(don't) wait till next year
by tom s. on Aug 7, 2010 1:31 PM EDT
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when considering spinal tap drummers, defense against the dark arts teachers, and cardinal third basemen, it seems almost cruel to propose another person for their ranks when doom seems to follow such a designation. a mere list of ailing cardinal third basemen over the last four years serves to chronicle the misfortune of those taking the position – scott rolen, troy glaus, david freese, joe mather, joe thurston (if whatever afflicted him was an ailment), mark derosa, and david freese (again).
nevertheless, somebody has to stand there and field the position. most suggested options for this year do not seem particularly appealing, by reason of cost and duration of contract (aramis ramirez), inability to field the position (hank blalock), or just sheer ineptitude (aaron miles).
despite recent andy laroche rumors, I find it hard to believe that an infielder making $450K whose name does not rhyme with "barren styles" makes his way very far in the waiver process. even for a team with a solid 3B, laroche could be an interesting utility man down the stretch. he would also be a decent trade chip in the offseason if he finishes on a high note, given that he has three years of club control left. If nothing else, another team might lay claim to him just to keep the cardinals from doing so. i have not heard a plausible theory for why he would make it through waivers to the cardinals.
it looks like internal options are the way to go this year. danup gave us a very good rundown of the internal options for this year yesterday – lopez as prime choice, and dabblings with mather, craig, and tyler greene as backup options. I’d throw gotay in as a plausible name in that mix.
it seems like some mix of the above names is both the best and most plausible option for august and september; results on the field – fleeting as they will be in their small sample sizes – will likely determine who sticks at third and who stays on the bench or at memphis.
instead, i’d like to talk a little about the wrench thrown in the delicate machinery that is the cardinals’ near future by freese’s recent injury. i shared with you my mantra last week – that no cardinal pitcher is healed until he makes three solid appearances with the major league club. i call that rule the mulder rule, and it was recently spectacularly vindicated by a crap rehab performance by kyle lohse. closely related is another injury rule: if a player misses a month or more of time in two consecutive seasons for injuries to the same body part, one should not expect them to return and be effective. confusingly, this second rule is also called the mulder rule. the second mulder rule is itself subject to the carpenter exception, which goes like this: chris carpenter does not give a (fig) about your rules.
that was a terribly long way to say I think it would be wise not to assume that david freese will be healthy or effective next year. [i had prepared this before azru posted the dire outcome of freese's surgery, but i think the lesson holds: freese is a bonus for next season, if he makes it.] danup commended mo’s contract with lopez this year as the stellar deal that it was. the next obvious step would be to get lopez back for 2011. you won’t catch him for $1M again, but the free agent market for infielders has been terrible the past few years, from the player’s perspective. the market is really awful next year for buyers (pedro feliz, bill hall, melvin mora), with just terrible names in the market. i would think a little stability would be attractive to felipe, who had just glowing things to say about st. louis this spring. 2y/$6m seems like a decent offer to be a super utility player, money scarcely worse than solid starters like orlando hudson command. as long as our major in-house 2B options are left-handers like schumaker and descalso, it would be trusting a lot in tyler greene not to take some steps to make sure we have some infield depth from the right side.
i would not want to roll into the 2011 season with just lopez and the not-very-mended body of david freese capable of taking up space at third base. it probably makes sense to start getting to know the name matt carpenter. carpenter was taken in last year’s draft as an older draftee and has quickly gained an age-appropriate berth with springfield. although he hasn’t been in AA very long, the club should probably promote him to memphis soon, so that he could plausibly be ready to see action sometime next season.
i do agree with azru that he should not see the majors this year, but i think that with some exposure to memphis this year and maybe some winter leagues time, he should go to spring training with a serious chance at the 3B job, either in the spring or later in the season.
t’other carp is not an all-star, but he looks like a solid player. his defense is generally well-liked at 3B by observers. TZR, for all its questionable accuracy, wants to take his defense home and make sweet, sweet love to it - he amassed a +/- value of +16 runs in 163 chances across three levels last year. sadly, minor league splits has not done its midseason defensive update. he could be as good or better on defense than freese.
he doesn’t profile as a huge power hitter, currently sporting a .185 ISO at springfield. after walking at a prodigious rate in palm beach, he's returned to earth a bit at springfield matching a .329 average with a .421 OBP. with a .935 OPS at springfield, there's not a strong argument that a guy who will be 25 in the offseason needs more seasoning at AA; a memphis promotion would be aggressive, but not crazy. in 2011, if he handles memphis well, he could be a very nice high-average, high-OBP player who fits in a #2 role. of all the internal options for the cardinals, i’d say he might be the most likely to take on a starting role at 3B next year.
apropos of nothing, the fun baseball fact of the day: the padres have less money committed to existing contracts in 2011 than the yankees have tied up in squiring Mrs. AJ Burnett in limousines to her equestrian lessons -- $1.1M.
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ps matt carpenter's MLE OPS (.696) is basically the same as andy laroche's ZIPS projected OPS for the rest of the season (.699).
and matt carpenter is probably a better fielder.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
Does he have any hidden injury
history we should be aware of before the curse of third base rears it’s ugly head?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
alex cora was released by the mets
don’t anybody say it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
fwiw (not much)
aaron miles 2010 value: 0.2 WAR
alex cora: -0.4 WAR
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
PA totals:
Cora: 185
Miles: 87
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 7, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
probably illegal,but
can a player, aka the roach, be optioned to the minor s and then traded w/o going through the waiver process?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
we even heard it here first
oh the heady days of VEB
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he would still be on the 40 man
which I believe is still subject to the trade deadline.
Miles, in at third for his defense
they are working on it...
1st and 2nd with one out…
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
thom brennaman is absolutely insufferable
there are some terrible play-by-play guys in this league, but his grandiose presentation of every. fucking. statement. just kills me, i have never wanted to hear len and bob so bad in my life
Indeed.
However, he will be afforded his pomposity for one thing he shouted upon ball meeting bat of Jim Edmonds one crisp October afternoon:
“And we are going to Game 7 of the National League Championship Series!”
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 7, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he's the best for big moments (and Pujols gives St. Louis the lead!)
But ouside of that he’s absolutely useless and obnoxious
Marty Brennamen is good for telling cubs fans what’s up
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 7, 2010 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He seems to only talk about RBI and "wins."
It’s really annoying.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 7, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
This really made me laugh and is an excellent rule...
no cardinal pitcher is healed until he makes three solid appearances with the major league club. i call that rule the mulder rule, and it was recently spectacularly vindicated by a crap rehab performance by kyle lohse. closely related is another injury rule: if a player misses a month or more of time in two consecutive seasons for injuries to the same body part, one should not expect them to return and be effective. confusingly, this second rule is also called the mulder rule. the second mulder rule is itself subject to the carpenter exception, which goes like this: chris carpenter does not give a (fig) about your rules.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
CDGAFAYMR
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Chris Carpenter
IP 164.0
League leaders are Halladay (178.0) and Hernandez (174.1)
(if I’m reading this right)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Where's A.D.A.M.?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 7, 2010 2:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
who's 2nd?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
carp is 4th in the bigs.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
he was leader last year at 233
this year it’s 169.1
I think those guys are 1,2,3 but I can’t find where the current rankings are.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that was excellent
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this the totality of our injury situation?
Ottavino, Freese and Penny are out for the year
Lohse and Motte are likely out for all or most of the year
Skip has an ouchie
Rasmus has a hamstring problem but has been better lately
TGreene is out for a couple weeks
Fire La Russa!
Jason LaRue is also tragically hairless.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Also...
LaRue apparently lacks the ability to field his position for more than an inning or two at a time.
this is not a new injury.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Get me Brian F. Anderson for crying out loud.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 7, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He's the one.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on Aug 7, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
colby rasmus has a nasty case of alabama mushmouth.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
it stops him from communicating in center field.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
hitsokayguysahgahtthisonehere.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Aug 7, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
except he forgets to open his mouth.
only Boog can translate, it seems.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Albert's elbow may explode any second now.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
do we need the south park gif?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I would say thats about right with the exception of Motte
I know the FO has been overly optimistic all year regarding players returning from injury, but from what I have read Mottes injury isnt that serious. Apparently, he had been pitching with the sore shoulder all year. I think Tony just wore him down a bit and they wanted to get him a couple weeks off to rest up for down the stretch. I think he will be back once his DL stint is up.
I would say the same for Greene. He was playing with the wrist but wanted to go on the DL to avoid AAA.
I woukd be surprised to see Penny back, but it would be nice if he came back with a couple weeks left and we could put him in the pen. I kind of hope Lohse doesnt come back but I think he will. I would prefer they just shut him down for the season.
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 2:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No I.think he just got sent back down.
We may see him again soon unfortunately. On thursday he had 5 hits, a grand slam and 5 rbis
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 2:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
isn't this
how he made the roster in the first place?
by chuckb on Aug 7, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and 4 hits last night
Goodbye again salas.
by rumors on Aug 7, 2010 2:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is Memphis in their playoff race?
Maybe they will convince tony they need Stav. I dont think Salas will go down with Motte out. I hope to god Stav doesnt come up for Craig.
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 2:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
salas isn't going anywhere until motte gets back
Well see Stavinoha soon, but more than likely it will be after the call up.
Miles, in at third for his defense
Volquez has been lucky to only have given up one so far...
The good thing is that Dusty is leaving him in.too long to start the 6th here…..
Ramirez leadoff single, if the cubs are gonna do it they need to now.
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 2:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No I never got it
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Holy shit, James Shield get SHELLED today....
to the tune of 6 HRs in 4 innings…
'Hold my stones!'
Fire Tony LaRussa
More like James Shelleds, amirite?!
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
17-11 final
Toronto hits 8 HR total.
Rookie Arencibia in debut: 4-5, 2B, 2 HR.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
the Cubs suck....Volquez isnt pitching well at all
He has 6 walks and 100+ pitches in the 6th, but yet they cant get anything off him.
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wells' line looks like he's pitching well.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Volquez walked Wells to put 2 on
And the Cubs fail again
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Gah I hate my co workers
I am supposed to get off at 2 but my replacement is already an hour late. When i called him he told me he would just be 20 mins late. When I called him he is was already 45 mins late. So somehow he is going to build a time machine in that time.
right now I am at my part time job
Which is working at a rental car company. So I can get off and go to my full time job at a detailing company
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 7, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
F'in Reds...
Stubbs HR
2-1
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Now cincys gonna blow it open....
Wells said screw it who cares
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I really cant wait for us to play them....
Im sick of having to root for the Pirates and Cubs to beat them. I have a good feeling about the series with Carp, Garcia, Waino going.
has anyone noticed we have a stretch of 17 of 20 games on the road later this month, next month?
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
VEB gets Sirius
azruavatar Barring something unforeseen, I’ll be on SiriusXM Radio Tuesday Night at 7:30CT with Steve Phillips talking Cardinal baseball.
wait, Azru is going to talk to Steve Phillips?
or he is just going to be appearing on the show?
'Hold my stones!'
Fire Tony LaRussa
Oooh, Oooh, Ask about Mo Vaughn!
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
things VEB wants to ask Steve Phillips...
and go.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He'd trade Strasburg for Oswalt!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
How did he even get another job?
The girl he got fired at espn over, def not worth it. She was so nasty.
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes...yes she was...
Apparently it was her stupidity and gullibility that he was attracted to.
'Hold my stones!'
Fire Tony LaRussa
Idk, they showed a few shots of other women he had affairs with...
He likes his women chubby. Thats what he liked.
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
given his taste... doesn't seem like much of a black book.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The producer for the show set me up for a 7:30CT hit.
SIRIUS|XM Fantasy Baseball w/ Steve Phillips
I don’t know where the conversation will go — presumably it will be Cardinal-centric. And yes, I’m insanely nervous about this. No, I will not be a jackass on the show. They’re gracious enough to have me on — I’ll be on my best behavior.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
by azruavatar on Aug 7, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I predict I will
enjoy listening to this
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 7, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So its a fantasy baseball show?
so you are talking Cardinals from a fantasy perspective?
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's how they bill the show but I get the impression that it's not a nitty gritty
let’s talk who is going to get you steals so much as what is the state of the team and who are productive players.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
Sell Miles.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
I wish I had Sirius radio here at work...
I have this old radio at my desk which is fine for Cards games but 101espn sucks. Bernie is the only one whose primary focus is the Cards.
All the other shows never shutup about the Rams. Like right now, why does anyone give a shit if Bobby Carpenter will be better in a 4/3? The Rams are so bad. And even when the Fast Lane talks Cards its so bad. The last person I want an opinion on the Cardinals from is Demarco Farr.
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it's the dog days of august in baseball
and it’s the start of training camps for the rams. can’t say I blame them talking about the rams. cardinals get plenty of attention on 101.1
Miles, in at third for his defense
Gotay has 16 E's
not sure on his TC not sure if his bat outweighs that. But its nto miles at 3b ick
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Don't worry about it. Those minor league error numbers are screwy.
Look at Pete Kozma. He has like 362 errors in the minors but he’s a great defensive player…
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 7, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahahahahaha
Damn that’s funny.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 7, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
guys i need help
Restaurant ideas in st. louis. 30 mile radius would be fine. Want to try something new so I may be shooting down good ideas.
1.) Nice sit down dinner
2.) Prices between 15-30 per plate
Miles, in at third for his defense
My favorite place for Steak is Stoney River by Chesterfield Mall
Its a nice restraunt, might be more towards 30$ a plate but it is amazing food.
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hwy 61 Roadhouse in Webster – Solid BBQ. Casual. Live music on weekends.
Bristol Seafood Grill in Creve Couer- Favorite place in town for seafood. A little dressier. Love their cioppino.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 7, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
bristol's sunday buffet
it gets insanely crowded, though
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Bristol is really good. Prob more than what u are looking to spend though
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Their menu w/ prices is on their site.
Unless he’s looking for a huge steak, they’re right in his wheelhouse. Certainly skirting toward the high-end of that range, though.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 7, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Smokey Bones in St.Clair
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 7, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Oooo. That's close to me.
I’ll have to give them a try.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 7, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it's real close to me, too.
Best calamari in town.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
And oh my god the lasagna with bechamel
it’s winter food, but it is incredible.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
This is a great restaurant
I know the sister of the owner and even besides that, the food is great.
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
Shiiiiiit
I can’t go to dinner there w/out spending three bills between two people. I want to eat the entire menu and drink the entire wine list.
Their blue plate lunch is the best deal in the city, though. Amazing tea, salad, main dish, and two sides all for $10.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Iron Barley
in South City. It would be awesome outside tonight…decent weather, they’ll probably have music.
Check it out.
Priyaa, Indian food
Out west a little bit, but I almost always eat there when I’m in town.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/priyaa-indian-cuisine-maryland-heights
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
That sounds great right now.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Forget the italian restaurants on the Hill
Frank Papa’s will blow them all away. Try the fried escarole salad. Actually, get anything there, it’s all great.
FJM: Fire John Mozeliak
well...
The Grandparents are coming now. And since they are scared of new things and even more scared of at thought of driving in St. Louis, we have decided to go to Gentelins in alton.
http://www.gentelinsonbroadway.com/
But thanks for the suggestions, Bistrol Seafood Grill and Trattoria Marcella were the leading candidates.
Miles, in at third for his defense
That tuna sounds good.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Mo has a chance to really set some records here
With a callup of Gotay and Stavinohoa (both of which could be likely), we could sport a roster with five, yes five, 25th men starting with Aaron Miles (who would not likely be called up for expanded rosters for any other ML club in September), we then move to Gotay, Stavinoha, Larue, and Schumaker.
And we still have a chance to win the division.
Just win
Speaking of expanded rosters....
We get 40 right? Do they have to be on the 40 man and does the team usually call all 40 up? With D.Jones still on the 40 man does he get called up? Or is it likely the team makes some changes to it and give someone like Descalso or Lynn a chance to see some MLB action?
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1.We get 40 right?
-yes
2.Do they have to be on the 40 man?
-yes
3.does the team usually call all 40 up?
-no
4.With D.Jones still on the 40 man does he get called up?
-no
5.Or is it likely the team makes some changes to it and give someone like Descalso or Lynn a chance to see some MLB action
-they have to be on the 40 man roster, to get on the 40 man roster someone has to be taken off it or be put on the 60 day DL.
yeah but i might be wrong
too lazy to do some typing and clicking and then counting
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
The mere thought of that bunch starting is enough to make me start drinking.
And I never start this early.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 7, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR is a bit stingy on Sept callups
We’ll get Stav if he isn’t up already. Maybe Carpenter or Gotay? I suspect we’ll get PJ, Salas, maybe one more arm. It’s a good question.
Just win
we won't get carpenter
he’ll finish the year in springfield, i imagine. if he gets a cup of coffee, it’ll be in memphis, imo
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
So they are allowed to bring up 40 but Tony usually doesnt?
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't really remember Tony bringing up more than 3-4.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 7, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
(john mozeliak)
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Aug 7, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
pretty sure his boss has a lot of say in how the roster is constructed
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
but i don't think the cards are like other orgs
where the GM runs everything. it’s probaby more of a gourp thing between TLR/dunc, mo and dewitt. checks and balances, yo
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
i've never thought of Mo as TLR's boss
is that how the org chart works? I guess I would have thought TLR was more of a Dewitt direct report
Just win
that's probably how it works with the cards
but in the baseball world, the GM hires and fires the manager. that makes him the boss imo. but like i said, i think it’s more of a checks and balances nature with the cardinals than your average baseball franchise. dewitt has suggested as much. he said when it comes to TLR’s replacement, it’s not going to be one guy saying, “i’m hiring this guy.” it’ll be a group thing. i would imagine that’s how the roster works, too. and that’s probably the best way to do it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
good news... Jaime used as example of covering first base
bad news… Al’s voice over explaining the move is also used, over a cubs pitcher.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
^TWIB
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ludwick makes the montage.
sniff. in Pads colors.
and there’s half a Cardinal. I have no idea who made that catch. it was in slo-mo and about 10 milliseconds.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and cordero is out
not sure if he got pulled or ejected. can’t imagine it was intentional
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Not getting hopes up.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
d-lee Ks
aramis ramirez is our only hope
pretend you’re playing against the cards a-ram!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Well, that was worthless.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 7, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If they didnt leave Wells in too long the wouldve already won
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 4:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
or if dewitt had caught an infield popup.
or if soriano had hustled to make the play on the single to left field…
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
masset threw one pitch in the strike zone to three hitters
with the bases loaded, and two of them struck themselves out. Pathetic.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Cocos not having a good year at all
Even tho they will prob win I like seeing him suck it up
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 4:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Tonight’s #STLcards lineup – Lopez 3B, Jay RF, Pujols 1B, Holliday LF, Rasmus CF, Molina C, Miles 2B, Westbrook SP, Ryan SS
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
no miles no miles no miles
ah shit.
Oh well. Least there is no miles and Stavinoha in the line up.
Miles, in at third for his defense
we finally have protection for pujols
and tony doesn’t know how to use it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
The Reds' pen is doing everything they can to make this interesting...
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
you go to hell and you die!
/couldn’t help it
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 7, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Berkman nailed A-Rod's ankle. A-Rod fall down.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Berkman not used to the new uniform?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
line drive during BP
the surprised jump was… okay, it was funny. especially in slow motion.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes, it's only the Cubs, but you gotta admit, the Reds' ability to win is impressive.
I LOVE this trade for the St. Louis Cardinals! -- Buster Olney.
Byrd you are worthless....
I really dont wanna see us go in to cincy down 1.5 games or more, we have set ourselves up to take that series but if we dont and we go in there down 1.5 or 2.5 games (which isnt unlikely with JJ tonight and Soup for us tomorrow) we could be in big trouble.
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 4:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wildly off-topic
Watching NASA channel now. They just finished a spacewalk on the ISS.
They’re showing them getting out of their suits now. There’s just sooo much stuff to undo, check, and so forth, plus the protocols they have to follow. One guy took his glove off, but they weren’t ready for that, so he slipped it back on.
Tedious but fascinating.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
is this what Motte does?
NOT THE GLOVE NOT READY NOT READY GLOVE SMELLS WRONG WAIT FOR THE GLOVVVEEEE
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
In space, no one can hear you suck.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 7, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh, cool.
They kinda bolt the upper part to the side of the room, then wriggle out the bottom.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 7, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
We really need to stay a .5 game back.
If we can go in there and take the series and leave in 1st place I think we will win the division. I know there is alot of baseball left but the last time we played the Reds and won the series against them it took them a week or so to recover and they didnt play well. If we can do it in Cincy I think it will send a message we are still the team to beat.
by mick311 on Aug 7, 2010 4:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Zack Cox
I’m suprised no one has mentioned him. Yes, we need to sign him. Yes, he’s young. But maybe we should fast-track him…
even fast-tracked he's not goin
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Aug 7, 2010 4:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
going to help us in 2011 or 2012.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Aug 7, 2010 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2012 is possible
if he takes the brett wallace route to AAA (and can play 3B)
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
did they sign wallace that early?
i guess that was before i followed cards’ prospects particularly closely
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
well, anyway
by this point, i’m hoping that he’s better than wallace. maybe he can finish 2011 in springfield and make the club out of ST in 2012. kinda depends on how this all goes with freese
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
i've been gone most of the day, and i'll be back for the gamethread
but before i go…
FUCK THE CUBS
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
The Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
If Craig really cannot play third base, which I'm guessing is probably the case
Then I’m warming up to the idea of Tyler Greene playing there with maybe 30% to 40% Lopex at the hot corner. I still haven’t wrote off Greene as a prospect and if he gets good playing time for a while (he can also give B. Ryan a day off ) and starts hitting then hey, that’s very cool. if not then you know he probably isn’t going to pan out. still may be a valuable bench player even if he isn’t a regular though. I agree, we should definitely have someone by ’11 besides Lopez, Greene and Freese. just to be safe.
so what of Mather, should he be given a shot there still?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
ok by me
against lefties in particular
floppy to second
or, just put tg at 2nd and leave floppy at 3rd
problem is i suspect tg will sent to memphis after dl
gotta keep the plantation orderly
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
...
watching Aaron Miles try to hit Josh Johnson will be comedy gold.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
The Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
So RR is talking mad shit about the reds...speaking of trash talking...
Chael Sonnen is JAWING at Anderson Silva, Im not going to be watching this fight. I hope someone will update me later tonight.
Also want to know the Matt Hughes/Ricardo Almeida result.
'Hold my stones!'
Fire Tony LaRussa
RR is talking mad shit about the Cubs***
sorry, wasn’t paying attention watching this UFC preview
'Hold my stones!'
Fire Tony LaRussa
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