crap IHB is talking about.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i make some awesome granola with this
and coconut, slivered almonds, and dried fruit nom nom nom
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Agreed
I don’t use coconut (I hate the stuff) but almonds, black walnuts (I have a good local source), with cinnamon, brown sugar, ginger, and honey.
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we should trade recipes, fourstick
/there’s one sentence i never thought i’d say
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Easy to replicate mine...
For every 3 cups of oats, you use 3 tablespoons of brown sugar, 2 tablespoons of cinnamon, 2 tablespoons of ginger, and a total of one cup of nuts. Then toss it with a blend of a half cup of honey (raw is better since it’s stickier) and 3 tablespoons of vegetable oil that’s been heated and stirred smooth.
You can adjust the amount and kind of nuts you use, but the spices need to stay constant…
Bake at 300 degrees stirring every 10 minutes for at least 40 minutes until the oats start to brown. I toss the dried fruit (mostly raisins) in right away and then pack it down so I get some decent sized chunks.
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Can you skip the vegetable oil or substitute?
by Ghostrider520 on Sep 2, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You can skip it but it's hard to smooth out the honey and you'll have problems getting it to coat properly.
You’re using 3 whole tablespoons for around 20 servings of granola, and the saturated fats will help your body digest the nutrients found in the cinnamon, fruit, and oats better.
Olive oil adds are really nasty aftertaste when roasted like this, and canola oil will give you a nutty/corn flavor. Peanut oil would be a good substitute though.
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Good massage oil, too...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Why wouldn't you want to leave the place happy?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
You are in California, after all.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm sorry but strawberries & cream is one of [insert preferred diety]'s gifts to the world
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i prefer peaches & cream
really hope someone gets this
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Yes.
Best way to make oatmeal is to cook a half cup with a cup of skim milk, then toss it with some honey, raw cane sugar, and cinnamon and top it with a dab of Greek Yogurt and your preferred breakfast fruit — I like whatever is in season, but mostly blueberries or peaches.
All the essential carbs, fats, and protein that you need for breakfast in one bowl, and takes less than 10 minutes.
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I forgot Lucky Charms too!
I’d put them in the good tier, though. I can get down with Raisin Bran. Not quite good tier, but I wouldn’t put it in the shit tier either.
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
the truth is, almost every cereal, even the bad ones, is still really really good.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
yes, that was pretty good. and capn crunch with berries, too.
man cereal is delicious
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i hate cereal
like you don’t even know
the only one i’ll eat is chocolate chex with chocolate milk. and i haven’t had that in months
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Oh...you go to hell....FF are the bomb
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm like the only person I know that doesn't like Frosted Flakes
So I’ll concede that one to everyone else
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
the two of you are dead to me.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Frosted Flakes is like the Milwaukee's Best of cereal.
by Ghostrider520 on Sep 2, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
and now you go and insult the Beast.
GOOD DAY SIR!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Nah
Because most people actually like Frosted Flakes. I don’t know anyone who actually likes Beast, they just drink it because it’s like $1.79 for a 30-pack
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
you can tap a keg of beast with a bud light tapper...
just sayin
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 2, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
traded to San Diego
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'd buy out the shelves of these
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Remember those single-serving size paks?
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe the official term for these
was “Aaron Miles serving”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I have my Chris Carpenter 2006 World Series Champions Wheaties box in my office.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 2, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
....I have it right here in the basement.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I gotta throw Raisin Nut Bran into my own personal God tier
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 2, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
he took a day off
does that make him king?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
What up shitlords
Looks like you did a plenty fine job derailing this thread on your own
I had class from 10:00 – 2:00 today, soooooooooo
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you're in the dungeon now
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
What level in the "shitrank" structure does shitlord fall?
by Ghostrider520 on Sep 2, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The highest honor you can bestow in the "shitrank" structure
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Also, can anybody summarize the organic food subthread?
I’m sort of interested, but don’t want to read all of that…
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
"Organic food is good
No wait, it’s not good.
Eh, find out for yourself, there’s alot of contradictory information out there."
That about sums it up.
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
there's shit involved.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
god tier:
organic food
granola
shit tier:
organic food
by DanUpBaby on Sep 2, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Oh...and we discussed breakfast cereals, and tiers associated with said breakfast items.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
organic can be good if locally grown, and you can make sure that your farmer uses appropriate methods so as to prevent spread of bacteria
organic food you buy in the grocery store is a scam because it is expensive and carries a larger risk of ecoli or other diseases than non-organic food, because the organic process can’t use chemicals that prevent disease.
in the end your best bet is to get locally grown produce, organic or not.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
this dude is the shit lord....
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
P.J. Walters
Eight strikeouts through four, 70 pitches, but Memphis is down, 1-0.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
it's strauss, take it as you will
JoeStrauss
Hearing Cardinals security at Defcom 4 this weekend. Apparently number of friends/hangers-on allowed on field cut to 375. 10 minutes ago via web
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
I wonder if the Defcom system is at all related to the DEFCON system?
Defcom sounds like a shorter version of Defjam Comedy.
by Ghostrider520 on Sep 2, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
is this like pre-game?
i hope someone calls a players only meeting and tells people to pull their damn heads out of their tight asses
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I would think the time for that was before they fell 8 games out of the division
and 5 games out of the WC.
by Ghostrider520 on Sep 2, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
well this is the first off day since that happened
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
some more of the last hour
Fox_Sports_MW: Where things went wrong for the #STLCards. http://bit.ly/cGQuKr What do you think is the biggest reason for the struggles? #STL
JoeStrauss: @Fox_Sports_MW Does that mean the balloon party’s off? about 1 hour ago via web in reply to Fox_Sports_MW
JoeStrauss: Just got accused of being a Cards homer at STLtoday.com. I’m gonna respond as soon as I finish polishing the wheels on BDJ’s Benz. about 1 hour ago via web
Midwest Fox_Sports_MW: New on FOXSportsMidwest.com, @BJRains writes the Cardinals have nobody to blame but themselves for recent collapse: http://bit.ly/cJDiiw 38 minutes ago via web
Fox_Sports_MW: @JoeStrauss You love it when it’s bad! When they’re good there’s nothin to talk about. Trying reverse psycholgy-see ’27 Yanks blog from May 23 minutes ago via Echofon in reply to JoeStrauss
JoeStrauss: @Fox_Sports_MW My ratings the same good of bad, big guy. Rightsholder scrambling now for late chapter: When #happytalk Doesn’t Get It Done. 19 minutes ago via web in reply to Fox_Sports_MW
Fox_Sports_MW: @JoeStrauss All fun and games here, diablo! Big fun this weekend. 13 minutes ago via Echofon
JohnMarecek: @JoeStrauss Thought maybe someone saw u carrying Alberts bags for him again. :) #HonkinLikeARightsHolderForNow #duck 11 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to JoeStrauss
JoeStrauss: @JohnMarecek That was only on the back nine! You know better. 8 minutes ago via web in reply to JohnMarecek
JoeStrauss: Hearing Cardinals security at Defcom 4 this weekend. Apparently number of friends/hangers-on allowed on field cut to 375. 10 minutes ago via web
JoeStrauss: Just heard KMOX employees to undergo Cardinals “sensitivity training” before next season. What does that mean? #HonkinLikeaRightsholder 5 minutes ago via web
moar unicorns….
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Hope is not a plan.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Iwas thinkuing of getting this for my niece's birthday.....
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ive never ever seen a stripper that clothed on a pole
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 2, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
And this is not a parody?
If not, I’d say it’s the most popular toy for young girls in Bangkok.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't believe it is...
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i don't see why not, mattyfrommo's sister had that growing & she turned out just fine
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
what? she's a fine upstanding citizen
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I have given up on this 2010 team (I am revolutionary)
ESPN quoted Geoff Blum as saying “they didn’t seem outh there to beat us, which is surprising.” (or someting along those lines.). It has been a depressing season peppered with tortuous moments of hopeful brilliance. I detest this season. That being said… I like this team. Replace Miles, Lopez (he has been miserable to watch this year, even with being forced to play 3B) and feliz with a competent 4th infielder, Sign Westbrook (or any other competent 4th starter), and i think that 2011 could be an exciting season.
1B: Prince Albert
2B: Skip/anyone against lefties
SS: Boog
3B: Mr. Freese (“Ice to meet you!”)
C: YaMo be there
LF:Bowling Ball Head
CF: Cheesemus
RF: Jay/Craig/Joe Bombs
Rotation: Waino, Carp, Garcia, Westy, Supp (just kidding)
Bench: Competent 4th infielder, Joe Bombs, Craig/Jay…
I like the core of our bullpen…
That team excites me. About as much as they did this past April (sigh)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
If LaRussa
remains to push for his Proven Veterans™, then 2011 will look a lot like 2010.
Maybe worse since Carp is starting to show his age.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony Drama needs to end asap
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Most of the "proven veterans" you talk about won't be under contract for next year.
And I don’t see Mo offering contracts to any of them unless he’s totally lost his mind.
At the very least, we’ll have a fresh batch of stale players.
by Ghostrider520 on Sep 2, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Proven Veterans™
Bring back:
Willie McGee
Mark McGwire (as per discussed in Spring Training)
John Mabry.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
john mabry is awesome. he would really add to this team
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
As long as he draws a breath
Miguel Cairo is a threat to be a Cardinal again.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as...
Those proven vets are not Feliz or Felipe (for some reason I DESPISE Felipe), or Supp. I’m ok. I actually don’t mind Miles as much, i like gritty players who look like teddy bears i guess, but he should go too.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Oh, but
there are plenty of other Proven Veterans™ LaRussa would push to acquire.
The supply of Proven Veterans™ is limitless, and LaRussa’s fevered imagination to switch ’em in and out, mixing and matching, is boundless.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Just want to say
I love your posts. Partly because I’m in your choir much of the time, but that’s not the only reason.
The organization definitely shows a tendency to be driven too strongly by sentimentality. It’s troubling enough when you just look at this year, but it is frightening when you look beyond next year, where very tough decisions will surely need to be made.
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 2, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The smart organization
would seek to trade Pujols before he begins his inevitable decline — I know everyone in their hearts thinks it’ll always be 2001-2010, but we know in our heads that’s not the case.
Imagine the haul we could get from a prospect-rich team such as the Red Sox. I’m thinking the kind of haul Cleveland got from Montreal in the Bartolo Colon deal.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert currently has a full NTC.
I believe he has played enough games this year to qualify as 10/5.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Well, then
better open the damn vault.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
You spelled "DeWallet" wrong
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
If Cards Talk had gone with DeVault instead of DeWallet I might not have minded so much.
Much more euphonious.
by DanUpBaby on Sep 2, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What he said was
“We’re in a good place right now,” Astros shortstop Geoff Blum said. “We came off the road playing good ball and faced a Cardinals team that hasn’t been playing extremely well against sub-.500 teams and we know that. Their backs are against the wall, not ours. And it didn’t look like they wanted to come out and beat us at all.”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Gracias
I don’t research my posts. ESPN is the end all be all. I follow Bermanetrics, which has “Back Back Back Percentage” and “Stumblin/Fumblin Ratio”, and attempts to annoy people.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Sep 2, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No problem
I pulled the quote from the cardinals official site. It’s under the headline about them losing five straight
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
this thread needs moar proveyness
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm going to try for "Proven Veteran" of VEB
My posts will be weak, meaningless and full of spelling errors. Don’t worry though, they will be full of grit!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
So, how will that be different from the rest of us?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
not enough gif
it’s like the grit of VEB
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
???
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
do you feel grittier now
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it won't wash off.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
one more....I feel like cody
see more Señor Gif
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you're not cody?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
shhh.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
apparently.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I like bowling
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
so does Vader
but these two need to learn how to play nice
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Hopefully...
every so often, danup will double switch me as editor, and make the red baron an author. sorry vivaelpujols, you’re record of enlightened, well-learned and insightful posts cannot compare to my ability to write run-on sentences!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Go, Memphis!
Descalso drives in the tying run, 2-2 in the bottom of the 8th.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
Oops --
Actually, Descalso knocked in Memphis’ first run, and Tyler Greene scored the tying run on a balk.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
tying run scores on balk on fake to 3rd look to 1st
Memphis balked earlier…
by baked mcbride on Sep 2, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's Rob Davidson
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
I want to chew nails right now.
Thanks for that.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
3-2 Memphis.
This weekend’s games in Des Moines are going to be something else.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
Warning: Incredibly OT
In the late 90s/early 2000s, there was this cheese cracker snack where each cracker looked like a window. The consistency was like cheetos, but I know it wasn’t a cheetos thing. I can’r remember the name of it, all I know was that if you had it in your school lunch you could trade for anything you wanted.
Can anyone help me out?
….Don’t judge me….I think about odd things when there’s no good cardinals baseball being played (except for Memphis).
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
I know what you're talking about, but can't think of the name of it
I do believe it was a cheetos product though. Wasn’t it like “Chester’s Checkers” or something like that?
Padres' RFL for GG!
Winnar!
A site says they were a grid shape.
Cheetos Cheezy Crackers 1995-1998
For you:
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Man
That was driving me absolutely crazy
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
I meant to type checkers, not crackers.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
In response to myself
Wasn’t it like "Chester’s Checkers" or something like that?
There’s like, too many “likes” in that sentence. My fiance is to blame. She and her family say “like” and “you know?” way too much. I noticed it years ago, and disliked it. Then my family pointed out that I had adopted the same habit. I hadn’t realized that I’d picked up the habit. Now I catch myself saying it all the time, and I curse myself every time I do it.
anyone else have something similar happen to them?
Padres' RFL for GG!
oh yeah, its natural
my bf has a really annoying fake laugh and now i do it. it sucks.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
heh heh heh
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I took a linguistics class this summer
That dealt with the history of English and the evolution throughout the years. We also dealt with changes happening right now, and the whole “like, you know,” is a thing that is being studied right now as a major change.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
John Kinney gets
the save as Memphis wins, and now it’s on to Des Moines to take the playoff spot away from the Iowa Cubs.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
the craigen!!
memphisredbirds
Allen Craig gets the job done with a sac fly to left, Birds up 3-2 in the 8th. Josh Kinney warming up in the pen. 10 minutes ago via web
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
maybe we should send Pujols down to help out...
I think he still has options and he’d get to play with a team that’s actually playing for something.
Padres' RFL for GG!
Actually
if we sent all the Cardinals to Memphis, and all the Redbirds to St. Louis — including managers — we just might have a shot at the wild card.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
it's so crazy is just might work
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Excitement got
the best of me.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i got busy
and was going to post a gameday link. i suck.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This is how bad things have gotten
Last night I had a nightmare that Pujols and another starter (possibly Yadi) were traded to the Giants for Ben Francisco (somehow) and some other crappy players.
Terrifying, truly.
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
And by "crappy"
surely you mean players brimming with GRIT.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Sep 2, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ben Francsico Giants
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Sep 2, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Albert got player of the month
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and the Cards are currently working to earn the
“Biggest Flop of the Decade” award.
Padres' RFL for GG!
You gonna catch a game?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i wish
no game today, wedding rehearsal tomorrow, actual wedding on saturday, fly home on sunday
if they were still home on monday, i would have stuck around since it’s labor day, but alas
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Sounds like love
How did she know the Cards were gonna tank so you wouldn’t be missing anything?
Is she a witch? Did she hex the Cardinals? Is this all her fault?
no you were thinking of my sister
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
and man, i am cutting it close
flight arrives at 9:55, enterprise closes at 10:30
last time i did this (christmas), flights were delayed and it was a huge ordeal getting someone to take a debit card
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Um... good luck?
That doesn’t sound possible at Lambert.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
well, i won't be checking any bags
if it looks like it’s gonna be running close, i will call them and beg for mercy. but i can’t imagine it’ll take, say, an hour to get from the plane to enterprise
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
I can't imagine a plane will land on time at Lambert.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Of course
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
never had many?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
heh.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
What do you guys think about me doing a VEB "Location project?"
Just a fanpost with everyone giving their zip codes, so we can see where the posters on this site are located?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
there is a thing
i saw on another board, where it’s a google map collaboration and everyone can put a little marker for where they are. it’s pretty cool. requires a gmail account, though
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
We could do that
I was thinking that I could just manually put them in
TurfShowTimes did this
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
mostly midwest, we are
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not giving you my zip code you mofo
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Sep 2, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm many things but i'm not flim
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I picture a bunch of red dots around St. Louis...
a few in Iowa, a few in Chicago and NYC, and 2 in England.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
at least one in Thailand and another in Indonesia, I think.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
and (at least) one in Korea
I assume South Korea, but it would be more awesome if he were in North Korea
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
I like your new sig.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
There will be a few in the Rockies as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
jd and Southern Redbird would be down south.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
West Coast mothafuckas
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I knew you WCBW.
You disguise it well though.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Aerovator has an unsavory relationship with Colby................
I would know………… I live in California!!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i think there's a few of us near Memphis too
Colby: "There's been a whole lot of riff-raff going on"
i can't believe i was left out again
everyone hates the east siders i guess
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
So, if the 2010 Cardinals are like the 2003 version
Does that mean 2011 will be like 2004? If so, I can live with the current slump, knowing that 2011 will turn out like 2004 (well, except, hopefully this time the World Series won’t be canceled).
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 2, 2010 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm surprised I came back to baseball
after the strike of 2004 wiped out the WS
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
Right after our amazing come-from-behind NLCS win too!
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
one of the many reason why i'll never forgive good Old Bud
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
I could live with Jim Edmonds coming back...
..for a .301/.418/.643 season
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
I could live Colby doing that.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd need a over-sized beach towel if that happened.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
same umps are crewing this series as the last time in Cinci.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
if you can believe this guy
JoeStrauss
My information is that same umpiring crew (Jeff Kellogg) will work this weekend’s Reds series as handled scrum in Cincinnati. Good move. 11 minutes ago via web
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
today is allegedly Amaury Marti Cazana's birthday.
if you see any ripples in time-space, that’s why.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
tomtom navigation with darth vader and yoda
disregard the article, watch the videos in it
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
So, did anyone else notice
that Matt Pagnozzi is having himself a career year down in Memphis?
I don’t understand why the team wouldn’t want to keep him down there so he can enjoy that playoff run for the Redbirds.
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
LOL...lawsuits against athletes are funny, especially this one
don’t miss the second page….Nolan Ryan has allegedly thrown 100 mph fastballs at this guys head, and Mark Cuban allegedly stole his credit cards and bought the Rangers with the money.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Wait, are you really going to ask your Mariners friend about a job?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
heh yeah probably
but truthfully, i just bought a house here so i dont know if i would really just up and move to seattle
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Not even to work for a MLB team?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i would definitely take an interview
and then see where it goes.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
you shouldn't have any problem selling
a house quickly, in this market, in Arizona.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i put a lot of money into it, too.
it is certainly worth more now than it was when i bought it 6 mos ago, but i have certainly paid almost no principal on that loan
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I'm in the same boat...
I’ll have owned for a year in October.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
well we did the smart thing, buying when the market was bad.
in a couple of years decades, we will be able to pat ourselves on the back for such a fine investment.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I fricking hope so......
I’m about to gut and remodel this place…hopefully be done in 2-3 months….while I’m living in it. Should be fun.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
oh it is RR.
I’m in the middle of that myself. It’s a blast when you can’t get the electrician to come back for a month and you sit on your hands waiting.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
My dad and I have done this
several times before….we don’t need no sticking electrician.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I can do water and gas
but I don’t fuck with electricity. If you’ve got a brain at all water and gas are easy, I always figure that I can’t burn the house down if I do water and gas, they manifest themselves quickly if there’s a problem, but electricity can blind-side you.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
My wiring is relatively new...
and I’m only moving one wall with an outlet. It will be pretty simple, just moving an outlet. I have to run one gas line, and replumb the washer.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That doesn't sound too bad.
We’ve got a 100 yr old farmhouse and are pretty much redoing a big chunk of it. Kitchen and bathroom floors, electric, and turning the side porch into a mud room and re-decking the front porch. We did the roof last year and ran new water lines. Plus we’re painting everything.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
JoeStrauss: It’s fairly well-known that @BJRains also goes by Mr.MOTO. #MasterOfTheObvious
JoeStrauss: I speak in reference to @BJRains’ handicapping skills, nothing more or less. #MrMOTO
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
I literally have no idea what this is referencing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
MasterOfTheObvious
BJ Rains is always the last to tweet the most obvious things
i call him Captain Obvious
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
i don't feel comfortable with bj rains being captain of anything
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 2, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i don't feel comfortable with that being his real name
Fire John Mozeliak up a nice steak, or stake ( haven't decided)
rec
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
194 PA
.247 .320 .408
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
436 K's in 400 AB's.
Yes, only Rick Ankiel can strike out more than the comes to the plate.
All were on breaking balls and changeups away too. Funny.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Does anybody happen to know if Costa Rica in early June is too rainy for a honeymoon?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
http://www.govisitcostarica.com/travelInfo/climate.asp
There is no real summer or winter in Costa Rica and the rainy season here lasts from May to November, with the months of December through April having little to no rain and September and October being the heaviest rain period. While the average rainfall in the country is around 100 inches, some mountainous areas get as much as 25 feet of rainfall on a yearly basis. It is also important to keep in mind that Costa Rica’s Caribbean coast is rather unique and has its own microclimate. With tradewinds keeping the weather hot and humid most of the year, there is no real dry season out here and it rains very often.
Oh yeah, I hit a lot of bombs. Don’t kid yourself.
That sounds like it may be a bit too rainy
That’s a bummer. I was excited about Costa Rica… beaches and rainforests! Volcanoes!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you know what that sounds like to me
good food. like, really good food. water, sun, volcanic soil.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
When I retire, I'm going to winter in Costa Rica.
That sounds like my kinda place.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 2, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
wait so
you’re worrying about rain in a honeymoon, not a wedding?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
IT'S LIKE RAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNN ON YOUR WEDDING DAY
But yeah? The wedding’s all indoors and shit
The fiancee’s worried about rain ruining her sunbathing time. Which is also known as mysterui’s nap time.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i'm just thinking... honeymoon....
get a really good hotel room.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
See, I don't really want to use the honeymoon solely for those purposes... I actually think it's more romantic to use it as our first REAL vacation together
Just the two of us, exploring rainforests, walking on a beach
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
in which case
being that it’s Costa Rica
you might want to be comfortable with the whole “rain” part of rainforests
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
heh
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That's a ridiculous notion
I just want the cool parts of a rainforest without the shitty parts!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you gonna do one of those rope things?
am multitasking and forgot the term…
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
a big bathroom, a kitchen, a flat screen w/ all the channels, and a strong bed is all you need
not that i would have any personal experience of course, that’s just what i’ve been told
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
You need to talk to paulspike.....
that’s his area, IIRC.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah, he lives in Guatemala I believe...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm watching Fast Times at Richmonte High right now
Brad (Judge Reinhold) looks exactly like David Freese:
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/41/419404.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/cb20090224001928/uncyclopedia/images/9/90/JudgeReinhold.jpg
Fire Tony La Russa
A spin around the SBN fan confidence polls-
Cubs – 28
Pirates – 46 (really? wow.)
Mariners – 29
Astros – 72 (ok, c’mon)
Indians – 43
Nationals – 45
Diamondbacks – 57
Royals – 48
Cardinals – 25
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
its results vs. expectations
cards expected to win 95… done opposite therefore their ranking… astros are on cloud 9 as they are well exceeding 6th place during their streak
Yeah, I know
I’ve written on the same myself. I was just amused that the Cards were the worst on the list.
And seriously, 72 for the Astros? I know they’ve been on a bit of a streak lately, but sheez.
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
by The Continental on Sep 2, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
how the hell are the nats at 45?
the best thing to happen to that franchise’s elbow just exploded all over the infield
How did you get specific numbers?
I’ve only seen the small, vague line. Am I using the wrong browser? Am I blind?
They're on each of the regional SBN sites.
They might have them rounded up together somewhere, I don’t know.
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
by The Continental on Sep 2, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
those Astros fans are quite easily pleased
but then again, their team just made some decent moves so maybe they are coming out of depression. as for the Pirates fans, huh.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So is RamsHeard going to tweet about every single play in every game?
Nothing else in the SBN StL twit box stands a chance.
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
myth of dj tools
http://www.futureredbirds.net/2010/09/02/daryl-jones-downfall/
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this is the most depressing
What at times has been seen as a toolsy, athletic, above-average corner outfielder, is starting to look like an average fourth who doesn’t have the outfield instincts to stay at center, the arm for right, or the power for left.
wow not much hope then
Aaron Miles...
doesn’t have the range for short, the arm for third, or the bat for anywhere, yet he’s our guy. Now Pagnozzi is up. Can’t wait til he starts over Anderson.
Fire La Russa!
While all of this may be true of Miles
At least he ahs the whole “surfboard simulator” thing going for him
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
blah
I wish there was an edit button for posts….damn spelling mistakes.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 2, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
it's kind of crazy.
there are a couple of other sites with the same, but I think they’re subscriber content
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Sometimes when a guy has a breakout year
It’s best to cut bait with him at that time. See Reyes, Anthony or (in the future) Kozma, Pete.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
5 games behind the Phils for the wild card
too bad they are winning like every game they play right now
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 2, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions
wow... im at a loss of words right now
umm my friend and I were in a friendly discussion over AL Cy Young and he has David Price and CC Sabathia on his team… after telling him nicely of course that Yadier Molina was in fact not a good starting catcher on his fantasy team even before we knew he was gonna do this bad, he told me….
that Sabathia and Price are the two best pitchers in the game and that he would and i quote “blow me” if price and sabathia didn’t finish 1-2… interesting…. i argued hernandez was better than both and he dismissed cause 10-10 wasn’t even in the discussion (sigh…) oh well
did anybody else know sabathia has had 6+ runs of run support in FIFTEEN FUCKING GAMES… seriously Jeff Suppan could win 20 with that support no pun intended
Sounds like your friend wants to blow you.
by spants on Sep 3, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
you think he's making absurd claims because really that's all he wants to do to him
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
i absolutely hate when i can't get here during the day
and then it takes me forever to catch up & the thread is dead. f me it took almost two f’ing hours to read this
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
just travel ahead into the future
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2010 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions
i know here i can get a DeLorean, all i need is the flux capacitor
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
Johnson City headed to the Appalachian League finals
One big inning pretty much punched the ticket to the Appalachian League Finals for Tyler Tartamella and Johnson City on Thursday.
Tartamella homered and doubled to plate three in the Cardinals’ 10-run second inning en route to a two-game semifinals sweep with a 20-2 rout of the Burlington Royals.
Tartamella said the team was excited by their effort thus far, but said the Cardinals, who will face the 2009 runner-up Elizabethton Twins on Friday in Game 1 of the Appy League Championship Series, have more work ahead of them.
“It’s a big accomplishment for us, but we’re still looking forward to the upcoming series,” he said. “Hopefully we can continue with the offense and pitching in this upcoming series.”
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
The guys on the farm are doing pretty well.
And that’s all I’m gonna say about that.
You're Walgreen's sunglasses, Aaron Miles, you son of a bitch.
by The Continental on Sep 3, 2010 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions
they lost their mojo! i wonder who's fault that is?
All I've got is a broken heart, memories & dreams that I can't drink away
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