Jaime Garcia and The Third Base Blues
You know how cartoon characters, after they fall off a cliff and get hit by a falling boulder, will look at the camera and say, "Well, at least things can't get any worse," and are immediately struck by lightning as it begins pouring rain? I've taken to walking around my house this morning, saying, "At least things can't get any worse," in the hopes of bringing a rainstorm that would at least cool things off a bit. Sadly, I have yet to locate the invisible audience.
Getting humiliated by the Houston Astros, again, in our home ballpark, is bad. But that's just a loss. That happens all the time, and no matter how deflating the loss you play again the next night. It's one of the nice things about baseball. What's really miserable is the knowledge the cavalry isn't coming. David Freese isn't coming back; apparently he's more Mr. Glass than Mr. Freeze and his ankles snap with literally no provocation whatsoever. Unfortunately that means what we saw last night - y'know, the whole Aaron Miles playing third base thing - is likely to be the norm rather than the exception for the near future.
The story of the 2010 Cardinals has, up to this point, largely been about players underperforming. Holliday early on with his men-on-base issues (and no, that's not a euphemism), the middle infield's collective dive off the offensive deep end, Albert's season-long malaise. But I submit to you if the time finally comes - and I'm not saying it has, or will - we must write the inscription for this team's memorial, it will be simple and elegant and sad.
"The Cavalry Never Came."
Of course, simply blaming the injuries is too easy. Underneath the inscription, I want a copy of the lineup card from last night, the one where it lists Aaron Miles as third baseman and Allen Craig, former third base prospect, as right fielder. Oh, and a quick video montage of Miles' throwing error in the first and the double-play ball he booted in the third and his weak groundouts and, well, you get the idea.
I don't want to pile on just Miles specifically, but I feel like I have to say something. After all, over at the Cards' website there's a story entitled, "Miles Hurls Scoreless Inning for Cards," but not, "Miles Makes Mopup Work Necessary." Okay, maybe, "Miles, Mitchell, and Mac Make Mopup Work Necessary." I know, I've got two last names and one first there, but what can I say? I'm a sucker for headline alliteration.
Last night was the first time we've really seen Jaime Garcia blink this season. Every other start, no matter what stuff he had or what plays were or weren't made behind him, he stared down his opponents with the same utter lack of fear we've come to expect from Carpenter or Wainwright; last night, though, Jaime looked like he was pitching scared. He looked afraid to challenge hitters, afraid of what the result would be, and that's not something we've seen from him before. Of course, given the way things went down when he did challenge hitters to put the ball in play, I can't exactly blame him; I certainly wouldn't want to throw a grounder up there when there seems to be a roughly 50/50 chance it gets booted. I would have given anything to be able to hear the conversation between Dave Duncan and Garcia on the mound when Duncan made his bizarrely-timed visit after an 0-2 curveball; I have a feeling Duncan was pissed because Jaime was deliberately pitching away from contact, but nothing to prove it.
So is there anything out there the Cards could go and get to fill in at third base for the rest of the season? Honestly, it's tough to really see a major upgrade who will make it through waivers, unless Aramis Ramirez somehow sneaks through. Unfortunately, he also has a massive option for next season, which he has already said he plans on exercising, so I doubt we're taking on another 16 million bucks of 2011 salary to avoid seeing Aaron Miles play more at the hot corner. Tyler Greene would be an ideal solution, of course, especially given Brendan Ryan's recent run of better hitting, but Greene is among the walking wounded as well. I'm sure we'll see plenty more Felipe Lopez over there, but let's face facts: Lopez isn't really all that much better over there with the glove than Miles. He can make the throw across, of course, but also occasionally just seems to decide he's too good for a particular grounder and just lets it go.
There are really no internal options, unless the Cards wanted to bring up Matt Carpenter and hope he goes all Bo Hart for a month or two. I've seen a few people bat around the name Chone Figgins, but they seem to forget he's signed for another three years after this to a brutally awful contract.
In the end, the best we can hope for is for Tony to see the light and at least give Allen Craig a shot. I've seen Craig play third in the minors, and trust me, while he's not exactly Scott Rolen or Ryan Zimmerman out there, he's also not the unmitigated disaster we witnessed last night. Maybe we could get Morgan Ensberg to give up his blog long enough to make a comeback...
No matter what, though, we can still take comfort in the fact no matter how big a disaster our third base situation may currently look to be, neither Joe Thurston nor Miguel Tejada will be appearing there any time soon. Cold comfort, I know, but you gotta take what you can get where you can get it.
The Baron's Playlist for the 4th of August, 2010 -- More Power, Please
"September Gurls" - Big Star
"Go All the Way" - Raspberries
"So It Goes" - Nick Lowe
"Surrender" - Cheap Trick
"There She Goes" - The LA's
"I Saw the Light" - Todd Rundgren
"What You Do to Me" - Teenage Fanclub
"Alex Chilton" - The Replacements
"Pretty Little Star" - Key
"Goin' Through Your Purse" - Material Issue
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Tony LaRussa: Worst good manager of all time or best bad manager of all time?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Most criticized good manager of all time.
And most confounding, as well.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I vote for "best bad manager"
Games have been won around him.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
around him
and despite him
i think tlr is just a competitor who can’t play in the field, so he tries to inject himself in the game by making too many moves and trying to do the odd thing often enough to get called smart because inevitably, some of the odd moves work out
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
by sportsman on Aug 4, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's a meddler.
A surprisingly successful meddler.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He is the losingest non-owner manager.
I don’t know how that affects the answer to your question.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe Jaime was not getting a good grip on the ball due to all the sweat and humidity
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions
Possible; he did seem to go to the rosin bag a lot last night.
I’m sure, at the very least, the conditions didn’t help matters any.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he was tipping his pitches
The Astros were hitting everything he threw up there.
by Handsome B Wonderful on Aug 4, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, and after Duncan came out to the mound in the 4th...
He seemed to have some success…
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
He's Mexican
don’t they have heat in Mexico?
/HarryCarey
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Looking at Casey Blake's contract situation...I don't like it.
Still a year left, quite a hefty amount, and he has a 2012 player option.
...and he got traded for Carlos Santana!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Yeah.
He falls in the same category as Ramirez, unfortunately. Blake would make a nice rental for the rest of the season, but I don’t think we really want him hanging around next year as well.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Is one year of Casey Blake at 5.25M really that bad
considering David Freese is no guarantee to ever be healthy?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
It's an awful lot of money to pay a bench player for 1 year.
Assuming Freese comes back. Which is no guarantee, but still, you have to plan for multiple scenarios.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
or, alternatively, casey blake is our starting 3B and we are paying league minimum for a bench player for one year
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Also possible.
But we’ve seen enough of Freese to know that he’s better than Casey Blake.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
either way
combine Freese and Blake’s salaries and say “this is our 3rd base position”. Who cares which is making more?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Makes sense to me.
Unless you start to look at what that extra 4 or 5 million could go towards.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
like shoring up 3rd base?
David Freese is anything but reliable.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Wouldn't you rather take your chances on Freese and upgrade the middle infield?
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
depends on what is available.
nevertheless, you’d be spending like just over 6 million on one position (3rd base). And that’s two players.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Oh I definitely agree.
As a whole, that’s not a lot of money to spend. But if Freese is completely healthy and producing like he did for 3 months this season, there’s no need for Blake. Then that money could go elsewhere.
I’m all for having an insurance policy…it’s just an expensive policy.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
"If"
That’s a huge “IF” when put in front of the words “David Freese” and “healthy”.
Anyway, I think the cheapness of Freese’s contract makes it very stomach-able. If it were the other way around and Blake was the question mark and we brought in Freese (who didn’t have the injury history), I think you’d be all over it, right?
Plus, I believe Casey is a movable commodity. He doesn’t make much money (in the grand scheme of third basemen), can still play the position. Fits well in a clubhouse. Grows a great playoff beard (discussed yesterday).
I’d say you could probably move him if you needed to pretty easily without eating much, if any at all, of his contract.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
He wouldn't be
a terrible option. The best of a bad lot, to be sure, compared to many of the others.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You've convinced me.
Mainly because of the callback to the beard.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
shit.
I should have played that card earlier….
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Given how Schu and Boog are playing this year
Floppy would clearly be an upgrade in the MIF if we could actually play him there.
ah. yes. easy to forget when he's not actually playing MIF.
hey its a good thing we signed him at the last minute! it would be all miles all the time!
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Do not ever suggest that again.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
besides
how can you even compare Ramirez and Blake and say they’re in the same category? Ramirez makes 10M dollars more per year than Blake.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
True, but
I meant in the sense you don’t necessarily want them for more than just this year but would have to take them for 2011 as well.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You could probably eat a little of Blakes contract
say the 1.25M buyout for 2012, and get someone to take him off your hands.
Either way, he’s not a bad guy to have around and I don’t see him getting in too many people’s way at 3rd except Craig and he should be getting fairly regular playing time in the outfield anyway.
I’m just saying, picking up Casey Blake solves a lot of issues right now (if this whole Craig thing is less than palatable) and “getting stuck” with him for 2011 isn’t exactly a bad thing. Ideal? No. But not horrible.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I Agree....
….and he would be a better back-up to have around in case freeze really is made of glass. he can have Winn’s roster spot.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
The Cavalry Never Came...yup, pretty much sums it up
Taking questions today, RB?
1. Have you heard Arcade Fire’s new one yet? What do you think?
link, if anyone wants to hear
2. I can get free NYY – Sawx tickets for the game at Yankee Stadium on friday. Go, or shy away based on my intense dislike for both teams?
Arcade Fire's new one
is exactly what I would expect from them. It’s incredible.
And go. I’ve never been to either Yankee Stadium (one of only about seven parks I haven’t visited), and I would jump at the chance to go even hating both teams. Totally worth it just to see the stadium. (Unless you’ve been before. I would still probably go, but it’s not as much of a slam dunk.)
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
What stadiums haven't you been to?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Never been to
either NY stadium (old or new on Yankee; went to Shea once and it was a shithole), Fenway, San Diego, Seattle, Anaheim, Arizona, Arlington, um, I think that’s it.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
this is funny because the only stadiums i've been to are pretty much the exact ones you haven't been to.
except i’ve been to dodger stadium and not any NY stadiums
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Ugh... Dodger Stadium...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Chavez Ravine
was kinda cool, but I was shocked to find it isn’t even the slightest bit of an exaggeration when they talk about people only coming for the middle four innings, except the latin contingent in the bleachers. Not a great stadium, but cool to see nonetheless.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And Dodger Dogs are terrible, the fans are terrible, the parking is terrible
Hell, even getting to the stadium is terrible!
I need to check out Angel Stadium this year… maybe make my way down to Petco
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Eh,
I thought the dogs were okay. You are correct about the rest of it.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
They're skinny and long (no twss)
I’d rather get a nice, thick kosher dog at the Busch any day (TWSS as much as you want)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Too...many....jokes...
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Petco is really nice, IMO
the ocean is right there…and there are these cool historic buildings that they built the stadium around so they became part of the stadium. even though i have been there three times and never seen the cardinals win, i still really like it.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
It looks beautiful on television.
I would like to go, just have never gotten there yet. I did, however, have the “pleasure” of seeing a game at Qualcomm. Oy.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
AT&T park, or whatever they are calling it these days, is #1 on my list of where i want to go next
i usually go to the NLDS when the cardinals play a west coast team. i am rooting for the giants this year.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
You'll love it.
Probably my second favourite park, after PNC. Just an amazing stadium.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I vote meetup if the Cards play the Dodgers
We’ve got a few west coasters here
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
we could meet up in san diego.
i don’t know if i can go back to dodger stadium. i had things thrown at me. and i was called really terrible, unrepeatable names. and i wasn’t even in the bleachers.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Oh, I was definitely in the bleachers during last year's playoff series
It was fun, though. Some light hearted ribbing, nothing too bad
Yeah, I could do San Diego
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
is it cause i'm a girl? there were a group of guys telling me to...do things...
it was disgusting. luckily, i had my u of a hoodie and wore it out of the stadium when jeff suppan lost to jose lima (RIP).
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
no my younger brother was with me. but he wasn't with me when the comments were made...it was when i went to go get a beer.
but both of us had beer caps thrown at us.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
that's so horrible
with my big mouth, i would have probably talked back and gotten my ass kicked
sorry you had to make that experience. i’ve never seen anything remotely similar happen at busch
maybe that’s the right time to find security, complain, and ask for other seats (upgrade pls)
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
I don't think there are seats at Dodger Stadium that WOULDN'T be like that
I mean, I guess you sit behind home plate for the 1-3 innings and 7-9…
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i think if it happened now i would react differently.
but i was a kid and i was actually pretty scared to be in LA anyway. luckily, there was this other cardinals fan in my section who was super rowdy and he drew most of the attention from the haters after awhile.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Whoa whoa whoa
Careful there
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
but we actually got lost going to our hotel and we found a gas station where some cops were chilling so we stopped for directions
and then we told the cops what happened at the game and then they told us that earlier that year a giants fan had been stabbed in the parking lot after a game and that it was probably a good thing that the cardinals lost.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
hfs
note to self: don’t go to dodger stadium
updated note to self: just don’t go to l.a.
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
This is probably the right way to go
Though it does have redeeming qualities
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
no, go to dodger stadium. its an experience worth having.
just pretend to root for the dodgers while you are there. or at least be indifferent. go when they are playing the cubs or something.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Possibly. But that's horribly inappropriate. If anything, guys should be getting the brunt of it, not the girls
The Cards lost when I went… I still maintain that the ball Ryan Ludwick hit down the LF line was fair
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
did you have a good view of that play?
i cannot believe there has never been a replay.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Well I was halfway up the bleachers
I can’t claim that I had the best perspective haha
Everybody at the stadium thought it was fair though… The guys that I was joking with all night look at me and just go “Yikesssssssss”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
AT&T Park is friggin awesome
If you go for a day game, consider sitting in the upper deck behind home plate, you get a stunning view of the bay.
I just need a find a friend who cares enough about baseball to pay $30 and drive 2 hours
for two teams he doesn’t care about
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
USC is huge. there must be other cardinals fans there. i found tons at U of A.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I know of 3 people who are also from Missouri. One's a Royals fan, one I can't stand, and the other just graduated
Oh, and one girl from my home town who’s had a crush on me since I was 10 who went to USC specifically because of me who I’ve avoided successfully for 3 years
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yep, nice to watch a game there
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Petco is great
I’ll never forget the first game I saw there, since that was the game Pujols took out the SD battery. Line drive off Chris Young’s face, then injured the catcher (I forget who) on his slide into home the same inning.
Barrett, I think?
Might have been Bard.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it was Bard
That shit was crazy
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
haven't made it to Petco
They were still playing at qualcomm when I was there.
Miles, in at third for his defense
I want to got to Dodger Stadium
but for purely historical purposes only. I too have heard it’s a shit hole, but feel obligated to go there.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
this is way you pretty much have to do it because of the traffic going in and out
it literally took me 2 hours to get out of the parking lot.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I can safely say that it would be faster for me to walk to Dodger Stadium from USC than to drive there
Fuck. I hate LA.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i almost went to USC for undergrad
then i visited. the campus is great. the rest of LA, not so much.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I love USC. Everything about the school. Hell, it probably got me this job with the Mariners
LA is just such a weird city for me. I loooovvvveeeee the weather, the beach, and the food. I haaaaaaattttteeee the traffic, the smog, and the people
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I've only been to LA a couple times
But that perfectly summed up how I felt, except that I didn’t get to experience much of the food.
I've only been to Turner, Busch, and Wrigley :(
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
“Turner Busch and Wrigley” sounds like some sort of sexual move that would be illegal in most of the South
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Or an awesome sequel to "Turner and Hooch"
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
shit why do i keep forgetting i have been to wrigley?
someone just asked me the other day which stadiums i’ve been to and i forgot. maybe its because that was the game in 08 when carp was coming back from injury and he pitched poorly and the cardinals lost and i had to hear that stupid song…oh, the horror.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I forgot at first I went there
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess
It was cold, windy, and they were playing the Reds. Matt Clement pitched a gem. I was too young to legally drink so I had to just sit there. I was wearing a Cardinals shirt though.
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
sucky place to watch a game
low slope to to stands and mostly i got to see what seemed like hundreds of vendors between me and the field
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
i had family/friends seats, because i have a buddy who is friends with the cardinals' video guy
we sat next to schumaker’s cousin.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
heh i wish i had thought to ask.
schumaker was still playing OF at that time.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
He is not.
I’ve met the gentleman in question, and he told me he wishes, in fact, he were a little bit taller. Also that he was a baller, and had an attractive female acquaintance to whom he could place a phone call.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well played
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Busch II & III,
the old Miller, Mile High, Kaufman, Shea, Old Yankee, Fenway, King Dome.
I think that’s it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Stadiums
Bush II & III, Kauffman, Arlington Stadium, The Ballpark at Arlington, and Wrigley for major league parks
by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 4, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
busch 2 and 3, shea, old yankee, fenway
the fact that i haven’t been to kauffman, minute maid and the ballpark in arlington is probably my own fault
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Busch II and III,
Old Yankee, Wrigley, Coors, Old Fulton County, Giants (whatever name they are now using)
Sportsmans Park, Busch I, II, III, Old Yankee, New Yankee, Shea, Fenway, Tiger,
Wrigley, Memorial, Camdem, Petco, ATT, Safeco
I LOVE this trade for the St. Louis Cardinals! -- Buster Olney.
Yea - Arcade Fire's new album is great!
Can’t wait to see them at Lollapalooza this weekend!
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
Absolutely go.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 4, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for mentioning new Arcade Fire
Listened via the link, which reminded me about my Best Buy Reward Zone (free) Napster subscription. So, I got the album for free with my quarterly credits.
Before I was just frustrated with this team
now I am scared that this team is just not very good.
1.14.10, the day I went green.
Ok... I'm sick of being negative
Heres my bit of optimism about the current 3B situation:
Maybe this is the GOBs favorable return for being such colossal douchebags to us all year. Maybe the situation with Freese and his glass ankles, Lopez and his concrete hands, and Miles and his midget-wrestler body is just precursor to the start of the Allen Craig era. Maybe Craig hits enough to justify his less than perfect (perceived) defense.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
I agree that this is a huge break for Allen Craig and is a chance for him to prove what he can do...
but there’s a reason he’s not regarded as a third baseman.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather him at least play 10 games there and suck
than watch mighty mouse play there again
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
David Freese should tape his ankles before every game...
If you have chronic ankle issues, it just seems logical… Soccer and Football players do it all the time…
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
And green.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 4, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i am not worried about miles playing 3B at all anymore
you know, since we’re putting him in the rotation and all
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
I think it was moore....
…of an emergency situation, rather than just toss Craig out there without having a bit of time to limber up
(by the way, I can write Craig now!)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
rotoworld is quoting goold as saying
That craig will get a look at third. Whatever a look means.
It’s funny, you know, our options dried up last year at third and craig languished in aaa while joe thurston, mark derosa, and the amazing wrist that goes “pop” took over at third.now he gets a chance? I’m not complaining about giving him a chance, just saying.
If he doesn’t hack it at third, gotay deserves a look.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Aug 4, 2010 12:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ackerman and Bernie both think that Craig should be 3B
So at least the media has some faith in Craig
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 4, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
if craig does get his shot at 3B
it might be the only very slim silver lining out of last night … Tony actually put Craig at 3B for 1 inning and lightning did not thunder down from the heavens. Craig at 3B is only potential solution to the black hole we have at that position right now (for a player playoff eligible). We say the words “nothing left to lose” all the time … but this really is a true nothing left to lose situation. DAMN THE TORPEDOES, FREE ALLEN CRAIG!!!
NO NO NO.
CHAIN ALLEN CRAIG TO THIRD BASE!
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
given our 3B curse, maybe its best to leave miles there for a few games.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Well, Craig didn't exactly rake in Memphis
during the first half of last season. He didn’t turn it on until after we traded for DeRosa. Even if he had been raking, the Cards still wouldn’t have given him a shot, so I guess my point is moot.
Padres' RFL for GG!
Happy Chris Carpenter Day!
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
May the Luggage be With You...
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Aug 4, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hitting, fielding, and pitching are NOT.....
this team’s biggest problem.
It feels like a team that lacks veterans in the clubhouse to get things right when they go wrong. We all know that isn’t the case, unless the vets we have aren’t leaders, but even that, I can’t imagine is true. Are there clubhouse issues extending beyond Luddy? Is Raz happy?
clubhouse issues come naturally when a team is losing
everyone seemed pretty chummy during the 8 game winning streak
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Biggest problem...
is that we’re not winning enough…
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
yeah, i would say that hitting, fielding, and pitching are EXACTLY our biggest problems.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
what else is there really
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that we don't have Ludwick
Our team doesn’t throw that well, either. Skip and Molina are the only two guys on the field with plus arms, I think.
I never had a very good throwing arm either.
they are kind of a luxury
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
colby had a nice throw that yadi biffed yesterday.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
When the hell did biff become a word?
Some intern here used it the other day, and I’d honestly never heard that word before
Am I becoming uncool? Do I need to start listening to Justin Bieber?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
who? wat?
biff is not new and cool. its probably old and lame and you are too young and cool to know it.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
This scenario is much more likely
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Urban Dictionary: To have an epic fail or get seriously hurt.
To Fall HARD. From the longboard community.
I LOVE this trade for the St. Louis Cardinals! -- Buster Olney.
Yeah man, I used to be so hip
I had the most Pokemon cards out of ANYBODY
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
this reminds me..have you guys heard of silly bands
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I traded your soul for Alf pogs!
Remember Alf? He’s back…
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Here you go...
http://lolblips.dailyradar.com/video/3-year-old-crying-over-justin-bieber/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Boy, that was just a kick
in the balls, wasn’t it? After all the issues Colby had had this year with his throwing, he uncorks a perfect strike to nail Lee and Yadi just sort of…whiffs on it. Ugh.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It was indeed RB,
with a pair of steel toed boots.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
oh yeah
forgot about him
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't Boog have a plus arm?
or does his quick release kind of make him look more impressive?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Probably this
Oh, this reminds me… I talked to our advance scout yesterday about people he’s rated 80s
The only 80 that he’s ever given was to Brett Gardner’s speed, which I thought was surprising. Based on home to first times, and adjusting for handedness, apparently he rates better than Carl Crawford
He’s given a couple of 70 to 75 arms… Delmon Young, Nelson Cruz, Rick Ankiel.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Tell him Rick Ankiel has an 80 arm
The other 80s I’d give out are Pujols bat, Strasburg’s fastball, Rivera cutter, Yadier’s arm/pop times, not sure about this year but in years past Howard’s power (he’s currently 3rd in history for HR/AB). I’m sure I’m missing some others off the top of my head, but those scream out “historic”.
Not afraid to nitpick
Koufax's curve
and his fastball.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I thought of that but couldn't quite put it there
Could you really say it is in the say top 5 in history? I’m not sure.
Not afraid to nitpick
amaury cazana makes those throws
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
catches em, too
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch, but not with Johnny Mo!
by mattyfrommo on Aug 4, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It is not actually a throw
The ball just runs screaming away
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Aug 4, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
mark derosa's wife?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Aug 4, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well he only does hitters/fielders and he generally only does AL teams
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Those plays were exceptional, no doubt
Best throwing performance I’ve ever seen by a player. I still don’t think Ankiel’s arm is consistently accurate, though, and Fangraphs’ arm runs seem to agree. Ludwick rates much higher, for example.
Not really sure how much stock I'm putting into 3 seasons of ARM ratings over watching the guy make impossible throws
UZR isn’t really seeing the difference between a guy trying to go to 3rd on a gap floater vs. a throw from the effing wall in Colorado.
Not afraid to nitpick
what about all the throws that he just airmails
or are way off line, etc
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
And I disagree with that
The one thing that stood out to me was the irony that his arm was in fact crazy accurate.
Not afraid to nitpick
I watched him too. If I’m trying to record an out with a throw from RF, I’m choosing Ludwick over Ankiel – and I don’t think Ludwick is in contention for a best arm contest.
Not a chance for me
Not even close to being close. Ankiel’s OF arm is the best I’ve ever seen.
Not afraid to nitpick
I think his arm was even better than Dwight Evan's
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch, but not with Johnny Mo!
Mark Whiten.
Currently, Jeff Francouer has a good arm.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm,
Vlad Gurrero was the freaking business when he was younger. Best OF arm in the majors in his prime.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Reply fail
this was supposed to be in response to what else is there beside hitting, fielding and pitching
A: making sweet, sweet love.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Aug 4, 2010 11:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
so you're a tony guy
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't think.....
The roster has plenty of talent to be better than we have been? Why are AP’s numbers down? Why are Holliday’s down? Why are guys that are normally focussed and fundamentally sound making stupid mistakes? Why the baserunning mistakes? Why the general complacency? On paper, this team should hit well enough. On paper, this team should pitch well enough. On paper, this team should field good well enough. Well enough for what? I don’t know, but to be better than we’ve been most of the year.
It isn’t a talent issue. That should be obvious. If it isn’t talent, and the coaches don’t suck (I’m sure some knuckleheads will disagree), then it has to be an attitude/chemistry/lockerroom issue. There really isn’t another acceptable answer. And I might put Big Mac in that group. Never seen SO many Cardinals struggle for SO long. Hitting-wise, HE is what changed.
I really don't think that stuff is because of a lack of "veteran presence"
so are you advocating for more Winn/Miles/Larue types? I’m not sure what you are saying I guess. If superstars like Albert, Holliday, Carpenter, etc can’t give the team enough veteran presence, I’m not sure that adding another guy like Lowell is going to do that much for the chemistry, or whatever.
if players aren’t playing with their heads in the game, there must be something else going on.
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I never said add a scrubby veteran.....
I never even said that it was a problem. I said that “feels” like the problem. How in the world does a team play the way they have the last week when in the middle of a pennant race? Something is off. I have no idea what, but the talent is there. May or may not be WS talent, but we definitely have NL Central winning talent, even with most of the injuries. For whatever reason, way too often it feels like this team is just going through the motions.
it seems to me, if I were to guess
there’s a bit of a disconnect in the org between tony and other parties. just seems that the philosophies are very different, not sure how this translates to the players or the play on the field, but I’m not a psychologist or team analyst really.
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
holliday's numbers are not really down
last year on aug. 4: .308/.397/.496 (.893 OPS) with 65 RBI and 14 HRs
this year on aug 4: .298/.376/.530 (.906 OPS) with 64 RBI and 21 HRs.
and i don’t think its right to say that on paper this team should field well enough. not when you have an OF converted to 2B and no natural 3B. nor can you say this team should pitch well enough when 2/5 of the rotation is gone. and even so, the pitching has been pretty good this year, including the pen. the after a game like last night it is hard to say that, but it is the truth.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
There's other factors too
Just to name a few we have
1) Aging – Most of the regulars are on the wrong side of the normal aging curve. It’d only play a small part and was captured in projections etc. but is still there.
2) Luck – Ball in play luck; injury luck
Neither of those are affected by anything that has to do with chemistry or presence. Not that chemistry or presence wouldn’t be part of the equation, but it definitely doesn’t explain the entire gap between expected and actual performance.
by stevesommer05 on Aug 4, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
29 as the peak seasonal age...
Right side of it: Rasmus, Yadi, Jay, Boog
Wrong side of it: Holliday, Pujols, Schumaker, Felipe Lopez
All of the wrongsiders are 30. Bizarre.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 4, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Of the right siders
only Jay and Raz are in the upswing part.. Yadi and Boog are questionable depending on whose aging study you trust most. JC Bradbury says 29 MGL says 27
But yeah my guess was off in general.
by stevesommer05 on Aug 4, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
my broken record comment
it’s tlr
too many goofy decisions that may be intended to communicate in some passive-aggresive way with other players or management i don’t know
but attitude starts at the top and if players like tlr or not, but are mystified by his moves, then they will become/have become dispirited
if we can see it, it so can the players
as that one anonymous quote after the ludwick deal: “what the hell are they doing” kind of sums it up
to me that is a big part of it
injuries are part of it, but how you deal with the shortcomings is also important
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I guess my point was it's not any one thing
I fell that it’s a combination of many things. Clearly you have the right to disagree
by stevesommer05 on Aug 4, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Al?
Rick? Which one are you?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
fixed
“Miles, Mitchell, and Mac Make Mopup Work Necessary a Mandatory Must”
heh
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
by d-dee on Aug 4, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Fantastic.
And a rec for you.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
what happened with the fanposts
wow
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions
You mean how most of them have very little content?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah
write a paragraph! it would never fit in a daily thread
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd guess that half of fourstick's posts are longer than those fanposts...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Aug 4, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
exactly!
I’ve been trying to suggest that maybe a fanshot chat is the way to go for those but they don’t listen. they just say that oh no one looks at fanshots. which is not true.
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
well
look at them dammit!
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
SIGH....FINE.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
by IHeartBoog on Aug 4, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have no idea why people are such fanpost, fanshots and overall post police
it’s far more annoying then whoever it is they’re trying to get the high ground on.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
i dunno
the quality of fanposts has definitely deteriorated. i think riverrat was being sarcastic. meaning, “if you point it out, you’re made out to be an asshole”
it’s so bad, i hardly even look at the fanposts anymore. used to be a source of very quality analysis. i guess i could get off my ass and contribute instead of bitching, though, eh?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Right......
It just seems that a number of the FP’s are merely comments that can be made in a discussion thread, instead of bouncing a quality FP off the page.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
So if Craig does play 3B
do we need to find another OF? The idea of more Randy Winn out there makes me want to go all Brad Thompson on a puppy…..
Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....
by Futility Infielder on Aug 4, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions
milk carton at 3rd
holly-cloby-jay
boog-floppy
alternate = scrappydoo at 2nd and rf; winn = ph only
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
plus
barden is available in the minors
and you can trade for them w/o waivers, right?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Wait what
Where did Barden come from?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Mather is starting to hit again
with power in AAA. I’d give him a shot in the outfield before a dumpster dive.
If Lopez is available
He’ll be playing 3B. There is a reason Craig was shifted off of 3B and the only reason he needs to get a look at 3B is because Miles should never ever be stepping at 3B on the field. Lopez is the everyday 3B.
Not afraid to nitpick
Randy Winn is probably just as good as a lot of other options
and better than Stavinoha.
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on Stavinoha
If nothing else, I’d like to see them pick up someone else so they can move Miles to the bullpen, where he can be of some use.
Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....
by Futility Infielder on Aug 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he should start the first game of every series
and in a few innings, after he’s screwed up everyone’s swing on the opposing team, the real game can start
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
by d-dee on Aug 4, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Awesome.
Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....
by Futility Infielder on Aug 4, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
But the thought of Allen Craig at 3b
makes me want to go all Chris Duncan on a toaster!
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Brandon Inge?
If the Tigers keep fading, could he be an option? Detroit is 7 games back, playing .500 baseball. Inge is in the final year of a 4-year contract. He is getting paid $6.6 million this year, so we’d only be on the hook for ~$2-3 million. Could we get him? What would it take? Would we want him?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
I believe Inge is on the DL
for quite a while. I could be wrong, though.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
no.
he started his rehab stint last night.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Gotcha.
I couldn’t recall.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I was not aware of that
Sounds like he could be back relatively soon, though (according to Tackle Box below)
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
*above
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He's also quite possibly not actually better than Aaron Miles at hitting
which is quite a feat for a professional ballplayer.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
other than the fact that he's hurt right now
but, if healthy, Inge fills a lot of holes.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
He can catch too
so, erm, dump LaRue and bring up Gotay. Or something.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly, after a broken hand
I’d rather stay away. I’m sure the power won’t be there. I vote for a Craig, Lopez, and Mather platoon, especially since Mather’s power looks to be returning and he’s hit for average in Memphis.
Padres' RFL for GG!
Damnit, why did Texas have to acquire Jorge Cantu?
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I am most concerned that the Cardinals make a trade for Pedro Feliz.
He makes Miles look like a good 3B.
?
Pedro Feliz’ value is almost entirely drawn from that he is a legitimately awesome defensive 3B.
Not afraid to nitpick
Per BJ Rains
Motte to DL, Palindrome up
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Of course
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ohhhhh dear
well, I suppose as soon as you hear “shoulder tightness” you kinda think “DL for the next two years” when a Cards pitcher is involved. It’s starting to really suck that we didn’t get in on a reliever before the deadline. I really think our pen could absolutely stink in the second half.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
They sure have sucked the last two nights
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Salas?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Palindrome is a horrible nickname
Let’s not call our players Palin anything
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 4, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i agree
i like it
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
But it make me want to pull of Jose Reyes style dance move
Like Salsa does
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 4, 2010 1:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Palindromes > Anagrams
Noob
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Is Palin even a politician? I thought she was a Jerry Springer character
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay,
enough. Too easy to cross the line.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Palindrome fail
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Aug 4, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No politics!!!!
Or there’s a certain president whose 1/2 France 1/2 Karl Marx with his views and just because he’s less trendy to bash doesn’t mean he couldn’t
(the exception to no politics of course is bashing bp, fucking bp)
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 4, 2010 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*we couldn't
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 4, 2010 1:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I certainly wouldn't say he's less trendy to bash
They’re pretty much equal nowadays
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I thought he was half black and half white
he’s a moderate, silly
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I rofled
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You know,
when you say, “No politics,” that does not give you carte blanche to then bring your own politics into. Knock it off.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thank you
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 4, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks.
I appreciate it.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
My palindrome was much lamer than everyone else's
/not a palindrome
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
Ten animals I slam in a net?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
None of these are a haiku.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Tried, but failed.
Doc note: I dissent.
A fast never prevents a fatness.
I diet on cod.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Aug 4, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas.
by Andyfantastic on Aug 4, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
can't believe that nobody posted this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nej4xJe4Tdg
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
did nobody watch this?
an entire song composed of palindromes by weird al?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Awww shit
The hits just keep on coming.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 4, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
So, 0.5 games out
time to blow this team up and build for the future, right?
Still bitching to contact.
I don't think it needs to be blown up.
One upgrade in the middle infield and better health from the starting rotation and I think we’re just fine. Unfortunately, with Freese going out that upgrade almost assuredly won’t happen.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Aggggh, that's my problem!
It seems like the players have tuned TLR out…we have a handful of players that take mental vacations every few games, but we’re a half game out!
What can you do!? You can’t fire TLR…you can’t call out players…aaaaaaaagh!
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
you can call out players, for sure. and someone other than TLR needs to be doing that.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Jerry Reinsdorf is intrigued by your suggestion and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
by TBender on Aug 4, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
kinda hard to argue against the White Sox success over the past decade or so...
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
sure I do
but I also remember the white sox not only winning a World Series in 2006, but also being one of the most winningest teams (if not the #1 winningest team) in baseball the past 10 years.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
you remember the white sox winning a world series in 2006?
funny, i have different memories of 2006.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
2005
my bad…..
doesn’t change the point.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Yes, I think our 2006 postseasons were vastly different.
Or I managed to drug myself into a very pleasant hallucination.
Yes, but according to the market,
We could only get 2 useless minor leaguers for Pujols while paying some salary.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
McCutcheon leadoff HR
Pirates up 1-0 on Reds
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
rb, here's some of that montage you wanted

..i miss ludriguez-wick..
by d-dee on Aug 4, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Ahh!
My eyes! IT BUUURRRRNNNNNNSSSSSSS!!!
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Was the throw so bad Skip didn't even bother trying for it?
Look at that gritty dive! He was just trying to make a play!
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
Nobody feels worse about that play than Aaron Miles
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
He was willing to get his uniform dirty for the play!
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
That play did seem to light the fuse on the shit explosion that ensued...
But I think it would’ve prolonged the inevitable. Jaime didn’t have anything last night. Once the Astros honed in on what he was throwing (tipping his pitches, allegedly) they just sat back, waited, and hit it hard somewhere.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
throw
it looked like the ball almost hit the runner. waaay off line.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 4, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he thought they were playing kickball?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I blame us.
Clearly Miles has read too much about how bad his arm is and thought he had to hurry the play more than he did. If he felt better about his throwing he wouldn’t have done that.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe he just didn't the running start that he needed to get the ball there
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i hope, for his mental sanity, he does not read VEB
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i'm actually pretty sure he's a nice dude
but i wish he’d play better
he does try though
more than you can say for some of the other guys
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
He wishes he were a bit taller
He wishes he were a baller
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Aug 4, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perhaps he WAS standing up.
I can never tell with that little guy.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Aug 4, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I can never tell with that littleguytroll.
Your eyes do not deceive you. I honestly felt the need to correct myself.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Aug 4, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It works for Stavinoha at the plate...
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
The more I watch this the more I laugh at Skip on the play
He runs to second, then just turns around and runs to the outfield. No chance of getting the ball.
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 4, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's like playing Atari Baseball
when you don’t quite have the hang of the controller.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 4, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually find Skip's reaction to be the most hilarious aspect of this entire sequence.
He looks as if he’s being controlled by a 5-year old playing Triple Play ’97 for PlayStation.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Aug 4, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
When he falls it doesn't hurt because he's already so close to the ground.
I LOVE this trade for the St. Louis Cardinals! -- Buster Olney.
So why is that little white 12 year old throwing the baseball around?
Did security not notice that he was running onto the field and stealing the ball?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 4, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't TLR want to start Craig at third?
I read at MLB.com that TLR thought about it but decided that the Astros were too righty-heavy for Craig’s first start at third in like a year. Also, he mentioned that Jaime was a groundballing lefty without a ton of sauce, so why put Craig there for the first time in what must feel like forever when everyone and thier mother would be hitting the ball to third?
by Jon S. on Aug 4, 2010 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wait just a minute!
this doesn’t fit with my preconceived notions
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Can we end this meme? Craig is the 5th batter every time he plays it seems :)
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
So Aaron figgin Miles was a better option defensive option at 3B?
DAMN THE TORPEDOES, FREE ALLEN CRAIG!!!!
it goes to the idea of not putting craig in a position to fail
a way of protecting him, i think. he’s a rookie, one step at a time.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
right
two years ago he was told he couldn’t play 3rd base so they moved him to the outfield. Now they are thrusting him into playing 3rd. Doesn’t seem like a good idea at all
Miles, in at third for his defense
good, bad, reason
those terms go out the window when the baseball gods drop a thermal nuclear device on the Cards 3B position. Reason is no longer exists in reference to the Cards and 3B. Want, like, best … all out the window. We played a midget with gator arms at 3B last night. He absolutely blows defensively but more so @ 3B than 2B. He played there because the manager for some unfathomable reason thought the midget would suck less defensively than Felipe Lopez @3B. We are looking for somebody to come in and just mildly suck. That’s all we are asking. Craig was an average defensive 3B in AA. He’s our best shot right now before we put Ruben Gotay on the 40 man roster.
Felipe didn't play because he a
had fluid drained from his knee. That was Tony’s unfathomable reason.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
So, TLR goes with Miles instead?
I don’t follow the logic.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 4, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Using this logic...
Al needs to lead off the broadcast with something like “Aaron Miles is in there for his ability to stay on a major-league roster”.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
it'll be interesting to see him throw to first
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
he rolls it across the diamond
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
heh...brandon phillips just got HBP and the umpire didn't call it, said he intentionally tried to get hit
maybe cin-cin’s luck is turning.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Or, maybe the ump just REALLY hates Brandon Phillips
Which, to be honest, isn’t that bad considering he is a Red :D.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Might be a little unfair to ask Craig to play 3rd
The cardinals moved him away for a reason. We are n the middle of a race. He has a chance to be an everyday player in the outfield. If he stuggles at third it may carry over to his offense and hurt his chances at being an everyday player. It could also be the best thing for him, if he shows he can stick there, but I trust or minor league staff enough that if they say he can’t they are probility correct.
I also think Mo might have kept him down in the minors over stavinoha for the purpose of him getting abs every day because the cardinals long term plans did not includ ludwick. Of course, this could just me trying to justify it. But it seems like the most logical reason.
Miles, in at third for his defense
by Evilfrog on Aug 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree.
Part of the reason the Cardinals are in the current state they are right now is because they are asking players to do things that they aren’t comfortable doing and that they don’t excel at.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
see but i also think some of it may have had to do with the fact that freese also played 3B and was just better.
although that doesn’t really explain why craig hasn’t played there this year.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I don't think they are expecting him to stay there... making the extra outfielder talk kinda pointless
we most likely still need a 3B. I think they just want to find a pleasant surprise and see if Craig can alleviate Lopez starting there all the time
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
shannon
was a combo rf and 3rd base, although he started in rf
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
he was a butcher at 3B
He made Schumaker look like a gold glover
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 4, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
he doesn't have the chance to be an everyday player in the OF because he's going to likely platoon with Jay.
And I agree that he probably is not a suitable longterm solution at 3B and that Luhnow and company were correct in their assessment that he’s not good enough the play there, full time, in the majors.
Nevertheless, emergencies sometimes call for emergency measures. And MIles playing 3B is an emergency needing resolution. Craig may not be a “major league 3B”; but neither is Miles.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
they probility are correct, but we have to do something
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
is he available?
i’d rather stick with craig or gotay anyway. the dud can’t hit
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Why? Why not just bring Gotay up?
I’d rather take Gotay’s D and on-base ability than Barden’s D… that’s about all he’s got, so I’ll stop there with Barden.
Padres' RFL for GG!
The issue is that Miles is so bad that we simply can't have him be at 3B
There really isn’t another option to back up Lopez—-that MoTLR are going to consider seeing as how Gotay is actually playing 3B in Memphis and is a better hitter than Miles, but that’s just what they’d be expecting..
Not afraid to nitpick
Release the Craigen!
and let him play third!
Milt Thompson FTW!
by gossard56 on Aug 4, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
:-( i thought that was kinda clever
Milt Thompson FTW!
the good: this season is starting to feel kinda like '06
the bad: I thought this year would be a walk through the park/nl central
the ugly: I think we all know what the ugly is… shitty players taking up roster spots, and the unrelenting DL
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions
A-Rod
just hit #600. Thank god, maybe we won’t have to hear about it anymore.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
yeah
seriously, I was getting sick of that dumb storyline
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
just in time for the Favre insanity to begin eh?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
someone on FB was celebrating Favre not coming back again this year
to which I replied, are you sure?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
To your point...
Brett Favre told ESPN’s Ed Werder in Hattiesburg, Miss., on Wednesday that he has not made any decision about returning to play for the Minnesota Vikings this season and says he will play if healthy.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
what an attention whore
seriously
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder what ESPN will do!?!
Brett Favre retirement or A-Rod’s 600th.
CHOICES, CHOICES!
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
well played mauer
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I will be certain Favre is retired when I see him buried.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Maybe they could have A-Roid hit baseballs at a target in the outfield...
With “Stay” on one and “Go” on the other…until Aroid hits one and decided for Favre.
Talk about orgasms in Bristol…
by RollBirdsRoll on Aug 4, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Brett mf'n Favre
you’d think that injury in the playoffs last season would perhaps, make him not want to risk something worse
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus the dude's a GRANDPA, for crying out loud...
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
my grandpa in the NFL would be pretty fun
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
he's not getting any younger, as they say
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
eh, I've heard it both ways.
wait, what?
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Aug 4, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I know this won't happen...BUT for fun...
Would you make this trade?
Cardinals miss playoffs in 2010, but as a reward, LaRussa retires
I guess I should elaborate
Making the playoffs increases revenue. Increasing revenue means financial flexibility in all sectors of the front office. Increasing financial flexibility means we are more likely to sign Albert Pujols AND get him a little bit of help
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
it gives us the ability to sign a better team around him though.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
getting rid of LaRussa gives us a better chance to FIELD a better team around him
Cards have the players…LaRussa won’t play them (see: Craig, Allen 3B until 2008)
So you're saying that you'll give up a potential $25 million in playoff revenue
So that we can fire a manager, who is worth +/- 3 wins MAX, who is likely to retire within the next 2 or 3 years anyways?
Okay buddy
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
how can la russa play a guy who isn't on the roster? not much he can do about that.
as has been said…craig has gotten a lot of playing time when he is on the 25-man. i don’t think la russa is the problem.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Aaron miles playing 3B last night, while Craig plays in RF?
Cards lineup should be going forward: Lopez (2B), Jay (RF), Pujols (1B), Holliday (LF), Rasmus (CF), Craig (3B), Molina ©, Ryan (SS), Pitcher……….end of story. But it won’t be….sigh…
there was some discussion of this elsewhere in the thread, but
TLR wanted to play craig at 3b, but decided not to start him there in his first game at 3b in two years because houston is a heavy RH hitting team and jaime induces a lot of ground balls to the left side of the IF
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Are you saying that
TLR actually has a thought process to his decision making? He doesn’t do thing to piss off the fan base just because he can? Blasphemy.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i guess that is what i was saying, but that doesn't sound right at all...
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
what is this witchcraft?
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Aug 4, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i could teach you
but i’d have to charge (TM)
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Aug 4, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And where's that milkshake I've been hearing about?
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I have heard it brings all of the boys to the yard.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I didn't say that, did I?
Look at the Twins and the Phillies… They’ve both DRASTICALLY increased payroll over the last few years because they consistently made the playoffs
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Cardinals have made the playoffs what like 7 out of the last 10 seasons?
Cardinals have played more playoff games than any NL team i believe…doesn’t that account for anything?
...Uh, yeah. That's why we've been able to have $90+ million payrolls
So we need to KEEP making the playoffs to maintain or exceed that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Regardless of the added revenue
Losing Tony is not worth missing the playoffs. It has been said on this site many times that the playoffs are a crapshoot and we have as good a top of the rotation as anybody, hands down IMO.
That being said, we can at least trust TLR to put our best players on the field come playoff time. Right??
Remember when we crawled into the 06 playoffs and then put out Good Lineup: yadi, apu, belly, eck, rolen, edmonds , and um dunc and juan? Felt pretty good.
You shut your mouth when you're talking to me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
At this point, I don't think TLR will be back, regardless.
I think he’ll be shown the door if the Cardinals don’t make it to the NLCS.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
They may spin it so that it doesn't read as him being fired...maybe "mutually parting ways"...
but behind the scenes there will be some discussions on what is best for the club and why the club failed to produce.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, it is public knowledge that TLR has had his most difficult time in quite awhile
managing this team. And how much is this team going to change next year, personnel-wise. If he is being tuned out now, why would it be different next year?
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
not a chance of him being shown the door
they may encourage him to move on but the way the FO coddles him (see the roster), it’ll be TLR’s decision. They don’t have the stones to fire him
also that would mean DD is walking with him
TLR will be here until he decides he doesn’t want to be here
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Not true on the Duncan piece.
He has been forthcoming with the information that he would be willing to coach if TLR was not the manager.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It was mentioned on the broadcast a month or so ago.
I’ll see if I can dig anything up.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd appreciate that
i know he doesn’t want to manage but i thought he’d go with tlr
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
there was something about them not being a "package deal"
i believe that it was during the Chris Duncan debacle
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
This is from a Joe Strauss chat.
Joe Strauss: My information is that Duncan would be willing to stay post-TLR depending on who became the next manager. Obviously, most managers would demand the ability to name their own coaching staff. Oquendo and Terry Pendleton will be mentioned whenever TLR leaves. Jim Riggleman would also have allure here if he and the Nationals parted ways. I wonder if current ownership would be open to hiring anyone without prior managerial experience in the major leagues. Regardless of your opinion, TLR will be a tough act to follow.
It was also mentioned in either a KSDK or FSMW game broadcast.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
But, this also appeared in the same chat.
HeyLady: My husband and I are big fans of Ryan Ludwick. We are able to see almost all Cards games on FSMW so we consider ourselves lucky. Please tell me he isn’t going to be traded away for a pitcher…..but don’t color the truth either. I’d rather know than be caught off-guard. Thanks for the chance to ask questions and hopefully get answers.
Joe Strauss: I don’t see it happening.
Sigh.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair
I didn’t see it happening either
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
hm
i’ll take this with a grain of salt considering the source
but i do hope he sticks around even if tlr doesn’t
thanks for fishing this out
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Norelle's ignored; I help pin a bra. Got to garb a nipple hider on Giselle, Ron!
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
from what i have heard/understand
duncan’s hand is in game planning whereas marty mason is the mechanics guy. I’m not at all saying that I want Duncan gone, but I am curious to know what would happen if he did.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
are there people who would honestly rather see la russa leave than make the playoffs this year? HONESTLY???
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i would...i have had ENOUGH of him...to sacrifice one season to get rid of him...i'd make that trade
I don't say this often
But this is a stupid, uninformed decision
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
You're a knee jerk reaction
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
BURRRNNNN!
Incineration! You are the insult master!
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i didn't mind yesterday's loss as much as some
recent come from behind losses
at least yesterday we knew we were going to lose so pretty much after we saw the lineup, or by the middle of the 1st at the latest
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
yeah Monday's hurt worse to me
but to some 18-4 is infuriating, so all I’m saying is that probably contributes to the knee-jerk reactions about getting rid of TLR being better than making the playoffs
It is less about the score and more about what the game revealed...
-Jaime wearing down
-Bullpen ineffectiveness
-Glaring need at 3B
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know that the game revealed Jaime to be wearing down.
He only lasted 5 innings and 8 runs were scored, but only 4 of the runs were earned. If Aaron Miles is not the third baseman, that could have been a much different game.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 4, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Earned/unearned runs is kind of bullshit
If you look at the great pitchers, they don’t allow many unearned runs either. They pitch around them
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Of course, it is.
But, giving extra outs to an MLB team is only asking for trouble. That was my point.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 4, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe where you draw the line is arbitrary,
but i wouldnt call it bullshit. you could argue that a great pitcher doesnt need to rely on defense much, and that thus a great pitcher must have a high k/9 and low bb/9 rate, which is true and all. but last night was a pretty extreme case of having a really bad defense fail you. maybe 98/99 pedro would have worked around it, but pretty much any pitcher would have had issues with it i believe.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that's what FIP and such tries to eliminate
FIP is basically what ERA would look like if you assumed that defense has an impact outside of just blatant errors.
i see.
im almost sure i have asked you this before, but xFIP also considers park and league adjustments??
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
And normalizes HR/FB
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Normalizes home runs to league average, as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
is there anything it doesn't do?!
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Mow my yard.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Burt Reynolds hat ftw.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Oh no, that's not Burt Reynolds.
It’s only Turd Ferguson….
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
It's just FIP with normalized HRs
Instead of K, BB, and HR it’s K, BB, and would-be HR based on the actual pitcher’s fly ball percentage and their league’s average HR/FB ratio. So it’s park-neutral via normalizing the only park-related component, and league-adjusted by using the league’s HR/FB ratio.
i count five outs that the defense didn't give jamie
Miles had the missed DP into RF for 2
Miles had the miss DP force out at first for 1. (and since he didn’t get the lead runner the DP was not in order and there was a running in scoring position)
Throw from skip that went to the right of AP. Not sure whose fault because at that point I wasn’t paying attention. For 1
Colby’s awesome throw to the plate that Yadi dropped 1.
5 more outs for Jaime. that’s a lot to ask a pitcher to make up. Throw in the heat factor, i’m not surprised he looked worn out by the 4th.
Miles, in at third for his defense
wow. i just can't believe that.
i’ve disliked players and coaches and manager decisions, but you’re rooting for the TEAM. i mean, really, who cares what TLR does if we WIN?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
there's no way
that my dislike for TLR overshadows my desire for the chance at a championship. I realize this team is pretty flawed but with our rotation, just get in and see what happens. TLR needs to go, but I need to see the Cards in the playoffs much more so
I'm walking a fine line between reason and insanity.....
I’ve gone back and forth on this a ton….a few more Miles starts and I think I will go insane
TLR
Is a SABR hostile manager who makes many decisions based on provably irrelevant factors (matchups, almost always SSS) and who seems to make other decisions based on his relationships with players (not on-field performance or potential). He also seems marginally able work well with young players, critically damaging the strategy the team needs to be able to pay its superstars while maintaining a budget. And, he plays favorites. Other decisions, as far as I can tell, are made by voodoo. I really have no explanation for some of the stuff he does. This is a SABR-friendly blog, so it is not surprising that he annoys the hell out of us.
But, there are many, many, worse options that we could have as manager. People that keep on getting jobs in the major leagues. Would you really want Buck Showalter? There’s a micro-manager for you. What about Sweet Lou? I won’t dwell on Dusty Baker….
This morning I changed my sig to “DFA Miles or fire TLR,” and then changed it back. I don’t want to be as negative as that toward someone I genuinely hope succeeds—if he wins, we win. But I also thought of some of the alternatives. In many cases, it is better the devil you know.
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Aug 4, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
why don't we hire you? or any of the other contributors to this site?
I just want normal. Follow 3 rules:
1. You play the best guys you have, giving them an occasional rest day here and there.
2. If a right handed reliever strikes out the first two guys he faces, he shouldn’t be lifted for a left handed reliever because a lefty is coming up. Enough of this match up garbage.
3. Don’t have an attitude of “I know more about baseball than anyone else in the World” and actually smile….every once in awhile.
...
2. If a right handed reliever strikes out the first two guys he faces, he shouldn’t be lifted for a left handed reliever because a lefty is coming up. Enough of this match up garbage.
Every manager does this. And then when he doesn’t and motte gets hit. We complain about leaving him in too long.
Miles, in at third for his defense
The roster tinkering did not bother me as much the years we won 100 games
The thing that makes it so frustrating this year is that the bench absolutely, totally, sucks. Almost all of them are replacement level, or below (counting Jay as a starter at this point). But, they get a lot of playing time because the manager “just believes” in playing the bench.
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Aug 4, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
if you want tony to leave
the best chance is to win the world series
see: dick vermeil
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
or he'd decide to stay
see: tony la russa
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I really hope the Reds loose to the Pirates.
….i know its very unlikely but if they do and we win tonight it would be huge to make it out of this nightmare of a series in first.
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That was what I said about the Cubs series, Mets series...
Sensing a pattern?
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
so i was hearing on the radio that votto's wrist is bum
and that cabrera is out with injury… I think that its going to be interesting to see how they fare
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
is it bad that i am secretly hoping votto's wrist is toast?
i did not wish an injury on a player. i merely wished that a pre-existing injury is season-ending.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Well Votto is playing right now....
So how serious could it be
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 1:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How well versed on 4chan memes are you?
I’ve been tinkering with this idea in my head for a few days on “internet arbitrage” and how people will take a meme from one site, and take it to another site to accrue “board capital” for a profit.
Like I frequent a board that’s probably one degree away from 4chan, which I don’t browse. 4chan memes make their way over to my board by people who want to gain board notoriety, and then I post it on VEB or Facebook so I look clever and witty
…I am looking wayyyyyyyy too deep into this. Fuck my Economics background
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Aug 4, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i don't even know what you're talking about. that's how well-versed i am.
wtf is 4chan.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
It's a giant internet community, and basically every meme on VEB originates from there
Any meme anywhere on the internet, really…
The haters gonna hate stuff
The FFFUUUUUUUUUUU stuff
Almost all gifs
…Except for eelcats. That I can safely say is VEB’s own
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
with a hearty nod toward the Snakepit.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
not every meme.
the meme police will get you now.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
hell no
there’s a reason I’m hiding in the basement.
…by the way, if you see a white car, don’t turn around and don’t make eye contact.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the meme police
they live inside of my head.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Aug 4, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
what is the theme of the community
most of the memes i consider to be veb memes did probably start here, though…right?
hi guys in the truck?
the good reporter?
unicorns?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Yeah you're right
I meant more of the picture-related memes, I suppose
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
okay whew
i was actually worried. like i felt cheated or something. FFFFUUUU and haters gotta hate, i knew those didn’t come from here.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Wasn't Fist
a VEB meme?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
OKAY FINE LET'S JUST FOCUS ON MY PSEUDOINTELLECTUAL POINT PLEASE
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Hm, that came off more serious than I intended
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
It has to be all about you, doesn't it?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
And major kudos
for using an 18 letter word. Very well done.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Technically it's hyphened
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'll admit
guilty as charged.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Aug 4, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
usually its bad to wish injury on anybody
although seeing starlin castro get nailed a couple sundays ago wasn’t the worst thing
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 4, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't wish injury on votto
i just wish the loss of votto on that team
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Yea while we have dealt with all these injuries
The Reds have been surprisingly healthy all year for the most part.
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 1:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well and even when rolen and votto both looked to be in trouble, both came back no problem. at least so far.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Ha of course right when I say that the reds break it open
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 1:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So I'm not giving up the division yet but are we legit contenders for the wild card?
on the surface we don’t seem as good as the other teams in the WC race, BUT does their being in much better divisions help our cause enough to cover the deficiencies?
Ok so maybe now is a bad time since we’re not exactly taking advantage of Houston.
I'm already to the point where I think I will be VERY surprised if the wild card doesn't come from the west
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
SF being the obvious choice
but their schedule is murder:
Remaining road games against contenders:
4 @ Atl
3 @ Phil
3 @ Stl
3 @ LA
4 @ SD
3 @ Col
I asked Kary Booher
about Matt Carpenter last night, which he kindly answered:
He’s interesting. But doesn’t have great power, needs work defensively
Drag Morgan Ensberg out of retirement?
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
I agree on the power.
I’ve seen a little of Carpenter play third, and I thought he looked good. However, Booher sees him far more than I do, so I’ll defer to his opinion. I still love the kid and his on-base skills, though.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno.
I’d be willing to give it a shot, though.
Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that bringing up
Carpenter is worth a shot. He has raked in over 200+ AB’s in AA. Has to be better than Gotay. Has to be better than Miles. If they can catch lightning in a bottle, he is clearly the best internal option (if, in fact, Craig can’t play the position).
not me
200 at-bats doesn’t mean crap…..
and everybody is better than Miles… he can in fact be worse than Gotay and his .400 OBP and probably is
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
"wavemaster j" (hurl)
will have a live chat session
link
i plan on checking when it’s done to see what kind of absurd superlatives the strauss was called today (more hurl)
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Motte Injury
Motte has an AC sprain, according to the P-D. I defer to hazel.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
How does a pitcher sprain his AC joint?
I swear that only happens when you land on your shoulder (think of say Sam Bradford)
Not afraid to nitpick
See below
It’s generally a dislocation injury due to direct trauma.
I guess a pitcher could stretch it open, but I’m hard pressed to see how.
Maybe he hurt it in the Boog pound fest?
Washing his truck.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Playing football with his truck?
Seriously, how does a pitcher get this injury?
Generally you only see it in football players who take a helmet in just the right place just below the shoulder pads.
my wife seperated her AC joint when she fell during a seizure
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
This is Motte we're talking about.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Motte gives seizures, doesn't get them.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 4, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you seen him between pitches?
Dude is crazy.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Speaking in tongues perhaps?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 4, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Only the glove knows.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Maybe he gave his glove a seizure.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 4, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking he probably just ran full speed into a door frame or something
Got a little too excited about his high score in Guitar Hero.
here's my amatuer fear mongering
from this site regarding AC injuries
There are some surgeons who will recommend shoulder surgery for serious athletes, especially those who are throwing athletes, like baseball pitchers.
Two things…
First, I heard/read somewhere that Tyler Greene was going down to Memphis last week until he told the Cardinals he was hurt, prompting he trip to the DL. The implication was either he hadn’t told the staff he was playing hurt before, or he told them he was hurt to stop them from sending him to Memphis. Alledgedly his agent was involved. Either way, doghouse, right ?
Second, what was is our runs per game this year and last year pre-Holiday averaged together ? That’s our offense imo…
To your first point about Greene.
Yes, doghouse to say the least.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad....he would be the best option at 3b right now....
Was his 15 day DL stint retroactive at all? It seemed like he hadnt played for a few days up until being DLd.
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i don't blame him
He makes like 36K a year in Memphis and like 450K in Saint Louis. A two week check is a big deal.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 4, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The involvement from the agent was suspicious.
Almost like Mommy and Daddy had to intervene.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
when you're dealing with money and contracts and employer/employee regulations
it’s best to involve your agent and the GM. this is business; not the local rec league.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is how I see it
This is business for these guys not just a game
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 4, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not suspicious
I think he probably makes more in 2 weeks than he would all year at Memphis. It’s logical.
Not afraid to nitpick
Demetri Martin ends the discussion.
Dammit I’m mad.
Evil is a deed as I live.
God, am I reviled? I rise, my bed on a sun, I melt.
To be not one man emanating is sad. I piss.
Alas, it is so late. Who stops to help?
Man, it is hot. I’m in it. I tell.
I am not a devil. I level “Mad Dog”.
Ah, say burning is, as a deified gulp,
In my halo of a mired rum tin.
I erase many men. Oh, to be man, a sin.
Is evil in a clam? In a trap?
No. It is open. On it I was stuck.
Rats peed on hope. Elsewhere dips a web.
Be still if I fill its ebb.
Ew, a spider… eh?
We sleep. Oh no!
Deep, stark cuts saw it in one position.
Part animal, can I live? Sin is a name.
Both, one… my names are in it.
Murder? I’m a fool.
A hymn I plug, deified as a sign in ruby ash,
A Goddam level I lived at.
On mail let it in. I’m it.
Oh, sit in ample hot spots. Oh wet!
A loss it is alas (sip). I’d assign it a name.
Name not one bottle minus an ode by me:
“Sir, I deliver. I’m a dog”
Evil is a deed as I live.
Dammit I’m mad.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
I think you've been out in the CenTex sun too much today.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
It's being sold
by the same people who do the Three Wolves t-shirts.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 4, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
it'll fit right into my collection!
if only they’d come out with a “Three A-Rods Howling at the Moon” design
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
apparently a security guard at yankee stadium caught the ball so he is obligated to give it back. no selling it on ebay for $23385847354543
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
MiLB taking the "lol" out of "stanozolol"
http://sports.espn.go.com/minorlbb/news/story?id=5436747
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Aug 4, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not sure if this was publicized yet or not, regarding Nate Robertson...
The Cardinals must promote Robertson by Aug. 23 or he can opt out of his contract.
Per Strauss.
Hey, at least we know he can play 2B.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Just posted a fanpage analysis of Boog's swing
I see something that can be fixed with a drill that Pujols does.
ERA cut in half.
…I’ll go now.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Not a palindrome
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
i just googled Palindrome
I thought it was just some stupid nickname. I didn’t even realize it was a real word. Let alone it’s meaning.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 4, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
links.
http://phrontistery.info/ihlstart.html
http://www.etymonline.com/
sites are a bit overloaded with yellow.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
have you not been wondering about all these nonsensical posts today?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I gotta take off again
a question to gnaw on…
How many of the Play Like a Cardinal spots have been rendered unusable, jinxed, or awkward during the season? This year, or in the last few years?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
What use do we have for someone who can't even sustain a .300 BA anymore?
I wish we had kept the Browns instead.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Aug 4, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Too much fluctuation!
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Aug 4, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
dude
I’ll bet you $300 that he bats .300 or over this season
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Will it be
a time for mourning if albert bats below .300 for the season?
Will it be considered an embarrassment if the yanks don’t win the division? I would think that with their payroll, being the wild card would be considered a disappointment. What do you think?
They'd be proud to win the Series from the wild card position.
I LOVE this trade for the St. Louis Cardinals! -- Buster Olney.
There is no stigma attached to being the Wild Card.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
MooCow is really just spamming at this point
We’re all impressed with your cut-and-paste skills, MooCow, really.
for some perspective
the browns are 33 and 73 right now. Yes, that’s .311.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Aug 4, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
At least they can sustain .300
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Aug 4, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's their team BA, right?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Precisely.
We could even have kept Brownie the Elf as our mascot and had midgets pinch hitting…
wait…
Miles.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Aug 4, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW....I knew the O's were bad, but that's insane.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Their talent level is far, far above .311, though.
It’s really kind of sad. They have a nice group of young talent that almost (almost) reminds me of the Rays a few years back, but…. just can’t put it together.
Being in same division as the Rays, Red Sox, Yankees, and slugging Jays probably doesn’t help matters, though. Lol imbalanced schedule.
Like the Mariners! Kind of!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I feel as though their touted young pitching...
will be shell-shocked after 2-3 years of losing consistently to the Yanks/Red Sox/Rays to the point of no return.
Also, I think a few of their position players have been over hyped…namely Jones, Adam and Wieters, Oscar Mayer.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Aug 4, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
can we get this guy, too?
the nickname/meme possibilities are endless!
we could call him weinermobile!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Or...we could just call him
Oscar Mayer Wieters.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
so arod became the youngest person to 600 HRs
at 35 years, 8 days. Pujols will be 35 years, 8 days on January 24, 2015, which means he has the rest of this season, and 2011-2014 to hit 208 homeruns. at one point, i thought it was totally possible for pujols to get to 600 before arod. but i did some math, and assuming he hits 15 more dingers this season, he would have to average 48.25 dingers/season for the next four seasons to beat arod. so probably not.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Arod had aboot a year head start on Albert.
And those 15 or so seasons on the juice….But we can just play MSM and forget aboot that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I just watched Fargo the other night
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone seen a lineup for tonight yet?
I really hope Craig at 3rd….or id settle for lopex at this point, although it is a lefty so that means we are almost for sure gonns be stuck with Miles one way or another
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 4:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He's spent. He went an inning last night.
I wish that was true.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
My ideal lineup for today:
Lopez 2B
Jay RF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Rasmus CF
Craig 3B
Molina C
Pitcher
Ryan SS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
how serious is Lopezs injury though?
Thats def the lineup everyone wants, but just like last night when everyome was happy Craig wax up and batting 5th, Tony usually offsets it with an equally bad lineup choice. Either Miles at 2nd of Winn (since hes a switch hitter of course, and “you cant bury guys on the bench”) playing in the OF over Jay or Rasmus…
Come to.think of it Colby has played a few games in a row so Tony will probably sit him
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 4:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Again I say there is no reason to play Lopez at 2B
Craig is undoubtedly a really bad 3B, they moved him off the position for a reason and he hasn’t really played there much in over a year. I would WAG that he’s probably -15 per 150 games right now.
Not afraid to nitpick
if Lopez is healthy enough to play...
Just put him at 3rd and Schu at 2b. I only want Craig playing 3rd if the alternative is Miles.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Never had it done, but draining fluid off a knee doesn't sound healthy to me.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 4, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as it's not blood
its not usually a huge, huge deal. Although we usually tell people to take it easy for a couple of days after having it done though, so I don’t know how quick Lopez will be back.
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Aug 4, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when Lopez was the one guy that was injured
Early in the year and we were all thinking how nice it would be to get him back and have a backup IF?
How stuff changes over the course of a season….now we are hoping he is healthy enough to play because we are a game behind the Reds and are only other 3rd base options are aaron miles and allen craig.
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 5:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I injured my knee playing rubgy and had to have it drained once...
Stuck a big-ass gauge needle in my joint and yanked on the plunger. It wasn’t pleasant. I didn’t do anything for a couple of days and it was fine. I don’t think I could have, say, played a baseball game on it the next day, but it wouldn’t have occurred to me to try so I really don’t know. Besides, the reason why I needed it drained was because I had twisted it, so my knee was fucked up regardless of the draining procedure.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
just curious... are you down with the pitcher hitting 8th, or are you just doing that because its typical of tony
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I'm fine with it. Honestly, over the course of the season, I don't think it makes too much of a difference
So I default to what I know Tony is going to do
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
boog's line in the last 28 days:
.310/.354/.345 with only 5 Ks in 67 PAs. also a .327 BABIP, which isn’t too lucky.
i know its still a SSS but he’s cut his K rate in half over the last month.
promising, at least.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Aw shit I love statistics that support players that I do not hate
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
not quite....
I’m sure you can make it work, though.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Don't tempt him.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 4, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 4, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Hawkins just got tossed for hitting Soriano. Cubs blowing game open.
I LOVE this trade for the St. Louis Cardinals! -- Buster Olney.
And now Macha tossed, as a traditional part of baseball kabuki.
I LOVE this trade for the St. Louis Cardinals! -- Buster Olney.
So, what is the minimally acceptable performance by Albert, not to be in a "malaise"?
I just wanted to nit-pick on that little point in the main post.
OT: Taylor swift should have rethought
her decision to jump on the Got Milk ad campaign.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
hahahahahahaha
I can’t f’ing stand her, so that is hilarious to me.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 4, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Useless campaign
I thought the other Got Milk ads (Hell is cookies and no milk) was much more effective.
The Aaron Burr/Alexander Hamilton peanut butter ad was awesome
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Tonight's Lineup
Lopez 3B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Craig RF
Molina C
Ryan SS
Carpenter P
Miles 2B
Fuck! Miles twice in a row?
Come on……
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wOBA of .283
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 4, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Happ is a lefty, right?
We’re powerless against lefties. Powerless, I say!
We need Aaron Miles in this lineup.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Don't believe the publicity.
It’ll take more than Mighty Mouse to save the day.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 4, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Can someone photoshop a goatee and a Cards' hat on this bad boy?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I bat righty
And I play shortstop for my softball team. I’m pretty sure TLR should be starting me at second tonight.
CURSE YOU AARON MILES
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I can already see Winn double switched into the game
For Craig
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He might as well have let Skippy bat.
Even with a lefty pitching, that’s giving up too much on D. Skippy could lay down a bunt if nothing else.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 4, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea I would be more than happy with that lineup
With skip batting 9th. Or even.skip 6th, yadi, carp, boog
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 5:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At least now Miles won't be in a position to throw any balls into right field
#WorldsSmallestSilverLinings
Tony's genius at work.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 4, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I still wouldn't put it past him
it is Aaron Miles on D that we’re talking about
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch, but not with Johnny Mo!
I don't remember a single time all year we've put our best team on the field.
I mean, it had to have happened by chance, right? Like TLR continually rolling Chris Duncan out to LF last year, the only way Mo can fix the MIles issue is by removing him from the roster.
Unfortunately, Mo appears to be the dipshit who put him on the roster.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. I cannot remember ever seeing it lately.
Probably a few times early in the season, when we were actually winning games….before we had guys like Winn and Miles on the team to even put in the lineup.
Although I do remember Mather hitting leadoff one game…
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 5:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
a lot of that is due to injury really.
freese has been out a long time, and now the rest of the season, and ludwick was hurt earlier. we had a lot of good lineups early in the year.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not even talking about the best team possible given the roster...
I’m talking about the best team possible at any current time. So basically, excluding any lineup where Larue, Winn, Stav or Miles starts, or where Pujols, Holliday, Yadi, Rasmus sat, or where Schu started at 2B against a LHP over Lopez when Freese was healthy, etc. etc.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Which since probably the start of June
Would be almost impossible to find. TLR usually starts at least one bench player each game. Throw out all games with any one of tnese guys in it (miles,larue,winn,stav) or where one of the regulars Luddy,AP,Holliday,etc. sat for one of the youngsters and I really doubt your left with any more than a few games.
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
as sad as it is,
is there really anyone we could bring up that is really much better than miles? perhaps gotay, but his MLEs are not that pretty really, and i dont think his defense is that good either ( i may be wrong there though ). sadly, we really dont have anywhere else to go. :(
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotay...
is in his prime, has not been a butcher in the field according to minor-league defense numbers, and has a .400OBP and +.800 OPS in AAA the last two years.
I’ll take my chances he’s better than Miles.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotay's MLE
is .230/.331/.337, which is pretty horrendous, though, to be fair, miles currently has .300/.312/.339. so, i guess i would say gotay is better as he clearly relies much less on BA to boost his OBP, and miles is almost surely gonna see a drop in his numbers. that said, they both suck. maybe gotay has better defense, and if he does, then he definitely should be here instead. has anyone seen gotay in person? i honestly can’t imagine he has less range than miles.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't need to look at Gotay's MLE so much
He’s got +800 PAs in the majors already, his numbers in the majors are better than that MLE (though not significantly), and his OBP skills are something that he’s improved over the last two years (which would improve his numbers). He’s also a switch hitter, so Miles gets no benefit over him there.
I’m certainly no Gotay fanboy, but I’m confident he’d be an improvement over MIles, especially at 3b.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Opening Day?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 4, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just guessing,
so I had to go look it up. Freese started and hit eighth. Oh, and Brendan Ryan batted second.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 4, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i remember our high hopes for boog.
it makes me sad.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
well, that was, or at least was pretty close to our best lineup
Skip and Ryan hadn’t yet proved they were going to suck offensively yet (though Lopez was a better hitter than Skip, it was probably against a RHP so starting Skip was defensible).
It’s just a very uncommon occurrence for the Cards to put their best lineup on the field.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
all i want for next year is a
.380 OBP middle infielder to bat lead off.
Miles, in at third for his defense
with a Boog/Schu combo slated for next year...
good luck with that.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, so I don't really see how Tony could have made a better lineup
I guess putting Craig at third and Jay in right? At least Miles is better against lefties than Schumaker.
miles is better against lefties than schu?
i don’t believe this
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
Remember August of 2004?
The beer flowed like wine and the women flocked like Salmon to Capistrano and the Cards won games at will…I miss those days.
by Harknights on Aug 4, 2010 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ah...Reggie Sanders....Edgar Renteria...Good version of Edmonds and Rolen...
a young Albert Pujols…damn that was a fun year.
'Hold my stones!'
Fire Tony LaRussa
Supreme irony that this team loses the Series badly and the 2006 one wins the Series easily.
I LOVE this trade for the St. Louis Cardinals! -- Buster Olney.
See the great thing about memory
is it’s faulty.
In my mind they won every game in august and finished with 105 wins. they were down to the Stros but Pujols hit a game winning HR off Lidge to get to game 7. In game 7 Yadi hit a HR in the 9th and Wainer got the save to send us to the WS where we swept the Tigers.
and I don’t want to hear anything else.
Henceforth I shall remember it this way, too.
I LOVE this trade for the St. Louis Cardinals! -- Buster Olney.
August last year was pretty damn good too
by mick311 on Aug 4, 2010 5:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Everyone needs to see this
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Aug 4, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Hmmm...their logo is the same as the Reds...
not cool…
(but nice catch)
'Hold my stones!'
Fire Tony LaRussa
which trade was olney referencing?
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
if he is serious,
is he then the only talking head who was a big fan? i know many thought it was a fine deal, and some flat out hated it, but apparently i missed the love.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
There were others, but AFAIK Olney was the only one you might expect to know better.
But then again he covered the Pads for a few years.
I LOVE this trade for the St. Louis Cardinals! -- Buster Olney.
so, did he essentially
think more highly of the prospects san diego gave up than others did?
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you implying that Olney thinks
before crap spews out of his mouth? If so, I disagree.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
good point
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I was implying that he may be a Pod Person, so we was trying to
cover the team’s highway robbery by asserting that the trade was good for the Cards.
I LOVE this trade for the St. Louis Cardinals! -- Buster Olney.
HOLY GOD
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
your mom is redundant.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
My mother is a beautiful, well-educated lady
How dare you, sir. How fucking dare you.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I don't speak Japanese but
at the end, did they compare it to an Ichiro-catch, then say, no, that’s an Olympic catch?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
hahahahahahaha your employer sucks at baseball hahahahahahaha
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Get out of your mom's basement you nerd
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
LOLZ
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
OH SHIT my boss is taking me down to batting practice in 30 minutes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Oooh you get to watch Chone Figgins weakly ground out to second, that's soooooo aaaawwwwwesome
Naw I’m just kidding, that’s really cool.
This is the most likely outcome
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I hope you get hit......
otherwise have a great time.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Nevrmind.....
upon further reading, it’s the best case scenario.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Better
I think someone said he’d actually be able to pitch in a few days, but they needed the bullpen help so they just DLed him and called up Palindrome (I’m making it stick goddammit)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
So the BOB go oft injured pitchers..what about
3b? Mike Lowell? cough
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
If you guys think Stav is a chair
Mike Lowell is probably less mobile than a chair at this point. I don’t know what’s less mobile than something that’s totally immobile, but Lowell is like that.
Youk is out for the year,
Sox won’t get rid of Lowell.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i knew he was hurt, didnt know how bad
ouch, that injury hurts
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch, but not with Johnny Mo!
FESPN says Lowell's been put on waivers
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
The money quote
If Youkilis returns to form and David Ortiz and Adrian Beltre are still healthy and hitting, the Red Sox could consider dealing Lowell.
I don’t think they knew the extent of the injury. I stand by my speculation.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Blue Jays put Vernon Wells on waivers
Nationals put Adam Dunn on waivers
Everyone goes on waivers, it literally doesn’t mean anything.
yeah like i heard papelbon was claimed, and then they just pulled him back.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I'd rather have Lowrie anyway
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Lowell is pretty underwhelming
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
Ruben Gotay’s line at Memphis is .271/.399/.412 — I see this and wonder why he isn’t up…
Turns out the ML equivalent of that line is only .230/.331/.337…
Well, that’s still probably better than Miles.
i SO just wrote about this higher up. :(
has anyone seen gotay in person? what is his defense like?
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Except, as shitty as that career line is, Miles is currently worse than at any point in his career
So he’s not even good enough for a .677 OPS (over a sufficient sample size)
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
MLE seems a little harse
He seems to have good plate discipline. I would think he would be good for at least .350 OBP
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 4, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
How accurate are MLEs?
Like if you took a sample of 1000 players in year X in AAA and compared their MLEs to year x+1, how close, on average, would the MLE be?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
That's a ridiculous notion
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
He's gonna do it.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Well that'd be a little too simple
I think the point is that for the purpose of projection, someone hitting .271/.399/.412 in the PCL is the same as someone hitting .230/.331/.337 in the big leagues. Hitting for a given line in the big leagues in a single year is obviously not as predictive as we would like it to be.
Also, the no-power/high BB% combination in the minors doesn’t really translate all that well to the big leagues IMO, that said the zero “power”/low BB% skillset that Miles possesses is fucking worthless and Gotay almost certainly will be better. CHONE has him for .245/.358/.366 for what it’s worth.
Not afraid to nitpick
Haha.
Red Sox put Papelbon on waivers and someone claimed him.
Methinks the Sawx will be pulling him back.
It would be really funny if they just let the team have him, though.
There is no way is will be worth the ~$10MM he gets next year. His peripherals are down, and relievers just aren’t really worth that much anyway. With the Red Sox unlikely to make the playoffs, I think dumping him would be a defensible move. Granted, they have deeper pockets than most teams and can easily handle his contract, but it would make sense.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Aug 4, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't put it past Epstein.
But I think there would be a fan mutiny.
by Ghostrider520 on Aug 4, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they could probably get better value back in a trade
Papelbon has been worth only .4 WAR this year, and most of his peripherals are career worsts. 4.29 xFIP? Sell Sell Sell.
FJM: Fire John Mozeliak
an idea
MatthewHLeach If Steven Hill is not a catcher long-term, doesn’t it make sense at least to find out if he might be able to play 3B? Killing the TX Lg. 36 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Isn't Matt Carpenter currently handling 3B duties down there?
seems like he’s handling the position quite well.
FJM: Fire John Mozeliak
Then yes Haze, he is doing a fine job in that league.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

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